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L18[02:33:14] <Lizzy>
"Izaya
> wait do people
actually use curse by choice?" eww
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<Lizzy>
There, my main site and the stargatetech wiki are now on
ayiana
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L28[03:44:09] <Forecaster> woo
L29[03:46:12] *
Ashindigo_ cheers
L30[03:46:38] <Ashindigo_> Oops
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L32[03:47:30] <Lizzy>
"Izaya
> wait do people
actually use curse by choice?" eww
L33[03:47:33] <Lizzy> ffs
L34[03:47:35] <Lizzy> though my information
page has php errors for some reason
L35[03:47:40] <Lizzy> is what i meant to
send
L36[03:48:27] *
vifino snuggles Lizzy
L37[03:48:41] *
Lizzy snuggles vifino
L38[03:51:33] *
Lizzy offers vifino some of her bacon
L39[03:53:17] <Lizzy> dammit, still need to
move Kathy's VM over to it's new host ¬_¬
L40[03:53:23] <Lizzy> was gonna do that
last weekend
L41[03:54:13] <Lizzy> also how much crap do
i have on janus and athar
L42[03:55:07] <Lizzy> 33G of stuff on
janus, about the same on Athar
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L45[05:12:11] <Ashindigo_> Oh dear lord I
almost have a coke oven
L46[05:12:58] <Ashindigo_> %inventory add a
coke oven
L47[05:12:58] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: Added
'a coke oven' to inventory.
L48[05:37:05] ***
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L49[05:44:31] <Forecaster> hm, I thought
CO2 was lighter than air
L50[05:45:39] <Lizzy> wow, my laptop is
getting 1.2s pings to the gateway
L51[05:45:41] <Forecaster> but apparently
it's not
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L53[05:56:25] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L54[05:56:56] <Forecaster> %inv add
¬_¬
L55[05:56:59] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Added
'¬_¬' to inventory.
L56[05:59:46]
<MGR>
Forecaster, it is not
L57[06:05:09]
<MGR>
gamax92, GPU Compute is not just for bagel
L58[06:05:20]
<MGR> also,
I expect that people other than me can utilize it too
L59[06:05:30]
<MGR> I
mean, people do stuff with it in real life \o/
L60[06:05:37]
<MGR> OC
Folding @ Home?
L61[06:05:50] <Lizzy> there we go, fixed
the information page on my site
L62[06:35:04] <Lizzy> so nice when the £43m
building your sat in creaks in the 50mph winds
L63[06:36:01]
<MGR> Lizzy,
how far off the ground are you?
L65[06:36:08] <Lizzy> well
L66[06:36:14] <Lizzy> about half a
meter
L67[06:36:17]
<MGR> that's
concerning
L68[06:36:25] <Lizzy> cause i'm sitting on
my chair
L69[06:36:44]
<MGR> That
wasn't what I meant, but ?
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L72[06:37:47]
<MGR> I
meant how high was the floor off the ground
L73[06:37:53]
<MGR> But it
doesn't make a real difference
L74[06:38:15] <Lizzy> oh, i'm on the ground
floor
L75[06:38:44]
<Marcel>
Hey, ist it possible to use T1 Screen on a T3 Computer?
L76[06:38:46] <Lizzy> but there's 3 floors
above me
L77[06:39:22] <Forecaster> @Marcel:
yes?
L78[06:39:23] <Lizzy> yes
L79[06:39:27]
<MGR>
@Marcel yes
L80[06:39:29]
<Marcel> And
those bundled cables from project red ... simply connect them to
the Computer Case or over an Adapter?
L81[06:39:33]
<MGR> it
will run at T1 resolution though
L82[06:39:48]
<MGR> I
belive you connect them to the Computer Case with a T2 redstone
card
L83[06:39:49] <Forecaster> the case
L84[06:40:07]
<Marcel>
ok
L85[06:41:06]
<Marcel>
Then I should first start with a CC Test so that my lift works and
then building the entire base because I want this to be a
sub-programm for my main programm
L86[06:41:24]
<Marcel>
hopefully that I can get it running over a server/rack (never done
before)
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L91[06:46:18] <Lizzy> stupid wifi
L92[06:46:42] <Mimiru> damn.. the topic
sync didn't work
L93[06:47:07] <Mimiru> also... mother
fuckin party time...
L94[06:47:10] <Mimiru> tax refund hit
L95[06:47:24] <Lizzy> oh for fucks
sake
L96[06:47:27] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L97[06:47:29]
<MGR>
@Mimiru time for that fresh new Ryzen system?
L98[06:47:34] <Lizzy> wtf ips
L99[06:47:36] <Lizzy> urghh
L101[06:47:55] <Lizzy> oh
L102[06:48:05] <Lizzy> okay, another
refresh later and it all works fine again
L103[06:48:08] <Lizzy> phew
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<MGR>
@Mimiru check these out
L108[06:49:46] <Mimiru> Yeah, fuck that
shit
L109[06:49:47]
<MGR>
Honestly, these look ridiculously awesome
L110[06:49:47] <Mimiru> lol
L111[06:50:00]
<MGR>
?
L112[06:50:18] <Mimiru> yeah they look
plenty awesome...
L113[06:50:20] <Mimiru> but holy
shit
L114[06:50:21] <Mimiru> lol
L115[06:50:25]
<MGR>
??????????
L116[06:50:37] <Mimiru> ...
L117[06:50:43]
<MGR> Is it
the price?
L118[06:51:37] <vifino> it always
is.
L119[06:52:02] <Mimiru> I've got lotso f
money to spend on other stuff.. like getting my car running
again
L120[06:52:04]
<MGR> You're
talking to the guy who just spent $3,300 USD on a computer XD
L121[06:52:10] <Mimiru> and paying a bunch
on my mom's funeral service..
L122[06:52:20]
<MGR> Note:
This is the first time that happened, and it won't happen again for
a long time
L123[06:52:25]
<MGR>
Mimiru, you have my condolences
L124[06:52:41]
<MGR> I'm
sorry that you lost your mother
L125[06:52:47] <Mimiru> my uncle was
supposed to pay WAAAAAAAY back in august
L126[06:52:50] <Mimiru> and never
did
L128[06:52:59]
<MGR> That
makes it even worse
L130[06:53:57]
<MGR> That
one's cheaper
L131[06:54:31]
<MGR> and
dual M.2 slots!
L132[06:54:59]
<Marcel>
Mimiru? This new Mainboard is to bad ... only 64 GB RAM? To less!
Today each MB should support up to 512 GB and more
L133[06:55:14] <Mimiru> Meh, I only have
32gb anyway
L134[06:55:28]
<MGR>
@Marcel I have not seen a consumer motherboard support more than
128GB of RAM
L135[06:56:09]
<Marcel>
@MGR Because noboday wants to develop such a board. But it is
possible.
L136[06:56:24]
<MGR>
@Marcel yeah, but it would be dumb
L137[06:56:35]
<MGR> the
average computer user wouldn't hit 16 GB
L138[06:56:39] <vifino> I have a 9k euro
processor and paid 1/9th of it. A year before release.
L139[06:56:42]
<Marcel> And
eventually a bit more expensive ?
L140[06:56:48] <vifino> Consumer my
ass.
L141[06:57:11]
<Marcel> I
have 32 installed - DDR 4 and I am thinking of upgrading up to 64
GB
L142[06:57:12] <Mimiru> Ryzen only
supports 64 anyway
L143[06:57:20]
<MGR>
@Marcel a 512GB board would be crazy expensive
L144[06:57:27]
<MGR> plus,
where to put all the DIMMs?
L145[06:57:35] <Mimiru> (and unsupported
by consumer CPUs)
L146[06:57:42]
<MGR>
yeah
L147[06:57:57]
<MGR> I have
3 expansions planned for my computer
L148[06:58:00] <Forecaster> what would you
even do that would use 512 GB of ram....
L149[06:58:06]
<MGR> 1. A
kickass GPU instead of my AMD R7 370
L150[06:58:12]
<MGR> 2.
MOAR STOARAGE
L151[06:58:23]
<MGR> 3.
another 32GB of RAM to make 64GB
L152[06:58:37]
<MGR>
Forecaster, even a prosumer would be hard pressed to find a use for
that
L153[06:58:43]
<MGR> 512GB
is a server's domain
L154[06:58:56]
<Marcel>
Forcaster - with this you dan do big paints in Photoshop and Co.
?
L155[06:59:20]
<MGR> I
doubt that you would need 512GB though
L156[06:59:23]
<MGR> Stop
trolling
L157[06:59:25]
<Marcel> My
last one was arround 9 GB large and was loaded in my 16GB ram (DDR
3 in the past)
L158[06:59:40]
<MGR> that's
less than 1/50 512
L159[07:00:03]
<Marcel> it
is
L160[07:00:10] <Forecaster> I have 16Gb
and can use PS fine :P
L161[07:00:21]
<MGR>
Forecaster, definitely
L162[07:00:35]
<MGR> no 1
person needs 512GB of RAM
L163[07:00:52] <Forecaster> okay wat, I
just got an archive called "polymerTest" from an
employer
L164[07:00:54]
<MGR> In
fact, I doubt that there's a significant crowd that would use even
128GB
L165[07:01:00] <Forecaster> it's supposed
to be a "frontend test"
L166[07:01:08]
<MGR>
Servers can chew through terabytes though
L167[07:01:09] <Forecaster> but I have no
idea what the actual task is
L168[07:01:15]
<MGR>
lol
L169[07:01:22] <Forecaster> there aren't
any instructions or anything
L170[07:03:08] <Corded> * MGR sighs
L171[07:03:14]
<MGR> my day
is jam packed today
L172[07:03:19]
<MGR> work,
bank, GERTi, more work
L173[07:05:50] <Inari> Lizzy: Just don't
breath heavily after you make a phone call
L174[07:05:52] <Inari> That would be
odd
L177[07:06:56] <MichiBot> Wed Feb 22
07:17:41 CST 2017 @LizzyTheSiren: *breathes heavily and prepares to
make a phone call*
L178[07:07:34] <Lizzy> uhuh
L179[07:07:56] <Forecaster> I hate tests
with no instructions...
L180[07:08:02] <Forecaster> they're worse
than regular tests...
L182[07:08:05] <MichiBot> Wed Feb 22
14:27:19 CST 2017 @Kirinodere: "The MacBook Pro touch bar is
useless"
L183[07:18:30] <Mimiru> Oooh, I should by
a MacBook!
L184[07:18:38]
<MGR>
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L185[07:18:59]
<MGR> you
should get Ryzen
L186[07:19:34] <Mimiru> Nah, MacBook
sounds better
L187[07:19:44]
<MGR>
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
L188[07:19:57] <Mimiru> Search your
feelings, you know it to be true.
L189[07:20:13]
<MGR> IT'S
OVER MIMIRU, RYZEN HAS THE HIGH GROUND
L190[07:21:06] <Mimiru> :p
L191[07:21:23]
<MGR> YOU
OVERESTIMATE THE MACBOOKS POWER
L192[07:21:48]
<MGR>
seriously though, are you going to get Ryzen or the Macbook?
L193[07:22:24] <Mimiru> I'm not buying a
macbook..
L194[07:22:25] <Mimiru> lol
L195[07:22:30]
<MGR>
Excellent
L196[07:22:35]
<MGR> You
had me worried there for a minute
L197[07:22:36] <Mimiru> I actually DO need
a mac though..
L198[07:22:58]
<MGR>
...
L199[07:23:00] <Mimiru> but I could get
away with something much cheaper than a new macbook :P
L200[07:23:12] <Mimiru> I need to compile
mac stuff...
L201[07:23:33]
<MGR> What
mac stuff?
L202[07:23:51] <Mimiru> iOS apps, the mac
version of this game I've been working on forever
L203[07:24:15]
<MGR>
ooh
L204[07:24:23]
<MGR> What
does the game do?
L205[07:24:30] <Mimiru> Game stuff
L206[07:24:48]
<MGR> Well
yeah
L207[07:24:51]
<MGR> But
tell me more
L208[07:24:53] <Mimiru> It's the Hero MMO
a friend and I have been doing
L209[07:25:00]
<MGR>
ahh
L210[07:25:12]
<MGR> Not
really my thing, but sounds nice
L211[07:26:22] <Izaya> Mimiru: you can
probably get a cheap-ass laptop that will run OS suX
L212[07:26:41]
<MGR> Izaya,
finally something we can agree on ?
L213[07:26:45] <Izaya> MGR, want to know
something you won't want to?
L214[07:26:50] <Mimiru> I WAS running
osx86...
L215[07:27:04] <Mimiru> but eventually the
AMD kernels started to not work for me anymore
L216[07:27:08]
<MGR> Izaya,
I'm going to risk death and say yes
L217[07:27:20] <Izaya> I won't be getting
anything Ryzen
L218[07:27:28]
<MGR>
Ok
L219[07:27:34]
<MGR> Why
not?
L220[07:27:51] <Izaya> Waiting till I can
get a RISC-V workstation motherboard and get off the x86 crazy
train
L221[07:27:59]
<MGR>
Ok
L222[07:28:09]
<MGR> That's
not really a big deal for me
L223[07:28:27] <Izaya> I'm so sock of all
the bullshit
L224[07:28:31] <Izaya> s/sock/sick
L225[07:28:31] <MichiBot> <Izaya>
I'm so sick of all the bullshit
L226[07:28:36] <Izaya> shut up it's
1AM
L227[07:28:41]
<MGR>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L228[07:28:56] <Izaya> UEFI, Intel ME, AMD
PSP...
L229[07:29:14]
<MGR>
Ok
L230[07:29:35] <Skye> Izaya, shame the
talos workstation was too expensive
L231[07:29:44] <Izaya> Yeah that would've
been nice
L232[07:30:03] <Izaya> Would've been able
to run my x86 games too
L233[07:30:50]
<MGR> Like
MC
L234[07:30:59] <Izaya> No.
L235[07:31:05] <Izaya> I could use native
java
L236[07:31:16]
<MGR> oh
ok
L237[07:31:45] <Izaya> Not that I probably
would because I haven't even played MC in like a year
L238[07:32:14]
<MGR> I
know
L239[07:32:36]
<MGR> I was
going to follow that up with something, and then I forgot
what...
L240[07:40:58] <Skye> Izaya, I wonder how
emulation performance would be.
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L242[07:41:30] <Izaya> Skye: on POWER or
RISC-V?
L243[07:41:43] <Izaya> RISC-V can run x86
stuff at like 80% speed
L244[07:42:31] <vifino> wot?
L245[07:42:46] <Izaya> not RISC-V
L246[07:42:48] <Izaya> power
L247[07:42:51] <Izaya> shut up it's
1AM
L248[07:43:51] <vifino> ... and that is
special for you?
L249[07:43:57] <vifino> you've
weakened.
L250[07:44:14] <Izaya> it may horrify you
to know that I sleep at least 6 hours most nights
L251[07:46:14] <Skye> Izaya, shame... I
wish I was rich so I could throw money at such a thing.
L252[07:47:42] <Izaya> I wish I had any
ability to make any reasonable difference in the world.
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L256[07:59:10] <Ashindigo_> The
fuck?
L257[07:59:28]
<MGR>
?
L258[07:59:32] <Ashindigo_> My mini laptop
sounds like a lawn mower right now
L259[07:59:49] <Lizzy> maybe it's a
lawnmower in discuise
L260[08:00:27]
<MGR>
Ashindigo_, I had a laptop that could do a solid imitation of a jet
engine
L261[08:00:40]
<MGR> I was
10 meters away from it, and it was very audible
L262[08:01:15] <Ashindigo_> How big was
the laptop?
L263[08:01:56]
<MGR>
17"
L264[08:02:11]
<MGR> HP
Touchsmart ENVY 17-j153cl
L265[08:06:38] <Ashindigo_> Alright
L266[08:07:12]
<MGR>
?
L267[08:07:56] <Ashindigo_> Was
curious
L268[08:08:04]
<MGR>
Yeah
L269[08:08:19]
<MGR> Later
on, a BIOS update solved the noise, but made the laptop overheat
like crazy
L270[08:08:34]
<MGR> almost
any game made the CPU hit 100C
L271[08:08:44] <Izaya> cue him talking
about random shit that you pretend you are listening to
L272[08:08:58]
<MGR> that
was all I was going to say
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L274[08:09:17]
<MGR> so
how's that Izaya?
