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L2[00:00:49] <hollow> o/
L3[00:01:55] <hollow> Is there a way to
easily put in addresses for adapters? Or do I need to type them in
each and every time?
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L5[00:06:10] <fingercomp> hollow: take the
analyzer, hold shift+control and click on adapter. The address will
be copied.
L6[00:06:38] <hollow> :o thank you so
much... this saves LOADS of time
L7[00:07:12] <fingercomp> you can also
shift-click with the analyzer on the adapter and then click on the
address printed to chat
L8[00:08:31] <hollow> Huh, cool
L9[00:08:40] <hollow> The more you
know
L10[00:09:18] <payonel> also,
/dev/components/ has files for components
L11[00:09:40] <payonel> and address is a
file you can cat (or read) to get the addres
L12[00:09:43] <payonel> +s
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L19[00:58:06] <gamax92> payonel: hey
L20[00:58:11] <payonel> o/
L21[01:04:06] <gamax92> payonel: I didn't
get around to doing anything
L22[01:07:27] <gamax92> payonel: so have a
file instead https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/examples/UTF-8-test.txt
L23[01:20:56] <gamax92> I have no cat
videos either sorry
L24[01:33:33] <payonel> that's a good doc,
i should review and test it
L25[01:33:50] <gamax92> best reddit
css
L26[01:33:51] <gamax92> .thing.comment {
transform: rotate(50deg); }
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L34[02:49:22] <BloodyRain2k> ahh, my boiler
setup wasn't exactly wrong
L35[02:49:35] <BloodyRain2k> though the
boilers were one size too large, the mistake was using HP
ones
L36[02:52:22] <BloodyRain2k> or not, size
was the smallest for that, forgot the calculater measures the tank
size excluding the heating part
L37[02:58:44] <BloodyRain2k> nothing more
lovely to look at than bc liquid pipes being filled to the max in
one segment and completely empty after that for the rest of the
length, fucking pieces of shit <.<
L38[02:59:56] <AshIndigo> ~markov
BloodyRain2k
L39[02:59:56] <ocdoc> wrong access, a 2nd
level of open block is funny, that the indexing is being rewritten
for years or so and the only thing
L40[03:00:10] <BloodyRain2k> %inv add
AshIndigo
L41[03:00:14] *
MichiBot summons 'AshIndigo' and adds to her inventory. This seems
very sturdy.
L42[03:00:26] <AshIndigo> %inv add
BloodyRain2k
L43[03:00:28] <MichiBot> AshIndigo: I
cannot execute this command right now. Wait 16 seconds.
L44[03:00:32] <AshIndigo> blargh
L45[03:00:47] <BloodyRain2k> heh
L46[03:01:15] <AshIndigo> %inv add
BloodyRain2k
L47[03:01:16] *
MichiBot summons 'BloodyRain2k' and adds to her inventory. I could
get some good swings in with this.
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L49[03:28:33] <BloodyRain2k> so a forestry
multiblock apiary is "items" when connected to an
adapter
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L51[03:34:37] <Forecaster> BloodyRain2k:
the pipe thing is probably just rendering
L52[03:35:07] <Forecaster> I recall that
happening on my server
L53[03:35:25] <Forecaster> I just trigger a
block update and it fixes itself
L54[03:35:39] <Forecaster> if I recall
correctly
L55[03:36:19] <BloodyRain2k> I broke and
rebuilt that section and it stayed that fucked up
L56[03:39:29] <Forecaster> weird
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L58[03:41:04] <GraptorHC> hi
L59[03:41:30] <GraptorHC> reboot
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L61[03:42:25] <Forecaster> ...
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L63[03:43:06] <BloodyRain2k> note to self:
do NOT let the fuel tank made of open blocks tanks touch any of the
boilers...
L64[03:43:19] <GAME> ttt
L65[03:43:23] <BloodyRain2k> the empty top
half decided to become a new tank type and is now filled with steam
xD
L66[03:43:36] <BloodyRain2k> atleast it's
still also touching the turbine so it should be fine
eventually
L67[03:44:01] <BloodyRain2k> weird though
that steam's heavy and sinks to the bottom
L68[03:44:25] <GAME> Start Chrac.GOT
L69[03:44:35] <GAME> Robert Baratheon
L70[03:44:39] <GAME> Stannis
Baratheon
L71[03:44:43] <Forecaster> what
L72[03:44:44] <BloodyRain2k> mhm ok, just
the tanks not expecting gases
L73[03:44:46] <GAME> Shiriin
Baratheon
L74[03:44:49] <BloodyRain2k> another
spammer
L75[03:44:52] <BloodyRain2k> nothing
else
L76[03:44:55] <Forecaster> @Lizzy:
@Mimiru
L77[03:44:57] <GAME> Oh Hi guys
L78[03:44:58] <GAME> :D
L79[03:45:15] <BloodyRain2k> btw
Forecaster, if you ever wanna see something funny, creative
yourself a block of superheated steam and place that in your world
:3
L80[03:45:31] <BloodyRain2k> then walk
through it and look at the sun xD
L81[03:45:31] <GAME> hello Everyone
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L84[03:48:30] <GraptorHC> Hi all
L85[03:48:48] <GraptorHC> Anyone
here?
L86[03:49:15] <Forecaster> you saw us
talking just minutes ago
L87[03:49:39] <GraptorHC> Ehhh you are with
me?
L88[03:50:13] <Forecaster> what?
L89[03:50:26] <GraptorHC> Nothing just
HI
L90[03:50:45] <Forecaster> also would be
nice if you didn't spam random names
L91[03:50:57] <GraptorHC> What do you
mean?
L92[03:51:01] <GraptorHC> I am newbie
L93[03:51:12] <GraptorHC> I mean I am a new
member
L94[03:51:57] <Forecaster> you connected as
GraptorHC, then quit, reconnected as GAME, spammed some names, then
reconnected as GraptorHC again
L95[03:52:15] <GraptorHC> Uhuh now I get
it
L96[03:52:54] <GraptorHC> I was just
testing If i can connect with other names
L97[03:54:29] <GraptorHC> For the names I
thoght that I am offline or sth so I said some names for the
Computer I designed then I was that you are chating and I am not
offline
L98[03:54:53] <GraptorHC> I saw that you
were chating and I was not offline*
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L100[03:57:00] <GraptorHC> Sorry if I
spammed
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L103[04:29:57] <Inari> Yahooooo
L104[04:30:08] <Inari> Hows it going you
lua-intoxicated pumpkins?
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L106[04:46:00] <Forecaster> hey, I contain
a variety of toxic compounds D:
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L111[06:05:49] 
<Vexatos>
Like cobalt!
<Vexatos>
Like cobalt!L112[06:13:52] <AshIndigo> %inv add
cobalt
L113[06:13:53] *
MichiBot summons 'cobalt' and adds to her inventory. This seems
very sturdy.
L114[06:14:28] <g> %inv add thwimp
L115[06:14:30] *
MichiBot summons 'thwimp' and adds to her inventory. This seems
very sturdy.
L116[06:17:14] <MGR> I went
to bed for ONE NIGHT, and Intel decides to pull crazy core count
CPUs out to fight AMD
<MGR> I went
to bed for ONE NIGHT, and Intel decides to pull crazy core count
CPUs out to fight AMDL117[06:18:13] <AshIndigo> Intel vs AMD
who will win!
L118[06:18:26] <Inari> AM-Intel
L119[06:18:31] <Izaya> MGR, they still all
have hardware backdoors
L120[06:18:59] <Inari> We need to get into
printing our own CPUs
L121[06:19:02] <Inari> No backdoors
L122[06:19:17] <Izaya> yes print
CPUs
L123[06:19:21] <Izaya> use discrete
transistors
L124[06:19:43] *
AshIndigo 3d prints a new cpu
L125[06:20:15] <MGR> Izaya,
don't care
<MGR> Izaya,
don't careL126[06:20:20] <Izaya> Did I actually see
something about printing copper onto blank PCBs?
L127[06:22:35] <MGR> What I
do care about, is that my computer is now more obsolescent than
before
<MGR> What I
do care about, is that my computer is now more obsolescent than
beforeL128[06:23:00] <Izaya> That's all most
people care about. Unfortunate, really.
L129[06:23:05] <Izaya> Oh yeah, I found
something funny.
L130[06:23:23] <Izaya> So one of my
friends has an "early 2015 Macbook Air"
L131[06:23:32] <Izaya> Spent like
$1.2k
L132[06:24:06] <Izaya> Got bored and
compared it to my $300 second-hand abomination: Mine's 4 years
older and slightly better.
L133[06:24:12] *
AshIndigo replaces mgr's computer with an arduino
L134[06:24:28] <Izaya> (Oh, and both can
run OS X if you really want to hurt yourself)
L135[06:24:53] <MGR> Izaya,
Macs are over-priced, when has that not been the case XD
<MGR> Izaya,
Macs are over-priced, when has that not been the case XDL136[06:25:00] <Izaya> Yeah but like
L137[06:25:14] <Izaya> You'd think that
with 4 years on mine it'd be at least a bit better?
L138[06:25:25] <MGR> Also,
Intel is making life hell for motherboard manufacturers, because
they need to plan for THREE tiers of PCIe lanes now
<MGR> Also,
Intel is making life hell for motherboard manufacturers, because
they need to plan for THREE tiers of PCIe lanes nowL139[06:25:44] <MGR> Maybe,
but I'm still not too surprised
<MGR> Maybe,
but I'm still not too surprisedL140[06:25:45] <Izaya> But no, half as
much RAM, only a 120GB SSD, lower-res display...
L141[06:25:58] <MGR> Izaya,
but it's a Mac, so it's better
<MGR> Izaya,
but it's a Mac, so it's betterL142[06:26:11] <g> Haha
L143[06:26:13] <Izaya> But... it
isn't.
L144[06:26:21] <Izaya> The build quality
isn't even better.
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L146[06:27:35] <MGR> Izaya,
but it's a Mac, so it's better
<MGR> Izaya,
but it's a Mac, so it's betterL147[06:27:42] <Izaya> But... it
isn't.
L148[06:27:52] <MGR> But
it's a Mac
<MGR> But
it's a MacL149[06:27:59] <Izaya> MGR, you're doing a
wonderful imitation of a Mac user
L150[06:28:00] <Izaya> :3
L151[06:28:05] <MGR> That's
the point
<MGR> That's
the pointL152[06:28:06] <g> that's the joke
L153[06:28:10] <MGR> I
don't like Macs at all
<MGR> I
don't like Macs at allL154[06:28:15] <Izaya> Yeah I know
L155[06:28:16] <MGR> But
I'm mimicing what a Mac user would say
<MGR> But
I'm mimicing what a Mac user would sayL156[06:29:00] <Izaya> The ones here will
be annoyed :3
L157[06:29:38] <MGR>
True
<MGR>
TrueL158[06:30:19] <AshIndigo> ~markov
ocdoc
L159[06:30:19] <ocdoc> I have 1008 entries
in my DB.
L160[06:30:30] <AshIndigo> the number
grows
L161[06:30:46] <BloodyRain2k> you can USE
a mac? *gasp* I thought they're expensive plastic decoration
:3
L162[06:30:59] <g> Aluminium decoration
these days
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L164[06:31:36] <Izaya> BloodyRain2k: Using
one feels like cutting your fingers off with your teeth while
walking over hot coals in a bath of broken glass
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L166[06:31:50] <MGR>
https://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1347/13479024/2783572-5529833747-r2Hd8.jpg
<MGR>
https://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1347/13479024/2783572-5529833747-r2Hd8.jpgL167[06:31:52] <Izaya> :D
L168[06:32:21] <Corded> * <MGR>
groans when he realizes he isn't in the top 1% any more
L169[06:32:31] <AshIndigo> switch the
apple heathens with the console peasents
L170[06:32:33] <MGR> And
it's going to be years before I get back up there....
<MGR> And
it's going to be years before I get back up there....L171[06:32:42] <g> Izaya, it's more like
trying to do math with a bag of skittles
L172[06:32:53] <Izaya> How will you ever
survive without being able to win every imaginary dick-measuring
contest, MGR?
L173[06:33:03] <Izaya> g: I like
that.
L174[06:33:20] <g> :p
L175[06:33:23] <Izaya> Doing a technical
drawing with nothing but a paint roller and a can of poo-green
paint?
L176[06:33:40] <Izaya> Painful to use and
look at
L177[06:33:50] <MGR> Izaya,
I'm not
<MGR> Izaya,
I'm notL178[06:34:07] <Izaya> Not going to
survive? Yay!
L179[06:34:15] <MGR> I'll
just dissolve into the ground until my bank account fills up with
enough money to justify replacing the parts in my computer
<MGR> I'll
just dissolve into the ground until my bank account fills up with
enough money to justify replacing the parts in my computerL180[06:34:34] <Izaya> And then come back
like anthrax?
L181[06:35:23] <g> the office is so quiet
today, the printer literally just turned itself off
L182[06:35:39] <MGR> Izaya,
exactly
<MGR> Izaya,
exactlyL183[06:35:51] <MGR> Now
you're getting how I work ?
<MGR> Now
you're getting how I work ?L184[06:36:21] <20kdc> so,
would you say that you are going to dissolve into *all* of the
ground?
<20kdc> so,
would you say that you are going to dissolve into *all* of the
ground?L185[06:36:34] <Izaya> You're a
mostly-erradicated very deadly disease that sits in the ground
until it rains?
L186[06:37:09] <g> No, no, he's from
castle anthrax
L187[06:37:26] <MGR> Izaya,
yes, obviously
<MGR> Izaya,
yes, obviouslyL188[06:37:32] <20kdc> MGR:
Doesn't that sound a little *world-dominatey*?
<20kdc> MGR:
Doesn't that sound a little *world-dominatey*?L189[06:37:34] <MGR> @20kdc
yes, all of it
<MGR> @20kdc
yes, all of itL190[06:37:45] <MGR>
Idk
<MGR>
IdkL191[06:37:46] <20kdc>
Doesn't that sound *especially world-dominatey*?
<20kdc>
Doesn't that sound *especially world-dominatey*?L192[06:37:54] <MGR> I
don't think anthrax is for world domination
<MGR> I
don't think anthrax is for world dominationL193[06:38:04] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0A5vzGMQr8
L194[06:38:05] <MichiBot> Sir Galahad
in Castle Anthrax - Monty Python and the Holy Grail | length:
4m 2s | Likes: 976 Dislikes:
24 Views: 125,892 | by
Monty Python | Published On 20/4/2015
L195[06:40:22] <Skye> My PC is fine.
L196[06:40:44] <MGR> Oh, my
PC is totally fine, it's just that it isn't l33t anymore
<MGR> Oh, my
PC is totally fine, it's just that it isn't l33t anymoreL197[06:40:59] <MGR>
Although, I suppose a 6850K was never really "l33t", but
whatever
<MGR>
Although, I suppose a 6850K was never really "l33t", but
whateverL198[06:41:13] <Skye> It's like... 4 years
old. It can run some games better than newer computers
L199[06:41:42] <Izaya> I should get myself
an FPGA board
L200[06:43:09] <Izaya> Put that SuperH
core onto it until we get a sufficiently stable RISC-V
implementation
L201[06:44:10] <Skye> I should finish a
68k computer
L202[06:44:31] <Izaya> I should just get
myself one of those Archimedes models that could run UNIX
L203[06:45:24] <MGR> Skye,
well if you have a high-tier older computer, and compare it against
a low-tier newer computer, the older one wins
<MGR> Skye,
well if you have a high-tier older computer, and compare it against
a low-tier newer computer, the older one winsL204[06:45:33] <Izaya> the chips have big
enough transistors to be able to figure out what it's actually
doing
L205[06:45:43] <AshIndigo> %inv add a big
transistor
L206[06:45:45] *
MichiBot summons 'a big transistor' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L207[06:45:50] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TtA0chzLac
._.
L208[06:45:50] <MichiBot> Factorio -
Daft Punk - Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger - Programmable
speakers | length: 3m 40s | Likes: 829 Dislikes: 11
Views: 22,475 | by Tritex989 | Published On
22/5/2017
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L212[06:47:02] <Skye> It's a computer
where bits are from 2009
L213[06:47:17] <Izaya> Mine has parts from
pre-2000
L214[06:47:34] <Izaya> In the quest for
more DVD drives I have an IDE PCI card from 1997
L215[06:47:53] <MGR> Why do
you need more than 2 DVD drives?
<MGR> Why do
you need more than 2 DVD drives?L216[06:48:19] <AshIndigo> because why
not?
L217[06:48:43] <Izaya> So I can burn more
than 2 DVDs at once
L218[06:48:52] <MGR>
Because they take up space on the front panel you could use for
ventilation?
<MGR>
Because they take up space on the front panel you could use for
ventilation?L219[06:48:59] <MGR> How
often do you burn DVDs??
<MGR> How
often do you burn DVDs??L220[06:49:01] *
AshIndigo should see if he still has any blank cds
L221[06:49:01] <Izaya> That isn't an issue
in my case.
L222[06:49:19] <Izaya> Motherboard and GPU
are below the PSU and storage
L223[06:49:45] <Izaya> Also has 6 slots
for DVDs, 8 for HDDs and two external 3.5" slots
L224[06:50:02] <Izaya> 'course most of the
'case' part has been removed resulting in a frame rather than a
case
L225[06:50:07] <MGR> Yes,
but how often do you burn DVDs?
<MGR> Yes,
but how often do you burn DVDs?L226[06:50:12] *
AshIndigo is curious as to what izaya is burning onto
dvds
L227[06:50:28] <Izaya> and it has so many
holes drilled into it it hardly looks like it originally did
L228[06:50:47] <Izaya> MGR, you know how
I'm into muh freedoms?
L229[06:51:27] <MGR>
Sure
<MGR>
SureL230[06:51:50] <Izaya> Every now and them
someone will ask me to convince a room of people to give Freedom a
go
L231[06:51:55] <Izaya> so I'll take stuff
they can try out
L232[06:52:14] <MGR>
What?
<MGR>
What?L233[06:52:23] <Izaya> and this is usually
at short notice so I have a script that burns DVDs in all 5 drives
to get the most done in a given time
L234[06:53:09] <MGR>
???
<MGR>
???L235[06:53:15] <Izaya> ???
L236[06:54:52] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnMxRFO1iw
L237[06:54:52] <MGR> I
don't understand the first and second statement
<MGR> I
don't understand the first and second statementL238[06:54:53] <MichiBot> Bad Apple -
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L239[06:55:24] <Izaya> MGR, I'm the only
tech within a few hundred KM that actually does Linux stuff
L240[06:55:33] <MGR>
Ok
<MGR>
OkL241[06:55:39] <Izaya> on occasion people
want me to talk about it
L242[06:55:43] <Izaya> so I take stuff
people can try out
L243[06:55:49] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL244[06:56:55] <MGR>
https://videocardz.com/70046/colorful-igame-gtx-1080-ti-customization-and-kudan-pictured
<MGR>
https://videocardz.com/70046/colorful-igame-gtx-1080-ti-customization-and-kudan-picturedL245[06:57:11] <MGR> That
first graphics card does not look very good to me
<MGR> That
first graphics card does not look very good to meL246[06:58:12] <Izaya> Yeah... not so
nice.
L247[06:58:21] <Izaya> 9800GT had a really
nice design
L248[06:58:25] <Izaya> I think it was the
9800GT, anyway
L249[06:58:49] <Izaya> Not the
9800GT(X)
L250[06:59:22] <Izaya> don't remember the
model but I have one here
L251[06:59:55] <Izaya> Single slot, looked
nice, worked well...
L252[07:00:18] <Izaya> (The GTX690 looks
nice also but I sorta dislike the thing over the heatsinks, they
seem unneccesary)
L253[07:01:01] <Izaya> One big fan and
heatsink for each GPU would be much better
L254[07:01:03] <MGR> With
most computer parts, I believe that there should be two design
types, one super flashy one, and one that looks sleeker and more
restrained
<MGR> With
most computer parts, I believe that there should be two design
types, one super flashy one, and one that looks sleeker and more
restrainedL255[07:01:36] <MGR> One
would be like this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/media/image/thumbnail/MB68DAS_143178_800x800.jpg
<MGR> One
would be like this: https://www.overclockers.co.uk/media/image/thumbnail/MB68DAS_143178_800x800.jpgL256[07:01:58] <Izaya> oh right I have a
3dfx Banshee 16M
L257[07:02:07] <MGR> And
the other would look more like this: http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/X370%20Taichi(L3).png
<MGR> And
the other would look more like this: http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/X370%20Taichi(L3).pngL258[07:02:33] <MGR> Or
this: https://asset.msi.com/global/picture/image/feature/mb/RWD_Img/X99/lookandfeel_godlikeCarbon.png
<MGR> Or
this: https://asset.msi.com/global/picture/image/feature/mb/RWD_Img/X99/lookandfeel_godlikeCarbon.pngL259[07:03:07] <MGR> I'm
more slanted towards the first type, but the more restrained look
also looks good to me, and I know a lot of people who prefer
it
<MGR> I'm
more slanted towards the first type, but the more restrained look
also looks good to me, and I know a lot of people who prefer
itL260[07:03:59] <Izaya> http://file.hkepc.net/2007121219181191487530658.jpg
L261[07:04:47] <Izaya> Also, all of those
boards look unneccesarily flashy
L262[07:05:33] <MGR> Even
the bottom one?
