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L5[00:47:14] <Forecaster> What if I don't want to
L6[00:54:48] <gamax92> Then it'll click itself for you
L7[00:55:52] <gamax92> I remembered how to find the first posts of a subreddit, going to go investigate
L8[01:07:39] <gamax92> the elasticsearch pushshift page is a pain to use on mobile
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L12[02:04:37] <tener> so if i kill my only baby dragon..
L13[02:04:51] <tener> how do i go about getting another baby dragon?
L14[02:06:03] <tener> this probably isn't an #oc question, but i don't know the answer anyways and wiki doesn't help
L15[02:40:09] <Syrren> tener: which mod?
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L18[04:39:41] <pizza> hello
L19[04:40:03] *** pizza is now known as Guest22179
L20[04:48:03] <Guest22179> um...im currently using opencomputers 1.6.27 in ftb beyond 1.10
L21[04:48:28] <Guest22179> I need Thread api but openos 1.6.1 does not support it
L22[04:49:49] <Guest22179> i've tried openos updater(pastebin run -f icKy25PF) but somehow it does not work(error)
L23[04:50:22] <Guest22179> can anyone help me about this issue?
L24[04:51:47] <Lizzy> if you provided the error, probably
L25[04:53:07] <Guest22179> I think the possible solutions are:
L26[04:54:20] <Guest22179> 1:update opencomputers mod to version which supports higher version of openos -> I could not find higher than 1.62 for mc 1.10
L27[04:55:39] <Guest22179> 2: use plan9k os. it supports mulitasking-> this os's manual seems under building. I could not find any complete manual of this os. it even seems to not support openos component
L28[04:56:03] <Guest22179> 3:update openos only-> which I tried but failed due to error.
L29[04:56:16] <Guest22179> sorry for english. Im not english native...
L30[04:56:36] <stephan48> can you show a screenshot/copy&paste of the error please?
L31[04:57:07] <Guest22179> thanks. I will try. my game is loading... Its too long. haha too many modes......
L32[04:57:17] <stephan48> nothing new with beyond ;)
L33[04:59:02] <stephan48> looked over the updater code and found 1.7.10 mentioned several times
L34[04:59:13] <stephan48> this is probably an issue
L35[04:59:56] <Guest22179> yeah!! I remember the term '1.7.10' in error message last time I saw this error.
L36[05:07:19] <Guest22179> what the..?
L37[05:07:38] <Guest22179> was that heisenbug?
L38[05:07:47] <Guest22179> it suddenly works..?
L39[05:08:46] <Guest22179> stephan48 did you changed the code?
L40[05:11:17] <Guest22179> anyway, I just updated os and now I have the thread api! thanks!!
L41[05:11:43] <Guest22179> but will this openos 1.6.8 work well is my 'old' opencomputers mod version?
L42[05:11:55] <Guest22179> oh. is->in
L43[05:13:21] <Lizzy> should do
L44[05:13:27] <stephan48> no i did not
L45[05:13:41] <stephan48> not my code anyway ;)
L46[05:14:04] <Guest22179> thanks!
L47[05:15:45] <Guest22179> by the way. this is a pure question. ever it possible to make 'general' api for some block's gui? by simulating gui drawed in screen and player's mouse and keybord.
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L50[05:17:42] <Guest22179> so . for exemple, if you provide appropiate mouse position and keybord input , we can automate tool forge
L51[05:18:04] <Guest22179> without making api for only tinkers construct.
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L56[05:35:53] <ben_mkiv> Guest22179, dont think its that easy
L57[05:36:42] <ben_mkiv> isnt it possible to interact with the inventory of the tool forge?
L58[05:43:21] <Guest22179> as I know, impossble now.
L59[05:50:48] <g> the tool forge does have an inventory
L60[05:50:55] <g> however you couldn't trigger the crafting that way
L61[05:51:24] <g> I wonder if minetweaker integration would help
L62[05:51:33] <g> like, whether one could hook into everything minetweaker supports
L63[05:51:40] <ben_mkiv> and some "mod" who should do it would rather have to access the api as catching the client render functions would be tricky af
L64[05:52:07] <g> impossible, actually
L65[05:52:14] <g> since the needed code doesn't exist on the server
L66[05:53:47] <g> I do think one could write a mod that does this
L67[06:17:35] <ben_mkiv> sure, until mojang decides to push a update which adds crocodiles and makes significant api changes for that :P
L68[06:18:00] <ben_mkiv> then all the ASM hacks break
L69[06:20:09] <g> I mean I'd hope that the TConstruct API doesn't change because mojang added crocodiles :P
L70[06:20:57] <ben_mkiv> oh, i was thinking of the GUI/Client hacks
L71[06:21:21] <g> oh, lol, no pls
L72[06:21:27] <g> that's a terrible idea
L73[06:21:31] <LuMistry> Greetings
L74[06:21:42] <ben_mkiv> talkin about api changes, i shouldnt change the api of my mod daily :P
L75[06:21:47] <g> damn right
L76[06:21:48] <g> :P
L77[06:21:49] <ben_mkiv> mod/fork
L78[06:22:22] <ben_mkiv> anyways, my entitytracker can now filter all the stuff \o/ https://i.imgur.com/s0cEoup.png
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L80[06:24:42] <g> Obligatory "OP! OP! OP!"
L81[06:24:55] <ben_mkiv> it uses energy
L82[06:25:18] <ben_mkiv> and needs kinda bunch of XP to be useable
L83[06:25:37] <ben_mkiv> also, pneumaticraft had something similiar, at the cost of air pressure :P
L84[06:25:50] <g> Haha
L85[06:25:54] <g> I know, I like DE anyway
L86[06:26:11] <MGR> DE as in Draconic Evolution?
L87[06:26:28] <g> yis
L88[06:26:37] <MGR> I like that mod too ?
L89[06:26:44] <ben_mkiv> dont we all? :>
L90[06:27:00] <g> A lot of people hate it lol
L91[06:27:06] <MGR> ^
L92[06:27:48] <g> it is pretty OP on skyblock to be fair
L93[06:28:02] <g> since within a couple hours you can automate production of the ingredients
L94[06:28:46] <ben_mkiv> thats a problem of mystical agriculture :P
L95[06:28:58] <g> no, it's a problem with ex nihilo :P
L96[06:29:23] <g> you have to produce and sieve endstone
L97[06:31:34] <MGR> I remember, back in the day, when Draconic Armor was nigh invincible
L98[06:31:48] <MGR> Then mods came up with items designed specificially to defeat it
L99[06:32:17] <MGR> And then I talked to brandon3055, and he promised to change the mechanics of the armor, which has made it immune to all those methods, but no longer nigh invincible
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L101[06:36:33] <MGR> Tbh, it was pretty awesome
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L103[06:48:47] <MGR> It still sent emails that looked like they were sent through a bit randomizer, stored in encrypted format on a failing hard drive, then decrypted with the wrong key and delivered directly to the user's spam folder, but at least it sent email. Issue resolved, ticket marked complete. --- Quote 1/3
L104[06:58:40] <Izaya> payonel: is the issue with ocvm changing text colours on reboot (apparently) and keeping them after it exits known?
