L1[00:37:08] 
<Kodos> Is
FF15 or 14 the online one
<Kodos> Is
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L3[01:43:40] <Izaya> 15 I think
L4[01:43:46] <Izaya> actually
L5[01:43:51] <Izaya> I don't know wtf I'm
talking about
L6[01:56:20] * Skye
pokes Izaya
L7[02:13:05] <gamax92> slowly narrowing down
the issue.
L8[02:15:39] <Saphire> gamax92: hmm?
L9[02:15:51] <gamax92> with binutils 2.24,
graphics display
L10[02:16:03] <gamax92> with binutils 2.25,
no terrain displays
L11[02:16:15] <Saphire> ... The hell?
L12[02:16:23] <gamax92> so I shall clone
the git repo and start to slowly revert until I find the
change
L13[02:16:27] <Saphire> That's in
Minecraft?
L14[02:16:33] <Saphire> Or what?
L15[02:16:41] <gamax92> ehh no
L16[02:16:51] <gamax92> silly dumb old
project of mine
L17[02:16:55] <Saphire> Oh!
L18[02:17:12] <Saphire> Why would it even
be affected by binutils?
L19[02:18:14] <gamax92> no idea but if I
*only* change out the ld program with the older one, keeping the
same old object files, everything works
L20[02:19:09] <gamax92> gonna use the good
ol git bisect
L21[02:20:54] <gamax92> binutils repo is
huge
L22[02:32:45] <Saphire> gamax92: how's it
going so far?
L23[02:33:22] <gamax92> slow
compiling
L24[02:42:10] <Saphire> https://goo.gl/pQiYYd
L25[02:42:56] <Saphire> It's horrible and
glorious xD
L26[02:43:31] *
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L27[02:44:58] <Saphire> Izaya: hmm?
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L29[02:45:55] <Izaya> Surely you could
guess what my issues with that link are
L30[02:46:50] <Izaya> But y'know, you do
you.
L31[02:48:50] <Saphire> Google link
shortener, a chrome extension, a furry meme text replacement
extension? Which one?
L32[02:49:39] <Izaya> No issue with
furries.
L33[02:50:27] <Saphire> Chrome extension,
yeah ;c
L34[02:50:30] <Saphire> *:c
L35[02:50:39] <Izaya> more just
L36[02:50:39] <Saphire> Should be a
userscript
L37[02:50:41] <Izaya> chrome
L38[02:50:54] <Izaya> though I guess since
firefox sucks now too
L39[02:50:56] <Saphire> ... Chrome
extensions are glorified user scripts
L40[02:50:58] *
Izaya sighs
L41[02:51:17] <Saphire> Webextension
extensions are glorified user scripts!
L42[02:51:30] <gamax92> Izaya: but
firefox's old extension system kinda sucked.
L43[02:51:48] <Izaya> gamax92: it was more
powerful though
L44[02:51:55] <Saphire> ^
L45[02:52:03] <Saphire> Why not keep it as
an option?
L46[02:52:14] <Saphire> With huge warning
"you get no support, lol"
L47[02:52:23] <Saphire> But still an
option
L48[02:52:24] <Izaya> it's not like they're
rewriting the UI code to run natively
L49[02:52:29] <Izaya> that's still gonna be
mostly in JS
L50[02:52:37] <Izaya> just now extensions
can't modify it
L51[02:52:45] <Saphire> Because XUL
modification is still possible, just not for extensions
L52[02:52:52] <Saphire> And that is just so
fucking stupid
L53[02:53:22] <Saphire> Also, hmm... How do
they react to any "xul modification in webextensions?"
Questions?
L54[02:53:40] <gamax92> something is wrong,
all of my bisects are failing to compile.
L55[02:57:23] <Saphire> RIP
L56[02:59:36] <Saphire> gamax92: uh
L57[02:59:54] <Saphire> Web Extensions are
targeted SPECIFICALLY to be used by DUMB people
L58[03:00:27] <Saphire> So that even if
someone installs one, they don't get fully screwed over....
