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L18[05:08:10] <Inari> Boo!
L19[05:10:09] <Inari> How do I get the Item of a component? :|
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L24[05:52:28] <Forecaster> ask the component nicely?
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L27[06:04:20] <Inari> @Forecaster :P
L28[06:12:31] <Inari> Ugh
L29[06:12:50] <Inari> change glTranslate by 22
L30[06:13:17] <Inari> Output moves by 44 pixels :P
L31[06:19:44] <Inari> ¬_¬
L32[06:19:51] <Inari> These rows aren't even the same pixel height
L33[06:20:01] <Inari> How do you expect me to position text on them MC
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L35[06:21:38] <Forecaster> ugh
L36[06:21:44] <Forecaster> Visual Studio why
L37[06:22:04] <Forecaster> Why in all that is holy is the "find in files" search scanning images....
L38[06:22:40] <Forecaster> sigh
L39[06:23:39] <Inari> I don't even get why this image is 600x600
L40[06:23:56] <Inari> When it claims to be 300x300 ;-;
L41[06:24:28] <Forecaster> it's very optimistic about it's measurements
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L43[06:45:38] <S3> Inari: unipixel!
L44[06:45:39] <S3> lol
L45[06:45:49] <S3> UPF-16
L46[07:07:56] <ben_mkiv> so for my own oc computer entity...
L47[07:08:02] <ben_mkiv> i have to provide some inventory for the components
L48[07:08:11] <ben_mkiv> register them on the internal network
L49[07:08:18] <ben_mkiv> and then that thing should boot up?
L50[07:23:43] <S3> ben_mkiv: I'm doing crazy Lua evil
L51[07:24:39] <ben_mkiv> so do i with java
L52[07:25:30] <ben_mkiv> trying to get that oc minecart integration to work on 1.12...
L53[07:25:40] <ben_mkiv> inari, how is rewritting oc in java going? :P
L54[07:25:51] <Inari> Not doing that
L55[07:25:52] <Inari> :P
L56[07:25:52] <S3> well check this out
L57[07:26:02] <ben_mkiv> but anyone should
L58[07:26:11] <Inari> I don't know enough of OC's structure to do a rerwite xD
L59[07:26:22] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tLYE35ZQ/
L60[07:26:23] <ben_mkiv> at least, the interfaces are good documented
L61[07:26:47] <Inari> Sure but e.g. I don't like the current structure of how Cards work, but maybe theres a certain reason they work that way
L62[07:27:15] <ben_mkiv> tell me all you know about them
L63[07:27:16] <ben_mkiv> xD
L64[07:27:53] <ben_mkiv> i'm trying to make a mech entity a computer -.-
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L66[07:33:45] <Inari> ben_mkiv: Mostly just that they are strewn all over :P But not that much
L67[07:34:25] <ben_mkiv> their code base?
L68[07:35:20] <Inari> like you have to make the item in li.cil.oc.common.item of course, then register it in li.cil.oc.common.init.Items.
L69[07:36:45] <Inari> Then you need to make a driver in li.cil.oc.integration.<mod> (i.e. opencomputers), which is what will actually tell the PC what component class to use and instantiates that
L70[07:37:09] <ben_mkiv> isnt the driver just for the lua interface?
L71[07:37:15] <Inari> No, thats the component
L72[07:37:38] <Inari> The driver says what kinda component it is (upgrade, card, or such) and what it'll work with and what the component class is and creates the component class
L73[07:37:47] <Inari> Then you need the component in li.cil.oc.server.component of course
L74[07:38:00] <ben_mkiv> xD
L75[07:38:11] <Inari> Wihch has to register itself to be compute raccessible by overriding node and calling .withComponent on the new node
L76[07:39:08] <Inari> an in li.cil.oc.integration.opencomputers.ModopenComputers you have to add the driver and it's "provider" with two api.Driver.add calls
L77[07:41:10] <ben_mkiv> yea, you got it already working with your card?
L78[07:41:13] <ben_mkiv> https://github.com/feldim2425/OC-Minecarts
L79[07:41:14] <Inari> Yeah
L80[07:41:21] <ben_mkiv> thats some kinda good reference
L81[07:41:28] <Inari> I'm sur etheres some reason this has to be all like that :P But I think it's too spread out
L82[07:41:37] <ben_mkiv> implents a own custom component
L83[07:41:40] <Inari> It migth be a bit more compact for an OC addon too
L84[07:41:49] <ben_mkiv> from what i know, cards are just like other components
L85[07:41:56] <ben_mkiv> just with different target slots
L86[07:42:08] <Inari> Pretty much
L87[07:42:32] <Inari> I need to figure out how I get the itemstack of the card in the component class
L88[07:43:39] <ben_mkiv> did you try/check the different getComponents() methods?
L89[07:47:17] <ben_mkiv> nvm, the method from machine only returns strings -.-
L90[07:47:33] <ben_mkiv> which probably are name and address
L91[08:00:50] <ben_mkiv> so the internal component network is whats provided as nodes...!?
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L106[09:49:03] <gamax92> Inari: components know their slot numbers
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L108[09:52:24] <Inari> gamax92: Hmm where do I find those?