<MGR> Even
the bottom one?L263[07:05:39] <MGR> That's
almost entirely one color
<MGR> That's
almost entirely one colorL264[07:06:03] <Izaya> Do you not see the
giant thing saying 'godlike' on it?
L265[07:06:39] <g> I don't get why you
give a shit
L266[07:06:46] *
AshIndigo just likes plain old green motherboards
L267[07:06:48] <g> If you don't want
flashy boards then you probably have a case that doesn't make them
visible
L268[07:06:49] <g> :P
L269[07:06:57] <Izaya> My case has no
sides
L270[07:07:10] <g> spherical case
wew
L271[07:07:14] <Izaya> kek
L272[07:07:24] <Izaya> that's how I
L273[07:07:27] *
Izaya puts on sunglasses
L274[07:07:29] <Izaya> roll
L275[07:07:34] <g> do you have any
fans?
L276[07:07:40] <Izaya> something something
special hell
L277[07:07:40] <g> I know a guy that just
mounted his gear to metal poles
L278[07:07:42] <MGR> I'm
not a fan of your case
<MGR> I'm
not a fan of your caseL279[07:07:45] <g> and didn't use any
fans
L280[07:07:49] <Corded> * <MGR>
laughs
L281[07:08:10] <Izaya> g: I have a bunch
of fans attached to the front part to pull air in
L282[07:08:12] <MGR> Also,
just paint over the godlike if you don't like it or whatever
<MGR> Also,
just paint over the godlike if you don't like it or whateverL283[07:08:25] <Izaya> had to drill a
bunch of holes in the front to get it working well
L284[07:08:34] *
Inari rubs cat-paw-scent onto AshIndigo forehead
L285[07:12:13] *
AshIndigo wonders if this is a good thing or a bad
thing
L286[07:12:46] <MGR>
Probably neither?
<MGR>
Probably neither?L287[07:14:59] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/wkomll.jpg old picture but just
imagine more DVD drives
L288[07:15:24] <MGR> And a
second 690?
<MGR> And a
second 690?L289[07:15:33] <Izaya> yeah
L290[07:15:37] <Izaya> can't run 2 in
summer
L291[07:17:20] <Izaya> https://a.pomf.cat/wclors.jpg older but from last
winter
L292[07:18:08] <Izaya> note: the lack of a
case side is normal, it never has them on
L293[07:18:49] <MGR> What
case is that?
<MGR> What
case is that?L294[07:18:56] <MGR> I
don't recognize the design
<MGR> I
don't recognize the designL295[07:19:07] <Izaya> I dunno.
L296[07:19:13] <Izaya> Generic whitebox
server case from the 90s
L297[07:19:20] <Izaya> Minus all the beige
plastic and side panels.
L298[07:19:28] <MGR>
Ah
<MGR>
AhL299[07:19:59] <MGR> I have
a Corsair Storm Trooper case, which has been a little
underwhelming
<MGR> I have
a Corsair Storm Trooper case, which has been a little
underwhelmingL300[07:20:11] <Izaya> Can't hit anything
with it?
L301[07:20:27] <MGR> I
bought it because of the built in external 2.5" HDD bay, but
the interior isn't the best
<MGR> I
bought it because of the built in external 2.5" HDD bay, but
the interior isn't the bestL302[07:20:48] <MGR> Also,
my hit rate in Star Wars Battlefront has been 0% ?
<MGR> Also,
my hit rate in Star Wars Battlefront has been 0% ?L303[07:20:52] <XDjackieXD> lol
L304[07:20:55] <Izaya> huh
L305[07:21:05] <Izaya> Windows has only
been up for 4 days and it's already bogging down horridly
L306[07:21:14] <Izaya> Normally it lasts
at least a week before it does this x_x
L307[07:21:19] <XDjackieXD> what do you
expect? it's still a ms product...
L308[07:21:29] <MGR> I
haven't had any of those issues :/
<MGR> I
haven't had any of those issues :/L309[07:21:35] <g> desktop windows isn't
really designed to never be rebooted
L310[07:21:42] <Mimiru> my uptime is 3
weeks atm.. windows is running fine
L311[07:22:00] <Izaya> I really need to
try like, Server 2008 R2 next time I install on here
L312[07:22:03] <g> we leave the office PC
up all week and shut it down on friday
L313[07:22:04] <Izaya> See if that fits
how I use it better
L314[07:22:07] <XDjackieXD> g: even
windows server needs its regular reboot :P
L315[07:22:20] <Izaya> Apparently it can
mount nfs shares which would be nice
L316[07:22:26] <MGR> I've
left my PC on for weeks, and it's been fine
<MGR> I've
left my PC on for weeks, and it's been fineL317[07:23:42] <XDjackieXD> https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RvGGzM speaking
about PCs: anything I should change with this? (plan is to get a
small home file & backup server that consumes <20W
idle)
L318[07:23:54] *
Izaya squints
L319[07:24:00] <Izaya> What is this
'mini.iso' file?
L320[07:24:08] <XDjackieXD> o.O
L321[07:24:09] <Izaya> Does that mean
anything to anyone?
L322[07:24:29] <MGR> Do you
have a case for that?
<MGR> Do you
have a case for that?L323[07:24:49] <Izaya> XDjackieXD: 10Gbit
ethernet?
L324[07:24:52] <XDjackieXD> yes I will use
the case I got for my main pc currently and will get a bequiet
silent base for my pc
L325[07:25:16] <MGR> What
about storage?
<MGR> What
about storage?L326[07:25:31] <XDjackieXD> Izaya: yes I
got two of these mellanox cards for 25€ each for the YoloColo
server at chaos congress and I might as well use it at home too
:P
L327[07:25:52] <Izaya> Also, what the hell
is going on with this? I thought Haswells were 4xxx chips and
that's a 1151 board
L328[07:25:54] <XDjackieXD> storage: it
will replace my current backup nas (6x 1TB HDD) and get a 100gb ssd
for system and cache
L329[07:26:09] <Izaya> Haswells were
1150
L330[07:26:11] <MGR> Izaya,
Pentiums and Celerons have weird naming
<MGR> Izaya,
Pentiums and Celerons have weird namingL331[07:26:13] <XDjackieXD> the pentium
series got other numbers
L332[07:26:17] <Izaya> oh
L333[07:26:18] <XDjackieXD> it's a kaby
lake chip
L334[07:26:19] <MGR> It's a
Kaby Lake (7th gen)
<MGR> It's a
Kaby Lake (7th gen)L335[07:26:21] <Izaya> o.O
L336[07:26:30] <XDjackieXD> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
intel
L337[07:26:36] <Izaya> A friend of mine
has a G3258 and that's whatever the one before Haswell was
called
L338[07:26:49] <MGR> Ivy
Lake?
<MGR> Ivy
Lake?L339[07:26:52] <MGR> 3rd
Gen
<MGR> 3rd
GenL340[07:26:57] <Izaya> Ivy Bridge
maybe
L341[07:27:03] <XDjackieXD> lol. the
g3900t is a skylake chip iirc
L342[07:27:05] <MGR>
XDjackieXD, it looks like you have all the parts you need
<MGR>
XDjackieXD, it looks like you have all the parts you needL343[07:27:19] <MGR> Izaya,
it's Ivy Bridge, not Ivy Lake
<MGR> Izaya,
it's Ivy Bridge, not Ivy LakeL344[07:27:22] <Izaya> He was running it
at like 4Ghz
L345[07:27:47] <Izaya> Wonderful for
single-core stuff but sorta terrible for multi-core
L346[07:27:49] <MGR> G3258
is Haswell though
<MGR> G3258
is Haswell thoughL347[07:28:00] <Izaya> o.O
L348[07:28:04] <Izaya> I give up
L349[07:28:06] <Izaya> Intel go home
L350[07:28:09] <Izaya> you're drunk
L351[07:28:11] <Izaya> I'm drunk
L352[07:28:17] <MGR> We're
all drunk
<MGR> We're
all drunkL353[07:28:17] <Izaya> and the party is
over
L354[07:28:23] <Cruor> Izaya: who is most
drunk?
L355[07:28:43] <Izaya> Cruor:
Microsoft
L356[07:28:48] <XDjackieXD> yes xD
L357[07:28:51] <Izaya> ballmer peak and
such
L358[07:29:04] <MGR> Like I
said, Pentiums and Celerons follow a different naming scheme
<MGR> Like I
said, Pentiums and Celerons follow a different naming schemeL359[07:29:14] <MGR> Side
bonus, Kaby Lake Pentiums are now i3's pretty much
<MGR> Side
bonus, Kaby Lake Pentiums are now i3's pretty muchL360[07:29:34] <XDjackieXD> has anyone of
you used sharepoint before? I got access to a sharepoint instance
yesterday and it's just the worst thing I've ever used :>
L361[07:29:36] <Izaya> Aren't there like
M-series Core chips for mobile stuff now?
L362[07:29:48] <MGR> Izaya,
yes Core-Y
<MGR> Izaya,
yes Core-YL363[07:29:48] <Izaya> Never had the
misfortune to use SharePoint
L364[07:29:55] <MGR> I've
used it a little bit for work
<MGR> I've
used it a little bit for workL365[07:30:07] <Izaya> One of my teachers
tried to get me to use the Office 365 OneNote thing
L366[07:30:15] <Izaya> Their cert is
invalid.
L367[07:30:15] <g> Onenote is okay
L368[07:30:34] <XDjackieXD> I'd love to
see a desktop/server mainboard with a i5-y series chip. 4W TDP with
LOTS of performance is pretty damn nice
L369[07:30:42] <g> eh? no it's not
L370[07:30:53] <Izaya> My security
settings on FF are a bit higher than usual but it complains
L371[07:31:05] <Izaya> I'll try again
tomorrow but I was getting something about invalid cert
L372[07:31:16] <Izaya> Figured it was a
good excuse not to use it
L373[07:31:32] <g> Microsoft is their own
CA, so it'd be pretty surprising if there was an invalid cert
L374[07:31:41] <g> but yeah it seems fine
here
L375[07:31:46] <Izaya> Microsoft also have
a history of incompetence
L376[07:31:54] <g> that depends who you
ask
L377[07:32:04] <Izaya> That said, they
never cease to surprise me...
L378[07:32:31] <Izaya> Who knew you could
run a company by being user-hostile?
L379[07:32:33] <Izaya> Wait...
L380[07:32:38] <g> lol, user-hostile
L381[07:32:47] <g> well, hey, look at
sopnge
L382[07:32:47] *
Izaya looks at Apple and Google and Amazon and Samsung
L383[07:32:50] <g> sponge*
L384[07:32:53] <MGR>
XDjackieXD, Y series is BGA only right now
<MGR>
XDjackieXD, Y series is BGA only right nowL385[07:32:58] <Izaya> ... Right.
L386[07:33:09] <Izaya> g: wasn't that a
Minecraft server?
L387[07:33:17] <XDjackieXD> I know. the
xeon-d and some celerons like the j1900 is too
L388[07:33:19] <g> Sponge is a plugin api
built on top of both forge and vanilla
L389[07:33:30] <g> the code is so
needlessly complicated, I dunno how it hasn't collapsed on
itself
L390[07:33:38] <LuMistry> Greetings
L391[07:33:46] *
LuMistry is pleased about recent events
L392[07:34:04] *
Izaya is also pleased about recent events but they're probably not
the same ones
L393[07:34:34] <LuMistry> Are your recent
events the launch of GV100 and Skylake-X?
L394[07:34:55] <Izaya> Definitely
different recent events.
L395[07:35:08] *
XDjackieXD is patently waiting for AMD Vega
L396[07:35:10] <Izaya> Can't really get
excited about the launch of more generic x86 processors
L397[07:35:23] <LuMistry> XDjackieXD, I'm
looking forward to that too
L398[07:35:27] <LuMistry> Izaya, why
not?
L399[07:35:33] <LuMistry> cancel that
question
L400[07:35:34] <Izaya> I assume GV100 is
GPUs though
L401[07:35:49] <LuMistry> GV100 is the
best AI GPU I've seen so far
L402[07:36:05] <Izaya> GPUs are kinda
cool, even if the software around them sorta sucks half the
time
L403[07:36:11] <Izaya> NVIDIA conflicts
me.
L404[07:36:16] <Izaya> Conflicts me?
L405[07:36:18] *
Izaya shrugs
L406[07:36:29] <LuMistry> GPUs are the
best
L407[07:36:29] <Izaya> They have the best
closed-source drivers but the open-source drivers are
mediocre
L408[07:36:42] *
LuMistry waves away open-source
L409[07:36:45] <g> the open-source drivers
are a disaster in some ways
L410[07:36:51] *
Izaya waves away closed-source
L411[07:36:59] <Izaya> Begone, foul
beast
L412[07:37:03] <LuMistry> Nah
L413[07:37:06] <g> nothing integrates
properly on linux anyway
L414[07:37:14] <g> wrt GPUs
L415[07:37:18] <XDjackieXD> well the new
AMDGPU drivers are pretty amazing
L416[07:37:21] <Izaya> Linux is sort of a
clusterfuck in most areas
L417[07:37:22] <LuMistry> I like
closed-source's style better
L418[07:37:24] <Izaya> AMDGPU looks
okay.
L419[07:37:38] <Izaya> Too bad it probably
won't be merged into the kernel.
L420[07:37:53] <Izaya> IIRC Linus was not
happy with it.
L421[07:38:06] <g> there's a feature of
mobile nvidia GPUs where it'll hand off to the internal graphics
card to save power
L422[07:38:07] <XDjackieXD> works way
better than what we had before so whatever :P
L423[07:38:09] <Izaya> LuMistry: Of course
you do.
L424[07:38:13] <g> some laptops even have
a physical switch to toggle that
L425[07:38:27] <LuMistry> Why "of
course"?
L426[07:38:29] <g> but if you're on linux
you have to have an entire set of tools for running stuff directly
on the gpu
L427[07:38:30] <XDjackieXD> g: hybrid
graphics is the worst thing that ever happened to GPUs.
L428[07:38:36] <Izaya> Just a
theory.
L429[07:38:41] <XDjackieXD> it's a
clusterfuck on linux and works even worse on windows
L430[07:38:58] <g> Actually that always
worked pretty well for me on windows
L431[07:39:11] <g> since you can decide
where you want things to happen manually if you want
L432[07:39:43] <g> just flick this switch
or toggle this option.. or right-click and "run with x
gpu"
L433[07:40:06] <Izaya> tbh I
L434[07:40:09] <Izaya> gah
L435[07:40:10] <XDjackieXD> g: on my
laptop the only driver that works is the *relly* old one dell
provides. anything else will just fail. on linux, I can just prefix
an ENV variable to tell MESA which GPU to use
L436[07:40:26] <Izaya> tbh I'm inclined to
just get laptops with integrated graphics
L437[07:40:30] <Izaya> helps with battery
life too
L438[07:40:36] <XDjackieXD> ^
L439[07:40:40] <g> all my machines have
been Dell machines and they all worked great with official
drivers
L440[07:40:42] <Izaya> goddamn upgrading
to HD 4000 will be nice though
L441[07:41:06] <g> even the overheat-prone
xps m1530
L442[07:41:13] <XDjackieXD> or get one
with thunderbolt3 or expresscard if you want an external GPU. I
successfully connected my gtx970 to my laptop with ~10€ of
parts
L443[07:41:15] <Izaya> HD 3000 is okay but
we can do better
L444[07:41:30] <Izaya> ExpressCard GPUs
sound fun
L445[07:41:47] <XDjackieXD> my laptop (the
small one I currently use; a fujitsu t730) got a intel GMA GPU.
that thing is horrible.
L446[07:42:02] <Izaya> GMA died,
fortunately
L447[07:42:05] <Izaya> at least as far as
I know
L448[07:42:15] <XDjackieXD> it was
superseeded by intel hd graphics
L449[07:42:32] <g> the worst thing about
working in an office when literally nobody else comes in is you
can't leave the desk :v
L450[07:42:33] <Izaya> good
L451[07:42:45] <Izaya> Intel HD is okay
enough
L452[07:43:50] <Izaya> Anyway
L453[07:43:54] <Izaya> I should have a
shower.
L454[07:56:20] *
AshIndigo gives Izaya a bucket of water and some soap
L455[07:56:49] *
Izaya places the soap on AshIndigo's head and dumps the water on
him
L456[07:57:29] *
AshIndigo catches the soap
L457[08:04:47] ⇦
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timeout: 201 seconds)
L458[08:13:37] *
Forecaster soaps the catch
L459[08:33:10] *
BloodyRain2k Forecasts the bucket
L460[08:34:04] <LuMistry> Too many
puns
L461[08:41:05] <MajGenRelativity> Gee
whillikers computer, now you tell me that intel released the i9,
after I read it 2 hours ago
L462[08:41:37] <AshIndigo> %inv add a 36
core cpu
L463[08:41:38] *
MichiBot summons 'a 36 core cpu' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L464[08:41:55] <MajGenRelativity> Is there
a 36 core CPU?
L465[08:42:07] <MajGenRelativity> Epyc
tops out at 32, and I don't recall a Xeon with that many
cores
L466[08:42:16] <MajGenRelativity> Only 28
I think
L467[08:43:19]
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L468[08:43:33] <MajGenRelativity>
Actually, only 24
L469[08:44:12] <AshIndigo> ~markov
MajGenRelativity
L470[08:44:12] <ocdoc> Lizzy, seriously in
lua or just models of an SSD and network chat thing it is a weird
people too intense right now
L471[08:45:03] <Izaya> there are 96 thread
CPUs
L472[08:45:08] <Izaya> only 8 cores
though
L473[08:45:31] <Izaya> Lots of pipelining
I assume
L474[08:45:40] <MGR>
Yeah
<MGR>
YeahL475[08:46:09] <MGR> What
CPU is that?
<MGR> What
CPU is that?L476[08:46:23] <Izaya> wait that one was
12 cores, 96 threads
L477[08:46:39] <Izaya> high-end POWER8
CPUs have 12 cores/96 threads
L478[08:46:50] <Izaya> low end is
8C/64T
L479[08:47:00] <Izaya> and by low-end I
mean only several grand each
L480[08:47:00] <MGR> Ah ok,
8-way SMT
<MGR> Ah ok,
8-way SMTL481[08:47:10] <MGR> Xeon
Phi has 72 cores with 288 threads
<MGR> Xeon
Phi has 72 cores with 288 threadsL482[08:47:25] <MGR> But
that's more of 72 Atoms with big-ass FPUs strapped on
<MGR> But
that's more of 72 Atoms with big-ass FPUs strapped onL483[08:47:31] <Izaya> Those are
accelerator cards though, right?
L484[08:47:31] <AshIndigo> D:my laptop is
going to die
L485[08:47:46] <Izaya> AshIndigo: quick,
rush it to a pokemon center
L486[08:48:05] <MGR> Izaya,
the latest ones can be a host processor
<MGR> Izaya,
the latest ones can be a host processorL487[08:48:18] <Izaya> Oh. Huh.
Shiny.
L488[08:48:29] <Izaya> Still x86 but
that's a lot of power
L489[08:48:49] <MGR>
https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Broadwell-EP-LGA-2647-Broadwell-DE-package-size-comparison-800x450.jpg
<MGR>
https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Broadwell-EP-LGA-2647-Broadwell-DE-package-size-comparison-800x450.jpgL490[08:49:04] <MGR>
LGA3647, with lots and lots of oh-so-bendy socket pins
<MGR>
LGA3647, with lots and lots of oh-so-bendy socket pinsL491[08:49:12] <AshIndigo> it wont go into
the pokeball!
L492[08:49:29] <AmandaC> AshIndigo: that's
because it knows they're quantum murder machines.
