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L7[01:20:22] <Forecaster> %shell
L8[01:20:22] * MichiBot loads an apple into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near wolfmitchell, A_D and modmuss50. They each take 2, 4 and 2 splash damage respectively.
L9[01:20:23] * MichiBot The apple flickers and pops out of existence..
L10[01:29:38] <S3> to get this project done
L11[01:29:46] <S3> I cant take all nighters anymore
L12[01:30:06] <S3> so I ha ve been sleeping for 2 hours. working 2 hours, sleeping 2 hours, working 2 hours..
L13[01:30:11] <S3> until time for class
L14[01:30:14] <S3> then I come back home and sleep
L15[01:30:19] <S3> I think thatl work right?
L16[01:30:41] <S3> I think it may be a lot better for you than staying up all night
L17[01:30:44] <S3> not sure
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L19[02:10:17] <Forecaster> that sounds awful
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L22[03:06:46] <Forecaster> %juggle
L23[03:06:46] * MichiBot juggles with a love potion, SUPER HOT, & a borked regular expression
L24[03:06:47] * MichiBot drops a love potion which takes 5 damage, the love potion looked too much like a tooth and was claimed by the tooth-fairy..
L25[03:06:48] * MichiBot drops SUPER HOT which takes 4 damage
L26[03:06:49] * MichiBot drops a borked regular expression which takes 1 damage, the borked regular expression flies up into space and collides with a satellite..
L27[03:06:50] <MichiBot> Oops...
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L32[03:54:32] <Forecaster> %shell
L33[03:54:32] * MichiBot loads Constanze's stanbot into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near Techokami, zsh and dequbed. They each take 20, 16 and 18 splash damage respectively.
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L35[04:01:07] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L36[04:02:31] <Skye> %shell Forecaster
L37[04:02:31] * MichiBot loads Eris into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near Forecaster, Keridos and AngieBLD. They each take 18, 20 and 13 splash damage respectively.
L38[04:02:50] <Forecaster> %shell Skye
L39[04:02:50] * MichiBot loads charged staff into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near Skye, brandon3055 and bl0m1. They each take 6 (5+1), 6 (5+1) and 11 (10+1) splash damage respectively.
L40[04:03:10] <Skye> ~markov MichiBot
L41[04:03:11] <ocdoc> <Mimiru> Works like that opening my online persona is fully charged LiPo cell super-anticlimax. | length: 1m 36s | Likes: 38 Dislikes:
L42[04:03:23] <Skye> ~markov Forecaster
L43[04:03:23] <ocdoc> Umbra was before I had to use your enventory
L44[04:03:35] <Skye> ~markov Corded
L45[04:03:37] <ocdoc> lol sorry XD to be having connection
L46[04:03:47] <jackie> wow :P
L47[04:04:06] <jackie> ~markov Skye
L48[04:04:06] <ocdoc> My dad got isopropanol alcohol so you look at the same time you'd probably Scala or dislike my hugs...
L49[04:04:28] <Skye> Own up, who doesn't like my hugs?
L50[04:04:37] <Forecaster> %yoda ^
L51[04:04:37] <MichiBot> hugs? like doesn't who Own my up,
L52[04:05:39] <Skye> %yoda ^
L53[04:05:39] <MichiBot> like Own my up, who doesn't hugs?
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L56[04:10:47] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbIi-KlVMAAfMdK.jpg:large Ooh thats fairly cute
L57[04:12:50] <Vexatos> the text on the right is so offset it looks like bad CSS
L58[04:15:58] <Forecaster> inari: https://rocksychan.deviantart.com/art/Autumn-Melancholy-04-563019494
L59[04:16:10] <Inari> Cute :D
L60[04:17:55] <Inari> Could be a bit cuter if it was less stoic looking
L61[04:18:41] <Inari> I think the hair is the issue there
L62[04:19:11] <Inari> Going by some other pictures on her DA too - the wigs often look like having too much volume and such
L63[04:21:11] <Inari> https://img00.deviantart.net/67df/i/2016/237/3/6/military_maid_05_by_rocksychan-daf9drs.jpg Probably one of the better ones hair-wise
L64[04:21:47] <Skye> Inari, I got short shorts, thigh highs and a garter belt. It looks cute. :D
L65[04:22:00] <Inari> Hmm I don't like garter belts much personally
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L67[04:22:47] <Skye> Inari: it stops the thigh highs from falling
L68[04:22:54] <Inari> socks glue
L69[04:23:32] <Inari> Though i don't thiknt hey shoudl "fall" either way, morel ike, slide a bit around. But the scoks glue generally fixes that
L70[04:26:59] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/VSSnCPX heh
L71[04:30:26] * Izaya screams
L72[04:30:42] <Izaya> I was setting up my monitor stand
L73[04:30:47] <Izaya> I've lost a bolt
L74[04:30:53] <Izaya> I can't mount the main one.
L75[04:35:30] <Forecaster> ohno D:
L76[04:49:43] <Forecaster> %inv add monitor stand bolt
L77[04:49:44] * MichiBot summons 'monitor stand bolt' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L78[05:03:29] * Skye hugs Izaya
L79[05:46:11] <Forecaster> %shell the monitor stand
L80[05:46:11] * MichiBot loads the linux gerbil into a shell and fires it. It strikes the monitor stand. They take 10 damage. Arcan and zsh stood too close and take 11 and 13 damage respectively.
L81[05:52:52] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/QWI8mfmn2WhW_25382.jpg
L82[05:58:01] <Forecaster> nice, exactly none of the monitors match
L83[06:00:02] <Izaya> Nope :D
L84[06:00:03] <ben_mkiv> xD
L85[06:00:11] <jackie> Izaya: nice collection of wrt54 you got there :P
L86[06:00:16] <Izaya> None of them cost anything, either
L87[06:00:46] <Forecaster> they must taste great then!
L88[06:01:40] <Vexatos> Izaya, I only have two monitors :<
L89[06:02:04] <MGR> I only have one ?
L90[06:02:11] <MGR> I ran out of money for the others
L91[06:02:25] <Vexatos> I bought the two three years apart
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L93[06:03:27] <Forecaster> I bought my three at the same time
L94[06:03:35] <Vexatos> richcaster
L95[06:03:51] <ben_mkiv> im running the same setup for 8 years now... http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=74b115c3842f362561a0fa6fc155536b
L96[06:04:01] <ben_mkiv> well the 17" on the sides didnt cost 50 bucks
L97[06:04:24] <Forecaster> I'd love to go up a size though
L98[06:04:35] <Izaya> Vexatos: gonna set up two more where the shitty Mac is
L99[06:04:43] <MGR> I have a 27" 1440p monitor, which has served me well so far
L100[06:04:47] <MGR> I'd like 2 more though
L101[06:04:48] <Vexatos> I'd love a vertical screen dedicated to IRC
L102[06:04:51] <Izaya> Got a nice stand for 17" 5:4 monitors there
L103[06:04:59] <Vexatos> like, somewhere on top of my 21'' screen
L104[06:05:16] <ben_mkiv> i love my main screen 24", already fixed the psu once xD
L105[06:05:28] <ben_mkiv> but now something is borked again and it needs 10mins to "heat up"
L106[06:05:38] <Izaya> I want some nice 19" 1050p displays
L107[06:05:58] <Izaya> Alas, two 19" 1440x900s and a single 23" 1680x1050
L108[06:07:20] <MGR> "My sister texted my landline accidentally once. Her text included "lol". The voice thing presented this part of the text as a terrifying child's laugh. I listened to it five times and could not stop giggling."
L109[06:08:12] <MGR> "My sister texted my landline accidentally once. Her text included "lol". The voice thing presented this part of the text as a terrifying child's laugh. I listened to it five times and could not stop giggling." --- Quote 1/2 [Edited]
L110[06:08:39] <Forecaster> I have 3 21.5" monitors
L111[06:09:09] <Forecaster> I paid 1295 sek each for them
L112[06:09:25] <Vexatos> I wish 16:10 monitors still existed
L113[06:09:40] <MGR> That's not a bad price for the monitors
L114[06:09:41] <ben_mkiv> yea i dont like that 16:9 stuff, either...
L115[06:09:45] <MGR> Are they 1080p?
L116[06:09:55] <Forecaster> yes
L117[06:10:06] <ben_mkiv> the 24" is 16:10 and has 1920x1200
L118[06:10:18] <ben_mkiv> which fits well with the 1024x1280 of the 17" :>
L119[06:10:33] <Forecaster> I like that youtube videos fit perfectly :P
L120[06:10:50] <MGR> ^
L121[06:10:55] <MGR> Are they IPS or TFT?
L122[06:11:09] <ben_mkiv> you mean TN
L123[06:11:26] <MGR> I've seen it both ways, but yes
L124[06:12:17] <ben_mkiv> the 17s are TN, 24 is M-PVA
L125[06:12:20] <jackie> I like my screens (1920x1200 with 99% sRGB coverage). got three of them together for 500€ about four years ago which was the price of one of them at that time
L126[06:13:00] <Forecaster> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Packard-Bell-Widescreen-1920x1080-100000000/dp/B00DN3PVPU
L127[06:13:05] <Forecaster> this is the model
L128[06:13:14] <Forecaster> I bought them back in 2015
L129[06:13:55] <MGR> ? Probably IPS based on viewing angle
L130[06:15:21] <Forecaster> hm, it might not be quite right
L131[06:15:28] <Forecaster> the specs on that says USB/VGA
L132[06:15:34] <Forecaster> mine are VGA/DVI
L133[06:15:52] <MGR> Yeah
L134[06:15:56] <MGR> USB+VGA is an odd combo
L135[06:16:10] <ben_mkiv> well that sounds like the one who filled the amazon specs didnt knew what he was doing
L136[06:16:19] <ben_mkiv> does yours have a usb hub?
