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L3[00:21:24] <Kodos> Well, I mean it's not
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L6[01:13:38] <vifino> The meaning of life,
the universe and everything is vore, according to lojban.
L7[01:13:48] <vifino> (vore means 42 in
lojban)
L8[02:16:38] <Izaya> That's mildly
twisted
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L10[03:11:59] <Syrren> only /mildly/?
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L14[03:22:30] <GreaseMonkey> ok something
has something with me on some opinion of some thing related to
something...
L15[03:23:03] <GreaseMonkey> if you
represent all memory in a string it's reasonably fast for reads but
for writes, erm, good luck
L16[03:23:11] <GreaseMonkey> although
disclaimer: i have not measured this
L17[03:24:08] <GreaseMonkey> and RE 42 in
lojban: yes, it's spelt "vore"
L18[03:24:21] <GreaseMonkey> though it's
pronounced more "VOH-regh"
L19[03:25:13] <GreaseMonkey> lojban has
this horrible pronunciation issue where you have "e" and
"ei"... "re" is a 2 digit, "rei" i
think is a hexadecimal E digit
L20[03:26:24] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah, back
to tables vs strings, my suggestion would be to apply some form of
paging scheme + implement a TLB of some sort
L21[03:27:05] <GreaseMonkey> memory pages
that are "in core" are plain tables, memory that's
"out of core" are strings
L22[03:27:16] <GreaseMonkey> "paging
in" means unpacking from a string, "paging out"
means packing back into a string
L23[03:28:05] <GreaseMonkey> S3: ^ so yeah,
for tables vs strings, if you want a nice balance between
performance and memory usage, you can basically do virtual memory
for it
L24[03:29:38] <Syrren> Uh, why would
someone reimplement virtual memory on top of lua though?
L25[03:29:45] <GreaseMonkey> Syrren: to
save on RAM
L26[03:29:50] <GreaseMonkey> also, as
always, optimisation without measurement is the root of a lot of
evil, so measure your stuff
L27[03:30:04] <GreaseMonkey> and don't
forget to slap people who just say "premature optimisation is
the root of all evil"
L28[03:30:15] <GreaseMonkey> that variant
is the root of a lot of evil
L29[03:30:33] <GreaseMonkey> i've had a
coworker quote that variant to me
L30[03:31:03] <GreaseMonkey> dijkstra has
got to be one of the most hideously-misquoted people in comp sci
ever
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L39[05:52:10]
<20kdc>
GreaseMonkey: semi-random, semi-related question: do you believe
there is a link between higher integration and lower resource
usage?
L40[05:53:50]
<20kdc> All
the flexibility needed to detach components from each other seems
to increase resource usage for me, you see... though, I suspect
this can be counteracted by increasing the use of unloadable
"load on function call" libraries and mechanisms.
L41[06:19:41]
<MGR> "
I turn around and $SomeGuy is walking along the row of equipment
hitting buttons. Half the servers are hard powered off. Routers are
rebooting." "I just wanted to see what would
happen." --- Quote 1/3
L42[06:19:57]
<MGR>
"I just wanted to see what would happen" said a person
before pushing the nuclear launch button
L44[06:36:20]
<MGR> A lot
of those were bad ideas
L45[06:36:29]
<MGR> They
increased his surface area, which just made it harder to stand
up
L47[07:02:04] <Saphire> I would back the
fuck out of this
L48[07:03:27] <vifino> GreaseMonkey: hah, i
can answer "I know" to both the string topic and
lojban.
L49[07:03:52] <vifino> i used strings as
memory for a memory backend in my lua ZPU emulator
L50[07:04:07] <vifino> mostly used read
only with a table used as an overlay.
L51[07:04:37] <Izaya> You could emulate a
table of numbers using a string and some metatable magic
L52[07:05:00] <vifino> but why when you
control the way memory read/write happens anyways?
L53[07:05:11] <Izaya> convenient,
mostly
L54[07:05:18] <Izaya> can just
memoryTable[address] = stuff
L55[07:05:30] <ben_mkiv> earthworm jim
xD
L56[07:05:34] <vifino> mem:read(addr) works
for me *shrug*
L57[07:06:11] *
Saphire pokes Izaya
L60[07:08:03] <Izaya> why is kratos
fighting bowser
L61[07:08:06] <Izaya> inb4 misspelled
L62[07:08:41] <Saphire> actually you got
those right
L63[07:09:46] <Izaya> huh
L64[07:10:09] <Izaya> either way, I'm
confused
L65[07:10:51] <Izaya> some SCP stuff
L66[07:10:56] <Izaya> fucking adventure
time
L67[07:10:58] <Izaya> fuck that
L68[07:11:11] <Izaya> is that the
transistor sword on the iron throne?
L69[07:11:41] <Saphire> Yup
L71[07:15:19] <Inari> [14:16:24]
<Saphire> I would back the fuck out of this
L72[07:15:22] <Inari> Whats stopping you
:P
L73[07:15:31] <Saphire> Lack of
money!
L74[07:22:54] <Izaya> ah, bethesda...
L75[07:23:14] <Izaya> cell loaded slowly so
all the NPCs fell through the ground, teleported to the top of the
world, and fell to their deaths
L76[07:30:57]
<MGR> It's
not a bug, it's a feature!
L77[07:36:12] <Inari> TIL poop
transplants
L78[07:38:32]
<MGR> Yes,
those are a thing
L79[07:45:38] <Inari> quite ew :D
L80[07:46:08]
<MGR> They
can be quite effective, soooo
L81[07:46:20]
<MGR>
They'll probably figure out a less gross way to achieve the same
effect eventually
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<MGR> I
hear.... a metronome???
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L87[08:44:05]
<MGR> It
went away, but that was weird
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L89[08:45:20] <Izaya> god fucking
damnit
L90[08:45:34] <Izaya> the old cert for my
site finally expired
L91[08:45:46] <Izaya> ... which was still
on use on my XMPP server
L92[08:45:57] <SubThread> startcom?
L93[08:46:11] <Izaya> letsencrypt
L94[08:46:19] <Izaya> my infrastructure is
weird
L95[08:46:37] <Izaya> and I mean certbot
doesn't like nginx on the same box, there's no way it'd like
prosody on another box
L96[08:46:40] <Izaya> >.>
L97[08:47:34] <Izaya> so I have to manually
copy stuff over
L98[08:47:44] <Izaya> and I tend to forget
to do that because I only renew stuff once every 3 months
L99[08:56:00] *
Michiyo sighs
L100[08:56:31] <Michiyo> I've had a song
stuck in my head for months... well it comes and goes. I can't
remember enough of any part of it to google it, but I remember
enough of it to drive me nuts.
L101[08:57:10]
<MGR> I
haven't had it happen for months, but that's happened to me
before
L102[08:59:02] <Michiyo> all I can
remember is.. it had synths, a heavily distorted male voice.. and a
female voice.. I can't remember *any* lyrics..
L103[09:00:06]
<MGR> It
was.... some sort of music?
L104[09:00:29] <Michiyo> yep.
L105[09:00:33] <Michiyo> in theory
anyway.
L106[09:02:10]
<MGR>
Probably ?
L107[09:02:46] <Michiyo> but ffs I have
the tune running through my head... but I can't get it OUT.
L108[09:03:18] <Michiyo> I need a neural
interface to soundhound or something.
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L110[09:04:40]
<MGR> Have
you tried turning your brain off and then on again?
