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<Forecaster>
%loot
L4[01:26:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get
a loot box! It contains a Magic one oinky boi! (25%)
L5[01:30:57]
<Forecaster>
:|
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<Forecaster>
if I'd implemented the new handler that would've said "one
magic oinky boi!"
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<Forecaster>
>:
L10[02:11:15]
<Forecaster>
names.
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This one is better because there are no unrelated posts listed
underneath it
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L17[04:38:41] <Inari> TES 6 woo
L18[04:39:41]
<Forecaster>
ohno
L19[04:39:57]
<Forecaster>
also you just missed a cat post
L20[04:41:36]
<Forecaster>
I'm very excited for the Glelder Scrolls VI
L21[04:42:03] <Inari> Just hoping they'll
go with a new engine
L23[04:42:22] <Inari> Haha
L24[04:43:16]
<Forecaster>
I'm very excited for the Glder Scrolls VI [Edited]
L25[05:01:52]
<Forecaster>
Cyberpunk 2077 looks fun
L26[05:07:57]
<Forecaster>
aw man, running a cyberpunk game but with monster people would be
neat
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<Forecaster>
%loot
L31[05:55:52] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains a Magic AmandaC's tenderness and
multi-vivid colours! (25%)
L32[05:56:13] <Corded> * <Forecaster>
gives it back to amanda
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L36[06:01:23] <Saphire> Heya
L37[06:01:29] <Saphire> %loot
L38[06:01:30] <MichiBot> Saphire: You get a
loot box! It contains a picture of a crudely drawn appendage.
L39[06:01:41] <Saphire> ...heh
L40[06:02:29]
<Forecaster>
probably a hand
L41[06:02:32]
<Forecaster>
hands are hard to draw
L42[06:06:46] <Saphire> Yeah
L43[06:07:50]
<Forecaster>
also claws. dragon claws specifically :|
L44[06:08:33] <Saphire> Aw, not that bad
o.o
L45[06:09:44]
<Forecaster>
well I'm terrible at it at least :P
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<Forecaster>
magic rocks!
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L53[07:26:07] <Asian_In4est> ебать
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<Forecaster>
uh, okay
L56[07:31:36] <AmandaC> Someone needs to
help that asian stuck in a forest! D:
L57[07:33:56] *
Saphire held AmandaC's asian?
L58[07:34:02] <Saphire> *helps even
L59[07:34:42] <AmandaC> ( I read that nick
as Asian in forest )
L60[07:35:11] <Saphire> Ah
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Inari wants a tritium smartphone battery
L62[07:46:23] *
Temia wants headpats '^'
L63[07:47:03] <Inari> %pet Temia
L64[07:47:04] *
MichiBot pets Temia with honey slime. 4 health gained!
L65[07:47:57] *
Temia needs a shower now, thanks :<
L66[07:48:20] <Inari> Nah
L67[07:48:23] <Inari> Just have someone
lick it off
L68[07:49:14] <Temia> ...
L69[07:49:23] *
Temia leaves to shower
L72[07:51:48] <MichiBot>
Devolver
Digital - E3 2018 Full Press Conference [HD] | length:
18m
19s | Likes:
1,855 Dislikes:
92 Views:
49,448 | by
GamersPrey | Published On 11/6/2018
L73[07:52:09]
<Forecaster>
Devolvers conference is about as entertaining as the last one
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L75[07:52:14] <Izaya> Yessssss
L76[07:52:22] <Izaya> Last year's was
excellent
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L82[08:10:12]
<Forecaster>
well, there's a story now :P
L83[08:10:24]
<Forecaster>
kinda
L84[08:11:08]
<Forecaster>
inari I don't get it
L85[08:11:28] <Inari> bang kok?
L87[08:11:55]
<Forecaster>
explosive kitchen?
L89[08:12:11] <AmandaC> bang-cock
L91[08:12:51]
<Forecaster>
yeah it's the name of a place...
L92[08:12:53]
<Forecaster>
big woop
L93[08:12:56]
<Forecaster>
:P
L95[08:13:01] <Inari> It's lewd
though
L96[08:13:15]
<Forecaster>
it's a stretch...