L59[03:00:32] <Saphire> That's the logic
behind it
L60[03:00:53] <gamax92> it starts compiling
and then fails midway with a: undefined reference to `dlopen',
undefined reference to `dlerror', undefined reference to
`dlsym'
L61[03:03:41] <Saphire> Izaya: hey, go to
bugzilla and check out that tiny little message they have on every
page :v
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L63[03:16:48] <gamax92> okay, should build
now.
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L65[03:23:03] <Saphire> gamax92: whatcha
fixed?
L66[03:23:09] <gamax92> did not build
:|
L67[03:37:44] <Saphire> I mean, what was
breaking the build?
L68[03:37:55] <ben_mkiv> gamax^^
L69[03:38:16] <gamax92> it not linking with
-ldl, fixed
L70[03:38:35] <gamax92> cause it's being
compiled with --enable-plugins
L71[03:49:09] <Izaya> https://ocb.bymarcin.com/#b5e8cad13bb94c00ac0d8ec85dd1ef9a
is cool
L72[03:49:20] <Izaya> can't say I'd use it
but it's cool nonetheless
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L74[03:53:39] <gamax92> %flip Inari
L75[03:53:40] <MichiBot> gamax92:
(╯°□°）╯ıɹɐuI
L76[03:56:50] <Inari> %flip gamax92
L77[03:56:51] <MichiBot> Inari:
(╯°□°）╯ⵒ6xɐɯɐɓ
L78[04:16:26] <Corded> * <Lizzy>
organised the rooms into categories
L79[04:18:22] *
Izaya organised his categories into rooms
L80[04:18:44] *
gamax92 puts a labrinth in the room
L81[04:30:28] <ben_mkiv> so this fancy
sgcraft mod just adds the teleporter?
L82[04:34:40] <Izaya> https://www.humblebundle.com/store/outlast-deluxe
free
L83[04:37:56] <ben_mkiv> they're also
selling books like "Crystals for Healing"
L84[04:38:47] <ben_mkiv> also wonder if
"Sex Positions for Every Body" includes singles?!
L85[04:40:06] <Inari> "Lets send them
a mail" *clicks* "http://facebook.com/uxthemes" what :P
L86[04:40:13] <Inari> well
L87[04:40:16] <Inari> mailto: infront of
that link
L88[04:40:17] <Inari> bUt still, what
L89[04:40:40] <ben_mkiv> you're still
missing with that templates?
L90[04:40:42] <ben_mkiv> messing
L91[04:40:47] <Inari> Yeah
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L94[05:03:46] <Inari> Hrm
L95[05:03:49] <Inari> So GPLv2...
L96[05:04:15] <Inari> It says "Must
disclose source", how does that work if I write a plugin for
wordpress fro some client. I mean, it'll be on their webserver,
that isn't exactly "disclosed", I think?
L97[05:05:00] <ben_mkiv> better get a
lawyer
L98[05:05:01] <ben_mkiv> :P
L99[05:05:05] <Inari> Huh Tree of Savior
still exists
L100[05:05:20] <Inari> ben_mkiv: Eh, if I
hav eto go that far I'll just use an ugly javascript to hack it
together :P
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L103[05:08:39] <ben_mkiv> what are you
even trying to archive?
L104[05:08:56] <ben_mkiv> there are so
many open javascript frameworks...
L105[05:09:11] <Inari> ben_mkiv: Change a
class name and a link :p
L106[05:10:54] <Inari> Or alternatively
change the content of an added element out for the content of the
page it links to
L107[05:11:07] <Inari> *swap the
content
L108[05:11:54] <ben_mkiv> shouldn't have
asked xD
L109[05:11:59] <Inari> :P
L110[05:13:39] <Inari> Ah seems "make
available" just means that on request I'd needt o make it
available
L111[05:13:43] <Inari> Thats fine, I don't
care
L112[05:14:19] <Inari> Plus it's PHP code,
it isn't really dsitributed
L113[05:24:31] <Inari> %tell payonel
https://gfycat.com/EvilImpressionableHarlequinbug
L114[05:24:31] <MichiBot> Inari: payonel
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L115[05:24:32] <Inari> AmandaC: ^
L116[05:28:23] <Vexatos> Inari, I have
cute animals too! https://imgur.com/a/xj3oL
L117[05:28:43] <Inari> Vexatos: lies
D:
L118[05:28:48] <Vexatos> found five of
these yesterday
L119[05:28:52] <Inari> ew
L120[05:29:13] <Inari> I need some anti
insect measure
L121[05:29:24] <Vexatos> all 2-4cm big,
and two other spiders: One with striped legs and a very small pale
one :U
L122[05:29:32] <Vexatos> Inari, spiders
are very good anti-insect measures
L123[05:30:04] <Inari> Anti-ew measure
:P
L124[05:30:12] <ben_mkiv> is that cat
yours?
