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L15[00:20:52] <Mimiru> %octime
L16[00:20:52] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
2017-Oct-26 05:20:52
L17[00:21:00] <Mimiru> welp, seems that
fixed the time drift
L18[00:21:26] <Mimiru> I'm off to bed
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<MGR>
https://videocardz.com/73702/amd-launches-ryzen-mobile-7-2700u-5-2500u-with-vega-graphics
<MGR>
https://videocardz.com/73702/amd-launches-ryzen-mobile-7-2700u-5-2500u-with-vega-graphicsL35[06:08:17] <MGR> Lol,
get wrekt Intel
<MGR> Lol,
get wrekt IntelL36[06:08:37] <MGR>
@Mimiru Finally some good APUs for you ?
<MGR>
@Mimiru Finally some good APUs for you ?L37[06:08:49] <MGR> Only
in laptop so far, but they'll be coming to desktop soonish
<MGR> Only
in laptop so far, but they'll be coming to desktop soonishL38[06:28:16] ⇨
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L39[06:44:35] <Kodos>
Ryzen is garbage
<Kodos>
Ryzen is garbageL40[06:44:38] <Kodos> what
are you talking about
<Kodos> what
are you talking aboutL41[06:46:02] <MGR>
....
<MGR>
....L42[06:46:07] <MGR> How is
Ryzen garbage?
<MGR> How is
Ryzen garbage?L43[06:46:15] ⇨
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L44[06:46:21] <Izaya> Just use POWER9
:^)
L45[06:58:51] <MGR>
@Kodos
<MGR>
@KodosL46[07:06:52] <MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯L47[07:07:33] <MGR> On my
IRC client, it shows up as it looks on Discord, except the face
between the () shows up as a square
<MGR> On my
IRC client, it shows up as it looks on Discord, except the face
between the () shows up as a squareL48[07:07:37] <MGR> Which
is pretty funny
<MGR> Which
is pretty funnyL49[07:16:05] <Xilandro> Considering
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ works, yeah
L50[07:16:34] <MGR>
Xilandro, how is Ryzen garbage?
<MGR>
Xilandro, how is Ryzen garbage?L51[07:16:48] <Xilandro> It's AMD
L52[07:16:59] <Xilandro> Intel hardware
will always be superior
L53[07:17:31] <Izaya> tfw no beasty cyrix
chips
L54[07:17:56] <MGR> I
mean.... I think that's at least a *little* biased. True, Ryzen
still doesn't match in single-threaded, but it's come pretty close
for multithreading and price to match Intel
<MGR> I
mean.... I think that's at least a *little* biased. True, Ryzen
still doesn't match in single-threaded, but it's come pretty close
for multithreading and price to match IntelL55[07:25:08] <MGR> In
other news, I just saved $70 because I'm willing to change 2 air
filters
<MGR> In
other news, I just saved $70 because I'm willing to change 2 air
filtersL56[07:25:23] <MGR> But 1
has an insanely long ship time
<MGR> But 1
has an insanely long ship timeL57[07:25:30] <MGR>
Estimated delivery Tue, Nov 14 - Tue, Dec 19
<MGR>
Estimated delivery Tue, Nov 14 - Tue, Dec 19L58[07:27:11] ⇦
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L59[07:30:11] <MGR> @Lizzy
Just wanted to let you know, one of the notifications on the
OpenComputers forum ended in my spam
<MGR> @Lizzy
Just wanted to let you know, one of the notifications on the
OpenComputers forum ended in my spamL60[07:30:19] <MGR> I'm
not sure if that's something you need/want to know
<MGR> I'm
not sure if that's something you need/want to knowL61[07:30:57] <Lizzy> What
email service do you use and does it day why it ended up in
spam?
<Lizzy> What
email service do you use and does it day why it ended up in
spam?L62[07:31:35] <Lizzy> The
forums use Sangars mail server
<Lizzy> The
forums use Sangars mail serverL63[07:32:47] <MGR> I use
gmail
<MGR> I use
gmailL64[07:32:57] <MGR> I
don't think it said so, let me check
<MGR> I
don't think it said so, let me checkL65[07:34:03] <MGR> I
think sharing a dream for me is either a football trophy or
abdondoned puppy --- Quote 1/3
<MGR> I
think sharing a dream for me is either a football trophy or
abdondoned puppy --- Quote 1/3L66[07:34:41] <MGR>
Unfortunately, it doesn't say, and I had already marked it as not
spam
<MGR>
Unfortunately, it doesn't say, and I had already marked it as not
spamL67[07:35:06] <Lizzy>
Ok
<Lizzy>
OkL68[07:36:48] <MGR> If it
happens again, I'll be sure to check more thoroughly
<MGR> If it
happens again, I'll be sure to check more thoroughlyL69[07:39:00] ⇨
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L70[07:39:42] <Corded> * <MGR> takes
the opportunity to clean out c. 300 emails
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L72[07:41:43] <MGR> Much
better
<MGR> Much
betterL73[07:43:27] <MGR> I
can't end up looking like my great aunt with 10K emails
<MGR> I
can't end up looking like my great aunt with 10K emailsL74[07:54:37] *
AshIndigo wonders why its possible to connect a phone to
ethernet
L75[07:55:12] <Izaya> Actual ethernet or
just the jack shape?
L76[07:55:24] <ben_mkiv> VoIP?
L77[07:55:26] <MGR> You
can use a USB adapter, right?
<MGR> You
can use a USB adapter, right?L78[07:55:44] <Izaya> ^ could be for VoIP
stuff
L79[07:56:04] <AshIndigo> Usb ethernet
adapter
L80[07:58:23] <AmandaC> AshIndigo: Cell
phone? PRobably for demo purposes. At one of the Google I/Os I went
to they had all the phones hooked up like that
L81[07:58:38] <AmandaC> for some demo
thing
L82[07:59:27] <MGR>
http://www.dx.com/p/winyao-usb1000f-sx-usb-3-0-realtek-rtl8153-gigabit-fiber-network-card-black-344748
<MGR>
http://www.dx.com/p/winyao-usb1000f-sx-usb-3-0-realtek-rtl8153-gigabit-fiber-network-card-black-344748L83[07:59:35] <MGR> Now
that's something I'm interested in
<MGR> Now
that's something I'm interested inL84[07:59:44] <MGR> I'd
need it if I switched my house over to fiber optics
<MGR> I'd
need it if I switched my house over to fiber opticsL85[08:00:10] <AshIndigo> What about
personal use?
