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L5[01:43:55] <Dudblockman> My cheap Astral Sorcery eclipse timer. http://tinyurl.com/ycxnrg9k
L6[01:44:19] <Izaya> cute
L7[01:45:30] <Dudblockman> Only because pack author made computer things cost an arm and a leg on top of the hard mode recipes, yet managed to ignore microcontrollers
L8[01:46:06] <Dudblockman> Best motivation I have had to use microcontrollers in a long time
L9[01:46:07] <Izaya> Microcontrollers are meant to be cheap
L10[01:46:15] <Izaya> maybe all packs should be like that
L11[01:46:17] <Izaya> :D
L12[01:46:42] <Dudblockman> The most expensive part is either the T1 CPU or the T1 RAM
L13[01:47:16] <Dudblockman> ... making t3 RAM with these modified hard mode recipes is murder
L14[01:47:47] <Dudblockman> I really want to make my favorite T3 server with T2 APU and plenty of RAM to go around
L15[01:48:07] <Dudblockman> But I need so many RAM cards for that... it's brutal
L16[01:48:50] <Mimiru> https://i.imgur.com/oj5noib.jpg
L17[01:50:11] <Dudblockman> I also want to play with drones
L18[01:50:14] <Izaya> What's cheaper: One beefy machine or lots of less beefy machines?
L19[01:50:24] <Dudblockman> But drones need component BUS
L20[01:50:43] <Dudblockman> And to make component bus I need big boy RAM stick
L21[01:51:56] <Dudblockman> And for big boy RAM? I need to sacrifice a goat and sell my firstborn to satan
L22[01:53:01] <Dudblockman> Who thought mixing OC and Avarita was legal?
L23[01:53:20] <Izaya> is that literal
L24[01:53:35] <Izaya> I mean there is astral sorcery, sacrificing a goat to get a material isn
L25[01:53:39] <Izaya> t much of a stretch
L26[01:53:47] <Mimiru> I don't want your first born, thanks.
L27[01:53:59] <Dudblockman> Thanks, satan.
L28[01:54:20] <Dudblockman> *insert pic here*
L29[01:56:15] <Forecaster> %loot time
L30[01:56:15] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a slice of butter.
L31[01:56:24] <Corded> * <Forecaster> eats the butter
L32[01:56:40] <Dudblockman> I'm surprised that you don't need to attune your rock crystals to the constellation that appears once every 12 in game hours to craft shit
L33[01:57:14] <Dudblockman> If you wanted to hurt someone, that's how
L34[01:58:01] <Dudblockman> Oops you missed the eclipse night because you were down mining and didn't notice
L35[01:58:46] <Dudblockman> Err I mean 12 irl hours... whatever
L36[01:59:20] <Dudblockman> In singleplayer you would need to be playing the game for 12 hours... close nuff?
L37[02:06:47] * Izaya takes note
L38[02:08:36] <Dudblockman> The good news is once you figure out what day it starts on based on the world seed it always occurs every 36th day
L39[02:09:04] <Dudblockman> I had the fortune of stumbling upon one and knowing that I should write down what day it was
L40[02:09:48] <Dudblockman> If I hadn't known that I should write it down I would have been fucked.
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L45[02:47:38] <Lizzian> %loot
L46[02:47:39] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a loot box! It contains a turnip.
L47[02:53:32] <Izaya> "I know that Copy2PC can be used illegally, but so can a butter knife."