L105[07:02:37] <Izaya> ... or now it just doesn't do anything
L106[07:04:00] <MGR> "The auto-response avalanche converted the entire mail system into an Agent-Smith-like replication factory of away messages, as auto-responders incessantly informed not just every employee, but also each other, about employee status." --- Quote 2/3
L107[07:06:20] <MGR> Meanwhile, the software I'm using for work is quite terrible
L108[07:06:51] <MGR> When I want to copy something, sometimes it'll copy correctly, other times it'll copy some other random thing, and other times it just changes information on said device in a random manner, without copying anything at all
L109[07:18:34] <Izaya> huh, my diffing the buffer to the last buffer is causing the weird display issues
L110[07:18:35] <Izaya> :|
L111[07:18:50] <Izaya> can't really call it fastty if it redraws the whole screen every time though
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L113[07:27:10] <Izaya> scrolling works at least
L114[08:20:38] <S3> I dunno how many times I'vew had to pull out the soldering iron today and fix this damn adaptor
L115[08:21:04] <S3> RF is really sensitive
L116[08:21:15] <S3> but it looks like I finally got it
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L118[08:24:46] <S3> turtle!
L119[08:24:57] <Turtle> o/
L120[08:25:04] <S3> lol I typed that on my other computer first got syntax eror was slike woops
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L122[08:31:55] <Saphire> Flap
L123[08:32:02] <Saphire> So... Anyone here? o..o
L124[08:32:07] <Syrren> \o
L125[08:32:14] * Saphire rubs Temia
L126[08:32:21] * Temia meeps?
L127[08:32:50] <S3> Saphir...
L128[08:32:53] <S3> Saphire: *
L129[08:33:00] <S3> Saphire: we're all here there's /names for a reason! :D
L130[08:33:25] * Saphire tickle-tickles a monstergirl!
L131[08:33:32] <S3> wut
L132[08:33:48] * Temia squeaks and flails!
L133[08:33:56] <S3> ...
L134[08:34:08] * Temia hides under the couch and whinemoos ;^; not fair.
L135[08:34:18] <Saphire> Temia is a minotaur ^^
L136[08:34:21] <Saphire> Cutemoo :D
L137[08:34:42] <S3> MichiBot is an alot
L138[08:34:43] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L139[08:37:04] <S3> I trolled the programming channel the other day
L140[08:37:30] <Temia> Oh?
L141[08:40:07] <S3> yeah I went in to ask for some help with my TRS-80 computer just curious and didnt tell anyone what it was, I basically described the problem and this guy started like thinking I knew nothing about programming, so I started doing my grinface
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L143[08:41:21] <S3> it was only slightly dull so the best part though was when he kept trying to tell me what an error looks like, I said I have a syntax error and he's like WHAts THE ACTUAL ERROR MESSAGE -
L144[08:41:29] <S3> and I just kept saying syntax error
L145[08:41:40] <S3> because on my screen it said: ?SN ERROR
L146[08:42:48] <S3> I did actually get help with my problem, but not in #programming, I knew nobody in there would be able to help
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L148[08:43:15] <S3> hey ben_mkiv
L149[08:43:24] <ben_mkiv> S3!
L150[08:43:50] <S3> I am running out of hard cider
L151[08:43:54] <S3> what am I going to do
L152[08:44:19] <S3> that wasn't directed at you ben_mkiv, just the world in general lol
L153[08:44:39] * Izaya hands S3 some rum
L154[08:44:41] <ben_mkiv> welp, i was already thinking of some solution for that kind of problem
L155[08:45:05] <S3> Izaya: wanna port your os to 6502 lua?
L156[08:45:06] <S3> :D
L157[08:45:27] <Izaya> no guarantees but I can give it a go I guess
L158[08:45:31] <S3> lol
L159[08:45:37] <S3> I was just being funny
L160[08:45:45] <S3> it would be so slow
L161[08:46:21] <S3> WOAH
L162[08:46:25] <Izaya> can the 6809 do memory -> memory movs?
L163[08:46:26] <S3> I have to be very careful
L164[08:47:57] <S3> Izaya: not that I know of, but it does support stack blasting
L165[08:48:01] <S3> which is fun for memory copies
L166[08:49:10] <S3> stack operations on 6809 are quite fast, faster than a load from memory store to memory operation, muc much faster
L167[08:49:40] <S3> so the idea is that you take the 2 stacks, and point one to source and one to destination memory locations
L168[08:49:49] <S3> and you just blast pop and pushes
L169[08:50:58] <S3> this takes less than 4 clock cycles
L170[08:51:18] <S3> and the cool thing about this is that the 6809 uses four clock cycles per clock 360 degrees
L171[08:51:35] <S3> if you have a 1Mhz clock connected to the 6809 it operates at 4Mhz
L172[08:51:55] <S3> using two clock phases + rising edge + falling edge
L173[08:52:18] <S3> so yeah, stack blasting is the way to go for memory copies
L174[08:52:52] <S3> should be O(n)
L175[08:53:12] <S3> Izaya: that answer your wonders?
L176[08:54:11] <Izaya> I guess so, it's an interesting trick
L177[08:55:29] <S3> Izaya: 6809s are actually great in multi CPU systems
L178[08:55:41] <S3> so you could technically program one to be a DMA chip
L179[08:55:46] <S3> with dual port memory
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L182[09:30:05] <S3> oh! I've got it, I can do my dual port memory control in the top level memory decoder
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L184[09:48:19] <S3> hey Reika what's the best way to contact you with some weird dragonapi bonanza?
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L186[10:00:11] <Temia> tfw your frequency scaling randomly starts working after several weaks of it being cranked up to the full 4Ghz
L187[10:00:54] <gamax92> Temia: 4Ghz D:
L188[10:04:20] <Temia> Weeks, even
L189[10:04:30] <S3> weaks!
L190[10:04:38] <Temia> SHUSH >:T
L191[10:04:41] <Temia> I'm still having my coffee
L192[10:04:42] <S3> ok I need to download 1.7.10
L193[10:04:45] <S3> because that'
L194[10:04:49] <S3> that's what gamax92 said
L195[10:04:58] <Temia> It scales up past stock to 4.20GHz when I have FFXIV running in kvm due to turbo mode, but I haven't seen it go below in ages.
L196[10:05:09] <Temia> And the first person who makes a crack about that number gets headbutted
L197[10:05:09] <Temia> >:T
L198[10:05:11] <S3> I hope I get a nice diagram of the Thistle memory map on the github
L199[10:05:55] <gamax92> Uhh, no diagrams, just markdown tables
L200[10:07:26] <gamax92> S3: I thought you were already using 1.7.10
L201[10:08:44] <S3> gamax92: I didn't start though
L202[10:08:48] <S3> I was busy doing other stuff
L203[10:08:58] * gamax92 puts a blueberry in Temia's coffee
L204[10:09:06] <gamax92> fair enough
L205[10:17:52] <S3> where are these said markdown tables?
L206[10:18:01] <gamax92> The wiki
L207[10:18:49] <S3> sometimes I forget that github has a seperate wiki thing
L208[10:19:23] <gamax92> also there's something outdated or some such regarding component interaction so I'll fix that Soon
L209[10:19:30] <gamax92> Soon™
L210[10:22:10] <SubThread> hmm, thinking about a minimal 1.12.2 server with oc. Basically just oc + "ONE general tech mod". EnderIO is not for 1.12 yet, so we have: Immersive E, Thermal E, Actually Additions, RF Tools. What would be the best fit/most lightweight/most popular choice?
L211[10:23:44] <gamax92> OC + Computronics + Tech mod
L212[10:24:05] <SubThread> It's the Tech mod that I'm thinking about
L213[10:24:21] <gamax92> oh
L214[10:24:46] <SubThread> Personally I like them all, and want some input from you guys.
L215[10:28:50] <MGR> Thermal Expansion is pretty good
L216[10:29:05] <MGR> So is IE, but I haven't used the other 2 in 1.13
L217[10:29:08] <MGR> 1.12*
L218[10:29:59] * Temia has a blueberry in her coffee. o.o
L219[10:30:21] <Vexatos> I'd use the only decent tech mod, IC2
L220[10:37:53] <SubThread> So votes on TE and IE from MGR then. @Vexatos I feel that I kinda need to go with RF mods in this case.