L86[08:00:24] <AmandaC> It's likely easier
to leave the code in the production build
L87[08:00:40] <MGR> Could
be if you want to connect your phone to the Internet, and there is
no WiFi, and you don't want to / can't use data
<MGR> Could
be if you want to connect your phone to the Internet, and there is
no WiFi, and you don't want to / can't use dataL88[08:00:43] <AmandaC> It's just
monitoring for a new network interface and doing the requisit DHCP
dances
L89[08:00:47] <MGR> Or to
the local Intranet
<MGR> Or to
the local IntranetL90[08:01:38] <AmandaC> Same reason you can
plug a mouse / keyboard in in later versions of Android (Jellybean
+ I think? )
L91[08:01:58] <AshIndigo> The more you
know
L92[08:02:22] <AmandaC> Though,
mouse/keyboard is likely more for the case of assistive stuff
L93[08:02:29] <AmandaC> ( and tablets
)
L94[08:02:59] <AshIndigo> Tablets make
sense
L95[08:03:05] <Corded> * <MGR> finds
a SFP to RJ45 box
L96[08:03:16] <MGR>
Hmm
<MGR>
HmmL97[08:03:50] <Mimiru> I've used my phone
to connect to ethernet a few times to troubleshoot issues with a
specific set of ports on a managed switch..
L98[08:04:12] <Mimiru> wifi was useless,
and I didn't have my laptop.. so phone it was.
L99[08:04:44] <Izaya> ...Y'know, I never
tried OTG on my old 2.3 phone
L100[08:05:01] <Izaya> ...Huh.
L101[08:06:02] *
AshIndigo doesnt remember if hes ever used otg on his current
phone
L102[08:06:16] <MGR> I used
it once
<MGR> I used
it onceL103[08:06:21] <Inari> TIL emojis are
ligatures
L104[08:06:21] <MGR> Just
to see if it would work
<MGR> Just
to see if it would workL105[08:06:35] <MGR> And it
did work with my 3-in-1 USB Drive, so I was happy
<MGR> And it
did work with my 3-in-1 USB Drive, so I was happyL106[08:07:28] <Izaya> I have a wonderful
micro-USB to A socket adaptor
L107[08:07:43] <Izaya> Doesn't seem to
like USB 3 devices but it's not like those are real anyway.
L108[08:07:56] <MGR> A.
They are real
<MGR> A.
They are realL109[08:08:07] <MGR> B. USB
C is displacing micro-USB, and Type A ?
<MGR> B. USB
C is displacing micro-USB, and Type A ?L110[08:08:07] <AshIndigo> I once used an
otg cable to setup a stupid way to adapt a serial cable to micro
usb
L111[08:08:24] <AshIndigo> It worked
though
L112[08:08:51] <Inari> https://twitter.com/nieldlr/status/922742648196255744
L113[08:08:52] <MichiBot> Tue Oct 24
03:32:45 CDT 2017 @nieldlr: Woah. Who knew? The ???? emoji is a
ligature. So you can do this in your Chrome console. #mindblown
https://t.co/zz2JeMYwfk
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L115[08:09:12] <AmandaC> Inari: hehe
L116[08:09:14] <Izaya> Terrible idea:
micro USB -> A socket -> A plug to micro USB plug -> other
phone
L117[08:09:21] <Izaya> Can I use the
platform tools on Android?
L118[08:10:33] *
AshIndigo shrugs
L119[08:10:58] <AmandaC> Izaya: that
"terrible idea" is how the Pixel phone I have had you
transfer your stuff from your old phone to it during the setup
process. Cae with a female-A to C adapter in the box
L120[08:11:22] <Izaya> AmandaC: That's
mildly horrifying :D
L121[08:11:40] <Izaya> It'd be nice to be
able to use adb to transfer files, sucks less than MTP
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L123[08:12:07] <Izaya> Does Android even
cope as an MTP client?
L124[08:12:41] <AmandaC> I'm sure there's
apps for it using the USB APIs
L125[08:12:57] <Izaya> "there's an
app for that"
L126[08:13:44] <MGR> That
reminds me of an old Nokia Lumia 920 commercial....
<MGR> That
reminds me of an old Nokia Lumia 920 commercial....L127[08:20:23] <Kodos>
Wait, I can't browse MCF without a Twitch Account now?
<Kodos>
Wait, I can't browse MCF without a Twitch Account now?L128[08:20:55] <Kodos> Fuck
Twitch and its hostile takeover of virtually everything
<Kodos> Fuck
Twitch and its hostile takeover of virtually everythingL129[08:21:07] <Izaya> I hate all this
centralization
L130[08:21:33] <Izaya> Two episodes
left...
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L134[08:23:56] <MGR> I
don't like it being integrated into Twitch either
<MGR> I
don't like it being integrated into Twitch eitherL135[08:24:01] <MGR> It
should integrate into Google
<MGR> It
should integrate into GoogleL136[08:26:20] <MGR> I'm so
confused
<MGR> I'm so
confusedL137[08:26:36] <MGR> How am
I stuck looking up a replacement bulb for this lamp? This isn't
even my job?!
<MGR> How am
I stuck looking up a replacement bulb for this lamp? This isn't
even my job?!L138[08:27:10]
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L145[08:55:49] <Michiyo> %octime
L146[08:55:49] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
2017-Oct-26 13:55:49
L147[08:55:56] <MGR>
Michiyo, Raven Ridge is out
<MGR>
Michiyo, Raven Ridge is outL148[08:55:57] <Michiyo> \o/ no more
drift.
L149[08:56:01] <MGR>
Finally a good APU ?
<MGR>
Finally a good APU ?L150[08:56:11] <Michiyo> I saw your
message this morning :P
L151[08:56:42] <MGR> Ah,
ok
<MGR> Ah,
okL152[08:56:55] <Michiyo> pretty meh on
APUs anyway :P
L153[08:57:01] <MGR> I can
link you another more detailed article if you want
<MGR> I can
link you another more detailed article if you wantL154[08:57:12] <vifino> Inari: Many emojis
are, but for sure not all.
L155[08:57:17] <MGR> About
how badly it curbstomps the old 9800p
<MGR> About
how badly it curbstomps the old 9800pL156[08:57:48] <Michiyo> No, I'm good..
thanks.
