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L10[02:45:32] <stephan48> can someone
recommend a GUI lib for opencomputers?
L11[03:00:05]
<Forecaster>
Someone was working on something like that
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L13[03:01:23] <stephan48> i think there are
probably quite a few people working on projects like that :D
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L15[03:08:20] <Saphire> stephan48: iirc it
was gamax92?
L16[03:09:24] <stephan48> gamax92: you
where accused of writing/having written a gui library. is that true
and is there possible something for me to test?
L17[03:11:19] <Saphire> :c
L18[03:11:42] <Saphire> Google autosuggests
gamax92's nickname
L19[03:11:53] <stephan48> just joking of
cause
L20[03:11:57] <Saphire> Perks of unique
nickname q-q
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L23[03:16:47] <stephan48> wb
L24[03:16:51] <SaphireL> Aaand that's me
again but from desktop that I am too lazy to SSH connect to my
weechat instance. Before I was on phone :P
L25[03:16:57] <stephan48> hahaha
L26[03:17:11] <SaphireL> ...no way you read
that in less than a second.
L27[03:17:14] <stephan48> for me its
usually the other way around
L28[03:17:17] <SaphireL> Uh, care to relink
it again?
L30[03:17:31] <SaphireL> That
L31[03:17:40] <SaphireL> *that's, uh very
strange datetime format
L32[03:17:42] <stephan48> yours arrived at
09.101833 and mine i send at 09.101839
L33[03:17:48] <SaphireL> OH!
L34[03:17:50] <stephan48> day.HHmmss
L35[03:18:02] <SaphireL> As I said, strange
:P
L36[03:18:15] <stephan48> i added the day
so i can quickly see day changes when i go throu a backlog
L37[03:18:18] <SaphireL> Hmm, europe?
L38[03:18:20] <stephan48> ye
L39[03:18:24] <stephan48> germany
L40[03:18:38] <SaphireL> Day change is
veeeeery visible when you have 24 hour time on :P
L41[03:18:44] <stephan48> yup
L42[03:18:45] <SaphireL> And there are
niiiice little line too.
L43[03:18:57] <SaphireL> Not in relay
though :c
L44[03:19:00] <SaphireL> (I think?)
L45[03:19:05] <stephan48> relay?
L46[03:19:08] <SaphireL> Darn, webchat
sucks.
L47[03:19:15] <SaphireL> stephan48: uh,
weechat relay.
L48[03:19:26] <SaphireL> Wooohooo, there's
<tab>ing!
L49[03:19:27] <stephan48> ah
L50[03:19:33] <stephan48> yay
L51[03:19:39] <stephan48> irssi shows Day
changed ...
L52[03:19:46] <stephan48> in a non chatline
format
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L54[03:20:03] <stephan48> but i found that
in some high/low volume channels i overlooked that and scrolled to
far
L55[03:20:16] <stephan48> mostly when i am
wrong in my expectation on how much traffic a channel has
L56[03:20:33] <SaphireL> Hmm
L57[03:20:52] <SaphireL> ...hm
L58[03:20:57] <stephan48> mh ;)
L59[03:21:04] <SaphireL> What to replace
"god" in "oh god"? :V
L60[03:21:23] <SaphireL> Because every time
I actually THINK about writing that phrase, I just.. eeeeegh.
L61[03:21:37] <stephan48> good
question
L62[03:21:48] <SaphireL> I just dislike the
religious connotation of it.
L63[03:22:30] <SaphireL> How the hell (darn
(...no comments)) do I remember word "connotation"?
<.<
L65[03:23:58] <SaphireL> Gopher's GUI is...
well, it's old and I think it works weird iirc
L66[03:27:15] <stephan48> "old"
... 4 years ;)
L67[03:27:23] <stephan48> for the oldest
file
L68[03:29:33] <SaphireL> stephan48: okay,
so... I found two more GUI libs, except for the one you
linked
L69[03:29:39] <SaphireL> GML and
libforms
L70[03:29:47] <stephan48> GML seems to be
gophers
L71[03:30:01] <SaphireL> It /might/
work
L72[03:30:13] <SaphireL> Or it might
not.
L73[03:30:16] <stephan48> planing on
running my main service applications as background tasks i.e.
managing mekanism ore stuff, exporting ore to processing machines
and then having a event(this seems to be the way to go) and then
having a gui running in the foreground and just receiving/sending
events
L74[03:30:20] <stephan48> jup will
see
L75[03:30:34] <SaphireL> Uh, what's your
ping time?
L76[03:30:46] <stephan48> ping time?
L77[03:30:50] <SaphireL> To IRC
L78[03:31:08] <SaphireL> .-.
L79[03:31:15] <stephan48> 18ms
L80[03:31:17]
<Forecaster>
%p
L81[03:31:20] <stephan48> %p
L82[03:31:26] <SaphireL> %p
L83[03:31:33] <stephan48> MichiBot: wake
up
L84[03:31:43] <SaphireL> $p
L85[03:31:44] <SaphireL> #p
L86[03:31:46] <SaphireL> &p
L87[03:31:51] <SaphireL> what?
L88[03:32:00]
<Forecaster>
Huh
L89[03:32:02] <stephan48> add another 8-10
ms to my shell host(my root)
L90[03:32:12] <stephan48> MichiBot should
answer these according to past history
L91[03:32:13] <MichiBot> Hello
stephan48
L92[03:32:27]
<Forecaster>
...
L93[03:32:41]
<Forecaster>
Why didn't the ping command work
L94[03:32:49] <stephan48> %p
L95[03:32:56] <Corded> * <Lizzy>
blames @Forecaster
L96[03:32:58] <stephan48> maybe the bot
needs cofee?
L97[03:33:04] <SaphireL> Oh wow
L99[03:33:21]
<Forecaster>
Weird
L100[03:33:22] <SaphireL> I consider
myself barely talking here
L101[03:33:40] <SaphireL> ...darn, this
nick won't be included in stats q-q
L102[03:34:19]
<Forecaster>
Ask michi to link it
L103[03:34:23]
<ste48> now
i exist twice ?
