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L1[00:09:31] <Molinko> lookin sweet Izaya
L2[00:09:41] <Izaya> :D
L3[00:09:51] <Izaya> it's nice to have something to use to test stuff
L4[00:10:01] <Izaya> as it turns out my streams stuff for KittenOS was actually very broken
L5[00:10:06] <Molinko> ?
L6[00:10:20] <Izaya> (amusingly, it was because I left one too many arguments in a function, but anyway...)
L7[00:12:53] <Izaya> But yeah, there's a graphical FGet browser for KittenOS NEO now :D
L8[00:15:22] <Izaya> FRequest
L9[00:15:24] <Izaya> whatever
L10[00:19:17] <Forecaster> %shell
L11[00:19:17] * MichiBot loads some snowflake-shaped salt flakes into a shell and fires it. It strikes clampy. They take 8 damage. Zerant and Lumien stood too close and take 7 and 11 damage respectively.
L12[00:31:10] <Izaya> tfw positively rolling in metals
L13[00:31:21] <Izaya> 34 iron blocks, 19 copper blocks, 14 tin blocks, 4 gold blocks
L14[00:31:38] <Forecaster> built a moneybin and swim in them!
L15[00:33:04] <Izaya> :D
L16[00:56:31] <joaoadao> hello
L17[00:56:37] <joaoadao> im lone here?
L18[00:56:42] <Izaya> hi
L19[00:56:45] <joaoadao> im alone here? [Edited]
L20[00:56:53] <joaoadao> hey izaya
L21[00:57:06] <joaoadao> why my oc have a pixelated screen
L22[00:57:29] <joaoadao> is little hard to see any word
L23[00:58:01] <Izaya> try turning your GUI scale down in the MC options
L24[00:58:14] <joaoadao> i put in normal
L25[00:58:30] <Izaya> alternatively, try a lower-tier screen
L26[00:58:50] <joaoadao> oh god
L27[00:58:50] <Izaya> or reduce the resolution
L28[00:59:11] <joaoadao> roll back tier 3 gpu to 2
L29[00:59:11] <Izaya> # resolution 80 25
L30[00:59:13] <Izaya> or so
L31[01:00:11] <joaoadao> oh
L32[01:00:22] <joaoadao> i can change the rsolution
L33[01:00:27] <Izaya> aye
L34[01:00:28] <joaoadao> typing in the oc
L35[01:00:34] <joaoadao> im soo dumb
L36[01:00:53] <joaoadao> ?
L37[01:02:35] <joaoadao> izaya
L38[01:02:56] <joaoadao> you know the os called mineos?
L39[01:03:07] <Izaya> I'm aware of it, never used it though.
L40[01:03:37] <joaoadao> this os is really heavy
L41[01:03:54] <joaoadao> need 2k of ram
L42[01:04:01] <joaoadao> and hdd tier 2
L43[01:04:04] <Izaya> Unsurprised.
L44[01:04:13] <Izaya> Lots of artwork and such.
L45[01:04:34] <joaoadao> i tryed to install it on a tyer 1 hdd
L46[01:04:40] <joaoadao> and he get full
L47[01:04:47] <joaoadao> and currupted the system
L48[01:05:12] <finalfxtidus> do you install mineos through oppm or something similar to that?
L49[01:05:27] <Izaya> I think there's an installer
L50[01:05:55] <finalfxtidus> in game? Or do I need to do some complicated downloing function lol
L51[01:05:58] <joaoadao> i used the pastebin run
L52[01:06:36] <joaoadao> https://pastebin.com/0nM5b1jU
L53[01:06:46] <joaoadao> pastebin run 0nM5b1jU
L54[01:07:14] <joaoadao> by default he select russian language
L55[01:07:21] <joaoadao> but you can change
L56[01:08:07] <joaoadao> finalfx?
L57[01:09:14] <joaoadao> izaya yes its a installer
L58[01:09:50] <joaoadao> inside the oc itself
L59[01:10:50] <joaoadao> alone AGAIN
L60[01:10:51] <Izaya> Man, I didn't realise the system requirements were so high though.
L61[01:11:22] <joaoadao> is high
L62[01:11:25] <joaoadao> true?
L63[01:11:56] * Izaya nods
L64[01:12:19] <Izaya> KittenOS provides a GUI and you *can* run it in 192k and from a floppy, if you so desire.
L65[01:12:31] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/cxjdcw.webm was on a 256k machine
L66[01:16:05] <finalfxtidus> sorry got distracted
L67[01:17:50] <joaoadao> izaya i can make a installation tutorial if you want
L68[01:17:54] <finalfxtidus> i like the idea of something I can put on a floppy. are you able to pick which drive to boot from or does it boot floppy first always?
