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L4[00:25:32] <Izaya> https://comfy.moe/tdijvi.jpg ???
L5[00:38:20] <Forecaster> Don't lease out the thing! Don't! It's illegal! The sticker said so!
L6[00:42:59] <Izaya> Someone posted it in another channel. Wonder where they got it...
L7[00:43:16] <Izaya> Unrelated: Is there a good non-Sphax texture pack for recent versions of MC with good mod support?
L8[00:44:13] <asie> Unity? Faithful?
L9[00:47:46] <Izaya> Unity is nice, like uh
L10[00:47:49] <Izaya> what was it
L11[00:47:51] <Izaya> Quandry?
L12[00:55:45] <Izaya> is there anything recent like JSTR?
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L15[03:40:40] <Inari> https://twitter.com/epidemian/status/966889630917304320
L16[03:40:40] <MichiBot> Thu Feb 22 22:17:06 CST 2018 @epidemian: Couldn't go to sleep without taking this out of my head, remembering that i suck at drawing, and realising this "jo… https://t.co/XZx3rUUWuT
L17[03:40:47] <Inari> Forecaster: ^
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L19[03:45:03] <Forecaster> :P
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L24[06:07:20] <ben_mkiv> gotta love it... >100 downloads... 0 feedback -.-
L25[06:27:49] <Forecaster> sounds about right :P
L26[06:28:14] <Arcan> i feel your pain ben_mkiv
L27[06:28:23] <Arcan> because we're in...exactly the same situation
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L29[06:51:34] <Mimiru> I've added a feature, had thousands of downloads, only to discover myself the feature is broken later, like it crashes the game or whatever.
L30[06:51:40] <Mimiru> and I'm like HOW HAS THIS NOT BEEN REPORTED? lol
L31[06:59:27] <ben_mkiv> xD
L32[07:01:41] <Arcan> people are vv lazy
L33[07:01:59] <Lizzian> "it's always been like that"
L34[07:02:22] <Lizzian> also Mimiru, i know the feeling
L35[07:02:45] <Lizzian> we have it at work, especially with the rooms that have laptop cabinets in them
L36[07:03:04] <Arcan> we had ~100 of downloads of releases that...never worked at all...for matterlink
L37[07:03:08] <Arcan> no reports at all
L38[07:03:32] <Lizzian> the students think it's funny to disconnect the power adapter at the back of the cabinet
L39[07:03:46] <Lizzian> they can't remove it because it's cable-tied in, but they can unplug it
L40[07:05:21] <Forecaster> what the heck is a laptop cabinet
L41[07:05:32] <Izaya> it's a cabinet
L42[07:05:34] <Izaya> with laptops in it
L43[07:05:36] <Inari> Arcan: I mean
L44[07:05:42] <Inari> I expect you to start up the game with the thing
L45[07:05:46] <Inari> Before releasing it
L46[07:06:23] <ben_mkiv> well arcan, i would probably drop support, too
L47[07:06:31] <ben_mkiv> but i've also managed to upload a release which didnt work at all
L48[07:06:32] <Arcan> Inari: we did...
L49[07:06:34] <Arcan> just
L50[07:06:50] <ben_mkiv> but it worked in dev environment xD
L51[07:06:51] <Arcan> not with the actual built jars
L52[07:07:02] <Inari> Yeah, so do that
L53[07:07:05] <Arcan> it worked fine in dev
L54[07:07:08] <ben_mkiv> same xD
L55[07:07:16] <ben_mkiv> but NPE as soon as you use it in vanilla
L56[07:07:35] <Izaya> did you delete META-INF?
L57[07:07:46] <Inari> Debug compilled code isn't the same as release compiled code, so you should always try the release verison too
L58[07:08:00] * ben_mkiv used some not so good reflection stuff
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L60[07:37:29] <Inari> Kamisama no Inai Nichiyoubi (despite me not having ever finished it yet :stuck_out_tongue: Need to get on that) Still has one of my favourite scenes in anime
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L63[08:47:55] * Michiyo sighs
L64[08:48:02] <Michiyo> BSOD as I hit save on a file..
L65[08:48:06] <Michiyo> File became 22kb of NUL
L66[08:49:15] <Inari> :<
L67[08:49:23] <Inari> What file
L68[08:50:22] <Inari> Also I still hold the belief that proper file saving should be done as: 1) create copy of file, or of the part that is to be modified. 2) verify copy 3) write 4) verify write
L69[08:51:56] <Michiyo> The main action on my app, It's on git, but I'd been working on it this morning and lost 2ish hours of work
L70[08:52:02] <Michiyo> that I don't remember.