L111[09:05:09] <SubThread> Cleaning
/var/cache could also help
L113[09:08:24] <Michiyo> O_o
L114[09:08:53]
<MGR>
"Train coming" "Wait" "Train
passed"
L115[09:09:25] <Michiyo> the lights didn't
even start til the train was half way done... ._. lol
L116[09:09:57]
<MGR>
Yep
L117[09:10:25]
<MGR> That
reminds me of when I see people stop on train tracks with traffic
in front of and behind them
L118[09:10:39] <Michiyo> yeah that shit
scares the fuck out of me...
L119[09:10:48]
<MGR> And
then I think, "Are you asking to die?"
L120[09:10:59]
<logan2611>
"Yes"
L121[09:11:06] <Michiyo> I've had people
honk at me because I stopped short of a train track with traffic on
the other side @ a red light
L122[09:11:10]
<logan2611>
Make it look like an accident
L123[09:11:13] <Michiyo> .... fuck you
dude I'm not gonna die.
L124[09:11:25]
<logan2611>
lol
L125[09:11:34]
<MGR>
Michiyo, same
L126[09:11:54]
<MGR> I
actually get weirldy happy by upsetting them
L127[09:11:58] <Michiyo> lol
L128[09:12:03]
<logan2611>
Don't rish your life just because someone wants to be 1 car length
closer to the stoplight
L129[09:12:06]
<logan2611>
risk*
L130[09:12:22] <Michiyo> exactly, wtf is
that gonna gain your happy ass?
L131[09:13:16]
<MGR> It's
like when people tailgate me when I slow down to turn into my
driveway. I start giggling and then slow down even more
L132[09:13:35]
<MGR> And
then turn into my driveway while laughing
L133[09:17:23]
<MGR> I
don't drive in front of tailgaters for an extended period of time,
because people have an unfortunate tendency of road rage +
guns
L134[09:18:09] <Izaya> The wonders of
Australia, nobody has guns so you can slowly reduce the cruise
control setting until you glide to a halt
L135[09:18:11] <Izaya> or they go
round
L136[09:18:13] <Izaya> either way
L137[09:18:52]
<MGR> I
still think it's not wise to intentionally provoke people for an
extended period of time
L139[09:25:47]
<MGR> How'd
you get those pictures of me?!
L140[09:27:56] <Michiyo> %choose convert
to Gogs or stick with gitlab
L141[09:27:56] <MichiBot> Michiyo: convert
to Gogs
L142[09:28:10] <Michiyo> Are you
sure?
L143[09:28:13] <Michiyo> %choose yes or
no
L144[09:28:13] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
no
L145[09:28:16] <Michiyo> ...
L146[09:28:18] <Michiyo> lol
L147[09:28:26]
<MGR>
%choose do it or dew it
L148[09:28:26] <MichiBot> MGR: do it
L149[09:28:45]
<MGR>
Michiyo, MichiBot says you should not water your decision
L150[09:28:45] <MichiBot> Hello
Corded
L151[09:28:59] <Corded> * <MGR>
decides not to get into an endless series of hello's
L152[09:29:19] *
Michiyo shanks @Forecaster
L153[09:30:15] <Corded> * <MGR>
shanks @Forecaster
L154[09:30:19]
<MGR> Why
are we shanking him?
L155[09:31:00] <Michiyo> MichiBot
L156[09:31:08] <Michiyo> ...
L157[09:31:12] <Michiyo> MichiBot
test
L158[09:31:16] <Michiyo> wtf.. lol
L159[09:32:01]
<MGR> Hi
MichiBot
L160[09:32:01] <MichiBot> Hello
Corded
L161[09:32:10]
<MGR> Really
MichiBot?
L162[09:32:11] <MichiBot> Corded: What?
D:
L163[09:32:39] *
Michiyo shrugs goes back to designing Mjolnir helmet
electronics.
L164[09:32:53]
<MGR> The
what now?
L166[09:33:37] <Michiyo> but with..
electronics, and for wearing.
L167[09:35:05]
<MGR>
Huh
L168[09:36:56] <Michiyo> it goes with...
an entire suit, but I'm just doing the electronics for the helmet
ATM
L170[09:38:23]
<MGR> What
do the electronics do?
L171[09:39:37]
<Dudblockman> They control the flow of
electrons along a voltage gradient
L172[09:39:50]
<MGR> Ha
ha
L173[09:40:20] <Michiyo> Lighting control,
fan control for keeping the wearer cool, audio in/out, connection
to a chest audio system for better audio quality when worn with the
chest piece. Later revisions will have voice commands I can do that
NOW I just don't have the hardware ready for the launch next
month
L174[09:40:46]
<MGR> That's
pretty cool
L175[09:41:15]
<Dudblockman> That sounds like it controls
the flow of electrons along a voltage gradient
L176[09:41:33]
<Dudblockman> So I was right
L177[09:41:43]
<MGR>
Yes...
L178[09:41:59] <Michiyo> most of the
advanced stuff is going to be done via a Pi, just like I said, I
don't have everything ready..
L179[09:42:15] <Michiyo> when I move to
Oregon next year we're going to redo it, and I'm excited as
fuck.
L180[09:42:24]
<MGR> You're
moving?
L181[09:42:27] <Michiyo> Yes
L182[09:42:31] <Michiyo> March-ish
L183[09:42:37]
<MGR>
Congratulations
L184[09:42:46]
<MGR> What
will RadioShack do without you/
L185[09:42:48]
<MGR>
?*
L186[09:42:48] <Michiyo> I want as far
away from Arkansas as possible.
L187[09:42:55] <Michiyo> it'll likely
close.
L188[09:43:05]
<Dudblockman> Ouch
L189[09:43:06]
<MGR> Like
so many others....
L190[09:43:25] <Michiyo> I doubt the owner
will even TRY to hire anyone... he's not in almost a year
now.
L191[09:43:39]
<MGR>
Probably
L192[09:44:42]
<Dudblockman> Where else will I get my
doohickies and doodads to make hobby circuits?
L193[09:44:55]
<MGR>
Amazon
L194[09:44:56] <Michiyo> Well, you're not
getting them from *me* anyway
L195[09:45:02] <Michiyo> so... where
you're getting them from now?
L196[09:45:45]
<Dudblockman> I was sad when our local
radioshack died
L197[09:46:21]
<Dudblockman> I was a customer there
L198[09:46:33]
<Dudblockman> There were dozens of
us!
L199[09:46:45]
<Dudblockman> Maybe that's an
overstatement
L200[09:47:05]
<Dudblockman> Like... 3, maybe 4?
L201[09:48:15]
<MGR> My
local radioshack died years ago, I think
L202[09:48:26]
<MGR> I
never went in it, because I'm not really that type
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L204[09:55:56] <Michiyo> Ahh, sor @MGR is
why RadioShack went under.
L205[09:56:00] <Michiyo> s/sor/so/
L206[09:56:00] <MichiBot> <Michiyo>
Ahh, so @MGR is why RadioShack went under.
L207[09:56:14]
<MGR> Yep,
it was all me
L208[09:56:43]
<MGR> The
store didn't really appeal to me, so I singlehandedly took down the
company
L209[10:03:56] <Michiyo> bastard
L210[10:04:45] <gamax92> Michiyo: meet
payonel in Oregon
L211[10:05:30] <Michiyo> gamax92, that's
the plan.
L212[10:10:48] <Izaya> welp
L213[10:10:51] <Izaya> this is
depressing
L215[10:10:54] <MichiBot>
Lenovo
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L216[10:11:21] <Izaya> It has the old
keyboard, but beyond that it's still the mediocre new lenovo
shit
L217[10:11:27] <Izaya> Backlit keyboard...
eugh
L218[10:11:59]
<MGR> I saw
an article about that
L219[10:12:24] <Izaya> They didn't even
have the proper thinklight and just went with a shitty keyboard
backlight
L220[10:12:36] *
Izaya grumbles
L221[10:12:50] <Izaya> Guess modding my
600X is still on the table
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L223[10:23:56]
<MGR> Bleh,
I'm tired
L224[10:41:09] <Syrren>
>Anniversary Edition thinkpad actually
released
L225[10:41:12] <Syrren> EEEeeeee...