L157[08:58:11] <MGR> No
problem
<MGR> No
problemL158[08:59:34] <Inari> vifino: Yeah I
can't seem to combine love hotel with anything
L159[08:59:34] <Inari> :P
L160[09:00:38] *
Michiyo sighs
L161[09:01:02] <MGR> Truck
day?
<MGR> Truck
day?L162[09:01:18] <Michiyo> Yes, but that's
not the problem
L163[09:01:48] <MGR> What
is?
<MGR> What
is?L164[09:01:57] <vifino> Basically,
<base emoji> + ZWJ + <base emoji> is the combination of
the two. The base emojis range from the standard faces to letters
and modifiers such as the skin tone ones.
L165[09:02:01] <vifino> Pretty neat.
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L169[09:02:34] <Michiyo> Umm
L170[09:02:40] <Michiyo> sure Hexchat just
crash.. randomly
L171[09:03:04] <Michiyo> anyway... the
problem is I have to build something like this: http://www.dorkbotpdx.org/files/images/battery_load_pulser3.jpg
L172[09:03:27] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL173[09:03:35] <Michiyo> with.... none of
that handy, and less than a week to source them, build it, and ship
it to Oregon.
L174[09:05:12] <Michiyo> I do have the
3906's but not the 2222's ._.
L175[09:05:27] <MGR>
Uh
<MGR>
UhL176[09:05:34] <MGR> Magic
them?
<MGR> Magic
them?L177[09:05:51] <MGR> Have
them shipped with my new air filter, which could arrive sometime
before Dec 19?
<MGR> Have
them shipped with my new air filter, which could arrive sometime
before Dec 19?L178[09:09:40] <Michiyo> ok.. looks like I
can replace the 2n2222 with pretty much.. anything in this
assortment pack I have here.
L179[09:12:26] <logan2611>
lol
<logan2611>
lolL180[09:16:29] ⇦
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L181[09:22:27] <MGR>
"Right...well the actual document you want to print...is in
black and white, unfortunately I can't make a black and white
document into a colourful print..." --- Quote 2/3
<MGR>
"Right...well the actual document you want to print...is in
black and white, unfortunately I can't make a black and white
document into a colourful print..." --- Quote 2/3L182[09:22:40] <Michiyo> But yeah.. we're
using a USB power pack for the electronics in this helmet, and the
current load is so low.. that the pack turns off
L183[09:23:24] <Michiyo> so basically this
pulses a 50ms load to keep the pack awake.
L184[09:24:07] *
AshIndigo smacks the power pack
L185[09:25:00] <SAL9000> Michiyo: https://lifepo4wered.com/lifepo4wered-usb.html
L186[09:25:40] <Michiyo> I need 5volts,
which is why I'm using a USB pack.
L187[09:25:47] <SAL9000> Ah.
L188[09:25:57] <Michiyo> otherwise I'd
just tap the pack directly (which is what I did for the LEDs)
:P
L189[09:26:46] <Michiyo> that *IS* pretty
damn neat though
L190[09:26:50] <Michiyo> I'll keep that in
mind, thanks.
L191[09:27:14] <SAL9000> their 'primary'
product is a RasPi "UPS" based on the same idea
L192[09:27:29] <MGR> What
about silver oxide batteries? :waggles eyebrows:
<MGR> What
about silver oxide batteries? :waggles eyebrows:L193[09:27:32] <SAL9000> separate versions
for Pi/Pi2 and Pi3 because the latter has higher power
requirements
L195[09:28:20] <MGR> 40%
more runtime than Lithium Ion, 0% of the explosion hazard
<MGR> 40%
more runtime than Lithium Ion, 0% of the explosion hazardL196[09:28:56] *
AshIndigo sticks a thumbtack in it
L197[09:29:03] <Izaya> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ryzen-Mobile-Today
decent GPU perf sounds nice, though I'd be worried about power
usage
L198[09:30:51] <MGR> ... I
already linked an article about that
<MGR> ... I
already linked an article about thatL199[09:30:57] <MGR> Izaya,
power usage is comparable to Intel
<MGR> Izaya,
power usage is comparable to IntelL200[09:31:07] <MGR> I.E.
Lower than BR
<MGR> I.E.
Lower than BRL201[09:35:19] *
Izaya sighs
L202[09:35:38] <Izaya> It's too bad even
AMD chips have something comparable to the ME
L203[09:35:56] <Izaya> At least AMD is
slightly more likely to release the firmware I guess.
L204[09:36:10] <Izaya> RISC-V soon,
anyway.
L205[09:37:18] <MGR>
Psh
<MGR>
PshL206[09:44:02] <Izaya> Man, it's too bad
SiFive and the other one are taking a while
L207[09:44:38] <Izaya> I'd love to use a
RISC-V board in my laptop project than an ARM one
L208[09:45:10] <MGR>
.
<MGR>
.L209[09:45:13] <MGR>
Oops
<MGR>
OopsL210[09:45:25] <MGR>
""will this work?" *Proceeds to take an open blue
pen on his desk and physically signs the monitor on the line,
leaving a blue signature on his screen." --- Quote 3/3
<MGR>
""will this work?" *Proceeds to take an open blue
pen on his desk and physically signs the monitor on the line,
leaving a blue signature on his screen." --- Quote 3/3L211[09:48:11] *
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L217[10:10:52] <Muanh> hey guys
L218[10:11:26] <Muanh> what kind of
development environment do you use to develop oc programs?
L219[10:12:57] <MGR> Muanh,
I use Adobe Brackets, but even notepad works
<MGR> Muanh,
I use Adobe Brackets, but even notepad worksL220[10:13:54] <Muanh> I like to have code
completion, any way to get that working?
