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L1[00:49:34] * Saphire flops on Izaya
L2[00:49:58] * Izaya ignites
L3[00:50:12] <Saphire> ...imagine the JOY that I felt upon hearing my family's income and comparing that to average income numbers in my region
L4[00:50:19] <Saphire> And to jobs
L5[00:51:10] * Skye hugs Saphire
L6[01:04:30] <Saphire> ...average wage (in thousands of RUB) is 20
L7[01:04:58] <Saphire> Minimum living cost that is rent and eating (nothing else, just rent, utilities, and eating, and that's the minimal): 25
L8[01:06:09] <Saphire> Vacancies without any experience in my city that aren't obvious scams of "went to some remote place and was never heard of again" or "we need a scapegoat manager for whatever pay": 15 to 25
L9[01:12:51] <Izaya> Oof.
L10[01:13:28] <Izaya> I hate this place but at least living here is cheap compared to the jobs
L11[01:14:02] <Forecaster> I screwed up
L12[01:14:02] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ya8h3gyc
L13[01:14:46] <Izaya> You screwed up 43.2 thousand times.
L14[01:15:38] <Forecaster> no, only once
L15[01:15:54] <Forecaster> unfortunately that once was running a script with messed up queries in it
L16[01:16:13] <Forecaster> which messed up 43 thousand database rows
L17[01:16:26] <Forecaster> which I now manually have to fix one by one
L18[01:16:39] <Izaya> oof.
L19[01:17:02] <Forecaster> after this I'm going to set up periodic backups...
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L21[01:31:17] <ArchBinix> Hello
L22[01:31:23] <Forecaster> %hello
L23[01:31:23] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L24[01:32:09] <ArchBinix> I am having trouble using the midi program with OpenOS. Would this be the correct place to get fast help?
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L30[01:34:44] <Kodos> Fast help in IRC. He's hilarious
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L32[01:35:11] <Forecaster> They also asked to ask.
L33[01:35:17] <oc> Yes, I did.
L34[01:35:21] <oc> On accident.
L35[01:36:28] <oc> Did anyone respond, because I switched to the OpenIRC program.
L36[01:36:41] <Saphire> Nobody yet
L37[01:36:44] <Saphire> %hello
L38[01:36:44] <MichiBot> Saphire: Hello! Welcome to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L39[01:36:59] <Forecaster> no because you haven't actually asked anything yet
L40[01:37:18] <Saphire> Nor explained anything other than vague "midi program"
L41[01:37:23] <oc> So I'm assuming none of you have experience with midi?
L42[01:37:26] <oc> I was about to.
L43[01:37:35] <Saphire> What is the program, where did you get it, what is /not working/ or what you have problem with?
L44[01:37:38] <Saphire> Stuff like this :3
L45[01:37:40] <Forecaster> we aren't psychic
L46[01:37:45] <oc> No shit.
L47[01:37:49] <Kodos> I usually use the Computronics tapes
L48[01:37:54] <Kodos> Haven't messed with Midi much
L49[01:38:00] <oc> Im about to explain, but it'd be pretty useless if you didnt know anything about midi.
L50[01:38:26] <Kodos> I don't know anything about midi. You guys know anything about midi?
L51[01:38:54] <Forecaster> okay well I'm just going to go back to fixing my database then
L52[01:38:55] <Forecaster> have fun
L53[01:39:05] <payonel> oc: gamax92 and vexatos know a lot about midi. i think you'll find more support if you add computronics along side oc
L54[01:39:26] <Kodos> Honestly, if you're using OC and not Computronics, you're doing it wrong anyway, really
L55[01:39:33] <payonel> peelz: i dont know about that bug (blank screen in tablet) were you on mac?
L56[01:39:39] <oc> I am using computertronics.
L57[01:39:41] <payonel> Kodos: :P
L58[01:39:54] <payonel> oc: don't they already have a music player or something?
L59[01:40:01] <peelz> payonel, nope, Windows
L60[01:40:07] <payonel> peelz: dunno
L61[01:40:12] <peelz> hmm weird
L62[01:40:33] <peelz> I'll let you know if it happens again once I get to play with server racks again
L63[01:40:59] <oc> Alright so just to throw it out there. I have the note block connected fine and the file is detected. No matter which midi I run, I always get an "error parsing header"
L64[01:42:01] <Kodos> Just one noteblock?
L65[01:42:08] <oc> Yes.
L66[01:42:25] <Kodos> I always assumed you'd need a noteblock per instrument
L67[01:42:37] <oc> Ah true.
L68[01:42:43] <oc> Ill just hook a bunch and see
L69[01:42:55] <Kodos> Not even sure if it'd fix your error, but in the video I just found he has like 6-8 noteblocks on his setup
L70[01:42:58] <payonel> oc: but if you come back in during german time, vexatos can be quite helpful
L71[01:43:14] <Kodos> He's also fun to harass/bug =D
L72[01:43:20] <payonel> oh absolutely
L73[01:43:38] <payonel> make sure to point out that 1-based arrays are dumb
L74[01:43:40] <oc> Yes, same error. I have seen the 8 blocks before, but I didn't think it'd be a problem.
L75[01:44:04] <Kodos> And make sure you improperly indent your code =D
L76[01:44:29] <Kodos> Do you have Puush, SHareX, or the like?
L77[01:44:32] <Kodos> oc, ^
L78[01:44:48] <oc> I do not, are they libraries and packages?
L79[01:45:03] <Kodos> No, they're just programs for windows that let you upload stuff. I was going to take a look at your midi
L80[01:45:15] <Kodos> Just curious, have you tried playing the midi externally?
L81[01:45:21] <oc> Yes many times.
L82[01:45:36] <oc> and I have a github if you really want a look.
L83[01:46:02] <oc> I needed a test, so its We Are Number One and Still Alive
L84[01:46:40] <oc> Github: https://github.com/adrylain/midifiles
L85[01:47:45] <Kodos> Bah, I don't have a sound font file yet on this new computer
L86[01:48:49] <Kodos> Wonder if it's an error with the midi program
L87[01:49:23] <oc> Perhaps. I don't think my setup is any different from the ones in the videos I saw.
L88[01:52:34] <oc> Thanks anyways.
L89[01:53:17] <Izaya> thanks for the midis
L90[01:54:06] <oc> np
L91[01:54:21] <Izaya> too bad LMMS is so flaky on here :<
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L94[02:04:54] <Kodos> Wonder how well Reika's mods would work with Immersive Railroading
L95[02:05:19] <Kodos> Now that I actually have a computer capable of not choking on ReactorCraft
L96[02:13:08] <ArchBinix> I installed Plan9k and I do not know the command to install oppm with the floppy in. Does anyone know how to do this?
L97[02:15:03] <Izaya> You'll probably just want to copy the floppy's contents to /usr
L98[02:15:10] <payonel> ArchBinix: just curious about plan9k or does it have a feature you wanted?
L99[02:15:21] <Izaya> Could also just use 'install', I think.
L100[02:15:38] <payonel> plan9k doesn't have install...or...it isn't compath with the oppm .install
L101[02:15:48] <payonel> but, cal the oppm .install, it'll show you what it runs
L102[02:15:50] <ArchBinix> Yes, plan9k doesnt have intsall.
L103[02:16:22] <ArchBinix> Call as in rename?
L104[02:18:00] <payonel> "call" ?
L105[02:18:01] <payonel> oh
L106[02:18:04] <payonel> i typo'd
L107[02:18:07] <payonel> weird, i meant cat
L108[02:18:11] <ArchBinix> gotcha
L109[02:18:38] <payonel> ArchBinix: but, why plan9k?
L110[02:18:49] <logan2611> plan9k is a decent os
L111[02:18:56] <payonel> it's a great os!
L112[02:18:56] <payonel> :)
L113[02:19:02] <payonel> i'm just jealous :)
L114[02:19:21] <Izaya> payonel: did I send you a link to my DOS clone?
L115[02:19:30] <ArchBinix> I'm the same guy who is playing with the midi. I saw something about bit32 being screwy with openos, so I thought maybe plan9k would work.
L116[02:19:47] <Izaya> I have a working image now
L117[02:19:50] <payonel> Izaya: yeah, but i haven't run/used it
L118[02:20:04] <Izaya> https://0x0.st/s2qN.lua :D
L119[02:20:04] <payonel> ArchBinix: bit32 has no issue with openos :/
L120[02:20:15] <ArchBinix> Maybe it was an old post.
L121[02:20:22] <payonel> no, not ever
L122[02:20:36] <ArchBinix> Says here is was even missing.
L123[02:20:39] <ArchBinix> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1338
L124[02:20:39] <MichiBot> Title: bit32 is missing under Lua 5.3 | Posted by: Techokami | Posted: Mon Jul 27 18:39:19 CDT 2015 | Status: closed
L125[02:20:41] <payonel> there is the uuid lib, that forgot to include (require) bit32, which is necessary for lua 5.3 (which is now the default)
L126[02:20:51] <payonel> it's not MISSING
L127[02:20:52] <payonel> golly
L128[02:21:13] <payonel> also, for crying out loud, that was 3 years ago
L129[02:21:13] <ArchBinix> Welp
L130[02:21:23] <ArchBinix> It was worth the try
L131[02:21:26] <ArchBinix> t b h
L132[02:21:44] <Forecaster> %loot
L133[02:21:44] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Shiny Izaya's neatloaf! (10%)
L134[02:21:53] <payonel> ArchBinix: i get defensive about openos :)
L135[02:21:55] <payonel> %loot
L136[02:21:55] <MichiBot> payonel: You get a loot box! It contains a turnip.
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L138[02:22:30] * Izaya places payonel's turnip on their head
L139[02:22:35] <ArchBinix> I don't see the reason in Plan9k. Is it just an alternative?
L140[02:22:42] <ArchBinix> for*
L141[02:23:11] <Izaya> Same reason you have a million linux distros - someone wanted something different.
L142[02:23:42] <payonel> yeah, and magik is a very talented developer. he did great work with it
L143[02:23:57] <ArchBinix> I mean ig, but its a minecraft mod lmao.
L144[02:23:59] <Forecaster> "different" psh
L145[02:24:09] <ArchBinix> Just seems silly.
L146[02:24:17] <Forecaster> they're an embarrassment to the borg collective
L147[02:24:23] <Izaya> Aren't computers in Minecraft silly?
L148[02:24:26] <payonel> ArchBinix: i think it also demonstrates that you can do stuff like that with oc
L149[02:24:39] <ArchBinix> Absolutely.
L150[02:25:01] * Izaya has done several alternative OSes also, mostly to play with different ideas
L151[02:25:36] <ArchBinix> To be frank, I don't know why I've spent so much time on this. I could be writing real OSes and playing with vintage hardware.
L152[02:25:47] <ArchBinix> But I'm messing with virtual ones in minecraft..
L153[02:25:49] <Forecaster> but you are
L154[02:25:56] <Forecaster> it's just simulated vintage hardware
L155[02:26:00] <Izaya> Neither are particularly useful now.
