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L1[00:00:24] <Vindex> Aww?
L2[00:01:14] <Vindex> This is especially aww for older versions which could go defunct and nobody will ever fix them
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L9[02:02:34] <Izaya> We should write a better version of pastebin
L10[02:02:45] <Izaya> that can use lots of different services
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L13[02:32:51] <Forecaster> hah, okay
L14[02:33:01] <Forecaster> if you un-name a robot in an anvil the item is named robot.name
L15[02:33:08] <Forecaster> Robot.name*
L16[02:33:15] <Forecaster> and it gets a random name every time you place it
L17[02:38:11] <Forecaster> uuh
L18[02:38:21] <Forecaster> "too many components connected to the computer"
L19[02:38:26] <Forecaster> :I
L20[02:38:29] <Forecaster> in a robot
L21[02:38:34] <Forecaster> never had that happen before >:
L22[02:43:42] <payonel> anyone know what the internet.request().response() is if called before the remote host has responded?
L23[02:44:13] <Forecaster> I'd guess nil
L24[02:44:24] <payonel> actually, i think you're right
L25[02:44:28] <payonel> case _ => result(Unit)
L26[03:46:31] <Forecaster> hm
L27[03:46:42] <Forecaster> how do I compare a slot with a slot in a database
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L29[03:47:38] <Forecaster> oh, I need to generate a hash using the database, then search for the hash
L30[03:52:00] <Forecaster> ugh, if only you could scroll up...
L31[03:52:08] <Forecaster> I hate that robots have such small screens
L32[03:54:07] <Forecaster> payonel: scrolling plz? :>
L33[03:59:28] <Forecaster> oh wait, it computes a hash of the item in the database
L34[03:59:35] <Forecaster> :I
L35[03:59:45] <Forecaster> how do I compare a slot in the robots inventory
L36[04:11:29] <Forecaster> oh, you have to use labels
L37[04:11:32] <Forecaster> :I
L38[04:11:44] <Forecaster> why can't the database just generate a hash from an inventory slot
L39[04:13:53] <Forecaster> :I
L40[04:14:15] <Forecaster> would avoid a lot of unecessary iteration
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L43[04:35:53] <Forecaster> sigh
L44[04:35:55] <Forecaster> such a pain
L45[04:36:20] <Forecaster> I don't even need the database
L46[04:36:31] <Forecaster> I might as well store the item names or something
L47[04:41:23] <Kodos> Honestly, I think the database is mostly useful when paired with using AE2
L48[04:42:02] <Kodos> Beyond that, I've found stringing together the side, slot, amount, and item label into a hash works well enough
L49[04:42:13] <Kodos> And can be done with a transposer or adapter with an inventory controller
L50[04:42:21] <Forecaster> yeah
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L52[04:42:27] <Forecaster> the database seems quite useless
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L54[04:42:42] <Kodos> Indeed, it is, when you're not using AE2. Even then though, it feels a bit convoluted
L55[04:42:49] <Kodos> And not at all what I'd expect from an item called database
L56[04:43:13] <Kodos> Some time ago, I'd been working on a pseudo database system using tables, but it was a pain in the arse
L57[04:43:27] <Forecaster> it'd be great if it could generate hashes from inventory controller slots and internal slots (robot)
L58[04:43:33] <Forecaster> that you could then compare with the database
L59[04:43:48] <Kodos> You probably could if you just used amounts and item labels
L60[04:43:54] <Kodos> Since slots would get... messy
L61[04:43:56] <Kodos> When trying to use the db
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L63[04:44:36] <Forecaster> I mean using the same method the internal hash generate function uses
L64[04:44:46] <Kodos> Ah, no idea there tbh
L65[04:45:02] <Kodos> At that point, you'd be better off making a new upgrade/component
L66[04:45:17] <Forecaster> just add a function that does the same thing for slots outside of the database
L67[04:45:30] <Forecaster> one for the robot inventory, and one for a side
L68[04:45:36] <Kodos> You could check the OC code and see how computeHash works
L69[04:45:38] <KR> Isn't there already specifically a function for comparing item in a slot with item in database?
L70[04:45:41] <Kodos> And maybe write it as a general function
L71[04:45:48] <Forecaster> KR no
L72[04:45:58] <KR> Inventory controller provides compareToDatabase
L73[04:46:06] <Forecaster> in the example on the wiki they just compare the label...
L74[04:46:10] <KR> Which seems to do precisely that
L75[04:46:31] <KR> As for slots in a robot...
L76[04:47:02] <Forecaster> I need it for the robot inventory specifically
L77[04:47:50] <KR> If you use the "back" as the side when using an inventory controller in a robot, it'll work with the robot's inventor
L78[04:47:55] <KR> inventory*
L79[04:48:41] <Forecaster> oh
L80[04:48:41] <KR> Strangely the compareToDatabase function doesn't say that it takes a side, only a slot??
L81[04:48:51] <Kodos> That's because it's a database
L82[04:49:11] <Forecaster> compareToDatabase(slot:number, dBaddress:string, dBslot:number):boolean
L83[04:49:14] <KR> Not that kinda slot
L84[04:49:26] <KR> It does include the database slot as another parameter, yeah
L85[04:50:14] <Forecaster> I think that means it's only for the robot inventory...
L86[04:50:17] <KR> Well storeInternal says it specifically works with the robot inventory, and doesn't take a side parameter
L87[04:50:22] <KR> So I'd assume that, yeah
L88[04:50:35] <KR> Which is what you want anyway, right?