L97[08:13:16] <Inari> Fucking is the name
of a place too, istr
L98[08:13:29] <AmandaC> There's Intercourse
in my state
L99[08:13:42] <AmandaC> I have a friend who
grew up short drive from it
L101[08:14:48] <Inari> Uggh I hate when I
was about to do somethin,g but get distracted,a nd then don't
recall what I was about to do
L102[08:15:02] <AmandaC> Inari: give me
the rest of your soul, I believe.
L103[08:23:16] <AmandaC> @Forecaster why
does that sound like someone pointed a VHS camera at a TV and
uploaded it to youtube?
L104[08:23:30]
<Forecaster>
what?
L105[08:23:36] <AmandaC> ( The audio on
the Devolver Digital presentation sounds weird )
L106[08:23:51]
<Forecaster>
I didn't notice that
L107[08:24:00] <AmandaC> It's very
noticable on my TV
L108[08:24:04]
<Forecaster>
probably because it's supposed to be retro
L109[08:24:13]
<Forecaster>
or something
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L112[08:53:20] <AmandaC> ... or because it
was captured using a screen recorder
L113[08:53:42] <AmandaC> At one point in
the video you see the person who recorded it accidentally moved the
mouse, causing the twitch player overlay to appear.
L114[08:53:47]
<Forecaster>
I don't know, I only watched this one video
L115[08:54:05]
<Forecaster>
I wasn't paying attention to it at the time then
L116[08:54:12]
<Forecaster>
cause I missed that
L119[10:46:03] <MichiBot> Inari: Vexatos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L123[11:08:27] <MichiBot> Mon Jun 11
10:36:54 CDT 2018 @Yuki_Nakashim: おやすみなさい???
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L136[12:52:27] *
Inari feed AmandaC some felvine
L137[13:09:25] *
AmandaC meows at Inari, unsure what that is
L138[13:09:56]
<Forecaster>
%g felvine
L140[13:10:23]
<Forecaster>
well that's not super helpful
L141[13:16:46] <AmandaC> %choose continue
trying or woo, lazy day
L142[13:16:46] <MichiBot> AmandaC: woo,
lazy day
L143[13:16:55] <AmandaC> I concur.
L144[13:17:03] *
AmandaC puts her laptop away, lays down and binges some
anime
L145[13:17:14] <Inari> "Felvine is
the favored snack of the Melynx and is the prime target when they
attempt to steal from you. A Melynx will always steal a Felvine
from you if you are carrying any, so carrying some is a very handy
way of preventing other items being stolen! "
L147[13:51:54] <S3> Net
neutrality....
L148[13:52:25] <S3> Guess it's time to
start a public tinc net
L149[13:52:35] <S3> And circumvent
everything
L150[13:54:03] <S3> Or even mitm the fast
lanes an plug then into neutral qos trunks
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L152[14:30:38] <Temia> The way things are
going, it's more likely the world will just start routing around
the US outright.
L153[14:32:43] <payonel> AmandaC: i put
the BEL code in ocvm when i was hoping it'd "just work",
but nix terminals all seem to ignore it :(
L154[14:32:49] <payonel> but you're saying
it is in the wrong place?