L125[05:30:17] <Inari> No clue what the
category that includes spiders with insects is called
L126[05:30:19] <Inari> ben_mkiv: No
L127[05:30:33] <ben_mkiv> hm, get a snake
against spiders :P
L128[05:30:56] <Inari> Snakes are ew
too
L129[05:31:16] <ben_mkiv> then get a snake
for the spiders and something that eats snakes for the snakes
L130[05:31:21] <Vexatos> Inari,
arthropods
L131[05:31:45] <Inari> I wonder if the MC
enchantment works on Natura beest hen
L132[05:32:46] <Vexatos> But that also
includes crustaceans, myriapods, most crabs and mites and
scorpions
L133[05:32:55] <Inari> Sounds about
right
L134[05:33:00] <Inari> I don't want any of
these in my home
L135[05:33:01] <Inari> :P
L136[05:33:10] <Vexatos> but spiders are
cute and eat mosquitos :U
L137[05:33:31] <Vexatos> and they don't
bother you ._.
L138[05:34:01] <Inari> They aren't cute
and they bother me
L139[05:34:14] <ben_mkiv> Vexatos, did you
ever run in one of the crossspider nets? xD
L140[05:34:25] <ben_mkiv> they make like
1mx1m webs
L141[05:35:06] <Vexatos> No because I am
not stupid enough to destroy perfectly functional mosquito
traps
L142[05:35:22] <Vexatos> less mosquitos
-> happy vex
L143[05:35:30] <Vexatos> or fewer*
whatevs
L144[05:35:35] <Inari> I'd rather have
small programmed lasers shooting them down
L145[05:35:41] <Vexatos> also yes
L146[05:35:44] <Vexatos> the webs are
huuuuuge
L147[05:35:45] <Vexatos> so cool
L148[05:35:57] <Vexatos> there were two
webs on one of our windows
L149[05:36:02] <Vexatos> with two cross
spiders
L150[05:36:12] <ben_mkiv> garden of my
parents is full of them, too
L151[05:36:21] <Vexatos> this year's a
spider year
L152[05:36:23] <Vexatos> it's lovely
L153[05:36:30] <Vexatos> the best type of
year you can get
L154[05:36:39] <Inari> Any spidrs i find
get flung out wide
L155[05:36:40] <Inari> :P
L156[05:36:43] <Vexatos> more spiders
means less of anything that might annoy you
L157[05:36:53] <Inari> Except if spiders
annoy you
L158[05:37:01] <ben_mkiv> nah, my parents
still exist xD
L159[05:37:16] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, the one
between our garden door and support beam was called Erwin by my mum
:I
L160[05:37:31] <Vexatos> ben_mkiv, the
spiders simply aren't big enough yet, give them time
L161[05:37:44] <ben_mkiv> birds eat them
before they can evolve
L162[05:38:02] <Inari> Birds eat
spiders?
L163[05:38:06] <Inari> Cool, birds are
cute
L164[05:38:09] <Vexatos> that's why out
spiders build on windows
L165[05:38:18] <Vexatos> Birds don't go
near windows, apart from the evry stupid ones
L166[05:38:23] <Vexatos> very*
L167[05:38:31] <ben_mkiv> yea, they feed
them to their childs
L168[05:38:40] <Inari> Vexatos: Or the
well equipped ones
L169[05:38:46] <Inari> Hummingbird flight
;D
L170[05:39:38] <ben_mkiv> they're to small
i guess
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L172[06:54:37] <Mimiru> Izaya, only 5
hours late.. but FF14 is online
L173[07:00:38] <Temia> Was the
maintenance?
L174[07:00:59] <Temia> I was too busy
playing DQX to notice @_@
L175[07:01:01] <Mimiru> He asked it if was
14 or 15 that was online
L176[07:01:10] <Temia> Oh!
