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L3[00:34:24] <Kodos> Anyone know if Galactic Science (modpack) is on the twitch app or something else
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L8[00:56:23] <Dudblockman> Twitch app
L9[00:56:36] <Dudblockman> I played it from there at some point
L10[01:16:29] <Izaya> twitch app?
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L17[02:03:48] <noob> Hi@all ... in lua there build in function that tells you the length of an table, right?
L18[02:04:01] <noob> *I mena no
L19[02:04:13] <noob> in lua there NO build in function that tells you the length of an table, right?
L20[02:04:28] <MineRobber9000> there's #t
L21[02:05:27] <noob> sooo. how do I use it?
L22[02:15:06] <noob> I do have a code that returns an table which might or might not empty. I have to check if there are stuff in it. I could do a for loop ... but in most languages there is a one liner that returns the length ... basically I wanna check if "component.list('br_turbine')" contains something ... problem is "#component.list('br_turbine')" always returns 0 even if it has data
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L25[02:25:45] <noob> soo ... my own function (with a for loop in it) it is
L26[03:03:29] <Kodos> noob, I believe #tablename returns the length
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L28[03:04:18] <Forecaster> yes
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L30[03:04:41] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L31[03:08:11] <Lizzy> "<Mimiru> left on a tantrum because he as called out on bending the rules to his favor one to many times" yep, it was me calling him out for going against one of the rules he put in...
L32[03:08:11] <Lizzy> he then had the cheek to complain later on about "those damn brits"
L33[03:13:04] <Kodos> I'd have sworn I had the convo where he ragequit pastebin'd but I only have the convo from when he +q'd me
L34[03:22:46] <Lizzy> check the oclogs site
L35[03:23:43] <Vexatos> I spy a kenny talk
L36[03:34:45] <Izaya> huh, the xbonex has 12GB of RAM. Kinda cute.
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L39[04:04:35] <Saphire> Izaya: and other 4 are vram?
L40[04:04:40] <Saphire> *video
L41[04:06:24] <Izaya> I assume so?
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L46[05:27:14] <Inari> http://store.steampowered.com/app/618720/1bitHeart/ *-*
L47[05:30:03] <Inari> this... doesn't look quite right (the top one is also an email, the two bottom ones I included to show how it should look) http://tinyurl.com/ydhygldu
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L50[05:37:54] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/105319361538981888/349502214718357506/cp3p9Mu.png
L51[05:40:32] <Kodos> Some years? Seems like that's happening now
L52[05:41:25] <Vexatos> You don't know when this was made :⁾
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L71[06:52:53] <LuMistry> Greetings
L72[06:58:45] <Inari> Gratings
L73[06:59:47] <LuMistry> What are you grating Inari?
L74[06:59:56] <Inari> Cheese
L75[07:00:03] <LuMistry> What kind?
L76[07:01:18] <Inari> Gouda
L77[07:01:28] <LuMistry> Do you like Gouda cheese?
L78[07:04:39] <Vexatos> it tastes grate
L79[07:04:51] <Inari> I like young gouda cheese
L80[07:05:10] <LuMistry> That was a terrible joke Vexatos, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
L81[07:05:49] <LuMistry> That's good Inari. Are you grating the cheese for a specific meal now, or preparing it for later?
L82[07:06:02] <Inari> Just to snack it
L83[07:06:15] <LuMistry> I see
L84[07:06:52] <Vexatos> LuMistry, I'm Brielly sorry
L85[07:07:38] <LuMistry> I don't get the reference
L86[07:08:57] <Vexatos> that is not a reference.
L87[07:09:12] <LuMistry> Then why did you use the word Brielly?
L88[07:09:33] <Vexatos> because you complained about terrible puns?
L89[07:09:49] <Vexatos> so I made one more?
L90[07:09:51] <Vexatos> ._.
L91[07:09:53] <LuMistry> I don't get the pun though, which means it's probably even worse
L92[07:09:56] <Vexatos> ....
L93[07:10:05] <Vexatos> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brie
L94[07:10:14] <LuMistry> Oh
L95[07:10:20] <Vexatos> . _ .
L96[07:10:44] <LuMistry> That's something I'll have to fix then
L97[07:11:34] <MGR> https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/6t4184/summoned_to_court/
L98[07:11:52] <MGR> $Judge: Are you saying Mr $Selben while not in the car with you somehow forced you to speed? $Derp: Yes. He told me I had to rush into the office or my password would expire!
L99[07:12:02] <MGR> LOL
L100[07:13:30] <Mimiru> yeah... I love Selben's stories
L101[07:13:45] <MGR> They are indeed of high quality
L102[07:13:56] <Vexatos> I don't even care whether they are fiction or not
L103[07:14:11] <MGR> ?
L104[07:17:01] <MGR> Oh crap
L105[07:17:17] <MGR> I was reading the story comments and I remembered my vehicle registration is expiring
L106[07:17:27] <Corded> * <MGR> needs to fix that tonight
L107[07:20:34] <Mimiru> >tonight... Implying you can do it online.. which means I hate you, cause I have to go stab the county assessor in the head when I have to do it
L108[07:21:21] <MGR> Um, maybe I'm going to go stab the county assessor in the head tonight?
L109[07:21:31] <Mimiru> they close at like 4 here :/
L110[07:21:33] <Mimiru> which sucks..
L111[07:21:47] <MGR> I'm very dedicated, I will go to his/her home
L112[07:21:56] <Mimiru> cause it means I'm either late going in cause they open at 9... I have to miss my ENTIRE lunch, or I have to leave early
L113[07:22:05] <MGR> That's not fun
L114[07:27:40] <MGR> "As I turned around to ensure it had power I see $Senseless standing over the printer with a steak and blood dripping onto it. Blood." $Senseless: "You said to feed the printer"
L115[07:28:08] <MGR> I mean, don't LITERALLY feed printers....
L116[07:28:28] <Mimiru> oh gods lol yeah I saw that ._.
L117[07:28:52] <MGR> Cthulu was pleased though
L118[07:29:25] <Forecaster> Inkthulu
L119[07:29:32] <MGR> Yes
L120[07:30:15] <MGR> I was talking to my business partner on what to charge people for printer issues, and he suggested a million USD, I responded with saying that's not enough
L121[07:30:15] <Mimiru> I keep my printer appeased with my Star Wars collection above it
L122[07:30:22] <Mimiru> seems to work well
L123[07:30:33] <MGR> Good for you
L124[07:30:59] <MGR> My old printer barely works, but I barely use it, so I'm not motivated enough to spend money on replacing it
L125[07:31:20] <Mimiru> $35 HP, lol
L126[07:31:25] <Mimiru> the ink costs more than the printer...
L127[07:31:35] <MGR> Heh
L128[07:34:39] <Izaya> I know a guy that buys a new printer every time he wants to print something, rips the ink out and puts it in the existing one, till he can't, then he switches to the most common variety at the time
L129[07:35:13] <Mimiru> Not a horrible idea actually ._.
L130[07:35:26] <Izaya> I just use the printers at work
L131[07:35:36] <MGR> That doesn't seem cost effective....
L132[07:35:41] <Inari> Well, if enough people do that then you'd end up with more expensive printers
L133[07:35:49] <Izaya> $30 for a printer, $50 for ink. Cheaper.
