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<KoxFox>
Just curious, the UUID library is sitll included with openOS in the
newer builds of OC, correct?
<KoxFox>
Just curious, the UUID library is sitll included with openOS in the
newer builds of OC, correct?L16[01:53:30] <Xyxen> Looks like yes to
me
L17[01:53:38] <KoxFox>
perfect, thank you,
<KoxFox>
perfect, thank you,L18[02:00:21] <KoxFox>
Anyone around currently familiar with the Zetta Industries
mod?
<KoxFox>
Anyone around currently familiar with the Zetta Industries
mod?L19[02:01:04] <KoxFox> I
am attempting to write a RF meter program for a request, but I am
unsure on the name the modules use as compoments.
<KoxFox> I
am attempting to write a RF meter program for a request, but I am
unsure on the name the modules use as compoments.L20[02:02:06] ⇨
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L21[02:02:14] <proper> hello all o/
L22[02:02:19] <KoxFox>
Heyo
<KoxFox>
HeyoL23[02:02:55] <Xyxen> KoxFox: Looks like
"rfmeter", but I'm just reading source code here
L24[02:04:50] <Forecaster>
@KoxFox just connect it and list the components
<Forecaster>
@KoxFox just connect it and list the componentsL25[02:04:59] <Forecaster>
there's a "components" program that does that
<Forecaster>
there's a "components" program that does thatL26[02:05:22] <KoxFox> i'm
not at a computer currently with MC on it.
<KoxFox> i'm
not at a computer currently with MC on it.L27[02:05:23] <KoxFox>
:|
<KoxFox>
:|L28[02:05:29] <Forecaster>
ah
<Forecaster>
ahL29[02:05:29] <KoxFox>
Xyxen, thank you.
<KoxFox>
Xyxen, thank you.L30[02:05:36] <KoxFox> How
are you, forecaster?
<KoxFox> How
are you, forecaster?L31[02:05:38] <Forecaster>
that would make it difficult
<Forecaster>
that would make it difficultL32[02:05:42] <Forecaster>
at work :P
<Forecaster>
at work :PL33[02:05:43] <KoxFox>
Yeahh... hastebin tho
<KoxFox>
Yeahh... hastebin thoL34[02:06:32] <KoxFox>
work sounds fun
<KoxFox>
work sounds funL35[02:38:31] <AshIndigo> https://www.theregister.co.uk/AMP/2017/12/13/adsl_signal_passed_through_wet_string/
L36[02:40:25] <Forecaster>
This will surely replace fiber!
<Forecaster>
This will surely replace fiber!L37[02:52:19] ⇦
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L41[03:41:15] <fmate2006> *computer
corrupts*
L42[03:41:48] <fmate2006> connecting too
many computers to a single monitor =corruption
L43[03:46:00] <fmate2006> lol
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L46[04:45:25] <Forecaster>
this is neat and oddly creepy
<Forecaster>
this is neat and oddly creepyL47[04:49:31] <AshIndigo> weirdly
cool
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L51[05:29:50] <KoxFox> Get
returns string, set takes bool, ***WELP*** this is a ... finicky
little function. http://tinyurl.com/ycuj4rqh
<KoxFox> Get
returns string, set takes bool, ***WELP*** this is a ... finicky
little function. http://tinyurl.com/ycuj4rqhL52[05:34:01] <Forecaster>
A+
<Forecaster>
A+L53[05:37:58] <KoxFox> At
least they let you know which is which, but that makes things like
toggle functions over-dramatic
<KoxFox> At
least they let you know which is which, but that makes things like
toggle functions over-dramaticL54[05:38:10] <KoxFox>
instead of just not() you actually have to go make a function
x.x
<KoxFox>
instead of just not() you actually have to go make a function
x.xL56[05:58:31] <Izaya> SAL9000: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Enthusiasts-bring-classic-ThinkPad-designs-to-the-modern-era.194630.0.html
L57[05:59:39] <SAL9000> :D
L58[05:59:57] <SAL9000> very tempted.
L59[06:00:50] <SAL9000> ...aw, no VGA and
no dock :(
L60[06:01:19] <Izaya> lack of docking would
be a deal-breaker if it were a T420 upgrade kit
L61[06:07:05] <Izaya> huh
L62[06:07:11] <Forecaster>
bear
<Forecaster>
bearL64[06:08:03] <Izaya> A275 and A475 are
Raven Ridge conversions of the X270 and T470, by the looks.
L65[06:08:20] <SAL9000> ...stock or
3rd-party?
L66[06:08:26] <Izaya> Lenovo.
L67[06:08:42] <Izaya> Too bad anything
after the -30 stuff is irredeemable
L68[06:09:15] <SAL9000> -30 has the
heresykeyboard too
L69[06:09:31] <Izaya> you can use a -20
keyboard in it though
L70[06:09:49] <Izaya> (of course, you can
just install coreboot on a -20 and use a -30 processor, which is
probably a nicer method)
L71[06:09:52] <MGR> Raven
Ridge ?
<MGR> Raven
Ridge ?L72[06:09:59] <MGR> It's
coming out for the desktop soon
<MGR> It's
coming out for the desktop soonL73[06:10:22] <SAL9000> Izaya: iirc -20 kb
in -30 = issues, even with the bios hacks it's not 100%
perfect
L74[06:10:30] <SAL9000> s/iirc/afaik/
L75[06:10:30] <MichiBot> <SAL9000>
Izaya: afaik -20 kb in -30 = issues, even with the bios hacks it's
not 100% perfect
L76[06:10:33] <Izaya> Is RR stuff socketed
or soldered or both?
L77[06:11:44] <Izaya> It'd be nice to get a
decent APU board for the TV computer, dealing with a C2D machine
that either freezes at random or stops outputting audio depending
on OS isn't my idea of fun
L78[06:12:24] <MGR> Izaya,
soldered only right now, AM4 socket version coming in Q1 2018
<MGR> Izaya,
soldered only right now, AM4 socket version coming in Q1 2018L79[06:13:22] <Izaya> I mean, I'd be fine
with a soldered board tbh, with that machine I won't be upgrading
it till it dies
L80[06:13:37] <Izaya> Playing 1080p video
is hardly difficult, not that I have much in 1080p anyway
L81[06:13:48] <Izaya> (the TV itself is
1024x768 but that's a whole other issue...)
L82[06:13:52] <SAL9000> a raspi can do
1080p
L83[06:14:10] <Izaya> yeah but like
L84[06:14:19] <Izaya> $100 APU board or $80
Raspberry Pi?
L85[06:15:15] <SAL9000> \o/
L86[06:16:03] <Izaya> Neither are really
very good for freedums so
L87[06:17:18] <Izaya> On the RPi, you need
to use a nonfree driver for 3D acceleration. On a RR APU board, the
CPU has microcode and there's a CPU core or two running code you
don't control but your 3D drivers are free as in freedum save the
firmware blobs for the GPUs
L88[06:18:07] <MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L89[06:19:45] <Izaya> Your choices are
being slowly stabbed or slowly burned.
L90[06:22:00] <SAL9000> Izaya: https://imgur.com/gallery/9PDc4
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L98[06:52:26] <Forecaster>
huh
<Forecaster>
huhL99[06:52:39] <Forecaster>
apparently Star Citizen is being sued by Crytek
<Forecaster>
apparently Star Citizen is being sued by CrytekL100[06:54:16] <MGR>
Why?
<MGR>
Why?L101[06:55:02]
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L102[06:55:52] <Mimiru> https://www.gamespot.com/articles/star-citizen-dev-being-sued-by-crytek-over-breach-/1100-6455634/
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L104[07:00:12] <MGR>
Huh
<MGR>
HuhL105[07:00:22] <MGR> I had
heard they switched engines
<MGR> I had
heard they switched enginesL106[07:01:46] <Forecaster>
they did
<Forecaster>
they didL107[07:01:52] <Forecaster>
a long time ago
<Forecaster>
a long time agoL108[07:02:14] <Forecaster>
last year
<Forecaster>
last yearL109[07:02:16] <Forecaster>
I think
<Forecaster>
I thinkL110[07:02:31] <MGR>
Yeah
<MGR>
YeahL111[07:03:19] <MGR>
Meanwhile, I do cryptocurrency mining research for business
<MGR>
Meanwhile, I do cryptocurrency mining research for businessL112[07:03:48] <Forecaster>
I kind of hope SC get in trouble over this
<Forecaster>
I kind of hope SC get in trouble over thisL113[07:04:03] <Mimiru> https://www.walmart.com/ip/6-Packs-PNY-GeForce-GTX-1080-8GB-XLR8-Gaming-Overclocked-Graphic-Card-VCGGTX10808XGPB-OC-Crypto-Coin-ETH-Ethereum-Zcash-ZEC-Bitcoin-Mining-Rig/379805550?sourceid=dsn_fb_448e2964-037e-4da3-a9b9-ca63cbb8057d&veh=dsn&wmlspartner=dsn_fb_448e2964-037e-4da3-a9b9-ca63cbb8057d
L114[07:04:08] <MGR>
@Forecaster It probably won't affect the release date ?
