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L102[04:20:22] <Forecaster> well, pet command's been added
L103[04:21:03] <Forecaster> it's not deployed yet of course
L104[04:21:07] <Forecaster> since I can't do that
L105[04:24:39] <Ashindigo_> Yay
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L112[04:28:49] <Forecaster> seems like pxtst.com is having some issues :P
L113[04:28:55] <Forecaster> whatever that is
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L121[04:37:48] <Forecaster> Time to start ignoring join/part/quit
L122[04:37:57] <Forecaster> no real reason to see them
L123[04:39:20] <Forecaster> actually, there's a plugin to filter them better
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L127[04:51:06] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L128[04:51:33] <Ashindigo_> ?
L129[04:51:54] <Lizzy> ping's internet/host is meh
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L131[04:52:27] <Lizzy> half tempted to ban the hostmask till ping can sort his internet out
L132[04:52:58] <Forecaster> I'm just glad I'm not seeing them anymore :P
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L135[04:58:10] <Lizzy> ping, fix your fucking internet
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L137[04:58:30] <Forecaster> huh, I still see the +v
L138[04:58:32] <Forecaster> xD
L139[04:58:49] <Lizzy> heh, well that's mode changes, not join/part :P
L140[04:59:01] <Forecaster> I know
L141[04:59:26] <Forecaster> I forgot those were there
L142[04:59:36] <Forecaster> but I just hid all mode changes
L143[04:59:41] <Forecaster> solves that fine
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L146[05:09:54] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4fAbCzi4PM
L147[05:09:55] <MichiBot> Woman Asks Amazon's Alexa If She's Connected To The CIA! | length: 44s | Likes: 12 Dislikes: 0 Views: 1,249 | by Hip Hop Entertainment | Published On 9/3/2017
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L157[05:34:52] <Forecaster> dun dun duuun
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L168[05:57:13] <Forecaster> I wish I was home so I could test the new command >:
L169[06:01:06] <Ashindigo_> %inv list
L170[06:01:09] <MichiBot> Here's my inventory: http://michibot.pc-logix.com/inventory
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L176[06:20:24] <vifino> %inv add /dev/c0d0p0s0
L177[06:20:27] <MichiBot> vifino: Added '/dev/c0d0p0s0' to inventory.
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L180[06:35:48] <Forecaster> https://youtu.be/BSP-e8tnXhw
L181[06:35:50] <MichiBot> Manifold Garden - Teaser Trailer | length: 1m 24s | Likes: 458 Dislikes: 3 Views: 72,571 | by William Chyr | Published On 16/9/2015
L182[06:36:01] <Forecaster> This looks similar to Antichamber
L183[06:36:04] <Forecaster> (in style)
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L186[06:42:04] <vifino> reminds me to play antichamber again.
L187[06:42:29] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L188[06:44:15] <Forecaster> I don't think I would re-play it
L189[06:44:36] <Forecaster> there's no mystery left in it
L190[06:51:48] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L191[06:51:56] <Lizzy> :3
L192[06:51:58] <vifino> Forecaster: but... it's beautiful
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L195[07:01:40] <Inari> %stab sun
L196[07:01:41] * MichiBot stabs sun with a payo mayo bottle doing [13] damage
L197[07:01:41] <Inari> Go away
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L206[07:25:32] <Forecaster> *suns intensity goes up by 10%*
L207[07:26:33] <Inari> I already miss winter
L208[07:28:20] <Forecaster> Pros of winder: no bugs, no lawn mowing, no pollen, cons of winter: cold, snow, ice
L209[07:29:27] <Inari> I like cold, snow, and ice though
L210[07:29:37] <Forecaster> I could do without
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L231[08:19:41] <Forecaster> http://bloodrizer.ru/games/kittens/#
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L238[08:35:44] <AmandaC> It's snowing where I am. :P
L239[08:37:48] <Inari> :o
L240[08:37:51] * Inari is envious
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L242[08:40:03] <FR^2> blue sky and sunshine where I am :P
L243[08:45:30] <Inari> Blue sky and sunshine can even be kind of nice. But it makes for way too hot nights :P
L244[08:45:42] <Inari> Plus sun shining in my face is never nice
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L247[08:53:31] <Forecaster> I hide inside
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L249[08:56:53] <Izaya> Inari, blue sky and sunshine makes it cold at night
L250[08:57:10] <Inari> Not when its like 30 degrees during the day :P
L251[08:57:20] <Izaya> wat
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L253[08:57:27] <Izaya> those are the days it gets the coldest
L254[08:57:30] zsh sets mode: +o on Michiyo
L255[08:57:49] <Izaya> if it stays clear at night it gets real cold because all the heat escapes
L256[08:57:58] <Izaya> and you end up with sub-20C nights q_q
L257[08:58:00] <Inari> Can't sleep when its like 30 in my room and has been all day long xD
L258[08:58:13] <Inari> Izaya: Yeah, well, heat doesn't escape so well from my room :D
L259[08:58:21] <Izaya> get better ventilation
L260[08:58:29] <Inari> :P
L261[08:58:30] <Inari> If you apy
L262[08:58:32] <Inari> *pay
L263[08:58:48] <Izaya> get a fan
L264[08:58:56] <Izaya> though you really don't need them at 30C
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L266[09:00:14] <Inari> Izaya: A fan circulates the air inside the room
L267[09:00:17] <Inari> doesn't make it any colder though
L268[09:00:18] <Inari> :P
L269[09:00:22] <Izaya> open a window
L270[09:00:24] <Izaya> or multiple
L271[09:00:32] <Inari> Yeah and have like 3000 bugs inside
L272[09:00:33] <Inari> No thakns
L273[09:00:41] <Izaya> you don't have flyscreen?
L274[09:01:01] <Inari> Nope, besides the only window worth openin would be the big roof window, and I've never found one that would work with that xD
L275[09:02:20] <Izaya> get flyscreen
L276[09:02:22] <Izaya> open windows
L277[09:02:26] <Izaya> I know this
L278[09:02:29] <Izaya> I'm Australian
L279[09:03:29] <XDjackieXD> It took me quite some time to find a useable flyscreen solution for my roof window :P
L280[09:04:03] <Izaya> also
L281[09:04:05] <Izaya> a roof window?
L282[09:04:13] <Izaya> like, a hole in the roof you open?
L283[09:04:19] <Izaya> do you people not have insulation and a roof cavity?
L284[09:04:32] <XDjackieXD> nope. like a 45° window.
L285[09:04:56] <Izaya> o.O 45*?
L286[09:05:38] <XDjackieXD> well more like 60 degree (if 90 is vertical)
L287[09:05:43] <Izaya> wat
L288[09:05:53] <Izaya> why so steep
L289[09:06:04] <Izaya> wait snow
L290[09:06:13] <Izaya> wouldn't you have insulation to deal with the snow on the roof?
L291[09:06:16] <Izaya> so it doesn't get cold inside?