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L276[08:09:39] <LuMistry> Greetings
L277[08:09:44] <Ashindigo_> Howdy
L278[08:09:45]
<MGR> Hello
LuMistry
L279[08:10:03] <LuMistry> Hello
@MajGenRelativity and Ashindigo_, how are you?
L280[08:10:10]
<MGR> I am
well
L281[08:10:50] <Ashindigo_> I'm good
L282[08:11:02] <LuMistry> That is
nice
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L285[08:30:57]
<MGR> Ryzen
is topping the charts with only pre-orders ?
L286[08:31:15]
<MGR> I
smell incoming Intel price cuts
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L289[08:47:57]
<MGR> Inari,
what?
L290[08:48:03] <Inari> %inventory add
�
L291[08:48:03] <MichiBot> Inari: Added '�'
to inventory.
L292[08:49:05] <cloakable> :D
L293[08:49:13]
<MGR>
?
L296[08:50:43]
<MGR> what
game is that?
L297[08:50:54] <Inari> GTA5
L298[08:50:59]
<MGR>
ah
L299[08:56:26] <Ashindigo_> %inventory
list
L300[08:56:30] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_:
Lewdness, knife, "seed", enchanted cat claw of bleeding,
snuggles, no tea, 404 weapon not found, A mouldy pear, food, MGR,
sake kit kats, "Bukkit", Inari's collection of
"stuff", cabbages, a shaft-powered doll, inventory, a
headache inducer, shrugs, words, Forecaster, TACEATS2,
MajGenRelativity, Banhammer, seizing phone, a unique mod idea, a
flamingo, Mons pengin, eggs, term, I, nate, teabag, Inari,
%inventory, bago'dicks, S3, Sangar, Rage, a c
L301[08:56:49] <Inari> Blame Forecaster
for not coding a limit :p
L302[08:57:05]
<MGR> %stab
Forecaster
L303[08:57:06] *
MichiBot slaps Forecaster with A mouldy pear doing [6]
damage
L304[08:57:06] *
EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L305[08:57:31] <LuMistry> %stab
L306[08:57:32] *
MichiBot stabs with a headache inducer doing [7]
damage
L307[08:57:46] <LuMistry> so it does work
without a target
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L309[09:02:36] <Inari> %give LuMistry
random
L310[09:02:40] *
MichiBot gives LuMistry eggs from her inventory
L311[09:02:53] <LuMistry> thank you
Inari
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L314[09:10:40] <ds84182> %inventory add
std::variant
L315[09:10:42] <MichiBot> ds84182: Added
'std::variant' to inventory.
L316[09:11:21]
<MGR> sup
ds84182
L317[09:11:27] <ds84182> hey
L318[09:11:49]
<MGR> I
don't understand how your coprocessor idea would work
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L322[09:11:59]
<MGR> Are
you just talking more than 1 CPU SMP style?
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L324[09:12:15] <ds84182> Yes
L325[09:12:28]
<MGR> I
would probably edit that post to say that though
L326[09:16:20]
<MGR> as I
said in the issue comments, it's a good idea
L327[09:16:35]
<MGR> would
become even better if it could be paired with GPU compute, but
still a good idea even on its own
L328[09:16:45]
<MGR>
Because multithreading in 1 machine = good
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L344[09:19:57] <Forecaster> I didn't put a
check if there was an argument no
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L350[09:20:38] <LuMistry> Forecaster: I'm
not saying you should have
L351[09:20:42] <LuMistry> I was just
testing it
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L357[09:21:59] <LuMistry> So many quits
and joins
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L362[09:26:48] <Lizzy> netsplits by the
looks of it
L363[09:27:42] <LuMistry> Only some of
them show up as that though
L364[09:27:49] <LuMistry> I feel like
something else is going on
L365[09:28:12] <Lizzy> well, the cause of
it is most likely the same
L366[09:28:23] <LuMistry> probably
L367[09:28:27] <Vexatos> %inventory add
John
L368[09:28:29] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Added
'John' to inventory.
L369[09:28:35] <LuMistry> Average latency
times to my nodes remain largely unaffected
L370[09:29:54] <Lizzy> it quits with *.net
*.split when the server connections themselves time out, if a
single server is having issues most of the clients may time out but
the server-connections probably just hang in there a little bit
longer past the momentary blip
L371[09:30:17] <LuMistry> Ah
L372[09:31:12] <Forecaster> I probably
should have though
L373[09:31:28] <LuMistry> Forecaster:
why?
L374[09:31:44] <Forecaster> because
attacking nothing makes no sense?
L375[09:31:55] <LuMistry> That's
relative
L376[09:32:01] <LuMistry> But I don't see
the harm in it
L377[09:34:21] <Forecaster> well, for one
thing, attacking nothing somehow damages the item used :P
L378[09:35:07] <LuMistry> What?
L379[09:35:42]
<Forecaster>
when added to the inventory an item has 5 "uses"
L380[09:35:58]
<Forecaster>
currently the only thing that consumes uses is the stab
command
L381[09:36:25] <LuMistry> 1. That's
cool
L382[09:36:37] <LuMistry> 2. %give should
also consume uses
L383[09:36:46]
<Forecaster>
why?
L384[09:36:58]
<Forecaster>
you don't give somene 1 fifth of an item
L385[09:37:00] <Ashindigo_> %give should
remove the item
L386[09:37:02]
<Forecaster>
you give them all of it
L387[09:37:02] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: No
item found to give away.
L388[09:37:10]
<Forecaster>
give does remove the item
L389[09:37:17] <Lizzy> %stab
Ashindigo_
L390[09:37:18] <LuMistry> Oh ok
L391[09:37:21] *
MichiBot hits Ashindigo_ with S3 doing [11] damage
L392[09:37:23] <LuMistry> %stab
Lizzy
L393[09:37:23] *
MichiBot stabs Lizzy with � doing [8] damage
L394[09:37:28] <LuMistry> %inventory
list
L395[09:37:28] <MichiBot> LuMistry:
Lewdness, knife, "seed", enchanted cat claw of bleeding,
snuggles, no tea, 404 weapon not found, A mouldy pear, food, MGR,
sake kit kats, "Bukkit", Inari's collection of
"stuff", cabbages, a shaft-powered doll, inventory, a
headache inducer, shrugs, words, Forecaster, TACEATS2,
MajGenRelativity, Banhammer, seizing phone, a unique mod idea, a
flamingo, Mons pengin, term, I, nate, teabag, Inari, %inventory,
bago'dicks, S3, Sangar, Rage, a coke oven
L396[09:37:31] <Ashindigo_> %stab
Lizzy
L397[09:37:32] *
MichiBot slaps Lizzy with inventory doing [2] damage
L398[09:37:43] <Lizzy> :<
L399[09:37:53] <LuMistry> %stab
Ashindigo_
L400[09:37:54] *
MichiBot hits Ashindigo_ with enchanted cat claw of bleeding doing
[8] damage
L401[09:37:56] *
Lizzy runs to vifino and hides in his lap
L402[09:38:04] <Ashindigo_> %stab
LuMistry
L403[09:38:04] *
MichiBot hits LuMistry with Forecaster doing [8]
damage
L404[09:38:14] <LuMistry> %stab
Ashindigo_
L405[09:38:14] *
MichiBot hits Ashindigo_ with Rage doing [13] damage
L406[09:38:18] <Michiyo> Oh FFS!
L407[09:38:21] <LuMistry> that's
humorous
L408[09:38:22] <Michiyo> My keyboard is
out of stock
L409[09:38:28] <LuMistry> I don't
experience rage
L411[09:38:52] *
Ashindigo_ stabs LuMistry
L412[09:38:59]
<MGR> It
shows in stock for me
L413[09:39:19] *
LuMistry powers up his nanosuit body
L415[09:39:38] <LuMistry> Depending on
where you live in 1 hour to a few days, some really exciting stuff
is going to happen to you Ashindigo_
L416[09:39:42] <Forecaster> shows in stock
for me too
L417[09:40:14] <Ashindigo_> Oh really now
=)
L418[09:40:14] <Michiyo> Oh, it shows in
stock from a 3rd party seller
L419[09:40:30] <LuMistry> Ashindigo_:
yes
L420[09:42:20] *
Ashindigo_ sheaths a magical blade
L421[09:43:38] <LuMistry> Magic is not
real
L422[09:45:18]
<MGR> If the
winning continues at this rate, AMD will be hitting a Donald Trump
level of winning - where there'll be so much winning, we'll be
begging AMD to stop. That's until Vega - that is.
L423[09:45:49] <Ashindigo_> Shush
you
L424[09:45:56] <Forecaster> %inv add
magic
L425[09:45:59] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
Added 'magic' to inventory.
L426[09:46:02] <LuMistry> Who are you
talking to Ashindigo_ ?
L427[09:46:23] <Ashindigo_> You
mistry
L428[09:46:55] <LuMistry> I prefer my full
name
L429[09:47:02] <LuMistry> That is why I
made it short :)
L430[09:47:07] <Lizzy> YuMistry
L431[09:47:08] <Ashindigo_> *You
LuMistry
L432[09:47:14] <LuMistry> Thank you
L433[09:47:22] <LuMistry> Lizzy, clever,
but no
L434[09:47:48] <Lizzy> yes
L435[09:48:15] <LuMistry> No
L436[09:48:17] <Lizzy> yes
L437[09:48:31] <Forecaster> %choose yes or
no
L438[09:48:32] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
yes
L439[09:48:37] <Forecaster> sorry Lu, it's
yes
L440[09:48:41] <LuMistry> %choose yes or
no
L441[09:48:41] <MichiBot> LuMistry:
no
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L443[09:48:48] <LuMistry> sorry Forecaster
it's no
L444[09:48:56] <Ashindigo_> %choose yes or
no
L445[09:48:56] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_:
no
L446[09:49:03] <LuMistry> 2 for me
L447[09:49:11] <Ashindigo_> %stab
MichiBott
L448[09:49:11] *
MichiBot slaps MichiBott with words doing [10] damage
L449[09:49:11] *
EnderBot2 high-fives MichiBot
L450[09:49:19] <LuMistry> And that was
without me even hacking the bot
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L452[09:49:53] <Ashindigo_> %choose
L453[09:49:54] <MichiBot>
Ashindigo_:
L454[09:50:04] *
Ashindigo_ facepalms
L455[09:50:05] <Forecaster> I'll only
accept the first result
L456[09:50:18] <Forecaster> otherwise you
could just keep rolling for infinity
L457[09:50:32] <LuMistry> I accept Best 3
out of 5
L458[09:50:37] <LuMistry> %choose yes or
no
L459[09:50:37] <MichiBot> LuMistry:
yes
L460[09:50:45] <LuMistry> this is the
deciding roll then
L461[09:50:49] <LuMistry> %choose yes or
no
L462[09:50:49] <MichiBot> LuMistry:
yes
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L464[09:50:57] <Forecaster> haha
L465[09:51:02] <Ashindigo_> :D
L466[09:52:37] <Michiyo> lol...
L467[09:53:03] <Forecaster> so much for
the "no anger" thing :P
L468[09:53:32] <Ashindigo_> %inventory add
YuMistry
L469[09:53:32] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_:
Added 'YuMistry' to inventory.
L470[09:53:43]
<LuMistry> I
did not experience anger
L471[09:53:49]
<LuMistry> I
was merely adapting around the problem
L472[09:54:02]
<LuMistry>
%inventory remove YuMistry
L473[09:54:02] <MichiBot> LuMistry:
Removed item from inventory
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L475[09:54:42] <LuMistry> and now we can
resume normal operation
L476[09:55:53] <Inari> ~oc signals
L477[09:56:10] <Ashindigo_> ~w
signals
L478[09:56:30] <Forecaster> ocdoc is
missing
L479[09:56:32] <Ashindigo_> ...
L480[09:56:36] <Forecaster> :O
L481[09:57:23] <LuMistry> It died in the
net split
L482[09:57:45] <Ashindigo_> %give OCDoc
Max Revive
L483[09:57:45] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: No
item found to give away.
L484[09:59:25] <Vexatos> gamax92, ocdoc is
dead D:
L485[09:59:29] <Michiyo> hang on
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L487[10:00:04] <Michiyo> k
L488[10:00:41] <LuMistry> It hath made its
voyage back to the land of the immaterial from death
L489[10:00:48] <Ashindigo_> ~oc
signals
L492[10:03:15] <MichiBot>
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L494[10:08:00] <LuMistry> I will watch
that later
L495[10:08:25] <Inari> Psh Rights, they're
taking our jobs
L496[10:08:48] *
Inari drags LuMistry to the stake
L497[10:09:05] <LuMistry> Inari: LOL
L498[10:09:10] <LuMistry> As if you could
drag me anywhere
L499[10:09:19] *
LuMistry brushes Inari off
L500[10:09:24] *
Ashindigo_ assists Inari
L501[10:09:37] *
LuMistry punches Ashindigo_ into the distance
L502[10:10:00] <Inari> I'm bored
L503[10:10:12] *
Ashindigo_ comes back to the area
L504[10:10:30] <LuMistry> Ok
L505[10:10:39] *
Inari gets hired for company that makes toy dolls that makes
sounds
L506[10:10:52] *
Inari hides code in the codebase that randomly after a year or two
they will start making moan sounds instead
L507[10:11:42] <Ashindigo_> Of
course
L508[10:11:46] <LuMistry> That would be
disturbing
L509[10:12:19] <Forecaster> I think such
timekeeping is a bit beyond such toys
L510[10:12:24] <Ashindigo_> Depends on the
targeted age group
L511[10:12:44] <Inari> Forecaster:
Nah
L512[10:12:59] <Inari> We'll put in a
sample of radioactive elements that decays in about 2 years
L513[10:13:10] <Inari> And once thats gone
it flips to a different sound
L514[10:13:22] <Forecaster> sounds
difficult to sneak into the spec...
L515[10:13:26] <Inari> ;D
L517[10:16:09] <Inari> Haha
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L519[10:21:58] <LuMistry> hello
payonel
L520[10:22:00] <LuMistry> hooow are
you?
L521[10:22:03] <payonel> o/ :)
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L523[10:22:33] <LuMistry> Anything new
with you?
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L525[10:22:59] <payonel> i spent like 5
hours yesterday reading about how keyboard creates scancodes, which
become keycodes in the kb driver, which become byte sequences by
the keymap and written to the current tty
L526[10:23:15] <LuMistry> And why did you
do that?
L527[10:23:36] <payonel> and...i learned
that you simply cannot (afaiu) detect key release, nor any modifier
key press (e.g. control) in user space
L528[10:23:57] <payonel> if you have an
application running in a window manager (e.g. X), you can be told
by your window manager
L529[10:24:03] <payonel> which has the
permissions to know
L530[10:24:10] <payonel> but, you cannot
on your own
L531[10:24:12] <LuMistry> How does OC
manage that then?
L532[10:24:24] <payonel> it's a java
process, in a window manager (e.g. X)
L533[10:24:29] <payonel> and java is being
told by X
L534[10:24:33] <LuMistry> ah
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L536[10:25:22] <payonel> anyways, this is
a pretty huge disappointment to me
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L538[10:25:34] <LuMistry> And why is
that?
L539[10:25:37] <payonel> i'm building my
own oc emulator, to be fully console based
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L541[10:25:42] <Corded> * MGR mutters
about GPU computing
L542[10:25:54] <LuMistry> Console
based?
L543[10:25:57] <payonel> it has come
pretty far, i'm excited about it
L544[10:26:02] <LuMistry> As in Xbox/PS4,
or command line?
L545[10:26:06] <payonel> it's purely a
console program
L546[10:26:12] <payonel> no, console
shell, terminal
L547[10:26:19] <LuMistry> That's what I
thought
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L550[10:26:44] <payonel> i can boot to the
openos shell, i have resolution worked out, uft8 conversions and
coloring all worked out
L551[10:27:04] <payonel> lots of stuff
works really well. but i'm only sending key press events, and not
even all of them
L552[10:27:08] <LuMistry> That's
nice
L553[10:27:11] <payonel> so that's what i
was trying to work on last night
L554[10:27:12] <LuMistry> That last part
isn't
L555[10:28:20] <payonel> it's a c++
program. the primary reasons i made it were 1. memory profiling,
and 2. for the fun of it
L556[10:28:35] <LuMistry> Memory
profiling?