L221[10:14:50] <Muanh> Also, how do you
guys do deployment? I seem to have to restart to get my code into
the server
L222[10:16:37] <MGR> Muanh,
Adobe Brackets doesn't do that unfortunately, and I'm not sure what
does offer completion
<MGR> Muanh,
Adobe Brackets doesn't do that unfortunately, and I'm not sure what
does offer completionL223[10:16:59] <MGR> As for
development, I shutdown the computer, take the harddrive out, edit
the file in Brackets, put the hard drive back in, and start the
computer back up
<MGR> As for
development, I shutdown the computer, take the harddrive out, edit
the file in Brackets, put the hard drive back in, and start the
computer back upL224[10:17:10] <MGR> Unless
it is for small edits, in which case, I use the edit program
directly
<MGR> Unless
it is for small edits, in which case, I use the edit program
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L226[10:17:39] <MGR> I also
keep a separate copy of the code in a folder not linked to OC, so I
don't have to keep messing with the computer every time I want to
edit, I can just replace the file once
<MGR> I also
keep a separate copy of the code in a folder not linked to OC, so I
don't have to keep messing with the computer every time I want to
edit, I can just replace the file onceL227[10:18:10] <Muanh> Ahhh ok, thnx. I
use visual studio code with a Lua addon but it ofcourse doesn't
know the opencraft packages
L228[10:18:15] <Muanh> hoped there was a
way to get this working
L229[10:19:23] <Muanh> not to experienced
in Lua so this would have helped me :)
L230[10:20:33] <MGR> Yeah,
sorry about that
<MGR> Yeah,
sorry about thatL231[10:20:42] <MGR> If you
have any questions, feel free to ask them ?
<MGR> If you
have any questions, feel free to ask them ?L232[10:23:01] <Muanh> Thnx :)
L233[10:24:50] <MGR> Happy
to help
<MGR> Happy
to helpL234[10:27:35] <Muanh> Am at work now you
guys also in discord right?
L235[10:27:49] <Muanh> Easier to use when
I'm home
L236[10:27:51] <MGR> Yes we
are!
<MGR> Yes we
are!L237[10:28:00] <MGR>
There's an invite in the IRC topic
<MGR>
There's an invite in the IRC topicL238[10:28:14] <MGR> Join
the Discord awesomeness ?
<MGR> Join
the Discord awesomeness ?L239[10:30:30] <MGR>
Welcome @Muanh !
<MGR>
Welcome @Muanh !L240[10:32:30] <Muanh> The claim account
is not really working, will look at it when I'm home :)
L241[10:32:54] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL242[10:33:02] <MGR> Let me
know if it works out
<MGR> Let me
know if it works outL243[10:33:28] <Muanh> sure, thnx!
L244[10:33:37] <MGR> You're
welcome
<MGR> You're
welcomeL245[10:37:13]
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L247[10:42:54] <gamax92> @MGR why do you
take the hard drive out ...
L248[10:43:25] <MGR>
Because I had some issues before if I didn't
<MGR>
Because I had some issues before if I didn'tL249[10:43:53] <MGR> And I
never cared enough to investigate if I really have to take the
drive out
<MGR> And I
never cared enough to investigate if I really have to take the
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L255[11:10:47] <Muanh> Ok
normal client works, web client was being anoying
<Muanh> Ok
normal client works, web client was being anoyingL256[11:16:21]
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L257[11:30:22] <AmandaC> @MGR Likely the
issues are the caching being left on
L258[11:37:41] <Michiyo>
"bufferChanges"
L259[11:59:26] <Inari> Yeah with
bufferchanges on you have to take the drive out
L260[12:03:48] <Forecaster>
or reboot
<Forecaster>
or rebootL261[12:05:41] <Inari> I mean sure
L262[12:05:43] <Inari> But that takes even
longer
L263[12:05:44] <Inari> :D
L264[12:08:49] <Forecaster>
watching the entirety of ReBoot would take a while yeah
<Forecaster>
watching the entirety of ReBoot would take a while yeahL265[12:09:13] <Kodos> I
loved Reboot as a kid
<Kodos> I
loved Reboot as a kidL266[12:10:06] <Forecaster>
I've actually never seen any of it
<Forecaster>
I've actually never seen any of itL267[12:10:11] <Forecaster>
it didn't air here
<Forecaster>
it didn't air hereL268[12:10:44]
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L269[12:39:07] <AshIndigo> %stab
indentation
L270[12:39:07] *
MichiBot stabs indentation with player two doing [7] damage, player
two melts into a puddle of unidentifiable goo.
L271[12:57:32] <Forecaster>
ohno, not luigi!
<Forecaster>
ohno, not luigi!L272[13:02:12] <Guest8792> @kodos: Reboot
fan here as well
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L274[13:51:30] <MGR>
AmandaC, Inari, caching is left on, yes. It's why I knew to take
the drive out
<MGR>
AmandaC, Inari, caching is left on, yes. It's why I knew to take
the drive outL275[13:53:05] *
Michiyo pokes Guest8792
L276[13:57:28] <MGR> @Muanh
Welcome to OC Discord
<MGR> @Muanh
Welcome to OC DiscordL277[13:57:56] <Muanh> thnx
?
<Muanh> thnx
?L278[13:58:26] <Muanh>
seems like there are alot of people here but its not really
active
<Muanh>
seems like there are alot of people here but its not really
activeL279[13:58:26] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L280[13:58:50] <Forecaster>
I'm sorry we're not constantly talking all the time
<Forecaster>
I'm sorry we're not constantly talking all the timeL281[13:59:01] <Forecaster>
(that's a lie actually)
<Forecaster>
(that's a lie actually)L282[13:59:12] <Muanh>
everybody coding huh
<Muanh>
everybody coding huhL283[13:59:30] <MGR>
Activity comes and goes
<MGR>
Activity comes and goesL284[13:59:39] <MGR> I'm
usually around if I'm not sleeping
<MGR> I'm
usually around if I'm not sleepingL286[14:35:20]
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L290[15:01:41] <AmandaC> Prepare your
wallets, Steam Halloween sale is on
L291[15:02:18] <gamax92> Ugh my father is
a fucking idiot
L292[15:02:18] *
Izaya sighs, checks the store page
L293[15:02:55] <Izaya> Oh. ARK has a
season pass now.
L294[15:03:03] <Izaya> Bah.
L295[15:03:36] *
Temia looks at Steam.
L296[15:03:41] *
Temia pushes its face away. ' -'
L297[15:04:00] <Temia> Nah I'm good for
games for like ever.
L298[15:04:15] <Temia> Unless there are
some cute fairy or otome games coming to the store.
L299[15:04:21] <Temia> Or otome games
about cute fairies.
L300[15:07:10] <AmandaC> hehe
L301[15:07:37] <Muanh> is
it possible to get a better seed than time?
