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L1[00:25:19] ⇨ Joins: Solao (webchat@75.97.233.152.res-cmts.leh.ptd.net)
L2[00:25:24] <Solao> Hello. Anyone out ther e?
L3[00:25:59] <Solao> I am attempting to find a way to get luasql working within OpenComputers. Has anyone been able to get this to work ?
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L6[00:44:16] <fingercomp> Solao: it's written in C.
L7[00:46:02] <fingercomp> OpenComputers' default architectures are Lua 5.2 and Lua 5.3. You can't run compiled C code.
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L12[01:11:14] <Solao> fingercomp: Got any suggestions to getting external mysql functionality into OpenComputers ?
L13[01:14:07] <Solao> Or am I going to go the best route of doing either a web API and basically CURL get the info... Or write something using TCP / telnet style protocol and mysql
L14[01:17:33] <payonel> Solao: you could make an addon for oc :)
L15[01:17:47] <Solao> payonel: I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if someone else has a way :)
L16[01:18:02] <payonel> there isn't a way as a user
L17[01:18:19] <payonel> you either mod oc itself, or make a new add-on, or make an external service
L18[01:18:37] <Solao> hrmm. Gotcha.. That kinda... sucks.. But ohwell, live moves on :)
L19[01:20:04] <Solao> I'll get something working :)
L20[01:20:07] <Solao> somehow
L21[01:20:46] <Solao> thanks payonel and fingercomp
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L26[02:33:33] <Forecaster> %shell
L27[02:33:33] * MichiBot loads a Hrmm bleh into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near medsouz|offline, Arcanox and dustinm`. They each take 2, 7 and 7 splash damage respectively.
L28[02:33:34] * MichiBot The Hrmm bleh was taken out by the mafia..
L29[02:36:24] <`> huh, that's not supposed to ping me...
L30[02:36:28] <`> but it does?
L31[02:36:39] <Kodos> Can it just be 7 am already please
L32[02:39:20] <Skye> %shell `
L33[02:39:20] * MichiBot loads agoriphobia into a shell and fires it. It strikes `. They take 20 damage. Lymia and Stary take 5 and 1 splash damage respectively.
L34[02:50:21] <Forecaster> you can't anti-ping a single-character username...
L35[02:50:31] <Forecaster> that's on you
L36[02:50:42] <Forecaster> also oh wow, max damage
L37[02:57:00] <AshIndigo> %shell
L38[02:57:01] * MichiBot loads a heavy lead brick into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near OneM_Industries, Fridtjof and phroa. They each take 7, 7 and 7 splash damage respectively.
L39[02:57:09] * AshIndigo wins the lottery
L40[02:57:22] <SAL9000> * MichiBot uses Brick. It's super effective!
L41[02:59:26] * AshIndigo adds pokemon style typing to everyone in the channel
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L43[03:10:12] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L44[03:26:17] <SAL9000> Izaya: FYI looks like Gajim is the only desktop XMPP client with sane MAM support, and only in the Git version too
L45[03:26:36] <SAL9000> cc @vifino ^
L46[03:39:32] <Noire> Found it
L47[03:39:36] <Noire> Program terminated with signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
L48[03:39:37] <Noire> #0 0x0000661257bef71b in ?? ()
L49[03:39:42] <Noire> Skye:
L50[03:39:48] <Noire> AmandaC:
L51[03:40:03] <Skye> Uhh
L52[03:40:25] <Skye> That's... Is that the new one?
L53[03:40:48] <Noire> That's the output of gdb reading the coredump
L54[03:41:07] <Noire> I have even more
L55[03:42:26] <Noire> https://pastebin.com/5NR7A1TS
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L58[04:26:11] <Skye> @Noire, I can't program in C. D:
L59[04:26:19] <Skye> Who is good at debugging C code?
L60[04:26:35] <Noire> Head devs I guess
L61[04:30:28] <Noire> Waaaaaaait a minute
L62[04:31:22] <Noire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/436
L63[04:31:37] <Noire> Ah, it has other 0x address
L64[04:36:55] <Skye> @Noire, that issue does have some debugging advice
L65[04:37:14] <Noire> Ye, I did as stated there
L66[04:37:26] <Noire> I did debug thru gdb
L67[04:37:59] <Skye> Could you create a new issue to track this
L68[04:38:03] <Forecaster> happy fox https://imgur.com/gallery/oF1AUJJ
L69[04:38:21] <Noire> Ye, later maybe :D
L70[04:38:56] <Skye> Have you tried setting the worker thread count?
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L72[04:40:43] <Inari> I hath a tell
L73[04:42:05] <Skye> Hey nep
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L75[04:43:07] <Noire> Worker thread count?
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L77[04:46:56] <Skye> @Noire, just read the issue and test ad much as you can
L78[04:47:06] <Noire> Kk
L79[04:48:26] <Inari> What issue
L80[04:55:16] <Noire> Lol, noted that this is 1.6.4 just now
L81[04:55:33] <Noire> And switching to 1.7.10 fixed all
L82[04:55:38] <Noire> ?
L83[04:55:41] <Noire> :neko:
L84[04:57:44] <Noire> How often Sangar visits the discord?
L85[04:58:16] <Izaya> I don't know that he even uses it.
L86[04:58:32] <Noire> He uses irc?
L87[04:58:33] <Izaya> He's hardly on IRC nowdays, either.
L88[04:58:41] <Izaya> Yeah
L89[04:58:44] <Noire> ah ok
L90[04:59:16] <Noire> I thought, maybe he can comment on this problem
L91[05:01:25] <Izaya> SAL9000: yeah Gajim is the sanest client for desktop presently. With some luck coy.im will get support for the important stuff too but presently it doesn't even have MUC support
L92[05:02:03] <Inari> fixed what? o.o your segfault issue?
L93[05:02:31] <Noire> Nah, I've posted issue from tracker
L94[05:03:32] <Noire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/436
L95[05:03:37] <Noire> This one
L96[05:18:53] <Lizzy> Sangars about occasionally, though his day job takes a fair bit out of him
L97[05:20:14] <Izaya> Oh, that's why Windows freaks out when I run Minecraft: the memory management is mildly broken when you don't have swap
L98[05:20:50] <Lizzy> lol
L99[05:21:49] <Lizzy> my problem with windows' page file, is that by default it's set to system managed. meaning it can re-size it all over the fucking place and you end up with it in pieces all across the drive
L100[05:22:37] <Izaya> I don't have disk space for a page file and I'm not going to kill my SSD, having Windows on it at all is bad enough
L101[05:22:57] <Izaya> and yes, automatic management is dumb, you end up with 50GB allocated across the disk because it's dumb
L102[05:38:25] <Forecaster> haha https://imgur.com/gallery/nsG6h
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L106[06:06:24] *** MajGenRelativity_ is now known as MajGenRelativity
L107[06:08:14] <Forecaster> %shell MajGenRelativity
L108[06:08:14] * MichiBot loads a parboiled Robot into a shell and fires it. It strikes the ground near MajGenRelativity, Sangar and Sava. They each take 7, 4 and 8 splash damage respectively.
L109[06:08:15] * MichiBot The parboiled Robot angered a dragon and was incinerated..
L110[06:31:58] <MGR> Aaaaaa
L111[06:34:31] <Inari> %give MichiBot ashes of a once parboiled robot
L112[06:34:31] * MichiBot accepts ashes of a once parboiled robot and adds it to her inventory
L113[06:34:39] <Inari> That would be a nice idea btw
L114[06:36:08] <SAL9000> Izaya: no MUCs even? that's... disappointing. Are you using Gajim stable or git?