L226[10:41:29] *
Syrren maintains the illusion that it's not shitty for a while
longer
L227[10:41:56] <Izaya> Enjoy it for a
while
L228[10:41:58] <Izaya> then weep I
guess
L229[10:42:30] <Syrren> *goes to lenovo
site* wait what the fuck where is the buy button
L230[10:44:40] <Syrren> ...wait. did they
seriously do a US-only release
L231[10:44:44] <Syrren> BASTARDS.
L232[10:45:02] <Izaya> I think it's
temporary
L233[10:47:03] <Syrren> no way to exclude
the dGPU either. wat.
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L235[10:48:37]
<MGR> Why
wouldn't you want the dGPU?
L236[10:48:54] <Syrren> battery life
L237[10:49:06]
<MGR> Nvidia
Optimus powers it down when not used
L238[10:49:16]
<MGR> Unless
you're gaming or whatever, you use the iGPU
L239[10:49:19] <Syrren> I got the
impression that it was a dGPU-only box
L240[10:49:26]
<MGR> Uh,
let me check
L241[10:49:34] <Izaya> Don't think you can
get dGPU-only laptops
L242[10:49:38] <Izaya> short of P series
ones anyway
L243[10:49:45] <Izaya> because xeons don't
have integrated graphics
L244[10:49:51] <Syrren> *is currently
using a dGPU-only laptop*
L245[10:50:06]
<MGR> The
CPU does have an iGPU, so unless Lenovo shut it off (I haven't seen
that before), then it should have it
L246[10:50:06] <Syrren> not a lenovo one
though
L247[10:50:07] <Izaya> How recent?
L248[10:50:25] <Syrren> very. got it this
year for work
L249[10:50:27]
<MGR> Izaya,
some Xeons have integrated graphics
L250[10:50:32] <Izaya> My T400 only has
shitty nVidia graphics but no- huh
L251[10:51:37] <Syrren> socketed i7-7700K,
1070, 4 RAM slots, 2 2.5" slots, 2 M.2 slots
L252[10:51:53] <Syrren> I haven't dared to
run it on battery for obvious reasons
L253[10:51:59]
<MGR>
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah
L254[10:52:06]
<MGR> I
wouldn't consider that to be a normal laptop
L255[10:52:22] <Syrren> it's a 15.6"
monstrosity
L256[10:52:31]
<MGR> It
probably doesn't have Optimus due to the desktop CPU
L257[10:52:36]
<MGR> What's
the brand?
L258[10:52:40] <Syrren> it doesn't have
optimus because pointless G-Sync display
L259[10:52:50] <Syrren> Metabox (Clevo
rebranded)
L260[10:52:57]
<MGR> You
can have Optimus and G-Sync, I think
L261[10:53:01]
<MGR> I
figured it was a Clevo
L262[10:53:15]
<MGR>
They're one of the few DTR builders
L263[10:53:18] <Izaya> Sounds like a nice
box
L264[10:53:26] <Syrren> according to
metabox you can't because optimus connects the dGPU via the iGPU
and you need a direct connection for G-Sync
L265[10:53:26]
<MGR>
^
L266[10:53:36]
<MGR>
Ahhhhhhhh
L267[10:53:45] <Syrren> yeah. the only
real downside is if you actually push it to the limit,
VROOOOOOOOOM
L268[10:53:46]
<MGR> Good
to know
L269[10:54:01] <Syrren> two fuckhuge fans
blowing out the back to keep it all at a sane temperature
L270[10:54:31] <Izaya> if you attached
wings and wheels to it would it fly while under load?
L271[10:54:38] <Syrren> prooobably
not
L272[10:54:42] <Izaya> aw :<
L273[10:54:46] <Syrren> but it's probably
dangerous to use "on lap"
L274[10:55:10]
<MGR> Have
you tried overclocking? *eyebrow waggling intensifies*
L275[10:55:26] <Syrren> I don't dare...
it's still in warranty
L276[10:55:27] <Izaya> at work we have
these old massive "desktop replacement" laptops
L277[10:55:32] <Syrren> and work paid for
it
L278[10:55:52] <Izaya> 19" 1440x900
displays, desktop Core 2 Duos, midrange 2xx GeForce cards
L279[10:55:54] <Syrren> I'm just imagining
my boss' face when I say "I'll need you to buy me another
because I overclocked it and it blew up"
L280[10:55:58] <Izaya> They get about 10
minutes of battery
L281[10:56:51] <Syrren>
>no displayport output on thinkpad 25
L282[10:56:54] *
Syrren is so disappoint
L283[10:57:00]
<MGR>
Syrren, but exploding laptops ?
L284[10:57:10]
<MGR> Maybe
you can OC it so much it ignites the lithium-ion battery!
L285[10:57:10] <Izaya> even my T420 has
displayport
L286[10:57:12]
<MGR> THOSE
ARE FUN
L287[10:57:13] <Izaya> ???
L288[10:57:25] <Syrren> 25 only has hdmi
(and thunderbolt)
L289[10:57:30] <Izaya> y'know the port
selection on the 2012-ish ones confuses me
L290[10:57:35] <Izaya> you have
DisplayPort... and VGA.
L291[10:57:48] <Syrren> displayport for
the new stuff, VGA for the Ye Olde Projector at work
L292[10:58:09] <Izaya> It just seems funny
to have the fancy newest and the 4th oldest
L293[10:58:17] <Syrren> well yeah, but
it's a business laptop
L294[10:58:29]
<MGR>
Syrren, Thunderbolt carries DP
L295[10:58:35] <Syrren> with those two
ports -- plus a tiny DP-HDMI adapter -- I can plug my T420 in just
about anywhere
L296[10:58:51] <Izaya> I mean, if mine
didn't have DP I could plug it in anywhere anyway
L297[10:58:54] <Izaya> because everything
has VGA
L298[10:59:00]
<MGR> Not
anymore
L299[10:59:04] <Izaya> at least,
everything here
L300[10:59:07] <Syrren> at uni some tute
rooms have broken VGA inputs
L301[10:59:16] <Syrren> they usually have
VGA & HDMI, some have VGA, HDMI and dP
L302[10:59:47] <Syrren> at least *one* of
them will work, but I can't rely on any particular connector
working in all rooms
L303[11:00:10] <Izaya> sounds like
fun
L304[11:00:15]
<MGR> My
monitor has HDMI and DP
L305[11:00:20] <Izaya> all the projectors
at work are just VGA
L306[11:00:26] <Izaya> some of the newer
monitors have DVI
L307[11:00:37] <Syrren> we have this fancy
integrated projector setup thing in most rooms
L308[11:00:39] <Izaya> which is okay
enough because HDMI -> DVI is passive
L309[11:00:56] <Syrren> control panel to
drive the motorized screen things and switch inputs (including the
built-in crapdesktop)
L310[11:01:22] <Syrren> it's quite
convenient, but presumably prone to fucking up in amusing
ways
L311[11:01:57] <Izaya> Complexity
increases chances of something going wrong, after all
L312[11:02:00] <Syrren> exactly
L313[11:02:21] <Syrren> I bet they use the
projector's HDMI input and converters somewhere
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L316[11:45:32] <Syrren> Izaya: LOL!