<MGR>
@Forecaster It probably won't affect the release date ?L115[07:04:13] <Mimiru> Yes WalMart,
that's EXACTLY what I'd buy a 6 pack of!
L116[07:04:58] <MGR> You
want 1080Tis, 1070s, RX 580s, or Vega 56/64
<MGR> You
want 1080Tis, 1070s, RX 580s, or Vega 56/64L117[07:05:12] <Forecaster>
yes, the release date that doesn't exist :P
<Forecaster>
yes, the release date that doesn't exist :PL118[07:05:19] <MGR>
Exactly!
<MGR>
Exactly!L119[07:11:47] <S3> haha my laptop I have
for work, the mac
L120[07:12:02] <S3> a private connection
to google.com cant be established because your computers date and
time are incorrect
L121[07:12:06] <S3> it thinks its
2015
L122[07:12:08] <S3> :D
L123[07:12:31] <S3> I left the laptop in
the car last night, so the cmos battery must have gotten so cold it
stopped
L124[07:12:48] <S3> the second problem
is
L125[07:12:56] <S3> this laptop is so cold
I can't touch it
L126[07:13:07] <S3> damn mac body
parts
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L129[07:15:21] <Izaya> set fire to
it
L130[07:26:12] <Forecaster>
that'll heat it up for sure
<Forecaster>
that'll heat it up for sureL131[07:34:01]
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L132[07:41:42] <S3> Also it's judgement
day in the net neutrality world
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L134[07:58:18] <Izaya> look into shotguns
and EMPs?
L136[08:10:14] <Kodos> %whopinged
L137[08:10:14] <MichiBot> Kodos: Who
Pinged you: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/whopinged?nick=Kodos
L138[08:10:27] <Kodos> Fucking
HexChat
L139[08:10:30] <Kodos> What the fuck are
you blinking for
L140[08:10:33] <Kodos> If no one pinged
me
L141[08:11:58] <Forecaster>
It just felt like it
<Forecaster>
It just felt like itL142[08:13:35] <Mimiru> Kodos, do you have
perl support loaded on Hexchat?
L143[08:13:48] <Kodos> I have no
clue
L144[08:14:08] <Mimiru> Unlikely then..
lol
L145[08:14:50] <Mimiru> Window ->
Plugins and Scripts
L146[08:14:56] <Mimiru> if it lists Perl
there then yes
L147[08:15:04] <Kodos> Nope
L148[08:15:23] <Mimiru> k.. then no, so
you'd have to install perl support when you install hexchat
L149[08:15:31] <Mimiru> and then install
the proper perl runtime for your os
L150[08:15:58] <Mimiru> IF you decide to
do that
L151[08:16:17] <Mimiru> toss this in
%appdata%/HexChat/Addons/ and then load it via the plugins
window
L152[08:16:18] <Mimiru> https://pastebin.com/mJPFEa1G
L153[08:16:32] <Mimiru> afk
L154[08:22:47] <Kodos>
Also
<Kodos>
AlsoL155[08:22:48] <Kodos> I
just want you all to know, that if Net Neutrality dies today, and
the internet goes to shit, it was an honor to meet and play with
you all.
<Kodos> I
just want you all to know, that if Net Neutrality dies today, and
the internet goes to shit, it was an honor to meet and play with
you all.L156[08:23:43] <AmandaC> [comment
redacted, pay 9.99$ for the AmandaC Rage Package to see the
contents ]
L157[08:23:53] <Forecaster>
Just because america loses net neutrality doesn't mean the whole
internet explodes
<Forecaster>
Just because america loses net neutrality doesn't mean the whole
internet explodesL158[08:24:05] <Kodos> No,
but I'm an american, so I'd likely lose access
<Kodos> No,
but I'm an american, so I'd likely lose accessL159[08:24:38] <SAL9000> :<
L160[08:25:18] <Kodos> I
mean hell, my SSI redetermination is today. I'll just be glad to
keep that tbh
<Kodos> I
mean hell, my SSI redetermination is today. I'll just be glad to
keep that tbhL161[08:25:26] <Kodos> But
NN would be nice to keep, too
<Kodos> But
NN would be nice to keep, tooL162[08:35:03] <Izaya> SAL9000: didn't get
around to looking at the papers please thing till just then, it's
excellent
L163[08:37:16] <SAL9000> Izaya: ikr?
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L166[09:03:01] <Kodos> I
suffered from that for a few months in High School
<Kodos> I
suffered from that for a few months in High SchoolL167[09:03:20] <Kodos> I'd
also 'play' the game in my head, too
<Kodos> I'd
also 'play' the game in my head, tooL168[09:04:47] <ben_mkiv> i suffered from
that of minecraft
L169[09:04:54] <ben_mkiv> dreaming of
living minecraft
L170[09:04:55] <ben_mkiv> xD
L171[09:06:02] <ben_mkiv> went even
further, but there drugs have been involved... but was kinda epic
xD
L172[09:06:55] <ben_mkiv> went to sleep
and half awake/half asleep that minecraft world did build up
L173[09:07:15] <ben_mkiv> dont do drugs
kids^
L174[09:07:50] <AshIndigo> %give MichiBot
some ibuprofen
L175[09:07:50] *
MichiBot accepts some ibuprofen and adds it to her
inventory
L176[09:08:14] <ben_mkiv> ...
L177[09:08:24] <ben_mkiv> that was
involved, too
L178[09:10:51] <ben_mkiv> wonder what
happened if neo took the other pill.... :>
L179[09:11:43] <payonel> the matrix would
have been reloaded until the next neo took the pill
L180[09:12:08] <AshIndigo> doesnt the
matrix need "the one" to reload the matrix?
L181[09:12:12] <ben_mkiv> next or
same?
L182[09:12:32] <payonel> AshIndigo: no
that was just the most stable way to do it
L183[09:12:35] <payonel> ben_mkiv:
next
L184[09:12:37] <ben_mkiv> which leads to
the question if he even had a choice
L185[09:12:50] <AshIndigo> oh :/
L186[09:13:31] <ben_mkiv> payonel, which
of the three movies does imply that?
L187[09:13:47] <ben_mkiv> about the
reload
L188[09:14:34] <payonel> well, this is my
interpretation. but the matrix had tried variations to remain
stable and had failed. the neo solution was found to work with
neo-reloads
L189[09:14:39] <payonel> but it's a
learning algorithm
L190[09:15:04] <ben_mkiv> hm, okay
L191[09:15:08] <payonel> so, just like the
previous failures and reboots, if this neo permutation failed, it
would learn+adjust and reload
L192[09:15:08] <ben_mkiv> but how about my
interpretation?
L193[09:15:31] <payonel> oh he had a
choice (as much as any of us have a choice)
L194[09:15:43] <payonel> but he was a
permutation
L195[09:15:55] <ben_mkiv> how can you say
that for sure?
L196[09:16:04] <payonel> which part?
L197[09:16:21] <ben_mkiv> just about
escaping the matrix at all
L198[09:16:57] <payonel> can you rephrase
your question? i dont understand what you meant by "how can
you say that for sure"
L199[09:17:11] <ben_mkiv> that he had a
choice in the matrix
L200[09:17:18] <ben_mkiv> about
escaping
L201[09:17:22] <ben_mkiv> or if it had to
happen
L202[09:17:29] <payonel> ok, well let us
define choice real quick
L203[09:17:39] <payonel> let's have as a
precondition that we (irl) have choice
L204[09:17:46] <payonel> that there is
free will, etc
L205[09:17:51] <payonel> cool?
