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L8[02:49:12] zsh
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L9[03:45:29] *
Saphire waves at Vexatos sleepily
L10[03:45:42] <Saphire> Darn heat... I keep
falling asleep.
L11[03:47:49] <Vexatos> it just started
raining today for the first time in years
L12[03:48:51] 
<Forecaster>
ohno
<Forecaster>
ohnoL13[03:48:56] <Forecaster>
you'll melt
<Forecaster>
you'll meltL14[03:49:09] <Vexatos> I have been melting
for the past two weeks
L15[03:49:12] <Vexatos> this is great
L16[03:49:28] <Forecaster>
wait, the rain is not highly acidic?
<Forecaster>
wait, the rain is not highly acidic?L17[03:49:45] <Vexatos> I am insoluble in
water and largely insoluble in acid
L18[03:49:58] <Vexatos> heat, however, is
harmful
L19[04:02:40] <SquidDev> It's nice and cool
in Scotland :).
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L24[05:36:41] *
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L25[05:46:49] <Forecaster>
catknife
<Forecaster>
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L27[06:28:05] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/qtOzvLy
L28[06:32:25] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIijaRCr_hE xD
L29[06:32:26] <MichiBot> How to stop
anyone from snoring (snoring dog) | length: 33s | Likes:
66,866 Dislikes: 2,408 Views: 3,762,438 | by Tal
Solomon | Published On 2/1/2017
L30[08:19:08] <S3> anyone interested in a
tftp like eeprom called TFT that just sits on the modem and lets
you send files over?
L31[08:19:20] <S3> and optionally boot
using some config on it
L32[08:19:36] <S3> I figured it'd be useful
for provisioning / setting up microcontrollersd
L33[08:19:47] <S3> and storing on
tmpfs
L34[08:20:54] <S3> payonel: btw how do the
modems work on ocvm?
L35[08:20:58] <S3> do they?
L36[08:21:38] <AmandaC> They do, different
ocvm instances connect
L37[08:21:48] <S3> Awesome.
L38[08:22:07] <AmandaC> The first running
one to attach a modem opens a socket and creates a lock file
L39[08:22:42] <S3> I don't have much for
computers that are not reallty old atm, so I got ocvm compiling on
WSL Debian on Windows 10. I figured it should be fine no problem on
WSL
L40[08:23:23] *
Izaya sends S3 a core 2 duo machine
L41[08:23:35] <S3> I never had a core 2
duo
L42[08:23:41] <S3> I only ever had core
duos
L43[08:23:42] <S3> :D
L44[08:23:54] <S3> core 2 duo was the 64
bit core duo right?
L45[08:26:01] <Izaya> Aye
L46[08:26:16] <Izaya> I have this beefy C2D
box kicking around
L47[08:26:39] <Izaya> C2D, 8GB RAM,
8800GT
L48[08:26:51] <Izaya> No idea what to do
with it :|
L49[08:26:58] <S3> AmandaC: modem works
great on WSL, thanks!
L50[08:27:18] <Izaya> I wonder if OCVM
would work under uh
L51[08:27:21] <Izaya> WSUA
L52[08:27:28] <S3> wsua?
L53[08:27:41] <Izaya> Windows Services for
Unix Applications
L54[08:27:48] <Izaya> WSL but sysv
L55[08:27:56] <S3> oh disgusting
L56[08:28:00] <Izaya> And available since
W2K or so
L57[08:28:08] <S3> wat?
L58[08:28:16] <Izaya> Possibly NT4
L59[08:28:21] <S3> oh wait sysv not
systemd
L60[08:28:26] <S3> :D
L61[08:28:30] <S3> I was like wat
L62[08:28:47] <S3> NT4 was great in terms
of Microsoft
L63[08:28:54] <S3> I really liked it
considering
L64[08:29:08] <Izaya> Windows NT had the
potential to be really cool
L65[08:29:16] <Izaya> It has some nice
features
L66[08:29:22] <S3> if NT4 had an open
source kernel
L67[08:29:32] <Izaya> There's the kernel
leaks
L68[08:29:43] <S3> There was React, but
didn't react base on a 9x kernel?