L317[11:46:27] <Izaya> I mean, it's a damn
good hint
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L321[11:52:07]
<MGR> I want
one of these
L323[11:58:24]
<MGR>
"I will explain to my Legions of Terror that guns are ranged
weapons and swords are not. Anyone who attempts to throw a sword at
the hero or club him with a gun will be summarily executed."
--- Quote 2/3
L324[12:01:20] <Temia> And this is why the
Garlean empire gives their officers gunblades. Get you a legion
that can do both
L325[12:02:14]
<MGR> I
don't think those are practical..... They definitely sound cool
though
L326[12:02:19]
<MGR> Maybe
for the dress uniforms
L327[12:02:37] <Izaya> Why aren't they
practical?
L328[12:02:57] <Izaya> If you've got a
rifle the stock can double as a hilt
L329[12:03:00]
<MGR> I read
an article on them, and I don't think the gun part works well
L330[12:03:03]
<MGR> Let me
look it up
L331[12:03:53]
<MGR>
"use it as a sword, and it's badly unbalanced, use it as a
pistol and you've got this long, heavy weight throwing off your
aim."
L332[12:04:10] <Izaya> the pistol part is
where you're doing it wrong
L333[12:04:12] <Izaya> needs to be a
rifle
L334[12:04:39] <Izaya> also wear gloves
with metal mesh woven into the palm
L335[12:05:40]
<MGR>
Wouldn't that just be a rifle+bayonet?
L336[12:05:54] <Izaya> No, you have the
blade all the way along
L337[12:06:23]
<MGR> Yeah,
but it is still heavy, and you'd have to train a lot more to use
it
L338[12:06:43] <Izaya> It'd be a more
practical design than most gunswords though
L339[12:07:19]
<MGR> That's
not a high bar
L340[12:07:41] *
Izaya shrugs
L341[12:08:07]
<MGR>
Definitely cool, which is why they would be part of the dress
uniform and for ceremonial occasions
L343[12:09:37] <Izaya> I heard a lot of
them are malware
L344[12:09:41]
<MGR> I had
an app with one button, which played the Darth Vader
'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO' from SW Episode 3, that crashed every time I
launched it the first time
L345[12:09:52]
<MGR> My
current phone has a flashlight app built in
L346[12:09:54] <Izaya> Seems a lot safer
to just use the built-in flashlight thing
L347[12:10:01] <Izaya> (Is that a thing on
stock Android?)
L348[12:10:13] <Izaya>
s/flashlight/torch/
L349[12:10:14] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
Seems a lot safer to just use the built-in torch thing
L350[12:10:16] <Izaya> because it doesn't
flash
L351[12:10:21]
<Forecaster>
mine has a button in the toolbar that turns on the light
L352[12:10:45]
<MGR>
@Forecaster same
L353[12:10:52]
<Forecaster>
my S8
L354[12:10:56]
<Forecaster>
as did my S6
L355[12:11:39] <Izaya> I *think* my G3 had
a thing in the settings tray
L356[12:11:47] <Izaya> But I've been using
CM13 so long I forget
L357[12:12:20]
<MGR> My S5
didn't
L358[12:12:27]
<MGR> But my
S8 does ?
L359[12:12:45]
<MGR>
@Forecaster Wait, did you upgrade to the S8 because I did? Because
I last remember you with an S5
L360[12:13:12] <Izaya> I miss Android 4,
it looked better than the material design BS and it didn't have a
bunch of stupid restrictions >.>
L361[12:13:15]
<Forecaster>
I've never had an S5
L362[12:13:19]
<logan2611>
Stock android has a flashlight in the status bar
L363[12:13:29]
<logan2611>
or quickbar
L364[12:13:32]
<logan2611>
whatever its called
L365[12:13:38]
<Forecaster>
I had an S6, then I upgraded to an S8, probably before you
did
L366[12:14:09]
<MGR>
@Forecaster I could have sworn you had an S5......
L367[12:14:36]
<Forecaster>
you would swear on a lie
L368[12:14:53]
<logan2611>
kek
L369[12:15:28]
<MGR>
Huh
L370[12:15:47] *
Izaya wonders if he should get the fire extinguisher
L371[12:16:05]
<MGR>
Why?
L373[12:26:32]
<MGR>
"If I'm sitting in my camp, hear a twig snap, start to
investigate, then encounter a small woodland creature, I will send
out some scouts anyway just to be on the safe side. (If they
disappear into the foliage, I will not send out another patrol; I
will break out the napalm.)" --- Quote 3/3
L374[12:27:17] <Izaya> ah yes, murder all
those woodland creatures
L375[12:27:50]
<MGR> If
they take out a group of my scouts, they're obviously
dangerous
L376[12:28:34]
<Forecaster>
or the scouts are really incompetent
L377[12:28:39]
<MGR>
Exactly
L378[12:28:45]
<MGR> In
both cases, I don't lose much
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L380[12:29:15]
<MGR>
However, I prefer to invest in good training, to reduce the number
of incompetent scouts, soldiers, etc.
L382[12:42:41] <Michiyo> blargh
L383[12:43:59]
<Forecaster>
vlargh
L384[12:44:55]
<MGR>
wlargh
L386[12:47:03] <Skye> Izaya, what protocol
is that? copper?
L387[12:47:36] <Izaya> Skye: yeah, it's
what I shove into my relib implementation to get packets back
out
L388[12:47:54] <Izaya> :D
L389[12:47:59] <Skye> I see
L390[12:49:29] <Izaya> currently
implementing packet ordering
L391[12:49:34] <Izaya> as to comply with
the new spec
L392[12:50:01] *
Skye blinks
L393[12:50:05] <Skye> packet
ordering?
L394[12:50:09] <Izaya> yeah
L396[12:52:41] <Skye> how much does it
break existing systems, and I wonder if it allows mixed operation
(some packets don't need to be ordered, while others do...)
L397[12:52:52] <Izaya> it doesn't break
exisiting systems
L398[12:52:58] <Skye> that's good to
know
L399[12:53:07] <Izaya> it's just saying
"this is the recommended way of making sure packets are
ordered"
L400[12:53:25] <Izaya> 'course you'll need
something that implements it to talk to something else using it but
\o/
L401[12:54:32] <Skye> I see
L402[12:54:45] <Skye> nice to have I
guess
L403[12:54:52] <Skye> and I bet it was
designed to break NAT too
L404[12:55:25] <Izaya> (you can still use
unordered packets between devices that only one side implements
ordering)
L405[12:55:33] <Izaya> (you can't
connect() to them though)
L406[12:56:28] <Skye> Izaya, could one mix
ordered and unordered data from the same port in the same
direction? >:D
L407[12:56:38] <Izaya> no
L408[12:56:58] <Izaya> reason being is
that they're the same format and stuff
L409[12:57:06] <Izaya> the sender just
waits for an ack before sending the next
L410[12:58:06] <Izaya> (so now I'm
rewriting my copper implementation to support that sanely and not
use like 20 layers of nesting)
L412[12:58:50] <Skye> Izaya, could one
hack together a system where packets are checked by external code
before being put into a queue?
L413[12:59:06] <Izaya> checked by external
code?
L414[12:59:32] <Izaya> like, a filter
between receiving and parsing?
L415[13:00:32] <Skye> Izaya, this is only
theoretical, but... if a packet was received, there could be an
indication (user specific) for "order matters" and
"order doesn't matter". If you allow a function to check
that...