L137[06:16:26] <Forecaster> not that I'm aware
L138[06:17:02] <ben_mkiv> well thats a common usecase for usb on monitors
L139[06:17:21] <Forecaster> I don't think they do, but I may just not have noticed I suppose
L140[06:18:51] <MGR> AMD Ryzen 2000 series releases today
L141[06:18:57] <MGR> I'm looking forward to reviews
L142[06:19:20] <MGR> I heard it's 10% faster IPC compared to original Ryzen, and it has higher clocks
L143[06:27:21] <MGR> http://tinyurl.com/y8ra63hs
L144[06:49:58] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/V6amteE
L145[06:54:33] <Izaya> Portait is excellent :D
L146[06:59:51] <MGR> "Son of Todd was displeased with this information and began mixing in screeching with his wail." --- Quote 2/2
L147[07:07:10] <Forecaster> https://loadingartist.com/comic/cat-got-your-tongue/
L148[07:08:57] <MGR> No hablo espanol
L149[07:09:12] <MGR> Well, a little bit, but not enough to carry a conversation
L150[07:13:31] <Izaya> alright, got surround configured
L151[07:13:50] <Izaya> not entirely ideal but it'll do I guess
L152[07:14:38] <Forecaster> Operation "Auditory Ambush" complete?!
L153[07:15:08] <Forecaster> or wait, did you mean the monitors?
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L155[07:33:32] <Izaya> monitors
L156[07:33:37] <Izaya> ended up disabling surround
L157[07:33:43] <Izaya> oh well
L158[07:36:49] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L159[07:36:50] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with honey slime. AmandaC18 health gained!
L160[07:40:01] <Lizzian> I cycled in this.... http://tinyurl.com/y83mpazd
L161[07:40:31] <Lizzian> And I'm gonna have to do it again after I've fixed some networking
L162[07:40:32] <Inari> RIP lizzy
L163[07:40:59] <Inari> I want advanced michibot options
L164[07:41:10] <Lizzian> ?
L165[07:41:13] <Inari> %inv action heal <verb> <target>
L166[07:41:13] <MichiBot> Inari: Unknown sub-command 'action' (Try: list, create (add), remove (rem, del), preserve (pre), unpreserve (unpre), count, favourite (fav))
L167[07:41:37] <Inari> %pet Lizzy
L168[07:41:37] * MichiBot pets Lizzy with some loli foxgirls. Lizzy11 health gained!
L169[07:41:53] <Inari> %inv action heal cools Lizzy -> MichiBot cools Lizzy with some loli foxgirls. Lizzy11 health gained!
L170[07:41:53] <MichiBot> Inari: Unknown sub-command 'action' (Try: list, create (add), remove (rem, del), preserve (pre), unpreserve (unpre), count, favourite (fav))
L171[07:42:14] <Lizzian> Ah
L172[07:46:58] <Forecaster> "cools"? :P
L173[07:47:16] <Inari> Yes
L174[08:00:29] <MGR> https://www.anandtech.com/show/12625/amd-second-generation-ryzen-7-2700x-2700-ryzen-5-2600x-2600
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L176[08:13:53] <Forecaster> I dunno about allowing any "action"
L177[08:14:04] <Forecaster> but I can certainly add more action commands
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L180[08:23:29] <AmandaC> payonel: question. are event handlers registered in a thread also run in that thread?
L181[08:51:34] <Izaya> https://a.uguu.se/ST5ALhxn3BNG_25384.jpg
L182[08:53:29] <ben_mkiv> so writing code for armature poses i wonder how smart body parts on their own are...
L183[08:54:39] <ben_mkiv> so does the brain do the walkcycle or do the legs walk because the brain tells them to do...
L184[08:54:59] <Forecaster> pretty sure legs can't think for themselves :P
L185[08:55:18] <Izaya> >not having a brain in every appendage
L186[08:55:20] <Forecaster> or do any kind of processing
L187[08:55:26] <MGR> Depends
L188[08:55:30] <MGR> Are you modeling an octopus?
L189[08:55:30] <ben_mkiv> but abstraction maybe
L190[08:55:34] <Izaya> it's like you aren't even a cephalopod
L191[08:55:40] <ben_mkiv> lol mgr xD
L192[08:55:47] <MGR> I got it first ?
L193[08:55:54] <ben_mkiv> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st8-EY71K84
L194[08:55:54] <MichiBot> True Facts About The Octopus | length: 6m 14s | Likes: 100,158 Dislikes: 1,241 Views: 9,545,657 | by zefrank1 | Published On 1/4/2014
L195[08:55:59] * Izaya squints
L196[08:56:00] <Izaya> Sure.
L197[08:56:26] <ben_mkiv> but how about abstraction going on
L198[08:56:42] <Forecaster> I hope there's a video titled "Fake facts about the octopus" as well
L199[08:56:43] <Temia> maybe we shouldn't bring up cephalopods in earshot of Inari...
L200[08:56:55] <MGR> The human brain's motor cortex + cerebellum coordinate all the muscle movements
L201[08:57:08] <MGR> So it doesn't (usually) happen consciously, but it doesn't happen in your legs either
L202[08:57:09] <Izaya> Nah, it's totally safe.
L203[08:57:12] <MGR> To my knowledge
L204[08:57:15] <Izaya> Just perhaps not safe for work.
L205[08:57:26] <ben_mkiv> so how about the octupus then?
L206[08:58:11] <MGR> Those have mini-brains in their arms that largely control the movement
L207[08:58:19] <ben_mkiv> like in the video where he claims that one arm could be an asshole xD
L208[08:58:52] <MGR> I don't know enough about the biology to confirm/deny something as specific as arms having independent personalities, but I lean towards no
L209[09:00:23] <Forecaster> probably depends how you define a personality
L210[09:00:42] <MGR> That too
L211[09:01:14] <ben_mkiv> well maybe 4 arms would actually like to move another direction
L212[09:01:52] <ben_mkiv> while the other 4 send so much neuronal signals through the octopus that they dominate the other four
L213[09:01:55] <ben_mkiv> and change their mind
L214[09:02:42] <MGR> I don't think it works like that
L215[09:03:00] <ben_mkiv> thats how evolution works
L216[09:03:13] <MGR> I'm fairly sure the central brain decides on the main movements
L217[09:03:25] <ben_mkiv> it got a central brain?
L218[09:03:38] <Izaya> mostly unrelated: https://my.mixtape.moe/uaillc.webm
L219[09:03:41] <MGR> Yes it does
L220[09:03:45] <ben_mkiv> ah nvm then
L221[09:03:50] <ben_mkiv> i thought it only had brainarms
L222[09:03:54] <MGR> No
L223[09:07:04] <ben_mkiv> all my theories for nuts
L224[09:12:11] <ben_mkiv> https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2017/07/18/how-does-the-brain-control-movement/#585a46fb9ad8
L225[09:12:53] <Inari> Temia: I'm not a fan of octopus :P
L226[09:13:11] <S3> so what do you think of this. OC supports unicode pretty naturally
L227[09:13:15] <ben_mkiv> so if you are to lazy to stand up to switch off the light... blame the basal ganglia
L228[09:13:38] <S3> I'm thnking of puting code page scripts in something like /etc/cp_acp
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L230[09:13:55] <ben_mkiv> If every message was sent to your muscles you wouldn�t be able to function. This stop happens at the Basal Ganglia. This is a complicated system that selects which �instructions� will be executed and which are inhibited. The reason for a movement can be many things, the specific goal is not important right now.
L231[09:14:03] <S3> so that you can set up any code pages to work with whatever binary data you want
L232[09:14:24] <S3> EBCDIC IBM047, IBM437, ISO WESTERN, etc
L233[09:14:45] <ben_mkiv> wouldnt it be smarter to set the codeset within the script?
L234[09:14:46] <S3> they'll just be lua files with tables
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L236[09:14:52] <S3> hmm?
L237[09:15:05] <S3> no these are the actual codeset conversions
L238[09:15:34] <S3> so for example for your shell you could be like export CP_ACP=IBM437
L239[09:15:52] <S3> or you could leave it blank for unicode
L240[09:15:55] <Forecaster> shell?!
L241[09:15:57] <Forecaster> %shell
L242[09:15:57] * MichiBot loads depression into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near Thog, Saphire and xarses. They each take 3 (4-1), 3 (4-1) and 4 (5-1) splash damage respectively.
L243[09:15:58] * MichiBot Depression falls into a chasm..
L244[09:16:02] <S3> wrong kind of shell
L245[09:16:16] <Forecaster> it's never the wrong kind of shell!
L246[09:16:27] <MGR> %juggle 6
L247[09:16:28] * MichiBot juggles with orbital submarine, a dangerous i, a phone charger, AmandaC's urn, a plush dragon, & free coupons
L248[09:16:29] * MichiBot drops a dangerous i which takes 2 damage, the dangerous i didn't have an immunity to the common cold!.
L249[09:16:30] * MichiBot drops a phone charger which takes 2 damage
L250[09:16:31] * MichiBot drops AmandaC's urn which takes 3 damage
L251[09:16:32] * MichiBot drops free coupons which takes 1 damage
L252[09:16:33] <MichiBot> #@%&!!
L253[09:16:46] <MGR> He's too dangerous to be dangerous
L254[09:16:48] <S3> ben_mkiv: from here, a program could access the CP_ACP environment variable to decide how to handle data
L255[09:17:32] <S3> and an api will allow it to easily convert to unicode
L256[09:57:40] <Forecaster> hm...