L89[04:50:52] <Forecaster> I'd still prefer if there was a consistent system in the database component itself
L90[04:51:01] <Forecaster> that didn't rely on an inventory controller
L91[04:51:11] <Forecaster> the way I see it the IC is for moving items around
L92[04:53:13] <KR> I see it as being for all cases where you need full details on items
L93[04:53:26] <KR> As you can only compare items, not actually directly read the data, without it
L94[04:53:36] <KR> But ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L95[04:54:01] <Forecaster> the point is that the database is useless
L96[04:54:08] <KR> Well sure
L97[04:54:10] <Forecaster> the inventory controller does everything you need
L98[04:54:15] <KR> That I won't argue with
L99[04:54:16] <Forecaster> without the database
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L102[05:18:40] <DankBoi> Sup
L103[05:18:51] <Forecaster> Sip
L104[05:19:06] <DankBoi> How you bois doin?
L105[05:19:26] <Forecaster> Sap
L106[05:19:39] <DankBoi> Yo I'm an IRC skrub so I've got a really dumb question
L107[05:20:05] <DankBoi> Can ppl get your IP from this? xD
L108[05:20:15] <Forecaster> depends
L109[05:20:31] <Forecaster> if you have a direct connection then yes
L110[05:20:34] <DankBoi> Because I see my IP at the top right now ._.
L111[05:22:16] <Forecaster> your connection string is "webchat@c-73-165-183-101.hsd1.pa.comcast.net"
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L114[05:22:26] <Forecaster> kbye
L115[05:22:33] <Forecaster> oh, you came back quick
L116[05:22:39] <DankBoi> That was an accident
L117[05:22:42] <DankBoi> So what did you say?
L118[05:22:45] <Forecaster> your connection string is "webchat@c-73-165-183-101.hsd1.pa.comcast.net"
L119[05:22:54] <Forecaster> that's what's shown when you connect
L120[05:23:02] <DankBoi> I'm pretty sure that's my IP
L121[05:23:17] <DankBoi> Yeah it is ._.
L122[05:23:32] <DankBoi> Is there a way to hide that? Lmao
L123[05:23:44] <Forecaster> connect through a bouncer
L124[05:23:55] <Izaya> does esper have cloaks?
L125[05:23:56] <DankBoi> And what would that be?
L126[05:23:59] <Forecaster> or if you're using OC to do this, get on a minecraft server
L127[05:24:06] <Forecaster> then it'll show the servers ip instead
L128[05:24:25] <DankBoi> Ooh that's cool
L129[05:24:31] <DankBoi> But I'd like to know what a bouncer is? LOl
L130[05:24:40] <Izaya> it's a program that you connect your IRC client to
L131[05:24:50] <Forecaster> it's like a proxy
L132[05:24:53] <Izaya> and it bounces messages between the real IRC server and your client(s)
L133[05:24:58] <Forecaster> it relays messages between you and the irc server
L134[05:25:08] <DankBoi> How would I get one of thoise?
L135[05:25:17] <DankBoi> Like what is one of them called?
L136[05:25:27] <Forecaster> either get ZNC and host it yourself, or search for "IRC bouncer" on google
L137[05:25:33] <Forecaster> there's a billion of providers
L138[05:25:39] <DankBoi> Altright
L139[05:25:41] <DankBoi> *Alright
L140[05:30:05] <Forecaster> their main purpose is to stay connected to the IRC server for you, keeping messages while you're disconnected
L141[05:30:15] <Forecaster> then it sends the buffered messages to you when you connect
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L143[05:32:17] <DankPapa> Hello
L144[05:32:21] <Forecaster> hi
L145[05:32:27] <DankPapa> I was DankBoi but they wouldn't let me use that name lol
L146[05:32:31] <DankPapa> I'm on minecraft rn
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L148[05:33:10] <Forecaster> because someone had already claimed that name
L149[05:33:18] <Forecaster> presumably
L150[05:33:20] <DankPapa> But I am that someone
L151[05:33:24] <DankPapa> lol
L152[05:33:36] <LizzyTheKitty> 2 people can't have the same nick
L153[05:33:39] <DankPapa> I was just talking to you about bouncers and stuff
L154[05:33:48] <LizzyTheKitty> and your oldone was still connected
L155[05:33:48] <DankPapa> I know that but I closed IRC before getting on this
L156[05:33:59] <DankPapa> suh dude\
L157[05:34:06] <DankPapa> wait wtf
L158[05:34:08] <DankPapa> I didn't type that
L159[05:34:09] <DankPapa> oh
L160[05:34:11] <DankPapa> my friend
L161[05:34:17] <DankPapa> Is also using this computer
L162[05:34:31] * Izaya sighs
L163[05:34:35] <Izaya> here we go again
L164[05:34:39] <Forecaster> you'll probably want to build him his own computer
L165[05:34:48] <DankPapa> Can't afford it lol
L166[05:34:55] <LizzyTheKitty> DankPapa, please make sure onyl one person is using your computer
L167[05:34:56] <Forecaster> then hit him
L168[05:35:05] <DankPapa> Why?
L169[05:35:06] <DankPapa> Lol
L170[05:35:07] <Izaya> THROW HIM OFF A CLIFF :D
L171[05:35:12] <Forecaster> so he stops :P
L172[05:35:25] <DankPapa> Why would it be an issue that we're both using this? I mean I can't really stop him
L173[05:35:33] <DankPapa> I can punch him but he'll come back :/
L174[05:35:43] <Forecaster> having two people talk using the same name is confusing
L175[05:35:55] * Izaya wonders if there's an OpenOS program for controlling authorised users
L176[05:35:57] <DankPapa> But I can't really control what he does tho lol
L177[05:36:06] <Izaya> Know the thing where the computer doesn't accept input from people not on a whitelist?
