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L1[00:00:54] <Forecaster> %loot
L2[00:00:54] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .mp5.
L3[00:01:12] <Mimiru> I know I shouldn't... but meh
L4[00:01:13] <Mimiru> %loot
L5[00:01:13] <MichiBot> Mimiru: You get a loot box! It contains a pebble.
L6[00:01:16] <Mimiru> ....
L7[00:01:19] <Mimiru> fuckin. really?
L8[00:01:24] <SF-MC> %loot
L9[00:01:24] <MichiBot> SF-MC: You get a loot box! It contains an empty shot glass.
L10[00:01:29] <SF-MC> ooh, neat
L11[00:01:43] <SF-MC> even though I don't drink
L12[00:02:21] <Izaya> %loot
L13[00:02:21] <MichiBot> Izaya: You get a loot box! It contains a slice of butter.
L14[00:02:29] * Izaya frowns
L15[00:21:11] <Temia> %loot
L16[00:21:11] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a loot box! It contains a Magic cute girl engine! (25%)
L17[00:21:19] <Temia> ...Yeah OK
L18[00:21:51] * Temia equips, gains infinite EN
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L53[01:22:28] <Forecaster> %loot
L54[01:22:28] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a sad looking flower.
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L64[04:16:48] <Forecaster> %loot
L65[04:16:48] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains two lockpicks.
L66[04:19:39] <Inari> %fling Forecaster
L67[04:19:39] * MichiBot flings loot box in a random direction. It hits Forecaster right where they didn't expect. They take 8 damage.
L68[04:21:17] <Inari> Hm I need to learn how to merge these functions, it seems a bit silly to write two separate functions everytime I need recursion
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L71[04:21:45] <Inari> It's Sangar!
L72[04:24:51] <Forecaster> why stop at two
L73[04:24:56] <Forecaster> write ten different functions!
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L76[06:58:54] <Inari> "Bad Person" #CreativeEnemynames
L77[07:00:41] <Forecaster> Badguy
L78[07:10:45] <Inari> %inv add a loaned sock
L79[07:10:46] * MichiBot summons 'a loaned sock' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L80[07:11:13] <ben_mkiv> not sure if thats a good idea michi
L81[07:12:25] <Inari> %slap ben_mkiv
L82[07:12:25] * MichiBot slaps ben_mkiv with propane wind doing 12 damage
L83[07:14:01] <Inari> %inv add space potatoes
L84[07:14:01] * MichiBot summons 'space potatoes' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L85[07:20:15] <gerard> %lootbox
L86[07:20:15] <MichiBot> gerard: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .7z.
L87[07:20:41] <gerard> but wat was originally packed in there
L88[07:29:12] <Lizzian> %lootbox
L89[07:29:12] <MichiBot> Lizzian: You get a loot box! It contains a viscous blue potion.
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L91[07:30:42] <Inari> %lootbox
L92[07:30:42] <MichiBot> Inari: You get a loot box! It contains a leaf.
L93[07:31:04] <Forecaster> @gerard you wont know, cause it's broken :P
L94[07:32:14] <gerard> Now I will never be able to sleep again, thinking what could be in there
L95[07:32:29] <gerard> maybe it were cute lolis
L96[07:34:28] <Izaya> in that case, RIP you
L97[07:36:26] <ben_mkiv> add some winrar licenese to the junk please xD
L98[07:37:40] <Forecaster> but getting it would save you money
L99[07:41:27] <Izaya> nah
L100[07:41:34] <Izaya> 7zip exists, winrar is redundant
L101[07:42:03] <AmandaC> The 7z contained a rce exploit in the 7z decoder
L102[07:42:30] <Forecaster> ...that's completely irrelevant
L103[07:42:51] <Forecaster> the point was that it's something you have to pay for, so gaining it for free equals saving money :P
L104[07:43:08] <Izaya> but you don't need to pay for winrar anyway
L105[07:43:21] <Izaya> actually htf did the company that made winrar survive
L106[07:43:34] <Forecaster> because businesses pay for it
L107[07:43:40] <Izaya> oh
L108[07:43:42] <Izaya> that make sense
L109[07:44:11] <Izaya> same reason windows is so profitable when most individuals will either pirate it or use the OEM version
L110[07:44:12] <AmandaC> No, it's a front for a secret society, buying a license is your ticket in
L111[07:44:14] <Forecaster> and people who use it and want the popup to go away I guess
L112[08:03:22] <gerard> and people who wants to go to heaven
L113[08:03:35] <gerard> it's a test, open your eyes
L114[08:03:47] <Forecaster> well I don't want to go so that's fine
L115[08:04:03] <Izaya> I'd prefer to stick around here tbh
L116[08:04:21] <20kdc> what if I just... don't use winrar
L117[08:04:30] <20kdc> then I don't have to worry about the dilemma
L118[08:04:42] <Izaya> Like I said, 7zip exists
L119[08:04:50] <20kdc> ^ basically do that
L120[08:05:38] <20kdc> the point being that if I'm not using Winrar, then I am thus not doing anything evil by not registering something I'm not using and don't have around
L121[08:05:39] <Forecaster> I use both
L122[08:05:50] <20kdc> so gerard's test... I wonder how that would work out
L123[08:06:05] <AmandaC> 7z did actually have a couple of recent decoder RCEs, btw, so make sure it's up to date before opening random files
L124[08:06:10] <Forecaster> @20kdc you'd go to limbo then, probably
L125[08:06:24] <20kdc> sounds... calm
L126[08:06:49] <Izaya> what if there are those floating heads
L127[08:07:02] <Forecaster> actually it's full of librarians whisper-yelling "ssssh" in your ear when you make the slightest sound
L128[08:07:10] <Izaya> are there books also?