L221[10:38:00] <Vexatos> Why
L222[10:38:08] <Vexatos> Is there any reason >_>
L223[10:40:29] <SubThread> I think the other ones are a better fit and find them more fun to play with.
L224[10:40:44] <Vexatos> uh
L225[10:40:50] <SubThread> But I have noted your suggestion
L226[10:40:51] <Vexatos> a better fit to OC?
L227[10:40:58] <Vexatos> Then you haven't played OC ._.
L228[10:41:34] <SubThread> Well, opinions Vex
L229[10:41:58] <Vexatos> You want a good tech mod, but don't want the one actually good tech mod >_>
L230[10:42:16] <Vexatos> The other ones just make the game way too easy anyway >_>
L231[10:43:01] <Forecaster> maybe they want easy :P
L232[10:44:09] <Vexatos> D:
L233[10:44:16] <Vexatos> Unthinkable!
L234[10:49:26] <digital> I haven't spent time with IC2 to know it well. but it is a well coded mod either way
L235[10:50:01] <SubThread> All the mods mentioned are well coded.
L236[10:50:58] <gamax92> hah, OC well coded?
L237[10:51:25] <AmandaC> payonel: I made that ancent completion thing work again, and made it better: https://asciinema.org/a/HRYoxO7b31bGp7IAeS3YA3QGU
L238[10:51:58] <gamax92> AmandaC: that looks pretty good
L239[10:52:00] <SubThread> OC is top of the line
L240[10:52:10] <Syrren> AmandaC: awesome!
L241[10:52:16] <gamax92> SubThread: It's written in Scala :/
L242[10:52:24] <SubThread> top of the line
L243[10:52:45] <Forecaster> this may also be one of those opinion things I've heard about
L244[10:53:13] <gamax92> dual sided floppy disks
L245[10:53:14] <Syrren> @Forecaster: speaking of opinions, what do you think of E:D CQC/Arena?
L246[10:53:59] <digital> lol cqc.
L247[10:53:59] <Forecaster> Syrren: I've not played it much, I tried a while ago but picked a bad time apparently because I couldn't get into any matches
L248[10:54:19] <Syrren> Yeah, apparently that's what people mean when they say "cqc is dead"
L249[10:54:36] <digital> I am hyped and cautious about squadrons though.
L250[10:54:51] <Syrren> feels weird that I can't (ab)use things like target-hostile though
L251[10:55:04] <MGR> @Forecaster This is the Internet. Opinions are facts, and sources don't matter
L252[10:55:21] <Forecaster> @MGR I want a source on that :P
L253[10:55:38] <Syrren> also pondering abusing glovepie or similar to automatically increase turning performance (by engaging lateral thrusters)
L254[10:55:48] <Syrren> (because 6dof with M+KB is pain)
L255[10:55:59] <MGR> @Forecaster sure
L256[10:56:17] <Forecaster> (I actually don't)
L257[10:56:29] <digital> Syrren: Thats why I play with a hotas ?
L258[10:56:34] <Syrren> @digital which one?
L259[10:56:48] <digital> saitek x56
L260[10:56:59] <Forecaster> I play with a controller right now
L261[10:57:08] <Forecaster> because I can't be bothered to set the hotas up
L262[10:57:10] <Syrren> isn't that one of those QC = good luck ones?
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L264[10:57:26] <digital> vocal minority.
L265[10:57:38] <digital> as far I can tell their qc isn't bad.
L266[10:57:40] <Vexatos> SubThread, OC is so well-coded that noone knows how it works, its beyond human comprehension
L267[10:57:40] <Syrren> right, so my usual division factor isn't big enough then :P
L268[10:57:51] <Syrren> I've been researching hotas on-and-off for a while now
L269[10:58:01] <MGR> @Forecaster I wasn't going to give you one
L270[10:58:04] <Forecaster> saitek makes good stuff
L271[10:58:08] <MGR> thiis is the Internet
L272[10:58:12] <Syrren> would have purchased already probably but VKB MCG isn't out yet
L273[10:58:19] <Syrren> (go hard or go home approach)
L274[10:58:40] <Syrren> I was thinking analog hats = 6dof goodness
L275[10:58:58] <digital> the x56 had alot of the features I wanted so I got it.
L276[10:58:58] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L277[10:59:24] <Syrren> Hmmm... 2nd mouse -> freepie -> fake joystick maybe
L278[10:59:25] <Forecaster> I wish my throttle would work properly
L279[10:59:31] <gamax92> S3: did you get it working
L280[10:59:52] <digital> Syrren: then again I do play with VA and a custom plugin anyways.
L281[10:59:57] <Syrren> >voice attack
L282[10:59:58] <Syrren> ah.
L283[11:00:05] <Forecaster> I use it as well
L284[11:00:08] <Syrren> 95% of my current opportunities to play games are at night.
L285[11:00:13] <Syrren> so voice-based stuff is a no-go
L286[11:00:13] <Forecaster> good complement when you're using a controller :P
L287[11:00:16] <Forecaster> because limited buttons
L288[11:00:34] <gamax92> solution
L289[11:00:35] <digital> I use it mostly for the panel switching.
L290[11:00:38] <gamax92> use a second controller
L291[11:00:44] <gamax92> control it with your feet or something
L292[11:00:48] <Syrren> lol
L293[11:00:58] <Forecaster> I think I'll stick with voice control...
L294[11:01:01] <Syrren> FYI, E:D supports multiple key/button combinations
L295[11:01:13] <Syrren> for example, I use left-alt + wasd for panels
L296[11:01:19] <Syrren> s/panels/power/
L297[11:01:31] <Syrren> left-shift + wasd for panels
L298[11:01:42] <Forecaster> I have voice activated presets for power
L299[11:01:42] <Syrren> MichiBot: wake up
L300[11:02:17] <digital> getting coorded buttons on the x56 is hard.
L301[11:02:35] <digital> so I just decide to make a plugin to help me automate my panels.
L302[11:03:13] <gamax92> AmandaC: oh, that was ocvm
L303[11:05:30] <digital> I like how we just had a conversation that went from E:D to hardware to software in discord chat about a minecraft mod.....
L304[11:06:38] <Vexatos> wait
L305[11:06:42] <Vexatos> this is about a minecraft mod?
L306[11:06:43] <Vexatos> wait
L307[11:06:45] <Vexatos> this is discord chat?
L308[11:06:50] <gamax92> no this is Online Community
L309[11:07:05] <gamax92> get off the phone line
L310[11:07:12] <digital> if want to get technical discord is just an irc client ?
L311[11:07:23] <gamax92> uhh
L312[11:07:29] <gamax92> no, no it's not :P
L313[11:07:31] <Vexatos> What is a discord ._.
L314[11:07:36] <S3> Tahg:
L315[11:07:36] <Vexatos> I am using an IRC client ,_,
L316[11:07:38] <S3> oops
L317[11:07:43] <S3> gamax92: I got the hard cider working
L318[11:07:45] <S3> if thats what you mean
L319[11:07:46] <S3> lol
L320[11:07:54] <S3> im still reading the wiki
L321[11:08:02] <gamax92> I'll just assume that means you got FORTH fully ported and working
L322[11:08:21] <S3> no I've been working on submitting issue tickets and stuff
L323[11:08:24] <gamax92> D:
L324[11:08:25] <gamax92> no
L325[11:08:42] <Forecaster> I'd be using an ssh client
L326[11:08:50] <Forecaster> if I was connected to irc right now :P
L327[11:09:06] <S3> gamax92: so about this input buffer addr
L328[11:09:07] <digital> I always forgot that ssh and irc are not the same thing D:
L329[11:09:10] <S3> does that fire an IRQ?