L493[08:50:50] *
AshIndigo piants an ultra ball to look like a master
ball
L494[08:50:55] <MGR> Izaya,
yep, it can do a lot of vector calculations very fast
<MGR> Izaya,
yep, it can do a lot of vector calculations very fastL495[08:51:08] <MGR> AVX512
and whatnot
<MGR> AVX512
and whatnotL496[08:54:53] <Izaya> RIP phone
uptime
L497[08:55:05] <Izaya> died after
like
L498[08:55:08] <Izaya> 9999999 years
L499[08:55:26] <Izaya> MGR, that looks
like those Opterons
L500[08:55:37] <Izaya> they were like
double the size of a normal desktop chip and sorta
rectangular
L501[08:56:24] <MGR> I
haven't seen an Opteron before
<MGR> I
haven't seen an Opteron beforeL502[08:56:46] <Izaya> https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/src/1495999843665.png
kek
L503[08:57:00] <MGR>
lol
<MGR>
lolL504[08:57:26] <MGR> Izaya,
I found what you're talking about
<MGR> Izaya,
I found what you're talking aboutL505[08:57:33] <MGR> You
are right about the resemblance
<MGR> You
are right about the resemblanceL506[08:58:09] <Izaya> When am I not
right? :D
L507[08:58:26] <MGR> I
could name times, but it's not worth it
<MGR> I
could name times, but it's not worth itL508[08:58:37] <Izaya> I can think of
one
L509[08:58:44] <Izaya> when I said GERT
was good
L510[08:58:46] <Forecaster> it's
3:58!
L511[08:58:49] <Izaya> ... wait, that
never happened
L512[08:58:54] *
Izaya shrugs
L513[08:59:04] <Izaya> (sorry, that was
low)
L514[08:59:15] <MGR>
Cool
<MGR>
CoolL515[08:59:26] *
Gavle was summoned
L516[08:59:32] <Izaya> ._.
L517[08:59:35] *
Gavle looks and goes away again
L518[08:59:37] *
Izaya banishes Gavle
L519[09:00:12] <AshIndigo> :|
L520[09:01:51] <Gavle> Now now, you don't
have to be rude Izaya
L521[09:02:33] <Izaya> "Don't summon
what you can't put down"
L522[09:02:49] <Gavle> Hah
L523[09:02:53] <Gavle> Try me
L524[09:03:04] *
Izaya shrugs
L525[09:03:17] <Gavle> Good
L526[09:03:20] <Izaya> Extradimensional
... things .. are things too
L527[09:03:32] <Syrren> relevant http://i.imgur.com/gOPS2.png
L528[09:04:43] <g> old but gold
L529[09:04:46] <XDjackieXD> ^^
L530[09:05:13] <Syrren> it's still around
but most browsers can't represent it's full glory so I linked the
render instead
L531[09:10:58] <AshIndigo> o.o
L532[09:11:19] <AshIndigo> That was an _
interesting_ answer
L533[09:17:17] <S3> rofl
L534[09:17:42] <S3> Syrren: hilarious, but
also false. regex just is the moronic tool for it..
L535[09:19:36] <g> What todl you it was
false?
L536[09:19:38] <g> told*
L537[09:19:41] <g> the part about
cthulhu?
L538[09:19:45] <S3> no
L539[09:19:51] <g> :P
L540[09:20:46] <S3> the whole "regex
is incapable of parsing html" thing. That's false, but it's
really stupid to do it. If you really want to reinvent the xml
parsing wheel use regex to parse html, you gotta do it right. You
gotta build a tokenizer using your regex. Nobody wants to do
that
L541[09:21:17] <Gavle> Hmm, my ranking is
continuing to slide, I guess I'll have to become more active
L542[09:21:27] <S3> Gavle: HEY!
L543[09:22:20] <Gavle> How is it going
S3?
L544[09:22:24] <S3> meh
L545[09:22:34] <Gavle> Oh? That's too
bad
L546[09:22:47] <S3> Been porting the actor
model to Lua for MC
L547[09:22:50] <S3> OC*
L548[09:23:06] <Gavle> What's that?
L549[09:23:49] <S3> in particular, forming
distributed computation networks. Nothing ocranet related or
anything. just the idea of running scripts on a bunch of OC
computers to do things reactively
L550[09:24:26] <Gavle> That's
interesting
L551[09:24:46] <Gavle> MGR was thinking
about embedding that into an OS directly
L552[09:24:55] <Gavle> Maybe that could be
another collab XD
L553[09:25:02] <S3> well if all goes well,
I could use it for the core of S3IX
L554[09:25:05] <MGR>
Indeed
<MGR>
IndeedL555[09:25:24] <S3> annowing you to run
one OSinstance accross 20 OC computers
L556[09:25:31] <Gavle> How is S3IX going?
I've only seen 1 or 2 commits on our repo, I wasn't sure if it was
still active
L557[09:26:05] <S3> that repo isn't
active. I've been keeping it stocked away with new ideas
L558[09:26:12] <S3> I still want an
exokernel
L559[09:26:23] <S3> and i think the actor
model is perfect
L560[09:26:37] <Gavle> So, you haven't
made any code progress, or you just haven't updated the repo?
L561[09:26:59] <S3> haven't updated the
repo. I'm actually building it on top another OC OS atm
L562[09:27:06] <Gavle> Which OS?
L563[09:28:15] <S3> A really neat tiny
kernel called MultICE
L564[09:28:50] <Gavle> Ah yes, I've heard
of that
L565[09:28:55] <S3> basically gives me the
minimal environment functions I need so I don't have to worry about
making gpu drivers, etc
L566[09:29:03] <Gavle> You should update
the repo so I can page through the OS a little bit in my spare
time
L567[09:29:04] <S3> and don't have to
worry about the overhead of OpenOS
L568[09:29:24] <S3> maybe sometime. I want
to get my actor thing working
L569[09:29:27] <S3> it's EPIC
L570[09:29:37] <Gavle> And, can you
refresh me on the exokernal idea? All I can remember is that
everything was a stream
L571[09:29:43] <Gavle> AMD Epyc? :P
L572[09:30:36] <S3> well an exokernel is
just a kernel that provides as minimal as possible and provices
full access to hardware, given the processes / services have
permission to access them
L573[09:30:47] <Izaya> everything is a
stream anyway
L574[09:30:49] <S3> so the idea of an
exokernel is to remove any abstractions
L575[09:30:59] <Gavle> Ok, that makes
sense
L576[09:31:14] <S3> right. if a process
wants to use abstractions, that's okay too
L577[09:31:28] <Syrren> S3: so... in other
words, exokernel == microkernel?
L578[09:31:30] <S3> but an exokernel
doesn't naturally abstract stuff.
L579[09:31:47] <Gavle> Programs from
OpenOS would not work natively, correct?
L580[09:31:47] <Izaya> microkernel just
runs abstractions as processes
L581[09:31:59] <Izaya> well, you can see
it that way if you want to
L582[09:32:22] <S3> well a huge difference
between the microkernel and the exokernel is that the software has
full access to the underlying hardware
L583[09:32:34] <S3> such as io memory,
etc
L584[09:32:35] <S3> in userspace
L585[09:32:41] <Gavle> I can see that
being a bonus
L586[09:32:56] <S3> this is actually a
good thing with OC
L587[09:33:17] <Gavle> Yes, because when
your CPU cycles are limited, getting the most out of them is
crucial
L588[09:33:22] <S3> ; OpenOs doesn't
provide a whole lot of abstraction, you still have access to the
underlying API of the machine.
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L590[09:34:30] <S3> yes. exokernels allow
you to say, "I want to use these libraries or talk to these
drivers", or say "Nope, I want to access the hard disk
data blocks directly because I can do it better". Now, an
exokernel is configured by the user as to how your security is set
up
L591[09:34:42] *
Katie blargs
L592[09:34:47] <S3> so like if you want
you can load up a bunch of drivers and prevent userspace from
accessing resources they shouldnt
L593[09:35:08] <S3> but the idea is that
the "opportunity" is there.
L594[09:35:17] <Gavle> Now, when you say
"drivers", what do you mean?
L595[09:35:25] <Syrren> still not seeing
the difference, but maybe the microkernel I hacked on was actually
an exokernel, so... \o/
L596[09:35:31] <S3> it's probably the most
malleable OS type you can have.
L597[09:35:53] <Gavle> Seems like
L598[09:36:13] <S3> Gavle: drivers in an
exokernel can either be userspace processes, or very simular to
microkernels, a service. However an exokernel does not usually make
any differentiation between a service and a userspace
process.
L599[09:36:52] <Gavle> Can you expound on
that a little more for me please?
L600[09:37:09] <S3> in an exokernel, there
is no such thing as kernelspace, besides the core which is so small
and lacks any sort of normal kernel functionality. My x86 exokernel
doesn't even have a scheduler.
L601[09:37:36] <S3> the scheduler in my
OS, Xlii is actually in userspace but doesn't even exist
(wat)
L602[09:37:49] <Gavle> So, what's
kernelspace?
L603[09:38:00] <Gavle> That's part of the
OS itself, right?
L604[09:38:12] <S3> typically in a
microkernel or a monolithic kernel, you make syscalls to jump into
kernelspace code
L605[09:38:28] <Gavle> What?
L606[09:38:41] <S3> in a microkernel this
is really dependent on its design, but in a monolithic kernel lets
say you called open on the VFS
L607[09:38:49] <S3> you'd jump into the
kernel itself to make that call
L608[09:39:21] <S3> using one of various
methods, interrupts, far jumps, normal branching using an IOMMU,
etc
L609[09:39:27] <Gavle> io.open constitutes
a call to the kernel?
L610[09:39:37] <Gavle> In this
example
L611[09:39:46] <S3> in OC we live in a bit
of a different scenario
L612[09:40:12] <S3> OpenOS doesn't really
have a 'kernel'
L613[09:40:31] <Gavle> I'm confused
now
L614[09:40:36] <Gavle> Well, more
confused
L615[09:40:39] <S3> at least not in the
traditional sense
L616[09:41:03] <S3> so then
L617[09:41:09] <S3> what are you confused
about?
L618[09:41:24] <S3> Katie: you really
should clean that up
L619[09:41:24] <Gavle> How can OpenOS not
have a kernel?
L620[09:41:29] <S3> there's puke all over
the floor..
L621[09:41:32] <Gavle> I thought that was
the OS itself
L622[09:43:03] <S3> The majority of OpenOS
is APIs that abstract the hardware in useful ways
L623[09:43:49] <S3> this API doesn't have
to speak to any sort of 'monarchy' process or scheduler or anything
to perform operations
L624[09:44:13] <S3> these APIs*
L625[09:44:19] <Gavle> But there has to be
a scheduler somewhere
L626[09:44:19] <AmandaC> Gavle: you're
confused because S3 changed from talking about real computer OSes
to OC Computer OSes
L627[09:44:22] <Gavle> In Javaland?
L628[09:44:37] <Gavle> AmandaC, partly,
but I started out a bit confused
L629[09:44:45] <Gavle> I don't work on
OS'
L630[09:45:10] <S3> Gavle: this is why I
usually prefer to use real world OS design for examples :D
L631[09:45:26] <S3> because they're
usually a bit more referencable
L632[09:45:29] <Gavle> Ok
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L634[09:45:55] <Katie> S3 no
L635[09:46:22] <S3> although no, a
scheduler isn't exactly needed. you do need to handle process
magenement, though with Xlii I discovered a way to create process
management without a scheduler.
L636[09:47:00] <Leothehero2110> Can I
interrupt for a moment?
L637[09:47:25] <MGR>
Leothehero2110, you were interested in combining TACEATS and GERT,
correct?
<MGR>
Leothehero2110, you were interested in combining TACEATS and GERT,
correct?L638[09:48:30] <Katie> I'm interested in
combining Tacos and my mouth.
L639[09:48:48] <Gavle> Mimiru, a
reasonable goal
L640[09:49:23] <Leothehero2110> Wel, yes I
was, but right now I have something else on my mind
L641[09:49:39] <MGR> Sure,
we can talk afterwards when you're done
<MGR> Sure,
we can talk afterwards when you're doneL642[09:49:41] <S3> Leothehero2110: like
exokernels! lol jk
L643[09:49:44] <MGR> I've
got some good news
<MGR> I've
got some good newsL644[09:49:47] <Katie> I was off
yesterday... now my entire week is off
L645[09:49:51] <Leothehero2110> I just
need to know, what Linux distribution is openos closest to?
L646[09:50:00] <S3> Katie: uh oh bad
sighn
L647[09:50:18] <Katie> ?
L648[09:50:23] <S3> sign*
L649[09:50:34] <Katie> again ?
L650[09:50:38] <Leothehero2110> Is
gertceats complete? :P
L651[09:50:49] <S3> Katie: did they say
something like, "don't bother coming in this week"
?
L652[09:51:02] <Katie> No.. Off as in,
feels wrong
L653[09:51:05] <MGR> Not
yet, but it's significantly closer
<MGR> Not
yet, but it's significantly closerL654[09:51:08] <Katie> cause it feels like
it should be monday
L655[09:51:10] <Katie> but it's not.
L656[09:51:12] <S3> Katie: OHHH
L657[09:51:19] <S3> I thought you meant by
work heh
L658[09:51:30] <S3> yeah it feels like
monday
L659[09:51:30] <Katie> heh a week off
would suck...
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L662[09:51:42] <Katie> Unless it was a
paid week off :P
L663[09:51:47] <Leothehero2110> Huh. But
right now, my main concern is that I have no clue what distribution
openos is closest to. Think you can tell me Corded?
L664[09:51:53] <S3> I'm in that boat atm,
but it's not that I'm getting fired, they fucked up my
payroll
L665[09:51:56] <S3> and docked my
pay
L666[09:52:00] <Katie> Corded is a
bot.
L667[09:52:02] <S3> until its fixed
L668[09:52:02] <MGR> Corded
is a bridge bot, and I don't know
<MGR> Corded
is a bridge bot, and I don't knowL669[09:52:06] <Katie> MGR is the user on
the other side of the bot.
L670[09:52:20] <Katie> S3 oh fun.
L671[09:52:26] <S3> and was like, well, we
gotta fix this, so technically unless you wanna chance it might as
well take the week off until we can pay you again"
L672[09:52:27] <S3> ...
L673[09:52:35] <Katie> Ouch.
L674[09:52:36] <Leothehero2110> Shame. I
was thinking of seeing if LXDE could be installed on OpenOs
L675[09:52:40] <Katie> just... ouch
L676[09:52:44] <Katie> ...
L677[09:52:47] <Katie> ....
L678[09:52:51] <S3> Katie: they have to
send mail out to other departments..
L679[09:52:56] <S3> so everything TAKES
FOREVER
L680[09:53:15] <Forecaster> it's a shame
people aren't as instant as email
L681[09:53:19] <S3> right
L682[09:53:22] <S3> I mean come on
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L685[09:53:39] <S3> see what happens is
that the place I work for "rehires" every 16 weeks or
so
L686[09:53:48] <S3> so you just fill out a
form and you're good to go
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L688[09:53:56] <Katie> Leothehero2110,
OpenOS isn't linux...
L689[09:53:59] <Katie> it's linux
like
L690[09:53:59] <S3> its when they raise
your pay, etc
L691[09:54:08] <Katie> you're not gonna
install a *nix DE on OpenOS..
L692[09:54:27] <S3> I like that model, I
like it a lot, but they depend on sending snail mail to get your
rehire / continue hired status and they screwed up the data
L693[09:54:30] <Katie> rehires...?
L694[09:54:39] <Katie> that's odd.
L695[09:54:46] <AmandaC> That sounds
sketchy as fuck
L696[09:54:49] <Katie> ^^
L697[09:54:50] <S3> nah
L698[09:54:58] <S3> it's how universities
tend to do it
L699[09:55:10] <S3> here*
L700[09:55:13] <Gavle> I want to edit
computer.shutdown() to accomplish some other tasks before shutdown,
how would I do so?
L701[09:55:49] <Forecaster> make a
modified copy of openos?
L702[09:55:50] <S3> it's abstracted, so
like, it's not scary when it comes, unless they screw up your
paperwork. They don't evaluate you or anything
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L704[09:56:01] <S3> it's just a way for
them to keep your information up to date and increase pay,
etc
L705[09:56:05] <Forecaster> run a script
on boot that overwrites shutdown
L706[09:56:15] <Katie> seems I wasted that
explanation
L707[09:56:19] <Gavle> What would the
script need to do?
L708[09:56:32] <S3> but they have this
silly policy where if your paperwork doesn't go through, the system
thinks your not working there, so you can't get paid
L709[09:56:46] <Forecaster> replace what's
in computer.shutdown with your own function
L710[09:56:54] <AmandaC> Katie: how to
install hackintosh on OC?
L711[09:57:09] <S3> so I owe $600 by
thursday and if everything gets fixed today I get paid friday
L712[09:57:12] <Gavle> Forecaster, how
though?
L713[09:57:38] <Katie> AmandaC, ¬_¬
L714[09:57:39] <Katie> :P
L715[09:58:09] <Forecaster>
computer.shutdown = function myshutdown or something
L716[09:58:11] <Forecaster> I'm not
sure
L717[09:58:38] <Gavle> local computer =
require("computer")
L718[09:58:52] <Gavle> computer.shutdown =
function specialshutdown ?
L719[09:59:01] <Forecaster>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L720[09:59:15] <Forecaster> might be
easier to just modify the openos code directly
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L722[09:59:25] <Forecaster> if you just
need the change locally
L723[09:59:29] <Gavle> As in, edit
/lib/computer.lua?
L724[09:59:30] <AmandaC> That's what you
do, Gavle
L725[09:59:59] <Gavle> What's what I
do
L726[10:00:08] <Forecaster>
"that"
L727[10:00:09] <AmandaC> require doesn't
give you a unique copy of the computer API, it's one global
copy
L728[10:00:16] <Forecaster> ^
L729[10:00:19] <Gavle> Ah ok
L730[10:00:28] <Gavle> thank you AmandaC
and Forecaster
L731[10:00:35] <Forecaster> but it's reset
if you reboot the computer
L732[10:00:35] <Gavle> Your contributions
will be noted
L733[10:00:38] <Forecaster> hence the
running on boot
L734[10:00:45] <Leothehero2110> Corded,
think it would be possible to install LXDE onto openos?
L735[10:00:49] <Gavle> Yes, that is
desirable
L736[10:01:00] <MGR> Leo,
Corded is a bot
<MGR> Leo,
Corded is a botL737[10:01:02] <MGR> Also,
no
<MGR> Also,
noL738[10:01:07] <AmandaC> Leothehero2110:
no.
L739[10:01:18] <Leothehero2110>
Ok...
L740[10:01:31] <Forecaster> openos isn't
linux...
L741[10:01:46] <AmandaC> It's also not
running real machine code.
L742[10:01:47] <Leothehero2110> I thought
it was based off Linus...
L743[10:02:05] <S3> Leothehero2110: First
of all, you would need to create an X server in Lua
L744[10:02:06] <AmandaC> It's based off,
but it's still running on a fictional archetecture.
L745[10:02:16] <Gavle> I'm going to be
running some GERTi code on shutdown so that a computer will try to
exit the network properly when it shuts down
L746[10:02:18] <S3> second, you would need
some sort of linux API / ABI abstraction
L747[10:02:24] <S3> like a Linux VM in
Lua
L748[10:02:36] <Gavle> Right now, it just
stops responding, and the network doesn't know what to do
L749[10:02:40] <S3> then some sort of
graphics thing that used say the unicode braile to draw the
pixels
L750[10:02:43] <S3> in the X server
L751[10:03:05] <S3> huh. This got me
thinking
L752[10:03:22] <S3> how slow do you think
a unicode braile X server like thing (super simple one) would
be
L753[10:03:29] <S3> not for that, but for
graphics stuff
L754[10:03:33] <Leothehero2110> i was just
curious since it runs on raspbian, which has Lua as well, and very
similar commands
L755[10:03:47] <S3> it -has- lua
L756[10:03:48] <Forecaster> what runs on
raspbian?
L757[10:03:51] <S3> but it doesn't run on
Lua
L758[10:03:52] <Katie> raspbian HAS lua..
it is not running ON lua
L759[10:03:54] <Leothehero2110> Lxde
L760[10:04:02] <Katie> ALL of OpenOS is
lua.
L761[10:04:08] <Katie> every, last,
line.
L762[10:04:20] <Leothehero2110> What about
plan9K. Same?
L763[10:04:23] <Katie> Yes.
L764[10:04:25] <Katie> Lua.