L177[07:01:13] <Temia> Okay
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L180[07:08:57] <DaMachinator-> Can I set a
"default value" for a table to have?
L181[07:09:18] <DaMachinator-> E.g. a
value to return if it is asked for the value at a key that does not
exist?
L182[07:14:53] <Temia> https://twitter.com/momijinubashiri/status/911195658954133504
I found Inari
L183[07:14:53] <MichiBot> Fri Sep 22
06:49:08 CDT 2017 @momijinubashiri: @kagewaka https://t.co/xwEbF8ENPY
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L211[07:19:31] <DaMachinator-> Can I set
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L213[07:19:41] <DaMachinator->
"default value" for a lua table?
L214[07:20:49] <DaMachinator-> such that
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L217[07:35:50] <Inari> DaMachinator:
metatable's __index? or __newindex perhaps
L218[07:36:26] <DaMachinator-> ok, i don't
know how to use metatables
L219[07:36:39] <DaMachinator-> also from
what I understand __newindex is for assignment
L220[07:37:29] <Inari> Hence
"perhaps". Also do oyu mean a constant no matter hwat you
access as long as it doesn't exist
L221[07:37:32] <Inari> or specific default
values
L222[07:37:48] <Inari> Like
table["x"] would always return "1.0" if usnet
but table["y"] always "3.02?
L223[07:42:42] <DaMachinator-> I'm making
a table of mapping strings to values, like a java ENUM of
sorts.
L224[07:45:44] <DaMachinator-> I need any
keys I don't have mappings for to return a different value.
L225[07:46:12] <DaMachinator-> Although I
suppose I could just check for the result being nil.
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L227[07:51:05] <Inari> DaMachinator: What
else would yuo return?
L228[07:51:35] <Syrren> an error,
maybe?
L229[07:51:46] <Inari> Thats not a return
value :D
L230[07:51:58] <DaMachinator-> An
int
L231[07:52:09] <Inari> But what int
L232[07:52:12] <DaMachinator-> or
math.huge
L233[07:52:20] <DaMachinator-> or
zero
L234[07:52:38] <Syrren> so you actually
want to return a quantum.superposition(1, math.huge, 0) ?
L235[07:52:39] <Syrren> :-P
L236[07:53:22] <DaMachinator-> that would
be nice but no
L237[07:53:32] <DaMachinator-> i'll
probably make nil work
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L240[07:59:22] <AmandaC> metatable __index
is only called if the key doesn't exist on the table it's set
on
L241[08:00:00] <AmandaC> so some_enum =
setmetatable({ foo = 1, bar = 2}, {...})
L242[08:01:00] <AmandaC> %lua some_enum =
setmetatable({ foo = 1, bar = 2}, { __index = function(t, idx)
return 0 end })
L243[08:01:08] <AmandaC> %lua
some_enum.foo
L244[08:01:08] <MichiBot> 1
L245[08:01:12] <AmandaC> %lua
some_enum.baz
L246[08:01:12] <MichiBot> 0
L247[08:01:17] <AmandaC> DaMachinator-:
^
L248[08:02:46] <DaMachinator-> thx
L249[08:05:36] <AmandaC> metatables aren't
that complex. They're just a table of functions that get called for
certine conditions.
L250[08:06:13] <AmandaC>
foo["unknown-key"] is __index
foo["unknown_key"] = "blah" is __newindex foo()
is __call, etc
L251[08:07:52] <AmandaC> DaMachinator-: To
make sure you see it^
L252[08:11:29] <DaMachinator-> thanks
again
L253[08:13:04] <DaMachinator-> time to
pray this actually works
L254[08:25:38] <Inari> I still don't see
the point
L255[08:25:46] <Inari> If you access an
undefined enum value you awnt to error
L256[08:27:22] <DaMachinator-> I don't
know what all the enum values are yet.
L257[08:27:41] <DaMachinator-> And in this
case, I want to fallback to a degraded mode rather than
erroring.
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L260[09:11:42] <MGR> ~w
world sensor
<MGR> ~w
world sensorL261[09:11:42] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:world_sensor
L262[09:14:47] <Michiyo> Oh.. that reminds
me.. I need to work on my sensor mod more..