L134[07:36:23] <MGR> Yeah, but you are spending $30 every time you print something
L135[07:36:34] <Izaya> meant every time he ran out of ink >.>
L136[07:36:48] <MGR> Oh
L137[07:37:02] <Inari> Heh
L138[07:37:05] <MGR> Then that makes a lot more sense
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L141[07:37:57] <Inari> http://eu.mouser.com/search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0virtualkey0virtualkey732-5 o.o
L142[07:39:27] <Corded> * <MGR> wishes that 25G Ethernet was cheaper and that he had a reason to use 25G Ethernet
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L145[07:47:53] <Corded> * <MGR> also remembers that besides registration renewal he heas to look at his grandmother's new laptop, which apparently has an issue that MGR will know "as soon as it starts up"
L146[07:48:32] <MGR> More likely, it's because AOL is running slow because she has ~10k emails (not joking)
L147[07:48:53] <MGR> Sometimes I feel like it's a race between her and her sister to accumulate the most emails, but her sister is winning by a wide margin
L148[07:49:06] <MGR> Over 100k emails, only 1k max with useful information
L149[07:49:35] <Forecaster> what is this AOL you speak of
L150[07:49:44] <MGR> IKR
L151[07:52:36] <MGR> @Forecaster She uses AOL for everything pretty much. It's hard to make her understand that her computer is not the AOL machine
L152[07:52:54] <MGR> She's an excellent grandmother, so I put up with it and keep helping, but it's funny/frustrating sometimes
L153[08:03:08] <Izaya> AOL is still a thing?
L154[08:03:45] <g> yep, AOL is a thing still
L155[08:03:49] <MGR> Izaya, unfortunately, yes
L156[08:03:54] <MGR> I think they merged with Yahoo
L157[08:04:38] <MGR> Ohhhh, AOL and Yahoo are both owned by Verizon
L158[08:08:41] <MGR> Worse yet, people still PAY AOL FOR EMAIL
L159[08:08:52] <Syrren> >people still pay for email period
L160[08:08:53] <MGR> Some of my family does....
L161[08:09:00] <MGR> Fair enough
L162[08:09:01] <Syrren> (except for privacy-focused offerings)
L163[08:10:11] <MGR> And AOL is not one of those ?
L164[08:10:28] <Syrren> no arguments there :-p
L165[08:11:18] <Syrren> @MGR: I have to ask, what's your opinion on running your own mailserver?
L166[08:11:56] <MGR> Uhm, I haven't ever done that. I don't know the advantages/disadvantages of doing so, so I'm not comfortable forming an opinion
L167[08:12:27] <Syrren> Sure. I haven't done it myself yet either... feels a bit silly to run it on a VPS, since privacy = 0 due to the host having absolute control anyway
L168[08:12:32] * Mimiru slides her mailserver out of sight
L169[08:12:38] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L170[08:12:45] <Syrren> I finally have a static IP as of last Monday, though, so I'm thinking about running one at home
L171[08:12:46] <MGR> I just use gmail
L172[08:13:10] <Syrren> Mimiru: are you running yours at home or in the cloud?
L173[08:13:13] <Forecaster> linux mail software is horrible
L174[08:13:24] <Mimiru> I've got a dedicated box
L175[08:13:39] <Mimiru> Forecaster, so very true..
L176[08:13:49] <Mimiru> which is why I have a "small" windows VM running hmailservert
L177[08:13:53] <Mimiru> s/t/
L178[08:13:55] <Mimiru> s/t//
L179[08:13:55] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> s//
L180[08:13:56] <Syrren> when you say dedicated do you mean "VPS with non-overprovisioned resources"?
L181[08:13:58] <Mimiru> damn it
L182[08:14:02] <Mimiru> s/rt//
L183[08:14:02] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> which is why I have a "small" windows VM running hmailserve
L184[08:14:05] <Mimiru> fuck it
L185[08:14:07] <Mimiru> I quit.
L186[08:14:11] <Mimiru> It's too early for this shit
L187[08:14:12] <Syrren> s/rve$/rver/
L188[08:14:12] <MichiBot> <Mimiru> which is why I have a "small" windows VM running hmailserver
L189[08:14:30] <Mimiru> sure, sure show off... :P
L190[08:14:51] <MGR> Lol
L191[08:14:52] <Mimiru> No, I mean a dedicated machine, sitting in a rack in an OVH data center
L192[08:15:01] <Syrren> ah, cool
L193[08:15:10] <Syrren> so you do actually have some level of privacy/security guarantees
L194[08:15:33] <Forecaster> I have a dedicated ubuntu box in my house
L195[08:15:47] <Forecaster> it has mail stuff on it, but it's barely working
L196[08:16:34] <Mimiru> windows VM runs hmail and hexchat.. with some other crap from time to time.
L197[08:16:53] <MGR> I could probably do it on my desktop computer, but the return is not high enough
L198[08:17:13] <MGR> Unless mail servers do magic
L199[08:17:29] <Forecaster> I originally set it up to allow my webserver to send emails
L200[08:17:41] <Forecaster> then I tried setting it up properly to use it to receive emails
L201[08:17:44] <Forecaster> it didn't go well
L202[08:18:19] <MGR> Huh
L203[08:18:27] <MGR> I may need one for something I'm developing then
L204[08:18:39] <MGR> Story for another day
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L206[08:22:39] <Jerry> miaowu
L207[08:22:59] <MGR> Hello
L208[08:24:56] <Jerry> @@!!dfas
L209[08:24:56] <Jerry> @@!!dfasfdasteqwfdasvcawrtgfrtbhytrniuymop9
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L211[08:25:15] <Forecaster> ...
L212[08:25:58] <MGR> Well now, that's no reason to be rude!
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L214[08:31:28] <Jerry> +asie
L215[08:31:38] <Jerry> A_D
L216[08:31:45] <A_D> ?
L217[08:32:02] <MGR> What?
L218[08:32:08] <A_D> can I help you Jerry?
L219[08:32:56] <A_D> :/
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L221[08:33:29] <MGR> ...
L222[08:33:41] <A_D> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
L223[08:33:47] <A_D> interesting
L224[08:33:49] <linuxdaemon> what even, lol
L225[08:33:55] <A_D> idk, it was pretty odd
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L227[08:33:57] * A_D runs
L228[08:34:10] * linuxdaemon drops prime numbers on A_D
L229[08:34:10] <MGR> It's been extremely odd
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L231[08:34:35] <A_D> thats them again
L232[08:34:37] <A_D> hmm
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L234[08:35:11] <A_D> and now there are two
L235[08:35:30] <MGR> Why are there two?
L236[08:35:36] <A_D> --> AnsenLIS (~ansenlis@183.240.27.89) has joined #oc
L237[08:35:38] <A_D> --> Jerry (~jerry@183.240.27.89) has joined #oc
L238[08:35:40] <A_D> same IP
L239[08:35:44] <MGR> Indeed
L240[08:35:56] <MGR> What client are they using?
L241[08:35:56] <A_D> using WocChat
L242[08:36:09] <Forecaster> mimiru halp
L243[08:36:12] <MGR> Could be two players on the same MC server?
L244[08:36:21] <Forecaster> could be
L245[08:36:30] <A_D> possibly
L246[08:36:39] <A_D> but they're not talking
L247[08:36:44] <MGR> Jerry, why are you here?
L248[08:36:48] <MGR> Please explain
L249[08:37:30] <Jerry> install wocchat
L250[08:37:41] <MGR> You HAVE wocchat
L251[08:37:52] <MGR> Are you experiencing difficulty in using it?
L252[08:38:54] <A_D> :/
L253[08:39:01] <A_D> mobile carrier
L254[08:39:03] <A_D> idk
L255[08:39:05] <A_D> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L256[08:39:11] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L257[08:39:17] <linuxdaemon> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L258[08:39:34] <AnsenLIS> We are learning hoe to play this mod
L259[08:39:40] <Corded> * <Forecaster> /¯(ツ)¯\
L260[08:39:43] <MGR> Ok
L261[08:40:04] <MGR> Maybe next time, you should say that earlier, instead of pinging random people
L262[08:40:09] <A_D> you alright there forecaster? looks like that hurts
L263[08:41:01] <Temia> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/327392287384403968/349545084041166850/image.png
L264[08:41:42] <MGR> AnsenLIS, is there anything in particular you are having trouble with/ want to learn about?