L765[10:04:26] <Gavle> Yes
L766[10:04:32] <AmandaC> Yes, OC runs
lua.
L767[10:04:32] <Gavle> All OS's run on
Lua
L768[10:05:02] <S3> Leothehero2110: now,
it isn't easily possible to run LXDE on OpenOS, HOWEVER.. you CAN
run it on OC if you use one of the more hardware like architectures
such as OCMIPS maybe? maybe.. No.. maybe that can't run linux
yet..
L769[10:05:04] <Gavle> Unless they
specifically mention being built for a different architecture, in
which case, you would need that architecture
L770[10:05:15] <S3> but you still have the
problem of an X server
L771[10:05:28] <S3> and graphics
drivers
L772[10:06:15] <S3> it would be neat of OC
had graphical frame buffers
L773[10:06:36] <Leothehero2110> Silly
question, but what does the eeprom serve in the computer again...
is it the bios?
L774[10:06:42] <Gavle> Yes
L775[10:06:46] <Leothehero2110> K
L776[10:06:51] <S3> Leothehero2110:
well..
L777[10:07:21] <Forecaster> it literally
says it's the bios in the name...
L778[10:07:23] <S3> I'd hate to confuse
but it isn't really a BIOS.. the eeprom is the first code run by
the system in the MC world
L779[10:07:29] <S3> yes but that doesn't
make it a BIOS
L780[10:07:33] *
AmandaC baps S3
L781[10:07:38] <S3> waaaaat
L782[10:07:38] <AmandaC> Stop confusing
the nublet
L783[10:07:45] <S3> but but but, I'm
EE/CE!
L784[10:07:56] <S3> I design EEPROMs
XD
L785[10:08:04] <AmandaC> There's such a
thing as too much information when getting started.
L786[10:08:08] <Forecaster> you're a
certified piece of electronics according to european
standards?
L787[10:08:32] <S3> AmandaC: but it's
harddddd
L788[10:09:03] <S3> Forecaster: not even
in Europe..
L789[10:09:20] <Forecaster> what?
L790[10:09:37] <S3> I am not even in
Europe
L791[10:09:49] <Forecaster> the CE mark
exists outside of europe :P
L792[10:10:02] <Leothehero2110> Just to
check, is Lua built into the mod, or is it the OS installed that
defines it?
L793[10:10:03] <S3> yes. But I could give
a care less about european standards
L794[10:10:16] <AmandaC> Leothehero2110:
it's built into the mod.
L795[10:10:23] <Leothehero2110> Darn
it
L796[10:10:31] <S3> Leothehero2110:
why?
L797[10:10:41] <Forecaster> S3: it was a
joke... that doesn't even matter...
L798[10:10:43] <Forecaster> -_-
L799[10:10:49] <Leothehero2110> There go
my hopes of installing Linux on OC
L800[10:10:53] <AmandaC> IT's possible to
add other "architectures" but none of them would be
capable of running proper linux.
L801[10:10:56] <S3> Leothehero2110: it
still uses the vanilla lua libraries
L802[10:10:59] <S3> afaik
L803[10:11:21] <S3> I think OCMIPS is too
old to run Linux 2.4 even
L804[10:11:23] <S3> iirc
L805[10:11:37] <AmandaC> There's an ARM
one, too, S3
L806[10:11:41] <S3> oh yeah!
L807[10:11:45] <S3> how is that one
L808[10:11:50] <Leothehero2110> You mean
like raspbian?
L809[10:12:03] <Leothehero2110> Or am I
confusing things
L810[10:12:10] <AmandaC> but it would
require a lot of stabbing inside the linux kernel to even get a
fork going. And that'd probably just be with all T3 ram
L811[10:12:13] <S3> Leothehero2110:
rasbian is a distribution of Linux
L812[10:12:28] <Leothehero2110>
Specifically for the raspberry pi
L813[10:12:35] <S3> the raspberry pi uses
a proprietary piece of junk ARM chip
L814[10:12:40] <Tazz> XD
L815[10:12:46] <S3> not that ARM is
junk
L816[10:12:53] <S3> I like ARM
L817[10:12:56] <Leothehero2110> It iiiis a
low cost pocket computer...
L818[10:13:06] <Tazz> ikr
L819[10:13:10] <Leothehero2110> Besides.
You can overclock it, just point a fan at it
L820[10:13:21] <Inari> Or buy something
better
L821[10:13:21] <Izaya> issue isn't
power
L822[10:13:21] <Inari> \o/
L823[10:13:35] <S3> usually you don't blow
air against something to cool it
L824[10:13:37] <Izaya> it's the silly
driver licensing and stuff
L825[10:13:44] <Leothehero2110> It works
for the pi
L826[10:13:48] <Leothehero2110> Trust
me
L827[10:14:09] <S3> it's more reasonable
to use a fan to draw air away from it, pulling the heat away
L828[10:14:10] <Forecaster> just point a
fan away from it*
L829[10:14:10] <Tazz> man its gorgeous out
right now
L830[10:14:17] <AmandaC> S3: It'd at least
keep the temeperatures lower, which means it wouldn't need to
throttle itself to stop from melting
L831[10:14:31] <S3> right, but bloweing a
fan at it just blows the heat all over the place
L832[10:14:33] <Leothehero2110> Yeah,
except it needs to be stuck to the pi.
L833[10:15:12] <Leothehero2110> Besides, I
think a desk fan is enough to disperse the heat. I don't care where
it goes, as long as it keeps my pi from melting
L834[10:15:19] <DeeJayh> the act of
pushing or pulling is irrelevant, it all comes down to whichever in
your setup pulls more air across the exchanger
L835[10:15:52] <S3> what about my
fan?
L836[10:15:56] <Gavle> Hello DeeJayh, how
are you?
L837[10:15:56] <S3> Leothehero2110: you
should use my fan
L838[10:15:57] <Leothehero2110> Also, how
is corded a bot? He responds like a human to me...
L839[10:16:07] <MGR> It's a
bridge bot
<MGR> It's a
bridge botL840[10:16:07] <DeeJayh> Good, surviving,
about to go to work.
L841[10:16:12] <MGR> I'm on
Discord right now
<MGR> I'm on
Discord right nowL842[10:16:18] <Gavle> That is good
L843[10:16:19] <Leothehero2110> I don't
need your fan... I have my own :P
L844[10:16:26] <S3> Leothehero2110: my
fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9GmBqoulZc
L845[10:16:27] <MichiBot> 350 CFM fan
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L846[10:16:28] <S3> use that one
L847[10:16:28] <DeeJayh> Leothehero2110,
its a middle man for the discorded server. hence "Corded
L848[10:16:33] <BloodyRain2k> corded is
skynet, of course it seems human to you, or it'd fail at
disguise
L849[10:16:41] <DeeJayh> notice someones
name is always in front of the message
L850[10:16:45] <DeeJayh> for example
L851[10:16:47] <MGR> Yes, I
am SkyZone
<MGR> Yes, I
am SkyZoneL852[10:16:54] <DeeJayh>
HI!
<DeeJayh>
HI!L853[10:17:00] <DeeJayh> ^
L854[10:17:03] <Leothehero2110> Aah
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L856[10:17:14] <BloodyRain2k> sentient
toasters, ALL OF THEM!
L857[10:17:22] <DeeJayh> Basically it
allows people on IRC and Discord to communicate together
L858[10:17:33] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL859[10:17:38] <S3> Leothehero2110: if you
want to skip the crap skip to 0:15
L860[10:17:42] <S3> then that shows the
real fan :D
L861[10:18:16] <Leothehero2110> Wow
L862[10:18:27] <S3> use that to cool your
pi
L863[10:18:28] <S3> :D
L864[10:18:40] <S3> it's 7000RPM, but I
had it running at 5000
L865[10:18:54] <Leothehero2110> Nah. I'd
rather not "Guilt the Pi"
L866[10:19:31] <Leothehero2110> I really
hope you understand that.
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L868[10:20:55] <GraptorHC> sHellcraft
Elementary Sch
L869[10:20:58] <GraptorHC> helo
L870[10:21:26] <GraptorHC> ;(
L871[10:21:35] <AmandaC> Greetings
Mortal
L872[10:21:47] <AmandaC> Would you like
some pie?
L873[10:22:16] <S3> Leothehero2110: I
actually got my finger stuck in that fan once
L874[10:22:23] <S3> ripped the skin right
off of it
L875[10:22:34] <S3> instantly
L876[10:22:45] <g> nope nope nope
L877[10:22:50] <S3> lol
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L879[10:23:31] <GraptorHC> are you guys
real?
L880[10:23:35] <S3> ?
L881[10:23:37] <Gavle> No
L882[10:23:42] <GraptorHC> no? :D
L883[10:23:43] <AmandaC> Is anything real,
really?
L884[10:23:44] <S3> GraptorHC: disconnect
try again
L885[10:23:46] <MGR> Nah,
we're the grass you're standing on
<MGR> Nah,
we're the grass you're standing onL886[10:24:02] <S3> GraptorHC: #define
real
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L888[10:24:47] <AcE441> Hello?
L889[10:24:51]
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L890[10:24:55] <GraptorHC> Hi
L891[10:24:58] <Gavle> Hi
L892[10:25:02] <S3> ever have a laptop
with a battery thats about to die, and you want to plug it in, but
you're too lazy?
L893[10:25:03] <AcE441> Hi noob graptor
:D
L894[10:25:10] <Forecaster> why are you
connecting with multiple accounts?
L895[10:25:12] <AcE441> yes
L896[10:25:13] <S3> and then when your
battery dies you get upset anyways
L897[10:25:14] <AcE441> my friend
L898[10:25:15] <GraptorHC> Hi Pro AcE441
:D
L899[10:25:17] <AcE441> graptorHC
L900[10:25:22] <Gavle> It's probably a
server
L901[10:25:24] <AcE441> he's so noob
L902[10:25:25] <AcE441> :D
L903[10:25:25] <GraptorHC> S3 we are not
Mult Accouting :
L904[10:25:36] <S3> GraptorHC: huh?
L905[10:25:36] <GraptorHC> Yes we are
playing on a server
L906[10:25:39] <S3> accouting?
L907[10:25:43] <GraptorHC> S3 No
L908[10:25:52] <GraptorHC> S3 Both AcE441
and I are playing on a server
L909[10:26:00] <AmandaC> Baking the books
are illegal.
L910[10:26:05] <AcE441> yeaaaa
L911[10:26:05] <S3> GraptorHC: are you
now
L912[10:26:07] <AcE441> i
L913[10:26:16] <MGR> @20kdc
Noice
<MGR> @20kdc
NoiceL914[10:26:19] <AmandaC> Amanda english
good
L915[10:26:27] <GraptorHC> Am I now what ?
:|
L916[10:26:31] <S3> GraptorHC: now you are
telling us this why?
L917[10:26:37] *
Inari sticks the books into the oven
L918[10:26:45] <AmandaC> D:
L919[10:26:47] <AmandaC> bad Inari!
L920[10:26:51] <S3> out of the frying pan
and into the oven!
L921[10:26:54] <GraptorHC> Because I want
you not to think that we are muliaccounting
L922[10:27:26] <S3> GraptorHC: Okay. That
sounds fair, but unusual. How might you think I would approach the
problem if you were?
L923[10:27:39] <AcE441> Hellcraft
Elementary School
L924[10:27:41] <S3> I can tell you what I
would do, I wouldn't care the slightest :P
L925[10:28:02] <S3> nobody cares if you
are multi accounting
L926[10:28:39] <S3> this is the
Internet
L927[10:29:08] <S3> nobody cares what
anyone does
L928[10:29:35] <Inari> S3: I don't think
tahts true
L929[10:29:52] <S3> Well
L930[10:30:38] <S3> In general, I might
say thatit's sunny outside and there is a snowblower outside my
window on my neighbors lawn in the grass for who knows what strange
reason
L931[10:30:38] <Gavle> Some people
probably care
L932[10:30:40] <S3> but nobody cares
L933[10:31:02] <S3> ...
L934[10:31:07] <S3> That is really
frigging weird
L935[10:31:17] <S3> why is there a
snowlblower in the middle of the lawn today
L936[10:31:24] <Forecaster> nobody cares
:P
L937[10:31:26] <Forecaster> clearly
L938[10:31:29] <S3> LOL
L939[10:33:33] <S3> KITTENS!
L940[10:33:47] <Inari> League of Legends
Kittens?
L941[10:33:50] <S3> my kittens are just
starting to become cuddly
L942[10:33:54] <S3> they're 11 weeks
old
L943[10:34:00] <S3> no
L944[10:34:04] <S3> real kittens
L945[10:34:06] <Forecaster> but nobody is
allowed to care D:
L946[10:34:07] <Inari> At least not
codly
L947[10:34:24] <S3> they're super
cute
L948[10:34:30] <S3> and who plays
LoL?
L949[10:34:42] <S3> I could never get into
that game, it was way too slow paced
L950[10:34:46] <S3> for me
L951[10:35:45] <g> I used to play it
L952[10:35:48] <g> slow-paced?
bahaha
L953[10:35:59] <S3> I came from
starcraft
L954[10:36:02] <g> every game has its
slower parts
L955[10:36:14] <S3> I'm used to 45 minute
straight adrenaline rushes
L956[10:36:14] <S3> :D
L957[10:37:33] <S3> omg lol
L958[10:37:48] <S3> so every time one of
the kittens goes into the littler box
L959[10:37:58] <Inari> S3: Lots of people
play LoL
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L961[10:37:59] <S3> the other kitten runs
accross the house and pounces on it
L962[10:38:32] <S3> 0% battery
L963[10:38:36] <S3> Inari: yeah I
know
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L965[10:38:54] <S3> I did play smite a
little bit, I thought it was a little fun
L966[10:39:19] <LuMistry>
@20kdc Well, that was exciting
<LuMistry>
@20kdc Well, that was excitingL967[10:39:28] <GraptorHC> how to use
geoglasses?> :(
L968[10:39:33] <S3> but in terms of RTS
like stuff the change from SC to LoL left me in
dissapointment
L969[10:39:38] <S3> or boredom
L970[10:40:03] <GraptorHC> Guys anyone
knows how to use Geoglasses?
L971[10:40:32] <Gavle> What are
those?
L972[10:40:59] <AcE441> kiramo
bokhor
L973[10:41:17] <GraptorHC> koskhol
L974[10:41:22] <GraptorHC> kos nanat
bezaram madar gahbe
L975[10:41:36] <Forecaster> I hope you
wore reistant boots, I hear dissapointment can be quite salty
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L978[10:43:30] <g> rip
L979[10:43:49] <g> S3, well that's
probably because these games aren't RTS games
L980[10:44:22] <Inari> ^
L981[10:44:55] <BloodyRain2k> mhmm, blew
up a nuke encased in 2 layers of reinforced stone, it blew up the
inner layer and nothing else, still killed a sheep and a cow nearby
that were outside, wat?
L982[10:45:08] <MGR> IC2
nuke?
<MGR> IC2
nuke?L983[10:46:39] <Inari> BloodyRain2k: Isn't
that how normal TNT works too?
L984[10:46:46] <Inari> Just becasue its
too weak to break a block doesn't mea it can't hurt :D
L985[10:47:26] <BloodyRain2k> it broke the
inner layer, so it wasn't too weak, also since when does tnt work
through walls that it didn't managed to break? and yeah IC2 nuke
MGR
L986[10:48:25] <MGR> IC2
nukes release radiation
<MGR> IC2
nukes release radiationL987[10:48:34] <MGR> That's
probably what killed the sheep and cow
<MGR> That's
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L989[10:49:55] <BloodyRain2k> well, that's
argumentable, I've been wearing the haz suit and was in creative
xD
L990[10:50:11] <BloodyRain2k> both because
creative doesn't protect against half an hour of slowdown
mk15...
L991[10:50:24] <BloodyRain2k> it just
prevents death, but that's it <.<
L992[10:50:24] <Forecaster> did you give
the sheep hazmat suits too?
L993[10:50:42] <BloodyRain2k> I didn't
even know they were there until I was a wool block laying around
:x
L994[10:51:48] <S3>
BLARRRRGRGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH
L995[10:52:02] <LuMistry> Cool
L996[10:52:08] <S3> so I get shit fixed
tomorrow.
L997[10:52:09] <S3> for work
L998[10:52:24] <S3> also g I consider LoL
RTS, it's just not a traditional RTS.
L999[10:54:07] <Inari> BloodyRain2k:
https://gfycat.com/UnnaturalNauticalCaterpillar
?
L1000[10:54:56] <BloodyRain2k> the
explosion went past below the obsidian, what were you trying to
prove again?
L1001[10:55:26] <BloodyRain2k> I've put
the thing in a 5x5 block of bunker stone and as far as block damage
goes did it not manage to get out :o
L1002[10:55:28] <Inari> I don't think
tahts how explosions work, but sure... *sets up another
thing*
L1003[10:56:35] <BloodyRain2k> well irl
you'd have the shockwave which can still go somewhat through
something, but at the point where that goes through that something
with enough energy to kill you did the something desintegrate
already anyways
L1004[10:57:09] <BloodyRain2k> imma test
another thing too, gotta leave out creative and haz suit and also
leave a hole in one side, curious how it'll treat that
L1005[10:58:12] <S3> ok. It looks like I
have to stay here
L1006[10:58:25] <S3> every REALLY wanna
just go somewhere but don't have the money for gas?
L1007[10:58:30] <S3> ike I have half a
tank
L1008[10:58:33] <S3> so I could drive 200
miles..
L1009[10:58:40] <S3> but that won't get
me anywhere..
L1010[10:58:41] <Inari> BloodyRain2k:
Well MC ain't exactly IRL
L1011[10:58:55] <Forecaster> it will get
you 200 miles in some direction
L1012[10:58:59] <Forecaster> :D
L1013[10:59:00] <S3> yes but
L1014[10:59:08] <S3> like, cut that in
half
L1015[10:59:08] <Inari> BloodyRain2k:
https://gfycat.com/ShorttermWellwornAfricanparadiseflycatcher
L1016[10:59:14] <S3> so 100 miles to and
100 miles back
L1017[10:59:19] <S3> what the hell can
you do within 100 miles
L1018[10:59:20] <Forecaster> unless your
car drives onto a large tradmill!
L1019[10:59:30] <S3> I get about 400 -
450 miles per tank
L1020[10:59:47] <S3> its a big tank
L1021[11:00:10] <BloodyRain2k> huh,
didn't know tnt did that, then again, it's flying tree remains: the
game xD
L1022[11:00:23] <Inari> Half tanks seem
useless
L1023[11:00:35] <BloodyRain2k> I was
probably thinking UT99 where you can hide from a redeemer behind a
sheet of paper :D
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L1025[11:01:12] <Inari> BloodyRain2k:
IIRC explosions work by shooting out a lot of rays in all
directions, that get weaker with eahc broken block or distance or
such? So it might noit be strong enough to break the block (esp. if
its a very high resistance block) but still kill something
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L1028[11:02:30] <BloodyRain2k> stood now
near the encasing block, roughly the distance the sheep was at too,
no creative nor haz suit, totally fine
L1029[11:02:43] <BloodyRain2k> maybe a
ray went haywire through some corners or something
L1030[11:03:01] <Forecaster> if you don't
fill in the corners the explosion gets out
L1031[11:03:12] <Inari> p l s
L1032[11:03:16] <Forecaster> diagonally
touching blocks are not sealed
L1033[11:03:34] <Inari> *chooses png
image to upload* "The uploaded image has the wrong format,
please use a jpg-encoded image."
L1034[11:03:59] <Forecaster> but pjg is
the superior format!
L1035[11:05:16] <BloodyRain2k> it was a
square 5x5 block
L1036[11:05:25] <BloodyRain2k> so the
corners were there
L1037[11:05:33] <Forecaster> that's weird
then
L1038[11:06:00] <BloodyRain2k> also I
somehow can't get it to blow up the inner layer again, but the hole
did work like a lens :3 blasted a directed hole into the mountain
behind
L1039[11:06:39] <Forecaster> I usually
just put real blocks in the directions I have things that I don't
want blown up
L1040[11:06:47] <Forecaster> then fill
the rest in with camo'd foam
L1041[11:07:12] <Katie> lol..
L1042[11:07:30] <BloodyRain2k> will be
fun when you later go "ah ok this corner is safe" and it
wasn't :P
L1043[11:07:55] <Forecaster> I know what
I build
L1044[11:08:01] <AmandaC> why are you
setting up nukes in your base to blow up?
