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L13[02:55:25] <Forecaster> %give MichiBot Feelings
L14[02:55:26] * MichiBot accepts Feelings and adds it to her inventory
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L20[04:19:12] <neptunepink> How does one %give MichiBot the understanding of symbols as their referents and not just as lexical objects?
L21[04:28:17] <Syrren> Easy,
L22[04:28:17] <Syrren> %give MichiBot the understanding of symbols as their referents
L23[04:28:19] * MichiBot accepts the understanding of symbols as their referents and adds it to her inventory
L24[04:30:00] <Forecaster> feel free to invent AI any time :P
L25[04:31:58] <neptunepink> I won't be writing it in god-forsaken lua, that's for sure.
L26[04:32:17] <Forecaster> MichiBot is Java
L27[04:32:17] <Syrren> neptunepink: MichiBot is written in Java, fwiw
L28[04:32:17] <Forecaster> :P
L29[04:33:46] <neptunepink> I'd probably like lua more if my encounters with it weren't embedded in things that are terrible development environments.
L30[04:34:12] <Forecaster> kay
L31[04:35:19] <Inari> Forecaster: But but
L32[04:35:20] <Inari> We have AI
L33[04:35:26] * Inari points to LuMistry
L34[04:36:32] <Forecaster> uh huh
L35[04:36:34] <Forecaster> :P
L36[04:38:01] <Vexatos> neptunepink, IDEA is a good Lua development environment :3
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L38[04:39:27] <Vexatos> awww
L39[04:50:24] <Corded> * <Wuerfel21> _made a program that plays extemly dodgy versions of SID music. In OC.
L40[04:53:48] <Wuerfel_21> But it can actually be listened to without spontaneous ear drum failure
L41[04:56:29] <Vexatos> What do you use to produce audio?
L42[04:56:47] <Vexatos> There's only like six options by now
L43[05:00:15] <Wuerfel_21> the computronics sound card
L44[05:00:59] <Vexatos> neat
L45[05:01:14] <Wuerfel_21> A PC program is used to play the PSID/RSID files and dump the sound registers 50 times a second
L46[05:02:04] <Wuerfel_21> the resulting file is copy-pasted into OC, where an incredibly slow program converts it to a MIDI-like format called "CMEF"
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L48[05:02:20] <Wuerfel_21> ...which is then played back
L49[05:10:24] <Wuerfel_21> Curiously, sometimes it sounds as if it were repeating a queue.
L50[05:10:55] <Wuerfel_21> But my brute-force coding can't be at fault. I think.
L51[05:33:30] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/6evqm1/i_unlocked_this_ingame_currency/
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L54[05:44:38] <Wuerfel_21> just... dafuq
L55[05:45:10] <Wuerfel_21> mobile games are the only thing I can call cancer without shame
L56[05:45:35] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/iTfyGV1.gifv the hero we need
L57[05:50:56] <Inari> AmandaC / payonel : https://i.imgur.com/XMyYFRf.gifv
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L59[05:53:05] <Inari> payonel: https://i.imgur.com/JVnLP9G.gifv ;D
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L61[06:13:05] <LuMistry> Yes, Inari?
L62[06:22:38] <Inari> https://g.redditmedia.com/LTIyD0qL0Ic2q_fOQzuQ04RTkTxJBa0Kl-wtzRIbiV8.gif?w=720&fm=mp4&mp4-fragmented=false&s=d68d246b702fb01f9267c8267def93c4 neat
L63[06:22:47] <Inari> LuMistry: ? Well, read the context? :D
L64[06:22:57] <LuMistry> Yes
L65[06:23:11] <Inari> Not sure what you're asking then
L66[06:24:31] <LuMistry> I was wondering if there was anything more to add, or if you have questions
L67[06:24:36] <LuMistry> I can see not
L68[06:47:46] <MGR> "You just destroyed my favorite clothing store. Prepare to die" -- Coco Adel, who gave the most badass line I've seen in 2017
L69[06:48:21] <MGR> She then proceeded to beat up a monster twice her size with her handbag
L70[06:49:41] <Inari> It's easy to do that when the storyboard says you can
L71[06:52:06] <MGR> Not wrong, but still badass
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L84[08:52:14] <Michiyo> ugh shitty start to the day
L85[08:52:27] <MGR> What happened?
L86[08:52:30] <AmandaC> MichiBot: did my murder present not please you? :(
L87[08:53:10] <AmandaC> %choose watch in livingroom or watch in bedroom
L88[08:53:12] <MichiBot> AmandaC: watch in bedroom
L89[08:53:14] <AmandaC> hrm
L90[08:53:29] <AmandaC> nah, I feel like getting some sun
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L92[08:53:30] <Michiyo> got out of the house 7 minutes late, made it to the store next to work to get my breakfast, and the asshole in front of me bought the last 3 biscuits.. was just going to get my tea but you have to have a minimum $3 purchase to use a debit card, and I had no cash.
L93[08:53:49] <AmandaC> Aww. :(
L94[08:54:23] <Michiyo> yeah, it's monday alright ._.
L95[08:55:52] <AmandaC> but the good news is, it's a small town, so you know where the biscuit thief lives, and can send a willing kitty to kill him in his sleep! :P
L96[08:56:11] <AmandaC> My rates vary based on distance to travel.
L97[08:57:22] <20kdc> ...mercenary kittens.