L557[10:29:27] <payonel> but there are lot
of other benefits i'll have from it, such as >a purely command
line interface, i could write tests that run oc externally (e.g.
memory profiling across 1000s of runs)
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L560[10:29:58] <payonel> LuMistry: memory
profiling -- to see where memory allocation occurs and how
much
L561[10:30:26] <LuMistry> oh ok
L562[10:31:07]
<MGR>
payonel, want to know a way to reduce OpenOS's memory
consumption?
L563[10:31:13] <payonel> sure
L564[10:31:17]
<MGR>
VRAM
L565[10:31:31]
<MGR> want
to know what other really cool thing VRAM could let you do?
L566[10:31:39] <payonel> that doesn't
reduce memory consumption
L567[10:31:47] <Forecaster> reducing
memory usage != adding more memory
L568[10:31:56]
<MGR> It
reduces MAIN memory consumption
L569[10:32:28] <payonel> not all machines
have a gpu
L570[10:32:39] <payonel> i can't expect
openos to have more available memory
L571[10:32:51]
<MGR> A.
VRAM in OC doesn't have to map to "real" VRAM
L572[10:32:53] <payonel> because it could
be run on a machine without a gpu
L573[10:32:59] <payonel> i'm not saying it
does
L574[10:33:08] <payonel> i'm talking about
"machines" in oc don't all have gpus
L575[10:33:25]
<MGR>
oh
L576[10:34:00]
<MGR> You
could make it optional
L577[10:34:15] <payonel> and if it is
optional -- then i have to code for the case it is not
available
L578[10:34:28]
<MGR> the
case for it not being available is the case right now
L579[10:34:36] <payonel> right - so,
nothing gained
L580[10:34:41]
<MGR> unless
they have a GPU
L581[10:34:54] <payonel> yeah, but that
doesn't give ME, the os dev, more ram
L582[10:35:00] <payonel> that gives YOU,
the user,more ram
L583[10:35:06]
<MGR> Is
that a bad thing?
L584[10:35:10] <payonel> doesn't help
me
L585[10:35:13] <payonel> :)
L586[10:35:24]
<MGR> Tell
people to put GPUs in their machines ?
L587[10:35:33] <Forecaster> ...
L588[10:35:40] <payonel> i have to have an
os that runs on low ram, for systems with low ram. else openos is
not an option
L589[10:35:54]
<MGR> Yeah,
but this would help also with the high end too
L590[10:35:59]
<MGR> It's
about scaleability
L591[10:36:18] <Forecaster> you can
already scale by adding more regular ram...
L592[10:36:22]
<MGR>
supporting very low RAM to allowing you to extract every last drop
of performance out of your system
L593[10:36:25] <Michiyo> $1,865.85
:/
L594[10:36:38]
<MGR>
Forecaster, but want to know something else really cool that would
go great with VRAM?
L595[10:36:54] <Michiyo> I fucking swear
if you say gpu compute...
L596[10:37:03] *
Ashindigo_ munches on popcorn
L597[10:37:10] <payonel> mgr: 2x T3 ram
has so much free memory that the tiny ~160k footprint of openos is
meaningless
L598[10:37:18] <payonel> Michiyo: #?
L599[10:37:24] <payonel> s/#/$/
L600[10:37:31]
<MGR>
General Processing Unit Computation
L601[10:37:35] <Michiyo> ...
L602[10:37:44]
<MGR>
payonel, this is true
L603[10:37:52]
<MGR> but
VRAM would still be cool
L604[10:38:01]
<MGR> and so
would General Processing Unit Computation
L605[10:38:05]
<MGR> please
don't ban me Mimiru
L606[10:38:36] <payonel> vram would be
nice for double buffering, that is true
L607[10:38:40] <Skye> VRAM would be neat
for screen stuff
L608[10:38:41]
<MGR>
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
L609[10:38:53]
<MGR> Why am
I muted?
L610[10:39:01] <Skye> Maybe... Having a
small shader system would be interesting too
L611[10:39:11]
<Mimiru> I
have no idea if that's going to work, but it seems not
L612[10:39:13]
<MGR> Skye,
it would be super interesting
L613[10:39:15]
<Mimiru>
fucking discord.
L614[10:39:23] <LuMistry> I can see your
messages @MajGenRelativity
L615[10:39:28]
<MGR>
wew
L616[10:39:44]
<MGR>
payonel, VRAM and General Processing Unit Computation open up so
many options
L617[10:39:58] <payonel> mgr: btw, the gpu
compute stuff is very likely not going to happen, like 99%
sure
L618[10:40:01]
<MGR> even
limited VRAM and slow compute would provide enormous
potential
L619[10:40:02] *
Ashindigo_ has never hit the memory limit in OC
L620[10:40:07] <payonel> not in a parallel
manner
L621[10:40:17] <payonel> every oc machine
needs to be single threaded
L622[10:40:19]
<MGR>
payonel, gpu compute doesn't work in a serial manner though
L623[10:40:29]
<MGR> and
why does every machine need to be single threaded???
L624[10:40:38] <Skye> Well
L625[10:40:41] <Skye> If done right
L626[10:40:48] <Forecaster> it should work
if you set the permissions to explicitly prevent that group from
sending text messages in this channel
L627[10:40:48] <Skye> Aka not using
lua
L628[10:41:01]
<MGR>
Uh
L629[10:41:03]
<MGR> Please
no
L630[10:41:15]
<Mimiru>
Forecaster, I did.
L631[10:41:21] <Skye> Shaders could work
on separate threads.
L632[10:41:21]
<MGR> Yeah,
it was distressing
L633[10:41:28]
<Mimiru> It
only works if I remove it from @.everyone
L634[10:41:40] <Forecaster> huh
L635[10:41:40]
<MGR> Skye,
yeah GPU compute would not work with Lua
L636[10:41:52]
<MGR> I was
thinking OpenCL or something, but I'm not currently qualified to
chart specifics
L637[10:42:07] <Skye> That's a bad
idea.
L638[10:42:14] <Skye> Even worse than
lua
L639[10:42:17] <payonel> even if it wasn't
lua. it would take work to refactor the oc machine state scheduler
to allow for n threads per machine. right now it is just one
machine state (and thus 1 thread) per "machine"
L640[10:42:22]
<MGR>
?
L641[10:42:28]
<MGR>
payonel, but think of the payoffs!
L642[10:42:39] <Skye> Go with a custom
ISA
L643[10:42:48] <payonel> meh, just farm it
out
L644[10:43:08]
<MGR>
payonel, but network overhead can reduce efficiency by a lot
L645[10:43:11]
<MGR> also
space constraints
L646[10:43:21]
<MGR> Skye,
I'm not sure how that would work though
L647[10:43:22] <Michiyo> well.. that's
fucking annoying
L648[10:43:27] <Michiyo> so fuck that I
guess.
L649[10:43:35]
<MGR>
Although I don't know how OpenCL works either XD
L650[10:44:13] <Skye> Also... I don't
thinkyou need to have everything on a single thread, but it would
be complex if not.
L651[10:44:33]
<MGR> I
don't understand how one would single thread GPU compute
L652[10:44:39] <payonel> mgr: the only
thing i support is a feature request for the data card to have some
more math api
L653[10:44:40]
<MGR>
They're literally polar opposites
L654[10:44:50]
<MGR>
payonel, but why though
L655[10:44:52] <payonel> mgr: that's not
true :/
L656[10:44:57] <Skye> By Shaders I mean
something that runs on the GPU
L657[10:45:08] <Skye> And could run on the
client
L658[10:45:21] <Skye> So.... No need to
mess with networking
L659[10:45:27]
<MGR>
Uh
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L661[10:45:38]
<MGR> There
would be for synchronization and stuff
L662[10:45:44] <Skye> Well yeah
L663[10:45:50] <Skye> But not constant
data transfer
L664[10:45:53] <Skye> Efficient
L665[10:45:57]
<MGR> This
is true
L666[10:46:30] <payonel> mgr: why must it
be parallel?
L667[10:46:37] <payonel> and by parallel i
mean concurrent
L668[10:46:46]
<MGR> Hold
on
L669[10:46:51]
<MGR> Why
must what be parallel
L670[10:47:04]
<MGR> Asking
to make sure we're on the same page
L671[10:47:23] <Skye> GPU shaders could be
little programs that run asynchronously
L672[10:47:24] <payonel> "how one
would single thread gpu compute"
L673[10:47:58]
<MGR> It
should be parallel because that is what GPUs are
L674[10:48:02]
<MGR>
massive thread machines
L675[10:48:06] <payonel> should !=
must
L676[10:48:14]
<MGR> If you
force only 1 thread, it would be near 0 speedup
L677[10:48:19] <Skye> Wrong.
L678[10:48:30]
<MGR> I'm
confused
L679[10:48:39] <Skye> If it was one thread
that was independent of Lua restrictions
L680[10:48:48] <payonel> yep, that ^
L681[10:48:57]
<MGR> Ok,
but that isn't really GPU compute
L682[10:48:59] <payonel> yes it would be
runtime limited as per all oc machines
L683[10:49:09] <payonel> mgr: quiet for a
sec -- stay on point
L684[10:49:12]
<MGR> that's
just "hey let's unchain CPU performance"
L685[10:49:36] <payonel> if we run a math
algorithm in lua code, there are lots of reasons that'll run slower
than a "math api" call
L686[10:50:11] <payonel> we can still time
limit the math call, we can still cpu limit the math call, but it
can be order of magnitude faster (depending on what the api is, and
data, etc)
L687[10:50:49] <payonel> so, "0
speedup" is inaccurate, that's the argument i'm making, math
api is a good place for this
L688[10:51:20]
<MGR> You
make a valid point
L689[10:51:23] <Skye> There could be two
types on GPU program
L690[10:51:24] <payonel> so, now let's
talk about why concurrency is so necessary? because you think gpu's
irl are fast because of large # of threads?
L691[10:51:27]
<MGR> But
math API != GPU compute
L692[10:51:32] <Skye> Shader and
compute
L693[10:51:41] <Skye> Shader runs on the
client
L694[10:51:45] <payonel> mgr: how is it
not?
L695[10:51:52]
<MGR>
Because you're not using the GPU
L696[10:51:52] <Skye> Compute runs on the
server
L697[10:51:56] <payonel> so?
L698[10:52:12]
<MGR> how
can it be GPU compute if it doesn't use the GPU?????
L699[10:52:18] <payonel> your oc gpu isn't
a real gpu either, it doesn't matter
L700[10:52:28]
<MGR> yeah,
but it at least does what a GPU does
L701[10:52:37] <payonel> heck, the gpu in
my real-life computer may not really be a gpu, i dont even know if
i'm real
L702[10:52:53] <payonel> mgr: and why does
that matter to a user?
L703[10:53:06]
<MGR>
Because confusing naming systems
L704[10:53:15] <payonel> what is
confusing?
L705[10:53:17]
<MGR> If
you're going to name something, it should be consistent with what
it does
L706[10:53:25] <Skye> Uhhhh
L707[10:53:42]
<MGR> If you
say "This API lets you do GPU Compute", and people
realize it doesn't use the GPU, it looks wrong
L708[10:53:59] <payonel> what has a bad
name, gpu? why is that a bad name? because it doesn't "gpu
compute"? so it's not a gpu unless it does everything single
thing your nvidie card api can do?
L709[10:54:21]
<MGR> That's
not what I'm saying
L710[10:54:26] <payonel> mgr: name a
single "gpu compute" function
L711[10:54:43]
<MGR>
Program IRL?
L712[10:55:15]
<MGR>
SmallLuxGPU
L713[10:55:20]
<MGR>
Photoshop
L714[10:55:23]
<MGR> Movie
editing stuff
L715[10:55:39] <payonel> no a single
"thing" you would process on the gpu, or a single
mathematical thing you would do on the gpu and not your cpu
L716[10:56:06]
<MGR> A
complex mathematical operation on a large quantity of data that can
be manipulated with SIMD
L717[10:56:22]
<MGR>
ideally with non-dependent operations for maximum
scaleability
L718[10:56:25] <payonel> ok, what
mathematical operatoin
L719[10:56:29] <Skye> Then only useful
thing for OC is graphics shaders
L720[10:56:30] <payonel> name one
L721[10:56:31]
<MGR>
SAD
L722[10:56:40]
<MGR> Sum of
Absolute Differences
L723[10:56:54] <payonel> ok, and why can't
that be in the math api?
L724[10:57:01] <payonel> or on the data
card?
L725[10:57:03]
<MGR> Let me
clarify
L726[10:57:10]
<MGR> I'm
not saying the math API is a bad thing
L727[10:57:34]
<MGR> I'm
saying calling the math API "GPU Compute" when it doesn't
use the IRL GPU is a bad thing
L728[10:57:45] <payonel> i didnt say i
would call it gpu compute
L729[10:57:49] <payonel> i wouldnt
L730[10:57:52]
<MGR>
OK
L731[10:57:59]
<MGR> Let me
elaborate on my position for a minute
L732[10:58:04] <payonel> ok
L733[10:58:05] <payonel> :)
L734[10:58:19]
<MGR>
There's 2 things I would like to be added to OpenComputers
L735[10:58:27]
<MGR> 1.
Multithreading
L737[10:59:21]
<MGR>
Potentially with the ability to add more memory, and deal with NUMA
issues, because realism
L738[10:59:45]
<MGR> 2.
Acceleration of complex math operations
L739[10:59:59] <payonel> btw, the 4k
memory example made me laugh
L740[11:00:10] <payonel> freaking bios
alone takes 20k
L741[11:00:20] <payonel> lua...it's greedy
as hell
L742[11:00:28]
<MGR>
Ideally this would be done using the IRL GPU because of the
potential for a lot of processing power to be harnessed
L743[11:00:50]
<MGR> In the
case of that being implemented, a software fallback could be adding
that uses the FPUs in every CPU I know of
L744[11:01:25] <glasspelican> how may irl
servers have a gpu
L745[11:01:25] *
Ashindigo_ grumbles about unrelated stuff
L746[11:01:31]
<MGR> If,
for some reason, utilization of the IRL GPU is a no, then I suppose
a "math API" would work
L747[11:01:50]
<MGR>
glasspelican, idk, but a fair portion should have at least an
iGPU
L748[11:02:08]
<MGR> And
that ends the elaboration of my position for right now
L749[11:02:34] <glasspelican> it would be
better to describe it as a display driver then a gpu
L750[11:02:35] <payonel> coprocessors is a
reasonable request -- each would have its own machine state. the
refactor to not require an eeprom is plausible, the instruction
byte stream could be provided by another machine state
L751[11:03:20] <payonel> mgr: we can't
throttle the irl gpus like we can the "machine state"
thread in the game, so that's not going to happen
L752[11:03:28]
<MGR> Why
not?
L753[11:03:35] <payonel> idk, ask
nvidia
L754[11:03:47]
<MGR> Can't
you just kill the thread if it takes too long?
L755[11:04:03]
<MGR> you do
it with the CPU right now
L756[11:04:12] <Corded> * MGR goes afk to
make food for a few minutes
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L758[11:05:00] <payonel> we also control
every single line of instruction - we hook in to give an abstract
representation of "cpu clock speed"
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L760[11:05:18] <Skye> here's an idea,
"GPU compute" can mean basic computation that happens
asyncronously to everything else
L761[11:07:46] <Skye> however,
"shaders" that actually affect what's drawn could somehow
be tied to some real life refresh rate or some way to keep all
clients in sync
L762[11:07:55]
<MGR> Skye,
I'm not against that idea, but if we go that route, it shouldn't be
called "GPU compute"
L763[11:08:04] <Skye> yes it would
L764[11:08:16]
<MGR> but it
doesn't use the IRL GPU
L765[11:08:27]
<MGR>
payonel, and why can't we do that with GPU compute?
L766[11:09:32] <Skye> it's GPU compute
because it uses the same virtual system as shaders
L767[11:09:41]
<MGR>
what?