L1045[11:08:03] <BloodyRain2k> I also
found out that my reactor design had a lot of redundant parts,
managed to cut down the part and material cost but I can't get it
any better running O.o
L1046[11:08:14] <BloodyRain2k> I was
messing with nukes and he has a reactor
L1047[11:08:22] <MajGenRelativity>
AmandaC, self-destruct button
L1048[11:09:46] <BloodyRain2k> I wonder
if forestry supports nuclear bees
L1049[11:09:57] *
BloodyRain2k sets up beehive in reactor
L1050[11:10:14] <MajGenRelativity> That
would be interesting
L1051[11:10:55] <Forecaster> I think
extra bees has a bee that produces uranium
L1052[11:11:05] <S3> super sad face
:(
L1053[11:11:24] <S3> all of that actor
model in lua stuff I did that didnt get git pushed is temporarily-
wait nope
L1054[11:11:35] <S3> I can take the hard
drive out of the laptop and run it in my desktop
L1055[11:11:37] <S3> er
L1056[11:11:39] <S3> maybe..
L1057[11:11:53] <S3> I think my desktop
might be IDE
L1058[11:11:54] <BloodyRain2k> btw
Forecaster, you lost one of your tropical bees, you know you can
just breed another princess to end up as a new tropical one?
L1059[11:12:18] <BloodyRain2k> just mix
random princesses with tropical drones which you should have enough
of and eventually you get a replacement :D
L1060[11:14:07] <BloodyRain2k> mhm cool,
finally an ender tropical hybrid that produces both's combs
L1061[11:16:59] <Forecaster> I
guess
L1062[11:17:56] <S3> I dunno what to
do
L1063[11:18:02] <S3> play MC or Civ
V?
L1064[11:18:43] <AshIndigo> Both!
L1065[11:18:56] <AmandaC> play Civ
MC
L1066[11:18:57] <Forecaster> %choose MC
or CIV V
L1067[11:18:59] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
CIV V
L1068[11:19:11] <S3> hmmmm
L1069[11:19:15] <AmandaC> ( MC is valid
roman numerals, I think )
L1070[11:19:16] <S3> %why
L1071[11:19:22] <S3> haha
L1072[11:19:29] <S3> I think you're right
AmandaC
L1073[11:19:32] <Forecaster> yes, yes
they are
L1074[11:19:37] <BloodyRain2k> M was
100?
L1075[11:19:42] <BloodyRain2k> or was
that 50?
L1076[11:19:49] <S3> MC is 1100
L1077[11:19:52] <Syrren> iirc M is
1000
L1078[11:19:55] <S3> I think
L1079[11:19:57] <S3> C is 100
L1080[11:20:03] <Forecaster> yes
L1081[11:20:04] <S3> so yea 1100
L1082[11:20:04] <Syrren> M for millenium,
C for century
L1083[11:20:05] <BloodyRain2k> atleast 3
of 4 digits correct xD
L1084[11:20:06] <Forecaster> 1100
L1085[11:20:11] <LuMistry> MC is
1100
L1086[11:20:17] <S3> but it's not over
9000?!
L1087[11:20:25] <LuMistry> No.
L1088[11:20:28] <S3> aww
L1089[11:20:34] <Inari> MC is
Microcontroller
L1090[11:20:45] <Syrren> it could also be
12 (i.e. 00001100)
L1091[11:20:51] <S3> heh
L1092[11:21:30] <Syrren> or 576 in octal,
or 4352 in hex... :p
L1093[11:21:42] <S3> Oh I know, this
friday I need to prepare an idea for a workshop
L1094[11:22:35] <S3> I'd like to find a
way to get people into social groups that don't know anything about
hardware design and design a non traditional CPU, etc on a
board
L1095[11:22:37] <S3> whiteboard*
L1096[11:22:48] <S3> using nothing but
human interaction
L1097[11:23:04] <S3> if anyone has any
neat ideas they're definately welcome
L1098[11:23:11] <Syrren> S3: https://github.com/justarandomgeek/factorio-computer
L1099[11:24:28] <S3> Syrren: neat
L1100[11:24:31] <S3> what is that
L1101[11:24:37] <MajGenRelativity> I'd do
it, but I don't know what I can bring to the table
L1102[11:24:39] <S3> as in, the
game
L1103[11:25:05] <Syrren> imagine
Minecraft with a really good industrial mod, except isometric and
the industry bit is actually the core game
L1104[11:25:06] <S3> it doesn't have to
be like a real CPU, it could be, "let's find a problem to
solve and figure out a way we can solve it just by using what we
know"
L1105[11:25:34] <S3> this will include
probably mostly high schoolers in a robotics program
L1106[11:25:34] <Syrren> sorry, not
/isometric/ per se -- it's 2D, rendered as isometric.
L1107[11:25:50] <S3> as a way to
introduce complex software design
L1108[11:25:51] <S3> etc
L1109[11:25:55] *
MajGenRelativity shrugs
L1110[11:25:58] <S3> in this case
hardware*
L1111[11:26:11] <Syrren> S3: the reason I
linked that repo is because it's got a CPU design where the
"word" is a fixed-size array of 32-bit integers
L1112[11:26:28] <Syrren> signed
integers*
L1113[11:26:41] <S3> heh
L1114[11:26:55] <Syrren> because that's
what the game's equivalent of redstone wire can carry -- a value
for each item type in the game, plus some "virtual"
signals which don't correspond to items
L1115[11:34:50] <S3> hmmmmm
L1116[11:35:02] <S3> what to do what to
do
L1117[11:35:09] <Syrren> come to
#factorio, join the madness
L1118[11:35:29] <S3> well I mean in terms
of like io access design for OC
L1119[11:35:31] <S3> for S3IX
L1120[11:40:36] <BloodyRain2k> factorio
is weird, it's NEVER on sale :x so many games on steam go
repeatedly on sale, and that one never
L1121[11:41:06] <Syrren> BloodyRain2k:
dude, there's a free demo
L1122[11:43:27] <MGR>
They stated that they would not be part of steam sales
<MGR>
They stated that they would not be part of steam salesL1123[11:47:56]
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L1124[11:48:32] <leothehero2110> Hey,
Shuudoushi, you at your Computer?
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L1128[11:48:57] <payonel> derpy
derp
L1129[11:49:00] <payonel> o/
L1130[11:49:27] <vifino> \o
L1131[11:50:04] <Katie> ctrl-w payonel
?
L1132[11:50:20] <Katie> leothehero2110,
Shuudoushi hasn't been around in a loooong time
L1133[11:50:23] <Katie> %seen
Shuudoushi
L1134[11:50:23] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi was
last seen 323d 19h 58m 15s ago. Saying: No Record
L1135[11:50:29] <Katie> yeah, damn near a
year.
L1136[11:50:33] <leothehero2110>
shame
L1137[11:50:33] <payonel> Katie:
aye
L1138[11:50:44] <Katie> I run his bouncer
account so his name is here, but he's not been here.
L1139[11:50:45] <payonel> leothehero2110:
why?
L1140[11:50:48] <leothehero2110> I as
hoping to ask him for troubleshooting on the secureOS
L1141[11:50:51] <leothehero2110>
was*
L1142[11:51:03] <payonel> leothehero2110:
i just created a PR over the weekend to update SecureOS
L1143[11:51:09] <Katie> payonel, I think
I have merge permissions on SoS... is that PR good?
L1144[11:51:10] <payonel> not sure if
shuu will take it
L1145[11:51:10] <leothehero2110>
really?
L1146[11:51:36] <leothehero2110> I was
just troubleshooting since i load up the OS floppy, and I havn't
got the login...
L1147[11:51:39] <payonel> Katie: i also
have merge perms actually, if shuu isn't going to review it, then
i'll have to find time to scrub it more carefully
L1148[11:52:01] <Katie> I'd go ahead and
do so if you have time.. I don't know enough about it to review
it
L1149[11:52:16] <payonel> ok, i'll make
time for that
L1150[11:52:32] <Katie> afk for lunch
early it seems
L1151[11:52:37] <Katie> decree from
sears.
L1152[11:52:47] <leothehero2110> can you
help?
L1153[11:52:58] <payonel> leothehero2110:
can you elaborate what you mean by you dont have login?
L1154[11:53:08] <leothehero2110> The
floppy asks me for the login, I dont have it
L1155[11:53:20] <payonel> leothehero2110:
the default username/password is root/root
L1156[11:53:23] <leothehero2110> k
L1157[11:53:24] <payonel> afik
L1158[11:53:28] <payonel> afaik*
L1159[11:53:44] <leothehero2110> also,
how do I make a file do a command
L1160[11:53:50] <leothehero2110> like
mkdir
L1161[11:54:02] <payonel> leothehero2110:
os.execute("mkdir") will accomplish that
L1162[11:54:08] <leothehero2110>
thanks
L1163[11:54:12] <payonel> you're
welcome
L1164[11:54:41] <leothehero2110> how will
I give the parameter to what to create?
L1165[11:54:50] <Forecaster> "mkdir
dirname"
L1166[11:54:54] <leothehero2110> k
L1167[11:55:43] <leothehero2110> I'm
trying to convert a computercraft script to OC
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L1170[12:08:19] <Inari> Would be cool if
we could somehow have a dating app for wild animals. To help them
find partners
L1171[12:09:33] <20kdc>
And how would you decide which to pair with which?
<20kdc>
And how would you decide which to pair with which?L1172[12:09:37] <gamax92> rng
L1173[12:09:47] <Inari> Dunno :P Ask
Human dating apps
L1174[12:09:59] <MGR>
@20kdc Sup
<MGR>
@20kdc SupL1175[12:10:22] <gamax92> Inari is a wild
animal
L1176[12:10:55] <Forecaster> an alogithm
that bases matches off of how much prey they've caught
L1177[12:11:55] <20kdc>
gamax92: Then either the thing I was going to note, that wild
animals don't care much for romantic-ness, is false, or Inari
doesn't care much for romantic-ness.
<20kdc>
gamax92: Then either the thing I was going to note, that wild
animals don't care much for romantic-ness, is false, or Inari
doesn't care much for romantic-ness.L1178[12:12:20] <20kdc>
Forecaster's algorithm might be of interest, though...
<20kdc>
Forecaster's algorithm might be of interest, though...L1179[12:12:48] <gamax92> it pairs those
who are bad at catching things together
L1180[12:12:54] <gamax92> their offspring
will be weak and dead
L1181[12:13:38] <20kdc>
If a system which asks a bunch of questions and compares how many
of them match is used, it will pair together selfish candidates,
resulting in disaster.
<20kdc>
If a system which asks a bunch of questions and compares how many
of them match is used, it will pair together selfish candidates,
resulting in disaster.L1182[12:15:13] <BloodyRain2k> does the
map range affect what range the nav module gets?
L1183[12:17:27] <Cruor> gamax92: cant
just call somebody a wind animal
L1184[12:17:35] <Cruor> wind animal? :o i
want one
L1185[12:17:53] <Cruor> i can type, i
promise
L1186[12:17:55] <Cruor> i blame the
heat
L1187[12:18:08] <Inari> Cruor's in
heat?
L1188[12:18:42] <Cruor> o boy
L1189[12:19:06] <BloodyRain2k>
leeewd
L1190[12:19:24] <20kdc>
we'll have to find someone for Cruor
<20kdc>
we'll have to find someone for CruorL1191[12:19:45] <gamax92> Cruor is
extremely dangerous and may attack at any time, so we must deal
with it.
L1192[12:19:46] <BloodyRain2k> also 64
blocks for the nav module independent of the map's range is meh
:<
L1193[12:20:00] <20kdc>
Inari: I recommend you figure out who... because you suggested the
possibility in the first place.
<20kdc>
Inari: I recommend you figure out who... because you suggested the
possibility in the first place.L1194[12:20:20] *
Inari hands Cruor a bodypillow of his waifu
L1195[12:20:30] <20kdc>
(*without specifying who it is*)
<20kdc>
(*without specifying who it is*)L1196[12:20:39] <20kdc>
(?)
<20kdc>
(?)L1197[12:21:18] <Cruor> Inari is finaly
mine?
L1198[12:21:23] <Cruor> after 5 or so
years?!
L1199[12:21:25] <Inari> Nope
L1200[12:21:27] <Inari> I'm already
taken
L1201[12:22:10] <Cruor> </3
L1202[12:22:20] <Forecaster> but the
pillow isn't :P
L1203[12:22:23] <DaMachinator> sadface.gif
<DaMachinator> sadface.gifL1204[12:22:48] <20kdc>
And a thousand ships sank that day, etcetcetc. Anyway! Back to
plotting wild animal dating.
<20kdc>
And a thousand ships sank that day, etcetcetc. Anyway! Back to
plotting wild animal dating.L1205[12:23:17] <Cruor> my life is ruined
</3
L1206[12:23:36] <20kdc>
gamax92: Indeed, though, you are right. Matching up animals which
can't catch anything with other animals which can't catch anything
will result in a bad situation no matter what.
<20kdc>
gamax92: Indeed, though, you are right. Matching up animals which
can't catch anything with other animals which can't catch anything
will result in a bad situation no matter what.L1207[12:24:22] <gamax92> what if alone,
they are bad at catching things
L1208[12:24:27] <gamax92> but together,
they're excellent
L1209[12:24:46] <20kdc>
Interesting case... but how to tell between it and the
previous?
<20kdc>
Interesting case... but how to tell between it and the
previous?L1210[12:25:04] <20kdc>
You'd have to match them up to find out.
<20kdc>
You'd have to match them up to find out.L1211[12:25:20] <20kdc>
(Unless there was a marker of some sort.)
<20kdc>
(Unless there was a marker of some sort.)L1212[12:27:20] <gamax92> Cruor and the
wind animal, the wind animal could go anywhere it wants to, while
Cruor, not a wind animal, could not.
L1213[12:28:00] <gamax92> the wind animal
feels bad for Cruor and so it brings back lots of gifts from the
places it travels to
L1214[12:28:08] <Cruor> so what qualifies
as a wind animal? :o
L1215[12:28:25] <payonel> Cruor: if
you're feeling gassy
L1216[12:29:46] <Cruor> oh my god, i can
have an eagle :>
L1217[12:29:46] <DaMachinator> air elemental?
<DaMachinator> air elemental?L1218[12:29:46] <DaMachinator> no, but you can have a
rabbit
<DaMachinator> no, but you can have a
rabbitL1219[12:29:46] <gamax92> how is a rabbit
a wind animal
L1220[12:29:50] <DaMachinator> i'm not really sure
<DaMachinator> i'm not really sureL1221[12:29:56] <DaMachinator> just trust me on this
one
<DaMachinator> just trust me on this
oneL1222[12:29:59] <gamax92> no
L1223[12:34:59] <gamax92> heh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1
L1224[12:46:21] <Forecaster>
it'snotabugit'safeature
L1225[12:46:58] <gamax92> it' snot a
bugit' safe a ture?
L1226[12:49:28] <20kdc>
I'm guessing this was a test of the bug tracker in
production.
<20kdc>
I'm guessing this was a test of the bug tracker in
production.L1227[12:50:11] <20kdc>
(That is, "well, we don't know if moving it to the final
server somehow broke something...")
<20kdc>
(That is, "well, we don't know if moving it to the final
server somehow broke something...")L1228[12:58:41] <Forecaster> https://techcrunch.com/2007/06/07/the-futurist-we-predict-the-iphone-will-bomb/
L1229[12:58:43] <Forecaster> woops
L1230[12:59:42] <Forecaster> although the
"cracked screens" part appears to be pretty accurate
:P
L1231[13:00:58] <MGR>
So, reality?
<MGR>
So, reality?L1232[13:01:06] <MGR>
Lol
<MGR>
LolL1233[13:01:25]
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L1234[13:01:44] <Forecaster> what?
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L1236[13:02:23] <MGR> I
was making a joke that the iPhone supposedly was bad
<MGR> I
was making a joke that the iPhone supposedly was badL1237[13:02:40] <MGR> It
was a bad one, because while it's overpriced and can't match
flagship Androids, it didn't "bomb"
<MGR> It
was a bad one, because while it's overpriced and can't match
flagship Androids, it didn't "bomb"L1238[13:07:12] <Forecaster> yaaay new
sim card has arrived
L1239[13:10:27] *
Katie noms the sim card
L1240[13:11:13] *
LuMistry recodes it
L1241[13:12:13] <gamax92> welp guess you
have to wait for Katie to give you back the sim card now
L1242[13:13:30] <20kdc>
*noms* it?
<20kdc>
*noms* it?L1243[13:13:53] <20kdc>
...I doubt it can be given back after swallowing.
<20kdc>
...I doubt it can be given back after swallowing.L1244[13:14:03] <20kdc>
Or crunching.
<20kdc>
Or crunching.L1245[13:16:40] <gamax92> well an sd card
can survive passing through the body
L1246[13:16:46] <gamax92> so maybe a sim
card can too
L1247[13:17:01] *
Katie hacks a hairball up with the simcard stuck in it
L1248[13:17:33] <Forecaster> it's a bit
sad shutting down the old phone for the last time
L1249[13:17:50] <MGR>
What's your old phone?
<MGR>
What's your old phone?L1250[13:18:02] <Forecaster> a Galaxy
S5
L1251[13:18:21] <MGR> Oh
yeah, same as me
<MGR> Oh
yeah, same as meL1252[13:18:26] <MGR>
What's your new phone?
<MGR>
What's your new phone?L1253[13:18:54] <Forecaster> S8
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L1255[13:19:11] <MGR>
Ooh
<MGR>
OohL1256[13:19:17] <Leothehero2110> Hi
again
L1257[13:19:23] <Forecaster> I bought the
S5 when it came out, 3 years ago
L1258[13:19:37] <MGR> I
bought the S5 2 years ago
<MGR> I
bought the S5 2 years agoL1259[13:19:49] <MGR>
And I'll probably upgrade at the end of this year / next year
<MGR>
And I'll probably upgrade at the end of this year / next yearL1260[13:20:12] <MGR>
Are you in the US Forecaster?
<MGR>
Are you in the US Forecaster?L1261[13:20:18] <Forecaster> no
L1262[13:20:44] <Leothehero2110> Hey,
guys, got any tips for converting computerCraft scripts to open
computer scripts?
L1263[13:20:50] <Forecaster> my "old
phones" box now has two phones in it
L1264[13:21:05] <Forecaster>
Leothehero2110: replace all the cc stuff with oc stuff
L1265[13:21:07] <Forecaster> simple
L1266[13:21:21] <Leothehero2110> K
L1267[13:21:30] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
events are different, and oc requires require for libs
L1268[13:21:33] <Forecaster> any more
vague questions?
L1269[13:21:34] <Forecaster> :P
L1270[13:21:46] <MGR>
Forecaster, oh ok so you get the Exynos version, good
<MGR>
Forecaster, oh ok so you get the Exynos version, goodL1271[13:21:49] <MGR>
What's the other old phone?
<MGR>
What's the other old phone?L1272[13:21:52] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
besides that i dont have a lot of info, i dont know cc very well.
but if you have openos questions, that i do know very well
L1273[13:22:01] <Forecaster> so you have
to do "local require = require("require")
L1274[13:22:14] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
i know you are using secureos, note that is based on openos, shares
a great deal of common code
L1275[13:22:26] <payonel> Forecaster:
...
L1276[13:22:28] <payonel> :)
L1277[13:22:34] <gamax92> payonel: did
you fix up secureos given that shuu is gone?
L1278[13:22:35] <Forecaster>
MajGenRelativity: the what what?
L1279[13:22:39] <payonel> Forecaster: at
least you said local :)
L1280[13:22:44] <MGR>
secureos has some differences, with requiring permissions and what
not
<MGR>
secureos has some differences, with requiring permissions and what
notL1281[13:22:55] <gamax92> otherwise does
secureos even work
L1282[13:22:58] <payonel> gamax92: i made
an effort :) but i'll finish the PR and merge this week
L1283[13:23:02] <gamax92> oh cool
L1284[13:23:18] <MGR>
Forecaster, the S8 has 2 versions, a US version with a Snapdragon
835, and a RestOfTheWorld version with an Exynos something or
other
<MGR>
Forecaster, the S8 has 2 versions, a US version with a Snapdragon
835, and a RestOfTheWorld version with an Exynos something or
otherL1285[13:23:31] <gamax92> which is
better?
L1286[13:23:32] <Forecaster> ah
L1287[13:23:34] <MGR>
8895
<MGR>
8895L1288[13:23:35] <payonel> gamax92:
https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/pull/68
L1289[13:23:55] <Leothehero2110> Can I
give you guys a task?