L69[01:18:12] <Izaya> not worried about mineos tbh, got an OS with a GUI already
L70[01:18:21] <Izaya> finalfxtidus: you can run OpenOS from a floppy
L71[01:18:34] <Izaya> you'll want to delete the man pages and some of the extra fluff to save space but it does work
L72[01:18:43] <joaoadao> izaya what os you has talking about
L73[01:18:43] <Izaya> and re boot devices, it'll default to whatever it booted from last
L74[01:19:20] <joaoadao> <Izaya> not worried about mineos tbh, got an OS with a GUI already
L75[01:19:30] <joaoadao> what is the name of this os
L76[01:19:44] <joaoadao> sry bad english :/
L77[01:19:46] <Izaya> https://github.com/20kdc/OC-KittenOS/ it's this one
L78[01:19:46] <finalfxtidus> KittenOS is what hes talking about I assume
L79[01:20:31] <joaoadao> he have gui?
L80[01:20:31] <finalfxtidus> Im bad at shell stuff. Im trying to learn some basic lua programming for now. I know some java already so thats easier than understanding bootloaders and stuff hahahaha
L81[01:21:09] <joaoadao> but unfortunally, oc dont run java
L82[01:22:19] <Izaya> Once upon a time you could get computers with like 4MB of RAM that ran java
L83[01:23:06] <joaoadao> real computer or oc computer?
L84[01:23:12] <Izaya> real
L85[01:23:23] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxV_pR1ZsXM
L86[01:23:24] <MichiBot> The computer designed to only run Java Applets - Sun JavaStation | length: 30m 52s | Likes: 1,314 Dislikes: 35 Views: 46,708 | by Cameron Gray | Published On 4/4/2018
L87[01:23:49] <joaoadao> lol
L88[01:24:01] <joaoadao> he dont have power for run java 8
L89[01:24:04] <joaoadao> i think
L90[01:25:34] <Izaya> I'd be surprised if it could run anything remotely modern.
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L93[02:04:26] * Izaya hmms
L94[02:04:45] <Izaya> I might need to make a Microtel-based network filter
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L96[02:05:11] <Izaya> Or just make them all capable of filtering, I guess.
L97[02:06:19] <cee> Quick question: I am comparing a string from terminal input using "local try = term.read() if try == "test" then ... end" and it never seems to run the case. Do I have to use a special comparison function or type convert for it to work?
L98[02:08:01] <Izaya> That should work.
L99[02:08:08] <Izaya> Try io.read()?
L100[02:08:18] <cee> Sec, lemme give it a try
L101[02:08:30] <Caitlyn> term.read() includes a newline by default, I think.. doesn't it?
L102[02:08:42] <Izaya> That's what I was thinking
L103[02:08:46] <Izaya> io.read doesn't, IIRC
L104[02:08:49] <cee> Works with io.read hmmm
L105[02:09:00] <Izaya> That'd be why.
L106[02:09:06] <Caitlyn> there is a way to remove the newline with term.read, but I'm too tired to remember how
L107[02:09:12] <Izaya> ~w term
L108[02:09:12] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:term
L109[02:09:42] <Izaya> second arg should be false to disable that for term.read
L110[02:09:45] <Izaya> or just use io.read
L111[02:09:46] <Izaya> \o/
L112[02:10:07] <cee> Is there any benefit to using term over read?
L113[02:10:28] <cee> I don't see a point is using it if it's going to require additional slicing lol
L114[02:10:33] <Izaya> I don't know of any significant difference either way
L115[02:10:47] <Caitlyn> term.read has built in support for password chars, history and stuff.. but other than that... not really
L116[02:11:17] <cee> Sweet. Thanks all! Cheers
L117[02:15:40] <Forecaster> %shell
L118[02:15:40] * MichiBot loads skin-adherent magical rope into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near dmod, Meow-J and Corded. They each take 7 (5+2), 8 (6+2) and 10 (8+2) splash damage respectively.
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L125[04:02:27] <Forecaster> %inv add orbital submarine
L126[04:02:27] * MichiBot summons 'orbital submarine' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L127[04:03:06] <Izaya> We all live in an orbital submarine, an orbital submarine...
L128[04:03:21] <Izaya> Hey, a submarine and a space ship are kinda similar
L129[04:03:38] <Forecaster> that was my idea :P
L130[04:03:43] <Izaya> Opposite pressure difference but otherwise v. similar
L131[04:03:44] <Forecaster> an orbital submarine is just a spaceship
L132[04:04:01] <Forecaster> %fling
L133[04:04:01] * MichiBot flings a sense of humor in a random direction. It hits the ground near S3
L134[04:10:07] <Inari> %give MichiBot an orbital subsoline
L135[04:10:07] * MichiBot accepts the orbital subsoline and adds it to her inventory
L136[04:10:16] * Inari waits for Vexatos to tell her why thats wrong
L137[04:10:16] <Inari> :D
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L139[04:11:32] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L140[04:17:23] <Forecaster> what is that?
L141[04:27:32] <Inari> Like a submarine
L142[04:27:38] <Inari> But below the surface of the sun
L143[04:27:54] <Inari> mare -> marinus -> marine, so sol -> solinus -> soline
L144[04:27:55] * Inari hides
L145[04:29:29] <MalkContent> we all live in a yellow subsoline
L146[04:29:58] <MalkContent> yellow subsoline yellow earwormline
L147[04:31:52] <Forecaster> ah
L148[04:31:59] <Forecaster> %fling inari
L149[04:31:59] * MichiBot flings a golden boy in a random direction. It hits inari in the small of the back. They take 11 damage.