L104[03:36:23] <SaphireL> "Qustions:
8,274 3rd place ♀Saphire What are you talking about?"
L105[03:36:25] <SaphireL> xD
L106[03:37:34]
<Lizzy>
%stats
L108[03:38:19] <SaphireL> Who's
maintaining stats? <.<
L109[03:38:30]
<Lizzy>
michi
L111[03:38:38]
<Lizzy>
since she also has the logs
L112[03:38:57] <SaphireL> Michiyo: hey,
can you link this nickname to "Saphire"?
L113[03:39:15] <SaphireL> ...huzzah to
bouncers <.<
L114[03:39:41] <stephan48> thanks for you
help Saphire!
L115[03:39:59] <Syrren> SaphireL: ZNC, or
a different one?
L116[03:42:08] <SaphireL> Hm?
L117[03:45:21] <stephan48> your
"bouncer"
L118[03:45:55] <stephan48> he mentioned
wirechat relay(probably something like irssi proxy(allowing a
client to be used behind irssi))
L119[03:46:28] <Syrren> SaphireL: re your
message "huzzah to bouncers" - I was asking which
particular bouncer you were using. ZNC is one of the most popular
ones.
L120[03:48:29] <stephan48> weechat not
wirechat...
L121[03:48:50] <SaphireL> I am using
weechat relay as that's pretty much the best way to easily have
synced history and not be bothered in case of disconnects.
L122[03:48:58] <SaphireL> Technically it's
not a bouncer
L123[03:49:29] <SaphireL> But, by that
"huzzah" I meant specifically Mimiru's bouncer, as that
she'll get the ping/message from me (maybe).
L124[03:49:41] <SaphireL> %tell Saphire
Hm.
L125[03:49:42] <MichiBot> SaphireL:
Saphire will be notified of this message when next seen.
L126[03:49:49] <SaphireL> Oh, whew?
L127[03:49:51] <SaphireL> %ping
L128[03:49:53] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
SaphireL 0.84s
L129[03:50:14] <stephan48> %ping
L130[03:50:18] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
stephan48 3.37s
L131[03:50:28] <stephan48> %ping
L132[03:50:31] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
stephan48 2.73s
L133[03:50:36] <stephan48> weird. surely
not feels like it
L134[03:50:49] <SaphireL> %tell Mimiru
Hey! Can you link this nickname to "Saphire" in stats?
:3
L135[03:50:50] <MichiBot> SaphireL: Mimiru
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L136[03:50:50] <stephan48> MichiBot: how
does it measure the ping?
L137[03:50:59]
<Lizzy>
%ping
L138[03:51:06] <SaphireL> Lizzy...
L139[03:51:10]
<Lizzy> lol,
didn't expect that to work
L140[03:51:12] <stephan48> i think Michiyo
would be the person
L141[03:51:16] <SaphireL> GAH
L142[03:51:32]
<Lizzy>
?
L143[03:51:50] <stephan48> who runs the
stats
L144[03:51:56]
<Lizzy>
Michi
L145[03:52:03] <SaphireL> %tell Mimiru
Whoooops, I confused you for Michiyo. Sorry.
L146[03:52:04] <MichiBot> SaphireL: Mimiru
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L147[03:52:06] <SaphireL> <.<
L148[03:52:08] *
SaphireL hides
L149[03:52:16]
<Lizzy>
mimiru and michiyo are the same person
L150[03:52:20] <SaphireL> ...
L151[03:52:33] *
SaphireL flips table and then hides under it.
L152[03:53:18] <SaphireL> Such dishonor,
such shame q-q
L153[03:54:53] <stephan48> happens
L154[03:55:02] <stephan48> ahm. sorry
:(
L155[03:55:16] <stephan48> new i am - much
to learn
L156[03:56:13] <SaphireL> %tell Michiyo I
might have got confused in you having two nicknames and send few
tells to your Mimiru account over %tell <.< Also, could you
pretty please add "^.^" and etc smiles in stats? Though I
guess those have way too many variations.
L157[03:56:13] <MichiBot> SaphireL:
Michiyo will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L160[04:03:33] <SaphireL> Is Renari a
cheap replica of Inari?
L161[04:03:42] <SaphireL> Oh, derp
L162[04:03:45] <SaphireL> ...hm
L163[04:05:04] <stephan48> re gui: worst
case I will just have a background task send all the stuff via
TCP/HTTP to a custom webapp.
L164[04:05:14] <stephan48> might do that
anyway as sort of out of game monitoring
L165[04:05:18] <SaphireL> ...
L166[04:05:24] <SaphireL> Hm.
L167[04:05:55] <stephan48> but i am lazy
and having to alt+tab out of the game would be annoying.
L168[04:06:09] <stephan48> so probably a
guid and a webapp
L169[04:06:43] <SaphireL> What kind of
data do you need to visualize?
L170[04:08:00] <SaphireL> brb, might be on
phone at SaphireL
L171[04:08:03] <SaphireL> *Saphire
L172[04:08:04] <SaphireL> derp
L173[04:11:16] <stephan48> for the ore
processing: mekanism ore input/output chains(can make a screenshot
this evening; basically 1 washer serving a couple crystalizers for
x5 ore), general amounts of ores in the system. for the mekanism
fusion reactor/energy storage the amounts of fuel stored in quantum
storage tanks. same for general other stuff
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L175[04:12:29] <stephan48> basically just
pure data showing. like the ingame server waiting on a robot
placing/breaking tanks before doing something. but also a way to
interrupt the robots task without having to hunt it and then having
to shut it down
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L177[04:23:29] <Saphire> Wait, only
numbers, or breakdown by materials/etc? And hi MichiBot
L178[04:23:30] <MichiBot> Hello
Saphire
L179[04:35:40] <stephan48> basically
showing whats in the ME system based on entries in a database
upgrade
L180[04:35:42] <stephan48> simple
list
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L183[05:07:57] <Saphire> Hm.
L184[05:08:11] <Saphire> There should be
alot of things like that, no?
