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L1[00:25:53] <gamax92> jeez ... I was gonna
look at Solra's cpu core to see if I'm doing a couple of
instructions right
L3[00:26:05] <gamax92> hello vomit
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L7[00:38:33] <gamax92> anyway, I should have
a 65C02 core for thistle now
L8[00:48:23] <viomi> Nice, gamax92
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L11[01:10:29] <viomi> Well, just switched
from openbox to bspwm.
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L13[01:29:07] <Izaya> I want to make a
comment
L14[01:29:17] <Izaya> but I don't want to
piss off vifino too much
L15[01:29:27] <viomi> Oh?
L16[01:29:36] <viomi> About tile wms,
Izaya?
L17[01:29:55] <Izaya> nothing wrong with
tiling
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L36[03:07:57] <Forecaster> %stab string
comparions in Java
L37[03:08:01] *
MichiBot hits string comparions in Java with a duck with sunglasses
and a newspaper. doing [11] damage, the duck with sunglasses and a
newspaper. sinks into quicksand.
L38[03:21:58] <Forecaster> yeah, wrote that
bit before that other bit with !=/== was revealed to not work
L39[03:30:01] <GreaseMonkey> at least
java's consistent in the regard of objects and references having to
be the same
L40[03:30:08] <GreaseMonkey> for equality
to work
L41[03:30:13] <GreaseMonkey> wait actually
on second thoughts maybe not
L42[03:30:29] <GreaseMonkey> ...ok i
suspect it is consistent here
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L56[04:57:54] *
Saphire sighs
L57[04:58:39] <viomi> %pet Saphire
L58[04:58:43] *
MichiBot brushes Saphire with Moody sandwhiches. Saphire recovers 4
health!
L59[04:59:08] <Saphire> A* can be used to
find the "minimal" route on a grid, where every cell has
value for it?
L60[04:59:19] <Saphire> *can A* be..
L61[04:59:45] <viomi> Don't know, sorry
Saphire... I don't touch java very often.
L62[05:00:06] <Saphire> ...that's not a
fucking Java, but plain algorithms
L63[05:00:37] <viomi> Then I dunno what
you're referring to :x
L64[05:03:38] <viomi> I used to be alright
with algorithms but not anymore.
L65[05:03:52] <Saphire> basically i have a
grid of known size
L66[05:04:05] <Saphire> every cell of grid
has a value attached to it
L67[05:04:35] <Saphire> and i have to find
the path with minimal total value from left top to right bottom
corners
L68[05:06:58] <viomi> It sounds like you
need a recursive binary tree..? So it can find which path of nodes
is the lowest
L69[05:07:51] <viomi> Though, not sure if
that'd miss a possibly lower path if said path starts with a bigger
number ...
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L71[05:10:23] zsh
sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L72[05:12:35] <viomi> Vexatos, you know
much about algorithms?
L73[05:14:10] <Vexatos> depends on the
algorithm ._.
L74[05:16:51] <Forecaster> Vexatos probably
knows all of the algorithms
L75[05:17:02] <Saphire> best/minimal route
on a grid with cells assigned a value?
L76[05:17:08] <Vexatos> Does AlgorithmX2
count?
L77[05:17:21] *
Saphire raises eyeridge
L78[05:17:32] <Vexatos> literally every
pathfinding algorithm ever?
L79[05:18:10] <Saphire> Hm..
L80[05:29:02] <vifino> viomi: bspwm? I'd
suggest 2bwm instead. I know the guy who maintaines it.
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L82[05:48:26] <viomi> vifino, that looks
really interesting. I might try it out in the near future, though I
-just- set up bspwm so maybe not right this second :b
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L84[05:50:34] <Inari> %inv add some
omni-gel
L85[05:50:38] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'some
omni-gel' to inventory. This seems very sturdy.
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L87[05:53:03] <viomi> o/ morning
Inari
L89[05:53:48] <Inari> %pet viomi
L90[05:53:48] *
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L92[05:57:10] <viomi> ouo
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L94[06:04:12] <Inari> %inv add a pack of
dried tentacles - "just add water"
L95[06:04:16] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'a
pack of dried tentacles - "just add water"' to inventory.
This seems rather fragile...
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L97[06:08:43] <g> Inari, people are saying
that the writing in andromeda is kinda meh in the first 10 hours
but it picks up
L98[06:08:48] <g> so if you already liked
the writing..
L100[06:08:52] <viomi> >the first 10
hours
L101[06:08:57] <viomi> How long is this
game?
L102[06:09:05] <g> mass effect games tend
to be pretty big
L103[06:09:24] <viomi> Well yeah, though I
guess I don't know exactly how big because I never finished 3
L104[06:09:27] <viomi> and 3 was the only
one I played
L105[06:09:49] <g> 3 is massive if you do
everything
L106[06:09:57] <viomi> I remember enjoying
that it was one of the few singleplayer adventures that let me
customize my character
L107[06:09:58] <g> which you probably will
want to
L108[06:10:04] <viomi> and also be a
lesbian
L109[06:10:06] <viomi> good game,
10/10
L111[06:10:11] <g> unfortunately
L112[06:10:15] <g> ME3's multiplayer was..
not great
L113[06:10:24] <viomi> I didn't know it
even had multiplayer
L114[06:10:25] <g> and it was mandatory if
you wanted the best ending
L115[06:10:32] <g> yeah, it was like
wave-based coop
L116[06:10:38] <g> playing it raised your
"galactic readiness" number
L117[06:10:42] <viomi> Eek.
L118[06:10:44] <g> which affected the
ending you got
L119[06:10:57] <g> the multiplayer in
andromeda is also wave-based coop but it's a lot better
L120[06:11:19] <viomi> If it's not coop
campaign then I'll wait for a sale :b
L121[06:11:33] <g> Wouldn't make sense
story-wise honestly
L122[06:11:48] <viomi> Well yes, because
they made it that way.. :u
L123[06:11:55] <Inari> g: I didn't dislike
it. It seemed to have a lighter tone than the originla trilogy but
its nice
L125[06:12:07] <g> Inari, I don't mind it
either really but it's definitely not up to par
L126[06:12:18] <viomi> I mostly want to
play for the alien girl
L127[06:12:20] <g> but there are very few
games with writing as good as that trilogy
L128[06:12:22] <viomi> :l
L129[06:12:30] <Inari> Andromeda MP i
snice so far, and doesn't seem too tied into SP
L130[06:12:54] <Inari> g: I don't have
high standards :D
L131[06:13:00] <g> kind of my point
lol
L132[06:13:02] <Inari> And Asimov writing
ismuch better
L133[06:13:03] <Inari> \o/
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L135[06:13:29] <Inari> Should ressurect
Asimov and have him write a game tbh
L136[06:14:58] <Inari> I still want a nice
survival/tech/buildup game :|
L137[06:15:03] <Ashindigo_> %inv add
resurrection stone
L138[06:15:07] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_:
Added 'resurrection stone' to inventory. I could get some good
swings in with this.
L139[06:15:30] <Inari> %inv list
L141[06:15:50] <Inari> %inv add Element
Zero
L142[06:15:50] <MichiBot> Inari: Added
'Element Zero' to inventory. I could get some good swings in with
this.
L143[06:16:07] <g> Inari, a
survival/tech/buildup game?
L144[06:16:56] <Inari> Like survival as
in, you need food, there are hazardous weather/climate things and
such. Tech/buildup as in, there should be eventually technology to
deal wiht those kinda things but ideally you'd build your way up to
that :P
L145[06:17:09] <g> Eco, maybe?
L146[06:17:16] <g> It's not quite at that
level yet though
L147[06:17:25] <Ashindigo_> Oxygen not
included?
L148[06:17:28] <Inari> Something like
techmodded MC but with proper weather conditions/hazards and a good
techtree
L149[06:17:38] <g> Eco is like
L150[06:17:43] <Ashindigo_> Its in early
beta but it could be what your looking for
L151[06:17:50] <g> It's kinda
minecraft-like but it's got a fully simulated environment
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L153[06:18:06]
<Mettaton_Fab> %inv add many cassette
tapes
L154[06:18:10] <MichiBot> Mettaton_Fab:
Added 'many cassette tapes' to inventory. This seems very
sturdy.