L150[04:33:55] <Inari> %fling Forecaster
L151[04:33:55] * MichiBot flings traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains agenda in a random direction. It hits Forecaster in their pride. They take 1 damage.
L152[04:33:56] * MichiBot Traaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaains agenda returned a DoesNotExistException..
L153[04:36:16] <Forecaster> ohno, not one damage D:
L154[04:36:39] <Forecaster> hm, apparently the minimum value didn't quite work...
L155[04:37:07] <Forecaster> or wait, that was just for shell, nevermind
L156[04:46:05] <Inari> Vexatos: So, does that work, or how would you do it properly :D
L157[04:48:30] <Vexatos> the word you are looking for is solar
L158[04:49:08] <Vexatos> it is sol -> solaris -> solar
L159[04:49:17] <Inari> I see
L160[04:49:26] <Inari> subsolar sounds odd though
L161[04:49:26] <Inari> :p
L162[04:50:38] <Forecaster> %inv add subsolar exploration vehicle
L163[04:50:38] * MichiBot summons 'subsolar exploration vehicle' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L164[04:51:09] <Vexatos> well the word submarine is itself an adjective
L165[04:51:28] <Vexatos> so the word is just short for something like "submarine ship"
L166[04:52:04] <Vexatos> subsolar definitely is the right word though :P
L167[04:52:25] <Vexatos> not to be confused with the Latin word solari which means comfort or encourage
L168[04:52:36] <Vexatos> (where the word consolation comes from)
L169[04:53:03] <Forecaster> subsolarimarine
L170[04:53:04] <Vexatos> which comes from solus which means alone
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L172[04:54:55] <Inari> Guess it's just that submarine has become such a standard usage that it doesn't sound odd :P
L173[04:56:30] <Forecaster> sunmarine
L174[04:57:24] <Gmon01> yo same
L175[04:57:51] <Vexatos> now you also know why a company named Sun makes an operating system called Solaris :^)
L176[04:58:22] <Forecaster> because it's a comforting operating system?
L177[04:58:24] <Forecaster> :D
L178[04:58:57] <Vexatos> yes
L179[05:00:38] <Inari> Haha
L180[05:19:27] <Izaya> eegh
L181[05:19:29] <Izaya> this whole thing is a mess
L182[05:20:23] <Izaya> I really need to separate this up properly x_x
L183[05:20:33] <Izaya> Separate buffer and display tables and such
L184[05:20:47] <Izaya> who knew that writing a browser would be hard
L185[05:25:08] <Forecaster> I know right
L186[05:27:49] <Inari> %give MichiBot a crappy browser
L187[05:27:49] * MichiBot accepts the crappy browser and adds it to her inventory
L188[05:27:53] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L189[05:27:53] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a cutie putie. AmandaCno health gained!, the cutie putie miscalculated and teleported into space.
L190[05:28:12] <Inari> That sounds wrong
L191[05:28:13] <Inari> :P
L192[05:37:51] <payonel> AmandaC: you want to filter events to a process? you want a process to not see touch signals?
L193[05:40:27] <Forecaster> that's slightly wrong maybe...
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L195[06:05:51] <Inari> %fling Forecaster
L196[06:06:08] <Forecaster> fail!
L197[06:06:13] <Forecaster> %fling inari
L198[06:06:13] * MichiBot flings a golden boy in a random direction. It hits inari in the face. They take 17 damage.
L199[06:06:18] <Inari> %fling Forecaster
L200[06:06:18] * MichiBot flings CSS hate in a random direction. It hits Forecaster in their pride. They take 17 damage.
L201[06:06:21] <Forecaster> \o/
L202[06:06:22] <Inari> Wat
L203[06:06:25] <Forecaster> aw dang
L204[06:06:42] <Inari> a golden boy to the face, quite lewd ain't we?
L205[06:06:55] <Forecaster> blame MichiBot RNG
L206[06:07:15] <Forecaster> also it must have a lot of uses if it got 17 from d4's
L207[06:07:34] <Inari> Tehe
L208[06:11:32] <Forecaster> it should have at least 5 uses
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L210[06:23:46] <Forecaster> %fling
L211[06:23:46] * MichiBot flings a cup of spiders in a random direction. It hits daniel right where they didn't expect. They take 5 damage.
L212[06:23:52] <Forecaster> ohmy
L213[06:41:09] <AmandaC> payonel: not just touch, key_down too, but yeah, that's the gist of it. Without cooperation with the process, as well.
L214[06:45:01] <AmandaC> payonel: flash of insperation: Maybe something like an `event.intercept(evt, callback)` funciton, which gets called before any other handlers, and if it returns false it causes the other handlers to not get run
L215[06:46:23] <Forecaster> what if there are multiple intercepts? :P
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L217[06:46:49] <AmandaC> Maybe add a priority fiels!
L218[06:47:06] <AmandaC> s/fiels/parameter/
L219[06:47:06] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> Maybe add a priority parameter!