L129[08:07:16] <Forecaster> no
L130[08:07:22] <Izaya> then why are there librarians
L131[08:07:23] <Forecaster> they're too noisy
L132[08:07:36] <Forecaster> ...it's a stereotype, just work with it
L133[08:07:42] * Saphire floats on Izaya
L134[08:07:49] <Forecaster> %lootbox
L135[08:07:49] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .mp5.
L136[08:07:53] <Forecaster> dang
L137[08:08:05] <Saphire> %loot
L138[08:08:05] <MichiBot> Saphire: You get a loot box! It contains an upside-down cross.
L139[08:08:12] <Saphire> %loot
L140[08:08:12] <MichiBot> Saphire: You get a loot box! It contains a box full of worms.
L141[08:08:13] <gerard> %lootbox
L142[08:08:24] <gerard> I'm happy you got that one
L143[08:08:27] <gerard> %lootbox
L144[08:08:27] <MichiBot> gerard: You get a loot box! It contains an empty shot glass.
L145[08:08:39] <gerard> Oh well, I can fill it myself
L146[08:09:07] * Izaya offers gerard some rum
L147[08:09:26] <Corded> * <gerard> fills glass with rum
L148[08:09:27] <gerard> cheers
L149[08:09:55] <gerard> i actually need it, i'm getting crazy of JavaScript
L150[08:10:30] <Forecaster> sounds fun
L151[08:10:36] <Forecaster> what are you doing? :P
L152[08:10:41] <Izaya> Keep the bottle. You'll need it.
L153[08:11:28] <gerard> i'm drawing lines
L154[08:11:51] <Forecaster> oh fun
L155[08:11:52] <Forecaster> how?
L156[08:12:04] <gerard> http://tinyurl.com/ybjadwew
L157[08:12:21] <gerard> it shows the distance between stuff
L158[08:12:28] <Forecaster> oh you're still working on that
L159[08:12:30] <gerard> and it needs to be exported to a PDF
L160[08:12:31] <gerard> yeah
L161[08:12:43] <gerard> I want to do sum C# :(
L162[08:12:51] <Forecaster> how'd you go 3D stuff injs?
L163[08:12:56] <Forecaster> how'd you go 3D stuff in js? [Edited]
L164[08:13:05] <gerard> we use a library THREE.js
L165[08:13:14] <gerard> but it uses WebGL, which is a wrapper for OpenGL
L166[08:13:18] <Forecaster> neat
L167[08:13:26] <Forecaster> I've never needed 3D rendering
L168[08:13:29] <Wuerfel_21> can use CSS transforms, too
L169[08:13:51] <Wuerfel_21> if you don't value your sanity
L170[08:15:03] <gerard> actually THREE.js which allows you to place a HTML element in the 3D space
L171[08:15:19] <gerard> but actually it's just doing a CSS 3D transform on the html element
L172[08:15:30] <Forecaster> sounds neat
L173[08:15:38] <Forecaster> I might be able to use that for something...
L174[08:15:44] <Forecaster> but I don't need more projects right now xD
L175[08:16:09] <gerard> https://threejs.org/examples/css3d_youtube.html
L176[08:16:12] <Wuerfel_21> https://keithclark.co.uk/labs/css-fps/
L177[08:16:38] <Wuerfel_21> 3D DOM is whack
L178[08:17:05] <gerard> http://tinyurl.com/y7vk36lb
L179[08:17:31] <Forecaster> I don't know what "whack" means in this decade
L180[08:17:55] <Wuerfel_21> it even works without any JS at all, just CSS and HTML
L181[08:18:09] <Forecaster> heh, I can strafe left but not right
L182[08:18:16] <Forecaster> and the shadows glitch a lot
L183[08:18:17] <Izaya> nice
L184[08:18:23] <Izaya> one corner updates a lot faster than the others
L185[08:18:49] <Forecaster> also my gun seems to be broken
L186[08:18:59] <Forecaster> how am I supposed to defend myself against these barrels?