L257[09:58:09] <Forecaster> I'd like to copy my webserver as-is to a VM, to try upgrading it without having to risk breaking the live environment...
L258[09:58:32] <Forecaster> I wonder if that'd work...
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L260[10:07:05] <MGR> Turns out you can protect your electronics in case of EMP by putting them inside your microwave
L261[10:07:18] <MGR> Interesting idea that I hadn't thought of
L262[10:07:53] <Forecaster> well yeah, a microwave is basically a faraday cage
L263[10:08:53] <MGR> True, but I hadn't thought of it working in the inverse, which it obviously would
L264[10:17:16] <Inari> Temia: "long soft tongue" eh
L265[10:17:26] <Temia> Are you looking at my faves :T
L266[10:17:41] <Inari> Well, no
L267[10:17:44] <Inari> it just popped up in activity
L268[10:17:45] <Inari> :P
L269[10:17:59] <Temia> Dammit Twitter, let me show my support for Stella in peace
L270[10:18:01] * Temia shakefist
L271[10:18:46] <Inari> Haha
L272[10:18:54] <Inari> I don't even know what an Ada is
L273[10:19:23] <Temia> If you want to know, look at her TL
L274[10:19:41] <Inari> I did
L275[10:19:45] <Inari> Nothing seemed to pop out as "ada"
L276[10:19:46] <Inari> :p
L277[10:19:57] <Temia> Ctrl-F for "Ada"
L278[10:20:55] <Inari> One Chloe Adams retweet
L279[10:20:58] <Inari> one tweet mentionig adam's apple
L280[10:21:23] <Temia> Ah, it was in a reply.
L281[10:21:35] <Temia> Which, using a third-party client, I don't have to manually switch to. >.>
L282[10:21:45] <Inari> I see
L283[10:21:57] <Temia> (Because honestly, Twitter's so garbage these days I can't stand using the official interface)
L284[10:22:00] <Inari> Looks like some sorta snake monstergirl
L285[10:22:17] <Inari> Well I use tweetdeck, can't justify much else for my usage xD
L286[10:27:00] <Skye> Linku
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L296[11:24:58] <S3> linku?
L297[11:25:37] <S3> MGR yes microwaves are faraday cages
L298[11:25:39] <S3> newer ones anyways
L299[11:25:46] <S3> MGR the old microwaves didnt even have doors on them
L300[11:26:10] <ben_mkiv> seriously?
L301[11:26:49] <finalfxtidus> only in the most literale sense of the word microwave lol
L302[11:27:01] <S3> that's the thing MGR, for example a desktop PC (especially if it is well grounded) will work pretty well against an EMP of reasonable gauss because of its faraday assembly.
L303[11:27:07] <S3> people freak out way too much
L304[11:27:14] <S3> ben_mkiv: yeah
L305[11:27:28] <Skye> S3, isn't one of the key things about a PC case is that they're metal to sheild everything else from RF?
L306[11:27:34] <S3> you put your food in there was no turntable and you throw in food and turn it on
L307[11:27:42] <S3> Skye: yes.
L308[11:27:48] <S3> and to provide a large ground plane
L309[11:27:56] <ben_mkiv> yea it also does take shorter time
L310[11:27:58] <ben_mkiv> as you heat up, too
L311[11:28:03] <ben_mkiv> xD
L312[11:28:09] <S3> Skye: they are also designed to prevent RF from escaping
L313[11:28:17] <MGR> S3, you need to prefix an @ if you want me to see anything
L314[11:28:19] <S3> high frequency analog circuits do that in PCs
L315[11:28:39] <ben_mkiv> dont think that this works @MGR
L316[11:28:40] <S3> @MGR: I don't think so, you just responded :P
L317[11:29:04] <ben_mkiv> doesnt discord need the numeric id for highlight, too?!
L318[11:29:06] <MGR> Because I was paging to a different area and came across it
L319[11:29:09] <S3> the fact that you responded proves to me that you say my messages
L320[11:29:31] <MGR> ben_mkiv, it auto-completes those in the client, and Corded does not require it
L321[11:29:41] <MGR> @/MGR in IRC (minus the / obviously) will highlight me
L322[11:29:48] <S3> Corded is actually a smart cookie
L323[11:29:54] <MGR> S3, see my first response
L324[11:30:07] <S3> lol
L325[11:30:20] <ben_mkiv> oh, nice
L326[11:30:21] <S3> I think MGR will be fine
L327[11:30:38] <ben_mkiv> smart but only if you use @ :P
L328[11:30:54] <S3> yeah but I really don't care
L329[11:31:02] <S3> he'll either eventually come across it or he will never see it
L330[11:31:16] <ben_mkiv> just like a koala... in the rain
L331[11:31:26] <S3> now if I had an important message on the other hand..
L332[11:31:30] <ben_mkiv> https://youtu.be/gNqQL-1gZF8?t=5m37s
L333[11:31:30] <MichiBot> True Facts About Marsupials | length: 6m 45s | Likes: 105,707 Dislikes: 1,792 Views: 8,181,739 | by zefrank1 | Published On 22/8/2014
L334[11:31:39] <ben_mkiv> as i've watched zefrank true facts videos for an hour now...
L335[11:31:48] <S3> they melt in the rain
L336[11:32:08] <S3> ?
L337[11:32:17] <ben_mkiv> they dont give a f...
L338[11:32:20] <ben_mkiv> about rain
L339[11:32:22] <ben_mkiv> or anything
L340[11:32:23] <ben_mkiv> xD
L341[11:33:01] <MGR> I'm pretty sure koalas can rip your face off
L342[11:33:19] <ben_mkiv> thats dropbears or smth
L343[11:33:27] <MGR> #6 auto-complete to my search of "can koalas" is "can koalas explode?"
L344[11:33:53] <ben_mkiv> well... kill you is 2nd
L345[11:33:58] <MGR> Yes
L346[11:34:06] <MGR> They bite, but not much else apparently
L347[11:34:31] <MGR> #5 under "something else you may want to look at" is the Koala exploding thing
L348[11:34:32] <MGR> WHy?!
L349[11:34:40] <MGR> Why?! [Edited]
L350[11:35:09] <ben_mkiv> sounds like a big deal
L351[11:35:43] <ben_mkiv> https://www.savethekoala.com/our-work/koala-myth-becomes-scientific-fact
L352[11:35:53] <ben_mkiv> AUSTRALIAN KOALA FOUNDATION
L353[11:35:59] <ben_mkiv> damn, this is much cooler than opencomputers
L354[11:36:45] <MGR> Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh, the problem with Koalas is their diet
L355[11:37:01] <ben_mkiv> they ferment the eucalyptus
L356[11:37:07] <MGR> Because they spend so much time eating poisonous eucalyptus leaves, any wounds they inflect tend to introduce the toxin into your bloodstream
L357[11:37:09] <ben_mkiv> you should watch the whole true facts thing xD
L358[11:37:18] <ben_mkiv> yea, its basicly uneatable
L359[11:37:22] <ben_mkiv> but they do eat just that
L360[11:37:35] <MGR> It's a proven fact that everything in Australia (including the ground) is out to kill you
L361[11:37:50] <MGR> 2 more proof points. The Australian military fought a war against rabbits and emus. They lost.
L362[11:38:19] <MGR> Rabbits used their corpses to climb the Great Australian Wall
L363[11:41:24] <MGR> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Murchison_Murders
L364[11:41:27] <MGR> ?
L365[12:16:54] <Forecaster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289922079816417282/436575762653511680/JPEG_20180419_191600.jpg
L366[12:17:02] <Forecaster> I bought this today
L367[12:34:45] <Wuerfel_21> y my interpolation ovrshot?
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L369[12:40:37] <Wuerfel_21> this shit will kill me...
L370[12:40:51] <Wuerfel_21> it makes no sense
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L373[12:56:41] <CompanionCube> grr
L374[12:56:59] <CompanionCube> having to go to discord to be in something...
L375[12:57:08] <MGR> ?
L376[12:59:50] <CompanionCube> %shell MGR
L377[12:59:50] * MichiBot loads a hot air gun into a shell and fires it. It strikes MGR. They take 15 damage. mrkirby153 and Cruor stood too close and take 18 and 15 damage respectively.
L378[13:00:27] <Corded> * <MGR> dodges
L379[13:00:37] <MGR> %stab CompanionCube
L380[13:00:37] * MichiBot stabs CompanionCube with a nasty edge case doing 15 damage
L381[13:02:16] * CompanionCube steals all of MGR's toilet paper
L382[13:02:21] <Forecaster> you clearly didn't dodge that MGR :P
L383[13:02:25] <Forecaster> MichiBot said so
L384[13:02:26] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGUHehFGqBc
L385[13:02:26] <MichiBot> I created a PERFECT minesweeper AI | length: 7m 47s | Likes: 14,470 Dislikes: 858 Views: 531,439 | by Code Bullet | Published On 14/4/2018
L386[13:03:17] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/ybe4jcx7
L387[13:03:20] <Corded> * <MGR> buys new toilet paper and secures it
L388[13:04:46] <Forecaster> this is even more interesting
L389[13:04:46] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bhP7zulFfY
L390[13:04:46] <MichiBot> AI learns to play snake using Genetic Algorithm and Deep learning | length: 6m 43s | Likes: 14,783 Dislikes: 591 Views: 912,293 | by Code Bullet | Published On 8/12/2017
L391[13:04:49] <Vexatos> @Forecaster https://zikoat.github.io/
L392[13:05:46] <MGR> ?