L416[13:01:23] <Izaya> inb4 user-definable
firewall created by inserting a function between receiving and
parsing
L417[13:01:43] <Skye> that'd also be
interesting
L418[13:01:49] <Skye> but by user I
mean... application
L419[13:02:23] <Izaya> You could just use
unordered reliable packets and do ordering on the application
side
L420[13:02:52] <Skye> Izaya, I guess, but
then you lose the opimisation of (a) having the protocol do the
hard work for you
L421[13:03:01] <Skye> there is no
(b)
L422[13:03:15] <Izaya> (b) is here as
redundancy
L423[13:04:06] <Skye> as in... I want the
right to say "yeah that packet isn't ordered, I'll have it
now, but keep on waiting for the rest please"
L424[13:05:07]
<20kdc> You
can send an unordered packet while ordered packets are waiting. All
packets are given to the receiving application in order of
reception - acknowledgement is what is used to keep ordered packets
in order,
L425[13:05:14]
<20kdc> and
this is managed by the sender.
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L427[13:09:15] <Izaya> oh shit
L428[13:09:20] <Izaya> it went from 0401
to 0525
L429[13:09:23] <Izaya> erm
L430[13:09:27] <Izaya> I should probably
like
L431[13:09:29] <Izaya> sleep
L432[13:09:48]
<20kdc>
Skye: Is that sufficient?
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L434[13:12:31] <Izaya> yeah okay I'm
ohh
L435[13:12:34] <Izaya> off
L436[13:12:35] <Izaya> jesus
L437[13:12:46] <Izaya> hopefully I'll
understand what I wrote when I wake up
L438[13:15:26] <Skye> @20kdc, I see, so
ordering is managed by the sender. A clever trick, seems
useful.
L439[13:16:24]
<20kdc>
There is the disadvantage that relying on acknowledgement makes
these packets about half the speed of unordered packets,
though.
L440[13:16:41] <Skye> I see
L441[13:16:52] <Skye> so I guess manual
methods are reccomended if you need performance
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L444[13:56:02] <AmandaC> Is it possible to
pop an EEPRom out of a microcontroller / drone without a)
disassembling it or b) pushing a new one in?
L445[13:56:46]
<Forecaster>
no
L446[13:56:49] <AmandaC> damn
L447[14:08:06]
<Kodos> I
thought you could craft one to get the EEPROM out of it
L448[14:08:20]
<Ben> what
kodos said
L449[14:08:39]
<Ben> just
put the drone/whatever in craftinggrid with a new eeprom and you
get the old one back
L450[14:09:02]
<Kodos> No I
mean I thought you could just crafted to get one out without using
a new one
L451[14:12:47]
<Forecaster>
oh yeah, that might work
L452[14:18:41]
<DaMachinator> If a block from another mod
has ComputerCraft integration, is there a way to use it with
OpenComputers instead?
L453[14:19:21]
<Forecaster>
I don't think so
L454[14:27:21]
<Dudblockman> Wait... you can craft a drone
to remove the eeprom?
L455[14:27:46]
<Dudblockman> I have been just hotswapping
the entire time @_@
L456[14:30:03] <AmandaC> @Kodos Doesn't
seem so?
L457[14:31:36]
<Dudblockman> Or... I'm not crazy
L458[14:31:49]
<Dudblockman> That's good too
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L460[14:32:05] <rdm_port> Hi
L461[14:32:07]
<Forecaster>
or maybe you are crazy, you just don't know it!
L462[14:32:12]
<Forecaster>
%hello
L463[14:32:12] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome
to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your
questions directly (dont ask to ask) and provide error/code
examples! (Use pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont
mind the random conversation you might have walked into.
L464[14:34:57]
<Dudblockman> Given I went back to playing
1.7.10 and thaumcraft
L465[14:35:04]
<Dudblockman> I'm not crazy
L466[14:35:09]
<Dudblockman> It's just warp
L467[14:36:02] <rdm_port> Hey there is
people doing tech thingy here
L468[14:36:03] <rdm_port> good
L469[14:36:05] <rdm_port> finally
L470[14:36:22] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> stops working on the death ray
L471[14:36:27]
<Forecaster>
what, no...
L472[14:36:34] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> puts a carpet on top of it
L473[14:37:42] <Izaya> :|
L474[14:37:58] <Izaya> so MS released edge
for iOS and Android using webkit and blink respectively
L475[14:38:10] <Izaya> but the desktop
version is still using the edge engine
L476[14:38:14] <Izaya> how
disappointing
L477[14:38:38]
<Forecaster>
this does not affect me in any way whatsoever :P
L478[14:38:47]
<Forecaster>
\o/
L479[14:38:56] <Izaya> nor me
L480[14:39:17] <Izaya> I'm just annoyed
they keep forcing everyone to support their broken BS
L481[14:39:23]
<Forecaster>
thus I have no strong feelings one way or the other
L482[14:39:41] <Izaya> though I guess only
like 10 people use edge so \o/
L483[14:40:00]
<Forecaster>
I used it ealier this week
L484[14:40:03]
<Forecaster>
to download chrome
L485[14:40:20] <Izaya> I used it once to
download FF
L486[14:41:27] <rdm_port> never used
it
L487[14:42:51] <ds84182> new laptop I got
a couple of months ago had firefox and edge installed, so I used
firefox to download chrome :P
L488[14:43:30] <Izaya> hey can you disable
edge on W10 like you can IE on W7?
L489[14:44:05]
<Forecaster>
dunno, I haven't bothered
L490[14:44:48] <rdm_port> There's probably
a way but I did not bothered neither
L491[14:45:36] <Izaya> fortunately I don't
have a W10 box to test on so
L492[14:45:50] <rdm_port> still on W7
?
L493[14:46:55] <ds84182> Why bother
disabling it tbh, I'm not going to break a vanilla install of
Windows (again)
L494[15:01:49] <Izaya> no reason to
upgrade
L495[15:04:58] <Inari> Edge is handy to
have installed if you do webdev ;)
L496[15:07:56] <payonel> o/
L497[15:11:34] <Inari> Ohi
L498[15:12:20]
<Forecaster>
it is?
L499[15:12:40]
<Forecaster>
I never use Edge when doing webdev
L500[15:14:55] <Inari> I mean
L501[15:15:07] <Inari> If you want to
guarante it works on Edge, yes
L502[15:15:46]
<Forecaster>
not worth the effort :P
L503[15:16:06] <Inari> Eh, if I get money
for it, my clients probably want it to work there
L505[15:18:03] <MichiBot>
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L506[15:18:39] <CompanionCube> ooh, the
new one's out?
L507[15:19:10] <Inari> Wonder if the
colour/lighting is better than in the last one
L508[15:20:05] *
CompanionCube likes Duke Amiel
L509[15:20:36] <Izaya> tvvats
L511[15:23:24] <MichiBot>
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L512[15:24:09] <Izaya> nah it's
perfect
L513[15:25:33] <CompanionCube> the bunny
hop is gold
L514[15:29:18] <Inari> "Code Segment
1 — Apologies for the ODT format, but PDF removed newlines and
tabs." rigth
L515[15:29:22] <Inari> What
about.................. .txt?
L516[15:29:38] *
CompanionCube also likes the regular jimquistions
L517[15:29:55] <Inari> Or since it's ruby,
.rb
L518[15:46:57] <Temia> I've actually had
instructors who wanted assignments sent as both pdf and
plaintext.