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L49[03:57:00] <Forecaster> Anything can be used illegally if you try hard enough
L50[03:57:21] <Corded> * <Forecaster> places cutlery in all the wrong places on a table
L51[04:12:03] <Forecaster> https://notalwaysright.com/will-fedex-them-the-medical-bill/118892/
L52[04:12:12] <Forecaster> so, it turns out that uh... batteries are heavy
L53[06:11:43] <Joco223> Microcontrolers seem pretty cool and useful, i might mess around with them a bit
L54[06:12:36] <Forecaster> they're not that useful actually
L55[06:12:37] <Forecaster> :P
L56[06:12:42] <Forecaster> they're very niche
L57[06:13:01] <Joco223> Remote controlling stuff around the base :b
L58[06:13:19] <Izaya> for redstone I/O managed over the network they're p great
L59[06:15:04] <Joco223> What would be pretty cool if OC had would be like hard disk mounts for server racks and you could put 2 or more drives in there. Not sure if that is on GitHub somewhere
L60[06:15:38] <MGR> You can connect a server to a RAID
L61[06:16:05] <Joco223> Yea but i meant to put it in the rack
L62[06:16:21] <MGR> Ah
L63[06:16:42] <Izaya> Rack-mounted RAID would be nice
L64[06:17:13] <Izaya> I mean, I probably wouldn't use it because I don't have any significant amount of data to save but \o/
L65[06:17:59] <Joco223> I actually messed around before and managed to make 2GB of data file system with a server and bunch of racks
L66[06:18:04] <Joco223> But it was very slow
L67[06:18:21] <Joco223> I found the programs somewhere on the forums, can't remember where
L68[06:18:49] <Izaya> I feel like I should mess with tapes more
L69[06:19:12] <Izaya> You can get 128M tapes, if you managed to store and index 128M of data in a useful way that'd be good
L70[06:19:35] * Izaya hmms
L71[06:19:39] <Joco223> Tapes are from Computronics, right?
L72[06:19:43] <Izaya> yeah
L73[06:20:03] <Izaya> Once I finish making dinner I might look into that, actually
L74[06:20:15] <Joco223> Should i get Computronics?
L75[06:20:30] <Forecaster> definitely now, it's the worst mod
L76[06:20:45] <Forecaster> I mean it even has a portable tape player
L77[06:21:08] <Forecaster> definitely not, it's the worst mod [Edited]
L78[06:21:50] <Joco223> Was that sarcastic? :b
L79[06:23:15] <Forecaster> doesn't everyone know that portable things are a sin?!
L80[06:23:51] <AmandaC> Mimiru: wait, I thought you were a goddess, not Stan.
L81[06:27:46] <Izaya> Why can't Satan be a god(dess)?
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L83[06:46:34] <Forecaster> %loot
L84[06:46:34] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a stationary stick.
L85[06:46:42] <Forecaster> :|
L86[06:47:28] <Joco223> %loot
L87[06:47:28] <MichiBot> Joco223: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .7z.
L88[06:47:52] <Joco223> @Forecaster so you don't like tablets? :b
L89[06:48:09] <Forecaster> they're the worst, they're so... portable
L90[06:48:18] <Forecaster> and... tablet-y
L91[06:48:22] <Forecaster> yes
L92[06:48:32] <Joco223> Whats wrong with that though
L93[06:48:42] <Joco223> They are not that capable
L94[06:48:49] <Forecaster> I told you it's a sin!
L95[06:48:56] <Forecaster> I don't need a reason
L96[06:49:14] <Joco223> Lol
L97[06:49:14] <Forecaster> Wait, I mean... I have this religious text that says so
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L101[07:37:44] <Joco223> Can you use two network cards in a system?
L102[07:38:02] <MGR> Yes
L103[07:38:59] <Joco223> Oh, cool, exactly what i need
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L106[07:40:01] <MGR> Why do you want 2 cards?
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L109[07:40:57] <Forecaster> hm, I think that may result in the computer receiving it's own broadcasts
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L111[07:41:41] <MGR> Not sure, but that would seem plausible
L112[07:41:55] <MGR> You could even modem.send to itself
L113[07:42:07] <Izaya> loopback interface
L114[07:42:43] <expert975> Hey, I already have an item that can be placed on a computer. Now how do I make it a component available to lua?
L115[07:43:30] <expert975> I'm implementing an expansion card
L116[07:43:38] <Forecaster> I mean normally the computer wont receive broadcasts to network cards with the same address they were sent from
L117[07:44:00] <Forecaster> but if you have two different cards in the computer the other will probably receive the broadcast and throw an event
L118[07:45:15] <MGR> Yeah
L119[07:46:29] <Izaya> that reminds me
L120[07:46:41] <Izaya> can you open/close sides on a microcontroller for individual cards?