L187[08:20:28] <Izaya> run into them so they explode
L188[08:21:24] <Forecaster> that doesn't sound like a sound strategy
L189[08:21:50] <augitesoul> That looks awesome, but it does weird white flashes for me
L190[08:23:39] <gerard> I think because CSS was not made for a game engine
L191[08:23:45] <gerard> or maybe it is
L192[08:24:55] <20kdc> who thought 3D in CSS was a good idea
L193[08:25:43] <Wuerfel_21> using a magic mouse as a stand in for mice in general is also a terrible idea, since a magic mouse is not only insuitable for any sort of use but also looks like a white oval, so someone not familiar with it will be confused
L194[08:27:16] <Izaya> >not using a hockey puck mouse
L195[08:27:58] <Wuerfel_21> oeuf
L196[08:39:04] <Forecaster> I'm surprised none seems to have made a mouse from an actual hockey puck
L197[08:41:37] <ben_mkiv> wow
L198[08:41:45] <ben_mkiv> that crashed my tab when i clipped through the wall
L199[08:41:46] <ben_mkiv> xD
L200[08:42:18] <ben_mkiv> but three.js is pretty neat, theres also blender exporter :>
L201[08:42:29] <ben_mkiv> but it may support wavefront objects now?!
L202[08:42:34] <Wuerfel_21> they should do actual first-person websites
L203[08:42:46] <Wuerfel_21> "go this way to sign up"
L204[08:43:13] <gerard> and that you see other people walking around that are also visiting your website
L205[08:43:15] <ben_mkiv> http://cityofdrones.io/ well this is dope
L206[08:43:23] <Wuerfel_21> "go to room 5 on the third floor for discussing roller hockey"
L207[08:43:33] <ben_mkiv> that reminds me of a game
L208[08:43:41] <ben_mkiv> with cop drone vehicles... but cant recall the name
L209[08:44:08] <Wuerfel_21> you can actually select transformed text...
L210[08:46:59] <Izaya> JanusVR, anyone?
L211[08:47:02] <Wuerfel_21> hmmm... can you transform an video player?
L212[08:47:37] <Forecaster> yes
L213[08:47:49] <Izaya> https://hackaday.io/project/5077-metaverse-lab
L214[08:47:53] <Forecaster> @gerard posted this https://threejs.org/examples/css3d_youtube.html
L215[08:53:54] <Wuerfel_21> wow
L216[09:08:32] * ben_mkiv is just enjoying https://moments.epic.net/#bird
L217[09:15:13] <Saphire> Hm
L218[09:15:34] <Saphire> Browser fingerprinting as an authorization security addition
L219[09:49:28] <S3> +well this was a bad idea
L220[09:49:50] <S3> I should have never decided to try my project in Python, it's such an annoying languag
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L224[10:20:35] <ben_mkiv> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a47z3X1_460swp.webp
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L226[10:32:42] <Temia> Commence duty for "A Game of Cat and Mouse"? ※If your level is above 70, it will be synced.
L227[10:33:36] * Saphire scratches head
L228[10:33:40] <Saphire> So I got bored
L229[10:34:08] <Saphire> And there's a thing on Discord where people convert their avatars into 4 colors (which are honestly? Pretty shit to automatically convert to)
L230[11:07:21] <Wuerfel_21> ?
L231[11:10:06] <payonel> i need feedback. i have a new edit i've been working on for a few months (well, most of the work has been in openos tty layer)
L232[11:10:16] <payonel> it has syntax highlighting, and it works reasonably well
L233[11:10:34] <payonel> but, turning on all the syntax highlighting slows things down. our string parsing in our sandbox has a high cost
L234[11:10:45] <payonel> so i'm thinking of having the highlighting off by default
L235[11:10:50] <payonel> and you can use --color to turn it on
L236[11:11:53] <Wuerfel_21> ctrl+something to toggle?
L237[11:12:04] <payonel> that's fine, by off-by-default is the concern
L238[11:12:22] <Vexatos> then noone would know it exists :P
L239[11:12:29] <payonel> exactly
L240[11:12:35] <payonel> :)
L241[11:13:06] <Wuerfel_21> does it just highlight keywords or does it do more?
L242[11:13:16] <Ben> cant you do that highlighting clientside?
L243[11:13:28] <payonel> keywords, some common globals, strings and single line comment
L244[11:13:38] <payonel> @ben definitely not
L245[11:13:42] <payonel> openos runs server side
L246[11:13:57] <payonel> your client only sees gpu updates
L247[11:14:15] <Ben> ik, but it also has all the openos data
L248[11:14:22] <Ben> but didnt think about userdata...
L249[11:14:36] <payonel> @ben there is no way this could run client side
L250[11:15:19] <Wuerfel_21> i assume the slowdown has to do with GPU state changes?