L156[02:26:25] <ArchBinix> Well, Vinatage computing is especially good for learning low level hardware.
L157[02:26:31] * Izaya nods
L158[02:26:51] <ArchBinix> Obviously I can't hook my tms9900 to some leds and a sound unit in OC.
L159[02:27:11] <Izaya> You can your generic 6502 platform though.
L160[02:27:23] <ArchBinix> Ok
L161[02:27:52] <Izaya> And besides, you can hook your minecraft computer up to some lights and noteblocks
L162[02:28:11] <ArchBinix> Ehhhhh.
L163[02:28:12] <Forecaster> a lightboard :D
L164[02:28:37] <Izaya> Sure, you aren't doing stuff with MMIO or writing asm, but \o/
L165[02:28:52] <ArchBinix> Idk I need a life. I need to not waste my entire summer on this. Not that you guys care or anything lol.
L166[02:29:08] <Forecaster> psh, life
L167[02:29:14] <Forecaster> having a life is overrated
L168[02:30:11] <payonel> ArchBinix: ... i wanted to make the openos shell input parsing not require spaces around pipes, "|"
L169[02:30:26] <payonel> 3 years later, i'm still spending "my entire summer" on this
L170[02:30:49] <ArchBinix> N 0 P 3
L171[02:30:54] <Forecaster> "Time is an illusion" -- that guy from Avatar TLAB
L172[02:31:06] <ArchBinix> Confirmed whirlpool of time suckingness.
L173[02:31:11] <ArchBinix> I must leave while I still can.
L174[02:31:17] <ArchBinix> Skrrt.
L175[02:31:20] <Forecaster> there is no escape
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L177[02:35:20] <Forecaster> yay http://tinyurl.com/y9ngcw43
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L180[02:37:26] <Forecaster> that's 277 rows processed in... 1 hour and 21 minutes
L181[02:40:58] <Forecaster> I think that's about 3.5 entries per minute
L182[02:41:05] <Forecaster> average
L183[02:41:23] <Izaya> only 42 000 to go
L184[02:41:48] <Forecaster> what happened to the last 1k?
L185[02:42:08] <Izaya> dunno
L186[02:42:10] <Izaya> rounded away?
L187[02:42:26] <Forecaster> according to my calculations processing the remaining 43k will take 12 285 minutes
L188[02:42:58] <Forecaster> or 2 days and 9 hours
L189[02:43:03] <Forecaster> ._.
L190[02:43:43] <Forecaster> why did I do this
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L193[04:05:12] <Kodos> Fore, did you try Ctrl+Z?
L194[04:05:14] <Kodos> ?
L195[04:07:19] <Forecaster> unfortunately it didn't work
L196[04:07:27] <Marcel> @joaoadao No, this reactor generates +600 EU - You have to use Mox Cells instead of Uranium Cells
L197[04:08:10] <Marcel> The Reactor then is heating up an most components will stay failsafe at 48% while it generates EU
L198[04:10:01] <Kodos> I'd have to redo it on the sim again, but I had an absurdly high power IC2 reactor that was stable :3
L199[04:10:39] <Marcel> this little guy is only for backup energy ^^ - I run a liquid reactor ^^
L200[04:11:02] <Marcel> got it to quite a bit over 1300 HU/s
L201[04:12:50] <Marcel> only problem is, that there are no longer any breeder reactors possible since those parts are removed in IC2 - and I have currently no setup for any kind of reactor, which depleats as fast as possible so that I can then craft plutonium
L202[04:13:32] <Kodos> I just use a 7 Quad Cell setup for plutonium
L203[04:14:06] <Kodos> 168M EU or 26.8M Hu output, too
L204[04:14:38] <Kodos> In fact you've probably got a setup close to mine for your 1300+ heat
L205[04:14:46] <Marcel> maybe you can rebuild it in the planner jar which is the only thing useable, since the planner on the web isn't reachable anymore?
L206[04:15:06] <Marcel> My setup is one out from the IC2 board
L207[04:15:18] <Kodos> If you've got Mauvecloud's planner, just throw `030C0D140D0D0C0D15150C0D0D0C0D0D030D150D030D0D030D0D0C0C0D0D0C0D0D0C0D150D030D0D030D0D030D150D0C150D0C150D0C` into it
L208[04:15:28] <Marcel> nice, thanks ?
L209[04:15:55] <Kodos> For straight up power, I have two setups I like to use, one for 4 MFSUs, one for 5
L210[04:16:24] <Kodos> Really miss the modular sized EU storage blocks. Forget what they're called
L211[04:16:32] <Marcel> Well, dn now back to OC ^^ - I want to create a programm to monitor my reactors where on the screen the interior is visable
L212[04:16:54] <Kodos> Guessing you want to colorize the durability of each piece
L213[04:16:55] <Marcel> modulare sized EU storage blocks? never heared of it, even in gregtech not seen
L214[04:17:04] <Marcel> yes, including coloring
L215[04:17:05] <peelz> Ooh. Reactor talk. Yay.
L216[04:17:36] <Kodos> Best bet for that would be to just break down your screen's resolution into a grid
L217[04:17:39] <Kodos> And gpu.fill
L218[04:17:57] <Kodos> I'm not good with GUI stuff, I just use OpenPrinter to print my reactor reports ?
L219[04:18:21] <Marcel> this sound like a printer which prints you a nice paper sheet ?
L220[04:18:27] <Kodos> https://pastebin.com/rjFduUMV
L221[04:18:36] <Kodos> Back in a bit, cooking the wife some dinner
L222[04:19:36] <Marcel> And I am out to spend some blood - catch u later ?
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L224[04:36:42] <Forecaster> I remember the modular EU storage
L225[04:36:48] <Forecaster> it's really old
L226[04:36:57] <Forecaster> from 1.7 or before
L227[04:38:50] <Kodos> It was like.. IDSU or something?
L228[04:38:55] <Kodos> %g IDSU IndustrialCraft
L229[04:38:56] <MichiBot> Kodos: https://wiki.industrial-craft.net/index.php?title=IndustrialCraft-Addons:GregTech-Addon - *IndustrialCraft-Addons:GregTech-Addon - Industrial-Craft-Wiki*: "IDSU. Interdimensional Storageunit Enderchest + 1-Billion-EU-Energystorage = This Device. That's equal to 250,000 batboxes! The IDSU ..."
L230[04:39:33] <Kodos> LESU is what I was thinking of
L231[04:42:52] <Izaya> I remember when you needed separate mods to convert from IC2 to BC and back
L232[04:43:42] <Izaya> s/2//
L233[04:43:42] <MichiBot> <Izaya> I remember when you needed separate mods to convert from IC to BC and back
L234[04:44:07] <peelz> Power Converters?
L235[04:44:16] <peelz> I still use that :c
L236[04:44:34] <peelz> For ic2steam<->steam and EU<->RF conversion
L237[04:45:47] <Izaya> I don't use BC or IC2 any more tbh
L238[04:45:55] <peelz> I don't use BC anymore
L239[04:46:01] <peelz> for a long time
L240[04:46:05] <peelz> but I still use IC2
L241[04:46:40] <peelz> I'm thinking about integrating Immersive Engineering in my pack though
L242[04:49:20] <Marcel> IC2 is nice ... it lacks only compatibality with other mods out there
L243[04:49:39] <Marcel> but combined with gregtech it makes fun :)
L244[04:54:16] <Kodos> The only time I'll/I'd play with GT was in 1.4.7 back when we had the good AE and RP2
L245[05:00:44] <Marcel> never played 1.4/1.6
L246[05:08:45] <Forecaster> bleh power converters
L247[05:37:09] <Saphire> Mimiru: hey hey
L248[05:37:17] <Saphire> Did you yet do
L249[05:37:27] <Saphire> GDPR ping with the bot?
L250[05:52:35] <Forecaster> what?
L251[06:00:05] <Saphire> WE HAVE UPDATED OUT PRIVACY POLICY
L252[06:00:09] <Saphire> *our
L253[06:00:10] <Saphire> :V
L254[06:01:19] <Forecaster> pretty sure MichiBot doesn't care about GDPR
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L256[06:43:01] * AmandaC looks around for a willing participant in her experiment, since her normal unwillint participant seems to have escaped again
L257[06:43:23] <Forecaster> did you forget to tighten the chains?
L258[06:44:02] <AmandaC> She started getting into being chained up, so I got creeped out and just locked her in the computer room instead
L259[06:48:06] <Forecaster> so what's the experiment? how deadly is it?
L260[06:48:30] <AmandaC> I steal a bit of your soul every time I get pettings!
L261[06:58:46] <Kodos> Okay, Industrial Wires is probably my new favorite mod
L262[06:59:15] <Forecaster> never heard of
L263[06:59:25] <Kodos> It's an IC2/IE addon
L264[06:59:33] <Kodos> LEts you make custom control panels with all sorts of doohickeys
L265[06:59:51] <Kodos> From Lock switches to Covered Toggles, and even has 7 Seg displays and meters
L266[06:59:55] <Forecaster> oh, interesting
L267[07:00:08] <Forecaster> I'll have to try this out
L268[07:02:01] <Forecaster> oh
L269[07:02:02] <Forecaster> nevermind
L270[07:02:06] <Forecaster> it requires IE
L271[07:02:20] <Kodos> Yeah, that's my only qualm with it
L272[07:02:30] <Kodos> But it's minor, since I don't mind IE with IP/IT
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L274[07:03:21] <Kodos> Sadly, Project Blue never made it out of 1.7
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L279[07:46:58] <Wuerfel_21> Fuck, my chairs backrest has broken off entirely, mmh
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L281[07:48:51] <Wuerfel_21> An
L282[07:49:22] <Wuerfel_21> And then my usb DAC bluescreened my laptop http://tinyurl.com/ycesfv7o
L283[07:50:28] <Temia> Welp
L284[07:52:18] <Temia> Inari, Michi, halp D: I was struck by inspiration and went to FFXIV's character creator, and the result is super-cute D:
L285[07:52:21] <Temia> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/334826948138369024/449683700934770708/ffxiv_05252018_172041.png
L286[07:52:40] <Temia> What do I do? I already have too many characters ;_;
L287[07:54:31] <Temia> Oh, is Inari not on right now? Oh well
L288[08:03:16] <Forecaster> that's pretty cute
L289[08:03:30] <Forecaster> you need to have a beauty contest between your characters
L290[08:03:38] <Forecaster> one gets voted out and the new one brought in
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L292[08:15:59] <MalkContent> i uh... that's quite the neck
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L294[08:16:54] <MalkContent> is that standard for the characters?
L295[08:17:01] <Temia> Yeah.
L296[08:17:14] <Temia> The elezen have it worse.
L297[08:18:12] <Temia> https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/a/a7/Elezen_CG.png
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L299[08:21:06] <Temia> Enough so that their nickname is giraffes, or the in-game equivalent dhalmels
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L301[08:31:34] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1527310017053.jpg
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L303[08:33:53] <Wuerfel_21> lol
L304[08:34:08] <MalkContent> dang
L305[08:34:15] <Marcel> not lol, that is what you can call evolution
L306[08:34:24] <Wuerfel_21> a white gba sp might be even smaller
L307[08:34:52] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1527316640351.jpg
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L309[08:43:01] <Temia> They don't make thinkpads like they used to :<
L310[09:23:28] <Temia> Inari!