L69[08:30:02] <Izaya> ReactOS is 2k3
L70[08:30:05] <S3> ok
L71[08:30:11] <Izaya> Clean room
implementation
L72[08:30:25] <S3> I wonder if they ever
uipdated it
L73[08:30:31] <S3> for years it was never
updated
L74[08:30:39] <S3> just kinda collecting
dust it semeed
L75[08:30:40] <Izaya> ReactOS got a big
update
L76[08:30:45] <S3> ooh
L77[08:30:51] <Izaya> Like a week or two
ago
L78[08:30:54] <S3> huh
L79[08:31:01] <Izaya> 0.4.8
L80[08:31:01] <S3> because I checked in
like 2007
L81[08:31:03] <S3> then like 2009
L82[08:31:08] <S3> then like 2012...
L83[08:31:15] <S3> and Iw as like come on
when you going to go in beta
L84[08:31:27] <Izaya> Haiku B1 soon
L85[08:31:31] <S3> :)
L86[08:31:33] <S3> nice
L87[08:31:33] <Izaya> E x c I t I n g
L88[08:31:36] <S3> you and your beos
L89[08:31:40] <S3> what is so special about
beos?
L90[08:31:50] <Izaya> It's actually
designed for desktop use.
L91[08:32:10] <S3> so it's like a non
industrial / high commercial grade nix?
L92[08:32:18] <Izaya> Not nix.
L93[08:32:30] <S3> huh, I thought beos was
very nixy
L94[08:32:34] <Izaya> It's mostly
posix
L95[08:32:44] <Izaya> Filesystem is a
tree
L96[08:32:56] <Izaya> But it's designed to
be used interactively with a GUI
L97[08:33:14] <Izaya> Rather than shared
between 100 people using VT102s on a 70s mainframe
L98[08:33:21] <S3> rofl
L99[08:33:37] <Izaya> Or rather
L100[08:33:46] <S3> I always thought the
tab like WM frames were weird.
L101[08:34:01] <Izaya> Multiple CPUs per
person rather than multiple people per CPU
L102[08:34:09] <S3> I see.
L103[08:34:11] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/img/cc-beos-bebox.webm
L104[08:35:42] <Izaya> Also notable for
having a much shorter graphics stack than the nixes
L105[08:36:19] <Izaya> So once there's
hardware 3D accel I expect some impressive results :D
L106[08:37:47] <S3> so Haiku on
threadripper?
L107[08:38:09] <Izaya> It'd be excellent
:D
L108[08:38:48] <S3> heh
L109[08:38:57] <S3> Maybe I should make a
Haiku system then
L110[08:39:03] <S3> what's the API like
for writing software?
L111[08:39:14] <Izaya> If you like C++
it's great
L112[08:39:19] <S3> I don't
L113[08:39:32] <Izaya> Hm.
L114[08:39:33] <S3> But I'm not going to
complain if it's clean
L115[08:39:34] <Izaya> Well.
L116[08:39:42] <S3> Most C++ however is
not clean :D
L117[08:40:03] <Izaya> I'd bet it's
relatively clean, but I don't know C++ very well
L118[08:40:18] <S3> In the world of C I
would choose C over C++ usually personally
L119[08:40:56] <S3> I think that C++'s
take on object oriented programming is very outdated and limited,
and will never get a rehaul.
L120[08:41:25] <S3> That said, C++ is also
a bit different than it was in the 80s
L121[08:42:35] <S3> My point is though if
I want object oriented, I probably won't go for a family of systems
languages such as the C family of languages. I'll probably go for
something very much high level, without that grey area
L122[08:42:53] <Izaya> From what I gather
C++ was chosen because in the 90s C++ could do decent OOP and
performed well
L123[08:43:01] <S3> Those languages
typically have a much richer feature set for OOP development.
L124[08:43:10] <Izaya> Also outputted
native code so there's that
L125[08:43:17] <S3> Right.
L126[08:43:55] <S3> But as the world of
OOP practices have improved and changed over the years C++ sort of
drowned in its own limitations
L127[08:44:30] *
Izaya nods
L128[08:44:34] <S3> I don't think it can
ever be fixed with its current syntax, and I don't think that the
syntax should be up for questioning either.
L129[08:45:08] <Izaya> I don't dislike C++
(or C) but they're both old and somewhat stuck in their ways
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L131[08:46:31] <S3> For computer
engineering related purposes I use C quite a lot, but I prefer to
write in Assembly in that sense, and always try to avoid C when
doing anything high level, because there's just so much more to
choose from high level that suits my needs better.