L251[11:15:24] <payonel> no, string parsing
L252[11:16:07] <payonel> string irl is extremely fast (for this type of work)
L253[11:16:16] <payonel> but our string parsing in the sandbox has many reasons it is quite slow
L254[11:16:35] <Wuerfel_21> huh? strings are sandboxed somwhow?
L255[11:16:42] <payonel> definitely
L256[11:17:17] <payonel> our string engine runs checked, due to uninterruptable exploits
L257[11:17:41] <payonel> so when you do A LOT of string work, it gets very expensive
L258[11:17:49] <Vexatos> (see: selene)
L259[11:18:01] <payonel> if this code were run on real metal, it wouldn't have a noticeable impact
L260[11:18:25] <payonel> yep, and what i'm doing is a fraction of selene's parsing
L261[11:19:00] <payonel> ANYways, this is besides the point
L262[11:19:09] <payonel> off by default seems the best option
L263[11:19:18] <payonel> which makes me a bit sad :(
L264[11:21:18] <payonel> https://imgur.com/a/6kdz1tr
L265[11:21:40] <Wuerfel_21> cool and good
L266[11:21:54] <Wuerfel_21> ~~autocomplete when~~
L267[11:22:06] <payonel> i could add that too
L268[11:22:12] <payonel> but, some other time
L269[11:22:35] <payonel> this new editor is using the new cursor library
L270[11:22:40] <payonel> which is the same cursor lib used in the shell
L271[11:23:07] <payonel> so, hooking into the tab complete would be a natural extension
L272[11:23:34] <payonel> btw, those colors are my gnome-terminal colors
L273[11:23:41] <payonel> the real in-game colors are a bit different
L274[11:23:44] <payonel> but, same idea :)
L275[11:24:07] <Wuerfel_21> well, the in-game ones are configureable
L276[11:24:58] <payonel> so is my gnome terminal :)
L277[11:28:29] <LeshaInc> speaking about syntax highlighting, I did have one in my lua parser+analyzer
L278[11:28:31] <LeshaInc> https://i.imgur.com/QfCGKxg.png
L279[11:28:43] <LeshaInc> though analyzer isn't done yet
L280[11:29:37] <payonel> LeshaInc: and that runs in game? and is it a static or dynamic analyzer?
L281[11:29:51] <LeshaInc> a static analyzer written in pure lua
L282[11:30:05] <LeshaInc> no dependencies so it can be run in game
L283[11:30:23] <payonel> using vt100 i see, which we support too :)
L284[11:30:41] <LeshaInc> we have no bold text for now
L285[11:31:02] <LeshaInc> but i have opened an issue a few days ago
L286[11:31:04] <LeshaInc> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2831
L287[11:31:04] <MichiBot> Title: Brighter colors in ANSI escape codes and custom colors | Posted by: LeshaInc | Posted: Sun May 06 14:50:55 CDT 2018 | Status: open
L288[11:43:51] <jrddunbr> Hi. Using arch linux, the client reports that native Lua libraries are not available. Are there any particular packages that I need to have installed? I've installed Lua 5.3.4 . Any ideas?
L289[11:44:02] <jrddunbr> Hi. Using arch linux, the client reports that native Lua libraries are not available. Are there any particular packages that I need to have installed? I've installed Lua 5.3.4. Any ideas? [Edited]
L290[11:44:10] <jrddunbr> Hi. Using arch linux, the client reports that native Lua libraries are not available. Are there any particular packages that I need to have installed? I've installed Lua 5.3.4 on my system. Any ideas? [Edited]
L291[11:44:31] <jrddunbr> Is there like a particular library I need to have installed?
L292[11:55:27] <payonel> @jrddunbr https://imgur.com/a/yYZVSrM
L293[11:56:00] <jrddunbr> whops, looks like editing text on discord doesn't go across the bridge. My bad
L294[11:56:09] <Mimiru> maybe I should see about suppressing multiple edits....
L295[11:56:14] <Mimiru> Oh the edits go across fine
L296[11:56:18] <Mimiru> that's the issue.
L297[11:56:28] <payonel> just suppress the op :P
L298[11:56:39] <jrddunbr> I'm not sure IRC works like that...
L299[11:56:42] <Mimiru> payonel, write the code that sends the diff then
L300[11:56:47] <Mimiru> and I'll implement it
L301[11:56:57] <payonel> op as in "original poster"
L302[11:56:58] <Mimiru> :P
L303[11:57:11] <jrddunbr> ah
L304[11:57:23] <payonel> i was kidding
L305[11:57:26] <jrddunbr> Is there just a way to diable the edits on the Discord side to discourage it?
L306[11:57:37] <jrddunbr> ie, a perm thing?