L155[06:18:12] <g> The point is that you
have to avert a disaster that's going to destroy the planet after x
days and you need to do it without making it impossible to live
there
L156[06:18:25] <g> so it simulates
pollution, wildlife, etc
L157[06:18:34] <g> but it's in early
access
L158[06:18:45] <Inari> g: Been looking at
it for a while. Heard of an odd change they made though that I
dislike the philosophy of :P
L159[06:18:53] <g> What change? :P
L160[06:18:54] <Inari> From learning sills
by doing to leranign skils by eating specifi cfood
L161[06:19:05] <g> Huh, I never heard of
that
L162[06:19:10] <g> and I read the
changelogs
L163[06:19:15] <Inari> Not sure
L164[06:19:17] <g> I'm a backer so they
get emailed to me
L165[06:19:20] <Inari> Just read about it
on the steam forums
L166[06:21:52] <Forecaster> ONI is
interesting, but incomplete
L167[06:22:08] <Forecaster> I'll love to
play it when it's done
L168[06:22:16] <Inari> Same, I'll play it
when its done
L169[06:22:19] <Inari> Its not quite what
I seek though
L170[06:22:25] <Inari> I want something
where I control my own character
L171[06:28:34] <Inari> I mostly like
survival stuff. But when theres no long-term tech or such its
alawys like.. well I'll have to keep scavenging and doing
everything all the time, no matter how long I play it, I'd like a
sense of progress. Automating things so I can move on to greater
things to do
L172[06:28:51] <Inari> But I also want the
atuomation to take skill and be interesting, not just "click
this button" and be done :P
L173[06:28:57] <g> Fortresscraft is a kind
of eh way of doing it
L174[06:29:01] <g> it works well enough
but it's kinda grindy
L175[06:29:20] <g> your ship gets wrecked
on a planet and you're trying to leave
L176[06:29:29] <g> so you have to build up
your tech from your base thing
L177[06:29:35] <Inari> Fortresscraft
starts too late I think, and its too floaty in controls, with werid
graphics
L178[06:29:47] <Inari> Too late as in,
you're already pretty hightech
L179[06:29:53] <g> hmm, I guess
L180[06:30:14] <Inari> Also has no farming
or the like :D
L181[06:33:25] <Inari> I think my ideal
game isn't quite possible with current computers though xD
L182[06:34:18] <Inari> I guess early
atuomation could be NPCs. So you found villages and such. Since you
need some way to not have to do everythign yourself. And machines
are pretty hightech
L183[06:38:05] *
Saphire groans
L184[06:38:12] <Saphire> So, trying up
solve a task
L185[06:38:14] <Inari> Stop sounding so
lewd
L186[06:38:38] <Saphire> When i use
numbers... I solve it fine.
L187[06:38:59] <Saphire> But when I start
simplifying it into a single equation..
L188[06:39:06] <Inari> "trying up
solve a task" What
L189[06:39:08] <Saphire> It becomes a
WTF
L190[06:39:12] <Saphire> *to
L191[06:39:18] <Inari> What task
L192[06:39:19] <Inari> :|
L193[06:39:31] <Saphire> Uh.. math task?
Bleh, forgot the word
L194[06:39:36] <Inari> Yeah but
L195[06:39:38] <Inari> What
specifically
L196[06:39:39] <Inari> :P
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L198[06:42:27] <Saphire> Uh..
L199[06:43:05] <Saphire> Counting an
amount of nodes in binary tree with specific amount of nodes
L200[06:43:13] <Saphire> *of end
nodes
L201[06:43:24] <Inari> So an
algorithm?
L202[06:43:38] <Saphire> Uh, you only know
the amount of end nodes
L203[06:43:55] <Inari> Oh right
L204[06:43:59] <Inari> I guess you can
calcualte using that
L205[06:43:59] <Inari> :P
L206[06:44:14] <Saphire> And that it is
"wide" tree, where every layer is filled up first before
the following
L207[06:44:23] <Inari> So like
L208[06:44:26] <Inari> 2 end nodes implies
3 nodes
L209[06:44:52] <Saphire> Yup
L210[06:45:07] <Saphire> 3 ends = 5
nodes
L211[06:45:20] <Saphire> 4 ends = 7
nodes
L212[06:45:29] <Inari> Hrm
L213[06:45:45] <Inari> But what if you
have like
L214[06:45:58] <Saphire> 5 ends = 9
nodes..
L215[06:46:01] <Saphire> Wait
L216[06:46:14] <Saphire> Is it actually 2x
- 1? O.o
L217[06:46:17] <Saphire> Hmmm
L219[06:47:29] <Saphire> It's busy
tree
L220[06:47:40] <Saphire> 8 binary
L221[06:47:49] <Saphire> Gah..
L222[06:48:22] *
Saphire squints
L223[06:48:45] <Saphire> How do I check if
I have correct solution even? o.O
L224[06:48:55] <Inari> Write a
program
L225[06:48:55] <Inari> :P
L226[06:48:59] <Inari> Or like
L227[06:49:01] <Saphire> But.. uh
L228[06:49:02] <Inari> use mathematical
proof
L229[06:49:16] <Saphire> I kinda got one?
Hmm
L231[06:51:15] <Saphire> ...It seems that
it is "N=2x-1", where x is amount of ends and N is total
amount of nodes
L232[06:51:30] <Saphire> Please tell me
that I'm not correct in that one ._.
L233[06:53:07] <Inari> Makes sense,
no?
L234[06:53:19] <Inari> Each layer you add,
you add twice the amount of previous nodes present
L235[06:53:26] <Inari> so 2*x
L236[06:53:35] <Inari> first layer -> 1
node, so -1
L237[06:53:51] <Inari> second layer ->
you add two nodes
L238[06:53:59] <Inari> third layer->
you add four nodes
L239[06:57:27] <Saphire> It's too simple
x.x
L240[06:57:44] <Inari> Heh
L241[07:01:23] <Inari> "The number of
nodes {\displaystyle n} n in a full binary tree[...]"
L242[07:01:28] <Inari> "The number of
leaf nodes {\displaystyle l} l in a perfect binary tree, is
{\displaystyle l=(n+1)/2} l=(n+1)/2"
L243[07:02:06] <Saphire> Aaaand it's
correct
L244[07:02:06] <Inari> l=(n+1)/2 -> l*2
= n+1 l*2-1 = n... so there you have your 2x-1
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L247[07:25:24] <Inari> %inv add the binary
tree of love
L248[07:25:28] <MichiBot> Inari: Added
'the binary tree of love' to inventory. This seems rather
fragile...
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L250[07:48:25] *
viomi yaaawns.
L251[07:48:59] *
Inari bottles viomi's yawn and puts it into her
collection
L252[07:49:58] <viomi> :o
L253[07:50:18] <viomi> Hey, you better pay
for that! Yawns don't grow on trees you know.
L254[07:50:26] <viomi> %inv add yawns that
grow on trees
L255[07:50:30] <MichiBot> viomi: Added
'yawns that grow on trees' to inventory. This seems rather
fragile...
L256[07:50:43] *
Ashindigo_ sprinkles coins onto viomi's head
L257[07:50:58] <viomi> :v
L258[07:54:08] <Forecaster> %juggle
L259[07:54:12] *
MichiBot juggles with item tetris, MichiBot's cold, dead heart.
& Uninstall
L260[07:54:13] *
MichiBot drops item tetris which takes 2 damage
L261[07:54:14] *
MichiBot drops Uninstall which takes 3 damage, Uninstall suddenly
ceases to be.
L262[07:54:15] <MichiBot> Not
again...
L263[07:54:31] <Ashindigo_> great now we
cant uninstall michibot
L264[07:54:47] *
viomi gasps.
L265[07:54:52] <viomi> Why would we ever
want to uninstall her? ;;
L266[07:56:20] *
Ashindigo_ runs
L267[07:57:20] <Forecaster> %stab
Ashindigo_
L268[07:57:20] *
MichiBot shivs Ashindigo_ with ⸘Interrobang‽ doing [2]
damage
L269[07:58:14] *
Ashindigo_ dies
L270[07:59:04] <Forecaster> are you a
wizard or something? :P
L271[08:03:58] <Ashindigo_> Maybe?
L272[08:04:46] <Forecaster> cause you only
had 2 hitpoints apparently :P
L273[08:05:22] <Ashindigo_> I didn't heal
myself after taking previous damage :|
L274[08:05:40] *
Ashindigo_ grabs some food for hp
L275[08:06:22] <Inari> %pet
Ashindigo_
L276[08:06:25] *
MichiBot pets Ashindigo_ with 12th plane of suffering. Ashindigo_
recovers 4 health!