L109[09:52:28] <Inari> And how to I access the slots
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L111[09:53:27] <gamax92> ~w api:component
L112[09:53:27] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:component
L113[09:54:17] <gamax92> Hmm right it was only part of the proxy
L114[10:00:38] <Inari> gamax92: Well I mean on the java side of things anyway
L115[10:00:47] <gamax92> I know
L116[10:01:39] <gamax92> If Java exposes this information to Lua then you can just trace it back to the Java side
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L124[10:35:00] <S3> I need to come up with a way to handle components
L125[10:35:14] <S3> hm
L126[10:35:28] <Inari> S3: a girl's two "components"?
L127[10:36:02] <S3> ...
L128[10:36:06] <S3> Inari: wtf?
L129[10:36:44] <S3> so in an OS completely made up of actors
L130[10:36:53] <S3> subprocesses
L131[10:37:23] <S3> I need to come up with a reasonable way to handle components
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L133[10:49:59] <gamax92> S3: Distant cousins
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L135[10:50:57] <gamax92> They play the role of sending you letters about what's going on in the component
L136[10:51:47] <Inari> %give AshIndigo random
L137[10:51:50] <Inari> %give AshIndigo random
L138[10:51:50] * MichiBot gives AshIndigo a hexchat addon from her inventory
L139[10:51:57] * AshIndigo installs the addon
L140[10:53:00] <Inari> %give MichiBot sensitive information from AshIndigo's computer
L141[10:53:00] * MichiBot accepts sensitive information from AshIndigo's computer and adds it to her inventory
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L143[10:54:40] * AshIndigo changes his gmail password
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L145[10:55:52] <gamax92> No
L146[10:56:09] <AshIndigo> %yes
L147[10:56:09] <MichiBot> no
L148[10:56:38] <gamax92> %no
L149[10:56:38] <MichiBot> yes
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L151[10:57:03] <AshIndigo> %maybe
L152[10:57:05] <AmandaC> I'm not sure on why this surprises me, but apparently you can have an active (console) tty on a tty also being controlled by X11
L153[10:57:34] <AmandaC> result: blinking _ character being overlayed repeatedly on your X11 session
L154[10:57:40] <gamax92> You can also purge X11 permanently
L155[10:59:24] <AmandaC> This is on my PocketCHIP, I doubt I'll be getting rid of X11 anytime soon on it, if ever
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L157[10:59:38] <AmandaC> well, I ccould go bare linux console, but that's not what I want.
L158[11:02:29] <Temia> I'm guessing the stuff you run on it doesn't have direct framebuffer access then? o.o
L159[11:05:43] <AmandaC> what do you mean, Temia?
L160[11:07:02] <Temia> As in rendering stuff to the screen directly without an X11 session as a middleman
L161[11:07:53] <Temia> I know some libraries had that functionality, like SDL 1.2, plus I've seen some hacks made to create an OpenGL viewport on bare framebuffers as well :o
L162[11:08:52] <AmandaC> ah
L163[11:09:09] <AmandaC> I probably could for some stuff, but I'd rather have the middleman for ease of use
L164[11:09:16] <AmandaC> currently have matchbox setup on it
L165[11:12:30] <Forecaster> great
L166[11:12:37] <Forecaster> I think my certs have expired or something
L167[11:12:42] <Forecaster> https no longer works
L168[11:14:02] * AshIndigo puts a sticker on with the year 2030 over the current expiration year
L169[11:14:26] <Forecaster> I don't even remember how I did that junk :|
L170[11:29:02] <Kodos> http://tinyurl.com/yaxc5qrn
L171[11:29:11] <Kodos> Anyone know what this might go to? It's in my PC tower
L172[11:29:26] <Kodos> IIRC, it wasn't loose like that before I moved my PC
L173[11:29:44] <AmandaC> That's an antenna hookup
L174[11:29:47] <AshIndigo> kinda looks like an antenna connector, but that wouldnt really make sense in a tower
L175[11:29:48] <AmandaC> (probably)
L176[11:30:01] <Vexatos> looks like antenna coax :I
L177[11:30:03] <Kodos> What about if the tower had integrated wifi
L178[11:30:26] * AmandaC glares at her pocketCHIP
L179[11:30:51] <AshIndigo> whats the cord connected to?
L180[11:31:07] <AshIndigo> or is that it?
L181[11:31:13] <AmandaC> why you no switch to the right tty after starting lightdm
L182[11:31:41] <Kodos> No, it's likely connected to something. It's part of a bundle of ziptied wires (Stock, I didn't do it)
L183[11:32:04] <Kodos> The wifi seems to still work, so it probably just needs hung somewhere
L184[11:32:27] <Kodos> Oh, I see now
L185[11:32:33] <Kodos> Yes, this is the end that goes on the motherboard =\
L186[11:32:43] <AshIndigo> makes sense
L187[11:33:39] <Kodos> Now I just gotta google the motherboard and find the spot it goes to
L188[11:36:01] <AmandaC> IT'll probably be near where the ethernet port is, if the motherboard I have in my gaming compy is any indication
L189[11:36:27] <Kodos> http://tinyurl.com/ya8qj9jc
L190[11:36:35] <Kodos> I'm thinking that little gold spot at the bottom
L191[11:36:46] <AmandaC> ah ,yeah
L192[11:36:54] <AmandaC> also, you should take this chance to blow out all the dust.
