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L1[00:00:07] <Saphire> ...what
L2[00:00:36] <gamax92> I would have to store a giant unicode table of what shifted versions of letters look like
L3[00:00:44] <gamax92> or I could not do that and just parse textinput
L4[00:01:47] <Saphire> Uh
L5[00:01:51] <Saphire> Oh
L6[00:01:54] <Saphire> Ooooh
L7[00:02:06] <payonel> which is precisely what i have to do in raw tty mode: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/blob/master/drivers/kb_drv.cpp#L221
L8[00:03:09] <Saphire> Hmm
L9[00:03:22] <Saphire> I am still pondering idea of making a game X.x
L10[00:03:34] <Saphire> I can't stop thinking about it :c
L11[00:05:14] <Saphire> Well, less a game and more just a tiny to experiment on
L12[00:05:27] <Saphire> *thing
L13[00:09:38] <Syrren> Saphire: what kind of game?
L14[00:09:55] <Saphire> Sandbox, space
L15[00:10:29] <Syrren> Hm. Well, KSP apparently has good modding support...
L16[00:10:58] <Syrren> or if you want more accurate modelling then Orbiter is the only way to go, but you can't make spacecraft in-game there.
L17[00:11:48] <Saphire> No no no no no
L18[00:11:51] <Saphire> No
L19[00:11:53] <Saphire> No
L20[00:12:14] <Syrren> wrong kind of experiments, I guess?
L21[00:12:35] <gamax92> "making a game"
L22[00:12:40] <gamax92> "here's a game"
L23[00:12:51] <Syrren> 14:35:14 <Saphire> Well, less a game and more just a tiny to experiment on
L24[00:12:58] <Saphire> ...
L25[00:12:59] <Syrren> that's why I thought about modding.
L26[00:13:03] <Saphire> No
L27[00:13:16] <Saphire> I want to experiment exactly from another side
L28[00:13:43] <Saphire> From the point of /making a moddable game/ rather than making mods
L29[00:13:47] <Syrren> aah
L30[00:13:48] <Syrren> got it.
L31[00:14:26] <Saphire> And experiment with things that are pretty much engine level
L32[00:15:02] <Saphire> Things like ECS
L33[00:15:34] <Syrren> ECS?
L34[00:15:40] <Saphire> Or networking, or lighting or dynamic objects and so on
L35[00:15:47] <Saphire> Entity-Component system
L36[00:15:51] <Syrren> ahh
L37[00:15:53] <Saphire> A very shiny thing
L38[00:16:00] <Syrren> yeah, I've heard of that concept
L39[00:16:05] <gamax92> Entertainment Computer System
L40[00:16:24] <Saphire> Haha, definitely going to name something like that
L41[00:17:35] <gamax92> ahh well, Mattel Electronics already beat you to that
L42[00:18:16] <Saphire> Awww
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L57[01:42:55] <payonel> LeshaInc: poke
L58[01:54:01] <payonel> %tell LeshaInc true cyan is 0x00FFFF - but in 4 bit color in OC we don't have 0x00FFFF by default [crazy, i know]
L59[01:54:01] <MichiBot> payonel: LeshaInc will be notified of this message when next seen.
L60[01:54:20] <payonel> %tell LeshaInc in 4bit depth, one could call gpu.setPaletteColor(3, 0x00ffff)
L61[01:54:20] <MichiBot> payonel: LeshaInc will be notified of this message when next seen.
L62[01:54:29] <gamax92> echo *
L63[01:54:30] <gamax92> best ls
L64[01:54:38] <payonel> ha!
L65[01:54:40] <payonel> true, gamax
L66[01:54:54] <payonel> that is super fast
L67[01:55:18] <gamax92> payonel: ls requests information about files that it doesn't use unless you give it certain options
L68[01:55:39] <payonel> gamax92: yeah, you're right. i wrote it back before i realized how slow fs access was
L69[01:55:44] <payonel> i would like to redo it
L70[01:56:23] <payonel> i could delay getting the file metadata unless needed, but the code is already huge enough. i would sort of prefer to try a rewrite, to see if i can simplify it
L71[01:57:29] <payonel> %tell LeshaInc sooo...i feel the best solution for cyan ansi color is to use 0x00b6ff -- that's the closest to cyan that exists in 4bit color by default. and if someone sets cyan on palette 3 then it is even better. otherwise, "cyan" is green in 4bit
L72[01:57:29] <MichiBot> payonel: LeshaInc will be notified of this message when next seen.
L73[01:58:44] <Izaya> speaking of colour
L74[01:58:57] <Izaya> how bad would it be to have text colours encoded as a char
L75[01:59:01] <Izaya> and just pass that to the GPU?
L76[01:59:19] <payonel> Izaya: that's basically ansi color
L77[01:59:36] <Izaya> does that give me 256 colours?
L78[01:59:57] <payonel> right now i'm just supporting 8
L79[02:00:10] <payonel> but i have plans to extend that to the other ansi color formats
L80[02:00:13] <Skye> There's technically true color terminal stuff.
L81[02:00:29] <payonel> 8 foreground, 8 background. and LeshaInc wants "light" colors which would double that
L82[02:01:20] <payonel> Skye: yeah, and i could support that too
L83[02:01:33] <Skye> there's 8 bits per color channel so that should be enough.
L84[02:02:21] <payonel> oc "deflates" 24bit color values to the 256 box on an 8bit depth
L85[02:02:37] <payonel> so there isn't really a strong reason, besides convenience of working with a common 24bit color format
L86[02:03:22] <payonel> and, as i was explaining (in %tell) to LeshaInc, not all colors deflate well
L87[02:03:26] <payonel> such as cyan
L88[02:03:32] <payonel> in 4bit depth
L89[02:03:52] <Skye> Oh. Well, true color would allow for almost "raw" for good or bad.
L90[02:04:10] <payonel> yes, but i'm not explaining well
L91[02:04:34] <payonel> it would give the user the ability to refer to color "raw", but that doesn't change the limitations in oc when deflating the colors
L92[02:05:15] <Skye> Even T3? Aw
L93[02:05:35] <payonel> example, even if your ansi code asked for 0x00ffff (cyan), you would get something more like green (if in 4bit depth)
L94[02:05:44] <payonel> Skye: yes, that's what i'm saying. T3 is 8bit
L95[02:05:51] <payonel> http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:gpu
L96[02:06:02] <payonel> scroll to the bottom, that's our color system
L97[02:07:36] <Izaya> payonel: so I did a thing
L98[02:07:40] <Skye> Aw.
L99[02:07:47] <payonel> Izaya: yeah!?
L100[02:07:56] <Izaya> the built-in multice terminal can, on my laptop, switch interactive sessions
L101[02:08:03] <Skye> We need a tier 4 GPU with more bits.
