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L3[00:07:53] <Mimiru> Test
L4[00:08:02] <Mimiru> Ok.. atleast I've not
broken them so meh
L5[00:09:57] <Kodos> What are you breaking
now
L6[00:11:37] <Mimiru> Some of the new
Discord avatars were hard to read cause of light pastels with white
font
L7[00:12:14] <Mimiru> so I.. I was TRYING to
make the generator darken super light backgrounds a bit... but when
that failed, LOTS I said fuck it and just made the light
backgrounds have black font
L10[00:13:04] <Mimiru> it's black
there
L11[00:13:27] <Mimiru> aaand I broke
it
L12[00:13:28] <Mimiru> lol
L13[00:14:38] <Mimiru> There, and now it's
white
L14[00:14:45] <Mimiru> and some of them are
even harder
L15[00:27:02] <Mimiru> Bleh, seems your
nick was still one of those that was too light to be seen but too
dark to be effected Kodos
L16[00:27:10] <Mimiru> so tweaked the
script.. and it works better I hope.
L17[00:35:13] <Saphire> How nick colour is
determined?
L18[00:35:22] <Kodos> Random
L19[00:35:26] <Mimiru> Great question, glad
you asked!
L20[00:35:29] <Mimiru> it's actually
not.
L21[00:35:34] <Kodos> Oh, wait, nvm I
misinterpreted
L22[00:35:41] <Mimiru> function
stringToColorCode($str) {
L23[00:35:41] <Mimiru> $code =
dechex(crc32($str));
L24[00:35:41] <Mimiru> $code =
substr($code, 0, 6);
L25[00:35:41] <Mimiru> return $code;
L27[00:35:57] <Saphire> I want pink and
blue <.<
L28[00:36:04] <Mimiru> No
L29[00:36:05] <Mimiru> :D
L30[00:36:07] <Saphire> Aw
L31[00:36:19] <Saphire> I'll give you a
cent! Every month!
L32[00:36:21] <Mimiru> I don't get to PICK
colors, but it's not "random"
L33[00:36:35] <Mimiru> it's generated from
your nick.
L34[00:36:50] *
Saphire nods
L35[00:37:05] <Saphire> Still, now we can
finally ping IRC users? Or not?
L36[00:37:13]
<Saphire>
@Mimiru#0000 right?
L37[00:37:21] <Saphire> Aw :<
L38[00:37:28] <Saphire> Darn mobile
L39[00:37:32] <Mimiru> o_O
L40[00:37:49] <Saphire> Hmm?
L41[00:37:57] <Mimiru> Well.. you've always
been able to ping IRC users.
L42[00:38:19] <Saphire> I mean, by
mentioning them discord native way
L43[00:38:28] <Mimiru> Oh.. no?
L44[00:38:42] <Mimiru> Also.. did that
message just get eaten.. or what
L45[00:38:53] <Mimiru> %p
L46[00:38:54] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Mimiru 0.32s
L47[00:38:57] <Mimiru> Hmm
L48[00:39:06] <Saphire> %p
L49[00:39:08] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Saphire 1.78s
L50[00:39:17] <Saphire> Discord seems to
have problems a bit?
L51[00:39:21] <Mimiru> Did Discord
die?
L52[00:39:24] <Mimiru> or the bridge?
L53[00:40:16] <Saphire> Discord it
seems
L54[00:40:23] <Saphire> Can't connect on
mobile
L55[00:40:26] <Mimiru> Well... that's
"something"
L56[00:40:39] <Saphire> Ah back
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L60[00:42:33] <Mimiru> Test
L61[00:42:41] <Mimiru> k then.
L62[00:43:24] <Mimiru> Anyway... no? I
didn't change anything on pings...
L63[00:43:27]
<Forecaster>
o.o
L64[00:47:09] <Xal> crc32 isn't a
cryptographic hash... you /could/ brute-force your nick to get the
colour you wanted
L65[00:48:15] <Xal> if you append four
bytes to the output you can force your crc32 to be pretty much
anything
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L71[02:17:42]
<Forecaster>
%shell
L72[02:17:42] *
MichiBot loads max floof into a shell and fires it. It strikes
Michiyo. They take 21 damage. Skye and Mimiru stood too close and
take 19 and 15 damage respectively.
L73[02:17:51]
<Forecaster>
woops
L74[02:26:31]
<Forecaster>
hrm, probably shouldn't be able to both directly and indirectly hit
the same target :P
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L76[03:21:03]
<Forecaster>
%inv add Inari 2 Remastered HD
L77[03:21:03] *
MichiBot summons 'Inari 2 Remastered HD' and adds to her inventory.
This seems rather fragile...
L78[03:22:25] <Inari> Heh
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L81[03:53:19] <Izaya> heard about that
:D
L82[03:53:22] <Izaya> we loonix now
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L85[04:14:29] <Inari> The title sounds
misleading from what I heard
L86[04:14:56] <Inari> At least the article
notes that Nintendo can do something :p
L87[04:15:03] <Inari> Just not to already
shipped consoles
L89[04:23:40] <Skye> Izaya: not cute.
:p
L90[04:27:16] <Inari> sushigirl, eh?
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L94[04:39:13]
<Forecaster>
%shell scaryface
L95[04:39:14] *
MichiBot loads free coupons into a shell and fires it. It strikes
the ground near scaryface, ashka and erratic. They each take 3, 6
and 4 splash damage respectively.
L96[04:39:15] *
MichiBot Free coupons was shiny enough to be claimed by a
dragon..
L97[05:10:26]
<gdude>
Still no sign of Greaser, I guess
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L100[05:51:53]
<Forecaster>
hah
L101[06:08:03] <AmandaC> gamax92: I tried
to warn you!
L102[06:12:45] <Inari> gamax did OD?
:p
L103[06:14:15] <AmandaC> Inari: it seems
so
L104[06:14:21] <Inari> Hehe
L105[06:14:54]
<Forecaster>
gamax overdosed on coding?