L186[05:08:17] <Saphire> shush
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<Forecaster>
Well crap
L193[05:50:26]
<Forecaster>
I restarted the company router and now it won't let me log
in...
L194[05:53:19]
<Lizzy>
lol
L195[05:53:46]
<Forecaster>
Oh
L196[05:53:52]
<Forecaster>
There it is
L197[05:54:09]
<Forecaster>
I dunno what it was connecting to but it wasn't the router
L198[05:59:36] <Syrren> when in doubt
assume MITM?
L200[06:06:40]
<Forecaster>
It was probably something local
L201[06:42:07] <Saphire> Hmm
L202[06:42:15] <Saphire> To link that
fetlang thing or not?
L203[06:53:10]
<Forecaster>
The what?
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L205[06:58:20] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for
a new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L207[06:58:20] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on
this video:
tablet,programming,lua,code,opencomputers,reactor,industrialcraft2
L208[06:58:34] <MichiBot>
RailcraftLP-
[Episode 48] - Tabletries | length:
37m 40s | Likes:
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Published On 9/10/2017
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L212[08:06:30] <S3> allot
L213[08:06:31] <S3> MichiBot: :D
L214[08:12:27]
<Forecaster>
It's just one l :P
L215[08:14:43] <Inari> alot
L217[08:18:24] <S3> forecaster but allot
is a thing
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L219[08:36:54] <stephan48> Forecaster: is
your code available ouside of the stream?
L220[08:37:45] <stephan48> it looks quite
like something i would want to steal(ofcourse with attributation)
and butcher(determined after watching barely 60 seconds)
L221[08:38:16] <stephan48> you are
developing in intellij and then moving the pogramm on the
harddisk?
L222[08:41:04] <ben_mkiv> how did you
teach intellij how to do lua? :P
L223[08:41:53] <g> lua plugin
L224[08:42:12] <stephan48> "Lua
language integration for IntelliJ"
L225[08:42:30] <stephan48> should be
available for the community version
L226[08:42:37] <ben_mkiv> hm, looked for
that earlier but couldnt find it
L227[08:42:49] <stephan48> thanks
Forecaster
L228[08:43:19] <stephan48> intellij +
deploy on save(via ssh)
L229[08:43:31] <stephan48> would make
developing so much nicer for me
L230[08:44:12] <ben_mkiv> nvm
L231[08:44:21] <ben_mkiv> didnt check
browse repos
L232[08:44:22] <ben_mkiv> thanks
L233[08:48:19] <stephan48> ah great. my
plan needs a server restart
L234[08:49:08] <stephan48> ah nope. the
update i ran on ftb beyond did not change buffered back to
true
L235[08:55:04] <stephan48> works :D
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L237[09:28:53]
<Forecaster>
What, you don't like my code enough to keep it as-is? D:
L238[09:30:24] <stephan48> sadly I never
explored IC2 to any meaningfull dept
L239[09:30:39] <stephan48> working with
mekanism, ender io and ae2 so far
L240[09:31:03] <stephan48> what i like is
the control structure and cleanliness
L241[09:31:29] <stephan48> i think, i can
adapt some of it for my ore processing throu(the concept)
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L243[09:43:29]
<Forecaster>
There is a repo where I have all my oc code
L244[09:43:43]
<Forecaster>
But I don't think I've committed any of that yet
L245[09:59:17] <Inari> Oh I'm dumb
L246[09:59:23] <Inari> I keep wondering
why this rest request doesn't work
L247[09:59:32] <Inari> I never actually
sent the array of params I created with it ¬_¬
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L251[10:12:40] <pizza> hello
L252[10:12:54] <pizza> can anyone help
newbie..?
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L254[10:13:24] <Guest8833> hello..
L255[10:13:35] <AmandaC> Don't ask to ask,
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L256[10:13:38] <Inari> %hi
L257[10:13:39]
<Lizzy>
^
L258[10:13:40] <Inari> %hello
L259[10:13:42] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome
to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your
questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L260[10:13:42] <Inari> Pls
L261[10:13:44] <Inari> Ah, there
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L263[10:15:03]
<Lizzy> well
bye then
L264[10:18:16] <MajGenRelativity> ~w
shell
L266[10:19:33]
<MGR> ~w
event
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L269[10:27:07]
<MGR> So,
I'm trying to write a program that runs in the /boot folder, but
print statements from it are not showing up
L270[10:27:09]
<Pirate> is
there a simple chat program for OC
L271[10:28:22]
<MGR> How do
I print to the terminal during startup of OpenOS is really my
question
L272[10:29:37]
<MGR>
Neither print() or term.write appear to work
L273[10:32:29] <Inari> MGR: You sure it
doesn't just clear what you printed away?
L274[10:32:50]
<MGR> Corded
lag there ?
L275[10:33:06]
<MGR> I
don't see it flicker on to the screen, but is there a way to check
for sure?
L276[10:33:45]
<Lizzy> if
it's in bootup, you could try putting a sleep (if it's defined by
the time your file runs) in there to make sure it's printing
L277[10:33:57]
<Lizzy> that
or i think the bootup log is saved to /tmp ?
L278[10:34:02]
<Lizzy> not
too sure on that though
L279[10:35:00]
<MGR> There
is no log in /tmp, but I will try the os sleep
L280[10:35:08]
<MGR> My
file runs last in /boot
L281[10:35:22]
<Lizzy>
cool, sleep should be defined by then
L282[10:35:57]
<MGR> It
does appear to produce the needed print statements now
L283[10:36:02]
<MGR> Thank
you Lizzy
L284[10:36:23]
<Lizzy>
np
L285[10:37:13] <gamax92> Saphire
L286[10:40:23] <gamax92> Saphire: I
haven't worked on a GUI library for OC
L287[10:41:22] <gamax92> I was writing one
for something else that isn't massively slow and actually has a
graphics system
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L290[11:01:39] <gamax92> Izaya: oh.
L291[11:02:29] <Izaya> the thermals of
that worry me a little
L292[11:04:12] <gamax92> oh yeah, I
imagine cardboard ain't the best for heat transfer
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L297[11:13:03] <stephan48> Forecaster:
nice episode!