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L293[09:07:30] <XDjackieXD> we do have insulation. that's why the window looks like this: https://puu.sh/uCLAO/128a7fa53a.jpg
L294[09:07:50] <XDjackieXD> (and yes: this side of the roof is curved)
L295[09:08:24] <XDjackieXD> jsut measured it: almost exactly 60 degrees
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L297[09:11:25] <Izaya> weird window
L298[09:11:27] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/LFkgUbQ.jpg
L299[09:11:30] <Izaya> unrelated
L300[09:17:05] <Inari> Izaya: a window in the roof?
L301[09:17:35] <Inari> https://mayfairprojects.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/roof-window.jpg e.g. :P
L302[09:18:42] <Izaya> your houses are weird
L303[09:18:44] <XDjackieXD> such windows are very common in Europe
L304[09:19:11] <Izaya> europe is weird
L305[09:19:16] <XDjackieXD> xD
L306[09:19:17] <Inari> :P
L307[09:19:33] <Inari> My main issue is that like there, mine turns in the middle
L308[09:19:39] <Inari> so its kinda hard to have a flyscreen
L309[09:19:44] <XDjackieXD> most of them do.
L310[09:20:24] <XDjackieXD> that's why you can't open my window completely anymore when the flyscreen is down (it slides on the two rails you can see closer to the inner edge of the wall)
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L312[09:21:40] <Izaya> sliding flyscreen...
L313[09:21:41] <Izaya> see
L314[09:21:53] <Izaya> our windows have flyscreen on the outside
L315[09:21:57] <Izaya> then a layer of glass
L316[09:22:04] <Izaya> usually with a part that slides up or opens inwards
L317[09:22:13] <Izaya> so you can open the window
L318[09:22:18] <XDjackieXD> usually ours do too but with those rotating roof windows you can't really put them outside
L319[09:22:20] <Izaya> but the flyscreen doesn't really go anywhere
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L326[10:01:59] <Sangar> o/
L327[10:03:02] <Sangar> Vexatos, so? let's remove multi-block screens?
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L329[10:03:20] <Vexatos> Something like that?
L330[10:04:29] <Vexatos> Sangar, So apparently the chunk issue is not fixed yet? There have been two or three cases reported using 1.6.1
L331[10:04:32] <Vexatos> 1.6.2, I mean
L332[10:04:33] <Vexatos> :X
L333[10:05:53] <Sangar> if you mean the thing you linked, that's something else entirely tho isn't it
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L339[10:16:25] <Vexatos> Sangar, well, the component dupe, screen shutdown and case shutdown issues all seemed vaguely related
L340[10:16:33] <Vexatos> There hasn't been any report of computers crashing yet
L341[10:17:20] <Vexatos> but that and https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2302
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L344[10:17:40] <Vexatos> It is... odd.
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L346[10:19:56] <Sangar> weeeelllll robots
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L348[10:21:48] <Vexatos> Robots™
L349[10:22:05] <Vexatos> A miracle they work at all, considering how much hackery is inside, etc etc
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L355[10:43:28] <payonel> o/
L356[10:44:04] <payonel> what's wrong with multiblock screens? :) - are they the root of the component uuid reset crap?
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L358[10:47:37] <Vexatos> no
L359[10:47:46] <Vexatos> they are the root of Too Many Components™ IIRC
L360[10:47:59] <Vexatos> on chunk load, each one has their own node
L361[10:48:00] <Vexatos> before connecting
L362[10:48:03] <Vexatos> or something like that
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L365[10:48:56] <AmandaC> Would it be possible to make them not "join" the network until a couple ticks after they've done the connection logic?
L366[10:49:08] <AmandaC> ( screen connection )
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L370[10:51:02] <Vexatos> AmandaC, not if you have a program running during that time
L371[10:51:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, wasn't there this config option for computer delay after chunk load?
L372[10:51:29] <Vexatos> Shouldn't this screen issue... not happen
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L374[10:55:29] * Sangar shrugs
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L376[10:55:52] <Sangar> "should"
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L385[11:17:54] <Michiyo> %test
L386[11:17:59] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Success
L387[11:18:02] <Michiyo> yay...
L388[11:18:07] <AmandaC> Ohai Michiyo
L389[11:18:14] <Michiyo> Hi
L390[11:18:57] <Michiyo> finally got jenkins working again
L391[11:21:59] <Forecaster> woo
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L394[11:22:41] <Forecaster> %inv add Jenkins
L395[11:22:41] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Added 'Jenkins' to inventory. I could get some good swings in with this.
L396[11:24:43] <Ashindigo_> %stab a test dummy
L397[11:24:45] * MichiBot stabs a test dummy with Temia's axe doing null damage
L398[11:24:49] <Ashindigo_> ...
L399[11:26:06] * Michiyo pokes Forecaster
L400[11:27:37] <AmandaC> Forecaster: FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT! FIX IT!
L401[11:27:42] * AmandaC flees
L402[11:27:43] <Temia> This is absurd
L403[11:27:47] <Temia> I mean...
L404[11:28:00] <Temia> My axe doing no damage? Truly bizarre!
L405[11:28:10] <Temia> :v
L406[11:28:32] <AmandaC> %inv add a life-like foam cutout of Temia's axe
L407[11:28:33] <MichiBot> AmandaC: Added 'a life-like foam cutout of Temia's axe' to inventory. This seems rather fragile...
L408[11:28:46] <Ashindigo_> of course
L409[11:28:46] <Michiyo> lol... how fitting
L410[11:33:20] <Inari> Temi-tan Industries
L411[11:37:24] <Michiyo> hmm lemme pull changes and I'll see if I can figure it out
L412[11:38:08] <gamax92> an axe makes you feel
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L414[11:45:17] <Forecaster> oh
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L417[11:45:43] <Forecaster> I'll fix
L418[11:45:50] <Forecaster> just gotta boot up Idea
L419[11:46:03] <Michiyo> k, good cause It seems I'm still not ok enough to code
L420[11:46:55] <Forecaster> I mean I *did* break it, so I gotta fix :P
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L428[12:18:35] <payonel> Inari: http://i.imgur.com/fZ87jAg.gifv
L429[12:20:00] <payonel> xarses: poke
L430[12:22:59] <ds84182> %inv add bytecode exploit
L431[12:23:02] <MichiBot> ds84182: Added 'bytecode exploit' to inventory. This seems very sturdy.
L432[12:23:07] <ds84182> it is ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L433[12:23:40] <Forecaster> :P
L434[12:24:01] <Inari> payonel: Would be cuter if grown!
L435[12:25:00] <Forecaster> Inari: but more difficult to pick up
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L437[12:34:55] <xarses_> payonel: poke
L438[12:35:57] <payonel> xarses_: i decided to comment directly on the issue, but i was just going to mention that i was more concerned about the crash than the (by design) "error" "Nothing to install.."
L439[12:36:22] <payonel> xarses_: but i wonder if there is a bug in install when there IS a dig disk
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L442[12:38:29] <xarses_> payonel: something is funky with install since we redid it for the components fs move
L443[12:38:39] <xarses_> so ya, we need to work on it
L444[12:39:39] <payonel> xarses_: i'm not sure what you're saying. are you saying that because it is new code there is a chance for bugs? if so, yes, i agree. else can you rephrase?