L115[06:36:23] <Izaya> pidgin tbh
L116[06:36:35] <Izaya> got my steam in it too
L117[06:36:36] <SAL9000> huh. pidgin doesn't do MAM at all :(
L118[06:36:53] <Izaya> yeah it's not something I'm too worried about
L119[06:38:29] <Izaya> it's a good convenience feature but I don't think xabber supports it either
L120[06:39:41] <Inari> An item goes through two "Phases". It's first normal phase, and then some of the "destruction" possiiblities modify it, like "and was incinerated" re-adds it with "ashes of a once [item]" or so. While other things have other ones
L121[06:40:43] <SAL9000> Izaya: I'm reasonably sure that Conversations (android) supports it, thus my search for a desktop client with MAM
L122[06:40:52] <Inari> Though when it's already been modified like that once it just gets destroyed
L123[06:41:02] <SAL9000> ashes of ashes of ashes of a once [item]
L124[06:41:31] <Izaya> conversations seems to be the best client overall, for any platform
L125[06:41:43] <Izaya> typical that I don't like the UI >.>
L126[06:42:07] <SAL9000> conversations gripes: what looks like broken OTR support and insistence on getting access to android contacts list
L127[06:42:54] <Skye> Does #oc need an XMPP bridge
L128[06:43:13] <SAL9000> maybe
L129[06:43:52] <SAL9000> preferably 1-to-1 on the XMPP side :p
L130[06:44:41] <Izaya> otr in conversations works last I tried
L131[06:45:05] <SAL9000> I tried otr between conversations & pidgin and gajim, both failed
L132[06:45:16] <Izaya> huh
L133[06:45:22] <SAL9000> OMEMO works though
L134[06:48:46] <SAL9000> and looks like the OTR plugin is missing from the gtk3 version of gajim
L135[06:54:09] <Forecaster> Inari: I've been considering that, and have an idea of how to do it, but I'm hesitant because it removes some interaction :P
L136[06:57:51] <Inari> Removes what
L137[07:02:05] <S3> except that XMPP is probably the worst protocol spec known to man
L138[07:02:11] <S3> besides some others which are even worse..
L139[07:02:33] <S3> whoever designed it needs a mental check
L140[07:03:54] <S3> Also, people need to learn that XML is not a very nice tool to use for message passing..
L141[07:05:47] <Forecaster> noun
L142[07:05:47] <Forecaster> 1.
L143[07:05:47] <Forecaster> reciprocal action, effect, or influence.
L144[07:07:27] <S3> ?
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L146[07:18:52] <Forecaster> @ inari
L147[07:20:48] <Inari> Um
L148[07:21:05] <Inari> I didn't mean "What is interaction" I was asking what interaction it would remove
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L152[07:28:54] <Forecaster> re-adding items of course
L153[07:28:59] <Forecaster> the thing it would do...
L154[07:32:08] <Forecaster> https://imgur.com/gallery/yFoH7
L155[07:35:40] <Forecaster> helpful cat: https://imgur.com/gallery/ArUgMJt
L156[07:49:28] <S3> YAY
L157[07:49:48] <S3> senate has reacted to the study that the majority of anti net neutrality were done by bots
L158[07:49:48] <S3> XD
L159[07:53:15] <Forecaster> what was their reaction?
L160[07:53:18] <Forecaster> was it "fake news"?
L161[07:54:52] <S3> they delayed the voting
L162[07:55:24] <S3> you know what's going to be crazy ironic and unsurprising?
L163[07:55:34] <S3> if the bots are linked back to Pai
L164[08:01:53] <S3> also
L165[08:01:54] <S3> https://i.pinimg.com/236x/cd/42/86/cd4286235f75a51c14229adbe949a66f.jpg
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L167[08:02:32] <Forecaster> I don't get it
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L170[08:05:41] <S3> Ahahahahahahahahaha even better: https://t00.deviantart.net/lP2iOm-NIVWLP1NbYAS2zM_9DXw=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre00/70d9/th/pre/f/2017/184/e/2/battle_for_the_net__by_muiti-dbf0hut.png
L171[08:05:53] <S3> so the one I posted before is Ajit Pai
L172[08:06:28] <S3> the one I just posted is based on oh whats it.. rosie the riveter
L173[08:21:46] <Forecaster> I was going to search for "Great minds think alike"
L174[08:21:53] <Forecaster> my fingers typed "Great nubs"
L175[08:22:19] <Mimiru> O_o
L176[08:22:46] <Forecaster> yeah I don't know either
L177[08:25:11] <Skye> Great nolv
L178[08:25:16] <Skye> Nobs
L179[08:25:20] <Skye> Noobs
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L181[08:43:24] <payonel> AmandaC: thank you
L182[08:45:26] <AmandaC> payonel: ?
L183[08:45:52] <payonel> merged your tablet fix
L184[08:48:00] <Saphire> So
L185[08:48:14] <Saphire> I made Starbound .pak parser
L186[08:48:56] <AmandaC> payonel: oh, nice. :3
L187[08:49:05] <Saphire> I just realized that you theoretically could have a .pak that contains itself
L188[08:49:06] <Forecaster> Saphire what for?
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L190[08:49:14] <Saphire> ...I got bored?
L191[08:49:23] <Forecaster> I mean what does it do
L192[08:49:35] <Forecaster> what does Starbound paks contain
L193[08:49:37] <Saphire> It reads the Starbound .pak metadata
L194[08:49:40] <Saphire> Ah
L195[08:50:36] <Saphire> ... They contain a magic string, position of metadata, which is some SBON info (Starbound (binary) object notation) plus a list of files contained
L196[08:51:00] <Saphire> That list also contains offset from start of file and length of that file
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L198[08:51:14] <Saphire> *offset of the file
L199[08:51:40] <Saphire> Now I wonder, what would happen if I set those to 0 and length of file
L200[08:52:08] <Forecaster> Imposions!
L201[08:52:13] <Forecaster> Implosions! [Edited]
L202[08:53:33] <Saphire> Heh
L203[08:54:13] <Saphire> ... And theoretically you could make it so that metadata is put into a file along with all the unpacked files
L204[08:55:39] <Skye> Oh God
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L206[08:57:45] <AmandaC> payonel: can you give me a poke when it's merged up, so I can put it to use in a project I was working on. :3
L207[08:58:50] <payonel> AmandaC: yep
L208[09:15:22] <Saphire> Yup
L209[09:15:25] <Saphire> Works as expected
L210[09:15:37] <Saphire> test.pak unpacks into... test.pak!
L211[09:24:17] <S3> huh..
L212[09:24:23] <S3> Textronix osciloscope for 100 bucks
L213[09:24:56] <Forecaster> %inv add Textronix osciloscope
L214[09:24:57] * MichiBot summons 'Textronix osciloscope' and adds to her inventory. This seems rather fragile...
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L216[09:54:35] <payonel> AmandaC: new builds available
L217[09:59:06] <Michiyo> I really wish I could get the deps for 1.8+
L218[09:59:25] <payonel> Michiyo: yeah why? we're not merge to 1.8 anymore
L219[09:59:35] <Michiyo> I DID say +
L220[09:59:36] <payonel> mergin*
L221[09:59:43] <payonel> merging...