L265[08:41:56] * A_D goes back to listening to Pink Floyd
L266[08:42:30] <Forecaster> that's a system name http://tinyurl.com/y8nv8jh5
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L268[08:51:19] <Izaya> when I get a new router/internet plan I'm gonna do a mail server properly
L269[08:51:46] <Skye> Izaya, sending email is hard
L270[08:51:55] <Izaya> yup.
L271[08:52:34] <MGR> "Apparently, she only owned two or three cats when she was initially installed, which is how she became a customer, but over the course of seven years managed to get twenty-seven more cats." I'm having a really bad feeling about this story
L272[08:53:08] <Izaya> 29-30 cats
L273[08:53:10] <Izaya> damn
L274[08:53:26] <MGR> That's a crazy amount of cats. I wonder how big the apartment is.
L275[08:53:31] <Corded> * <MGR> imagines piles of cats
L276[08:54:11] <Skye> I want cats
L277[08:54:16] <MGR> I've been thinking about getting a cat, but two would be my absolute maximum
L278[08:54:25] <Izaya> Skye: get a cat
L279[08:54:26] <MGR> 29-30 cats is severely unhealthy
L280[08:54:30] <Izaya> one cat
L281[08:54:31] <Forecaster> we've had 5
L282[08:54:33] <Izaya> and a cheap one
L283[08:54:42] <Izaya> expensive ones are pricks
L284[08:54:46] <Michiyo> s/axi/ini/
L285[08:54:46] <MichiBot> <MGR> I've been thinking about getting a cat, but two would be my absolute minimum
L286[08:54:49] <Forecaster> at the same time, at most
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L288[08:54:49] <Michiyo> :P
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L290[08:56:25] <MGR> ......
L291[08:56:43] <MGR> No, I meant maximum
L292[08:56:55] <Izaya> s/axi/ini/
L293[08:56:56] <MichiBot> <MGR> No, I meant minimum
L294[08:57:09] <Izaya> s/No/Yes/
L295[08:57:09] <MichiBot> <MGR> Yes, I meant minimum
L296[08:57:38] <MGR> Wrong
L297[08:58:14] <Skye> shame cats can't speak
L298[08:58:59] <MGR> Meh
L299[08:59:06] <Izaya> s/Wrong/Right/
L300[08:59:06] <MichiBot> <MGR> Right
L301[08:59:20] <Izaya> Skye: you're looking at it wrong
L302[08:59:44] <MGR> Wrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong
L303[08:59:56] <Izaya> s/s can't speak/girls aren't available for domestic ownership yet/
L304[08:59:56] <MichiBot> <Skye> shame catgirls aren't available for domestic ownership yet
L305[09:00:05] <Izaya> :3
L306[09:00:07] <Skye> lol
L307[09:00:13] * Michiyo sighs
L308[09:00:27] <Skye> owning a catgirl would have negative connotations
L309[09:00:50] <Michiyo> After 3 weeks of my main drawer being $18 short from a large refund, and having to rotate through 3 99% empty fucking toner carts... I bought toner, and put my own fucking money in the fucking drawer.
L310[09:00:55] <Michiyo> I'm sick of this place.
L311[09:01:01] <Michiyo> I. Want. To. Move.
L312[09:01:02] <Michiyo> now.
L313[09:01:08] <MGR> ?
L314[09:01:19] <Izaya> so does drinking before midday, Skye. Never stopped me :D
L315[09:01:36] <Izaya> Michiyo: is moving doable?
L316[09:01:55] <Michiyo> I have the money to gas up my car, and go where I want to yes.
L317[09:01:58] <Skye> Izaya, problem: cats own humans not the other way around
L318[09:02:29] <Izaya> Skye: I, for one, welcome our new catgirl overlords
L319[09:02:34] <Izaya> can't go wrong tbh
L320[09:02:46] <Michiyo> It'll cost me ~$140 in gas to move, plus food. it's a 39 hour trip.
L321[09:03:00] <Michiyo> straight through... so I'll have to stop and sleep ofc..
L322[09:03:01] <Izaya> man, few hundred km eh?
L323[09:03:02] <Corded> * <Lizzy> promotes Izaya to a slightly higher-level of power
L324[09:03:15] <Michiyo> ~2300 miles so w/e in km.. lol
L325[09:03:17] <Izaya> \o/
L326[09:03:58] <Izaya> 3700km. Damn. That's like, here to Perth.
L327[09:04:02] <Skye> but what about wolfgirls and foxgirls and other-types-of-animal-girls
L328[09:04:19] <Lizzy> demigods
L329[09:04:29] <Izaya> Skye: cats are at the top so I guess it'd depend what they think
L330[09:04:34] <Lizzy> or demi-overlords/overladys
L331[09:05:47] <Skye> lol
L332[09:06:05] <Skye> I accept this new power structure
L333[09:06:13] <Skye> not sure where i'd be in it sadly
L334[09:06:17] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI4tLKGuJME unrelated
L335[09:06:20] <MichiBot> Midnight Oil - Blossom and Blood | length: 4m 24s | Likes: 23 Dislikes: 0 Views: 1,668 | by goncasworld | Published On 23/3/2015
L336[09:08:23] <Skye> I want to ask something but it might make me sound like a twat
L337[09:08:42] <Forecaster> with that in mind, ask anyway
L338[09:08:51] <Izaya> I want to say something but it would be mean :3
L339[09:09:18] <MGR> "He had a 20 foot USB cable going from his tower to this opening in his desk. The cable was connected to multiple USB hubs. I counted. There were 23 1TB external hard drives. All of them with permanent marker on them labeling them A, B, C, etc." uh wow
L340[09:09:42] <MGR> A backed up to B backed up to C backed up to etc.
L341[09:10:24] <Izaya> pretty sure he could've bought a cheap tape drive for less
L342[09:10:39] <MGR> Yes
L343[09:10:40] <Skye> People in other channels sometimes call me an angel (hence my profile picture), where would I fit in the catgirl overlord powerstructure.
L344[09:10:41] * Skye hides
L345[09:11:11] <MGR> Better yet, he didn't even back up his computer. He backed up a single Word file labeled Backup, which contained instructions on how to use the backup software
L346[09:11:25] <Lizzy> wow
L347[09:11:35] <Izaya> I thought you were nano, Skye
L348[09:11:57] <MGR> Your Discord avatar is an angel?
L349[09:12:54] <Izaya> can I delete a
L350[09:13:21] <Michiyo> I have friends who will give me a place to stay, I just need to get a job, then I can get my family out there..
L351[09:13:40] <Izaya> a folder from a git tree, permanently, from all revisions?
L352[09:14:10] <Izaya> lots of MB of pictures was not the best thing to add
L353[09:16:36] <Skye> https://twitter.com/VicNightfall/status/684820660342910980/
L354[09:16:58] <MGR> Ah
L355[09:16:58] <Lizzy> ooh
L356[09:17:19] <Izaya> on paper, nice
L357[09:18:14] <Lizzy> that looks cute :D
L358[09:18:19] <Lizzy> that looks cute :)
L359[09:20:41] <Skye> Lizzy, yeah, Vi's amazing. *_* their recent drawings are better though... but this one was for me so... ^^;;;
L360[09:22:48] <MGR> Bleh, I feel weird again today
L361[09:23:48] <Vi> Madness?
L362[09:23:54] <Corded> * <Lizzy> ponders
L363[09:24:07] <MGR> ?
L364[09:30:18] <Lizzy> ?
L365[09:30:40] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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L367[09:35:31] <Skye> what're you pondering @Lizzy?
L368[09:35:51] <Lizzy> drawing stuff
L369[09:36:10] <Skye> ah
L370[09:37:35] <MGR> Me: "What, did you find the problem already?" Tech: "Ya, It's full of ants." ---- MGR: Error: Computer full of bees
L371[09:38:54] <Vi> (Drawing is fun, can only recommend)
L372[09:39:13] <Forecaster> drawing is hard, avoid learning at all costs!