L106[06:15:09] <AmandaC> On
wholesomeness
L107[06:15:27] <Izaya> how do you manage
that
L108[06:16:11] <Inari> By binging
yurucamp
L109[06:16:16] <AmandaC> Izaya: Yuru Camp
has very high levels of wholesomeness per episode
L110[06:16:34] *
Izaya squints
L111[06:16:47] <Izaya> Is that something
to do with Yuru Yuri?
L112[06:18:51] <Inari> Nop
L114[06:20:13]
<Forecaster>
%shell Nop
L115[06:20:13] *
MichiBot loads dango into a shell and fires it. It strikes the
ground near Nop, tehbeard and Aedda. They each take 23, 21 and 24
splash damage respectively.
L116[06:20:48] <Inari> dango~ dango~
dango~ dango~ dango daikazoku~
L117[06:22:34]
<Forecaster>
%moo ^
L118[06:22:34] <MichiBot> dangoo~ dangoo~
dangoo~ dangoo~ dangoo daikazookoo~
L119[06:26:00] <Inari> :p
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L122[06:58:41] <Izaya> asp explorer
L123[07:01:10] <Inari> %fling Izaya
L124[07:01:10] *
MichiBot flings WorldGourd in a random direction. It hits Izaya on
the arm. They take 19 damage.
L125[07:01:16] <Inari> %inv list
L127[07:07:03] <Izaya> "Route
plotting failed" RIP
L128[07:07:36] <Izaya> 44.61Ly jump range
and it's still not enough
L129[07:07:41] <Izaya> guess I'll have to
strip more stuff off
L130[07:08:01]
<Forecaster>
%inv add route that failed to plot
L131[07:08:01] *
MichiBot summons 'route that failed to plot' and adds to her
inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L132[07:08:08] <Izaya> that or blow heaps
of money on an exploraconda
L133[07:08:42]
<Forecaster>
only if you name it that
L134[07:08:59] <Izaya> hardly an original
name
L135[07:10:56] <AmandaC> %tell ben_mkiv
Still getting the error with a fresh sheep and just the OC
interface. seems that you might not be implementing getStack for
your Slot subclasss, as that's the abstract method that's getting
called, I suspect.
L136[07:10:56] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
ben_mkiv will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L138[07:13:32] <Izaya> yeah I'm gonna need
to spend more resources on getting lighter components
L139[07:18:37]
<gerard>
Honestly, I don't get Minecraft Modding
L140[07:18:50] <Arcan> What is there not
to get about it?
L141[07:18:54]
<gerard> I
rage quitted, exited IntelliJ, removed .idea, imported
build.gradle
L142[07:18:55]
<gerard> and
it works
L143[07:18:59] <Arcan> lol
L144[07:19:44]
<gerard> I
wanted to try something out, making a new architecture for OC with
Kotlin
L145[07:20:11]
<gerard> And
with Kotlin Multi platform, that you can also run it in the
browser
L146[07:20:22]
<gerard> but
that works now. yay.
L147[07:25:12]
<gerard>
nvm, java doesn't compile now
L148[07:25:15]
<gerard> so
close
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L153[08:02:32]
<Forecaster>
it's mostly magic
L154[08:20:23]
<Forecaster>
Izaya the names don't have to be original :P
L155[08:25:26] <Temia> Dango?
L156[08:25:48] *
Temia unleashes the acting viceroy of Doma on Inari!
L157[08:26:14] <Inari> The viceroy of what
now?
L159[08:32:56] <Arcan> Izaya: noice
L160[08:33:51] <Izaya> they didn't like
it
L161[08:34:44] <Arcan>
understandable
L162[08:35:00] <Arcan> i know some people
who play E:D like W40K
L163[08:35:50] <Izaya> thargoids are less
friendly than I remember
L164[08:36:26] <Izaya> at one point I
warped in in a dolphin, honked at the thargoid ship, blinked
'hello' in morse code with my headlights and it made a weird noise
and left
L165[08:37:22] <Arcan> huh
L166[08:38:13] <Izaya> this was only like
3 months ago too
L167[08:38:19] <Izaya> hell i have a video
of it somewhere
L168[08:38:31]
<gerard>
"With Kotlin 1.2, common modules don't generate binaries (like
.class files), only metadata files. This is true even if you don't
use the expect keyword anywhere."
L169[08:38:34]
<gerard>
Thanks Blizzard
L170[08:39:01] <Izaya> of course x_x I
have a video of it, but the URL points to the wrong thing
L171[08:39:15]
<gerard>
main.kotlin.srcDirs += 'src/kotlin'
L172[08:39:15]
<gerard>
main.kotlin.srcDirs += '../oc32-common/src/kotlin'
L173[08:39:22]
<gerard> ez
(hacky) fix
L174[08:42:17]
<Forecaster>
Izaya that looked like it went well :P
L175[08:42:23] <Izaya> very
L176[08:42:32] <Izaya> I got it on video
so I'm happy
L177[09:49:48] *
Temia flops
L178[09:49:52] <Temia> Blah.
L179[09:50:33] <Temia> The propeller's
LQFP package just assigns the extra 4 pins to another pair of power
and ground pins each. There's literally no advantage to it.
=3=
L180[09:51:02] <Temia> Well, except
smaller form factors and being able to put square heatsinks on
them.
L181[09:53:41] ***
unasploded is now known as unascribed
L182[09:55:14] *
Izaya places a square heatsink on Temia's head
L183[09:56:05] *
Temia mu '^'
L184[09:56:11] *
gamax92 adds a fan on Temia's heatsink
L185[09:56:13] *
Temia tries to unstick it
L186[09:56:17] <Izaya> you're now 20%
cooler
L187[09:56:29] *
Temia TRIES TO PULL IT OFF
L188[09:56:54] <Temia> WHAT DID YOU USE TO
ADHERE THIS, EPOXY!? ;_;
L189[09:57:06] <Izaya> uuuuh
L190[09:57:44] <Izaya> $2 "high
stability thermal paste"
L191[09:58:42] <Izaya> I guess it was very
stable.