L519[15:47:04] <Temia> I was just
"what, come on"
L520[15:47:53] <Inari> xD
L521[15:48:24] <Inari> I would have
expected minotaurs to take more magic than tech courses
L522[15:49:14] <Izaya> Temia:
\lstlisting{file.txt}
L523[15:49:44] <Temia> But Inari, we have
ingrained pathfinding algorithms
L524[15:50:00] <Izaya> put that into LaTeX
and it'll get you a PDF with the contents of the text file :3
L525[15:52:47] <Michiyo> lol Temia
L526[15:53:40] <Temia> Izaya: Yeah, I
know. The instructor wanted everyone to use the same online
conversion tool which is just bleh :l
L527[15:53:50] <Izaya> :|
L529[15:55:49] <Vexatos> I have yet to
actually need LaTeX for an assignment
L530[15:56:36] <Izaya> I don't think I've
ever *needed* it but it's the nicest way to do documents for
me
L531[15:56:58] <Vexatos> And I am studying
one of the few things that should be needing LaTeX ._.
L532[15:57:11] <Corded> *
<Forecaster> almost generated 100 title cards for a series
that only has 9 episodes
L533[15:57:15] <Vexatos> But, like,
LibreOffice exists and is sooooooooooooo much more convenient
,__,
L534[15:58:12] <Izaya> libreoffice doesn't
have vim keybinds, but vim has vim keybinds :^)
L535[15:58:36] <Vexatos> Who needs vim
keybinds when you know libreoffice keybinds (and write macros for
the things that don't have keybinds)
L536[15:58:41] <Vexatos> ;_;
L537[15:59:00] <Izaya> people like me that
edit all text in vim because it's good at it
L538[15:59:09] <Vexatos> How to scientific
reports: Learn all the unicode, learn all the fancy formatting,
survive without LaTeX for some reason
L539[15:59:10] <Izaya> and also
libreoffice is like 100M while vim is like 10 tops
L540[15:59:40] <Izaya> (while
running)
L541[15:59:48] <Izaya> (on disk it's
sillier IIRC)
L542[16:00:04] <Izaya> though, I guess you
have to include the LaTeX stuff if we're talking documents
L543[16:00:12] <Izaya> and I think that's
a few GB for texlive-most
L544[16:00:14] <Izaya> so...
L545[16:00:15] *
Izaya shrugs
L546[16:00:18] <Izaya> still smaller than
MS office
L547[16:00:23] <Vexatos> I have
texlive-literallyeverything
L548[16:00:47] <Vexatos> LibreOffice has a
very good formula editor, and worst case I can embed LaTeX in odt
files ,_,
L549[16:01:10] <Izaya> does LO support
embedding actual latex?
L550[16:01:15] <Vexatos> yes
L551[16:01:18] <Izaya> huh
L552[16:01:21] <Izaya> that's kinda
cool
L553[16:01:39] <Vexatos> the formula
editor already is pretty close to latex in terms of what _I_ need
it to do
L554[16:01:43] <Vexatos> but there also is
legit embed latex
L556[16:02:41]
<Forecaster>
`The upload has failed` x9
L557[16:02:44]
<Forecaster>
thanks youtube...
L558[16:03:15]
<Forecaster>
that's what I get for adding 9 uploads at once I guess
L559[16:03:19] <Izaya> ah it generates
stuff to embed using LaTeX
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L561[16:03:21] <Izaya> nice
L562[16:03:39] <Vexatos> It essentially
works the same as the built-in formula editor
L563[16:03:51] <Vexatos> except you write
LaTeX instead of whatever the heck custom thing the formula thing
uses
L564[16:03:55] <Izaya> I've never used any
of the advanced LO features
L565[16:04:09] <Izaya> I used it for like
6 months in class then decided to learn LaTeX
L567[16:04:21] <Vexatos> well uuh
L568[16:04:27] <Vexatos> It's much faster
than writin LaTeX >_>
L569[16:04:30] *
CompanionCube hasn't used latex in a good while
L570[16:04:32] <Vexatos> in 90% of
cases
L571[16:04:48] *
Izaya has a lot of macros set up that allow writing LaTeX as fast
as anyone can handwrite
L572[16:05:17] <Izaya> but tbh I end up
writing it manually most of the time because it's still faster than
anyone writes
L573[16:05:18] <Vexatos> My handwriting is
slow :P
L574[16:05:31] <CompanionCube> Izaya: do
you publish these
L575[16:05:43] <Izaya> mine is kinda fast
but unreadable
L576[16:05:47] <Izaya> CompanionCube: at
present, no
L577[16:05:56] <Izaya> they're a bunch of
horrid vimscript hacks
L578[16:06:19] <CompanionCube> i thought
you meant latex macros
L579[16:06:29] <Izaya> oh no vim
macros
L581[16:07:55]
<Forecaster>
except for some reason the number is much smaller in the first
one...
L583[16:09:27] <Vexatos> what a pretty
font
L584[16:10:27]
<Forecaster>
it's the same font as in the actual logo
L585[16:10:35] <Vexatos> I am aware
L586[16:10:41] <Vexatos> it's a pretty
font nonetheless ._.
L587[16:10:56] <Vexatos> also yay 1.5D
puzzle games :⁾
L588[16:12:31]
<Forecaster>
oh, it's just 9 episodes *and* they're just 15m each
L589[16:12:40]
<Forecaster>
except the final one
L590[16:12:46] <Vexatos> Well it's also a
small game ._.
L591[16:12:59] <Vexatos> I expected it to
be much shorter ._.
L592[16:13:12]
<Forecaster>
it was about what I expected
L593[16:13:27]
<Forecaster>
though I could have extended it looking for all the secret
stars
L594[16:21:05] <Gavle> ~w event
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L601[17:11:10] <BILLPC2684> hey :3
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L605[17:22:41]
zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L606[17:24:54] <BILLPC2684> hey vexatos
:3
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L609[18:02:34] <digital_> um... ok I don't
know why but it added an underscore to my name
L610[18:02:41] <digital_> what ever.
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L612[18:03:27] <digital_> so can someone
help me with mod making. I am really new to it and I don't
understand this error.
L613[18:04:35] <DeGariless> looks like
there are 2 people in the room with the username
"digital"
L614[18:04:43] <digital_> same guy
L615[18:04:48] <digital_> different
time.
L616[18:04:49] <DeGariless> you were the
2nd one so you got an underscore
L617[18:05:02] <digital_> I was trying to
reconnect.
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L621[18:15:46] <BILLPC2684> oh hey digial
:3
L622[18:17:42] <BILLPC2684> degariless
basicly it's like this connection0 stops, connection1 starts,
connects, joins, connection0 drops connection from server
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L624[18:36:05] <digital_> just realized
where connection0 was
L625[18:36:12] <digital_> .nick
digital
L626[18:36:29] <digital_> nope still in
use somewhere.
L627[18:36:33] <digital_> strange.
L629[18:37:34] <Mimiru> :P
L630[18:37:42] <digital_> it doesn't
really matter.
L631[18:37:51] <digital_> I am the same
person so....
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L633[18:38:18] ***
digital_ is now known as digital
L634[18:38:23] <digital> there it goes
XD
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L641[20:14:08] <BILLPC2684> RIP
L642[20:14:19] <BILLPC2684> so enyone
still onlein?
L643[20:14:24] <BILLPC2684> *online?
L644[20:14:43] <BILLPC2684> lol OC
keyboard upload byte lag spike
L645[20:17:25] <CompanionCube> yo
L646[20:17:31] <gamax92> no
L647[20:23:02] <BILLPC2684> XD
L648[20:51:36] <AmandaC> %tell Inari
Liiisstteeennn tooooo my yowllllllll~~~ (enjoying the anime.