L307[11:57:45] <payonel> @jrddunbr it's not a big deal
L308[11:57:49] <payonel> i was just poking fun
L309[11:57:54] <jrddunbr> I figure not ?
L310[11:58:08] <jrddunbr> Does anyone have any ideas?
L311[11:58:20] <jrddunbr> If you know of a Ubuntu package that fixes the problem perhaps I can look it up for example
L312[11:58:44] <payonel> @jrddunbr there is no need to have lua on the system
L313[11:58:54] <payonel> the natives are supposed to be downloaded to your mc folder
L314[11:59:00] <Mimiru> ^
L315[11:59:00] <jrddunbr> How do I fix the error then?
L316[11:59:02] <jrddunbr> oh.. mmm
L317[11:59:30] <jrddunbr> I suspect this only really matters on the server side of things right?
L318[11:59:35] <payonel> correct
L319[12:00:30] <jrddunbr> what folder is that typically in.
L320[12:02:57] <payonel> @jrddunbr on the server?
L321[12:03:02] <jrddunbr> Yea
L322[12:03:03] <payonel> sorry, i was afk because i spilled my drink on my desk
L323[12:03:05] <payonel> :|
L324[12:03:09] <Inari> Heyyy my project kind of sorta is at a baseline. But it's slow \o/
L325[12:03:15] <jrddunbr> I don't have any .so files in any of my older servers
L326[12:03:41] <Inari> Generating 20x20 pixels shoudn't take 40+ seconds :D
L327[12:03:41] <jrddunbr> ...and opencomputers didn't complain then
L328[12:04:07] <jrddunbr> I suppose I nabbed a newer version that tells you now
L329[12:04:53] <Mimiru> OC has had that notice since.... a REALLLLY long time
L330[12:05:20] <jrddunbr> I'm using 1.7.10 rn
L331[12:05:50] <jrddunbr> and I hadn't updated the jars in over a year for my little server
L332[12:06:08] <Mimiru> it's had the notice in since OC version 1.2 I know
L333[12:07:22] <jrddunbr> hmm. Anyways, it doesn't work. Perhaps I should grab a new jar and try that?
L334[12:07:41] <fingercomp> @jrddunbr what's your server's CPU architecture?
L335[12:07:55] <jrddunbr> x86_64, AMD buldozer I believe
L336[12:08:06] <jrddunbr> running Lua something
L337[12:08:27] <Vexatos> It has had that warning ever since I remember, at least
L338[12:09:31] <jrddunbr> I'm running OpenOS 1.7.2 with Lua 5.2 ingame
L339[12:10:59] <Inari> Seems the Bignum lib eats all the time :<
L340[12:12:18] <payonel> jrddunbr the natives should be in the root of your world folder, whilst the server is running
L341[12:12:46] <payonel> look for OpenComputersMod-*-lua53-native.64.so
L342[12:12:54] <payonel> not literally that, the * is for the version
L343[12:13:30] <jrddunbr> yea
L344[12:13:59] <jrddunbr> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/pofesaduhe
L345[12:14:15] <payonel> OH SORRY
L346[12:14:19] <payonel> i said world folder
L347[12:14:19] <jrddunbr> None of that is what we want
L348[12:14:20] <payonel> i didn't mean that
L349[12:14:29] <payonel> i meant the root of the instance
L350[12:14:33] <jrddunbr> oh.
L351[12:15:03] <jrddunbr> there's no .so files in the folder above the actual world folder
L352[12:15:15] <payonel> next to the forge jar?
L353[12:15:19] <payonel> at that level?
L354[12:15:20] <jrddunbr> none
L355[12:15:22] <payonel> is the world running?
L356[12:15:27] <jrddunbr> Yes
L357[12:15:57] <payonel> can you paste the ./logs/fml-junk-earlystartup.log
L358[12:16:47] <jrddunbr> http://termbin.com/vlrv
L359[12:17:35] <payonel> that has nothing helpful :/
L360[12:17:47] <payonel> my earlystartup has a lot more info
L361[12:18:14] <payonel> grep for 'native library' in your logs
L362[12:18:49] <jrddunbr> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/damagovahi
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L364[12:19:41] <jrddunbr> was in fml-server-1.log
L365[12:20:01] <jrddunbr> well, fml-server-*.log (there were 3 of them)
L366[12:20:30] <jrddunbr> 4 actually. there's a fml-server-latest.log
L367[12:21:26] <payonel> @jrddunbr can you enable logFullNativeLibLoadErrors in our opencomputers config?
L368[12:21:30] <payonel> then start the server again
L369[12:21:44] <jrddunbr> I just thought of something. Does that get extracted by the server on startup?
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L371[12:21:55] <payonel> jrddunbr yes
L372[12:22:01] <jrddunbr> For some reason, the directory was not owned by the server.