L222[09:59:57] <Michiyo> And just cause having the deps for everything would be nice
L223[10:00:04] <payonel> yeah, it would
L224[10:00:20] <Michiyo> I got all of 1.7.10 on my little maven mirror afaict
L225[10:00:40] <Michiyo> but 1.9/10/11/12 could still be an issue
L226[10:00:50] <payonel> i have 10/11/12
L227[10:01:12] <payonel> i MIGHT have 8 or 9
L228[10:01:18] <payonel> can't remember
L229[10:01:19] <payonel> i'll check
L230[10:01:33] <Michiyo> I'll take whatever you have, justi n case.
L231[10:01:40] * Michiyo slaps latency
L232[10:04:15] <Vexatos> Michiyo, would you like my 14GB gradle cache? :3
L233[10:04:37] <payonel> heh
L234[10:04:41] <payonel> mine is only 1.6G
L235[10:06:03] <Michiyo> lol
L236[10:13:23] <payonel> Michiyo: ok i can't get waila for 1.8, but 1.9 is good
L237[10:16:05] <payonel> Michiyo: so, what. you want me to tar up my ~/.gradle and send that to you? :)
L238[10:16:21] * Michiyo shrugs
L239[10:16:22] <Michiyo> sure
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L244[10:45:11] <payonel> Michiyo: ok, i did some searching to figure out how to transfer gradle cache
L245[10:45:51] <payonel> it appears not be transferable because it creates $class files with embedded absolute paths
L246[10:46:20] <payonel> anyways, i've tar'd up the jars and poms. it's 1.1G
L247[10:48:46] <Michiyo> that should work, I'll just have to sort them into their proper subdirs and go
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L253[11:47:38] <AmandaC> \o/ It lives! https://gitlab.darkdna.net/amanda/oc-fileserver/blob/master/tablet/etc/rc.d/screensaver.lua
L254[11:47:42] <Temia> Skye, I found another miqo'te in your retweets
L255[11:49:12] <Skye> Temia, linky? :o
L256[11:49:19] <Temia> https://twitter.com/catgirls_bot/status/938321479632150528 Battlemage's hat and gloves (possibly boots), coliseum shawl and loincloth, paramour's pendant
L257[11:49:55] * Michiyo pokes MichiBot
L258[11:49:57] <Temia> I didn't even need to try very hard for that one orz
L259[11:50:17] <Michiyo> Oh
L260[11:50:19] <Michiyo> "Sorry, you are not authorized to see this status."
L261[11:50:22] <AmandaC> payonel: thanks for the quick turn-around once I got the PR tested and such. That will in theory allow much longer battery life of tablets, automatically. I'll probably evolve it some to have a "caffinate" functon.
L262[11:50:31] <Temia> Oh right
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L264[11:50:38] <Temia> I always forget that Corebird copies the RT and not the original
L265[11:50:41] <Skye> https://twitter.com/catgirls_bot/status/938168161375019008
L266[11:50:41] <MichiBot> Tue Dec 05 16:08:14 CST 2017 @catgirls_bot: https://t.co/Lkao9GkkAf https://t.co/4TOikSTp3f
L267[11:50:56] <Temia> Thanks, I wasn't logged in so I couldn't get the redirect
L268[11:51:09] <AmandaC> Ah, such high-level armour I see. :P
L269[11:52:00] <vifino> S3: you mean tektronix, hopefully
L270[11:52:13] <vifino> i want one, sign me up.
L271[11:52:25] <vifino> i have no oscilloscope, i should probably have one.
L272[11:52:54] <vifino> neither do i have a decent lab bench power supply, grr
L273[11:53:19] * AmandaC dances around happily because her first PR is immediately useful and taken advantage of in 46 lines of code for what she wanted it for in the first place
L274[11:53:29] <payonel> AmandaC: thanks for writing the code :)
L275[11:53:32] <vifino> what did you do, AmandaC?
L276[11:53:58] <AmandaC> payonel: made `component.screen.turn{On,Off}()` function for tablets.
L277[11:54:19] <AmandaC> er, vifino ^
L278[11:54:32] <vifino> neat.
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L280[11:56:07] <AmandaC> vifino: and as a safety net, calls the java-equivilent of turnOn() on boot,
L281[11:56:24] <AmandaC> ( on tablet boot, not normal ocmputers )
L282[11:56:43] <vifino> ah. unfortunatly, i have to go now.
L283[11:56:51] <AmandaC> toodles. :)
L284[11:57:16] <vifino> need to grab groceries from the car, then cook gowjadina po-stoganovski
L285[11:57:21] <vifino> stroganovski*
L286[11:57:34] <vifino> or boeuf stroganoff.
L287[11:57:50] <vifino> see ya, AmandaC. congrats to your PR.
L288[12:03:19] <Noire> So, what should i do now?
L289[12:03:33] <Noire> Using an old 1.6.1 version? ?
L290[12:03:46] <Noire> Or maybe someone of the devs can add his word?
L291[12:04:09] <Skye> @Noire, temporarily downgrade while you try to debug the new version?
L292[12:04:10] <Skye> like
L293[12:04:20] <Skye> have you opened an issue yet? :p
L294[12:04:27] <Noire> Doing it now
L295[12:04:57] <Noire> Skye: ive tried debugging everthing that i can
L296[12:05:08] <Skye> well
L297[12:05:10] <Skye> more like
L298[12:05:29] <Skye> being willing to regularly test new things that people throw at you
L299[12:06:00] <Noire> Ive tested everything that was said here
L300[12:06:10] <Noire> Except switching to grs-free kernel
L301[12:06:28] <Skye> could you try that?
L302[12:06:45] <Noire> I think no
L303[12:06:57] <Skye> why not?
L304[12:06:58] <Noire> I am a bit afraid touching it
L305[12:07:04] <Skye> well
L306[12:07:16] <Skye> worst case, it doesn't boot without manually prodding stuff
L307[12:07:30] <Noire> And the intuition tells me that kernel is not a cause
L308[12:07:34] <Noire> ?
L309[12:07:37] <Skye> Michiyo, you mentioned that you switched kernels on OVH? how hard is it to recover if you mess up?
L310[12:07:57] <Skye> @Noire, well grs apparently likes to give Lua segmentation faults
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L312[12:08:35] <payonel> grs?
L313[12:08:45] <Noire> GrSecurity
L314[12:09:08] <Noire> Standard OVH kernels are equipped with it
L315[12:09:27] <Skye> payonel, used to be open source but now is "you will be banned from getting updates if you release the source"
L316[12:09:52] <Skye> though that IS against the GPL
L317[12:09:53] <Skye> lol
L318[12:10:00] <Skye> I never thought I'd actually run into a situation like this
L319[12:10:05] <Skye> but I guess I did
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L321[12:16:27] <Skye> @Noire, you can either replace your kernel or find a way to get kernel source
L322[12:16:34] <Skye> like they legally have to give it to you
L323[12:24:50] <Mimiru> Skye, well, I've not messed up.. so no idea.. the howto I linked backs up the old grub settings so if you can get anyway to access the FS you can restore them
L324[12:24:58] <Mimiru> But.. I never had to try so no idea
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L326[12:26:40] * Skye throws Thog at @Noire
L327[12:26:42] <Skye> >:D
L328[12:27:23] <Noire> ouch
L329[12:27:25] <Noire> ?