L121[07:49:55] <Joco223> I want two network cards because i want both doing an event.pull but on different ports
L122[07:50:07] <MGR> One network card can listen to two ports
L123[07:50:17] <Izaya> ^
L124[07:50:25] <Joco223> Yes
L125[07:50:36] <Joco223> But
L126[07:50:48] <Joco223> I have two functions running on two threada
L127[07:50:50] <Joco223> Threads*
L128[07:50:58] <MGR> You can still do that with 1 card
L129[07:51:00] <Izaya> ...and?
L130[07:51:06] <Joco223> And both have event.pull running on different ports
L131[07:51:14] <Izaya> event.pull runs on the processor
L132[07:51:16] <Izaya> not on either card
L133[07:51:22] <Izaya> the cards do not process
L134[07:51:24] <MGR> ^ You don't need 2 cards
L135[07:51:24] <Joco223> Problem is sometimes the first function gets the message other one was supposed to
L136[07:51:42] <Izaya> there's an API for this I think
L137[07:51:55] <MGR> You can do event.listen as well
L138[07:52:05] <MGR> Or filtering in event.pull
L139[07:52:21] <Izaya> two cards will not solve your problem
L140[07:52:26] <Joco223> So it would still happen even if i have two?
L141[07:52:27] <Joco223> And then the second one doesn't get it
L142[07:52:34] <Forecaster> microcontrollers don't connect to cables Izaya
L143[07:52:36] <Forecaster> wireless only
L144[07:52:36] <MGR> two cards will not solve your problems
L145[07:52:43] <Izaya> Forecaster: they connect to cables
L146[07:52:46] <Izaya> but only do network
L147[07:52:52] <Lizzian> ^
L148[07:52:55] <Lizzian> and power
L149[07:52:58] <Izaya> that too
L150[07:52:58] <Forecaster> oh
L151[07:53:00] <Izaya> that one's important
L152[07:53:00] <Forecaster> I didn't know that
L153[07:53:31] <Joco223> How would i filter it?
L154[07:53:36] <Joco223> @MGR
L155[07:53:46] <MGR> ~w event
L156[07:53:46] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L157[07:54:50] <Joco223> Oh i didn't know about that
L158[07:54:51] <MGR> event.pull(3, "modem_message", _, _, (port you want))
L159[07:55:02] <MGR> `
L160[07:55:02] <MGR> event.pull(3, "modem_message", _, _, (port you want))
L161[07:55:02] <MGR> ` [Edited]
L162[07:55:37] <MGR> That statement will only return if a modem message on that port appears, or 3 seconds elapse. You can change the 3 to whatever you want to configure the timeout
L163[07:57:48] <Izaya> interesting, VK9 exists for DX9 over Vulkan, DXVK exists for DX11 over Vulkan, and now patches appear to add DX9 to DXVK
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L169[10:01:44] <Forecaster> https://notalwaysright.com/manager-needs-hubris/105019/
L170[10:01:49] <Forecaster> two is clearly better than one
L171[10:06:19] <MGR> Yes
L172[10:29:28] <Shiigehiro> Do you thinks this is possible to remake ELinks in lua for OC ?
L173[10:30:17] <Izaya> sure
L174[10:30:22] <Izaya> I have a video of that
L175[10:30:38] <Izaya> gimme a minute to find it
L176[10:30:50] <Temia> "Two is better than one" is a philosophy that can be applied to a lot of things >.>
L177[10:32:11] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/lbsluw.webm
L178[10:42:51] <Shiigehiro> This is a reader but not really like ELinks
L179[10:43:16] * Izaya nods
L180[10:44:02] <Izaya> it's plenty doable
L181[10:44:13] <Izaya> I wasn't going for elinks specifically though :P
L182[10:55:24] <Forecaster> Not really to "hubs" though :P
L183[11:17:05] <gamax92> Izaya: that DX9 thing can't possibly work
L184[11:17:09] <Izaya> why not
L185[11:17:55] <Izaya> (also, which one?)