<Muanh> is
it possible to get a better seed than time?L302[15:08:06] <Muanh> as i
understand it time is from the moment the server started?
<Muanh> as i
understand it time is from the moment the server started?L303[15:08:08] <AmandaC> I just bought
Mario Oddesy earlier today, and now only have 1$ to my name that's
safe to spend, so.
L304[15:08:31] <AmandaC> So I'll do my
normal tactic for steam sales: just not look
L305[15:09:07] <Inari> Need more nice
Otome games
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L307[15:15:15] <Guest8792> Michiyo: i feel
funny
L308[15:15:24] <Guest8792> %whoami
L309[15:15:32] <Michiyo> You're no one..
:P
L310[15:15:38] <Michiyo> you've never
setup ns auth with znc :p
L311[15:15:46] *
Guest8792 screams but no sound emits
L312[15:16:09] *
AmandaC removes Guest8792's face
L313[15:16:11] <Michiyo> huh.. that isn't
a command either is it... I thought it was.
L314[15:16:13] <AmandaC>
s/face/mouth/
L315[15:16:14] <MichiBot> * AmandaC
removes Guest8792's mouth
L316[15:16:34] ***
Guest8792 is now known as payonel
L317[15:16:43]
zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L318[15:18:19] <MGR> @Muanh
Are you talking about a better seed for Lua's random number
generator?
<MGR> @Muanh
Are you talking about a better seed for Lua's random number
generator?L319[15:18:27] <Muanh>
yeah
<Muanh>
yeahL320[15:18:59] <MGR>
Someone a while ago did a test, and said that no matter the seed,
you can't make it truly random
<MGR>
Someone a while ago did a test, and said that no matter the seed,
you can't make it truly randomL321[15:19:06] <MGR> Which
is unfortunate
<MGR> Which
is unfortunateL322[15:19:31] <Muanh>
ofcourse you can't make it random
<Muanh>
ofcourse you can't make it randomL323[15:19:32] <AmandaC> "truely
random" is a pipe dream unacheveable by a computer
L324[15:19:34] <MGR>
However, I'll be eventually integrating a service into my eldest
you can contact to receive a random number stream
<MGR>
However, I'll be eventually integrating a service into my eldest
you can contact to receive a random number streamL325[15:19:36] <Muanh>
there is no such thing
<Muanh>
there is no such thingL326[15:19:41] <Muanh> but
a better seed would be nice
<Muanh> but
a better seed would be niceL327[15:19:50] <MGR> Fine.
Meets statistical standards for randomness
<MGR> Fine.
Meets statistical standards for randomnessL328[15:20:10] <MajGenRelativity> ~w
os
L329[15:20:10] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-os
L330[15:20:33] <AmandaC> And no, I don't
think that Lua uses Mercene Twister which is what's generally
considered more random. (MT is however, still not crypto-secure
)
L331[15:21:27] <MGR> @Muanh
os.time returns the ingame time in seconds since the world was
created
<MGR> @Muanh
os.time returns the ingame time in seconds since the world was
createdL332[15:21:35] <MGR> Which
seems to be the sum of all server uptime
<MGR> Which
seems to be the sum of all server uptimeL333[15:22:24] <Inari> @MGR of course you
can't
L334[15:22:28] <Inari> It's pseudo random
by nature
L335[15:22:42] <MGR> Well,
I wasn't sure what Muanh was asking
<MGR> Well,
I wasn't sure what Muanh was askingL336[15:22:45] <MGR> Maybe
he didn't know
<MGR> Maybe
he didn't knowL337[15:23:10] <Muanh> i'll
just use the internet card to call random.org
<Muanh> i'll
just use the internet card to call random.orgL338[15:23:27] <MGR> You
could do that
<MGR> You
could do thatL339[15:23:37] <Muanh> thnx
tho ?
<Muanh> thnx
tho ?L340[15:23:44] <payonel> just add two
random numbers together
L341[15:23:47] <payonel> BAM, 2x as
random
L342[15:23:51] <Inari> Hah
L343[15:24:06] <payonel> % off your max
range if you need to
L344[15:24:23] <MGR> @Muanh
No problem, happy to help
<MGR> @Muanh
No problem, happy to helpL345[15:24:34] <Inari> Why do you need
turly random numbers
L346[15:24:42] <MGR> I'll
also be making a similar service soonish
<MGR> I'll
also be making a similar service soonishL347[15:24:51] <Muanh> need
to generate a seed
<Muanh> need
to generate a seedL348[15:25:02] <Inari> ¬_¬
L349[15:25:05] <MGR>
For?
<MGR>
For?L350[15:25:10] <Inari> You're going to get
a seed from random.org?
L351[15:25:23] <Muanh> i'm
going to get random capital strings
<Muanh> i'm
going to get random capital stringsL352[15:25:30] <Muanh> and
concatinate them together
<Muanh> and
concatinate them togetherL353[15:25:53] <MGR> And
what's the purpose for that?
<MGR> And
what's the purpose for that?L354[15:26:35] <Inari> Love!
L355[15:26:46] <Muanh>
everything for love ?
<Muanh>
everything for love ?L356[15:27:31] <Muanh> but
yeah crypto stuff
<Muanh> but
yeah crypto stuffL357[15:27:39] <AmandaC> You shouldn't use
a random number for a seed
L358[15:27:53] <AmandaC> That does the
opposite, making the end reesult less random
L359[15:28:09] <gamax92> uhh
L360[15:28:25] <Muanh> how
you gonna get a seed if you are not randomly generating it?
<Muanh> how
you gonna get a seed if you are not randomly generating it?L361[15:28:37] <payonel>
random.seed(gamax92)
L362[15:28:48] <Muanh>
?
<Muanh>
?L363[15:28:54] <gamax92> from various
frequently changing system states
L364[15:28:59] <AmandaC> real computers
use the time, various diagnostic numbers from the computer,
sometimes airwave randomness
L365[15:29:11] <Muanh> yeah
thats why i use random.org
<Muanh> yeah
thats why i use random.orgL366[15:29:17] <Muanh> it
uses atmospheric noise
<Muanh> it
uses atmospheric noiseL367[15:29:31] <gamax92> are you just
going to always ask random.org for a value?