L206[09:17:54] <ben_mkiv> gotcha
L207[09:18:34] <payonel> i'm not trying to
get into that philosophical discussion. which is super interesting,
sure, but not what i'm trying to clarify
L208[09:18:37] <payonel> anyways
L209[09:18:55] <payonel> you know about
machine learning? (a lot or a little, doesn't matter)
L210[09:18:59] <ben_mkiv> well, thats what
i was about
L211[09:19:03] <ben_mkiv> yea little
L212[09:19:08] <ben_mkiv> adapting to what
its used for
L213[09:19:13] <payonel> like, how you run
a system with variables and then measure the results
L214[09:19:17] <payonel> yeah
L215[09:19:37] <payonel> then you
"learn" by keeping records of variable sets for sets of
output
L216[09:20:07] <ben_mkiv> ok
L217[09:20:17] <payonel> the clever part
of it in computer science is to use statistics and matrices (!
related? maybe :P )
L218[09:20:33] <payonel> to normalize the
results, and find the variables that actually control the
system
L219[09:20:42] <payonel> and then adjust
those until you get the results you want
L220[09:21:01] <payonel> like....if you
are simulating a city
L221[09:21:08] <SAL9000> relevant:
https://xkcd.com/1838/
L222[09:21:08] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name:
Machine Learning Posted on: 5/17/2017
L223[09:21:09] <ben_mkiv> well i worked in
the field of technique of measurement so i guess thats pretty
close
L224[09:21:26] <ben_mkiv> filter what you
think is wrong input
L225[09:21:27] <payonel> you simulate
EVERYTHING. but all you are trying to learn is (for example)
"how do we reduce water use?"
L226[09:21:43] <payonel> soon you'll find
millions of variables that don't matter
L227[09:21:50] <ben_mkiv> ^^
L228[09:22:00] <payonel> anyways, the
complexity of testing every thing is too large
L229[09:22:14] <payonel> that's the idea
behind "machine learning", it's using smart math to
reduce that analysis
L230[09:22:16] <payonel> that's about
it
L231[09:22:35] <payonel> (i actually
really dislike the term "machine learning", it's so
pretentious)
L232[09:22:41] <ben_mkiv> well thats kinda
what we use to call "reality"
L233[09:22:44] <SAL9000> less pretentious
than AI
L234[09:22:46] <ben_mkiv> which differs
for each person
L235[09:22:51] <payonel> SAL9000: :)
sure
L236[09:23:12] <payonel> ok anyways, each
instance of the matrix world is just another test i guess you could
say
L237[09:23:17] <payonel> they want it to
be stable
L238[09:23:27] <payonel> the adjustments
to stablize things is what created neo
L239[09:23:27] <ben_mkiv> thats what
school is for :P
L240[09:23:38] <payonel> and this neo is
just the next permutation of things
L241[09:23:54] <payonel> if he failed or
didn't take the pill or whatever, the system would learn and adjust
and reboot and have another perm
L242[09:24:24] <SAL9000> it doesn't have
to reboot, either
L243[09:24:32] <payonel>
reboot/reset/reload
L244[09:24:33] <payonel> whatever
L245[09:24:39] <payonel> wait for
failure/wait for uprising
L246[09:24:40] <SAL9000> just, y'know,
make another neo next year or whatever
L247[09:24:47] <payonel> i'm not trying to
pin down HOW it would fail
L248[09:25:02] <ben_mkiv> well the reboot
could be seen as the birth of another child irl
L249[09:25:04] <payonel> SAL9000: well,
i'll speculate on that -- i dont think they'd just make another
neo
L250[09:25:10] <payonel> i think they'd
let the world run until ruin
L251[09:25:13] <payonel> it's just a
test
L252[09:25:17] <SAL9000> inefficient,
though
L253[09:25:28] <SAL9000> if neo not taking
the pill = known failure condition
L254[09:25:33] <payonel> perhaps
L255[09:25:40] <payonel> i see your
point
L256[09:25:44] <payonel> it could be
L257[09:25:49] <ben_mkiv> but would neo
even end in the pill situation if he wouldnt pick the correct
pill?
L258[09:25:50] <SAL9000> also, recurrent
neural networks
L259[09:25:55] <ben_mkiv> i guess some
good ai would prevent that case
L260[09:25:56] <SAL9000> rather than just
deep learning
L261[09:26:24] <SAL9000> although I dunno
if RNNs can be trained online (yet)
L262[09:27:03] <SAL9000> ...what am I
saying, the time dimension is involved *anyway*.
L263[09:27:30] <SAL9000> question boils
down to whether it's a case of setting initial conditions &
evaluating, versus initial conditions + system reactions
L264[09:27:34] <ben_mkiv> payonel, your
theory is correct
L265[09:27:35] <SAL9000> the latter would
require RNN-like things
L266[09:27:50] <ben_mkiv> but it starts
with the pill
L267[09:27:52] <ben_mkiv> doesnt it?
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L269[09:29:10] <payonel> starts? i dont
know when the matrix "starts" but i would guess it starts
in one of two places. 1. about when neo is born, or 2. "adam
and eve"
L270[09:29:19] <ben_mkiv> well its the
"twistpoint"
L271[09:29:26] <SAL9000> 3. time after the
machines took over IRL
L272[09:29:26] <payonel> the only reason i
think it could be #2 is ... it never explains what the
"beginning" is like
L273[09:29:41] <SAL9000> s/IRL/IRL in the
movie/
L274[09:29:41] <MichiBot> <SAL9000>
3. time after the machines took over IRL in the movie
L275[09:29:42] <payonel> if it just
started "all of a sudden" ... is the matrix building fake
memories for all humans?
L276[09:29:46] <SAL9000> yes
L277[09:30:16] <SAL9000> I remember
something to the effect of:
L278[09:30:25] <SAL9000> 1) humans build
the computers, etc.
L279[09:30:37] <SAL9000> 2) year 21xx or
whatever the whole machine vs human conflict kicks off
L280[09:30:46] <SAL9000> 3) the matrix is
created, 99.9% of humans captured & plugged in
L281[09:30:57] <SAL9000> 4) the simulated
reality kicks off in year 19xx (?)
L282[09:31:06] <SAL9000> 5) [time
passes]
L283[09:31:09] <SAL9000> 6) events of the
movies.
L284[09:31:18] <payonel> i get the
timeline
L285[09:31:34] <SAL9000> so the start
point is year 19xx, not neo's birth or adam and eve
L286[09:31:36] <payonel> but i dont feel
the story explicitly pinpoints the exact start time of each
reload
L287[09:31:40] <payonel> oh right
L288[09:31:42] <payonel> it did
L289[09:31:48] <SAL9000> (although neo
might have been born in 19xx)
L290[09:31:52] <payonel> yeah
L291[09:31:55] <payonel> so time before
it
L292[09:32:06] <payonel> ok i take that
back. i agree with SAL9000 on the start time
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L294[09:33:18] <ben_mkiv> the thing is,
that people are building the matrix kinda now
L295[09:33:23] <ben_mkiv> irl
L296[09:33:24] <SAL9000> i.e. VR?
L297[09:33:30] <ben_mkiv> even
minecraft
L298[09:33:31] <Forecaster>
why does me posting things from imgur result in long
conversations
<Forecaster>
why does me posting things from imgur result in long
conversationsL299[09:33:35] <ben_mkiv> which provides
the basics
L300[09:33:52] <ben_mkiv> may be blocky...
but show me a more detailed game...
L301[09:33:58] <ben_mkiv> with all those
mods around
L302[09:34:14] *
SAL9000 points to GTAIV/V
L303[09:34:18] <ben_mkiv> nope
L304[09:34:23] <ben_mkiv> thats just
gfx/vfx
L305[09:34:24] <SAL9000> it's being used
in all seriousness by researchers to train self-driving cars
L306[09:34:35] <ben_mkiv> ok, maybe
physics, too
L307[09:34:41] <SAL9000> mostly because of
the gfx
L308[09:34:53] <ben_mkiv> but many games
have physics which are related to real physics
L309[09:34:58] <SAL9000> yes
L310[09:35:11] <SAL9000> although no game
can afford to simulate everything
L311[09:35:22] <ben_mkiv> not yet, but in
21xx :P
L312[09:35:28] <SAL9000> cloth/fur
physics
L313[09:35:29] <ben_mkiv> so here we
are
L314[09:35:30] <ben_mkiv> :D
L315[09:35:42] <SAL9000> heck,
aerodynamics is still an intractable problem in the general
case
L316[09:35:46] <ben_mkiv> building the
matrix in the matrix or something
L317[09:35:54] <SAL9000> i.e. we have to
use wind tunnels because we have no fucking clue how air
behaves
L318[09:36:00] <ben_mkiv> yet
L319[09:36:01] <SAL9000> water is a bit
easier
L320[09:36:17] <ben_mkiv> actually we know
how air behaves on small scale
L321[09:36:24] <ben_mkiv> thats why wind
tunnels work
L322[09:37:01] <SAL9000> I mean that we
can't predict with a decent degree of accuracy the (non-laminar)
flows of air around an arbitrary shape
L323[09:37:14] <SAL9000> there's empirical
formulae for spheres, cubes, wings, etc.