L102[02:08:24] <payonel> Skye: :)
L103[02:08:36] <Izaya> like pressing ctrl-alt-functionnumber on a loonix box
L104[02:08:42] <payonel> Izaya: ha
L105[02:08:45] <Skye> Tier 4, 16 bits? :P
L106[02:08:47] <payonel> schmancy
L107[02:09:13] <payonel> Skye: honestly i'd skip 16 and go to 24, or maybe even 32 with alpha
L108[02:09:24] <payonel> but at least 24
L109[02:09:24] <Izaya> ie I can easily do multitasking stuff with one machine
L110[02:10:43] <payonel> Izaya: that's really cool
L111[02:11:09] <Izaya> if you have something running in the background for a long time it'll OOM your machine though
L112[02:11:14] <Izaya> because it just buffers all the changes >.>
L113[02:11:38] <Izaya> might need to trim it to x number of bytes
L114[02:12:00] <Izaya> I'm thinking 16k
L115[02:12:05] <Izaya> that's two total redraws of the screen
L116[02:12:12] <payonel> i can't get away with that so easily in openos because i sandbox scripts that may create coroutines or threads, that may do process piping or redirection, that may yield for events or call pullSignal
L117[02:12:28] <Skye> Izaya, you could emulate terminal and only keep what is needed for a redraw
L118[02:12:40] <Izaya> Skye: so much code size though
L119[02:12:56] <payonel> so i DO have a solution for that, but that's the thread library itself. which is ~40k to load
L120[02:13:26] <Skye> So I'm playing cities skylines on my X220
L121[02:13:31] <payonel> perhaps i could add terminal switch that builds all of that when you try to switch ttys
L122[02:13:51] <Skye> And my GPU it putting random garbage on the screen
L123[02:13:52] <Izaya> oh
L124[02:14:01] <Izaya> I also made a sane way to spawn new sessions
L125[02:14:43] <Izaya> push an event "sessionrq" with a session ID and anything that needs to start (a shell, etc) will start
L126[02:15:09] <Izaya> the upside of this is now when a session is killed the same things that handle the creation of sessions can destroy them
L127[02:18:35] <Izaya> also how's ocvm coming along?
L128[02:19:00] <payonel> Izaya: i did a big refactor because it was ugly and because gamax92 wanted to add an sdl frame to it
L129[02:19:09] <payonel> i'm done with that. i working on openos right now again
L130[02:19:22] <Izaya> fun times
L131[02:19:29] <Izaya> lemme guess, sdl so it could beep?
L132[02:19:32] <payonel> i need to add a modem and an internet card option to ocvm, but that's for another day
L133[02:19:34] <gamax92> no
L134[02:19:42] <gamax92> sdl so it can accurate and friendly
L135[02:19:50] <gamax92> and beep
L136[02:19:57] <Izaya> accurate and friendly?
L137[02:20:14] <gamax92> correct font, correct character widths, and a window
L138[02:20:48] <Izaya> ah
L139[02:22:19] <gamax92> correct colors too
L140[02:22:46] <gamax92> resolution changing could also be supported now
L141[02:23:18] <gamax92> and I get that I can't actually do a lot of that with ocvm cause it's main design point is to run in a terminal but
L142[02:32:27] <Saphire> http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/191/685/derpeyes.jpg?1319665336 heh
L143[02:33:34] <Izaya> so uh
L144[02:33:47] <Izaya> payonel: I tried building ocvm and that VM seems to have hung
L145[02:34:05] <payonel> Izaya: it compiled successfully and you have a ocvm binary?
L146[02:34:13] <Izaya> no uh
L147[02:34:17] <Izaya> VM isn't responding to pings
L148[02:34:29] <payonel> you're building ocvm in a vm?
L149[02:35:07] <Izaya> yes
L150[02:35:15] <Izaya> debian 8.something
L151[02:35:18] <Izaya> on xen
L152[02:37:29] <gamax92> tiem to passoutn ow goodniht.
L153[02:37:35] <Izaya> o/
L154[02:38:20] <gamax92> Izaya: also being in C++ means ocvm can more accurately implement functions that have different behaviour with no value and nil
L155[02:39:25] <gamax92> and it'll probably be faster than ocemu
L156[02:47:22] <gamax92> crap I still have updates to build
L157[03:08:40] <Izaya> that VM un-hung
L158[03:08:44] <Izaya> firefox has died apparently
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L161[04:09:07] <LeshaInc> payonel: i'm here
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L163[04:51:39] <Skye> %p
L164[04:51:41] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 0.8s
L165[04:51:42] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 0.69s
L166[04:54:41] <Skye> %p
L167[04:54:42] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Skye 0.41s
L168[04:55:45] <Forecaster> https://cairn4.itch.io/mewnbase
L169[05:00:02] <Ember_Primrose> \o,.,o/
L170[05:00:24] <Ember_Primrose> %p
L171[05:00:53] <Forecaster> ping doesn't work from discord :P
L172[05:02:04] <ping> pong
L173[05:02:41] <Forecaster> 2 minutes, that's terrible
L174[05:04:51] <AshIndigo> %p
L175[05:04:54] <MichiBot> Ping reply from AshIndigo 1.15s
L176[05:09:28] <LeshaInc> %tell payonel http://i.imgur.com/wVT9VG6.png i tried to make up the palette, and yes, there's problems with cyan
L177[05:09:28] <MichiBot> LeshaInc: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L178[05:10:53] <LeshaInc> %tell payonel i think we can use gpu.setPaletteColor in 4 bits if somebody changes colors using P%x%x%x%x%x%x%x
L179[05:10:53] <MichiBot> LeshaInc: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L181[06:07:08] <Vindex> gamax92: though I have issues compiling everything needed for Lua, so not using c++ is ++ in my book
L182[06:13:23] * Saphire screams on math
L183[06:13:28] <Saphire> *in
L184[06:13:32] <Saphire> But on us correct to
L185[06:13:35] <Saphire> *too
L186[06:13:40] <Saphire> *of
L187[06:13:43] <Saphire> ...
L188[06:14:09] <Saphire> But "on" is correct too.
L189[06:14:11] <Saphire> Fixed!
L190[06:44:53] <Forecaster> I want the ram sticks to tell me how much memory they have in the tooltip :I
L191[06:55:43] <LeshaInc> Forecaster: as i know memory amount is architecture-defined
L192[06:56:05] <Forecaster> the values are defined in the config
L193[06:57:16] <LeshaInc> Forecaster: yeah but you can create an architecture which will handle memory sizes differently
L194[06:57:35] <LeshaInc> see https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/machine/luac/NativeLuaArchitecture.scala#L147
L195[07:00:26] <Forecaster> I'll take your word for it
L196[07:00:40] <Forecaster> it could still display the base values
L197[07:57:14] * AmandaC is confused, who did Mimiru ban?
L198[07:57:33] <Mimiru> What?
