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L11[00:49:44] <Izaya> https://my.mixtape.moe/ebkicw.jpg
L12[00:59:51] <payonel> gamax92: o/
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L23[03:03:23] * Lizzy rolls on top of her vifino and snuggles
L24[03:14:54] <Lizzy> dammit should have closed my mosh terminal sessions down last night ¬_¬
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L26[04:03:52] * vifino snuggles Lizzy
L27[04:04:03] * Lizzy snuggles vifino moar
L28[04:08:33] * gamax92 sleeps
L29[04:10:43] <vifino> Good night, gamax92.
L30[04:11:59] <gamax92> high speed but high latency :(
L31[04:14:11] <Lizzy> grr
L32[04:26:58] <Forecaster> I wish Oxygen not included had tanks
L33[04:27:06] <Forecaster> storing fluids is a pain
L34[04:31:04] <Naeso> ah, sorry for yesterday, i was a little tierd. Anyway. With a friend, we test this mod, and we are impressed by it. I'm interrested by the network branch... but the only thing i was able to do is to broadcast messages. well. The main thing i want to make is to send and receive files (.txt for exemple) from a computer to another computer, using the network. But i didnt figure it out how to make it. Is that possible ? if yes, how ? Thanks in
L35[04:31:04] <Naeso> advance for thje help. Oh, and another thing : we've seen another os, Plan9K. I've seacherd a bit about it, i've find the github of it, but impossible to find documentation of how it works and what i can do with this os... It seems this os have some interresting network tools, so i want to learn how it works ; so thanks in advance again if someone can help me to find something in that topic. Sorry for my english, im still learning it, i think i
L36[04:31:05] <Naeso> dont have problems to read it and understand, but for writing it... i have to work on it. End of my long message, thanks to all of you to read me !
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L42[06:38:59] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/5vfc80/i_was_browsing_discord_when_avast_went_crazy/de22uf4/ heh
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L47[06:56:21] <Ashindigo_> -_-
L48[06:56:40] <Ashindigo_> %slap Avast's heuristic engine
L49[06:57:09] <Ashindigo_> %stab Avast's heuristic engine
L50[06:57:09] * MichiBot slaps Avast's heuristic engine with words doing [6] damage
L51[06:57:09] * EnderBot2 high-fives MichiBot
L52[06:57:25] <Ashindigo_> Perfect
L53[06:57:50] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2092#issuecomment-281519498
L54[06:57:51] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L55[07:12:20] <Inari> Ashindigo_: Slap the dumb user :p Not the tool
L56[07:13:07] <Forecaster> %stab the dumb user
L57[07:13:10] * MichiBot hits the dumb user with seizing phone doing [11] damage
L58[07:13:20] <Inari> The heck is a seizing phone
L59[07:13:21] <Inari> %inv
L60[07:13:22] <MichiBot> Inari: Unknown sub-command '' (Try: add, remove, list)
L61[07:13:24] <Inari> %inv list
L62[07:13:24] <MichiBot> Inari: Lewdness, knife, "seed", grammar, enchanted cat claw of bleeding, snuggles, no tea, 404 weapon not found, A mouldy pear, food, MGR, sake kit kats, "Bukkit", Inari's collection of "stuff", cabbages, a shaft-powered doll, inventory, a headache inducer, tea milk, climax change, forge dev, shrugs, words, Forecaster, TACEATS2, MajGenRelativity, Banhammer, seizing phone
L63[07:13:31] * Forecaster shrugs
L64[07:13:46] <Lizzy> %inv remove climax change
L65[07:13:48] <Inari> omg omg
L66[07:13:50] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Removed item from inventory
L67[07:14:30] <Inari> Phunk final start streaming mass effect next week :p
L68[07:15:51] * Lizzy takes deep breaths for a phone call she needs to make later
L69[07:15:54] <Forecaster> %give Inari grammar
L70[07:15:54] * MichiBot gives Inari grammar from her inventory
L71[07:16:04] <Inari> *finally starts
L72[07:16:05] <Inari> :P
L73[07:16:31] <Inari> %give Forecaster tea milk
L74[07:16:31] * MichiBot gives Forecaster tea milk from her inventory
L75[07:16:33] <Inari> Try it, it tastes good
L76[07:18:58] <Forecaster> :P
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L80[07:34:29] <Lizzy> %p
L81[07:34:32] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Lizzy 2.24s
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L83[07:42:06] <Mimiru> %p
L84[07:42:11] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 4.38s
L85[07:42:16] * Mimiru pokes MichiBot
L86[07:42:24] <Mimiru> %t
L87[07:42:27] <Mimiru> err
L88[07:42:28] <Mimiru> %test
L89[07:42:28] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Success
L90[07:42:30] <Mimiru> %p
L91[07:42:32] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.37s
L92[07:42:37] <Mimiru> Hmm...