L193[11:36:56] <Kodos> I'll fix it later
L194[11:36:58] <Kodos> And yeah, I know
L195[11:36:59] * AshIndigo hands over an air can
L196[11:37:04] <Kodos> Compressed air is expensive here
L197[11:37:05] <AmandaC> Make sure you hold any fans in place though, so as to avoid shorting anything
L198[11:38:55] <gamax92> compressed air is pretty cheap here
L199[11:39:08] <Forecaster> you don't want the fans to get excited, that can end badly
L200[11:40:40] <Kodos> Indeed
L201[11:41:09] <AmandaC> nope, when they get too excited they like to punch nearby electronics
L202[11:48:16] <Michiyo> @Forecaster, I feel your pain on the cert expiring... I know exactly how I did mine, but certbot is broken on Hekate, so I can't renew them, and they expire one by one...
L203[11:48:46] <Forecaster> I vaguely recall trying to set auto-renewal up but giving up shortly after
L204[11:50:15] <Inari> Oh right
L205[11:50:22] <Inari> Don't database upgrades store stuff with themselves?
L206[11:50:26] <Inari> I can look at how those do it
L207[11:51:41] <Inari> Ah, they just literally act as an inventory
L208[11:51:46] <Inari> Guess that makes sense for their function
L209[11:59:46] <Inari> Oh, I'm stupid
L210[12:01:53] <S3> gamax92: we're all distant cousins
L211[12:01:53] <S3> :P
L212[12:12:09] <Inari> Okay, now to come up with an icon
L213[12:12:36] <Inari> Also what would a good naming be
L214[12:12:52] <Inari> I can't help but feel "Analyzer Card" would make people think its used to analyze stuff :P
L215[12:15:56] <AshIndigo> what does it actually do?
L216[12:17:13] <Inari> adds a string to the analyzer output when you use the analyzer on the PC/something
L217[12:17:21] <Inari> (when its in that PC :P)
L218[12:18:28] <AshIndigo> was going to say debug card but thats already taken
L219[12:19:21] <AshIndigo> what about "Info Card" (or Information Card)?
L220[12:19:53] <Inari> Hmm that sounds like it outputs a lot of info xD But maybe
L221[12:27:59] <S3> Interesting
L222[12:28:06] <S3> We're talking about the 9 gates of hell in class.
L223[12:28:25] <S3> and the fact that as you go deeper and depper into hell, you find more and more popes the deeper you go down
L224[12:28:57] <S3> (Subject atm is Dante's theory)
L225[12:31:51] <Inari> "// This has to be an explicit internal class instead of an anonymous one
L226[12:31:51] <Inari> // because the scala compiler breaks otherwise. Yay for compiler bugs."
L227[12:31:52] <Inari> hehg
L228[12:32:16] <KoxFox> 9 Gates of hell? sounds... like a fun topic.
L229[12:32:32] <S3> Inari: this is why I dislike scala and it makes my sargument stronger
L230[12:32:35] <S3> argument*
L231[12:32:37] <Inari> :p
L232[12:32:42] <Inari> What argument
L233[12:33:17] <S3> well actually this particular situation may not be related, but semi related is my argument to why Scala sucks, and that is it's written mostly in Java, insteasd of Scala itself.
L234[12:33:19] <S3> instead*
L235[12:33:52] <S3> so any weird transition bugs between Java classes, java based scala classes, etc bugs affect Scala in odd, undefinable ways..
L236[12:34:30] <S3> I appreaciate languages that are written with the absolute minimum in its host language
L237[12:34:40] <S3> and then writes its entire foundation and everything else in itself
L238[12:35:26] <S3> it doesn't rid a language of bugs, it reduces the chances that some bug in the host language namespace will cause problems
L239[12:35:48] <S3> This is why Perl has a small C core, and is mostly written in Perl
L240[12:35:54] <S3> to avoid compiler bug problems
L241[12:36:44] <S3> Forth is an extreme example
L242[12:37:04] <S3> Forth can be implemented only using three or four instructions
L243[12:37:13] <S3> and the rest completely Forth
L244[12:37:33] <S3> three or four combinations of instructions, btw
L245[12:37:40] <S3> and then very little boilerplate
L246[12:38:24] <S3> granted people generally provide a reasonable set of primatives for performance..
L247[12:38:32] <S3> but it can be made extremely tiny
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L249[12:56:07] <Inari> Did you see EA's new gaming console? :o
L250[12:56:09] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/kr1CCmS.gif
L251[12:58:51] <Vexatos> not even new https://redd.it/7cw2m9
L252[12:59:09] <Inari> Psh :P
L253[12:59:13] <AmandaC> "Submitted 4 hours ago"
L254[12:59:36] <Inari> AmandaC: thats ancient in the world of nanoseconds
L255[13:02:12] <AmandaC> Inari's image is submitted 6h ago. :P
L256[13:38:36] <payonel> Vexatos: https://gist.github.com/payonel/46e909cb075e4f3c585fb2b972ef7ca7#file-locking-bios-lua
L257[13:40:27] <Vexatos> I should start building my booth >_>
L258[13:48:42] <payonel> Vexatos: that's the bios that will force filesystems to be ro
L259[13:48:58] <payonel> Vexatos: eeprom data is a comma separated list of addresses
L260[13:49:07] <payonel> the FIRST is the boot fs, every addr after that is ro locked
L261[13:49:46] <payonel> note that the eeprom in this bios is not self locking, so eeprom.setData could be used to circumvent
L262[13:49:57] <payonel> i'll add that later
L263[13:50:21] <payonel> to modify the eeprom, you'd need to insert it into another running machine that wasn't "locking" on boot
L264[13:50:44] <Vexatos> is the boot FS automatically locked?
