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L1[00:23:58] <{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> if only IOpenSecurity were updated to 1.12.2, like OpenComputers
L2[00:24:03] <{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> if only OpenSecurity were updated to 1.12.2, like OpenComputers [Edited]
L3[00:27:21] <logan2611> 1.12
L4[00:27:23] <logan2611> heh
L5[00:30:57] <{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> xD
L6[00:31:08] <{MonTaGaTnoM}Shawn> lots and lots of mods already ported to that release
L7[00:32:00] <logan2611> but it sux
L8[00:35:53] <Mimiru> Yes, well sadly I don't have time to port OpenSec to 1.12.
L9[00:36:31] <Mimiru> It's being worked on, just very slowly
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L11[02:57:53] <Forecaster> %loot
L12[02:57:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a pebble.
L13[02:58:11] <Forecaster> %inv add OpenSecurity for 1.12
L14[02:58:14] * MichiBot summons 'OpenSecurity for 1.12' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
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L16[03:09:50] <Inari> Boop
L17[03:10:17] <Inari> AmandaC: hehe, seen that one before :D It's great
L18[03:11:39] <Forecaster> I also, have seen Boop
L19[03:12:01] <Inari> [10:09:50] *MichiBot* AmandaC in #oc said: http://imgur.com/gallery/Z1sBfXE b-b-baka! on Jun 12 @ 23:37 UTC
L20[03:12:02] <Inari> :p
L21[03:12:02] <Forecaster> it was a great movie/event/performance/musical
L22[03:12:12] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/6Ce5mnW haha
L23[03:12:45] <Forecaster> well-endowed berries
L24[03:17:34] <Forecaster> https://notalwaysright.com/they-lost-their-favourite-haunts/53683/
L25[03:17:37] <Forecaster> poor ghosts
L26[03:31:03] <Forecaster> https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/13/steam-ending-windows-xp-vista-support-in-2019/
L27[03:33:14] <IzayaPhone> It's probably bad that that will be inconvenient for me
L28[03:34:34] <Forecaster> also they're replacing the chat thingy which is about time
L29[03:37:12] <IzayaPhone> As long as I can keep my MSN-style windows
L30[03:38:03] <Forecaster> https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2018/06/12/steam-chat-overhaul/
L31[03:38:05] <Forecaster> nope :P
L32[03:42:24] <IzayaPhone> Why
L33[03:42:27] <IzayaPhone> Fuck
L34[03:42:29] <IzayaPhone> Alrighr
L35[03:42:34] <IzayaPhone> Pidgin for steam chat it is
L36[03:43:16] <Forecaster> xD
L37[03:43:40] <IzayaPhone> I'll show up as being perpetually on mobile but screw it
L38[03:43:52] <IzayaPhone> I'll live with that for convenience
L39[03:44:05] <Forecaster> I don't even use steam chat
L40[03:44:31] <IzayaPhone> I don't use it much
L41[03:44:47] <IzayaPhone> For actually playing games I end up using mumble
L42[03:45:34] <IzayaPhone> The updated voice chat thing is nice I guess
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L44[04:08:06] <Forecaster> %loot
L45[04:08:06] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic genetic sheep! (25%)
L46[04:08:21] <Forecaster> ohno, science and magic mixed together!
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L48[04:10:41] <Kodos> %loot
L49[04:10:42] <MichiBot> Kodos: You get a loot box! It contains a single grain of rice.
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L54[05:12:00] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfkBXbjUYAA7Hd4.jpg:large Ooooh pretty
L55[05:59:44] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXOa66-k9MA
L56[05:59:45] <MichiBot> Exploding soda cans with electromagnets in SLOW MOTION ft Joe Hanson | length: 7m 56s | Likes: 18,227 Dislikes: 1,445 Views: 1,383,841 | by Physics Girl | Published On 14/6/2016
L57[05:59:45] <Forecaster> neat
L58[06:01:03] <Ristelle> os.time() keeps giving me the same values
L59[06:01:08] <Ristelle> value*
L60[06:01:55] <Ristelle> soo do I use os.clock or computer.uptime to determine the current time elasped?
L61[06:02:20] <Ristelle> oh wait I think i know why os.time() keeps returning the same value...
L62[06:02:28] <Ristelle> but os.clock or computer.uptime?
L63[06:02:54] <Ristelle> aka which one is more accurate.
L64[06:04:53] <Forecaster> probably neither
L65[06:05:01] <Forecaster> for a more accurate answer ask payonel
L66[06:05:14] <Ristelle> but he almost never online my time ?