L373[09:39:51] <MGR> Today, I learned that formic acid counteracts fire ant venom
L374[09:43:50] <Izaya> Drawing is difficult when you have an A5 graphics tablet and a 16:9 screen
L375[09:45:21] <Inari> Life is hard, avoid existing at all costs!
L376[09:45:44] <MGR> Affirmative
L377[09:45:47] <Corded> * <MGR> ceases to exist
L378[09:45:54] <Forecaster> X is hard, avoid xisting at all costs!
L379[09:46:17] <Inari> Hah
L380[09:46:25] <Inari> I have a friend who's generally called "X" :P
L381[09:46:36] <Izaya> are they a professor?
L382[09:47:06] <Lizzy> find the value of x
L383[09:47:15] <Inari> I don't think so, no
L384[09:50:12] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y9q5ky5d
L385[09:50:13] <Forecaster> whooof
L386[09:50:18] <Forecaster> that was a close one
L387[09:50:49] <Inari> Heh
L388[09:51:14] <Corded> * <MGR> was going to ask what game, then realized Discord already says it
L389[09:51:44] <Skye> I like how OC has shipped @Natsumi and @Corded
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L391[09:58:22] <Michiyo> :P
L392[09:59:37] <Forecaster> I think that's mostly michi > . >
L393[10:03:12] <Inari> %give MichiBot Nenequest
L394[10:03:40] <Inari> %give MichiBot Nenequest
L395[10:03:45] * MichiBot accepts Nenequest and adds it to her inventory
L396[10:05:07] <MGR> Uggggggg. These shoes are pretty comfortable and were cheap, but the shoelaces constantly come untied. WHILE I AM SITTING STILL
L397[10:05:25] <Forecaster> Apply glue
L398[10:06:00] <MGR> I should
L399[10:06:53] <Michiyo> In my defense... I *THINK* Lizzy started it... I just continued it.
L400[10:08:15] <Forecaster> I have a gold ship paintjob for some reason...
L401[10:08:34] <Syrren> @Forecaster: I have to ask, what control method are you using for E:D? KB+M?
L402[10:08:48] <Syrren> I've been pondering E:D HOTAS for a while
L403[10:09:05] <Forecaster> I normally use a hotas setup, but it's not working correctly right now so I use an xbox controller right now
L404[10:09:13] <MGR> HOTAS?
L405[10:09:14] <Syrren> which HOTAS?
L406[10:09:16] <Forecaster> I normally use a hotas setup, but it's not working correctly right now so I use an xbox controller at the moment
L407[10:09:22] <Syrren> @MGR: Hands On Throttle And Stick
L408[10:09:26] <MGR> Ahhh
L409[10:09:41] <MGR> I have one in a cabinet somewhere
L410[10:09:45] <Syrren> the "hands on" bit refers to having all time-critical controls on the stick/throttle, which is good for VR
L411[10:10:02] <Forecaster> the throttle is an X55-rhino, the stick is a Mad Catz F.L.Y 5
L412[10:10:40] <Syrren> this? https://www.mightyape.com.au/product/mad-catz-f-l-y-5-flight-stick/19758529?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm7Cu7o_r1QIVEQUqCh1UjwdiEAYYASABEgLhPvD_BwE
L413[10:10:47] <Forecaster> yes
L414[10:11:07] <Syrren> such aggressive design, lol
L415[10:11:16] <Forecaster> ?
L416[10:11:24] <Syrren> poking-out bits and stuff
L417[10:11:46] <Syrren> I guess you could also qualify it as "sci-fi" style
L418[10:11:47] <Forecaster> the "wings" the throttles are mounted on fold in
L419[10:12:12] <MGR> My stick has like 3 trigger buttons or something
L420[10:12:23] <Syrren> compare the button layout to this: https://vkbcontrollers.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/MCG-Announce-Final-1.jpg
L421[10:12:29] <MGR> I haven't used it in around 2 years, because none of my games benefited
L422[10:13:00] <MGR> I don't think mine has that many buttons
L423[10:13:53] <Lizzy> @Skye I was the one that started it
L424[10:13:55] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yau4yoph
L425[10:14:08] <Skye> @Lizzy, lol
L426[10:14:13] <Dudblockman> We always used this guy in robotics. https://www.mightyape.com.au/product/logitech-extreme-3d-pro-joystick/1460995
L427[10:14:23] <Forecaster> oh wow, that was way less centered than I thought it was
L428[10:14:54] <Forecaster> I like the FLY5
L429[10:14:56] <Forecaster> it's good
L430[10:15:03] <Forecaster> unfortunately I managed to break a button off
L431[10:15:13] <Syrren> :(
L432[10:15:41] <Forecaster> the right bottom one at the top
L433[10:16:00] <Syrren> if you're looking for a replacement/upgrade, you might be interested in https://vkbcontrollers.com/?product=vkb-sim-gladiator
L434[10:16:01] <Forecaster> I'd like to find a glue that doesn't completely solidify to fix it
L435[10:16:17] <Forecaster> I tried using regular glue, but it just snapped right off when I pressed it
L436[10:16:31] <Syrren> they'll hopefully release one with the MCG grip soon (way more buttons)
L437[10:16:56] <Forecaster> that base doesn't look particularly stable
L438[10:17:12] <Syrren> it's got a metal plate at the bottom
L439[10:17:35] <Forecaster> that doesn't automatically make it stable
L440[10:17:49] <Syrren> no, but it explains the smaller base size
L441[10:17:51] <Forecaster> I'm concerned about sideways movements tipping the whole thing
L442[10:18:09] <Forecaster> which happens if I don't fold out the wings on the FLY5
L443[10:18:39] <Syrren> ah. I guess you're throwing it around side-to-side quite a bit for E:D?
L444[10:19:02] <Forecaster> in combat yeah
L445[10:20:16] <Inari> Grrrr
L446[10:20:27] <Inari> E:D stil lfrustrates me :P I want to like it, but it just doesn't offer much :|
L447[10:20:30] <Syrren> @Forecaster: https://www.reddit.com/r/hotas/comments/4u9rhm/vkb_gladiator_ch_throttle_pro_review/
L448[10:20:42] <Syrren> Inari: what have you been doing? combat, trading...?
L449[10:21:08] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yabsqpbx
L450[10:21:13] <Forecaster> pimp ship
L451[10:21:14] <Inari> Right now Ithink it's because it simulationy enoguh to have the annoying parts of a simulation (stuff taking time, following spaceport rules, etc) but not hte creative fun parts of a simulation
L452[10:22:27] <Syrren> @Forecaster: is that the AspX?
L453[10:22:32] <Inari> Syrren: Well just random stuff. Combat I suck too much at, trading it somewhat boring, I like the planetary landing stuff, but it seems like it would get repetitive very quickly
L454[10:22:36] <Forecaster> yes
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L456[10:22:48] <Inari> I also have no clue what an overall goal would be :D
L457[10:22:55] <Syrren> pimp ship indeed :P I currently have a Cobra and an Eagle
L458[10:23:44] <Syrren> Inari: once you upgrade your ship a bit you can run pax missions (I don't remember if the base Sidey can do pax, but I don't think it could) which adds some more variety
L459[10:23:44] <Forecaster> I bought a python yesterday
L460[10:23:49] <Forecaster> then got it blown up
L461[10:23:51] <Forecaster> :P
L462[10:23:56] <MGR> Lol
L463[10:23:57] <Inari> pax?