L178[05:36:17] <Forecaster> I don't think so
L179[05:36:22] <DankPapa> I don't know of that
L180[05:36:26] <LizzyTheKitty> well as long as you don't end up spamming the channel or get into a "they did it" "no they did it" argument, i don't see much of an issue with it
L181[05:36:46] <DankPapa> He's not doing anything rn
L182[05:36:57] <Forecaster> just know that if your username breaks any rules, it'll get banned
L183[05:37:04] <Forecaster> regardless of who does it
L184[05:37:10] <LizzyTheKitty> ^
L185[05:37:25] <DankPapa> Can't I always just come in again with another name tho? That seems a little too easy to bypass
L186[05:37:37] <Forecaster> we do ip bans
L187[05:37:42] <LizzyTheKitty> no, because we ban by host/ip
L188[05:37:59] <DankPapa> So basically if one person on this entire server breaks a rule here, nobody else can use the irc?
L189[05:38:11] <Forecaster> each user have their own ip
L190[05:38:23] <Forecaster> oh wait, you mean the server you're on
L191[05:38:26] <Forecaster> yeah
L192[05:38:30] <DankPapa> I thought you said that IRC only gives the IP of the server
L193[05:38:32] <DankPapa> Wow
L194[05:38:41] <DankPapa> That's a little crazy lol
L195[05:38:44] <Forecaster> that's unfortunately how it works
L196[05:38:48] <LizzyTheKitty> yes, until we get confirmation that the server owner that the offending player has been dealt with
L197[05:38:55] <LizzyTheKitty> because we had that shit before
L198[05:39:11] <DankPapa> I mean, the server is whitelisted but still, it's kinda easy to get whitelisted.
L199[05:39:33] <DankPapa> Well I think I'm gonna go
L200[05:39:35] <Forecaster> you can always just get on the discord server :P
L201[05:39:44] <Izaya> >discord
L202[05:39:47] <Izaya> >ever
L203[05:39:49] <Izaya> you do you
L204[05:39:59] <DankPapa> How do I leave xD
L205[05:40:02] <LizzyTheKitty> well, that does lower the attack vector somewhat. but i still expect server owners to at least be a little cautious
L206[05:40:03] <Izaya> /quit
L207[05:40:05] <Forecaster> type /quit
L208[05:40:05] <LizzyTheKitty> ./quit
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L210[05:40:18] <Izaya> I mean
L211[05:40:37] <Forecaster> I mean too
L212[05:40:46] <Izaya> we could pay attention to the name in the user string
L213[05:40:46] <Corded> * <LizzyTheKitty> Lizzys
L214[05:40:51] * Izaya nices
L215[05:41:01] <LizzyTheKitty> in what way?
L216[05:41:13] <Izaya> the ~whoever part
L217[05:41:19] <Izaya> tell them it's an IP ban before they go
L218[05:41:22] <Izaya> then ban the name
L219[05:41:27] <Izaya> if they fuck around again ban the IP
L220[05:41:32] <LizzyTheKitty> not really useful
L221[05:41:42] * Izaya shrugs
L222[05:41:44] <LizzyTheKitty> since the openirc client sets that to the same as the nick
L223[05:42:00] <LizzyTheKitty> y'might as well just do a nick ban
L224[05:42:05] <Forecaster> most users will probably try reconnecting anyway
L225[05:42:14] <Izaya> should make openirc use the computer UUID
L226[05:42:18] <Izaya> that might help
L227[05:42:23] <LizzyTheKitty> possibly
L228[05:42:24] <g> idents are length limited
L229[05:42:26] <Izaya> actually who gives a fuck
L230[05:42:27] <g> quite heavily
L231[05:42:32] <Izaya> do whatever
L232[05:42:45] <Forecaster> as you were
L233[05:42:46] <Forecaster> :P
L234[05:45:30] <Forecaster> can you search for a value in a table?
L235[05:46:29] <Forecaster> hm, I guess I'll have to make my own function for that
L236[05:58:25] <Izaya> Muahahaha
L237[05:59:01] <Izaya> I can automatically synchronise my Oblivion installation, its saves and mods
L238[05:59:13] <Forecaster> with your toaster?
L239[05:59:20] <Izaya> Totally.
L240[05:59:23] <Izaya> Don't see why not.
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L242[06:16:33] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/ddqCj21.png it's pretending to be a Windows XP program
L243[06:17:18] <Forecaster> aren't installers that play music the best
L244[06:18:09] <Izaya> it's nice when it's original music
L245[06:18:33] <Forecaster> it's always too loud and I'm always listening to music already
L246[06:20:11] <g> leave everyone's speakers on in the office
L247[06:20:17] <g> listen out for chiptune so you know someone's running a keygen
L248[06:20:18] <g> :>
L249[06:20:41] <Forecaster> I have headphones
L250[06:24:04] <Izaya> I need to get ethernet in my room >.>
L251[06:24:11] <Izaya> Downloading large mods over WiFi is painful
L252[06:24:35] <Vexatos> I got ethernet in my room three months ago or so
L253[06:24:37] <Vexatos> it's lovely
L254[06:24:44] <Forecaster> I can't imagine what that's like
L255[06:24:48] <Izaya> If I were smart
L256[06:24:53] <Izaya> I'd download the mods on my desktop
L257[06:24:54] <Forecaster> I've always had ethernet
L258[06:25:07] <Izaya> and then let syncthing copy them over WiFi
L259[06:25:28] <Izaya> desktop has ethernet because it's not in my computer room
L260[06:25:28] <Forecaster> when we got broadband in we wired the house
L261[06:25:47] <Forecaster> that sounds backwards :P
L262[06:25:54] <Izaya> wait
L263[06:25:57] <Izaya> I'm derping
L264[06:26:05] <Izaya> desktop has ethernet because it's in the computer room
L265[06:26:11] <Forecaster> that sounds better
L266[06:26:18] <Vexatos> I don't have a broadband connection
L267[06:26:19] <Izaya> my room is at the other end of the house and my laptop + dock is in there so
L268[06:26:31] <Vexatos> I live in a house inbetween two villages
L269[06:26:33] <Izaya> does ADSL2+ count as broadband?