L393[13:05:50] <Corded> * <MGR> makes a note to self
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L396[13:29:26] <Forecaster> godammit vexatos
L397[13:29:31] <Forecaster> I have things to do
L398[13:29:39] <Forecaster> I'm not supposed to be playing minesweeper
L399[13:29:43] <Forecaster> look at what you've done
L400[13:29:51] <Vexatos> @Forecaster a minesweeper you cannot win!
L401[13:29:56] <Vexatos> it is pure masochism!
L402[13:30:19] <Forecaster> that depends what you consider winning
L403[13:30:27] <Vexatos> well you can only delay losing
L404[13:30:28] <Forecaster> if it's not blowing up I'm doing great
L405[13:30:31] <Vexatos> on an infinite grid :P
L406[13:30:49] <Forecaster> if I quit I don't blow up :P
L407[13:30:58] <Vexatos> you know
L408[13:31:03] <Vexatos> if you come back without hitting reset
L409[13:31:12] <Vexatos> it stays right where you stopped
L410[13:31:23] <Vexatos> so you can just come back to the same game a day later
L411[13:31:36] <Vexatos> and NEVER STOP
L412[13:31:52] <Vexatos> @Forecaster truly the most evil of websites
L413[13:32:22] <Forecaster> I'll consider it a win when I get to 1000 points, then do something else
L414[13:33:52] <Vexatos> being mentally capable of closing the tab counts as winning I guess
L415[13:35:25] <Forecaster> there
L416[13:35:26] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y7my2eba
L417[13:37:08] <Forecaster> lets edit minit episodes instead now
L418[13:55:10] <Forecaster> time for egg
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L426[15:31:14] <Wuerfel_21> anyone need "colorful pyramid drives on endless procedural road simulator 2018"?
L427[15:31:15] <Wuerfel_21> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/196269694733385728/436624412167634955/DRtest190418.zip
L428[15:32:41] <Forecaster> how do you win?!
L429[15:34:58] <Wuerfel_21> you don't. Neither do you lose. These features are NYI
L430[15:35:32] <Forecaster> are there lootboxes at least?
L431[15:37:00] <Wuerfel_21> yes, lootboxes are available as DLC
L432[15:37:11] <Forecaster> phew, I was about to loose hope there
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L479[15:53:29] <S3> damn it
L480[15:53:34] <S3> one of my floppy disks just went bad
L481[15:56:20] <MalkContent_> oc floppies can go bad?
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L485[15:56:43] <MalkContent_> or are you using an actual real life floppy
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L499[16:02:01] <S3> MalkContent_: IRL
L500[16:02:06] <S3> I forgot I was in #OC lol
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L502[16:03:03] <S3> LOL
L503[16:03:26] <S3> whatever you do don't do Format A then take the disk out, spin the disk and put it back in
L504[16:03:28] <S3> and hit enter
L505[16:03:57] <AmandaC> okay, I'll do that with B instead
L506[16:04:05] <S3> rofl
L507[16:04:09] * AmandaC wanders off to relax and watch anime
L508[16:04:13] <S3> well I forgot to turn off write protect
L509[16:04:28] <S3> and Iw as like oh shit pulled it back out before it started and accidently spun the disk inside
L510[16:04:35] <S3> and t was like okay markin half the sectors bad now
L511[16:04:49] <S3> eve though it was just misaligned
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L514[16:07:07] <S3> huh I did find this site: http://www.floppydisk.com/shopping?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIo63ljJ_H2gIVyAOGCh2FnwhZEAQYAiABEgLOX_D_BwE
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L538[16:46:59] <payonel> Inari: https://imgur.com/a/dkjQlhU
L539[16:49:30] <Inari> Haha :D
L540[16:58:19] <MalkContent_> how does that kill a floppy though. i can imagine it can kill the file system, but reformat->fine
L541[16:59:25] <MalkContent_> or did you spin it while reading/driving?
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L547[17:34:31] <Inari> MalkContent_: Overwriting sector marking? No clue
L548[17:35:11] <Izaya> it's not like modern floppies have a hole for marking the zero point on them
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L551[17:48:15] <MalkContent_> (modern floppies?)
L552[17:48:26] <Izaya> ...
L553[17:48:32] <Izaya> right
L554[17:48:37] <Izaya> nobody's made them in at least 10 years
L555[17:48:49] <Izaya> modern as in IBM-compatible 3.5" ones
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L557[17:51:19] <MalkContent_> :x
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L561[18:11:35] <Skye> Izaya, you can buy them off of amazon
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L574[19:19:07] <Mort_Goldman360> Hello can someone teach me everything about open computers? I have no experience in code, but I want to learn all that i can
L575[19:19:44] <MGR> I can help answer some of the questions you have
L576[19:20:24] <Mort_Goldman360> like full tutorial. the website does not help that much and the videos on youtube does not go in depth
L577[19:20:41] <MGR> Uhhhh
L578[19:20:55] <MGR> That unfortunately exceeds my current time available
L579[19:21:24] <Mort_Goldman360> can you teach me in parts?
L580[19:21:32] <Mort_Goldman360> like space it out?
L581[19:21:55] <MGR> If you're willing to wait until tomorrow, yes
L582[19:22:05] <Mort_Goldman360> ok
L583[19:22:11] <Izaya> First thing first, take a look at the Lua manual.
L584[19:22:22] <Mort_Goldman360> ok
L585[19:23:19] <Mort_Goldman360> which one? there are 5.1, 5.2, 5.3
L586[19:23:37] <Izaya> 5.3 is the default for OC nowdays
L587[19:23:45] <Mort_Goldman360> ok
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L589[19:24:55] <Mort_Goldman360> so I am a history major and gave up math. will I need advanced math skills for this like trig?
L590[19:25:35] <Izaya> Only if you want to implement something using it
L591[19:25:55] <Mort_Goldman360> like the mods in open computers?
L592[19:28:32] <Smexy Snek> Oi! I have a question :3
L593[19:30:16] <Mort_Goldman360> I am getting more questions about the manual. Can we go in general chat?
L594[19:30:27] <Smexy Snek> About the manual?
L595[19:30:28] <Smexy Snek> Whut?
L596[19:30:38] <Izaya> #oc is general
L597[19:30:49] <Izaya> this place is off-topic 70% of the time anyway :D
L598[19:31:05] <Smexy Snek> I have a question...?
L599[19:31:22] <Izaya> What is your question?
L600[19:31:33] <Smexy Snek> I don't know how to make a program start on boot.
L601[19:31:54] <Izaya> Ah, add the command you use to run it in your /home/.shrc
L602[19:32:11] <Smexy Snek> That'll make it start on boot? :3
L603[19:32:16] <MGR> @Mort_Goldman360 A) 0 is not equal to nil B) Yes, it is muted
L604[19:32:33] <Izaya> Should do.
L605[19:32:49] <MGR> I *think* either nil or false
L606[19:33:49] <MGR> I actually have to go unfortunately
L607[19:33:54] <MGR> But I'll PM you tomorrow
L608[19:33:59] <Mort_Goldman360> ok
L609[19:34:04] <Smexy Snek> local: file not found
L610[19:34:04] <Smexy Snek> term.clear() file not found
L611[19:34:30] <MGR> Ohh, you used CheatyComputers?
L612[19:34:34] <MGR> ?
L613[19:34:54] <MGR> ~~ComputerCraft~~ CheatyComputers
L614[19:35:07] <fingercomp> @"Smexy Snek" you shouldn't put the actual code in .shrc; every line is run as an OpenOS command
L615[19:35:21] <Smexy Snek> I'm so confused.
L616[19:35:48] <fingercomp> well, assuming the script is at /home/bin/my-program.lua, you should write "/home/bin/my-program.lua" in .shrc, on its own line
L617[19:35:57] <Izaya> ^
L618[19:36:00] <MGR> @Smexy Snek If you want to make a program the runs on start, you could just write it in /autorun.lua
L619[19:36:06] <MGR> That *should* make it run on startup
L620[19:36:12] <MGR> ?
L621[19:36:12] <Smexy Snek> Doesn't work.
L622[19:36:16] <MGR> I've made it work before...
L623[19:36:39] <MGR> Maybe it's disabled in config
L624[19:36:41] <Smexy Snek> Corded I don't really understand
L625[19:36:46] <Smexy Snek> What do you mean "on its own line"
L626[19:36:50] <MGR> Corded is a bridge bot to IRC btw
L627[19:36:58] <Smexy Snek> Shoot
L628[19:36:59] <Smexy Snek> Well
L629[19:37:02] <Smexy Snek> Flipping nuggets.
L630[19:37:12] <Smexy Snek> Im new to the server so dont judge me.
L631[19:37:17] <MGR> I'm not juding you
L632[19:37:20] <Smexy Snek> XD
L633[19:37:21] <MGR> I'm not judging you [Edited]
L634[19:37:34] <Smexy Snek> So how do I enable /autorun.lua
L635[19:37:49] <Izaya> add /autorun.lua to your .shrc
L636[19:37:51] <MGR> ? Most likely the OC config file
L637[19:37:52] <Izaya> :D
L638[19:37:59] <Smexy Snek> How thoooo
L639[19:38:15] <Izaya> literally just add /autorun.lua to .shrc
L640[19:38:22] <Smexy Snek> But... But...
L641[19:38:34] <Smexy Snek> Im new to OC.
L642[19:38:43] <Izaya> edit /home/.shrc
L643[19:38:54] <Smexy Snek> edit "Program Name"
L644[19:38:54] <Smexy Snek> Ctrl S to save it.