L132[08:47:00] <S3> So, generally, I will
write C headers so that other people can call my assembly
routines
L133[08:47:29] <S3> but I usually don't
care to write more than that because, C is slow as hell even with
-O3 in the computer engineering world
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L135[08:48:28] <S3> if it took 1uc to jump
in and out of a function call for example, and you did that 1000
timnes per second, that means that you literally waste 1 whole
second, it adds up fast.
L136[08:48:43] <S3> 1 second of doing
nothing but going in and out of functions!
L137[08:48:46] <Izaya> I need to poke rust
more some time
L138[08:49:12] <S3> Yeah, I haven't been
able to get into Rust, but I have more faith in it in terms of
security and stability.
L139[08:49:30] <S3> I think it beats C out
of the water in those terms
L140[08:51:38] <Izaya> Rust works on
Haiku.
L141[08:51:43] <Izaya> :D
L142[08:52:08] <Izaya> https://shadowkat.net/img/p2-beos.webm
L143[08:55:12] <S3> payonel: I have
probably said this before but I find the behavior of ctrl to be
very weird.
L144[08:58:02] <AmandaC> S3: in
ocvm?
L145[08:58:49] <S3> Maybe. I don't have MC
to test it on MC
L146[08:59:06] <S3> I was just playing
around with dmesg and it was kinda weird.
L147[09:00:03] <AmandaC> ocvm has to make
some sacrafices in the keyboard department because of limitations
of the input system
L148[09:00:13] <AmandaC> ( Linux shell
input, not ocvm input )
L149[09:00:50] <AmandaC> for instance, you
don't get notified about modifiers alone being pressed in a normal
linux shell
L150[09:01:33] <S3> right, ctrl just
subtracts 32 of your ascii code anyways generally
L151[09:10:14] <Mimiru> So... what does
left control do..? lmao
L152[09:10:27] <Forecaster>
control the left!
<Forecaster>
control the left!L153[09:10:44] <Forecaster>
or maybe that's what they want you to think, and it actually
controls the right
<Forecaster>
or maybe that's what they want you to think, and it actually
controls the rightL154[09:21:01] <S3> Mimiru: It's a bit
different nowadays but, there were some ascii keyboards a long time
ago where the ctrl key would do nothing but pull the top two bits
of the output code low, effectively subtracting 32.
L155[09:21:18] <S3> of course keyboards
are a lot more advanced these days
L156[09:23:17] <S3> Having known that, it
can be useful, I work at an ISP, where some of the old telephon
switches that are 50 years old can't handle backspace, so you use
ctrl H instead to send it the appropriate ASCII code to
backspace.
L157[09:23:33] <S3> over the telnet
line
L158[09:27:32] <S3> ugh I can't figure out
where this stupid lack of end is
L159[09:27:41] <S3> sometimes I hate these
damn parsers
L160[09:32:32] <S3> ROFL
L161[09:32:47] <S3> AmandaC: the beep
function emits the windows 10 notification sound
L162[09:32:47] <S3> XD
L163[09:33:01] <Izaya> set that noise to
an OC beep
L164[09:33:02] <Izaya> :D
L165[09:35:07] <S3> -I think it's because
it's the sound when you hit backspace or something in the terminal
console prompt and there's no room left, so it probably just plays
that souind in \a or something
L166[09:35:17] <S3> lemme see
L167[09:35:24] <S3>
L168[09:35:25] <AmandaC> I don't think
beep even is wired up yet? but yeah, ocvm just emits a BEL
L169[09:35:40] <AmandaC> ( But last I
looked it did so to the wrong place )
L170[09:38:23] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L171[09:38:24] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with "safety" helmet. 11 health
gained!
L172[09:38:33] <Inari> %loot
L173[09:38:34] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a
loot box! It contains a Magic AmandaC's laptop! (25%)
L174[09:38:41] <Inari> :o
L175[09:39:55] <AmandaC> h-hey! I need
that for warms. D:
L176[09:40:53] *
Izaya mails AmandaC a Pentium 4 machine
L177[09:41:01] <Izaya> That has the heat
output of a small country.
L178[09:44:47] <Inari> What if the small
country has multiple Pentium 4 machines
L179[09:45:10] <Izaya> Then we'll all die
of global warming.
L180[09:45:13] <Izaya> :D
L181[09:51:11] <S3> Well that's
annoying...