L265[13:50:50] <payonel> no
L266[13:50:53] <payonel> just any fs listed
L267[13:50:58] <Vexatos> So I'd need to specify it twice
L268[13:51:04] <payonel> that is correct
L269[13:51:13] <Vexatos> and where do I do that? >_>
L270[13:51:15] <payonel> i can change it. this was my initial design for maximum flexibility
L271[13:51:19] <payonel> in the eeprom data
L272[13:51:26] <payonel> "comma separated list"
L273[13:51:28] <Vexatos> Right
L274[13:51:32] <Vexatos> I never used EEPROM data >_<
L275[13:51:49] <payonel> echo $addr_0,$addr_1 > /dev/eeprom-data
L276[13:52:17] <payonel> Vexatos: when i update the code to lock eeprom, i'll make it auto lock rootfs
L277[13:52:22] <payonel> would you like that instead?
L278[13:52:36] <Vexatos> I mean, My use of it would definitely have rootfs locked :P
L279[13:52:41] <payonel> coo
L280[13:52:48] <payonel> then you can have a list of 1 :)
L281[13:52:53] <payonel> which is default
L282[13:53:11] <Vexatos> in tryLoadFrom, you could add a address = c.get(address)
L283[13:53:19] <Vexatos> then you could use address stubs
L284[13:54:25] <payonel> Vexatos: that's an openos added function
L285[13:54:33] <payonel> not core to component
L286[13:54:42] <payonel> blame sangar
L287[13:54:42] <payonel> :)
L288[13:55:05] <Vexatos> uuh
L289[13:55:16] <Vexatos> Didn't I use it before on drones ._.
L290[13:55:34] <Vexatos> well whatever
L291[13:55:37] <payonel> i mean sure, i could add the logic in eeprom
L292[13:55:37] <Vexatos> not important >_>
L293[13:55:39] <payonel> :)
L294[14:00:29] <payonel> Vexatos: also, do you expect autorun to be enabled?
L295[14:00:41] <Vexatos> uh
L296[14:00:52] <Vexatos> Well I was going to use this for my selene computer
L297[14:00:52] <payonel> i liked the idea of having /home mounted to a rw drive
L298[14:00:58] <payonel> yeah
L299[14:01:03] <Vexatos> and it should definitely launch /bin/selene on boot
L300[14:01:08] <Vexatos> I thought just putting it into .shrc
L301[14:01:17] <Vexatos> Without even any rw drive in the thing
L302[14:01:19] <payonel> well, you can always modify your rootfs with a normal bios
L303[14:01:22] <Vexatos> because it's just to show off selene function
L304[14:01:25] <Vexatos> functions*
L305[14:01:34] <Vexatos> well yes that was the plan
L306[14:01:39] <Vexatos> just swap the EEPROMs
L307[14:01:41] <Vexatos> not that hard :I
L308[14:01:42] <payonel> yeah
L309[14:01:52] <payonel> k
L310[14:02:15] <Vexatos> same with the speech box
L311[14:02:28] <Vexatos> It's just be a promt where you enter text and it says it :P
L312[14:04:35] <payonel> Vexatos: a form of this should be the new eeprom
L313[14:04:45] <payonel> so ...
L314[14:05:02] <payonel> well, i mean, i'm seeing a pattern i like in this
L315[14:05:14] <Vexatos> ?
L316[14:05:15] <payonel> well ok, nothing to do with the locking part, but :)
L317[14:05:21] <payonel> so i'm mount /home to a rw drive
L318[14:05:31] <payonel> i could add that to the boot or something
L319[14:05:46] <Vexatos> ah yes
L320[14:05:46] <payonel> if rootfs is ro (basic first boot really, with openos floppy)
L321[14:05:51] <Vexatos> adding that to core openos would be nice
L322[14:05:53] <payonel> and i detect there is a rw drive, then mount that on /home
L323[14:06:08] <Vexatos> separate /home is a standard installation procedure in basically every linux distro nowadays :P
L324[14:06:13] <payonel> aye
L325[14:06:15] <payonel> ^.^
L326[14:06:19] <payonel> i think this would be nice
L327[14:06:27] <payonel> then people would just boot with openos floppy and have a rw /home
L328[14:06:36] <payonel> this would be AWESOME
L329[14:06:38] <Vexatos> and add to the core Lua BIOS the ability to specify boot and RO drives in data
L330[14:06:41] <payonel> why have i not done this?!
L331[14:06:47] <Vexatos> I mean
L332[14:06:48] <Vexatos> why not?
L333[14:07:00] <payonel> sure
L334[14:07:05] <payonel> it's a simple thing i've built
L335[14:07:08] <Vexatos> it's currently not using data at all
L336[14:07:19] <payonel> well not at all, but hardly
L337[14:07:27] <payonel> not+ not at all
L338[14:08:47] <payonel> eeprom ro
L339[14:08:48] <payonel> done!
L340[14:09:53] <payonel> Vexatos: https://gist.github.com/payonel/46e909cb075e4f3c585fb2b972ef7ca7/revisions
L341[14:10:12] <payonel> oh woops
L342[14:10:13] <payonel> bug
L343[14:10:14] <payonel> :)
L344[14:10:15] * payonel fix
L345[14:10:58] <payonel> fixed
L346[14:12:06] <payonel> Vexatos: so that bios with RO the rootfs AND eeprom
L347[14:12:28] <payonel> + and any additional fs listed, but i know you won't be using that feature
L348[14:12:39] <Vexatos> with?