L645[19:38:57] <Smexy Snek> Ctrl W to close it.
L646[19:38:57] <Izaya> /autorun.lua
L647[19:39:05] <Izaya> ^
L648[19:39:10] <Smexy Snek> OHHHH OK
L649[19:39:11] <Smexy Snek> THANKS
L650[19:39:12] <Smexy Snek> XD
L651[19:39:27] <MGR> I suppose that's an in game way of doing it
L652[19:39:47] <Smexy Snek> Not a directory.
L653[19:39:59] <MGR> @Mort_Goldman360 You have to go to the OC MC forum thread
L654[19:40:22] <MGR> I *had* a server running, but the motherboard died
L655[19:40:31] <MGR> If you're interested, I can PM you a link for when I get it working soon
L656[19:40:37] <Smexy Snek> Okay.
L657[19:40:37] * Izaya squints
L658[19:40:44] <Smexy Snek> But rn it's an unknown directory XD
L659[19:40:45] <Mort_Goldman360> yes I do I think. it has been a while since I was on it
L660[19:40:48] <Izaya> edit .shrc
L661[19:40:50] <Izaya> maybe?
L662[19:41:04] <Smexy Snek> I did that.
L663[19:41:04] <MGR> https://discord.gg/f7VYMfJ
L664[19:41:09] <Smexy Snek> And it boots, just gives me an error.
L665[19:41:20] <Izaya> huh
L666[19:41:27] <Smexy Snek> local: file not found
L667[19:41:27] <Smexy Snek> term.clear(): file not found
L668[19:41:28] <MGR> We're in temporary downtime
L669[19:41:29] <Smexy Snek> Idk how to fix that.
L670[19:41:40] <Izaya> remove those lines from your .shrc
L671[19:41:46] <Smexy Snek> I did.
L672[19:41:49] <Smexy Snek> Like
L673[19:41:52] <Smexy Snek> As soon as you said it
L674[19:41:58] <Smexy Snek> But I edited it now what do I do
L675[19:42:01] <Izaya> so your .shrc is only /autorun.lua
L676[19:42:03] <Izaya> ?
L677[19:42:29] <Smexy Snek> Im confused on what the .shrc IS
L678[19:42:33] <Izaya> a file
L679[19:42:34] <Smexy Snek> IM LOST
L680[19:42:36] <Izaya> in your computer
L681[19:42:36] <Smexy Snek> LIKE
L682[19:42:39] <Smexy Snek> WTF
L683[19:42:49] <Izaya> .shrc is a file, which the shell reads on startup
L684[19:42:50] <Smexy Snek> WHY IS IT THIS COMPLICATED TO MAKE A PROG BOOT ON STARTUP
L685[19:42:55] <Izaya> it's not tho
L686[19:43:00] <Smexy Snek> It is
L687[19:43:08] <Smexy Snek> Or you're explaining it super weird
L688[19:43:14] <Izaya> the shell interprets each line as a command
L689[19:43:19] <Smexy Snek> Ok.
L690[19:43:24] <Izaya> so basically
L691[19:43:27] <Smexy Snek> So now how do I make it interpret autorun
L692[19:43:35] <MGR> I'd run MC and get it sorted out in 30 seconds, but I really have to go
L693[19:43:39] <MGR> Sorry guys, have a good night!
L694[19:43:42] <Izaya> your .shrc should contain:
L695[19:43:42] <Smexy Snek> Goodnight!
L696[19:43:46] <Izaya> /autorun.lua
L697[19:43:50] <Izaya> that's it
L698[19:43:56] <Smexy Snek> Thank
L699[19:43:57] <Smexy Snek> You
L700[19:43:59] <Smexy Snek> XR
L701[19:44:00] <Smexy Snek> XD [Edited]
L702[19:44:00] <Izaya> that'll run /autorun.lua when the machine boots
L703[19:45:04] <Smexy Snek> NOW
L704[19:45:06] <Smexy Snek> MY SECOND QUESTION
L705[19:45:09] <Smexy Snek> XD
L706[19:45:31] <Smexy Snek> How do I start a program in a program
L707[19:45:32] <Smexy Snek> Like
L708[19:45:37] <Smexy Snek> Computercraft's version of shell.run()
L709[19:45:45] <Xal> wiki
L710[19:45:48] <Izaya> os.execute("command")
L711[19:45:50] <Izaya> ~w os
L712[19:45:52] <Smexy Snek> Thank you ?
L713[19:46:00] <Smexy Snek> Also, the wiki is no help.
L714[19:46:00] <Smexy Snek> xD
L715[19:46:04] <Smexy Snek> It's super confusing
L716[19:46:07] <Smexy Snek> That's why I joined here.
L717[19:46:57] <Smexy Snek> And Idk what the hex codes for colors are lol
L718[19:47:03] <Mort_Goldman360> the wiki does not help understand how to make code and all
L719[19:47:10] <Izaya> same as with HTML or similar
L720[19:47:15] <Mort_Goldman360> it is extremely basic
L721[19:47:18] <Xal> the wiki is not meant to teach you lua
L722[19:47:40] <Izaya> oh, and someone was asking about servers?
L723[19:47:46] <Smexy Snek> Yeah like a while ago.
L724[19:47:50] <Izaya> I have this running: https://oc.shadowkat.net/skssrv/
L725[19:48:18] <Smexy Snek> So, how do I find HTML colors.
L726[19:48:37] <Smexy Snek> I think I can find how to set background colors n stuff
L727[19:49:12] <Skye> beep
L728[19:49:17] <Smexy Snek> That helped.
L729[19:49:19] <Xal> use the wiki
L730[19:49:24] <Izaya> https://html-color-codes.info/
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L732[19:49:58] <Mort_Goldman360> corded can you help me start learning open computers?
L733[19:49:59] <Smexy Snek> The wiki is no help
L734[19:50:07] <Smexy Snek> Why do you think Im here.
L735[19:50:07] <Xal> why not
L736[19:50:13] <Xal> can you read?
L737[19:50:16] <Smexy Snek> I spent two hours looking through the wiki just to have my answer solved in 2 seconds here.
L738[19:50:28] <Smexy Snek> I can read... How do you think Im typing
L739[19:50:34] <Mort_Goldman360> I am in the same boat as smexy
L740[19:50:39] <Smexy Snek> Randomly slamming all around the keyboard in hopes that I type a word?
L741[19:50:46] <Xal> dictating to your carer
L742[19:52:44] <Smexy Snek> Dictating to my career...?
L743[19:52:50] <Smexy Snek> Wdym
L744[19:53:01] <Xal> I think you just answered the question "can you read"
L745[19:53:21] <Smexy Snek> You're a confusing person.
L746[19:53:34] <MGR> I'm pretty sure he's not Peter Capaldi
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L748[19:53:55] <MGR> He doesn't have someone else to care so he doesn't have to ?
L749[19:54:03] <Mort_Goldman360> MGR what is the modpack did you give me?
L750[19:54:21] <MGR> @Mort_Goldman360 please use the YGE server for that
L751[19:54:35] <Skye> ~w computer
L752[19:54:41] <Skye> ocdoc is deaded
L753[19:54:43] <Skye> gamax92?
L754[19:54:49] <Izaya> gamaaaaaax
L755[19:55:29] <Xal> how will I condescendingly refer people to the documentation noooooooooooow
L756[19:56:34] <Skye> you have to do it yourself
L757[19:56:36] <Skye> though seriously
L758[19:56:40] <Skye> that bot IS a lifesaver
L759[19:56:42] <Smexy Snek> Id prefer a straight answer rather than being referred to something I've looked at.
L760[19:56:51] <Skye> without it I couldn't use the wiki
L761[19:57:21] <Xal> learning to rtfm is a valuable skill that will get you far in life
L762[19:57:26] <Skye> well sometimes a page is well hidden and you might not have seen it
L763[19:57:37] <Skye> other times, I tend to directly quote from the docs anyway
L764[19:57:41] <Izaya> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=site%3Aocdoc.cil.li+term&ia=web
L765[19:57:44] <Izaya> :D
L766[19:57:54] <Skye> and then try to figure out what is misunderstood
L767[19:58:00] <Xal> google-fu is also very valuable, it turns out
L768[19:58:20] <Skye> it's also hard
L769[19:58:23] <Skye> so be fair to people
L770[19:58:31] <Skye> I can't search to save my life
L771[19:58:36] <Skye> I just go on wiki walks
L772[20:02:19] <Skye> @"Smexy Snek" it's okay to ask here as long as you are okay with being referred to a (hopefully relevant) piece of documentation, and if that doesn't work then you can ask for details/clarification
L773[20:02:33] <Skye> sometimes we can help directly
L774[20:02:36] <Smexy Snek> Oh, yeah that fine!
L775[20:02:42] <Smexy Snek> I mean just saying "Look at the wiki"
L776[20:02:43] <Skye> other times we gotta work with the documentation with you
L777[20:02:44] <Smexy Snek> Won't help.
L778[20:02:48] <Skye> fair enough
L779[20:02:58] <Smexy Snek> Tho what you said is fair too :3
L780[20:03:10] <Izaya> that reminds me that I need to try to document rc
L781[20:03:10] <Skye> though I'd also advise that you mention if you tried to wiki
L782[20:03:13] <AmandaC> %tell Inari see FMP E21 "Deep Trap" for an example of The Forbidden Trope™ done right
L783[20:03:13] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
L784[20:03:21] <Skye> sometimes it's a bit hard to navigate
L785[20:03:23] <Smexy Snek> I did mention I tried the wiki
L786[20:03:26] <Smexy Snek> Like 6 times
L787[20:03:27] <Smexy Snek> XD
L788[20:03:31] <Skye> oh lol
L789[20:03:32] <Skye> oops
L790[20:03:42] <Skye> also a useful bot is ocdoc
L791[20:03:47] <Skye> ~w search here!