L368[15:29:32] <payonel> i just pipe irc
log into my random entropy
L369[15:29:47] <Muanh> i
don't need to call it that often
<Muanh> i
don't need to call it that oftenL370[15:29:55] <Corded> * <MGR>
repeats the same message constantly to subvert payonel's
entropy
L371[15:29:56] <gamax92> cause that's not
fast and puts a dependency on the internet
L372[15:30:14] <Muanh>
being dependend on the internet doesn't matter to me
<Muanh>
being dependend on the internet doesn't matter to meL373[15:30:15] <payonel> mgr: that's still
random though :)
L374[15:30:16] <AmandaC> either way no
matter what you seed it with, os.random isn't going to be
sufficently random for strong crypto
L375[15:30:31] <Muanh> i'm
not gonna seed random with it
<Muanh> i'm
not gonna seed random with itL376[15:30:32] <MGR>
How?
<MGR>
How?L377[15:30:34] <gamax92> I forget what
glibc's current randomizer is
L378[15:30:39] <MGR> It's
the same message
<MGR> It's
the same messageL379[15:30:43] <Muanh> i'm
just gonna get my seed directly from the values i get from
random.org
<Muanh> i'm
just gonna get my seed directly from the values i get from
random.orgL380[15:31:03] <gamax92> Amanda wasn't
talking about the seed itself, but the randomizer itself
L381[15:31:08] <AmandaC> gamax92: lasst I
heard / looked (early '00s) Mercene Twister was the new
hotness
L382[15:31:17] <payonel> Inari: https://www.catastrophicreations.com/
L383[15:31:17] <Mimiru> Loaded log from
Thu Feb 25 11:58:56 2016 wow it's been awhile since I used ZNC on
this computer
L384[15:31:22] <Inari> @MGR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXqxawvJudk
L385[15:31:25] <MichiBot> Kyousougiga -
Ai Desu! Ai!? Ai! Ai...? Hai! | length: 43s | Likes:
668 Dislikes: 3 Views: 50,760 | by Peter |
Published On 29/10/2013
L386[15:32:05] <AmandaC> ( Maybe not
"new" but it was the hotness everything was switching to
)
L387[15:32:23] <MGR> Inari,
uh
<MGR> Inari,
uhL388[15:32:26] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L389[15:32:29] <Inari> Love!
L390[15:32:38] <MGR>
Uhhhhhhhhhh
<MGR>
UhhhhhhhhhhL391[15:32:47] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L392[15:32:48] <Inari> xD
L393[15:33:26] <MGR>
?????
<MGR>
?????L394[15:33:35] <gamax92> glibc might just
be using an LGC
L395[15:35:17] <gamax92> but yeah, rand()
is not guarenteed to be a cryptographically secure PRNG and
math.random will use that
L396[15:36:03] <MGR>
^
<MGR>
^L397[15:36:22] <MGR> I'm
going to use Java's SecureRandom for my service
<MGR> I'm
going to use Java's SecureRandom for my serviceL398[15:36:35] <MGR>
Because it has "Secure" and "Random" in the
name XD
<MGR>
Because it has "Secure" and "Random" in the
name XDL399[15:36:59] <AmandaC> Does the Data
card have access to a secure RNG?
L400[15:37:15] <MajGenRelativity> ~w
data
L401[15:37:15] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:data
L402[15:37:34] <MGR>
random(len:number):string Generates a random binary string of len
length.
<MGR>
random(len:number):string Generates a random binary string of len
length.L403[15:37:55] <Muanh> if
it has secure and random in the name it must be random and
secure
<Muanh> if
it has secure and random in the name it must be random and
secureL404[15:37:58] <Muanh> no
doubt!
<Muanh> no
doubt!L405[15:37:59] <MGR> I'd
guess at it being a secure RNG, but I don't know the technical
underpinnings
<MGR> I'd
guess at it being a secure RNG, but I don't know the technical
underpinningsL406[15:38:07] <MGR> @Muanh
See! You get it too ?
<MGR> @Muanh
See! You get it too ?L407[15:39:11] <gamax92> SecureRandom was
based off a modified SHA-1 iirc and thus has 160 bit state
L408[15:39:23] <gamax92> Java's normal
randomizer has 48 bit state
L409[15:39:46] <AmandaC> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/component/DataCard.scala#L75-L77
L410[15:40:09] <gamax92> ahh yep,
"SHA1PRNG"
L411[15:40:18] <MGR> So, it
does appear the data card has true randoms
<MGR> So, it
does appear the data card has true randomsL412[15:40:20] <MGR> Good
to know
<MGR> Good
to knowL413[15:40:24] <MGR>
"true"
<MGR>
"true"L414[15:40:28] <gamax92> not true at all
:P
L415[15:40:29] <Muanh> how
does it seed?
<Muanh> how
does it seed?L416[15:40:35] <Corded> * <MGR>
sighs
L417[15:40:38] <MGR>
gamax92, I know
<MGR>
gamax92, I knowL418[15:40:55] <gamax92> SecureRandom
takes a seed from the underlying os's entropy pool
L419[15:41:39] <gamax92> and or does a
task and times how long it took and uses that as a seed, but this
is rarely done
L420[15:43:22] <Muanh> mmm,
ok seems secure enough?
<Muanh> mmm,
ok seems secure enough?L421[15:45:03] <MGR> I
think so
<MGR> I
think soL422[15:52:23] <AmandaC> It's more secure
than what you'd cobble together with os.seed/os.random for
sure
L423[15:54:41] <Corded> * <MGR>
nods
L424[15:55:47] <AmandaC> That's not meant
to be shade at you, btw. Number one rule of crypto club: Don't
invent your own crypto. Number Two: DO NOT INVENT YOUR OWN
CRYPTO.
L425[15:55:58] <AmandaC> ( RNGs fall under
the pervue of "crypto" here )
L426[15:57:37] *
CompanionCube glares at MGR knowinfly
L427[15:57:40] <CompanionCube>
*knowingly
L428[15:57:57] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L429[15:58:36] <AmandaC> %choose watch LP
or meh
L430[15:58:36] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
meh
L431[15:58:38] <AmandaC> hrm
L432[15:58:54] <CompanionCube> AmandaC:
oh, and rule 2 because why not: crypto that relies on secret
implementation details isn't worth a damn
L433[16:00:34] <AmandaC> CompanionCube:
but muh trade secrets! Can't have the competors knowing about our
new and novel byte-based math for encrypting thing with a single
instruction per byte!