:P)
L649[20:51:36] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Inari
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L652[21:03:25] <BILLPC2684> woops
L653[21:03:32] <BILLPC2684> had a little
power outage XD
L654[21:03:47] <BILLPC2684> the assembler
took all the power
L655[21:10:26] <AmandaC> They like to do
that
L656[21:11:05] <AmandaC> Though, that's
greatly eclipsed by the quarry link in my base
L657[21:15:24] <BILLPC2684> yah i had to
hard wire my BC power cable to it XD
L658[21:15:27] <BILLPC2684> *pipe
L659[21:17:10] <BILLPC2684> also i'm kinda
glad tablets don't have EMC value in ProjectE XD (cuz don't want to
shift left click on it when in the alchemy table)
L660[21:25:07] <BILLPC2684> um hey
question does enyone know a how to make a program that can render
ray caster of computronics' camera?
L661[21:26:27] <BILLPC2684> or is it just
a x,y loop and grab every pixel that it sees?
L662[21:37:57]
<Kodos>
MineOS had a nice camera app
L663[21:38:04]
<Kodos>
Albeit in Russian I think
L664[21:42:12] <BILLPC2684> wasn't mineos
broken?
L665[21:44:02] <BILLPC2684> aww BS it
can't be installed on the table...
L666[21:44:05] <BILLPC2684> *tablet
L667[21:45:26] <BILLPC2684> ooh
L669[21:48:33] <AmandaC> %choose early to
bed early to insane dreams or watch more
L670[21:48:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: early
to bed early to insane dreams
L671[21:48:47] <AmandaC> Night nerds
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L673[21:49:38] <SkyTime13> Can someone
write me a small countdown timer? I'm new to this.
L674[21:49:58] <SkyTime13> It's been at
least a few months since I've used OC, and that was on
1.7.10.
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L676[21:55:54] <SkyTime13> Does
event.timer count down or up?
L677[21:56:00]
<Kodos> ~w
event
L679[21:56:35] <SkyTime13> That doesn't
say whether event.timer counts up or down.
L680[21:56:57] <SkyTime13> I have the page
open on my secondary monitor.
L681[21:57:33] <SkyTime13> I literally
just want a simple timer. So: Does event.timer count down, or
up?
L682[21:57:45] <Mimiru> it doesn't
"count" it "waits"
L683[21:58:06] <SkyTime13> Oh. Then it's
literally useless for what I need.
L684[21:58:09] <Mimiru> event.timer(5,
myFunc) calls myFunc every 5 seconds
L685[21:58:49] <SkyTime13> Are there any
APIs in OC that can be used to make a simple countdown
program?
L686[21:58:50] <Mimiru> event.timer(1,
myFunc,10) calls myFunc every 1 second, 10 times
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L688[21:59:14] <SkyTime13> Kind of like
'explode' from Computronics but without the computer
exploding.
L689[21:59:43] <Mimiru> err, sorry
event.timer 5, myFunc) would wait 5 seconds and call myFunc
once.
L690[21:59:58] <SkyTime13> event.timer is
literally useless to me.
L691[22:00:12] <Mimiru> You asked, I'm
explaining.
L692[22:00:21] <SkyTime13> I literally
just want a countdown timer for an automated furnace...
L693[22:00:27] <Mimiru> and no, you can
easily use it for a count down.
L694[22:00:36] <SkyTime13> but you said it
waits
L695[22:00:41] <SkyTime13> instead of
counting down
L696[22:01:02] *
Mimiru sighs and logs off for the night
L697[22:01:33] <AmandaC> Your not going to
find a computer.countdownThenShutdownTheFurnace, you'll have to
build it yourself
L698[22:01:44] <SkyTime13> i know
that
L699[22:01:59] <SkyTime13> are there any
fuctions I can use to countdown and print the output to the
screen?
L700[22:02:17] <AmandaC> Event.timer could
easily be part of that combined with a variable and the print
function
L701[22:02:25] <BILLPC2684> wow
L702[22:02:25] <SkyTime13> or just modify
'explode' to not send a signal to the self-destructing card?
L703[22:02:34] <SkyTime13> A
whatnow?
L704[22:02:46] <BILLPC2684> i think i've
been afk for too long messing around with this program
L705[22:02:46] *
AmandaC goes to bed
L706[22:03:44] <AmandaC> Read programming
in lua, don't just glue functions together with no idea of the
basics of the language, SkyTime13
L707[22:03:58] <AmandaC> %pil
L708[22:04:05] <AmandaC> Bah
L709[22:04:13] <SkyTime13> "read
programming in lua" I don't have time to take a programming
course. Also, the CTCP ACTION protocol broke.
L711[22:04:30] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Command
Added
L712[22:04:33] <Mimiru> %pil
L714[22:04:49] *
Mimiru actually logs off now
L715[22:05:01] <SkyTime13> who the hell is
CTCP ACTION
L716[22:05:04] *
AmandaC does the same
L717[22:05:28] <SkyTime13> who the hell is
CTCP ACTION or did the protocol just break?
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L719[22:06:26] <SkyTime13> Yep. It broke.
Nice job CTCP protocol.
L720[22:07:05] <Temia> It's a client-side
issue.
L721[22:07:09] <SkyTime13> Either that or
the inbuilt IRC program can't handle the client-to-client
protocol.
L722[22:07:36] <Temia> Should, but eh,
whatever, I got a VERSION response
L723[22:07:39] <Mimiru> ._. it used to...
I wrote that.
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L725[22:07:48] <Mimiru> WHY AM I STILL
HERE?!
L726[22:07:49] <SkyTime13> You wrote
what?
L727[22:08:10] <Mimiru> version and action
handling in the OC IRC client
L728[22:08:14] <Mimiru> along with some
other stuff.
L729[22:08:18] <Temia> Anyway I'm going to
bed myself. Nini
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L733[22:12:27] <S3> phew HW done
L734[22:12:43] <S3> blargh
L735[22:12:47] <S3> nice to have all my hw
done
L736[22:16:22] <SkyTime13_> How can I get
'explode' (from Computronics) to run without actually
exploding?
L737[22:19:42] <S3> lol wat
L738[22:21:50]
<Kodos>
SkyTime, you're just wanting a timer?
L739[22:22:00] <SkyTime13_> yes
L740[22:22:32]
<Kodos>
while x < duration do os.sleep(1) x = x + 1 end
L741[22:22:42]
<Kodos>
replace duration with your timer in seconds
L742[22:22:52] <SkyTime13_> how do i
output it to the screen?
L743[22:23:05]
<Kodos> Do
you need anything else on the screen?
L744[22:23:17] <SkyTime13_> Other than the
timer? No
L745[22:23:45]
<Kodos>
while x < duration do print(tostring(x)) os.sleep(1) x = x + 1
end
L746[22:23:53]
<Kodos> err
there should be a term.clear in there somewhere
L747[22:23:54]
<Kodos> But
you get the gist
L748[22:24:06] <SkyTime13_> Isn't
term.clear for CC and not OC?
L749[22:24:12]
<logan2611>
works on OC too
L750[22:24:24]
<logan2611>
with the term API
L751[22:24:35]
<Kodos> ~w
term
L753[22:25:04] <SkyTime13_> where do I put
the term.clear?
L754[22:25:22]
<Kodos>
Before the print
L755[22:25:28]
<Kodos>
Since you don't want to clear the print
L756[22:25:34] <SkyTime13_> When I try and
run it (while x < 10 do print(tostring(x)) os.sleep(1) x = x + 1
end) it doesn't do anything
L757[22:25:49] <SkyTime13_> so while x
< 10 do term.clear print(tostring(x)) os.sleep(1) x = x + 1
end?
L758[22:25:59]
<Kodos>
term.clear()
L759[22:26:00]
<Kodos> But
yeah
L760[22:26:22]
<Kodos> Also
remember that it's sleeping for 10 seconds, so it won't do anything
for 10 seconds, and then it should return to the shell
L761[22:26:30]
<Kodos> I
mean, it'll print the count up
L762[22:26:32] <SkyTime13_> while x <
10 do term.clear() print(tostring(x)) os.sleep(1) x = x + 1 end
doesn't do anything
L763[22:26:33]
<Kodos> But
that should be it
L764[22:26:43] <SkyTime13_> does it print
the count up or down?