L192[09:59:08] <Temia> aaaaaaaaaa
;A;
L193[10:06:42]
<Forecaster>
You just need some alcohol to get rid of that probably
L194[10:07:51] *
gamax92 gives Temia a glass of wine
L195[10:08:06] <Izaya> Red or white?
L196[10:10:11] <gamax92> red
L197[10:13:23]
<20kdc>
%tell AmandaC KittenOS NEO R2 should be around about ready for
release once bugs are gone. File dialogs & the task manager are
now resizable, BTW. DL at the usual -dev address
L198[10:13:23] <MichiBot> 20kdc: AmandaC
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L199[10:14:35] <AmandaC> @20kdc, gamax92:
Don't really need to %tell me, I get pings even when I'm not here
as android notifications
L200[10:14:55] <AmandaC> @20kdc nice, does
thta fix the s/perm/app/ thing in sys-icecap as well?
L201[10:15:22]
<20kdc> yes,
that got fixed
L202[10:15:23] <gamax92> oh I only did a
tell cause I knew you were asleep at the time
L203[10:18:04] <AmandaC> @20kdc also, I'll
understand if it's just me with this problem, but I don't suppose I
could convince you to make the lines that don't have anything be
the same fg/bg colour as lines that do in the file picker? I always
get confused about what optionI have selected when it's the end
one
L204[10:18:29] <AmandaC> That is, the
empty slots with "~~~"
L205[10:18:48] *
Izaya names a file ~~~
L206[10:19:05] <AmandaC> Izaya: it'd not
be that ambiguous, as it'd show as "[F] ~~~"
L207[10:19:15] <AmandaC> ( and the ~~~ is
centerd)
L209[10:22:16] <AmandaC> I've gotten stuck
in a loop of opening the wrong drive, realising my mistake, then
opening the exact same wrong drive again on more than one
occasion
L210[10:24:54] <AmandaC> actually, making
the background be white and (on displays that support it) the
selected line have a blue bg would look pretty nice, IMHO
L211[10:26:47] <AmandaC> Oh, there's a
built-in app-wget now
L212[10:27:08] <AmandaC> I was genuinely
confused for a second because I didn't remember changing my
app-wget, and it looked different on the machine I installed the
dev on
L213[10:28:08] <AmandaC> aaand it
died.
L214[10:28:19] <AmandaC> @20kdc you forgot
to copy the yeilder function
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L217[10:31:39] <AmandaC> %oclogs
L219[10:33:20] <AmandaC> ( Wanted to make
sure my last few lines went through )
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L225[10:52:11] <ben_mkiv> MichiBot?
L226[10:52:16] <ben_mkiv> %tell
L227[10:52:16] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: Who
did you want to tell?
L228[10:52:30] <AmandaC> ohai
ben_mkiv
L229[10:52:31] <ben_mkiv> you should tell
me your queue ;_;
L230[10:52:38] <AmandaC> It PMs it once
you show activity
L231[10:52:49] <AmandaC> it NOTICEs you
when you log in
L232[10:53:05] <ben_mkiv> thanks
L233[10:53:20] <ben_mkiv> damnit... i
should stop doing software
L234[10:53:27] <ben_mkiv> sorry amanda
that must be frustrating xD
L235[10:53:38] <AmandaC> eh, mildly, but
not a big deal
L236[10:55:40] <ben_mkiv> looking into it
right now... wonder if its some mod of your setup thats doing
something to inventories
L237[10:56:38] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: I has
that thought, but I tried disabling the only two I caould think of
that would be probing inventory GUIs, and the crash still
happen
L238[10:56:51] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: if
you'd like I can package up the MultiMC instance for you to poke
about in
L239[10:57:03] <AmandaC> ( or, at least
the mods folder )
L240[10:57:16] <ben_mkiv> nah, dont worry
im going to download them on my own
L241[10:57:20] <AmandaC> kk
L242[10:57:24] <ben_mkiv> saved that
modlist from your crashreport before
L243[10:57:35] <AmandaC> I also tried
updating forge earlier, and it didn't seem to help
L244[10:57:51] <AmandaC> ( Was on the
latest starred release, tried the latest nightly from the 23rd
)
L245[10:58:33] <ben_mkiv> ok... yea i
spent an hour yesterday to ugprade my dev environment to new oc
release
L246[10:58:48] <ben_mkiv> as somehow
bauble api started to make trouble when compiling -.-
L247[10:58:48] <AmandaC> Also, I did some
testing and I can also reproduce it in a single-player creative
world
L248[10:59:07] <AmandaC> the stack trace
looked ~the same from a casual glance, too
L249[10:59:09] <ben_mkiv> ok, that makes
it way easier to debug
L250[10:59:58] <AmandaC> My process was
place fence, get sheep egg, get OE tool, get OC interface, place
sheep, use OE tool on sheep, place interface in the slot,
"home" -> "openComputers" ->
*crash(
L251[11:06:35] <ben_mkiv> finally...
L252[11:06:40] <ben_mkiv> %flip Idea
L253[11:06:40] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv:
(╯°□°)╯ɐǝpI
L254[11:07:12] <ben_mkiv> couldnt
reproduce crash in dev environment, but in normal
environment...
L255[11:08:08] <AmandaC> oh goodie, gotta
love those kinds of errors.
L256[11:09:15] <AmandaC> %choose
lilac/discovery or lilac-discovert
L257[11:09:15] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
lilac/discovery
L258[11:09:43] <Izaya> discovert
L259[11:10:40] <AmandaC> Hrm... I think
I'll make a svc-lilac-discovery instead, to avoid making svc-lilac
too big
L260[11:13:54] <Inari> gamax92: How much
of Yurucamp did you watch?