L768[11:11:00] <Skye> GPU compute is a
side effect of making graphics tasks more general
L769[11:11:33]
<MGR> tbh,
if it doesn't use the real GPU, it should be called the math API or
something else
L770[11:11:43] <Skye> NONONONONO
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L773[11:12:56]
<MGR> to
quote Cell, "but why though?"
L774[11:14:59] <Skye> OC is low
performance
L775[11:15:03] <glasspelican> if it
exposes a gpu like coprocessor then it makes sense to call it gpu
compute, mirroring reallife
L776[11:15:04] <Skye> no high performance
allowed
L777[11:15:15]
<MGR>
yes
L778[11:15:17] <payonel> if you want math
done faster, suggest math/data card features. if you want gpu sync
improvements, tack onto the gpu vram feature request we already
have. if you want concurrency, no going to happen in a single
machine state
L779[11:15:23]
<MGR> that's
why I'm making an uproar over GPU compute
L780[11:15:40] <Inari> Don't spill weird
juices over my manga
L781[11:15:45]
<MGR>
payonel, I thought you like coprocessors
L782[11:15:47] <Sangar> o/
L783[11:15:53] <payonel> if you want
leased components for shared computation without network cost..the
coprocessor request is interesting, i'm still thinking about how i
feel about it
L784[11:15:55]
<MGR> hello
Sangar, how are you?
L785[11:16:08] <payonel> mgr: the
coprocessors idea is not concurrency
L786[11:16:11] <Sangar> tells \o/
L787[11:16:13] <payonel> in a single
machine state
L788[11:16:28]
<MGR> that's
not what I was looking for?
L789[11:16:29] <glasspelican> if you want
to use an irl gpu that adds allot of complexity for little gain,
and opens an entire class of security problems
L790[11:16:51] <payonel> we're not going
to use the real gpu, please end that part of this discussion
L791[11:16:56] *
Temia scrolls up.
L792[11:16:58]
<MGR> but
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
L793[11:17:02] *
Temia eyerolls so fucking hard.
L794[11:17:08]
<MGR> it
could make things so much faster
L795[11:17:12]
<MGR> even
with heavy limits
L796[11:17:23] <Temia> MGR, you are
approaching this as an end user.
L797[11:17:42]
<MGR>
yes
L798[11:17:57] <Temia> That is precisely
why it'll never work.
L799[11:18:07] <glasspelican> MGR once the
irl gpu compute is implimented let me know what your server address
is so i can mine bitcoines on it
L800[11:18:37] *
Ashindigo_ steals pelicans odea
L801[11:18:40]
<MGR>
glasspelican, it would be very slow
L802[11:18:57]
<MGR> I
would never endorse unlocking the entire GPU to an end user
L803[11:19:08] <payonel> mgr: we've
already explained it. 1: we can't limit sufficiently, and 2: not
all servers have gpus so we'd have to have a cpu solution
anyways
L804[11:19:26]
<MGR> Why
can't you kill the thread if it takes too long?
L805[11:19:47] <Temia> That's not the
problem.
L806[11:20:00]
<MGR> then
what is?
L807[11:21:25] <payonel> mgr: we can't
slow it down, or limit how much bandwidth it is using
L808[11:21:38]
<MGR>
OK
L809[11:21:42] <Temia> You know what
happens without those limitations?
L810[11:21:46] <Temia> Look at
ComputerCraft.
L811[11:21:50]
<MGR> but if
you stop it from taking up too much total time, then why does it
matter?
L812[11:22:01] <glasspelican> Bitcoin is
what happens
L813[11:22:01]
<MGR> It
runs full throttle for 1% of a second
L814[11:22:02] <Temia> LOOK AT
COMPUTERCRAFT.
L815[11:22:03] <payonel> mgr because it 5
seconds spurts, the host machine becomes unusable
L816[11:22:22]
<MGR> make
the clamps tighter than 5 seconds
L817[11:22:26]
<MGR> make
them 0.5 seconds
L818[11:22:30] <payonel> doesn't
matter
L819[11:22:34] <payonel> .1 second
even
L820[11:22:45] <payonel> a single
tick
L821[11:22:48] <payonel> doesn't
matter
L822[11:22:51]
<MGR>
??????
L823[11:22:58] <glasspelican> GPU context
switches are extreamly expensive opperations
L824[11:22:59] <payonel> imagine i have 20
oc machines
L825[11:23:19] <payonel> each is going to
max gpu for 1 tick, then sleep until next 1s
L826[11:23:22] <payonel> all of them do
it
L827[11:23:28] <payonel> now, gpu is 100%
used
L828[11:23:41]
<MGR> And
you're sure you can't limit the usage
L829[11:23:47] <payonel> of course you
can't
L830[11:23:58]
<MGR> I
don't understand why you can do it for a CPU and not a GPU
L831[11:24:13] <payonel> because we are
stepping the cpu over the oc machine state
L832[11:24:16] <payonel> we use debug
hooks
L833[11:24:22] <payonel> and
L834[11:24:28] <payonel> you can
"nice" a process or thread
L835[11:24:33]
<MGR> then
do that with a GPU
L836[11:24:34] <payonel> so many things
you have control over
L837[11:24:40] <Temia>
ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
L838[11:24:40] <payonel> sure, call
nvidia
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L840[11:25:19] <Temia> Okay, I'm done with
this clown. I admire your persistence tho, Payonel
L841[11:25:23]
<MGR> I will
find a way
L842[11:25:29]
<MGR> It'll
just take a while
L843[11:25:34] <payonel> Temia: :)
L844[11:25:37] <glasspelican> the gpu does
not run an operating system, there is no "nice"
L845[11:25:44]
<MGR> In the
meantime, co-processors please
L846[11:25:59]
<MGR> If I
can't have 100 threads, even 2 would still be nice
L847[11:26:00] <payonel> that's a
reasonable request. not sure where i stand on that
L848[11:26:12] <payonel> this isn't
concurrency on the same machine state
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L850[11:26:17] <payonel> so 1 thread per
machine state
L851[11:26:18] <payonel> period
L852[11:26:21] <Sangar> why not build a
second computer and have them talk?
L853[11:26:27]
<MGR>
Sangar, networking overhead
L854[11:26:35] <payonel> Sangar: because
"network noise!!!11!!" :)
L855[11:26:43] <Sangar> if that's higher
than your computation then it doesn't warrant multithreading
L856[11:26:56]
<MGR>
payonel, I wasn't asking for more than 1 thread per CPU
L857[11:27:13] <payonel> mgr: i just want
you to understand the limits here
L858[11:27:26] <payonel> there isn't going
to be concurrency on a single machine state
L859[11:27:40]
<MGR> What's
the difference between that and multiple states on 1
computer?
L860[11:28:18]
<MGR> I'm
aware that 2+ CPUs would have to deal with NUMA issues and memory
copying overhead, etc.
L861[11:28:34] <payonel> think of it like
1 state per cpu
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L863[11:28:49]
<MGR>
Ok?
L864[11:28:57] <payonel> and
"state" has to own some data
L865[11:29:18]
<MGR> so,
there would be some memory overhead
L866[11:29:25]
<MGR> which
would make sense
L867[11:29:27] <payonel> 1. the
components, 2. the event queue, 3. memory limits, 4. cpu runtime
limits, 5. cpu throttling
L868[11:29:46]
<MGR>
yeah
L869[11:29:52] <payonel> maybe a few other
things - i'm not in support of subdividing any of that, nor adding
concurrency to that
L870[11:29:58]
<MGR> a
component can't be accessed simultaneously by 2 CPUs
L871[11:30:20] <Xilandro> Why would
it
L872[11:30:20]
<MGR> but so
long as I can have the 2 CPUs running concurrently and capable of
passing data by computer.pushSignal(), I'm happy
L873[11:30:37] <payonel> right, which is
essentially a network call
L874[11:30:53]
<MGR>
because that way they can still have separate memory address spaces
but be synchronized
L875[11:31:02]
<MGR>
wouldn't it be faster than a network call though?
L876[11:31:07] <payonel> maybe
L877[11:31:08]
<MGR> It
wouldn't have to pass through relays and stuff
L878[11:31:22] <payonel> it is potentially
faster than a network call
L879[11:31:31] <payonel> just keep in
mind, we simulate everything already
L880[11:31:47] <payonel> you're assuming
too much about the network calls
L881[11:32:11]
<MGR> please
elaborate on this
L882[11:32:18] <payonel> i dont care about
the potential speed up with the coprocessor request
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L884[11:32:32] <payonel> would it be
faster? maybe. i don't think it'd be slower
L885[11:33:27]
<MGR> if you
can appropriately multi-thread, why would it not be faster?
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L887[11:33:46] <payonel> but cooperative
sharing of a component is interesting. the memory distribution
isn't necessary really. they could "take" from the same
pool - whatever, it's a level of complexity that isn't necessary
but interesting
L888[11:33:58] <payonel> mgr: because
that's already happening
L889[11:34:09]
<MGR>
what?
L890[11:34:39] <payonel> if you have 2
machines running, they each of their own state already
L891[11:34:52] <payonel> sending a network
signal from A to B vs sending a coprocessor signal from A to
B
L892[11:35:03] <payonel> it's the same
thing -- abstractly speaking
L893[11:35:27]
<MGR> there
isn't overhead from relays?
L894[11:35:37] <payonel> why use a
relay?
L895[11:35:59]
<MGR>
because that stops computers from messing with each other's
components and stuff
L896[11:36:25] <Sangar> and multiple
states wouldn't? ^.-
L897[11:36:36] <payonel> Sangar: they want
to ..what's the word
L898[11:36:46] <payonel> um
L899[11:36:51] <Sangar> (they would)
L900[11:37:16]
<MGR> they
would because you would have to assign components
L901[11:37:32] <Inari> Circuity would be
nicer in that regard, at least if I understand it correctly
:P
L902[11:37:49] <Sangar> it would, if i had
the motivation to continue it :P
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L905[11:38:02]
<MGR> If
relays really introduce no overhead, then what about shared
memory?
L906[11:38:14] <Sangar> but it's kinda...
i dunno. it feels so clunky to use, and i have no good ideas how to
improve that
L907[11:38:14] <Xilandro> Sangar, in all
seriousness, what are the odds of OC getting any more actual
content before, say, Summer?
L908[11:38:15]
<MGR> That
way you wouldn't have to push signals to copy the data
L909[11:38:27] <Sangar> Xilandro, ask vex
or payo
L910[11:38:44]
<MGR> You
would have to deal with race conditions and stuff though
L911[11:39:02] <Sangar> if i cba to work
on oc instead of tis3d it'd probably involve a 1.11 rewrite-ish
kinda thing, and that would more likely than not at least start out
with *less* features
L912[11:39:18] <Inari> Clunky how?
L913[11:39:37] <Xilandro> So a lot of the
features that were sort of okayed on the issue tracker are now
probably not going to happen (For 1.7.10 at least)?
L914[11:39:41] <Sangar> Inari, having to
configure all the things, iteration time of program changes
L915[11:40:22] <Sangar> not by me anyway,
if someone implements them, makes a pr and someone merges it, sure
:P
L916[11:40:40] <Xilandro> Alrighty
L917[11:40:48] <Xilandro> I'll just close
mine because I dont' think Vex is interested in learning
Scala
L918[11:40:55] <Xilandro> And payo seems
to be mostly doing OS fixes and optimzations
L919[11:41:00] <Inari> Why close it
L920[11:41:06] <Xilandro> them
L921[11:41:11] <Inari> Why close
them
L922[11:41:35] <Xilandro> and because it
was at least a year ago when I was told to open them as a
reminder
L923[11:41:44] <Xilandro> And if nothing
is coming from them, then no point in leaving them open
L924[11:41:58] <Inari> Also no point in
closing them unless they ar einvalid, rejected, or completed,
imo
L925[11:42:11] <Sangar> ^
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L927[11:43:06] <Xilandro> Vexatos,
assuming you pick up development of OC, do you plan on adding a
rack mounted upgrade container?
L928[11:43:14] <Xilandro> At any
point
L929[11:45:33] <payonel> Sangar: isn't
there a cs word that means to give exclusive rights to a
resource?
L930[11:45:39] <Xilandro> Not to mention
we never got to the point of the rack having integrated relay and
power distributors
L931[11:46:14] <payonel> mgr: there would
be no real shared memory, it would be partitioned
L932[11:46:56]
<MGR>
payonel, dangit
L933[11:47:05] <Sangar> payo, uh, locking?
:x
L934[11:47:14]
<MGR> real
shared memory would require multiple threads per machine
state?
L935[11:47:25] *
Temia facepalm.
L936[11:47:40] <Xilandro> Temia, /ignore
exists for a reason
L937[11:47:46] <Temia> Yeah.
L938[11:48:14] <Temia> And I can count my
blessings that I'm on a client that allows ignoring based on
message content.
L939[11:48:29] <payonel> mgr: it wouldn't
require more threads on a single state, but it would introduce race
conditions, and we'd have to add sync mechanisms
L940[11:48:35] <payonel> meetings,
bbl
L941[11:48:39] <payonel> Sangar: also,
HI!
L942[11:48:42] *
payonel is afk
L943[11:49:01]
<MGR>
payonel, have the players handle the race conditions and sync
mechanisms
L945[11:49:35]
<MGR> I have
a degree in Computer Networking
L946[11:50:52] <Temia> I am in doubt you
got anything out of it though.
L947[11:50:58]
<MGR> I also
have less free time than I want, which impacts the amount of stuff
I can do
L948[11:51:12] <Temia> Beyond an inflated
sense of purpose.
L949[11:51:15]
<MGR> Temia,
my programming courses were not extensive, and did not cover
multi-threading
L950[11:51:36]
<MGR> I
paged over it in the book, which is why I know a little, but I have
never attempted it, so I lack in-depth knowledge
L951[11:51:42]
<MGR> Which
is why I'm asking questions
L952[11:51:51] <Sangar> haha, hi afk payo
;)
L953[11:54:02]
<MGR> Temia,
I'm at least trying to learn as I go
L954[11:55:07] <Vexatos> Xilandro, I know
Scala very, very well, don't worry
L955[11:55:19] <Xilandro> Neat
L956[11:55:22] <Vexatos> Almost as well as
Java, anyhow
L957[11:55:36] <Vexatos> Sangar, you got
that test world to repro?
L958[11:55:40] <Vexatos> Anyways, brb
dinner
L959[11:55:49] <glasspelican> MGR would
you be able to achieve your goal using the event and/or coroutine
apis?
L961[11:57:26]
<MGR>
glasspelican, those don't let you do real multi-threading
though
L962[11:59:10] <glasspelican> grab
event.timer and use it to switch between tasks, that is what your
operating system is doing under the hood
L963[11:59:38]
<MGR>
glasspelican, I'm not attempting to queue multiple tasks
L964[11:59:55]
<MGR> I'm
attempting to get concurrent execution in a single OC computer box
added
L965[12:00:27]
<MGR>
Preferably through both co-processors with/without (with
preferable) shared memory, and limited access to GPU
Computing
L966[12:02:25]
<20kdc>
glasspelican: ...it's still cooperative multitasking, though.
Luckily out-of-time errors can be caught (but they have to be dealt
with pretty quickly).
L967[12:05:32] <Sangar> Vexatos, yeah,
will test tomorrow/weekend
L969[12:06:51] <Temia> He says he's trying
to learn yet still clings to impossible concepts he doesn't
understand...
L970[12:07:05]
<MGR> Temia,
please present one so i may learn from it
L971[12:07:24] <Vexatos> Xilandro, to
answer your question: No
L972[12:07:27] *
Temia points at the backbuffer and returns to her
coffee.
L973[12:07:30] <Xilandro> There, it's
rejected
L974[12:07:32] <Xilandro> Now I can close
it
L975[12:07:50]
<MGR> Temia,
I agreed to table GPU compute
L976[12:08:14]
<MGR> I'm
not going to pursue it further until I can learn more and conduct
internal investigations
L977[12:08:23]
<MGR> Other
than that, I'm not sure what you're referring to
L978[12:11:30]
<20kdc>
OpenComputers cannot reliably access a GPU.
L979[12:11:51]
<20kdc> Just
figured that should be noted.