L67[06:05:23] <Forecaster> so?
L68[06:05:36] <Forecaster> ping him with a question, come back and check for answer later
L69[06:06:01] <Forecaster> leave a tell if you want to be sure he sees it
L70[06:07:00] <Forecaster> and by tell I mean MichiBot's %tell command
L71[06:07:18] <Ristelle> seems like computer uptime
L72[06:07:20] <Ristelle> is accurate
L73[06:07:23] <Ristelle> enough ?
L74[06:11:30] <IzayaPhone> Uptime returns computer.uptime in seconds
L75[06:11:52] <IzayaPhone> os.time depends on platform
L76[06:12:12] <IzayaPhone> eg on *nix it uses seconds whereas on Windows it uses seconds
L77[06:12:31] <IzayaPhone> Erm
L78[06:12:37] <IzayaPhone> On windows it uses milliseconds
L79[06:14:11] <Forecaster> %loot
L80[06:14:11] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a tiny packet of rubber bands.
L81[06:14:23] <Inari> %give MichiBot an electromagnetic donut
L82[06:14:24] * MichiBot accepts the electromagnetic donut and adds it to her inventory
L83[06:14:26] <Corded> * <Forecaster> flicks a rubber band at payonel
L84[06:14:49] <Inari> %loot
L85[06:14:49] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains a talking spork.
L86[06:17:25] <IzayaPhone> https://a.uguu.se/DAByxEE1egn1_44256.jpg
L87[06:17:53] <Forecaster> The glare! I'm blind! Blind!
L88[06:18:09] <Forecaster> oh wait, photos don't work like that
L89[06:18:41] <Inari> They can
L90[06:18:45] <Inari> If your monitor is bright enough
L91[06:18:46] <Inari> :p
L92[06:24:09] <Forecaster> but then you'd be blinded by anything white :P
L93[06:26:14] <Wuerfel_21> I see a hackintosh
L94[06:26:18] * IzayaPhone switches on Forecaster's keyboard backlight, blinding them
L95[06:26:25] <Wuerfel_21> Cool and mediocre
L96[06:26:33] <Forecaster> my work keyboard isn't lit :P
L97[06:26:35] <IzayaPhone> https://a.uguu.se/GbffoccJP0r1_44255.jpg
L98[06:27:36] <IzayaPhone> Only things that don't work are NVIDIA graphics and WiFi
L99[06:30:36] <Wuerfel_21> RGB backlit keyboards are da shit. Instant rave guaranteed. 100% customer statisfaction
L100[06:32:51] <IzayaPhone> Instant regret.
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L102[07:29:35] <ben_mkiv|afk> xD https://i.redditmedia.com/vlgv4cM4YQxR1GWxZk6TBPAQ9DWympyWq6TG5iByAwc.jpg?s=b5b48385680198afca787819c6dc2f85
L103[07:31:38] <Forecaster> I wonder what happens if you try to quit then
L104[07:33:56] <Wuerfel_21> Unsaced changes
L105[07:34:02] <Wuerfel_21> *saves
L106[07:34:11] <Wuerfel_21> *saved
L107[07:34:32] <Wuerfel_21> Never use the ! sign, for it is evil
L108[08:06:13] <Forecaster> !w
L109[08:21:19] <Inari> Temia: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfkoTlVU8AIsmcw.jpg:large
L110[08:22:03] <Temia> Yeeeessss
L111[08:22:07] <Temia> This is good content
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L113[08:22:23] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DfkobdVVAAEdrnR.jpg:large is amusing
L114[08:22:25] <Forecaster> poofy
L115[08:26:18] <Inari> https://twitter.com/mayn_tw/status/1006846543322705920 makes me hungry :f
L116[08:26:18] <MichiBot> Wed Jun 13 05:31:36 CDT 2018 @mayn_tw: 通しリハ終わり!やばい!駆け抜けたー!!ちょうあつい!たのしい!!当日が楽しみだっ!!初めての、野外ワンマンライ部「BE SUNNY!!! at日比谷野外大音楽堂」!!よろしくねー!!! #晴れろmayn https://t.co/sK9tGEtB1W
L117[08:26:53] <Forecaster> the middle ones look horrible D:
L118[08:28:16] <Inari> Looks okay
L119[08:28:20] <Inari> The right and left ones look tastier
L120[08:31:10] <Forecaster> horrible!