L220[06:48:12] <Forecaster> %inv add priority fiels
L221[06:48:12] * MichiBot summons 'priority fiels' and adds to her inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
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L223[07:12:58] <Inari> Temia: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbBd_LYVQAAkVDq.jpg:large
L224[07:18:41] <Skye> Inari, that looks scary
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L226[07:30:13] <ben_mkiv> actually i was just sitting like this in front of pc
L227[07:31:00] <AmandaC> Meow?
L228[07:32:08] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L229[07:32:08] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with vifino's keys. AmandaC13 health gained!
L230[07:32:28] <ben_mkiv> feels like theres something missing^
L231[07:32:40] <Inari> Yeah
L232[07:32:44] <Inari> Forecaster broke it
L233[07:32:48] <Forecaster> sh
L234[07:32:57] <ben_mkiv> or is michibot in yoda mode?
L235[07:32:59] <AmandaC> D:
L236[07:33:03] <Forecaster> I may have changed the output of certain methods without checking where they were used...
L237[07:33:23] <AmandaC> %blame @Forecaster
L238[07:33:23] * MichiBot blames @Forecaster for slow internet speeds
L239[07:33:31] <Inari> %whatislove
L240[07:33:31] <MichiBot> Inari: Love is... Forecaster in a maid outfit!
L241[07:33:41] <AmandaC> oh my
L242[07:34:21] <Forecaster> xD
L243[07:34:23] <Forecaster> https://notalwaysright.com/cant-flush-mind/91526/
L244[07:34:26] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbD5q23W0AEqKkb.jpg:large this outfit combines a lot of fashion aspects I like
L245[07:36:09] <Forecaster> shame I don't own a maid outfit :P
L246[07:36:15] <Inari> Shame
L247[07:36:54] <ben_mkiv> %inventory maid costume
L248[07:36:55] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: Unknown sub-command 'maid' (Try: list, create (add), remove (rem, del), preserve (pre), unpreserve (unpre), count, favourite (fav))
L249[07:37:00] <ben_mkiv> %inventory add maid costume
L250[07:37:00] * MichiBot summons 'maid costume' and adds to her inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L251[07:38:01] <ben_mkiv> %choose play or code or take responsibility for my life
L252[07:38:02] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: take responsibility for my life
L253[07:38:08] <ben_mkiv> do that michi... im gonna play
L254[07:41:31] <Inari> "Can't flush mind" Alcoholics seem to think otherwise :p (Well at leats if they are to try and forget stuff)
L255[07:43:35] <ben_mkiv> well... they try to feel better with it, which long term doesnt work xD
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L257[08:03:27] <Forecaster> %shell
L258[08:03:27] * MichiBot loads a gramophobe into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near comfix, MineRobber9000 and GuntherDW. They each take 12, 15 and 12 splash damage respectively.
L259[08:39:44] <Inari> Aand when I feeeeeeellll liiiiikee I caaan feeel onceeee aaaggaaaiiin~ Let me stay awhileeeeee~ soak it in awhileeeeeee~ If we can hooooooold oonnn we can fix what is wrong~ Buy a little tiiiimeee~ for this head of mine~~ Haven for us~
L260[08:54:37] <Forecaster> singing doesn't really work with text
L261[08:55:22] <Forecaster> :P
L262[09:03:29] <Inari> :P
L263[09:07:29] <Inari> Forecaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQpG_CLYoH4 there :P youTube quality of course, but eh
L264[09:07:30] <MichiBot> Gunslinger Girl~The Light Before We Land | length: 5m 30s | Likes: 27 Dislikes: 2 Views: 2,346 | by Chibi Toon | Published On 23/2/2012
L265[09:09:59] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHBqy9EUMAIjYtV.jpg:large
L266[09:10:51] <Caitlyn> @Forecaster I'd let you borrow mine.. but no. :P (The maid outfit, I'm just getting up lol)
L267[09:11:15] <Forecaster> I don't think I'd suit one anyway :P
L268[09:15:57] <Forecaster> Inari: I *guess* I'll pause System of a Down and listen to that
L269[09:16:05] <Forecaster> ...
L270[09:16:05] <Inari> :p
L271[09:16:08] <Forecaster> eh, nah
L272[09:16:12] <Inari> Haha
L273[09:16:12] <Corded> * <Forecaster> unpauses
L274[09:16:14] <Inari> It's so nice though
L275[09:17:39] <S3> ooh look what I found
L276[09:17:39] <S3> http://cd.textfiles.com/aoltrial5/
L277[09:18:23] <Forecaster> that's... nice?
L278[09:18:38] <S3> somebody uploaded an AOL cd from the 90s
L279[09:18:42] <S3> least all the files from it rofl
L280[09:18:52] <S3> even has windows 3.1 support
L281[09:18:53] <S3> and 95
L282[09:22:29] <AmandaC> Wait, those weren't coasters?
L283[09:28:29] <Inari> Sun -> Sol -> SoL -> Slice of Life
L284[09:28:32] <Inari> The sun is a slice of life
L285[09:35:30] <Forecaster> sun-tan
L286[09:35:40] <Caitlyn> ...