L270[06:26:35] <Vexatos> 1km on either side
L271[06:26:41] <Izaya> :o 1km
L272[06:26:42] <Vexatos> there is no such thing as a broadband line >_>
L273[06:26:44] <Izaya> so far
L274[06:26:55] <Forecaster> I live in a forest
L275[06:27:03] <Vexatos> Well one of those is a village with like 200 people
L276[06:27:15] <Vexatos> The next real village to the east is about 3km away
L277[06:27:18] <Izaya> do you not have a phone line?
L278[06:27:24] <Vexatos> still not much, but good luck getting good interweb
L279[06:27:32] <Vexatos> I do have a phone and an Internet line
L280[06:27:44] <Vexatos> But I have an upload speed of 0.4 Mbit/s :P
L281[06:27:55] <Izaya> 0.4Mbps is okay enough
L282[06:27:57] * Forecaster shudders
L283[06:28:05] <Izaya> I live 300m from the exchange and get 0.3
L284[06:28:06] <Vexatos> okay enough for IRC
L285[06:28:08] <Izaya> 'Stralia, mate.
L286[06:28:35] <Vexatos> Germany: The country where everything is nice except for broadband coverage
L287[06:29:03] <Izaya> everyone I know there but you seems to have p. good internet
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L289[06:29:19] <Vexatos> Because they live in towns, and those are obviously covered
L290[06:29:19] <Forecaster> they probably live near a city :P
L291[06:29:30] <Vexatos> Germany's broadband coverage is like 5%
L292[06:29:35] <Vexatos> of households
L293[06:29:49] <Vexatos> Might be closer to 10 by now, but still extremely low
L294[06:29:52] <Forecaster> our area had their own fiber network built
L295[06:29:54] <Izaya> what do you define as broadband?
L296[06:30:09] <Vexatos> 50Mbps or more I think
L297[06:30:17] <Vexatos> downstream
L298[06:30:21] <Izaya> I believe it's defined as 25Mbps+ for down
L299[06:30:24] <Vexatos> or that
L300[06:30:27] <Vexatos> I don't know
L301[06:30:29] <Vexatos> I have 10
L302[06:30:30] <Vexatos> >_>
L303[06:30:31] <Izaya> At least in the US
L304[06:30:34] <Izaya> I get 24, tops.
L305[06:30:37] <Vexatos> Either 25 or 50
L306[06:30:56] <Vexatos> Some parts of my village even have glass fibre now :I
L307[06:31:11] <Vexatos> Gbps connections ,_,
L308[06:31:23] <Izaya> kek
L309[06:31:30] <Izaya> our new broadband network here
L310[06:31:39] <Izaya> guarantees speeds of 12Mbps at least once every 24 hours
L311[06:31:41] <Izaya> 'broadband'
L312[06:31:44] <Vexatos> the housing complex 200m west has broadband, the industrial block 50m south has glass fibre
L313[06:31:47] <Vexatos> I have 10/0.4
L314[06:32:25] <Vexatos> Izaya, the guarantee is pretty... broad :P
L315[06:32:36] <Izaya> ...
L316[06:32:49] <vifino> ohi Izaya.
L317[06:33:03] <vifino> how's hell today?
L318[06:33:20] <Izaya> bit cold
L319[06:34:35] <vifino> Ah, I can change that.
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L321[06:34:45] * vifino extinguishes some bad people
L322[06:34:51] <vifino> Should fuel the flames.
L323[06:49:07] <Corded> * <LizzyTheKitty> flops on vifino's lap and rolls onto her back
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L325[06:52:36] <The_Stargazer> Does anyone have a remote control script for drones or something similar that allows me to send a drone to a specific location then send it back to the start?
L326[06:53:01] <The_Stargazer> Like a sort of delivery drone.
L327[06:53:13] <Forecaster> I recall someone working on a program that let them send commands to drones remotely
L328[06:53:20] <Forecaster> I don't remember who though
L329[06:53:30] <The_Stargazer> Send commands like?
L330[06:53:36] <Forecaster> anything
L331[06:53:40] <Forecaster> arbitrary commands
L332[06:53:43] <The_Stargazer> like a normal PC?
L333[06:53:56] <Forecaster> sending code to the drone that it runs basically
L334[06:54:15] <The_Stargazer> Code like what? There's no code documentation or text tutorials for drone.
L335[06:54:52] <Forecaster> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:drone?s[]=drone
L336[06:56:22] <The_Stargazer> Can you use move(dx:number, dy:number, dz:number) to go to a specific XYZ location or do you have to offset it
L337[06:57:09] <Forecaster> it's an offset
L338[06:58:25] <The_Stargazer> Oh god no
L339[06:58:55] <Forecaster> yes it is :P
L340[06:59:19] <The_Stargazer> Is there an upgrade to go to a specific XYZ location?
L341[06:59:46] <Forecaster> no, but there's the navigation upgrade or waypoints
L342[07:00:22] <The_Stargazer> And those do..?
L343[07:00:38] <The_Stargazer> Do they work with drones?
L344[07:00:41] <Forecaster> ~oc waypoint
L345[07:00:41] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/block:waypoint
L346[07:00:48] <Forecaster> ~oc navigation
L347[07:00:48] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:navigation
L348[07:01:40] <The_Stargazer> How do I then go to a waypoint?