L261[11:17:26] <gamax92> just three
episodes
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L263[11:19:09] <Inari> gamax92: Hehe
L264[11:19:12] <Inari> gamax92: It's so
good
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L266[11:29:34] <ben_mkiv> ok found the
bug.... something im never going to understand
L267[11:30:01] <ben_mkiv> i have to copy
the method from the class im extending to my class, which should
actually lead to the same result
L268[11:30:03] <ben_mkiv> but
somehow....
L269[11:30:19] <ben_mkiv> it crashs when i
dont do that
L270[11:33:20] <ben_mkiv> also AmandaC you
are aware of the fact that your entity needs experience to host
tier2/tier3 stuff?!
L271[11:33:47] <ben_mkiv> so it needs an
experience interface, and you have to throw some bottles of
enchantment on your sheep :P
L272[11:33:53] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: was not
aware, no. but I'd hope without that it wouldn't crash
everything
L273[11:34:46] <ben_mkiv> fixed build is
uploaded, just waiting for approve
L274[11:35:12] <AmandaC> sure, thanks.:
)
L275[11:37:40] <ben_mkiv> and its approved
:)
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L278[11:59:15] <Inari> %inv add diachronic
shear
L279[11:59:15] *
MichiBot summons 'diachronic shear' and adds to her inventory. I
could get some good swings in with this.
L281[12:02:56]
<Forecaster>
I mlem you
L282[12:05:04] <Izaya> @20kdc In some
cases, DX12 actually causes a performance hit compared to
DX11.
L283[12:05:54] <payonel> xarses: the
cursor lib i think is 98% finalized
L284[12:06:31] <payonel> but i've learned
through experimentation that a couple of its internal fields
deserve public definition
L285[12:06:35] <Inari> payonel: Haha
:D
L286[12:07:08] <payonel> xarses: but those
fields happen to be 0-based array indices because yes, 0 based math
just makes more sense :) so if i'm going to make them
"public", i think i should redo all the maths to be
1-based
L287[12:07:13] <payonel> Inari: =D
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L290[12:09:07] *
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L291[12:14:43] <ben_mkiv> payonel, are
there tutorials about how to write addons for opencomputers?
L292[12:16:00] <payonel> besides the
comments in the code? not that i'm aware of
L293[12:16:11] <Vexatos> step 1: git
gud
L294[12:16:11] <payonel> Vexatos: ? (re
ben_mkiv's question)
L295[12:16:15] <Vexatos> step 2: read
other addon code probably
L296[12:16:42]
<Forecaster>
steal other peoples code!
L297[12:16:49] <ben_mkiv> :D
L298[12:17:00] <ben_mkiv> yea the api
documention is pretty good
L299[12:17:04]
<Forecaster>
everybody does it!
L300[12:17:13] <ben_mkiv> but also pretty
much if you start from scratch and dont know what you need
L301[12:17:31] <ben_mkiv> like i've just
read about that suggestion about thaumcraft6 support in oc...
L302[12:17:50] <ben_mkiv> that sounds like
a small addon for me... perhabs just some adapter driver?
L303[12:17:58] <ben_mkiv> -b+p
L304[12:18:24] <payonel> yeah,
perhabs
L305[12:18:37] <ben_mkiv> while this... i
know addons can add their own components, but can they also
register custom adapter drivers?
L307[12:20:38] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, its
about the new thaumcraft where the api may have changed
L308[12:21:24] <ben_mkiv> and if its
possible to outsource the integration
L309[12:21:35] <ben_mkiv> the current
implementation is part of oc afaik?!
L310[12:22:53] <ben_mkiv> wait, half of
the current stuff is already java oO
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L312[12:35:39] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: the OC
screen isn't updating ,also the sheep doesn't seem to want to
accept the levels I'm throwing at it
L313[12:36:22] <ben_mkiv> the range is
pretty low on lowest level, so i might increase the basic
distance
L314[12:36:29] <ben_mkiv> throw it on top
of the sheep for now :P
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L317[12:36:43] <ben_mkiv> and for not
updating screen... try if it works to move out screen of inventory
and put it back
L318[12:36:58] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv,
L319[12:37:09] <Vexatos> look at what that
is doing
L320[12:37:13] <Vexatos> the config
L321[12:37:20] <Vexatos> you can make
drivers of course, it's the main way to add mod integration
>_>
L322[12:37:22] <Vexatos> you just
shouldn't do it for certain mods
L323[12:37:24] <ben_mkiv> it disables
integrated drivers
L324[12:37:55] <ben_mkiv> well, i've never
messed with adapter drivers
L325[12:37:55] <Vexatos> TLDR don't make
OC integration for magic mods where it doesn't fit
L326[12:37:57] <Vexatos> like
thaumcraft
L327[12:38:36] <SquidDev> OpenPeripherals
had it :p.
L328[12:38:42] <Vexatos> OpenPeripherals
also did not care
L330[12:38:44] <Vexatos> a tiny bit
L331[12:38:53] <ben_mkiv> OC actually has
thaumcraft integration shipped
L332[12:39:02] <ben_mkiv> for minecraft
1.7.10
L333[12:39:06] <Vexatos> look
closely
L334[12:39:10] <Vexatos> it is not
actually doing anything
L335[12:39:15] <ben_mkiv> its able to read
vis
L336[12:39:20] <Vexatos> yes
L337[12:39:23] <Vexatos> and it is
disabled by default
L338[12:39:30] <ben_mkiv> ahhhhh, ok
L339[12:39:31] <Vexatos> Because it
shouldn't be a thing
L340[12:39:38] <AmandaC> @20kdc is
"Relable Disk" the currently selected option?/
L341[12:39:43]
<20kdc>
Yes
L342[12:39:46] <Vexatos> SquidDev,
Openperipherals also added the inventory driver to OC
L343[12:39:47] <ben_mkiv> think i gotcha
now :)
L344[12:39:53] <Vexatos> rendering the
transposer useless
L345[12:40:34] <AmandaC> @20kdc hrm. I
feel like that's somehow even less obvious. The black bg works well
enough when there's at least 3 items, but with only two it's a bit
confusing which is the active one because of the fact the extra
area is black as well
L346[12:40:36] <ben_mkiv> AmandaC, default
range for collecting XP is 1 block from sheep center. so the orbs
have to be very close
L347[12:40:45] <ben_mkiv> once the sheep
gathered some XP you can increase the range in the GUI
L348[12:40:49]
<20kdc>
AmandaC: alternatively I could change it to be more like the rest
of the system
L349[12:41:49] <AmandaC> @20kdc "more
like the rest of the system" how?