L263[09:15:11] <Michiyo> meh
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L266[09:23:30] <S3> SENA MOD?!
L267[09:23:33] <S3> sensa*
L268[09:23:51] <S3> Michiyo: whats it
do?
L269[09:23:59] <Michiyo> currently? not
much.. :P
L270[09:24:06] <Michiyo> it has one sensor
card
L271[09:24:42] <Michiyo> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSensors/blob/master/src/main/java/pcl/opensensors/common/items/ItemWorldSensor.java#L18-L29
L272[09:24:47] <S3> I'm thinking of using
an OC computer to JUST be a Tape controller interface to
redstone
L273[09:25:01] <S3> for computronics
L274[09:25:35] <DaMachinator-> what's the
OC addon that lets you stream audio from an .mp3 stream
L275[09:25:50] <Michiyo> OpenFM
L276[09:25:55] <S3> Vexatos: how dafuq do
you rewind, pass negative to seek?
L277[09:26:46] <Vexatos> yes
L278[09:27:20] <Vexatos> S3, you can
play/pause a tape drive with redstone
L279[09:27:27] <Vexatos> on 1.7.10, you
can use BuildCraft gates
L280[09:27:39] <Vexatos> other than that,
a computer it is >_>
L281[09:29:05] <Temia> μ
L282[09:29:15] *
Temia zzzmoo.
L283[09:29:50] <S3> wait what
L284[09:30:03] <S3> hmmm
L285[09:30:12] <S3> can you rewind with
redstone?
L286[09:31:04] <Vexatos> not without a BC
gate
L287[09:31:23] <S3> ohh
L288[09:31:26] <S3> so here's what I wanna
do
L289[09:31:35] <S3> I'm building a
redstone computer
L290[09:31:40] <S3> and I want to store my
programs on tape
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L292[09:32:24] <S3> so I need to write /
read binary data to tape with redstone
L293[09:33:41] <Vexatos> yea you
definitely need a computer for that :P
L294[09:35:16] <S3> ah
L295[09:36:21] <S3> it's too bad it
doesn't support control via a bundle cable
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L298[10:07:58] <DaMachinator-> https://gist.github.com/DaMachinator/4f485040ca651887c0d1a2a8f1a4d050
<- I hope this works
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L304[10:41:28] <S3> DaMachinator: it
doesn't
L305[10:41:44] <S3> because your print
function doesn't wrap :P
L306[10:42:12] <S3> your print function
can write outside of the x,y window
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L310[11:03:20] <Izaya> https://www.humblebundle.com/store/outlast-deluxe
L311[11:17:19] <S3> heh
L312[11:17:36] <S3> Vexatos: just how slow
are these tapes?/
L313[11:19:33] <Vexatos> each write
operation takes one tick
L314[11:19:42] <Vexatos> if you only write
one byte at a time, go figure
L315[11:20:39] <S3> Vexatos: that's
fast
L316[11:20:59] <S3> seeking in the
tape?
L317[11:21:05] <Vexatos> same
L318[11:21:11] <S3> whaaaa
L319[11:21:15] <Vexatos> all operations
take one tick
L320[11:21:21] <S3> that seems a bit
unrealistic
L321[11:21:43] <Vexatos> it's an advantage
over normal rewinding :P
L322[11:22:02] <Vexatos> It's the only way
for things like live processing to be possible
L323[11:22:21] <S3> with this sort of one
tick operation
L324[11:22:29] <S3> it wouldn't be insane
to have the tape be used for ram then would it
L325[11:22:44] <S3> well itd be more like
prom
L326[11:22:54] <AmandaC> computers operate
faster than once/tick don't they?
L327[11:23:08] <S3> mine is slower
L328[11:23:34] <S3> I am currently
perfecting the accumulator design
L329[11:29:08] <S3> Um
L330[11:29:09] <S3> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2017/07/31/marijuana-maine-delivery/506978001/
L331[11:29:10] <S3> what ^
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L336[11:58:08] <gamax92> I see it
L337[11:58:13] <gamax92> the problematic
commit
L338[11:58:16] <gamax92> https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commit;h=93d1b056cb396d6468781fe0e40dd769891bed32
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L340[12:14:46] <DaMachinator-> Does
OpenComputers do some kind of caching of libraries?