L287[09:37:49] <Izaya> of course it's a slice of life
L288[09:38:04] <Izaya> if it were your whole life you'd be a rather unusual brand of astronomer
L289[09:41:45] <Skye> Inari, I'd have bought a maid outfit if it weren't so expensive
L290[09:41:57] <Inari> Define expensive
L291[09:42:33] <Skye> over £20
L292[09:43:00] <Skye> actually
L293[09:43:05] <Skye> it's not just the top...
L294[09:43:06] <Inari> Right
L295[09:43:08] <Skye> so I guess over £50
L296[09:43:17] <Inari> If thats expensive for you xD
L297[09:43:36] <Skye> give me money
L298[09:43:55] <Inari> Some outfits I'd want are actually expensive :f
L299[09:43:56] <Inari> Esp. custom ones
L300[09:45:28] <Inari> My dream is still a "casino" (for lack of a better term) styled lolita dress
L301[09:45:44] <Skye> ??
L302[09:46:16] <Inari> It's hard to describe really :P I need to sit down and try to make a design some day
L303[09:46:25] <ben_mkiv> sometimes i wonder which channel that is xD
L304[09:47:50] <Inari> Basically it would include the card suit symbols, probably checkered patterns too, maybe dice in some form too, checkered patterns, maybe casino-green too in some form
L305[09:49:18] <Inari> Maybe some pattern of alternating red/black too
L306[09:49:43] <Inari> Like https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/atelierseries/images/2/2b/A17_Tess.png/revision/latest?cb=20151030184414 take this, remove the bunny ears, close up some of the skin-showing spots
L307[09:49:49] <Inari> Add some casino symbolism/patterns/colours
L308[09:49:56] <Inari> Make skirt a bit longer
L309[09:50:15] <Inari> And of course not all as just prints/images or such, actual dice dangling from somewhere or such would be nice too
L310[09:59:55] <Izaya> ~w unicode
L311[09:59:55] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:unicode
L312[09:59:57] <Izaya> S3: ^
L313[10:00:11] <S3> aha
L314[10:05:26] <S3> oh man unicode does not work the way I wish it did
L315[10:08:48] <Inari> S3: ?
L316[10:09:56] <S3> well I was curious if the values in these code pages were just moved around or in the original order. They appear to be inconsistent....
L317[10:10:21] <Inari> Huh?
L318[10:10:47] <Skye> S3, if it was "consistent" then you'd have duplicated characters >_<
L319[10:10:59] <S3> thats fine
L320[10:11:09] <S3> it would aid compatability
L321[10:13:11] <Skye> S3, the problem is this: many character sets had the same chars at different positions
L322[10:13:27] <Skye> IIRC unicode works by having "blocks"
L323[10:13:35] <Skye> so they group characters together by purpose?
L324[10:14:13] <Skye> but the order they're in inside the groups tends to be similar to what they were originally from
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L326[10:30:25] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L327[10:30:25] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a bag of fluffy panties. AmandaCno health gained!, the bag of fluffy panties experienced a segfault.
L328[10:31:16] <Skye> %pet Inari
L329[10:31:16] * MichiBot brushes Inari with a rebar. Inari8 health gained!
L330[10:31:24] <Inari> %fling Skye
L331[10:31:24] * MichiBot flings an apple in a random direction. It hits the ground near Skye
L332[10:31:27] <Skye> ~markov lewd
L333[10:31:27] <ocdoc> actually if you want extra lewds Inari your lewdness parameters a westener, Japanese model Misako Aoki|青木美沙子ロリータマナー講座お笑い | length: 5m 3s | length: 1m 49s | by mrholdall | 9m55s
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L335[10:32:08] <Skye> ~markov lewd
L336[10:32:09] <ocdoc> Vexatos, [30] <Alissa> AmandaC, everyone knows you have generally a really sexy though since im fine, thanks, and i thought that on the other side can be
L337[10:32:16] <Skye> ~markov Inari
L338[10:32:18] <ocdoc> well im trying to get data of another?
L339[10:32:21] <Skye> ~markov Skye
L340[10:32:21] <ocdoc> AmandaC, Kotlin is useful but it's not default, that's why you should probably learn Lisp and thus expensively collected.
L341[10:32:27] <Skye> aaaa
L342[10:32:35] <Skye> ~markov Izaya
L343[10:32:36] <ocdoc> so I live in Hell with a pointer you want I can run E:D on Intel Integrated, anyway
L344[10:32:58] <Inari> ?
L345[10:33:16] <Vexatos> That is too accurate
L346[10:33:41] <AmandaC> I have a really sexy though?
L347[10:33:52] * Inari has a headache
L348[10:34:43] <Skye> ~markov Vexatos
L349[10:34:45] <ocdoc> but certainly worth it as I'm, overriding send() and broadcast() and setStrength
L350[10:49:35] <Temia> Have a cute. https://twitter.com/crow_ff14/status/986631901875060737 https://twitter.com/crow_ff14/status/986631958292656131
L351[10:49:35] <MichiBot> Wed Apr 18 10:45:50 CDT 2018 @prerisoft: RT @crow_ff14: アウラ氏…ではなく魚待ち。 https://t.co/aOdHS67QKl
L352[10:49:36] <MichiBot> Wed Apr 18 10:46:04 CDT 2018 @prerisoft: RT @crow_ff14: https://t.co/AV8grgBSTd
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L354[11:23:29] <payonel> AmandaC: are you directly in control of all event.pull points?