L980[12:12:10]
<MGR> @20kdc
yes
L981[12:12:19]
<MGR> There
would need to be a software fallback
L983[12:17:24] <Forecaster> gasp, a
thing!
L984[12:17:38]
<MGR>
ooh
L985[12:17:44]
<MGR> what
mod is that?
L987[12:17:47]
<MGR>
Tis3D?
L988[12:17:50] <Sangar> yep
L989[12:17:50] <Temia> :D
L990[12:17:54]
<MGR>
cool
L991[12:18:02] <payonel> mgr: re: player
handles race conditions: shared memory race conditions is something
lua simply cannot deal with. we'd have to lock ALL memory during
state execution, and thus state would degrade to serial execution
_anyways_
L992[12:18:17]
<MGR>
Ok
L993[12:18:35]
<MGR> So
coprocessors would have to use signals to share data with each
other
L994[12:18:38] <payonel> yes
L995[12:18:46]
<MGR>
hmmmmm, ok
L996[12:18:51] <Temia> If I ever get into
MC again, I'm definitely going to have to play around more with
TIS-3D.
L997[12:18:53]
<MGR> Still
worth it to add though
L998[12:19:55] <Sangar> now that it has a
terminal it's almost resembling something useful :x
L999[12:20:00]
<MGR> even
with a minimal latency decrease, it would still allow for a space
density increase
L1000[12:20:44] <Xilandro> Sangar, can we
send messages with that to another setup?
L1001[12:21:43] <Sangar> Xilandro, sure,
just pipe it through infrared modules
L1002[12:21:55] <Xilandro> Neat, what's
the range on thos
L1003[12:22:02] <Sangar> all it does it
output the input line as numbers to its neighboring modules. and
reads number from neighbors and prints those as chars
L1004[12:22:08] <Sangar> uhh, good
question
L1005[12:22:36] <Sangar> 48
L1006[12:22:38] <Sangar> probably
L1007[12:22:53] <Xilandro> Okey
L1008[12:22:57] <Sangar> easy to relay
tho
L1009[12:23:00] <Xilandro> Aye
L1010[12:23:02] <Xilandro> In left out
right
L1011[12:23:12] <Sangar> ayup
L1012[12:23:25] <Xilandro> laser modules
(OpenRadio) would be neat though
L1013[12:29:19] <Vexatos> Sangar: "I
could port OC to 1.11 which 50% of OC users would love to see or I
could fix critical bugs in OC like 100% of OC users would love to
see..... OR I COULD JUST ADD NEW FEATURES TO THIS MOD WHICH NOONE
ACTUALLY USES except for me"
L1014[12:29:43] <Vexatos> I love it
L1015[12:29:51] <Vexatos> Make TIS-3D
great again! D:
L1016[12:29:57] <Temia> My plans towards
implementing an overly complex time-share mainframe will come to
fruition +_+
L1017[12:29:57]
<MGR> I
would shoot for bugfixes
L1018[12:30:00] <Ashindigo_> Add new
features!
L1019[12:30:05] <Xilandro> Vexatos,
implying it wasn't great at one time
L1020[12:30:06] <Sangar> Vexatos, tis3d
best mod :3
L1021[12:30:19] *
Ashindigo_ should add tis3d to the pack he's playing
L1022[12:30:26] <Sangar> if i keep
neglecting oc long enough, maybe people will start using it
:x
L1023[12:30:33] <Sangar> (tis3d that
is)
L1024[12:30:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, that is
not how it works
L1025[12:30:44] <Vexatos> Today, I had
another unviable mod idea because apparently I always have those.
Nice.
L1026[12:31:13]
<MGR>
Vexatos, what was the idea?
L1027[12:31:23] <Vexatos> MGR:
Curses
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L1029[12:31:40] <Xilandro> Why wouldn't
those be viable
L1030[12:31:48]
<MGR> as
in magic?
L1031[12:31:53] <Vexatos> as in
curses
L1032[12:31:58]
<MGR>
because Witchery has those
L1033[12:32:00] <Sangar> as for laser
integration, tis3d does have an api :p
L1034[12:32:05] <Vexatos> Witchery curses
are boring as heck
L1035[12:32:07] <Xilandro> XDjackieXD, ^
get on it =D
L1036[12:32:10] <Ashindigo_> Curse you
for not making it
L1037[12:32:12] <Ashindigo_> ;)
L1038[12:32:24]
<MGR>
Vexatos, and why is it unviable?
L1039[12:32:39] <Vexatos> Because my
ideas are always so elaborate it would require coding skill I do
not have
L1040[12:32:50] <Vexatos> Like fancy GL
rendering magic :X
L1041[12:33:04] <Xilandro> Plenty of
visible source mods to learn from
L1042[12:33:18] *
Ashindigo_ is also jealous of vexatos's ability to come up with mod
ideas
L1043[12:33:20] <Vexatos> And a god damn
OCR
L1044[12:33:32] <Vexatos> (custom one,
even)
L1045[12:33:34]
<MGR>
Vexatos, I feel your pain
L1046[12:33:47]
<MGR> I
have had many ideas I've had to either trash or postpone due to
lack of skill/time
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L1048[12:34:09] <Xilandro> Sangar,
Quantum Memory Module. Craft them in pairs, a la Linked Card, and
anything that exists on one, exists on the other
L1049[12:34:25] <Sangar> who needs mod
ideas when they have a behemoth of a mod that breaks from old age
and being ported a few times too many .-.
L1050[12:34:27] <Xilandro> Because low
level quantum computing
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L1052[12:34:38] <Vexatos> Well my bee
addon just relies on a new feature in forestry that will never be
in forestry, my steam power mod requries accurately simulating
pneumatics and hydrodynamics, my oil recovery mod requires the
same
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L1055[12:35:02] <Vexatos> my curse mod
requires OCR and an intuitive way to write characters in general as
well as fancy graphics
L1056[12:35:21] <Vexatos>
(pseudo-OCR)
L1057[12:35:25] <Vexatos> (you know what
I mean :X)
L1058[12:35:34] <payonel> real ocr is
pseudo ocr :)
L1059[12:35:35] <payonel> haha
L1060[12:35:44] <Vexatos> I mean not
actually using a camera
L1061[12:35:48]
<MGR>
Vexatos, just simulate that stuff
L1062[12:35:48] <Mimiru> %stab
L1063[12:35:51] <Vexatos> but detecting
text written with a mouse pointer
L1064[12:35:58] <payonel> ah, fair
enough
L1065[12:35:58] <Vexatos>
"text"
L1066[12:35:59] <Vexatos> shapes
L1067[12:36:08] <Vexatos> you write
curses with shapes, was the plan
L1068[12:36:15] <Xilandro> "An
intuitive way to write characters" What about having a
'spellbook' of sorts, and when right clicked, it's 'active', and
each key on your keyboard represents a word of power, so people
just need to remember 2-3 keypresses
L1069[12:36:18] <Mimiru> %test
L1070[12:36:18] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Success
L1071[12:36:21] <Mimiru> %stab
L1072[12:36:25] *
MichiBot flails at nothingness with no tea
L1073[12:36:29] <Vexatos> Xilandro,
"word of power" wrong game, Sir
L1074[12:36:34] <Xilandro> Just an
example
L1075[12:36:35] <Sangar> Xilandro, i
scrapped my idea for a "linked module" because, well, it
just seemed too boring. combining it with memory might be
interesting, main issue i see is that the two machines wouldn't be
synchronized (as modules are amongst each other), so it'd be really
hard to work with (who reads when and so on)
L1076[12:36:36] <Xilandro> In your
example, sh apes
L1077[12:36:53] <Vexatos> not just
shapes, really
L1078[12:37:00] <Vexatos> It's uuuh
L1079[12:37:00] <Sangar> seeing as
reading when there's nothing there blocks
L1080[12:37:03] <Vexatos> more
complicated
L1081[12:37:08] <Xilandro> Sangar, just
read whatever's on there at the time the read call is made. If it's
out of sync, the user needs to program better
L1082[12:37:16] <Vexatos> writing words
is supposed to be quite a task
L1083[12:37:22] <Vexatos> Writing isn't
going to be easy
L1084[12:37:23] <Vexatos> at all
L1085[12:37:47] <Sangar> Xilandro, that's
my point, they can't program better, because they can't test if
there's something there -- without just locking up
L1086[12:38:07] <Xilandro> Vexatos, have
you ever owned a DS? (Not a 3DS)
L1087[12:38:19] <Vexatos> Xilandro, DS
Lite, DSi and 3DS
L1088[12:38:26] <Xilandro> Ever play a
game called Lost Magic
L1089[12:38:26]
<MGR>
eyy
L1090[12:38:28]
<MGR>
just like me!
L1091[12:38:30] <Vexatos> Nope
L1092[12:38:40]
<MGR> my
DS Lite broke though
L1093[12:38:43] <Vexatos> Same
L1094[12:38:52] <Sangar> enihoo,
foodtime
L1095[12:39:03] <Xilandro> It was a game
that you drew runes. There were, I believe 6. Tier 1 spells had 1
symbol, T2 had 2, and T3 had 3
L1096[12:39:14] <Vexatos> The control pad
broke
L1097[12:39:20] <Vexatos> after 1000
hours of games :X
L1098[12:40:02] <Vexatos> Xilandro, you'd
use shapes to draw words that noone else has ever drawn before...
Curses aren't hardcoded or anything
L1099[12:40:11] <Vexatos> It's uuuh
L1100[12:40:13] <Xilandro> But they'd
have to be
L1101[12:40:18] <Vexatos> nope
L1102[12:40:19] <Vexatos> :3
L1103[12:40:20] <Xilandro> Given that you
still have to program what they can make
L1104[12:40:24] <Vexatos> w e l l
L1105[12:40:28] <Xilandro> Even Ars
Magicka had limits
L1106[12:40:29] <Vexatos> not...
really....
L1107[12:41:00] <Vexatos> It's up to you
to decide how much your word is worth and how much you sacrifice
for it
L1108[12:41:10] <Vexatos> of
yourself
L1109[12:41:27] <Xilandro> Right, and
once I figure out what it's worth to me, how is the effect it
produces generated?
L1110[12:42:38] <Vexatos> The word
depends on the uuuh let's call them runes, strokes, whatever, their
order, orientation, and of course meaning... the meaning is rather
malleable so it might not quite be what you expected
L1111[12:43:05] <Vexatos> it would be
"hardcoded" in a sense that there are so many options
that you won't care about it
L1112[12:43:31] *
Temia hmms and looks at the glyphs in Hymmnos.
L1113[12:43:41] <Vexatos> glyph is a nice
word
L1114[12:44:55] <Vexatos> the idea is
that you can just invent completely new words on the fly
L1115[12:45:01] <Vexatos>
intuitively
L1116[12:45:17] *
Temia flips through the grammar guide for Ar Ciela.
L1117[12:45:20] <Vexatos> By knowing the
meaning of the components (letters? Glyphs=?)
L1118[12:45:31] <Forecaster> like
roguelite
L1119[12:45:34] <Forecaster> :D
L1120[12:45:44] <Inari> Which game are we
talking about :p
L1121[12:45:50] *
Forecaster hides
L1122[12:46:05] *
Vexatos throws a soft adobe brick at Forecaster
L1123[12:46:20] <Vexatos> Inari, my
imagination
L1124[12:46:27] <Inari> Boo
L1125[12:46:27] <Inari> :p
L1126[12:46:34] <Vexatos> It's a really
good game
L1127[12:46:38] <Vexatos> but only I can
play it
L1128[12:47:02] <Vexatos> And then I lie
in my bed trying to sleep and suddenly I come up with this new idea
for something insanely cool I'll never be able to make
L1129[12:47:14] <Vexatos> and then I lay
there for hours playing through the entire mod
L1130[12:47:31] <Forecaster> Fine! I'll
make my own imagination! with blackjack and hookers!
L1131[12:47:32] <Forecaster> wait
L1132[12:47:37] <Forecaster> I don't like
either of those things
L1133[12:47:51] <Vexatos> And it actually
only takes like ten minutes because for some reason by brain is
good at simulating stuff :X
L1134[12:47:56] <Inari> I like casinos,
or well a certain style of casino anyway
L1135[12:48:09] <Vexatos> I once dreamt I
wake up and get ready for an exam only to wake up and get ready for
the exam
L1136[12:48:31] <Vexatos> that was
fun
L1137[12:49:17] <Inari> A lewd
exam?
L1138[12:49:30] <Vexatos> analytical
chemistry yesterday
L1139[12:49:44] <Vexatos> That dream
happened yesterday between 6:10 and 6:40 a.m.
L1140[12:49:50] <Vexatos> roughly
L1141[12:53:16] <Xilandro> I want a
casino mod
L1142[12:53:17]
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L1143[12:53:22] <Xilandro> That is
literally not a thing on modern minecraft
L1144[12:53:30] <Xilandro> No trolly shit
like that one mod back in whatever it was
L1145[12:53:38] <Xilandro> Just proper
things like slots, blackjack, poker, etc
L1146[12:54:15] <Vexatos> No gambling in
a game for children D:
L1147[12:54:33] <Xilandro> What is life,
if but a gamble
L1148[12:56:40] *
Sangar looks at chance cubes
L1149[12:57:08] <Vexatos> that's not
gambling, that's intentionally trolling yourself
L1150[12:57:44] <Xilandro> I stand
correct, Universal Coins mod has a slot machine
L1151[12:57:49] <Xilandro>
corrected*
L1152[12:57:56] <Xilandro> Even still, I
want a proper casino mod
L1153[12:57:56] <Sangar> :P
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L1155[12:58:21] <Forecaster> %roll
1d20
L1156[12:58:23] <Michiyo> Ugh...
RadioShack Webinar :/
L1157[12:58:24] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
[7]
L1158[12:58:33] <Forecaster> aw no
L1159[12:58:41] <Michiyo> %roll
1d100
L1160[12:58:42] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
[9]
L1161[12:58:43] <Xilandro> Michiyo, if
there's not an exam afterwards, turn it on, go take a nap
L1162[12:58:49] <Xilandro> %roll
1d10000
L1163[12:58:49] <MichiBot> Xilandro:
Invalid dice format (Eg 1d6)
L1164[12:58:55] <Xilandro> ffs
L1165[12:58:58] <Xilandro> %roll
1d1000
L1166[12:58:58] <MichiBot> Xilandro:
Invalid dice format (Eg 1d6)
L1167[12:59:03] <Xilandro> %roll
1d256
L1168[12:59:03] <MichiBot> Xilandro:
[11]
L1169[12:59:05] <Sangar> %roll
1d-10
L1170[12:59:05] <MichiBot> Sangar:
Invalid dice format (Eg 1d6)
L1171[12:59:07] <Sangar> awww
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L1173[12:59:10] <Forecaster> can't exceed
3 digits
L1174[12:59:14] <Xilandro> Ah
L1175[12:59:19] <Forecaster> %roll
999d999
L1176[12:59:19] <MichiBot> Forecaster:
[3, 8, 13, 4, 5, 13, 12, 9, 5, 13, 4, 12, 11, 8, 9, 7, 6, 6, 3, 5,
7, 7, 12, 5, 8, 4, 6, 8, 7, 4, 6, 7, 3, 3, 7, 5, 7, 9, 11, 3, 9,
11, 10, 7, 4, 8, 4, 9, 13, 4, 3, 5, 3, 13, 5, 10, 10, 4, 5, 13, 9,
8, 4, 4, 11, 9, 11, 3, 10, 9, 10, 11, 11, 3, 6, 5, 9, 12, 7, 13, 3,
11, 6, 3, 11, 13, 9, 2, 12, 6, 7, 11, 8, 2, 2, 10, 8, 9, 8, 3] =
744
L1177[12:59:26] <Xilandro> Erm
L1178[12:59:29] <Xilandro> That's not 999
numbers
L1179[12:59:29] <Forecaster> uh
L1180[12:59:33] <Michiyo> lol...