L324[09:37:27] <ben_mkiv> but it ends up
to be math
L325[09:37:33] <SAL9000> *empirical*
L326[09:37:34] <ben_mkiv> so
computeable
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L328[09:37:44] <ben_mkiv> computable
L329[09:37:45] <SAL9000> i.e. magic
constants that only work in a given range of input values
L330[09:37:55] <SAL9000> for particular
shapes
L331[09:38:02] <SAL9000> not for
arbitrary shapes
L332[09:38:19] <ben_mkiv> break it down to
tris and i guess its solveable pretty close
L333[09:38:28] <SAL9000> so, yes, we can
predict the behaviour of a wing -- because we've put lots of wings
in wind tunnels.
L334[09:38:29] <ben_mkiv> :P
L335[09:38:34] <SAL9000> laminar flows,
yes
L336[09:38:38] <SAL9000> turbulent flows,
good luck,
L337[09:39:52] <ben_mkiv> arent turbulents
just a result of exchange from hotter to colder air?
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L340[09:40:41] <SAL9000> :-)
L341[09:41:37] <ben_mkiv> well ok,
simulating wombat may take some years, too
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L343[09:41:50] <SAL9000> I don't recall
the name for those thermal(?) flows, but turbulent flows are caused
by (among other things) surface irregularities
L344[09:41:56] <SAL9000> think wingtip
vortices
L345[09:42:17] <ben_mkiv> do you really
think they are irregularities?
L346[09:42:23] <ben_mkiv> or just not
understood yet?
L347[09:42:28] <SAL9000> um
L348[09:42:37] <SAL9000> irregularities in
the *surface* i.e. not smooth things like spikes
L349[09:42:42] <ben_mkiv> oh, ok
L350[09:43:06] <SAL9000> or water foaming
around a swimmer
L351[09:43:14] <SAL9000> as opposed to
water not foaming around a fish
L352[09:44:49] <payonel> SquidDev:
poke
L353[09:45:14] <SAL9000> on another note,
anyone here who knows stuff about mirrorless cameras?
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L355[09:47:22] <SquidDev> payonel: Hai!
I've seen your comments - currently mid-exams so I'll try to have a
look this weekend if that's OK?
L356[09:47:33] <payonel> yeah of course,
but i had a quick question
L357[09:47:53] <payonel> and, you're
welcome to laugh at me :) i tend to know quite a lot about the mod
AND quite a little at the same time
L358[09:48:11] <payonel> due to nearly 99%
of my exposure being just to working on the os
L359[09:48:31] <payonel> anyways, when i
stand on cables sans your pr, i'm not floating in the air at all
like in your screenshot
L360[09:48:37] <payonel> it appears the
hitbox is just fine as is
L361[09:49:01] <SquidDev> It should only
occur when you've got a corner of two pieces.
L362[09:49:09] <payonel> AAH ok
L363[09:49:31] <payonel> well then we'll
talk again when your exams are completed
L364[09:49:34] <payonel> good luck with
those
L365[09:50:38] <SquidDev> Thanks. Sorry
about the issues - the stutter is especially weird, but I'm sure
I've broken something :)
L366[09:53:55] <payonel> oh no worries
:)
L367[10:08:01] <xarses> as an aside, check
with hover boots, too stutters and can't climbs happen all the time
with gear like that
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L369[10:24:19] <vifino> SAL9000: I know
things about dslrs, mainly. What do you need?
L370[10:25:57] <SAL9000> vifino: I've been
thinking about buying a camera (probably mirrorless but open to
dslr), wanted some advice. Am currently staring at reviews of Fuji
X-T20/X-T2. Given that I'll be going off to Sweden next year,
cold/wet weather performance is important.
L371[10:26:39] <vifino> SAL9000: Stills
only or do you need specific video functionality?
L372[10:26:50] <vifino> Or is it the
size?
L373[10:27:02] <SAL9000> I'm going to use
video but it's by no means a priority
L374[10:27:07] <SAL9000> Size/weight is
important, though
L375[10:27:33] <SAL9000> I currently have
an old Pentax K-m (DSLR, APS-C) which spends 99% of it's time on
the shelf now :(
L376[10:27:34] <vifino> Does open source
firmware matter to you?
L377[10:27:49] <SAL9000> nice, but not a
priority
L378[10:27:59] <SAL9000> I'm surprised it
even exists in cameras
L379[10:28:07] <vifino> Magic
Lantern.
L380[10:28:50] <SAL9000> ...holy shit,
that's awesome
L381[10:29:02] <vifino> yep.
L382[10:29:11] <SAL9000> all hail the
jailbreakers
L383[10:29:32] <vifino> If you are not
opposed to dslrs and their form factor, you can get a canon eos 5d
mk II relatively cheap. Like, what, 20mp full frame? Does 1080p
30fps video, too.
L384[10:29:50] <vifino> It's my dslr and
it's fucking awesome with ML.
L385[10:30:34] <vifino> If you want the
mirrorless size, you can get a canon eos m (first gen), does
1080pish video, too.
L386[10:30:51] <vifino> Of course, not as
great pictures as the dslr.
L387[10:31:02] <vifino> But definitly an
upgrade over a smartphone. :)
L388[10:31:21] <SAL9000> Indeed. I'm
assuming that full frame = too fucking heavy, whether dslr or
mirrorless
L389[10:31:27] <SAL9000> like, I want to
be able to go bike riding and take the camera with
L390[10:31:42] <vifino> It's a bit
heavier, yeah.
L391[10:31:47] <vifino> A kg or so.
L392[10:31:57] <SAL9000> full-frame lenses
are heavier than APS-C too
L393[10:31:58] <SAL9000> more glass
L394[10:32:04] <vifino> Yeah.
L395[10:32:20] <vifino> But yeah, look at
the eos m, magic lantern supports it.
L396[10:32:20] <SAL9000> afaik most of the
non-fuji APS-C systems don't have good 'dedicated' lens line
ups
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L398[10:32:29] <SAL9000> i.e. "just
use a full-frame lens on your APS-C body"
L399[10:32:42] <vifino> canon does.
L400[10:33:00] <vifino> all the EF-S
lenses are for APS-C cameras only.
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L402[10:33:07] <SAL9000> same mount on
mirrorless & dslr?
L403[10:33:08] <vifino> EF-M for the
mirrorless ones, too.
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L405[10:33:41] <vifino> SAL9000: yes and
no, you can use EF mount (full frame) lenses on an EF-S camera
(APS-C)
L406[10:33:50] <vifino> ofc not the other
way around.
L407[10:34:01] <SAL9000> ofc
L408[10:34:07] <SAL9000> just looked at
the EOS M
L409[10:34:10] <SAL9000> no viewfinder, no
purchase :P
L410[10:34:37] <vifino> With ML, you're
gonna wanna use the display anyways.
L411[10:34:39] <SAL9000> I'm just
imagining trying to take photos on a bright winter day with that
LCD
L412[10:34:42] <vifino> So much awesome
info.
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L414[10:34:50] <SAL9000> don't EVFs show
that info too?
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L416[10:35:12] <vifino> IIRC none of the
cameras that ML supports.
L417[10:35:12] <SAL9000> maybe that's just
fuji, iunno
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L419[10:35:36] <SAL9000> ah. :(
L420[10:35:52] *
SAL9000 ponders poking fuji about firmware plugins. They apparently
"listen to their customers" and stuff
L421[10:36:06] <vifino> Hahaha, good
luck.
L422[10:36:14] <SAL9000> Yeah, j/k
L423[10:36:35] <SAL9000> their stock
firmware looks pretty damn good anyways
L424[10:36:47] <vifino> Honestly, after
using ML/my 5d mk ii, I'll never be able to go back to a normal
non-ML camera.
L425[10:36:50] <SAL9000> best-in-class EVF
according to reviews
L426[10:37:04] <SAL9000> I'll have to take
a closer look at ML
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L428[10:37:15] <SAL9000> are there any
good in-depth reviews somewhere?
L429[10:37:20] <vifino> Plenty.
L430[10:37:46] <vifino> tl;dr is that
anything you can think of, ML can do it.
L431[10:37:48] <SAL9000> oh and is canon a
dick about warranty?