L199[07:58:02] <AmandaC> Someone got banned from something last night, and I'm in the mood for some nice morning drama
L200[07:58:17] <Mimiru> erm
L201[07:58:25] <Forecaster> it was a mod spamming pings
L202[07:58:30] <Forecaster> s/mod/bot
L203[07:58:30] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> it was a bot spamming pings
L204[07:58:32] <AmandaC> ah
L205[07:58:33] <Mimiru> Oh
L206[07:58:33] <Mimiru> that
L207[07:58:53] * AmandaC didn't see any pings, guesses they didn't get to her yet.
L208[07:59:10] <Forecaster> it tried sending the entire user list in one message multiple times
L209[07:59:15] <Forecaster> but it was cut off of course
L210[07:59:26] <Mimiru> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/parser.php?log=2017-07-05.log#L322
L211[07:59:43] <Mimiru> funny enough they were using the OC IRC client.. lol
L212[08:00:00] <Forecaster> I didn't get pinged either :P
L213[08:00:16] <AmandaC> oh, that
L214[08:00:35] <AmandaC> I was confused because something about a "god given right to use NCSoft" maybe I misread the context
L215[08:00:40] <Mimiru> OH
L216[08:00:41] <Mimiru> THAT
L217[08:00:53] * Mimiru shakes her head
L218[08:01:01] <Mimiru> THAT guy...
L219[08:01:04] * Mimiru shudders
L220[08:01:05] <Forecaster> huh
L221[08:03:03] <Cruor> Forecaster: pff, casual
L222[08:03:06] <Cruor> getting pinged if nice
L223[08:03:10] * AmandaC is even more confused now, decides to lay down in Inari's lap for a nap instead
L224[08:03:18] <Forecaster> Cruor: wut?
L225[08:03:47] <Mimiru> AmandaC, as I explained to Izaya, he's just a guy that Played the MMO City of Heroes, it was shut down in 2012, and he went off the deepend.. well more so than before I guess
L226[08:04:02] <Forecaster> oh him
L227[08:04:10] <AmandaC> I didn't see anybody saying stuff liek that thuogh?
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L229[08:04:23] <AmandaC> or did it happen out-of-band?
L230[08:04:27] <Forecaster> maybe you've ignored them :P
L231[08:04:27] <Mimiru> It wasn't OC related, it was a PM on Facebook
L232[08:04:31] <AmandaC> ah
L233[08:04:50] <Mimiru> Because I'm involved in a project to recreate the zones of City of Heroes
L234[08:05:10] <Mimiru> we banned him cause he'd go on rants, much like I linked at everyone
L235[08:06:11] <Forecaster> aw what
L236[08:06:23] <Mimiru> I wish I'd saved the posts...
L237[08:06:26] <Forecaster> the disassembler doesn't put stuff in the assembler anymore
L238[08:06:37] <Mimiru> wat
L239[08:06:42] <Mimiru> %issue
L240[08:06:42] <MichiBot> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L241[08:06:43] <Mimiru> now
L242[08:06:48] <Mimiru> ._.
L243[08:07:31] <AmandaC> Forecaster: It doesn't for me, but only if I have another device that could accept the items above it
L244[08:07:36] <Forecaster> it just threw it out on top just now
L245[08:07:44] <AmandaC> ah, werd
L246[08:08:00] <Forecaster> the only thing adjacent is the assembler
L247[08:08:19] <AmandaC> I have an ME interface I place and remove depending on if I'm disassembling or rebuilding something
L248[08:08:36] <Mimiru> %delcommand issue
L249[08:08:37] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Command deleted
L250[08:08:52] <Mimiru> %addcommand ocissue https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L251[08:08:52] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Command Added
L252[08:09:12] <Mimiru> hmm
L253[08:09:16] <Mimiru> %delcommand ocissue
L254[08:09:16] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Command deleted
L255[08:09:33] <Mimiru> %addcommand ocissue {0} Please open a new issue here: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L256[08:09:33] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Command Added
L257[08:09:38] <Mimiru> %ocissue Forecaster
L258[08:09:38] <MichiBot> Forecaster Please open a new issue here: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L259[08:09:41] <Mimiru> nope.. lol
L260[08:09:54] <Mimiru> did that get changed at some point?
L261[08:10:03] <Forecaster> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L262[08:11:35] <Forecaster> oh, now it worked?
L263[08:11:44] <Forecaster> huh
L264[08:11:53] <Forecaster> weird
L265[08:12:37] * Mimiru shrugs
L266[08:17:54] <Mimiru> %ocissue
L267[08:17:55] <MichiBot> {0} Please open a new issue here: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L268[08:18:03] <Mimiru> lol.. sorta annoying but it works
L269[08:18:21] <Forecaster> what if you extra space it
L270[08:18:24] <Forecaster> %ocissue
L271[08:18:24] <MichiBot> {0} Please open a new issue here: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L272[08:18:27] <Forecaster> nope
L273[08:18:33] <Mimiru> yeah input is trimmed
L274[08:18:36] <Forecaster> ah
L275[08:18:43] <Forecaster> %ocissue Seriously
L276[08:18:44] <g> %ocissue >
L277[08:18:44] <MichiBot> Seriously Please open a new issue here: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L278[08:18:45] <MichiBot> > Please open a new issue here: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/new
L279[08:19:12] <g> a default function might be nice for that
L280[08:19:20] <g> {0=default here}
L281[08:19:35] <g> you'd have to actually parse it though :P
L282[08:20:52] <Mimiru> Meh
L283[08:21:05] <g> or you could go overkill and use a templating engine
L284[08:21:13] <g> ${first if first else ">"}
L285[08:21:21] <Forecaster> you're a <insert insult template here>
L286[08:21:31] <g> ${args[0] if args else ">"}
L287[08:21:34] <g> you get the idea
L288[08:21:55] <Forecaster> I'd just trim all {x} matches then do a trim :P
L289[08:22:00] <g> (that syntax is python's mako lib)
L290[08:22:19] <AmandaC> templinging functions in an IRC bot lead to dragons. Say hi to Saphire!
L291[08:22:43] <g> :p
L292[08:22:52] <g> it's totally not safe at all but hey, it'd work
L293[08:23:28] <AmandaC> On an old bot we had entire little games, and inventories, coded using template stuff + variable persistence
L294[08:25:25] <g> heh, yeah, they can be powerful alright
L295[08:26:03] <Saphire> AmandaC: I got Shocky, not mine though, that has factoids
L296[08:26:44] <AmandaC> I should fix my bucket instance elsenet
L297[08:34:59] <Forecaster> can a robot not move the item in it's tool slot?
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L299[08:47:30] <Forecaster> guess I need to use an inventory controller :I
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L302[09:04:48] <Forecaster> it did it again!
L303[09:04:56] <Forecaster> for some reason I get the case in my off hand...