L445[12:39:39] <xarses_> I've had the nothing to install message before trying to install the OS, with the floppy inserted, booting from the HDD and having a bare HDD you want to install to
L446[12:40:05] <payonel> really? that's something i'd really like repro steps on if you get around to that
L447[12:40:28] <xarses_> Install was changed a bunch from 1.5, it worked well then. I haven't liked the result since
L448[12:40:48] <xarses_> I mentioned it somewhere and felt like the response was that's by design so I dropped it
L449[12:41:30] <xarses_> I try to (not be) annoying about things
L450[12:41:37] <xarses_> ;p
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L454[12:43:13] <Michiyo> thanks Forecaster
L455[12:43:18] <Forecaster> :>
L456[12:43:39] <Ashindigo_> %stab a cardboard box
L457[12:43:43] * MichiBot stabs a cardboard box with tea doing [5] damage
L458[12:43:46] <Ashindigo_> yay
L459[12:43:59] <Forecaster> %pet Inari
L460[12:43:59] * MichiBot pets Inari with abug. Inari recovers 13 health! , the abug poofs away in a sparkly cloud.
L461[12:44:05] <payonel> xarses_: you've earned quite a bit of right to annoy. plus, it doesn't annoy me. sorry if i made you feel silenced on the issue -- i'm definitely open to feedback on /bin/install (as for "magic component filesystems" as we've referred to them -- that's not something we're going to change)
L462[12:44:25] <Ashindigo_> %pet Forecaster
L463[12:44:54] <Forecaster> hm
L464[12:44:56] <Forecaster> oh right
L465[12:45:04] <Forecaster> I forgot to implement that part
L466[12:45:08] * Ashindigo_ runs
L467[12:47:06] <Inari> Forecaster: \o/
L468[12:53:08] <xarses_> payonel: sounds good, I'll try to go though some installs scn on 1.6.1.11
L469[12:55:29] <payonel> Soybean Cyst Nematode ?
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L473[12:59:05] <xarses_> %tell fingercomp I was looking at https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Fingercomp-Programs/tree/master/opg-chat/ I don't see how you get input from the user, can you point me to that?
L474[12:59:27] <MichiBot> xarses_: fingercomp will be notified of this message when next seen.
L475[13:02:16] <Forecaster> %pet Michiyo
L476[13:02:18] * MichiBot pets Michiyo with gamax92's evil spirits. Michiyo recovers 13 health!, the gamax92's evil spirits phases out of the dimension.
L477[13:02:29] <gamax92> oh
L478[13:02:30] <gamax92> good
L479[13:02:44] <Temia> %pet gamax92
L480[13:02:47] <MichiBot> Temia: I cannot execute this command right now. Wait 4 minutes, 32 seconds.
L481[13:02:52] <gamax92> ;~;
L482[13:03:01] <Forecaster> woo, the rate-limit thingy works
L483[13:03:09] * Temia pets Gamax directly then!
L484[13:03:26] <vifino> Forecaster: oh please, you can't rate limit petting like this.
L485[13:03:39] <vifino> That's bad and you know it.
L486[13:03:39] <Inari> Thats a pretty long cooldown
L487[13:03:49] <Forecaster> I did it because it's healing, I dunno
L488[13:03:54] <Forecaster> (also testing)
L489[13:03:57] <vifino> pls.
L490[13:03:59] <Ashindigo_> you cant limit pets!
L491[13:04:00] <Inari> %stab cooldown
L492[13:04:01] * MichiBot hits cooldown with the third time doing [2] damage
L493[13:07:54] <payonel> xarses_: here: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Fingercomp-Programs/blob/master/opg-chat/chat-modules/input.module#L91
L494[13:08:16] <Forecaster> kay, once MichiBot is re-deployed the rate limit will be removed ^^
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L496[13:08:30] <Forecaster> and the healing effect (which doesn't do anything yet) reduced
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L499[13:09:17] <Forecaster> like so
L500[13:09:22] <Forecaster> thanks Michiyo :>
L501[13:10:33] <Ashindigo_> %pet Forecaster
L502[13:10:34] * MichiBot brushes Forecaster with a Failing Grade. Forecaster recovers 6 health!, the Failing Grade poofs away in a sparkly cloud.
L503[13:11:07] <Forecaster> petting always destroys the item, but the more uses are left the greated the healing effect
L504[13:11:36] <Forecaster> it rolls 1d4 for every 2 uses it has
L505[13:12:10] <vifino> %health Forecaster
L506[13:12:21] <vifino> -1 approval points.
L507[13:12:22] <Forecaster> there is no health yet
L508[13:12:29] <Forecaster> I already said that :P
L509[13:12:52] <Forecaster> but Michiyo went ahead and added the damage thing to stab ahead of time, so I added healing to pet ahead of time :D
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L512[13:14:21] <Michiyo> Well, my initial plan for the damage was not to track it at all... :P
L513[13:14:47] <Forecaster> :P
L514[13:14:56] <Forecaster> I'll get to adding it eventually
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L517[13:19:20] *** cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
L518[13:21:53] <Lizzy> oh for fucks sake4
L519[13:21:57] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L520[13:22:06] <Forecaster> ?
L521[13:22:10] <Lizzy> yay, steam's having to re-download fallout 4
L522[13:22:16] <Forecaster> oh
L523[13:22:17] <payonel> %flip ¬_¬
L524[13:22:19] <MichiBot> payonel: (╯°□°）╯¬‾¬
L525[13:26:16] <Inari> %flip payonel: (╯°□°）╯¬‾¬
L526[13:26:18] <MichiBot> Inari: (╯°□°）╯¬_¬╯）°□°╯) :lǝuoʎɐd
L527[13:28:17] <payonel> %flip (╯°□°）╯payonel: (╯°□°）╯¬‾¬╯）°□°╯) :ıɹɐuI
L528[13:28:17] <MichiBot> payonel: (╯°□°）╯Inari: (╯°□°）╯¬_¬╯）°□°╯) :lǝuoʎɐd╯）°□°╯)
L529[13:32:59] <Ashindigo_> %flip (╯°□°）╯Inari: (╯°□°）╯¬_¬╯）°□°╯) :lǝuoʎɐd╯）°□°╯)
L530[13:33:00] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: (╯°□°）╯(╯°□°）╯payonel: (╯°□°）╯¬‾¬╯）°□°╯) :ıɹɐuI╯）°□°╯)
L531[13:33:30] <Michiyo> ... stahp
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L533[13:34:58] <payonel> i just wanted to point out that my flip from Inari was preflipped...because i was upside-down
L534[13:36:25] <Inari> so detail
L535[13:36:31] <Inari> much flip
L536[13:36:33] <Inari> such cmd
L537[13:36:33] <Inari> wow
L538[13:36:40] <payonel> Inari: you deserve wow
L539[13:36:55] <Inari> I prefer ff14
L540[13:37:36] <payonel> :)
L541[13:37:44] * Ashindigo_ waits for 5 years as he makes a backup of his pi
L542[13:39:01] <TYKUHN2> %flip %flip
L543[13:39:02] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2: (╯°□°）╯dılɟ%
L544[13:39:05] * Lizzy bought NieR:Automata
L545[13:40:01] <Lizzy> though i can't play it till the 17th
L546[13:41:21] * AmandaC waits for the rain to let up in BotW so she can climb this mountian
L547[13:41:46] * Temia keeps all the lalafells away from Inari
L548[13:41:47] <payonel> rain stops your from climbing mountains in botw?