L98[08:57:28] <MGR> That's too bad
L99[09:02:47] <Michiyo> I don't know where he lives :P
L100[09:03:05] <Michiyo> Theres still 8,000 other people here and I do my best to know as few as possible.
L101[09:04:19] <AmandaC> :P
L102[09:04:51] <20kdc> ...I now understand why quadcopters are so popular.
L103[09:08:11] <Michiyo> I just got a "new" one
L104[09:08:15] <Michiyo> (it's new to me.. lol)
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L108[09:39:15] <Michiyo> ...
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L110[09:39:17] zsh sets mode: +v on MichiBot
L111[09:39:19] <Michiyo> MichiBot com..
L112[09:39:21] <Michiyo> oh
L113[09:39:22] <Michiyo> hai
L114[09:59:58] <gamax92> hey
L115[10:01:47] <Michiyo> o/.
L116[10:01:50] <Michiyo> ... .
L117[10:03:39] * gamax92 gives Michiyo breakfast sausage
L118[10:03:44] <Michiyo> \o/
L119[10:08:00] <Inari> payonel / AmandaC : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUQNt3FFzbg
L120[10:08:04] <MichiBot> Funny Cats Playing Game With Ipad ll Funny cats compilation | length: 5m 18s | Likes: 104 Dislikes: 6 Views: 369 | by Fun2Fun | Published On 30/4/2017
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L122[10:41:54] <gamax92> I am sick.
L123[10:42:15] <Michiyo> :(
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L125[10:44:01] * AmandaC makes a mental note to check the barrier between the digital and physical worlds, as a sickness seems to be traveling around the internet among the people she observes
L126[10:44:09] <AmandaC> but first: More anime.
L127[10:45:24] <Michiyo> ffs 12 needs to hurry up
L128[10:45:27] <Michiyo> I'm starving
L129[10:45:36] <Michiyo> well, not really..
L130[10:45:37] <Michiyo> but damn
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L132[11:16:57] <Syrren> http://i.imgur.com/afKauVw.jpg
L133[11:19:51] <Michiyo> "compat"
L134[11:19:54] <Michiyo> err ..
L135[11:19:56] <Michiyo> hai
L136[11:19:57] <Michiyo> :P
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L138[11:34:53] <Mimiru> bah.. I kinda wish deleting a message removed the "highlight" from the channel
L139[11:35:26] <Inari> gamax92: Heh, now you're sick when I'm getting better :P Get well
L140[11:35:50] <Inari> AmandaC: Whatcha watching?
L141[11:38:45] <gamax92> Inari: thanks.
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L143[11:46:21] <Kodos> If anyone's interested, Doctor Strange is now on Netflix (US)
L144[11:46:27] <Kodos> Not sure about other countries
L145[11:56:42] <gamax92> I ... apparently don't know how to use sysprof, I do a profile and the only thing it lists in every single program is fjes_hw_epbuf_tx_pkt_send
L146[11:58:23] <AmandaC> Inari: Boku no Hero Acadamia S2
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L148[11:59:57] *** cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L149[12:00:59] *** cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
L150[12:01:38] <MGR> GE also developed a 5.56 caliber version called the "Six Pack" or "Microgun" (officially the XM214), which was envisaged with the insane fire rate of 9000-10000 rpm. It was tested but not adopted, proving that there were limits to how far one could push the big numbers of little bullets philosophy. It is worth noting though that unlike nearly all the other rotary barrel weapons, this one actually was capable of being man portable
L151[12:01:44] <MGR> Why did nobody buy that
L152[12:02:06] <MGR> The article says it was because of lacking stopping power, but ITS A BACKPACK GATLING GUN
L153[12:02:21] <AshIndigo> *pew*
L154[12:02:49] <gamax92> well this is garbage, purged
L155[12:06:02] <payonel> Inari: http://imgur.com/a/EdqQ3
L156[12:06:44] <Ember> \o3o/
L157[12:06:51] <Ember> im so happy :D
L158[12:10:10] <payonel> ember: =D why is that?
L159[12:11:36] <Ember> got my drawing tablet :D
L160[12:12:30] <payonel> why do you like to draw?
L161[12:12:33] <payonel> .....\
L162[12:12:40] <payonel> sorry, i meant "what*"
L163[12:12:45] <payonel> what* do you like to draw?
L164[12:22:15] <Ember> uh
L165[12:22:26] <Ember> almost anything
L166[12:22:37] <Ember> but i love landscapes and porttraits
L167[12:23:11] <Ember> also fantasy scapes
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L175[12:54:54] <Forecaster> what tablet is it?
L176[12:55:11] <Ember> Huion H420
L177[12:55:16] * Forecaster has an Intuos Pen & Touch currently
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L179[12:55:54] <Forecaster> looks neat
L180[13:01:38] <Ember> i got mine for free :P
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L183[13:12:15] <Forecaster> nice
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L189[13:36:53] <Inari> https://torrentfreak.com/denuvo-accused-of-using-unlicensed-software-to-protect-it-anti-piracy-tool-170605/ thats rather amusing :P
L190[13:41:33] <payonel> Inari: nice :)
L191[13:41:43] <Inari> They settled apparently though
L192[13:42:01] <AshIndigo> Pure irony right there
L193[13:42:04] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/CrackWatch/comments/6fcz8h/denuvo_is_not_going_to_be_sued/
L194[13:46:41] <payonel> i should add drm to openos
L195[13:46:51] <Inari> Haha
L196[13:47:41] <Inari> It's really interesting how much effort companies and such put into "STOPPING THE PIRACY!"