L351[12:41:57] <ben_mkiv> theres the
levels required for different tiers
L352[12:41:59]
<20kdc>
AmandaC: drafting now
L353[12:42:47] *
AmandaC queues up the crafting of 64 glass bottles, which she will
fill with experience and spam the sheep with
L354[12:42:59] <ben_mkiv> do it creative?!
:>
L355[12:43:23] <ben_mkiv> you already
spent time to fill bug reports :P
L356[12:43:26] <AmandaC> currently testing
on my server.
L357[12:43:27] <ben_mkiv> so it aint count
as cheating
L358[12:44:10] <AmandaC> and considering I
have 1.8K buckets of "Essence of Knowledge" from my mob
farm, I can spare some to fill a bunch of glass bottles
L360[12:44:37] <ben_mkiv> oh my deer you
are using this on a real world? :P
L361[12:44:42] <ben_mkiv> even i wouldnt
do that xD
L362[12:45:16] <AmandaC> I live
dangerously
L363[12:45:44] <AmandaC> and those 64
bottles either managed to all miss, or the state might not be
syncing from the server to my client properly
L364[12:45:51] <ben_mkiv> btw. did the
player.dat i've uplodaded fix your login issue?
L365[12:45:58] <AmandaC> yeah it did,
thanks for that. :)
L366[12:46:58] <ben_mkiv> yea, its pretty
low range.... should have changed that already
L367[12:47:04] <ben_mkiv> as i've run into
the same problem
L368[12:47:19] <ben_mkiv> but testing in
creative and focused on other stuff... things like that just pass
by
L369[12:48:52] <ben_mkiv> how about the
screen, did you get that to work by taking it out and in?
L370[12:51:18] <AmandaC> nope
L371[12:51:48] <AmandaC> It seemed to
update when I went up to fetch the filled experience bottles
though, but after that nothing. typing "reboot" properly
rebooted it though
L372[12:52:03] <AmandaC> ( just with no
screen updating)
L373[12:52:05] <ben_mkiv> try drag'n'drop
or shift + clicking item
L374[12:52:27] <ben_mkiv> when adding the
screen to the component inventory
L375[12:52:48] <ben_mkiv> also what tier
screen?
L376[12:54:48] <AmandaC> teir 1
L377[12:54:53] <AmandaC> I put teir 1
everything in it
L378[12:55:13] <ben_mkiv> hmm, how about
if you take server out and put back in
L379[12:55:27] <ben_mkiv> so that the
server gets added when all other components are already in the
inventory
L380[12:58:59] <AmandaC> nope
L381[12:59:50] <AmandaC> I finally got the
fucker to accept experience, though. shrunk it's pen to 1x1
L382[13:00:08] <AmandaC> The slider snaps
back to 1 when I try and move it though
L383[13:00:35] <ben_mkiv> try to click the
slider instead of moving it
L384[13:00:50] <ben_mkiv> improvise...
adapt... overcome xD
L385[13:01:03] <AmandaC> ah, clicking
works
L386[13:01:21] <ben_mkiv> i think i've
messed something up with the tier2/tier3 screen support
L387[13:02:42] <AmandaC> Put a T2
screen/GPU in, still nothing
L388[13:03:36] <ben_mkiv> going to start
my game to test
L389[13:03:46] <ben_mkiv> but cant compile
stuff right now, just started to sort my code xD
L390[13:04:55]
<20kdc>
AmandaC: I've fixed the file manager such that it looks mostly like
any other NeoUX application, even though it doesn't use NeoUX. This
probably has upsides and downsides.
L391[13:05:06]
<20kdc>
Also, app-wget fixed.
L392[13:05:14] <AmandaC> @20kdc got a
screenshot I can look at (re: file explorer )
L393[13:05:23] <AmandaC> ( or was -dev
updated and I'll poke myself )
L394[13:05:31]
<20kdc>
Both
L396[13:06:10] <ben_mkiv> AmandaC, taking
out the screen and putting it back in works for me as fix
L397[13:06:19] <ben_mkiv> you can even do
this while the computer is running
L398[13:06:25] <AmandaC> ben_mkiv: might
be a server thing then
L399[13:06:34] <ben_mkiv> right, i've just
tested SP now
L400[13:07:20] <AmandaC> @20kdc that looks
much better
L401[13:08:21]
<20kdc> I
should note, the selection covering both elements:
"<OK>[texthere]" implies it's both a button and a
textfield, so enter *does* trigger an action there
L402[13:09:08]
<20kdc> I
might in future have some convention like "<[]>"
and get rid of the use of "[]" for D/F types
L403[13:09:27] <AmandaC> @20kdc I'd
probably move the OK on the right, but that's just my personal
prefernce
L404[13:09:47] <AmandaC> also, app-wget
seems even more broken now, immediately crashes with "attempt
to compare function with number"
L405[13:10:03]
<20kdc>
...wait, really? flip
L406[13:11:04] <AmandaC> forgot the () in
neoux.create
L407[13:11:27] <AmandaC>
`neoux.create(doMainWin)` vs `neoux.create(doMainWin())`
L408[13:13:18]
<20kdc>
...ok, how about now
L409[13:13:24]
<20kdc> as
per usual, -dev updated
L410[13:14:57] <AmandaC> appears
good
L411[13:16:42] <AmandaC> alos, thanks for
the change to fm to save the file with the same name, that's super
helpful. :D
L412[13:20:55] <AmandaC> @20kdc, offtopic,
but I'm curious -- is it possible to provide virtual components by
doing a `requestAccess("r.c.foo")`?