L121[08:31:14] <Forecaster> the right ones look okay
L122[08:31:35] <IzayaPhone> I'm suffering physical withdrawal symptoms from not having internet :|
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L124[08:33:03] <Inari> I wonder what they even are
L125[08:33:11] <Inari> the topping on the middle looksl ike azuki bean paste?
L126[08:33:19] <Inari> and the left thing looks like soy flour
L127[08:37:40] <Inari> Maybe they are mochi? The green in the middle impies macha to me :p
L128[08:37:44] <Inari> And the stuff on the right looks honey coated
L129[08:44:53] <Alex404> how much can I go with opencomputers cables before lagging my potato out?
L130[08:44:56] <Alex404> asking for guidelines
L131[08:45:19] <Forecaster> you mean how far?
L132[08:45:21] <Forecaster> or what?
L133[08:45:29] <Alex404> I'm using a vanilli"ish" pack without a lot of way to move energy wirelessly, so i'm stuck with cables
L134[08:45:39] <Alex404> yes, lets say I want to put cables on my island
L135[08:45:41] <Forecaster> cables don't do much
L136[08:45:51] <Forecaster> except connect things
L137[08:46:19] <Forecaster> if you make sure to use power distributors so there are no components trying to connect you'll probably be fine
L138[08:46:48] <Alex404> so If i'm placing a thousand cable blocks it will be fine, tps side?
L139[08:47:02] <Inari> Are cables done in an efficient way? :p
L140[08:47:21] <Forecaster> probably
L141[08:50:44] <Forecaster> %loot
L142[08:50:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic brass sky pirate spoil! (25%)
L143[08:51:45] <Corded> * <Forecaster> tries to fit it to his pirate ship
L144[09:21:01] <AmandaC> Inari: Judging from what I did to enable OC support in YNot, I think the cables would only cause a lag on load, if anything
L145[09:21:39] <Forecaster> see
L146[09:21:40] <AmandaC> It's not like it's one block pushing a message to anothe rblock to another block to another block, it's all loaded into a network
L147[09:22:41] <AmandaC> s/a network/an in-memory network/
L148[09:22:42] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> It's not like it's one block pushing a message to anothe rblock to another block to another block, it's all loaded into an in-memory network
L149[09:28:22] <Forecaster> https://i.imgur.com/QoE8lbp.gifv
L150[09:28:25] <Forecaster> chicks dig cats
L151[09:55:06] <AmandaC> This looks like 3d factorio, and I'm not sure how to feel abou tthat: https://store.steampowered.com/app/526870/Satisfactory/
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L153[11:01:50] <S3> So I am implementing an intermediate process for oc monitor GPU stuff called a GPU packet driver
L154[11:02:15] <Temia> Getting a spoil out of a lockbox
L155[11:02:22] <S3> Should help with tty ansi handling
L156[11:02:26] <Temia> Congratulations, Forecaster, you now have experienced the Diadem in all of its glory
L157[11:03:35] <S3> It basically accepts a series of of ast like packets but it's not a tree
L158[11:04:41] <S3> It just concerts these packets into GPU function calls so that you can test the monitor as a steam
L159[11:04:50] <S3> Use*
L160[11:08:25] <S3> Itd be nice if I could do it all with pattern matching
L161[11:09:21] <S3> Hmm. Somebody told me more than one monitor and more than one GPU is a problem in OC long ago?
L162[11:09:27] <S3> Is that still an issue?
L163[11:10:54] <AmandaC> It's a bit confusing under OpenOS, but not really a problem per-say
L164[11:11:09] <AmandaC> I run all the display screens for my elevator off on server
L165[11:11:27] <S3> Ok. Because I had this idea of a server with a bunch of gpus on one monitor
L166[11:11:37] <S3> And switching between then
L167[11:11:42] <S3> Them*
L168[11:11:46] <AmandaC> uh. multiple GPUS for one monitor migh tbe weird
L169[11:11:51] <S3> Instead of having multiple framebuffer
L170[11:11:59] <AmandaC> I use two gpus, one for the terminal, the other to drive all the screens
L171[11:12:08] <S3> Hmm
L172[11:12:30] <S3> You do? How does the terminal not drive the screens
L173[11:13:31] <AmandaC> https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/elevator/etc/rc.d/elevator-control.lua#L328-333
L174[11:13:36] <S3> Ooooh
L175[11:13:53] <AmandaC> That's the code that pokes OpenOS into using what the config says for the terminal
L176[11:14:25] <S3> I see
L177[11:15:16] <AmandaC> Note: That'll only work under OpenOS, under your own OS you're on you're own
L178[11:15:45] <S3> Right
L179[11:15:57] <S3> Just looking for ideas
L180[11:16:14] <AmandaC> %choose watch or sit up and try and play some more
L181[11:16:14] <MichiBot> AmandaC: sit up and try and play some more
L182[11:16:19] <AmandaC> :(
L183[11:16:20] <S3> Lol
L184[11:16:29] <S3> What is it says that forever
L185[11:16:41] <AmandaC> I GUESS I'll work on my stationeers base some more
L186[11:21:09] <AmandaC> Oh, okay
L187[11:21:21] <AmandaC> I guess I can also lose internet as well
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L190[12:10:29] <Inari> https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9a/2e/0e/9a2e0e358c69d41a51fc9deb07cc0caf.jpg so prettttty
L191[12:41:39] <S3> Amandac: stationeers?