L182[09:51:35] <S3> http://paste.pc-logix.com/atuvosaciv.lua
L183[09:51:49] <S3> I have been trying to
track down a missing "end" at EOF all morning
L184[09:51:52] <S3> I must be blind
XD
L185[09:56:17] <S3> The thing that bugs me
is if I throw an extra end at the end of the file then it works
fine..
L186[09:58:29] <S3> hmm its definately not
spin()
L187[09:58:36] <S3> so somewhere above
there I gotta find it
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L189[10:16:50] <Inari> The heck is
UAclips
L190[10:29:58] <Forecaster>
it's a clip for your alternate universes
<Forecaster>
it's a clip for your alternate universesL191[10:30:05] <Forecaster>
they just wont stay together otherwise
<Forecaster>
they just wont stay together otherwiseL192[10:39:17] *
Temia drafts the Anti-Prescott Proliferation Treaty
L193[10:39:36] <Temia> We will work on
global disarmament of these Pentium 4 cores!
L194[10:57:00] <Skye> NEVER!
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L198[11:48:19] <Guest13__> Hi
L199[11:48:27] <Izaya> Hi
L200[11:48:56] <Guest13__> Is it possible
to switch on/off cable connections? Just found out that pistons
can't push cable blocks
L201[11:49:11] <Izaya> Temia: does that
make me an internaitonal criminal if I salvage and repair Pentium 4
devices?
L202[11:49:20] <Izaya> Not with plain
OpenComputers, Guest13__
L203[11:49:23] <Guest13__> I need to
control power supply based on redstone signal
L204[11:49:26] <Izaya> I think
OpenSecurity has a block for that.
L205[11:49:53] <Guest13__> Thanks, gonna
check it out
L206[11:50:20] <Skye> I think you
can
L207[11:50:22] <Skye> wait
L208[11:50:26] <Skye> there's the net
splitter
L209[11:50:31] <Skye> Guest13__, is there
a net splitter?
L210[11:51:27] <Izaya> I thought that was
an OpenSecurity thing
L211[11:52:08] <Guest13__> yeah, there is
a net splitter in OC
L212[11:52:23] <Izaya> oh
L213[11:52:27] <Izaya> that was what I was
thinking of then
L214[11:52:37] <Guest13__> Isn't it for
wired network control only?
L215[11:52:55] <Guest13__> would it switch
power connection off?
L216[11:53:14] <Izaya> I'm not entirely
sure.
L217[11:53:21] <Izaya> I'd assume it cuts
power off but I may be wrong.
L218[11:54:45] <Guest13__> yes it does!
thanks
L219[11:58:02] <Guest13__> and the
comparator is the only way to read power level in capacitors?
L220[12:00:46] <Guest13__> It seems to
read only the power level of a single capacitor, not the whole
group. So if that particular capacitor is on zero, while others are
full, I can have a false alarm
L221[12:01:41] <Izaya> you can measure the
amount of power in the system
L222[12:01:47] <Izaya> I think it's in ...
computer?
L223[12:01:49] <Izaya> ~w computer
L224[12:01:49] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:computer
L225[12:04:13] <Guest13__> oh my I'm
feeling dumb. I thought it was only for the internal storage
L226[12:06:36] <Guest13__> power
distributor seems to solve the issue as well though
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L231[13:10:14] <Kodos>
Guess the FTB subreddit doesn't like people calling out fickle mod
devs
<Kodos>
Guess the FTB subreddit doesn't like people calling out fickle mod
devsL232[13:10:19] <Kodos> Ah
well, off to lunch ?
<Kodos> Ah
well, off to lunch ?L233[13:20:34] <Forecaster>
wellp, time to make another 100 titlecards
<Forecaster>
wellp, time to make another 100 titlecardsL234[13:42:19] <Forecaster>
hm, I also need one more detour video before I go on
vacation...