L277[08:06:54] <Inari> You a masochist or
so
L278[08:07:06] <Forecaster> %inv
count
L279[08:07:10] <MichiBot> The inventory
contains 139 items.
L280[08:08:00] *
Ashindigo_ questions how pain healed him
L281[08:08:59] <vifino> rawr
L282[08:10:02] <Ashindigo_> %pet
vifino
L283[08:10:07] *
MichiBot pets vifino with Penguin floppy disk. vifino recovers 11
health!
L284[08:10:44] <Forecaster> ?search
L285[08:10:47] <vifino> ooo, penguin
floppy disk.
L286[08:10:48] <Forecaster> oops
L287[08:10:53] <Forecaster> wrong channel
>:
L288[08:20:22] <vifino> I'm upset my rust
code works.
L289[08:20:42] <vifino> It's like the
ultimate mocking from the rust compiler.
L290[08:21:44] <vifino> 'Oh, you did the
same thing you did before, which I errored at? I'll let you have
it. Just know that your code sux.'
L291[08:21:49] <vifino> - rustc,
probably.
L292[08:25:21] *
vifino shakes fists at viomi
L293[08:25:38] <vifino> s/ts/t/
L294[08:25:38] <MichiBot> <vifino>
shakes fist at viomi
L295[08:25:53] <vifino> Rust hates
me.
L296[08:26:07] <vifino> But somehow my
code compiles.
L297[08:26:18] <vifino> I feel like I just
beat a dragon.
L298[08:33:27] <viomi> Lol.
L299[08:33:34] <viomi> Does this make rust
the dark souls of programming languages?
L300[08:34:35] *
Saphire squints at vifino
L301[08:37:15] <vifino> viomi: Yes.
L302[08:37:40] <vifino> How do I even make
a method to initialize a struct with a trait? :v
L303[08:37:53] <vifino> Trying to make a
.new to initialize the vector in the struct and stuff.
L304[08:39:40] <vifino> oh, :: instead of
.
L305[08:39:44] <vifino> neato.
L306[08:39:46] <viomi> beat me to it
L308[08:39:57] <viomi> it'll make learning
things like rust easier :b
L309[08:40:38] <viomi> they've even got my
favorite game engine on there, lua love~
L310[08:41:00] <vifino> Mebbe.
L311[08:43:20] <vifino> YAY, test works.
:3
L312[08:43:28] <vifino> me iz gud.
L313[08:43:35] <viomi> nice
L315[08:46:56] <viomi> Ah, rust
code.
L316[08:46:58] <viomi> So disgusting to
look at.
L317[08:48:00] <vifino> That's not how you
should encurage me to learn more rust. :I
L318[08:48:16] <viomi> It's my favorite
non-scripting language! lol
L319[08:49:25] <vifino> Option<T> is
nice.
L320[08:49:41] <vifino> Many things I love
from Erlang/Elixir in Rust.
L321[08:49:57] <vifino> Pattern matching
is awesome.
L322[08:58:00] *
Skye picks up Saphire
L323[08:58:08] *
Skye places Saphire on Skye's head
L324[09:00:03] *
Saphire chirps
L325[09:10:54] *
AmandaC climbs up Skye's shirt, trying to get to the
birb
L326[09:11:14] <viomi> lewd
L327[09:11:31] <Skye> meep
L328[09:11:40] <viomi> Oh wait, you didn't
mean actually -up- their shirt. Probably. Unless you did.
L329[09:11:46] *
viomi eyes AmandaC warily.
L330[09:12:11] <g> AmandaC is being a cat,
I think, viomi
L332[09:12:26] <viomi> g: Well I knew that
much ;;
L333[09:12:48] <AmandaC> No comment
further, but yes, g is correct
L334[09:13:07] <g> I mean unless the cat
is gonna climb up Skye's skin
L336[09:13:19] <vifino> ow.
L338[09:13:34] <Skye> Q_Q
L339[09:14:03] <vifino> However, since
cats are a fluid, it might just work.
L342[09:14:57] <vifino> Not quite
related.
L343[09:15:02] <vifino> But it's cats,
alright.
L344[09:15:44] <viomi> cats are always
related.
L345[09:16:04] <AmandaC> You know, maybe
my mind's just in a weird place from the dream I just woke up from,
but that looks like one of those weird photos hetero couples make
to announce a pregnency
L346[09:16:18] <viomi> lol?
L348[09:16:30] <viomi> for some reason I
know exactly what you mean, AmandaC
L349[09:16:45] <g> I've not heard of this
stereotype before
L350[09:17:36] <vifino> ?_?
L353[09:18:33] <viomi> AmandaC, that's
what you meant, right?
L354[09:18:41] <AmandaC> pretty much,
yeah
L355[09:18:46] <g> I have never seen this
before
L357[09:19:28] <viomi> g: never had a
pregnant friend who's ridiculously cliche about it?
L358[09:19:29] <Inari> "Oh you have
split personalities now? congrats"
L359[09:19:37] <g> viomi, nope
L360[09:19:41] <viomi> Oh.
L361[09:19:43] <viomi> Well that's why
:b
L362[09:19:52] <viomi> Inari: rood
L363[09:20:38] <Inari> "I know you've
gained weight, but you don't need to count yourself as two peopl
ebecause of that"
L364[09:20:41] <vifino> Lets hope Rust
likes bitops.
L365[09:20:55] <vifino> Or rather, likes
me using bitops.
L366[09:21:05] <g> "Oh hey, you got a
parasite of your own? Congrats!"
L368[09:23:54]
<Mettaton_Fab> i want food
L369[09:24:06] <AmandaC> too bad, I eated
it all
L370[09:25:42] <vifino> wat. rust doesn't
wanna run my second test???
L371[09:25:54] <AmandaC> No test for
you!
L372[09:26:08] <vifino> I guess.
L373[09:27:07] <vifino> oh, #[cfg(tests)]
made it not use it
L374[09:27:28] <AmandaC> Rust feels like
it wants to become compiled perl, to me
L375[09:27:43] <AmandaC> ( which is why
I've not looked into it )
L376[09:27:55] <viomi> Uhh..
L377[09:28:16] <viomi> Rust is more like
more-advanced and secure C/Go
L378[09:28:26] <viomi> Perl is like.. a
scripting lang
L379[09:28:46] <AmandaC> Rust and perl are
both stupid-complex and esoteric
L380[09:28:49]
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L381[09:29:08] <AmandaC> You don't need
every keyword to be a function to make a language. simplicity is
nice
L382[09:29:44] *
AmandaC cuddles her large Go code base, tho
L383[09:30:02] <vifino> Go is good, me
agrees.
L384[09:30:20] <AmandaC> Rust felt like
complexity for complexity's sake.
L385[09:31:00] <AmandaC> anyway, I've no
interest in starting another language war, so I'll just stop
now.
L386[09:31:09] *
AmandaC curls up against Inari's side, purring softly.
<3
L387[09:31:19] <AmandaC> %choose BotW or
try and code some today
L388[09:31:21] <MichiBot> AmandaC: try and
code some today
L389[09:31:26] <AmandaC> :( Mean
MichiBot
L390[09:31:33] <viomi> l o l
L391[09:31:54] <viomi> %choose propietary
software war or language war
L392[09:31:54] <MichiBot> viomi:
propietary software war
L393[09:32:06] <viomi> Damn, MichiBot,
getting in with the ethics.
L394[09:32:38] <viomi> vifino: ! I didn't
realize you were working on computech. Hype.
L397[09:33:55] <vifino> viomi: Hmm?
L398[09:33:56] <viomi> At least I think it
was computech.
L399[09:34:03] <viomi> The computer mod
for minetest :b
L400[09:34:08] <vifino> Well, yes.
L401[09:34:23] <vifino> But I wasn't aware
that there were anyone even using it.
L402[09:34:31] <vifino> Or even knowing
about it.
L403[09:34:50] <viomi> I like minetest so
I tend to keep an eye out for projects related to it :b
L404[09:35:22] <vifino> Did you ever use
it?
L405[09:35:29] <vifino> Or see it?
L406[09:35:51] <viomi> Nope. I took a
perusal through the code about a month ago but didn't go too
deep.