L311[09:23:43] <Temia> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/334826948138369024/449683700934770708/ffxiv_05252018_172041.png I was struck by inspiration and went to FFXIV's character creator, and the result is super-cute D: what do
L312[09:33:00] <Inari> Well if thats a look you like, amke a cahr out of it
L313[09:33:50] <Inari> https://puu.sh/AtkJj/dc3778c068.png
L314[09:47:18] <Temia> But I already have so many characters ;_;
L315[09:47:46] <Temia> Do you not think she's cute though? :<
L316[09:48:13] <Izaya> Something tells me there's no LooksMenu and you can't save it?
L317[09:48:56] <Temia> I can save the appearance data (and have) but elaborate on what you mean by LooksMenu?
L318[09:49:34] <Izaya> oh it's just that that's a mod for ... one of the bethesda games I play, either Skyrim or FO4, I forget - and it lets you save presets and such
L319[09:49:37] <Izaya> (and import them)
L320[09:49:54] <Temia> Ahh
L321[09:50:19] <Temia> Nah, FFXIV has a built-in way to save character appearance data in the character creator (or even for saving the appearance of existing characters)
L322[09:50:29] <Izaya> shiny
L323[09:50:45] <Izaya> with ESO there was no way to save appearances and the alternative was using a character slot :|
L324[09:50:46] <Temia> I *think* you can load appearance data if you use a fantasia to change a character's appearance, but those cost $$
L325[09:51:20] <Temia> And also it means replacing one of my other cute characters D:
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L327[10:02:29] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L328[10:02:29] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with shiny rod. 9 health gained!
L329[10:02:34] <Inari> Temia: Not really, no :p
L330[10:02:53] * AmandaC gets distracted by the shiny rod, doesn't get to enjoy the pettings
L331[10:02:54] <Inari> The face looks too cloe to anthromorph I guess
L332[10:03:15] <Temia> But... it isn't?
L333[10:03:29] <Temia> She's got a normal humanoid face.
L334[10:03:54] <Inari> Well the cheecksl ook weridly rounded, the eyes kinda too big, the mouth too high up
L335[10:04:25] <Temia> I never thought you'd take issue with big eyes but OK <.<
L336[10:06:37] <AmandaC> She looks like the plucky young new-to-the-field character of some kind of slice-of-life job anime
L337[10:06:49] <Temia> :D
L338[10:08:25] <Wuerfel_21> Does anyone here got a C# compiler set up and is willing to compile me some stuff from github?
L339[10:08:34] <Izaya> fun fact
L340[10:08:42] <Izaya> if you have .NET installed, you have a C# compiler installed
L341[10:08:51] <Inari> Temia: Usually not. I just don't like the general look an am trying to look fro reasons why :D
L342[10:08:56] <Izaya> look in C:\Windows for an executable called csc, IIRC
L343[10:09:01] <Wuerfel_21> lol
L344[10:09:38] <Inari> AmandaC's descripiton doesn't sound bad and I never liked that kinda character. So that may be it
L345[10:09:54] * Saphire hums?
L346[10:10:36] <Inari> The skin colour doesn't help either I guess. Darker skinned characters need other features than lighter skinned ot be cute imo.
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L348[10:10:45] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L349[10:11:35] * Temia quirks an eyebrow
L350[10:11:39] <Temia> Elaborate, please.
L351[10:11:44] <Inari> Hm?
L352[10:12:13] * Saphire curls up, nestling somewhere hidden.
L353[10:12:18] <Temia> What other features do you speak of?
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L355[10:12:30] <Inari> Not sure, just generally a different style of look
L356[10:12:55] <Wuerfel_21> I do have a csc.exe somewhere, but it complains about a missing cscomp.dll
L357[10:13:05] <Izaya> good start
L358[10:13:42] <Temia> I... see.
L359[10:14:46] <Inari> Brown-skinned chars are a little rare in anime and such :p So I haven't seen many I like yet to make out which features work
L360[10:14:56] <Inari> shes' fairly cute http://tinyurl.com/ybf232gz
L361[10:15:13] <Saphire> Hmm?
L362[10:15:27] <Saphire> Who's that?
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L364[10:16:05] <Inari> Not sure if she has a name
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L366[10:17:39] <Saphire> Ah
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L368[10:17:45] <Saphire> Okay
L369[10:18:12] * Saphire curls up and goes away now that she has nothing to contribute to here.
L370[10:18:26] <Inari> Today seems hentai spam day on twitter
L371[10:19:56] <Wuerfel_21> And now i get lots of errors about missing stuff. I think im missing some kind of system library
L372[10:20:10] <Inari> Temia seems unconvinced :P
L373[10:20:13] <AmandaC> %choose kitnap or don't
L374[10:20:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: kitnap
L375[10:20:17] <AmandaC> Hrm.
L376[10:20:19] <AmandaC> Nah
L377[10:20:20] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L378[10:20:20] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with Inari's RAM. 3 health gained!, Inari's RAM angered a witch and was turned into a toad.
L379[10:20:20] <Izaya> try another version of .NET
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L381[10:20:24] <Izaya> you should have all of them installed
L382[10:20:27] <Izaya> it's a feature
L383[10:21:07] <Wuerfel_21> im just copying random files from winsxs at this point
L384[10:21:30] <Izaya> from?
L385[10:21:35] <Izaya> run it from the dir
L386[10:21:55] <Wuerfel_21> but then it won't find it's dlls
L387[10:22:00] <Wuerfel_21> but then it won't find its dlls [Edited]
L388[10:22:01] <joaoadao> @Marcel oh ok
L389[10:23:09] <Wuerfel_21> im getting stuff like this: `Form1.cs(2,14): error CS0234: The type or namespace name 'Media' does not exist in the namespace 'System' (are you missing an assembly reference?)`
L390[10:23:34] <Izaya> this stuff worked when I used it to compile something in C#
L391[10:23:37] <Izaya> it was very uncomplicated
L392[10:23:40] <Izaya> one source file
L393[10:23:42] <Izaya> basically a keygen
L394[10:26:30] <AmandaC> ( BEcause it was a keygen )
L395[10:26:31] * AmandaC hides
L396[10:26:44] <Izaya> I mean
L397[10:26:46] <Izaya> yes
L398[10:26:48] <Izaya> it was a keygen
L399[10:27:05] <AmandaC> %choose listen to live show recording or normal episode
L400[10:27:05] <MichiBot> AmandaC: listen to live show recording
L401[10:27:18] <Izaya> but actually performing the crack involved providing your own HTTP server
L402[10:32:34] <Wuerfel_21> this is what i need to compile, btw: https://github.com/ThatOneStruggle/multi-channeller
L403[10:35:38] <Mimiru> I'm pretty sure I installed the c# stuff for vs2017.. I'll see if I can compile it
L404[10:37:14] <Mimiru> @Wuerfel_21 https://drive.pc-logix.com/index.php/s/5C9sc27degisY98
L405[10:40:16] <Wuerfel_21> can't get it to work, but thanks anyways
L406[10:40:40] <Mimiru> Oh?
L407[10:41:07] <Wuerfel_21> complains it can't find decodedWAV.wav, there appears to be some kind of bug
L408[10:41:08] <Mimiru> I don't have any BRSTMs to load.. I just made sure it launched lol
L409[10:41:55] <Temia> Inari
L410[10:42:03] <Temia> I'm unconvinced, yes, because that's a light tan.
L411[10:42:39] <Inari> My pic or yours?
L412[10:42:42] <Temia> Yours.
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L414[10:44:09] <Inari> Yeah. As said, you don't see tanned chars too often in anime. And I think it's harder to make the composition look cute with darker colours
L415[10:45:08] <Temia> ...I'm going for a coffee break
L416[10:45:18] <Inari> Haha
L417[10:45:57] <AmandaC> %bap Inari
L418[10:45:57] * MichiBot baps Inari with defeat
L419[10:46:20] <ben_mkiv> when you read chairs instead of chars and think wtf...
L420[10:46:33] <Inari> AmandaC: don't bap me D:
L421[10:47:13] <Inari> That said, een with a lighter tan that character would still look odd to me :P
L422[10:47:59] <ben_mkiv> did you just review temias child?
L423[10:48:33] <Inari> child?
L424[10:48:45] <ben_mkiv> virtual offspring xD
L425[10:49:27] <ben_mkiv> %loot
L426[10:49:27] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic Can i add shit, too! (25%)
L427[10:49:46] <ben_mkiv> mkay
L428[10:49:59] <AmandaC> %inv del Can i add shit, too
L429[10:50:00] <MichiBot> AmandaC: No such item
L430[10:50:04] <AmandaC> %inv del Can i add shit, too!
L431[10:51:48] <AmandaC> %inv del Can i add shit, too!
L432[10:51:48] <MichiBot> AmandaC: No such item
L433[10:51:52] <AmandaC> %inv list
L434[10:51:52] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L435[10:52:05] <AmandaC> ... I guess someone else removed it?
L436[10:52:21] <Mimiru> does it announce it successfully removed it?
L437[10:52:33] <Inari> AmandaC: I believe %loot removes it
L438[10:52:34] <ben_mkiv> i think your 2nd try did succed
L439[10:52:35] <ben_mkiv> +e
L440[10:52:36] <AmandaC> The second try was rate-limited
L441[10:52:42] <ben_mkiv> oh
L442[10:52:54] <AmandaC> 11:50:04 <MichiBot> I cannot execute this command right now. Wait 25 seconds.
L443[10:53:06] <Inari> That was half of the purpose of loot afteralll
L444[10:53:10] <Inari> To clean up some items
L445[10:53:22] <Mimiru> Oh, right.. it was a loot box
L446[10:53:26] <Mimiru> I wasn't paying attention
L447[10:53:37] <AmandaC> I thought removal wasn't implemented yet
L448[10:54:11] <Temia> %inv count
L449[10:54:11] <MichiBot> The inventory contains 122 items.
L450[10:54:14] <Temia> %loot
L451[10:54:14] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a loot box! It contains a dragon scale.
L452[10:54:19] <Temia> \o/
L453[10:54:42] <Mimiru> https://github.com/PC-Logix/LanteaBot/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/lc/irc/hooks/LootBox.java#L61
L454[10:54:45] <Mimiru> seems it is.
L455[10:54:51] <Mimiru> %inv count
L456[10:54:51] <MichiBot> The inventory contains 122 items.
L457[10:54:59] <Inari> cursed, huh
L458[10:55:00] <Inari> %loot
L459[10:55:00] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains a power adapter incompatible with everything.
L460[10:55:45] <AmandaC> INteesting alert from Amazon
L461[10:55:57] <AmandaC> "Track your package on a map, it's currently 8 stop away!"