L197[13:47:54] <Inari> I don't think it really shows in their profits
L198[13:47:57] <Inari> But dunno
L199[13:48:16] <Inari> It's even more amusing when people are against DRM, but then put some kinda DRM or such into their game when they make one xD
L200[13:48:25] <payonel> ha, yeah
L201[13:49:10] <Inari> Usually excusing themsleves by saying "I'm not a huge company with al ot of money!"
L202[13:53:02] <payonel> i like games that are easy to use, backup, hack for fun. so clearly im anti drm. and i'm biased that drm does not help, particularly from comments like this: https://youtu.be/NWhTLvNEYbQ
L203[13:53:09] <MichiBot> Marcin Iwiński (CD Projekt) & Artur Kurasiński (Muse) - Lessons learned / infoShare 2016 | length: 28m 53s | Likes: 546 Dislikes: 7 Views: 32,698 | by infoSharePL | Published On 29/6/2016
L204[13:55:41] <payonel> oh that link didn't have a timestamp, sorry
L205[13:57:18] <Gethiox> there is a way to communicate with other blocks by robot like computers with adapters did? I am trying to get Quarry (buildcraft) work state with my robot. Computer can access it via component.peripheral.hasWork()
L206[13:57:26] <payonel> in case you want to watch it, this is Marcin Iwinski of CD Projekt saying drm hurts consumers and doesn't help the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhTLvNEYbQ&feature=youtu.be&t=15m07s
L207[13:57:27] <MichiBot> Marcin Iwiński (CD Projekt) & Artur Kurasiński (Muse) - Lessons learned / infoShare 2016 | length: 28m 53s | Likes: 546 Dislikes: 7 Views: 32,698 | by infoSharePL | Published On 29/6/2016
L208[13:58:13] <payonel> Gethiox: robots need upgrades to interact with blocks, just like a computer does
L209[13:58:46] <payonel> Gethiox: also, component.peripheral is computercraft lingo
L210[13:58:51] <payonel> this is openocomputers
L211[14:00:00] <gamax92> Inari: :(
L212[14:02:41] <payonel> Gethiox: actually, i'm not sure about robots and adapters, i'm not the right one to ask about that sorry
L213[14:02:48] <Gethiox> payonel: there is no such an upgrade like adapter, also I can't put adapter on robot assembling stage
L214[14:02:53] <Gethiox> np
L215[14:03:01] <payonel> Gethiox: can the robot stand next to the adapter?
L216[14:03:38] <payonel> also, in looking through the robot and adapter docs i have found some lacking areas of our wiki o_O
L217[14:04:47] <Michiyo> can the robot use adapters? I've never actually tried lol
L218[14:04:47] <Gethiox> it can, but that way doesn't work
L219[14:05:04] <Gethiox> I am affraid it can't :c
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L222[14:05:18] <Michiyo> also, woot.. delivery philly cheese steak
L223[14:05:32] <Michiyo> hoy hoy hooooy
L224[14:05:35] <Michiyo> ouch
L225[14:05:35] <Michiyo> hot
L226[14:05:37] <Michiyo> *
L227[14:06:11] <Ember> hiya ;D
L228[14:06:19] <Michiyo> o/ ember
L229[14:06:27] <Michiyo> damn.. they coulda brought me napkins lol
L230[14:06:42] <Michiyo> but holy shit this is good
L231[14:06:47] <Ember> what?
L232[14:07:10] <payonel> xarses: robots and adapters? how?
L233[14:07:29] <Gavle> I'm still upset that I can't remember the question I need to ask
L234[14:07:37] <Michiyo> Philly Cheese Steak, delivered from Domino's pizza
L235[14:07:37] <Gavle> It's pretty important, but I can't remember it...
L236[14:07:45] <Inari> payonel: I am biased because I just think piratin ghappens either when people can't really afford it - in which case theya ren't going to buy it anyway. Or when pirating provides the better service. Or when they don't want to buy it - in which case they won't buy it anyway :P
L237[14:08:06] <Michiyo> Inari, you hit the nail on the head.
L238[14:08:28] <payonel> Inari: we're on the same page
L239[14:08:31] <Forecaster> There was a recent game where the DRM was causing performance issues
L240[14:08:44] <Ember> >.>
L241[14:08:53] <Ember> idk domino's
L242[14:09:00] <Forecaster> Because they were checking too often if everything was okay apparently
L243[14:09:01] <payonel> Inari: not sure if my wording was confusing, if it sounded like i was in the other camp
L244[14:09:05] <Michiyo> They just opened here
L245[14:09:21] <Inari> payonel: Nah
L246[14:09:55] <Inari> payonel: I know it from myself, and have heard it from many others too. Like if a game's on steam (granted steam is DRM, but you can have a game that doesn't use that DRM, so can be run without steam and downloaded on steam). And I have the money to buy it, I'll buy it :P
L247[14:10:12] <Vexatos> Inari, or when you live at the god damn end of the universe and 'this thing is not available in your country' ,_,
L248[14:10:26] <Forecaster> And people who removed the DRM reported improved performance
L249[14:10:35] <Forecaster> :P
L250[14:10:41] <Inari> Heh
L251[14:10:47] <Forecaster> I forget which game it was
L252[14:11:04] <payonel> inari: yeah, also consider: what bothers me is when i do have the money and i do buy the game, but then i want to play it single player offline and "nope"
L253[14:11:07] <Vexatos> Like half of the OSTs I like listening to ,_,
L254[14:11:08] <Michiyo> Rime?