L549[13:41:51] <Inari> Why can't you climb it while its raining
L550[13:41:54] <Inari> Temia: Haha
L551[13:42:17] <g> You have trouble climbing vertical surfaces when it's raining
L552[13:42:23] <g> you can do it but you'll slip down every so often
L553[13:42:26] <g> and it wastes stamina
L554[13:42:30] <AmandaC> ^
L555[13:42:39] <AmandaC> g: You were the one with it early, right?
L556[13:42:42] <g> Yeah
L557[13:42:52] <Lizzy> wat
L558[13:42:52] <AmandaC> I had a question for you but I forget it now.
L559[13:43:08] <g> My order arrived a day early Lizzy
L560[13:43:09] <Lizzy> so i can launch fallout 4 yet it still needs updating?
L561[13:43:09] <AmandaC> oh, rain let up
L562[13:43:16] <Lizzy> g?
L563[13:43:26] <g> you said "wat" right after that comment
L564[13:43:35] <Lizzy>
L565[13:43:38] <g>
L566[13:43:46] <Lizzy> no, my wat was to fallout working
L567[13:43:49] <g> ah okay
L568[13:43:54] <g> yeah some games allow you to do that
L569[13:44:03] <g> iirc
L570[13:44:20] <g> nier is another one
L571[13:44:45] <g> AmandaC, well, let me know if you remember :P
L572[13:44:58] <g> have you encountered any weaponless moblins with nearby bokoblins yet?
L573[13:45:21] <g> moblins are great, they like to throw shit at you
L574[13:45:23] <g> including bokoblins
L575[13:45:24] <Lizzy> g, but this is fallout 4. it has never allowed that and the 'download' is 54GB
L576[13:45:25] <g> lol
L577[13:45:33] <g> Lizzy, well I dunno what to tell you
L578[13:45:37] <g> steam is buggy
L579[13:45:38] <g> \o/
L580[13:45:50] <Lizzy> it could be the 'high-res' addon
L581[13:46:03] <AmandaC> g: Yeah. They'll even throw them at you when they have another weapon, side-arm. :DD
L582[13:46:12] <g> lol
L583[13:46:34] <g> How far in are you?
L584[13:46:40] <Inari> I heard they are upset at you when you pick up their weapon
L585[13:46:48] <g> Yeah, they are, lol
L586[13:46:56] <g> They start slapping you around instead
L587[13:46:56] <AmandaC> Story wise? Fix the slate, go back to impa (second half not done)
L588[13:47:03] <AmandaC> However, I completed the map this morning
L589[13:47:05] <g> Ah okay, you've a ways to go yet
L590[13:47:24] <g> When you go back to impa you actually find out what you'll be doing for most of the game
L591[13:47:26] <AmandaC> I've been side-questing for a few days so my sister can watch the story
L592[13:47:29] <Inari> Sadly Cemu doesn't run BotW yet
L593[13:47:29] <Inari> :p
L594[13:47:50] <payonel> yet :)
L595[13:47:56] <g> How many hearts do you have?
L596[13:48:12] <AmandaC> 7, and ... 3? stamina upgrades
L597[13:48:25] <g> Ah, okay
L598[13:48:29] <g> You'll want at least 13 hearts
L599[13:48:31] <Inari> I have a single
L600[13:48:33] <g> just bear that in mind
L601[13:48:40] <AmandaC> Just bought the house from the flamboyent man in Hadeko
L602[13:49:02] <g> I could tell you why, but.. spoilers :3
L603[13:49:58] <AmandaC> I've heard from impa what the over-arching plot is atm, and seen from reviews and such what it entails, but yeah, I've been avoiding doing that stuff until my sister is home tonight to watch. (She's got spring break starting tonight -> next sunday)
L604[13:50:19] <g> Well, keep up with them shrines I guess
L605[13:50:24] <g> and remember to look for chests
L606[13:50:28] <AmandaC> heh, indeed
L607[13:50:34] <Inari> I wanna play it too D:
L608[13:50:36] <vifino> %ispayonelsemugoodyet
L609[13:50:38] <g> you'll get some armor from them that you can't get elsewhere, so
L610[13:50:48] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L611[13:50:49] <AmandaC> Have you gotten the sensor +, ooc?
L612[13:50:57] * Lizzy snuggles vifino
L613[13:50:59] <g> I have sensor+ and remote bombs+
L614[13:51:14] <AmandaC> same
L615[13:51:23] <AmandaC> can't find the third core for the statis+
L616[13:51:28] <vifino> dammit, i wanna play botw :(
L617[13:51:32] <g> I thought stasis was useless until I realised you can use it on enemies..
L618[13:51:41] <payonel> vifino: kb driver code is very much improved. i'm still really dedicated to kb driver code atm, next up i'm working on my ptr kb driver, then i'll add the file pipe driver
L619[13:51:42] <AmandaC> maybe we should take this to PM though, we're kinda scratching near spoiler-ish stuff.
L620[13:51:48] <g> lol, yeah, okay, fair enough
L621[13:52:18] <vifino> payonel: yay.
L622[13:52:40] <payonel> vifino: after that i need to generalize the kb drive code that assume my kb layout -- termios can help me infer the table (i wanted my hardcoded keycodes to be absolutely solid before i tested using termios to load the mapping)
L623[13:52:49] <xarses_> payonel: ooo, ok maybe I shouldn't use OpenGlasses then
L624[13:53:11] <payonel> after that i'll clean up the makefile, after that i'll finish the Filesystem component (e.g. fs::remove is not implemented)
L625[13:53:51] <payonel> vifino: also, typo, meant to say "next up is pty kb driver"
L626[13:53:55] <payonel> where i emulate key release
L627[13:54:02] <vifino> ah
L628[13:54:04] <vifino> neat.
L629[13:54:09] <xarses_> pty's!!!!
L630[13:54:20] <payonel> currently, the "pty" mode is faking things with an abuse of X events
L631[13:54:41] <payonel> xarses_: :) this is for my emulator
L632[13:57:13] * xarses_ abuses events too
L633[13:57:23] <xarses_> I think they are scared of me
L634[13:58:49] <payonel> xarses_: :)
L635[13:59:24] <payonel> to be clear what i mean: https://github.com/payonel/ocvm/blob/master/drivers/kb_scanner.cpp#L96
L636[13:59:36] <Forecaster> %pet AmandaC
L637[13:59:37] * MichiBot pets AmandaC with featuring Barney from the Devil May Cry series!. AmandaC recovers 4 health!, the featuring Barney from Devil May Cry series! phases out of the dimension.
L638[14:00:07] <xarses_> speaking of keymap, did we fix numpad-enter?
L639[14:00:18] <payonel> xarses_: i have not forgotten
L640[14:00:27] <payonel> especially now that my emulator just recently got numpad support :)
L641[14:00:41] <gamax92> payonel
L642[14:00:55] <xarses_> mmkay
L643[14:01:00] <payonel> ocemu is already awesome and i could have fixed the numpad issues long long ago
L644[14:01:21] <payonel> just saying...having JUST checked my numpad support in ocvm (my emulator) i was thinking of your ticket
L645[14:01:36] <xarses_> emu's are awesome =)
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L647[14:01:49] <payonel> gamax92: :)
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L649[14:06:57] <gamax92> payonel: does numpad work in ocemu?