L93[07:43:10] <Mimiru> %flushhash
L94[07:43:11] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Hashmap size: 0
L95[07:43:12] <Mimiru> %p
L96[07:43:13] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.37s
L97[07:43:17] <Mimiru> idk..
L98[07:43:44] <Forecaster> maybe she goes to sleep after a while, and takes a bit to wake up when someone suddenly issues a command :P
L99[07:43:54] <Forecaster> but then she's awake for the next ones
L100[07:50:34] <Ashindigo_> %p
L101[07:50:38] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ashindigo_ 2.46s
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L103[07:51:17] <Mimiru> Ashindigo_, try again
L104[07:51:42] <Ashindigo_> %p
L105[07:51:43] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Ashindigo_ 0.38s
L106[07:51:47] <Ashindigo_> Cool
L107[07:51:57] <Mimiru> yeah.. I think it's the initial caching that is slow
L108[07:54:04] <Mimiru> whenever you issue a command the bot tries to grab your ns account, and for whatever reason it runs a whois 4 times to do so..
L109[07:54:10] <Mimiru> waiting on those replies is slow
L110[07:56:24] <Ashindigo_> The same command 4 times? O.o
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L113[08:13:24] <EnderBot2> !kick LanteaBot Your owner does not have permission to bring you here. (if you feel this is an error then please tell Lizzy or Sangar)
L114[08:13:25] *** LanteaBot was kicked by zsh ((EnderBot2 (EnderBot)) Your owner does not have permission to bring you here. (if you feel this is an error then please tell Lizzy or Sangar)))
L115[08:13:44] <Lizzy> dafuw?
L116[08:13:49] <Lizzy> that code still works?
L117[08:13:51] <Lizzy> wow
L118[08:14:06] <Lizzy> Mimiru, want me to add an exclusion for that?
L119[08:14:14] <Lizzy> providing i can remember the commands
L120[08:14:24] <Mimiru> Oh damn
L121[08:14:32] <Mimiru> I forgot I copied the prod DB to my test env lol
L122[08:14:35] <Lizzy> lol
L123[08:14:53] <Mimiru> I was wondering why it was joining all these channels...
L124[08:17:26] <Mimiru> there cleared out the join list lol
L125[08:17:57] <Saphire> Hello!
L126[08:18:06] <Ashindigo_> So what's cheaty computers and "are we end game yet!!!"?
L127[08:18:22] <Forecaster> ??
L128[08:18:44] <Mimiru> Oh, I see...
L129[08:19:03] <Mimiru> ugh
L130[08:19:06] <Ashindigo_> https://www.reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/5vh2do/comment/de2bnfg
L131[08:19:49] <Mimiru> Cheaty Computers gives you prebuilt computers basically
L132[08:19:56] <Mimiru> craft item, click, computer.
L133[08:20:30] <Mimiru> theres a 1.7, and 1.8 version, I have 1.7 on my jenkins
L134[08:21:27] <Mimiru> https://github.com/Vexatos/ARE-WE-END-GAME-YET
L135[08:22:07] <Mimiru> "Are you the type of modded Minecraft player that makes a beeline for the designated "end game" and then gives up on ever playing again once you get there? Do you wish there was a way to make the process take significantly longer? Do you love GregTech, but wish it weren't so short? Do you sit down on your chest full of Galgadorian Drills and wish there was a mod that didn't just hand things to you on a silver platter?"
L136[08:22:19] <Mimiru> the description for the mod that is an "addon" to
L137[08:23:28] <Ashindigo_> Dang it, its 1.7.10
L138[08:23:37] <Mimiru> https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/avaritia-1-10
L139[08:23:48] <Mimiru> but vex's addon isn't for 1.10
L140[08:25:24] <Inari> I'd rather just have a fun and extensive techtree than what this soundslike
L141[08:27:02] <Mimiru> Yeah... gonna try to debug this at work.. 3 whois on every message is a bit... bleh
L142[08:27:10] <Ashindigo_> I wish ATM expert used avarita
L143[08:27:41] <Mimiru> but it's only if the user doesn't exist in the cache, but cache time is 5 minutes..