L192[12:42:12] <AmandaC> space game
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L194[12:52:06] <S3> Ic
L195[12:53:47] <AmandaC> S3: https://store.steampowered.com/app/544550/Stationeers/
L196[13:21:58] <payonel> Guest13_: what have i been working on? xarses asked that we have configurable key binding actions in the shell, and that those key binding behaviors be usable in user programs, such as in our editor
L197[13:22:25] <payonel> Guest13_: it's a really good request, but also has caused me to fall deep into a rabbit hole of separating our tty library from the host(cursor) library
L198[13:22:51] <payonel> i've made great progress, but as always, memory cost is a top priority in openos, and it is quite difficult to get a clean and robust api while not bloating openos
L199[13:23:37] <payonel> Forecaster: i was flicked? :) something about clock time vs uptime?
L200[13:23:54] <Guest13_> payonel: do you have some public branch with your current work to check out?
L201[13:24:26] <payonel> Guest13_: some times i share, but generally no, all my dev work is local
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L204[13:25:51] <payonel> Vexatos: o/
L205[13:26:27] <Vexatos> o\
L206[13:34:19] <Forecaster> Amanda: I think Satisfactory looks quite satisfactory
L207[13:34:25] <Forecaster> but we'll see when there's more info
L208[13:34:51] <Forecaster> well, less satisfactory and more satifexciting
L209[13:54:33] <Inari> Ahhh, why are kneesocks so good
L210[13:54:36] <Inari> Why is Lolita fashion so good
L211[13:54:37] <Inari> D:
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L214[14:14:34] <ben_mkiv|afk> payonel, my mod almost provides that and its on my todo for the next days already
L215[14:14:44] <ben_mkiv|afk> so that hotkeys fire a signal event
L216[14:16:07] <ben_mkiv|afk> actually its like 4-5lines missing code xD
L217[14:17:38] <ben_mkiv|afk> oh you talked about openos level
L218[14:37:43] <payonel> ben_mkiv|afk: handling key bindings as events would increase the handling code quite a bit
L219[14:37:57] <payonel> also, that would make a lot of noise (signals) for things that don't care
L220[14:38:02] <payonel> but, it's an interesting idea
L221[14:38:27] <payonel> also, key binding actions should intercept/replace natural key behavior
L222[14:38:34] <payonel> so, that wouldn't work for at all
L223[14:39:17] <payonel> Inari: what would you do if you had a super cute loli anime come to life, and was totally into anything you wanted to do?
L224[14:39:41] <Inari> No clue really, there isn't a lot I'd want an anime loli to do
L225[14:44:37] <Guest13_> is there a separate repo for openos, or it's just in assets/loot/openos?
L226[14:46:37] <payonel> Guest13_: it is oc
L227[14:46:45] <payonel> it has been suggested to make a separate repo
L228[14:46:58] <payonel> Guest13_: i work on all parts of oc
L229[14:47:02] <payonel> but, openos is my baby
L230[14:47:37] <Guest13_> i see)
L231[14:47:53] <Guest13_> i guess if I want tablets to be done right fast, I'll have to learn scala)
L232[14:47:56] <payonel> Inari: so, irl loli, not anime? does that change your answer? :)
L233[14:48:42] <Inari> payonel: Nah :D I'm mostly into lolis as a way of idolization and imitation. So it doesn't really give me much extra for there to be one
L234[14:48:48] <payonel> Guest13_: i suppose so. of course you can fork and do what you want. but if you want oc to use it, we need to agree on the changes
L235[14:49:37] <payonel> changing the timeout for "analyze" is definitely on the table
L236[14:49:41] <payonel> the 1s choice was arbitrary
L237[14:49:49] <Inari> The more ideal choice would be to become the loli
L238[14:49:50] <Inari> :D
L239[14:49:52] <payonel> i'm okay with 1. making that shorted, and possible 2. making that configurable
L240[14:50:07] <payonel> Inari: :D and how would you use your powers?