L432[10:37:58] <SAL9000> I'm assuming ML =
no w/ty
L433[10:38:01] <vifino> re: ML
installation? nope.
L434[10:38:06] <vifino> it's on the card
only.
L435[10:38:09] <SAL9000> aaah
L436[10:38:16] <SAL9000> much better than
android jailbreak
L437[10:38:22] <SAL9000> "you dare to
unlock bootloader? well fuck you"
L438[10:38:26] <vifino> so if you remove
the card, nothing left.
L439[10:38:43] <SAL9000> no evidence
:)
L440[10:38:48] <vifino> yup.
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L442[10:38:58] <Skye> "ML"?
what's that?
L443[10:39:07] <vifino> Magic
Lantern.
L444[10:39:14] <vifino> https://magiclantern.fm or something.
L445[10:39:25] <SAL9000> lol it writes an
enfuse script even
L446[10:39:33] <SAL9000> (for HDR)
L447[10:39:40] <vifino> yep.
L448[10:39:51] <Skye> aw
L449[10:39:55] <Skye> only cacnon
L450[10:39:58] <Skye> *cannon
L451[10:39:59] <vifino> SAL9000: time
lapses.
L452[10:40:00] <Skye> canon
L453[10:40:10] <SAL9000> Skye: which brand
do you use?
L454[10:40:12] <vifino> Skye: only for
good cameras, yes.
L455[10:40:18] <SAL9000> *shots
fired*
L456[10:40:23] <vifino> :^)
L457[10:40:31] <vifino> Gotta piss off all
the nikon owners.
L458[10:40:47] <Skye> my dad spend a lot
of money on a nikon camera? :P
L459[10:41:02] <vifino> my
condolences.
L460[10:41:23] *
SAL9000 imagines dad's reaction when he realises that the antique
cable release he's got works with the new fuji
L461[10:41:32] <vifino> (The glass,
though. Nikkors are pretty good...)
L462[10:41:48] <Skye> vifino, my dad has
some slightly crazy lenses
L463[10:42:02] <vifino> of course. gotta
offset the body cost somehow.
L464[10:42:12] <SAL9000> crazy i.e.
super-telephoto?
L465[10:42:37] <Skye> one requires a
tripod mount on the lens
L466[10:42:50] <SAL9000> yep, sounds like
a super-telephoto
L467[10:43:01] <SAL9000> probably a
full-frame one too
L468[10:43:47] <vifino> SAL9000: But yeah,
the eos m is amazing with ML. unless no viewfinder is a deal
breaker, it's pretty damn good.
L469[10:44:00] <vifino> especially given
that you can get it for very little money.
L470[10:44:08] <Skye> what is the thing
about canon vs nikon? :P
L471[10:44:11] <SAL9000> Viewfinder is a
major point, yeah
L472[10:44:33] <SAL9000> I still dunno if
I can work with EVF -- will be going to camera store to try
L473[10:44:46] <vifino> Skye: ios vs
android.
L474[10:45:11] <SAL9000> and panasonic is
windows phone? :p
L475[10:45:29] <vifino> that's not
fair.
L476[10:45:36] <Skye> so two choices
shitty for two different reasons. one is better for people who know
what they're doing, the other is better for people who don't know
what they're doing.
L477[10:45:39] <vifino> the gh series is
pretty nice.
L478[10:45:39] <Skye> right?
L479[10:46:03] <SAL9000> two choices,
targeted at different kinds of users.
L480[10:46:03] <vifino> Skye: not that
black and white here.
L481[10:46:16] <SAL9000> although, well,
s/two/too-fucking-many/
L482[10:46:22] <vifino> ^
L483[10:46:31] <vifino> sony mirrorless
cameras are not bad either.
L484[10:46:54] <vifino> but yeah, not
having ML is a total dealbreaker for me.
L485[10:47:06] <vifino> it is just too.
damn. good.
L486[10:47:08] <SAL9000> What's your
opinion on 'weather resistance'?
L487[10:47:10] <Skye> is there a nikon
equivalent? :P
L488[10:47:19] <vifino> nope.
L489[10:47:30] <vifino> in fact, there is
nothing like ML for anything.
L490[10:47:35] <Skye> ah
L491[10:47:55] <SAL9000> i.e. I want to
give zero fucks and keep shooting in -5 or so and snow, does WR
actually give me that or do I need to use rain covers and stuff
anyway?
L492[10:48:11] <vifino> SAL9000: can only
speak about canon dslrs.
L493[10:48:15] <vifino> they are
indestructable.
L494[10:48:17] <SAL9000> heh
L495[10:48:58] <vifino> rain is something
you wanna be aware of, snow should be OK as long as you don't leave
it drenched.
L496[10:49:02] <SAL9000> tl;dr: two items
on current shortlist differ in price by almost 2x - and primary
difference in terms of "features I actually care about"
is WR.
L497[10:49:25] <vifino> like, light rain
is fine.
L498[10:49:42] <vifino> heavy rain, you
might not wanna leave it there for hours .
L499[10:49:48] <SAL9000> right. well, if
it's pouring cats and dogs I'd want to GTFO anyway
L500[10:49:54] <vifino> yeah.
L501[10:50:13] <vifino> if you can
comfortably be somewhere without much protection, the camera will
be fine.
L502[10:50:44] <vifino> so snow's fine,
light rain is fine, dust is fine, hail? nope.
L503[10:50:51] <vifino> flood?
nooope.
L504[10:50:56] <SAL9000> right
L505[10:51:17] <SAL9000> >RAW video
L506[10:51:22] <SAL9000> ...whoa.
L507[10:51:28] <vifino> ML, my
friend.
L508[10:51:28] <vifino> ML.
L509[10:51:30] <SAL9000> yeah
L510[10:51:34] <Michiyo> God. Fucking.
Damn. It.
L511[10:51:38] <SAL9000> ??
L512[10:51:48] <Michiyo> Fucking Star Wars
spoilers.
L513[10:51:54] <SAL9000> :/
L514[10:52:08] <vifino> you can literally
drop a 5d down stairs without it even having more than light
scratches.
L515[10:52:40] <vifino> there is a video
somewhere that tests a canon dslr to absurd levels.
L516[10:52:57] <SAL9000> so it's like
those nokias?
L517[10:53:04] <SAL9000> the ones where
someone drove a car over it and it gave zero fucks
L518[10:53:19] <vifino> and the only thing
that managed to destroy it was it literally FREEZING INTO A SOLID
ICE CUBE, breaking it out by force and shooting at it with a pellet
gun, then setting it on fire.
L519[10:53:25] <SAL9000> LOL
L520[10:53:47] <SAL9000> reminds me of
that USB-Killer video
L521[10:54:16] <vifino> Honestly, if
you've managed to destroy a canon dslr, you've earned a
medal.
L522[10:54:19] <SAL9000> tl;dr: someone
made a usb thing which charges up internal capacitors and proceeds
to hit the USB power bus with a 200V or so reverse-polarity
spike
L523[10:54:26] <SAL9000> 95% of the
comments?
L524[10:54:32] <SAL9000> "HOW DARE
YOU BREAK A ThinkPad YOU MONSTER"
L525[10:54:52] <vifino> yup.
L526[10:55:01] <vifino> canon dslrs are
the thinkpads of cameras.
L527[10:55:04] <SAL9000> :P
L528[10:55:11] <vifino> or nokias.
L529[10:55:26] <SAL9000> yeah, thinkpads
aren't the best comparison anymore :-(
L530[10:55:36] <SAL9000> first they came
for the keyboards, then they came for the batteries...
L531[10:55:51] *
vifino hugs his X230 modded with an X220 keyboard
L532[10:56:10] <SAL9000> T420 here
L533[10:56:16] <vifino> coreboot?
L534[10:56:22] <SAL9000> nope, don't want
to fuck it up
L535[10:56:26] <vifino> boo.
L536[10:56:54] <SAL9000> only place I've
dared to do firmware hax is my phone
L537[10:56:56] *
vifino has coreboot, neutralized me and freebsd on full disk
encryption on his thinkpad
L538[10:57:04] <SAL9000> cyanogenmodded it
back when that was a thing
L539[10:57:22] <vifino> hacking/modding is
a sport for me.
L540[10:57:25] <SAL9000> :)
L541[10:57:46] <SAL9000> I can totally get
behind that, except for the "high risk of irreversibly
bricking my favorite gadget" bit
L542[10:57:51] <SAL9000> thus mostly
limiting myself to software hax
L543[10:57:59] <vifino> honestly, there is
no computer or phone that i haven
L544[10:58:05] <vifino> 't hacked or
modded.