L255[14:11:12] <Forecaster> It was in today's jimquisition
L256[14:11:13] <Michiyo> Forecaster, ^
L257[14:11:24] <Vexatos> Which have been sold ten years ago for like a year, and only in a single country
L258[14:11:33] <Vexatos> so yea good luck buying that thing >_>
L259[14:11:37] <Michiyo> "Pirates Say Rime's DRM Slows Down The Game, But Denuvo Denies It [UPDATE]"
L260[14:11:39] <Forecaster> Maybe Rime yeah
L261[14:11:46] <Michiyo> lmao.. denuvo
L262[14:12:05] <Inari> Well
L263[14:12:19] <Inari> Denuvo does additoinal processing so clearly using denuvo uses more procesing, so it may slow the game
L264[14:12:23] <Inari> No?
L265[14:12:23] <Inari> :P
L266[14:12:45] <gamax92> doing more things takes more time takes away time for doing gaming things
L267[14:12:47] <Inari> @Forecaster ah, someone else that watched jimquisition :P
L268[14:12:48] <payonel> Inari: stop being so logical
L269[14:12:59] <Michiyo> hey hey..
L270[14:13:03] <Michiyo> none of that logic shit here
L271[14:13:03] <gamax92> now
L272[14:13:21] <Michiyo> tasty tasty sammich
L273[14:13:35] <payonel> Inari: http://cdn.somethinggeeky.com/product-images/large/nandcattshirt_4e80c09cccd2f.jpg
L274[14:13:51] <Forecaster> Inari well Jim is amazing so of course
L275[14:13:53] <Inari> payonel: What about a nand fox? ;D
L276[14:13:59] <Vexatos> %sel "LOGIC"
L277[14:14:00] <MichiBot> LOGIC
L278[14:14:19] <Vexatos> `°´
L279[14:14:39] <Vexatos> Someone find me a use for Selene please
L280[14:14:43] <payonel> hahah
L281[14:14:56] <Vexatos> so many features and nothing to do with them
L282[14:14:58] <Vexatos> AAAAAAAAAAAAA
L283[14:15:03] <Forecaster> What do you mean
L284[14:15:04] <Vexatos> I really want to use it some day :I
L285[14:15:15] <Forecaster> It's in michibot
L286[14:15:21] <Vexatos> Yea but
L287[14:15:21] <Forecaster> What more could you want
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L289[14:15:26] <Forecaster> :P
L290[14:15:28] <Vexatos> :I
L291[14:15:37] <Vexatos> I don't know
L292[14:15:40] <payonel> Vexatos: if we had a selene cpu -- would you make an os?
L293[14:15:51] <Vexatos> You usually don't do bulk data operations in an IRC message
L294[14:16:03] <Inari> Just make a MMO with selene
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L296[14:25:34] <Michiyo> Seriously, MichiBot is the perfect use for a language no one knows!
L297[14:25:34] <MichiBot> Michiyo: No u!
L298[14:25:38] <Michiyo> ...
L299[14:25:43] * Michiyo pokes MichiBot
L300[14:25:43] * MichiBot squeaks!
L301[14:26:21] <Michiyo> heh..
L302[14:27:30] <Forecaster> the new reaction system is better than I imagined
L303[14:29:20] <Forecaster> :P
L304[14:30:10] <Michiyo> :P
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L306[14:32:50] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L307[14:33:09] <Vexatos> well that was fun
L308[14:33:17] <Vexatos> Lost like 6 IRC messages >_>
L309[14:33:59] <Vexatos> payonel, I couldn't really make an OS that's better than OpenOS, and OpenOS can run Selene anyway >_>
L310[14:35:38] <payonel> but it could be fun :>
L311[14:36:18] <Vexatos> all I can do is make selene work in more environments
L312[14:36:39] <Vexatos> So far, I got it to work in OpenOS, CraftOS, plan9k, love2d and /bin/lua >_>
L313[14:37:00] <Vexatos> and gamax in michibot >_>
L314[14:37:33] <Vexatos> All that's left is finding a place where I would think "selene would be nice to have right now" :I
L315[14:37:44] <Vexatos> Which hasn't happened yet >_>
L316[14:39:52] <Michiyo> leave it to a programmer to make a language that nobody needs :P
L317[14:40:02] <Vexatos> o7
L318[14:40:11] <Vexatos> Well I mean it's like super useful.... in theory
L319[14:40:31] <Vexatos> it has so many cool things in it ._.
L320[14:44:26] <Forecaster> I'd use it for the += operators :P
L321[14:44:34] <Forecaster> probably
L322[14:45:13] <Vexatos> There's generally not that much use for all the bulk data operations in OC at least >_>
L323[14:45:26] <Vexatos> And those are like 70% of Selene
L324[14:45:27] <Michiyo> "+="?
L325[14:45:29] <Michiyo> sign me up
L326[14:45:47] <Vexatos> Yea selene has all of those, albeit in a slightly derpy way
L327[14:46:03] <Vexatos> a *= 4 + 7 translates to a = a * 4 + 7 instead of a = a * (4 + 7) >_>
L328[14:46:03] <Michiyo> i++ :P
L329[14:46:22] <Vexatos> because the latter is waaaay too expensive to parse
L330[14:46:48] * Michiyo sighs
L331[14:46:52] <Vexatos> And would likely require parentheses anyway so I can just use a += (4+7) doing the same thing and save a bunch of parsing >_>
L332[14:47:01] <Michiyo> Stormblood drops in 15 days, and I'm stuck at level 40.5.. :/
L333[14:47:23] <Vexatos> the most useful operator in Selene is probably ..=
L334[14:48:09] <Vexatos> or :=
L335[14:48:43] <payonel> %sel v="hi" print($(v))
L336[14:48:43] <MichiBot> hi
L337[14:49:09] <Michiyo> %lua print(v)
L338[14:49:15] <Michiyo> meh lol
L339[14:49:17] <MichiBot> hi
L340[14:49:20] <Michiyo> ...