L330[12:28:10] <Noire> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2662
L331[12:28:43] <Thog> Hmmm...
L332[12:29:00] <Skye> @Noire >says you're not a weeb >has a profile picture with japanese in it :P
L333[12:29:10] <Noire> MONOGATARI IS AN ART
L334[12:29:15] <Thog> ^
L335[12:29:18] <Noire> ITS NOT A WEEB THING
L336[12:29:21] <Noire> ?
L337[12:29:23] <Mimiru> inb4 actualweeb
L338[12:29:44] <Skye> I'm joking okay
L339[12:29:51] <Thog> Sooooo maybe you can get the sources by contacting Oles?
L340[12:29:52] <Noire> I just like sadistic cold-hearted girls with purple hair
L341[12:29:52] <Skye> though Neptunia is also art
L342[12:29:58] <Thog> Nep nep
L343[12:30:02] <Skye> uh
L344[12:30:09] <Noire> Oles? What, @Thog
L345[12:30:09] <Skye> > sadistic cold-hearted girls with purple hair
L346[12:30:13] <Skye> that's definitely a weeb thing
L347[12:30:16] <Thog> The OVH CEO
L348[12:30:17] <Skye> /s
L349[12:30:18] <Noire> Lol
L350[12:30:22] <Thog> He actually respond
L351[12:30:23] <Skye> though
L352[12:30:39] <Skye> Neptunia has a purple haired girl who's lazy but probably smarter than us all.
L353[12:30:50] <Noire> What is neptunia?
L354[12:30:57] <Noire> Another fanservice?
L355[12:31:03] <Noire> ?
L356[12:31:25] <Skye> s/neptunia/neptune
L357[12:31:25] <MichiBot> <Noire> What is neptune?
L358[12:31:44] <Noire> Wut
L359[12:32:56] <Noire> Lol, im so mad that this guy`s name triggers me https://gyazo.com/4a270bdbd4489c4b0cca421a2475a445
L360[12:33:36] <Thog> He is higher half
L361[12:33:50] <Corded> * <Thog> hides for this bad kernel joke
L362[12:33:55] <Skye> ...
L363[12:33:58] <Noire> Lol
L364[12:34:48] <Noire> How to change a nickname in a channel?
L365[12:35:02] <Skye> /nick
L366[12:35:18] <Noire> dayum
L367[12:35:19] <Noire> I cant
L368[12:35:22] <Noire> :C
L369[12:35:26] <Skye> D:
L370[12:35:42] <Noire> wanna change it to SIGSEGV
L371[12:36:01] <Noire> lmao
L372[12:38:06] <SIGSEGV> test
L373[12:38:21] <SIGSEGV> *test*
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L375[12:45:11] <SIGSEGV> i wanna die :0
L376[12:45:17] <Skye> uhhh
L377[12:45:20] <SIGSEGV> *jumps to the floor*
L378[12:45:35] <Skye> you changed your usewrname
L379[12:45:36] <Skye> wow
L380[12:45:39] <SIGSEGV> yes
L381[12:45:50] <SIGSEGV> as a perfectionist
L382[12:45:54] <SIGSEGV> this drives me ntuts
L383[12:46:01] <SIGSEGV> ?
L384[12:46:14] <Skye> test with either the normal kernel
L385[12:46:22] <Skye> or give the grs kernel to someone
L386[12:48:48] <AmandaC> GRS kernel considered harmful. I've heard of at least one or two projects who refuse to deal with bugs that happen under it, because the GRS people don't care about maintaining ABI compatibity with the mainline kernel
L387[12:49:16] <payonel> @sigsegv i commented on your ticket
L388[12:50:09] <Michiyo> I'm putting money on the kernel.
L389[12:50:21] <Skye> AmandaC, I'd love it if this was a bug in OC that could be fixed
L390[12:50:31] <Skye> that is only triggered by this
L391[12:50:33] <Skye> but still
L392[12:50:53] <Skye> if developers are not able to test with the kernel
L393[12:50:56] <Skye> then uh
L394[12:51:00] <Skye> they won't fix it
L395[12:51:05] <Skye> simple as that
L396[12:51:31] <SIGSEGV> Ye, i see
L397[12:51:35] <AmandaC> %choose S2 or something else
L398[12:51:35] <MichiBot> AmandaC: S2
L399[12:51:43] * AmandaC loads up assassination classroom S2
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L402[12:52:28] <SIGSEGV> Hm
L403[12:52:51] <SIGSEGV> Googld about JVM segfault with Grs
L404[12:53:04] <Skye> this is Lua
L405[12:53:06] <SIGSEGV> Maybe it is it, for real...
L406[12:53:45] <Michiyo> This is Sparta!
L407[12:53:59] <Skye> @Thog, how would one report a bug to GRSecurity if you're an end user? Say to the CEO of OVH "GRSecurity breaks my stuff"? :P
L408[12:54:19] <SIGSEGV> Thats a great question
L409[12:54:27] <payonel> @sigsegv if you zip i can give you an upload path to send your entire world
L410[12:54:31] <payonel> mods/ included
L411[12:54:46] <SIGSEGV> kay
L412[12:55:07] <SIGSEGV> ill send u a region file with problematic chunk and a level.dat
L413[12:55:42] <payonel> btw, if you create a computer in a new world in 1.6.1
L414[12:55:49] <payonel> then save and close, update to 1.7, and load
L415[12:55:51] <payonel> does it crash?
L416[12:56:16] <SIGSEGV> hard to say, because after installing 1.7 ive wiped ALL OC DATA
L417[12:56:23] <SIGSEGV> then all computers were new
L418[12:56:35] <SIGSEGV> And crashes still occured
L419[12:57:03] <Thog> @Skye Well true but you can ask him directly to have the sources x)
L420[12:57:14] <Skye> well I can't
L421[12:57:20] <Skye> :P
L422[12:57:21] <Thog> Also changing the kernel is still an option x)
L423[12:57:25] <Skye> yeah
L424[12:57:28] <payonel> @sigsegv with a new world, with 1.7, does it crash as soon as you /oc_sc ?
L425[12:57:29] <S3> if sigsegv is here where's the core dump
L426[12:57:31] <Skye> but @SIGSEGV doesn't want to
L427[12:57:41] <Thog> :HUH:
L428[12:57:53] <SIGSEGV> S3: haha, thats a funny joke
L429[12:58:10] <SIGSEGV> Payonel: /oc_sc?
L430[12:59:39] <payonel> spawns a computer on the block youre looking at
L431[12:59:43] <payonel> w/ op
L432[13:00:29] <SIGSEGV> Need to say that crash happens on a production server, so i dunno where to reproduce it
L433[13:00:35] <SIGSEGV> In sngleplayer?
L434[13:00:42] <payonel> or run a server locally
L435[13:00:53] <payonel> and test a sp game
L436[13:01:06] <SIGSEGV> I have Win10, its ok?
L437[13:01:18] <payonel> afaik
L438[13:01:21] <payonel> :)
L439[13:01:55] <Skye> payonel, no
L440[13:01:59] <Skye> it won't really work??
L441[13:02:03] <payonel> why not?
L442[13:02:04] <Skye> unless it's not the kernel
L443[13:02:07] <Skye> because
L444[13:02:11] <Skye> I guess
L445[13:02:15] <Skye> you COULD test the world
L446[13:02:24] <Skye> to see if it crahses on hteir local PC
L447[13:02:26] <Skye> but that'; about it
L448[13:02:59] <payonel> @sigsegv have you tested a new world on your server?