<Forecaster>
hm, I also need one more detour video before I go on
vacation...L235[13:43:17] ***
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L236[13:43:33] <ben_mkiv> well ftb teams
are trolls anyways
L237[13:44:08] <ben_mkiv> they remove/add
mods in packs like they roll a dice for each update, no matter if
the map gets unusable
L238[13:53:26] <Kodos> I
was just on a post about Elucent's mods. Apparently Elu left the
community again, and I was commenting about making a poll on how
long before they come back, since this is like the 3rd time they've
leftg
<Kodos> I
was just on a post about Elucent's mods. Apparently Elu left the
community again, and I was commenting about making a poll on how
long before they come back, since this is like the 3rd time they've
leftgL239[13:53:27] <Kodos> I
was just on a post about Elucent's mods. Apparently Elu left the
community again, and I was commenting about making a poll on how
long before they come back, since this is like the 3rd time they've
left [Edited]
<Kodos> I
was just on a post about Elucent's mods. Apparently Elu left the
community again, and I was commenting about making a poll on how
long before they come back, since this is like the 3rd time they've
left [Edited]L240[14:12:40] <AmandaC> I did a thing:
https://nc.ddna.co/index.php/s/rQCK3CB2TGDxPTo
L241[14:14:43] <AmandaC> Specifically, the
icons that appear when you slide the item to the side
L242[14:18:00] <AmandaC> That's ~150 lines
of kotlin from the helper class. <20 including the item handling
callback from the call-side. :D
L243[14:19:42] <Izaya> :D
L244[14:19:51] <Izaya> Weird android skin
tho
L245[14:20:13] <AmandaC> That's just
material design android
L246[14:20:30] <Izaya> Is that like
v8?
L247[14:20:47] <Izaya> Still running 7.1
here
L248[14:21:02] <Izaya> Still shit
L249[14:21:30] <AmandaC> That's from an
emulator running the P beta
L250[14:22:17] <Izaya> Oh so that'll be
9?
L251[14:24:14] <AmandaC> yup
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L253[14:31:34] <Guest13__> Is OC 1.7.3
coming any time soon?
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L255[14:54:22] <Mimiru>
1.7.3 will be out roughly around the time it is released.
<Mimiru>
1.7.3 will be out roughly around the time it is released.L256[14:58:49] <Forecaster>
+ times_asked months
<Forecaster>
+ times_asked monthsL257[14:59:30] <Vexatos> Whenever my PR
gets merged :^)
L258[14:59:32] <MGR>
^
<MGR>
^L259[14:59:48] <Forecaster>
the release PR?
<Forecaster>
the release PR?L260[15:00:59] <Vexatos> no, my one big
contribution to OC in the past 6 months >_>
L261[15:01:11] <Vexatos> there's also a
few other PRs waiting
L262[15:01:23] <Vexatos> but those PRs all
need some thorough testing so eh
L263[15:06:04] <MGR> ~w
event
<MGR> ~w
eventL264[15:06:04] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:event
L265[15:39:13] <AmandaC> Vexatos: what's
the PR for?
L266[15:53:44] <Vexatos> absolute
magic
L267[15:54:07] <Vexatos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/2762
L268[15:54:45] <Vexatos> that's a few
weeks of attempts and work right there :I
L269[15:55:16] <Vexatos> on some servers,
it made orders of magnitude of a difference >_>
L270[15:55:28] <Vexatos> but it hasn't
been tested for reliability much
L271[16:04:41] <AmandaC> I see
L272[16:28:19] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L273[16:28:20] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a pressurised AmandaC. 3 health
gained!, the pressurised AmandaC suddenly ceases to
be.
L274[16:28:27] <Forecaster>
I locked myself out of my apartment today :D
<Forecaster>
I locked myself out of my apartment today :DL275[16:28:39] <MGR>
%ohno
<MGR>
%ohnoL276[16:28:39] <MichiBot> MGR: ohno
L277[16:28:52] <Forecaster>
first time \o/
<Forecaster>
first time \o/L278[16:30:52] <Inari> Forecaster: Did it
hurt?
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L280[16:33:33] <Forecaster>
well, it was kinda embarrassing I suppose :P
<Forecaster>
well, it was kinda embarrassing I suppose :PL281[16:34:52] <AmandaC> D:
L282[16:35:18] <AmandaC> Damnit, just when
I started being happy with my atmospherics stuff, MichiBot had to
depressurise my base. D:
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later
L287[17:21:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
now
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L298[22:08:31] *
Saphire blinks
L299[22:08:33] <Saphire> Uh
L300[22:08:43] <Saphire> Twitch. This is a
bit EXCESSIVE
L301[22:09:01] <Saphire> A fucking
CATEGORY for mods with twitch integration.
L302[22:19:02] <AmandaC> %choose cool
babies or sleep
L303[22:19:02] <MichiBot> AmandaC: cool
babies
L304[23:06:18] *
Saphire cools down AmandaC