L341[12:15:10] <AmandaC> yes, require's ae
cached
L342[12:15:32] <DaMachinator-> that would
explain why I have to reboot every time i fix a typo in a
library
L343[12:15:47] <Izaya> you can unload
it
L344[12:15:52] <Izaya> forget how
though
L345[12:16:50] <AmandaC>
require("package").loaded["libray-name"] =
nil
L346[12:17:41] <gamax92> you don't have to
require package
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L348[13:44:55] <Inari> Temia: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKWWLAjXcAAeTyw.jpg:large
isn't she cute!
L349[13:44:59] <Inari> Iwa nt a maid
outfit like htat :|
L350[13:45:03] <Inari> All the ones Ifind
online suck
L351[13:46:13] *
gamax92 pokes ds84182
L352[13:50:35] <ds84182> ?
L353[13:50:49] <ds84182> oh, i saw that in
my email last night
L354[13:51:12] <ds84182> even after a
clean + rebuild?
L355[13:52:14] <gamax92> yeah
L356[13:52:25] <ds84182> hm
L357[13:52:33] <ds84182> i'll take a look
at my display list code then
L358[13:52:51] <gamax92> ds84182: well I
don't think it's an issue with the code
L359[13:53:37] <gamax92> if you diff the
resulting dol's from one with binutils 2.24 and one with binutils
2.25, a few instuctions have an extra bit set
L360[13:54:16] <ds84182> instructions in
what functions?
L361[13:54:22] <gamax92> it's also those
same functions with modified instructions that also end up throwing
relocation errors if I copy the linker script and define _SDA_BASE_
and _SDA2_BASE_
L362[13:54:28] <Temia> That is cute
:o
L363[13:54:29] <gamax92> hold on
L364[13:55:16] <gamax92> ds84182: https://hastebin.com/burewarizo.txt
L365[13:55:30] <Inari> Lots of maid
outfits have too puffy cheeks, or show much cleavage. Or for some
reason have an area of skin showing under the ribbon bow on the
neck. The bow being "detachable" then
L366[13:55:35] <Inari> I never understood
that last part
L367[13:56:00] <ds84182> hm, maybe it
breaks on paired single instructions then
L368[14:00:01] <gamax92> ds84182: https://hastebin.com/dexeyacuri.diff, note the third
byte gets it's 8th bit set
L369[14:03:32] <ds84182> works for me in
dolphin
L370[14:04:08] <gamax92> whats
powerpc-eabi-ld --version say?
L371[14:04:33] <ds84182> upgrade to
r29-1
L372[14:04:45] <gamax92> I am on
r29-1
L373[14:04:53] <ds84182> hm
L374[14:05:08] <gamax92> cause for me I
get no 3d visuals in both dolphin and console
L375[14:05:12] <ds84182> 2.27
L376[14:06:12] <gamax92> same, uhh
...
L377[14:06:36] <ds84182> What does it say
under [devkitPPC] and [libogc] in
$(DEVKITPRO)/dkppc-update.ini
L378[14:07:40] <gamax92> I do not have
that file
L379[14:07:51] <ds84182> wat
L380[14:08:24] <ds84182> you're using the
perl script to update, right?
L381[14:08:55] <gamax92> uh no? it's just
the precompiled devkitppc linux tarfiles from sourceforge
L382[14:09:08] <ds84182> I think your
libogc is out of date then
L383[14:09:17] <gamax92> was compiled from
git
L384[14:09:20] <gamax92> like this
week
L385[14:09:30] <ds84182> did you compile
it with r29-1?