L341[14:49:23] <Michiyo> gg MichiBot
L342[14:49:24] <Michiyo> gg
L343[14:49:39] <payonel> %sel ("")..=("cat")
L344[14:49:49] <payonel> :)
L345[14:49:57] * Michiyo nods
L346[14:50:02] <Vexatos> %sel local v = "banana" v:=match("an") return v
L347[14:50:03] * Michiyo and smiles
L348[14:50:14] <Michiyo> %test
L349[14:50:19] <Michiyo> MichiBot...
L350[14:50:21] <Vexatos> rip
L351[14:50:27] <Vexatos> I brokeded it
L352[14:50:42] <Michiyo> hmm
L353[14:50:49] <MichiBot> main:1: syntax error near '..'
L354[14:50:50] <MichiBot> an
L355[14:50:51] <Vexatos> o k
L356[14:50:51] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L357[14:51:04] <Michiyo> %test
L358[14:51:05] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L359[14:51:07] <Michiyo> %p
L360[14:51:09] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.61s
L361[14:51:25] <Michiyo> %p
L362[14:51:26] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Michiyo 0.48s
L363[14:51:35] <Forecaster> took a while to get to that syntax error
L364[14:51:36] <Michiyo> looks like some kinda network issue
L365[14:51:41] <Forecaster> :P
L366[14:51:59] <Michiyo> %sel ("")..=("cat")
L367[14:51:59] <MichiBot> main:1: syntax error near '..'
L368[14:52:56] <Vexatos> MichiBot, that won't work
L369[14:53:16] <vifino> MichiBot knows that, Vexatos.
L370[14:53:16] <Vexatos> the operator only works with a variable :P
L371[14:53:32] <Vexatos> %sel local a = "" a..="cat" return a
L372[14:53:32] <MichiBot> cat
L373[14:53:36] <Vexatos> like that
L374[14:54:13] <payonel> Vexatos: i was testing it :)
L375[14:54:18] <Vexatos> D:
L376[14:54:35] <Vexatos> payonel, are you perhaps implying that Selene might contain bugs?
L377[14:54:42] <Vexatos> Outrageous!
L378[14:54:54] <payonel> haha
L379[14:55:27] <Vexatos> %sel ("Banana"):reverse:reverse:reverse:reverse:reverse
L380[14:55:27] <MichiBot> ananaB
L381[14:55:30] <Vexatos> Nice >_>
L382[14:55:37] <Michiyo> I was testing it to make sure that wasn't what hung the bot
L383[14:55:54] <Vexatos> %sel repeat until false
L384[14:55:58] <MichiBot> script took too long
L385[14:56:04] <Vexatos> yea that's what should happen >_>
L386[14:56:32] <Michiyo> yes, should.
L387[14:56:37] <Michiyo> key word, should.
L388[14:56:42] <Vexatos> %sel for i = 1, math.huge do while true do repeat ::potato:: goto potato until false end end
L389[14:56:46] <MichiBot> script took too long
L390[14:56:48] <Vexatos> ok
L391[14:58:52] <Vexatos> %sel #(->)
L392[14:58:52] <MichiBot> 0
L393[14:58:54] <Vexatos> %sel #(a->)
L394[14:58:54] <MichiBot> 1
L395[14:58:56] <Vexatos> %sel #(a, b->)
L396[14:58:56] <MichiBot> 2
L397[14:58:58] <Vexatos> %sel #(a, b, c->)
L398[14:58:58] <MichiBot> 3
L399[14:59:00] <Vexatos> nice
L400[14:59:35] <Vexatos> %sel #(a, b, c!a==b->)
L401[14:59:35] <MichiBot> 3
L402[14:59:43] <Vexatos> I never actually tested that one >_>
L403[14:59:58] <payonel> %spam
L404[15:00:06] <payonel> :P
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L406[15:00:20] <Vexatos> %sel for _, j in pairs(_ENV) do print(type(j)) end
L407[15:00:24] <MichiBot> Message too long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/uhuviwusal
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L409[15:00:37] <Vexatos> %sel for _, j in pairs(_ENV) do print(i, type(j)) end
L410[15:00:37] <MichiBot> Message too long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/idixemixid
L411[15:00:53] <Vexatos> uuh derp
L412[15:00:57] <Vexatos> %sel for i, j in pairs(_ENV) do print(i, type(j)) end
L413[15:00:57] <MichiBot> Message too long to send to channel https://paste.pc-logix.com/iluhagacoj
L414[15:01:29] <Vexatos> payonel, now behold the best command
L415[15:02:00] <payonel> vex:gsub(".*","")
L416[15:03:27] <Vexatos> D:
L417[15:04:39] <payonel> i didn't mean it :|
L418[15:04:57] <payonel> to be honest, i talk about you and selene to my friends
L419[15:05:12] <Vexatos> Hm I wonder
L420[15:05:22] <Forecaster> that's a lie
L421[15:05:27] <Forecaster> programmers don't have friends D:
L422[15:05:31] <Vexatos> %sel local v = ${6, 7, 8, 9} print(v:concat) print(v:flip:reduce(m,a->m..a))
L423[15:05:31] <MichiBot> 6789 | main:1: [Selene] bad argument #1 (got empty list)
L424[15:05:38] <Vexatos> heh
L425[15:05:39] <Vexatos> right
L426[15:05:56] <payonel> though, recently, that has mostly been, "yeah so vex made this compiler that found some rather long standing limitations in openos"
L427[15:06:07] <payonel> Forecaster: ha
L428[15:06:08] <Vexatos> %sel local v = ${6, 7, 8, 9} print(v:foreach(print)) print(v:flip:foreach(print))
L429[15:06:09] <MichiBot> 1, 6 | 2, 7 | 3, 8 | 4, 9 | |
L430[15:06:15] <Vexatos> huh.