L407[09:36:45] <vifino> It works, what
else is there to say.
L408[09:36:54] <vifino> It also has fancy
textures.
L409[09:37:18] <viomi> Hey
L410[09:37:18] <vifino> You can run BASIC
and use it to control digilines.
L411[09:37:50] <viomi> what if I made a
language called vLua and all it was was lua except with arrays
starting at 0 and != instead of ~= and some other minor tweaks like
that
L412[09:37:51] <viomi> :u
L413[09:38:26] <vifino> there is LUA
already.
L414[09:38:26] <EnderBot2> Lua*
L415[09:38:28] <vifino> it does
that.
L416[09:38:35] <vifino> LUA, not
Lua.
L417[09:38:35] <EnderBot2> Lua*
L418[09:38:40] <viomi> Lol
L419[09:38:48] <AmandaC> L U A
L420[09:38:51] <viomi> I love that there's
a bot to correct LUA to Lua even though LUA actually exists.
L421[09:38:51] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not
LUA. Name, not an acronym
L422[09:39:03] <Inari> Why does Michibot
want Lua pointers
L424[09:39:26] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not
LUA. Name, not an acronym
L425[09:39:32] <vifino> Fuck you,
EnderBot2.
L426[09:39:36] *
vifino slaps EnderBot2
L427[09:39:37] *
EnderBot2 feeds vifino to the lions
L428[09:39:45] <viomi> lol
L429[09:39:46] <AmandaC> RIP vifino
L430[09:39:58] <AmandaC> He died doing
what he loves, losing wars against bots on IRC.
L431[09:39:59] <vifino> That's okay, they
don't harm me.
L432[09:40:15] <vifino> Too skinny to be
considered food.
L433[09:40:29] <viomi> wait
L434[09:40:30]
<Mettaton_Fab> %inv add Waluigi
L435[09:40:34] <MichiBot> Mettaton_Fab:
Added 'Waluigi' to inventory. I could get some good swings in with
this.
L436[09:40:38] <viomi> vifino, the code is
in all caps on that github
L437[09:40:43] <viomi> Do you have to code
in all caps? :L
L438[09:40:50] <vifino> Of course.
L439[09:41:46] *
AmandaC contemplates the meaning of the number 4
L440[09:43:12] <Izaya> 2*2, 2^2
L441[09:43:23] <Izaya> . . . .
L442[09:43:29]
<Mettaton_Fab> 2+2
L444[09:43:31] <Izaya> food for
thought
L445[09:43:58] <vifino> thought of
food.
L446[09:44:56]
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L447[09:45:09] <Gavin> hello
L448[09:45:20] <AmandaC> Greetings Mortal.
Are you ready for pie?
L449[09:45:45] <Gavin> PiE!
L450[09:45:57] <Gavin> Now I'm
hungry.
L451[09:45:59] <Gavin> I blame you.
L452[09:46:03] <gamax92> ... oops
L453[09:46:10] <Gavin> ;D
L454[09:46:22] <gamax92> I left out all of
the opcode descriptions
L455[09:46:48] <AmandaC> gamax92: were you
able to see anything wrong with the IRQ handling? (Assuming you
looked, if not that's fine and I'll continue poking from this side
)\
L456[09:47:06] <Gavin> btw, does anyone
happen to know why I can't craft the chunkloader upgrade in ftb
infinity lite 1.10?
L457[09:47:46] <benny-> ftb likes to
disable mod chunkloaders to force people to use the ftb
chunkloading
L458[09:47:52] <gamax92> It looked okay
from when I was going through that stuff but yet to test, made the
core into a 65C02 core
L459[09:47:55] *
Saphire rawr
L460[09:48:07] *
gamax92 pets Saphire
L461[09:48:14] *
Saphire murrrs
L462[09:48:43] <viomi> vifino: I'd say
so.
L463[09:48:55] <vifino> \o/
L464[09:49:01] <AmandaC> Er.
L465[09:49:05] <Gavin> Ah, I looked in teh
configs and couldn't find anything that looked like it was
disabling it...
L466[09:50:10] <benny-> i guess they use
minetweaker to disable it
L467[09:50:21] <benny-> so take a look on
that config
L468[09:51:27] <Gavin> Ahhah, thanks
L470[09:52:34] <AmandaC> er wait, no
L471[09:52:42] <AmandaC> It's def reading
NMI
L472[09:55:11] <Gavin> yup, there it
is
L473[09:59:38] <Izaya> duuuuuuuuuude
L474[09:59:43] <Izaya> this is
impossible
L475[09:59:57] <Izaya> my Windows on my
desktop has an uptime of 6 days 9 hours 20 minutes
L476[10:00:17] <AmandaC> gamax92: did you
touch anything related to the RTC since the last jar you sent? I'm
definately writing to $E05E and it seems to be causing an NMI
instead of an IRQ
L477[10:02:09] <gamax92> Uhh, will look
into it soon. On phone atm though.
L478[10:02:42] <AmandaC> sure, in the mean
time I'll try writing to $E05F and see if that causes the IRQ on
the version I have
L479[10:04:48] <AmandaC> nope, seems to
also be causing an NMI
L480[10:07:13] <gamax92> What value are
you writing to there?
L481[10:08:21] <AmandaC> $03
L482[10:08:57] <viomi> Izaya: only 6
days?
L483[10:09:01] <gamax92> :|
L484[10:09:14] <gamax92> Well yes that
will cause an NMI
L485[10:09:16] <Izaya> viomi: I expect
Windows to crash within 2
L486[10:09:36] <viomi> Well, that's a good
expectation to have.
L487[10:09:45] <Izaya> 02:09:29 up 106
days, 10:30, 0 users, load average: 0.25, 0.09, 0.02 is nothing
unexpected on my servers
L488[10:09:47] <gamax92> err ... ignore
that, forgetting my own design.
L489[10:09:54] <Izaya> but Windows
surviving a full 6 days is unheard of
L490[10:10:24] <Katie> I've had weeks of
uptime on my desktop... and that's not unusual.
L491[10:10:45] <AmandaC> gamax92: It's
causing an NMI weather I write to $E05E or $E05F, if the
"Component Read $FFFA/B" message is accurage
L492[10:10:50] <Katie> Usually the only
reason I reboot, is because I have to for some install
L493[10:10:59] <Izaya> You're literally a
practitioner of dark magic though.
L494[10:11:48] <Katie> hey :( It's not
dark...
L495[10:12:00] <Izaya> s/dark magic/deep
magic/g
L496[10:12:00] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
You're literally a practitioner of deep magic though.
L497[10:12:05] <Izaya> Happy?
L498[10:12:13] <Katie> A little.. :P
L499[10:12:43] <Izaya> The point is,
between the ... interesting set of software, my unreliable
hardware, and Windows being Windows, getting to 3 days is an
achievement
L500[10:12:54] <Izaya> 6 is ridiculous for
me
L501[10:13:22] <Izaya> (My hardware is
unreliable because if I max-load both GPUs the power supply mildly
overloads and the computer resets. Fun times)
L502[10:14:37] <vifino> add more power
supplies
L503[10:14:39] ⇦
Quits: Alex_hawks (~Alex_hawk@110.141.145.176) (Quit:
Leaving)
L504[10:14:44] <S3> Hey guys
L505[10:15:09] <gamax92> Hey S3
L506[10:15:10] <S3> Good my phone
connected to irccloud
L508[10:15:21] <gamax92> No this is just a
simulation
L509[10:16:21] <S3> Amanda: whschya
doing?
L510[10:16:21] <gamax92> You're actually
practically dead on a life support machine being feed a simulation
of your life
L511[10:16:32] <S3> Wow typoes
L512[10:17:38] <S3> Amanda got super Mario
bros working yet?
L514[10:17:54] <S3> Autocorrect is
dumb
L515[10:18:17] <S3> It removed the c in
amandac
L516[10:18:25] *
AmandaC pings on both
L517[10:18:46] <Izaya> Tonight: vodka
& orange
L518[10:19:25] <Izaya> probably not good
on a sunday night
L519[10:19:40] <Izaya> fortunayely
L520[10:19:47] <Izaya> it's monday
morning
L521[10:19:54] <Izaya> have a good day
everyone
L522[10:20:00] <Izaya> or don't if you
want
L523[10:20:10] <Izaya> I'll seeyas at some
later point
L524[10:24:50] <S3> gamax92: what do you
think about an ilegal opcide that sets the location of the stack on
the 6502?