L545[10:59:03] <vifino> thinkpad i
mentioned above, phone has god knows what shenanigans going on, all
the custom roms, magisk hackery, overclocked, undervolted,
etc
L546[10:59:32] <vifino> my main laptop has
a bios i patched myself, undervolted and overclocked
L547[10:59:40] <SAL9000> hehe
L548[10:59:52] <SAL9000> speaking of
thinkpads, what's your opinion re: 51nb?
L549[10:59:53] <vifino> iphone is
jailbroken, has a compiler setup on it.
L550[11:00:19] <vifino> no idea what that
is, SAL9000.
L551[11:01:09] <SAL9000> vifino: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Enthusiasts-bring-classic-ThinkPad-designs-to-the-modern-era.194630.0.html
L552[11:01:32] <SAL9000> tl;dr: group of
hackers taking Ye Olde Thinkpads and putting new mobo, cpu, I/O
etc.
L553[11:02:36] <vifino> neat.
L554[11:02:41] <Skye> ooh
L555[11:02:46] <vifino> though i like my
x230, i need coreboot.
L556[11:02:47] <Skye> they're working on
x220 stuff
L557[11:02:56] <Skye> guess that'll be my
upgrade path
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L559[11:07:55] <Xyxen> Is there any reason
that every 1.7.10 build on Travis is erroring, or is that just
waiting to be fixed?
L560[11:10:09] <Inari> I believe it times
out whlie trying to fetch depndencies or so
L561[11:11:12] <Xyxen> It's using the
wrong version of Gradle
L562[11:15:36] <Xyxen> Errors out because
ForgeGradle uses method(s?) that were deprecated in late 2.x, and
then removed in 3.0
L563[11:15:50] <Xyxen> Travis uses Gradle
4.0.1 by default
L564[11:16:25] <AmandaC> it should be
using the gradle wrapper, unless travis was misconfigured
L565[11:16:29] <Xyxen> ForgeGradle 1.2, I
should say
L566[11:17:01] <Xyxen> Yeah, Sangar
changed that in an unrelated commit
L567[11:17:05] <Xyxen> Might have been an
accident
L568[11:17:10] <Xyxen> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/b156684cc635532a5eb3a8920634541b0498a331
L569[11:17:13] <Xyxen> But it's been a
while
L570[11:18:00] <Xyxen> I tested CI on my
fork, and it works fine with the wrapper
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L578[11:59:44] <Kodos>
Still waiting on rack mounted raids and relays
<Kodos>
Still waiting on rack mounted raids and relaysL579[12:00:24] <Michiyo> I tried raids..
IIRC it was a pain because I was trying to access scala code from
Java
L580[12:19:47] <Forecaster>
anyone familiar with screen?
<Forecaster>
anyone familiar with screen?L581[12:20:22] <Forecaster>
I've put Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/acokuxiwic into my
.screenrc
<Forecaster>
I've put Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/acokuxiwic into my
.screenrcL582[12:20:35] <Forecaster>
it seems to create a screen session, with a window with the name
BuildcraftDiscord
<Forecaster>
it seems to create a screen session, with a window with the name
BuildcraftDiscordL583[12:20:42] <Forecaster>
but it immidiately dies
<Forecaster>
but it immidiately diesL584[12:21:29] <Forecaster>
and I can't tell why
<Forecaster>
and I can't tell whyL585[12:24:24] <Mimiru> I just cheated,
and made mine run screen in the start script, lol
L586[12:27:52] <Forecaster>
yeah I'm trying setting up a shell script to run the commands
instead now
<Forecaster>
yeah I'm trying setting up a shell script to run the commands
instead nowL587[12:27:59] <Forecaster>
screenrc is terrible
<Forecaster>
screenrc is terribleL588[12:28:27] <Mimiru> yeah, I tried that
long ago... just switched back to @reboot crons and shit
L589[12:28:43] <Mimiru> @reboot cd
/home/discord/yui && ./yui.sh start
L590[12:29:54] <Forecaster>
I need it a bit more complicated than that I'm afraid
<Forecaster>
I need it a bit more complicated than that I'm afraidL591[12:30:06] <Forecaster>
I need it to create a screen session called "main"
<Forecaster>
I need it to create a screen session called "main"L592[12:30:18] <Forecaster>
then create a window in that called "Irssi" and start
irssi in it
<Forecaster>
then create a window in that called "Irssi" and start
irssi in itL593[12:30:28] <Forecaster>
then two windows for the relays, and run those
<Forecaster>
then two windows for the relays, and run thoseL594[12:30:32] <Mimiru> yeah... so do that
in the .sh that is ran..?
L595[12:33:20] <Forecaster>
I'm trying to figure out how
<Forecaster>
I'm trying to figure out howL596[12:35:45] <Forecaster>
it creates a session called "main" but it's not doing the
other stuff :|
<Forecaster>
it creates a session called "main" but it's not doing the
other stuff :|L597[12:36:09] <Mimiru> when I get back to
work I'll see if I can help
L598[12:49:09] <Forecaster>
siiiigh
<Forecaster>
siiiighL599[12:49:21] <Forecaster>
there's a million answers and none of them work :|
<Forecaster>
there's a million answers and none of them work :|L600[12:59:05] <Forecaster>
attaching irssi as the shell sort of worked
<Forecaster>
attaching irssi as the shell sort of workedL601[12:59:13] <Forecaster>
but it's creating multiple sessions instead of one
<Forecaster>
but it's creating multiple sessions instead of oneL602[12:59:58] <Michiyo> "The FCC has
officially voted to kill net neutrality"
L603[12:59:59] <Michiyo> welp
L604[13:00:01] <Michiyo> also.. ffs
L605[13:00:03] <Michiyo> afk
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L607[13:06:56] <Skye> Michiyo, time to
make a wireless meshnet! :D
L608[13:11:16] <S3> sigh
L609[13:11:22] <S3> let us discover linked
particles
L610[13:18:25] <Inari> %give MichiBot a
linked particle
L611[13:18:25] *
MichiBot accepts the linked particle and adds it to her
inventory
L612[13:19:54] *
AshIndigo pets MichiBot
L613[13:19:55] *
MichiBot purrs
L614[13:20:03] <AshIndigo> yay thats
back
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L616[13:21:48] <Inari> %pet
AshIndigo
L617[13:21:48] *
MichiBot brushes AshIndigo with an adventurer. AshIndigo recovers 8
health!
L618[13:22:04] <Inari> %give MichiBot a
panty turned into a ribbon-bow
L619[13:22:04] *
MichiBot accepts the panty turned into a ribbon-bow and adds it to
her inventory
L620[13:22:23] <AshIndigo> %pet
Inari
L621[13:22:23] *
MichiBot brushes Inari with earscritches. Inari recovers 7
health!
L622[13:24:25] <Forecaster>
MichiBot do the flop!
<Forecaster>
MichiBot do the flop!L623[13:24:33] <Forecaster>
aw
<Forecaster>
awL624[13:25:02] <Forecaster>
right the response module is still disabled
<Forecaster>
right the response module is still disabledL625[13:25:08] <Forecaster>
the pet thing must be a special thing
<Forecaster>
the pet thing must be a special thingL626[13:28:31] <Michiyo> Yeah, pet glomp
and high-five are handled in the onAction handler..
L627[13:28:37] <Forecaster>
huh
<Forecaster>
huhL628[13:28:44] <Forecaster>
what happened to the Character class
<Forecaster>
what happened to the Character classL629[13:29:18] <Forecaster>
oh, it ended up in job...
<Forecaster>
oh, it ended up in job...L630[13:29:26] <Forecaster>
that's not where it was supposed to go
<Forecaster>
that's not where it was supposed to goL631[13:29:52] <Michiyo> lol...
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L633[13:34:26] <Forecaster>
Michiyo "account" is supposed to be the nickserv name for
a user right?
<Forecaster>
Michiyo "account" is supposed to be the nickserv name for
a user right?L634[13:34:29] <Michiyo> LanteaBot build
#445: FAILURE
L635[13:34:32] <Michiyo> GG.
L636[13:34:37] <Michiyo> @Forecaster, in
theory, yes
L637[13:34:52] <Michiyo> Was going to
require NS auth for RPG
L638[13:34:57] <Forecaster>
yeah
<Forecaster>
yeahL639[13:35:04] <Forecaster>
uuuh, how did that break D:
<Forecaster>
uuuh, how did that break D:L640[13:35:09] <Forecaster>
I just moved it!