L298[11:20:04]
<Forecaster>
there is a distrurbing lack of ducttape
L299[11:20:23]
<Forecaster>
stephan48: thanks :P
L300[11:20:42] <Izaya> yeah it's hard to
do weapon mods without adhesive >.>
L301[11:21:22]
<Forecaster>
you can make adhesive in a cooking bench :P
L302[11:21:52] <Izaya> yeah but that needs
a bunch of farming
L303[11:22:08]
<Forecaster>
or stealing stuff from other's farms :3
L304[11:22:19] <Izaya> :3
L305[11:22:47]
<Forecaster>
I mean, I'm no raider or anything, but if they're not gonna guard
their stuff...
L306[11:23:14] <Izaya> Raiders are doing
it wrong tbh
L307[11:23:25] <Izaya> rather than
pointing guns just walk in and harvest their shit
L308[11:25:04]
<Forecaster>
maybe they think it's worth it, cause if raiders or robots or
something show up the vault dweller will kill em
L309[11:28:21] <gamax92> dance party
L310[11:34:21] <payonel> @mgr you want to
add a bootup message, before you've reached the shell?
L311[11:35:56] *
Temia squints at the picture
L312[11:36:06] <Temia> I don't think
thermal conductivity is a big issue with that board.
L313[11:36:16] <Temia> It's using what
looks like a 386.
L314[11:36:27] <Izaya> I didn't see a
fan
L315[11:36:39] <Izaya> oh
L316[11:36:47] <Izaya> it is one of those
purple ones with pins
L317[11:37:21] <gamax92> I didn't even
notice that
L319[11:38:41]
<MGR>
payonel, yes
L320[11:38:53]
<MGR>
Os.sleep seems to work
L321[11:40:17] <payonel> printing to tty
isn't ready until you've reached the shell. you could add an
event.pull("term_available") in your boot code, and then
print
L322[11:42:19] <Temia> I think it's a RISC
System/6000
L323[11:42:28] <Temia> Can't say for sure
beyond that
L324[11:42:56] <Izaya> Old RISC
workstations are fscking nice
L325[11:43:32] <Izaya> though predictably
expensive
L326[11:43:34] <Izaya> :<
L327[11:43:34] <Temia> ...I think the
designation is 250?
L329[11:44:14] <Izaya> Model 250, PPC 601,
66 or 80Mhz, 16-256M RAM, slimline desktop
L330[11:44:17] <Izaya> fits
L331[11:44:26] <Izaya> why aren't there
actual desktop machines any more :<
L332[11:44:51] <S3> gamax92: so floppy
disk 65021
L334[11:45:11] <Izaya> man even a SGI
machine is cheaper than a RS/600 box
L335[11:45:18] <Izaya> s/600/6000/
L336[11:45:20] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
man even a SGI machine is cheaper than a RS/6000 box
L337[11:45:29] <S3> Izaya: heh
L338[11:46:26] <S3> Izaya: you just need
this
L340[11:46:29] <S3> this is all you
need
L341[11:47:04] <Izaya> that's the CoCo 2
right?
L343[11:47:15] <S3> on my nice black and
white TV
L344[11:47:18] <S3> I use for a
monitor
L345[11:47:25]
<Forecaster>
stephan48: do you still want access to the code?
L346[11:47:38] <stephan48> Forecaster: if
you are willing to give it
L347[11:47:38] <Izaya> I mean, the 6809 is
a good chip...
L348[11:47:46] <Izaya> But I'm more
familiar with the 6502
L349[11:47:56]
<Forecaster>
I just pushed the reactor programs to my repo
L350[11:48:11] <AmandaC> payonel: heh,
thanks for accepting the PR, I'm at a loss as to what's up with the
remaining race-conditon code I'm finding. I have a program
'hb-sync-files' what pulls a manifest then a bunch of files,
seemingly ranodomly it'll get stuck and be unable to pull a file,
which I'm attributing to a race condtion, but from my understanding
I'm not sure where it could be in the modem code specifically
L351[11:48:19] <S3> Izaya: both are
amazing chips
L352[11:48:21] <S3> chips*
L354[11:48:36] <S3> the 6809 is very
special because it has NEXT and two stacks
L355[11:48:42] <Inari> AmandaC: a PR?
:o
L356[11:48:45] <stephan48> thank you
L358[11:48:57] <stephan48> Forecaster: did
i figure it right, that you are from germany?
L359[11:49:04]
<Forecaster>
no
L360[11:49:28]
<Forecaster>
I'm in europe though
L361[11:49:41] <stephan48> another german
speaking country?
L362[11:49:56] <Inari> Cruor: How's Julia
GUI wise?
L363[11:49:59]
<Forecaster>
I don't speak any german unfortunately
L364[11:50:33] <Inari> Forecaster is
German, he just doesn't know it yet
L365[11:50:41] <S3> I wonder how fast
gamax92's thistle operates
L366[11:50:53] <gamax92> S3: it's snowing
:D
L367[11:51:11] <Inari> S3: at a sizzling
speed
L368[11:51:12] <AmandaC> S3: fast enough I
don't notice much of a problem in my madness of using C++ on
it.
L369[11:51:23] <AmandaC> s/enough/enough
that/
L370[11:51:24] <MichiBot> <AmandaC>
S3: fast enough that I don't notice much of a problem in my madness
of using C++ on it.
L371[11:51:28] <S3> you ran C++ on it? I
heard about that..
L372[11:51:37] <Inari> I need to look into
thistle more
L373[11:51:46] <S3> that's hilarious
because plain old C is very inefficientr on a 6502
L374[11:51:56] <S3> AmandaC: I'm working
on getting fig forth working on it
L375[11:52:03] <S3> but I need
gamax92'
L376[11:52:07] <gamax92> my?
L377[11:52:13] <S3> gamax92's help first
to get floppy disk boot to work
L378[11:52:18] <AmandaC> Stop kidnapping
children S3
L379[11:52:27] <S3> What's I do?!