L525[10:25:12] <S3> so that you could
write FORTH / C runtime libraries easier and run them more
performantly.
L526[10:25:17] <gamax92> 65c816 has one,
no?
L527[10:25:30] <S3> I haven't used the 816
much
L528[10:25:31] <gamax92> Put that in your
opcodes
L529[10:25:41] <S3> sounds nice
though
L530[10:25:50] <S3> because C suffers a
lot on the 652
L531[10:25:52] <S3> 6502*
L532[10:27:26] <gamax92> A accumulator and
B accumulator and C? Accumulator. Movable stack page and movable
direct page, program bank and data bank registers, emulation and
native modes, long addressing modes, configurable memory
sizes
L533[10:27:34] ***
cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L534[10:30:04] <gamax92> wow it sounds so
great until you learn the processor does not have a 24bit address
bus but instead something that acts like a separate 8 + 16 bit bus
with 16bit wraparounds and separate program/data fetch
locations
L536[10:31:50] <S3> Yeah the 816 address
bus is whack
L537[10:34:40] <AmandaC> gamax92: just
downloaded the Thistle source and built a jar from master, still
happens. just as a datapoint
L538[10:35:44] <S3> Poor pandas
L539[10:36:16] <S3> Hana why you break
things
L540[10:36:28] <S3> Gamax*
L541[10:36:37] <S3> Damn auto
correct
L542[10:37:04] <S3> Lol that's hilarious
though. now AmandaC will call you Hana from now on
L543[10:38:25] <AmandaC> nah, I actually
have some respect for gamax92. :P
L544[10:39:44] *
Katie sets an auto replace for gamax92 -> Hana
L545[10:43:08] <gamax92> alright, on
computer.
L546[10:44:02] <gamax92> need to finish
the 65c02 though, left out two new instructions and ALL of the
opcode descriptions
L547[10:44:03] <gamax92> oops
L548[10:44:47] <S3> AmandaC: aww, so mean
:P
L549[10:52:49] <AmandaC> gamax92: either
my loading of the addresses into the vector space is wrong, or IRQs
are just broken
L550[10:52:59] <AmandaC> ( as well as NMIs
)
L551[10:54:38] <AmandaC> Near as I can
tell, my IRQ is never being jumped to, because the debug write to
$E420 never happens
L552[10:54:49] <AmandaC> but I'm low on
spoons today, so I'll leave you to it. :P
L553[11:06:22] ***
cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
L554[11:07:56] <vifino> man, i really
wanna do the rust thing without the stdlib for this library, but I
can't fucking figure out how to allocate a byte array
otherwise.
L555[11:16:31] ⇦
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connection)
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L557[11:36:46] <payonel> o/
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L559[11:42:36] <vifino> \o
L560[11:45:21] <vifino> How's ocvm,
payonel?
L561[11:46:10] <Gavin> has anyone
implemented anything like tmux or screen?
L562[11:46:45] <Gavin> I want vim and tmux
:D
L563[11:47:03] ***
cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L564[11:47:50] <vifino> vim isn't really
happening.
L565[11:48:01] <vifino> Escape isn't
passed through.
L566[11:48:10] <Gavin> yea, would have to
use a different key
L567[11:48:39] <payonel> Gavin: i built
the term library to support windowing, and mpmxyz built a
multi-window application for it. but i believe (not certain) the
multi-window work wasnt ready for the public
L568[11:48:54] <Gavin> Ah
L569[11:49:17] <gamax92> okay, put all the
opcode descriptions back, and kept single instruction opcodes at
the top
L570[11:49:20] <Gavin> I keep wanting to
be editing a program and then have a lua interpreter up to 'test'
things out in
L571[11:49:27] <payonel> it is a hard
problem for openos to solve because i try to keep the memory load
minimal -- and i also dont want to "promise" term api
that's just going to keep changing when i try to optimize
L572[11:49:38] <Gavin> yea
L573[11:49:48] <Gavin> maybe I should just
use two computers instead...
L574[11:50:09] <gamax92> alright time to
test IRQs and NMIs
L575[11:50:13] <Gavin> my desire for vim
is mostly that I keep typing vim movement keys into the edit app...
lol
L576[11:51:01] <Gavin> I wonder if I could
make a modification to the edit app that say I press ctrl+a, then I
can type move keys, and then i goes back to the normal mode
L577[11:51:14] <Gavin> 'cause I'm too lazy
to move my hand over to the arrow keys :P
L578[11:51:24] <payonel> vifino: the
coloring issue you saw (i.e. no color in tmux) was due to my ansi
code trying to use 24bit color sequences
L579[11:51:25] <gamax92> also I just
noticed that BRK doesn't set the B flag ...
L580[11:51:36] <payonel> which is not
standard and not supported in tmux (nor gnu screen)
L581[11:52:01] <vifino> boo.
L583[11:52:28] <vifino> yay!
L585[11:52:36] <gamax92> need to pull this
into Thistle as well
L586[11:53:56] <payonel> anyways, pull
latest and colors should be good (mostly, there are a few that
don't quite work, like 0xCCB6C0
L587[11:54:03] <payonel> )
L588[11:55:04] <viomi> I just set up my
nvim :>
L589[11:57:17] <payonel> gamax92: how do
map rgb to the oc 256 color map? (i.e. where is that logic in
ocemu)
L590[12:01:46] <MajGenRelativity> Izaya, I
know you're my friend :)
L591[12:04:48] <gamax92> payonel: ocemu's
version of it is not known to be correct
L593[12:07:57] <payonel> gamax92: well it
works really well
L594[12:08:14] <gamax92> but what if it's
not correct?
L595[12:08:39] <gamax92> would you rather
do the conversion yourself in a way that will be correct or take my
potentially buggy code and have two buggy emulators?
L596[12:08:46] <payonel> for color i'm
going for "good enough" to be honest. but thanks for the
oc link, i'll review that
L597[12:08:53] <payonel> haha
L598[12:08:55] <payonel> i'll review
oc
L599[12:21:32] <gamax92> payonel: that
chart does seem like what I remember atleast, I did end up making
my own before but not sure where it's ran off to
L600[12:31:24] <gamax92> ~w gpu
L603[12:33:17] <gamax92> it's more useful
to me than that graph though cause it shows me when the color
transitions occur
L605[12:39:41] <gamax92> haha
L606[12:39:45] <gamax92> ocemu has correct
color conversions
L607[12:41:47] <gamax92> comparison
between palettes may not be correct but atleast the RGB 685 stuff
is fine
L608[12:46:42] <gamax92> choosing between
palette and rgb 685 also seems to be accurate in ocemu
L609[12:51:58] <gamax92> uhhh ...
hmm
L610[12:52:06] <gamax92> AmandaC: yeah
it's broken here
L611[12:52:26] <gamax92> "[Thistle]
[Cpu] NMI interrupt!" wanted an IRQ
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L619[12:58:34] <gamax92> oh, oops
L620[13:00:04] <AmandaC> oops?
L621[13:00:10] <gamax92> AmandaC: should
of occured to me that's what I did wrong when you said
"Component Read $FFFA"
L622[13:00:25] <AmandaC> ah, heh
L623[13:00:39] <gamax92> yep fixed
L624[13:03:01] <gamax92> AmandaC: alright
pushed fix
L625[13:03:25] <AmandaC> will take a look
shortly, currently debugging my format(UUID) functions
L627[13:06:05] <S3> gotta remember how to
run stuff in the background in OC
L628[13:07:09] <S3> something about
passing null or -1 or somethingf to sleep or something
L629[13:07:26] <gamax92> wot
L630[13:11:29] <gamax92> S3: what to do
about STP and WAI?
L631[13:11:37] <gamax92> HCF?
L632[13:12:07] <payonel> gamax92: i was
afk, thanks for the added info
L633[13:12:08] <S3> gamax92: STP is
dangerous on an NMOS :D
L634[13:12:15] <S3> itl lose all of the
contents of the cpu registers
L636[13:12:18] <payonel> and i'm afk
again, laters
L637[13:13:15] <S3> gamax92: can you place
make HCF actually HCF?!!