L304[09:05:37] <Forecaster> hm, I think it happens when I stand too close to the disassembler
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L307[09:09:53] <Forecaster> for some reason it puts the case in my off-hand, then because the assembler doesn't have a case it spits out the rest of the parts on top of itself
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L311[09:30:15] <Michiyo> So, got square setup \o/
L312[09:30:27] <Izaya> Square setup?
L313[09:30:29] <Forecaster> ?
L314[09:30:32] <Forecaster> what's square?
L315[09:30:42] <Michiyo> I can take credit cards again, just wish I could print receipts locally
L316[09:30:42] <Izaya> one hopes not squenix
L317[09:30:47] <Forecaster> ah
L318[09:30:58] <Michiyo> Square, credit card processor, card reader plugs into phone/tablet
L319[09:37:37] <vifino> But is it in square shape?
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L321[09:41:47] <Michiyo> Yes.. yes it is.
L322[09:42:04] <Forecaster> missed opportunity to have an ironic name
L323[09:42:31] <Michiyo> https://michi.pc-logix.com/632fa379be38cdd1d2a.png
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L330[09:49:23] <vifino> oh, those things, i see them quite a few times
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L335[10:42:20] <payonel> LeshaInc: set palette is a good solution for setting colors via ansi code, but i wanted a cyan that worked out of the box, and thus 00b6ff is pretty good
L336[10:43:21] <payonel> LeshaInc: the problem with 00ffff is that if a user switches from 8 bit to 4 bit, the colors on screen are redrawn to 4 bit, and if we had drawn cyan it becomes green
L337[10:43:28] <payonel> maybe that doesn't matter
L338[10:44:33] <payonel> btw, are the values you linked in your palette screen shot your proposals for the ansi color values? (except for cyna)
L339[10:44:44] <Syrren> s/na)/an)/
L340[10:44:44] <MichiBot> Syrren: Invalid regex Unmatched closing ')' near index 1
L341[10:44:49] <Syrren> s/na\)/an\)/
L342[10:44:49] <MichiBot> <payonel> btw, are the values you linked in your palette screen shot your proposals for the ansi color values? (except for cyan)
L343[10:44:53] <payonel> Syrren: thanks
L344[10:44:56] <Syrren> np
L345[10:46:33] <LeshaInc> payonel: they go in order, so black is 30 and white is 37
L346[10:46:49] <LeshaInc> and below is brighter versions to use in bold text
L347[10:46:52] <LeshaInc> cyan is broken
L348[10:46:55] <payonel> LeshaInc: that i understand
L349[10:47:10] <payonel> but i was wondering if those rgb values are your proposals, or just your musings
L350[10:47:37] <LeshaInc> payonel: just musings, i was trying to use default 4 bit palette
L351[10:48:07] <payonel> they look like good values to map the ansi codes to
L352[10:48:19] <payonel> but i'd use 00b6ff for cyan
L353[10:48:33] <LeshaInc> what about bright cyan?
L354[10:48:44] <LeshaInc> 00ffff?
L355[10:49:08] <payonel> that only works in 8bit, and becomes green if the user changes to 4bit
L356[10:49:24] <payonel> which is unlikely, but ... bothers me
L357[10:50:14] <payonel> what i mean is ...
L358[10:50:46] <Izaya> Amusing. I blocked my phone's kernel and a bunch of system services from using the network and now it always has a ! on the WiFi icon
L359[10:51:58] <payonel> echo 8 > /dev/components/by-type/gpu/0/depth; echo -ne '\27[PE00FFFF'; echo -e '\27[46mX'; echo 4 >/dev/components/by-type/gpu/0/depth
L360[10:52:00] <XDjackieXD> Izaya: probably because you blocked network to the service that tries to reach the google connectivity check website
L361[10:52:09] <Izaya> yup
L362[10:52:17] <Izaya> Don't want it phoning home
L363[10:52:20] <LeshaInc> payonel: i didn't find 00b6ff in the 4 bit palette
L364[10:52:20] <Izaya> 's just amusing
L365[10:52:22] <payonel> LeshaInc: that would show green ^ [ assuming the palette setter was in place ]
L366[10:52:55] <AmandaC> Izaya: It literally checks https://google.com/blank ISTR and if the body isn't empty, throws the ! up.
L367[10:53:15] <payonel> LeshaInc: in 4 bit mode, use gpu.setForeground(0x00b6ff)
L368[10:53:16] <AmandaC> ah, not /blank, something like that though
L369[10:53:19] <payonel> that's what i'm talking about
L370[10:53:19] <Izaya> Would either timeout or be refused
L371[10:53:32] <AmandaC> It's to check for captive portals
L372[10:53:54] <Izaya> yup
L373[10:54:06] <payonel> ok i have to go afk for about 1.5 hours
L374[10:54:07] <payonel> o/
L375[10:54:09] * payonel is afk
L376[10:54:11] <Izaya> that service only has LAN access
L377[10:54:12] <Izaya> o/
L378[10:54:20] <LeshaInc> payonel: now i understand the problem with setPaletteColor; we can't handle depth changing
L379[10:54:28] <Izaya> which makes it a little pointless I guess
L380[10:54:34] <LeshaInc> oh
L381[10:54:39] <XDjackieXD> Izaya: no google cloud messaging installed?
L382[10:54:51] <Izaya> but \o/ maybe it'll still work to login later
L383[10:54:58] <Izaya> XDjackieXD: no google * installed
L384[10:55:25] <Izaya> phone is a clean CM13 build with no google stuff
L385[10:55:29] <XDjackieXD> you could use microG if you want to use apps that require GMS
L386[10:55:35] <XDjackieXD> also why cm13 and not lineager
L387[10:55:40] <XDjackieXD> *lineageOS
L388[10:55:41] <Izaya> don't need GMS
L389[10:55:59] <Izaya> because CM13 has a 'block calls from !contacts' button
L390[10:56:11] <Izaya> theme engine is also nice but \o/
L391[10:56:27] <XDjackieXD> theme engine is the only thing I miss in lineage.
L392[10:56:46] <Izaya> yeah I get a lot of telemarketer calls
L393[10:56:48] <XDjackieXD> I tried substratum but having to unisntall it before every OTA update makes it really annoying
L394[10:56:54] <XDjackieXD> lolwat?
L395[10:57:07] <Izaya> so I just autoreject stuff from not in my contacts
L396[10:57:08] <Izaya> hey man
L397[10:57:19] <Izaya> you may have the right to peace under the EU
L398[10:57:22] <Izaya> I live in hell
L399[10:57:30] <Izaya> telemarketer calls are basically mandatory
L400[10:58:39] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/tkjwis.png old pic but none of these are actual people
L401[10:58:50] <XDjackieXD> o.o
L402[10:59:20] * XDjackieXD would set up automatic call routing to automagically route the call of one telemarketer to one random other telemarketer :>
L403[10:59:39] <Skye> yeah, Izaya should do that, and get blacklisted by all telemarketers
L404[10:59:48] <XDjackieXD> yep
L405[11:04:40] <Izaya> o.o https://systemspace.link a timer for a death cult?