L349[14:12:58] <Vexatos> Oh you meant "will" :I
L350[14:13:16] <payonel> you won't be using the feature to list multiple filesystems for ro
L351[14:13:25] <payonel> you'll just be mounting rootfs and eeprom ro
L352[14:13:37] <payonel> which that bios does by default, no configuration needed
L353[14:23:00] <Vexatos> I know
L354[14:23:16] <Vexatos> I initially didn't get what you mean by "that bios with RO the rootfs AND eeprom" but that "with" was probably a typo
L355[14:27:14] <payonel> aaah, yeah
L356[14:27:19] <payonel> thanks for decrypting that :)
L357[14:29:35] <S3> heh
L358[14:29:42] <S3> Vexatos:
L359[14:31:15] <Vexatos> Me:
L360[14:31:25] <Inari> Inari:
L361[14:31:30] <S3> Vexatos: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tLYE35ZQ/
L362[14:31:33] <S3> terrifying
L363[14:31:34] <S3> ^
L364[14:31:38] <Inari> <
L365[14:31:46] <payonel> v
L366[14:31:50] <S3> >
L367[14:32:24] <Vexatos> whatever that means
L368[14:32:25] <Vexatos> o
L369[14:32:27] <Vexatos> :I
L370[14:32:38] <S3> Vexatos: it's a greatest common denominator in Lua!
L371[14:32:46] <Vexatos> >cfun
L372[14:32:51] <S3> capture function!
L373[14:32:55] <Vexatos> :I
L374[14:32:58] <S3> arguments are like pattern matching
L375[14:33:05] <S3> similar
L376[14:33:07] <Vexatos> So selene compat when
L377[14:33:13] <AmandaC> what about capt.frog?
L378[14:33:15] <S3> lol
L379[14:33:21] <S3> I must make this capt.frog
L380[14:33:32] <AmandaC> and capt.goomba
L381[14:33:36] <S3> ol
L382[14:33:39] <S3> lol*
L383[14:33:50] <Vexatos> AmandaC, But what about Capt. Toad
L384[14:34:10] <S3> capt.flag
L385[14:34:13] <AmandaC> Vexatos: don't be silly, you shouldn't capture sentients. Except for that one seal
L386[14:34:26] <S3> SEALBERT?!
L387[14:34:28] <Inari> capt.loli
L388[14:34:40] <S3> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX7B3lFgKW0
L389[14:34:40] <MichiBot> Seabert English Intro (High Quality) | length: 1m 27s | Likes: 297 Dislikes: 19 Views: 135,818 | by frenchtoast | Published On 30/4/2009
L390[14:35:18] <Inari> https://imgur.com/2l0b0u4
L391[14:35:34] <Vexatos> S3, the syntax is gross
L392[14:36:35] <Vexatos> I mean
L393[14:36:49] <Vexatos> capt.cfun 'gcd' $("number", {"number", 0}) (x, y -> x)
L394[14:36:52] <Vexatos> still gross
L395[14:37:10] <Vexatos> Why would you do this kind of ugly syntax
L396[14:37:26] <AmandaC> Vexatos: because he wants to make FORTH in Lua
L397[14:37:43] <Vexatos> But that's not even remotely FORTH
L398[14:37:57] <payonel> needs more caps
L399[14:38:02] <Vexatos> ^
L400[14:38:06] <payonel> hehe
L401[14:38:11] <payonel> LUA
L402[14:38:11] <MichiBot> It's Lua, not LUA. Name not an acronym.
L403[14:38:13] <AmandaC> **FORTH**
L404[14:38:30] <Vexatos> FORTH
L405[14:38:51] <Vexatos> FORTH
L406[14:40:47] <payonel> i want to try using color
L407[14:41:02] <payonel> woo! that was fun
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L409[14:47:46] <ineternet> test
L410[14:48:15] <Skye> heelo
L411[14:48:29] <Skye> welcome to the #oc IRC channel
L412[14:48:44] <Skye> if you're seeing this then your OC IRC connection worked!
L413[14:48:54] <Skye> (no I'm not a bot but I felt like saying that)
L414[14:48:59] <Skye> ineternet, tset
L415[14:49:13] <ineternet> beautiful
L416[14:49:18] <ineternet> hi thanks
L417[14:49:20] <Skye> \o/
L418[14:49:47] <AshIndigo> %stab grub rescue
L419[14:49:47] * MichiBot stabs grub rescue with remote code execution omelette doing [13] damage
L420[14:50:51] <Michiyo> %flip ^
L421[14:50:52] <MichiBot> Michiyo: (╯°□°)╯/o\
L422[14:51:41] <ineternet> is it just this terminal or does the bot put question marks in words randomly
L423[14:52:02] <AshIndigo> Its probably the terminal
L424[14:52:12] <AshIndigo> I dont see any question marks
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L426[14:55:55] <CompanionCube> AshIndigo: how is your GRUB broken
L427[14:56:19] <AshIndigo> Trying to boot a live usb i made and it doesnt like me
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L429[14:58:44] <ineternet> how do i link a remote terminal to a server? sneak-rightclick doesnt work for me for some reason
L430[14:59:09] <AshIndigo> Do it on the indovidual rack iirc
L431[14:59:34] <ineternet> yeah, did that, didnt work
L432[15:00:09] <AshIndigo> ~w remote terminal
L433[15:00:09] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:terminal
L434[15:00:23] <Inari> I couldn't ever get them to wok xD
L435[15:00:45] <ineternet> doesnt explain how to use the remote terminal
L436[15:02:14] <ineternet> ok so apparently just right click without shift worked
L437[15:03:07] <AshIndigo> Wrll then
L438[15:05:12] <Michiyo> the question marks are Zero Width Space, and OC's font doesn't know how to render them.