L462[11:04:28] <Skye> AmandaC, they've been doing that for me tooo
L463[11:05:20] <AmandaC> I'm half expecting the number to be down to like 3, and they go across the fucking town
L464[11:23:55] <Wuerfel_21> TFW windows won't let your USB drive go.
L465[11:35:10] <AmandaC> did you accidentally enable the Windows Flash Killer? ( "Enhance my PC's preformance with this device" )
L466[11:36:22] <Wuerfel_21> nah, it's a hard drive... PID 4 wouldn't release it. As write-ahead is somehow disbled, i just yanked it out.
L467[11:57:03] <Aivech> %inv list
L468[11:57:03] <MichiBot> Aivech: Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L469[12:15:50] <Temia> Has it really been a year? jeez.
L470[12:16:42] <Temia> You can tell which ones are mine because they're mostly FFXIV references orz
L471[12:16:47] <Temia> %loot
L472[12:16:47] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .jpg.
L473[12:32:25] <AmandaC> "a nuclear warhead" Oh, THATS where it went! Mean Inari, hiding my nukes.
L474[12:38:11] <Wuerfel_21> someone at nintendo misspelled koopa in their code, apparently: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/191737600304742400/449988529142104064/unknown.png
L475[12:38:41] <AmandaC> or that's how it's spelled in japanese romanisation
L476[12:39:01] <Wuerfel_21> but all the other ones are in english...
L477[12:39:14] <Wuerfel_21> with 2 exceptions
L478[12:39:41] <Wuerfel_21> and "STRM_N_KOOPA_N.brstm" is spelled correctly
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L480[13:36:01] <AmandaC> %choose live dangerously or don't
L481[13:36:01] <MichiBot> AmandaC: don't
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L484[13:41:00] <OmegaRogue> hi
L485[13:41:26] <AmandaC> ohai
L486[13:42:15] <OmegaRogue> this is the first time ive ever used an irc
L487[13:42:32] <OmegaRogue> im connected using the OC program in Minecraft
L488[13:43:28] <ECS> heheeh: https://i.imgur.com/8Ge7i8v.png
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L494[14:02:06] <Wuerfel_21> When have i lost my life.... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/191737600304742400/450009731554082836/unknown.png
L495[14:02:23] <Wuerfel_21> When have i lost my life.... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/191737600304742400/450009731554082836/unknown.png [Edited]
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L497[14:39:42] <AmandaC> %choose DiF now or later
L498[14:39:42] <MichiBot> AmandaC: DiF now
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L501[14:57:04] <Inari> AmandaC: I keep thinking "Dilf" when reading that :P
L502[14:57:42] <AmandaC> Dilf?
L503[14:57:53] <Inari> Like milf, but for men
L504[14:58:00] <AmandaC> ah
L505[14:58:11] <Inari> Next: "milf?" XD
L506[15:04:54] <AmandaC> :P
L507[15:06:28] <AmandaC> %choose see about food or Amanchu!
L508[15:06:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Amanchu!
L509[15:07:00] <Inari> %inv add Dorothy's pricelist
L510[15:07:00] * MichiBot summons 'Dorothy's pricelist' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L511[15:07:34] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L512[15:07:34] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with an oil tanker. 5 health gained!
L513[15:08:32] * AmandaC purrs softly
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L518[15:36:04] <Inari> %inv add a pawprint stamp
L519[15:36:04] * MichiBot summons 'a pawprint stamp' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L520[15:39:57] <AmandaC> Inari: and who exactly is that stamp modled after!? You better not be forging my pawtograph
L521[15:46:30] <Inari> :3
L522[15:46:43] <Inari> How else would I get your signage~
L523[15:46:49] <Inari> Gotta take advantage of you sleeping
L524[15:48:56] <Wuerfel_21> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/298914681182224385/450006880329400320/FB_IMG_1527357642428.png
L525[15:49:24] <Inari> That looks like it took a lot of effort
L526[15:49:51] <Wuerfel_21> i guess so, though i don't have that game
L527[15:54:01] <AmandaC> Inari: I guess it's only fair since I've been experimenting with your genome while you sleep
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L530[16:32:51] <Forecaster> %loot
L531[16:32:51] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic Inari's toybox! (25%)
L532[16:32:58] <Forecaster> ohmy
L533[16:35:04] <AmandaC> %makemagic Inari's toybox
L534[16:35:04] <MichiBot> Seems I'm out of mana...
L535[16:37:24] <Larethian> Hi. I have a question regarding Chisel&Bits and OC-Cables. According to #1634 OC is MCMultiPart-compatible. C&B also says it's MCMultiPart-compatible. But I cannot use C&B with OC-Cables, they simply won't interact.
L536[16:37:24] <Larethian> Is there any way to make them work with each other?
L537[16:39:44] <AmandaC> What version of mc?
L538[16:41:24] <Keridos> can somebody why my lua file here does not like line 65 in settings.lua? https://gist.github.com/Keridos/96330b8d2ea785a128edf444dc5e3a5c
L539[16:42:27] <AmandaC> Larethian: what version of mc? Last I heard it wasn't added to the 1.12 branch again
L540[16:42:44] <Larethian> MC 1.12.2, MultiPart 2.5.1, C&B 14.16, OC 1.7.2.67
L541[16:43:15] <Forecaster> @Keridos I don't think you can do `{something.something = 1}`
L542[16:43:27] <AmandaC> Then yeah, it's not added back in 1.12 yet, Larethian
L543[16:43:36] <Forecaster> you may have to do {[something.something] = 1}
L544[16:43:38] <Forecaster> I think
L545[16:43:39] <Keridos> how would I do that then?
L546[16:43:50] <Keridos> wow
L547[16:43:54] <Keridos> that is not nice
L548[16:44:01] <SF-MC> I think you have to quote the key if it's supposed to be a string?
L549[16:44:07] <Forecaster> otherwise it doesn't see the value as the key
L550[16:45:05] <Forecaster> %lua local res = { value1 = 1, value2 = 2} local pie = { res.value1 = 1 }
L551[16:45:05] <MichiBot> main:1: '}' expected near '='
L552[16:45:30] <Forecaster> %lua local res = { value1 = 1, value2 = 2} local pie = { [res.value1] = 1 }
L553[16:45:39] <Forecaster> uh
L554[16:45:55] <AmandaC> You don't return anything
L555[16:46:00] <Forecaster> %lua local res = { value1 = 1, value2 = 2} local pie = { [res.value1] = 1 } print(pie[res.value1]
L556[16:46:00] <MichiBot> main:1: ')' expected near <eof>
L557[16:46:07] <Forecaster> %lua local res = { value1 = 1, value2 = 2} local pie = { [res.value1] = 1 } print(pie[res.value1])
L558[16:46:07] <MichiBot> 1
L559[16:46:09] <Forecaster> dammit
L560[16:46:10] <Forecaster> there
L561[16:46:20] <Forecaster> @Keridos that stuff
L562[16:46:21] <SF-MC> oh derp
L563[16:46:27] <SF-MC> It's not supposed to be a string key
L564[16:46:32] <SF-MC> So what I said does not apply
L565[16:47:08] <Forecaster> yeah no, it's getting the key from a table value
L566[16:47:19] <SF-MC> Pretend I'm smart
L567[16:47:40] <Forecaster> live'n'learn
L568[16:48:32] <Keridos> ill do it smarter
L569[16:49:07] <Keridos> Settings.recipes = { entry1 = {blabla}, entry2 = {blabla2}. etc.}
L570[16:49:17] <Keridos> using atom so I can beautify that
L571[16:50:39] <Larethian> <AmandaC> That's disappointing, now I need to restructure half my rooms... Are you aware if there is there a ticket already? My search didn't turn one up. Otherwise I add it as request.
L572[16:51:04] <AmandaC> Not sure if there's already an issue for it
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L576[17:01:20] <Keridos> how can I empty the computers library cache?
L577[17:01:33] <Mimiru> rebooting is the easiest
L578[17:02:27] <Keridos> it still does not like this https://gist.github.com/Keridos/96330b8d2ea785a128edf444dc5e3a5c#file-settings-lua-L64
L579[17:02:34] <Mimiru> theres also something like package.loaded.lib=nil or something
L580[17:02:47] <Mimiru> I don't remember that actual syntax
L581[17:03:06] <Forecaster> you're still using a reference to a different table as keys
L582[17:03:09] <Forecaster> without []
L583[17:03:12] <Forecaster> you can't do that
L584[17:03:27] <Keridos> ah that is what you mean
L585[17:03:34] <Keridos> I wanted to have a table with value and key
L586[17:04:06] <Keridos> so [] around it=
L587[17:04:07] <Keridos> ?
L588[17:04:19] <Forecaster> you have to do `rwater = {name = "Water", resources = {[res.manasteel] = 1, [res.manapowder] = 1, [res.fishingrod] = 1, [res.sugarcane] = 1, [res.bonemeal] = 1}},`
L589[17:04:27] <Keridos> ah ok
L590[17:15:48] <AmandaC> %lua return _VERSION
L591[17:15:48] <MichiBot> MichiLua 9001.4
L592[17:15:54] <AmandaC> :D
L593[17:16:01] <Mimiru> o_O
L594[17:18:21] <AmandaC> Mimiru: PM
L595[17:19:38] <AmandaC> %give Inari random
L596[17:19:38] * MichiBot gives Inari AmandaC's pie from her inventory
L597[17:19:47] <AmandaC> ... how fitting
L598[17:20:25] * AmandaC takes a piece of the pie for herself as well
L599[17:27:59] <payonel> LUA
L600[17:27:59] <MichiBot> It's Lua, not LUA. Name not an acronym.
L601[17:29:28] <AmandaC> payonel: you should continue whatever magic the Lua repl does for implied `return` to michibot
L602[17:29:36] <AmandaC> Contribute*
L603[17:30:01] <payonel> i personally don't like that 'feature'
L604[17:30:09] <AmandaC> Ah
L605[17:30:30] <payonel> some of my api in openos returns handles, for convenience
L606[17:30:36] <payonel> but then that makes using those methods "messy"
L607[17:30:58] <payonel> does that make sense?
L608[17:31:11] <AmandaC> Yeah
L609[17:31:12] <Wuerfel_21> `=foo()` is a good alternative
L610[17:31:12] <payonel> like, io.write("test")
L611[17:31:37] <payonel> suddenly serialized the entire tty stream object used to write to stdout
L612[17:32:02] <Keridos> package.loaded["/home/settings.lua"] = nil
L613[17:32:14] <payonel> keridos?
L614[17:32:18] <Keridos> shouldnt that unload /home/settings.lua from the cache?
L615[17:32:26] <Keridos> yeah?
L616[17:32:27] <payonel> yes, but why is settings required?
L617[17:32:33] <AmandaC> Take a page from python, add a __repl pseudo-metamethoh
L618[17:32:40] <Keridos> it is the library containing the settings for a program of mine
L619[17:32:44] <payonel> typically configs are loaded transiently
L620[17:33:10] <Keridos> yeah but this works fairly well for me
L621[17:33:27] <SF-MC> "If it works, but it's stupid..."