L792[20:03:49] <Skye> however
L793[20:03:51] <Skye> it's dead
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L795[20:04:00] <Skye> it was helpful for stuff like wiki stuff
L796[20:04:09] <Skye> so uh, when it'[s back I suggest that
L797[20:05:15] <Izaya> is the ocdoc source somewhere
L798[20:08:37] <Smexy Snek> How to set cursor pos in OC?
L799[20:08:40] <Smexy Snek> :3
L800[20:09:33] <Smexy Snek> Hellu?
L801[20:09:40] <Xal> read the wiki
L802[20:09:47] <Smexy Snek> That helps me none.
L803[20:09:59] <Xal> read it, don't skim it
L804[20:10:01] <Izaya> specifically api:term
L805[20:10:14] <Izaya> term.setCursor(col: number, row: number)
L806[20:10:20] <Smexy Snek> Thanks lz.
L807[20:10:37] <Xal> don't feed his inability to rtfm
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L809[20:10:47] <Smexy Snek> Xal please quit being a dick.
L810[20:10:48] <Smexy Snek> Thanks
L811[20:10:56] <Izaya> I'm only here for the next 20 seconds
L812[20:11:02] <Izaya> then I'll hit this planet and need to land
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L814[20:11:28] <Xal> I like how you asked a question that's easy to answer on the wiki and said "Hellu?" after you didn't get a response after 1 minute
L815[20:11:43] <Smexy Snek> Xal, as I said, please stop being a dick.
L816[20:11:52] <Smexy Snek> There is no rhyme or reason for it you're just being one to be one.
L817[20:12:06] <Xal> this channel isn't your personal technical support team
L818[20:12:16] <Smexy Snek> Im not saying it is.
L819[20:12:20] <Smexy Snek> But I do have the right to ask questions.
L820[20:12:26] <Smexy Snek> And I don't need to be ridiculed for it.
L821[20:13:01] <Xal> I'm going to ridicule you for asking questions that are a google/wiki search away
L822[20:13:10] <Skye> XAL, STOP
L823[20:13:21] <Smexy Snek> If you don't have any valid, helpful, or kind things to say please don't talk to me. Thank you.
L824[20:13:36] <Skye> as someone who has been using OC for a while
L825[20:13:46] <Skye> The wiki is awful
L826[20:13:51] <Smexy Snek> Agreed.
L827[20:13:52] <Skye> It works
L828[20:13:53] <Izaya> this is a known issue
L829[20:13:54] <Izaya> literally
L830[20:14:03] <Skye> But a lot of the knowledge is colloquial
L831[20:14:05] <Izaya> maybe I should make yukichan actually do stuff
L832[20:14:13] <Izaya> search the wiki, manual, and issues
L833[20:14:17] <Smexy Snek> I do try to use it, I don't know where to navigate or go lol
L834[20:14:24] <Skye> Exactly
L835[20:14:31] <Skye> That's what ocdoc was for
L836[20:14:34] <Skye> Searching
L837[20:14:37] <Izaya> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2686
L838[20:14:37] <MichiBot> Title: The Big Wiki issue | Posted by: payonel | Posted: Mon Dec 18 19:14:42 CST 2017 | Status: open
L839[20:14:43] <Skye> It was a decent search engine
L840[20:14:52] <Smexy Snek> What happened to it
L841[20:14:54] <Xal> http://ocdoc.cil.li/start?do=search&id=set+cursor
L842[20:15:01] <Xal> wow really unhelpful :P
L843[20:15:15] <Smexy Snek> There ya go Xal, something helpful.
L844[20:15:28] <Smexy Snek> Valid, helpful, and kind all at once.
L845[20:15:38] <Smexy Snek> Tho my question was indeed answered by Skye.
L846[20:15:53] <Xal> you're telling me you didn't think of typing the two first words of your question into the search box
L847[20:16:01] <Smexy Snek> I didn't see a search box.
L848[20:16:08] <Smexy Snek> Also, again, stop being an ass.
L849[20:16:09] <Skye> The UI isn't great
L850[20:16:11] <Smexy Snek> For literally no reason.
L851[20:16:13] <Skye> That's the problem
L852[20:16:25] <Skye> Also you kinda need to be welcoming to new people
L853[20:16:41] <Skye> I would understand your reaction if it was a private message
L854[20:16:48] <Skye> But this is a public channel
L855[20:17:07] <Xal> there's a fine line between answering stupid questions and "feeding bad habits"
L856[20:17:13] <Skye> If you want to encourage people to read the docs
L857[20:17:23] <Smexy Snek> Where are the docs?
L858[20:17:24] <Skye> Then don't make them hate you
L859[20:17:37] <Skye> there are two sets of docs
L860[20:17:42] <Smexy Snek> Okay :3
L861[20:17:44] <Skye> ocd.cil.li
L862[20:17:49] <Skye> And the in game docs
L863[20:17:55] <Skye> Oh and
L864[20:17:58] <Skye> The lua docs
L865[20:18:02] <Smexy Snek> Well that woulda helped.
L866[20:18:19] <Skye> Both Lua 5.2 and Lua 5.3 references
L867[20:18:24] <Skye> And programming in Lua
L868[20:18:32] <Smexy Snek> Ok ?
L869[20:18:37] <Smexy Snek> Thanks, Skye.
L870[20:18:42] <Skye> No worries
L871[20:18:47] <Smexy Snek> Oh, is "elseif" a thing in OC.
L872[20:18:55] <Smexy Snek> It was in Computer Craft.
L873[20:18:58] <Skye> Yep
L874[20:19:01] <Skye> Yeah
L875[20:19:04] <Skye> Same language
L876[20:19:10] <Smexy Snek> Alright, thanks ?
L877[20:19:17] <Smexy Snek> Well it threw me an error last time I used it
L878[20:19:18] <Skye> OC uses a newer version
L879[20:19:49] <Skye> Xal, you encourage good behaviour by teaching people how to read the docs
L880[20:20:06] <Smexy Snek> Am I not supposed to ask for help in the discord?
L881[20:20:21] <Skye> You are
L882[20:20:26] <Skye> That's the purpose of it
L883[20:20:35] <Smexy Snek> Oh, ok.
L884[20:20:43] <Skye> I mean, simple stuff can be worked out with the wiki
L885[20:20:55] <Skye> So try that first people aren't online all the time
L886[20:21:11] <Skye> But if that doesn't work, ask for help here
L887[20:21:16] <Smexy Snek> Yeah yeah, that makes sense. Though as stated before the wiki is just confusing.
L888[20:21:20] <Skye> And give as many details as possible
L889[20:21:45] <Skye> Yeah
L890[20:21:59] <Skye> Hopefully the search bot revives
L891[20:22:01] <Skye> gamax92:
L892[20:22:14] <Smexy Snek> Haha.
L893[20:22:41] <Skye> Anyway, anything else you need help with?
L894[20:23:01] <Smexy Snek> One more hting
L895[20:23:03] <Smexy Snek> I think
L896[20:23:19] <Smexy Snek> "Attempt to call nill field 'reboot' (a nil value):
L897[20:23:27] <Smexy Snek> The line I used was "computer.reboot()"
L898[20:23:31] <Xal> http://ocdoc.cil.li/start?do=search&id=reboot
L899[20:23:45] <Smexy Snek> Ha
L900[20:23:48] <Smexy Snek> I already looked :3
L901[20:23:54] <Smexy Snek> That's how I knew it wasn't os.reboot() XD
L902[20:24:01] <Xal> hint: the answer is in the first search result
L903[20:24:13] <Smexy Snek> Did you not read my first three messages :3
L904[20:24:36] <Xal> look again, it's right there on result one
L905[20:24:43] <Smexy Snek> Im looking at it.
L906[20:24:45] <Smexy Snek> Hold on.
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L908[20:25:11] <Smexy Snek> Ahhh I mistook something.
L909[20:25:15] <Smexy Snek> Thanks, Xal.
L910[20:26:16] <Smexy Snek> Now it's throwing an error at me lol
L911[20:26:42] <Smexy Snek> computer.shutdown([reboot: boolean]) Do I change "boolean" to true/false?
L912[20:27:00] <Smexy Snek> Because I did tho it threw an unexpected symbol error at me
L913[20:27:07] <Smexy Snek> Because I did, tho it threw an unexpected symbol error at me [Edited]
L914[20:27:17] <Xal> hint: there's a example of how to use it right below the answer on the wiki
L915[20:27:29] <Smexy Snek> Why don't you just tell me because I read it like 4 times.
L916[20:27:34] <Smexy Snek> If I'm asking it means I don't understand.
L917[20:27:35] <Smexy Snek> Thank you.
L918[20:27:54] <Smexy Snek> If I'm asking it means I don't understand/is worded badly. [Edited]
L919[20:28:24] <Smexy Snek> And please, quit it with the sarcastic "hint:"
L920[20:28:34] <Xal> read it again
L921[20:28:50] <Smexy Snek> Xal. I replaced boolean with true and false, guess what it did.
L922[20:28:51] <Smexy Snek> Go on
L923[20:28:53] <Smexy Snek> Guess.
L924[20:28:57] <Smexy Snek> Or did you not read my message?
L925[20:29:03] <Smexy Snek> Unexpected Symbol.