L349[07:03:07] <Forecaster> findWaypoints(range: number) in the navigation upgrade
L350[07:03:47] <The_Stargazer> And that makes the drone go to the XYZ of that waypoint?
L351[07:03:53] <Forecaster> no
L352[07:04:13] <The_Stargazer> How do I do that then?
L353[07:04:17] <Forecaster> it gives you a list of waypoints within the specified range, that list has the waypoint names and the relative distance in xyz
L354[07:04:29] <The_Stargazer> ooooh so I can then offset it?
L355[07:05:44] <The_Stargazer> orr?
L356[07:06:00] <Forecaster> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFfM7kB9vEU
L357[07:06:00] <MichiBot> OpenComputers: Waypoints Preview | length: 6m 38s | Likes: 54 Dislikes: 1 Views: 3,536 | by Mighty Pirates | Published On 26/4/2015
L358[07:06:01] <Forecaster> here
L359[07:06:08] <Forecaster> this should give you an idea
L360[07:06:20] <The_Stargazer> Can I haz text ver
L361[07:07:11] <Forecaster> no
L362[07:07:27] <The_Stargazer> once i have the XYZ relative distance can I use that to offset
L363[07:07:30] <The_Stargazer> also ynot
L364[07:08:18] <Forecaster> there is no text version
L365[07:08:48] <The_Stargazer> ok
L366[07:08:50] <The_Stargazer> once i have the XYZ relative distance can I use that to offset?
L367[07:09:00] <Forecaster> yes...
L368[07:09:13] <The_Stargazer> Thank you.
L369[07:10:25] <The_Stargazer> Bye.
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L371[07:13:51] <Forecaster> k
L372[07:27:06] <Izaya> >.>
L373[07:28:10] <Patchi> <.<
L374[07:33:16] <Izaya> >.<
L375[07:33:23] <Forecaster> <.>
L376[07:34:06] <Izaya> </.>
L377[07:35:30] <Patchi> ^.^
L378[07:36:04] <AshIndigo> \o/
L379[07:36:31] <Patchi> \o3o\
L380[07:40:38] <Izaya> got a youtube error
L381[07:42:06] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/9s7UUXh.png
L382[07:43:02] <Forecaster> trust in the monkeys
L383[07:43:10] <Izaya> I refuse
L384[07:43:50] <Izaya> lots of errors o.o
L385[07:43:55] <Forecaster> that might explain why the studio app said "Something went wrong" when I tried to view comments on it
L386[07:44:31] <Izaya> why do they never tell you the error?
L387[07:44:48] <Forecaster> to not scare mundanes?
L388[07:44:52] <Forecaster> I dunno
L389[07:45:10] <Izaya> have a button that says "show more information"
L390[07:45:18] <Izaya> hide it from the normies in there
L391[07:46:01] <Forecaster> on my sites I just print an error code with a short message
L392[07:46:24] <Forecaster> "Something went wrong when trying to do x"
L393[07:46:35] <Izaya> I think my 403 page says "fuck off" on at least one of my sites
L394[07:47:02] <Forecaster> well, the subscription page loads again
L395[08:13:27] <AmandaC> gamax92: For your consideration. I ran into an issue where my code which slowly consumes the result of a component list was causing the list to get prematurely emptied from under it, this patch fixes it. https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/nAc900ER/component-mapper-reset.diff
L396[08:46:44] <Izaya> this is worrying
L397[08:47:05] <Izaya> the shielding for the VGA cable hooked up to my TV zaps when you touch it
L398[08:47:08] <Izaya> like, the inner shielding
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L400[08:56:15] <Forecaster> lua doesn't support short-ifs does it?
L401[08:57:00] <Inari> It does via hackery
L402[08:57:03] <KR> As in ternary operators? Nope
L403[08:57:12] <Forecaster> that sounds hacky
L404[08:57:13] <Inari> %lua (1==0) and true or false
L405[08:57:13] <MichiBot> false
L406[08:57:13] <KR> But you can get something close by doing "x and y or z"
L407[09:01:26] <Temia> Izaya: check if there's an earth fault in your building's wiring?
L408[09:01:54] <Izaya> probably the TV tbh
L409[09:02:01] <Izaya> 15-year-old reverse projection thing
L410[09:02:58] <Temia> %lua function chirp() print("chirp") return true end return false and chirp()
L411[09:02:58] <MichiBot> false
L412[09:03:31] <Temia> Wait, I can't remember if MichiBot passes print calls. =.=a
L413[09:03:41] <Temia> %lua print("beep")
L414[09:03:41] <MichiBot> beep
L415[09:03:47] <Temia> Okay, yeah.
L416[09:09:11] <Wuerfel_21> I once repaired a C64. Whenever the TV was powered on, the metal shielding in the computer would give you a tiny zap...
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L418[09:53:51] <FLORANA> hey dose enyone know if theres a way to stream music from youtube using OC computronic? (just wondering...)
L419[09:54:30] <FLORANA> cuz when i record this track to a tape it... records verry oddly unlike the rest of videos that sound fine...
L420[10:01:10] <payonel> Forecaster: less does scrolling
L421[10:01:21] <Forecaster> less?
L422[10:01:27] <payonel> Forecaster: long_running_output | less
L423[10:01:33] <Forecaster> what is that?
L424[10:01:41] <payonel> openos /bin/less
L425[10:01:52] <Forecaster> wut
L426[10:01:57] <payonel> <Forecaster> payonel: scrolling plz? :>
L427[10:02:25] <Forecaster> that doesn't tell me what it is or what to do with it :P
L428[10:02:53] <LizzyTheKitty> SomeCommandThatMakesALongAssOutput | less
L429[10:03:02] <LizzyTheKitty> then use the arrow keys to navigate
L430[10:03:11] <Forecaster> oh
L431[10:03:28] <Forecaster> well, that doesn't work in the Lua interpreter
L432[10:03:36] <payonel> >_>
L433[10:03:40] <Forecaster> or can you send that to less?