L434[16:01:06] <MGR> No
software should have secret implementation details as its *only*
defense
<MGR> No
software should have secret implementation details as its *only*
defenseL435[16:01:07] <Muanh> yes
i read the memo ?
<Muanh> yes
i read the memo ?L436[16:01:32] <Muanh> now
just need to get the bit string i get back into bytes ?
<Muanh> now
just need to get the bit string i get back into bytes ?L437[16:02:30] <CompanionCube> AmandaC:
does XOR have implementation details to leak even?
L438[16:02:55] <AmandaC> CompanionCube:
thatsthejoke.tiff
L439[16:05:42] <MGR> .tiff,
now that's something I haven't seen in a while
<MGR> .tiff,
now that's something I haven't seen in a whileL440[16:07:51] <Forecaster>
sigh, great, switching back from Signal to the default text app
means loosing anything received while using Signal :|
<Forecaster>
sigh, great, switching back from Signal to the default text app
means loosing anything received while using Signal :|L441[16:09:41] <Corded> * <MGR>
looks at his code
L442[16:09:54] <MGR> I'm
not sure what I was thinking when I did this
<MGR> I'm
not sure what I was thinking when I did thisL443[16:10:09] <Forecaster>
%stab Signal
<Forecaster>
%stab SignalL444[16:10:09] *
MichiBot stabs Signal with a polynomial dice doing [9]
damage
L446[16:10:28] <CompanionCube> makes
sense
L447[16:10:34] <MGR>
Lol
<MGR>
LolL448[16:10:42] <CompanionCube> to both
things
L449[16:11:26] <MGR> I
think I was trying to fix a different issue, but I did it
wrong
<MGR> I
think I was trying to fix a different issue, but I did it
wrongL450[16:11:39] <Muanh> did
any of you guys use the data card?
<Muanh> did
any of you guys use the data card?L451[16:12:01] <Muanh>
because it says the component name is data but I can't import it
with require
<Muanh>
because it says the component name is data but I can't import it
with requireL452[16:13:18] <Michiyo> local component =
require("component) local data = component.data should work
fine...
L453[16:13:22] <MGR> You
use local component = require("component")
<MGR> You
use local component = require("component")L454[16:13:26] <MGR>
Ninja'd
<MGR>
Ninja'dL455[16:13:28] <Michiyo> or... however
that's done :p
L456[16:13:32] <Muanh> ahh
ok thnx ?
<Muanh> ahh
ok thnx ?L457[16:13:36] <Forecaster>
it's a component, not an API
<Forecaster>
it's a component, not an APIL458[16:13:42] <MGR>
Michiyo, you did it right ?
<MGR>
Michiyo, you did it right ?L459[16:14:06] <Muanh>
weird that internet does work with
require("internet")
<Muanh>
weird that internet does work with
require("internet")L460[16:14:18] <MGR> There
is an internet component, and an internet API
<MGR> There
is an internet component, and an internet APIL461[16:14:23] <MGR> Same
with robots
<MGR> Same
with robotsL462[16:14:24] <Michiyo> I bumped up my
topamax.. everything requiring actual brain processing is a bit
fuzzy
L463[16:14:36] <MGR> The
API provides more abstracted and easier functionality
<MGR> The
API provides more abstracted and easier functionalityL464[16:14:54] <Muanh> ahhh
so I actually don't need the card?
<Muanh> ahhh
so I actually don't need the card?L465[16:15:01] <Michiyo> No, you need the
card..
L466[16:15:09] <Muanh> ok
its just a wrapper
<Muanh> ok
its just a wrapperL467[16:15:16] <MGR>
^
<MGR>
^L468[16:15:30] <Forecaster>
Great, now I have to keep signal
<Forecaster>
Great, now I have to keep signalL469[16:15:41] <Michiyo> no way to
export/import?
L470[16:16:12] <Michiyo> I know android
lets you do import texts to the default text app.. I've done
it
L471[16:16:23] <Forecaster>
There is plaintext export
<Forecaster>
There is plaintext exportL472[16:16:30] <MGR> And
today, ladies and gentlemen, I learned why you don't make large
changes in your OC program without copying it to your master file
right away
<MGR> And
today, ladies and gentlemen, I learned why you don't make large
changes in your OC program without copying it to your master file
right awayL473[16:16:48] <Forecaster>
Oh, it says it supports default restore
<Forecaster>
Oh, it says it supports default restoreL474[16:16:51] <Forecaster>
Awesome
<Forecaster>
AwesomeL475[16:16:52] <MGR>
Otherwise, it can cause you to miss critically important codeblocks
that stop things from breaking
<MGR>
Otherwise, it can cause you to miss critically important codeblocks
that stop things from breakingL476[16:17:51] <Michiyo> Provide plaintext
export support, in a format compatible with
L477[16:17:51] <Michiyo> the "SMS
Backup And Restore" app.
L478[16:17:58] <Michiyo> from their git
changes lol
L479[16:18:02] <Michiyo> Oh
L480[16:18:04] <Michiyo> you found
it..
L481[16:18:04] <Michiyo> k
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L483[16:20:10] <Forecaster>
OH
<Forecaster>
OHL484[16:20:30] <Forecaster>
Nevermind
<Forecaster>
NevermindL485[16:20:52] <Forecaster>
You can turn of screen security in the settings in signal
<Forecaster>
You can turn of screen security in the settings in signalL486[16:20:59] <Forecaster>
All is well
<Forecaster>
All is wellL487[16:25:13] <Forecaster>
off*
<Forecaster>
off*L488[16:37:32]
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L490[16:39:31] <Muanh> is
this still up to date?
<Muanh> is
this still up to date?L491[16:40:32] <MGR> Is
what still up to date?
<MGR> Is
what still up to date?L492[16:41:10] <Muanh> gues
i should go to sleep when i forget to post the actual link ?
<Muanh> gues
i should go to sleep when i forget to post the actual link ?L494[16:42:00] <MGR> Maybe,
but I wouldn't be sure
<MGR> Maybe,
but I wouldn't be sureL495[16:42:06] <MGR> It was
updated for OC 1.3, 3 years ago
<MGR> It was
updated for OC 1.3, 3 years agoL496[16:42:10] <MGR> We're
on 1.7 now
<MGR> We're
on 1.7 nowL497[16:42:34] <Muanh>
yeah, thats why i'm asking
<Muanh>
yeah, thats why i'm askingL498[16:42:59] <gamax92> the api probably
hasn't changed much regarding that
L499[16:43:24] <gamax92> the most I
remember was a package change for item drivers
L500[16:43:52] <gamax92> @Muanh also it
has a MC1.7 branch which gets to a newer api level
L501[16:44:27] <Muanh> ah
nice! ?