L1181[12:59:38] <Forecaster> I'm kinda
glad it's not :P
L1182[12:59:40] <Xilandro> Lol
L1183[12:59:42] <Michiyo> Me too :D
L1184[12:59:45] <Xilandro> Try it in PM,
see if it works
L1185[12:59:49] <Forecaster> no
L1186[12:59:55] <Forecaster> I wrote it
:P
L1187[13:00:00] <Forecaster> it will do
the same thing
L1188[13:00:15] <Forecaster> the
array.toString() only outputs that many values
L1189[13:00:28] <Forecaster> but the sum
should be correct
L1190[13:00:45] <Michiyo> %roll
20d2
L1191[13:00:45] <MichiBot> Michiyo: [2,
1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2] = 34
L1192[13:00:48] <Michiyo> heh
L1193[13:01:14] <Michiyo> should do a
coin toss one day
L1194[13:01:16] <Forecaster>
"it" being the roll command
L1195[13:01:22] <Xilandro> %roll
1d2
L1196[13:01:22] <MichiBot> Xilandro:
[2]
L1197[13:01:24] <Xilandro> Tails
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L1199[13:01:47] <Ashindigo_> %roll
1d999
L1200[13:01:48] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_:
[12]
L1201[13:02:11] <Xilandro> Is the lua
module still enabled on it
L1202[13:02:29] <Michiyo> yeah
L1203[13:02:30] <Forecaster> %lua
print("yes")
L1204[13:02:30] <MichiBot> yes
L1205[13:02:34] <Ashindigo_> %lua
print("yes")
L1206[13:02:34] <MichiBot> yes
L1207[13:02:43] <Michiyo> %lua
print("no")
L1208[13:02:43] <MichiBot> no
L1209[13:02:47] <Michiyo> nope.
L1210[13:02:51] <Vexatos> %lua
print([========[Selene when :3]========])
L1211[13:02:51] <MichiBot> Selene when
:3
L1212[13:03:03] <Michiyo> As soon as you
PR it
L1213[13:03:05] <Michiyo> fully working
:D
L1214[13:03:11] <Michiyo> cause I
tried.
L1215[13:03:12] <Michiyo> and nop
L1216[13:03:14] <Xilandro> %lua function
cointoss(times) local heads = 0 local tails = 0 for flips = 1,
(times or 1) do coin = math.random(2) if coin == 1 then heads =
heads + 1 else tails = tails + 1 end return heads, tails end
L1217[13:03:14] <MichiBot> main:1: 'end'
expected near <eof>
L1218[13:03:26] <Xilandro> Eh?
L1219[13:03:27] <Xilandro> That's
proper
L1220[13:03:31] <Vexatos> So far there
have been two bots with working selene so I know it's possible
:P
L1221[13:03:36] <Xilandro> %lua function
cointoss(times) local heads = 0 local tails = 0 for flips = 1,
(times or 1) do coin = math.random(2) if coin == 1 then heads =
heads + 1 else tails = tails + 1 end return heads, tails end
end
L1222[13:03:45] <Xilandro> %lua
print(cointoss(100))
L1223[13:03:45] <MichiBot> 0, 1
L1224[13:03:59] <Michiyo> that's great,
how many of them were jnlua, with the selene files in the
jar?
L1225[13:04:19] <Ashindigo_> %lua
print(cointoss(5))
L1226[13:04:19] <MichiBot> 1, 0
L1227[13:04:23] <Xilandro> %lua local
headz, tailz = cointoss(100) print(headz .. " and " ..
tailz)
L1228[13:04:23] <MichiBot> 0 and 1
L1229[13:04:27] <Xilandro> Weird
L1230[13:04:38] <Xilandro> It doesn't
like the times I guess
L1231[13:05:30] <Inari> Because you
return in the loop :P
L1232[13:05:34] <Inari> Not after
it
L1233[13:05:38] <Xilandro> %lua function
diceroll(amt, sides, mod) return (amt or 1) * (math.random(sides or
6) + (mod or 0)) end
L1234[13:05:44] <Xilandro> Ah
L1235[13:06:04] <Xilandro> %lua function
cointoss(times) local heads = 0 local tails = 0 for flips = 1,
(times or 1) do coin = math.random(2) if coin == 1 then heads =
heads + 1 else tails = tails + 1 end end return heads, tails
end
L1236[13:06:10] <Xilandro> %lua local
headz, tailz = cointoss(100) print(headz .. " and " ..
tailz)
L1237[13:06:10] <MichiBot> 44 and
56
L1238[13:06:11] <Michiyo> I have package
loaded locally, but requires dies cause the files aren't in the
path, and I dunno how to use the jar as the path
L1239[13:06:13] <Xilandro> \o/
L1240[13:06:26] <Xilandro> Thanks
Inari
L1241[13:06:40] <Inari> No problem, take
this, its dangerous to go alone
L1242[13:06:42] <Inari> %give Xilandro
random
L1243[13:06:47] <Xilandro> %lua
diceroll(2,20,6)
L1244[13:06:47] <MichiBot> 50
L1245[13:06:53] <Xilandro> wat
L1246[13:06:54] <Inari> Or maybe
don't
L1247[13:06:57] *
Inari kicks MichiBot
L1248[13:07:02] <Xilandro> %inv
L1249[13:07:02] <MichiBot> Xilandro:
Unknown sub-command '' (Try: add, remove, list)
L1250[13:07:05] <Xilandro> %inv lst
L1251[13:07:05] <MichiBot> Xilandro:
Unknown sub-command 'lst' (Try: add, remove, list)
L1252[13:07:07] <Xilandro> %inv
list
L1253[13:07:14] <Xilandro> is broke
L1254[13:07:19] <Xilandro> Or empty
L1255[13:07:20] <Xilandro>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1256[13:07:49] <Ashindigo_> %inventory
list
L1257[13:07:55] <Inari> Broke
L1258[13:08:01] <Vexatos> Michiyo, well,
how does it load other lua files?
L1259[13:08:09] <Vexatos> load it the
same way ._.
L1260[13:11:03] <Michiyo> Vexatos, I did,
and as soon as it hits require in the init where it pulls in the
parser, it dies
L1262[13:13:27] <Inari> %inventory add
a
L1263[13:13:30] <Inari> Hrm
L1264[13:14:20] <Ashindigo_>
%restart
L1265[13:14:35] <Michiyo> You don't have
perms for that :P
L1266[13:14:36] <Michiyo> also...
L1267[13:14:37] <Michiyo> The database
file is locked (database is locked)
L1268[13:14:38] <Vexatos> Michiyo, then
ask someone who knows how to add stuff to the path .-.
L1269[13:14:46] <Michiyo> OR...
L1270[13:14:49] <Michiyo> I could just
not care!
L1271[13:14:51] <Michiyo> :D
L1272[13:15:00] <Vexatos> :<
L1273[13:15:00]
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L1274[13:15:21] <Ashindigo_> sudo
%restart
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L1276[13:16:22]
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L1277[13:16:26] <Michiyo> Oooooh...
RadioShack is talking about kicking Sprint to the curb
L1278[13:16:28] <Michiyo> woooo
L1279[13:17:09] <Vexatos> what is
radioshack D:
L1280[13:17:53] <Ashindigo_> Its a shack
full of radios
L1281[13:18:12] <Forecaster> what is
sprint
L1282[13:18:22] <Forecaster> %stab
L1283[13:18:23] *
MichiBot flails at nothingness with a flamingo
L1284[13:18:28] <Forecaster> yay
L1285[13:18:29] <Forecaster> :>
L1286[13:18:42] <Inari> %inv list
L1287[13:18:45] <MichiBot> Inari:
Lewdness, knife, "seed", enchanted cat claw of bleeding,
snuggles, no tea, 404 weapon not found, A mouldy pear, food, MGR,
sake kit kats, "Bukkit", Inari's collection of
"stuff", cabbages, a shaft-powered doll, inventory,
shrugs, words, Forecaster, TACEATS2, MajGenRelativity, Banhammer,
seizing phone, a unique mod idea, a flamingo, Mons pengin, term, I,
nate, teabag, Inari, %inventory, bago'dicks, S3, Sangar, Rage, a
coke oven, ¬_¬, �, std::vari
L1288[13:18:45] <Inari> Still borked
:<
L1289[13:18:47] <Inari> Or not
L1290[13:18:54] <gamax92> geez
L1291[13:19:51] <Michiyo> %g
radioshack
L1293[13:19:59] <Michiyo> %g sprint phone
company
L1294[13:20:01] <MichiBot> Michiyo:
https://www.sprint.com/ - *Cell Phones, Mobile
Phones & Wireless Calling Plans from Sprint*: "Shop for
cell phones & wireless calling plans from Sprint. Switch to
Sprint today and find great deals on unlimited data plans for the
whole family."
L1295[13:20:03] <Michiyo> :P
L1296[13:20:18] <Forecaster> but they
have great deals :O
L1297[13:21:08] <gamax92> Teamviewer can
actually run over a lan connection
L1298[13:21:43] <gamax92> It just for
some reason has an offset input
L1299[13:25:54] <XDjackieXD> Xilandro: I
should be able to do that :P (also I have to look into AE2
integration again as AE2 is on 1.10 now)
L1300[13:27:03] <Xilandro> Any chance of
a laser module on 1.7.10 :3
L1301[13:27:10] <Ashindigo_> But refined
storage is on 1.10.2!
L1302[13:27:20] <Ashindigo_> It has built
in fluid storage
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Michiyo sets mode: +v on XDjackieXD
L1306[13:43:43] <Michiyo> That'll do
until someone with flag perms can make it auto
L1307[13:43:50] <Michiyo> cause iirc I
can't
L1308[13:47:08] <XDjackieXD> thx
^.^
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L1310[13:48:22] <Michiyo> !flags +Vv
XDjackieXD
L1311[13:48:26] <Michiyo> nope..
lol
L1312[13:48:55] <Kilobyte> ew XDjackieXD,
go away ;)
L1313[13:48:59] <XDjackieXD> xD
L1314[13:49:45] <Lizzy> grr, today's SE
update isn't announced yet :(
L1315[13:50:27] <Ashindigo_> SE?
L1316[13:50:35] <Lizzy> Spcae
Angineers
L1317[13:50:36] <Michiyo> Oh shit.. I'm
gonna need a new water cooler I bet
L1318[13:50:39] <Lizzy> *Spoace
engioneers
L1319[13:50:40] <Michiyo> Space
Engineers.
L1320[13:50:40] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1321[13:50:41] <Michiyo> :P
L1322[13:50:44] <Lizzy> that
L1323[13:51:18] <XDjackieXD> Xilandro:
that'd mean I had to work on the 1.7.10 version again D: (It's
horrible compared to the >=1.8 version :>)
L1324[13:51:36] <Xilandro> Maybe but it's
the version that a lot of people still use because modpacks and
such
L1325[13:51:56] <Michiyo> Lizzy, they
said they had to delay until tomorrow
L1326[13:52:07] <Lizzy> rude
L1327[13:52:13] <Michiyo> Update 01.176
DEV - Delayed
L1328[13:52:13] <Michiyo> Hello,
Engineers! We are sorry to bring you this news, but there won't be
an update today due to technical difficulties. It does not happen
often (well, it happened only one time so far during the past
years)
L1329[13:52:13] <Michiyo> We are planning
to release the update tomorrow.
L1330[13:52:13] <Michiyo> Thanks a lot
for your understanding and patience!
L1331[13:52:17] <Michiyo> wow..
linebreaks
L1332[13:52:19] <XDjackieXD> which is
interesting because almost all mods are on >=1.9 already and
most of them are much more stable there
L1333[13:52:19] <Michiyo> thanks.
L1334[13:52:37] <Xilandro> Maybe but only
recently was the TE culling fixed
L1335[13:52:43] <Xilandro> (Thanks,
Sangar!)
L1336[13:52:54] <Xilandro> 1.7.10 still
has a lot of stability
L1337[13:52:59] *
Kilobyte grabs popcorn
L1338[13:53:24] *
Ashindigo_ gets some skittles
L1339[13:53:39] *
Lizzy throws confetti and glitter everywhere
L1340[13:53:58] * SinaMegapolis
L1341[13:54:02] <SinaMegapolis>
test
L1342[13:54:07] <XDjackieXD> My mod has
some horrible bugs in the last version I released for 1.7.10 :>
(well mostly corner cases but still very annoyign bugs once you
find them. nothing game breaking though)
L1343[13:54:17] <XDjackieXD>
SinaMegapolis: pong ^^
L1344[13:54:38] *
XDjackieXD should finally rewrite OpenRadio from
scratch
L1345[13:54:45] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
the one where you told someone you couldn't reproduce and when you
finally reproduced it forgot who it was?
L1346[13:54:49] *
SinaMegapolis just watches and worries
L1347[13:54:53] <Michiyo> shit... my H80i
won't work on AM4 boards..
L1348[13:55:08] <Ashindigo_> I mod on
1.10.2+ but still mostly play 1.7.10
L1349[13:55:27] <Michiyo> and the bigger
coolers won't fit my case..
L1350[13:55:39] <Kilobyte> at this stage
i have to admit that i don't play any mc anymore for most
part
L1351[13:55:54] *
Ashindigo_ drops a vat of nitrogen onto michis case
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())
L1353[13:56:14] <payonel> oc has caused
me to stop playing minecraft
L1354[13:56:16] <Michiyo> I can't
remember the last time I played MC..
L1355[13:56:17] <payonel> now all i do is
play oc
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L1357[13:56:31] <XDjackieXD> wow...
L1358[13:56:32]
Michiyo sets mode: +v on XDjackieXD
L1359[13:56:32] <Lizzy> !flags XDjackieXD
+vv
L1360[13:56:32] -zsh-
Lizzy set flags
+v on
XDjackieXD.
L1361[13:56:35] <Lizzy> !flags XDjackieXD
+vV
L1362[13:56:35] -zsh-
Lizzy set flags
+V on
XDjackieXD.
L1363[13:56:44] <XDjackieXD> ctrl+w is a
bad idea in pidgin...
L1364[13:56:48] <Lizzy> lol
L1365[13:56:48] <Michiyo> ya'll got
anymore of those flags? :p
L1366[13:56:53] *
XDjackieXD just wnated to delete a word :>
L1367[13:56:55] <Lizzy> !flags
L1368[13:57:00] <Kilobyte> i see
XDjackieXD is starting to act like a pro
L1369[13:57:23] <Lizzy> !flags Michiyo
+S
L1370[13:57:23] -zsh-
Lizzy set flags
+S on
Michiyo.
L1371[13:57:26] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD:
don't tell anyone, but... there are other irc clients...
L1372[13:57:30] <Lizzy> !help flags
L1373[13:57:44] *
Ashindigo_ hides his irc client
L1374[13:57:49] <Lizzy> ah
L1375[13:57:51] <Lizzy> !flags Michiyo
+f
L1376[13:57:51] -zsh-
Lizzy set flags
+f on
Michiyo.
L1377[13:57:55] <Lizzy> there
L1378[13:57:59] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte:
others that support xmpp too and are not aids to use? (pidgin is
aids but I haven't found anything better for both xmpp and
irc...)
L1379[13:58:10] <Michiyo> :O
L1380[13:58:22] <XDjackieXD> also I
closed soem other tab and I don't remember which one... :<
L1381[13:58:28] *
SinaMegapolis hides his irc client too
L1382[13:58:45] <Michiyo> XDjackieXD,
it's the one where you were about to send me your credit card
info...
L1383[13:58:50] <Michiyo> go ahead and
reopen that..
L1384[13:58:50] <Michiyo> :p
L1385[13:59:01] <Kilobyte> XDjackieXD: my
personal suggestion is still to use different clients for
both
L1386[14:00:00] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte:
It#s annoying to have 2 things take up screen space when one could
do both with tabs
L1387[14:00:13] <Kilobyte> or an irc
client + bitlebee
L1388[14:00:45] <XDjackieXD> bitlebee is
really annoying. I tried it and it just doesn't work the way I want
it too
L1389[14:00:49] <XDjackieXD> also:
OTR
L1390[14:01:00] <Kilobyte> is supported
by bitlebee
L1391[14:01:17] <Kilobyte> or failing
that, by weechat
L1392[14:01:26] <Kilobyte> and most other
clients
L1393[14:01:45] <XDjackieXD> I wont do
otr on my server... that's not why I use end2end crypto...
L1394[14:02:02] <XDjackieXD> and
weechat's otr implementation is crap
L1395[14:02:08] <Kilobyte> uhhhh... just
run bitlebee on your local machine
L1396[14:02:23] <XDjackieXD> ...