L622[17:33:36] <SF-MC> "it's still stupid; you're just lucky"
L623[17:33:45] <AmandaC> Er, yeah, you don't need require for that, loadfile will do
L624[17:33:45] <SF-MC> aka pls do it correctly
L625[17:33:48] <payonel> btw, i'm done with "version 1" of the new edit
L626[17:34:15] <payonel> keridos, if it works for you, i'm happy :)
L627[17:34:39] <payonel> my recommendation would be to use a load(settings_file, nil, env) pattern
L628[17:35:46] <Keridos> how would that interact with the settings lua stuff?
L629[17:35:58] <SF-MC> It would load it?
L630[17:36:09] <payonel> keridos, let env be a table
L631[17:36:35] <payonel> then when you exec the function returned by load, "globals" in your settings file are written to your env
L632[17:36:48] <payonel> thus: pcall(load(settings, nil, env))
L633[17:37:02] <payonel> if settings has: FOOBAR=1
L634[17:37:05] <payonel> then env.FOOBAR is 1
L635[17:37:16] <Keridos> ah ok
L636[17:38:31] <Keridos> So if I do Settings = {} and then pcall(load(settings, nil, Settings)), all my globals from settings would be in Settings.varname?
L637[17:38:40] <payonel> yes
L638[17:39:16] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L639[17:39:16] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a putit. 5 health gained!
L640[17:39:41] <AmandaC> Putit?
L641[17:40:43] <Keridos> payonel: how would I load from a file?
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L643[17:40:59] <payonel> keridos: i'm not sure what you mean
L644[17:41:17] <payonel> e.g. pcall(load("/home/settings.lua", nil, env)) is all you need
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L646[17:44:14] <Keridos> hm
L647[17:44:27] <Keridos> weird, Settings.recipes seems to be a nil vaalue for me
L648[17:44:55] <AmandaC> What does settings.lua look like?
L649[17:45:27] <Keridos> https://gist.github.com/Keridos/96330b8d2ea785a128edf444dc5e3a5c#file-settings-lua
L650[17:46:43] <AmandaC> You'll need to set Settings.require for that to work
L651[17:46:59] <AmandaC> Or better yet, settings.sides, other thing
L652[17:47:58] <Keridos> well, payonel said that all my global variables should be in there?
L653[17:48:09] <JayCalvin> Hi Does anyone know how to do this
L654[17:48:10] <JayCalvin> https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/683-3d-printing-with-schematics/
L655[17:48:15] <payonel> keridos yes, but if your settings file tries to execute code, it needs some help
L656[17:48:26] <Keridos> ah
L657[17:48:39] <Keridos> so require is needed?
L658[17:48:45] <payonel> Keridos: yeah, so
L659[17:49:14] <payonel> local env = setmetatable({}, { require = require }) pcall(load("settings.lua", nil, env))
L660[17:49:20] <payonel> derp
L661[17:49:24] <payonel> i meant to change that line
L662[17:49:44] <AmandaC> %choose love dangerously or really, don't
L663[17:49:44] <MichiBot> AmandaC: really, don't
L664[17:49:49] <AmandaC> :(
L665[17:49:59] <payonel> local env = setmetatable({}, { __index = _G }) pcall(load("settings.lua", nil, env))
L666[17:50:09] <payonel> that would work, but you can also send in just what you need
L667[17:50:31] <payonel> local env = setmetatable({}, { __index = { require = require }}) pcall(load("settings.lua", nil, env))
L668[17:50:33] <Keridos> well the settings prepares the components and recipes aka, number of items and their database entry and servers them
L669[17:50:34] <payonel> that should work, too
L670[17:50:47] <AmandaC> Also the pcall will return false, error of the load fails
L671[17:50:54] <payonel> ^
L672[17:53:08] <Keridos> pcall gives false attempt to calla nil value
L673[17:54:17] <Keridos> local Settings = setmetatable({}, { __index = { require = require }})
L674[17:54:17] <Keridos> print(pcall(load("settings.lua",nil, Settings)))
L675[17:54:27] <Keridos> That does look correct, doesnt it?
L676[17:57:59] <payonel> i have to run. i can help later/when i get back if you need it
L677[17:58:05] <Keridos> ok
L678[18:03:55] <Keridos> AmandaC: you got any idea why the pcall fails?
L679[18:04:31] <AmandaC> The error is from your settings.lua
L680[18:04:52] <Keridos> well when I run settings.lua it runs without an error
L681[18:07:31] <Keridos> can I get a more detailed error output someway?
L682[18:09:24] <Keridos> updated the gist to what I currently try to use https://gist.github.com/Keridos/96330b8d2ea785a128edf444dc5e3a5c
L683[18:13:43] <AmandaC> Xpcall(load(...), Debug.traceback) will give you full stack trace
L684[18:13:55] <AmandaC> (no caps, I'm on mobile)
L685[18:16:11] <Keridos> machine:756: attempt to call a string value (upvalue 'msgh')
L686[18:17:21] <AmandaC> O.o
L687[18:17:51] <AmandaC> Oh, no () after traceback
L688[18:18:07] <AmandaC> Just debug.traceback
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L690[18:18:53] <AmandaC> It's a function that xpcall will call to get the error info
L691[18:19:37] <Keridos> got a traceback now
L692[18:19:48] <Keridos> but it still is very werid
L693[18:19:50] <Keridos> weird
L694[18:20:02] <Keridos> can I somehow paste that error and get it into clipboard?
L695[18:22:45] <Keridos> https://pastebin.com/LGzAPpmF
L696[18:25:30] <Keridos> kryptic stacktrace is cryptic
L697[18:25:57] <SF-MC> "attempt to call a nil value"
L698[18:26:07] <SF-MC> AKA you tried to function call something that isn't a function
L699[18:26:23] <Keridos> well i called load
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L701[18:29:50] <Keridos> AmandaC: I think i know the problem
L702[18:30:16] <Keridos> load expects a lua command, not a file
L703[18:30:28] <SF-MC> s/command/function/
L704[18:30:28] <MichiBot> <Keridos> load expects a lua function, not a file
L705[18:30:40] <Keridos> ah
L706[18:30:49] <Keridos> how can I get my settings file in there?
L707[18:30:54] <Keridos> with loadfile?
L708[18:30:55] <AmandaC> Pretty sure load can take a file
L709[18:30:57] <SF-MC> and, uh, I'm pretty sure load takes a file
L710[18:33:01] <Keridos> it still complains about calling a nil value in load("pathtofile", nil settings
L711[18:34:00] <Keridos> well load does expect a snippet of lua code for me
L712[18:34:06] <Keridos> just testing in lua command console
L713[18:34:27] <SF-MC> do loadfile()
L714[18:34:29] <SF-MC> Just for kicks
L715[18:34:32] <Mimiru> loadfile exists, and takes a file.. so try it :P
L716[18:35:54] <Keridos> well with loadfile it does something but settings still is nil
L717[18:36:55] <Keridos> local Settings = setmetatable({}, { __index = { require = require }})
L718[18:36:55] <Keridos> local settingsFile = loadfile("settings.lua")
L719[18:36:55] <Keridos> print(xpcall(load(settingsFile, nil, Settings),debug.traceback)) returns true
L720[18:37:16] <SF-MC> no
L721[18:37:18] <Keridos> but when I try to print key and value pairs of Settings, I get an error becase Setting seems to be nil
L722[18:37:20] <SF-MC> don't load at all
L723[18:37:23] <SF-MC> loadfile
L724[18:37:49] <Keridos> loadFile does not take a table as an argument where to put the values into?
L725[18:38:01] <SF-MC> it very much does
L726[18:38:30] <SF-MC> https://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-loadfile
L727[18:38:48] <SF-MC> https://www.lua.org/manual/5.3/manual.html#pdf-loadfile
L728[18:39:27] <Keridos> then this is broken local Settings = setmetatable({}, { __index = { require = require }})
L729[18:39:34] <Keridos> Settings still i nil for me
L730[18:39:40] <Keridos> local Settings = setmetatable({}, { __index = { require = require }})
L731[18:39:40] <Keridos> print(xpcall(loadfile("settings.lua", nil, Settings),debug.traceback))
L732[18:39:50] <Keridos> seems to load the file fine
L733[18:39:54] <Keridos> but Settings still is nil
L734[18:41:37] <[]> I swear, all of my "clever" nicks are cursed
L735[18:41:46] <SF-MC> then don't use them :P
L736[18:41:50] <[]> `, [, ], and [] get pinged here regularly
L737[18:42:21] <SF-MC> I mean, it's kinda inevitable that short names like that get pinged a lot
L738[18:42:24] <[]> SF-MC, if I can't annoy the admins by using nickserv creatively then there's no point lol
L739[18:42:36] <ben_mkiv> you dont like Arrays[]?
L740[18:42:37] <SF-MC> fair enough :)
L741[18:42:45] <Keridos> yeah, well there are people that are called like some english words
L742[18:42:46] <[]> I do like Arrays[]
L743[18:42:47] <Keridos> like "ago"
L744[18:43:00] <Keridos> calling yourself "this" might also be hilarious
L745[18:43:08] <[]> there was a guy named ping
L746[18:43:10] <SF-MC> Someone is (was?) 'ping'
L747[18:43:41] <Keridos> now I am stuck because apparently loadfile does read in the file correctly and then sets settings to nil
L748[18:43:53] <[]> ping isn't registered in ns now
L749[18:44:14] <Keridos> instead of the proper table containing all the global variables from the settings.lua
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L751[18:52:02] <SoraFirestorm> I only got this to work by supplying an absolute file path
L752[18:53:13] <SoraFirestorm> idk _why_ exactly
L753[18:53:42] <SoraFirestorm> take the easy way out though:
L754[18:53:52] <SoraFirestorm> load the shell library and use shell.resolve()
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L756[19:08:57] <Keridos> now it gets ridiculous
L757[19:09:17] <Keridos> when I test printing out the code I use for loading it works in the lua console
L758[19:09:29] <Keridos> but when I use the exact same code in my lua script it fails
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L760[19:16:22] <Kodos> Can you show me your settings file?
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L762[19:17:20] <Keridos> @Kodos https://gist.github.com/Keridos/96330b8d2ea785a128edf444dc5e3a5c
L763[19:18:20] <Keridos> the weird thing is when I type the loadfile stuff into my lua console, it loads fine
L764[19:18:28] <Keridos> and I can print the key value paris
L765[19:18:33] <Keridos> but in the script it doesnt
L766[19:18:49] <Kodos> What is the error when it fails?
L767[19:18:56] <Keridos> apaprently settings is nil
L768[19:21:00] <Kodos> Does the error mention a line number?