L431[15:06:47] <Vexatos> payonel, you talk with friends about OpenOS? ,_,
L432[15:07:27] <Vexatos> Forecaster: Can confirm
L433[15:09:04] <payonel> Vexatos: do i talk about openos? yes
L434[15:09:10] <payonel> is that unusual?
L435[15:09:43] <Vexatos> oh dang
L436[15:09:47] <Vexatos> I just found a bug in Selene
L437[15:09:51] <Vexatos> But hmm, how to fix it
L438[15:10:13] <Vexatos> payonel, do you have a suggestion for a reasonably fast way to check whether something is a list, i.e. can be fully iterated through with ipairs
L439[15:11:22] <Vexatos> The only idea I have is >>local c = 0 for i in pairs(t) do c = c + 1 end return c == #t
L440[15:11:25] <Vexatos> But that's uuuh
L441[15:11:26] <Vexatos> yea :I
L442[15:11:32] <payonel> not faster than n, no
L443[15:11:33] <payonel> yeah
L444[15:11:44] <Vexatos> I guess I'll do that
L445[15:12:31] <Vexatos> payonel, https://hastebin.com/iworibipaz.lua
L446[15:12:35] <Vexatos> do you think that's worth it?
L447[15:12:44] <gamax92> actually I might have a trick, Vexatos
L448[15:12:52] <Vexatos> go on.
L449[15:14:46] <gamax92> well it doesn't protect against gaps, but you can do: next(tbl, #tbl) == nil
L450[15:16:15] <gamax92> ahh fuck nope that doesn't work at all
L451[15:16:22] <Vexatos> that would error, no?
L452[15:16:31] <gamax92> also that
L453[15:16:43] <Vexatos> I guess O(n) is fine.... right?
L454[15:16:53] <Vexatos> :I
L455[15:17:15] <Vexatos> Not sure if the type() check is worth it
L456[15:17:25] <Vexatos> It could massively reduce cost on big maps
L457[15:17:43] <payonel> Vexatos: i wonder if sanitizing input would help
L458[15:17:46] <Vexatos> opinions?
L459[15:17:53] <Vexatos> "sanitize"?
L460[15:18:19] <payonel> e.g. intercept newindex and keep track of "array"ness of the keys
L461[15:18:32] <Vexatos> oh this is before I wrap the table
L462[15:18:34] <Vexatos> that is the thing
L463[15:18:42] <Vexatos> before wrapping, I need to know whether it's a list or a map
L464[15:18:42] <payonel> ok
L465[15:18:53] <payonel> i see, the table pre-exists
L466[15:19:03] <Vexatos> like the very action of $(t)
L467[15:19:06] <Vexatos> needs to check for that
L468[15:19:33] <payonel> can you delay checking the type? (where type is list vs map)
L469[15:19:35] <Vexatos> wrapped tables themselves are fine
L470[15:19:39] <Vexatos> they are immutable :P
L471[15:19:44] <Vexatos> __newindex errors
L472[15:19:50] <Forecaster> https://xkcd.com/1846/
L473[15:19:53] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Drone Problems Posted on: 6/5/2017
L474[15:20:51] <Vexatos> payonel, the metatable it gets depends on it
L475[15:21:11] <Vexatos> I need to do it at _some_ point anyway
L476[15:21:13] <Vexatos> so better early
L477[15:21:25] <payonel> but maybe you never need to know?
L478[15:21:33] <payonel> or do you expect you always need to know
L479[15:21:45] <Vexatos> well, all bulk data operations depend on it
L480[15:21:56] <Vexatos> since it chooses between using pairs and ipairs
L481[15:22:00] <Vexatos> depending on whether ipairs will work
L482[15:22:31] <Vexatos> so it will be in order on lists
L483[15:23:25] <Vexatos> soo uuuh, what do >_>
L484[15:34:13] <Vexatos> Hey Michiyo, I fixed another selene bug yay >_>
L485[15:34:20] <Forecaster> woo
L486[15:34:28] <payonel> Inari: http://i.imgur.com/clJEG8c.jpg
L487[15:34:29] <Vexatos> payonel, I guess this is fine :I https://github.com/Vexatos/Selene/commit/8731dc9b2e2efc0d012fc69faf007d0720c52410
L488[15:36:10] <Michiyo> Chances of it getting fixed in MichiBot somewhere between 0.01% and 0.02%
L489[15:36:26] <Vexatos> oh well >_>
L490[15:36:35] <Vexatos> You totally need an %updatesel command :P
L491[15:36:55] <Inari> payonel: hehe ^^
L492[15:37:10] <payonel> Inari: those are my cats :)
L493[15:37:24] <AmandaC> %command add updatesel Vexatos has the ability to update it himself, why would I do it for him?