L434[10:04:33] <g> couldn't you execute it with your data as the args?
L435[10:04:34] <payonel> then use popen and read lines
L436[10:04:51] <payonel> g: the stdout wouldn't be piped
L437[10:05:03] <Forecaster> popen? o-o
L438[10:05:37] <g> payonel does it not get control of the terminal?
L439[10:05:40] <g> or does the interpreter break that
L440[10:05:42] <payonel> cmd_output = io.popen("./long_ass_output")
L441[10:06:57] <payonel> g: it might work, i've just not tested that
L442[10:07:12] <payonel> loadfile("/bin/less.lua")("your_long_ass_output")
L443[10:07:21] <payonel> and at this point, i'm worried about so much ass output
L444[10:07:37] <Forecaster> I tried to pipe the lua prompt into less, it behaved very strangely
L445[10:07:40] <Forecaster> :P
L446[10:07:52] <payonel> oh you dont want to `lua | less`
L447[10:08:09] <Forecaster> I just wanted to see what would happen
L448[10:08:20] <Forecaster> (it was unusable)
L449[10:08:30] <payonel> you'll be giving input to /bin/lua some of the time, and then input to less some of the time
L450[10:08:47] <gamax92> payonel: Hi I would like to have a term.read that splits apart multiple users typing at the same time, also multiple cursors
L451[10:09:21] <g> is that even possible to implement with the current OC? lol
L452[10:09:26] <payonel> gamax92: :P key events don't give me users
L453[10:09:55] <gamax92> Yes they do?
L454[10:10:16] <gamax92> Very last thing you get from an event is the user who made the event
L455[10:10:33] <Forecaster> all events provide the user
L456[10:10:43] <payonel> ...
L457[10:10:46] <Forecaster> screen events
L458[10:10:52] <payonel> i've been living in emulator-land for too long
L459[10:11:04] <gamax92> It's okay Player426
L460[10:11:17] <Forecaster> or wait, keypresses aren't screen events...
L461[10:11:25] <payonel> huh look at that, the player
L462[10:11:26] <Forecaster> they'd be from the keyboard wouldn't they
L463[10:11:30] <payonel> i should make a player for ocvm
L464[10:11:46] <gamax92> You're already a father
L465[10:11:53] <payonel> :>
L466[10:12:32] <gamax92> Time to make a username generator for ocemu
L467[10:12:40] <payonel> Forecaster: anyways, back to popen. cmd_output = io.popen("cmd_that_generates_long_output")
L468[10:12:53] <payonel> then = cmd_output:read()
L469[10:13:36] <payonel> you could for i=1,20 do print(cmd_output:read()) end
L470[10:13:40] <payonel> to read the next 20 lines
L471[10:13:46] <payonel> but less is probably a better experience
L472[10:13:59] <payonel> loadfile("/bin/less.lua")("/path/to/long_output.lua")
L473[10:14:06] <payonel> will probably work
L474[10:17:33] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y9ppjvrn
L475[10:17:34] <Forecaster> hm
L476[10:18:04] <g> from the lua interpreter
L477[10:18:13] <g> you're in the shell
L478[10:18:16] <Forecaster> oh
L479[10:18:19] <Forecaster> yeah I know
L480[10:18:24] <g> just cat filename | less from the shell
L481[10:18:25] <g> lol
L482[10:19:21] <Forecaster> well, that in the lua prompt didn't run the file
L483[10:19:35] <Forecaster> it's just showing me the contents
L484[10:20:17] <payonel> Forecaster: you're impossible :P
L485[10:20:46] <payonel> you want it in shell, you want it in lua shell ... make up your mind! :P
L486[10:20:56] <payonel> yeah, less shows file contents on args
L487[10:21:15] <payonel> because it opens an arg to get a file handle
L488[10:21:19] <payonel> makes sense, that's what it should do
L489[10:21:47] <Forecaster> either is fine, but I'm confused about which is which :P
L490[10:23:34] <payonel> Forecaster: try (in lua shell) os.execute("long_output | less")
L491[10:23:37] <payonel> :)
L492[10:27:29] * payonel is afk
L493[10:28:47] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/y7kue3lx
L494[10:28:51] <Forecaster> oO
L495[10:30:44] <LizzyTheKitty> ¬_¬
L496[10:30:53] <LizzyTheKitty> you can't run lua code in the shell
L497[10:31:04] <LizzyTheKitty> which is what you're trying to do with os.execute
L498[10:31:23] <Forecaster> no, I ran it in the lua prompt
L499[10:31:41] <LizzyTheKitty> yes but os.execute exicutes it as the shell
L500[10:32:18] <LizzyTheKitty> what you're tyuing to do is the same as trying to run https://paste.pc-logix.com/ugelecivez on the shell
L501[10:33:01] <LizzyTheKitty> what are you even trying to acomplish though?
L502[10:33:36] <Forecaster> when working on a robot I want to be able to see stacktraces that most of the time are too long for the tiny screen
L503[10:34:20] <LizzyTheKitty> ah, AFAIK there isn't any scrolling in the Lua console so that wont be possible
L504[10:34:41] <Forecaster> there isn't no
L505[10:34:49] <Forecaster> if there was I wouldn't have brought it up...