L650[14:07:16] <payonel> no
L651[14:07:23] <gamax92> yeah thought so, horray SDL
L652[14:08:09] <payonel> i had never checked until JUST now because i am almost never at a desktop when working on oc stuff
L653[14:08:18] <payonel> but instead, laptop
L654[14:08:36] <payonel> am currently at a desktop bc at work
L655[14:09:10] * Ashindigo_ looks at the numpad on his laptop
L656[14:09:28] <gamax92> :P
L657[14:09:46] <gamax92> my laptop has a numpad too
L658[14:10:10] <payonel> i guess technically mine does too, as dual keys in a region
L659[14:10:23] <payonel> but i never switch to that mode
L660[14:24:06] <Michiyo> %addcommand ispayonelsemugoodyet no.
L661[14:24:09] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Command Added
L662[14:24:13] <Michiyo> :P
L663[14:25:21] <AmandaC> %addcommand givemichiyocookies Okay!
L664[14:25:25] <AmandaC> :(
L665[14:26:03] <Forecaster> %give AmandaC cookies
L666[14:26:05] * MichiBot gives AmandaC cookies from her inventory
L667[14:28:32] <gamax92> actually numpad codes could be fairly easily supported in ocemu
L668[14:29:20] <AmandaC> %give Michiyo cookies
L669[14:29:20] * MichiBot gives Michiyo cookies from her inventory
L670[14:34:18] * Michiyo saves the cookies for later
L671[14:36:53] <TYKUHN2> Amanda
L672[14:37:03] <TYKUHN2> Stop cheating! The bot shouldn't respond before your command!
L673[14:37:15] <Inari> Michiyo: isitchristmas.com ?
L674[14:39:58] <TYKUHN2> Well is it Inari?
L675[14:40:18] <Inari> The website tells you
L676[14:42:25] <TYKUHN2> Maybe my internet is down.
L677[14:43:21] <Forecaster> oh hey, swedish, for some reason
L678[14:43:27] <TYKUHN2> Maybe I should go to ismyinternetworking.com
L679[14:43:58] <Forecaster> is it like that for everyone, or is it location-sensitive?
L680[14:44:20] <Forecaster> I would assume the latter
L681[14:44:35] <Michiyo> I get NO/NON
L682[14:44:43] <Forecaster> so yes
L683[14:45:04] <Forecaster> probably using the ip, since the browser doesn't ask about location permission
L684[14:45:09] <Forecaster> I hate sites that do that
L685[14:45:18] <Michiyo> yeah, cause it thinks I'm in Canada
L686[14:45:20] <Forecaster> instead of using the browsers language settings
L687[14:45:41] <Michiyo> well... technically I AM in Canada...
L688[14:45:43] <Michiyo> lol
L689[14:45:45] <SolraBizna> but the standard HTTP headers for giving language preferences have only been around for...
L690[14:45:46] <Forecaster> or rather, whichever language the browser tells the site to use
L691[14:45:58] <SolraBizna> ...20 years, I guess?
L692[14:46:03] <SolraBizna> That's not long enough to be adopted by anyone
L693[14:46:15] <Forecaster> %give SolraBizna cookies
L694[14:46:15] * MichiBot gives SolraBizna cookies from her inventory
L695[14:46:50] <Michiyo> Headers? wtf does car exhaust parts have to do with the interwebz?
L696[14:46:59] <Michiyo> :P
L697[14:47:08] <SolraBizna> No, no, it's the part of a circuit board you solder a component onto
L698[14:47:11] <Forecaster> headers? what does newspapers have to do with the interwebz?
L699[14:47:45] <Aedda> Ok I must me missing something but on my robot I am able to use robot.move(side) however robot.forward() generates a null field exception
L700[14:47:56] <TYKUHN2> Headers? What does HTTP have to do with the interwebz?
L701[14:48:08] <Forecaster> pretty sure forward is deprecated
L702[14:48:10] <SolraBizna> isn't robot.forward() a ComputerCraftism?
L703[14:48:28] <Aedda> It's in the OC wiki docs
L704[14:48:36] <Forecaster> just use move
L705[14:48:47] <Forecaster> or write your own "forward()" in a local function
L706[14:49:17] <SolraBizna> I was gonna suggest monkeypatching it, but then I remembered that OC routinely uses bound proxies...
L707[14:49:21] <TYKUHN2> I have ocdoc 90% cached at this point
L708[14:49:41] <payonel> oc 1.7 should just be wiki updates :)
L709[14:50:30] <TYKUHN2> Aedda ingame wiki? ocdoc.cil.li doesn't have robot.forward
L710[14:50:55] <AmandaC> api:robot does
L711[14:51:02] <AmandaC> It's added by OpenOS
L712[14:51:14] <Aedda> http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:robot
L713[14:51:19] <Michiyo> While the component robot has more generic functions like move([side: number]) or drop([side: number]), this API has more intuitive and failsafe functions like turnRight, dropDown, forward. Which one you use is up to you, you can even use both at the same time.
L714[14:51:20] <payonel> .......
L715[14:51:37] <Forecaster> oh yeah
L716[14:51:40] <TYKUHN2> Aedda make sure you required "robot" then
L717[14:51:57] <Aedda> oooh, I think I get you, one sec
L718[14:51:58] <payonel> AmandaC: openos definitely doesn't add any robot api
L719[14:51:59] <Inari> Right
L720[14:52:06] <Inari> one issue of custom archs is how to interact with components I guess
L721[14:52:44] <SolraBizna> OETF #2 is your friend
L722[14:53:03] <SolraBizna> plus arch-specific special cases for more convenient use of specific components
L723[14:53:35] <Inari> Doesn't sound like thats even implemented
L724[14:53:55] <AmandaC> payonel: oh, I assumed `require('robot')` meant it was loading it from OpenOS, but I'm still fairly new to this all
L725[14:53:57] <SolraBizna> ...I do not understand
L726[14:54:20] <Aedda> Well that solved that issue, thanks guys!
L727[14:55:24] <Inari> SolraBizna: I don't see how it helps defining how e.g. a MIPS arch accesses component functions
L728[14:55:56] <TYKUHN2> Why is standardized components an issue? It's all translated on the back end anyways
L729[14:55:58] <SolraBizna> you assemble a buffer out of UIF building blocks, and then "arch specific thing" the buffer
L730[14:56:46] <Inari> Just sounds very verbose
L731[14:57:00] <SolraBizna> it supports everything OpenComputers components can do
L732[14:58:05] <SolraBizna> and then you add arch-specific special cases for particular components (EEPROM and screen/keyboard, usually)
L733[14:58:30] <vifino> pff, mips arch
L734[14:58:35] <Inari> But
L735[14:58:39] <SolraBizna> if you don't have general-purpose component support, then your arch can't use every component
L736[14:58:40] <Inari> what consumes the stuff even?
L737[14:58:44] <Inari> the java code of the arch?
L738[14:58:46] <vifino> why do you need that when you can emulate a ZPU in lua!