L639[13:13:17] <gamax92> S3: yeah but not
like you could really use them anyway until a reset
L640[13:13:33] <S3> please*
L641[13:13:40] <gamax92> S3: on the
redpower2 computer STP did make the computer catch fire
L642[13:13:41] <S3> that'd be funny
L644[13:13:47] <S3> I remember
L645[13:13:56] <S3> I wanted to port
corewar
L646[13:14:06] <S3> and make it so the
instruction to execute to win was stp
L647[13:14:14] <S3> losers computer caught
firer
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L652[13:24:39]
<MGR> Ok, so
I'm having an issue with GERTi
L654[13:25:14] <vifino> Stating the
problem helps.
L656[13:25:36]
<MGR> The
gateway refuses to see any incoming messages, even though they show
up in dmesg
L657[13:26:06]
<MGR> line
238 in GERTiGateway.lua fails to fire
L659[13:26:53] <S3> who wrote the network
package?
L660[13:26:54]
<MGR> I
inserted a print statement between lines 189 and 190 to see if the
OPENROUTE function was getting locked up somewhere, and that
fired
L661[13:26:58] <S3> for OC for
openos
L662[13:27:10] <S3> I'm curious if it has
a reasonable api for me to just "create interfaces"
L663[13:28:00]
<MGR> Also,
there are no errors, and I checked under /tmp and there is no
event.log
L664[13:28:16] <S3> it looks like the
network stack package actually puts down stuff
L665[13:28:21] <S3> for the boot
L666[13:29:04] <CompanionCube> iirc the
'network' package is Magi6k's
L667[13:29:21] <CompanionCube>
s/package/disk/
L668[13:29:21] <MichiBot>
<CompanionCube> iirc the 'network' disk is Magi6k's
L669[13:29:38] <S3> I thought so
L670[13:31:08] <viomi> network package
doesn't really work though..
L671[13:31:12] <viomi> :u
L672[13:31:48] <vifino> It used to.
L673[13:37:56] <S3> vifino: why not?
L674[13:38:00] <S3> what broke
L675[13:40:21] <Vexatos> so uh
L676[13:40:43] <Vexatos> Anyone got an
idea what one could use for radio antennae in Minecraft... other
than the rather bulky iron blocks? :P
L677[13:41:06] <Ashindigo_> Iron
bars?
L678[13:42:07] <Vexatos> mhm
L679[13:42:29] <Vexatos> I was planning on
having several tiers of antenna, increasing the signal size
L680[13:42:49] <Vexatos> Might just end up
having a new block for that, eh
L681[13:43:03] <Vexatos> Something that
fits OC :X
L682[13:43:15] <Forecaster> wooden
fences!
L683[13:44:53]
<MGR> Anyone
have any ideas about my issue?
L684[13:45:02] *
Vexatos pokes Sangar >:D
L685[13:46:01] <S3> something definmately
isnt working with the network package..
L686[13:46:31] <S3> Vexatos: do you have
immersive engineering?
L687[13:46:37] <S3> with the addons
L688[13:46:46] <Vexatos> I don't play bad
mods :P
L689[13:46:52] <S3> you cold try the
extension post and make it super tall with cables
L691[13:46:58] <S3> it's a great
mod!
L692[13:47:12] <S3> I use it specifically
for the telephone poles
L693[13:47:21] <S3> can't live without
em
L694[13:47:22] <Ashindigo_> IE !=
bad
L695[13:47:37] <Vexatos> Yea apart from
the coke oven and balst furnace being direct Railcraft ripoffs
deliberately being 5% more efficient than the Railcraft ones just
to give people a reason to use them :X
L696[13:47:55] <Vexatos> If that is not
bad design then I don't know what is
L698[13:48:33] <S3> could be
coincidental
L699[13:48:37] <Vexatos> It is not
L700[13:48:43] <S3> how dio you
know?
L701[13:48:51] <Vexatos> Because they are
literally the same machine
L702[13:48:54] <Vexatos> just 5%
faster
L703[13:49:07] <S3> anyone could have come
up with that though
L704[13:49:12] <S3> maybe they did it so
you don't need railcraft
L705[13:49:24] <Vexatos> They did it for
that reason, but they could just have made it as fast
L706[13:49:34] <Vexatos> and not a tiny
bit faster just to screw with people
L707[13:49:55] <Vexatos> It's the very
epitome of the good ol' power creep
L708[13:50:06] <Vexatos> (not to mention a
certain 8192 RF/t generator in IE)
L709[13:50:18] <AmandaC> gamax92: I'm
still seeing NMIs from the RTC when I should be getting IRQs
L710[13:50:35] <Vexatos> AmandaC, I read
RTC and think RotaryCraft
L711[13:50:46] <vifino> SHAME
L713[13:51:44] <Vexatos> Anyways
L714[13:51:49] <Vexatos> OC is not an IE
addon :P
L715[13:51:52] <S3> where is majik
L716[13:51:59] <Vexatos> "majik"
>_>
L717[13:52:03] <S3> yeah I typoed
L718[13:52:30] <S3> I'm trying to figure
out why network doesn't work anymore in openos
L719[13:53:14] <S3> or if I should just
make a new network api
L720[13:53:23] <S3> but it'd be nice if I
can just use this
L721[13:54:05] <Vexatos> Would be nice if
you'd fix it :P
L722[13:54:10] <S3> if it's just IP that
is broken then I don't care at all :D
L723[13:54:28] <Vexatos> thanks for not
caring about bugs >_>
L724[13:54:34] <S3> lol lol
L725[13:54:50] <S3> I'm just kidding, but
no I am curious if it's a low level thing or not
L726[13:55:01] <S3> or if it's more just
IP being broken
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L732[13:59:39] <AmandaC> bah, that's no
good!
L734[14:01:39] <S3> modem_message is
triggered
L735[14:01:58] <flint> hi, is here anyone
who knows how to craft an internet software disk in 1.7.10?
L736[14:02:01] <S3> Vexatos: it looks like
the stack underneath works, since modem_message is receieved when
using ping..
L737[14:02:27] <viomi> flint: Internet
software disk..? Do you mean an internet card, maybe?
L738[14:02:54] <viomi> There's also a
network software disk but it doesn't seem to work on the newest
versions of OpenComputers.
L739[14:03:04] <S3> so it's more like the
remote system doesn't know to respond to it
L740[14:03:22] <flint> i mean this floppy
disk with the software like a driver which is needed
L741[14:03:47] <gamax92> AmandaC: I tested
both timers and NMI's IRQs
L742[14:04:00] <gamax92> i had my
interrupt handler write out NMI and IRQ to the screen
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L744[14:06:20] <AmandaC> NMI is $FFFA/B
and IRQ is $FFFE/F right?
L745[14:06:27] <gamax92> believe so
yes
L746[14:06:38] <gamax92> AmandaC: you
should be seeing "Memory Read $FFFA" instead of
"Component Read $FFFA" right?
L747[14:06:54] <AmandaC> don't have that
one on, will turn it on and restart
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L749[14:08:32] <S3> dafyq
L750[14:08:35] <S3> dafuq*
L751[14:11:56] <AmandaC> Okay, can't turn
on memory reads, as my busyloop after setting up the IRQs and such
causes a massive spam of "Memory Read $XXXX"
L752[14:12:11] <AmandaC> unless there's a
better way to do that, than "busyloop it"
L753[14:12:28] <S3> Vexatos: this api is
scary :(
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L755[14:14:43] <flint> so is there anyone
who knows how to craft the internet software card? (the
driver)
L756[14:15:35] <AmandaC> flint: scrench +
OpenOS floppy will cycle through the other loot disks
L757[14:15:53] <AmandaC> ( in 1.6.2 anyway
)
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L760[14:21:13] <flint> everytime i try
this the game crashes :/
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L762[14:23:52] <fingercomp> The internet
card software floppy was removed a long time ago. All programs and
libraries from that floppy are included in OpenOS.
L763[14:25:02] <Temia> That's interesting,
flint. Are you using a release or dev version of OC?
L764[14:25:22] <flint> we are playing an
old version of ferret business, the card is available and i need
this installed for installing oppm
L765[14:25:48] <flint> its ferret business
0.1.4, we are going to update it in a few weeks or so
L766[14:26:25] <flint> thats the filename:
OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.6.0.5-beta.3-universal.jar
L767[14:26:37] <fingercomp> oh, you are
using a really old version of OpenComputers...
L768[14:26:59] <flint> since which version
is the library included?