L769[19:21:33] <Keridos> yes in filltable there is a test if settings is nil
L770[19:21:38] <Keridos> that print does not work
L771[19:21:54] <Keridos> because apparently pairs(settings) does not work since settings seems to be nil
L772[19:22:34] <Keridos> https://gist.github.com/Keridos/96330b8d2ea785a128edf444dc5e3a5c#file-runes-lua-L101
L773[19:22:41] <Keridos> is where the error occurs
L774[19:22:50] <Keridos> but if I take that line somewhere else it still errors
L775[19:23:02] <Keridos> that was just for testing if settings even was set
L776[19:23:23] <Kodos> Hm
L777[19:24:02] <Keridos> when I use the exact same three lines: local settings = setmetatable({}, { __index = { require = require }})
L778[19:24:02] <Keridos> pcall(loadfile("/home/settings.lua", nil, settings))
L779[19:24:13] <Keridos> and the print k,v thingie in lua console it works fine
L780[19:24:23] <Keridos> rebooting the computer did not help
L781[19:25:21] <Kodos> Have you tried moving the debug print to somewhere in the actual code, and not in your function definition
L782[19:25:48] <Keridos> yes
L783[19:26:02] <Keridos> had it down there before the functions were called
L784[19:26:09] <Kodos> Which version of Lua are you trying to run this on?
L785[19:26:22] <Keridos> eh the default one on OC 1.12.2
L786[19:26:28] <Kodos> Which is?
L787[19:26:37] <SF-MC> Hover over your CPU
L788[19:26:50] <Keridos> lua 5.3
L789[19:26:57] <Kodos> Have you tried it on 5.2 yet?
L790[19:27:03] <Kodos> Just for shits and giggles
L791[19:27:06] <Keridos> how can I do it on 5.2?
L792[19:27:16] <SF-MC> Right-click with CPU in hand
L793[19:27:46] <Keridos> nope still doesnt work
L794[19:28:12] <Keridos> sounds like a bug in the lua interpreting somewhere
L795[19:28:20] <Keridos> should I open a bugreport?
L796[19:29:20] <Kodos> I mean, you could, but I'm not 100% it's a bug that's causing it
L797[19:30:06] <Keridos> now to make it even weirder
L798[19:30:14] <Keridos> when i put these three lines in their own script
L799[19:30:22] <Keridos> it does not output anything at all
L800[19:30:35] <Keridos> something is seriously broken there
L801[19:37:26] <Keridos> yup
L802[19:37:31] <Keridos> seems to be broken completely
L803[19:37:51] <Keridos> even without the settings file, with just a simple test settings
L804[19:38:50] <Mimiru> I've seen loadfile work...
L805[19:38:57] <Mimiru> I just don't know how it works to help you :P
L806[19:39:18] <SF-MC> I got it to work just eariler
L807[19:39:24] <SF-MC> (SoraFirestorm is also me)
L808[19:39:28] <Keridos> well it works fine in the lua command prompt
L809[19:39:39] <Keridos> but as soon as you enter it into a .lua scripts it starts bugging a lot
L810[19:39:52] <payonel> ok i'm back. apparently keridos is completely lost?
L811[19:40:04] <payonel> btw, sorry, i meant loadfile
L812[19:40:07] <payonel> i was paraphrasing :)
L813[19:40:16] <Keridos> :p
L814[19:40:22] <Keridos> well it makes absolutely no sense now
L815[19:40:29] <payonel> why not?
L816[19:40:33] <Keridos> the commands you gave me were correct, they work fine in lua command prompt
L817[19:40:45] <payonel> mhmm
L818[19:40:47] <Keridos> but as soon as I put them in .lua scripts it starts to bug
L819[19:40:59] <Keridos> even trying with a rather empty test file now
L820[19:41:11] <payonel> what your code?
L821[19:41:15] <payonel> 's
L822[19:41:26] <Keridos> https://gist.github.com/Keridos/96330b8d2ea785a128edf444dc5e3a5c#file-runes-lua-L101
L823[19:41:28] <Keridos> still that
L824[19:41:40] <Keridos> opening an issue at opencomputers github atm
L825[19:41:52] <Keridos> since I found this still affects far smaller test scripts
L826[19:42:13] <payonel> um
L827[19:42:15] <payonel> before you do that
L828[19:42:30] <payonel> you should realize, openos uses loadfile in this exact way i'm telling you
L829[19:42:39] <payonel> so, it's clearly a user error :)
L830[19:42:55] <Keridos> so why does it not work in lua files but in lua console
L831[19:43:05] <payonel> because you're doing it wrong
L832[19:43:12] <SoraFirestorm> Because you're evidentally doing something different/wrong
L833[19:43:14] <payonel> i'll have time to review in a minute
L834[19:44:23] <Keridos> SoraFirestorm, I copied the lines from my lua script to the console
L835[19:44:29] <Keridos> did not rewrite them or anything
L836[19:44:35] <Keridos> they work in console, but not in the script
L837[19:44:44] <SoraFirestorm> have you been updating the gist?
L838[19:44:51] <Keridos> yes
L839[19:45:43] <Keridos> well it did now
L840[19:45:53] <Keridos> apparently last update did not work
L841[19:46:06] <Keridos> but still, the code works exactly fine when I copy it into console
L842[19:46:42] <SF-MC> Check the return of loadfile() before you try to use it
L843[19:46:44] <SF-MC> eg
L844[19:46:52] <SF-MC> local res, err = loadfile(...)
L845[19:46:58] <SF-MC> if not res then print(err) end
L846[19:47:20] <SoraFirestorm> And then if you have a valid function, you can use that in your pcall()
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L848[19:48:28] <S3> I'm getting one of these soon: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--OolG2KMM--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/klc1mfykzgucxo6jxscj.mp4
L849[19:48:29] <S3> :D
L850[19:49:45] <payonel> Keridos: i've copied your code, and i get "bad arguments #1 (string expected, got nil)"
L851[19:49:52] <payonel> is that your error? [ i haven't read the code yet ]
L852[19:50:12] <Keridos> have you made the settings.lua file?`
L853[19:50:13] <SoraFirestorm> S3: Are you in the states? If so, how exactly are you getting this?
L854[19:50:31] <payonel> Keridos: yes, otherwise the error would be file not foudn
L855[19:50:33] <payonel> found*
L856[19:50:47] <payonel> ive changed your code to include some asserts for verbosity
L857[19:51:01] <payonel> assert(pcall(assert(loadfile(...))))
L858[19:51:27] <payonel> i could add xpcall(..., debug.traceback)
L859[19:52:01] <Keridos> works fine here
L860[19:52:45] <S3> SoraFirestorm: pay for it of course. It's ilegal to publicly sell them
L861[19:52:56] <S3> but private sales are different
L862[19:53:00] <payonel> https://imgur.com/a/sPwuhTE
L863[19:53:06] <SoraFirestorm> Right. That's why I was asking.
L864[19:53:16] <S3> yeah, they just can't sell them at a lot
L865[19:53:40] <Keridos> even with loadfile payonel?
L866[19:53:45] <payonel> Keridos: use some asserts
L867[19:53:52] <Keridos> i am currently
L868[19:53:55] <S3> SoraFirestorm: but uncle henry's, craigslist, etc is still fine.
L869[19:54:03] <S3> that's considered a private sale
L870[19:54:21] <payonel> assert(xpcall(assert(loadfile("/home/settings.lua", nil, settings)), debug.traceback))
L871[19:55:24] <S3> SoraFirestorm: you know the funniest part?
L872[19:55:36] <S3> it's ilegal to sell them, but it's not ilegal to buy them :P
L873[19:55:49] <Keridos> updated the git
L874[19:55:50] <Keridos> gist
L875[19:55:56] <Keridos> still does not throw any error for me
L876[19:56:38] <payonel> ok, i'll read code now
L877[19:57:26] <payonel> ah, because your settigns file tries to create proxies of components i dont have
L878[19:57:34] <Keridos> yes
L879[19:57:49] <payonel> Keridos: are you running this in a mp world i might join?
L880[19:57:59] <S3> SoraFirestorm: Thing is, I have a lot of experience with ATVs of all kinds. 3 wheelers are no more dangerous than dirt bikes or 4 wheelers, etc.
L881[19:58:00] <Keridos> eh yeah, you need a modpack for that
L882[19:58:05] <payonel> Keridos: public one?
L883[19:58:07] <S3> they're dangerous to idiots
L884[19:58:09] <payonel> or one you can link me?
L885[19:58:23] <Keridos> non public but i can WL you
L886[19:58:40] <payonel> ok, let me load up my gaming pc and such
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L888[20:01:22] <SoraFirestorm> S3: that's what I hear, and I'll believe it
L889[20:01:27] <SoraFirestorm> I'm no stranger to 4 wheelers
L890[20:01:46] <SoraFirestorm> Honestly can't imagine the 3 wheel variety to be any more dangerous
L891[20:02:25] <SoraFirestorm> Althought Wikipedia says they aren't illegal anymore?
L892[20:03:02] <SoraFirestorm> "Production of three-wheelers ceased in 1987 due to safety concerns: three-wheelers were more unstable than four-wheelers (although accidents are equally severe in both classes). The duration of the voluntary cease of production (manufacturers were not required to halt production but agreed to it) lasted 10-years and thus since 1997, manufacturers were free to once again manufacture and market three-wheelers."
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L894[20:07:50] <JayLocke> Hey Guys, I am trying to make a tier 1 computer control an extreme reactor in MC 1.12.2 but, I cant seem to get the computer to output commands to the reactor
L895[20:08:30] <JayLocke> My reactor is built and, I have the computer connected to the computer port via an OC cable
L896[20:08:49] <JayLocke> When I go into the LUA prompt, I can see the reactor as component.br_reactor
L897[20:08:49] <MichiBot> Lua*
L898[20:09:49] <SoraFirestorm> So what in particular is giving you trouble?
L899[20:09:56] <JayLocke> but, should I do commands like (component.br_reactor.setActive = true) without parenthesis, I do not recieve an error and it looks like the command runs but, the reactor never turns on
L900[20:09:58] <SoraFirestorm> Which commands are and aren't working
L901[20:10:15] <SoraFirestorm> You shouldn't do that
L902[20:10:16] <JayLocke> Setting all rods also does not do anything either
L903[20:10:24] <SoraFirestorm> setActive() is a function
L904[20:10:26] <Mimiru> component.br_reactor.setActive(true)
L905[20:10:27] <SoraFirestorm> You have to call it
L906[20:10:28] <JayLocke> Im just doing low level testing, because the program doesnt work
L907[20:10:47] <SoraFirestorm> As Mimiru wrote
L908[20:11:04] <SoraFirestorm> You're actually *overwriting* the function you need to use to communicate with the reactor
L909[20:11:14] <Mimiru> ^
L910[20:11:17] <JayLocke> Oh
L911[20:11:23] <Kodos> That seems like something that would be safeguarded
L912[20:11:24] <Kodos> BUt I guess not
L913[20:11:29] <JayLocke> lol
L914[20:11:37] <SoraFirestorm> It probably *ought* to
L915[20:11:46] <SoraFirestorm> But evidently it does not
L916[20:11:54] <JayLocke> That was done in the Lua prompt, so maybe it overode it?