L380[11:52:34] <AmandaC> You said you need
gamax92. :P
L381[11:52:42] <gamax92> S3: write file as
/Thistle/boot
L382[11:52:44] <gamax92> put in
computer
L383[11:52:45] <gamax92> boot
computer
L384[11:53:14] <gamax92> S3: btw what mc
version you using
L385[11:53:28] <S3> your thing said it was
1.7.10 when I compiled it
L386[11:53:43] <S3> so I'm using 1.7.10
unless otherwise told not to
L387[11:53:45] <payonel> AmandaC: if you
help me work on a repro (either later when i'm home, or create an
issue) i'd be glad to test it
L388[11:54:07] <S3> so I can just throw a
raw bin file called boot in /Thistle on a managed disk?
L389[11:54:21] <AmandaC> payonel: It's
fairly consistently reproducible using my home base mess, but I've
not tried to whittle it down into something you could just wget
easily
L390[11:54:23] <Inari> Hm seems Julia has
a Gtk package
L391[11:54:41] <gamax92> S3: okay, cause
1.7.10 has a fix by AmandaC that cleans up the signal buffer that
hasn't been included in newer versions
L392[11:54:46] <gamax92> and yes
L393[11:55:32] <Izaya> what
L394[11:55:45] <Izaya> you can buy dot
matrix printers on amazon?
L395[11:56:11] <Izaya> welp, guess I know
what I'm getting >.>
L396[11:56:44] <Inari> Wonder how hard it
wouldd be to port lua to 6502
L397[11:56:57] <S3> not hard
L398[11:56:58] <Inari> Mostly since S3
mentioned C being super inefficient on 6502 xD
L399[11:57:01] <Inari> And lua is C
iirc
L400[11:58:08] <Izaya> are C++ compilers
generally in C++ or just plain C?
L401[12:02:47] <gamax92> I know people
have complained it's hard to do C in 6502 due to only having 3
registers but this is because they are doing this wrong
L402[12:03:00] <gamax92> Treat the zero
page as a bunch of scratch space
L403[12:03:06] <gamax92> plenty of
registers!
L404[12:03:12] <Izaya> ZP is fast
L405[12:03:37] <Izaya> hell, even if you
only reserve 8 or 16 addresses in ZP that's still heaps of
registers
L406[12:03:43] <payonel> AmandaC: also...i
need to change the change you made, a bit
L407[12:05:35] <S3> Inari: the only thing
you really need for lua to work is a very basic VFS
L408[12:05:40] <S3> which is pretty tiny
in C
L409[12:05:45] <S3> it just needs some
basic *nix functions
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L412[12:07:19] <Inari> [19:10:00]
<S3> which is pretty tiny in C
L413[12:07:22] <Inari> but you said C
sucks on 6502
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L415[12:10:04] <S3> Inari: it really
does
L416[12:10:16] <S3> the 6502 is a horrible
chip for C, but it works
L417[12:10:24] <AmandaC> payonel: change
how, ooc?
L418[12:11:03] <S3> it tends not to suffer
because of the mightiness of the zero page though
L421[12:27:43]
<Forecaster>
we should re-name monday to something else
L422[12:27:44]
<Forecaster>
that'll fix it
L423[12:27:56] <Inari> Let's call it
Saturday
L425[12:30:59] <AmandaC> The
"bang" message the server sends before the
"ping" corrosponds to a "ack" message sent by
my base's RPC system. So something's causing the second packet to
get dropped at some point
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L427[12:34:21] <Inari> TIL Lizzy's husband
isn't vifino
L428[12:35:21] <payonel> is lizzy
married?
L429[12:35:46] <Inari> Yes, to my Husband
apparently
L430[12:36:18] <AmandaC> Inari is
married?
L431[12:36:30] <Inari> To @catgirls_Bot,
yes
L432[12:36:57] <payonel> AmandaC: can you
retest with my latest push?
L433[12:37:04] <AmandaC> payonel:
sec
L434[12:37:23] <payonel> AmandaC: oh
and
L435[12:37:26] <payonel> there are some
changes
L436[12:37:28] <payonel> um
L437[12:37:57] <payonel> running
`../../another/path/ocvm` will now respect your current dir, and
create your vm dirs locally
L438[12:38:06] <payonel> but still uses
the system/ dir from the source dir
L439[12:38:20] <payonel> later i plan to
add the ability to specify all the system/ things on command
line
L440[12:39:32] <payonel> AmandaC: i
removed the locks that you added, bc technically the Worker parent
class puts locks there
L441[12:39:44] <payonel> but i had messy
code that i cleaned up
L442[12:40:06] <AmandaC> payonel: still
happens. :/
L443[12:40:15] <payonel> ok
L444[12:44:04] <payonel> AmandaC: ran the
code, got the ping timeout
L445[12:44:13] <payonel> is that the
bug/failure you are talking about?
L446[12:44:17] <AmandaC> yeah
L447[12:44:21] <payonel> ok cool
L448[12:44:31] <payonel> i'll mess with
this more after work
L449[12:44:35] <payonel> thanks
L450[12:48:52] <AmandaC> sure. :)
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L452[12:50:39] <AmandaC> payonel: also,
the modem lock file isn't reliably cleaned up after the 'host'
server closes.
L453[12:50:56] <AmandaC>
s/server/instance/
L454[12:53:03] <Izaya> payonel: ocvm has
modems now right?
L455[12:55:10] <payonel> Izaya: yeah, but
apparently they're buggy :)
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L458[12:57:53] <Izaya> ah fun
L459[12:58:09] <Izaya> is there a way to
force a screen size?