L144[08:29:06] <Forecaster> how long does someone remain in the cache?
L145[08:29:17] <Mimiru> 5 min
L146[08:29:27] <Forecaster> oh
L147[08:30:36] <Mimiru> meh work..
L148[08:32:14] <Temia> mu .v.
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L150[08:35:43] <Inari> %give Temia random
L151[08:35:45] * MichiBot gives Temia forge dev from her inventory
L152[08:35:52] * Lizzy pets Temia and vifino
L153[08:36:20] <Ashindigo_> %inventory add a unique mod idea
L154[08:36:24] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: Added 'a unique mod idea' to inventory.
L155[08:36:28] * Temia leans into pets and tailflumps. has gotten maybe three hours of sleep. x.x
L156[08:36:40] <Inari> Looking forward to getting my internet/phone controlled... uh.. back massager
L157[08:36:57] <Inari> Why internet controlled? Uh.... well so of course my doctor can direct it properly
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L160[08:42:40] <Vexatos> Ashindigo_, in case you can't tell, mods with silly names are silly mods
L161[08:42:46] <Vexatos> I made at least three joke mods so far
L162[08:43:18] <Vexatos> Forecaster's Backpacks isn't one of them
L163[08:43:30] <Vexatos> It is a good mod and you should use it :3
L164[08:43:47] <Ashindigo_> So cheaty computer, are we end game yet and pink flamingo are the joke ones?
L165[08:43:54] <Vexatos> how
L166[08:43:54] <Vexatos> dare
L167[08:43:55] <Vexatos> you
L168[08:44:02] <Vexatos> Someone ban this person immediately
L169[08:44:10] * Ashindigo_ runs
L170[08:44:15] <Vexatos> Ashindigo_, http://git.io/viCxG
L171[08:44:21] <Vexatos> HOW DARE YOU
L172[08:44:23] <Forecaster> %inv add a flamingo
L173[08:44:24] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Added 'a flamingo' to inventory.
L174[08:44:34] <Inari> Is there a max inv size?
L175[08:44:39] <Vexatos> Ashindigo_, I didn't make that mod
L176[08:44:39] <Forecaster> no
L177[08:45:19] <Vexatos> My joke mods are Cheaty Computers, ARE WE END GAME YET?!? and Tinkers' Gregworks except that one is actually a good mod
L178[08:46:52] * Ashindigo_ wonders if the coast is clesr
L179[08:48:00] <Vexatos> never insult the flamingo, that is heresy
L180[08:50:17] <Temia> needs more penguins
L181[08:50:25] * Temia nods sagely
L182[08:50:39] <Michiyo> I'd totally use a penguin mod..
L183[08:50:46] <Michiyo> even if it did exactly nothing...
L184[08:51:12] * Temia nods.
L185[08:51:22] <Inari> pengin
L186[08:51:28] <Temia> A penguin mod might get me back into Minecraft.
L187[08:51:34] <Temia> pengin pengi~n
L188[08:51:40] <Vexatos> mariculture has penguins, twilight forest has penguins
L189[08:51:55] <Ashindigo_> TF has penguins?
L190[08:51:59] <Temia> But are they penguin mods?!
L191[08:52:45] <Inari> %inventory add Mons pengin
L192[08:52:45] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'Mons pengin' to inventory.
L193[08:53:29] <Vexatos> Ashindigo_, it does.
L194[08:54:16] <Temia> I'm pretty sure TF's penguins are just flavour, for example
L195[08:54:45] <Forecaster> neither of them do anything
L196[08:55:00] <Forecaster> well, I think you can tame the mariculture ones?
L197[08:55:03] <Forecaster> maybe...
L198[08:55:03] <Temia> ...and now I'm reminded about that one petting animals mod I wanted to do .-.
L199[08:55:14] <Temia> eeeee pet penguins
L200[08:58:10] <Michiyo> Ugh stupid sync button
L201[08:58:26] <Forecaster> http://imgur.com/a/6gx3L
L202[09:08:42] <Forecaster> it looks like the contaminated water (yellow) is touching the clean water, but it's not
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L205[09:59:50] <Michiyo> Working on MichiBot I might have figured out a way to get nickname pings working on discord
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L207[10:03:11] <Forecaster> woo
L208[10:14:52] <gamax92> 192KB of audio to corrupt
L209[10:23:29] <Michiyo> o_O
L210[10:31:03] <Ashindigo_> ?