L155[14:33:47] <payonel> S3: what weird
behavior have you found with ctrl? i believe AmandaC already
explained it to you, but because we run ocvm in pty, not a master
tty, i cannot "see" key-ups
L156[14:33:56] <payonel> thus i have to
sacrifice/emulate a few extra assumptions
L157[14:38:21] <AmandaC> payonel: istr at
some point it was mistakingly going to the logs instead of the
terminal
L158[14:39:01] <Inari> At leats GDPR seems
to encourage EU companies ot not host data on US servers
L159[14:39:02] <Inari> :D
L160[14:41:41] <Skye> Inari, remember,
talk to your MEP to stop the copyright law from fucking up
everything
L161[14:42:08] <Inari> I don't even know
who my MEP is :P
L162[14:42:29] <Skye> ...this is why
brexit happened
L163[14:42:36] <Skye> people are
ignorant
L164[14:42:37] <Skye> >_<
L165[14:42:57] <Inari> Well
L166[14:43:02] <Inari> I don't think I
could influence Brexit much
L167[14:43:11] <Skye> Inari, it's the same
thinking
L168[14:43:15] <Skye> peopld don't know
who their MEP is
L169[14:43:22] <Skye> so they just
complain instead of actually
L170[14:43:24] <Skye> doing
something
L172[14:43:28] <Inari> I don't care much
for politicsi n general
L173[14:44:14] <Skye> the price for
freedom is eternal vigilance
L174[14:44:20] <Skye> and seriously the
copyright stuff is important
L175[14:44:23] <Skye> like
L176[14:44:26] <Skye> if it goes
though
L177[14:44:33] <Skye> you will be unable
to link news articles
L178[14:44:47] <Skye> it'd be illegal
without paying them royalties
L179[14:45:06]
<Forecaster>
they're gonna have fun enforcing that I'm sure
L180[14:45:28] <Skye> .-.
L181[14:45:33] <Skye> this attitude of
"have fun"
L182[14:45:40] <Skye> "I don't
care"
L183[14:45:45] *
Skye sobs
L185[14:46:14]
<Forecaster>
I can't do anything about US politics
L186[14:46:17] <Inari> Eh, it seems I'd be
a very busy person if I wanted to go with every sily new
thing
L188[14:46:45] <Skye> basicallyi
L189[14:47:02] <Inari> Thats nice and all,
just seems sending a mail wouldn't do much :P
L190[14:47:20] <Skye> if an MEP of your
area includes an MEP on that undecided list then it's vital you try
to sway them
L191[14:47:23] <Skye> well actually
L192[14:47:26] <Skye> it will
L193[14:47:31] <Skye> it's on a vote of
literally 1
L194[14:47:37] <Skye> all it takes is one
person to go against it
L195[14:47:40] <Skye> so uh
L196[14:48:18] <Inari> Dunno, an e-mail
from some anonymous person claiming to be a German citizen
L197[14:48:19] <Inari> :p
L198[14:48:22] <Skye> if you manage to
convince an undecided MEP that you'd vote for them if they vote
against the stupid law, then they'd help
L199[14:48:43] <Skye> Inari, you can email
in german
L200[14:48:44] <Skye> or ring them
L201[14:49:04] <Inari> Nah, not one for
phonecalls
L202[14:49:08] <Skye> then email
L203[14:49:28] <Skye> if an MEP got a lot
of emails from local constituents
L204[14:49:36] <Inari> If theres one of
those copypaste letters, I might
L205[14:49:39] <Skye> (they can check, use
your post address or something)
L206[14:49:45] <Skye> they ignore
copypaste letters
L208[14:49:52] <Inari> Then thats that I
guess
L209[14:50:00] <Skye> and democracy
dies...
L210[14:50:06] *
Skye weeps dramatically
L211[14:50:12] <Inari> I don't know much
of "htis copyright thing" and I'm busy otherwise
L212[14:50:44] <Skye> Inari, to summarise,
most of it is meh, don't care, there are two parts that are
!!!
L213[14:51:05] <Skye> 1st !!! part:
required to pay royalities to news companies if you link to
them
L214[14:51:12] <Skye> that's stupid but
they think it'll work
L215[14:51:19] <Inari> Copyright at this
point has far outreached its original intent anyway, should just
get rid of it and restart
L216[14:51:31] <Skye> I know, but you
don't do that by letting it get worse lol
L217[14:51:42] <Inari> I don't even get
that part
L218[14:51:49] <Inari> Why would they want
royalties for linking to them
L219[14:51:53] <Inari> That makes zero
business sense
L220[14:52:06] <Skye> 2nd !!! part:
automatic censorship machines required. you know youtube content
ID? imagine that for every website or they are sued for
infringement...
L221[14:52:32] <Inari> That'll just mean
darknet will become vastly more popular :p
L222[14:52:34] <Skye> 1.5th !!! part: a
news company cannot opt-out of wanting royalties. technically
creative commons becomes illegal?