L494[15:37:30] <AmandaC> :p
L495[15:37:37] <Vexatos> AmandaC, I cannot update selene in michibot
L496[15:38:02] <AmandaC> Why not? She's open source and I'm sure Michiyo would accept a PR
L497[15:38:04] <gamax92> zoom in on that collar
L498[15:38:05] <gamax92> enhance
L499[15:38:09] <gamax92> remove the fur
L500[15:38:13] <Michiyo> ^
L501[15:38:13] <gamax92> aha!
L502[15:38:27] <Vexatos> Should I really >_>
L503[15:38:29] <Michiyo> %yt red dwarf enhance
L504[15:38:32] <MichiBot> Michiyo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aINa6tg3fo - *Red Dwarf Blade Runner Esper Sequence - YouTube*: "Jul 1, 2009 ... This is my version of the Red Dwarf Back to Earth parody of Blade Runner Esper Machine sequence, this was a class project for ..."
L505[15:38:37] <Michiyo> no?
L506[15:38:39] <Michiyo> maybe?
L507[15:38:40] <Michiyo> idk
L508[15:38:43] <Vexatos> I thought a PR would be annoying >_>
L509[15:38:43] <Michiyo> Anyway.
L510[15:38:48] <Vexatos> >_>
L511[15:38:49] <Michiyo> I don't mind PRs
L512[15:39:02] <Forecaster> I just randomly updated MichiBot just a few minutes ago :P
L513[15:39:11] <Michiyo> does selene in michibot require anything special? like did it need edited?
L514[15:39:16] <gamax92> not anymore
L515[15:39:27] <Michiyo> k, then I can just do a whatever git calls that thing
L516[15:39:32] <Michiyo> and pull it on build :p
L517[15:39:32] <Vexatos> Yea we made it so that you can just copypaste the two files yesterday
L518[15:39:40] <Vexatos> submodule? >_>
L519[15:39:46] <Michiyo> Yeah
L520[15:39:46] <Michiyo> that
L521[15:39:48] <Vexatos> or just hardcode the two URLs
L522[15:40:06] <AmandaC> No, clearly it's less annoying to stab her every time you make a small change, and makes her update it herself!
L523[15:40:09] <Michiyo> Hmm, I could just make MichiBot fetch the files on boot :P
L524[15:40:22] <Vexatos> and hope github isn't down, sure :P
L525[15:40:31] <Michiyo> lol
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L527[15:41:01] <Vexatos> thanks MichiBot >_>
L528[15:41:01] <MichiBot> Vexatos: You're welcome!
L529[15:41:04] <payonel> hi brandon3055 !
L530[15:41:25] <brandon3055> hi
L531[15:41:30] <Vexatos> hi
L532[15:41:34] <Vexatos> %sel hi
L533[15:41:34] <MichiBot> nil
L534[15:41:34] <Forecaster> ih
L535[15:41:48] <Vexatos> %sel $"hi"
L536[15:41:48] <MichiBot> hi
L537[15:41:50] <Vexatos> %sel $"hi":flip
L538[15:41:50] <MichiBot> table: 0x7f0414004540
L539[15:41:51] <payonel> brandon3055: anything new in DE you're working on?
L540[15:41:54] <Vexatos> heh
L541[15:42:08] <gamax92> ya dun fooked up
L542[15:42:15] <Vexatos> nope
L543[15:42:29] <Vexatos> payonel, table.flip is clearly best command
L544[15:42:37] <brandon3055> New... No but i am in the process of updating the last block missing from the 1.10 version! https://twitter.com/Brandon3055/status/871124574435385346
L545[15:42:39] <MichiBot> Sat Jun 03 17:00:57 CDT 2017 @Brandon3055: Ok everyone help me decide. Stick with the massive gui? or try some sort of page based or scrolling system?
L546[15:42:44] <gamax92> %sel $"hi":reverse
L547[15:42:44] <MichiBot> ih
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L549[15:43:36] <Vexatos> %sel table.concat(table.flip({a = 4, b = 3, 2, 1}))
L550[15:43:36] <MichiBot> 21ba
L551[15:43:39] <payonel> hello new brandon3055_
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L553[15:43:46] <Vexatos> totally works
L554[15:43:53] <Vexatos> table.flip is best function
L555[15:44:09] <Forecaster> %flip ^
L556[15:44:10] <MichiBot> Forecaster: (╯°□°）╯uoıʇɔunɟ ʇsǝq sı dılɟ˙ǝlqɐʇ
L557[15:44:11] <brandon3055_> Rip guess my internet isnt going to let me stick around long :(
L558[15:44:37] <Vexatos> Forecaster, I wanted to add a table.flip and make it maybe somewhat useful
L559[15:46:01] <Michiyo> I have to figure out this off by one in my GUI
L560[15:46:08] * payonel afk for a while, laters
L561[15:46:25] <Michiyo> I REALLY need to convert my inventories to capabs..
L562[15:46:27] <Michiyo> but...
L563[15:46:29] <Michiyo> :/
L564[15:47:35] *** brandon3055_ is now known as brandon3055
L565[15:47:44] <Forecaster> but time and effort?