L186[11:18:21] <gamax92> well that PR is just a bunch of stubs, DX9's shader system is not compatible with DX11's and DXVK doesn't implement it, "D3D9 surfaces are nothing more than D3D11Texture2D" is just bullshit
L187[11:18:37] <Izaya> oh
L188[11:33:00] <AmandaC> %choose read or no
L189[11:33:00] <MichiBot> AmandaC: read
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L191[11:39:08] <AmandaC> %choose hungry monsters or bored monsters or fighting monsters
L192[11:39:09] <MichiBot> AmandaC: hungry monsters
L193[11:39:13] <AmandaC> hrm. nah
L194[11:40:34] <Izaya> hungry hungry hippos
L195[11:55:57] <Forecaster> hm
L196[11:56:09] <Forecaster> the issues with computers dying may be because I added more to the chunk...
L197[11:56:21] <Forecaster> since it worked fine when there were fewer
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L200[13:05:05] <Kodos> %choose look for the lewd manga or sleep
L201[13:05:06] <MichiBot> Kodos: sleep
L202[13:05:17] <Kodos> Mkay
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L206[13:34:50] <MGR> ' IT Guy: "Well, the server is broken, there is no way anybody is working, now." Me: "As I said, I'm connected to it, now. It's definitely working. Check this out. "
L207[13:34:50] <MGR> IT Guy: "Hey, the CD try just ejected." Me: "Yep, that was me"
L208[13:34:50] <MGR> IT Guy: "Neat trick. How'd you do that to a broken server?"' --- Quote 1/2
L209[13:37:08] <MGR> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/7olm46/monitor_doesnt_work_reboot_the_server/
L210[13:37:11] <MGR> It got worse
L211[13:37:41] <AmandaC> %choose read or no
L212[13:37:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: no
L213[13:38:03] <MGR> %choose read or no
L214[13:38:03] <MichiBot> MGR: no
L215[13:38:07] <MGR> ?
L216[13:44:12] <Kodos> %choose no or no
L217[13:44:12] <MichiBot> Kodos: no
L218[13:44:28] <MGR> But which one did she choose?
L219[13:44:46] <Kodos> The world may never know
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L221[13:46:49] <Kodos> %loot
L222[13:46:49] <MichiBot> Kodos: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic self-organizing music! (25%)
L223[13:48:37] <AmandaC> %choose watch or listen
L224[13:48:37] <MichiBot> AmandaC: listen
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L227[14:07:13] <expert975> How can I have the "Hold [LSHIFT] for a detiled tooltip" on my new item?
L228[14:09:16] <expert975> Is there an interface I can implement?
L229[14:11:04] <Forecaster> I'd suggest looking at computronics
L230[14:11:16] <asie> expert975: addInformation and check for GuiScreen.isShiftKeyDown
L231[14:11:20] <asie> there's no interface
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L239[14:36:27] <bengi> Hi, is it possible to bind two gpus to the same screen and draw half the screen each?
L240[14:39:05] <AmandaC> I don't think so
L241[14:39:40] <ben_mkiv> why would you even want to do that?
L242[14:39:49] <Forecaster> speed
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L244[14:40:04] <ben_mkiv> gpu calls havent call budget afaik
L245[14:40:10] <ben_mkiv> so i doubt there would be much advantage?!
L246[14:40:15] <AmandaC> except if it's the same computer they'll share the budget
L247[14:40:24] <AmandaC> rather, the delay will affect both GPUs
L248[14:40:43] <Bengi> I thought they had limits to what it could draw per tick?
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L250[14:41:12] <Bengi> I just ran it and it takes the same amount of time for one card as it does for two.
L251[14:41:17] <Bengi> Possible Feature??
L252[14:41:20] <AmandaC> unless you're doing some asie-level inasnity, you're probably be fine with a single GPU
L253[14:41:32] <ben_mkiv> xD
L254[14:41:34] <AmandaC> ( That is, playing live video )
L255[14:43:43] <AmandaC> I run 6 screens with a single GPU faily well in my MC base
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L257[14:44:59] <ben_mkiv> you rebind it between the draw calls?