L330[11:09:24] <Vexatos> @Forecaster what about telnet D:
L331[11:09:40] <S3> ok fine
L332[11:09:41] <S3> I read it does
L333[11:09:44] <digital> don't forget dail-up ?
L334[11:09:48] <S3> I was just not reading
L335[11:09:52] <Forecaster> people use telnet?
L336[11:09:58] <gamax92> :)
L337[11:10:18] <gamax92> Vexatos: the protocol is still IRC
L338[11:10:30] <Vexatos> Yes yes
L339[11:10:54] <S3> forecaster I connect to irc via netcat all the time
L340[11:11:08] <gamax92> for some reason (and or I changed this in the past) emu65el02 booted up in correct 6502 stack mode instead of rpc8's broken mode
L341[11:11:45] <gamax92> it ended up making MineOS spit out an alternating pattern of garbage on the screen and memory
L342[11:12:11] <S3> WAT
L343[11:12:56] <gamax92> I'll screenshot for you
L344[11:13:11] <S3> I've seen this happen but that's hilarious
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L347[11:14:36] <gamax92> S3: https://i.imgur.com/xy6w7RA.png
L348[11:14:59] <S3> yeah
L349[11:15:09] <S3> see this is what I refer to as "easting memory"
L350[11:15:12] <S3> om nom nom
L351[11:15:22] <gamax92> yeasting memory
L352[11:16:52] <S3> ok gotta stop getting distracted here
L353[11:18:48] <Forecaster> S3 look! something shiny!
L354[11:18:56] <S3> STAHP!
L355[11:18:58] <S3> lol
L356[11:20:16] <digital> may your code be full of bugs MWAHAHAHA
L357[11:20:32] <Forecaster> that's not as much of a curse as a certainty
L358[11:21:06] <digital> better yet. may it work for only you and no one else
L359[11:21:08] <S3> shit I made a survival world
L360[11:21:22] <Forecaster> now you have to survive!
L361[11:21:24] <gamax92> porting FORTH while fighting for your life
L362[11:21:43] <digital> open to lan, enable cheats, set your gamemode
L363[11:21:51] <digital> viola
L364[11:21:51] <S3> lol
L365[11:21:55] <S3> open to lan? why?
L366[11:21:56] <Temia> WHAT HUH
L367[11:21:56] <Temia> Oh.
L368[11:22:01] <gamax92> hey Temia
L369[11:22:09] <Temia> It's voila, for future reference
L370[11:22:23] <S3> no it's viola if you play music
L371[11:22:26] <S3> :D
L372[11:22:28] <digital> open to lan is the only way to enable cheats once a world has been created. (other than manually editing the world file)
L373[11:22:28] <Temia> And I need to set my Viola highlight for Darkmyst and maybe Clever Pun, obviously.
L374[11:22:46] <S3> Temia: WAT!
L375[11:22:52] <S3> my mud client is called Darkmist, wut
L376[11:22:55] <digital> english is hard...
L377[11:23:02] <Temia> Darkmyst is an IRC network. <_<
L378[11:23:07] <S3> neat
L379[11:23:10] <Temia> Voila is french though
L380[11:23:18] <Temia> :v
L381[11:23:24] <gamax92> here's how to summon a minotaur
L382[11:23:29] <gamax92> Look, fairies!
L383[11:23:30] <digital> english takes words from other langauges.
L384[11:23:33] <Temia> WHAT WHERE
L385[11:23:35] * Temia looks around
L386[11:23:45] <gamax92> oh I'm sorry it was snow instead
L387[11:23:48] <gamax92> my bad
L388[11:23:49] <S3> almost all languages do that digital
L389[11:24:00] <Temia> Yes it does, it ambushes other languages in back alleys, mugs them for vocabulary and roots around in their pockets for leftover syntax
L390[11:24:02] <S3> ok let's try again
L391[11:24:07] <Temia> Aw. :<
L392[11:24:17] <digital> most atleast modify the spelling.
L393[11:25:04] <Forecaster> so if I steal a phone and put a sticker on it's it's okay? :P
L394[11:25:51] <gamax92> https://i.imgur.com/zJ62Yac.png
L395[11:26:01] <digital> none of this detracts from my original statement..... ENGLISH IS HARD
L396[11:26:22] <Temia> English is the dark souls of lang--*dragged out back and beaten*
L397[11:26:33] <Forecaster> eh, like most things it just takes practice :P
L398[11:27:52] <gamax92> something is missing
L399[11:28:34] <SubThread> @Vexatos, version OpenComputers-MC1.12.1-1.7.0.18.jar, robot.swing() breaks block but doesn't pick it up.
L400[11:28:53] <digital> Temia: You should have dodge rolled ?
L401[11:28:57] <Forecaster> does it have an inventory?
L402[11:29:16] <Temia> My axe puts me into medium encumbrance on its own :<
L403[11:29:20] <SubThread> yes Forecaster
L404[11:29:38] <gamax92> Temia: axe too heavy?
L405[11:29:46] <SubThread> returns: true "block"
L406[11:30:12] * Temia holds up a labrys twice her size. "It is, but it's so cute!" :c
L407[11:30:30] <gamax92> Temia is tiny
L408[11:31:02] <Forecaster> tiny minotaur?=
L409[11:31:21] <Forecaster> ignore the equal sign! ignore it!
L410[11:31:23] * Temia nodnods. c:
L411[11:31:38] <digital> you the set sign ?
L412[11:32:19] <Vexatos> SubThread, I have no idea >_>
L413[11:33:29] <digital> I english good.
L414[11:41:22] <SubThread> Should I post it on the forums Vexatos? I don't have a git account.
L415[11:41:37] <Vexatos> the forum isn't for bug reports >_>
L416[11:42:25] <AmandaC> gamax92: I'm curious what you thought it was, that it being in ocvm was a surprise?
L417[11:43:15] <AmandaC> Also, now it doesn't freak the fuck out if the prompt is too near the bottom of the screen! \o/
L418[11:44:04] <gamax92> AmandaC: I noticed the font being different
L419[11:44:10] <AmandaC> gamax92: ah
L420[11:44:12] <gamax92> but not right away
L421[11:44:37] <AmandaC> it's also using asciicinima, which I have no idea how it renders it, since it just captures the std in/out and records it
L422[11:47:36] <S3> phew
L423[11:47:43] <S3> so my creative house is built
L424[11:47:49] <S3> can now build a thistle box
L425[11:48:08] <S3> and also gamax92 I opened up a silly request to support read / write switches on all floppy disks including loot ones
L426[11:49:20] <Forecaster> @digital no no, "I English best!", there
L427[11:49:28] <gamax92> S3: why though
L428[11:49:36] <S3> for fun
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L431[12:01:51] <SubThread> hmm, I think I messed up that issue report on github. It posted it while I was editing it. Sorry for that.
L432[12:04:44] <S3> WOOPSIES
L433[12:04:55] <S3> gamax92: java.lang.indexoutofboundsexception
L434[12:04:59] <S3> :D
L435[12:05:05] <gamax92> why
L436[12:05:14] <gamax92> You gotta give me more info than that
L437[12:05:16] <S3> I was trying to break it
L438[12:06:40] <S3> so like, you said it's loaded at $200 right?
L439[12:08:05] <MGR> S3, your DragonAPI issue received a response
L440[12:08:12] <S3> oh cool
L441[12:10:05] <0xc0000000> is it possible to create a custom IRC server?