L464[10:24:03] <Syrren> passenger
L465[10:24:18] <MGR> I remember that I used to play a game, bought a ship, flew it around, immediately got it blown up
L466[10:24:23] <MGR> Cue angry MGR
L467[10:24:30] <MGR> It was a very expensive ship
L468[10:24:40] <Inari> I am also hopeful for them adding stations (to walk around on) and planets at some piont,a nd hopefully ability to build bases too :P Though hte last part is unlikely
L469[10:24:49] <Inari> Though also thinking planets will probably be just fancier moons
L470[10:25:02] <Syrren> base-building doesn't look like it's coming any time soon
L471[10:25:04] <Syrren> sadly
L472[10:25:32] <Inari> Maybe it's just because it feels like I can't really contribute anything to the world :P
L473[10:25:37] <Forecaster> I don't see walking around on stations adding anything substantial
L474[10:26:05] <Syrren> Inari: all players *do* have an effect on the economy, no matter how small. I do agree that it feels pretty small at times, though.
L475[10:26:14] <Inari> Dunno, gives the stations more of a meaning than some point I fly to for 5 minutes, and stay at fro 20 seconds
L476[10:26:53] <Syrren> walkable stations would be awesome, except for the "but what do you DO there?" bit
L477[10:27:05] <Syrren> now, if E:D was more of a combined-arms game... OH YES.
L478[10:27:18] <Inari> You go chat with people, for one
L479[10:27:29] <Syrren> imagine fighting for control of a planet (or outpost) with ships, ground units and infantry as well
L480[10:27:31] <Forecaster> how does extending your idle time at a station make it more important
L481[10:27:33] <Inari> I predicted that at launch already, but the galaxy is hilariously devoid of people
L482[10:27:37] <Syrren> (and suddenly E:D is planetside 3)
L483[10:28:24] <Forecaster> Syrren I doubt E:D is heading even remotely in that direction
L484[10:28:28] <Forecaster> for that you want SC
L485[10:28:31] <Syrren> Yeah, I know that it's wishful thinking
L486[10:28:45] <Syrren> SC is still in the kinda-vaporware stage, isn't it?
L487[10:28:50] <Inari> YeahI'm waiting for SC
L488[10:28:51] <MGR> Star Citizen?
L489[10:28:54] <Inari> 3.0 still takes a while though
L490[10:28:58] <Syrren> @MGR: yeah
L491[10:29:03] <Forecaster> probably
L492[10:29:06] <MGR> Ah ok, that's what I thought
L493[10:29:08] <Forecaster> I don't pay much attention to it
L494[10:29:10] <Inari> Syrren: I think E:D feels just all too streamlined in a way
L495[10:29:14] <Forecaster> I have 0 interest in it
L496[10:29:19] <MGR> My pet theory is that it's a very successful long con
L497[10:29:41] <Syrren> well... they're using CryEngine. For a space game.
L498[10:29:52] <Inari> Heavily modded CryEngine :P
L499[10:29:52] <Syrren> this tells me that they're going for "pretty" over "functional", which is sad
L500[10:30:05] <Inari> Functional how?
L501[10:30:41] <MGR> They discarded CryEngine in favor of Amazon Lumeryard
L502[10:30:44] <MGR> Lumberyard*
L503[10:30:52] <Syrren> complex ship physics models, non-trivial range of speeds (*cough* starmade *cough*) etc...
L504[10:31:34] <Inari> Seems to work faailry well so far at least
L505[10:31:52] <Syrren> I haven't looked at it in any depth for a year or so now, so maybe
L506[10:31:56] <Inari> Not sure what you mean with the speeds xD It has the usual
L507[10:32:09] <Syrren> have you played/seen starmade?
L508[10:32:14] <Inari> Noraml speed, boosting, jumping
L509[10:32:16] <Syrren> tl;dr: minecraft IN SPACE!
L510[10:32:31] <Syrren> complete with javashit and bugs bugs BUGS
L511[10:32:33] <Inari> Yeah, never got past it's interface and it seemed too meh otherwise
L512[10:32:42] <MGR> in SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE is what you mean Syrren
L513[10:32:45] <Syrren> yes
L514[10:32:54] <MGR> always insert the extra A's ?
L515[10:32:55] <Syrren> (I was referencing tvtropes rather than Space Core)
L516[10:33:04] <MGR> I know
L517[10:33:14] <Corded> * <MGR> spends way too much time on tvtropes
L518[10:33:17] <Syrren> don't we all
L519[10:33:51] <Forecaster> I like Starmade except it's one of those games you need other people to play with
L520[10:34:05] <Forecaster> and playing on a server with random people generally doesn't appeal to me
L521[10:34:14] <Syrren> and fucking 50km/h ship speed limit
L522[10:34:29] <Inari> But yeah, S:C's engine is pretty amazing
L523[10:34:30] <MGR> What?
L524[10:34:46] <Syrren> I think it's 100km/h now, but still
L525[10:34:47] <Forecaster> that's probably configurable
L526[10:34:48] <MGR> Spaceships can go faster than 50 km/s, 50 km/h is turtle
L527[10:35:00] <Syrren> 1) Starmade's units are fucked
L528[10:35:06] <MGR> And I'm talking a spaceship that can be built right now
L529[10:35:07] <Syrren> 2) Starmade's collision system is EVEN MORE fucked
L530[10:35:19] <MGR> Discounting Project Orion, despite how cool it is
L531[10:35:20] <Syrren> combination of same results in the dumb speed limit
L532[10:35:29] <MGR> Ah
L533[10:36:20] <Forecaster> I'd love to use my hotas, but the main problem with is the throttle buttons not behaving
L534[10:36:45] <Forecaster> sometimes for some of the switches it sends a ton of button presses to the game
L535[10:36:49] <Syrren> :<
L536[10:37:05] <Forecaster> I've read that it's because it doesn't get enough power, but I have it connected through a powered hub
L537[10:37:19] <MGR> You need MOAR POWAH
L538[10:37:21] <Lizzy> the only issue i have with my HOTAS is the button that's assigned to engine boost in E:D doesn't work
L539[10:37:24] <MGR> Tim Taylor Technology
L540[10:37:40] <MGR> Lizzy, I'm assuming you can't change the key binding?
L541[10:37:54] <Forecaster> of course you can
L542[10:37:55] <Syrren> you can change all the bindings in E:D
L543[10:38:12] <MGR> Then why is Lizzy binding a key to a broken button?
L544[10:38:12] <Lizzy> i can, and i did fix the actual button at some point, but then it broke again and i haven't played E:D enough recently to fix it
L545[10:38:16] <MGR> Ah
L546[10:47:11] <Michiyo> Samurai Jack is getting a BluRay release...
L547[10:47:11] <Michiyo> nice
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L550[11:02:53] <Inari> Hrm
L551[11:03:02] <Inari> Why's there no OCR that lets me hand it a bitmap of a font <.<
L552[11:03:51] <Forecaster> for what?
L553[11:04:03] <Inari> Reading stuff in a known font
L554[11:04:06] <Skye> Inari, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-B
L555[11:04:12] <Skye> Inari, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-a
L556[11:04:15] <Skye> Inari, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-a
L557[11:04:17] <Skye> Inari, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OCR-A
L558[11:04:20] <Skye> there we go
L559[11:04:24] <Skye> sorry I mistyped
L560[11:04:43] <Skye> A is used on bank cards
L561[11:04:47] <Inari> Those ar efonts
L562[11:04:48] <Skye> B is used on licence plates I think
L563[11:05:07] <gamax92> Skye
L564[11:05:09] <Inari> I want a software which I hand images of letters :P
L565[11:05:39] <Syrren> Inari: there are a few OCR systems that you can train yourself, but none of the ones I found were any good at their task
L566[11:05:55] <Skye> gamax92?
L567[11:06:03] <Inari> Tried Tesseract, but it fails to read the diacrtiic
L568[11:06:33] <gamax92> train a neural network
L569[11:06:50] <Inari> Seems too much of a pain :P
L570[11:06:58] <MGR> I'd like to do neural network training on my GPU, just to see how fast it is
L571[11:07:03] <Inari> I'd much rather just have it process the image, hand it images of hte letters and have it match them
L572[11:07:16] <Syrren> Inari: did you set tesseract's language?