L223[14:53:09] <Inari> Like it just means
noone will link to them - or not as many people
L224[14:53:11] <Inari> So less
visits
L225[14:53:12] <Inari> ?.?
L226[14:53:33] <Skye> well it's more
like
L227[14:53:37] <Skye> they don't care
about small sites
L228[14:53:56] <Inari> It's not liek big
ones aren't affected
L229[14:53:59] <Skye> small news sites and
small user sites and small forums and small search engines can die
for all they care
L230[14:54:02] <Inari> Theres nothing they
lose bhy being linked to
L231[14:54:17] <Skye> they're basically
bargining on google paying royalties
L232[14:54:40] <Skye> probably what'd
happen is that they'd create a "licenceing body"
L233[14:54:49] <Skye> from big
companies
L234[14:55:00] <Skye> that then basically
monopolise news
L235[14:55:01] <Skye> wheee
L236[14:56:09] <Skye> the horrifying part
is that the people here don't understand the internet
L237[14:56:23] <Skye> but the part that's
most worrying is the part that is possible to implement
L238[14:56:32] <Skye> the mandatory
content ID system
L239[15:04:20] <CompanionCube> Skye: I
have no-one on that list :(
L240[15:05:22] <Skye> CompanionCube, try
to see if anyone in the UK will vote on it, sadly you can't use the
threat of voting (brexit) but maybe use the threat of this will
hang over us even if/when we leave
L241[15:13:14] <Inari> %pet Temia
L242[15:13:14] *
MichiBot pets Temia with methanol tea. 9 health
gained!
L243[15:13:19] <Inari> See
L244[15:13:22] <Inari> No shower needed
this time
L245[15:13:28] <payonel> AmandaC: ah, i
print it to both
L246[15:13:46] <payonel> AmandaC: i added
it to the logs post hoc when i realized my terminal didn't do
anything with it
L247[15:14:04] <payonel> AmandaC: perhaps
weird i write the literal BEL to the log :) i should/can remove
that
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<Forecaster>
%loot
L250[15:25:05] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You
get a loot box! It contains an empty array.
L251[15:30:20] <Inari> %loot
L252[15:30:21] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a fork in the road.
L253[15:35:56]
<Forecaster>
is a knife in the road just a road?
L254[15:45:54]
<Forecaster>
oh wow
L255[15:46:16]
<Forecaster>
Chrome has a printing dialog for 3D-printers?
L256[15:46:18]
<Forecaster>
:O
L257[15:47:56]
<Forecaster>
and one of the 3 printers it supports is the one I have, that's
nice
L258[15:48:11]
<Forecaster>
I need to plug it into my computer via usb when I've fixed it
L259[15:48:19]
<Forecaster>
see if I can send prints to it directly
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L261[16:06:58]
<Forecaster>
also, I *just* noticed today that the clock on the lockscreen on my
phone seems to be at different heights depending on the charge
level...
L262[16:07:04]
<Forecaster>
I've never noticed that before
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L264[16:43:20] *
IzayaPhone frowns
L265[16:43:34] <IzayaPhone> I do appear to
have no internet as of about 7AM thismorning
L266[16:43:49]
<Forecaster>
ohno D:
L267[16:44:08] <IzayaPhone> And it is the
day they said we'd switch over to VDSL
L268[16:44:16] <IzayaPhone> But I plugged
in the new router
L269[16:44:24] <IzayaPhone> And nothing
works :D
L270[16:45:09] <payonel> today is also
when netneut is dead in the us
L271[16:45:25]
<Forecaster>
clearly vertical DSL was not meant for us mere mortals
L272[16:45:33] <IzayaPhone> Now this
couldn't have happened yesterday, could it?
L273[16:45:38] <IzayaPhone> I was home
yesterday.
L274[16:45:57] <IzayaPhone> But I have to
be out most of today, and, of course, everything fucks up.
L275[16:46:08]
<Forecaster>
yep
L276[16:46:24]
<Forecaster>
that's a requirement
L277[16:46:28] <IzayaPhone> While we're at
it, the connection is showing it's been allocated a 10.0.0.0/8
address
L278[16:46:38] <IzayaPhone> ie they're
doing CGNAT
L279[16:46:45] <IzayaPhone> Now, that
isn't acceptable.