L1290[13:23:58] <MGR>
gamax92, I'm not sure which version is better, I haven't read any
reviews
<MGR>
gamax92, I'm not sure which version is better, I haven't read any
reviewsL1291[13:23:58] <Forecaster> the other
phone is a Sony xperia
L1292[13:24:15] <gamax92> payonel: uhh,
shuu is gone though so he can't exactly merge that
L1293[13:24:19] <MGR>
Forecaster, ah ok, I was going to be a bit creeped out if you had
my old Motorola Droid 2
<MGR>
Forecaster, ah ok, I was going to be a bit creeped out if you had
my old Motorola Droid 2L1294[13:24:36] <payonel> gamax92: yeah,
i'll review and test it myself, and merge later
L1295[13:24:56] <Leothehero2110> Can I
ask you to convert a certain script from CC to OC for me?
L1296[13:25:27] <MGR>
Script please
<MGR>
Script pleaseL1297[13:25:41] <Forecaster> what's the
program?
L1298[13:25:46] <gamax92> Show the
code
L1299[13:25:53] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
why are you using secureos and not openos? just curious
L1300[13:25:55] <Leothehero2110> I'll
give you the Link in a mo
L1301[13:26:05] <MGR>
Yeah, I'm curious about that too
<MGR>
Yeah, I'm curious about that tooL1302[13:26:32] <Leothehero2110> https://github.com/acidjazz/drmon/tree/master/lib
L1303[13:26:41] <Leothehero2110> https://github.com/acidjazz/drmon/tree
L1304[13:26:50] <Leothehero2110> Im just
checking out secureos
L1305[13:26:52] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
gists are good for code sharing, btw
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L1308[13:27:14] <Forecaster> for single
files at least
L1309[13:27:17] <Forecaster> :P
L1310[13:27:18] <Leothehero2110> I
haven't been able to get past step 1 tho on sOS
L1311[13:28:10] <MGR> Is
the f.lua what you want converted?
<MGR> Is
the f.lua what you want converted?L1312[13:28:13] <gamax92> this looks like
a library
L1313[13:28:26] <Leothehero2110> All of
it really
L1314[13:28:54] <MGR>
/lib/f.lua, drmon.lua, and install.lua?
<MGR>
/lib/f.lua, drmon.lua, and install.lua?L1315[13:29:14] <payonel> Forecaster
Leothehero2110: single files are good in gists. yeah..thanks,
sorry, i thought at first this was a single file, now i see it is a
path to a single file in a repo
L1316[13:29:25] <Forecaster> :P
L1317[13:30:04] <Leothehero2110>
Yup
L1318[13:30:40] <Leothehero2110> I wanna
get a draconian reactor going
L1319[13:31:14] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
so first of all, we dont have `peripheral`, but instead we using
components
L1320[13:31:22] <MGR>
draconic* also, those things are crazy
<MGR>
draconic* also, those things are crazyL1321[13:31:33] <Leothehero2110>
And?
L1322[13:31:38] <MGR>
I've never managed to beat the Chaos Guardian, so I've only built
one once in creative
<MGR>
I've never managed to beat the Chaos Guardian, so I've only built
one once in creativeL1323[13:31:49] <payonel> i'm not the cc
person here, at all, but that periphSearch(type) would probably be
just `return component.isAvailable(type) and component[type] or
nil`
L1324[13:31:49] <MGR> It
exploded 3 times before I figured it out
<MGR> It
exploded 3 times before I figured it outL1325[13:32:19] <Leothehero2110> This
computer craft script makes it as easy as a big reactor
L1326[13:32:39] <Leothehero2110> And
plus. Fully charged draconic armour ?
L1327[13:32:39] <AshIndigo> the chaos
guardian can be done if you death spam
L1328[13:33:03] *
AshIndigo wishes that he a extension that replaced all emojis with
text varients
L1329[13:33:12] <Leothehero2110> Can't be
killed in one hit. The armour will use 10mil from to prevent an
instant death
L1330[13:33:18] <Leothehero2110> Why do
you wish that?
L1331[13:33:43] <Forecaster> change
clients? :P
L1332[13:34:27] <Forecaster> I just see
boxes when people use emoji
L1333[13:34:27] <MGR>
Leo, yeah, I wear draconic armor 24/7, and my body is genetically
engineered to function as armor on its own
<MGR>
Leo, yeah, I wear draconic armor 24/7, and my body is genetically
engineered to function as armor on its ownL1334[13:34:40] <MGR> ?
Why not? ?
<MGR> ?
Why not? ?L1335[13:34:45] <Leothehero2110> ?
L1336[13:34:47] <AshIndigo> i like the
webclient to much to change it
L1337[13:34:59] <Leothehero2110> Also,
tinkers construct heart canisters :P
L1339[13:35:10] <MGR>
Botania ring of Odin
<MGR>
Botania ring of OdinL1340[13:35:26] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
also, in oc you dont render directly to a screen, you render to a
gpu. the gpu binds to any screen
L1341[13:35:26] <Leothehero2110>
Turrets
L1342[13:35:30] <MGR>
Forecaster, ? ?
<MGR>
Forecaster, ? ?L1343[13:35:40] <MGR>
Leo, TACEATS-U
<MGR>
Leo, TACEATS-UL1344[13:35:46] <Forecaster> my ssh
client can't display emoji :P
L1345[13:35:47] <AshIndigo> fore can we
trade computers?
L1346[13:35:55] <AshIndigo> ill take the
boxes you take the pictures
L1347[13:35:55] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
and thus, if you are trying to `monitor.write(...)` you'll need to
first `gpu.bind(monitor)` and then `gpu.set(...)`
L1348[13:36:09] <Forecaster> AshIndigo: I
use Irssi through SSH
L1349[13:36:09] <Forecaster> :P
L1350[13:36:12] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
but i don't recommend using the gpu api directly, the /lib/term
library should be easier
L1351[13:36:17] <MGR>
Forecaster, ? ☹ ?
<MGR>
Forecaster, ? ☹ ?L1352[13:36:24] <Katie> AshIndigo, I had
corded doing that... but annoyingly it turned :) to :smile:
L1353[13:36:27] <Katie> and shit like
that
L1354[13:36:52] <MGR>
?
<MGR>
?L1355[13:36:53] <AshIndigo> aww
L1356[13:36:54] <Forecaster> I could
script replacing the undisplayable characters with ascii emoji but
eh
L1357[13:37:01] <MGR>
:F:⭕:r::e:
<MGR>
:F:⭕:r::e:L1358[13:37:16] <Leothehero2110> Sure,
but can I ask you to perhaps do it for me? I'm not one with the
code. I can't even troubleshoot a small error in BRGC
L1359[13:37:19] <MGR>
:F: :O: :R: :E: :C: :A: :S: :T: :E: :R:
<MGR>
:F: :O: :R: :E: :C: :A: :S: :T: :E: :R:L1360[13:37:25] <Corded> * <Mimiru>
shanks @MGR
L1361[13:37:25] <MGR>
Dangit
<MGR>
DangitL1362[13:37:27] <Forecaster> fail
L1363[13:37:30] <MGR>
:F:
<MGR>
:F:L1364[13:37:32] <MGR>
:A:
<MGR>
:A:L1365[13:37:37] <AshIndigo> \o/
L1366[13:37:37] <Mimiru>
stahp
<Mimiru>
stahpL1367[13:37:49] *
AshIndigo supports mimiru's actions
L1368[13:38:02] <Katie> damn :( I'm out
of tea
L1369[13:38:02] * Leothehero2110
L1370[13:38:30] *
Leothehero2110 supports AshIndigo's decision of supporting
mimiru
L1371[13:38:30] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
no sorry, i dont have time for that
L1372[13:38:41] <Leothehero2110> Aww
shame
L1373[13:38:52] <MGR>
... apparently a and b are the only letters with emojis
<MGR>
... apparently a and b are the only letters with emojisL1374[13:39:16] <Forecaster> ?
<Forecaster> ?L1375[13:39:21] <Forecaster> that's your grade
<Forecaster> that's your gradeL1376[13:39:57] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
third, `os.pullEvent(ev_name)` would be `event.pull(ev_name)`
L1377[13:40:45] <payonel>
`os.loadAPI(lib_path)` would be `local local_lib_name =
require(lib_path)`
L1378[13:40:47] <MGR> ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
<MGR> ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?L1379[13:40:49] <MGR>
DONE!
<MGR>
DONE!L1380[13:40:53] <Corded> * <MGR>
drops microphone
L1381[13:41:09] <payonel> `sleep(time)`
would be `os.sleep(time)`
L1382[13:41:10] <Forecaster> well you've
already been graded
L1383[13:41:13] <Leothehero2110> Is it
possible to create a script that auto converts these things?
L1384[13:41:16] <Forecaster> so it's too
late I'm afraid
L1385[13:41:21] <MGR>
nooooooooooooooooooooo
<MGR>
noooooooooooooooooooooL1386[13:41:55] <Leothehero2110> There's
always next years grades sonny, after all, you'll be retakin' the
class!
L1387[13:42:57] <payonel> the install
stuff would need a few changes. it might be easier to use
/bin/wget.lua directly with os.execute() calls
L1388[13:43:17] <Leothehero2110> YeAh, I
think that too.
L1389[13:43:21] <payonel> and that's all
i have to say in review of the code you linked
L1390[13:43:40] <Leothehero2110> But
would it be possible to create a script that autoconverts
things?
L1391[13:43:56] <Leothehero2110> FYI
liapp doesnt work
L1392[13:44:00] <Forecaster> that would
probably take longer than convering it manually :P
L1393[13:44:05] <Leothehero2110> Luapp
*
L1394[13:44:16] <payonel> yes it would.
one of the issues is that oc makes things global
L1395[13:44:37] <Leothehero2110> Maybe,
but once the script is complete, it saves me tonnes of time, and
compat issues
L1396[13:44:48] <Leothehero2110>
Global?
L1397[13:44:48] <payonel> openos (tries
to) respects environments (i'm actually working on a bug atm
related to environments)
L1398[13:44:57] <payonel> sorry
L1399[13:45:00] <payonel> i meant to say,
cc makes things global
L1400[13:45:36] <payonel> and by 'cc' i
mean craftos (Right? that's the name i believe)
L1401[13:45:41] <Leothehero2110> So, you
need to reinsert a code every time paragraph changes?
L1402[13:45:45] <Leothehero2110> Yup
craftOS
L1403[13:46:14] <Leothehero2110> Is there
a way to do a Lua code as Global?
L1404[13:46:30] <MGR>
Technically you can do globals in OC too
<MGR>
Technically you can do globals in OC tooL1405[13:46:34] <Leothehero2110> Like
Global fs = "filesystem"
L1406[13:46:38] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
no like you just call out 'fs.open' for example
L1407[13:46:47] <MGR>
But it's not really a good idea most of the time
<MGR>
But it's not really a good idea most of the timeL1408[13:46:55] <payonel> mgr: that's not
what i'm talking about
L1409[13:46:55] <Leothehero2110> Why
not?
L1410[13:47:03] <MGR>
payonel, is there an advantage for fs.open over io.open?
<MGR>
payonel, is there an advantage for fs.open over io.open?L1411[13:47:14] <payonel> mgr - io.open
is buffere
L1412[13:47:15] <payonel> d
L1413[13:47:18] <payonel> but that's not
my point
L1414[13:47:23] <payonel> fs is global in
craftos
L1415[13:47:33] <payonel> in openos you
have to require the filesystem lib
L1416[13:47:36] <MGR> I
know, but just wanted to see if there was something I was
missing
<MGR> I
know, but just wanted to see if there was something I was
missingL1417[13:47:54] <payonel> technically,
the io lib is global (as it is in standard lua)
L1418[13:47:59] <payonel> and with io you
can do most fs things
L1419[13:48:12] <payonel> but my point is
that craftos libs are all global at the start of a script
L1420[13:48:25] <payonel> in openos you
require what you need (apart from the std libs)
L1421[13:48:35] <payonel> as is standard
in lua
L1422[13:48:47] <MGR> Ah
ok, I thought you meant global variables
<MGR> Ah
ok, I thought you meant global variablesL1423[13:48:53] <MGR>
global scope variables*
<MGR>
global scope variables*L1424[13:49:01] <Leothehero2110> Well, we
can program the script to insert the phrase at the beginning,
right?
L1425[13:49:19] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL1426[13:49:26] <payonel> mgr i said
global because they are global vars :) i wasn't referring to user
code though, but kernel code
L1427[13:49:35] <MGR>
Ahh
<MGR>
AhhL1428[13:50:04] <Leothehero2110> Anyway,
need to eat!
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L1431[13:58:31] <Leothehero2110>
Back
L1432[13:58:55] <Leothehero2110> Just
asking, do you guys know what pipedream is? OPPM
L1433[13:59:26] <AshIndigo> its a dream
about pipes!
L1434[13:59:28] <AshIndigo> \o/
L1435[13:59:32] <Forecaster> as in the
expression?
L1436[13:59:46] <Leothehero2110>
Legitimately. This is an OPPM Program.
L1437[13:59:48] <payonel> mgr: the 2nd
thing to note, filesystem api works with abs paths ONLY,
always
L1438[13:59:55] <payonel> io.open with
resolve the path first
L1439[13:59:59] <Forecaster> then
no
L1440[14:00:04] <Leothehero2110> It's
some form of graphics lib I think
L1441[14:00:16] <MGR>
payonel, ah ok, that's good to know
<MGR>
payonel, ah ok, that's good to knowL1442[14:00:59] <Leothehero2110> Can you
check for me? I currently am on my iPad, and I can't access my
computer.
L1443[14:01:04] <payonel> io.open calls
fs.open, but 1st: resolves the path, and 2nd: wraps the resultant
file handle in a buffer
L1444[14:01:28] <MGR>
payonel, what's the benefit of a buffer for file I/O?
<MGR>
payonel, what's the benefit of a buffer for file I/O?L1445[14:01:57] <payonel> 1. fewer reads
at the cost of memory if you're reading at suboptimal sizes
L1446[14:02:19] <Leothehero2110> What is
the benefit of pipes?
L1447[14:02:23] <payonel> 2. you have
format options, such as reading lines or reading a number
L1448[14:02:46] <MGR> Ah
ok, that makes sense
<MGR> Ah
ok, that makes senseL1449[14:03:23] <MGR>
GERTi implements a small buffer, but I did that to reduce the
amount of dropped packets and allow some more flexiblity
<MGR>
GERTi implements a small buffer, but I did that to reduce the
amount of dropped packets and allow some more flexiblityL1450[14:03:34] <MGR>
Good to know the benefits of file I/O buffering
<MGR>
Good to know the benefits of file I/O bufferingL1451[14:03:35] *
Leothehero2110 wonders why everyone seems to be ignoring
him.
L1452[14:03:49] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
because this is a chat room, not a help channel just for you
L1453[14:03:49] <MGR>
pipes, as in the | operator?
<MGR>
pipes, as in the | operator?L1454[14:03:50] <Leothehero2110> Um, what
do you mean by dropped packets?
L1455[14:03:56] <Leothehero2110> L
L1456[14:03:58] <Leothehero2110> K
L1457[14:04:07] <MGR>
Leo, say you have 2 computers connected together
<MGR>
Leo, say you have 2 computers connected togetherL1458[14:04:10] <AshIndigo> he dropped
his mustard packets ;)
L1459[14:04:12] <Leothehero2110> Pipes,
as in the plan9K OS
L1460[14:04:30] <Leothehero2110> Go on
MGR
L1461[14:04:33] <MGR>
Compute 1 sends a packet to Computer 2, but before Computer 2 can
read it, Computer 1 sends another packet
<MGR>
Compute 1 sends a packet to Computer 2, but before Computer 2 can
read it, Computer 1 sends another packetL1462[14:04:43] <MGR>
packet 1 would get dropped without a buffer
<MGR>
packet 1 would get dropped without a bufferL1463[14:04:59] <Leothehero2110> Aren't
there network switches for that?
L1464[14:05:09] <MGR>
They do not buffer packets
<MGR>
They do not buffer packetsL1465[14:05:31] <Leothehero2110> really?
I could have sworn the game said they buffered packets.
L1466[14:05:42] <Leothehero2110> What do
they buffer then?
L1467[14:06:01] <MGR>
Ok, yes, they buffer network messages, but that's only if they
can't send them fast enough
<MGR>
Ok, yes, they buffer network messages, but that's only if they
can't send them fast enoughL1468[14:06:29] <Leothehero2110> They
don't send network packets very fast
L1469[14:06:31] <Leothehero2110> Do
they
L1470[14:06:38] <Leothehero2110> Without
upgrades
L1471[14:07:29] <payonel> also, your
computer will buffer events until you pull them
L1472[14:07:56] <MGR>
Leo, not really, but it's ok for most small or medium
networks
<MGR>
Leo, not really, but it's ok for most small or medium
networksL1473[14:08:18] <Leothehero2110> Anyway,
a built in buffer won't hurt anyone in any case
L1474[14:08:19] <MGR>
Payonel, GERTi is primarily socket driven, with an event based
system incoming
<MGR>
Payonel, GERTi is primarily socket driven, with an event based
system incomingL1475[14:08:51] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
keep in mind, mgr is talking about a networking software package
they are developing, something you can add to your oc computer and
openos or other os
L1476[14:09:00] <MGR>
Leo, trust me when I say it's easy to drop packets with sockets if
you don't have at least a small buffer
<MGR>
Leo, trust me when I say it's easy to drop packets with sockets if
you don't have at least a small bufferL1477[14:09:31] <MGR>
Payonel, he knows, we've discussed it before
<MGR>
Payonel, he knows, we've discussed it beforeL1478[14:09:48] <payonel> Leothehero2110:
oc has a modem component that can send modem messages, and it is a
feature of oc computer to do some event buffering for you
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L1480[14:10:59] <payonel> it's worth
nothing that in a remote shell program i wrote for openos, i never
lost any packets
L1481[14:11:05] <payonel> HAHA
L1482[14:11:08] <payonel> awesome
typo
L1483[14:11:14] <payonel>
s/nothing/noting/
L1484[14:11:14] <MichiBot>
<payonel> it's worth noting that in a remote shell program i
wrote for openos, i never lost any packets
L1485[14:11:21] <Katie> lol
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L1488[14:11:41] <MGR>
Hahah
<MGR>
HahahL1489[14:11:58] <MGR>
Payonel, I prefer the unedited statement :p
<MGR>
Payonel, I prefer the unedited statement :pL1490[14:12:05] <payonel> i knew you
would
L1491[14:12:21] <payonel> but honestly,
while using my remote shell program, i never needed to account for
lost packets
L1492[14:12:33] <payonel> and i could
connect from a->b->c->d and use d's shell from a
L1493[14:14:53] <MGR>
Was it event driven?
<MGR>
Was it event driven?L1494[14:15:44] <payonel> of course.. ?
modem_messages are events, and key_down, key_up events are
events
L1495[14:15:56] <payonel> how else would
it be done?
L1496[14:17:03] <MGR>
GERTi's front end exposes connections as sockets
<MGR>
GERTi's front end exposes connections as socketsL1497[14:17:16] <MGR>
(Probably) like an Internet card
<MGR>
(Probably) like an Internet cardL1498[14:17:18] <payonel> which runs on
events?
L1499[14:17:49] <MGR>
Yes, but information loss can occur if a second packet comes in
before the socket is read from
<MGR>
Yes, but information loss can occur if a second packet comes in
before the socket is read fromL1500[14:17:58] <MGR>
Unless the socket is buffered
<MGR>
Unless the socket is bufferedL1501[14:18:03] <MGR>
Which mine are
<MGR>
Which mine areL1502[14:19:01] <payonel> you're throwing
away data related to socket 1 when data for socket 2 is received,
you write directly to sockets as events are processed, thus you
have to buffer in the socket because you aren't blocking until
socket 1 is read
L1503[14:19:20] <payonel> this isn't
because "packets" can be lost, but because you built LOSS
into your system
L1504[14:19:30] <payonel> to say oc or
openos can lose sockets is misleading
L1505[14:19:38] <payonel> can lose
packets* sorry
L1506[14:19:54] <MGR> A.
Each socket would not interfere with others
<MGR> A.
Each socket would not interfere with othersL1507[14:20:00] <MGR> B.
True
<MGR> B.
TrueL1508[14:20:03] <payonel> i didnt say
otherwise to A
L1509[14:20:14] <MGR> C.
I didn't say oc lost packets
<MGR> C.