L460[12:58:35] <AmandaC> Izaya: it just
uses the tty size
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L462[12:58:55] <Izaya> I know
L463[12:59:12] <AmandaC> I've not noticed
anything to override it in my diving, but payonel can speak more to
that than me
L464[12:59:31] <Izaya> but that's
inconvenient when I want 80x25 and my wm maximizes the window
because it's the only one in that tag
L465[13:01:07] <AmandaC> Izaya: increase
the font size until it's close! :P
L466[13:01:27] <Izaya> soon: 900pt SGI
Screen
L467[13:01:41] <Izaya> unfortunately it
doesn't scale beyond like 16pt
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L469[13:03:49] <AmandaC> payonel: if it
helps, it seems to get better if you add an os.sleep(0.5) between
the sending of bang and pong
L470[13:04:33] <AmandaC> ( in the
servr)
L471[13:05:45] <payonel> you can resize
the vm
L472[13:07:02] <payonel> but once you
phyiscally resize the pty/tty, screen_resize events fire and the vm
sees a new size
L473[13:07:26] <payonel> but ocvm allows
the vm to resize the screen resolution
L474[13:08:47] <payonel> e.g. `resolution
80 24; cat /lib/sh.lua` and you'll see it prints inside a smaller
view
L475[13:08:57] <payonel> ocvm doesn't draw
artificial lines around the smaller window
L476[13:09:01] <AmandaC> ~w
thread_exit
L478[13:18:47] <AmandaC> payonel: uh, so.
Adding per-instance log files is literally a one line change, it
seems
L479[13:19:06] <payonel> AmandaC: my
concern is the logging that occurs before the client object is
ready
L480[13:19:15] <payonel> maybe i should
just make those errors that print to stderr
L481[13:19:28] <AmandaC> payonel: Doing it
in main.cpp ~150 seems relatively safe
L482[13:19:57] <AmandaC> I tested by
nuking the $OCVM_SRC/log file and running a couple of vms
L483[13:20:16] <payonel> "doing it in
main.cpp:150" doing what there?
L484[13:20:19] <AmandaC> granted, I've in
no way tried an extensive look through the code base
L485[13:20:25] <AmandaC> Inserting `lout =
client_env_path + "/log";`
L486[13:20:49] <payonel> oh sure
L487[13:20:50] <payonel> hmm
L488[13:20:52] <payonel> yeah...
L489[13:21:06] <payonel> i had this weird
goal way in the beginning to allow multiple clients to run per
instance
L490[13:21:21] <payonel> but that's a bit
silly at this point
L491[13:21:36] <AmandaC> ah
L492[13:21:54] <payonel> i should do it
your way
L493[13:22:00] <payonel> besides
L494[13:22:10]
<0xc0000000>
how do i fix too long without yielding bluse scfreen of death
L495[13:22:11] <payonel> i can always
refactor later if i ever do want to make a multiple client
thing
L496[13:22:19] <AmandaC> heh, indeed
L497[13:22:32] <payonel> 0xc0: yield
L498[13:22:41]
<0xc0000000>
HOq
L499[13:22:42] <payonel> 0xc0 we probably
should write up a wiki page on that
L500[13:22:50]
<0xc0000000>
probably
L501[13:23:04] <payonel> also, i wish more
community members would write wiki pages :)
L502[13:23:06]
<0xc0000000>
spamming keyboard doesn't fix the problem
L503[13:23:15] <payonel> 0xc0 i wouldn't
expect it to
L504[13:23:33]
<0xc0000000>
sometimes it does
L505[13:23:40] <payonel> 0xc0
computer.pullSignal must be called at least once every *n*
seconds
L506[13:23:50]
<0xc0000000>
no i get it on computer bootup
L507[13:23:51] <AmandaC> Your program
can't have a tight loop that doesn't yield (computer.pullSignal,
event.pull, os.sleep, etc)
L508[13:24:05]
<0xc0000000>
i dont have a program,
L509[13:24:11]
<0xc0000000>
its the whole operating systemo doing that
L510[13:24:12]
<0xc0000000>
on startup
L511[13:24:14] <payonel> on computer boot?
is your server using a custom config?
L512[13:24:22]
<0xc0000000>
idk probably no
L513[13:24:23] <payonel> is your server
severly overloaded?
L514[13:24:28]
<0xc0000000>
i only changed the openblocks configs
L515[13:25:06] <payonel> you know what ...
i know add a few simple yields during boot
L516[13:25:17]
<0xc0000000>
ho
L517[13:25:19]
<0xc0000000>
how
L518[13:25:19] <payonel> it would cause a
very very small delay
L519[13:25:32]
<0xc0000000>
how do i do that tihng
L520[13:25:34] <payonel> 0xc0 i'm the
openos dev, i'm referring to what i could do for you
L521[13:25:40]
<0xc0000000>
ok
L522[13:26:20]
<0xc0000000>
very very small delay shouldn't be a problem because i get ver very
long delays with the bsod
L523[13:27:04] <payonel> 0xc0 i
understand, but you have to consider the rest of the userbase
L524[13:27:11]
<0xc0000000>
ok
L525[13:27:13] <payonel> getting bsod on
boot is very rare, but i've heard this before
L526[13:27:23] <Michiyo> 60 os.sleep(1)'s
:P
L527[13:27:24] <payonel> if i add yields
on boot to mitigate, it'll slow boot for everyone
L528[13:27:37]
<0xc0000000>
and the how do i integrate it only for myself?
L529[13:27:58]
<0xc0000000>
because i am so close to exploding this computer right nw
L530[13:27:59]
<0xc0000000>
now
L531[13:28:05] <payonel> 0xc0 if i make
this change, you'd have to download a new build
L532[13:28:11]
<Forecaster>
Michiyo: lets make it 120, just to be sure
L533[13:28:18] <payonel> 0xc0 for now,
edit your config and increase the timeout
L534[13:28:19]
<0xc0000000>
isn't it possible to change some code the OS?
L535[13:28:22]
<0xc0000000>
ok
L536[13:28:30] <Michiyo> Saphire, you can
PR nick linking to the stats repo and it'll get pulled
nightly
L537[13:28:35] <Michiyo> @Forecaster,
sounds great!
L538[13:29:01]
<0xc0000000>
to what number do i change it to?