L917[20:12:11] <payonel> yeah, you definitely goofed your br_reactor proxy
L918[20:12:17] <payonel> you'll need to reboot your machine
L919[20:12:21] <JayLocke> not a problem
L920[20:12:31] <JayLocke> Just did the command like mimiru wrote and that got her up
L921[20:12:49] <Corded> * <Kodos> loves his BR Program :#
L922[20:12:50] <Kodos> _loves his BR Program :#3 [Edited]
L923[20:12:52] <Kodos> _loves his BR Program :3 [Edited]
L924[20:12:52] <payonel> there are command to run that'll get Mimiru up?
L925[20:12:53] <payonel> nice
L926[20:12:59] <Kodos> loves his BR Program :3 [Edited]
L927[20:13:01] <Mimiru> o_O
L928[20:13:03] <Mimiru> O_o
L929[20:13:16] <SoraFirestorm> XD
L930[20:13:17] <payonel> %lua component.Mimiru.turnOn()
L931[20:13:17] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to index global 'component' (a nil value)
L932[20:13:19] <SoraFirestorm> Saw that one coming
L933[20:13:25] <Mimiru> woaaaaah
L934[20:13:27] <Mimiru> hey now.
L935[20:13:33] * payonel winks
L936[20:13:35] <JayLocke> and I assume that goes with all over commands to control the reactor then, .setAllRods(100)?
L937[20:13:36] <Mimiru> my component access is protected, thank you.
L938[20:13:41] <payonel> haha
L939[20:13:41] <JayLocke> *all other
L940[20:13:43] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L941[20:13:59] <SoraFirestorm> AFAIK the whole BigReactors API is exposed entirely via functions
L942[20:14:13] <payonel> everything is
L943[20:14:17] <payonel> except for a few exception
L944[20:14:18] <payonel> :)
L945[20:14:25] <JayLocke> Alright awesome. I hated that I always found amazing programs with graphics and T3/T2 computers but here I am in early game and im like, well...crap, time to make my own basic program
L946[20:14:26] <Mimiru> That's how I wrote the original.. :P
L947[20:14:33] <Mimiru> it's been changed a lot since then though lol
L948[20:14:47] <SoraFirestorm> TIL Mimiru wrote the original API
L949[20:14:51] <Kodos> I just have a server with some extras that operates my reactors/turbines
L950[20:15:13] <Kodos> Though... I wish NuclearCraft's stuff worked with OC
L951[20:15:20] <Kodos> I'd make the jump over to NC in a heartbeat
L952[20:15:35] <Mimiru> Hmm... wonder how hard it'd be to make an adapter..
L953[20:15:44] <JayLocke> Well, NC does use redstone control, right?
L954[20:16:06] <JayLocke> Effectively a glorified on off switch if im not mistaken
L955[20:16:30] <SoraFirestorm> That offers far less control though
L956[20:16:30] <Kodos> Not sure. I've not used it much outside of tinkering in creative
L957[20:16:38] <SoraFirestorm> If it does work that way
L958[20:16:53] <Kodos> Tried getting a fusion ring reactor going and the entire thing went tits up because of how you have to power the ring
L959[20:16:59] <JayLocke> Im currently on FTB Rev
L960[20:17:10] <SoraFirestorm> My favorite control program is a dead-simple proportional power leveling
L961[20:17:13] <JayLocke> I thought I would switch to NC since it seems more awesome
L962[20:17:28] <SoraFirestorm> Control rod insertion is directly proportional to stored power
L963[20:17:30] <Kodos> Sora, can't go wrong with the two rednet ports on BR
L964[20:17:32] <Kodos> Yeah
L965[20:17:52] <JayLocke> So, I have another question regarding my program
L966[20:18:15] <JayLocke> lemme get the error code
L967[20:18:47] <JayLocke> So the main issue is when I am trying to get my % power level
L968[20:18:57] <JayLocke> local percentstore = br.getEnergyStored / maxpower
L969[20:19:09] <JayLocke> I have an alias for br to be the component.br
L970[20:19:09] <SoraFirestorm> function calls need parens
L971[20:19:17] <SoraFirestorm> s/Stored/Stored()/
L972[20:19:17] <MichiBot> <JayLocke> local percentstore = br.getEnergyStored() / maxpower
L973[20:19:48] <JayLocke> ok, so any time I want to interface with the reactor, the function needs the parenthesis at the end?
L974[20:19:57] <SoraFirestorm> yes
L975[20:20:05] <Kodos> Sometimes it needs arguments inside of them, depending on the funciton
L976[20:20:06] <SoraFirestorm> Lua functions are _always_ called with parens
L977[20:20:07] <Kodos> Sometimes it needs arguments inside of them, depending on the function [Edited]
L978[20:20:10] <JayLocke> either to write a value or to...keep it working
L979[20:20:30] <Mimiru> The only time you don't use parenthesis is when you're using event.listen
L980[20:20:34] <JayLocke> Thank you for the help guys
L981[20:20:58] <Mimiru> the function name inside event.listen can't have them, or it's called then, and doesn't work later.
L982[20:20:59] <JayLocke> and event.listen is for things like where I need the computer to detect something like a keystroke, right?
L983[20:21:04] <Mimiru> yeah
L984[20:21:17] <Mimiru> keystroke, signal from an external component, or something
L985[20:21:39] <SoraFirestorm> Mimiru: why not for event.listen?
L986[20:21:49] <SoraFirestorm> Has that changed since the last time I used the event library?
L987[20:22:11] <SoraFirestorm> ooh
L988[20:22:18] <Mimiru> It's been like that for... ever IIRC.
L989[20:22:32] <JayLocke> hopefully I can get this working, I have modified other people's code for my own personal projects but, this is my first time writing from scratch
L990[20:22:34] <SoraFirestorm> You're referring to the callback portion, right?
L991[20:22:42] <Mimiru> event.listen(eventName, someFunction)
L992[20:22:47] <SoraFirestorm> yeah, OK
L993[20:22:49] <Mimiru> no perens on someFunction
L994[20:22:52] <SoraFirestorm> I totally misread
L995[20:23:07] <Mimiru> s/eventName/"eventName"/
L996[20:23:07] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> event.listen("eventName", someFunction)
L997[20:23:24] <SoraFirestorm> I thought you meant for the call to event.listen proper, not the callbac
L998[20:23:26] <Kodos> Don't you generally want handlers, too, so you can turn off the corresponding listen?
L999[20:23:28] <SoraFirestorm> s/bac/back/
L1000[20:23:28] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> I thought you meant for the call to event.listen proper, not the callback
L1001[20:24:18] <Mimiru> you just call ignore on the same args
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L1003[20:28:25] <payonel> yeah, no parens gives you the function poniter
L1004[20:28:38] <payonel> but .... btw
L1005[20:28:47] <payonel> you don't need parens to call a method with 1 arg
L1006[20:28:48] <payonel> :)
L1007[20:28:52] <payonel> %lua print"hello"
L1008[20:28:52] <MichiBot> hello
L1009[20:28:55] * payonel runs
L1010[20:29:07] <Keridos> is there a quick way in edit to remove all lines?
L1011[20:29:09] <SoraFirestorm> but honestly, you shouldn't rely on that
L1012[20:29:21] <payonel> Keridos: shift+delete
L1013[20:29:25] <payonel> or ^delete
L1014[20:29:28] <payonel> SoraFirestorm: why?
L1015[20:29:43] <SoraFirestorm> Because it's easier to make code consistent that way
L1016[20:29:58] <SoraFirestorm> There's no forgetting to fix it if the number of arguments change
L1017[20:30:05] <payonel> SoraFirestorm: ah, sure. "rely" though implies that it may not work
L1018[20:30:09] <payonel> stylistically, yes, i agree
L1019[20:30:21] <SoraFirestorm> hm, yeah, 'rely' is the wrong word, agree
L1020[20:30:40] <SoraFirestorm> don't abuse that :P
L1021[20:30:53] <payonel> yeah. it is weird
L1022[20:31:00] <payonel> seems a waste of parsing code
L1023[20:31:16] <payonel> ok, i should feed my offspring
L1024[20:31:21] * payonel shall return
L1025[20:40:41] <Keridos> does bundled input and output work with enderio redstone conduits in 1.12.2ß
L1026[20:40:42] <Keridos> ?
L1027[20:41:01] <Kodos> No idea, try it and report back ?
L1028[20:43:36] <Keridos> hm does not seem so
L1029[20:46:50] <Keridos> project red does not work, too
L1030[20:46:53] <Keridos> hmpf
L1031[20:47:32] <Keridos> is there any bundled wire supported in 1.12.2?
L1032[20:49:15] <Mimiru> AFAIK https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.12/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/integration/Mods.scala#L20-L33 this is the list of supported mods in 1.12
L1033[20:49:52] <Keridos> hm, i think only meknaism has bundled wire
L1034[20:50:29] <Mimiru> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/integration/Mods.scala#L20-L90 that list is MUCH bigger in 1.10
L1035[20:50:29] <Mimiru> lol
L1036[20:50:47] <Keridos> yup
L1037[20:51:07] <Keridos> payonel mentioned in one of the tickets that he was gonna check that out 2 months ago
L1038[21:00:50] <payonel> Keridos: blame xarxes
L1039[21:01:38] <payonel> xarses*
L1040[21:01:48] <payonel> he asked for shell config support in editors
L1041[21:01:59] <payonel> that has consumed the last 2 or 3 months of my life
L1042[21:02:12] <payonel> s/life/free time to work on oc/
L1043[21:02:12] <MichiBot> <payonel> that has consumed the last 2 or 3 months of my free time to work on oc
L1044[21:02:59] <Keridos> o.O
L1045[21:03:23] <Keridos> i am not familiar with scala at all
L1046[21:03:50] <Keridos> else I might take a peek into how you did that in 1.10.2 and compare it to 1.12.2 to see on how to readd that in 1.12
L1047[21:04:56] <payonel> i'll get there, eventually
L1048[21:04:59] <payonel> my cursor and editor are done
L1049[21:05:08] <payonel> now i can work on making a cross system config
L1050[21:05:11] <payonel> i have the idea worked out
L1051[21:05:27] <payonel> i should be done this weekend (i have monday off work)
L1052[21:08:38] <JayLocke> so, another question... I am trying to print out the percent power level of my reactor but, im getting errors
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L1054[21:09:15] <JayLocke> print("Current power = " percentstore" "%")
L1055[21:09:40] <SoraFirestorm> You're not doing string interpolation
L1056[21:09:45] <SoraFirestorm> er, concatenation
L1057[21:09:50] <SoraFirestorm> combine strings with .. !
L1058[21:09:56] <SoraFirestorm> '..'
L1059[21:10:04] <SoraFirestorm> "string 1" .. "string 2"
L1060[21:10:09] <payonel> JayLocke: are you just making up lua?
L1061[21:10:29] <JayLocke> so it should be ("Current power =" ..percentstore.. "%")
L1062[21:10:56] <JayLocke> Im a rookie at programming and trying my best but the oc website went down, so I cant reference the majority of the API
L1063[21:11:39] <payonel> ocdoc.cil.li ?