I didn't say oc lost packetsL1510[14:21:52] <MGR>
GERTi also doesn't lose packets (except for extreme edge cases), so
all is well
<MGR>
GERTi also doesn't lose packets (except for extreme edge cases), so
all is wellL1511[14:22:10] <payonel> when we are
talking about oc in general, and you say "I did that to reduce
the amount of dropped packets" to a new user/member of the
channel, the details are lost that the loss you are referring to is
self-inflicted
L1512[14:23:30] <payonel> you prefixed
that statement with "In gerti" sure, but the context can
be ambiguous to a new user
L1513[14:24:32] <MGR>
Payonel, but he knows what GERTi is
<MGR>
Payonel, but he knows what GERTi isL1514[14:24:50] <MGR>
We've discussed it in moderate detail before
<MGR>
We've discussed it in moderate detail beforeL1515[14:24:57] <payonel> but then he
said "doesn't a relay solve that"
L1516[14:25:13] <MGR>
Yes, which is when I realized the error of my ways
<MGR>
Yes, which is when I realized the error of my waysL1517[14:25:15] <payonel> and so, it does
not sound like he understand that the limitations you are referring
to are imposed by gerti
L1518[14:25:27] <payonel> and not just
gerti, to be fair, but by adding sockets
L1519[14:25:32] <MGR> A.
True
<MGR> A.
TrueL1520[14:25:33] <payonel> which i
respect
L1521[14:25:38] <MGR> B.
What limitations?
<MGR> B.
What limitations?L1522[14:25:44] <payonel> needed an
additional buffer
L1523[14:25:50] <MGR>
Ah, yes
<MGR>
Ah, yesL1524[14:26:08] <MGR>
GERTi v1.0 will also have an alternative, event driven, front
end
<MGR>
GERTi v1.0 will also have an alternative, event driven, front
endL1525[14:26:36] <MGR>
Which does not need, and will not have, buffers
<MGR>
Which does not need, and will not have, buffersL1526[14:27:20] <payonel> and that sounds
like a neat feature, basically all user code would need to follow
async patterns
L1527[14:33:32] <MGR>
Payonel, sockets are async?
<MGR>
Payonel, sockets are async?L1528[14:34:01]
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L1529[14:34:06] <payonel> if you are
going to provide event driven data on a connection, then my code
would need to register a callback for said event
L1530[14:34:23] <payonel> and thus my
code would need to use an async pattern
L1531[14:34:30] <MGR>
Yes
<MGR>
YesL1532[14:35:08] <MGR> It
could also repeatedly use event.pull, but that is hardly
practical
<MGR> It
could also repeatedly use event.pull, but that is hardly
practicalL1533[14:35:23] <payonel> sure
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L1535[14:35:42] <MGR>
The dual front ends are designed to let people implement the design
that suits their use case best
<MGR>
The dual front ends are designed to let people implement the design
that suits their use case bestL1536[14:36:20] <MGR>
Either blocking or non blocking, asynchronous or synchronous
<MGR>
Either blocking or non blocking, asynchronous or synchronousL1537[14:37:28] <MGR>
They could even use both front ends at the same time, which is
kinda cool
<MGR>
They could even use both front ends at the same time, which is
kinda coolL1538[14:38:53] *
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tonight
L1539[14:38:54] <AshIndigo> http://imgur.com/gallery/LIczz
L1540[14:39:41] <payonel> AshIndigo: that
makes me a bit queezy
L1541[14:39:57] *
AshIndigo hands payonel a flamethrower
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L1548[14:59:51] <Inari> Arguing with an
engineer is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig. After a
couple of hours, you realize the pig likes it.
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L1552[15:08:01] <float_hand_thing>
hello?
L1553[15:08:19] <Forecaster> %hello
L1554[15:08:19] <MichiBot> Hello! Welcome
to #oc! The one and only opencomputers channel! Please ask your
questions directly and provide error/code examples! (Use
pastebin.com if theyre more than one line!) Dont mind the random
conversation you might have walked into.
L1555[15:08:59] <float_hand_thing> what
is this, some kind of help center?
L1556[15:09:37] <Inari> Well you can
genrally ask about OC or Lua?
L1557[15:09:40] <Inari> Theres also lots
of random talk
L1558[15:09:43] <Inari> A gamey
chatbot
L1559[15:09:48] <Inari> And our local
tentacle pit
L1560[15:10:06] <Forecaster> has anyone
remembered to feed that?
L1561[15:10:16] <Inari> I'm sure it had
plenty of fun with random people
L1562[15:10:25] <float_hand_thing>
.-.
L1563[15:10:26] <AmandaC> Forecaster: I'm
pretty sure Inari does every night.
L1564[15:10:33] <Inari> Or why do you
think theres lots of people in here that never talk?
L1565[15:11:29] <float_hand_thing> ./me
leaves
L1566[15:11:31] <Forecaster> maybe
they're waiting in line
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L1568[15:11:43] <Forecaster> ...
L1569[15:11:53] <Forecaster> why would
you announce leaving with a fake action command
L1570[15:12:01] <Forecaster> just before
actually leaving
L1571[15:12:25] <Forecaster> that makes
me kinda glad we scared them off
L1572[15:12:25] <Forecaster> :P
L1573[15:12:26] <AmandaC> Forecaster: to
give "TRUE FANS" a chance to go "No wait, don't
go!"
L1574[15:12:50] <Forecaster> but they
left before anyone would've had a chance to react
L1575[15:12:52] *
AmandaC has an ex like that
L1576[15:12:52] <Inari> Heh
L1577[15:13:41] <Forecaster> also I would
have accepted it if it'd said something like "./me slowly
backs away"
L1578[15:13:49] <Forecaster> but just
"leaves"?
L1579[15:13:50] <Forecaster> D:
L1580[15:13:55] <Forecaster> F
L1581[15:13:57] <Forecaster> minus!
L1582[15:14:00] *
gamax92 gives Forecaster garlic bread
L1583[15:14:04] <AshIndigo> !
L1584[15:14:11] *
AshIndigo steals a piece
L1585[15:14:12] <AmandaC> "F- Don't
bother seeing me after class" - Forecaster
L1586[15:14:18] *
Forecaster dips the bread in mayonaise
L1587[15:14:23] <gamax92> :I
L1588[15:14:26] <AshIndigo> D:
L1589[15:14:28] <gamax92> D:
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L1591[15:15:11] <Forecaster> (I don't
actually eat garlic bread with mayonaise, I just wanted to see what
the reaction would be :P )
L1592[15:15:17] <Katie> welp...
L1593[15:15:40] *
gamax92 gives AmandaC a tea cup
L1594[15:15:44] <Forecaster>
it'sakatie!
L1595[15:16:08] *
Katie looks around
L1596[15:16:10] *
AmandaC stares at the teacup, trying to will a drink into existance
in it
L1597[15:16:14] *
Inari wants a teacup bathtub
L1598[15:16:16] *
AshIndigo attempts to remember what he was doing just a second
ago
L1599[15:16:39] <Forecaster> AshIndigo:
trying to remember the second prior to *that*?
L1600[15:16:43] <gamax92> if you were
tiny you could probably use a teacup as a bathtub
L1601[15:17:01] <AshIndigo> maybe i
was
L1602[15:18:15] <gamax92> if you vacuum
seal your clothes they'll take up less space
L1603[15:18:42] <Forecaster> but then
they won't be able to breathe D:
L1604[15:19:01] <AmandaC> * DO NOT VACUUM
SEAL CLOTHES YOU ARE WEARING.
L1605[15:19:40] *
gamax92 pours tea into AmandaC's tea cup
L1606[15:20:01] *
AmandaC sniffs the cup, makes a face, wanders off to find something
to eat
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L1608[15:20:29] <Katie> Vac beds exist :P
though honestly you're not usually wearing your clothes in one, so
I guess your point stands.
L1609[15:20:49] <gamax92> :<
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L1611[15:21:30] <Katie> Oh hai.
L1612[15:22:28] <gamax92> %choose be
productive or search or watch videos
L1613[15:22:29] <MichiBot> gamax92: watch
videos
L1614[15:23:14] <gamax92> %lua local a={}
for i=97,122 do a[#a+1]=string.char(i) end return table.concat(a,
" or ")
L1615[15:23:14] <MichiBot> a or b or c or
d or e or f or g or h or i or j or k or l or m or n or o or p or q
or r or s or t or u or v or w or x or y or z
L1616[15:23:22] <gamax92> %choose a or b
or c or d or e or f or g or h or i or j or k or l or m or n or o or
p or q or r or s or t or u or v or w or x or y or z
L1617[15:23:22] <MichiBot> gamax92:
m
L1618[15:23:45] *
g scratches head
L1619[15:23:54] <Gavle> http://imgur.com/a/pLEN6
L1620[15:23:58] <Gavle> I currently have
that setup
L1621[15:24:13] <Gavle> I want to know if
there is a way to have redstone I/O blocks directly adjacent
without them connecting to each other
L1622[15:24:31] <AmandaC> Gavel = MGR
confirmed
L1623[15:24:40] <Gavle> What?
L1624[15:25:03] <AmandaC> "by
MajorGeneralRelativity 1 min"
L1625[15:25:10] <Gavle> Yeah the imgur
account
L1626[15:25:11] <Forecaster> what's a
Gavel? :P
L1627[15:25:11] <gamax92> EXPOSED
L1628[15:25:19] <Gavle> I can't be assed
to make my own accounts
L1629[15:25:24] <gamax92> a thing judges
use to smack against tables
L1630[15:25:27] <Gavle> Also, MGR took
that picutre
L1631[15:25:48] *
Lizzy nods, notes down on notepad
L1632[15:25:55] <Gavle> http://imgur.com/a/q3AtV
L1633[15:26:01] <Gavle> I don't actually
have MC installed on my computer
L1634[15:26:25] <gamax92> this is only
more proof that you are MGR
L1635[15:26:27] *
AmandaC thinks Gavle doth protest too much
L1636[15:26:45] <Gavle> gamax92, sure, I
guess
L1637[15:26:52] <Gavle> AmandaC,
cool
L1638[15:26:59] <gamax92> if you have no
MC then you couldn't have made that but you claimed to have made
that so therefor you are MGR
L1639[15:27:16] <Gavle> I didn't make
that setup
L1640[15:27:30] <Gavle> MGR did, sent me
the screenshot asking the question, and I forwarded the question
on
L1641[15:27:37] <Inari> Wat
L1642[15:27:40] <MajGenRelativity> He's
not wrong
L1643[15:27:53] <MajGenRelativity> I
asked him first because we were already talking in voice
L1644[15:27:55] <Forecaster> Gavle: you
cannot
L1645[15:28:10] <Gavle> Cannot stop
adjacent blocks from connecting?
L1646[15:28:24] <Lizzy> nope, because
they all act as a cable
L1647[15:28:24] <Forecaster> there's no
way to keep adjacent components from connecting
L1648[15:28:33] <gamax92> the downfall of
OC's component design
L1649[15:28:35] <Gavle> Darn
L1650[15:28:42] <gamax92> or I guess
network design
L1651[15:28:46] <MajGenRelativity>
Dagnabit
L1652[15:28:54] <Forecaster> maybe you
should be able to color components
L1653[15:28:57] <Forecaster> like ic2
cables
L1654[15:29:12] <Forecaster> or oc
cables, actually
L1655[15:29:15] *
Katie colors Forecaster blue
L1656[15:29:16] <Forecaster> pretty sure
you can color them
L1657[15:29:16] <MajGenRelativity> Plan B
time
L1658[15:29:27] *
gamax92 pokes Katie
L1659[15:29:31] *
Inari colors Forecaster half-pink
L1660[15:29:33] <Gavle> Forecaster, I
know you can color screens, but not sure about anything else
L1661[15:29:35] <Katie> you can dye
cables yes, either with crafting, or by clicking the cable with
dye
L1662[15:29:38] <Gavle> MajGenRelativity,
please confirm
L1663[15:29:52] *
Lizzy covers herself in pink paint and throws a tub of pink paint
at Katie
L1664[15:29:58] *
Katie pokes gamax92
L1665[15:29:59] <Forecaster> make a
ticket about coloring components :P
L1666[15:30:28] *
Katie renames gamax92 to baymax92
L1667[15:30:33] ***
gamax92 is now known as baymax92
L1668[15:30:38] <Katie> boom.
L1669[15:30:43] <MajGenRelativity> You
can dye cables
L1670[15:30:58] <Katie> I just said
that... lol
L1671[15:31:03] <baymax92> wait a minute
Katie how are you pronouncing my name.
L1672[15:31:07] <MajGenRelativity> I
know
L1673[15:31:40] <Katie> baymax92,
incorrectly, but I pronounced it this way for so long it's
stuck.
L1674[15:31:48] <baymax92> fair
enough
L1675[15:32:13] <Katie> yeah :/
sorry
L1676[15:32:21] <AmandaC> Gavle: no, and
please don't message people at random.
L1677[15:32:38] <Gavle> A. Ok then
L1678[15:32:41] <Gavle> B. It wasn't
random
L1679[15:32:57] <baymax92> @20kdc please
don't pm me either
L1680[15:33:08] <MGR>
Oh?
<MGR>
Oh?L1681[15:33:17] *
AshIndigo slinks away trying to avoid the pm fest
L1682[15:33:28] *
Katie PMs Mimiru
L1683[15:33:51] <Forecaster> /msg @all
Math.random()
L1684[15:33:55] <Katie> lol
L1685[15:33:58] <payonel> haha, Katie --
it'd be cool if we could get notifications like that here
L1686[15:33:59] <payonel> for all
pms
L1687[15:34:06] <baymax92> it's almost as
bad as ctcping a channel
L1688[15:34:22] <Gavle> Is there an issue
with PM'ing people????
L1689[15:34:24] ***
baymax92 is now known as gamax92
L1690[15:34:32] <20kdc>
Gavle: in this world, apparently so
<20kdc>
Gavle: in this world, apparently soL1691[15:34:33] <gamax92> yes, most do
not like it
L1692[15:34:37] <Forecaster> depends on
the context
L1693[15:34:45] <Gavle> Also, how is
gamax92 pronounced?
L1694[15:34:48] <Katie> payonel,
waht?
L1695[15:34:50] <Gavle> @20kdc seems
like
L1696[15:34:50] <Forecaster> and
recipient I guess
L1697[15:34:54] <Gavle> I love PM's
L1698[15:35:02] <payonel> Katie: not
seriously, i was kidding
L1699[15:35:09] <Forecaster> I only msg
people if there's sometihng that needs to be private
L1700[15:35:27] <Katie> payonel,
mkaaaay
L1701[15:35:28] <payonel> yep, pms are
for private stuff
L1702[15:35:30] <Gavle> I wish people
would be more open to them, that's my preferred method
L1703[15:35:41] <gamax92> preferred
method to doing what
L1704[15:36:36] <AmandaC> Gavle: let's
see how much you love PMs when it's 3am, while you're asleep,
consistently with two lines "hi" "im
hrny"
L1705[15:36:39] <AshIndigo> It also
vibrates my phone and or makes a ding whenever I get a pm
L1706[15:37:01] <Gavle> gamax92,
preferred method to sharing information
L1707[15:37:02] <gamax92> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUKEWC-BlT4
L1708[15:37:03] <MichiBot> This might
be a dangerous way to compress springs... :) | length:
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L1709[15:37:04] <AshIndigo> Which can be
annoying if its "Hi" "pls respond"
L1710[15:37:21] <Gavle> AmandaC,
obviously I don't want PM's of that nature, but this bouncer only
bounces to my hub desktop
L1711[15:37:33] <payonel> and to
mgr's
L1712[15:37:57] <AmandaC> Gavle: you lit
up about half my house with that PM. I prefer to use them for close
contacts / extremely personal matters, and only with prior
consent.
L1713[15:37:58] <MajGenRelativity>
What?
L1714[15:38:16] <Gavle> I, obviously,
wasn't aware of that
L1715[15:38:33] <AmandaC> It's pretty
common etiquie to ask before PMing, I thought
L1716[15:38:33] <Gavle> It was also about
a matter I judged to be worth a PM
L1717[15:38:34] <20kdc>
if a PM lights up half the house, I am now wondering what an IRC
network system notice does.
<20kdc>
if a PM lights up half the house, I am now wondering what an IRC
network system notice does.L1718[15:38:40] *
AshIndigo makes Christmas lights that light up whenever a pm
comes
L1719[15:38:43] <Katie> 3/4 the
house.
L1720[15:38:47] <20kdc>
Probably causes a nuclear meltdown.
<20kdc>
Probably causes a nuclear meltdown.L1721[15:38:55] <Forecaster> I wouldn't
ask :P
L1722[15:39:05] <Forecaster> but then I'd
have to have a reason to pm to begin with
L1723[15:39:06] <AmandaC> @20kdc That's
classified.
L1724[15:39:37] <MajGenRelativity>
payonel, what?
L1725[15:39:58] <AmandaC> Also, to be
fair, the lighing up is onluy from three drvices. My laptop in my
lap, my phone across the room, and that then triggers my watch on
my nightstand
L1726[15:39:59] <Katie> "Study
claims eating too many chicken nuggets can turn you gay"
L1727[15:40:13] <Katie> ._.
L1728[15:40:21] <AmandaC> Katie: This is
the future liberals want.
L1729[15:40:37] <AshIndigo> .-.
L1730[15:40:49] <Katie> You know I DID
eat lots of chicken nuggets as a kid..
L1731[15:40:59] <AmandaC> :P
L1732[15:41:01] <gamax92> But being gay
isn't a bad thing
L1733[15:41:12] <gamax92> it just means
you're a more open purso
L1734[15:41:15] <gamax92> purso.
L1735[15:41:21] <Katie> purso.
L1736[15:41:28] *
AmandaC gives gamax92 the "speel gud awhard"
L1737[15:41:57] <AmandaC> ( I'm tired of
keeping it around the house )
L1738[15:42:03] <Katie> heh
L1739[15:42:04] *
gamax92 gives it to Inari
L1740[15:42:50] *
Inari stabs gamax92 with it
L1741[15:42:53] <Skye> Inar idoe sspel
lcorrectl y,b u tsh emessesu ups pacing.
L1742[15:42:58] <Forecaster> I'm fine
with being straight though
L1743[15:43:10] <Forecaster> hm... would
I eat chicken nuggets if I knew they'd do that...
L1744[15:43:11] <Inari> %stab Skye
L1745[15:43:12] *
MichiBot slaps Skye with a weather caster doing [8]
damage
L1746[15:43:21] <Inari> I'm good with
being bi :p
L1747[15:43:22] *
Skye forcefeeds Forecaster chicken nuggets
L1748[15:43:22] <Forecaster> I don't
actually know...
L1749[15:43:45] *
AmandaC is fine being what she is, a cat on the
internet
L1750[15:43:49] <Inari> Forecaster: I
don't think I would, but I generally dislike the idea of stuff
messing with me in such a way :P
L1751[15:44:01] *
AmandaC meows and cuddles up against the channel's A/C
vent
L1752[15:44:04] *
Inari isnt fine with what she is, wants to be a foxgirl
IRL
L1753[15:44:24] <AshIndigo> %pet
AmandaC
L1754[15:44:26] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with AshIndigo's junk. AmandaC recovers 8
health!
L1755[15:44:26] *
AmandaC turns her back to Inari to not acknologe the
sinner
L1756[15:44:30] <AmandaC> ...
L1757[15:44:33] <AshIndigo> ...
L1758[15:44:35] *
Katie would make a few changes if able
L1759[15:44:39] <Katie> oh my fucking
gods..
L1760[15:44:39] <Inari> I thought cats
turning their back to you is a good thing
L1761[15:44:39] <Katie> lol
L1762[15:45:05] <Inari> That petting
though :P
L1763[15:45:20] <Inari> %pet
AmandaC
L1764[15:45:20] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with depression. AmandaC recovers 7
health!
L1765[15:45:24] <Forecaster> when writing
the inventory system I did not imagine that happening
L1766[15:45:28] <Katie> Damn it
Inari..
L1767[15:45:31] <AshIndigo> ...
L1768[15:45:39] <AmandaC> man, MichiBot
has it out for me today, it seems.
L1769[15:45:47] <Katie> Why did you put
AshIndigo's junk in the inventory?
L1770[15:45:50] <Inari> Welll
L1771[15:46:00] <Inari> Katie: It was a
joke :p
L1772[15:46:03] <Forecaster> because
inari
L1773[15:46:05] <Forecaster> of
course
L1774[15:46:06] <Katie> I'm sure they'd
like that back.
L1775[15:46:09] <Inari> It can only get
better, rigth!