L280[16:46:49] <IzayaPhone> That won't
work for me.
L281[16:46:51] <IzayaPhone> At all.
L282[16:47:13] <IzayaPhone> I need an
external IP address.
L283[16:47:15]
<Forecaster>
I don't know what that is :P
L284[16:47:40] <IzayaPhone> I've been
allocated a local address as my WAN address, basically
L285[16:47:47] <AmandaC> @Forecaster:
their router is now under a NAT
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L287[16:47:53] <IzayaPhone> ^
L288[16:47:57]
<Wuerfel_21>
Oeuf
L289[16:48:06]
<Wuerfel_21>
No external ip
L290[16:48:10] <IzayaPhone> Of course, it
doesn't work anyway so who cares?
L291[16:48:15]
<Wuerfel_21>
What a scam
L292[16:48:34] <IzayaPhone> If it's
working and I am stuck under CGNAT I'm going to rip them a new one
when I get home.
L293[16:48:45]
<Wuerfel_21>
no ext. IP = no hosting = no free speech?
L294[16:48:49] <IzayaPhone> I signed up
with the understanding I'd get an external static IP address
L295[16:50:06]
<Forecaster>
out of curiosity what does something like icanhazip.com
return?
L296[16:50:15] <IzayaPhone> Nothing.
L297[16:50:19] <IzayaPhone> No
internet.
L298[16:50:27]
<Forecaster>
oh right
L299[16:50:49]
<Forecaster>
but what would it return if you did have a connection?
L300[16:53:48] <IzayaPhone> Dunno.
L301[16:53:53] <IzayaPhone> This is a new
connection.
L302[16:54:05] <IzayaPhone> Previously it
would've returned 210.1.213.55
L303[16:58:18] <AmandaC> %choose anime or
podcasts
L304[16:58:18] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
podcasts
L305[16:58:29] <AmandaC> Hrm. I guess
that's okay
L306[17:14:03] <IzayaPhone> So.
L307[17:14:11] <IzayaPhone> IP address
does seem to be external now.
L308[17:14:23] <IzayaPhone> However, the
router config page has stopped working.
L309[17:18:39] <IzayaPhone> ...
L310[17:18:51] <IzayaPhone> I suspect my
ISP changed the password for the router.
L311[17:19:06] <IzayaPhone> I'll note that
the card with the WiFi password on it is wrong anyway.
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L313[17:32:35] <Skye> IzayaPhone:
yikes
L314[17:33:40] <IzayaPhone> Cheap
disservice. Welcome to Australia.
L315[17:34:40] <Skye> Guess you'll have to
VPN if no dedicated IP
L316[17:35:01] <IzayaPhone> I had a
connection momentarily
L317[17:35:06] <IzayaPhone> Seemed to be a
dedicated IP.
L318[17:35:14] <IzayaPhone> Exposed the
router to the world.
L319[17:35:23] <IzayaPhone> Including
default credential web interface.
L320[17:39:38]
<Wuerfel_21>
Oeuf
L321[17:41:05] <Skye> IzayaPhone: can I
take over the world already
L322[17:44:09] <IzayaPhone> Not gonna stop
you.
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L324[17:59:59] <AmandaC> %tell inari your
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L325[17:59:59] <MichiBot> AmandaC: inari
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L335[19:50:51] <S3> I dunno if anyone else
found my problem with the extra 'end' in my Lua code the other
day
L336[19:50:56] <S3> but I sure as heck
didn't :D
L337[19:51:01] <S3> Taking another look
now
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L340[19:56:06] <S3> It's no Izaya, it's no
Phone, it's IzayaPhone!
L341[19:56:47] <S3> also, just found
it
L342[19:56:52] <S3> I found my missing end
wth
L344[21:13:41]
<jrddunbr>
It's a 503...
L345[21:14:02]
<jrddunbr>
acutally, everything there is a 503 right now
L346[21:15:30]
<jrddunbr> I
guess I could ask the question that the documentation would help me
with.