L765[22:26:49]
<Kodos>
up
L766[22:26:55] <SkyTime13_> i need it to
print dowm
L767[22:26:59]
<Kodos>
Okay, then xo
L768[22:27:01]
<Kodos>
do*
L769[22:27:05] <SkyTime13_> down*
L771[22:28:26]
<Kodos>
Sorry if that looks like ass in IRC
L772[22:28:47] <Kodos> Ohhhh that's a neat
feature
L773[22:29:06] <Kodos> Ignore line 1
there
L774[22:29:12] <Kodos> Didn't realize it
would paste it =D
L775[22:29:41] <SkyTime13_> it
errors
L776[22:29:51] <SkyTime13_> attempt to
index global 'term' (a nil value)
L777[22:29:55] <Mimiru> did you requi...
no
L778[22:29:58] <Mimiru> no you
didn't
L779[22:30:10] <SkyTime13_> ?
L780[22:30:27] <Kodos> Sorry, my mistake
for assuming
L781[22:30:30] <Kodos> Hang on
L782[22:30:56] <Mimiru> local term =
require("term") IIRC
L784[22:31:51] <Kodos> (I assumed you knew
to require term, my bad)
L785[22:31:58] <SkyTime13_> Is it possible
to have it take up the whole screen?
L786[22:32:02] <SkyTime13_> Also it
doesn't stop at zero.
L787[22:32:26] <SkyTime13_> It uh, keeps
going... Which kinda freezes the PC.
L788[22:33:16] <Kodos> erm
L789[22:33:19] <Kodos> It should break
when x = 0
L790[22:33:29] <Kodos> Unless Lua doesn't
register 0 as false
L791[22:33:38] <Kodos> Okay, let me try a
new one
L792[22:33:42] <Mimiru> %lua 0 ==
false
L793[22:33:42] <MichiBot> false
L794[22:33:46] *
Mimiru coughs
L795[22:34:02] <Kodos> Okay then
L797[22:34:34]
<Kodos> Try
this
L798[22:35:13]
<Kodos> Also
to make it use up the whole screen, just adjust the
resolution
L799[22:35:19] <SkyTime13_> uhh whar
L800[22:35:20] <SkyTime13_> uhh what
L801[22:35:43]
<Kodos> Are
you sure you've ever used OC at all
L802[22:36:06] <SkyTime13_> i want it to
take up the screen OUTSIDE of the interface -_-
L803[22:36:26] <Mimiru> Then adjust. the.
resolution.
L804[22:36:43] <SkyTime13_> but that
doesnt work if im not in the screen
L805[22:36:59] <Mimiru> ... That's news to
me. cause, yeah, it does.
L806[22:37:08] <SkyTime13_> i want it to
be centered and bigger than a small tiny number
L807[22:37:15]
<Kodos>
Resolution affects the screen inworld as well as the
interface
L808[22:37:31] <SkyTime13_> unexpected
symbol near =
L809[22:37:40]
<Kodos>
until x == 0
L810[22:37:42]
<Kodos> I
think
L811[22:37:50] <Mimiru> You're going to
have to do math to center it.
L812[22:37:55] <SkyTime13_> ...
L813[22:37:58] <SkyTime13_> whyyyy
L814[22:38:02] <Mimiru> and make the res
smaller, to make the text take up more room.
L815[22:38:04]
<Kodos>
here's a tip
L816[22:38:08]
<Kodos> Go
use CC if you want simplicity
L817[22:38:17]
<Kodos> If
you want more robust functionality, learn to use OC
L818[22:38:41] <SkyTime13_> I literally
just want the timer to: be bigger and be centered... how do I make
the font bigger like 'explode'?
L819[22:39:38]
<Kodos> Hang
on
L822[22:39:55]
<Kodos> Beat
me to it lol
L823[22:39:58] <Mimiru>
gpu.setResolution
L824[22:40:25] <SkyTime13_> how do i
center it
L825[22:40:29] <Mimiru> ._.
L826[22:40:32] <Mimiru> nope. I'm
done
L827[22:40:34] <Mimiru> I'm out.
L828[22:40:35] <Mimiru> fuck this
L829[22:40:41] ⇦
Quits: Mimiru (~Mimiru@2607:5300:61:8d9::1bad:babe) (Quit: ZNC -
http://znc.in)
L830[22:41:53]
<Kodos> We
literally just linked you the code, if you can't see it, then I
think you should probably not use a computer mod
L831[22:42:37] <SkyTime13_> What do I
replace 'x' and 'y' with?? I want the text to be big and
centered
L832[22:42:44]
<Kodos> When
someone asks for help, there's a certain level of understanding
that's expected. You seem to have zero understanding of how to use
Lua, so please use redstone for a timer because obviously Lua is
too complex for you
L833[22:43:28] <SkyTime13_> Please don't
tell me to use redstone for a timer. I have an 9x9 space. I can't
fit a goddamn 50x50 thing in there..
L834[22:43:48] <SkyTime13_> Also redstone
looks ugly exposed.
L835[22:43:55]
<Kodos> Give
me your mod list
L837[22:45:42] <SkyTime13_> ...
L838[22:45:51] <SkyTime13_> why the fuck
does imgur not display the second monitor
L839[22:46:31]
<Kodos> Go
to mods folder, shift+right click, open command prompt here,
"dir > mods.txt"
L840[22:46:35]
<Kodos>
pastebin the mods.txt file
L842[22:46:57] <SkyTime13_> or that
L843[22:47:07]
<Kodos>
Perfect
L844[22:47:09]
<Kodos> You
have Project Red
L845[22:47:14]
<Kodos>
There's literally a ONE BLOCK Timer
L846[22:47:26] <SkyTime13_> I DON'T KNOW
HOW TO USE REDSTONE!!!
L847[22:47:36] <SkyTime13_> I'VE NEVER
FUCKING USED REDSTONE TO DO SHIT!!
L848[22:47:59] <SkyTime13_> Also, RFTools
is better lol
L849[22:48:09]
<Kodos>
RFTools is bloated garbage
L850[22:48:19] <SkyTime13_> how
L851[22:48:20]
<Kodos> Also
place down a Project Red timer
L852[22:48:23]
<Kodos>
Right click it
L853[22:48:26]
<Kodos> ANd
if you still can't figure it out
L854[22:48:31]
<Kodos>
Please stop using a computer IRL
L855[22:48:34]
<Kodos>
Because you're obviously retarded
L856[22:48:46] <SkyTime13_> how do i
output the timer???
L857[22:48:50]
<Kodos> Or a
tro-
L858[22:48:53]
<Kodos>
Okay, I give up too
L859[22:48:55]
<Kodos> Good
luck
L860[22:49:18]
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L861[22:49:21] <SkyTime13> but
L862[22:49:28] <SkyTime13> i dont know how
to output the timer
L863[22:49:58] <SkyTime13> plz dont assume
i know how to use projectred
L864[23:34:55]
<Dudblockman> Are we uhh... good at
counting here?
L865[23:34:56]
<Dudblockman> 1
L866[23:35:03] <SkyTime13> 2
L867[23:57:37] <SkyTime13> 3
L868[23:57:38] <SkyTime13> 4
L869[23:57:38] <SkyTime13> 5
L870[23:57:58] <SkyTime13> 6?
L871[23:58:57] <SkyTime13_> I forgot about
this window lol