<Forecaster>
I just moved it!L641[13:35:11] <Michiyo> lol
L642[13:35:40] <Michiyo> https://ci.pc-logix.com/job/LanteaBot/445/console
L643[13:35:47] <Forecaster>
how do I get the nickserv name of a user?
<Forecaster>
how do I get the nickserv name of a user?L644[13:35:56]
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L645[13:35:56] <Michiyo> package
com.sun.istack.internal does not exist wat.
L646[13:36:08] <Michiyo> Ummm theres a
method for that.
L647[13:36:51] <Michiyo>
Account.getAccount(user, event)
L648[13:37:25] <Michiyo> either
MessageEvent, or GenericMessageEvent
L649[13:37:50] <Forecaster>
oh
<Forecaster>
ohL650[13:37:51] <Forecaster>
shoot
<Forecaster>
shootL651[13:37:54] <Forecaster>
uuuuh
<Forecaster>
uuuuhL652[13:38:05] <Forecaster>
"Character" is already a class from lang
<Forecaster>
"Character" is already a class from langL653[13:38:18] <Michiyo> lol..
L654[13:38:27] <Michiyo> so RPGCharacter?
:P
L655[13:38:38] <Forecaster>
yep, my thought exactly
<Forecaster>
yep, my thought exactlyL656[14:16:16] ⇦
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L658[14:43:59] <gamax92> vifino:
halp
L659[14:44:06] <vifino> gamax92: how
L660[14:44:19] <gamax92> the keys are
broken
L661[14:44:26] <vifino> which keys?
L662[14:44:28] <gamax92> pacman thinks all
signatures are bad
L663[14:44:42] <vifino> `pacman-key --init
archlinux` ?
L664[14:44:59] <gamax92> okay will
attempt
L665[14:45:03] <vifino> time
correct?
L666[14:45:13] <gamax92> time is
synced
L667[14:45:21] <vifino> yeah, maybe
that'll fix it then
L668[14:45:31] <AshIndigo> gamax
pacman-key -u?
L669[14:47:00] <vifino> gotta cook me
something, i'll be back after
L670[14:49:56] <Inari> %give MichiBot a
fake MichiBot
L671[14:49:57] *
MichiBot accepts the fake MichiBot and adds it to her
inventory
L672[14:50:10] <gamax92> vifino: :D keys
are fixed
L673[14:50:15] <vifino> :3
L674[14:50:23] <vifino> Glad to be
helpful~
L675[14:57:01] <Inari> %give MichiBot
vifino's keys
L676[14:57:01] *
MichiBot accepts vifino's keys and adds it to her
inventory
L677[14:57:20] <AshIndigo> %give MichiBot
Inari's house keys
L678[14:57:20] *
MichiBot accepts Inari's house keys and adds it to her
inventory
L679[14:57:53] <Inari> %give MichiBot
AshIndigo's chastity belt keys
L680[14:57:53] *
MichiBot accepts AshIndigo's chastity belt keys and adds it to her
inventory
L681[14:58:33] *
AshIndigo checks the price of a lockpick set
L682[15:00:43] *
CompanionCube donates a lockpick to AshIndigo
L683[15:01:22] *
AshIndigo thanks CompanionCube
L684[15:19:57] <Inari> https://catgirlcare.org/drugs.png always
remember
L685[15:30:38] <gamax92> vifino: oh it was
just the 32bit keyring
L686[15:31:01] <vifino> oh i see
L687[15:37:36] <MGR> USA
doesn't have net neutrality anymore
<MGR> USA
doesn't have net neutrality anymoreL688[15:42:26] <Michiyo> Keep up
@MGR
L689[15:42:35] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L690[15:42:39] <Michiyo> We've already
started the wireless meshnet, where were you?
L691[15:43:08] <MGR> Well,
my computer is lying dead on the floor with the door ripped
off
<MGR> Well,
my computer is lying dead on the floor with the door ripped
offL692[15:43:09] <Michiyo> 12:59:58 PM
Central, I posted the result of the vote, lol
L693[15:43:22] <MGR> I was
going on crazy drives, sorry
<MGR> I was
going on crazy drives, sorryL694[15:43:27] <CompanionCube> how did you
b0rk your computer
L695[15:43:35] <MGR> I
didn't
<MGR> I
didn'tL696[15:43:42] <MGR> I went
to eat dinner, came back, dead
<MGR> I went
to eat dinner, came back, deadL697[15:43:58] <MGR> It
wasn't even overclocked above the ASUS XMP settings
<MGR> It
wasn't even overclocked above the ASUS XMP settingsL698[15:44:40] <MGR> It's
why I haven't been on IRC for a few days
<MGR> It's
why I haven't been on IRC for a few daysL699[15:44:56] <gamax92> @MGR Still has to
go through Congress
L700[15:45:06] <MGR> It
does?
<MGR> It
does?L701[15:45:07] <CompanionCube> so, no
beeping lights?
L702[15:45:11] <CompanionCube>
*blinking
L703[15:45:18] <MGR> I
thought the results took effect immediately
<MGR> I
thought the results took effect immediatelyL704[15:45:27] <MGR>
CompanionCube, all of them, including the CPU error one
<MGR>
CompanionCube, all of them, including the CPU error oneL705[15:45:37] <MGR> OH
HELL NO INTEL
<MGR> OH
HELL NO INTELL706[15:45:49] <MGR>
They're trying to say that my 3200MHz RAM broke the CPU
<MGR>
They're trying to say that my 3200MHz RAM broke the CPUL707[15:45:50] <AshIndigo> Oh yesN
L708[15:45:53] <AshIndigo> Oh yes!
L709[15:46:48] <CompanionCube> lol
L710[15:46:52] <CompanionCube> no other
ram to test?
L711[15:47:05] <MGR> I
tested with other RAM, no difference
<MGR> I
tested with other RAM, no differenceL712[15:47:10] <MGR>
2133MHz RAM
<MGR>
2133MHz RAML713[15:47:11] *
CompanionCube remebers the time his stopped booting and complained
about RAM
L714[15:47:31] <CompanionCube> ...so I
pressed the 'memok!' button to reset the settings and it never
complained about RAM again
L715[15:47:40] <MGR>
Yep
<MGR>
YepL716[15:47:47] <MGR> MemOK
couldn't save me this time
<MGR> MemOK
couldn't save me this timeL717[15:48:24] <CompanionCube> which was
weird because I never touched the RAM settings :p
L718[15:48:31] <MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L719[15:48:37] <MGR> Time
to fight Intel
<MGR> Time
to fight IntelL720[15:49:02] <MGR> The
agent is confused on whether or not Prime95 is owned by Intel
<MGR> The
agent is confused on whether or not Prime95 is owned by IntelL721[15:49:22] <MGR>
Slightly confused
<MGR>
Slightly confusedL722[15:50:10] <MGR> I'm
going to be so upset if I don't get a new CPU paid for
<MGR> I'm
going to be so upset if I don't get a new CPU paid forL723[15:50:29] <MGR> Intel
has overclocking software?!
<MGR> Intel
has overclocking software?!L724[15:51:56] <Inari> payonel / AmandaC:
http://i.imgur.com/KEtaAVE.gifv
L726[15:52:25] <MichiBot> World of
Warships || Maximum Meme-o-taur | length: 8m 18s |
Likes: 4,645 Dislikes: 174 Views: 182,719 | by
SharonRoseMotorrad | Published On 24/9/2017
L727[15:52:31] <MGR> The
screaming is me
<MGR> The
screaming is meL728[15:52:38] <MGR> Except
I'm not screaming
<MGR> Except
I'm not screamingL729[15:52:59] <MGR>
YES!
<MGR>
YES!L730[15:53:08] <MGR> They
still offered to replace it ?
<MGR> They
still offered to replace it ?L731[15:53:43] <AshIndigo> %pet
murderfloofs
L732[15:53:44] *
MichiBot pets murderfloofs with an adventurer. murderfloofs
recovers 4 health!
L733[15:54:25] <CompanionCube> inb4 is
mobo
L734[15:54:25] <Pwootage> I
guess petting with an adventurer means feeding them the
adventurer?
<Pwootage> I
guess petting with an adventurer means feeding them the
adventurer?L735[15:54:46] <MGR>
CompanionCube, Asus said that if replacing the CPU didn't fix it,
they'd give me a new motherboard
<MGR>
CompanionCube, Asus said that if replacing the CPU didn't fix it,
they'd give me a new motherboardL736[15:55:55] <MGR>
Dagnabit, still have to pay for shipping
<MGR>
Dagnabit, still have to pay for shippingL737[15:56:12] <Inari> @Pwootage it
clearly says petting
L738[15:56:27] <Pwootage>
?