L241[14:50:15] <Inari> I'd be cute?
L242[14:50:35] <payonel> Guest13_: also, why not nick to sshilovsky?
L243[14:50:39] <Guest13_> do I need any specific tools? I've touched scala a little bit, I remember what sbt is, but pls assume I have no idea about anything above jdk development
L244[14:51:21] <payonel> Guest13_: well, currently also it is way too hard (impossible?) to clone and build oc because our deps and maven are a pain in the arse
L245[14:51:24] <Guest13_> payonel, I'm not a frequent irc user, so when I wanted to join here, I used web client, and Guest13 was suggested as a random name
L246[14:51:52] <payonel> Inari: forgive me for assuming you were
L247[14:52:16] <Inari> payonel: I mean, I am :P But not as cute as an anime loli or so
L248[14:52:20] <Inari> anime girls don't play fair
L249[14:52:21] <Inari> :<
L250[14:52:23] <Guest13_> I used to use username13 as a username a long time ago, so it kind of made sense to keep this one too)
L251[14:52:35] <payonel> Inari: haha, true
L252[14:52:57] <Inari> payonel: https://twitter.com/r2d2c3poacco/status/1006668949390594055
L253[14:52:57] <MichiBot> Tue Jun 12 17:45:55 CDT 2018 @r2d2c3poacco: 黒猫の冒険 https://t.co/xHMZIiFyFR
L254[14:53:28] <payonel> that is a large bird
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L258[14:53:38] <Inari> o.o
L259[14:55:32] <Chincheta> hi?
L260[14:55:51] <payonel> @Chincheta were you Churu_ ?
L261[14:55:54] <Churu> for some reason the bot bans me
L262[14:55:57] <Churu> yes i was
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L264[14:56:07] <Churu> but im no spam :c
L265[14:56:43] <payonel> @Chinceta: i dont know about the auto ban specifics in this case, but, apparently your webchat ip was black listed
L266[14:56:52] <Churu> yeah i saw
L267[14:57:00] <Churu> sorb.not
L268[14:57:05] <Churu> a spam ip list
L269[14:57:13] <Churu> i dont know why i am there :v
L270[14:57:35] <Inari> Well either you're spamming without knowing, or you just got a bad IP assigned
L271[14:57:49] <Churu> i hope it's the second one
L272[14:57:51] <payonel> or it is an ip range
L273[14:58:12] <Inari> Or that
L274[14:58:30] <Churu> anyway
L275[14:58:36] <Churu> i prefer to use discord xD
L276[14:58:51] * payonel snears at discord
L277[14:59:06] <Churu> im using discord right now ?
L278[14:59:10] <Churu> wat
L279[14:59:12] * payonel also sneers
L280[14:59:20] <Churu> : P translates to ?
L281[14:59:24] <Churu> :c
L282[15:00:02] <Churu> i like to see this mod has an active community
L283[15:00:34] <payonel> well, sure. if active means cats and lolis :)
L284[15:02:10] <payonel> Inari: what is a anthropomorphically feline loli called?
L285[15:02:26] <payonel> @churu did you have an oc question? or just checking us out?
L286[15:03:06] <Inari> payonel: no clue. catgirl loli? neko loli?
L287[15:03:14] <Inari> How anthro?
L288[15:03:31] <payonel> minimally ears, sometimes a tail
L289[15:04:39] <Skye> nekomimi
L290[15:05:34] <Inari> Well nekomimi can describe acatgirl, yeah
L291[15:05:36] <Inari> Doesn't imply the loli part
L292[15:06:56] <Skye> loli nekomini
L293[15:16:57] <S3> So
L294[15:18:49] <Churu> i dont know how to answer your msg :x
L295[15:19:24] <Churu> im checking out, because im playing this mod for the first time and i could use a little help x)
L296[15:19:36] <Churu> i'll ask when i know what to ask
L297[15:19:38] <payonel> ah, do you need a setup tutorial?
L298[15:20:48] <payonel> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL589ZQpg-Ef33WCoPVTdIqFmSyksJIPug
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L300[15:31:13] <payonel> Guest13_: i have some ideas
L301[15:33:24] <S3> Oh boy
L302[15:33:31] <S3> Payonel has ideas
L303[15:33:41] <S3> What did he break now
L304[15:33:50] <payonel> gonna break tablet_use
L305[15:34:00] <S3> Oh
L306[15:34:08] <S3> Tablets are a thing?