L413[13:22:27]
<20kdc> no,
as "r." always becomes "x.", so you'd be
registering "x.c.foo". It'd require alteration in
init..lua to do otherwise. Maybe there could be
"svc-fuse"? ?
L414[13:22:43] <AmandaC> svc-fuse would be
nice.
L415[13:23:18]
<20kdc> (I
should note, that'd use root permission, and in general that
shouldn't be encouraged, but...)
L416[13:23:45] <AmandaC> Is there anything
stopping an app from requesting k.root?
L417[13:24:23]
<20kdc>
No.
L418[13:24:39] <AmandaC> Hrm. might toy
witht hat some in a bit then
L419[13:25:05] <AmandaC> I assume if I
have k.root I could then overwrite the component API much like
gamax92's vcomponent does?
L420[13:25:09]
<20kdc>
Yes.
L421[13:25:15]
<20kdc> I
should note what "k.root" actually is. Firstly, it
totally disables any security checks for your app, but also
disables service autostart.
L422[13:25:23]
<20kdc>
(Since that's handled as part of security policy.)
L423[13:25:35] <AmandaC> ah
L424[13:25:36] <gamax92> if you have
k.root can you reenable service autostart?
L425[13:25:49]
<20kdc>
gamax92: If you have k.root you can just start the service
yourself.
L426[13:26:11] <AmandaC> I assumed they
meant that the service wouldn't / couldn't be auto-started
L427[13:26:23]
<20kdc>
^
L428[13:26:40]
<20kdc> Keep
in mind, the effects are localized to your application.
L429[13:26:56]
<20kdc> So
if your application requests a service after gaining k.root,
service autostart will not work for that request,
L430[13:27:02] <AmandaC> oh wait, so you
meant a k.root app wouldn't trigger an au-- ah
L431[13:27:04]
<20kdc> but
other applications can still use service autostart.
L432[13:27:16]
<20kdc>
Including service autostart of your service.
L433[13:27:27] <AmandaC> I thought you
meant a k.root service cou;dn't be auto-started
L434[13:27:30]
<20kdc>
Nope.
L435[13:27:38]
<20kdc> It
can be auto-started.
L436[13:27:48]
<20kdc> It's
just that since your application no longer uses the security
policy, your application won't autostart other services.
L437[13:28:04]
<20kdc>
Anyway, as for the second thing. The actual contents of k.root is
the kernel global table,
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<20kdc>
which the kernel deliberately pollutes as much as possible to give
you as much access as possible.
L440[13:29:38]
<20kdc> The
only thing that is ever hidden from a k.root level app is the
original load function in the case of a bytecode enabled
situation.
L441[13:30:02]
<20kdc> A
k.root app can easily bypass this, but it's somewhat inconvenient
to do so, at least.
L442[13:30:10] <AmandaC> heh
L443[13:30:45] <AmandaC> I wasn't just
thinking of FUSE-type stuff, fwiw, I also thought of Izaya's
vtunnel thing
L444[13:30:59] <AmandaC> or emulating an
internet card over a modem
L445[13:31:35]
<20kdc> ...I
should also note - access to k.root, via the globals, gives you
full access to the security policy.
L446[13:32:17] <AmandaC> -c
L447[13:32:20] <AmandaC> er, ww
L448[13:32:56]
<20kdc>
Since the security policy function is a global function in the
kernel, which gets replaced by Icecap.
L449[13:33:14] <AmandaC> so, k.root = Game
over man, game over!
L450[13:33:30]
<20kdc> Yes.
That's why it's k.root, not k.totallySafePermission.
L451[13:33:37] <AmandaC> I figured as
much, which is why I wasn't sure if it was even grantable
L452[13:34:13]
<20kdc> It's
grantable because if the user really wants to go that far, they
should be allowed to. The only reason the in-case-of-emergency
bytecode restriction exists is because it has out-of-game
consequences.
L453[13:36:52] <AmandaC> .. huh
L454[13:39:34]
<20kdc>
...If the user was going to randomly accept any dialog box that
came up, KittenOS NEO stopping them wouldn't really change their
behavior, they'd just go back to an OS that doesn't ask
questions.
L455[13:41:08] <AmandaC> Sorry, the huh
was because I either broke my svc-lilac, or something's fucky with
the autostart
L456[13:41:29] <gamax92> I need to write a
file manager.
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L458[13:45:04] <AmandaC> @20kdc it seems
launching a second instance of something that uses an autostarted
service is causing the second instance of the app to not
start
L459[13:47:08]
<20kdc> that
would require that neo.usAccessExists(perm) is lying
L460[13:47:41]
<20kdc>
which is par for the course at this point
L461[13:49:18] <AmandaC> The second app's
process appears in taskmgr
L462[13:50:57]
<20kdc>
...or alternatively it could be me making another stupid control
structure mistake
L463[13:51:34]
<20kdc> how
many idiot lines do I have to write before I become not an
idiot
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L468[13:57:17] <AmandaC> oh, you already
uploaded a fix
L469[13:57:57]
<20kdc>
...doesn't work entirely
L470[13:58:04]
<20kdc>
causes more oddities, which I'm now resolving
L471[13:58:20]
<20kdc>
specifically accidental resurrection of security dialogs from
beyond the grave
L472[13:58:27] <AmandaC> heh
L473[13:59:10]
<20kdc>
which almost makes sense given the name of the test app,
"ghostie"
L474[13:59:21] <AmandaC> haha
L475[14:00:21]
<20kdc>
updated, including -dev
L476[14:02:52] <AmandaC> nice, confirmed
it works with my code
L477[14:05:13] <AmandaC> @20kdc the only
other comment I have about the current -dev is maybe in app-wget
"Confirm" should be "Download" instead
L478[14:07:23] <AmandaC> everything is
working pretty well under it in my base
L479[14:10:04]
<20kdc>
there is some additional software - nprt2018 and nbox2018 - from
the repository that you might want to test out
L480[14:10:10]
<20kdc> it
controls an OC 3D printer
L481[14:10:28] <AmandaC> I assume I'll
have to wget that to test?