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L770[14:31:51] <Inari> %inv add
sleepiness
L771[14:31:55] <MichiBot> Inari: Added
'sleepiness' to inventory. I could get some good swings in with
this.
L772[14:32:13] <Inari> AmandaC: CAn't you
like
L773[14:32:18] <Inari> set a timer and
wati for it :P
L774[14:32:35] <fingercomp> flint: since
1.6.0-rc.1
L775[14:33:01] <flint> okay, thanks
L776[14:33:31] <flint> maybe we are going
to update it earlier then everything else of the modpack
L777[14:41:52] <gamax92> wtf ...
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L779[14:53:09] <S3> I feel like rewriting
the network package
L780[14:53:16] <AmandaC> gamax92: ?
L782[14:53:19] <S3> to be a bit more..
friendly and versatile
L783[14:54:26] <gamax92> if I run this
then the interrupts appear to be working, IRQ gets printed after a
second, NMI after another second, and then it returns to the
eeprom
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L786[15:11:06] <AmandaC> gamax92: then
it's a bug in the RTC: changing it to trigger both on IRQ makes it
do NMI then return to EEPRom
L788[15:15:37] <gamax92> yeah there's
something screwy going on, I did IRQ only, it prints out IRQ and
then returned to eeprom which doesn't make sense since the nmi is
what sets $81
L789[15:15:47] <gamax92> I feel like RTI
is broken
L790[15:16:08] <AmandaC> thank god, I was
starting to wonder if I was going crazy here. :P
L791[15:19:05] <AmandaC> I mean, I know my
code's much uglier and generated, but it should still ultimately be
poking the same values in the same places and getting the same
result
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L793[15:22:04] <gamax92> and now it's not
glitching again
L794[15:22:45] <AmandaC> \o/ hisenbugs are
the best
L795[15:22:47] <AmandaC> \o/ hisenbugs are
the worst
L796[15:23:32] <vifino> heisenbugs*?
L797[15:23:50] <S3> you know, it's kind of
a dumb idea, but it'd be nice if every network card in Oc had a
firmware eeprom you could program, for example you could write an
ethernet driver and store it in the firmware
L798[15:23:56] <vifino> maybe hisenbug is
a thing, i dunno.
L799[15:24:02] <S3> Vexatos: ^
L800[15:24:30] <vifino> viomi: rustfmt has
some weird ideas about code style.
L801[15:25:08] <S3> vifino: you say weird,
but I use FreeBSD style(9)
L802[15:25:16] <S3> most people think that
is hideous
L803[15:25:51] <S3> but instead it's not
meant to be pretty, efficient and verbose instead. instead
L804[15:26:57] <vifino> I don't know what
style I follow, but it's close.
L805[15:27:08] <vifino> Function calls
differ, i also put the braces on the same line.
L806[15:27:17] <vifino>
s/calls/definitions/
L807[15:27:17] <MichiBot> <vifino>
Function definitions differ, i also put the braces on the same
line.
L808[15:28:09] <gamax92> the glitch
happens when I don't slow the cpu down :/
L809[15:28:19] <vifino> needs more
fasts.
L810[15:29:14] <AmandaC> gamax92: I was
going to suggest that might be it, but it seems you found out
already
L811[15:30:39] <AmandaC> gamax92: could
there be a small window of time that two OC thread pool threads are
trying to execute stuff?
L812[15:30:43] <gamax92> but like ... the
code is organized as (set up timers and loop) (irq code) (nmi
code), nmi code has the sta $81, but also a bunch of terminal
output stuff that is seeingly skipped
L813[15:32:58] ***
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L814[15:37:04] <gamax92> AmandaC: oh nvm,
it's a bug with the test rom
L815[15:37:50] <gamax92> the interrupt
handler clobbers A which if the interrupt occurred right between
the lda and cmp then it compares against the wrong value
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L820[15:40:37] <AmandaC> sanity check!
commit eea4f3ff6da7725fbeabff3b3f35d15fd3141c49 is what I'm
running
L821[15:41:09] <gamax92> oh uhh, the boot
loader isn't designed to handle the bootable returning
L822[15:41:21] <gamax92> only stuff by
load atm
L823[15:41:41] <AmandaC> I see. WEll,
regardless, it's still only spitting out NMI
L824[15:42:29] <gamax92> Well I got two
IRQ messages out of that file I posted, dunno
L825[15:42:33] <Ashindigo_> %stab LCD
screen
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damage
L827[15:43:20] <AmandaC> so, either a bug
in your assembler, or in ca65
L828[15:43:38] <AmandaC> ( Assumign load
does what I thnk it does )
L829[15:43:46] <gamax92> load loads a file
from the filesystem
L830[15:43:50] <gamax92> into $0200
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L832[15:44:22] <AmandaC> asm file or
compiled output?
L833[15:44:26] <gamax92> compiled
L834[15:44:30] <AmandaC> ah
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L839[15:49:48] <AmandaC> gamax92: what's
the syntax for load?
L840[15:50:05] <gamax92> load
filename
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L842[15:51:39] <AmandaC> And it'll look in
/filename on each drive, I assume?
L843[15:53:18] <gamax92> nope, only the
active one atm :/
L844[15:53:54] <AmandaC> "active
one"?
L845[15:54:01] <gamax92> whatever the boot
search set last
L846[15:54:39] <AmandaC> ah, so in this
case, the tmpfs. \o/
L847[15:55:10] <gamax92> trying to go
optimize the boot rom down a bit to get some more space
L848[15:55:55] <gamax92> only have 352
bytes left
L849[15:56:42] <AmandaC> blargh.
L850[15:56:59] <AmandaC> Does load use the
same code as boot, bar the uuid bug shown in my gif?
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L852[15:57:59] <gamax92> load reuses the
loading code from the booting stuff yes, (incase it wasn't obvious
you also have to type run after the load)
L853[15:57:59] <AmandaC> that's all I can
really think of that would explain why I'm getting and endless
stream of NMIs
L854[15:58:15] <gamax92> the load command
does the boot itself however
L855[16:01:01] <AmandaC> idk what could be
wrong then, but I'm pretty drained from some IRL stuff going on, so
I think I'll resume my stabbing tomorrow.
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L859[16:29:51] <vifino> viomi: Lifetimes
haunt me. ;_;
L860[16:30:07] <Inari> %pet/qqtest
L861[16:30:10] <Inari> Fail
L862[16:30:22] <vifino> very fail.
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L864[16:31:02] <viomi> vifino: womp
womp
L865[16:31:12] <vifino> ?
L866[16:31:13] <Inari> %pet Kyubey
L867[16:31:13] *
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health!
L868[16:31:18] <vifino> oh, the
sound.
L869[16:31:40] <Skye> Inari,
OHNONONONONONONONONONONONONONON
L870[16:32:13] <AmandaC> Inari: How
appropriate that magical girls grow up to...
L871[16:32:16] <Inari> I wonder how QB
tastes
L872[16:32:47] <Inari> AmandaC: they grow
up to toshiba's? D:
L873[16:33:52] <AmandaC> Inari: not sure
if I'm connecting that name right
L874[16:34:27] <AmandaC> But I found that
line to be very amusing in madoka
L875[16:34:39] <Inari> line?
L876[16:34:52] <AmandaC> I'll tell you
elsewhere, since it's a minor spoiler
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L881[16:54:02] <gamax92> every time I want
to use an if in ca65 it just yells at me "Constant expression
expected"
L882[16:54:07] <gamax92> all of it's
examples in the doc do this too
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L896[17:29:34] <AmandaC> I know it's off
topic, but does anybody have any experience with consuming power
from mods? I've got an idea for a small mod to scratch an
itch
L897[17:30:06] <AmandaC> And I think power
will be acceptable to "balance" it
L898[17:32:59] <AmandaC> Rf to be specific
since it's a small personal mod I'm not that concerned about
others
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<Kodos>
Anyone know how to nuke my Journeymap data on SMP
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L930[19:45:04] <Skye> Night
L931[19:55:02] <AmandaC> Kodos: it's under
the Minecraft folder, not under saves
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L933[20:10:50] <Katie> @Kodos ^
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L939[20:27:39] <gamax92> hey S3?
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L943[20:32:57] <gamax92> %lua
256+32-8
L944[20:32:59] <MichiBot> 280
L945[20:36:20] <S3> Gamax92: what's up, I
was driving
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L950[21:14:07] <RavenBoy> Is it possible
to create private chats for this client?