L739[14:59:01] <Inari> vifino: Cause lua has no strict memory management
L740[14:59:03] <SolraBizna> the Java code of the arch reads the buffer, and translates it into an OpenComputers method call
L741[14:59:07] <vifino> https://github.com/vifino/lua-zpuemu </shamelessplug>
L742[14:59:24] <vifino> Inari: but the emulator can run everything you want
L743[14:59:26] <SolraBizna> receives the reply, translates it back
L744[14:59:33] <vifino> * terms and conditions apply
L745[14:59:34] <Inari> vifino: But it'll crash out of memory
L746[14:59:42] <vifino> Inari: so will the mips arch
L747[14:59:52] <Inari> Mips at least gives you memory control though
L748[14:59:55] <Inari> lua just crashes at random
L749[15:00:03] <vifino> pls
L750[15:00:28] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wx24AeqHRA
L751[15:00:29] <MichiBot> bullyparade - Pumpgun Song | length: 1m 13s | Likes: 4,320 Dislikes: 62 Views: 619,885 | by BULLYBASE.DE | Published On 14/9/2012
L752[15:00:57] <Inari> I half want to make an arch, but half not
L753[15:00:58] <Inari> :P
L754[15:01:08] <vifino> until MIPS arch can deliver, zpu.lua makes me happy
L755[15:01:11] <Inari> Every arch project so far didn't seem to go anywhere
L756[15:01:48] <SolraBizna> OC-ARM got pretty darn far :(
L757[15:02:11] <vifino> combine https://github.com/vifino/lua-zpuemu with https://github.com/20kdc/zbc and you got a productive development environment using something similar to Honeywell B!
L758[15:02:12] <Inari> And then just kinda died
L759[15:02:21] <SolraBizna> Yeah, because I have real work to do now :(
L760[15:02:46] <SolraBizna> But if you wanted me to make a 65C02 arch, I could totally do that and pretend it's relevant to my project
L761[15:02:59] <Inari> :p
L762[15:03:15] <SolraBizna> (seriously, if this is something you want, you'll have it by Monday... >_>)
L763[15:03:23] <Inari> As long as it isn't some weird GC based thing like lua with hidden memory usage/recycling
L764[15:03:24] <vifino> SolraBizna: do it.
L765[15:03:27] <SolraBizna> FINE
L766[15:03:31] <vifino> :3
L767[15:03:46] * SolraBizna types "cd froge" into a terminal, remembers why he's not actually working right now
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L769[15:04:01] <vifino> because you are a lazy sack of bones, human.
L770[15:04:33] <SolraBizna> fourth day in a row of impaired sleep
L771[15:04:43] * Ashindigo_ types ls into cmd prompt and wonders why it isnt working
L772[15:04:43] <SolraBizna> never play nethack while sleep deprived
L773[15:04:58] <SolraBizna> quick, need a name for the arch
L774[15:05:07] <SolraBizna> or it'll just be OCW65C02
L775[15:05:08] <Ashindigo_> arch duke
L776[15:05:17] <vifino> OC-65C02
L777[15:05:29] <vifino> alternatively
L778[15:05:37] <vifino> 65OC02
L779[15:05:42] <SolraBizna> ooh, I like that one
L780[15:05:58] * vifino hides creativity hat
L781[15:07:17] <gamax92> SolraBizna: ahh, can you do that arch for me so I can get rid of Symon?
L782[15:07:30] <SolraBizna> yeah
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L784[15:07:42] <SolraBizna> given what I've been working on the last few weeks, and given how much of the hard work I already did for OC-ARM, this will be a piece of cake
L785[15:07:59] <vifino> SolraBizna: please make sure FUZIX runs on it
L786[15:08:05] <vifino> because good lord is it awesome
L787[15:08:14] <vifino> ( https://github.com/EtchedPixels/FUZIX )
L788[15:08:43] <vifino> actually bleh, bitrotted
L789[15:10:04] <SolraBizna> so $0000-$01FF will be on-chip RAM, $0200-$0FFF will be IO space, and each bank of $1000 bytes can be mapped arbitrarily among the available memory modules
L790[15:10:21] <SolraBizna> with $Fxxx being mapped to the EEPROM by default
L791[15:10:57] <SolraBizna> if anybody who cares wants another scheme, they should speak within the next couple hours, because that's when I'll start building this sucker
L792[15:12:49] <SolraBizna> ...also, if somebody would volunteer to test my real-for-work-purposes emulator core's support for the WDC-specific instructions, that would be really helpful
L793[15:13:08] <AmandaC> WDC?
L794[15:13:30] <SolraBizna> the CMOS 6502s made by WDC have some instructions that aren't on any of the other 6502s
L795[15:13:33] <vifino> SolraBizna: if you could make it compatible with the TGL6502 thing, FUXIZ could be doable!
L796[15:14:59] <vifino> I have no clue about anything, but FUXIZ is cool.
L797[15:15:55] <SolraBizna> The only real question would be memory map
L798[15:16:16] <SolraBizna> speaking of memory
L799[15:16:29] <SolraBizna> 65OC02 may become the first OpenComputers architecture to support memory hot-swapping
L800[15:17:34] <SolraBizna> ...I really like that name, but it is going to get mistyped a lot
L801[15:18:19] <SolraBizna> IRQB# will assert whenever there is a signal available, what should I use NMIB# for?
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L805[15:29:36] <SolraBizna> I'll leave it pulled high for now
L806[15:32:57] <gamax92> SolraBizna: the fuck is that naming scheme
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L811[16:12:59] <Sangar> wait so curse is twitch is amazon now?
L812[16:13:28] <TYKUHN2> Swat team busts down wrong door 4 times in a row...
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L814[16:17:13] <Aedda> Assuming all power consuming components such as chunkloading are turned off the best way to conserve Robot power (while remaining on) is os.sleep?
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L816[16:20:58] <payonel> Aedda: aye, os.sleep()
L817[16:21:04] <Inari> Hm
L818[16:21:08] <Aedda> Thank ya :D
L819[16:21:23] <Inari> Preferably with a timeout I guess :P
L820[16:21:32] <Inari> Or sleeptime rather
L821[16:21:49] <payonel> os.sleep(math.huge)
L822[16:21:55] <payonel> %lua os.sleep(math.huge)
L823[16:21:55] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to call field 'sleep' (a nil value)
L824[16:21:55] <Inari> Haha
L825[16:22:19] <Inari> Well I'd assume they want the robot to wake up at some point
L826[16:22:47] <payonel> waking up is handled in version 2.0 of this software
L827[16:22:53] <payonel> we're still building 1.0 here
L828[16:23:52] <Forecaster> sometime while I was working on my nick alias script the other day something went terribly wrong
L829[16:25:21] <Forecaster> it seems someone saying something in #factorio triggered a loop which resulted in 40 thousand lines with at its height 3000 columns of (Kodos) repeated over and over
L830[16:25:30] <Forecaster> that certainly explains why it segfaulted
L831[16:26:45] <Inari> payonel: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/5ydjlf/but_they_arent_using_it/?ref=share&ref_source=link
L832[16:28:32] <payonel> ooooo i can see where this is going
L833[16:32:48] <payonel> Inari: not near as bad as i thought it was going to be
L834[16:32:52] <Inari> :p
L835[16:32:56] <payonel> i thought v2 was going to be incompatible with v1
L836[16:33:01] <Inari> Haha
L837[16:33:03] <payonel> and ppl were going to have to re-enter all the data
L838[16:33:15] <Kodos> wat
L839[16:33:33] <gamax92> payonel: what is this v2 and v1
L840[16:34:06] <payonel> from the tfts reddit post
L841[16:34:11] <payonel> that Inari pasted
L842[16:34:14] <payonel> linked*
L843[16:42:10] <Aedda> Am I reading the config correctly that os.sleep() on a robot reduces ALL power use to 10% including components?