L482[14:10:44]
<20kdc>
Yes.
L483[14:11:18]
<20kdc> When
R2 happens, it'll be downloadable via CLAW, but that hasn't
happened yet
L485[14:12:37]
<20kdc>
(...well, server.)
L486[14:13:40]
<20kdc> hmm,
should it be possible to Get outdated versions?
L487[14:19:00] <AmandaC> Well the nbox +
nprt works, though I'm a bit confused by nbox's ui
L488[14:21:50]
<20kdc> not
sure I can do much about that without it basically taking up the
entire 50x16 space
L489[14:26:29] <AmandaC> I figured it out,
was just confused by the mountian of text. :P
L490[14:28:56]
<20kdc> I'm
hoping the live 3D view is usable, 32x32 and slow as it is
L491[14:31:44] <AmandaC> @20kdc ... you
might want to define a texture by default
L492[14:32:06]
<20kdc>
suggestions?
L493[14:33:44] <AmandaC> well, no texture
at all causes the block to be invisible
L494[14:34:03] <AmandaC> sec, I'm getting
the texture id thing for smooth stone atm, just need to craft a
picket
L495[14:34:26] <AmandaC> picker*
L496[14:38:55] <AmandaC>
`minecraft:blocks/stone` according to the texture picker on my pack
on 1.12.2
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<20kdc> does
just "stone" work, too?
L500[14:44:31] <AmandaC> @20kdc is it
possible to modify existing shapes?
L501[14:44:48]
<20kdc> No,
but you can delete it and then add a new one
L502[14:45:20]
<20kdc>
given that you have to respecify coordinates anyway, I don't
foresee this being much of a difference
L503[14:45:48] <AmandaC> yes, just
"stone" works
L504[14:48:36] <AmandaC> The coordinates
also seem to work right. Drew a full-screen box and it's the size
of a full block once printed.
L505[14:49:10] <AmandaC> ( Not sure if
that was up for concern, I muyst have messed up a previous box
)
L506[14:49:42]
<20kdc> I
haven't changed anything regarding coordinates, so...
L507[14:49:57]
<20kdc> if
you see 0, 0, 0 / 16, 16, 16 then you have it right
L508[14:50:33]
<20kdc>
...sorry, 1, 1, 1 / 16, 16, 16
L509[14:50:55]
<20kdc>
though apparently the texturing screen says weird stuff.
oops.
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L512[15:00:02] <Inari> payonel: Haha, if
only :p
L513[15:01:40] <AmandaC> @20kdc syntax
error in latest commit
L514[15:01:49]
<20kdc>
...wait, really?
L515[15:02:04] <AmandaC> @20kdc line 236
expected } to close { on 233
L516[15:02:13]
<20kdc>
...and I forgot a comma
L517[15:02:19]
<20kdc> so
much for a trivial could not possibly go wrong text change
L518[15:02:38] <AmandaC> haha
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<20kdc>
...ok, now?
L521[15:18:50] <AmandaC> @20kdc it's not
syntax erroring anymore, but I'm running low on energy, so I'm
going to get off my laptop sometime shortly
L522[15:19:03] <Corded> * <20kdc>
nods
L523[15:20:12]
<20kdc>
stuff doesn't seem to be crashing, and it seems like you've somehow
managed to find a ridiculous amount of bugs, so I'm not sure if I
should hope there's no more and go release R2, or wait
L524[15:28:50] <AmandaC> %choose feels g
or feels s
L525[15:28:50] <MichiBot> AmandaC: feels
g
L526[15:29:06] <AmandaC> -> typos,
going to put the laptop away for the night
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L534[16:49:02] <AmandaC> %choose magic or
other
L535[16:49:02] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
other
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L539[17:41:03] <gamax92> %choose 8b or 4h
or fp or gg or vg dc
L540[17:41:04] <MichiBot> gamax92:
4h
L541[17:41:09] <gamax92> okay
L542[17:41:20] <gamax92> oh I messed up
the last two anyway
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L546[19:01:48] <gamax92> ahh eclipse, it's
been a while.
L547[19:09:42] <xarses> payonel:
oooo...
L548[19:09:56] <xarses> payonel: something
you want me to look at yet?
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L551[19:36:59] <Temia> Okay
L552[19:37:05] <Temia> That is as good as
the Sloppy one
L554[19:37:59] <MichiBot> Fri Nov 10
19:52:09 CST 2017 @SuperGWolf: This may have been done already but
no way in hell am I sorry for making it :V
https://t.co/4TIBc27vsV
L555[20:01:59] <S3> Izaya: fix my
bios!
L556[20:02:32] *
Izaya applies a lighter to it
L557[20:03:14] <S3> I keep getting 30 :
Setip Power Management
L559[20:06:58] <S3> Plug and Play BIOS
extensions\
L560[20:07:02] <S3> copyright 1993
L562[20:07:27] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L563[20:07:45] <AmandaC> payonel: ^
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L569[22:48:31] <AmandaC> %give MichiBot A
Tourist's Guide to Ignoring The Z-clipping on Public Transit in
First World Countries
L570[22:48:31] *
MichiBot accepts the Tourist's Guide to Ignoring The Z-clipping on
Public Transit in First World Countries and adds it to her
inventory
L571[22:52:05] <S3> HOLY SHIT
L572[22:52:18] <S3> I just met the first
person on my life who I think is absolutely crazy
L573[23:18:48] <Izaya> Oh?
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L578[23:24:43] <Temia> Only just
now?