L71[08:52:29] <Inari> Sucks
L72[08:52:40] <Inari> Make more commits I guess
L73[08:52:53] <Michiyo> I'd rather not commit broken code :/
L74[08:53:15] <Inari> Why not
L75[08:53:29] <Inari> You should make a new branch for it anyway until its finalized
L76[08:53:38] <Michiyo> but that takes effort.
L77[08:54:01] <Michiyo> As I said last night.
L78[08:54:02] <Michiyo> "Everyone has a test environment, some people also have a production one."
L79[09:23:12] <Michiyo> Oh git.... why do you think there are 68,000 changes?
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L81[09:48:23] <Lizzian> 68k lines of NULL
L82[09:50:14] <Michiyo> lol, luckily not.
L83[09:53:39] <Inari> NUL or NULL? Thres a difference
L84[09:54:51] <Michiyo> the character NP++ showed was "NUL"
L85[09:54:55] <Michiyo> IIRC anyway
L86[10:03:12] <AmandaC> %choose build a new base or meh
L87[10:03:12] <MichiBot> AmandaC: meh
L88[10:03:21] <AmandaC> hrm
L89[10:06:41] <AmandaC> %choose play or "work"
L90[10:06:41] <MichiBot> AmandaC: "work"
L91[10:06:46] <ben_mkiv> xD
L92[10:06:54] <Inari> "work"
L93[10:07:18] <AmandaC> ""work""
L94[10:07:29] <Inari> \"\"work\"\"
L95[10:08:00] <AmandaC> "`"work`""
L96[10:08:13] <Inari> Thats giving me nightmares
L97[10:08:48] * AmandaC cuddles Inari, to quell the nightmares. Unfortunately, she's laying on her face, which is just making it worse
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L100[10:59:46] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h-u20eMwlw
L101[10:59:47] <MichiBot> LGR Oddware - Datasonix Pereos Cassette Backup System | length: 14m 51s | Likes: 1,812 Dislikes: 11 Views: 18,230 | by LGR | Published On 23/2/2018
L102[11:01:12] <Forecaster> teeny tapes!
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L105[11:48:34] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367570178277507072/416551258653065216/Please-supervise-your-children.jpg
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L112[12:27:42] <Inari> AmandaC: <https://twitter.com/13033303/status/966679913091629056&gt;
L113[12:28:03] <AmandaC> :3
L114[12:28:37] <Inari> payonel: ^
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L117[12:57:58] <Michiyo> So... just put in my 2 weeks notice at RadioShack.
L118[12:58:24] <CompanionCube> so what's the plan for after that?
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L120[13:01:40] <Michiyo> Well... I'm heading to Oregon next month at some point...
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L122[13:02:25] <Michiyo> so finish the maintenance on my car for the 2,800 miles.
L123[13:02:59] <Michiyo> 4506 km
L124[13:03:03] <Michiyo> for my non us listeners.
L125[13:24:58] <Skye> Michiyo, dun dun dun
L126[13:27:45] <Forecaster> and never coming back?!
L127[13:28:17] <Michiyo> I'd like to never come back to Arkansas...
L128[13:28:20] <Michiyo> so hopefully.
L129[13:29:16] <payonel> Inari: ..... what is going on there
L130[13:29:18] <Arcan> arkansas is beautiful
L131[13:29:20] <payonel> haha
L132[13:29:41] <payonel> Michiyo: oregon!
L133[13:29:54] <Michiyo> indeed.
L134[13:30:25] <payonel> our winter was pathetic this year tho
L135[13:30:26] <payonel> :(
L136[13:30:29] <payonel> i like strong winters
L137[13:30:31] <payonel> short, but strong
L138[13:30:56] <payonel> Inari: lewd? ^
L139[13:31:39] <Inari> payonel: ?