L347[21:16:13]
<jrddunbr>
I'm trying to read a file from the filesystem that is on a floppy
from an autorun.lua file on the floppy.
L348[21:16:51]
<jrddunbr>
For some reason, I'm getting an error. I believe that the working
directory is not changed to the disk
L349[21:19:08] <S3> ACTOR MODEL IS FULLY
WORKING YAYYYYYY
L351[21:19:16] <S3> I got event
registratiomn working too
L352[21:19:39] <S3> so now I just gotta
make some sort of stdin process actor that sends to the right
tty
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L356[21:34:28] <Mimiru> cil.li/ was never
meant to work.
L357[21:34:41]
<jrddunbr>
Ah, thanks
L358[21:34:51]
<jrddunbr> I
was just referring to how the whole site was a 503
L359[21:35:31] <Mimiru> oc.cil.li isn't
:P
L360[21:35:51] <Mimiru> ofc that's also
hosted on a different server, it's likely something is broken and
@Sangar will fix it soon.
L361[21:36:08]
<jrddunbr>
ocdoc is up now
L362[21:36:39]
<jrddunbr>
(that's what I was really using)
L363[21:36:41]
<jrddunbr>
and thanks
L364[21:36:52] <Mimiru> Ah, well there ya
go lol, but yeah cil.li has never worked, it used to just say
"Go away" a 503 makes more sense
L365[21:37:11]
<jrddunbr>
Heh. It says Go away now
L366[21:37:21] <S3> What the heck...
L367[21:37:31]
<jrddunbr>
Should make it a 418 :p
L368[21:37:38] <S3> can you not do
function foo(a, ...) ?
L369[21:37:49]
<jrddunbr>
or... whatever I'm a teapot is
L370[21:38:06] <S3> its 418
L371[21:38:07]
<jrddunbr>
yeah, that's rightr
L372[21:38:19] <Mimiru> %g http 418
L374[21:38:22] <Mimiru> ::P
L375[21:38:35]
<jrddunbr>
neat
L376[21:38:39] <S3> somehow lua ... works
like shit
L377[21:39:07] <S3> because
foo("blah", "foo", "bar") makes arg
in function foo(a, ...) nil
L381[21:42:15] <S3> Mimiru: I was just
following what the 5.2 manual was saying
L382[21:42:36] <S3> yes that
L383[21:42:54] <S3> what you linked,
that's what Iw as following actually, but it doesn't work.. so I'm
like, okay...
L384[21:46:13] <S3> ok. I highly doubt it
but maybe Lua is broke on my box
L385[21:46:30] <S3> bnecause I tried it in
a lua repl and arg is always undefined in any circumstance
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L390[21:52:33] <S3> hm. I really don't
want to but until I figure out wth is wrong I might just force
table sends for now..
L391[21:52:40] <S3> though that's ugly
af
L392[21:53:05] <IzayaPhone> S3: did you
hear about my internet?
L393[21:53:23] <S3> no whats up
L394[21:53:45] <IzayaPhone> I got up this
morning at 0700, and as of 0658 I'd been switched to VDSL,
apparently
L395[21:53:53] <IzayaPhone> So I plugged
in the new modem, nothing.
L396[21:54:06] <IzayaPhone> It's now 1253,
still nothing.
L397[21:54:37] <S3> DSL light on the modem
ever become stable?
L398[21:54:50] <IzayaPhone> Yup.
L399[21:55:00] <S3> okay, so it
authenticates with the DSLAM
L400[21:55:06] <S3> well noth
authenticates but
L401[21:55:08] <S3> links upo
L402[21:55:18] <IzayaPhone> I suspect the
router is just crap
L403[21:55:29] <IzayaPhone> It worked for
about 30 seconds around 8AM
L404[21:55:46] <S3> well you should be
able to plug right into your modem. If it doesn't give out DHCP you
may need to authenticate or something..
L405[21:55:58] <S3> like for example mopst
ADSL links use PPPoE in the US
L406[21:56:00] <IzayaPhone> DHCP is fine,
local network is fine
L407[21:56:08] <S3> I mean from the modem
itself
L408[21:56:18] <IzayaPhone> The modem is a
router too
L409[21:56:25] <IzayaPhone> Only modems
you get are routers too.