L506[10:37:49] * Izaya hmms
L507[10:38:12] <Izaya> "why would you want to run lua from the shell?" "why can't I run shell programs from the Lua prompt"
L508[10:38:40] <Izaya> off to bed o/
L509[10:38:44] <Forecaster> I've not asked for either of those :P
L510[10:39:00] <Forecaster> all I want is to be able to see the top of the stacktraces somehow
L511[10:39:21] * Izaya boredly considers making QR codes on OC
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L516[11:33:46] <Michiyo> damn thanks windows..
L517[11:33:59] <Michiyo> I have 2 minutes til this fucking box force reboots
L518[11:33:59] <Michiyo> ._.
L519[11:34:27] <Michiyo> It's A GODS DAMNED SERVER
L520[11:34:29] <Michiyo> ... ._.
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L522[11:39:19] <vifino> same thing on my gaming pc.
L523[11:39:28] <vifino> windows is a service, great.
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L526[11:50:33] <LizzyTheKitty> Not sure how, but I managed to make my ws2016 box in a manual install mode
L527[11:53:37] <payonel> Forecaster: 2>&1 ./your_script.lua | less
L528[11:53:46] <payonel> vifino: o/
L529[11:54:25] <payonel> Forecaster: or, ./your_script.lua 2>error.log
L530[11:54:39] <payonel> -- the 2>... can go anywhere
L531[11:57:36] <vifino> o/ payonel
L532[11:59:02] <Corded> * <LizzyTheKitty> curls up on vifino's lap
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L534[12:01:22] <payonel> vifino: so remember when you got me all pissy about btrfs?
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L536[12:04:58] * vifino pets Lizzy
L537[12:05:04] <vifino> payonel: No. Should I?
L538[12:05:11] <Corded> * <LizzyTheKitty> purrs loudly
L539[12:05:16] <payonel> vifino: no :)
L540[12:05:35] <payonel> anyways, i had to buy a backup drive over the weekend to recovery my btrfs storage
L541[12:05:40] <payonel> -y
L542[12:05:47] <vifino> Nice.
L543[12:05:53] <vifino> Should've used ZFS.
L544[12:05:55] <payonel> and...i'll be rebuilding the raid some time this week
L545[12:06:21] <vifino> gl.
L546[12:08:42] <CompanionCube> what happened to your btrfs
L547[12:10:11] * CompanionCube wondered how it screwed up this time
L548[12:10:46] <payonel> btrfs gets mad at me when i fill up a pool to basically 100%
L549[12:10:54] <CompanionCube> ah
L550[12:10:56] <payonel> which i do because ... i take daily snapshots (at 4am)
L551[12:11:08] <payonel> and i have ~300k files and ~4TB of content
L552[12:11:09] <CompanionCube> ZFS has a similar problem
L553[12:11:26] <payonel> with ~4 very active owncloud users, and a plex server i am uploading new movies to regularly
L554[12:11:29] <CompanionCube> (except instead of screaming at you, you take a performance hit)
L555[12:11:46] <payonel> yeah, btrfs is fine until i fill it
L556[12:11:53] <CompanionCube> the threshold for it is around 80-100% depending on usage
L557[12:12:02] <payonel> then i have to consolidate the snapshots, and this time it didn't play nice after i deleted a bunch of old snaps
L558[12:12:18] <payonel> my apache threads got stuck in D state (kernel calls)
L559[12:12:32] <payonel> i had to force kill the box, and mounting the drive would lock in D state again
L560[12:12:36] <CompanionCube> O.o
L561[12:12:48] <CompanionCube> payonel: at least btrfs has very good recovery tools
L562[12:12:56] <AmandaC> %choose br or lr
L563[12:12:57] <CompanionCube> (i can speak from first-hand experience)
L564[12:12:57] <payonel> yeah, i recovered everything fine
L565[12:12:57] <MichiBot> AmandaC: br
L566[12:13:03] <AmandaC> brb
L567[12:13:21] <payonel> i have all the content, going to lose all history, and i have to come up with a safer backup plan
L568[12:13:28] <payonel> this time i'm going to have at least two pools
L569[12:13:40] <payonel> one will be the main storage pool, and snaps will be sent to the second
L570[12:13:54] <CompanionCube> that's a good way of doing it
L571[12:14:17] <CompanionCube> (even though iirc pool isn't the btrfs term)
L572[12:14:19] <payonel> CompanionCube: and my wife is being super awesome about it, she said, "maybe you need a 2nd server"
L573[12:14:23] <payonel> ^.^ haha
L574[12:14:36] <payonel> CompanionCube: huh..well, pool is a good name for it :P
L575[12:14:56] <CompanionCube> payonel: I suppose that's why ZFS calls them zpools
L576[12:15:43] * CompanionCube wonders if btrfs has a name for the volume that's different from the filesystem
L577[12:20:40] <payonel> CompanionCube: imo, "pool" can be a general term. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Btrfs mentions pool (not official, but for reference)
L578[12:22:44] <payonel> yeah, zfs looks better, obviously
L579[12:22:51] <payonel> but i'm hopeful btrfs continue to improve
L580[12:26:38] <payonel> Vexatos: does oppm use https or http?
L581[12:26:59] <Vexatos> yes
L582[12:27:12] <Vexatos> (https)
L583[12:27:38] <payonel> ocvm http is working now, wanted to test oppm
L584[12:27:40] <payonel> i guess..not yet
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L589[13:42:41] <AmandaC> "subvolumes" is what btrfs seems to call them
L590[13:42:56] <CompanionCube> AmandaC: that's part of the filesystem
L591[13:43:18] <CompanionCube> 'pool' refers to the whole shebang, disks and all
L592[13:43:27] <AmandaC> ah
L593[13:46:25] <vifino> Speaking of servers, do you have actual servers at home, payonel?
L594[13:46:53] <vifino> (it's not real unless it doubles your electricity bill)
L595[13:47:17] <Forecaster> does it count even if I'm not paying for the electricity?