L406[11:06:58] <XDjackieXD> saw that already. try to register xD
L407[11:07:30] <XDjackieXD> (https://systemspace.link/register.php)
L408[11:07:51] <gamax92> Hello
L409[11:08:27] <Forecaster> "their user will forever hold the broken soul's memories"
L410[11:08:27] <Forecaster> wut
L411[11:09:48] <XDjackieXD> it seems to be some form of imageboard like 4chan
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L413[11:10:41] <Izaya> I talked to the guy on the lainchan IRC a year or so back
L414[11:10:53] <Izaya> only heard about the death cult thing yesterday
L415[11:12:21] <Forecaster> http://tinyurl.com/yccro398
L416[11:13:04] <Forecaster> I'm not doing that... too much effort
L417[11:13:21] <Izaya> aye
L418[11:14:04] <vifino> time to get paper
L419[11:14:17] <Forecaster> also what is the point of the image
L420[11:14:27] <XDjackieXD> Forecaster: nothing really :P
L421[11:14:35] <XDjackieXD> it's more like a fancy "I'm not a bot"
L422[11:15:04] <Forecaster> just use a captcha or re-captcha :I
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L424[11:16:44] <XDjackieXD> Forecaster: doesn't fit the story
L425[11:16:52] <Forecaster> I don't care :P
L426[11:17:16] <Forecaster> that's irrelevant unless you want to trick people
L427[11:17:40] <XDjackieXD> I should register with a "noot noot" penguin drawing :P
L428[11:22:47] <Saphire> https://www.khronos.org/registry/OpenGL-Refpages/gl4/html/glDebugMessageCallback.xhtml
L429[11:22:51] <Saphire> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo
L430[11:22:58] <Saphire> It's 4.3+
L431[11:23:01] <Saphire> :c
L432[11:23:03] <Saphire> Fuck
L433[11:37:41] <Izaya> s/oo$/OOT/g
L434[11:37:42] <MichiBot> <Saphire> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooOOT
L435[11:40:07] <XDjackieXD> http://nootnoot.net/
L436[11:46:25] <gamax92> LeshaInc: personally i would just not use the ansi colors and use mc's wool colors
L437[11:50:36] <LeshaInc> gamax92: don't we want OpenOS to become more UNIX-like, just4fun?
L438[11:50:51] <gamax92> sure but the 4bit palette does not have ansi colors in it it has wool colors
L439[11:51:17] <LeshaInc> gamax92: but we can change it using setPaletteColor
L440[11:51:26] <gamax92> and?
L441[11:51:39] <LeshaInc> and use ansi colors instead of wool colors
L442[11:51:49] <gamax92> you can't make that a default setting though
L443[11:52:22] <LeshaInc> why?
L444[11:52:42] <gamax92> because that would break compatibility and depth changes would put it back to the old colors
L445[11:54:18] <gamax92> LeshaInc: have you actually looked at the two color sets though, they are the same for 15 colors, just that bright cyan is orange
L446[11:56:30] <LeshaInc> i think that color sets should be default and if you change colors in your .shrc, for example, you have to change palette colors by yourself
L447[11:57:01] <gamax92> the default color set is mc's wool colors.
L448[11:57:52] <LeshaInc> payonel: http://i.imgur.com/wVT9VG6.png here's the default color set which is just mapped mc's wool colors
L449[11:58:11] <LeshaInc> (mapping can be changed in next iteration)
L450[11:58:23] <gamax92> ...
L451[11:58:41] <gamax92> yeah ... red is brighter than pink?
L452[11:59:11] <LeshaInc> seems like really brighter
L453[11:59:23] <gamax92> red is not brighter than pink.
L454[11:59:30] <LeshaInc> and yeah, black and bright black should be swapped
L455[12:00:40] <LeshaInc> not perfect, but it can be changed in your .shrc
L456[12:01:30] <payonel> LeshaInc and gamax92: i agree with gamax92 btw, openos shouldn't be changing the palette. so either our ansi colors are close to ansi or are wool colors, or something -- but i'm not going to be changing the palette
L457[12:02:12] <payonel> if OC wants to change the default colors in the 4bit depth, that's another thing. just saying openos won't
L458[12:03:06] <payonel> LeshaInc: also, i do think this is a very subjective discussion -- it's not clearly wrong or right either way
L459[12:03:18] <payonel> i do try to make openos more linuxy all the time, that's the whole reason i'm here
L460[12:03:38] <payonel> well and...because it's fun, and, lots of reasons
L461[12:03:52] <payonel> if anything i've learned more about linux doing this than the total sum of my linux knowledge before
L462[12:04:53] <LeshaInc> btw, for the same reasons i'm creating POSIX compliance shell for OpenOS right now
L463[12:05:47] <payonel> anything you would like to contribute or suggestion to openos /bin/sh would be of interest for review
L464[12:06:08] <payonel> i do have to balance posix compliance with things like simplicity (it is a mod, after all) and memory cost
L465[12:06:41] <payonel> also sorry i haven't testing `tree` yet, definitely will
L466[12:07:29] <LeshaInc> i don't think /bin/sh should be POSIX-comliant by default (that would cost too much)
L467[12:08:14] <LeshaInc> just brace expanding took ~100 lines of code and here's a lot to do
L468[12:10:43] * Saphire shivers
L469[12:14:49] <payonel> LeshaInc: yeah, i agree. but if you come across a posix thing that you think it helpful and simple and lacking in openos' sh, i'd be interested in that discussion
L470[12:15:28] <payonel> LeshaInc: also - it would be good to know if you are able to use your shell as a boot shell
L471[12:15:42] <payonel> you should be able to set SHELL in the profile
L472[12:15:45] <payonel> err
L473[12:16:02] <payonel> no, because of reasons...in /boot/94_shell.lua
L474[12:16:19] <LeshaInc> maybe rc.d is better?
L475[12:16:38] <payonel> no, i dont see how?