L449[13:03:38] <SIGSEGV> I can try, but the thing is that not every computer crashes
L450[13:03:44] <S3> A whole new world!
L451[13:04:06] <SIGSEGV> Crash happens only while loading a specific chunk
L452[13:04:16] <SIGSEGV> With computers and etc.
L453[13:05:15] <payonel> and if you move those computers out of that chunk and start them in another chunk, does it crash?
L454[13:05:46] <SIGSEGV> Never tried that, because this once happened in anothere location
L455[13:05:55] <SIGSEGV> With another computer
L456[13:08:39] <SIGSEGV> But this "another" computer lost his "curse" after ForceLuaJ=true, and i never checked it after
L457[13:09:47] <payonel> so is the chunk or is it the computer?
L458[13:09:58] <payonel> can you /oc_sc a new computer in the "bad" chunk?
L459[13:10:09] <SIGSEGV> yes, it did well
L460[13:10:15] <SIGSEGV> but then crash happened again
L461[13:10:26] <payonel> does this repro with oc by itself? (probably) if so, you could do a binary search of our 1.7.10 builds to find where it goes bad
L462[13:10:26] <SIGSEGV> with the same programms
L463[13:10:43] <payonel> i bet it'd be roughly 6 versions to tests
L464[13:10:48] <SIGSEGV> -server,-XX:+ExitOnOutOfMemoryError,-Dthermos.fastcraft.disable=false,-Dfml.doNotBackup=true,-Djline.terminal=jline.UnsupportedTerminal,-Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true,-Dfml.ignoreInvalidMinecraftCertificates=true,-XX:+AlwaysPreTouch,-XX:+DisableExplicitGC,-XX:+UseG1GC,-XX:+UnlockExperimentalVMOptions,-XX:MaxGCPauseMillis=50,-XX:G1HeapRegionSize=4M,-XX:TargetSurvivorRatio=90,-XX:G1NewSizePercent=50,-XX:G1MaxNewSizePercent=80,-XX:Initiatin
L465[13:10:48] <SIGSEGV> pOccupancyPercent=10,-XX:G1MixedGCLiveThresholdPercent=50,-XX:+AggressiveOpts
L466[13:11:00] <SIGSEGV> I use this args, if it is needed
L467[13:11:51] <payonel> i dont understand your answer "yes it did well but then it crash happened again"
L468[13:11:58] <payonel> i asked, does a new computer in a bad chunk cause a crash
L469[13:12:03] <Skye> http://neptunia.wikia.com/wiki/Neptune http://hyperdimensionneptunia.wikia.com/wiki/Neptune
L470[13:12:12] <payonel> 2. does the bad computer in a new chunk cause a crash
L471[13:12:12] <SIGSEGV> New computer by itself - no
L472[13:12:34] <SIGSEGV> The crash happens after installing previous programs into the new PC
L473[13:13:00] <payonel> is it this specific program or does any openos at shell cause a crash?
L474[13:13:13] <payonel> if you have a program that seems related to the crash, you should include that in your github ticket
L475[13:13:27] <SIGSEGV> I can`t say, because no error in log or something like that
L476[13:13:39] <AmandaC> "previous programs" loaded how? copying the disk / floppy / eeprom, or copying to a new one?
L477[13:13:43] <SIGSEGV> That could point to a bad PC
L478[13:13:48] <payonel> what i asked doesn't require logs
L479[13:13:52] <payonel> you just test it
L480[13:13:52] <AmandaC> s/copying the/moving the/
L481[13:13:52] <MichiBot> <AmandaC> "previous programs" loaded how? moving the disk / floppy / eeprom, or copying to a new one?
L482[13:14:21] <SIGSEGV> Moving the HDD in a new PC
L483[13:14:44] <payonel> but you said more than one pc can crash the server, yes?
L484[13:14:54] <payonel> does the other bad-pc have the same program?
L485[13:15:55] <SIGSEGV> Yes, there are multiple PCs in the area. 5-6 of them are equipped with the same program. Others are not.
L486[13:16:15] <SIGSEGV> It is some kind of OC based shop with cabins
L487[13:20:43] <payonel> if you don't run this evil program, but you run openos shell prompt -- does it ever crash?
L488[13:20:49] <SIGSEGV> But pc from the far-far-away area had no programs
L489[13:20:58] <SIGSEGV> Just plain out-of-the-box state
L490[13:21:08] <SIGSEGV> And still, caused segfault
L491[13:21:25] <payonel> how do you know that pc caused the crash?
L492[13:21:29] <payonel> was it the only pc running?
L493[13:21:49] <payonel> and what is plain-out-of-the-box state? running? openos installed and at shell prompt?
L494[13:21:58] <SIGSEGV> Very simple. I just teleported to the area of last player login that was right before crash
L495[13:22:07] <SIGSEGV> openos installed and at shell prompt?
L496[13:22:07] <SIGSEGV> This
L497[13:22:22] <payonel> were any other pcs running?
L498[13:22:26] <SIGSEGV> Yes, ofc
L499[13:22:40] <SIGSEGV> At spawn i have a pc, that worked fine
L500[13:22:46] <SIGSEGV> And did not cause crash
L501[13:23:20] <payonel> you think that because that chunk was already loaded
L502[13:23:31] <payonel> but it isn't ruled out if it was running
L503[13:23:40] <SIGSEGV> Maybe, not only spawn PC was running fine
L504[13:23:48] <SIGSEGV> Other players PCs were fine too
L505[13:23:57] <payonel> it could be on save()
L506[13:24:09] <payonel> it could be that another chunk unloaded
L507[13:24:09] <SIGSEGV> Or command execution
L508[13:24:15] <SIGSEGV> Ive told many times
L509[13:24:22] <payonel> it could be command execution, sure
L510[13:24:36] <SIGSEGV> That crash appears while saving a world, or command exec
L511[13:24:37] <payonel> what i'm saying is that you have other pcs running - so we don't know for sure
L512[13:24:43] <SIGSEGV> WHILE crashchunk is loaded
L513[13:24:55] <payonel> and you know that how?
L514[13:25:11] <payonel> while loaded? not while load_ing_, not while saving?
L515[13:25:16] <SIGSEGV> Im just did not load the crash chunk
L516[13:25:17] <payonel> essentially unloading
L517[13:25:30] <SIGSEGV> And used pc from the other player area
L518[13:25:48] <SIGSEGV> Lets make it clear, gimme a sec
L519[13:26:06] <payonel> and what command exec do you think it is and why?
L520[13:26:54] <SIGSEGV> My actions:
L521[13:26:55] <SIGSEGV> Im going to crashzone
L522[13:26:55] <SIGSEGV> The server is alive until ANY command is executed, or autosave initiated
L523[13:27:13] <payonel> "any command" such as?
L524[13:27:35] <SIGSEGV> ./gc, ./help, /top
L525[13:27:38] <SIGSEGV> Any of that kind
L526[13:27:41] <SIGSEGV> ANY command
L527[13:27:43] <SIGSEGV> literally
L528[13:28:08] <payonel> "command" is quite vague, i understand now
L529[13:29:24] <SIGSEGV> Side note: On 1.6.1.11 after a server start programms start and work fine. Computer is enabled. On 1.7 Computer is enabled after server start, but program does not work.