L1064[21:11:41] <payonel> it's not down
L1065[21:11:47] <payonel> also, learn lua from lua docs :)
L1066[21:12:04] <SoraFirestorm> payonel: was about to say, just sounds like someone with practically 0 experience
L1067[21:12:06] <JayLocke> I got an error 503, but whatever maybe it was a hiccup from my end
L1068[21:12:52] <JayLocke> 0 experience with LUA
L1069[21:12:52] <MichiBot> Lua*
L1070[21:13:11] <JayLocke> I had a highschool class on Java, C++ and, VBB
L1071[21:13:16] <JayLocke> but that was over a decade ago
L1072[21:14:33] <JayLocke> Huzzah, I got the percentage working. Thank you
L1073[21:14:57] <JayLocke> I'll look up how to drop off the extra numbers
L1074[21:15:35] <SoraFirestorm> round it
L1075[21:16:05] <SoraFirestorm> Using the string formatting functions
L1076[21:16:22] <JayLocke> alright, i'll look up string formatting
L1077[21:19:25] <Izaya> https://i.4cdn.org/g/1527368641237.jpg
L1078[21:36:53] <JayLocke> math.floor, thats pretty simple actually
L1079[21:37:57] <SoraFirestorm> that works too
L1080[21:38:03] <SoraFirestorm> but only if you want integer numbers
L1081[21:38:14] <SoraFirestorm> but if you want integer numbers, that's the better way IMO
L1082[21:38:30] <JayLocke> yup, I didnt care if my reactor was at 50.1234% power, 50% is good enough
L1083[21:39:52] <SoraFirestorm> I sometimes like 1 or 2 after the decimal point
L1084[21:39:58] <SoraFirestorm> 51.6 or 81.43
L1085[21:40:07] <SoraFirestorm> whatever works for you
L1086[21:42:08] <Izaya> also whoa it's sora hi it's been a while
L1087[21:42:15] <SoraFirestorm> yo
L1088[21:42:18] <SoraFirestorm> yeah, it has been
L1089[21:42:29] <SoraFirestorm> recentlyish decided to play a little Minecraft again
L1090[22:04:27] <S3> I think they should make automatic payment after a time trial with something ilegal
L1091[22:04:47] <S3> like, you should have to verify automatic payment with them
L1092[22:05:54] <SoraFirestorm> I'm a little surprised that's not already something that's illegal
L1093[22:06:08] <SoraFirestorm> Then again, I have a low bar to pass
L1094[22:06:25] <SoraFirestorm> rather, I'm cynically not surprised
L1095[22:06:39] <S3> I just realized I've been paying audible $15 a month for a year
L1096[22:06:55] <S3> how many times have I used it since the time I tested the trial? none.
L1097[22:07:12] <S3> imo they should pay me back 100% but that's against policy
L1098[22:07:25] <SoraFirestorm> I mean
L1099[22:07:34] <SoraFirestorm> How do they even have your credit card/payment stuff?
L1100[22:08:00] <S3> need it for the trial, it's more than just for payment. that's how they check if you're over 18 for exampler
L1101[22:08:15] <S3> bcause you're not supposed to be in posession of a credit card if you're under 18
L1102[22:08:16] <SoraFirestorm> hm
L1103[22:08:30] <SoraFirestorm> I'd definitely go through whatever legal channels you can
L1104[22:08:45] <S3> I don't think I'd get anywhere
L1105[22:08:47] <SoraFirestorm> Make a dispute with your bank or whatevers
L1106[22:08:57] <SoraFirestorm> Yeah I know, but I'd still try
L1107[22:09:00] <S3> it's pretty common knowlege that when a trial runs out they have full permission to start billing you
L1108[22:09:56] <S3> another thing that bugs me. subscription access. I understand they're there to make money, but if I ran my own subscription service like netflix or something and you din't log in once one month, I woulm't even charge you for it
L1109[22:10:02] <S3> that just makes sense
L1110[22:10:21] <SoraFirestorm> How is that common knowledge?
L1111[22:10:25] <S3> you're paying for service, and if you don't get service ythen it would just be taking money from you
L1112[22:10:41] <SoraFirestorm> That isn't and shouldn't be a default
L1113[22:10:57] <S3> it's common knowledge that when you do trials, that's just the way they workj, they sneak them into the EULAs and such, businesses have been doing it for years
L1114[22:10:59] <S3> and I agree
L1115[22:11:03] <SoraFirestorm> meh
L1116[22:11:36] <S3> one thing that really sucks is my eve online subscription
L1117[22:11:38] <SoraFirestorm> I'm disappointed but I'm an American so it doesn't surprise me
L1118[22:11:53] <S3> every time I re-enable eve online there's no disable auto payment option
L1119[22:11:55] <S3> pisses me off
L1120[22:12:15] <S3> so if I don't remember to disable it at the end of the month I decice to stop paying they start charging
L1121[22:13:10] <S3> I feel like if I were to sum up all of the games I never played half the time and have subscriptions for I'd get a couple grand if I got my money back
L1122[22:13:18] <S3> but I'm not too worried about that
L1123[22:13:34] <S3> at least in eve your skills are being trained when you're offlinre
L1124[22:14:00] <S3> anyways my problem rioght now is that I had a couple unexpected payments go through
L1125[22:14:14] <S3> and I have been pushing my money limit the end of this month right
L1126[22:14:27] <S3> and I wanted to do whatever I can not to have the credit card payment bounce
L1127[22:14:43] <S3> but it takes over a day for the payment to go through
L1128[22:14:50] <S3> and likeluy until the first
L1129[22:15:33] <S3> if anything charges my account from now until the time credit card goes through then it will bring my credit score down as a missed payment
L1130[22:16:38] <S3> I just wish the blasted stupid credit card company would charge my bank account immediately..
L1131[22:16:46] <S3> right when I click the frigging pay button
L1132[22:17:13] <S3> that way payments will bounce my account an all I have to do is pay the overdraft fee which is way better than a missed payment
L1133[22:20:08] <S3> Maybe tomorrow morning I can get some instant cash into the ATM from my pocket thatl instantly show up in my bank acct
L1134[22:20:21] <S3> for safety
L1135[22:21:00] <S3> SoraFirestorm: I'm glad I start my new job this coming tuesday
L1136[22:21:55] <S3> the one I had just emailed me before my payday and said that I forgot to click some button somewhere so they can't pay me for my summer hours I put it (what? I'm pretty sure that's ilegal...)
L1137[22:22:21] <S3> If I work and you say I can work a paying job, you HAVE to pay me
L1138[22:22:26] <S3> that's just the law
L1139[22:22:30] <SoraFirestorm> yeah basically
L1140[22:22:59] <S3> yeah well. Never work for a university system
L1141[22:23:41] <S3> they literally were like "yeah well your summer re-employment papers weren't finalized because you didn't click the accept button that we just invented THIS SEMESTER that you never had to click before
L1142[22:24:10] <S3> doesn't matter in a court of law. my secretary said I could work, so I di
L1143[22:24:15] <S3> now pay me, bitches :)
L1144[22:24:59] <S3> I'm not going to bring anyone to court, but if they argue I'll remind them of that.
L1145[22:25:29] <S3> It wouldn't be the first time I had to do it
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L1147[22:36:49] <payonel> S3: yeah, that's definitely illegal
L1148[22:37:46] <payonel> S3: i doubt you'll have to go to court, just contact your department of labor for your state
L1149[23:07:39] <Kodos> What mod was it that had barrels you could put gunpowder in, seal, and then light them, and the explosion would scale based on the amount of gunpowder you had in the barrel
L1150[23:08:38] <JayLocke> Immersive Engineering?
L1151[23:08:44] <JayLocke> I know they have the gunpwder barrel
L1152[23:09:17] <Kodos> Just checked, you can't access a GUI for it
L1153[23:09:36] <JayLocke> I dunno then
L1154[23:09:37] <Kodos> It was probably an older mod
L1155[23:11:30] <SoraFirestorm> I just now noticed that Emacs does infact render the U+200B ZERO WIDTH SPACE as a very thin character
L1156[23:16:29] <SoraFirestorm> anyways
L1157[23:16:30] <SoraFirestorm> I
L1158[23:16:35] <SoraFirestorm> I'll see you guys later, eventually
L1159[23:16:36] <SoraFirestorm> o/
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L1162[23:22:37] <JayLocke> argh, time for more troubleshooting
L1163[23:23:43] <joaoadao> hello
L1164[23:23:46] <joaoadao> who are there?
L1165[23:25:52] ⇨ Joins: beach200 (beach200!webchat@201-41-224-178.bnut3703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br)
L1166[23:26:00] <JayLocke> im here
L1167[23:26:20] <joaoadao> what mc mod you have?
L1168[23:26:31] <JayLocke> im playing on the revelations modpack
L1169[23:27:11] <joaoadao> oh
L1170[23:27:16] <joaoadao> im making my modpack
L1171[23:27:25] <joaoadao> for the 100000 time ¬¬
L1172[23:27:46] <Kodos> Anyone mess with Industrial Wires' Control Panels?
L1173[23:28:00] <joaoadao> industrial wires
L1174[23:28:04] <joaoadao> what mod is it ?
L1175[23:28:42] <joaoadao> its a addo for industrial craft?
L1176[23:28:47] <Kodos> It's an addon for Immersive Engineering and IC2, yes
L1177[23:28:49] <joaoadao> its a addon for industrial craft? [Edited]
L1178[23:28:54] <joaoadao> oh
L1179[23:29:16] <joaoadao> is very interesting
L1180[23:29:42] <joaoadao> lol this mod works with ae2
L1181[23:30:48] <joaoadao> oh sh** it only work with 1.xx
L1182[23:30:51] <joaoadao> ;-;
L1183[23:33:51] <Kodos> Eh?
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L1185[23:37:13] <joaoadao> my modpack is only for 1.7.10
L1186[23:37:21] <joaoadao> ;-;
L1187[23:38:31] <Mimiru> I'm fairly sure the 1.7.10 OC builds work just fine with 1.7.10 AE builds.
L1188[23:39:08] <joaoadao> what you has talking about ???
L1189[23:39:35] <joaoadao> i talkin about the addon
L1190[23:39:39] <joaoadao> ¬¬
L1191[23:39:46] * Mimiru facedesks
L1192[23:40:00] <Kodos> THe addon doesn't exist in 1.7
L1193[23:40:05] <Kodos> So no, you won't be able to use it
L1194[23:40:25] <Kodos> Also it is very hard to understand what you are saying, I'm going to assume English isn't your native tongue
L1195[23:45:34] <joaoadao> yes you're correct my native language is pt-br
L1196[23:50:44] <JayLocke> If I am comparing a string in an if statement, what is the proper way to do that? Do I need to put the string in quotations?
L1197[23:51:13] <JayLocke> wait, I only had a single = instead of ==
L1198[23:51:48] <JayLocke> nope, question still stands
L1199[23:52:13] <Mimiru> yes
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