L442[12:10:25] <Forecaster> nah
L443[12:10:36] <0xc0000000> noooooooooooooo
L444[12:10:37] <Forecaster> it requires an arcane contract
L445[12:10:42] <Forecaster> with an ancient demon
L446[12:10:47] <0xc0000000> rip
L447[12:11:13] <MGR> So, just make a request to Gavle? ?
L448[12:11:40] <0xc0000000> i did the undescribable: i joined PLZ
L449[12:11:49] <MGR> What is PLZ?
L450[12:11:57] <0xc0000000> bit got confused with the syntax there http://tinyurl.com/yal9jkp7
L451[12:12:18] <0xc0000000> holy cow that thing want's me to expose my ISP to everyone
L452[12:12:47] <Forecaster> your ISP?
L453[12:12:53] <0xc0000000> yes
L454[12:13:17] <0xc0000000> its a "sooper secret thing"(i have no idea why im doing this. end me)
L455[12:13:19] <MGR> What?
L456[12:13:31] <0xc0000000> internet service provider
L457[12:13:35] <gamax92> S3: soo ... stack trace any time soon?
L458[12:14:07] <MGR> I know what an ISP is, I don't understand what PLZ is, or how it "wants me to expose my ISP to everyone"
L459[12:14:24] <Forecaster> who cares what your ISP is
L460[12:14:50] <MGR> Also, ^
L461[12:16:42] <gamax92> my ISP is comcrap
L462[12:17:10] <Forecaster> mine is fastbit
L463[12:17:14] <0xc0000000> plz is a
L464[12:17:16] <0xc0000000> idk
L465[12:17:25] <0xc0000000> i just typed /join PLZ on oc irc
L466[12:17:28] <MGR> gamax92, same ?
L467[12:17:46] <MGR> And why did you join a random thing on the IRC client?
L468[12:24:37] <S3> gamax92: hm. so if I put 61 in $e003 do you know what happens?
L469[12:24:40] <S3> I get 0x255 printed
L470[12:24:52] <S3> well no
L471[12:25:06] <S3> I mean it "looks" like 0x255 in non unicode ascii urxvt terminal session
L472[12:25:11] <S3> the y with the two dots
L473[12:26:32] <gamax92> S3: I do know why but I need a stack trace first before I'll tell you
L474[12:27:54] <S3> orly
L475[12:28:05] <S3> I'm not getting an index out of bounds error anymore
L476[12:28:15] <S3> and it was just saying that on the OC computeer itself
L477[12:28:17] <gamax92> why did you not save the orignal stack trace
L478[12:28:22] <gamax92> for fucks sake S3
L479[12:28:25] <S3> the game didn't crashh
L480[12:28:30] <gamax92> who fucking cares
L481[12:28:42] <AmandaC> It means there's aproblem with the emulation, you dope
L482[12:28:59] <gamax92> ugh
L483[12:29:08] <S3> fine
L484[12:30:22] <S3> don't yell at me too much
L485[12:30:38] <Forecaster> to be fair Dr Who cares a lot
L486[12:30:46] <S3> I've only had like .. I forget how much hard cider now
L487[12:30:58] <MGR> @Forecaster No, Clara is his carer. She cares so he doesn't have to
L488[12:31:12] <MGR> His name is also just "The Doctor", not "Dr Who"
L489[12:31:21] <S3> https://hastebin.com/elemayeyud.rb
L490[12:31:22] <S3> gamax92: ^
L491[12:31:32] <gamax92> thanks m8
L492[12:31:35] <S3> here's my test code
L493[12:31:39] <S3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/SkTa6JBn/
L494[12:31:47] <S3> which may be totally wrong because I've been drinking but I care not
L495[12:31:55] <gamax92> what gpu/screen you using
L496[12:31:55] <S3> looks fine to me
L497[12:32:05] <S3> tier 2 gpu, tier 2 screen
L498[12:32:44] <S3> I can see already I put the loop lavel one instruction early
L499[12:32:46] <S3> lol
L500[12:34:21] <S3> gamax92: crashes really fast on a tier 1 graphics + tier 1 screen
L501[12:41:42] <gamax92> "Yet no part of the brain exists in isolation from the rest. It is all one giant connected system. Like my headphone cable (seriously, where is the end of this knot?)."
L502[12:41:55] <S3> AmandaC: how do you trim a kittys nails when they keep waking up and staring at you when you poke their paws?
L503[12:42:02] <S3> you seem to be an expert on cats
L504[12:42:28] <AmandaC> S3: Get a scratching post, they'll trim them naturally
L505[12:42:32] <S3> the other kitty loves getting his nails done
L506[12:42:48] <S3> oh that sright I should spray our post with catnip spray or something to encourage them to use it
L507[12:43:36] <S3> our last cat would trim her own nails
L508[12:43:37] <S3> it was nice
L509[12:45:12] <gamax92> alright, what happens in the next 4 minutes determines if I Thistle or not
L510[12:45:18] <gamax92> 3 minutes
L511[12:45:37] <GreaseMonkey> [06:43:24] <S3> which may be totally wrong because I've been drinking but I care not
L512[12:45:42] <gamax92> hey GreaseMonkey
L513[12:45:43] <GreaseMonkey> ^ first LDA needs to be #61 not 61
L514[12:45:50] <GreaseMonkey> sup, i'm about to dash though
L515[12:45:55] <gamax92> oh
L516[12:46:07] <gamax92> yeah that needs a #
L517[12:46:08] <GreaseMonkey> wait shit actually the first LDA needs to be #65 not #61 and definitely not 61
L518[12:46:23] <S3> GreaseMonkey: ahahahaha
L519[12:46:28] <S3> see wat I mean
L520[12:46:32] <GreaseMonkey> anyhow cya guys
L521[12:46:55] <S3> I've been spending too much time with other assemblers
L522[12:47:49] <gamax92> S3: does your assembler take character literals cause, would just do that instead
L523[12:49:32] <S3> yes it does. it's just #'A'
L524[12:50:20] <S3> so, I don't know what's really going on, but am I right that every time you put a char in $e003 it appends to some graphics card memory buffer and eventually just tries to write beyond it?
L525[12:51:03] <S3> it does print A with #'A'
L526[12:51:36] <S3> also A is 65 not 61
L527[12:52:28] <gamax92> the screen is a big array of memory so, I suppose?
L528[12:52:45] <S3> might want to try a circular buffer
L529[12:53:04] <gamax92> a what
L530[12:53:05] <gamax92> why
L531[12:53:35] <S3> okay maybe it's dangerous to call it a circular buffer
L532[12:53:55] <S3> but you could jusyt have it wrap around to the beginning of screen memory, kind of like how textures will wrap around on an NES PPU
L533[12:54:17] <gamax92> that's not the intended behaviour
L534[12:54:25] <S3> yeah probably not for vt100
L535[12:54:33] <gamax92> it should automatically scroll
L536[12:56:21] <S3> should be discarding the old data though
L537[12:58:12] <S3> gamax92: the point of a circular buffer is so that for example in the case of a scrolling vt100 emulator you don't need to shift index elements around in order to shift the window around
L538[12:58:24] <S3> but there are probably oc limitations I am unaware of
L539[12:58:35] <AmandaC> the vt100 stuff is just a emulation wrapper around raw gpu calls
L540[12:58:41] <Inari> https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22309015_1184038791740808_5255267261877565326_n.jpg?oh=52ec6bd597c81608f8313b6737b0d321&oe=5A750A9A
L541[12:58:53] <S3> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_buffer
L542[12:59:04] <S3> I see
L543[12:59:30] <gamax92> That's cool and all but yeah it just a wrapper around the gpu
L544[13:00:08] <AmandaC> and the gpu is just a wrapper around a 2d array of chars + fg/bg colours
L545[13:00:30] <S3> that isn't unrealistic from real machines usually
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L547[13:11:24] <MGR> "Icing on the cake is she kept selecting the wrong options without telling me what she was doing, so she tripped bitlocker and locked the drive on top of corrupting it." --- Quote 3/3
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L549[13:11:46] <Inari> Temia / payonel / AmandaC: https://imgur.com/gallery/rlVuL
L550[13:11:50] <S3> gamax92: I'm assuming CR and LF are required seperately?