L573[11:07:26] <Inari> Don't think so
L574[11:07:32] <Syrren> @MGR: you might be interested in http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/
L575[11:07:49] <Syrren> given your mention of diacritics, you want to make sure you've set the correct language/character set
L576[11:08:26] <Inari> Well
L577[11:08:31] <Inari> ther eisn't much to set it to other than "English2
L578[11:08:44] <Syrren> you might need to download a language pack or whatever
L579[11:08:57] <Inari> I mean
L580[11:09:11] <Inari> What would I set it too thats "English but with the regular diacritics"
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L582[11:09:51] <Syrren> iunno? maybe there's some "english-intl"?
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L584[11:10:02] <Inari> Doesn't seem like there is
L585[11:10:05] <Syrren> do you have a lot of diacritics? might be worth putting those in manually afterwards
L586[11:10:06] <MGR> Syrren, thank you
L587[11:10:13] <MGR> I'll be in need of a neural network in the future
L588[11:10:19] <Inari> If I wanted to do things manually I wouldn't use OCR :D
L589[11:10:37] <Syrren> @MGR: I did a major semester project at uni using that lib, feel free to ask me questions about it :P
L590[11:10:40] <MGR> Although it looks like machine vision, which I won't need until further off
L591[11:10:49] <MGR> But still useful
L592[11:11:02] <MGR> Thank you Syrren. It'll probably be several months though.
L593[11:11:43] <Syrren> also, while Caffe is most often used for images (and convolutional networks) I believe it can also be applied to similar non-image tasks
L594[11:12:30] <MGR> Ah
L595[11:12:45] <MGR> Well, I have 0 experience in the field, so expect lots of questions in a few months ?
L596[11:12:58] <Syrren> my project was an attempt to classify (FFT of) bird song/calls using a pre-trained image recogniser
L597[11:13:19] <MGR> My project is.... more extensive
L598[11:13:33] <Syrren> so, what're you trying to do?
L599[11:13:58] <MGR> I'm not going to say, for fear of saying stuff that I can't ever possibly do
L600[11:14:14] <MGR> Once I get working on it, then I'll get a better feel for things, and make a prioritized task list
L601[11:14:24] * Syrren points to RTS concept he posted earlier
L602[11:14:34] <Syrren> I talk about stuff I know I'll never do all the time :-P
L603[11:14:44] <MGR> Ah. Not my style though
L604[11:15:01] <Syrren> \o/
L605[11:15:26] <Syrren> Only reason I ask for details is in case we can put your plans on a better track given more details
L606[11:15:57] <Syrren> e.g. you might want RNN or LSTM networks instead of conventional or convolutional networks
L607[11:16:25] <MGR> Ah
L608[11:16:26] <Syrren> (RNN = Recurrent Neural Network, LSTM = Long/Short Term Memory)
L609[11:16:33] <Inari> %pet Temia
L610[11:16:34] * MichiBot pets Temia with an Inari Bot. Temia recovers 1 health!
L611[11:16:38] <Syrren> haha
L612[11:16:41] <MGR> Well, I have lots of stuff to work on before I get to anything using neural networking
L613[11:16:44] <MGR> I'll hit you up then
L614[11:16:49] <Syrren> ;)
L615[11:16:53] <MGR> ?
L616[11:17:13] <Syrren> a pretty cool blog article about LSTM: http://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/
L617[11:17:47] <MGR> I will read that
L618[11:18:58] <Syrren> tl;dr: they tried training networks to generate correct-looking data
L619[11:19:32] <Syrren> starting from Paul Graham's essays and Shakespeare, only getting crazier from there
L620[11:20:27] <MGR> Well, if I want to train it with Shakespeare, I can just irritate Gavle and have him speak to the network XD
L621[11:20:48] <Syrren> lol
L622[11:21:09] <Syrren> they also gave it wikipedia markup, LaTeX source, and C source code
L623[11:21:26] <Syrren> the generated wikipedia markup was (iirc) valid, including tables
L624[11:21:37] <Syrren> the LaTeX was almost valid, requiring only a bit of manual tweaking to compile
L625[11:21:55] <Syrren> C source didn't compile, but looks really good until examined closely :P
L626[11:22:39] <MGR> heh
L627[11:22:55] <MGR> What if I strapped together 300 GPUs and had a neural network self improve itself?
L628[11:23:11] <MGR> One morning, we all wake up to mushroom clouds?
L629[11:23:27] <Skye> no it'd probably just be spewing nonsense as it goes mad
L630[11:23:27] <Forecaster> what if we redundantly state redundant things? :D
L631[11:24:09] <Syrren> current neural networks have far too much trouble with unbalanced training sets to go mushroom
L632[11:25:02] <MGR> @Forecaster See, to understand recursion, you must first understand recursion
L633[11:25:13] <MGR> And I know Syrren, just a bit of humor
L634[11:25:30] <MGR> Also semi-suspected secret origin story of LuMistry
L635[11:25:34] <Syrren> :-P
L636[11:25:44] <LuMistry> No.
L637[11:27:41] <Forecaster> I just realized I'd been flying the gold paintjob for a while
L638[11:28:50] <Forecaster> also syrren feel free to add me in E:D if you want
L639[11:28:56] <Forecaster> you can never guess what my name is
L640[11:29:42] <Syrren> The same as here, I bet :P
L641[11:30:07] <Forecaster> impossible!
L642[11:30:35] <Syrren> I actually don't remember which of my nicks I used for E:D, I'll have to check ingame, brb
L643[11:31:27] <MGR> My name is always either MGR, MajGenRelativity, or the preferred version: MajorGeneralRelativity, unless it's an extremely old account, and few of those are left alive
L644[11:31:52] <Forecaster> so, completely unpredictable :P
L645[11:31:54] <MGR> Alas, the preferred version almost always exceeds character limits ?
L646[11:32:06] <MGR> @Forecaster I know! You'd never see me coming in a game
L647[11:32:20] <Forecaster> no
L648[11:32:35] <Forecaster> I mean "my name is always <lists a pretty large number of options>"
L649[11:32:50] <Forecaster> my name is either Forecaster or Forecaster71
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L651[11:33:17] <Temia> I am uncomfortable with this D:
L652[11:33:19] <Syrren> @Forecaster I just added you
L653[11:33:35] <Syrren> I'd PM you my E:D nick but you're on Discord so I can't PM you
L654[11:33:37] <Forecaster> so I see
L655[11:33:48] <Forecaster> yes you can
L656[11:33:56] <Syrren> oh, you're on IRC too
L657[11:34:04] <Forecaster> I mean you can msg people on discord
L658[11:34:07] <Syrren> ...how?!
L659[11:34:13] <Forecaster> msg corded
L660[11:34:21] <Syrren> what's the syntax?
L661[11:34:30] <Forecaster> with the first word being the name of the person you want to target I think
L662[11:34:42] <Forecaster> but it's irrelevant, the friend request adds us to eachother...
L663[11:34:45] <Forecaster> it's not one-way
L664[11:35:07] <Syrren> yeah, I know
L665[11:36:56] <Syrren> 02:06:25 <Corded> Syrren no u
L666[11:36:57] <Syrren> ...?!
L667[11:37:04] <Michiyo> IIRC.. and this is sad, I wrote the damn feature, it's DiscordName: MEssage
L668[11:37:11] <Michiyo> or "Discord Name":Merp
L669[11:37:16] <Michiyo> err : Merp*
L670[11:37:29] <MGR> What?
L671[11:37:38] <MGR> "Syrren no u" what does that even mean?!
L672[11:37:45] <Syrren> I got that in PM from Corded somehow
L673[11:37:49] <Syrren> it wasn't prefixed
L674[11:37:51] <Michiyo> Yes, /msg Corded Mimiru: Hi works.