L1397[14:02:33] <Kilobyte> you don't want
to appear online in xmpp 24/7 anyways
L1398[14:02:36] <XDjackieXD> then I would
have two bouncers in series
L1399[14:02:46] <XDjackieXD> (for irc
that is)
L1400[14:02:48] <Kilobyte> no
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L1403[14:03:06] <Kilobyte> xmpp stuff
does not touch your current bouncer and vise versa
L1404[14:03:26] <XDjackieXD> Kilobyte: or
someone could just write a non-aids UI for libpurple?
L1405[14:03:40] <vifino> finch!
L1406[14:04:17] <XDjackieXD> :>
L1407[14:04:49] *
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L1408[14:05:02] *
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L1409[14:06:32] <SinaMegapolis> ashindigo
hows the progress of your skyblock?
L1410[14:07:43] <Ashindigo_> I changed
pack to ATM expert
L1411[14:08:10] <SinaMegapolis>
and?
L1412[14:08:43] <Ashindigo_> Have to get
to the end before I can get steel
L1413[14:13:03]
<TYKUHN2> Internet is being swapped
out
L1414[14:13:17]
<TYKUHN2> Currently getting half what we
asked
L1415[14:13:36] <CompanionCube> :(
L1416[14:13:45]
<TYKUHN2> Current: 50/10 Asked: 100/20
Previous: 20/5
L1417[14:15:41]
<TYKUHN2> I won't complain... Yet
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L1420[14:36:19] <Michiyo> CREATE TABLE IF
NOT EXISTS TimedBans(...)
L1421[14:36:23] <Michiyo> yay new module
for MichiBot
L1422[14:36:42] <Forecaster> I wonder
what it does
L1423[14:36:55] <Michiyo> It times how
long it takes me to ban you. :P
L1424[14:37:19] <Forecaster> neat
L1425[14:37:30] <Michiyo> I wonder if I
can move these into the modules themselfs instead of a huge init
function in the main class
L1426[14:38:30] <Michiyo> yeah.. I think
I can
L1427[14:39:13] <Michiyo> Oh wow, that
made eclipse VERY angry at me
L1428[14:39:13] <Michiyo> lool
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L1430[14:39:17] <Michiyo> s/oo/o/
L1431[14:39:17] <MichiBot>
<Michiyo> lol
L1432[14:39:19] <Forecaster> ohno
L1433[14:40:25] *
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._.
L1434[14:40:47] <Forecaster> my tech
based modpack has oc :P
L1435[14:40:48] <Ashindigo_> perfect
timing phone -.-
L1436[14:40:53] <Forecaster> other than
that I have no idea
L1437[14:41:08] <Ashindigo_> ATM has
oc
L1438[14:41:15] <Ashindigo_> though it is
probably outdated
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L1440[14:45:57] <SinaMegapolis> i was
talking to my friends friend about oc and about that oc uses
lua
L1441[14:46:09] <Forecaster> this is
true
L1442[14:46:13] <Forecaster> I admit
it
L1443[14:46:38] <Vexatos> Wait,
what?
L1444[14:46:38] <Vexatos> D:
L1445[14:46:39] <SinaMegapolis> he said:
there are better programming language then lua. why use lua for
oc?
L1446[14:47:00] <Forecaster> yeah, that's
not subjective or anything :P
L1447[14:47:01] <Vexatos> You can write
addons adding better languages :P
L1448[14:47:03] <Ashindigo_> its a simple
scripting lang
L1449[14:47:11] <Vexatos> But you'll have
a lot of trouble finding a smaller language
L1450[14:47:15] <SinaMegapolis> i cant
answer that question so im here to know the answer
L1451[14:47:16] <Forecaster> it's simple
and relatively easy to sandbox
L1452[14:47:20] <Vexatos> or one that's
more easy to learn
L1453[14:47:38] <Vexatos> Lua is just
about the most intuitive language I know
L1454[14:47:48] <Ashindigo_> vex's second
point is a good one
L1455[14:47:49] <Vexatos> to one without
any prior programming experience
L1456[14:48:10] <Ashindigo_> not many
people are going to want to learn java or c++ just to display some
colorful text on a screen
L1457[14:48:29] <SinaMegapolis> good
point ashindigo
L1458[14:49:11] <SinaMegapolis> (my
friends friends prevouis school had computers with windows 10
os.)
L1459[14:49:57] <Forecaster> I'd be
really impressed if you got win10 to run inside of minecraft
L1460[14:49:59] <SinaMegapolis> he said:
we were programming python, java, lua, c++, c# last year ._.
L1461[14:50:02] <Forecaster> in any
mod
L1462[14:50:32] <SinaMegapolis>
forecaster: that needs a huge amount of time....
L1463[14:50:45] <SinaMegapolis> i thnk it
takes 3 years at least
L1464[14:50:50] <Forecaster> and all of
it would be wasted :D
L1465[14:50:51] <SinaMegapolis>
think*
L1466[14:50:51] <payonel> i took an
entire semester studying java when i got my cs degree, and i dont
know crap about java
L1467[14:50:56] <Forecaster> because it'd
be completely useless
L1468[14:51:22] <payonel> so someone who
lists a bunch of languages from one class and thinks they know them
... or has a strong opinion comparing them all ...
L1469[14:51:24] <payonel> anyways
L1470[14:51:27] <Forecaster> I know
enough to make MichiBot do stupid things
L1471[14:51:28] <Forecaster> like
L1472[14:51:34] <Forecaster> %stab
L1473[14:51:34] *
MichiBot flails at nothingness with words
L1474[14:51:41] <Forecaster> I'm
amazing
L1475[14:51:51] <SinaMegapolis> :D
L1476[14:51:58] <Ashindigo_> java is the
first lang im actualy improving in and understand
L1477[14:52:30] <payonel> i shouldn't say
i dont know crap about java, i actually know a lot of the crap
about java
L1478[14:52:31] <payonel> :P
L1479[14:52:51] <Vexatos> I learned Java
95% through reading source code
L1480[14:52:53] <SinaMegapolis> yeah (i
know some of java becuz i know how to prgram android e-book in
android studio)
L1481[14:52:55] <Forecaster> %stab
programming in general
L1482[14:52:55] *
MichiBot slaps programming in general with Rage doing [13]
damage
L1483[14:52:55] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1484[14:53:07] <Vexatos> As in, i just
started making pull requests to mods
L1485[14:53:09] <payonel> anyways, yay --
language wars!
L1486[14:53:11] <Vexatos> And now I know
the language
L1487[14:53:13] <Vexatos> it just
happened
L1488[14:53:15] <Vexatos> Same with Scala
:P
L1489[14:53:18] <Ashindigo_> i taught my
self java
L1490[14:53:23] <Vexatos> I just started
reading OC code
L1491[14:53:25] <Vexatos> and then I
wrote Selene
L1492[14:53:30] <Vexatos> and that's how
I learned Scala :X
L1493[14:53:34] <SinaMegapolis>
ashindigo: me too
L1494[14:53:42] <Ashindigo_> i also want
to the learn scala so i can understand oc's git
L1495[14:53:47] <Vexatos> C++ is the
second most ugly language out there
L1496[14:53:49] <Vexatos> right after
perl
L1497[14:53:53] *
Vexatos glares at payonel
L1498[14:53:53] <SinaMegapolis> tought i
should say "AIDE" helped me start
L1499[14:54:18] <payonel> SinaMegapolis:
anyways, lua is actually a lot of fun. but more so, 1. naturally
sandboxes, super great for embedded environments which oc provides,
makes perfect sense, and 2. lua is very very common for in-game
scripting
L1500[14:54:21] <Vexatos> and python is
not really good for a language in OC because keeping track of
whitespaces without an IDE designed to do that is pretty
stupid
L1501[14:54:48] <Vexatos> Like,
seriously. Coding python on a small screen without auto
indentation
L1502[14:54:50] <Vexatos> aaaaargh
L1503[14:54:52] <payonel> and i love
C++!
L1504[14:54:58] <Vexatos> C++ is a good
language
L1505[14:55:00] <Vexatos> but so damn
ugly
L1506[14:55:02] <Ashindigo_> i would like
a syntax highlighting ide in OC
L1507[14:55:03] *
payonel throws unicorn dung at Vexatos
L1508[14:55:09] <Forecaster> Factorio is
a game written in Lua
L1509[14:55:11] <Forecaster> :>
L1510[14:55:13] <Vexatos> Ashindigo_,
write one
L1511[14:55:15] <SinaMegapolis>
ashindigo: i wonder why there are scala libs and apis instead f
java libs in oc source
L1512[14:55:22] <Vexatos> Forecaster,
mods are
L1513[14:55:37] <Vexatos> SinaMegapolis,
because OC is written in scala and not java?
L1514[14:55:37] <Ashindigo_> but i dont
have an oc computer yet
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L1516[14:56:08] <Forecaster> I thought
the whole thing was Lua, not just the mods
L1517[14:56:11] <SinaMegapolis> um what?
didnt expected that....
L1518[14:56:24] <Vexatos> Forecaster, no
idea
L1519[14:56:28] <Vexatos> I just know the
mods are :P
L1520[14:56:39] <Ashindigo_> that was in
reply to vex
L1521[14:56:41] <payonel> Vexatos: i
agree c++ is not pretty most of the time, c# i really loved to read
and write when i was a c# dev. but c++ is really fun to write
L1522[14:56:42] <SinaMegapolis> so
anyways
L1523[14:56:49] <Ashindigo_> and OC is
coded in scala
L1524[14:57:04] <Vexatos> payonel, C# is
basically Java without a VM
L1525[14:57:12]
<20kdc>
payonel: I still can't wrap my head around std::string's memory
management magic
L1526[14:57:14] <Ashindigo_> (ffs this
internet sucks for irc)
L1527[14:57:22] <payonel> holy crap
L1528[14:57:24] <Vexatos> C++ is a more
ugly version of C
L1529[14:57:26] <payonel> java is such
crap
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L1531[14:57:31] <Vexatos> (and more
powerful, sure)
L1532[14:57:36] <Forecaster> you gotta
have really terrible internet if it can't handle irc
L1533[14:57:48] <Vexatos> payonel, Java
is actually really damn good
L1534[14:57:50] <CompanionCube>
Forecaster: eh, it could just be done
L1535[14:57:52] <Vexatos> For what it is
supposed to do
L1536[14:58:01] <payonel> c# ... yields!
real generics! lambdas, reflection api is superb! not full of crap
standard libs
L1537[14:58:01] <SinaMegapolis> i wonder
if openos had script highlighting (bad spelling i know ._.) in its
text editor for lua files
L1538[14:58:01]
<20kdc>
(read: business logic)
L1539[14:58:04] <Vexatos> There's a
reason it's the most used language in the enterprise
environment
L1540[14:58:22] <Vexatos> because
multiplatform and one of four decent GCs > almost every other
argument
L1541[14:58:23] <payonel> Vexatos: i'm
not trying to be hyperbolic, but over the years all that i learn
about java makes me dislike it
L1542[14:58:35] <Ashindigo_> i also have
to go through my bouncers web client
L1543[14:58:44] <Ashindigo_> which
probably isnt helping
L1544[14:58:48]
<20kdc>
On the one hand, I dislike Java's built-in-sound API
L1545[14:58:55]
<20kdc>
on the other hand C# doesn't even have one AFAIK
L1546[14:58:55] <payonel> SinaMegapolis:
LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE
L1547[14:59:07] <CompanionCube> java
is...OK
L1548[14:59:08] <payonel> SinaMegapolis:
vex and i were almost on speaking terms, you jerk
L1549[14:59:12] <Vexatos> payonel, people
often tell me Java is a bad language and I don't know why
L1550[14:59:18] <CompanionCube> verbose
and imho can be inelegant
L1551[14:59:30] <Vexatos> I can tell you
all the bad things about Scala :P
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L1553[14:59:33] <Vexatos> But Java? not
really
L1554[14:59:33] <CompanionCube> just
avoid the hilarious shitty class libraries
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L1556[14:59:48] <SinaMegapolis> ok ok
everyone calm down
L1557[15:00:06] <Vexatos> C# and Java are
very similar, one has the advantage of multiplatform while the
other is a bit more efficient (but not much, actually)
L1558[15:00:06] <Forecaster> No D:
L1559[15:00:07] <Ashindigo_> nEveR!
L1560[15:00:10] <Forecaster> %stab
calm
L1561[15:00:11] *
MichiBot slaps calm with Lewdness doing [13] damage
L1562[15:00:11] *
EnderBot2 laughs
L1563[15:00:12] <Vexatos> And Java does
have lambda functions, payonel
L1564[15:00:16] <Forecaster> oh, uh
L1565[15:00:21] <SinaMegapolis> i dont
want this programming languages war to continue :l
L1566[15:00:21] <Forecaster> not what I
intended
L1567[15:00:28] <CompanionCube> Vexatos:
C# and Java are basically siblings :D
L1568[15:00:38] <Vexatos> Well, no
L1569[15:00:54] <Vexatos> C# is the
little brother of C who happened to go to the same school as
Java
L1570[15:00:55] <Ashindigo_> %stab peace
and love
L1571[15:00:56] *
MichiBot stabs peace and love with snuggles doing [12]
damage
L1572[15:01:01] <Forecaster> haha
L1573[15:01:05] <Forecaster> that's
great
L1574[15:01:06] <CompanionCube> %stab
MichiBot
L1575[15:01:06] *
MichiBot uses Banhammer to vaporize CompanionCube
L1576[15:01:11] <Michiyo> Forecaster, you
don't have any pending changes to stuff like inventory do you?
(anything that interacts with the DB stuff)
L1577[15:01:11] <CompanionCube> :(
L1578[15:01:22] <Forecaster> Michiyo:
nope
L1579[15:01:31] <Forecaster> no new
commits since the last pullreq
L1580[15:01:35] <Vexatos> %inventory add
the void in your heart
L1581[15:01:35] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Added
'the void in your heart' to inventory.
L1582[15:01:36] <Forecaster> or any
changes at all
L1583[15:01:38] <Michiyo> kk, cause I'm
working on moving DB stuff into plugins
L1584[15:01:43] <Michiyo>
s/plugins/hooks/
L1585[15:01:43] <MichiBot>
<Michiyo> kk, cause I'm working on moving DB stuff into
hooks
L1586[15:01:49] <SinaMegapolis> i afraid
from getting banned again becuz of starting a programming languages
war... so everybody PLEASE CALM DOWN!
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L1588[15:01:54]
<20kdc>
The Java standard library is basically a ton of more or less
guaranteed-to-work functions that cover tons, including
hardware-accelerated 2D rendering (and I don't mean JavaFX.) It's
also awful to use, but if your primary goals include not having to
deal with license stuff for using external libraries, I'd take Java
over C# ever.
L1589[15:02:02] <Michiyo> so that they
manage their own DB stuff instead of that giant db init
cluserfuck
L1590[15:02:07] <Forecaster> neat
L1591[15:02:17] <Inari> Guys calm
down
L1592[15:02:19] <Ashindigo_> %stab the
remaining 149 anthracite coal ash needs
L1593[15:02:20] <Inari> Lets just use
binary logic to program
L1594[15:02:20] <SinaMegapolis> plz
L1595[15:02:22] <Forecaster> putting them
in the initCommand method?
L1596[15:02:22] *
MichiBot slaps the remaining 149 anthracite coal ash needs with
snuggles doing [8] damage
L1597[15:02:22] *
EnderBot2 high-fives MichiBot
L1598[15:02:24] <Vexatos> 20kdc: If you
are in a commercial environment, that is a big deal :P
L1599[15:02:38] <SinaMegapolis> plz just
calm down!
L1600[15:02:41]
<20kdc>
Vexatos: Actually I'm not in a commercial environment, I'm just fed
up with having to read license files.
L1601[15:02:50] <Vexatos> or that
L1602[15:02:53] <CompanionCube> Oracle's
licensing is...not good.
L1603[15:03:03]
<20kdc>
OpenJDK, anyone?
L1604[15:03:04] <SinaMegapolis> i got
scared... plz calm down ._.