L530[13:29:39] <payonel> explain
L531[13:29:44] <payonel> "does not work"
L532[13:30:26] <payonel> machines appear frozen?, on but not responding to key press?
L533[13:30:35] <Inari> payonel: But things usually do spill theri guts everywhere when they *pop*
L534[13:30:45] <SIGSEGV> Literally, does not work. Program meant to check my name through radar and get it on screen. On 1.6.1 it works well. On 1.7 it works only after computer reboot
L535[13:30:46] <payonel> Inari: you mean in other mods?
L536[13:31:14] <payonel> Inari: i'm thinking we might be able to "save" the machine to a nbt-only state and then pop an entity
L537[13:31:21] <payonel> then when we place it again, load it back up
L538[13:31:25] <SIGSEGV> Payonel: i can say frozen, yes
L539[13:31:39] <payonel> sigsegv: at shell or with evil program?
L540[13:32:26] <SIGSEGV> with any program
L541[13:32:30] <SIGSEGV> or shell
L542[13:32:35] <SIGSEGV> shell just dont respond
L543[13:32:56] <payonel> can you test running openos from a floppy
L544[13:33:09] <SIGSEGV> and then?
L545[13:33:12] <payonel> and then get it frozen like you say, and then insert a hard disk into it
L546[13:33:25] <payonel> see if the floppy drive spins up
L547[13:33:40] <payonel> this will tell you if the pc is running, but the screen/gpu are disassociated
L548[13:33:52] <SIGSEGV> Ehm
L549[13:34:04] <SIGSEGV> while program is frozen, i can hear PC is bzzzzzing
L550[13:34:10] <SIGSEGV> Like its working
L551[13:34:13] <SIGSEGV> it*s
L552[13:35:22] <payonel> sigsegv so you say it crashes when you execute a chat command
L553[13:35:28] <payonel> or when autosave runs
L554[13:35:30] <SIGSEGV> yes
L555[13:35:38] <payonel> when the evil program is running
L556[13:35:46] <payonel> loaded and running
L557[13:35:47] <payonel> yes?
L558[13:35:57] <SIGSEGV> Im 90% sure that this is not a program fault
L559[13:36:27] <payonel> fair enough
L560[13:36:45] <payonel> part of this doesn't make sense though
L561[13:36:51] <SIGSEGV> Which one?
L562[13:37:07] <payonel> that you have good pcs and you have bad pcs
L563[13:37:15] <SIGSEGV> I see the obvious problem - computer does not resume properly after restart
L564[13:37:19] <SIGSEGV> ONLY at 1.7
L565[13:37:20] <payonel> can you load new chunks with pcs that behave nicely?
L566[13:37:27] <SIGSEGV> On 1.6.1.11 they resume properly
L567[13:37:34] <payonel> ok
L568[13:37:35] <payonel> first of all
L569[13:37:44] <payonel> this is not a 1.7 only problem
L570[13:37:50] <payonel> no.one.else is getting this but you
L571[13:38:37] <SIGSEGV> I understand
L572[13:38:37] <SIGSEGV> But i tried various build
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L574[13:38:37] <SIGSEGV> builds, just telling you my notes
L575[13:38:37] <SIGSEGV> Not blaming anyone (I also sorry for being very annoying)
L576[13:38:43] <payonel> also, we see component disassociation with 1.7 loading persisted pcs, sure
L577[13:38:46] <S3> dude you're not annoying as that guy on the github
L578[13:38:56] <payonel> but that doesn't tell us if that is the same reason for the crash
L579[13:39:00] <AmandaC> S3: Soni?
L580[13:39:03] <S3> es..
L581[13:39:05] <S3> yes*
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L583[13:39:22] <payonel> sigsegv: so again -- are there good pcs in unloaded chunks?
L584[13:40:10] <xarses> SIGSEGV, are your CPU's set into a weird mode (5.2 interperter) or have you previously upgraded the mod from an even older version (1.5) of OC?
L585[13:40:16] <SIGSEGV> Good PCs are good even while loaded
L586[13:40:35] <AmandaC> but what about the transition from unloaded -> loaded
L587[13:40:39] <payonel> sigsegv but do you have good pcs that are ever in unloaded chunks?
L588[13:40:42] <AmandaC> I think that's what payonel means
L589[13:40:44] <payonel> yep
L590[13:40:48] <xarses> and are you using the default lua engine
L591[13:40:49] <SIGSEGV> Ah
L592[13:41:03] <SIGSEGV> Good pc do not crash server even going from unloaded to loaded
L593[13:41:04] <payonel> xarses: yeah he is
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L595[13:41:23] <payonel> sigsegv and you said you can make a good pc be a bad pc by copying this program on it?
L596[13:42:48] <SIGSEGV> Perhaps, because the nature of this crash is inconstant, and it might be revealed the day after
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L598[13:43:26] <SIGSEGV> Thats very strange
L599[13:43:47] <SIGSEGV> I tested again, persistence isnt working
L600[13:44:01] <SIGSEGV> My spawn Good PC freezed after restart
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L602[13:44:23] <SIGSEGV> Made it work by restart
L603[13:44:42] <payonel> and have you tested this world on another kernel?
L604[13:44:43] <S3> O MG
L605[13:44:49] <SIGSEGV> No(
L606[13:44:50] <S3> 10 days ago soni asked about dual cpus
L607[13:44:53] <payonel> people are telling me that this is debian grs specific
L608[13:44:54] <S3> in multiple issues
L609[13:44:59] <payonel> S3: :)
L610[13:45:05] <S3> dafuq
L611[13:45:05] <SIGSEGV> Yes, i partly agree with them
L612[13:45:08] <payonel> how has that been established
L613[13:45:18] <payonel> because grs is known to cause lua hell?
L614[13:45:19] <SIGSEGV> But i am not experienced in UNIX-system management
L615[13:45:21] <payonel> i've read that
L616[13:45:38] <SIGSEGV> And i am afraid of bricking everything
L617[13:45:45] <SIGSEGV> (cuz its my production server)
L618[13:45:48] <payonel> sigsegv fair warning, i might close this ticket as "won't fix" reason: "grs not supported"
L619[13:46:08] <payonel> just warning that - but i'm very willing to investigate further
L620[13:46:16] <payonel> ok, so have you tested this world on a different kernel?
L621[13:46:24] <SIGSEGV> My last wish is find out, which new implementation broke it
L622[13:46:29] <AmandaC> payonel: no, they're afraid of bricking it.
L623[13:46:37] <AmandaC> ( the dedi )
L624[13:46:44] <payonel> oh no, i dont want you to install new kernel on the same hardware
L625[13:46:52] <payonel> i mean host it elsewhere and just test the same world files
L626[13:47:14] <payonel> yes it is probably grs, but, it's a good thing to ttest
L627[13:47:17] <SIGSEGV> I have no any other host based on UNIX...
L628[13:47:25] <SIGSEGV> only a windows option
L629[13:47:26] <AmandaC> a local VM would probably be fine to test
L630[13:47:29] <payonel> well golly, i have a few
L631[13:47:32] <payonel> and a local vm would be fine too
L632[13:47:37] <SIGSEGV> Local VM?
L633[13:47:43] <SIGSEGV> virtual machine?
L634[13:47:45] <AmandaC> running VirtualBox or similar locally
L635[13:47:46] <AmandaC> yes
L636[13:48:03] <payonel> sigsegv, can you zip the entire server folder and upload it to me privately?