L1776[15:46:13] <Katie> %give AshIndigo
AshIndigo's junk
L1777[15:46:14] *
MichiBot gives AshIndigo AshIndigo's junk from her
inventory
L1778[15:46:18] <Inari> %pet
AmandaC
L1779[15:46:18] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with a loli in a cute military uniform.
AmandaC recovers 1 health!, the loli in a cute military uniform is
eaten by a Grue.
L1780[15:46:22] <Inari> See
L1781[15:46:23] <Inari> better
L1782[15:46:23] <gamax92> %pet
AmandaC
L1783[15:46:25] *
MichiBot pets AmandaC with a bunch of Bees. AmandaC recovers 5
health!
L1784[15:46:27] <gamax92> :<
L1785[15:46:29] <Inari> pls gamax
L1786[15:46:30] <AshIndigo> \o/
L1787[15:46:40] *
Forecaster is sad nobody's triggered the change in %inv add
yet
L1788[15:46:41] <gamax92> the loli was
eaten D:
L1789[15:46:48] <20kdc>
Bees. Someone put... *bees* in the inventory.
<20kdc>
Bees. Someone put... *bees* in the inventory.L1790[15:47:04] <Katie> Damn it..
laughing too hard...
L1791[15:47:06] <MGR>
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
<MGR>
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESL1792[15:47:08] <Katie> hope no customers
come in
L1793[15:47:32] <Inari> %inv add asian
giant hornets
L1794[15:47:32] *
MichiBot summons 'asian giant hornets' and adds to her inventory. I
could get some good swings in with this.
L1795[15:47:42] <AmandaC> Inari:
pls
L1796[15:47:42] <gamax92> %inv add
RadioShack
L1797[15:47:43] *
MichiBot summons 'RadioShack' and adds to her inventory. I could
get some good swings in with this.
L1798[15:47:50] *
Gavle struggles with consistently spelling neighbor
correctly
L1799[15:47:57] <Skye> %inv add a loli
wearing Gothic lolita
L1800[15:47:58] <MichiBot> Skye: I cannot
execute this command right now. Wait 14 seconds.
L1801[15:48:10] <Skye> %inv add a loli
wearing Gothic lolita
L1802[15:48:10] <MichiBot> Skye: I cannot
execute this command right now. Wait 2 seconds.
L1803[15:48:13] <Skye> ....
L1804[15:48:14] <Skye> %inv add a loli
wearing Gothic lolita
L1805[15:48:14] *
MichiBot summons 'a loli wearing Gothic lolita' and adds to her
inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L1806[15:48:49] <gamax92> Katie: hi,
bored person here willing to do work on mods
L1807[15:49:03] <Katie> Umm...
L1808[15:49:16] <Inari> %inv add
freelance work
L1809[15:49:16] *
MichiBot summons 'freelance work' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L1810[15:49:19] <Katie> Unless you wanna
try to work out how to do 6 way facing shit in 1.10+ I don't have
much
L1811[15:49:26] <Katie> aaaand
customer
L1812[15:49:27] <Katie> afk
L1813[15:49:28] <Forecaster> %inv
list
L1814[15:49:29] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
L1815[15:49:32] <AmandaC> Hrm. I want to
add a speaker to my pocket-chip, but I don't want it to always play
aloud when using headphones. :<
L1816[15:49:47] <AmandaC> I guess an
inline switch would be the solution to that
L1817[15:49:56] <gamax92> AmandaC: wait I
though that mod would switch when headphones were attached
L1818[15:50:04] <AmandaC> gamax92:
nope
L1819[15:50:08] <Inari> %inv cat
summoner
L1820[15:50:09] <MichiBot> Inari: Unknown
sub-command 'cat' (Try: list, create (add), remove (rem, del),
preserve (pre), unpreserve (unpre), count, favourite (fav))
L1821[15:50:13] <Inari> %inv add cat
summoner
L1822[15:50:14] *
MichiBot summons 'cat summoner' and adds to her inventory. This
seems very sturdy.
L1823[15:50:14] <AmandaC> gamax92: it's
soldered to one of the headphone outs, I think
L1824[15:50:34] *
AshIndigo wonders when his order will arrive
L1825[15:50:38] <Inari> I never trust
these headphone switching things
L1826[15:50:50] <Inari> I'm also scared
it'll fail and play the stuff aloud even though I have headphones
in
L1827[15:50:51] <Inari> :P
L1828[15:51:25] <Skye> my phone went
"Holy Fucking Shit" in public once
L1829[15:51:28] <Skye> that was fun
L1830[15:51:31] <Inari>
s/also/always
L1831[15:51:31] <MichiBot> <Inari>
I'm always scared it'll fail and play the stuff aloud even though I
have headphones in
L1832[15:52:10] <AmandaC> AshIndigo:
what'd you order?
L1833[15:52:43] <AshIndigo> Gyroscope and
accelerometer
L1834[15:52:50] <AmandaC> ah, what're you
planning?
L1835[15:53:08] <gamax92> Inari: well you
can have separate volume levels for the two
L1836[15:53:15] <gamax92> so even if it
were to switch, have speaker volume at 0
L1837[15:53:26] <Inari> Not everywhere,
and still don't trust that
L1838[15:53:27] <Inari> :p
L1839[15:53:59] <AshIndigo> See if I can
make my pi rotate its screen when the pi is turned
L1840[15:54:12] *
Inari rotates AshIndigo
L1841[15:54:23] <AshIndigo> (Or atleast
rotate a GUI)
L1842[15:54:26] <AmandaC> AshIndigo:
ah
L1843[15:56:06] <Katie> Back
L1844[15:56:15] <Forecaster>
Forward!
L1845[15:56:37] *
AshIndigo picks up a normal USB cable and attempts to plug it into
his phone
L1846[15:56:45] <Lizzy> to the left now
y'all
L1847[15:56:56] *
AshIndigo wonders why it won't fit in
L1848[15:57:06] *
Gavle shanks MGR
L1849[15:57:21] <AshIndigo> :|
L1850[15:57:30] <Inari> %inv add Sangar's
Patreon
L1851[15:57:30] *
MichiBot summons 'Sangar's Patreon' and adds to her inventory. I
could get some good swings in with this.
L1852[15:58:37] <gamax92> Katie: what'd
you mean by that, blocks that take into account the direction you
placed them?
L1853[15:59:13] <Inari> I wanna work
more, but I have no work D:
L1854[15:59:32] <Forecaster> the solution
is to get work
L1855[15:59:36] <Forecaster> :D
L1856[15:59:38] <Inari> I'm trying
L1857[15:59:39] <Inari> :P
L1858[16:00:10] <Katie> gamax92, yeah,
ATM BlockOSBase (for instance) implements horizontal facing
L1859[16:00:31] <Katie> but for the life
of me I couldn't get vertical to do anything...
L1860[16:00:39] <gamax92> ahh, well I'll
look
L1861[16:00:51] <Katie> so I had to do a
ugly little hack for the turret to "attach" to the block
above it
L1862[16:01:10] <Katie> (on place it
scans around it, if it finds a block directly above it, it switches
to "inverted"
L1863[16:01:12] <Katie> )
L1865[16:01:14] <MGR>
LOL
<MGR>
LOLL1866[16:01:33] <Gavle> Thank you
Forecaster
L1867[16:01:41] <Forecaster> :P
L1868[16:01:42] <Gavle> In addition to
furthering my work, you also let that happen
L1869[16:02:15] <MGR> In
my defence, I was testing the shutdown override
<MGR> In
my defence, I was testing the shutdown overrideL1870[16:02:56] <Katie> I should really
make it rescan on neighbor change..
L1871[16:02:58] <Katie> hmm
L1872[16:03:36] <Katie> I wonder if I can
make it do left/right attachment
L1873[16:04:04] <Katie> that'd make
aiming it fun... lmao
L1874[16:04:21] <Katie> OH, @MGR I added
a new method in 1.10 that I *MIGHT* backport to 1.7
L1875[16:04:31] <MGR>
Mimiru, what is it?
<MGR>
Mimiru, what is it?L1876[16:04:39] <Katie> moveBy()
L1877[16:04:49] <Katie> so you can do
moveBy(5,0) and it'll move it 5 degrees
L1878[16:04:57] <MGR> Oh
cool!
<MGR> Oh
cool!L1879[16:05:22] <MGR> In
another humorous moment, I updated my computer.shutdown override
program and wanted to retry it, so I attempted to reboot the
computer
<MGR> In
another humorous moment, I updated my computer.shutdown override
program and wanted to retry it, so I attempted to reboot the
computerL1880[16:05:25] <MGR> It
told me No
<MGR> It
told me NoL1881[16:06:18] <Katie> I saw :p
L1882[16:06:32] <MGR>
Nono
<MGR>
NonoL1883[16:06:38] <MGR>
This happened after the screenshot I posted
<MGR>
This happened after the screenshot I postedL1884[16:06:52] <MGR> I
forgot that the program was still active XD
<MGR> I
forgot that the program was still active XDL1885[16:08:00] <gamax92> Who here wears
glasses
L1886[16:08:07] <Forecaster> I do
L1887[16:08:11] <Katie> oh lol
L1888[16:08:14] <Katie> I do too
L1889[16:08:30] <MGR>
And my shutdown override testing is complete
<MGR>
And my shutdown override testing is completeL1890[16:08:38] <MGR>
Thank you again AmandaC and Forecaster
<MGR>
Thank you again AmandaC and ForecasterL1891[16:08:59] <AmandaC> no problem
Gavle
L1892[16:09:15] <Gavle> @MGR
L1893[16:09:31] <payonel> Gavle: imagine
everyone is at the bar during happy hour. #oc has paid for the
space and we're enjoying each other's company. if everyone is
chatting at the same time, sure, it's a bit noisey, but you can
focus on who's talking just to you
L1894[16:09:37] <payonel> Gavle: sending
a /pm is analogous to asking someone, "hey, would you step
aside with me private into this side room to chat for a
bit?"
L1895[16:09:40] <payonel> it's like,
"huh? ... oookay, don't know you that well but what did you
need to talk about?"
L1896[16:09:58] <payonel> <really
delayed comment, i was having connection issues>
L1897[16:10:07] <Gavle> The delay is
fine
L1898[16:10:12] <Gavle> In that model, I
would also have no issue
L1899[16:10:44] <gamax92> well everyone
else is not a clone of MGR
L1900[16:11:14] <gamax92> is the horse
dead yet?
L1901[16:11:26] <Gavle> It seems like the
horse is not dead yet
L1902[16:11:36] <Gavle> Also, I don't PM
MGR on IRC
L1903[16:12:55] *
AmandaC hopes Gavle realises we're just giving him shit, and nobody
actually thinks he's the same person as MGR.
L1904[16:13:11] <payonel> AmandaC:
sometimes i honestly do
L1905[16:13:35] <Gavle> AmandaC, I
figured that out shortly after I joined
L1906[16:13:38] <Gavle> payonel, how
so?
L1907[16:14:05] <payonel> you share many
points of view, and then the mgr tagged imgur link :)
L1908[16:14:06] <gamax92> I ended up
having to make a script for that tessellator -> vertexbuffer
change, mostly to automatically add all of the .normal calls
L1909[16:14:06] <payonel> stuff like
that
L1910[16:14:26] <Gavle> The MGR tagged
imgur link was because MGR uploaded it
L1911[16:14:34] *
Forecaster read that as vexatosbuffer
L1912[16:14:39] <gamax92> but you know,
https://xkcd.com/1319/
L1913[16:14:40] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic
Name: Automation Posted on: 1/20/2014
L1914[16:14:40] <Katie> heh
L1915[16:14:40] <payonel> Forecaster: ha!
so did i :)
L1916[16:14:44] <Gavle> Also, we share
many points of view because I have know him for a decade
L1917[16:15:01] <Forecaster> also what
was with the random glasses question earlier? D:<
L1918[16:15:07] <payonel> Gavle: all very
plausible explanations :)
L1919[16:15:22] <AmandaC> Wow, I didn't
reaise MGR was only 10 /s :P
L1920[16:15:35] <Katie> gamax92, again
thank you very much for that too.. I'd never have got that working
:P
L1921[16:15:43] <Gavle> payonel, k
L1922[16:15:59] <MGR>
AmandaC, conglaturations! You guessed correctly ?
<MGR>
AmandaC, conglaturations! You guessed correctly ?L1923[16:16:05] <Vexatos> Forecaster, I
am not a buffer D:
L1924[16:16:06] <MGR>
Would you like to collect your prize?
<MGR>
Would you like to collect your prize?L1925[16:16:14] <AmandaC> Nah
L1926[16:16:18] <MGR>
Yay!
<MGR>
Yay!L1927[16:16:19] <payonel> Vexatos: well
obviously not, that's why we need a VexatosBuffer
L1928[16:16:49] <Gavle> Is experiencing
severe internal oscillations
L1929[16:16:59] <Gavle> s/Is/ /me
is
L1930[16:16:59] <MichiBot> Gavle: Invalid
regex extra non-whitespace characters found after substitute
command in sed script: s/Is/ /me is/
L1931[16:17:01] <Forecaster> we need the
buffer to ensure a steady stream of vexatos in case of connection
issues
L1932[16:17:06] <Gavle> Whatever
L1933[16:17:25] <Forecaster> Gavle:
that's not how sed works :P
L1934[16:17:31] <payonel> Forecaster: i
thought it was because sometimes we get more Vexatos than we can
handle
L1935[16:17:37] <Gavle> Yeah, I figured
that out
L1936[16:17:37] <gamax92> that's also not
how IRC works
L1937[16:18:12] <Katie> lol
L1938[16:21:55] <AmandaC> True story, for
awhile my first IRC bot would use /me foo instead of the CTCP
ACTION because the client I was using at the time showed them the
same.
L1939[16:22:15] <Gavle> Well, I've gotten
draft 1 of GERTi v0.11 done today, so now it's up to @MGR to test
and deploy
L1940[16:23:20] <gamax92> hmm, does
quassel support dcc? someone send me something
L1941[16:24:16] <Gavle> https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/GERT/tree/Development/GERTi
hooray
L1942[16:24:54] <Gavle> All yours
MGR
L1943[16:25:30] <MGR>
Indeed, so it is said, so it shall be done
<MGR>
Indeed, so it is said, so it shall be doneL1944[16:26:47] <gamax92> it seems
quassel does not have dcc
L1945[16:28:10] <gamax92> there's a DCC
page in the configuration but "Enable DCC" is not checked
and also greyed out.
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L1948[16:30:51] <gamax92> oh, I would
have had to started the core using --enable-experimental-dcc
L1949[16:31:01] <gamax92> ehh ... not
worth it nobody ever sends me stuff anyway
L1950[16:38:31] <Katie> I can count the
number of times I've used DCC on one hand...
L1951[16:38:40] <Katie> and all of those
times where working on my eggdrop
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L1954[16:51:40] <AmandaC> I can count it
on NaN hands
L1955[16:52:43] <gamax92> !
L1956[16:52:48] <gamax92> because AmandaC
has paws :3?
L1957[16:53:01] <AmandaC> because IIRC
I've never used DCC. :P
L1958[16:53:07] <gamax92> oh :<
L1959[16:53:33] <gamax92> give me back my
moment of feeling clever
L1960[16:53:40] <AmandaC> hehe, that is
clever, tbh
L1961[16:53:50] <AmandaC> I, however, am
not that clever
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L1963[17:07:02] <Katie> DCC RECV connect
attempt to gamax92 failed (No route to host) :P
L1964[17:07:32] <gamax92> uhh, no route
to host?
L1965[17:07:40] <Katie> yep
L1966[17:07:45] <gamax92> I gave you
athena's ip :/
L1967[17:07:51] *
Katie shrugs
L1968[17:11:27] <Katie> So.. I got a
request to update OpenLights to 1.10...
L1969[17:11:32] <Katie> I'm considering
doing so..
L1970[17:11:50] <Katie> GOtta figure out
if I can even do the color stuff in 1.8+ though lol
L1971[17:12:16] <Katie> well.. I assume I
can.. 'tronics does it
L1972[17:12:23] <gamax92> :D
L1973[17:12:58] <Katie> but in doing
1.10.. I might as well step through the versions too
L1974[17:13:10] <Katie> it's not a
complicated mod
L1975[17:14:05] <gamax92> ahh crap, got
to leave soon
L1976[17:14:25] <Katie> You're not
allowed.
L1977[17:14:26] <Katie> sorry
L1978[17:15:08] <gamax92> When may I
leave? I have cats to pet
L1979[17:15:26] <Katie> Forecaster, I've
not forgotten about your feature request.. I just have to figure
out how to do it :P
L1980[17:15:45] <Katie> Oh... if it's to
pet kitties, then I'll allow it.
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L1984[18:22:36] <gamax92> hmm
L1985[18:23:06] *
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L1989[18:23:51] <gamax92> quassel are you
blind.
L1990[18:23:57] <Mimiru> Yes?
L1991[18:24:18] <gamax92> hey
Mimiru
L1992[18:24:22] <Mimiru> Hai
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L1998[19:12:58] <MGR> In
the end, a radar gun capable of slowing cars through radiation
pressure would be roughly equivalent to a nuclear weapon, and using
nuclear strikes in response to traffic violations is probably
overkill. It would work, in the literal sense, but it would also
destroy the offender, car, police officer, road, and all other
traffic for miles around.[4]
<MGR> In
the end, a radar gun capable of slowing cars through radiation
pressure would be roughly equivalent to a nuclear weapon, and using
nuclear strikes in response to traffic violations is probably
overkill. It would work, in the literal sense, but it would also
destroy the offender, car, police officer, road, and all other
traffic for miles around.[4]L1999[19:13:11] <MGR>
There is no kill like overkill
<MGR>
There is no kill like overkillL2000[19:28:52]
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L2001[19:30:51] <gamax92> hmm, "The
coils in regular toasters get hot enough to glow, which means
they're over about 600°C" but most other sources say toaster
only get around 150C
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L2071[20:17:06] <Mimiru> Wait
L2072[20:17:12] <Mimiru> when the fuck
did I make all these branches?!
L2073[20:17:21] <Mimiru> OpenLights has
1.7-1.10 branches
L2074[20:17:31] <Mimiru> Oh, I'm sorry,
1.6-1.10
L2075[20:21:27] <LordFokas> Mimiru,
perhaps you've been drinking the good stuff? :p
L2076[20:21:42] <Mimiru> lol
L2077[20:21:53] <Mimiru> I was JUST about
to make these branches, then... they were already there
L2078[20:22:07] <LordFokas> *insert
"magic" meme here"
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L2080[20:24:17] *
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L2081[20:28:05] <Mimiru> :P
L2082[20:28:11] *
Mimiru flips forge
L2083[20:28:13] <Mimiru> %flip
forge
L2084[20:28:14] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
(╯°□°）╯ǝɓɹoɟ
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L2086[20:57:04] <Mimiru> ok.. 1.8.9 169
errors.
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L2090[21:58:20] <gamax92> Mimiru:
remember your handy dandy "cpw.mods.fml." ->
"net.minecraftforge.fml."
L2091[21:58:28] <Mimiru> lol yeah
L2092[21:58:38] <Mimiru> Already killed
off all but one error
L2093[22:00:57] <Mimiru> I gotta do all
the rendering shit now
L2094[22:01:00] <Mimiru> cause fuck
1.8
L2095[22:01:09] <gamax92> What is
OpenLights btw
L2096[22:01:30] <Mimiru> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/openlights
L2097[22:01:44] <Mimiru> The Colorful
Lamp... before it was added to Computronics.
L2098[22:02:27] <gamax92> burn Vexatos at
the stake?
L2099[22:03:02] *
Mimiru sighs
L2100[22:03:12] <Mimiru> Anyway.. I'm
about as far on this as I'm getting for now I guess
L2101[22:08:33] <gamax92> hmm, I wonder
how easy it is to add shaders
L2102[22:08:52] <Mimiru> And..
L2103[22:09:00] <Mimiru> I just deleted
everything
L2104[22:09:05] <Mimiru> by botching a
fucking commit
L2105[22:16:22] <Mimiru> Thank fuck for
git, I was able to find the commit hash and pull the files
back
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L2109[22:37:33] <S3> Mimiru: fun isn't
it?
L2110[22:37:34] <S3> :)
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L2115[22:50:55] <S3> IIIIIIII
HGIMOK;[
L2116[22:51:10] <Mimiru> Yep.
L2117[22:51:12] <Mimiru> meow
L2118[23:03:11] <Mimiru>
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: li/cil/oc/Settings
L2119[23:03:13] <Mimiru> right...
L2120[23:03:15] <Mimiru> fmfl
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AshIndigo
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