L579[23:26:10] <S3> yeah so I went into
this tech channel and was like hey guys heres my problem I'm trying
to figure out and heres what I tried
L580[23:26:48] <S3> and all I dis was get
a 30 minute monologue of why hey guys is prejudice agaist
LGBT
L581[23:27:29] <Mimiru> Hi... as someone
who is 2 of the 4 letters of LGBT... that is SO much bullshit...
._.
L582[23:27:43] *
Mimiru grumbles
L583[23:27:59] <S3> I have plenty of
friends who are gay and one that transformed into a woman,
etc
L584[23:28:06] <S3> like, they never get
offended around me
L585[23:28:09] <S3> I literally don't
care
L586[23:28:31] <S3> but it's so disturbing
when people get so I don't know how to even describe it :(
L587[23:28:42] <S3> it's not limited to
this subject
L588[23:30:48] <CompanionCube> Ah, one of
*those* people
L589[23:31:02] <S3> Mimiru: they even
tangented a bit and started saying that holding doors for women is
a sign of power over them, when here where I live, girls and boys
hold doors for everyone regardless of gender as a sign of patience
and welcoming
L590[23:31:08] <S3> to initiate
socializing
L591[23:31:34] <CompanionCube> You should
ask if they have a tumblr. Betcha $100 they do :)
L592[23:31:41] <S3> hmmmm
L593[23:31:48] <S3> I dunno if I
dare
L594[23:32:09] <S3> The thing is these
people seem extremely intelligent and I fear they are using their
intelligence for unproductive things..
L595[23:33:21] <S3> like if you're
fighting to prevent domestic violence, homicide, etc against LGBT
and women then that's fine by me I'm all for that, but criticising
everyone for every word they say?!
L596[23:33:49] <S3> CompanionCube: I did
ask them if the next time I see a girl should I shut the door in
her face and tell her to find another way around
L597[23:34:24] <CompanionCube> S3: The
trap of becoming the monster one fights can be disturbingly common
with certain beliefs.
L598[23:35:06] <S3> What do you
mean?
L599[23:35:15] <S3> are you saying it's
related to religion?
L600[23:35:30] <S3> I'm curious what
Mimiru rgubjs
L601[23:35:35] <S3> thinks*
L602[23:35:42] <CompanionCube> nope. I
meant belief in the more general sense.
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L604[23:36:02] <S3> nobody I know right
this moment knows more about this crap than Mimiru
L605[23:36:17] <Temia> You'd be
surprised.
L606[23:36:27] <S3> Temia: on the top of
my head, I mean
L607[23:36:39] <Temia> You'd be
shocked!
L608[23:36:39] <S3> I mean I could always
consult my friends too :D
L609[23:37:07] <gamax92> rgub.js
L610[23:37:14] <S3> gamax92: rofl
L611[23:37:19] <S3> I typed like off
key
L612[23:37:28] <S3> I have been doing that
a lot lately
L613[23:37:30] <gamax92> you've created a
new library
L614[23:37:39] <S3> thatl be my next js
lib
L615[23:37:43] <S3> if I ever write
one
L616[23:38:18] <gamax92> moov atom not
found ;_;
L617[23:39:15] <S3> Temia: I've actually
taken classes in human sexuality and related stuff like that..
though, it's not a subject I really think about much
L618[23:39:31] <gamax92> I'll just finish
the day with one more and then add an extra one tomorrow, crappy
internet
L619[23:39:47] <S3> gamax92: FIX MY
486!
L620[23:39:52] <gamax92> whats wrong
L621[23:39:56] <S3> the bios is being a
poop :(
L622[23:40:00] <S3> it won't boot
L623[23:40:07] <gamax92> port
coreboot
L624[23:40:10] <Izaya> remove pnp
L625[23:40:31] <S3> it gets all the way to
the floppy drive testing and then spits out ISA intel PnP crap and
then halts without actually doing anything
L626[23:40:38] <S3> I have no idea-0 wait
there's a coreboot for 486 boards?
L627[23:40:47] <gamax92> I don't think so
hence "port"
L628[23:40:56] <S3> uh huh
L629[23:41:14] <S3> do you think that'd be
easier than writing my own BIOS from scratch? I have the VESA and
FDC datasheets
L630[23:41:18] <S3> they are very well
documented
L631[23:41:26] <gamax92> it'd be cool if
there were though, get rid of the lovely phoenix drive size
bug
L633[23:41:42] <S3> I had to disable my
hard drive controller
L634[23:41:53] <S3> because its phoenix
and says my 3GB drive is 17MB
L635[23:42:13] <S3> I figured it was
confusing it
L636[23:42:20] <Temia> Well, for the
record, I am one, probably two of the letters as well
L637[23:42:50] <Temia> Also, apropos of
nothing, sleepy.
L638[23:43:01] *
Temia faceplants. Zzzmoo
L639[23:43:18] <S3> Temia: afaik you are
Temia. Temia one of the cool people. That's all it ever has to be
:)
L640[23:43:49] <S3> Theres a lot of cool
people in here
L641[23:43:54] <S3> of all ages
L642[23:44:04] <S3> But I won't get into
that
L643[23:45:29] <gamax92> I had a drive
that happened to fall right into the bad cylinder range that causes
the bios to lock up
L645[23:49:39] <gamax92> If I could I'd
rather swap out the board for something that doesn't have that
buggy BIOS and buggy IDE chip
L646[23:50:09] <gamax92> S3: do you know
what IDE chip your board has?
L647[23:50:30] <S3> I'm really starting to
wonder if its worth sticking an EEPROM in there with my own
code
L648[23:51:10] <S3> but how do I know hat
I need, the bios choip appears to be unlabeled but covered with a
white sticker prob to protect the rom from UV
L649[23:51:21] <S3> assuming thats why the
sticker is there
L650[23:51:32] <S3> I can find out
L651[23:52:03] <S3> as in I can find the
IDE controller
L652[23:52:34] <S3> I only founf the video
chip sis vesa chipset and smc floppy disk controller
L653[23:52:38] <S3> so far
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