L373[12:22:09] <payonel> that's why i asked if the world was running
L374[12:22:17] <jrddunbr> so if a file wasn't in logs or config or world it wouldn't be able to touch it
L375[12:22:24] <payonel> correct
L376[12:22:49] <jrddunbr> I just restarted the server with correct permissions on the root directory
L377[12:23:05] <jrddunbr> ... there's a .so file there now
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L379[12:23:10] <payonel> tada
L380[12:23:25] <jrddunbr> Message gone! thanks ?
L381[12:23:29] <payonel> you're welcome :)
L382[12:23:39] <jrddunbr> tl;dr user error.
L383[12:23:42] <payonel> nah
L384[12:23:45] <payonel> we do weird things
L385[12:23:47] <payonel> :)
L386[12:24:11] <jrddunbr> yea. I did it mostly as a security thing at the time, but it's inside another folder, so things are less likely to break out.
L387[12:24:21] <AmandaC> On one hand, that might be something worth reporting, on the other, the user would probably notice MC itself bitching and moaning when trying to save the world files.
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L389[12:24:45] <payonel> AmandaC: the ./world/ was permissioned for mc, but not ./
L390[12:24:48] <payonel> and oc needs write perm to ./
L391[12:24:49] <jrddunbr> I had specifically allowed it only to touch the world and the log folders. Bit too locked down it turns out
L392[12:24:49] <AmandaC> ah
L393[12:25:23] <jrddunbr> May want to document that somewhere for the next person, but I'd make the assumption that it's a pretty rare case
L394[12:25:38] <payonel> @jrddunbr common for us *nix users, though
L395[12:25:43] <jrddunbr> yea
L396[12:25:44] <payonel> you're not the first to hit this
L397[12:26:09] <payonel> well, not COMMON but...not unique
L398[12:26:40] <jrddunbr> generally, the way I run things is I set up the server on my computer, and then set it up on the server with reduced permissions once I've run it once. I suppose I either forgot the .so files, or they didn't need to be extracted on my laptop for some reason.
L399[12:27:10] <jrddunbr> that way, if someone breaks out of Minecraft they don't own the server jar or anything.
L400[12:27:12] <payonel> @jrddunbr they are removed on shutdown
L401[12:27:18] <jrddunbr> mm ok
L402[12:27:26] <jrddunbr> I let it have the folder so it shouldn't be a problem
L403[12:27:26] <payonel> it's not entirely expected, i thought they weren't
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L405[12:27:32] <payonel> yeah
L406[12:28:34] <jrddunbr> I suppose if I really care, I put the executable jar elsewhere, and then tell it that it has a different working directory. Not a big concern for me though,.
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L408[12:28:42] <payonel> @jrddunbr you new to oc?
L409[12:28:55] <jrddunbr> Ehh, not exactly. Just spinning up a new server though for the summer
L410[12:29:07] <jrddunbr> I have some of my stuff on GitHub under the same username
L411[12:29:24] <jrddunbr> I try to write as little Lua as possible though ?
L412[12:29:41] <jrddunbr> ... would love a Python arch
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L415[12:29:54] <payonel> Webchat_53573: /j
L416[12:30:13] <payonel> jrddunbr because of the editor and in-game experience or because lua?
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L418[12:30:46] <jrddunbr> The edit program is actually fine. I do tend to up the defaults in the config though, they are a bit underpowered. Once you do that, they become much more responsive.
L419[12:31:01] <jrddunbr> although, having a Git card would be neat ?
L420[12:31:14] <payonel> up the defaults? such as?
L421[12:31:21] <jrddunbr> uh.. let me see
L422[12:31:33] <payonel> jrddunbr this is quite relevant, i'm redoing edit :|
L423[12:31:57] <jrddunbr> Friend of mine wrote a basic Vim for OC/CC
L424[12:32:13] <AmandaC> payonel = OpenOS maintainer
L425[12:32:17] <jrddunbr> https://github.com/Grissess/cc-progs/blob/master/programs/vim
L426[12:33:03] <jrddunbr> I upped the callBudgets to 4,8,12 from ???
L427[12:33:55] <jrddunbr> more threads
L428[12:34:08] <payonel> jrddunbr i'm talking about edit's configs
L429[12:34:11] <payonel> you didn't change those?
L430[12:34:19] <jrddunbr> No, just the actual config for the mod
L431[12:34:23] <payonel> ah ok cool
L432[12:34:26] <jrddunbr> yea
L433[12:34:32] <jrddunbr> I don't tend to touch the OS much.
L434[12:35:24] <jrddunbr> also, `edit` has configs? Hmm
L435[12:35:34] <jrddunbr> is there like a .editrc?
L436[12:36:40] <payonel> it just for some hotkeys
L437[12:37:04] <payonel> when you run edit where /etc is rw, it saves /etc/edit.cfg
L438[12:39:11] <jrddunbr> hmm
L439[12:41:39] <jrddunbr> I woudn't change anything. I just have bad habbits and try to use Vim keybinds all the time.