L844[16:42:31] <Forecaster> power is consumed by processing commands
L845[16:42:51] <Forecaster> and things that are constantly active, líke the chunkloader for example
L846[16:43:00] <Forecaster> pretty sure the sleep wont reduce that
L847[16:43:37] <Inari> Chunkloaders are still silly, and requriing the user to pay resources or such for them even more
L848[16:44:25] <Forecaster> ít's a necessity because of how minecraft works
L849[16:44:43] <Forecaster> and if they were free you could load way more than the server/client could handle
L850[16:45:09] <Inari> As if you couldn't already :P
L851[16:46:01] * Forecaster shrugs
L852[16:46:12] <Forecaster> not with oc robots
L853[16:46:18] <Forecaster> unless you work really hard
L854[16:46:34] <Inari> Should be trivial to automate in most modpacks
L855[16:47:01] <Inari> But yeah, I'd welcome if forge did away with needing chunkloading or MC did :P
L856[16:47:18] <Forecaster> that's not possible
L857[16:48:17] <Inari> Which of the two?
L858[16:48:42] <Forecaster> the latter
L859[16:48:52] <Inari> How so?
L860[16:49:09] <Inari> Mojang is in the best position for it
L861[16:49:23] <Inari> If forge does some hacky stuff they'd have to reimplement it each version
L862[16:49:30] <Inari> If MC changes it in its core that would be better
L863[16:49:37] <Forecaster> because the game is built on chunks...
L864[16:49:44] <Forecaster> you can't just "do away" with it
L865[16:49:51] <Inari> Change how it works. Provide options for machins to run without chunkloading
L866[16:49:56] <Forecaster> you'd have to rewrite 90% of everything
L867[16:50:21] <Inari> So possible :P Oh well, guess I'll still end up waiting for a good MC clone to pop up
L868[16:50:50] <Forecaster> uh huh
L869[16:51:57] <Inari> Anyway, night
L870[16:52:11] <Forecaster> night
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L882[17:13:55] <gamax92> bleh, need some sort of youtube addon that actually forces the video quality properly instead of having it be forced a little after the video has started
L883[17:45:43] <SolraBizna> Gavle: what, IRQB# / NMIB#?
L884[17:45:54] <SolraBizna> # suffix is the way of writing active-low that I inherited
L885[17:47:13] <SolraBizna> as for 65OC02, it needs a harder to mistype/misremember name
L886[17:47:25] <Gavle> SolraBizna, what?
L887[17:47:44] <SolraBizna> ...dangit
L888[17:47:49] <SolraBizna> normally I catch myself when I do that
L889[17:47:53] <SolraBizna> gamax92: you are Gavle now
L890[17:47:56] <gamax92> SolraBizna: yeah but ... it's just IRQ and NMU
L891[17:48:00] <gamax92> NMI*
L892[17:48:04] <Gavle> lol
L893[17:48:06] <gamax92> Why do you put a B
L894[17:48:13] <SolraBizna> I'd guess it stands for bus
L895[17:48:50] <SolraBizna> it's in the datasheets I've been using, and referring to them by the pin names is automatic right now
L896[17:48:51] <gamax92> and nobody cares if it's active low or high irl, it's an emulator, you're just going to be triggering a flag.
L897[17:49:34] <SolraBizna> it was only yesterday that I finished designing real ICs that have to interface with a real W65C02, and it definitely mattered to me then
L898[17:50:00] <gamax92> again
L899[17:50:35] <SolraBizna> we have already spent more time discussing the fact that I wrote "IRQB#" instead of "IRQ" than I spent thinking about "Hm, should I say IRQ or should I hit two extra keys?"
L900[17:50:55] <gamax92> SolraBizna: I'm waiting for things to finish compiling so :P
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L902[17:51:54] <SolraBizna> I'm going to have an NMI watchdog timer and a hacky supervisor mode
L903[17:53:15] <SolraBizna> but before I can do *any* of that I have to finish testing the emulator... which is my excuse to even do this
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L906[18:20:58] <SolraBizna> well, my debugger doesn't detect trivial instant loops properly anymore, but the bit branches apparently work (and disassemble!) correctly
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L910[18:49:03] <SolraBizna> officially working on this now, somebody better think of a better name than 65OC02 before I get to the Minecraft part
L911[18:52:37] <Kodos> Open65
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L914[18:58:37] <SolraBizna> OC-65 would be in keeping with my naming convention so far, but Open65 is a much better name aesthetically
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L920[19:38:22] <vifino> SolraBizna: 65OC02 is good and you know it.
L921[19:38:41] <gamax92> I like 65OC02 tbh
L922[19:38:49] <SolraBizna> I like it to, but it *will* get mistyped, a lot
L923[19:38:52] <SolraBizna> *too
L924[19:39:02] <vifino> Also, I started implementing an 8080 emulator in lua, surprisingly easy. guess i am learning, after all i did work on my ZPU emulator a lot.
L925[19:39:42] <vifino> [0xC6] = function(s, b) s.A = flaghandle(s.A + b) end, -- ADI byte
L926[19:39:43] <gamax92> I still have a 65C816 core I wrote, just didn't get around to writing the roms for it
L927[19:39:44] <vifino> woop
L928[19:40:51] <vifino> kinda wish i could parse some of the manuals for the 8080 and generate functions from their description, but oh well. i already parsed names and addresses, can't not put any work into this...
L929[19:41:21] <gamax92> I had an incomplete file manager for my core
L930[19:41:41] <vifino> i did literally make it as easy as it could be for me, so maybe i'll be done in a few days.
L931[19:41:45] <vifino> for now, sleeps.
L932[19:41:47] <vifino> o/
L933[19:41:50] <gamax92> sleeps
L934[19:41:52] <vifino> yes.
L935[19:42:27] <vifino> Night gamax92 and SolraBizna.
L936[19:47:10] <SolraBizna> Night
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L941[20:14:35] <SolraBizna> plugged all the instructions and addressing modes in
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L947[20:37:26] <gamax92> SolraBizna: but did you pass the test
L948[20:37:45] <SolraBizna> time will soon tell
L949[20:37:54] <SolraBizna> Klaus Doorne's test is going to be the first program I run
L950[20:38:03] <SolraBizna> *Dormann
L951[20:47:13] <SolraBizna> my C++ emulator could do 50MHz on one core of a Core 2... how fast should I make 65OC02/Open65?