L1605[15:03:09] <CompanionCube> 20kdc:
ikr
L1606[15:04:04] <SinaMegapolis> oh thank
you
L1607[15:04:12] <Vexatos> One of
Germany's biggest substance databases is stored as an Oracle
Database :3
L1608[15:04:20] <Vexatos> Praise oracle
\:D/
L1609[15:04:22] *
Vexatos runs
L1610[15:04:35] <Michiyo> %inventory add
Hot bot on bot action
L1611[15:04:35] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Added
'Hot bot on bot action' to inventory.
L1612[15:04:37] <Michiyo> :P
L1613[15:04:46] *
Michiyo pokes Forecaster
L1614[15:05:08] <Ashindigo_> hey your not
inari!
L1615[15:05:19] <Inari> ?
L1616[15:05:26]
<20kdc>
Ashindigo_: Michiyo's a student of Inari, if I recall.
L1617[15:05:30] <Forecaster> :P
L1618[15:05:41] <Inari> ?.?
L1619[15:05:52] <Forecaster> everyone can
be an acolyte of lewd if they want to
L1620[15:06:32] <SinaMegapolis> i wonder
if openos text editor had hightlights for lua te
L1621[15:06:35] <SinaMegapolis> oh
L1622[15:06:45] <SinaMegapolis> why did i
hit enter :l
L1623[15:07:15] <Vexatos> %inventory add
chastity
L1624[15:07:16] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Added
'chastity' to inventory.
L1625[15:07:21] <Vexatos> spoilt it
forever, mwahahahaa
L1626[15:07:22] *
Vexatos runs
L1627[15:07:42] <Inari> %inv add
virginity
L1628[15:07:42] <MichiBot> Inari: Added
'virginity' to inventory.
L1629[15:08:04] <SinaMegapolis> i wonder
if openos text editor had hightlights for lua files...... (cant
remember the name of that thing ._.)
L1630[15:08:20] <Ashindigo_> %inventory
remove virginity
L1631[15:08:21] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_:
Removed item from inventory
L1632[15:08:25] <Inari> :<
L1633[15:08:34] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar
reminder to repro in that test world
L1634[15:08:34] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1635[15:08:52] <Ashindigo_> it already
lost it
L1636[15:09:15] <Vexatos> MichiBot has
lost it D:
L1637[15:09:37] <Vexatos> that is triply
ambiguous
L1638[15:10:14] <Inari> You could have at
least given michibot's virginity to someone
L1639[15:11:12]
<20kdc>
Inari: they did...
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<20kdc>
...themselves. (Ashindigo_ x MichiBot, this is happening.)
L1642[15:16:19] <Forecaster> does canada
have milk in bags
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L1646[15:34:15] <Inari> Forecaster: How
lewd
L1647[15:35:38] <Vexatos> In Germany,
milk is sold in aluminium-coated cardboard :P
L1648[15:36:39] <Izaya> here we have both
fresh milk in plastic bottles and UHT milk in cartons
L1649[15:36:53] <Izaya> most people seem
to prefer the fresh stuff but I can't stand it
L1650[15:36:56] <Izaya> too much
taste
L1651[15:37:26] <Vexatos> fresh milk is
not something you find at supermarkets, you can get it at the local
market though
L1652[15:38:24] <Vexatos> You buy your
milk in packs of 12×1L and UHT
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L1654[15:42:51] <Izaya> yeah uh
L1655[15:43:00] <Izaya> here fresh milk
is everywhere
L1656[15:43:06] <Izaya> because it's
Australia
L1657[15:44:06]
<MGR>
Alright, I'm back, and it's time to do more GERTi testing
L1658[15:44:32] <Inari> TIL Izaya lives
in Australia
L1659[15:44:54] <Inari> Honestly, livin
gin australia sounds like a pain
L1660[15:45:06] <Inari> Its hot,
everything is dangerous, everythings expensive, and your internet
sucks
L1661[15:45:17]
<MGR>
It's ok if you like rabbits though
L1662[15:45:51] <Michiyo> yay
L1663[15:45:59] <Michiyo> that was fairly
straight forward..
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<MGR>
Don't just stand
L1666[15:47:55]
<MGR> GO
BEZERKKKKK
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L1668[15:49:18]
<MGR>
lol
L1669[15:49:29]
<MGR> my
basement is cold, so I'm running Prime95 and Furmark
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<MGR> oh
dang it
L1672[15:51:44]
<MGR> I
forgot to add a way for far-off clients to register themselves with
a gateway
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L1675[15:55:32] <Michiyo> Ok.. so
Xilandro @Kodos and.. anyone else who wants to weigh in on this
:P
L1676[15:55:42] <Michiyo> how does
%timedban 24h MGR Because I want feedback look for the format of
the timed ban command?
L1677[15:55:51]
<MGR>
please no
L1678[15:56:09]
<MGR> I
could be announcing very good news soon ?
L1679[15:56:17] <Ashindigo_> I would go
name first then time
L1680[15:56:23] <Xilandro> ^
L1681[15:56:30] <Michiyo> ok
L1682[15:56:34] <Xilandro> Also I am
kodos, in case you forgot
L1683[15:56:42] <Xilandro> No need to
ping me twice
L1684[15:56:48]
<MGR>
Huh
L1685[15:56:52]
<MGR>
Did not know that
L1686[15:56:54] <Michiyo> I know, just
wasn't sure if you'd notice on discord first or here :P
L1687[15:56:57] *
Ashindigo_ doesnt question the name change
L1688[15:57:18] <Michiyo> does @MGR still
work?
L1689[15:57:23]
<MGR>
yes
L1690[15:57:23] <Michiyo> It do!
L1691[15:57:46] <Michiyo> Hmm.. did I
make it work for status too?
L1692[15:57:51] <Michiyo> @status
@MGR
L1693[15:57:51] <Corded> Michiyo:
MajGenRelativity is currently ONLINE
L1694[15:57:52] <Michiyo> I did.
L1695[15:57:54] <Michiyo> yay
L1696[15:57:57] <Ashindigo_> yay
L1697[15:58:00]
<MGR>
whoo
L1698[15:59:01] <Michiyo> Ok, so
%timedban MGR 24h cause
L1699[15:59:17] <Michiyo> I'll alias it
to %tban too I guess
L1700[15:59:18] ***
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L1701[15:59:29] <Gavle> test
L1702[15:59:33] <Michiyo> fail
L1703[15:59:37] <Gavle> @status
@Gavle
L1704[15:59:37] <Corded> Gavle: Gavle is
currently OFFLINE
L1705[15:59:42] <Ashindigo_> %tesr
L1706[15:59:46] <Gavle> cool
L1707[15:59:46] <Ashindigo_> %test
L1708[15:59:55] <Michiyo> No, MichiBot
doesn't have a TESR.. :p
L1709[16:00:04] <Gavle> alright @MGR,
we're ready for your news
L1710[16:00:07] <Michiyo> Also %test is a
test of the auth system, so it failing is a good thing
L1711[16:00:44]
<MGR>
all signs are good so far
L1712[16:01:11]
<MGR>
and we hit a snag
L1713[16:02:38] <Ashindigo_> %stab
snag
L1714[16:02:38] *
MichiBot stabs snag with Hot bot on bot action doing [3]
damage
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<MGR>
...
L1719[16:11:45]
<MGR>
neighbor discovery is being super wacked
L1720[16:12:49]
<MGR>
sometimes it works great, other times it breaks down for 0
reason
L1721[16:13:24] <CompanionCube> enjoy
your heisenbu
L1722[16:13:29] <CompanionCube>
*heisenbug
L1723[16:14:18]
<MGR>
yep
L1724[16:15:12]
<MGR> my
working theory is that the Gateway program needs some time to set
up, despite the fact that it returns control to the shell almost
immediately
L1725[16:21:02] <Ashindigo_> %stab ash's
scanner
L1726[16:21:04] *
MichiBot stabs ash's scanner with A mouldy pear doing [4] damage,
the mouldy pear crumbles to dust.
L1727[16:21:55] <Inari> Oh neat
L1728[16:22:02] <Inari> Something finally
broke
L1729[16:22:03] <Inari> :p
L1730[16:22:35]
<MGR>
kewlio
L1731[16:22:55] <Corded> * MGR upends
table
L1732[16:23:03]
<MGR> I
don't understand what's going on with neighbor discovery
L1733[16:23:09] *
Ashindigo_ stabs the device again anyhow
L1734[16:23:22]
<MGR>
the gateway gets the message, but for some reason the client
doesn't see anything
L1735[16:23:29] <Inari> Ashindigo_: What
scanner anyway
L1736[16:24:42] <Ashindigo_> Block from
future pack
L1737[16:25:07] <Ashindigo_> Displayed a
mildly worrying message
L1738[16:28:02]
<MGR>
what the hell
L1739[16:28:04]
<MGR>
really though
L1740[16:28:07]
<MGR>
what even is this bug
L1741[16:30:07] <Ashindigo_> ?
L1742[16:30:14] <Ashindigo_> ?
L1743[16:30:15] <Corded> * MGR
shimmers
L1744[16:30:17] <Corded> * MGR
shakes
L1745[16:30:19] <Corded> * MGR
explodes
L1746[16:30:33]
<MGR>
Please stand by while I push to GitHub the most up-to-date versions
of my programs
L1747[16:32:12] <Inari> Ashindigo_: What
message
L1749[16:34:13]
<MGR>
That's the output
L1750[16:34:41]
<MGR>
and then this is the code that Gavle pushed
L1752[16:34:48]
<MGR>
it's what I'm using right now
L1753[16:35:23]
<MGR>
sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't
L1754[16:36:05] <Inari> You need to like,
get better at describing your issues
L1755[16:36:34] <Inari> I mean
L1756[16:36:36]
<MGR>
Inari, neighbor discovery will not work
L1757[16:36:39] <Inari> You're not as bad
as Cruor, but still
L1758[16:36:50]
<MGR> In
a correct solution, the client will display "not nil" and
the address of the gateway
L1759[16:37:01]
<MGR>
the gateway will also display the address of the client
L1760[16:37:11] *
Ashindigo_ waits for his slow internet
L1761[16:37:48]
<MGR>
sometimes the gateway displays the address of the client, but the
client does nothing (bad), sometimes the gateway displays the
address of the client and the client displays the address of the
gateway (good), and sometimes nobody displays anything and dmesg
fails to show an incoming modem message even to the gateway
L1762[16:38:07]
<MGR>
reboot the computers enough times, and it will work
L1763[16:38:08] <Inari> Also
"nillerino" ¬_¬
L1764[16:38:28]
<MGR> I
am using: OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.6.1.11-universal
L1765[16:38:41] <Inari> There comes a
point where you have to stop and question yourself
L1766[16:38:44] <Inari> Am I coding
software
L1767[16:38:47] <Inari> Or am I
memeing
L1768[16:39:14]
<MGR> A.
nillerino is a meme?
L1769[16:39:25]
<MGR> B.
It's a bunch of debug stuff I leave in until I get a release
out
L1770[16:39:38] <Inari> A. well its about
the same is that silly pasteroni, etc stuff :P
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<MGR>
ah, I was not aware of that
L1773[16:40:02] <Inari> Why not leave it
in, but disable it for release, and do it proper at that
L1774[16:40:19]
<MGR>
not a bad idea
L1775[16:40:28]
<MGR>
but that's not the point of my question
L1776[16:40:29] <Ashindigo_> Almost
there! (I think)
L1777[16:40:35]
<MGR>
the point is that neighbor discovery randomly breaks
L1778[16:40:51] <Ashindigo_>
imgur.com/a/MaOsh
L1779[16:41:36]
<MGR>
it's blank
L1780[16:42:14] <Ashindigo_> -.- imgur
pls
L1781[16:50:58] <Ashindigo_> OK take
2
L1782[16:51:11] <Ashindigo_>
imgur.com/a/cy9Xy
L1783[16:52:18]
<MGR>
Inari, any ideas why it broke?
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<MGR>
afk
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L1787[17:04:15]
<MGR>
argh
L1788[17:04:24]
<MGR>
work interferes again, so I'll have to do this tomorrow
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L1790[17:16:02] <Ashindigo_> %stab stupid
issues
L1791[17:16:04] *
MichiBot slaps stupid issues with 404 weapon not found doing [8]
damage
L1792[17:16:04] *
EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
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L1795[17:28:50] <Michiyo> timed ban works
\o/
L1797[17:30:10] *
CompanionCube just leaves this here
L1799[17:30:13] <MichiBot> Thu Feb 23
17:00:46 CST 2017 @taviso: Cloudflare have been leaking customer
HTTPS sessions for months. Uber, 1Password, FitBit, OKCupid, etc.
https://t.co/wjwE4M3Pbk
L1800[17:30:34] <Ashindigo_> Oh that's
neat
L1801[17:31:34] <CompanionCube> 'neat'
:D
L1802[17:37:34] <g> they already fixed
it
L1803[17:37:40] <g> read the ticket
L1804[17:38:06] <CompanionCube> g: I
did
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L1818[19:00:21] <Mimiru> %tban Michitest
10s Meh
L1819[19:00:23] <MichiBot> !kickban
Michitest Reason: Meh For: 10s
L1820[19:00:30] <Mimiru> nice
L1821[19:00:41] <MichiBot> Timed ban of
Michitest Expired. Placed by: Mimiru
L1822[19:00:42] <MichiBot> !unban
Michitest
L1823[19:00:45] <Mimiru> now I just need
the perms for that :P
L1824[19:11:20]
<TYKUHN2> Explain something please?
L1825[19:11:29]
<TYKUHN2> How did i get admin login on a
system with 0 users registered?
L1826[19:12:52]
<MGR>
@TYKUHN2 is this an OC computer?
L1827[19:13:00]
<TYKUHN2> No it's my router
L1828[19:13:04]
<TYKUHN2> Sorry it's my Pi
L1829[19:13:14]
<MGR>
idk
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<TYKUHN2> I find it strange the names of
these protocols
L1835[19:31:18]
<TYKUHN2> "STUN" and
"TURN"
L1836[19:43:30] <CompanionCube> heh
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L1839[20:41:13] <Xilandro> Well that was
a hilariously fun day
L1840[20:41:28]
<TYKUHN2> "STUN"
L1841[20:41:35]
<TYKUHN2> "TURN"
L1842[20:45:38]
<TYKUHN2> "This LMG has far greater
firepower than the M16" Who'da'thunk'it?
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L1844[21:10:10]
<TYKUHN2> Who do they decide to maim with a
landmine in the reenactment? The SAS's explosives expert.
L1845[21:26:34]
<TYKUHN2> This movie is pretty
awesome
L1846[21:26:41]
<TYKUHN2> Too bad I only found a 240p
version
L1847[21:35:41]
<TYKUHN2> Obstructed airway and collapsed
lung, obstructed airway due to rapid burn swelling, major spinal
problems, and a broken leg. One of these things just doesn't belong
here.
L1848[21:35:52]
<TYKUHN2> Oh yeah and spinal dude has
obstructed airways
L1849[21:37:42]
<TYKUHN2> Dude uploaded every episode! He
also killed my ears and OCD but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1850[21:40:55]
<TYKUHN2> "Speed" *Rapple*
"Aggression" *Explosion of door* "Surprise"
*Dudes with a shit ton of guns break into his recording
session
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L1852[21:57:06]
<TYKUHN2> "Just because a door is
there, doesn't mean it has to be used" Going Rainbow Six Siege
are we now?
L1853[21:57:54]
<TYKUHN2> They blatantly have Breaching
charges as well
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L1855[22:20:07]
<TYKUHN2> Wow
L1856[22:20:23]
<TYKUHN2> Dude actidentally identified the
dude so they dubbed over it with really loud voice overs
L1857[22:20:31]
<TYKUHN2> Infact I think the voice over
said "Cheese"
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<TYKUHN2> Large risk of huge casualty? Use
paralysing gases that have a 100% chance of killing someone!
L1860[22:33:56] <Saphire> Ahah
L1862[22:34:36] <Saphire> "... The
entry point to the parsing function is ngx_http_email_parse_email
(the name is historical, it does much more than email
parsing)."
L1863[22:41:28]
<TYKUHN2> "I opened, saw a man in
black, got down, and the window was blown in" Quite lucky that
man.
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