<Muanh> ah
nice! ?L502[16:44:29] <Muanh>
thnx!
<Muanh>
thnx!L503[16:54:10] ⇦
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L510[18:40:14] *
Mimiru sighs
L511[18:40:30] <Mimiru> so.. my home
server has started locking up again..
L512[18:43:23] <Mimiru> %octime
L513[18:43:23] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
2017-Oct-26 23:43:23
L514[18:43:27] <Mimiru> \o/
L515[18:46:12] <Mimiru> Oh...
L516[18:46:31] <Mimiru> it powers on now..
but won't give any video/diag beeps..
L517[18:46:40] <Mimiru> AND it won't power
off by holding the power button
L518[19:19:30] <vifino> uuh thats not
good
L519[19:21:20] <Mimiru> got it to post...
but it took almost 4 minutes
L520[19:21:31] <vifino> o_o
L521[19:22:30] <gamax92> I've had
extremely long post times before but they were caused by attempting
to unlock cores
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L530[21:07:25] <AmandaC> gamax92: that's
because you're not supposed to unlock them by using a key on the
pins, silly
L531[21:07:33] <gamax92> a what?
L532[21:07:40] <gamax92> huh where am
I
L533[21:08:04] <AmandaC> Was replying to
this: 20:22:30 <25B100+ gamax92> I've
had extremely long post times before but they were caused by
attempting to unlock cores
L534[21:08:16] <gamax92> ␄25B100+
L535[21:08:57] *
Mimiru sighs
L536[21:08:58] <AmandaC> That should be
colour codes, unless there's a bug something
L537[21:09:04] <Mimiru> swapped ram
booted, and locked.
L538[21:09:19] <Mimiru> within 5 minutes
._.
L539[21:10:17] <gamax92> Mimiru: does the
kernel say anything like a reported cpu failure?
L540[21:11:41] <Mimiru> ._. I have no
idea..
L541[21:11:58] <AmandaC> %choose read book
or meaaahhh
L542[21:11:58] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
meaaahhh
L543[21:12:44] <AmandaC> Mimiru: dmesg,
and I think you can inhibit the Linux kernel tty blanking with
stty
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L545[21:13:40] <AmandaC> (not to imply you
don't know about dmesg, just meant it as additional context to the
other part)
L546[21:14:07] <Mimiru> I know OF
dmesg
L547[21:14:15] <Mimiru> I've used it.. I
don't know a lot about it.
L548[21:14:57] <AmandaC> It's pretty
simple as a concept, basically tail -f for the in-kernel logging
api
L549[21:15:15] <AmandaC> Brb, update
L550[21:17:39] <Mimiru> from what I can
tell... it just *hangs*
L551[21:18:18] <Mimiru> kern.log jumps
from oct 23 to oct 26, when I realized it was hung when someone
tried to use Plex.
L552[21:18:32] <Mimiru> dmesg looks
ok
L553[21:20:54] <AmandaC> Kern.log might
not work as well if the system hangs before afsync
L554[21:21:23] <AmandaC> But if it's
reliably hanging shortly after a bit dmesg may be helpful
L555[21:21:39] <AmandaC> s/a bit/a
boot/
L556[21:21:39] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
But if it's reliably hanging shortly after a boot dmesg may be
helpful
L557[21:22:34] <Mimiru> It seems
annoyingly random.
L558[21:22:41] <Mimiru> it went
*months*...
L559[21:23:09] <Mimiru> I'm running dmesg
-wH
L560[21:23:16] <Mimiru> so.. I'll see if
it catches anything
L561[21:24:41] <AmandaC> If there server
isn't used for local stuff, might be worth leaving dmesg up and
turning off the monitor. As long as it's a looking tty I*think*
that shouldn't require kernel intersectio interaction to shoot onto
the screen from a power off state. (Assuming the monitor stayed
connected)
L562[21:25:16] <AmandaC>
S/looking/Linux/
L563[21:25:37] <AmandaC> (as in, not
x11)
L564[21:26:01] <Mimiru> it's x11... I
could drop out of it though.
L565[21:26:18] <CompanionCube> set up a
network logging thing?
L566[21:26:22] <Mimiru> I use it for x11
stuff, so I just log in to the desktop
L567[21:26:28] <AmandaC> Ah
L568[21:26:33] *
Izaya needs to set up a syslog server
L569[21:26:59] <AmandaC> Yeah, the stuff I
was suggesting was under the assumption it was not under x11
L570[21:27:12] <AmandaC> My bad
L571[21:27:31] <AmandaC> %choose be
responsible or no sleep, all party
L572[21:27:31] <MichiBot> AmandaC: no
sleep, all party
L573[21:27:38] *
AmandaC nods
L574[21:27:52] <CompanionCube> Izaya: I've
always been a lazy bastard and used hosted ones
L575[21:28:15] <Mimiru> k, killed x11,
running tty
L576[21:28:17] <Izaya> CompanionCube: I'm
gonna use one of my qt S10es as a syslog server
L577[21:28:28] <AmandaC> Anyway, heading
off again now, going to lay down and watch YouTube whole I wait for
midnight to tick over
L578[21:28:37] <Izaya> 8+ hrs battery,
160GB of storage, not very powerful
L579[21:28:39] <Mimiru> night AmandaC
thanks
L580[21:28:55] <CompanionCube> maybe use a
filesystem with compression?
L581[21:29:00] <AmandaC> (Mario Odyssey
tonight, of I can stay up that late)
L582[21:29:02] <CompanionCube> logs will
have a sweet ratio for that
L583[21:29:29] <Izaya> of course
L584[21:29:35] <Izaya> btrfs with
compression is my default :P
L585[21:30:54] *
CompanionCube can't be bothered to move his logs into a seperate
dataset
L586[21:47:57] <Izaya> Maybe I should set
up an OpenBSD syslog server :3
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L592[23:36:24] <Izaya> ~w navigation
L593[23:36:24] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:navigation
L594[23:36:55] <Izaya> aw, has a max
value
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