L355[11:23:49] <payonel> or are you trying to build a library that doesn't know the executing code
L356[11:25:03] <AmandaC> payonel: I'd rather the event.pull points not have to worry about it. The specific usecase I'm thinking of that I'd like this for is my screensaver rc service, which turns the screen off if there's no touch or key_down event in X seconds, when the user wakes the screen back up by typing or touching, I have no way to suppress that event from also being sent to whatever the user is running.
L357[11:25:36] <AmandaC> but I can see it also being helpful for masking modem events that you don't want the apps to need to worry about form a library, as well
L358[11:27:02] <AmandaC> My screensaver pushes some signals when it turns the screen off/on, so it's not out of the realm of posisbility for whatever app I code to set a flag to ignore those events while it's off, but that doesn't really work for code I don't control / have energy to modify (such as the terminal, or lua shell, etc )
L359[11:27:20] <payonel> AmandaC: two threads could do it
L360[11:27:25] <payonel> imo, quite nicely
L361[11:27:45] <payonel> 1 thread waits for no activity
L362[11:27:49] <payonel> the other thread is the main program
L363[11:28:08] <AmandaC> payonel: My idea with the screensaver was that it's just a system-wide service.
L364[11:28:09] <payonel> when the screen saver thread sees no activity, it suspend the other thread
L365[11:28:21] <payonel> fine, suspend the rest of the system
L366[11:28:29] <AmandaC> O.o you can do that?
L367[11:28:37] <payonel> well yes and no
L368[11:28:54] <payonel> currently your main shell runs in the init process
L369[11:29:01] <payonel> and currently there is no way to suspend the init thread
L370[11:29:06] <payonel> it's the one special thread
L371[11:29:12] <AmandaC> heh
L372[11:29:16] <payonel> but yes because you could run a new system thread
L373[11:29:25] <payonel> and then you own it
L374[11:29:34] <AmandaC> And just never return from the start() call in my rc?
L375[11:29:37] <payonel> the user wouldn't know they're in your thread and not init
L376[11:29:54] <payonel> hm, as an rc? i have a mtg, i'll be back later
L377[11:29:57] <payonel> let me give it some thought?
L378[11:30:06] <AmandaC> sure, just ping me when you're around. :)
L379[11:52:44] <payonel> AmandaC: so i'm conflicted. the suspended thread feature was intended for signal deprivation, exactly as you want. but -- hosting the init proc, and the first shell proc, in threads was out of scope simply due to memory costs
L380[11:52:53] <payonel> the thread lib is about 35k iirc
L381[11:53:42] <payonel> hijacking the init process to not get events, or to run a shell from an rc daemon, would all be pretty hacky
L382[11:54:01] <payonel> thus far my best idea would be to use a custom $SHELL
L383[11:54:08] <payonel> one that DOES spawn shell in a thread
L384[11:55:25] <payonel> init runs require("shell").getShell() AFTER your rc's start() has been called
L385[11:55:59] <payonel> so your rc could set $SHELL (which is used by shell.getShell())
L386[11:56:45] <payonel> anyways, it's not ideal, but the fault is that our init is not a thread
L387[11:56:58] <payonel> if init were to be a thread one day, this solution would still work
L388[11:57:06] <payonel> i could write something up for you to consider
L389[11:58:28] <payonel> Inari: !!!!!!
L390[11:58:31] <payonel> https://imgur.com/a/8i8wX
L391[12:05:22] <AmandaC> payonel: hrm.
L392[12:05:53] <AmandaC> payonel: Suspending the thread would also suspend timers, wouldn't it?
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L394[12:09:32] <AmandaC> payonel: I'd ideally want something more targeted, anyway, it seems like over-kill to starve a thread of every event when all that the screensaver cares about is the key_down and various touch events
L395[12:18:52] <payonel> AmandaC: yes, suspended threads are 100% starved
L396[12:19:26] <payonel> well i'm conflicted, i don't agree there should be a way to block all signals
L397[12:19:31] <payonel> in the way you describe
L398[12:19:50] <AmandaC> payonel: hrm. That'd break a lot of app's expectations though. If my screensaver suspends every app enritely, whenever a user idles on their computer, after a few minutes their IRC will ping out, for example
L399[12:19:56] <payonel> but i'm not rejecting the idea right off, ill let the idea simmer
L400[12:21:21] <payonel> btw, back to an earlier question i had
L401[12:21:25] <AmandaC> For now I guess I'll implement my "set a flag on screensaver_show and clear after a touch/drag/key event" thing, though it's not exactly a perfect solution
L402[12:21:38] <payonel> i asked if this was a case where you have direct control of the event.pull call points, or if this is a lib
L403[12:21:41] <payonel> it is definitely a lib
L404[12:24:10] <AmandaC> yeah, def a lib
L405[12:24:45] <AmandaC> My brain just has a hard time considering rc stuff as a lib, even though they are very similar in openos
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L407[12:35:02] <AmandaC> there, setting a flag on screensaver_show and clearing it on screensaver_hide works like a charm, although it's not quite what I'd like, it'll do until we have some other thing
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L409[12:41:55] <payonel> AmandaC: well, not a lib in the require sense
L410[12:42:09] <payonel> but it is not user code
L411[12:42:18] <payonel> it is code that must work indirectly/agnostic of user code
L412[12:42:30] <payonel> perhaps better to call it system code
L413[12:42:43] <payonel> basically the approach i have to take to all code i write for openos :)
L414[12:43:07] <Izaya> payonel: did you see the thing I did
L415[12:43:14] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/uaillc.webm
L416[12:43:16] <payonel> no? i dont think so
L417[12:43:37] <Wuerfel_21> i hate radians. i hate degrees. angles are dumb
L418[12:44:21] <Izaya> I knew a girl legally named angle. Someone made a mistake somewhere.