L307[15:34:23] <S3> Wow that will be useful for provisioning my ocdms switches!
L308[15:36:28] <S3> What can tablets so
L309[15:36:31] <S3> Do*
L310[15:36:50] <S3> Are that just an eeprom with a network card and monitor
L311[15:36:58] <S3> It something
L312[15:37:01] <S3> Or*
L313[15:37:02] <logan2611> no they are computers
L314[15:37:10] <S3> Ooooh
L315[15:37:14] <logan2611> They are full computers but with less internal space
L316[15:37:20] <logan2611> for components
L317[15:37:33] <S3> Okay then. I will run OC do ms on it
L318[15:37:40] <S3> Ocdms*
L319[15:37:45] <S3> And see what it does
L320[15:38:05] <S3> Well not dms, trotwood core
L321[15:38:06] <payonel> tablets also don't persist
L322[15:38:12] <S3> Good.
L323[15:38:15] <payonel> they turn off when you aren't holding them or something like that
L324[15:38:55] <S3> Hmm
L325[15:39:30] <S3> I need to think about how I can easily make a wireless AP for tablets to connect to
L326[15:49:10] <Forecaster> checking us out? lewd
L327[15:53:57] <Forecaster> a durgon http://tinyurl.com/y7uh38e4
L328[15:57:21] <Kodos> Ermagherd, er durgon
L329[16:04:26] <Forecaster> turned out pretty neat I think
L330[16:17:26] <Guest13_> tablets turn off when the world is unloaded (i guess also when a chunk is unloaded), or when walking through a portal
L331[16:18:01] <Guest13_> they keep their state even if containers, i suppose wifi would also work while the tablet is in a container
L332[16:18:13] <Guest13_> s/if/in
L333[16:18:14] <MichiBot> <Guest13_> they keep their state even in containers, i suppose wifi would also work while the tablet is in a container
L334[16:23:35] <Guest13_> yeah, wifi works; computer.beep() doesn't though :(
L335[16:26:54] <payonel> Guest13_: i have ideas for tablet_use
L336[16:28:41] <AmandaC> I have a half-baked idea in my head for a 'barcode scanner' tablet upgrade, that lets it read component IDs off stuff you "use" it on
L337[16:29:53] <payonel> Guest13_: so in favor of not changing the action (maybe making it configurable) and not making the timeout shorter (or making it configurable)
L338[16:30:02] <payonel> Guest13_: but instead, imagine you can initiate use actions from lua
L339[16:30:03] <payonel> :)
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L345[16:35:35] <Orbstheorem> Sorry ^^
L346[16:35:38] <payonel> Orbstheorem: pick a name and stick to it
L347[16:35:43] * payonel forgives
L348[16:36:35] <Orbstheorem> I was registering other identities ^^
L349[16:36:44] <payonel> ah
L350[16:36:44] <Orbstheorem> I just didn't notice I had autojoin x)
L351[16:36:52] <payonel> definitely okay :)
L352[16:38:00] <Orbstheorem> So, (Hi btw ^^) is it normal that EnderIO Redstone Conduits don't connect to computers with redstone cards and are not able to read directly from them?
L353[16:38:18] <AmandaC> MC/OC version?
L354[16:38:43] <payonel> Orbstheorem: they should
L355[16:39:04] <Orbstheorem> 1.10.2/1.7.2.170
L356[16:39:19] <Orbstheorem> forge12.18.3.2511
L357[16:39:52] <Orbstheorem> I updated the mod a couple of days ago, but I can't remember if they worked before
L358[16:40:00] <payonel> definitely sounds like a bug
L359[16:40:39] <Orbstheorem> When I place the EnderIO conduit it won't connect to the computer casing. I can force it with a wrench, but it won't read signals coming from the computer
L360[16:40:49] <Orbstheorem> Redstone lamp works fine though ^^
L361[16:43:31] <payonel> yeah, each block is going to have its own check
L362[16:43:38] <payonel> it's not a all or nothing thing
L363[16:45:09] <Guest13_> payonel, you mean, geolyzer.analyze() on a distant block the tablet is pointed to? Sounds good. Still, a tablet button click event can be useful regardless. Also, some information on the block coordinates with navigation upgrade is really my no1 wish
L364[16:45:36] <payonel> i'm not sure what component api to add it to
L365[16:45:50] <payonel> it's not something i've thought out very much :)
L366[16:46:50] <IzayaPhone> https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/
L367[16:48:02] <Guest13_> Probably this can be added to tablet component itself. It seems more reasonable than adding additional `side` value to geolyzer.analyze(), or adding another method to geolyzer component.