L551[13:13:28] <gamax92> CR is ignored
L552[13:13:34] <S3> ok.
L553[13:14:16] <gamax92> which I could fix
L554[13:14:19] <S3> meh
L555[13:14:37] <S3> so the nice thing is he's calling routines from these other ones
L556[13:14:42] <S3> so I could make new routines
L557[13:14:48] <S3> but since thistle makes it so easy, why bother
L558[13:14:54] <S3> it will slow it down
L559[13:15:06] <S3> in fig forth that iss
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L561[13:15:30] <gamax92> I'll fix it that CR returns the cursor back to the beginning of the screen but not the line down
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L564[13:15:45] <gamax92> and then LF will just move the line down
L565[13:16:06] <S3> was that the way the vt100 did it?
L566[13:16:11] <S3> I think so..
L567[13:16:13] <gamax92> probably not
L568[13:16:26] <S3> I don't remember vt100 including cr with lf
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L570[13:16:35] <S3> but then again it was a long time ago
L571[13:17:18] <gamax92> all I know is that I opened xterm, spat out a carriage return, and it put it to the beginning of the line
L572[13:17:46] <S3> yeah that's because that's how *nix vsprintf works
L573[13:17:48] <S3> or whatever
L574[13:17:55] <S3> it adds the \r for you
L575[13:18:26] <S3> example in linux kernel printf.c in the x86 boot code
L576[13:19:13] <gamax92> S3: don't worry there's documentation on this
L577[13:20:57] <S3> oh why fig forth
L578[13:21:02] <S3> why you no print
L579[13:21:53] <gamax92> hmm well, there's a escape sequence of ESC[20h and ESC[20l that dictates how the terminal behaves when it gets a linefeed
L580[13:22:23] <S3> watr
L581[13:22:32] <S3> some ansi stuff eh
L582[13:23:19] <S3> OH DUH
L583[13:23:22] <S3> I need to find the origin
L584[13:23:53] <S3> nope orig is $0200
L585[13:24:39] <gamax92> btw there are some config options in thistle that enable logging what the CPU is doing, if you'd like to read walls of opcode traces
L586[13:24:47] <S3> oh neat
L587[13:25:09] <gamax92> highly recommend enabling the option that slows the processor down or else it lags
L588[13:25:17] <S3> heheh
L589[13:25:23] <S3> yeah I noticed how frigging fast it is
L590[13:25:48] <S3> my 1Mhz 6809 with basic takes about 1 second per line of hex code to print
L591[13:25:50] <S3> :D
L592[13:26:00] <S3> because basic is just that slow
L593[13:26:14] <gamax92> I'm, not sure what the speed is.
L594[13:26:25] <S3> TIBX =$0100 ; terminal input buffer of 84 bytes.
L595[13:26:27] <S3> WUT
L596[13:26:40] <S3> that's.. where the stack usually is...
L597[13:27:04] <S3> I must investigate, they must be using the TIB as a stack which is EPIC!
L598[13:27:30] <gamax92> yeah I mentioned that earlier, seems odd
L599[13:28:52] <S3> I see. the top of the data stack is in the ZP
L600[13:29:04] <S3> it's very tiny too
L601[13:29:21] <S3> (if it counts down)
L602[13:30:20] <SubThread> I think I "solved" my own github issue.
L603[13:31:06] <S3> oh I didnt see BOS there
L604[13:39:33] <gamax92> S3: https://www.pcjs.org/blog/2016/08/03/
L605[13:40:44] <S3> neat
L606[13:40:56] <gamax92> I just wish the screen wasn't so huge
L607[13:40:58] <S3> gamax92: don't slow down your cycles per tick to 500
L608[13:41:03] <S3> it takes FOREVER to load fig forth
L609[13:41:05] <S3> like 5 mins
L610[13:41:29] <gamax92> man even C++ booted faster than that
L611[13:41:34] <S3> so I see what' going on it's crashing due to memory map. I need to carefully read the memory map on thios
L612[13:41:41] <S3> it's writing to components and shit everywhere
L613[13:42:05] <S3> gamax92: most of it was waiting for the floppy for some reason
L614[13:42:11] <S3> the time thing
L615[13:47:12] <AmandaC> ~w eeprom
L616[13:47:12] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:eeprom
L617[13:49:06] <AmandaC> Hrm, guesss I gotta boot into MC
L618[13:49:26] <S3> if I can't get this thing to start working
L619[13:49:33] <S3> I think I will just write my own forth because it's so easy
L620[13:50:12] <gamax92> oh, the screen is so big due to broken css
L621[13:50:26] <S3> gamax92: I noticed that when I store A into $E003 and it prints an A to the screen, there's like 50,000 instructions that show up after that and before my next instruction happens
L622[13:50:32] <S3> what's going on there?
L623[13:50:49] <gamax92> zero idea what you're talking about and haven ever observed that before
L624[13:51:09] <S3> yeah. I wish I could like just past eit but theres so much going on that I couldnt' catch it
L625[13:51:25] <S3> it was doing a lot of eeprom reads
L626[13:51:46] <Izaya> Does stuff still use 32-bit unix time?
L627[13:52:28] <S3> in oc? not sure, because we haven't reached the need for 64 bit time yet
L628[13:52:36] <Izaya> in general
L629[13:52:39] <S3> so the number appears 32 bit fo rme
L630[13:53:07] <S3> I would assume any machine that has a 32 bit cpu and doesn't have a double length epoch time setup will use 32 bit epoch
L631[13:53:17] <Izaya> so...
L632[13:53:35] <Izaya> cheap ARM boxes (android, etc.) and old x86 boxes
L633[14:11:46] <S3> getting older can be a pain in the butt
L634[14:11:57] <Forecaster> literally?
L635[14:13:02] <Michiyo> Yep.
L636[14:13:22] <AmandaC> woo, helpful CLI for flashing eeproms from my home base
L637[14:14:34] <AmandaC> https://amandac.keybase.pub/screenshots/Screenshot%20from%202017-10-10%2015-26-01.png
L638[14:14:52] <AmandaC> reads the label, and default eeprom data segment from the file it's passed
L639[14:16:00] <AmandaC> s/home base/home base filestore/
L640[14:16:11] <S3> apparently one of my old friends died yesterday. He's been dealing with some problems for a while and got so tired of being hooked up to IV tubes and on a bed for so long that he just took em off and walked out
L641[14:16:48] <Forecaster> other symptoms include, but are not limited to, spontainiously appearing rocking chairs, yelling about lawns/at clouds, complaining about kids these days
L642[14:26:54] <Izaya> asie: unrelated: https://my.mixtape.moe/wuxdwu.jpg
L643[14:31:33] <scj643> Mojang is stingy with any server software that isn't Java edition
L644[14:32:22] <Izaya> why would they let you host servers for pocket edition?