L675[11:38:05] <Syrren> I wasn't sure if it was a bug or someone with direct bot control was messing around
L676[11:38:14] * Michiyo shrugs
L677[11:38:16] <Michiyo> it worked for me..
L678[11:38:23] <Michiyo> it was never really well tested, and broke a lot.
L679[11:38:41] <MGR> Mimiru, corded PM'ing works, I confirmed as much today
L680[11:39:20] <Michiyo> yeah, it works both ways for me, so IDK
L681[11:39:24] <Michiyo> so.. again
L682[11:39:25] * Michiyo shrugs
L683[11:40:03] <Michiyo> I'm the only one with console access to Corded, and.. iirc corded doesn't have a console listener anyway so I couldn't directly send messages anyway.
L684[11:40:07] <Syrren> \o/
L685[11:40:16] <Syrren> might've been a bug I guess.
L686[11:40:28] <Syrren> 02:10:18 <Forecaster> what about this?
L687[11:40:30] <Syrren> prefixed just fine
L688[11:40:38] <Forecaster> the first time I didn't use :
L689[11:40:44] <Michiyo> ah, yeah.. gotta use :
L690[11:40:45] <Michiyo> both ways
L691[11:40:54] <Syrren> funny how I got the message anyway :P
L692[11:41:10] <Michiyo> Yeah, you get the message... but it breaks the parser, so it goes derp..
L693[11:41:48] <Michiyo> I really dislike Corded... I don't care for JDA much, but I CBA to write my own bot.
L694[11:42:05] <Michiyo> Yui seems VERY over engineered
L695[11:42:18] <Michiyo> But then again, so do most Java projects.
L696[11:44:41] <Syrren> \o/
L697[11:50:48] <MGR> "No it isn't! Okay, you see the titlebar right there? The one that says 'Internet Explorer'? That means you don't have Firefox open there. It's IE." User: "I changed my default browser though!"
L698[12:13:06] <Forecaster> http://owlturd.com/post/164458167929/disclaimer-eclipse-or-not-absolutely-never-look
L699[12:14:40] <Syrren> pffffft
L700[12:31:02] <Forecaster> :P
L701[12:42:40] <MGR> What. I'm looking at a report listing off some devices, and the only information for location is a floor number and "left"
L702[12:42:49] <MGR> And then another device on the same floor with "right"
L703[12:56:43] <Michiyo> Ok... time to figure out why network is shit on my VMs..
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L705[12:57:11] <Michiyo> and also reboot michibot... oops
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L708[12:58:20] <Michiyo> seriously though... wtf is this shit
L709[12:58:25] <Michiyo> https://michi.pc-logix.com/kitty_portable_2017-08-22_12-58-12.png left is VM right is Dedi...
L710[12:59:34] <payonel> Michiyo: what vm software? network settings, network type and throttle?
L711[13:00:19] <Michiyo> sadly it's Virtual Box, the only thing I could find that'd quickly boot ESXi images that wasn't ESXi, or VMWare Player. Xen wanted me to convert the images which was going to take *hours*
L712[13:00:35] <Michiyo> network type is bridged, nics are... well honestly I forget off the top of my head ._.
L713[13:01:48] <payonel> Michiyo: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#network_bandwidth_limit
L714[13:01:54] <payonel> i don't know, but maybe worth reading
L715[13:02:03] <Michiyo> https://michi.pc-logix.com/vcxsrv_2017-08-22_13-01-57.png
L716[13:02:30] <payonel> there might be more info via cli
L717[13:02:35] <payonel> i dont know
L718[13:02:56] <payonel> i use vbox everyday, but i haven't had this issue, nor have i even tried to limit nic
L719[13:03:23] <Michiyo> I've never had network speed issues like this before.. I've had other performance issues though
L720[13:03:36] <Michiyo> but I still use it a lot.
L721[13:03:42] <Michiyo> I LOVED ESXi
L722[13:04:33] <Michiyo> but I switched hardware to a hard raid... and it wasn't in the OVH images anymore.
L723[13:04:34] <Michiyo> sooo
L724[13:05:35] <Michiyo> I'm gonna shutdown bast, and switch nics..
L725[13:05:40] <Michiyo> so, brb
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L727[13:11:56] <Inari> https://twitter.com/ExpertBeginner1/status/900046619999178752
L728[13:11:56] <MichiBot> Tue Aug 22 12:26:50 CDT 2017 @ExpertBeginner1: I'm sick of the hysteria about global variables. We've used them for years and as long as you don't touch the code much, everything's fine.
L729[13:12:09] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH2bYSLXYAA1yxh.jpg:large nice tail
L730[13:17:40] <Mimiru> Well that didn't worj
L731[13:17:45] <Mimiru> Work either
L732[13:19:07] <LuMistry> %ohno
L733[13:19:07] <MichiBot> ohno
L734[13:19:17] <Inari> %ohyes
L735[13:19:21] <Inari> :<
L736[13:19:32] <LuMistry> No
L737[13:20:02] <Inari> https://media.tenor.com/images/ecad438e52beccce29765710049c375a/tenor.gif
L738[13:21:57] <LuMistry> Uh
L739[13:23:31] <gamax92> hungry
L740[13:23:38] <Inari> Hmm
L741[13:23:45] <gamax92> Inari: help
L742[13:23:50] <Inari> A hack'n'slash may be nice now, but I also don't know any goo dones unless I want to reinstall diablo 2
L743[13:23:59] <payonel> gamax92: i put process.running back in and tested ocemu
L744[13:24:02] <Inari> %give gamax92 random
L745[13:24:03] * MichiBot gives gamax92 Apple Pie from her inventory
L746[13:24:06] <Inari> There you go
L747[13:24:10] <gamax92> wow you got lucky
L748[13:24:16] <Inari> I always do
L749[13:24:21] <Inari> %pet AmandaC
L750[13:24:22] * MichiBot brushes AmandaC with red dot. AmandaC recovers 4 health!
L751[13:24:24] <Inari> See
L752[13:24:45] <LuMistry> Maybe you're controlling MichiBot
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L755[13:25:10] * AmandaC attacks the red dot viciously,then wonders who's attacking her
L756[13:25:18] <Inari> %stab LuMistry
L757[13:25:18] * MichiBot slaps LuMistry with an orange oil lamp doing [10] damage
L758[13:25:24] <Inari> SOmetimes not I guess
L759[13:25:41] <Skye> AmandaC, once catgirls are invented they will take over the world.
L760[13:25:42] <LuMistry> %stab Inari
L761[13:25:43] * MichiBot strikes Inari with red pants doing [6] damage
L762[13:25:52] <Inari> :<
L763[13:26:13] <Forecaster> lots of colored items
L764[13:26:19] <LuMistry> Yes
L765[13:27:05] <Forecaster> %give MichiBot a monochrome rainbow
L766[13:27:06] * MichiBot accepts the monochrome rainbow and adds it to her inventory
L767[13:36:06] <gamax92> @Forecaster orange oil is not colored oil but oil from an orange
L768[13:36:28] <Michiyo> windows shows 308/584
L769[13:36:33] <Forecaster> oh, right
L770[13:36:45] <Forecaster> I read that as an oil lamp colored orange
L771[13:36:48] <Michiyo> which.. is better than linux on the other nic type.. windows is on the intel pro line nic
L772[13:37:51] <gamax92> do you have routing issues?
L773[13:37:59] <Michiyo> not that I know of..
L774[13:38:09] <gamax92> like linux is trying to use the wrong interfaces first before finally using the one that has internet
L775[13:38:26] <Michiyo> I wouldn't even know how to check :D
L776[13:44:43] <AmandaC> ip r
L777[13:45:19] <AmandaC> ^ That might tell you
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L781[13:46:06] <Michiyo> %p
L782[13:46:08] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 1.01s
L783[13:50:14] <Michiyo> %p
L784[13:50:15] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.3s
L785[13:50:32] <AmandaC> Ping timeout, No reply received in 10,000,000 Solar cycles.