L476[12:17:12] <payonel> anyways, i'm just saying, as you build a shell it would be good to test openos' supposed support of custom shells, you should be able to set the env var SHELL in /boot/94_shell.lua and "it should just work"
L477[12:17:24] <LeshaInc> see /etc/rc.d/example.lua
L478[12:18:11] <LeshaInc> you can create a service that starts at the computer booting
L479[12:18:42] <payonel> and? i dont see how setting your shell is better in an rc script. my other point is that currently $SHELL is set in /boot/94_shell.lua
L480[12:19:12] <payonel> you could set your shell in that right now, and it should be used on boot
L481[12:19:28] <LeshaInc> oh, i thought there is no such script
L482[12:19:47] <LeshaInc> payonel: i think that better to handle SHELL variable like hostname
L483[12:20:01] <payonel> well, /boot/94_shell.lua is a legacy boot file, it used to do a lot more (stuff that is in /etc/profile now)
L484[12:20:37] <LeshaInc> or even better, in /etc/passwd, but we don't have users
L485[12:20:45] <Saphire> OH HEY
L486[12:20:48] <Saphire> I'M AN IDIOT
L487[12:21:48] <Saphire> I forgot to actually set the array :V
L488[12:22:03] <LeshaInc> payonel: about sh improvments: currenly sh has no tilde-expansion, like ~/path/to/file, ~+/ and ~-/
L489[12:22:23] <payonel> oh yeah...i started working on that once and then got sidetracked
L490[12:22:33] <payonel> honestly...something like a year ago
L491[12:22:54] * Saphire sighs
L492[12:23:22] <payonel> LeshaInc: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2451 closed
L493[12:23:50] <gamax92> LeshaInc payonel: https://i.imgur.com/9iMrNdV.png
L494[12:24:41] <LeshaInc> gamax92: i proposed something looking like that
L495[12:25:06] <gamax92> ?
L496[12:25:49] <LeshaInc> gamax92: http://i.imgur.com/wVT9VG6.png that link, slightly different from your variant
L497[12:26:34] <gamax92> mine is just a 1 to 1 mapping of the default palette
L498[12:26:35] <LeshaInc> payonel: can i copy LS_COLORS loading code from ls sources?
L499[12:26:47] <payonel> of course, why not?
L500[12:26:49] <LeshaInc> gamax92: mine too
L501[12:26:53] <gamax92> no it isnt
L502[12:27:12] <gamax92> OC's default palette in 4 bit mode goes in that same order
L503[12:27:30] <gamax92> well, reversed, white is in palette 0 and black in palette 15
L504[12:28:25] <gamax92> I didn't swap anything around or try to arrange colors like you did, it's just the default 4 bit palette in reverse order compared to a terminal palette
L505[12:29:37] <LeshaInc> gamax92: ok, i see
L506[12:29:51] <LeshaInc> i didn't tried to reverse default palette
L507[12:31:57] * Saphire whines
L508[12:32:02] <Saphire> Oh f...
L509[12:32:12] <Saphire> I need to use darn geometry shader...
L510[12:32:21] <Saphire> ...or just say fuck it all and spam verticles.
L511[12:33:00] <Saphire> Welp, going to sleep now
L512[12:33:30] <gamax92> good night
L513[12:36:43] <AshIndigo> night saph
L514[12:45:35] <LeshaInc> payonel: http://i.imgur.com/PuKeDKp.png
L515[12:46:01] <LeshaInc> oh i see it doesn't output header line
L516[12:49:50] <LeshaInc> fixed: http://i.imgur.com/rd7pwlq.png
L517[12:57:05] <payonel> nice :)
L518[13:02:37] <LeshaInc> payonel: found a bug, if cp tries to overwrite a file it asks for permission; it's line editor corrupts shells history
L519[13:04:38] <LeshaInc> (btw i pushed changes in tree utility)
L520[13:05:34] <payonel> LeshaInc: that's not cp's fault. that's another thing. yeah, i need to rethink stuff a tiny bit about that
L521[13:06:59] <payonel> LeshaInc: btw, it's only a matter of style really, but if you prefer, io.write takes an arg list, you don't have to concat
L522[13:07:31] <LeshaInc> i know, but i may miss it somewhere
L523[13:07:48] <payonel> though...i guess technically io.write("\27["..c.."m") would execute slightly faster, because in that case you wouldn't be caching the ansi escape in the tty library :)
L524[13:08:11] <payonel> which i support! .. :)
L525[13:08:31] <LeshaInc> :)
L526[13:10:22] <payonel> LeshaInc: https://github.com/LeshaInc/OpenComputers/blob/55e55b1dc2a403269c20c3816e70e666dd4f04b8/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/openos/bin/tree.lua#L266
L527[13:10:37] <payonel> you are checking for `if coloring` elsewhere, but maybe not there?
L528[13:11:22] <LeshaInc> oh, colorize(...) would return an empty string if coloring is off
L529[13:11:36] <payonel> yes but, you're still writing the ansi escape
L530[13:11:41] <LeshaInc> i see
L531[13:11:54] <LeshaInc> ok, i'll fix that, thanks
L532[13:12:00] <payonel> np :)
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L534[13:15:45] <gamax92> my internet is basically non existant atm
L535[13:15:58] <LeshaInc> payonel: fixed
L536[13:19:30] <LeshaInc> payonel: isn't that strange that ls is 374 lines long, but tree is only 321?
L537[13:20:06] <payonel> ls is made complicated because of the width measurements and the option to show msft style summary
L538[13:20:42] <payonel> AND because it deserves another rewrite
L539[13:20:47] <payonel> it's on my personal todo list
L540[13:20:48] <payonel> :)
L541[13:22:54] <payonel> so you like that text.split function? it is one of two core text parsing methods used by shell parsing
L542[13:24:17] <payonel> well, i should say it is the main part of the 2nd branch of the parsing
L543[13:24:23] <LeshaInc> yep, that would remove boilerplate code
L544[13:24:24] <payonel> the first is the quote parse
L545[13:24:54] <LeshaInc> but i would not use it in my posix shell because it's much more complicated
L546[13:38:15] <payonel> LeshaInc: well for example, if you need to parse a{b, c, d} you could: text.internal.tokenize("a{b, c, d}", {quotes={{"{", "}"}}})
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L548[13:39:15] <Inari> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/mswish/ut-rtc.html
L549[13:42:36] <LeshaInc> payonel: wouldn't that handle escaping , character, isn't it?
L550[13:43:04] <payonel> LeshaInc: can you rephrase that question?
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L552[13:44:25] <LeshaInc> oh, a{b, c, d, e\}, f} like that
L553[13:44:41] <LeshaInc> escape quotes
L554[13:45:25] <Michiyo> %weather 72396
L555[13:45:26] <MichiBot> Current weather for Wynne, AR Current Temp: 90.4°F/32.4°C Feels Like: 101°F/38°C Current Humidity: 60% Wind: From the SW 1.0 Mph/1.6 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L556[13:45:30] <Michiyo> q_q
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L558[13:46:28] <LeshaInc> %weather 3252
L559[13:46:29] <MichiBot> Current weather for Lochmere, NH Current Temp: 69.3°F/20.7°C Feels Like: 69.3°F/20.7°C Current Humidity: 53% Wind: From the East 0.0 Mph/0.0 Km/h Conditions: Mostly Cloudy
L560[13:47:09] <LeshaInc> %weather 3200
L561[13:47:09] <MichiBot> No data returned
L562[13:47:13] <LeshaInc> wut
L563[13:48:35] <AshIndigo> %w 3200
L564[13:48:35] <MichiBot> No data returned
L565[13:52:14] <payonel> LeshaInc: i didn't document the full extent of the text lib because it is quite esoteric, and the data types returned are not simple...also, i want the freedom to optimize things at any point
L566[13:52:43] <payonel> but, it should be able to handle most of what you'd want to do
L567[13:53:03] <payonel> there are a few things i know it isn't ready for, like multi-char "quotes" groups, like, $( ... )
L568[13:53:19] <payonel> that $( is two chars. simple improvement, but
L569[13:54:06] <payonel> $( $( ) ) is also a thing, and, it doesn't handle that well
L570[13:54:53] <payonel> upgrading the tokenizer to see embedded groups -- when the starting indicator is distinct from the closing indicator ...