L419[12:45:01] <Inari> Izaya: Wat
L420[12:45:13] <payonel> Inari: kitty!
L421[12:45:17] <payonel> Izaya: very nice :)
L422[12:45:18] <Inari> Whys that link red and doesn't behave like a link
L423[12:45:41] <Izaya> Inari: copied and my client keeps formatting
L424[12:46:01] <payonel> Izaya: also, love the shader
L425[12:46:12] <Izaya> :D
L426[12:46:18] <Izaya> It's v. light too
L427[12:46:29] <Inari> payonel: ^^
L428[12:47:06] <AmandaC> Izaya: is that even openos? O.o
L429[12:47:20] <Izaya> It is not.
L430[12:47:36] <Izaya> 20kdc's KittenOS NEO
L431[12:47:39] <AmandaC> ahh
L432[12:49:16] <Izaya> The lack of a lua prompt bothers me but it's nice in a classic Mac OS sort of way
L433[12:49:41] <Izaya> Except it isn't less stable than a one-legged table
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L435[12:50:13] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L436[12:52:11] <Izaya> "This tastes like chicken." "What's the issue?" "It's Macaroni and cheese."
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L439[13:38:20] <Inari> Temia: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbFKvmKVwAAHZXm.jpg:large
L440[13:38:28] <Inari> via https://twitter.com/VorthosMike/status/986652057036783617
L441[13:38:28] <MichiBot> Wed Apr 18 12:05:56 CDT 2018 @VorthosMike: Artificers Assistant by @chrisseamanart
L442[13:38:33] <Temia> Birb :D
L443[14:06:01] * AmandaC paws at Inari's screen trying to get at the birb
L444[14:06:48] <AmandaC> I demand you lower this force field at once, Inari! I must play with the birb!
L445[14:16:44] <Wuerfel_21> can we please burn floating point?
L446[14:17:03] <Wuerfel_21> do it, before we all have to
L447[14:17:22] <Wuerfel_21> **EXPERIENCE INEXPLICABLE FLOATING POINT BUGS LIKE NEVER BEFORE**
L448[14:19:02] <Inari> AmandaC: I don't think Temia would be happy about that
L449[14:19:54] * Temia gives AmandaC a jingly toy magpie
L450[14:20:32] * AmandaC play-wrestles with it
L451[14:28:47] <Arcan> floating point has its uses
L452[14:33:00] <Wuerfel_21> yeah, sure
L453[14:33:31] <Wuerfel_21> but you get to spend ages debugging shit only to find out you have to change
L454[14:34:29] <Wuerfel_21> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/rerucewawe
L455[14:34:50] <Wuerfel_21> Message contained 4 or more newlines and was pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/yalabarije
L456[14:35:56] <Wuerfel_21> the problem being that them being equal is a rather rare edge case
L457[14:48:45] <Inari> I prefer levitating point personally
L458[14:58:31] <Wuerfel_21> ?
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L460[15:13:14] <Temia> Everyone has to cut their teeth on equality tests being generally useless for floating point.
L461[15:14:01] <Temia> And margins of error are always variable across use cases.
L462[15:16:18] * CompanionCube casts Wuerfel_21 to a float
L463[15:18:45] <Wuerfel_21> oh noes
L464[15:19:08] <Wuerfel_21> i will seek revenge!
L465[15:19:33] <Wuerfel_21> just 0.99999999999999999999999999999999145465464684 minutes, ill be right back!
L466[15:30:19] <Wuerfel_21> ok, just -0.1544545454856415641e69 miuntes to go till my revenge can begin!
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L468[15:33:32] <AmandaC> %choose code or anime
L469[15:33:32] <MichiBot> AmandaC: code
L470[15:47:28] <Pablu> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/413151514668957696/436265478957039649/Screenshot_from_2018-04-18_22-41-03.png
L471[15:47:40] <Pablu> gg
L472[15:57:16] <Wuerfel_21> what is this madness?
L473[15:58:33] <Corded> * <Pablu> M A G I C
L474[15:58:41] <AmandaC> More like unicode box glyphs
L475[15:58:58] <Pablu> Ask @nexustix , he's the one
L476[16:00:32] <Wuerfel_21> he thicc?