L386[14:09:44] <gamax92> yeah, had to or
else it gave a symbol error
L387[14:09:55] <ds84182> hm
L388[14:10:42] <ds84182> idk, https://github.com/devkitPro/libogc/blob/master/libogc/gu_psasm.S
hasn't changed in the last 4 years
L389[14:11:16] <gamax92> it's just a
change in binutils though that started causing the issue, https://sourceware.org/git/gitweb.cgi?p=binutils-gdb.git;a=commit;h=93d1b056cb396d6468781fe0e40dd769891bed32
L390[14:12:46] <ds84182> perhaps the
version of libogc I'm using was built with an older version of
devkitPPC
L391[14:13:29] <gamax92> I don't think
it's code generation related just linking, cause only switching out
the ld binary was enough to enable/disable the issue
L392[14:16:00] <ds84182> It could be that
the .sdata section where Unit01 and NrmData are located got changed
with a newer version of devkitPPC
L393[14:17:13] <ds84182> for me, .sdata is
located at 80168660
L394[14:17:59] <ds84182> can you give me
the output of powerpc-eabi-objdump -h GXCraft.elf
L395[14:18:56] <gamax92> ds84182: https://hastebin.com/roqexoxoyo.txt
L396[14:19:14] <gamax92> err.
L397[14:19:40] <ds84182> thats some odd
output
L398[14:19:42] <gamax92> ds84182: https://hastebin.com/bibuxidoja.txt sorry wrong
command
L399[14:19:57] <ds84182> ah
L400[14:20:15] <ds84182> 80189020
L401[14:20:39] <ds84182> so the binary
size grew
L402[14:20:42] <ds84182> (i blame
gcc)
L403[14:21:24] <ds84182> makes sense, GCC
has had some size regressions lately
L404[14:21:34] <gamax92> I could try using
the precompiled libogc ...
L405[14:23:24] <ds84182> I guess resources
can be stored on the sdcard too
L406[14:23:40] <ds84182> I wish Wii
homebrew had something like the 3DS's romfs
L407[14:24:15] <gamax92> oh jeez,
yeah
L408[14:25:02] <ds84182> Thats the price
people have to pay for using Nintendo's DOL format instead of
making their own, I guess
L409[14:25:09] <gamax92> and I
accidentally purged grrlib :D
L410[14:25:15] <ds84182> rip
L411[14:28:19] <gamax92> ds84182: btw do
you know what devkitRice is?
L412[14:29:28] <ds84182> nope
L413[14:31:31] <gamax92> okay yeah I can't
use these precompiled versions of libogc cause it gives me a:
devkitPro/libogc/libogc/ipc.c:487: undefined reference to
`__ctype_ptr__'
L414[14:33:31] <ds84182> wa
L415[14:34:20] <ds84182> -lg needs to be
added to libs?
L416[14:35:10] <gamax92> tried, creates an
additional conflict with the time() function and the undefined
references are still there
L417[14:35:35] <ds84182> hm
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L419[14:37:37] <ds84182> idk, I just use
the already built dkPPC binaries and the already built libogc
binaries
L420[14:38:07] <gamax92> ds84182: what's
your libogc version?
L421[14:38:48] <gamax92> cause I just
grabbed 1.8.15-1 off sourceforge
L422[14:38:54] <ds84182> 1.8.16
L423[14:38:58] <gamax92> oh.
L424[14:49:01] <gamax92> I've purged my
entire /opt/devkitpro folder and reinstalled from all precompiled,
still no visuals :|
L425[14:49:56] <gamax92> ds84182: just to
confirm, $DEVKITPPC/powerpc-eabi/bin/ld --version gives 2.27,
sha1sum of b662ffa3b7768c8fbb6384f3e0462d0dc9e57375 ?
L426[14:50:59] <ds84182> 1 sec
L427[14:51:27] <ds84182> same,
b662ffa3b7768c8fbb6384f3e0462d0dc9e57375
L428[14:54:25] <ds84182> ok, my repo was
out of date
L429[14:54:37] <gamax92> you
motherfucker
L430[14:54:39] <ds84182> I git pull'd and
now I don't get terrain
L431[14:54:54] <gamax92> I knew it
L432[14:55:20] <gamax92> yeah putting
stuff into C++ also was related to the change
L433[14:55:45] <ds84182> maybe there was
something that was defined behavior in C but undefined behavior in
C++
L434[14:56:38] <ds84182> I think I know
why
L435[14:56:40] <ds84182> Probably
L436[14:56:46] <gamax92> telling ya it's
some sort of relocation issue
L437[14:57:08] <ds84182> The display list
allocations aren't 32 byte aligned
L438[14:57:18] <ds84182> It just happened
to work for the C version
L439[14:57:41] <gamax92> oh yeah I
remember you telling me about that ...