L571[13:55:12] <payonel> is something i'd like to do, but it's definitely not very high on my todo list
L572[13:59:53] <LeshaInc> payonel: for me handwritten tokenizers would be better as i know exactly what's going on
L573[14:08:20] <payonel> sure, the counter argument is just that the text lib is very heavily tested
L574[14:10:49] <rashy> \o/
L575[14:16:20] <payonel> hi rashy
L576[14:16:29] <rashy> ello
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L580[14:42:55] <AshIndigo> no 1.12 oc on jenkins yet?
L581[14:47:02] <gamax92> Sangar has abandoned us and I'm not sure if Vexatos was looking into it
L582[14:47:18] <Vexatos> well
L583[14:47:20] <Vexatos> it compiles
L584[14:47:23] <Vexatos> Nothing else
L585[14:47:24] <Vexatos> :P
L586[14:47:45] <payonel> Vexatos: :) that should be the alpha release note: "It compiles"
L587[14:47:57] <Vexatos> It does not launch.
L588[14:47:59] <Vexatos> It compiles.
L589[14:48:37] * AshIndigo adds duct tape to it and hope it works
L590[14:48:45] * payonel clones Sangar from 2014 and brings him to present day to work on OC again
L591[14:50:14] <rashy> y u do this, sangar
L592[14:50:43] <payonel> rashy: :) because we all get to a point where we're either tired of working on something or want to pursue other ideas
L593[14:50:52] <rashy> xD
L594[14:50:53] <rashy> fair
L595[14:50:56] <payonel> or we just feel we've done what we initially set out to do
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L597[14:52:10] <gamax92> also because Sangar has a job now
L598[14:53:24] <payonel> we need to significantly increase his patreon
L599[14:53:28] * payonel is afk
L600[15:02:18] <AshIndigo> ~markov MichiBot
L601[15:02:20] <ocdoc> Wed Sep 21 10:38:02 CDT 2016 @Twylo: And data card hashing isn't Java or Bob a Way | length 9m 44s | Likes: 0
L602[15:02:48] <gamax92> ~markov MichiBot
L603[15:02:49] <ocdoc> <gamax92> fuck this body types currently setup as 3 things in one shot :3
L604[15:02:58] <gamax92> .-.
L605[15:05:05] <gamax92> ~markov AshIndigo
L606[15:05:13] <ocdoc> "not enough for me to use risc
L607[15:10:27] <Kaggin> ~markov ds84182
L608[15:10:28] <ocdoc> Totally get computer.explode on April fools joke :>
L609[15:11:07] <Kaggin> ~markov ds84182
L610[15:11:09] <ocdoc> Ouch child at this point I just need to do is handle moving all my existing code to make the dictionary generation part is that the code
L611[15:11:15] <vifino> ~markov vifino
L612[15:11:18] <ocdoc> Soni: Care about 8mb they are loaded, you made me shudder :D I love toying around with freebsd.
L613[15:11:19] <Kaggin> Ouch child
L614[15:11:30] <vifino> well then
L615[15:11:34] <Kaggin> vifino: freebsd is not to be toyed with
L616[15:11:36] <Kaggin> this is a warning
L617[15:11:40] <vifino> no u
L618[15:11:51] <Kaggin> you either commit to BSD or you dont
L619[15:12:12] <vifino> welllll
L620[15:12:14] <vifino> FreeBSD brick 11.0-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 11.0-RELEASE-p9 #0: Tue Apr 11 08:48:40 UTC 2017 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
L621[15:12:32] <vifino> i dun committererd
L622[15:13:18] <gamax92> ~markov Temia
L623[15:13:20] <ocdoc> I mean the Kiss Note is anything but a few minutes later -- after a kernel module that would take a whole new plugin for Dokuwiki.
L624[15:13:48] <Kaggin> ~markov Achai
L625[15:13:49] <ocdoc> gamax92: I want to see "code quality", see where I simply ran return '2+2 = '..(2+2)
L626[15:13:49] <vifino> DokuWiki kernel plugin, love it.
L627[15:13:53] <Kaggin> that reminds me
L628[15:14:00] *** Kaggin is now known as Achai
L629[15:14:17] <Temia> For when you just don't care about security
L630[15:14:19] <AshIndigo> %choose 1.10.2 or 1.11.2 or 1.12
L631[15:14:20] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: 1.11.2
L632[15:14:29] <AshIndigo> hmm
L633[15:15:18] <gamax92> %choose 1.2.5 or 1.3.2 or 1.4.7 or 1.6.4 or 1.7.10 or 1.10.2
L634[15:15:19] <MichiBot> gamax92: 1.4.7
L635[15:15:24] <Temia> %choose FFXIV or FFIX or RF4 or MC
L636[15:15:25] <MichiBot> Temia: FFXIV
L637[15:15:27] <gamax92> time to go back to redpower2 days
L638[15:16:02] <gamax92> %choose complain or hope
L639[15:16:03] <MichiBot> gamax92: hope
L640[15:16:09] * gamax92 continues to hope.
L641[15:16:52] * AshIndigo hm's harder
L642[15:17:13] <Achai> Temia: RFF or bust
L643[15:17:27] <Achai> :<
L644[15:18:05] <Temia> Does Frontier have monsterboys husbandos? I think not!
L645[15:18:13] <Achai> Thats true
L646[15:18:51] <Achai> you could just... mod Frontier ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L647[15:19:07] <Temia> Also Amber is too precious for words so I am obligated to be green-haired BFFs with her
L648[15:20:32] <gamax92> I have only played or looked at one of those four games
L649[15:21:16] <Achai> gamax92: MC?
L650[15:21:18] <Achai> hehe
L651[15:21:47] <gamax92> one requires a 3DS so that's a no go
L652[15:22:21] <gamax92> "You are using a browser not recommended for viewing FINAL FANTASY XIV"
L653[15:22:27] <gamax92> this is chrome.
L654[15:22:49] <gamax92> yeah, that one needs money.
L655[15:23:40] <Temia> Oddly they don't complain when I use Vivaldi
L656[15:24:25] <Temia> Or they did but only once and I paid it as little mind as I always do
L657[15:25:04] <gamax92> and this is a playstation game?