L566[15:54:44] <Michiyo> yes
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L568[15:59:12] <wowowwo> Hey, I'm trying to write an inventory tracker for my AE2 network, and it's been going really well until now. I've managed to both retrieve and serialize the content of the network, but I want to apply 'data.deflate' to it before storing it to disk. This is not working, and the error message is "not enough energy"
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L570[15:59:34] <wowowwo> My RF network has plenty of energy, so I guess this must be some limit on the conversion rate from RF to OCs power type
L571[16:00:52] <wowowwo> I've tried to add a single capacitor, but this didn't seem to change the outcome any. Looking at the code, the check seems to be "node.tryChangeBuffer", but my knowledge of java/scala is limited so I was unable to figure out exactly how this works. Is the entire OC network taken into account as the buffer, or just the machine the check is being run on?
L572[16:06:04] <wowowwo> Also, is it possible to figure out this cost, from within opencomputers?
L573[16:06:29] <Forecaster> what do you mean by "entire OC network"?
L574[16:06:44] <Forecaster> components connected via cable share power
L575[16:06:57] <Forecaster> unless there's a relay in the way
L576[16:07:12] <wowowwo> So that means that I just haven't added enough capacitors then
L577[16:08:00] <Forecaster> is the capactior actually being drained?
L578[16:08:23] <wowowwo> I have not been able to test that as the function isn't run if the call would be to expensive
L579[16:08:39] <Forecaster> ah
L580[16:08:45] <Forecaster> well, try adding more capacitors I guess
L581[16:08:49] <wowowwo> Ahh there we go, I added 10 capacitors to the machine, and it worked
L582[16:09:12] <wowowwo> I could bring that number down I'm sure, but a buffer woun't hurt I guess
L583[16:09:29] <Forecaster> yeah, so basically there's a lot of data to process
L584[16:09:52] <wowowwo> I guess I could do a call to machine.energy() before and after the call to see an imprecise guess at the cost
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L586[16:10:07] <Forecaster> yeah
L587[16:10:16] <wowowwo> Thank you very much :D
L588[16:11:11] <Forecaster> I didn't do much but you're welcome :P
L589[16:13:15] <wowowwo> I'm kind of worried about the scalability of my idea though. I've never played with AE2 before, but I'm guessing my network is still very small, barley 3 ME drives of disks. But that was enough to fill the memory of the tier 1 computer, when I called 'me_controller.getAvailableItems()'. Normally I would have solved that by streaming the data, but the me_controller component doesn't offer any such methods.
L590[16:13:41] <wowowwo> I'll guess I'll have to partition the AE2 network if it ever grows past the max memory I can get on a tier 3 machine
L591[16:14:10] <Forecaster> yeah
L592[16:14:26] <Forecaster> I don't use AE myself so I don't know
L593[16:15:47] <wowowwo> I've come back to minecraft after a long time, and I'm playing with a lot of mods I don't know. I can't really imagen myself playing without Ender IO or AE2 again though, hehe. Or something equivalent.
L594[16:17:50] <Forecaster> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L595[16:17:52] <wowowwo> The energy difference seems to be 6349.0 on the data.deflate call.
L596[16:17:59] <Forecaster> I don't really like either of those
L597[16:19:11] <wowowwo> Can I ask what you dislike about them and if you use any alternatives, what they are?
L598[16:20:05] <Forecaster> one is too redundant with things I already have (mostly ic2) and the other is too "set and forget" item storage
L599[16:21:24] <payonel> Inari: https://slack-files.com/T025QNLGW-F5NT1A083-4e6a392fa0
L600[16:21:32] <wowowwo> Hmm, I guess AE2 is "set and forget" for people smarter than me, I'm having a hard enough time keeping the channels straight and such >_>'
L601[16:25:01] <Inari> payonel: thats some long paw legs
L602[16:25:10] <Inari> Whats that? sphinx cat? o.o
L603[16:40:07] <payonel> Inari: yep, that's my coworker's sphynx cat
L604[16:40:13] <Inari> neat
L605[16:43:21] <Michiyo> %xkcd 979
L606[16:43:22] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Wisdom of the Ancients URL: https://xkcd.com/979
L607[16:43:24] <Michiyo> :(
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L609[16:46:41] <Inari> Michiyo: Whatcha looking an answer for?
L610[16:58:40] <Michiyo> (And no one heard from Michiyo again)
L611[17:17:05] *** Michiyo is now known as NotMichiyo
L612[17:17:06] <NotMichiyo> http://puu.sh/wbY4i/6222724a91.jpg
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L615[17:34:18] <Forecaster> Or you could probably use the handle that's right there :P
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L620[18:12:20] <Izaya> ...WHY?
L621[18:12:36] <Izaya> exa-git: replacement for ls written in rust
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L625[18:43:36] <vifino> Izaya: RIR strikes again.
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L631[18:54:59] <payonel> %tell Inari and check out the eyes :) http://i.imgur.com/wEOxTjr.gif
L632[18:54:59] <MichiBot> payonel: Inari will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L634[19:12:41] <gamax92> hey ds84182?
L635[19:12:58] <gamax92> what was that site you were using before with the assembly comparison?
L636[19:49:17] <S3> The kitties have been found!!!
L637[19:49:30] <S3> They were in my chair this while time
L638[19:49:37] <S3> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nhLs28VD/IMG_20170605_204543579.jpg
L639[20:05:15] <Mimiru> there, I made MichiBot's build script pull the latest selene on build
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L641[20:21:57] <gamax92> toasty cpu, sitting at 56C
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