L440[14:59:09] <Inari> Hrm, I hate this
situation where I want to ask something but have no clue whats the
best palce ot ask it
L441[14:59:16] <gamax92> Inari: ask your
brother
L442[14:59:30] <Inari> Like he'd know
:p
L443[15:05:53] <Inari> gamax92: And asking
in cahnnels if anyone knows a channel for XZY seems rude
L444[15:05:54] <Inari> :Z
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L446[15:08:50] <gamax92> ds84182:
posix_memalign is apparently not defined in any archive
L447[15:09:18] <ds84182> use regular
memalign
L448[15:17:43] <gamax92> ds84182: tried
this, didn't help https://hastebin.com/nesurohoni.cpp
L449[15:35:07] <payonel> Inari: re:
https://gfycat.com/EvilImpressionableHarlequinbug ,
this is my life now
L450[15:36:11] <ds84182> well
L451[15:36:34] <ds84182> I don't know what
else to do
L452[15:36:46] <ds84182> The C version
works fine on the latest dkP
L453[15:42:10] <Inari> payonel: :D
L454[15:47:47] <gamax92> hmm I should see
what instructions were being outputted for the C version, cause
those gx functions are not in my repo, it's interesting they would
link differently.
L455[15:48:30] <gamax92> I'm able to
revert that binutils 93d1b056cb396d6468781fe0e40dd769891bed32
commit and have it start working again, might also try doing
partial revert or adding debugging info
L456[15:52:39] <AmandaC> Inari: https://twitter.com/SimoneGiertz/status/910937575354916864
L457[15:52:39] <MichiBot> Thu Sep 21
13:43:37 CDT 2017 @SimoneGiertz: PARENTS! You don't have to carry
your children anymore. We have drones for that now. https://t.co/cnnm03mvmO
L458[16:00:05] <Inari> AmandaC: xD
L459[16:00:07] <Inari> Perfect
L460[16:01:58] <Michiyo> %w 72396
L461[16:01:58] <MichiBot> Current weather
for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 95.6°F/35.3°C Feels Like: 101°F/38°C
Current Humidity: 41% Wind: From the East 6.0 Mph/9.7 Km/h
Conditions: Clear
L462[17:02:38] <Michiyo> %w 72396
L463[17:02:38] <MichiBot> Current weather
for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 94.4°F/34.7°C Feels Like: 98°F/37°C
Current Humidity: 41% Wind: From the ENE 4.0 Mph/6.4 Km/h
Conditions: Clear
L464[17:02:48] <Michiyo> thank fuck...
keep going down..
L465[17:09:27] <gamax92> ~w 72396
L466[17:09:27] <ocdoc> Current weather for
Wynne, AR Current Temp: 96.6°F/35.9°C Feels Like: 102°F/39°C
Current Humidity: 41% Wind: From the ENE 5.0 Mph/8.1 Km/h
Conditions: Clear
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L468[17:33:19] <AmandaC> %choose yappa paa
or magical butterflies or awkward gamers
L469[17:33:20] <MichiBot> AmandaC: awkward
gamers
L470[17:40:14] <gamax92> ds84182: uhh okay
then, apparently it's related to link order.
L471[17:41:15] <gamax92> it needs Main.o
to be linked first
L472[17:41:54] <gamax92> which just so
happens in the old mostly C version because there was only one C++
file, main.cpp
L473[17:44:46] <Izaya> does TI still
fabricate ICs?
L474[17:52:32] <gamax92> yay, problem
solved or atleast worked around
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L477[18:06:14] <AmandaC> %choose try and
find something to watch or game
L478[18:06:15] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and
find something to watch
L479[18:06:19] <AmandaC> Bleh
L480[18:11:07] <ds84182> hm
L481[18:11:08] <ds84182> odd
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L483[18:40:24] <Izaya> \o/ new updater
script works
L484[18:47:15] <Izaya> never mind it's
super broken
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L488[20:57:07] <gamax92> ugh, okay not
fixed.
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L493[23:16:25] <Izaya> pkg is now a useful
thing \o/
L494[23:17:33] <Izaya> need to add a
'remove' command but the current way works to update and download
stuff
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