L637[13:48:33] <SIGSEGV> It is a very large thing
L638[13:48:35] <AmandaC> %choose reboot to make the gods happy or don't bother, they can deal with it
L639[13:48:35] <MichiBot> AmandaC: don't bother, they can deal with it
L640[13:48:51] <AmandaC> ( Ran an update today, 300+ packages updated. <.< )
L641[13:48:55] <SIGSEGV> What the hell...
L642[13:49:05] <SIGSEGV> No crash now
L643[13:49:08] <SIGSEGV> With 1.7
L644[13:49:12] <AmandaC> I should get around to uninstalling all the -debuginfo packages
L645[13:49:12] <payonel> you're welcome
L646[13:49:26] <SIGSEGV> But im afraid it will crash again
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L649[13:49:36] <SIGSEGV> In a matter of hour
L650[13:50:12] <SIGSEGV> God damn the grs!
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L652[13:50:37] <S3> payonel: never ban this soni guy
L653[13:50:44] <payonel> well i can't
L654[13:50:45] <payonel> :)
L655[13:50:49] <S3> I want to make a collection
L656[13:51:07] <SIGSEGV> Whats up with him?
L657[13:51:30] <payonel> @sigsegv i sent you a pm in discord, link and password where you can upload your server folder
L658[13:51:34] <payonel> no size limit
L659[13:51:43] <payonel> well, okay, 7TB limit
L660[13:51:58] <SIGSEGV> kay
L661[13:52:07] <payonel> S3: i am not the github "owner", so i can't block him :)
L662[13:52:07] <SIGSEGV> is it possible to upload thru linux shell?
L663[13:52:32] <S3> curl?
L664[13:52:50] <payonel> my upload folder supports webdav
L665[13:52:59] <payonel> i'm looking for an easy way
L666[13:53:00] <SIGSEGV> ehhhhm
L667[13:53:04] <SIGSEGV> okay
L668[13:53:15] <SIGSEGV> That would be hard 4 me to upload from browser
L669[13:53:23] <Izaya> tar -xvzf server.tgz server/ | curl wherever
L670[13:53:25] <payonel> i understand
L671[13:53:47] <payonel> Izaya: that tar has no stdout that would be meaningful there
L672[13:53:56] <payonel> maybe you meant to omit -f ?
L673[13:54:01] <Izaya> oh
L674[13:54:03] <AmandaC> and server.tgz
L675[13:54:07] <payonel> mhm
L676[13:54:07] <Izaya> yeah fair point
L677[13:54:11] <Izaya> don't mind me x_x
L678[13:54:25] * AmandaC beams a cup of coffee infront of Izaya
L679[13:54:41] <Izaya> appreciated
L680[13:54:49] <payonel> `curl -T '/path/to/local/file.txt' 'http://example.com/test/'`
L681[13:54:50] <payonel> neat
L682[13:54:56] <payonel> looks like you can curl it up
L683[13:54:57] <Inari> payonel: No i mnean, specifically, the noise of poppiung would imply disintegration, which tends to mean guts spilling
L684[13:55:06] <payonel> Inari: hahaha
L685[13:55:23] * AmandaC is confused what Inari / payonel are talking about
L686[13:55:32] <SIGSEGV> dont u mind if i upload it after some server observation?
L687[13:56:02] <payonel> you can upload whenever you want
L688[13:56:05] <payonel> i'm testing curl
L689[13:56:05] <SIGSEGV> maybe down-upgrading cycle did something...
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L691[13:56:07] <SIGSEGV> Okay!
L692[13:56:38] <S3> I should make a bot that sits here called soni_entertainment that spits out links to issues the moment soni adds them
L693[13:56:49] <AmandaC> S3: pls no
L694[13:56:53] <S3> lol
L695[13:57:01] <AmandaC> It's only entertaining in small quantities
L696[13:57:05] <Izaya> huh, my ARK character is still alive and still has all his stuff on him
L697[13:57:07] <Izaya> nice
L698[13:57:20] <AmandaC> Izaya: PvE server?
L699[13:57:22] <S3> 3 moments later: ark character gets eaten
L700[13:57:23] <Izaya> sword, shield, fancy bow, metal armour
L701[13:57:27] <Izaya> yeah, PvE
L702[13:57:30] <Izaya> haven't played in months
L703[13:57:37] <S3> PvP man
L704[13:57:40] <S3> gotta PvP
L705[13:57:49] <AmandaC> I'd rather not
L706[13:57:51] <SIGSEGV> lold hard on soni_entertainment
L707[13:57:57] <SIGSEGV> very hard
L708[13:58:01] <Izaya> PvP is fun but I don't have the time to invest in it
L709[13:58:04] <SIGSEGV> my head muscles stuck
L710[13:58:32] <Izaya> in other news, NVIDIA actually knows wtf they're talking about because their recommended settings actually get me a solid 60
L711[13:58:59] <Izaya> despite 5 year old graphics card and midrange 3yo CPU
L712[14:00:13] <Inari> Why purplemonday
L713[14:00:31] <Inari> Oh
L714[14:00:35] <Inari> it's the name of the commenter :P
L715[14:00:54] * Inari was confused why the github notification awas sent from such a name
L716[14:01:58] <Inari> http://store.steampowered.com/app/298610/Ylands/ sounds interesting
L717[14:03:07] <payonel> @sigsegv what about state restore? are you still seeing "frozen" machines?
L718[14:04:34] <SIGSEGV> seems like they work after rebooting the PC and restarting server
L719[14:05:03] <SIGSEGV> Is there any way to reset all PC persistence?
L720[14:05:21] <Izaya> delete the folder in world/ I imagine
L721[14:05:24] <Izaya> uh
L722[14:05:29] <Izaya> world/opencomputers/
L723[14:05:51] <Inari> Doesn't that contain the lua code too though
L724[14:06:45] <payonel> do not delete that folder
L725[14:06:47] <payonel> please
L726[14:06:57] <payonel> that's all the filesystems
L727[14:07:06] <SIGSEGV> ye, i know
L728[14:07:08] <Izaya> there's a folder in there tho
L729[14:07:12] <Izaya> called persistence or something
L730[14:07:16] <SIGSEGV> I dont need to delete HDD data
L731[14:07:24] <Izaya> I forget what exactly
L732[14:07:27] <payonel> yeah, i think it's called state
L733[14:07:29] <SIGSEGV> state?
L734[14:07:31] <SIGSEGV> ok
L735[14:07:47] <payonel> but...i wouldn't
L736[14:07:48] * Izaya needs more coffee
L737[14:07:52] <payonel> just let people restart their stuff?
L738[14:31:59] <Izaya> 07:31:53 up 361 days, 15:52, 0 users, load average: 0.14, 0.08, 0.03
L739[14:32:01] <Izaya> nearly there!
L740[14:32:57] <SIGSEGV> grats!
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L746[15:05:20] <SIGSEGV> Guys
L747[15:05:31] <payonel> sup
L748[15:05:45] <SIGSEGV> what if i make a 32GB swap?
L749[15:05:49] <SIGSEGV> For example
L750[15:05:54] <SIGSEGV> I have 32G of ram
L751[15:06:05] <SIGSEGV> Can i theoretically make a 32GB swap
L752[15:06:11] <payonel> you dont need more than a 2G swap
L753[15:06:13] <SIGSEGV> For minecraft servers?
L754[15:06:21] <payonel> or are you talking about a ramfs?