L439[15:05:49] <Inari> %flip Michiyo
L440[15:05:49] <MichiBot> Inari: (╯°□°)╯oʎıɥɔıW
L441[15:05:52] <Michiyo> ZWS is used as antiping so the bot doesn't highlight people when it includes their names.
L442[15:06:12] <ineternet> #
L443[15:06:21] <ineternet> sorry, enter key broke
L444[15:07:02] <Michiyo> but yeah RE: terminal servers, right click the TS with the Remote, make sure to actually link the TS to a server in the rack GUI, profit.
L445[15:07:28] <Michiyo> I've forgotten to link them more than once.
L446[15:08:03] <ineternet> how do i link em though?
L447[15:08:20] <ineternet> oh i got it
L448[15:08:36] <ineternet> wow id never have guessed that
L449[15:08:42] <AmandaC> You go to a website on your phone and enter a code
L450[15:09:33] <Ron> Hey, starting out with the mod, and I have a question. I built a robot with a hard disk inside it, but the HDD is empty, how can I modify the HDD after the robot is already built? I want to add boot files so it won't error out
L451[15:12:03] <AshIndigo> No floppy drive?
L452[15:12:11] <Skye> @Ron, you can't unless you had a floppy drive
L453[15:12:22] <Skye> there might be a way with the charger but that might be tablets
L454[15:12:55] <Ron> So the robot is bricked? Since it can't boot
L455[15:13:39] <Michiyo> well.. you can put it in a disassembler and get the parts back out..
L456[15:13:42] <Michiyo> but yes, basically..
L457[15:14:19] <Michiyo> I usually just install OpenOS on the drive before I toss it in the assembler.
L458[15:14:44] <Ron> how do you install openOS on the drive? copy all files from the OS floppy to the drive?
L459[15:14:55] <AmandaC> run `install`
L460[15:15:04] <Michiyo> ^ just install it via a computer
L461[15:22:20] <ineternet> is there some way to put a floppy in a server?
L462[15:22:54] <Skye> a floppy drive or a floppy drive in a server rack
L463[15:23:43] <ineternet> alright thanks
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L468[16:16:59] <Forecaster> %give michibot an inariternet
L469[16:16:59] * MichiBot searches through her inventory for a bit. "I couldn't find anything..."
L470[16:37:31] <Inari> Forecaster: Fail!
L471[16:45:46] <Michiyo> %reverse ^
L472[16:45:46] <MichiBot> Michiyo: !liaF :retsaceroF
L473[16:51:21] <AmandaC> %choose now or later
L474[16:51:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: later
L475[16:51:27] <AmandaC> hrm. nah
L476[16:51:30] <AmandaC> bbs
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L478[17:10:01] <payonel> @Ron o/
L479[17:10:12] <payonel> Michiyo: i forget, how do i status check discorders?
L480[17:10:25] <Michiyo> @status @Ron
L481[17:10:25] <Discord> Ron is currently OFFLINE
L482[17:10:40] <payonel> @status @Michibot
L483[17:10:53] <payonel> :P
L484[17:10:53] <Michiyo> MichiBot doesn't exist on Discord :p
L485[17:12:55] <Michiyo> @status @Mimiru
L486[17:12:55] <Discord> Mimiru is currently OFFLINE
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L488[17:18:23] <AmandaC> @status @TheLordAndSaviourBob
L489[17:19:11] <AmandaC> @status @Discord
L490[17:19:25] * AmandaC ceases fun.py
L491[17:20:35] <payonel> %lua AmandaC=setmetatable({},{__index=function(_,k)return string.format("AmandaC doesn't know how to %s", k)end})
L492[17:20:55] <payonel> %lua AmandaC.stop_trolling()
L493[17:20:56] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to call field 'stop_trolling' (a string value)
L494[17:20:59] <payonel> derp
L495[17:21:31] <payonel> %lua AmandaC=setmetatable({},{__index=function(_,k)return function() string.format("AmandaC doesn't know how to %s", k)end end})
L496[17:21:32] <payonel> derp
L497[17:21:35] <payonel> %lua AmandaC.stop_trolling()
L498[17:21:38] <payonel> DO IT
L499[17:21:39] * payonel runs
L500[17:21:49] <payonel> %lua return AmandaC.stop_trolling()
L501[17:21:51] <payonel> i fail
L502[17:21:52] <Michiyo> Great..... you broke her.