L258[14:45:04] <AmandaC> yup
L259[14:45:11] <ben_mkiv> sounds complicated
L260[14:45:47] <ben_mkiv> i should have done that with my market thingy back then ;(
L261[14:46:28] <ben_mkiv> but how about touchevents, do they fire while the gpu is bound to another screen?
L262[14:46:30] <AmandaC> https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/elevator/etc/rc.d/elevator-control.lua#L172-184
L263[14:47:32] <ben_mkiv> had this => http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=9fed8501aea8433a0c13556ee497c000
L264[14:47:41] <ben_mkiv> so 2 screens looked derped because i had to use tier2 gpus ;(
L265[14:47:46] <AmandaC> Yup touch events work fine, they even come with the screen ID so I can throw away events for the terminal from my elevator controls
L266[14:48:30] <ben_mkiv> nice and smart move
L267[14:52:30] * expert975 eats nanomachines
L268[14:52:32] <Molinko> @AmandaC I like lilac btw. It's pretty :3
L269[14:52:51] <AmandaC> It's actually not named (directly?) after the flower
L270[14:53:02] <AmandaC> my naming scheme for computers / servers is Firefly planets/moon
L271[14:53:06] <Molinko> still pretty :3
L272[14:53:06] <AmandaC> s/moon/moons/
L273[14:53:06] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> my naming scheme for computers / servers is Firefly planets/moons
L274[14:53:14] <Molinko> cool
L275[14:55:16] <Shiigehiro> Someone are using MineOS ?
L276[14:55:33] <Shiigehiro> Someone use MineOS ? [Edited]
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L279[15:58:01] <Forecaster> %loot
L280[15:58:01] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a tiny model shoe.
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L283[16:01:29] <Forecaster> sigh
L284[16:01:31] <Forecaster> wellp
L285[16:01:40] <Forecaster> there's a new zachtronics game...
L286[16:01:57] <Forecaster> I guess that puts the "what should the next detour be about" question off for now
L287[16:27:04] <AmandaC> %choose read after listen or watch or play
L288[16:27:04] <MichiBot> AmandaC: read after listen
L289[16:27:11] <AmandaC> hrm. Nah
L290[16:50:24] <Vexatos> [hype] https://julialang.org/blog/2018/08/one-point-zero
L291[17:07:24] <gamax92> %choose at the end is where we meet or the dawn is running down the street or but they can never catch us now
L292[17:07:24] <MichiBot> gamax92: the dawn is running down the street
L293[17:08:22] <gamax92> using a small ahk script to hook Alt-F4 and just force kill the process since it cannot close itself in a reasonable fasion
L294[17:09:07] <gamax92> instead it just hangs and takes forever to do nothing, it has nothing to save, it has no servers to communicate with
L295[17:19:31] <Kleadron> I wonder if its possible to make an eeprom that works like the macintosh boot screen where it checks for an operating system and if it doesnt find one it shows a blinking floppy disk icon
L296[17:23:25] <CompanionCube> i don't think you could fit the graphical stuffs in the space
L297[17:29:25] <logan2611> not with that attitude
L298[17:44:37] <Wuerfel_21> i guess if you minify the code and make the icon b/w and small, it could work
L299[17:44:58] <Izaya> Looking at it wrong
L300[17:45:04] <Izaya> Don't encode an icon.
L301[17:45:20] <Izaya> Draw one programmatically
L302[17:46:41] <Wuerfel_21> well, basically gpu.set(0,smth,"unicode art stuffz") i'd think, possibly looped for repeating lines
L303[17:52:24] <Kodos> Forecaster, newer than Opus Magnum?