<Pwootage>
?L739[15:56:39] <Pwootage>
(oh right, I have no idea how emoji transfer through to
discord)
<Pwootage>
(oh right, I have no idea how emoji transfer through to
discord)L740[15:56:48] <Pwootage>
(irc, jeez, words are hard)
<Pwootage>
(irc, jeez, words are hard)L741[15:57:10] <AshIndigo> I can see the
emoji just fine
L742[15:58:47] <pwootage> Opened my IRC
client to check, I too can see the emoji. Neat!
L743[15:58:50] <Michiyo> they transfer
fine... if you have a font that can display them
L744[15:58:53] <Michiyo> I, do not.
L745[16:00:39] <MGR> Well,
I get a new CPU, just have to pay for shipping \o/
<MGR> Well,
I get a new CPU, just have to pay for shipping \o/L746[16:00:46] <Xyxen> I'm Hexchat on
Windows, can't see them by default
L747[16:00:50] <MGR> I'm
fairly confident it was the old one, because my overclock was
dying
<MGR> I'm
fairly confident it was the old one, because my overclock was
dyingL748[16:01:01] <MGR> Xyxen,
that's odd, because I can see them with Hexchat on Windows
<MGR> Xyxen,
that's odd, because I can see them with Hexchat on WindowsL749[16:01:12] <Xyxen> Adding Segoe UI
Emoji in alternative fonts fixes it
L750[16:01:23] <MGR> I...
don't *think* I did that
<MGR> I...
don't *think* I did thatL751[16:02:26] <Xyxen> I've had this
installed forever; maybe I had an old default or something
L752[16:02:41] <MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L753[16:03:11] <Izaya> 01F914
L754[16:03:14] <Izaya> no emoji is
bliss
L755[16:04:52] <Xyxen> Do you just see
them in your head when you read the codepoint?
L756[16:05:07] <Izaya> no
L757[16:05:17] <Izaya> I try to not have
anything to do with them
L758[16:05:30] <Izaya> I have a weechat
plugin that converts most of them to strings
L759[16:05:44] <pwootage> That's
neat
L760[16:05:45] <Izaya> but it doesn't work
for all of them so those ones are just squares with numbers in
them
L761[16:11:32] <Forecaster>
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/12/14/minecraft-java-edition-new-textures/
<Forecaster>
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/12/14/minecraft-java-edition-new-textures/L762[16:15:43] ⇦
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L763[16:15:52] <Michiyo> restarting
corded...
L764[16:15:58] <Michiyo> meant to say that
sooner.
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L768[16:45:51] <Kodos> Rip
net neutrality
<Kodos> Rip
net neutralityL769[16:46:04] <Inari> *RIP 2015 version
of net neutrality
L770[16:50:25] <Forecaster>
Congress hadn't voted yet
<Forecaster>
Congress hadn't voted yetL771[16:50:35] <Forecaster>
Congress hasn't voted yet [Edited]
<Forecaster>
Congress hasn't voted yet [Edited]L772[16:52:04] <MGR> I
didn't know they had to vote
<MGR> I
didn't know they had to voteL773[16:52:15] <MGR> I
thought if the FCC voted, it took effect immediately
<MGR> I
thought if the FCC voted, it took effect immediatelyL774[16:55:02] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/gqoqpd.png cleaned up some
lines n stuff
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L776[17:07:23] <Forecaster>
But combined they become a tiger shark!
<Forecaster>
But combined they become a tiger shark!L777[17:08:21] ⇦
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L782[17:29:01] <AmandaC> Izaya: is that
the famous assassin the reaper dressed as Santa?
L783[17:29:26] <Izaya> Uhhh
L784[17:29:27] <Izaya> no?
L785[17:29:33] <Izaya> It's best girl from
TMoHS
L786[17:29:40] <Izaya> still needs more
work and cleaning up of lines though
L787[17:31:40] <AmandaC> TMoHS?
L788[17:32:53] <Izaya> The Melancholy of
Haruhi Suzumiya
L789[17:33:27] <AmandaC> Ah
L790[17:33:47] <AmandaC> I should watch
that again. I forget everything about it pretty much
L791[17:34:05] <Izaya> You should.
L792[17:34:09] <Izaya> Except the Endless
8.
L793[17:34:13] <Izaya> First and
last.
L794[17:35:11] <gamax92> .-.
L795[17:35:18] <AmandaC> The first season
of that was probably one if the first anime I downloaded a good
long while ago
L796[17:35:18] <gamax92> vifino: hey
L797[17:35:55] <gamax92> maybe Izaya
L798[17:36:16] <AmandaC> God, that must
have been 8-9 years ago now
L799[17:36:24] <Izaya> hm?
L800[17:36:30] <gamax92> I need to reset
iptables PREROUTING rules to normal
L801[17:36:31] <Izaya> AmandaC: I'm sad
there won't be a third season
L802[17:36:45] <Izaya> oh fuck I don't use
iptables if I can avoid it
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L804[17:37:09] <AmandaC> gamax92:
"normal"?
L805[17:37:30] <gamax92> like boot up
state
L806[17:37:51] <AmandaC> Deleting all the
entries in it and restarting the firewall should acclompish
that
L807[17:38:04] <gamax92> was doing
transparent mitmproxy fun but then I couldn't figure out how to
undo the rules, and rebooting the laptop takes a few minutes
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L809[17:38:47] <AmandaC> It may also break
imternet though, so be ready for a reboot regardless
L810[17:40:12] <AmandaC> I think it's
`iptables -D (table)` to delete the rules
L811[17:42:05] <AmandaC> If you don't have
a firewall installed, there's usually an initscriot that does the
basic rules
L812[17:42:43] <gamax92> ahh, use the same
commands but replace -A with -D
L813[17:43:15] <gamax92> maybe, I don't
need the mitmproxy running atm
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L816[18:11:57] <vifino> gamax92: i am not
very well versed with iptables, but most distros have an iptables
startup script using iptables-restore
L817[18:12:21] <vifino> on gentoo/alpine,
its rc-service iptables reload
L818[18:12:40] <vifino> dunno what it is
on arch tho.
L819[18:12:52] <vifino> i avoid systemd
like the
plaguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue.
L820[18:12:55] <vifino> thanks
keyboard.
L821[18:13:07] <gamax92> hey I just like
up to date packages
L822[18:13:28] <vifino> gentoo and alpine
both provide that.
L823[18:15:08] <gamax92> oh damn I just
figured out that this can play multiple patterns on both
channels
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L840[21:35:25] *
Saphire baps payonel
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L842[21:46:50] <KoxFox>
Hey, Saph!
<KoxFox>
Hey, Saph!L843[21:48:10] ⇦
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L844[21:52:26] <KoxFox> How
could one pass a variable name (user) to an array name, like say...
user = "thefox"; foo.bar.user = {} except foo.bar.user =
food.bar.thefox.
<KoxFox> How
could one pass a variable name (user) to an array name, like say...
user = "thefox"; foo.bar.user = {} except foo.bar.user =
food.bar.thefox.L845[21:56:16]
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L857[22:15:29] <SAL9000> @KoxFox: user =
"thefox"; foo.bar[user] = {}
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L859[22:15:41] <KoxFox>
AH!
<KoxFox>
AH!L860[22:15:45] <KoxFox> So
I ALMOST had it!
<KoxFox> So
I ALMOST had it!L861[22:15:48] <SAL9000> ;)
L862[22:15:55] <KoxFox> I
was doing foo.bar.user = {}
<KoxFox> I
was doing foo.bar.user = {}L863[22:15:59] <KoxFox>
okkay, thanks!
<KoxFox>
okkay, thanks!L864[22:16:33] <SAL9000> np
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L868[22:20:12] <Mimiru> %github
enable
L869[22:20:43] <MichiBot> Enabled
github
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L871[22:20:51] <Mimiru> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2663
L872[22:20:51] <MichiBot> Title:
[Feature Request] All items with uuid can be 'reset' | Posted
by: xarses | Posted: Wed Dec 06 17:48:46 CST 2017 |
Status: open
L873[22:21:01] <Mimiru> \o/
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L876[22:42:06] <SAL9000> :)
L877[22:42:13] <SAL9000> no labels?
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L884[23:11:34] <Mimiru> No, not yet, I
have more planned, I just wanted to get it working
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