L503[17:21:59] * Michiyo pets MichiBot
L504[17:21:59] * MichiBot purrs
L505[17:22:05] <payonel> %lua AmandaC=nil
L506[17:22:09] <payonel> :)
L507[17:22:09] <Michiyo> lol
L508[17:22:17] * AmandaC ceases to be in this timeline
L509[17:22:20] <Michiyo> how rude.. :p
L510[17:22:24] <Michiyo> noooooooo
L511[17:22:35] <S3> lol
L512[17:22:54] <S3> %lua while true do coroutine.yield() end
L513[17:23:11] <S3> :>
L514[17:24:01] <AmandaC> %blame S3
L515[17:24:01] * MichiBot blames S3 for slow internet speeds
L516[17:24:13] <S3> Heh
L517[17:24:15] <S3> Don't look at me
L518[17:24:23] <S3> I'm getting slow Internet speed stoo
L519[17:24:31] <S3> ima test right now
L520[17:24:36] <Michiyo> Also
L521[17:24:37] <Michiyo> %lua print("test")
L522[17:24:37] <MichiBot> test
L523[17:25:45] <S3> about 38 Mbit down
L524[17:25:51] <S3> when I should be getting about 60 - 70
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L527[17:32:47] <Kodos> After Friday, I'll have (up to) 100 down ?
L528[17:33:52] <payonel> sounds nice
L529[17:33:55] <payonel> i have 50
L530[17:34:57] <Kodos> I mean, I'm bundled with TV/DVR, and I'm paying through the nose, but I'll gladly pay it for both A) The high speed, and B) being out from under AT&T's shitty monopoly
L531[17:35:42] <S3> so
L532[17:35:51] <S3> I don't want any bundle
L533[17:35:55] <S3> I just need Internet, that's it
L534[17:35:57] <S3> and I'm happy
L535[17:36:22] <Kodos> I'm just getting TV so I can watch Doctor Who, and have random shit to watch during times when I just want to curl up under a blanket in my new recliner
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L537[17:40:21] <S3> Doctor who hasn't been good since the 60s
L538[17:55:56] <S3> Kodos But! at least chagat ya some tv maybe?
L539[17:56:14] <S3> All tv sucks here
L540[17:56:22] <S3> ever since they shut off analog tv
L541[17:56:35] <S3> everything was shitty, now it's shit.
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L552[20:14:20] <Izaya> new dw is p.good
L553[20:26:02] <payonel> Izaya: i need your opinion
L554[20:38:25] <Izaya> payonel: hinges are difficult
L555[20:57:57] <payonel> i want to make a feature for openos, if it boots on a RO device, and a RW device is detected, then /home is mounted to the RW device
L556[20:58:01] <payonel> Izaya: ^
L557[20:58:05] <payonel> which i think it awesome
L558[20:58:44] <Izaya> so /home would be /tmp in the installer?
L559[20:58:56] <payonel> well not tmp, becuase then you'd lose those files on reboot
L560[20:59:04] <payonel> but, if i mount /mnt/fe4 to /home -- then the files you create are at the root of fe4
L561[20:59:12] <Izaya> assuming no other disks anyway
L562[20:59:18] <payonel> one option is to mkdir /mnt/fe4 and then link /home to that
L563[20:59:36] <payonel> well, tmp is an option, but losing files on reboot might not be desirable
L564[20:59:40] <payonel> i'm open to that feedback as well
L565[20:59:56] <payonel> anyways, what if boot created /mnt/fe4/home
L566[21:00:00] <payonel> is that ... outrageous?
L567[21:00:28] <Izaya> and then pretended /home = /mnt/fe4/home ?
L568[21:00:34] <payonel> if instead i mount /mnt/fe4 directly to /home, the problem is now /mnt/fe4/ is polluted a bit, and if you then install to fe4, all your /home/* files are now at /*
L569[21:00:49] <payonel> Izaya: yes, i can link that up no problem
L570[21:00:58] <Izaya> I'd go with create a /home on the disk
L571[21:00:58] <payonel> the issue rather is creating /mnt/fe4/home
L572[21:01:01] <payonel> it is..unusual
L573[21:01:10] <Izaya> so if you install it's clean
L574[21:01:20] <payonel> thats the bonus of it
L575[21:01:24] <Izaya> also, check for disks with a home dir on them on boot etc
L576[21:01:36] <payonel> just, it's weird that something is created almost as a side effect of booting
L577[21:01:43] <Izaya> (you probably already thought about that but \o/ )
L578[21:01:45] <payonel> sure, that's not without merit
L579[21:01:45] <Izaya> hey
L580[21:01:49] <payonel> ;)
L581[21:01:57] <Izaya> you could make it only do it if you try to write to it
L582[21:02:05] <payonel> well. .....
L583[21:02:11] <payonel> i'd rather not...
L584[21:02:23] <payonel> that gets into more fancy meta behavior
L585[21:02:59] <S3> 2ok guys
L586[21:03:18] <gamax92> make it so that when you try writing to /home it says "Your disk is currently unformatted, would you like to format this disk?"
L587[21:04:36] <payonel> gamax92: >_>
L588[21:04:38] <payonel> haha
L589[21:13:04] <S3> you know mazes are like
L590[21:13:10] <S3> not just graphical
L591[21:13:13] <S3> I have this idea
L592[21:13:23] <S3> why not make a filesystem using procedural maze generation?
L593[21:13:24] <S3> :D
L594[21:13:31] <S3> you just store shit in the maze
L595[21:13:52] <S3> if you can't remember where you left it it's probably not as important
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L597[21:46:38] <payonel> S3: :/
L598[21:46:39] <payonel> heh
L599[21:46:52] <S3> rofl
L600[21:47:02] <S3> you'd do it!