L952[20:51:54] <SolraBizna> I'mma make it 1MHz, 2MHz, and 4MHz
L953[20:52:22] <GreaseMonkey> 1MHz probably
L954[20:52:30] <GreaseMonkey> tbh ocmips is probably not really that good at doing 40MHz
L955[20:53:10] <SolraBizna> the tier 3 OC-ARM CPU was 500KHz
L956[20:53:26] <SolraBizna> but I never did test the emulation performance of my core
L957[20:53:32] <SolraBizna> that would've come whenever I finally finished all the instructions
L958[20:55:06] <SolraBizna> pkg:gsub(".", "/") -- spot the bug
L959[20:57:33] <GreaseMonkey> please wait while i run command/exe
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L961[21:11:51] <SolraBizna> for the record, 10 minutes ago I started doing nothing else but adding (short) to places
L962[21:15:29] <gamax92> SolraBizna: "." is any character
L963[21:15:36] <SolraBizna> %give gamax92 cookies
L964[21:15:40] * MichiBot gives gamax92 cookies from her inventory
L965[21:15:43] <gamax92> come on that's easy :P
L966[21:30:23] <SolraBizna> finally done casting
L967[21:42:51] <SolraBizna> should be done with the core now
L968[21:44:38] <SolraBizna> what is the right way to embed data in a jar?
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L973[22:02:21] <SolraBizna> found it
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L975[22:16:59] <fingercomp> %tell xarses it's handled in the input module: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/Fingercomp-Programs/blob/master/opg-chat/chat-modules/input.module
L976[22:17:03] <MichiBot> fingercomp: xarses will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L978[22:17:26] <xarses> fingercomp: ya, payonel pointed it out. thx
L979[22:18:37] <xarses> I think i need to change glasses mods
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L981[22:51:27] <SolraBizna> it looks like my Java core comfortably hits 8MHz on this system
L982[22:51:37] <SolraBizna> so maybe I should do 500KHz / 1MHz / 2MHz instead
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L984[22:51:58] <SolraBizna> or even slower
L985[22:52:35] <SolraBizna> then again, this system isn't fast enough to run Minecraft playably, so maybe I don't need to worry...
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L990[23:05:07] <SolraBizna> what was the biggest size a tier 3 screen could be, again?
L991[23:05:36] <Temia> Resolution? 160x50.
L992[23:05:54] <SolraBizna> does that also include "offscreen"?
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L994[23:08:14] <SolraBizna> I vaguely remember that the total space, including "offscreen" areas, cannot exceed the maximum resolution
L995[23:08:23] <SolraBizna> but I _also_vaguely remember that the total space, including "offscreen" areas, cannot exceed _double_ the maximum resolution
L996[23:08:29] <SolraBizna> and I really hope that is not the case
L997[23:08:53] * Temia shrugs. The last time she used OC proper was before the VRAM implementation to begin with, so...
L998[23:09:49] <gamax92> SolraBizna: am looking forward to seeing how you deal with components and memory management
L999[23:10:20] <SolraBizna> a serial UIF port, and lots of arch-specific devices that look more like what is typically connected to a 6502
L1000[23:10:35] <SolraBizna> right now, as I wait for a reeeeeeally long trace to stop tracing, I'm pondering the GPU
L1001[23:11:11] <SolraBizna> I'm thinking of mapping GPUs as additional memory space (with weird memory holes, for smaller GPUs)
L1002[23:11:30] <SolraBizna> ... oh, right, I forgot about Unicode...
L1003[23:13:19] <SolraBizna> the alternative to a memory-mapped RAM also hooked up to a character generator, would be a serial terminal of some sort
L1004[23:13:50] <gamax92> SolraBizna: are you going to force components at certain addresses or allow it to be dynamically mapped? have a mod interface to support custom interfaces that are 6502 friendly?
L1005[23:14:31] <SolraBizna> I was not planning to dynamically map it, and I don't currently want to (because that would end up being really clunky on the program end)
L1006[23:14:39] <SolraBizna> I am interested in thoughts on a mod interface
L1007[23:15:08] <SolraBizna> If each device uses only a small portion of the IO space, and I reserve a portion for each type of device...
L1008[23:15:19] <SolraBizna> 3.5KiB of IO space might be enough
L1009[23:15:41] <SolraBizna> Hm, now that I think about it...
L1010[23:16:08] <SolraBizna> ...I think I need to go read GreaseMonkey's thing again
L1011[23:17:40] <gamax92> (it's not as clunky as you think it would be)
L1012[23:17:59] <SolraBizna> It instantly becomes 100% less clunky if each device takes up one (or more) fixed-size slot(s) in the IO space
L1013[23:18:18] <gamax92> that's still dynamically mapping no?
L1014[23:18:19] <SolraBizna> instead of the clunky way I was thinking of doing it
L1015[23:18:22] <SolraBizna> indeed
L1016[23:18:41] <gamax92> it would make doing a hypervisor/whatever near impossible but for me having varied sized components worked fine
L1017[23:19:06] <gamax92> usually the program loaded would just rest the mapping and then load what it needs
L1018[23:19:09] <SolraBizna> (it's STILL tracing...)
L1019[23:19:21] <SolraBizna> so the program inserts components into the mapping as it chooses?
L1020[23:19:28] <SolraBizna> after discovering them somehow elsewhere?
L1021[23:19:45] <GreaseMonkey> if we're talking about hardbus iirc it's up to the arch implementor
L1022[23:19:53] <GreaseMonkey> as to how to map things into the address space
L1023[23:20:09] <SolraBizna> We were, until I noticed that hardbus's individual-evice IO space was as big as my entire address space
L1024[23:20:14] <SolraBizna> *device
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L1026[23:20:52] <SolraBizna> Why does my emulator get really slow when it does a formatted System.out.println() for every bus cycle?!
L1027[23:21:04] * gamax92 cough
L1028[23:21:20] <gamax92> no shit it'd get slow
L1029[23:21:35] <SolraBizna> (that was the joke.)
L1030[23:21:41] <gamax92> wasn't funny
L1031[23:21:46] <SolraBizna> subjective.
L1032[23:22:35] <gamax92> SolraBizna: and yeah it worked okay, basically you could request a list and ocsymon would automatically map uuid's to unique 16bit ids
L1033[23:22:44] <gamax92> or you could request by name and ocesymon gives you the first it finds
L1034[23:24:17] <SolraBizna> what I'm thinking of is having a serial bus for discovery, through which you can find the device you want and instruct it to map itself somewhere in IO space
L1035[23:25:30] <SolraBizna> (different from the UIF bus)
L1036[23:26:53] <SolraBizna> I think I could actually make that work with hardbus
L1037[23:27:15] <gamax92> I'm going to go see if I can fix a linux program
L1038[23:27:23] <gamax92> they included symbols so, ya
L1039[23:28:25] <SolraBizna> trace finally ended
L1040[23:36:01] <SolraBizna> turns out it wasn't hitting an incorrect case, it was running out of allotted cycles
L1041[23:36:11] <SolraBizna> and it just happened to do so right as the PC hit one of the "traps"
L1042[23:36:34] <SolraBizna> if I give it enough cycles, it passes.
L1043[23:41:49] <SolraBizna> GreaseMonkey: did hardbus ever get implemented?
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