L596[13:47:21] <CompanionCube> yes
L597[13:47:26] <Forecaster> okay good
L598[13:47:27] <Forecaster> :P
L599[13:47:37] <vifino> it does.
L600[13:47:46] <CompanionCube> Forecaster: what do you have
L601[13:48:01] <Forecaster> an ubuntu server
L602[13:48:10] <Forecaster> it runs all my websites and stuff
L603[13:48:17] <vifino> very specific, such hardware, wow.
L604[13:48:27] <Forecaster> used to run minecraft on it too, but I don't anymore :P
L605[13:48:38] <Forecaster> I dunno what the hardware is
L606[13:48:49] <Forecaster> I'd have to put effort into checking
L607[13:49:45] <Forecaster> it's just some desktop hardware
L608[13:56:11] <Forecaster> why does my robot start off at 97% energy?!
L609[13:56:16] <Forecaster> what a rippoff!
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L611[14:02:11] <CompanionCube> vifino has much server, many hardware, such power
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L615[14:22:58] <vifino> That is factually accurate.
L616[14:24:43] <AmandaC> Is there an option to turn off the "running noise" that computers make?
L617[14:25:02] <AmandaC> I still want the beeps, just not the fan running noise. :P
L618[14:29:09] <vifino> But... the fans are important!
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L620[15:02:29] <Forecaster> yeah, anyone in showbiz knows that!
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L625[15:19:32] * AmandaC would rather have silence, she's got enough ambiant noise already in her life.
L626[15:19:59] <AmandaC> I don't need a fake computer adding to my real computer's noise so directly.
L627[15:21:43] <AmandaC> seems the answer I was looking for is: soundVolume=0
L628[16:02:47] <Forecaster> there's a fan noise?
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L631[16:21:05] <payonel> vifino: my server does not double my electricity bill, no :P
L632[16:21:49] <payonel> but i also spend ~$80 on air conditioning alone
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L634[16:24:49] <payonel> but my server consists of: 850W ups, i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4core), 32G ram, with 5 hdds providing ~16 TB of storage
L635[16:58:30] <AmandaC> payonel: but what about the cup holders? How many does it have of those?
L636[17:00:30] <gamax92> USB Cup Holder
L637[17:02:13] <payonel> :) no cup holders, not even dvd holders
L638[17:11:37] <CompanionCube> ubuntu or some OS?
L639[17:12:20] <payonel> CompanionCube: gentoo
L640[17:12:31] <CompanionCube> interesting choice for a server
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L642[17:12:43] <CompanionCube> systemd or no?
L643[17:22:04] <payonel> no, i'm all for openrc
L644[17:22:21] <payonel> the only thing i hate about openrc is that now `rc` complains that you should use `openrc` now :|
L645[17:22:33] <payonel> they did a name change recently :)
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L657[17:50:15] <Temia> That seems weird, unless they intend to make some breaking changes.
L658[17:51:14] <payonel> Temia: `openrc` has been available for a long time and in fact the `rc` conflicted with other things i'm told. if you now run rc you get deprecation warnings printed to stdout
L659[18:00:04] <vifino> payonel: +100 for openrc
L660[18:00:05] <vifino> :)
L661[18:00:12] <vifino> Gentoo/Alpine user!!
L662[18:03:42] <vifino> CompanionCube: i've been deploying gentoo on servers for a while
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L665[19:32:08] <Izaya> payonel: nice server
L666[19:32:16] <Izaya> almost the same as mine :P
L667[19:32:24] <Izaya> you have more RAM but I have a Xeon E3
L668[19:38:53] <Izaya> Druaga1 video
L669[19:39:52] <CompanionCube> Izaya: needs more ssd
L670[19:40:11] <Izaya> and weed
L671[19:44:43] <AmandaC> 360 blaze it.
L672[19:45:04] * AmandaC is totally hip with the kids.
L673[19:45:16] <Izaya> AmandaC: your xbox is on fire
L674[19:45:49] <AmandaC> Wait, I have an xbox?
L675[19:45:58] <Izaya> a 360, specifically :P
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L677[19:59:29] <AmandaC> %choose galactic takeover or other or just watch
L678[19:59:30] <MichiBot> AmandaC: other
L679[20:01:27] <Izaya> why are all these keyboards backlit?
L680[20:01:29] <Izaya> what is the point?
L681[20:02:33] <Izaya> I have this amazing thing called a ceiling light
L682[20:02:52] <Izaya> making backlights pointless
L683[20:04:37] <Izaya> backlights in keyboards, anyway >.>
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L687[21:12:11] <gamax92> Izaya: because night time without the lights on
L688[21:12:22] <gamax92> and dark themes
L689[21:12:58] <Izaya> so turn the light on
L690[21:13:25] <gamax92> yes, turn on the lights on my keyboard
L691[21:14:00] <Izaya> no
L692[21:14:34] <Izaya> turn on the ThinkLight tm
L693[21:28:57] <gamax92> analyzer takes 20 minutes and then I have to run a plugin for it to make it take another 10 :|
L694[21:29:00] <gamax92> twice.
L695[21:29:15] <Izaya> fun
L696[21:29:26] <Izaya> good excuse for you to do anything else :P
L697[21:30:48] <AmandaC> %choose play or sleep
L698[21:30:49] <MichiBot> AmandaC: sleep
L699[21:30:51] <gamax92> Izaya: well it's kinda thundering hard
L700[21:31:05] <gamax92> so outdoor plans are canceled
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L713[23:38:55] <Keridos> @Vexatos having a weird issue here, apparently in deobfuscated environment OC support works fine, but in obfuscated ones the driver is added successfully but the block never gets detected correctly.
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