L601[21:47:02] <AmandaC> payonel: make install move the files first, then place a magic cookie to stop further installs
L602[21:47:26] <AmandaC> S3: I fail to see how that's different from a normal users fs
L603[21:48:11] <AmandaC> I've lost count of the number of times I've had to remind my dad that folders exist
L604[21:49:04] <Saphire> xD
L605[21:49:09] <AmandaC> A FS with content addressable storage would probably do well for him
L606[21:49:30] <S3> AmandaC: :D
L607[21:49:42] <S3> I like how I can make a decent clean organized homedir layout
L608[21:49:42] <gamax92> time to watch anime
L609[21:49:48] <S3> and in 3 days there's shit EVERYWHERE
L610[21:49:59] <AmandaC> gamax92: what're you goin to reach?
L611[21:50:03] <AmandaC> Watch*
L612[21:50:16] <gamax92> I dunno.
L613[21:50:20] <AmandaC> Ah
L614[21:50:35] <gamax92> have any suggestions? :P
L615[21:50:53] <gamax92> otherwise I'm going to go watch one from a random selection
L616[21:51:14] <AmandaC> I just watched the first couple episodes of kakkai sensen S2, liking it
L617[21:51:38] <AmandaC> Going to bed soon I think though
L618[21:52:27] <AmandaC> Also the ancient magus' bride is good so far
L619[22:03:34] * AmandaC pads around in a circle, lays down against her pillow pile, sleeps
L620[22:03:38] <AmandaC> Night nerds
L621[22:20:41] <Saphire> AmandaC: tagsistant FUSE
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L626[22:45:30] <Dudblockman> Holy mother of tamales
L627[22:45:54] <Dudblockman> My computer just started closing applications at seemingly random
L628[22:46:28] <Dudblockman> Looked at my rainmeter stats overlay
L629[22:47:07] <Dudblockman> RAM was full, and my computer managed to eat 90 gigs of swap memory
L630[22:48:32] <Dudblockman> Started trying to debug, noticed LCore.exe was chowing down on my memory
L631[22:49:16] <Dudblockman> I guess a memory leak? In any case, as soon as I tried to kill Logitech, BSOD
L632[22:50:24] <Dudblockman> I think I understand the occasional random BSODs I have had happen in the past few months now
L633[22:54:30] <Temia> Holy cow
L634[22:55:46] <gamax92> Dirty cow
L635[23:04:08] <Kodos> How the hell is this not valid
L636[23:05:08] <Kodos> http://tinyurl.com/yb9xknhn
L637[23:05:55] <Kodos> Says insufficient operands "OR"
L638[23:15:58] <Dudblockman> I finally caught what I feel was the cause of the crshes red handed
L639[23:16:07] <Dudblockman> So thats a plus
L640[23:25:12] <Forecaster> @Kodos the operands come after the keyword
L641[23:26:46] <Forecaster> Code Block pastebined https://paste.pc-logix.com/ugadupapid
L642[23:28:29] <Kodos> Not according to the example
L643[23:28:34] <Kodos> But I will try it
L644[23:28:59] <Kodos> Worked. That's just silly
L645[23:29:08] <Kodos> Example needs updated
L646[23:29:42] <Forecaster> It's always worked like that
L647[23:30:00] <Forecaster> I don't know how the example is even wrong
L648[23:30:04] <Kodos> Still. Example doesn't even use or
L649[23:30:14] <Kodos> Hang on
L650[23:31:13] <Kodos> Nvm phone won't uplod
L651[23:35:25] <Kodos> Locos at full speed on hs rails are loco lol
L652[23:46:25] <Arcanitor> what language is that?
L653[23:48:35] <Kodos> Language?
L654[23:48:43] <Kodos> It's railcraft routing
L655[23:49:18] <Kodos> Also fore will a loco accept solid fuel from an item loader
L656[23:49:30] <Kodos> Or actually
L657[23:49:44] <Kodos> Can I use needs refuel when it's low on coke or just water
L658[23:49:53] <Arcanitor> wait railcraft has a routing system
L659[23:49:55] <Arcanitor> TIL
L660[23:50:08] <Arcanitor> i've got to check this out someday when I have more time
L661[23:50:18] <Kodos> Keep in mind I'm still playing 1.7
L662[23:50:25] <Arcanitor> so do I
L663[23:50:30] <Kodos> Good ?
L664[23:51:00] <Arcanitor> on a scale of vanilla factorio to Logistics Train Network how "smart" is the routing
L665[23:51:10] <Arcanitor> more how "smart" can it be I guess
L666[23:51:30] <Forecaster> @Kodos needs refuel will return true when either fuel or water is below 50%
L667[23:51:48] <Arcanitor> 50%'s a little high
L668[23:51:53] <Arcanitor> is that configureable?
L669[23:51:55] <Kodos> Water triggers below one bucket
L670[23:51:58] <Forecaster> No
L671[23:52:01] <Kodos> Not sure on fuel
L672[23:52:07] <Kodos> Need to test more
L673[23:53:08] <Arcanitor> I once made a bunch of HS rail for a nether railway but the server admin whose server I was on decided to do periodic nether resets
L674[23:58:29] <Izaya> [somewhat late] Windows decided to kill Minecraft the other day because it was using 6/10GB used, despite the fact I had 6 free >.>
L675[23:58:38] <Izaya> Eating 90GB of memory is totally insane though
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