L304[17:56:12] <ben_mkiv> yea what izaya said should work
L305[17:56:26] <ben_mkiv> with procedual stuff you it should only be few lines of code
L306[17:56:33] <ben_mkiv> -you
L307[17:56:55] <ben_mkiv> procedural procedural procedural
L308[17:56:59] <ben_mkiv> one day i'll get it -.-
L309[17:59:22] <Kodos> Exapunks kind of looks like Redirection. but I may be reading too much into it
L310[18:03:42] <Joco223> That took way longer than it needed to be but i made a Crafting Tree creator http://tinyurl.com/yd7ar2yf
L311[18:04:12] <Joco223> So you can craft whatever is in the crafting list as long as there is base materials for it
L312[18:07:48] <Joco223> Only thing that it could do better is that it doesn't use the left overs from nuggets for example
L313[18:11:22] <ben_mkiv> nice
L314[18:11:34] <ben_mkiv> but still no crafttweaker import ;( :P
L315[18:11:44] <Joco223> :b
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L320[18:49:30] <Joco223> http://tinyurl.com/ydaj8tgc
L321[18:49:38] <Joco223> Perfect ?
L322[19:00:00] <Vexatos> It's been four years and I am still surprised that people use OC at all
L323[19:00:59] <expert976> Vexatos: I wouldn't be surprised, it's a great mod
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L325[19:02:34] <ben_mkiv> four years since what?
L326[19:03:02] <ben_mkiv> also you know the term "alternativlos"
L327[19:03:03] <ben_mkiv> :p
L328[19:03:16] <Vexatos> four years since I learnt of OC's existence?
L329[19:04:20] <ben_mkiv> ah ok, wasnt sure when oc was released first
L330[19:04:24] <ben_mkiv> so that was an option too
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L333[19:22:04] <logan2611> the only alternative is CC and that sucks more
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L335[19:57:15] <logan2611> yeet
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L342[21:08:08] <ben_mkiv|afk> btw. is the angel upgrade broken again or still?
L343[21:08:27] <ben_mkiv|afk> cant place blocks in air with robots + angelupgrade on 1.12.2
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L348[21:27:55] <Kodos> What's your OC version
L349[21:28:05] <Kodos> IIRC it was fixed in 1.7.3
L350[21:28:12] <Kodos> Or was supposed to be anyway
L351[21:33:16] <Kodos> ben_mkiv|afk, ^
L352[21:37:03] <ben_mkiv|afk> oh. im still on 1.7.2
L353[21:37:07] <ben_mkiv|afk> thanks for the info :)
L354[21:37:23] <Izaya> today's dumb OC idea: screens without the polarizing filter, and polarizing glasses
L355[21:38:02] <ben_mkiv|afk> are there dev builds of 1.7.3 available?
L356[21:38:30] <ben_mkiv|afk> izaya maybe an own kind of xray mod would work, too?!
L357[21:38:41] <ben_mkiv|afk> with special blocks + glasses
L358[21:39:50] <ben_mkiv|afk> which actually seems like a neat idea at all
L359[21:39:55] <ben_mkiv|afk> not only for OC
L360[21:42:10] <ben_mkiv|afk> would probably fit the theme of that mod => https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/secretroomsmod
L361[21:49:00] <ben_mkiv|afk> or just use openglasses :P
L362[21:57:38] <Kodos> ben, check the jenkins for dev builds I would guess
L363[21:57:51] <Kodos> Wonder if this is a thing
L364[21:57:53] <Kodos> %jenkins
L365[21:57:58] <Kodos> Newp
L366[21:58:16] <Izaya> used to be
L367[21:58:21] <Izaya> or maybe it was called something else
L368[21:59:03] <Kodos> %devbuilds
L369[21:59:06] <Kodos> idk
L370[21:59:09] <Kodos> Forecaster would know
L371[21:59:25] <Kodos> I haven't actually downloaded a minecraft mod since building my new PC
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L387[22:15:23] <ben_mkiv|afk> yea i think the jenkins stuff was abandoned a while ago
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L390[22:16:25] <ben_mkiv|afk> aint so important, just gonna wait for a release
L391[22:16:35] <ben_mkiv|afk> https://ci.cil.li/job/OpenComputers-MC1.12/ last built was 4month ago
L392[22:17:50] <Mimiru> %test
L393[22:17:52] <MichiBot> Mimiru: No.
L394[22:17:58] <Mimiru> K good...
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