L926[20:29:40] <Xal> there's an example below the entry in the wiki
L927[20:29:43] <Xal> called "snippet.lua"
L928[20:29:46] <Smexy Snek> */lib/process.lua:52: /home/DSKTOP2:24: unexpected symbol near '[':*
L929[20:29:51] <Xal> that contains a perfectly good use of it
L930[20:30:06] <Smexy Snek> Didn't see it.
L931[20:30:27] <Smexy Snek> I'm just gonna leave the Discord man, I feel like an idiot just being around you.
L932[20:30:59] <Smexy Snek> Or literally just ignore everything you say. That works too.
L933[20:31:07] <Xal> <3
L934[20:31:32] <Smexy Snek> Can you remind me why you're being a total asshole again?
L935[20:31:41] <Skye> ...
L936[20:31:44] <Skye> Xal, stop
L937[20:32:08] <Skye> You are basically pushing someone away
L938[20:32:22] <Skye> Even though they are just confused by the awful wiki
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L940[20:32:45] <Smexy Snek> Hey, Skye? Is there like something you can press to force quit a running program
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L942[20:32:59] <Skye> If I was treated like this when I was learning, then I wouldn't learn
L943[20:33:03] <Skye> Uh on
L944[20:33:08] <Smexy Snek> OC.
L945[20:33:09] <Skye> Ctrl alt C
L946[20:33:12] <Smexy Snek> Oh thanks ?
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L948[20:33:48] <Smexy Snek> I made the most basic OS I could XD
L949[20:34:06] <Skye> Yay
L950[20:34:13] <Skye> I did that sometimes
L951[20:34:20] <Smexy Snek> It has a Username/Password then it has a UI that it goes to.
L952[20:34:31] <Smexy Snek> I call it: Burn OS 1.0 XD
L953[20:34:50] <Skye> Hm, interesting
L954[20:35:17] <Izaya> I should get back to working on PsychOS at some point...
L955[20:35:19] <Skye> OSes are... Interesting
L956[20:35:25] <Skye> Oh yeah
L957[20:35:27] <Izaya> That means rewriting everything above the scheduler though...
L958[20:35:28] <Smexy Snek> They are ?
L959[20:35:40] <Smexy Snek> Oh, question, that I don't really know what to search on the wiki
L960[20:35:43] <Skye> Izaya and me and payonel are the OS makers in here?
L961[20:35:47] <Skye> Huh?
L962[20:35:50] <Smexy Snek> How do I make it so when you exit a program it automatically goes back to like, a default.
L963[20:36:06] <Skye> Huh?
L964[20:36:08] <Smexy Snek> Like If I make a program to go with the UI, and exit the program, how do I make it go back to the UI XD
L965[20:36:12] <Skye> So a replacement shell?
L966[20:36:15] <Smexy Snek> Basically
L967[20:36:27] <Skye> Hm
L968[20:36:47] <Skye> Well as long as you launch the new program from your shell
L969[20:37:07] <Smexy Snek> Is there a program called "shell"?
L970[20:37:09] <Skye> When the program exits , control is returned to your shell
L971[20:37:17] <Skye> There is a shell
L972[20:37:24] <Skye> But if you change it
L973[20:37:32] <Skye> It might break OC
L974[20:37:39] <Smexy Snek> I have a backup of my OS on my desktop
L975[20:37:45] <Skye> Hm
L976[20:37:47] <Smexy Snek> So I can do stuff that's dangerous
L977[20:37:48] <Smexy Snek> XD
L978[20:38:00] <Skye> You can just start programs from your own program
L979[20:38:08] <Smexy Snek> OH YEAH
L980[20:38:10] <Skye> os.execute()
L981[20:38:10] <Smexy Snek> I forgot you can do that
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L983[20:38:11] <Smexy Snek> XD
L984[20:38:16] <Skye> Oops
L985[20:38:18] <Skye> :p
L986[20:38:20] <Smexy Snek> :p
L987[20:38:21] * Skye baps
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L989[20:38:40] <Smexy Snek> I made it so that when you get the password right it beeps at you 4 times, each in a higher pitch.
L990[20:38:41] <Smexy Snek> XD
L991[20:38:42] <Smexy Snek> DINNER BRB ?
L992[20:38:58] <Skye> Hm
L993[20:39:02] <Skye> Interesting
L994[20:39:16] <Skye> Should there be a sound program...
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L997[20:39:59] <Skye> By the way, if it runs on openos it isnt, an OS
L998[20:40:19] <Skye> If it is an OS that runs without openos then congratulations
L999[20:40:23] <Skye> Nothing is documenting
L1000[20:40:29] <Skye> *documented
L1001[20:41:24] <Xal> I think it's been made clear documentation will not make a difference in this case
L1002[20:41:51] <Skye> Xal, the wiki is awful
L1003[20:42:09] <Skye> And the search bot died.
L1004[20:42:20] <Skye> And also they're learning how to use the wiki
L1005[20:42:22] <Skye> So...
L1006[20:42:27] * Skye shrugs
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L1008[20:43:24] <Skye> Xal, please don't be rude to people though.
L1009[20:43:51] <Smexy Snek> BAWK
L1010[20:44:15] <Smexy Snek> Is Xal always a jerk or is this new behavior XD
L1011[20:44:39] <Skye> While OC tends to attract the more tech savvy type, we shouldn't push people away because they don't immediately know how to ask questions perfectly
L1012[20:44:49] <Skye> I dunno this seems new
L1013[20:44:53] <Izaya> Ah, good to see you're being so much better about it than them.
L1014[20:45:02] <Smexy Snek> Who, me?
L1015[20:45:18] <Smexy Snek> I'm kinda tech savvy, I'm more hardware than software.
L1016[20:45:32] <Smexy Snek> Like I can name off all the parts in my computer except the MOBO
L1017[20:45:49] <Izaya> 's a good start
L1018[20:46:22] <Skye> Well by savvy I mean... There's a whole odd geek culture thing, Linux open source stuff. :p
L1019[20:46:32] <Smexy Snek> Ooooh ok
L1020[20:47:03] <Smexy Snek> Ill try to use the wiki more but it's really no help sometimes, Skye do you actually use Discord or is it just IRC you use?
L1021[20:47:19] <Skye> IRC and I'm on discord under the same name
L1022[20:47:21] <Izaya> Skye: for PsychOS is speed or colour more important do you think
L1023[20:47:28] <Skye> Uh Wut
L1024[20:47:45] <Smexy Snek> Idk how to do color atm.
L1025[20:47:50] <Smexy Snek> Ill try to look it up lool
L1026[20:47:54] <Izaya> I want to redo fastterm but I dunno whether to bother with colours
L1027[20:48:06] <Skye> Colours are nice
L1028[20:48:15] <Xal> I apologize for being abrasive. I'd like to warn you that many, many free software communities will come off a lot less welcoming than I if you don't spend a lot of time researching your question before asking it
L1029[20:48:54] <Izaya> with fastterm I can redraw the whole screen in just over a second but no colour support
L1030[20:48:57] <Skye> Snek, you set color then set text.
L1031[20:50:00] <Smexy Snek> Then why don't you change that Xal? Be the 100th one to recognize that it is damn near impossible to use the Wiki.
L1032[20:50:24] <Smexy Snek> "Whoever said nothing is impossible has never tried slamming a revolving door"
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L1034[20:50:38] <Skye> Well the main problem is that it's hard to move wiki format
L1035[20:50:48] <Smexy Snek> And hey, that's understandable.
L1036[20:50:51] <Izaya> Like I said, good to see that you're being so friendly too.
L1037[20:50:59] <Smexy Snek> Just, don't be mad at me for taking the easier route.
L1038[20:51:05] <Xal> I don't think the wiki is impossible to use. I think it's pretty much as good as a technical reference to the OC API is going to get.
L1039[20:51:14] <Smexy Snek> I never said impossible.
L1040[20:51:16] <Smexy Snek> I said damn near.
L1041[20:51:22] <Skye> The wiki has a clunky ui
L1042[20:51:22] <Smexy Snek> Also, Izaya I can't tell if you're being sarcastic XD
L1043[20:51:44] <Izaya> everything has a clunky UI
L1044[20:51:44] * Xal converts the wiki to a GNU info manual
L1045[20:51:52] <Izaya> we don't have neural interfaces yet
L1046[20:52:14] <Xal> maybe I'm just weird because I like gnu info and manpages
L1047[20:52:14] <Skye> Who operates the wiki
L1048[20:52:18] <Smexy Snek> I get extremely defensive when someone talks down to me in that kind of a way, and it aggravates me because I'm trying to learn something and someone is treating me like an idiot for using other sources than just the damn wiki.
L1049[20:52:52] <Skye> Lizzy? Is there a possibility of getting better wiki?
L1050[20:53:10] <Xal> While I respect that you were having trouble using the wiki, I didn't like that you claimed to have a "right" to ask questions
L1051[20:53:42] <Smexy Snek> The thing is, I do have a right to ask questions.
L1052[20:53:48] <Smexy Snek> That's like the main thing in Merica XD
L1053[20:53:53] <Smexy Snek> The right to remain silent as well as the right to speak.
L1054[20:53:54] <Skye> Uh
L1055[20:53:58] <Skye> In this channel
L1056[20:54:04] <Skye> Everyone can ask a question
L1057[20:54:24] <Skye> An answer is not gaurenteed
L1058[20:54:25] <Izaya> I dunno about everyone else
L1059[20:54:29] <Skye> But still you can ask
L1060[20:54:31] <Xal> That doesn't guarantee you an answer, and it certainly doesn't stop someone from suggesting they take a closer look at the wiki
L1061[20:54:32] <Smexy Snek> Sorry if what I said came off as rude, but I didn't think that saying it would offend you
L1062[20:54:47] <Izaya> but I'm currently connected to a server in sweden
L1063[20:54:51] <Smexy Snek> Xal you were suggesting me look at the wiki when I said I already did and couldn't find where the hell I go.