L368[16:48:16] <payonel> but the tablet doesn't have a component
L369[16:48:17] <payonel> does it?
L370[16:48:22] <Guest13_> it does
L371[16:48:23] <payonel> i dont know much about the tablet
L372[16:48:26] <payonel> really?!
L373[16:48:26] <payonel> ha
L374[16:48:34] <payonel> well, there you go. it would def. be on the tablet
L375[16:48:37] <payonel> but really?
L376[16:48:39] <payonel> that is odd
L377[16:48:40] <Guest13_> yes it does
L378[16:48:48] <payonel> what api does the tablet have? /me opens oc dev env
L379[16:48:51] <Guest13_> it has getYaw() and getPitch()
L380[16:49:14] <payonel> lib
L381[16:49:14] <Guest13_> i guess getYaw() was added in the most recent version
L382[16:49:16] <payonel> mr mice
L383[16:49:28] <payonel> yeah, i added it (or merged a pr for it)
L384[16:49:35] <payonel> but i forget some of these finer points
L385[16:49:35] <payonel> :)
L386[16:49:40] <payonel> ok, EASY
L387[16:49:46] <payonel> i'll add analyze there
L388[16:49:48] <payonel> or some other name
L389[16:49:54] <payonel> that's prolly a good enough name
L390[16:50:14] <Guest13_> please pretty please don't forget to add some way to know coordinates too :)
L391[16:50:26] <payonel> coordinates from where?
L392[16:50:35] <payonel> do you have a map?
L393[16:50:38] <Guest13_> from navigation upgrade map center
L394[16:50:49] <Guest13_> yeah, navigation upgrade can be installed into tablet
L395[16:50:57] <payonel> ah, yeah, i might look into querying more components to partipate in the analyze
L396[16:51:02] <payonel> sure
L397[16:51:16] <Guest13_> as well as via upgrade container, so it can have changable navigation upgrade to use in different area
L398[16:51:41] <payonel> whether installed or in upgrade container, it's just a component it its component list
L399[16:51:46] <payonel> just fyi
L400[16:56:38] <Guest13_> i'm just letting my imagination free here.. but if geolyzer would work sort of like a camera on a tablet, might it be possible to do selfies or photos with tablet?
L401[16:56:59] <Guest13_> i'm asking for a friend, he is a professional photographer
L402[16:58:23] <payonel> haha
L403[16:58:29] <payonel> doesn't computronics have a camera?
L404[16:58:31] <payonel> i'm not sure
L405[16:58:42] <Forecaster> it's basically a block detector
L406[17:01:25] <Guest13_> btw how does geolyzer currently know a color of the block? doesn't the color depend on client-side texture?
L407[17:02:27] <Guest13_> computronics have camera, which is "basically just a sonar"/radar: raycasting, w/o colors
L408[17:09:32] <Forecaster> Color?
L409[17:10:02] <Forecaster> The geolyzer only measures the hardness of blocks
L410[17:10:50] <Kodos> He might be referring to Geo2Holo
L411[17:11:03] <Kodos> In which case, the 'color' is determined by the program using methods for the HOlogram Projector
L412[17:11:24] <IzayaPhone> In other news
L413[17:11:36] <IzayaPhone> Still have a non-routable IP address
L414[17:11:42] <IzayaPhone> Still no packets being passed.
L415[17:12:20] <Orbstheorem> what's the wireless card range?