L951[21:15:50] *
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L952[21:16:23] <Saphire> RavenBoy: try
/query Username ?
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L954[21:19:56] <gamax92> S3: oh hi
L955[21:20:07] <Gavin> how is memory usage
done in opencomputers? Is there a way to see how much memory a
computer is using?
L957[21:21:04] <gamax92> Gavin:
computer.freeMemory computer.totalMemory
L958[21:22:30] <Gavin> I've been looking
through the APIs on the wiki at oc.cil.li, is there a way to
differentiate what APIs are base apis available in microcontrollers
and drones and which are from openos?
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L961[21:26:08] <IzayaXMPP> There's a wiki
page on it
L963[21:27:57] <Gavin> Ahhah, I missed
that.
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<Kodos>
Thanks
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L976[22:06:37] <payonel> Gavin:
[gs]etBootAddress is deprecated, i should remove that from the
wiki
L977[22:08:14] <gamax92> payonel: the
computer doesn't boot if you remove the eeprom very early in the
boot process but also after init.lua has been loaded
L978[22:08:26] <gamax92> plaza fix
L979[22:08:39] <payonel> oh
interesting
L980[22:10:04] <gamax92> and also why does
openos take forever to boot up
L981[22:13:10]
<TYKUHN2>
What was that one mod that added all the foods?
L982[22:13:32] <gamax92> pam
harvestcraft?
L983[22:13:33]
<TYKUHN2>
All the foods
L984[22:13:34] <Temia> Pam's
Harvestcraft
L985[22:13:45] <gamax92> food plus?
L986[22:13:54]
<TYKUHN2>
Does it include xyz?
L987[22:14:22] <Temia> Pardon?
L988[22:14:47]
<TYKUHN2> I
wonder what MineChem turns emeralds into...
L989[22:15:15] <gamax92> JustCoffee, is
just a cup of coffee
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L991[22:15:36]
<TYKUHN2> I
want an accurate medical system but it doesn't exist
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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L993[22:16:18] <Temia> Probably because
it'd be impossible to implement.
L994[22:16:36] <Temia> Maybe Dward
Fortress would be up your alley. >.>
L995[22:25:37] <viomi> Sleep time
L996[22:25:42] <viomi> Goodnight beautiful
people
L997[22:25:49]
<TYKUHN2>
Some people think they can outsmart me
L998[22:25:51]
<TYKUHN2>
Maybe.
L999[22:26:00]
<TYKUHN2>
But I have yet to find one who can outsmart bullet.
L1000[22:26:06] <Temia> I think I'll just
leave you be.
L1001[22:26:12]
<TYKUHN2> Hehe. Cry some more ?
L1002[22:26:12] <gamax92> hey Temia
L1003[22:26:21] <Temia> Mu?
L1004[22:26:45] <gamax92> err brb, oven
is beeping ...
L1005[22:26:47] *
viomi uses Temia's tail fluff as a pillow. So sleepy..
L1006[22:26:48] <AmandaC> TYK: Are you
bullying someone who's using voice chat on Discord? That's not
cool.
L1007[22:27:28] <Temia> AmandaC, no, I
think he has lost all clarity and can only speak in memes
now.
L1008[22:27:41] <AmandaC> Temia: so, same
old same old.
L1009[22:27:47] <Temia> Pretty
much.
L1010[22:27:57] <viomi> %pet
AmandaC
L1011[22:28:01] *
MichiBot brushes AmandaC with shrugs. AmandaC recovers 1
health!
L1012[22:28:07] <Kodos> Temia, y u no
SS13
L1013[22:28:10] *
AmandaC nods sagely, goes off to try and sleep, since she's too
tired to continue toying with her little mod idea
L1014[22:28:21] <gamax92> payonel: what
if there was ocemu levels of debug logging for oc?
L1015[22:28:34] <Temia> I have like a
million other things going on at once.
L1016[22:28:49] <AmandaC> Kodos: that
doesn't play well with wine, from my limited toying.
L1017[22:29:09] <Temia> Plus if I SS13ed
now, I'd probably end up being an Ar tonelico or FFXIV
character.
L1018[22:29:26]
<TYKUHN2> Temia you may have outsmartted
me, but can you outsmart bullet? >:)
L1019[22:29:28] <Temia> And Nashu
Mhakaracca is like the third-last person you want working
toxins.
L1020[22:29:40] <gamax92> ...
L1021[22:29:42] <AmandaC> BYOND does
dark, nasty, things to the MS Script system
L1022[22:29:58] <Temia> That too,
yes.
L1023[22:30:15] <Temia> Though my laptop
has Windows so it's not quite as limiting of a factor.
L1024[22:30:19] <AmandaC> ah.
L1025[22:30:40] *
AmandaC has a gaming computer, which she keeps around to have
windows on, but she suspects that wouldn't play well from a 10ft
experience.
L1026[22:31:05] <AmandaC> ( I mostly use
it for running games from Steam Big Picture mode, and running my
Plex server )
L1027[22:31:11] <AmandaC> anyway, I'm
very tired, so night night
L1028[22:31:21] *
AmandaC curls up against Inari's side, purrs softly at the
warmth
L1029[22:31:22] <Temia> It's a gaming
laptop I got in the mail as a birthday present so I know how you
feel >.>
L1030[22:31:24]
<Idiot>
AmandaC would it play well from a 600ft experience?
L1031[22:31:26] <Temia> Anywho,
nini.
L1032[22:31:46]
<Idiot>
Or a LEO experience? ?
L1033[22:32:05] *
Temia has contemplated streaming from it so she can remain at her
workstation, but as a gaming laptop it actually outdoes her
resolution too :T
L1034[22:32:06]
<Idiot>
I'm waiting for MC to load
L1035[22:32:34] <gamax92> Temia: what
resolution?
L1036[22:33:25] <Temia> 1080p as opposed
to my workstation's 2x 1680x1050.
L1037[22:33:40] <gamax92> well, not too
bad atleast
L1038[22:34:08] <Temia> Yeah...
L1039[22:34:50] <payonel> gamax92:
logging levels are often helpful, definitely a worthy improvement.
most of my logging i do by disabling ocemu debug and passing cprint
to my vm env
L1040[22:35:20] <gamax92> well that is
partially why all of ocemu's logging goes through
"cprint"
L1041[22:35:34] <gamax92> so that you can
easily selectively enable/disable it
L1042[22:35:51] <payonel> well i meant
was...that is sufficient for me
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L1044[22:39:10] <gamax92> payonel: openos
does do a bunch of weird stuff on boot though
L1045[22:39:46] <gamax92> like
filesystem.list("bin") gets called 33 times at boot
L1046[22:40:18] <gamax92> many filenames
are passed through unicode.isWide even though they are not intended
and never go to the screen
L1048[22:40:25] <payonel> the slow down
is loading /bin/sh and /lib/term -- everything else imo is
fine
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L1050[22:41:16] <gamax92> several of the
same strings get passed through unicode.isWide multiple times in a
row
L1051[22:41:46]
<Idiot>
Time to optimize lib term?
L1052[22:41:50] <payonel> yeah, that's
true! i noticed that too when implementing the fs component for my
vm. it's due to some legacy code (to be fair) about how paths are
resolved
L1053[22:41:58] <gamax92> like
unicode.isWide set
LS_COLORS="{FILE=0xFFFFFF,DIR=0x66CCFF,LINK=0xFFAA00,['*.lua']=0x00FF00}",
but 78 times
L1054[22:42:42]
<Idiot>
Amanda that's not very nice
L1055[22:44:24] <payonel> gamax92: yeah,
i have it on my todo list to clean some of that up
L1056[22:45:12] <payonel> gamax92: the
balance always goes back to "do it once and cache" or
"have more runtime memory available"
L1057[22:45:34] <payonel> and before i
clean up i wanted an emulator that i could use for memory
profiling
L1058[22:46:10] <payonel> i was getting
tired of making tweaks and loading mc to check memory with
inconsistent results
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Saphire nibbles on everyone
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L1073[23:54:02] <gamax92> Huh.
L1074[23:54:34] <gamax92> This is
quasseldroid, how do I have Corded integration here
L1075[23:57:07] <gamax92> Can quassel
clients somehow rewrite messages in the core?
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<gamax92> blep
L1077[23:58:59] <gamax92> Uhm what.