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L787[14:02:07] <Michiyo> :P
L788[14:05:02] <Michiyo> Ok.. in theory.. I just switch Hekate to Intel, or virtio..
L789[14:06:04] <Michiyo> So.. fuck it let's find out..
L790[14:06:30] <Michiyo> restarting hekate.. so, it'll brb
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L793[14:07:07] <Michiyo> ~25% of the channel disconnects
L794[14:07:08] <Michiyo> :p
L795[14:07:27] <CompanionCube> heh
L796[14:07:35] <Michiyo> well, eventually times out anyway..
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L805[14:24:04] <Michiyo> on intel.. it's a lot better...
L806[14:24:04] <Michiyo> huh
L807[14:24:37] <Michiyo> I mean it's not amazing.. but 3~400/1~200
L808[14:24:43] <Michiyo> is A LOT better than 130/30
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L815[14:57:58] <Michiyo> Download: 833.74 Mbit/s Upload: 220.73 Mbit/s Hot damn
L816[15:02:39] <Forecaster> praise be the computer goblins
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L823[16:35:36] <Kodos> It's too early for this shit
L824[16:35:45] <Kodos> Was scrolling up and I'd have sworn Michiyo said I LOVE SEX...
L825[16:35:57] <Michiyo> o_O
L826[16:35:58] <Michiyo> O_o
L827[16:36:01] <Michiyo> Well.. I mean..
L828[16:36:03] <Michiyo> But..
L829[16:36:07] <Michiyo> No, not here.
L830[16:36:19] <Kodos> You said I loved ESXI
L831[16:36:49] <Michiyo> lol, yeah
L832[16:41:45] <Forecaster> It's never too early to misread things
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L835[16:53:01] <gamax92> looking for a lua css parser
L836[16:54:55] <gamax92> well I can just write this in js I suppose.
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L841[17:34:23] <Izaya> css syntax is simple enough
L842[17:34:44] <Izaya> element { property: value; }
L843[17:37:10] <gamax92> Izaya: you forgot all of the at-rules
L844[17:37:54] <gamax92> also sometimes there's not a semicolon after the value
L845[17:38:51] <gamax92> multiple elements can be specified, delimited by comma
L846[17:39:01] <gamax92> comments
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L853[18:31:29] <AmandaC> gamax92: no he didn't, he just lives in the 90s where that was actually all there is.
L854[18:41:00] <CompanionCube> lol
L855[18:41:05] <Corded> * <MGR> gets called in for AOL support by grandmother
L856[18:41:13] <MGR> My grandmother says her computer is running very slow
L857[18:41:15] <MGR> So I start it up
L858[18:41:31] <MGR> Guess what's using 30% CPU and 100% Disk Time ON STARTUP
L859[18:43:48] <AmandaC> Bonzi Buddy?
L860[18:44:36] <MGR> Nope
L861[18:44:44] <MGR> There's a clue in my first sentence
L862[18:48:52] <CompanionCube> AOL?
L863[18:48:59] <MGR> Ding ding ding!
L864[18:49:07] <MGR> You win a prize CompanionCube!
L865[18:49:11] <AmandaC> Lies, nobody uses AOL anymore. Not since they were threw around like a hot potato.
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L867[18:49:33] <MGR> AmandaC, it gets better
L868[18:49:40] <MGR> McAfee is in on this too
L869[18:50:03] <AmandaC> A lie that's been debunked can't get more convincing, silly mgr
L870[18:50:15] <MGR> Hold on, I'm uploading proof
L871[18:50:32] <AmandaC> Pfft, it's clearly photoshopped
L872[18:51:00] <MGR> http://tinyurl.com/y9jr24vj
L873[18:51:28] <MGR> Tada
L874[18:51:42] <AmandaC> Sorry, "been enhanced using Adobe™ Photoshop™ Studio™
L875[18:52:10] <MGR> A. I don't think there's that many trademarks. B. No.
L876[18:52:50] <AmandaC> Maybe one less, but that's how Adobe is trying to de-kleenix themselves
L877[18:53:02] <MGR> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L878[18:53:09] <MGR> In any case, that's real
L879[18:53:19] <MGR> It even has the derpy lines that comes from taking a picture of a screen
L880[18:53:33] <Mimiru> clearly an instagram filter
L881[18:53:50] <MGR> I don't have any social media accounts other than a G+ account I no longer use
L882[18:54:01] <AmandaC> And clearly not quite the fault of either program, as it's two installers as the top two
L883[18:54:14] <MGR> McAfee is already installed though
L884[18:54:26] <MGR> Admittedly, Dell is installing an update too, but usually that isn't at the top
L885[18:54:29] <AmandaC> Updating, probably
L886[18:54:54] <Corded> * <MGR> continues to blame AOL and Mcaffee for everything that's wrong with life
L887[18:55:20] <MGR> In all seriousness, usually it's regular McAfee and AOL at the top
L888[18:55:27] <MGR> I'll take another picture when the driver update is done
L889[18:55:55] * AmandaC continues reviewing the evidence found in the shack in the woods recently raided by her agents (so, ignoring IRC and watching anime)
L890[18:56:34] <MGR> Yes of course, your agents beat mine there
L891[18:56:35] * Mimiru wonders if one of her shacks was compromised and checks all statuses.
L892[18:56:46] <MGR> But only this once
L893[18:57:42] <Mimiru> %w 72396
L894[18:57:43] <MichiBot> Current weather for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 84.9°F/29.4°C Feels Like: 96°F/35°C Current Humidity: 78% Wind: From the NE 2.0 Mph/3.2 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L895[18:57:53] <Mimiru> Hmm... off by a 1...
L896[18:58:40] <Mimiru> s/84/184/
L897[18:58:50] <Mimiru> nope.. weather doesn't use the new command output lol
L898[19:01:08] <AmandaC> I conducted infinite raids in parallel across the entire multiverse.
L899[19:01:15] * AmandaC nod-nods
L900[19:01:22] * AmandaC wanders off to watch anime for real now
L901[19:02:32] <Dudblockman> Its not a BAAAD thing, but I have Cruel Angel's Thesis stuck in my head. Halp.
L902[19:04:01] <AmandaC> Unfortunately, it fractured space-time and now it's all broken.
L903[19:04:29] <CompanionCube> onoes
L904[19:08:42] <Corded> * <MGR> begins uninstalling bloatware
L905[19:55:27] *** Guest56440 is now known as payonel
L906[19:55:38] zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L907[19:55:44] <payonel> o/
L908[19:57:27] <Izaya> \o
L909[20:02:42] <CompanionCube> Izaya: so i tried to run the urn thing in OCEmu. Doesn't work :(
L910[20:02:58] <Izaya> RIP
L911[20:03:40] <CompanionCube> debugging would be a wee bit annoying, considering the optimized lua source is 9kloc
L912[20:03:52] <CompanionCube> before the error
L913[20:06:18] <CompanionCube> is there anything special about OC's string.find?
L914[20:06:44] <payonel> well yes, insomuch that all string methods are sandboxed
L915[20:06:52] <payonel> string methods are implemented in the machine.lua
L916[20:07:27] <CompanionCube> as far as I can tell, this is the lisp code it dies on: https://github.com/SquidDev/urn/blob/master/urn/cli.lisp#L49
L917[20:08:24] <CompanionCube> string/find bottoms out the native implementation
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L919[21:10:06] <gamax92> CompanionCube: ?
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L921[21:11:04] <CompanionCube> gamax92: I was just testing if someone would run under OC without actually booting minecraft
L922[21:11:22] <gamax92> does it run in minecraft though
L923[21:12:11] <CompanionCube> I haven't tried that (and I'd rather wait)
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