L416[17:12:31] <IzayaPhone> 400 or 16
L417[17:13:56] <Orbstheorem> Thanks :)
L418[17:18:41] <Guest13_> Forecaster, geolizer.scan() scans area only for hardness. geolizer.analyze() scans neighbouring block for multiple parameters: {color=0xABCDEF, hardness=0.8, harvestTool="pickaxe", harvestLevel=0, name="minecraft:sandstone"}
L419[17:19:12] <Guest13_> Kodos ^
L420[17:21:17] <IzayaPhone> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1528912542453.jpg
L421[17:21:37] <IzayaPhone> TFW LibreOffice is superior
L422[17:23:21] <logan2611> I wouldn't call it superior but they are pretty close, but LibreOffice has infinitely better value
L423[17:24:23] <IzayaPhone> I mean, I only have to run the JVM for LibreOffice, not a web browser so
L424[17:24:38] <IzayaPhone> I'd say that's some significant value :D
L425[17:24:41] <Wuerfel_21> Javascript is nasty tho
L426[17:25:10] <IzayaPhone> No shit
L427[17:25:14] <Forecaster> Oh right, I have no idea where that color comes from
L428[17:28:34] <Wuerfel_21> If jvm had less security bugs early on and could be embedded without a gui applet, the web might have had a programming language that isn't kindof shit
L429[17:28:38] <payonel> some ItemStack serialization
L430[17:28:44] <payonel> probably :)
L431[17:28:50] <payonel> but ive not seen color before, so, not sure
L432[17:29:08] <IzayaPhone> Java kinda sucks too
L433[17:29:13] <IzayaPhone> The JVM is alright.
L434[17:29:39] <IzayaPhone> Lua would have unironically been a better choice
L435[17:30:20] <payonel> except for the missing array index, lua is great
L436[17:31:22] <Wuerfel_21> Using DLLs for site scripting be like DANG
L437[17:36:20] <Orbstheorem> Transposers can't place directly into EnderIO conduits, can they?
L438[17:42:43] <Xal> netscape was originally going to have scheme on the frontend
L439[17:43:10] <Xal> but for marketing reasons, management decided it must have java in the name and "java-like" syntax
L440[17:46:58] <CompanionCube> so i have a 70% off coupon for galactic civilizations 3
L441[17:47:16] <Guest13_> https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/the-birth-and-death-of-javascript
L442[17:47:25] <CompanionCube> I'm unlikely to purchase the game myself, so does anyone want it?
L443[17:47:53] <IzayaPhone> Xal: so we ended up with a shitty scheme clone with Java syntax
L444[17:50:02] <Guest13_> shorter version: https://www.destroyallsoftware.com/talks/wat
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L449[18:36:14] <Guest13_> btw andesite is completely indistinguishable from plain stone with geolyzer.analyze() right now. the color and the name are the same: "minecraft:stone" for andesite, granite, and diorite
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L459[20:03:57] <AmandaC> Guest13_: that's intentional, it's based off the explosion-proof-ness of the block
L460[20:08:10] <Guest13_> AmandaC, you're not talking about hardness only? color and name are based on that too?
L461[20:09:02] <Guest13_> payonel, btw, there might be two or more navigation upgrades installed. analyze() method should probably have then a parameter for navigation upgrade uuid.
L462[20:10:37] <Guest13_> AmandaC, color is different for granite and diorite though. but not for andesite.
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L464[20:39:50] <AmandaC> Ah, I wasn't aware it gave more than hardness
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L466[20:48:13] <S3> Ok so
L467[20:53:32] <MichiBot> Timed ban of Churu_ Expired. Placed by: DNSBL Check
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L469[21:18:33] <S3> hm
L470[21:19:18] <S3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca9vmtrXd90
L471[21:19:19] <MichiBot> Nightcore - The Journey (Who Will Rescue Me ?) | length: 3m 7s | Likes: 58 Dislikes: 2 Views: 7,051 | by JF-Nightcore | Published On 20/6/2014
L472[21:35:20] <IzayaPhone> So
L473[21:35:35] <IzayaPhone> What options do we have for real time in game?
L474[21:36:09] <S3> you mean like RTC?
L475[21:37:14] <S3> if we don't have RTC you could pull it off of an IRC server or something, NTP is complicated.
L476[21:46:08] <IzayaPhone> I was thinking just serve UTC from a CGI script
L477[21:49:36] <Xal> request UTC from worldclockapi.com once per startup, and store that and computer.uptime()
L478[21:49:58] <Xal> then, whenever you want the time just call computer.uptime and compare with the stored UTC time
L479[21:52:18] <IzayaPhone> Eeeegh JSON
L480[21:54:12] <IzayaPhone> At least it's semi-easy to parse- match('"currentDateTime":"((%d%d%d%d)-(%d%d)-(%d%d)T(%d%d:%d%d)'
L481[22:09:09] <IzayaPhone> S3: bonus points, minitel service you can run on the same machine as the frequest http(s) proxy that provides realtime to a network
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L483[22:27:24] <IzayaPhone> Xal: also perhaps sync every now and then because if it's unloaded...
L484[22:27:38] <Xal> uptime() should handle that, no?
L485[22:32:13] <IzayaPhone> I don't think so
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