L477[16:01:00] <Pablu> yeah
L478[16:01:07] <Pablu> Nexu's thicc
L479[16:01:47] <Pablu> It's not box glyphs tho
L480[16:01:52] <AmandaC> Hrm. do I want to totally break my base elevator just to do this, or not...
L481[16:02:03] <nexustix> It uses the Braille part of Unicode to draw single pixels
L482[16:02:05] <AmandaC> %choose totally break everything about the elevator or don't
L483[16:02:05] <MichiBot> AmandaC: totally break everything about the elevator
L484[16:02:27] <Pablu> I wish it worked the same way on xterm
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L486[16:07:22] <Inari> <Temia> Everyone has to cut their teeth
L487[16:07:27] <Inari> Nownow, we know you like sharp teeth
L488[16:07:30] <Temia> :P
L489[16:10:22] * Skye gnaws on Inari
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L491[16:16:44] <Inari> %pet Skye
L492[16:16:44] * MichiBot pets Skye with maid costume. Skye20 health gained!
L493[16:21:28] * Skye squees
L494[16:21:32] <Skye> thanks Inari
L495[16:21:32] <Skye> :D
L496[16:21:37] * Skye wears maid costume
L497[16:41:44] <AmandaC> Huzzah, discovering what microcontrollers on the network are running a specific eeprom assigned by PXE, then querying that microcontroller for it's config data: https://nc.ddna.co/index.php/s/BNsmy66cgDoX7xw
L498[16:42:11] <AmandaC> Now to just assign and restart the remaining 6 microcontrollers for the other 6 floors of my base!
L499[16:42:37] <AmandaC> and then configure my elevator script to actually pull from that instead of having it hard-coded into a config file
L500[16:43:27] <Molinko> What is this lilac stuff. Networking lib?
L501[16:43:35] <AmandaC> base RPC System
L502[16:43:56] <Molinko> Public?
L503[16:44:04] <Molinko> Can I peep it?
L504[16:45:41] <AmandaC> https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver
L505[16:45:59] <AmandaC> That has all my OC code, including lilac, in a giant mess I just mount into my base via gitlabfs
L506[16:46:14] <AmandaC> ( gitlabfs being under bin/gitlabfs.lua )
L507[16:47:09] <S3> v
L508[16:47:11] <S3> http://vg5b2ejdwb-flywheel.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/swindons-magic-roundabout-how-does-it-work.jpg
L509[16:47:21] <S3> designed by people who jave no civil engineering skills!
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L511[17:01:35] <S3> hey lp
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L513[17:06:55] * AmandaC wanders off to watch some anime, now that she's happy with the beginnings of this code for her eleveator 2.0
L514[17:09:25] * S3 is auditing AmandaC's code
L515[17:10:18] * infina audits S3's code auditing.
L516[17:10:38] <AmandaC> The elevator part wasn't committed yet because I'm not happy with it yet
L517[17:11:14] <AmandaC> Rather, I expect when I start on the controller part it'll have some quirks to work though
L518[17:12:22] <S3> ;filesystem... but theres glasses support wut
L519[17:14:14] <AmandaC> It's literally my entire collection of OC code
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L521[17:30:34] <S3> ohhh
L522[17:35:01] <S3> Is there a git cloner for OC?
L523[17:37:09] <S3> I mean all you'd need is diff and some HTTP wrapper to make most of it work I'd think
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L527[18:13:57] <CompanionCube> S3: no
L528[18:14:19] <S3> speaking of crazies
L529[18:14:28] * CompanionCube had the idea for a SCCS-style VCS but never actually made it do anything
L530[18:14:48] <S3> I wonder if there's a pattern between ANSI and unicode I can write a simple conversion function for
L531[18:20:17] <S3> If not I have a plane
L532[18:20:26] <S3> CP_ACP conversion config files
L533[18:34:07] <Arcan> S3: ASCII and unicode?
L534[18:37:41] <Arcan> S3: if ANSI == ASC-II:
L535[18:38:07] <Arcan> the printable ascii characters are in the same places in unicode
L536[18:38:18] <Arcan> so ascii 0x37 is the same as \u0037
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L542[20:41:03] <joaoadao> izaya
L543[20:41:07] <joaoadao> ?
L544[21:48:59] <AmandaC> %choose be responsible and tell him he can't win or don't
L545[21:48:59] <MichiBot> AmandaC: don't
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L548[23:43:42] <S3> o I procrasinated on my month project in one of my classes until the day it is due
L549[23:43:45] <S3> but I am lucky
L550[23:43:50] <S3> becausse looking at the rubric
L551[23:44:08] <S3> I just got 25% of my grade for cloning his git repository
L552[23:44:08] <S3> XD
L553[23:44:32] <S3> I procrastinated but not really all that purposefully
L554[23:44:38] <S3> I mean I had shit going on but still
L555[23:45:41] ⇦ Quits: Cervator (Cervator!~Thunderbi@2601:4c1:4001:1d5d:18ea:baee:8a45:3b27) (Quit: Cervator)
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