L539[13:29:15] <payonel> 0xc0: change the
"timeout", default is 5
L540[13:29:19] <payonel> change to
whatever you want :)
L541[13:29:25] <payonel> that's how long a
program can run without yielding
L542[13:29:34]
<Forecaster>
increase until it works
L543[13:29:41]
<0xc0000000>
999 should do the trick
L544[13:30:06] <payonel> to be clear:
config/opencomputers/settings.conf
L545[13:30:34]
<0xc0000000>
im running on 1.7.10, so it's simply config/OpenComputers.cfg
L547[13:31:00] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Saphire
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L548[13:31:40] <Saphire> Gotcha
L549[13:31:48] <Michiyo> I added
saphirel
L550[13:32:08]
<0xc0000000>
this is a very good mod, because sometimes, some clientside errors
are very easy to fix, not like optifine, with it's shaders which
started crashing my game
L551[13:38:37] <AmandaC> %choose breaking
change or stable ABI
L552[13:38:38] <MichiBot> AmandaC: stable
ABI
L553[13:38:45] <AmandaC> hrm
L554[13:39:11]
<Forecaster>
got's to get them ABI's
L555[13:43:22]
<0xc0000000>
wow now the computer starts up slowly, but maybe that's because of
lag
L556[13:46:47]
<0xc0000000>
wait so increasing the thing makes it doing stuff longer?
L557[13:50:00] <gamax92> hey
Michiyo?
L558[13:50:10]
<0xc0000000>
can i change the value without restarting the server?
L559[13:50:54]
<Forecaster>
@0xc0000000 no
L560[13:51:02]
<0xc0000000>
oh no
L561[13:51:17] <Michiyo> hey gamax92
L562[13:52:17] <gamax92> Michiyo: I'm
updating the dark gitlab css
L563[13:52:44] <gamax92> to support the
new navigation bar and side bar and also fix the main page and blog
pages
L564[13:53:00] <Michiyo> Oh right... I
updated to 10 last night.. I wonder how badly it's broken lol
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L566[13:57:42] <payonel> 0xc0 increasing
timeout doesn't make your computers run slower
L567[13:58:00] <AmandaC> It's running slow
because the server is runing slow
L568[13:58:12] <payonel> 0xc0 your
computers are running the same, but now they can run slow without
being killed
L569[13:58:18] <AmandaC> it's just not
getting beheaded for running slow now
L570[13:58:43] <AmandaC> TIL ocvm doesn't
enforce too long without yielding
L571[13:58:54] <payonel> AmandaC: well, it
has it
L572[13:59:15] <AmandaC> payonel: I ran
`while true do end` in lua and it hung ocvm. <.<
L573[13:59:29] <payonel> yeah, i meant,
the default timeout is math.huge :)
L574[13:59:29] <AmandaC> couldn't even hit
esc to close ocvm
L575[13:59:30] <payonel> hehe
L576[13:59:32] <payonel> sorry
L577[13:59:38] <AmandaC> ah
L578[13:59:55] <payonel> i left that in
because .. debuging ocvm and didn't want to lose the vm
L579[14:00:00] <payonel> i should change
that :P
L580[14:00:08] <payonel> look in the
${vm_dir}/client.fg
L581[14:00:13] <AmandaC> ah
L582[14:00:16] <payonel> and change
system.timeout
L583[14:00:19] <AmandaC> seconds, I
assume?
L584[14:00:23] <payonel> eys
L585[14:00:25] <payonel> yes*
L586[14:00:38] <payonel> ha, even the
comment is wrong -- defaults to 5
L587[14:00:45] <payonel> oh wait
L588[14:00:47] <payonel> that is
correct
L589[14:00:51] <payonel> if you nil that
value
L590[14:01:14] <AmandaC> haha
L591[14:01:46] <AmandaC> nice, that's
better
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L594[14:13:59] <Michiyo> also Saphire I
added ^.^ to the stats.. but theres 51 in that list now, and only
like 9 ever show up... so meh
L595[14:14:48] <Saphire> Oh
L596[14:14:51] <Saphire> Darn
L597[14:31:52]
<0xc0000000>
should i add more ram to the computer?
L598[14:32:11]
<0xc0000000>
or download more ram
L599[14:37:16]
<Forecaster>
unless it's running out of ram that's not going to do
anything
L600[14:38:58]
<0xc0000000>
ok
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L603[14:45:46]
<0xc0000000>
oc seems too realistic to me lol
L604[14:49:03] <Izaya> too real man
L605[14:49:05] <Izaya> can't deal with the
feelz
L606[14:49:51] <gamax92> it reminds me of
the war ...
L607[14:51:51]
<Dudblockman> Not counting fixing other
people's code... a programmer has never fixed more bugs than they
have made
L608[14:53:20] <gamax92> yep
L609[14:54:39] <gamax92> the fun times of
an automatic dark css generator: don't allow background colors to
be bright (but what about transparent color) okay allow transparent
background colors to be bright (what about border colors in
general)
L610[14:55:31] <gamax92> (what about the
"transparent" color) okay always allow that to be
emit
L611[14:56:35] <gamax92> (btw gradients
exist) okay process gradients and invert their colors too (but now
the gradient style ends up inverted) okay if the gradient has two
colors then swap em around after inverting
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L616[15:21:29] <gamax92> but of course
universal rules don't work for everything and fixing one thing can
break another
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L625[16:09:32] <gamax92> there, border
colors are processed separately
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L634[17:31:37] <AmandaC> %ping
L635[17:31:47] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L639[18:06:01] <AmandaC> Slightly
concerned that MichiBot can't count.
L640[18:06:13] <AmandaC> My client says
10s for that ping
L641[18:07:39] <gamax92> I think I'm going
to go rewrite the entire prop system in my css modifier
L642[18:08:24] <gamax92> array of arrays
of prop names with addition 4 tags of no alpha dark/bright and
alpha dark/bright
L643[18:08:52] <gamax92> and then also
default tags on the outer array
L644[18:09:08] <gamax92> because
javascript lets you put tags in arrays
L645[18:28:47] <Mimiru> AmandaC, it didn't
process your command for ~10 seconds.. so the timer didn't
start
L646[18:28:49] <gamax92> I can't define an
array with string keys in in though :|
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L648[18:44:01] <InariWB> gamax92: ?