L1064[20:54:53] <Izaya> so
L1065[20:54:56] <Izaya> \o/
L1066[20:55:13] <Smexy Snek> When you pointed out the searchbox that helped me a trillion
L1067[20:55:21] <Smexy Snek> Then you went on to be super sarcastic with your "Hints"
L1068[20:55:30] <Smexy Snek> I don't like being treated like an idiot, do you?
L1069[20:55:40] <Smexy Snek> Hint: I bet you don't.
L1070[20:56:43] <Smexy Snek> Skye is super helpful and hasn't taken a side, they have pointed out the issues on my side and yours.
L1071[20:57:10] <Smexy Snek> They haven't shoved anything in my face and aren't sarcastic, even if I'm being very ignorant.
L1072[20:57:50] <Smexy Snek> Golden Rule: Treat people like you would like to be treated.
L1073[20:58:14] <Skye> I reserve sarcasm for politics and face to face interactions.
L1074[20:58:19] <Skye> I'm British. :p
L1075[20:58:22] <Smexy Snek> Lol :3
L1076[20:59:18] <Smexy Snek> I love my mini UI.
L1077[20:59:19] <Smexy Snek> XD
L1078[20:59:30] <Izaya> KOS NEO has a nice UI
L1079[20:59:41] <Smexy Snek> Oh? You should link me it ?
L1080[20:59:45] <Izaya> https://pomf.pyonpyon.moe/fwhqgs.webm
L1081[20:59:57] <Izaya> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS/
L1082[21:00:25] <Smexy Snek> I wish I knew how to do any of that
L1083[21:00:25] <Smexy Snek> XD
L1084[21:00:38] <Izaya> browser thing is my project
L1085[21:00:43] <Smexy Snek> Oooh
L1086[21:00:46] <Smexy Snek> How long has it taken you?
L1087[21:00:48] <Izaya> everything else is KOS NEO though, including the UI toolkit
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L1089[21:00:56] <Izaya> I got that working in two days to learn how to use the UI controls
L1090[21:01:04] <Smexy Snek> Oooh cool ?
L1091[21:01:08] <Smexy Snek> Again, wish I was that smart XD
L1092[21:01:43] <Smexy Snek> I have a question that I don't know how to search on the WIKI
L1093[21:01:47] <Smexy Snek> Like, don't know the right term
L1094[21:01:47] <Izaya> https://github.com/ShadowKatStudios/OC-Minitel/blob/master/FRequest/KittenOS/apps/app-frequest.lua
L1095[21:01:48] <Smexy Snek> to use.
L1096[21:02:08] <Smexy Snek> Awesome! I'll check it out soon
L1097[21:02:29] <Smexy Snek> How do I make a computer search for the correct hardware, and if it doesn't have it, it won't let the program start.
L1098[21:02:47] <Smexy Snek> Is there an event I have to pull?
L1099[21:03:45] <Izaya> That'll be from the component API: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:component
L1100[21:03:52] <Smexy Snek> Thanks ?
L1101[21:04:06] <Izaya> Basically, if you can't get component.componentname, it isn't there
L1102[21:04:35] <Smexy Snek> local component = require("component")
L1103[21:04:40] <Smexy Snek> So basically that calls the component
L1104[21:04:41] <Smexy Snek> ?
L1105[21:04:56] <Izaya> that includes the component API in your program
L1106[21:05:07] <Smexy Snek> Oh shoot
L1107[21:05:10] <Smexy Snek> I didn't see the local
L1108[21:05:14] <Smexy Snek> God Im blind xD
L1109[21:06:27] <Smexy Snek> Im a little confused.
L1110[21:06:52] <Smexy Snek> There's many things in this about redstone, I dont see anything about a GPU or a CPU
L1111[21:06:55] <Smexy Snek> or RAM for that matter.
L1112[21:07:07] <Izaya> Right.
L1113[21:07:09] <Smexy Snek> There's stuff that provides a list of what you have.
L1114[21:07:13] <Smexy Snek> Im just confused.
L1115[21:07:21] <Smexy Snek> Sorry if Im being a bother.
L1116[21:07:36] <Izaya> 12:04 <Izaya> Basically, if you can't get component.componentname, it isn't there
L1117[21:07:56] <Smexy Snek> But how do I get the computer to see if component.component name is there or not.
L1118[21:08:16] <Izaya> if component.componentname ~= nil then
L1119[21:08:27] <Smexy Snek> Ooooooh
L1120[21:08:29] <Izaya> or == nil if you want it to run the code if it is there, I guess
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L1122[21:08:39] <Smexy Snek> So replace componentname with what I'm looking for?
L1123[21:09:02] <Izaya> yup
L1124[21:09:06] <Izaya> see also the page on components
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L1126[21:09:18] <Smexy Snek> Okay, was just about to ask what the gpu was called in OC XD
L1127[21:09:28] <Izaya> or rather, the component category
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L1129[21:10:40] <Smexy Snek> so basically "if component.gpu ~= nil then"
L1130[21:10:41] <Smexy Snek> 'print "Unable to boot, are you sure you have the right components?"'
L1131[21:11:32] <Izaya> no, that'll run if there is a GPU
L1132[21:11:50] <Smexy Snek> Oooh ok
L1133[21:12:08] <Smexy Snek> Would I put gpu3 if Im looking for a specific level of GPU?
L1134[21:12:16] <Smexy Snek> like gpu1, gpu2, gpu3 etc.
L1135[21:12:46] <Smexy Snek> Thanks, like a ton btw. You're super helpful and Im afraid Im being a doofus and annoying XD
L1136[21:14:04] <Izaya> uhm
L1137[21:14:18] <Izaya> I don't think there's an actual way to check tier
L1138[21:14:22] <Smexy Snek> Damnnn
L1139[21:14:23] <Smexy Snek> Ok.
L1140[21:14:31] <Izaya> I'd say just figure out what you need
L1141[21:14:36] <Smexy Snek> Because the computer wouldn't boot anyways if there wasn't a GPU.
L1142[21:14:38] <Izaya> resolution, colour depth, etc
L1143[21:14:42] <Izaya> Oh, it'll boot fine.
L1144[21:14:48] <Izaya> It just won't display anything.
L1145[21:14:50] <Smexy Snek> Well yeah
L1146[21:15:01] <Smexy Snek> Then what's the point of making a specific line of code for something that wont display anyways
L1147[21:15:04] <Smexy Snek> know what I mean?
L1148[21:15:15] <Izaya> Decent point.
L1149[21:15:45] <Smexy Snek> Because I want to make it so if someone (let's say a friend) doesn't have the correct gpu it wouldn't boot because the resolution wouldn't be right.
L1150[21:16:15] <Skye> I need to sleep now
L1151[21:16:24] <Smexy Snek> Night Skye! ?
L1152[21:16:24] <Izaya> You can get the resolution from the GPU.
L1153[21:16:29] <Izaya> Sleep well, Skye.
L1154[21:16:29] <Smexy Snek> Oh...
L1155[21:16:31] <Smexy Snek> Er...
L1156[21:16:35] <Smexy Snek> Ill look that up real quick
L1157[21:16:54] <Izaya> The tier doesn't specify resolution or colour depth
L1158[21:17:12] <Izaya> ... Actually, I think it does specify colour depth, but resolution is configurable in the config file
L1159[21:18:11] <Smexy Snek> Alright
L1160[21:18:14] <Smexy Snek> Thanks I figured it out ?
L1161[21:19:08] <Smexy Snek> Well, I got gpu.getResolution but don't know what the :number, number
L1162[21:19:08] <Smexy Snek> is for
L1163[21:21:09] <Smexy Snek> And Idk what the 0x is in front of the hexadecimal for color
L1164[21:21:14] <Smexy Snek> That's confusing the shit out of me
L1165[21:21:22] <Izaya> means it's hexadecimal
L1166[21:21:37] <Smexy Snek> Oh ok
L1167[21:21:39] <Smexy Snek> Thanks yous
L1168[21:24:09] <Smexy Snek> to set text color it is gpu.setText(hexadecimal)
L1169[21:24:13] <Smexy Snek> right?
L1170[21:24:30] <Izaya> Nope.
L1171[21:24:33] <Smexy Snek> Oh shoot
L1172[21:24:38] <Smexy Snek> It doesnt say it in the wiki
L1173[21:24:42] <Smexy Snek> Can you shine a little light on my situation xD
L1174[21:24:46] <Izaya> It does :D
L1175[21:24:59] <Smexy Snek> Then I cant find it
L1176[21:25:19] <Izaya> page for GPU, ctrl-F color
L1177[21:25:52] <Smexy Snek> That literally lights up the entire screen
L1178[21:25:53] <Smexy Snek> xD
L1179[21:26:10] <Smexy Snek> Foreground is text..?
L1180[21:26:21] <AmandaC> Setforeground & setbackground
L1181[21:26:32] <Smexy Snek> Thanks! ?
L1182[21:26:43] <AmandaC> (except properly cased, I'm on from mobile)
L1183[21:26:48] <Smexy Snek> lol
L1184[21:28:58] <AmandaC> What the fuck Amazon
L1185[21:29:42] <AmandaC> Stop sending me emails and notifications on a deal for something "in your wishlist" when I took the thing of the wishlist more than a year ago
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