L410[21:56:28] <S3> okay so it's not
bridged
L411[21:56:49] <S3> I specifically got a
bridged modem :D
L412[21:56:57] <S3> because modems should
not be routers
L413[21:57:01] <IzayaPhone> They wouldn't
tell me the credentials
L414[21:57:21] <IzayaPhone> So I'm going
to set this to bridged mode once I know it works at all
L415[21:57:33] <IzayaPhone> And route via
my shitty WRT54GL
L416[21:57:59] <IzayaPhone> But yeah, I
didn't seem to be behind CGNAT when it worked at least
L417[21:58:16] <IzayaPhone> Too bad it
hasn't worked in 5 hours. :|
L418[21:59:06] <S3> with PPPoE on my ADSL
modem what I did was go in, set the password field to a text field
so I could see the cleartext password and wrote it down XD
L419[21:59:13] <IzayaPhone> Unfortunately
I'm not at home so I can't debug
L420[21:59:16] <S3> using the html
inspector
L421[21:59:19] <IzayaPhone> Aye
L422[21:59:26] <IzayaPhone> That's the
plan :D
L423[21:59:40] <IzayaPhone> But still,
this is the only VDSL hardware I have, so
L424[22:01:12] <S3> So if it's not
working, I wonder where it's not working. If your router and stuff
is getting DHCP from the modem and your router is giving out DHCP
and everyone's happy there, then it's possible when your service
was switched they deprovisioned your previous setup if you had
something on that circuit, then have some sort of order waiting for
a new provision to happen
L425[22:01:29] <IzayaPhone> Mmm
L426[22:01:59] <IzayaPhone> The only
person at home doesn't currently have phone service so I can't get
them to reboot it to see if it changes, either
L427[22:02:09] <S3> I work at an ISP now ,
and I actually saw that happen, where they just forgot tor
eprovision the new stuff
L428[22:02:17] <S3> so it was treated kind
of like a disconnect
L429[22:03:38] <IzayaPhone> How's working
at an ISP?
L430[22:03:54] <S3> Complicated, it's not
hard, it's just a lot of shit to remember
L431[22:04:24] <S3> imagine managing
telecom switches from the 70s through the 90s of many models all
with different telnet interfaces, etc
L432[22:04:28] <S3> some with complex
guis
L433[22:05:25] <IzayaPhone> Sounds like an
interesting job at least
L434[22:05:29] <S3> at the same time
remembering where to find everyones crap. Some times I can look it
up, some times you have to go looking. It's more of an
organizational issue imo, but I wouldn't expect it to be any
different anywhere else
L435[22:05:33] <S3> yeah it's kinda
fun
L436[22:06:12] <S3> Some of our telephone
switches have paper tape readers...
L437[22:07:12] <S3> I won't go into super
detail because you know, company privacy and all, but it's like a
blast from the past sometimes because, it's expensive to replace
really robust shit like that :D
L438[22:09:31] <S3> IzayaPhone: now I'm
just running on and on, but it's definately something I'd recommend
:D
L439[22:10:11] <IzayaPhone> ISPs seem like
somewhere it'd be relatively easy to avoid directly interacting
with Windows, too.
L440[22:10:48] <IzayaPhone> Maybe one
day.
L441[22:11:15] <S3> Depends. In my case,
we're locked down with Windows but that has nothing to do with
being an ISP it's just the way IT set up corporate networks
L442[22:11:30] <S3> I'm sure there are
many that have much looser expectations
L443[22:11:41] *
IzayaPhone nods
L444[22:11:57] <IzayaPhone> It doesn't
seem like you'd use Windows for routers or anything
L445[22:12:15] <S3> right, so most of
those switches are 100% custom
L446[22:12:26] <IzayaPhone> Ooooooo
L447[22:12:45] <IzayaPhone> I figured it'd
be a lot of teal blue gear tbh
L448[22:12:46] <S3> well the problem with
that is the whole, every switch has some different command
line
L449[22:13:04] <IzayaPhone> Cisco
whitewashing
L450[22:13:59] <S3> I'm not sure what
cisco has for circuit switching. cisco is definately useful for
routing Internet traffic in an ISP
L451[22:14:15] <S3> but if you do any
telecom you'll need circuit switches, which I am not even sure if
Cisco does
L452[22:14:48] <IzayaPhone> I haven't
heard of any, but it's not something I've paid much attention
to
L453[22:15:20] <S3> Though I would suggest
Skye, who wants to make (her?) own ISP, to provide VOIP to reduce
cost of circuit deployment
L454[22:15:28] <S3> if Skye didn't go
wireless for some reason
L455[22:15:51] <IzayaPhone> Her,
yeah.