L755[15:06:35] <SIGSEGV> kinda like that
L756[15:06:35] <payonel> i would leave operational memory for the system
L757[15:06:58] <SIGSEGV> i have 32gb swap page for now
L758[15:07:14] <SIGSEGV> https://i.gyazo.com/c00807c160e59429d5b04a8ecb16bc41.png
L759[15:07:21] <SIGSEGV> so the question is
L760[15:07:28] <SIGSEGV> would minecraft server work with that?
L761[15:07:39] <payonel> ok that is ridiculous
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L763[15:07:53] <SIGSEGV> ?
L764[15:07:54] <payonel> oh my very high end servers i don't make larger than 4GB swaps
L765[15:08:00] <payonel> you honestly do not need it
L766[15:08:09] <SIGSEGV> hm
L767[15:08:31] <SIGSEGV> that because i have 4 non-bungee servers
L768[15:08:44] <SIGSEGV> and 20+ bungee servers network
L769[15:08:45] <payonel> i'm talking about servers with 128GB of ram
L770[15:08:52] <SIGSEGV> on the same host
L771[15:09:09] <SIGSEGV> So 4 non-bungee have 5 gb for each
L772[15:09:11] <payonel> anyways, swap is something your linux kernel needs
L773[15:09:17] <SIGSEGV> o
L774[15:09:17] <payonel> it's not something you need to worry about
L775[15:09:18] <SIGSEGV> Ok
L776[15:09:31] <SIGSEGV> i just want to cheat in some way ?
L777[15:09:38] <payonel> cheat to do what?
L778[15:09:42] <payonel> get better io perf?
L779[15:09:59] <SIGSEGV> To run more servers as possible with 32 gb of RAM
L780[15:10:24] <payonel> that's not going to be io bound
L781[15:10:30] <payonel> it'll be cpu bound, assuming you are running modded mc
L782[15:10:53] <SIGSEGV> Non-bungee servers are forge-based
L783[15:10:57] <payonel> with 4 cpus, you can probably handle 3 instances
L784[15:11:02] <payonel> maybe
L785[15:11:02] <SIGSEGV> Bungee network is 100% spigot-based
L786[15:11:09] <SIGSEGV> I have 8 cores
L787[15:11:16] <SIGSEGV> 12 virtual, afaik
L788[15:11:43] <payonel> i would use 3/4 of my cores for instances
L789[15:11:48] <payonel> but it also depends on the mods and the load
L790[15:12:19] <SIGSEGV> I`m not afraid about cores, all i am aware is dedication of memory
L791[15:13:34] <payonel> well it really depends on the mods and the load of each instance
L792[15:13:57] <payonel> just start running worlds and see what resource is the bottleneck
L793[15:13:58] <SIGSEGV> Forge-standalone instances are hungry for RAM
L794[15:14:10] <SIGSEGV> They eat 5gb for each
L795[15:14:12] <payonel> sure, 2-4GB generally
L796[15:14:14] <payonel> it's not that bad
L797[15:14:16] <SIGSEGV> Ye
L798[15:14:17] <SIGSEGV> But
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L800[15:14:34] <SIGSEGV> Single Spigot-Bungee instance eats 128-256 MB of RAM
L801[15:14:42] <SIGSEGV> Minigames
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L804[15:16:44] <SIGSEGV> I`m using an SSD, so i thought it could play as RAM extension of some sort
L805[15:16:53] <SIGSEGV> :neko:
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L807[15:17:28] <payonel> "play as RAM extension" what do you mean?
L808[15:17:33] <payonel> you want to run the world files on a ram disk?
L809[15:18:57] <SIGSEGV> dunno, lol
L810[15:19:27] <SIGSEGV> ?
L811[15:19:50] <SIGSEGV> anyway, good night everyone!
L812[15:19:58] <AshIndigo> night sigs
L813[15:30:58] <SIGSEGV> oh
L814[15:31:08] <SIGSEGV> payonel:
L815[15:31:11] <SIGSEGV> look
L816[15:31:30] <payonel> >_>
L817[15:31:47] <SIGSEGV> https://pastebin.com/XivVxYFk
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L820[16:19:06] <Forecaster> https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/12/06/portal-returns-as-a-bridge-constructor-spin-off/
L821[16:19:07] <Forecaster> wait what
L822[16:19:25] <Izaya> hard light bridges, probably
L823[16:19:54] <Forecaster> from the screenshot, yes and no
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L858[23:33:06] <Acrumen> I feel stupid, can't get term.clear() to work
L859[23:34:40] <ben_mkiv> you did: term = require("term")
L860[23:34:43] <ben_mkiv> before?
L861[23:34:57] <Acrumen> is that something I'm supposed to do?
L862[23:35:04] <ben_mkiv> i think so
L863[23:35:12] <ben_mkiv> or require("term").clear()
L864[23:35:27] <ben_mkiv> its an optional lib if im not wrong
L865[23:35:36] <ben_mkiv> so you have to load it like one of the above ways
L866[23:35:45] <Acrumen> let me see if that worked
L867[23:36:00] <Acrumen> what a magnificent error that just spit out, one sec
L868[23:36:58] <Acrumen> well as it turns out your advice did help, but I also modified something else in the code that made it not work
L869[23:37:00] <Acrumen> now it's fixed
L870[23:39:29] <Acrumen> is it just me or is the documentation for this mod very incomplete?
L871[23:39:45] <ben_mkiv> where did you look for docs?
L872[23:39:50] <ben_mkiv> the manual?
L873[23:39:59] <ben_mkiv> %wiki
L874[23:40:00] <MichiBot> ben_mkiv: https://www.wikipedia.org/ - *Wikipedia*: "Wikipedia is a free online encyclopedia, created and edited by volunteers around the world and hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation."
L875[23:40:06] <ben_mkiv> well that was the wrong command
L876[23:40:25] <ben_mkiv> http://ocdoc.cil.li/
L877[23:40:31] <Acrumen> the manual and the wiki, yeah
L878[23:40:42] <Acrumen> that or it's just hard to navigate
L879[23:41:32] <Acrumen> trying to see what kind of stuff there is for mouse input
L880[23:41:58] <ben_mkiv> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api
L881[23:42:08] <ben_mkiv> for mouse input theres a touch event that you can listen for
L882[23:42:30] <Acrumen> neat
L883[23:42:47] <Acrumen> so would I be doing require("event")?
L884[23:44:00] <ben_mkiv> yes to load the lib, but you would have to setup some listener
L885[23:44:01] <ben_mkiv> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:event
L886[23:44:08] <ben_mkiv> there are some examples using the touch event
L887[23:47:26] <ben_mkiv> but i get how its confusing for beginners, but thats probably because its a big mod with millions of possibilities
L888[23:47:40] <Acrumen> hell yeah
L889[23:48:41] <Acrumen> one of the things I want to do is try to map a bunch of land with camera drones
L890[23:49:00] <Acrumen> I'm probably in way the fuck over my head here, but in the meantime I'm just trying to figure out the basics
L891[23:49:42] <ben_mkiv> well the goal isnt bad at all, just make small steps and figure out one thing after another
L892[23:49:52] <ben_mkiv> and you should be able to archieve it
L893[23:57:33] <Forecaster> %shell
L894[23:57:33] * MichiBot loads an adventurer into a shell and fires it. It strikes Skye. They take 15 damage. gamax92 and Yarillo take 2 and 9 splash damage respectively.
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