L645[14:32:33] <Izaya> they can charge for that like they do the DLC
L646[14:32:43] <scj643> Hell console edition can't connect to any 3rd party servers that aren't approved
L647[14:33:20] <scj643> With the bedrock version I'm actually enjoying playing the windows 10 version
L648[14:33:34] <scj643> Less resource intensive
L649[14:33:47] <scj643> I can play on the go
L650[14:34:19] <Izaya> if it's not the java version you might as well just play minetest
L651[14:34:31] <scj643> :P
L652[14:34:47] <Izaya> that has mods and allows arbitrary servers
L653[14:34:49] <scj643> I have the 3DS edition too
L654[14:35:03] <scj643> (didn't pay for it(
L655[14:35:30] <scj643> Works pretty well for a freaking 3Ds
L656[14:36:30] <scj643> Also the paid community stuff in pocket editions kinda pisses me off
L657[14:36:44] <scj643> Stuff we used to be able to get for free we can't anymore
L658[14:38:35] <Izaya> gotta love MS
L659[14:38:42] <scj643> Ikr
L660[14:39:07] <scj643> Gotta love Apple too with that logic :P
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L662[15:06:51] <S3> gamax92: you know what
L663[15:06:54] <S3> fig forth is dumb
L664[15:06:56] <S3> I'm writing one
L665[15:09:57] <AmandaC> Woo. I managed to make capslock-as-control work right under Minecraft (and presumably other games)
L666[15:10:48] <AmandaC> Had to twist some dials in the gnome-tweaks program a different way
L667[15:22:40] <gamax92> S3: okay
L668[15:28:27] <S3> trying to think of a way I can place the parameter stack, the data stack, AND the TIB in the system stack
L669[15:29:06] <S3> I could do 32 bytes for return and parameter
L670[15:29:09] <gamax92> you can make a software stack if you'd like though
L671[15:29:12] <S3> that gives you 16 per
L672[15:29:19] <S3> I can do that too
L673[15:29:23] <S3> I can store the stuff in the zp
L674[15:29:29] <S3> the stacks don't need to be very big
L675[15:29:57] <S3> forth programs don't go that deep idealistically
L676[15:37:54] <S3> interesting take from something I randomly found here; http://www.bradrodriguez.com/papers/moving1.htm
L677[15:38:04] <S3> "In the 6502, the hardware stack is confined to page one of RAM (addresses 01xxh) by the design of the CPU. The 8-bit stack pointer can be used for the Return Stack. The Parameter Stack is kept in page zero of RAM, which can be indirectly accessed by the 8-bit index register X. (Question for the advanced student: why use the 6502's X, and not Y? Hint: look at the addressing modes available.) "
L678[15:38:09] <S3> this is not a bad idea
L679[15:38:26] <S3> by storing the parameter stack in the ZP I can do ZP indexing
L680[15:38:45] <S3> I can use some of the very low memory addresses in ZP for system registers but
L681[15:39:02] <gamax92> S3: reminder that you also have the 65C02 extensions
L682[15:39:13] <S3> it'l make return and parameter -almost- 256 bytes
L683[15:39:37] <S3> fortunately, parameter stack should NEVER be that l;arge
L684[15:39:46] <S3> so I can store the TIB in the ZP too
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L686[15:48:26] <AmandaC> \o/
L687[15:52:50] <S3> AmandaC: leavin or comin?
L688[15:54:48] <Inari> https://imgur.com/gallery/HNq1u +1
L689[15:56:33] <S3> lol
L690[16:05:00] <infina> S3: hot water heater works on a shower scale. Now I have to fine tune the temperature on it.
L691[16:13:39] <Forecaster> Dammit, I forgot I didn't have an evil genius episode for tomorrow...
L692[16:13:46] <Forecaster> :|
L693[16:24:33] * AmandaC now has wifi-based geofencing for her tablet, when she gets far enough away from the base where the microcontroller pingin out it's beacon isn't able to be heard, it'll switch to using the tablet's built-in linked card instead
L694[16:29:40] <AmandaC> S3: The groundwork of that working is what made me \o/ earlier ^ (beacon tracking)
L695[16:30:11] <S3> oh cool
L696[16:30:33] <S3> infina: is it able to get hot enough?
L697[16:31:24] <infina> S3: yep. I only have it at 120. May do 125.
L698[16:31:42] <gamax92> S3: what forth standard are you targeting btw
L699[16:31:47] <gamax92> since, fig forth is fairly old
L700[16:32:55] <gamax92> old, but works well for a 6502
L701[16:33:23] <S3> mostly just the stuff from the starting forth book
L702[16:33:25] <S3> so it's easy for people
L703[16:33:29] <S3> maybe some extra ans stuff
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L720[17:22:43] <gamax92> S3: I found a different forth for the 6502 but it's (source code?) is entirely unusable
L721[17:22:55] <gamax92> it has no lines and a ton of spaces
L722[17:27:29] <S3> gamax92: I looked at a few
L723[17:27:31] <S3> such as eforth
L724[17:27:53] <S3> it's sad there isn't much for a really simple one, even if eforth is simple
L725[17:29:00] <S3> the problem with eforth is that it's 8 bit it looks
L726[17:29:55] <S3> forth should really be 16 bit
L727[17:29:59] <S3> minimum
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L729[17:30:52] <gamax92> oh, this one is in german
L730[17:30:58] <S3> heh
L731[17:31:10] <Nova> Anybody able to help me out with an issue I'm having and can't seem to find anything online :(
L732[17:31:11] <S3> time to have vifino port it
L733[17:31:25] <S3> Nova: why do you ask to ask?
L734[17:31:30] <S3> just ask
L735[17:32:05] <Nova> I'm having an issue getting oppm to work because every time I install it, it says that it has already been installed but when I go to use it, it says it isn't installed.
L736[17:33:01] <Nova> It's sending me in a constantly loop and I've tried using new hard drives, new floppy's and everything but it won't let me use OPPM
L737[17:33:07] <Nova> constant loop*
L738[17:33:16] <AmandaC> Nova: how are you installing it?
L739[17:34:02] <Nova> It tells me to do type install oppm and then I select the hard drive to save it to, but when I do that it finishes by saying "Package has already been installed"
L740[17:34:20] <AmandaC> Are you sure you're selecting the right hard drive?
L741[17:34:46] <Nova> Yeah I've double checked and used different systems just to double check :(
L742[17:35:18] <AmandaC> what mc/oc version?
L743[17:35:19] <gamax92> Nova: does /etc/opdata.svd exist?
L744[17:35:39] <Nova> 1.10.2
L745[17:37:06] <Nova> Nope
L746[17:37:36] <AmandaC> Nova: what version of OC?
L747[17:38:16] <Nova> 1.6.2.7, sorry
L748[17:41:00] <Nova> I found a file called oppm.lua in my hard drive's bin/usr
L749[17:41:23] <Nova> But the issue is whenever I try to do oppm it just tells me it isn't installed.
L750[17:41:38] <vifino> S3: have you done anything with the ZPU yet?
L751[17:42:06] <vifino> also god dammit, the korean ime keeps switching to hangul when i don't want it to.
L752[17:42:22] <Nova> Not to sound stupid but what's the ZPU? Dx
L753[17:42:23] <AmandaC> Nova: so you're saying there's a /usr/bin/oppm.lua?
L754[17:42:50] <vifino> Nova: A CPU architecture.
L755[17:43:36] <AmandaC> Nova: if that exists, try renaming it or removing it then running `install oppm` again
L756[17:43:39] <Nova> Sorry the path goes /mnt/335/usr/bin/oppm.lua
L757[17:43:51] <gamax92> oh, does /mnt/335/etc/opdata.svd exist then?
L758[17:44:37] <Nova> Nope, just the oppm.lua
L759[17:44:42] <gamax92> odd :/
L760[17:45:21] <Nova> REinstalling it now just to check, Amanda.
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L762[17:47:49] <Nova> Yeah it still tells me that it's already installed. Looked at my other hard drive too and there is nothing to do with oppm on it.