L440[12:41:53] <jrddunbr> Like, I'll press ESC and instead I'll exit the screen entirely
L441[12:42:32] <jrddunbr> I almst feel like L Shift would be more appropriate, like minecarts and such, but then I can't use shift :/
L442[12:42:34] <payonel> i use vi everyday (not my main editor, but i ssh all the time)
L443[12:42:39] <payonel> and i cannot stand vi :)
L444[12:42:47] <Temia> Oh, huh. The P8X console dev tools include a retronitus example project.
L445[12:42:51] <payonel> i simply cannot understand how that is normal muscle memory behavior for ppl
L446[12:42:52] <jrddunbr> what editor do you use otherwisE?
L447[12:43:07] <payonel> jrddunbr vscode
L448[12:43:16] <jrddunbr> I mean, the keys I use are i, w, q, ! and /
L449[12:43:30] <jrddunbr> beyond that, I use like none of the features of Vim.
L450[12:43:42] <jrddunbr> also, vi can be a bit weird sometimes. Vi /= Vim all the time
L451[12:43:56] <payonel> well when i say vi i mean vim
L452[12:44:02] <jrddunbr> ok
L453[12:44:07] <payonel> and also, i dont know what i'm talking about
L454[12:44:21] <payonel> so keep that in mind
L455[12:44:54] <jrddunbr> *helps develop major minecraft mod* *says they don't know what they're doing*
L456[12:45:43] * payonel shrugs
L457[12:47:46] <jrddunbr> lol ?
L458[12:48:13] <payonel> there are some things i know well
L459[12:48:31] <payonel> but my opinion of vi is based on a painfully ignorant perspective
L460[12:48:50] <jrddunbr> yea
L461[12:52:28] <jrddunbr> I was trying to figure out why I recognize your username. I realized it's from when I posted the issue about Minechem
L462[12:53:17] <payonel> ah look, that's marked for 1.7.3
L463[12:53:18] <payonel> :)
L464[12:53:19] <jrddunbr> specifcially, 2665.
L465[12:53:24] <payonel> aye
L466[12:53:32] <jrddunbr> No rush on that, just wanted to do some hacky stuff ?
L467[12:53:35] <jrddunbr> that mod is SO OP
L468[12:54:06] <jrddunbr> A friend and I wanted to make *every* element and material using just a computer terminal. Think replicator from Star Trek
L469[12:54:35] <payonel> well, someone asked that /bin/edit support more of the terminal's hotkeys
L470[12:54:57] <payonel> which, when i got around to it ... i decided it was best to refactor the tty layer for a 4th time
L471[12:55:36] <payonel> extracted the "cursor" as a library entirely on its own, and now i'm making a brand new edit program that leverages the cursor lib
L472[12:55:49] <payonel> so basically, "can we have terminal hotkeys in edit" became 3 months of work
L473[12:56:01] <jrddunbr> heh
L474[12:56:15] <jrddunbr> as is life with bigger software projects I have come to discover
L475[12:57:42] <fingercomp> payonel: when you're done breaking things in OpenOS, could you create wiki pages for tty and cursor, please?
L476[12:58:28] <payonel> fingercomp: well tty, no
L477[12:58:30] <payonel> for cursor, yes
L478[12:58:31] <payonel> :)
L479[12:58:39] <payonel> i dont want tty to be an api, that's what term is for
L480[12:58:54] <payonel> i need to be free to break and redo tty at least 10k more times
L481[12:59:11] <payonel> but definitely for cursor
L482[13:01:32] <Vexatos> OpenOS is 10k lines of code right now, huh
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L485[13:18:41] <Forecaster> %loot
L486[13:18:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a set of assorted wires.
L487[13:22:20] <jrddunbr> That's a good deal
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L489[13:26:19] <Wuerfel_21> Temia: if it didn't, porting stuff is usually a matter of changing pin numbers
L490[13:26:39] <Temia> Yeah, that's what I was considering as an option too
L491[13:27:25] <Temia> Honestly, I might play around with using a different CPU in the kit though, maybe see if I can squeeze the Retronitus into one of the GPU cogs
L492[13:27:55] <Wuerfel_21> there is a speech synth object, too. There was a neat video on it at some point...
L493[13:29:27] <Wuerfel_21> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAAlE_G8_SI
L494[13:29:28] <MichiBot> ROBOTIC SINGING VOICE & KARAOKE KODE on Parallax Propeller | length: 43s | Likes: 11 Dislikes: 2 Views: 5,956 | by VironCybernet | Published On 13/4/2009
L495[13:36:03] <Forecaster> Fancy
L496[13:36:04] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y9zef9oa
L497[13:37:57] <Wuerfel_21> EGS in the background?