L456[22:15:57] <IzayaPhone> Speaking of
VOIP
L457[22:16:10] <IzayaPhone> That's the
reason I can't call home right now :D
L458[22:16:24] <IzayaPhone> NBN deprecates
POTS here
L459[22:16:35] <IzayaPhone> So if your
internet is kill, so is your landline phone
L460[22:16:35] <S3> Yeah sorry iw as damn
sure Skye was a her i just didn't want to make the wrong assumption
XD
L461[22:16:45] <IzayaPhone>
Yaaaaaaaaay
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L463[22:17:23] <S3> Hm. I have heard of
that. Some towns do full VOIP to the home
L464[22:17:43] <S3> To be honest, I think
that a town enforcing it is a double edged sword.
L465[22:17:47] <CompanionCube> S3: DHCP
can need auth too
L466[22:17:51] <IzayaPhone> Well, now,
Australia, notorious for bad internet, is going 100% VOIP.
L467[22:18:11] <CompanionCube> but that's
easy to sniff with wireshark
L469[22:18:45] <S3> POTS is really handy.
I am getting a POTS line installed to my house and I'm installing a
56K Dialup serial modem to it
L470[22:18:55] <S3> it'l be connected to
the serial port of a raspberry pi
L471[22:19:01] <S3> so terminal server,
basically
L472[22:19:13] <CompanionCube> bbs!
L473[22:19:52] <S3> At the same time, I am
buying an FCT which is a modem like box that you stuff a CDMA or
GSM SIM card into and it connects to the cellular network and has
two analog telephone jacks.
L474[22:20:03] <S3> I am mounting this in
my car
L475[22:20:24] <S3> and in one jack I am
connecting a serial modem, ad mounting a 9 pin serial port to the
dashboard
L476[22:20:37] <S3> and the other I'll
connect an analog wireless phone
L477[22:21:10] <S3> I can either connect
to the pi terminal directly, or quickly enable PPP and route TCP/IP
traffic. Free Dialup + cost of cellular line, which will be <
$10 a month
L478[22:21:22] <S3> but, mobile
dialup.
L479[22:21:45] <S3> I hope to get 9600
baud. If I can squeeze 14400 in it, I will be amazed, and extremely
overjoyed.
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L482[22:22:51] <S3> for those super long
distance calls, I was thinking of wiring up a switch so that I can
connect my modem to the HAM radio.
L483[22:24:20] <S3> (with downfall of 1200
baud being best, likely 300 or 600 most of the time)
L484[22:24:27] <CompanionCube> IzayaPhone:
if it's cgnat tear them a double new one
L485[22:24:33] <S3> enough for an okay
terminal console
L486[22:24:55] <CompanionCube> and obtain
the world's shittiest VPS to use as a fancy proxy.
L487[22:25:15] <S3> I wonder how many
people have done dialup in their car :D
L488[22:25:28] <S3> It has to have been
done
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L491[23:02:13] <CompanionCube>
CopperheadOS is dead.
L492[23:04:45]
<Kodos>
Satisfactory looks neat
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L494[23:10:47] <S3> IzayaPhone: great
news!
L495[23:10:56] <S3> the actor model so far
appears responsive
L496[23:10:59] <S3> and is now 100%
working
L497[23:11:12] <IzayaPhone> :D
L498[23:11:13] <S3> I have a program
receiving key_down events
L499[23:11:41] <S3> I really need to clean
up the API though
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