L140[13:31:50] <payonel> i like them short but strong
L141[13:31:52] <payonel> :)
L142[13:33:19] <payonel> https://media.tenor.com/images/965d410b66ee425cece8f3e6fc1044ff/tenor.gif
L143[13:36:51] <Inari> I meant [20:29:16] <+payonel> Inari: ..... what is going on there
L144[13:36:51] <Inari> :D
L145[13:37:07] <payonel> ah, that weird cat thing :)
L146[13:37:30] <Inari> It's giant floofs
L147[14:10:42] <MichiBot> Timed ban of SinaMegapolis Expired. Placed by: Xilandro
L148[14:11:37] <Kodos> wat
L149[14:11:52] <Kodos> Uhhh any way to see how long that ban was for
L150[14:11:59] <Kodos> Because I recognize the name, not the reason
L151[14:13:29] <Michiyo> well.. you can hit the logs and look for a tban on the user
L152[14:13:54] <Michiyo> 52weeks
L153[14:13:55] <Michiyo> lol
L154[14:14:07] <Michiyo> https://irclogs.pc-logix.com/view.php?chan=oc&log=2017-02-24.log#L571
L155[14:14:11] <Michiyo> @Kodos
L156[14:14:26] <Kodos> LOL Wow
L157[14:14:54] <Michiyo> wonder why it was a few hours off...
L158[14:14:58] <Michiyo> I blame leap seconds.
L159[14:15:35] <Kodos> Possibly
L160[14:15:37] <Kodos> Good news though
L161[14:15:43] <Kodos> a 1 year timed ban works
L162[14:15:45] <Kodos> So that's tested
L163[14:15:52] <Michiyo> Give or take a few hours... lol
L164[14:16:23] <Michiyo> I wonder if it uses the wrong timezone for setting vs removing.
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L168[14:29:38] <payonel> !tban notch for life
L169[14:30:06] * Michiyo %tbans payonel
L170[14:33:29] <Forecaster> !ban mayonel
L171[14:35:57] <Inari> %choose 002 or 015
L172[14:35:57] <MichiBot> Inari: 002
L173[14:36:43] <payonel> %choose 0 or 1
L174[14:36:43] <MichiBot> payonel: 1
L175[14:36:48] <payonel> thought so
L176[14:40:01] <Inari> :p
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L183[15:29:17] <Kodos> Remind me again how to get a CS services bot into a channel
L184[15:29:33] <Skye> ?
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L194[15:56:39] <Bread> how would one go about making HTTP get requests, and getting the output? in the form of "http://localhost/test.php?value=42", and getting whatever php outputs from that
L195[15:57:43] <Forecaster> @Bread https://git.theender.net/Forecaster/OC-programs/blob/master/weather_updater.lua#L26-35
L196[15:57:46] <Forecaster> there's an example
L197[15:58:16] <Forecaster> `net` is `local net = require("internet")`
L198[15:59:41] <Michiyo> if you're actually using localhost you may need to poke at the blacklist in the config
L199[16:00:21] <Bread> no not actually localhost, just didn't feel like publishing my website to the world
L200[16:00:42] <Lizzy> Kodos, /msg botserv assign <bot> <channle>
L201[16:00:43] <Michiyo> heh, fair enough..
L202[16:00:44] <Lizzy> IIRC
L203[16:00:55] <Forecaster> could've used something like foo.com then :P
L204[16:01:24] <Kodos> Thanks
L205[16:01:27] <Arcan> there is also www.example.com which is held down specifically to be a valid address to make example requests to
L206[16:01:31] <Bread> ok, well thanks
L207[16:02:06] <Forecaster> hardly matters when it's a psudo-url
L208[16:02:07] <Forecaster> :P
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L225[20:02:55] <ZeekDaGeek> Is io.read() broken by threads or something?
L226[20:07:16] <payonel> @ZeekDaGeek: no, why do you think it might be?
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L230[20:16:06] <payonel> xarses: o/
L231[20:16:17] <xarses> payonel: o/
L232[20:16:43] <payonel> you know i have admin rights now?
L233[20:16:46] <payonel> on the wiki
L234[20:16:51] <xarses> nice find on the savestate bug
L235[20:17:06] <payonel> oh golly that took a good many hours that night
L236[20:17:26] <payonel> but oddly, it's not repro'ing outside of OC (i got instructions how to run it in true isolation)
L237[20:17:35] <payonel> so, i need to work back a bit more
L238[20:17:38] <xarses> and the yeild longer on restore, might solve some interment problems I've seen but haven't been able reproduce enough to report
L239[20:18:10] <ZeekDaGeek> Payonel Every time I get to here: https://gist.github.com/ZeekDaGeek/1177c00e88695e2cd4395c25124d66c4#file-program_sync-lua-L555 It's not waiting for user input at all and is just existing the whole while loop.