L649[18:44:23] <Mimiru> %p
L650[18:44:54] <Mimiru> %ping
L651[18:44:59] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Mimiru 0.55s
L652[18:45:03] <Mimiru> forgot about
that
L653[18:45:05] <InariWB> %ping
L654[18:45:09] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
InariWB 0.24s
L655[18:45:25] <Mimiru> still can't figure
out why %p is broken
L656[18:49:00] <gamax92> InariWB:
what
L657[18:49:55] <InariWB> gamax92: What do
you mean you can't define an array with string keys?
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L659[18:50:44] <gamax92> %js
[3,4,z:6]
L660[18:51:02] <gamax92> no?
L661[18:51:08] <gamax92> well that gives a
"SyntaxError: Unexpected token :"
L662[18:51:27] <AmandaC> gamax92: because
that's an array not a map
L663[18:51:40] <Inari> Right
L664[18:51:45] <Inari> Why not use an
object :D
L665[18:51:46] <gamax92> except that
arrays are just special objects
L666[18:51:52] <MichiBot> <eval>:1:6
Expected comma but found :
L667[18:52:00] <gamax92> wooow
L668[18:52:13] <gamax92> Inari: because
objects don't have a length to them
L669[18:52:25] <AmandaC> That's an
implementation detail, not a feature.
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L671[18:52:33] <AmandaC> You can't use js
arrays like lua tables
L672[18:52:44] <Mimiru> I think something
is wrong with Victory's internet connection...
L673[18:53:31] <Inari> gamax92: Well
L674[18:53:41] <Inari> you can do
Object.keys(yourObj).length
L675[18:53:42] <Inari> :D
L676[18:53:44] <gamax92> AmandaC: no it
very much isn't.
L677[18:56:54] <Mimiru> %test
L678[18:56:55] *
Mimiru sighs
L679[18:56:58] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Success
L680[18:57:03] <Mimiru> %test
L681[18:57:04] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Success
L682[18:58:24] <Mimiru> gitlab running 9GB
RAM used.. stop gitlab, 2.72GB
L683[18:58:27] <Mimiru> ...
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L688[19:16:03] <Mimiru> %js ![]
L689[19:16:09] <MichiBot> false
L690[19:16:11] <Mimiru> ._. ffs
L691[19:16:14] <Mimiru> fine.
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L695[19:18:51] <Michi> %ping
L696[19:18:52] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Michi 0.38s
L697[19:19:02] <Michi> %ping Mimiru
L698[19:19:04] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
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L699[19:19:10] <Michi> %js ![]
L700[19:19:12] <MichiBot> false
L701[19:19:18] <AmandaC> Witchcraft!
L702[19:20:11] <AmandaC> %choose a or
b
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L704[19:20:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: b
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L706[19:20:43] <gamax92> %choose more vids
or do work
L707[19:20:44] <MichiBot> gamax92: do
work
L708[19:21:05] <gamax92> %choose I lied
watch more vids or no seriously go work
L709[19:21:05] <MichiBot> gamax92: no
seriously go work
L710[19:21:12] <gamax92> help
L711[19:21:15] <Mimiru> lol
L712[19:26:01] *
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L713[19:33:31] <AmandaC> [companioncube
goes to jail for using illegal weapons and animal abuse]
L714[19:34:18] <CompanionCube> OK
then
L715[19:34:30] *
CompanionCube fires a bunker buster at AmandaC's
bunker
L716[19:35:11] <CompanionCube>
additionally i'm not in your jurisdiction
L717[19:36:01] <AmandaC> That you know
of
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L719[19:36:43] <CompanionCube> what are
they filled with
L720[19:38:55] <gamax92>
trigonometry
L721[19:41:57] <AmandaC> CompanionCube:
cosmic space dust, mostly
L722[19:42:17] <AmandaC> The occasional
star or two
L723[19:42:33] <CompanionCube> why does
the cache not autoprune
L724[19:42:35] <AmandaC> %choose watch or
listen
L725[19:42:35] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
listen
L726[19:42:49] <AmandaC> %choose passive
or active
L727[19:42:49] <MichiBot> AmandaC:
active
L728[19:44:06] <AmandaC> %choose beep boop
or shiny
L729[19:44:07] <MichiBot> AmandaC: beep
boop
L730[19:44:12] <AmandaC> hrm. nah
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<ZeekDaGeek>
First off... ow.
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<ZeekDaGeek>
Second how do you lower the volume of the beeps in OCEmu lower then
1. D:
L736[20:40:30] <gamax92> inb4 I never
actually used beepVolume
L737[20:42:13] <gamax92> wow I did the
same thing OC initially did
L738[20:43:40] <Izaya> Zeek: try higher
values
L739[20:52:30] <gamax92> @ZeekDaGeek sorry
bout that, fixed in latest version
L740[20:58:26]
<ZeekDaGeek>
Oh yay. I tried turning it down half the value at a time and just
figured it was set to such a high default value or something.
L741[20:58:45]
<ZeekDaGeek>
Glad to know I'm not terrible at config files.
L742[20:59:15] <gamax92> nope just me
being an idiot, audio set to unsigned but I'm filling a signed
buffer
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L744[21:27:17] <AmandaC> %choose listen
beep boop or watch kawaii
L745[21:27:17] <MichiBot> AmandaC: listen
beep boop
L746[21:49:32] <gamax92> oh cool, the new
properties system also unbroke the search bar being
unreadable
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L749[22:15:07] <Izaya>
I'm doing it
wrong
L750[22:15:34] <Izaya> I should keep a
buffer of the screen
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L752[22:45:14] <Izaya> ~w gpu
L754[22:46:57] <Izaya> it's only like 4k
tops
L755[22:55:07] <Izaya> then I can just
diff the current display and only redraw the changed lines
L756[22:55:28] <Izaya> it'd be faster for
everything except scrolling
L757[23:03:38]
<ZeekDaGeek>
@gamax92 is there really no way to change the default path for
OCEmu other then editing the boot.lua
L758[23:04:42]
<ZeekDaGeek>
And the command line option which seems a little odd.
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L761[23:28:28] <gamax92> heh, this github
repo descripton says "Please Star"