L763[17:47:53] <S3> vifino: not too much. I have a lot of crap to do. in fact, school starts again tomorrow so this forth porting stuff will have to be put on a shelf too
L764[17:48:02] <S3> because I got tons of work
L765[17:48:11] <S3> and it's fun to procrastinate
L766[17:48:23] <AmandaC> I just tried with a fresh openos install, and it worked fine
L767[17:48:39] <S3> gotta write a 6 page paper by midnight tomorrow
L768[17:48:44] <S3> on forth XD
L769[17:48:59] <S3> by the end of the semester it's going to be like 50 pages ~
L770[17:49:03] <S3> we've been told
L771[17:49:26] <S3> I've already done the first section which is like 4 - 5 pages
L772[17:49:33] <S3> but this is the second section
L773[17:49:54] <Nova> What components did you have Amanda? Doubt I've done any of those wrong because they're tier 3 apart from my data card which is tier 2
L774[17:51:08] <AmandaC> Nova: a bunch, but the only one that should matter is an internet card
L775[17:53:23] <Nova> Could there potentially be any issue somewhere in the config file that's messing with the mod? I can't really think of anything else at this point. :(
L776[17:54:14] <AmandaC> you tried from a completely blank disk, right?
L777[17:54:16] <AmandaC> hard disk
L778[17:54:37] <Nova> Yeah I'm gonna do it again just to triple check. I'll get back to you in a sec.
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L780[17:58:58] <AmandaC> %oclogs
L781[17:58:58] <MichiBot> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L782[17:59:15] <Nova> Decided to scrap absolutely everything, use only one hard drive for everything and now it's working. Am I only supposed to use one hard drive or something?
L783[18:01:22] <AmandaC> Not sure why that would affect it, unless you were picking the wrong hard drive
L784[18:01:38] <Nova> I used the same hard drive again, the tier 3 one.
L785[18:02:27] <Inari> Nova: What does it say when you go "which oppm"
L786[18:02:37] <Inari> Oh
L787[18:02:39] <Inari> It's already working
L788[18:02:40] <Inari> Oh well
L789[18:03:23] <Nova> x) Really appreciate the help even though it was a really stupid thing on my end. Still trying to wrap my head around the mod and it's a struggle finding stuff online at a consistent rate.
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L792[18:07:24] <AmandaWoc> gamax92: wocchat is indeed very pretty
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L802[18:49:26] <AmandaC> %choose clean the cache or meh
L803[18:49:27] <MichiBot> AmandaC: meh
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L805[18:51:49] <Nova> What kinda stuff has everyone done with their systems out of curiosity? First time messing with the mod so I don't know where to go with it.
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L808[19:01:30] <MGR> Nova, I do some networking which is nice
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L810[19:03:17] <CompanionCube> Nova: not all of it is current but https://openprograms.github.io/
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L816[19:06:08] <Nova> Thanks :) Gonna mess about with this a bit more tomorrow when I'm more awake. Thanks again to those who helped me earlier, looking forward to playing with the mod
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L823[19:20:41] <AmandaC> Well, that's a fun bug
L824[19:22:15] <AmandaC> I thought I'd try Ben's fork of openglasses. Put them on, client crashes. NPE because I didn't pair them first
L825[19:23:39] <AmandaC> Now I can't log into my server, because as soon as I do, I NPE again. :D
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L830[19:30:23] <AmandaC> %choose nbt diving or heirartical technology
L831[19:30:23] <MichiBot> AmandaC: nbt diving
L832[19:58:14] <Temia> Fffuck it, I'm doing it. I'm throwing together a pack. Probably for personal use, but we'll see.
L833[19:58:21] <Temia> Give me cute things to add in!
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L835[20:05:51] <Temia> Heretical technology? Amanda, are you experimenting with ancient relics?
L836[20:07:25] <AmandaC> Temia: n-no! ~hides some crystals under Inari's pillow~
L837[20:07:35] <Temia> Amandaaaaa.
L838[20:07:52] <Temia> If you start attracting Noise here, we're going to have to talk.
L839[20:11:50] <CompanionCube> does heretical technology even exist
L840[20:13:31] <AmandaC> Sorry, that's classified, CompanionCube
L841[20:13:59] <AmandaC> You'll have to sign this long contract, in the interests of national security for what you witnessed
L842[20:14:15] <CompanionCube> security of what nation?
L843[20:14:20] * CompanionCube peeks under the pillow
L844[20:14:43] * Temia SLAMS HER PALM DOWN ON THE PILLOW.
L845[20:14:49] <Temia> CLASSIFIED. >:T
L846[20:15:22] <CompanionCube> but they were nice crystals
L847[20:17:10] <Temia> But seriously, someone give me some cute mods to pick up.
L848[20:18:17] * Temia is mildly sad that Apple&Milk&Tea remains back in 1.7, that's one heck of a cute mod :<
L849[20:21:39] * gamax92 is massively sad.
L850[20:21:47] <Temia> :<
L851[20:22:22] <gamax92> Temia: what mc version you targeting?
L852[20:23:01] <Temia> 1.10, since I'm uncertain if OC is stable enough on later versions.
L853[20:24:47] <Temia> I could probably bump it forward, though I'd miss out on RC if I did
L854[20:31:09] <Vexatos> I have yet to receive a single bug report on 1.11 or 1.12 from our QA team, so it must be stable
L855[20:32:54] <Temia> Well, if there are any cute things that require them, then I might move forward with gleeful abandon
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L860[20:50:46] <Temia> I found it! The cutest mod! https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/exotic-birds
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L869[22:08:30] <Izaya> anyone got any idea why if I uncomment https://github.com/XeonSquared/PsychOS/blob/fsdev/modules/drivers/fastty.lua#L54 the first few lines are one further down than they should be?
L870[22:12:40] <Kodos> So who wants to poke my HTML and tell me why my custom cursor cuts out halfway downt he page
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L873[22:16:33] <Temia> Without any comments whatsoever, no
L874[22:18:27] <Kodos> rewd
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L876[22:23:06] <Kodos> [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] I bet this looks like ass in IRC
L877[22:26:24] <Izaya> literally
L878[22:26:40] <Izaya> helps that it changes fonts half way through because SGI Screen predates unicode
L879[22:32:59] <Temia> Kodos, sorry, I was referring to Izaya
L880[22:33:15] <Izaya> :P
L881[22:33:29] <Temia> I understand the need for brevity given the goal of PsychOS, but damn if it doesn't make it hard to follow >.>;
L882[22:33:47] <Izaya> I mean, comments get stripped out in the production kernels anyway
L883[22:33:51] <Izaya> but nobody uses PsychOS anyway so
L884[22:34:55] <gamax92> Izaya: PsychOS looks good though, minus the indentation and lack of comments
L885[22:35:09] <Izaya> PsychOS has indentation :<
L886[22:35:43] <Izaya> if you don't like the single-space indentation just replace all the spaces at the start of lines with tabs or 4 spaces or whatever
L887[22:36:35] <gamax92> it's okay we'll just train a neural network to add comments
L888[22:36:47] <Temia> This can't possibly go wrong.
L889[22:37:41] <Izaya> that seems useful
L890[22:39:21] <AmandaC> @Kodos why has The King of the Cosmos gotten dollar sign tattoos?
L891[22:41:16] <AmandaC> ( What it looks like for me: https://amandac.keybase.pub/screenshots/Screenshot%20from%202017-10-10%2023-55-01.png )
L892[22:41:27] <AmandaC> Now,if you'll excuse me, I should be going to bed, not rearrnaging my base
L893[22:41:38] <Izaya> ha, sleep
L894[22:41:40] <AmandaC> ( You can guess why from the timestamp on that file )
L895[23:15:00] <Kodos> Oh boy, Shadow of War is microtransaction trash
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