L498[13:38:07] <Forecaster> yep
L499[13:38:16] <Wuerfel_21> good taste
L500[13:43:32] <AmandaC> %choose tune in late or no
L501[13:43:32] <MichiBot> AmandaC: tune in late
L502[13:46:38] <Wuerfel_21> MichiBot can see into the future http://tinyurl.com/ydd9sley
L503[13:47:59] <Forecaster> yeah, because of the delay in the webhook sometimes messages arrive in the wrong order
L504[13:48:18] <Wuerfel_21> boring
L505[13:48:44] <Wuerfel_21> i say MichiBot has a FTL connection
L506[13:49:46] <Mimiru> Eh.. it happened without the webhook too
L507[13:50:05] <Forecaster> but not very often because I don't remember it happening that often
L508[13:50:12] <Forecaster> and my memory is 100% flawless
L509[13:50:28] <Mimiru> it happened often enough that I caught it more than once, and I'm rarely on discord.
L510[13:50:37] <Mimiru> :P
L511[13:50:46] <Forecaster> Impossible! D:
L512[14:22:40] <Dudblockman> I like the idea of time travel more than delays
L513[14:22:44] <Dudblockman> Make it so.
L514[14:26:24] <Forecaster> %lootbox
L515[14:26:24] <MichiBot> Forecaster: You get a loot box! It contains a dropbox account with zero capacity.
L516[14:34:55] <ben_mkiv> %lootbox
L517[14:34:55] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: You get a loot box! It contains a geode.
L518[14:35:26] <ben_mkiv> https://www.cristal-passion.com/en/upload/geode4.jpg-e3feqcxx-Pxwww5qK.jpg
L519[14:35:33] <ben_mkiv> actually pretty nice
L520[14:36:03] <ben_mkiv> %shell geode
L521[14:36:03] * MichiBot loads a parallaxed Temia into a shell and fires it. It strikes geode. They take 7 damage. AmandaC and gamax92 stood too close and take 5 and 3 damage respectively.
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L524[14:49:43] <gerard> %lootbox
L525[14:49:43] <MichiBot> gerard: You get a loot box! It contains a broken .tif.
L526[14:50:19] <gerard> does lootboxes actually have working files?
L527[14:50:22] <gerard> or are they all broken
L528[14:50:28] <Forecaster> who knows
L529[14:50:39] <gerard> Well I know in a little moment
L530[14:50:43] <Corded> * <gerard> intensive %lootbox spamming
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L533[15:16:22] <AmandaC> -c
L534[15:19:20] <AmandaC> %loot
L535[15:19:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: You get a loot box! It contains a pencil.
L536[15:19:40] * AmandaC chews on the pencil
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L548[17:09:27] <AmandaC> %tell Inari No fair! You ran away before I could trap you! D:
L549[17:09:28] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L554[19:39:28] <Mimiru> ugh... right
L555[19:39:34] <SF-MC> %loot
L556[19:39:34] <MichiBot> SF-MC: You get a loot box! It contains a lootcrate.
L557[19:39:41] <SF-MC> That's _awesome_
L558[19:39:44] <Mimiru> jenkins failed after the upgrade last night
L559[19:39:45] <SF-MC> %loot
L560[19:39:45] <MichiBot> SF-MC: You get a loot box! It contains a box full of worms.
L561[19:39:46] * Mimiru sighs
L562[20:05:00] <gerard> %loot
L563[20:05:00] <MichiBot> gerard: You get a loot box! It contains a piece of cloth.
L564[20:08:17] * AmandaC drops a chewed up pencil infront of Mimiru, to try and console her
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L567[22:09:04] <Kodos> Anyone know if OC works with Adv Rocketry at all
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L571[23:02:36] <Temia> %loot
L572[23:02:36] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a loot box! It contains a napkin with scribbles on it.
L573[23:02:59] <Mimiru> %loot
L574[23:02:59] <MichiBot> Mimiru: You get a loot box! It contains a tiny bag of catnip.
L575[23:04:13] * Temia obtains the Mystery Blueprints!
L576[23:05:15] * Temia goes to trade them with the eccentric inventor for her Autosprinkler
L577[23:05:49] * Temia goes to the fatigued farmer and trades for his Old Watering Can
L578[23:06:37] * Temia takes it to the Dried-out Dryad and pours it on her, receiving the Sylvan Heart in gratitude!
L579[23:07:53] * Temia gains the power of the fey, allowing her to double-jump on gossamer wings c:
L580[23:08:18] <Mimiru> lol..
L581[23:08:46] <Temia> Don't forget to do your fetch quests!
L582[23:09:05] * Temia hops and flutters c:
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L584[23:12:21] <Temia> %loot
L585[23:12:22] <MichiBot> Temia: You get a loot box! It contains a knight who says ni.
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