L658[15:25:40] <Temia> PS4 and Windows, on the same servers
L659[15:25:55] <gamax92> no, ffix
L660[15:26:03] <Temia> Oh
L661[15:26:25] <Temia> Yeah, but there's a Windows port too
L662[15:37:59] <Vindex> Hi, question - how exactly microcontrollers get powered?
L663[15:38:50] <Vindex> I mean - if I understand their purpose to be e.g. small controller hidden behind a machine to control it, it would be stupid to pull an OC cable there..
L664[15:39:18] <Vindex> wireless would be so much more reasonable
L665[15:48:46] <Temia> I believe they convert other power systems just fine.
L666[15:49:23] <Temia> So plug in a conduit, hook up a duct, string a wire, or connect an IC2 cable, whatever works for you.
L667[15:52:21] <Vindex> that would be nice, ok
L668[15:55:11] <Inari> I still wish OC microcontrollers were less niche
L669[15:56:21] <Vindex> yeah, I'm reading this https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1369#issuecomment-158163788
L670[16:03:50] * Inari mollifies the tree felling loli
L671[16:08:04] <Temia> Who would that be? `-`
L672[16:08:49] <Inari> Tenten
L673[16:08:56] <gamax92> the earth isn't round! but it's not flat, a cube, half dome, or a Icosagon
L674[16:09:07] <Temia> Is it a donut?
L675[16:09:12] <gamax92> it's actually a giant nude woman who's skin is the world we live on, hence the term mother earth
L676[16:09:20] <Inari> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295953846054944768/332991485677010954/unknown.png
L677[16:09:50] <Temia> I don't know whose fetish that is, but I'm not enabling it `-`
L678[16:10:55] <gamax92> also donut world would be interesting
L679[16:12:21] <Temia> That's like 90% of JRPGs though, Gamax :o
L680[16:12:32] <gamax92> oh?
L681[16:12:38] <Temia> Yep.
L682[16:12:39] <gamax92> I uhh, haven't played much
L683[16:12:56] <Temia> The way maps loop north/south and east/west in JRPGs requires a toroidal shape, or a donut
L684[16:14:00] <gamax92> ahhh
L685[16:15:39] <gamax92> idea doesn't really hold up though but
L686[16:16:54] <gamax92> that would screw up distances along the outside and inside rings of the torus
L687[16:18:02] <Temia> It's a very, very flat torus.
L688[16:18:26] <Temia> Cellars have to mind constructions on the other side of the planet.
L689[16:19:07] <Temia> ...
L690[16:19:13] <Temia> I have a sudden craving for squid salad .,.
L691[16:19:36] <gamax92> scary
L692[16:37:03] <Michiyo> https://github.com/blog/2392-introducing-code-owners
L693[16:37:04] <Michiyo> neat
L694[17:18:37] <gamax92> Achai: if you only have a decoder you can make a encoder by brute forcing the input and seeing what values decode the closest to your original input
L695[17:19:19] <gamax92> and or try to walk the algorithm backwards but ehh.
L696[17:20:21] <AmandaC> %choose youtube or meh
L697[17:20:22] <MichiBot> AmandaC: meh
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L700[18:02:31] <gamax92> %choose flail at friend or wait
L701[18:02:31] <MichiBot> gamax92: wait
L702[18:02:39] * gamax92 continues to hope
L703[18:02:59] <vifino> flail at all the things.
L704[18:03:15] <gamax92> hey it's vifino :D
L705[18:03:23] <vifino> Where?!
L706[18:03:41] <vifino> oh, right. That's me!
L707[18:03:43] <vifino> Hello!
L708[18:04:47] <gamax92> where is the make internet more stablifier 5000X
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L710[18:05:25] <gamax92> oh well I'll be switching places soon in a few hours so get to go to the land of good internet
L711[18:06:01] <vifino> yay!
L712[18:06:30] <gamax92> where I can stop getting videos that have supposedly buffered up to a certain point but keep pausing well before that
L713[18:06:56] <gamax92> or videos that rebuffer when you loop through them
L714[18:09:23] <gamax92> this is supposed to be a music album but this is just 10 tracks of incoherent non rhythmic sounds
L715[18:12:55] <Achai> what
L716[18:17:38] <gamax92> Achai: ?
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L718[19:08:38] <AshIndigo> ~markov AshIndigo
L719[19:08:38] <ocdoc> %calc 1 + 1 + 1 to 1.5 inch
L720[19:08:45] <AshIndigo> Yes
L721[19:34:37] <soonTM> Is there a way to set a filesystem to be read-only in survival?
L722[19:34:43] <soonTM> Is there a way to set a filesystem to be read-only in SMP?
L723[19:35:45] <soonTM> oh sorry, necropost :p
L724[19:37:06] <AshIndigo> pretty sure
L725[19:37:11] <AshIndigo> ~w filesystem
L726[19:37:11] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem
L727[19:37:29] <AshIndigo> ~w hard drive
L728[19:37:29] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:oc3_hard_drives
L729[19:39:11] <soonTM> Nope.
L730[19:39:31] <AshIndigo> hmm :/
L731[19:40:17] <AshIndigo> you can make an eeprom read only
L732[19:40:31] <soonTM> pfc
L733[19:40:33] <soonTM> ofc*
L734[19:40:44] <soonTM> but what use is an EEPROM to a secure operating system? :p
L735[19:41:04] <AshIndigo> :\
L736[19:41:58] <soonTM> only way i see of making this OS airtight is using some kind of fancy network based system decryption
L737[19:42:15] <soonTM> via data cards
L738[19:44:00] <soonTM> blockchain in minecraft
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L747[21:27:56] <Saphire> soonTM: wat
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L755[23:14:00] <Izaya> :|
L756[23:14:09] <Izaya> arch is nicer but debian is better for xen
L757[23:14:11] <Izaya> wat do
L758[23:15:03] <Izaya> inb4 .choose
L759[23:15:06] <Izaya> .choose debian arch
L760[23:15:12] <Izaya> %choose debian arch
L761[23:15:13] <MichiBot> Izaya: debian arch
L762[23:15:18] <Mimiru> or
L763[23:15:18] <Izaya> ...
L764[23:15:22] <Izaya> %choose debian, arch
L765[23:15:22] <MichiBot> Izaya: debian, arch
L766[23:15:22] <Mimiru> %choose 1 or 2
L767[23:15:24] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 2
L768[23:15:46] <Mimiru> %choose debian or arch
L769[23:15:46] <MichiBot> Mimiru: debian
L770[23:16:07] <Mimiru> Izaya, ^
L771[23:16:26] <Izaya> there we go
L772[23:16:34] <Izaya> though there is another option
L773[23:16:40] <Izaya> both
L774[23:16:47] <Mimiru> %choose 1 or 2 or 3 or 4
L775[23:16:47] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 3
L776[23:16:48] <Mimiru> :P
L777[23:16:55] <Izaya> both it is.
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