L240[20:18:11] <xarses> also, yay to wiki admin
L241[20:18:25] <payonel> xarses: yeah, so, if you know the plugin you want, i'll add it
L242[20:18:48] <xarses> it was one of the tagging ones, but I'll have to go look it up again
L243[20:18:49] <Izaya> Is there a RFC or something on how manpages are meant to be formatted?
L244[20:19:31] <payonel> @ZeekDaGeek i'll review the code a bit, but, you should check your /tmp/event.log
L245[20:20:07] <payonel> Izaya: likely
L246[20:20:07] <payonel> :)
L247[20:20:34] <payonel> @ZeekDaGeek btw, if you suspend a thread, it gets no events
L248[20:20:37] <payonel> just fyi
L249[20:20:47] <payonel> like, it'll miss the ones that do fire
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L253[20:24:50] <ZeekDaGeek> Apparently it's crashing every time without an error saying: process library exception handler crashed: /lib/process.lua:71: attempted to call a nil value (field 'traceback')
L254[20:25:11] <payonel> ha, funny
L255[20:25:21] <payonel> so it's losing the original exception for one
L256[20:25:33] <payonel> then crashing again because debug doesn't have traceback
L257[20:25:33] <payonel> weird
L258[20:25:45] <payonel> anyways your thread is crashing
L259[20:25:58] <payonel> i dont yet have a thread exception aggregate
L260[20:26:02] <payonel> i will one day, but not yet
L261[20:26:15] <payonel> for now, and this is a hack that i do not like, you can redirect event.onError
L262[20:26:21] <payonel> and print or log or whatever
L263[20:26:30] <payonel> that's called by the thread that crashes
L264[20:26:42] <payonel> but ... please only do that as a temp debug trick
L265[20:26:54] <payonel> 1. i will not support that long term
L266[20:27:03] <payonel> and 2. it can really screw your runtime
L267[20:27:03] <ZeekDaGeek> I don't understand. D:
L268[20:27:10] <payonel> and 3. i dont like it
L269[20:27:17] <payonel> you dont understand what part?
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L271[20:28:23] <ZeekDaGeek> The thread that's running in the background is one that's polling the Gist API to download files when they change. I was suspending it in order to test if it was the cause why io.read() was crashing.
L272[20:28:28] <ZeekDaGeek> I don't know if it's related for sure.
L273[20:29:22] <ZeekDaGeek> I also don't know where I should put event.onError in my code to make it so it would output anything...
L274[20:29:57] <payonel> i have to deboard a bus and then drive
L275[20:30:01] <payonel> i'll be back in ...
L276[20:30:06] <payonel> well, later
L277[20:30:07] <payonel> :)
L278[20:30:10] <payonel> o/
L279[20:30:24] <ZeekDaGeek> I'll just keep poking things I guess. ??
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L283[21:33:20] <payonel> @ZeekDaGeek do something like event.onError=print at the top of your program
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L285[21:52:09] <MC_master> hello
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L289[22:19:11] <ZeekDaGeek> @payonel Apparently the error is `boot/01_process.lua:18: thread has no proc`
L290[22:30:11] <payonel> cool
L291[22:31:06] <payonel> i wonder if you can demonstrate that in fewer than 500 lines :)
L292[22:31:12] <payonel> twould save me time investigating :/
L293[23:06:29] <Izaya> ~w man
L294[23:06:29] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:manual
L295[23:06:35] <Izaya> gah
L296[23:06:44] <Izaya> payonel: man will read from /usr/man right?
L297[23:07:44] <payonel> yeah
L298[23:08:18] <payonel> oh, you want a man page for your oppm project?
L299[23:08:41] <payonel> `man` uses $MANPATH
L300[23:08:44] <Izaya> yeah I'm working on ingame documentation so
L301[23:08:51] <payonel> which by default is /usr/man:.
L302[23:09:03] <Izaya> shiny
L303[23:09:44] <Izaya> would I be a bad person of I just threw markdown files into there
L304[23:10:37] <payonel> not bad, no
L305[23:10:46] <payonel> /bin/man uses $PAGER
L306[23:10:50] <payonel> which by default is /bin/more
L307[23:10:51] <payonel> :)
L308[23:10:59] <payonel> which is, as you know, a basic scroller
L309[23:11:09] <payonel> so if you want a smart scroller, you could swap out PAGER
L310[23:19:52] <Izaya> Oh, I was just trying to figure out if I could use the existing stuff or whether I'd want to do new pages
L311[23:20:10] <Izaya> though I guess it doesn't matter hugely, I don't have individual program docs, just protocol
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