L211[10:36:34] <gamax92> %flip e
L212[10:36:38] <MichiBot> gamax92: (╯°□°）╯ǝ
L213[10:36:49] <gamax92> %flip sǝpnu puǝs
L214[10:36:49] <MichiBot> gamax92: (╯°□°）╯send nudes
L215[10:37:00] <Michiyo> well.. it works
L216[10:37:12] <Michiyo> but the user has to send a message first :/
L217[10:38:38] <Ashindigo_> %flip flip
L218[10:38:40] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: (╯°□°）╯dılɟ
L219[10:38:59] * Lizzy mutters "come on Lizzy, you can do this! Just make the call!" to herself over and over
L220[10:39:02] <Forecaster> %inv add egg
L221[10:39:05] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Added 'egg' to inventory.
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L223[10:39:17] <Lizzy> %inv remove egg
L224[10:39:21] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Removed item from inventory
L225[10:39:22] <Lizzy> %inv add eggs
L226[10:39:23] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Added 'eggs' to inventory.
L227[10:39:27] <Forecaster> aw D:
L228[10:39:30] <Lizzy> %inv add term
L229[10:39:30] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Added 'term' to inventory.
L230[10:39:35] <Lizzy> %inv add I
L231[10:39:35] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Added 'I' to inventory.
L232[10:39:38] <Lizzy> %inv add nate
L233[10:39:38] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Added 'nate' to inventory.
L234[10:39:51] <Lizzy> :P
L235[10:40:06] <Lizzy> right, back to building myself up to make this phone call
L236[10:41:58] * Lizzy slaps herself
L237[10:41:58] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L238[10:42:02] * Lizzy slaps EnderBot2
L239[10:42:02] * EnderBot2 wonders why he deserved a slap
L240[10:42:08] <Lizzy> you know why
L241[10:42:10] <Lizzy> stupid bot
L242[10:42:47] <Lizzy> k, that number doesn't work
L243[10:42:53] <Michiyo> If it's what I think it's about, you can do it <3
L244[10:43:01] <Michiyo> If it's NOT what I think it's about, you can still do it <3
L245[10:43:01] <Michiyo> :p
L246[10:43:15] <Lizzy> it is
L247[10:43:30] <Lizzy> anxiety is doing jack shit to help at the moment
L248[10:44:23] <Lizzy> okay, phone call postponed cause i need to do some work stuff, but i will be doing it before i go hom
L249[10:50:12] <Lizzy> k, they didn't have any appointments tomorrow or friday, could do a saturday one but why would i want to waste my weekend when i can go during a week day?
L250[10:50:25] <Lizzy> Gotta call up tomorrow morning though to book that
L251[11:04:18] <Forecaster> https://xkcd.com/1802/
L252[11:04:19] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Phone Posted on: 2/22/2017
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L254[11:33:14] <Michiyo> Now we wait..
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L256[11:33:21] zsh sets mode: +v on Corded
L257[11:33:27] <Michiyo> Pings @MGR
L258[11:33:39] <Forecaster> woo
L259[11:33:39] <Mimiru> \o/
L260[11:33:57] <MGR> Warg
L261[11:34:06] <Ashindigo_> Yay!
L262[11:34:07] <Michiyo> IRC can ping discord nicknames now
L263[11:34:45] * Ashindigo_ gets back to debating about coke ovens
L264[11:35:00] <Michiyo> I just did a HashMap<String, User> and filled it on connect and on nickchange with NickName, Discord User
L265[11:35:07] <Michiyo> then on message lookup nickname in the table
L266[11:35:08] <gamax92> Michiyo: it's controlled audio corruption, it has to still yield the same audio content, bit perfect
L267[11:35:33] <gamax92> so it still sounds the same but ffmpeg spits out a bunch of errors and warnings during playback :D
L268[11:36:08] <Michiyo> lol...
L269[11:36:43] <MGR> @Mimiru wew
L270[11:36:53] <MGR> This is why you are 2nd best dev
L271[11:36:59] <gamax92> wow rude
L272[11:37:13] <MGR> After me and Sangar
L273[11:37:31] <MGR> I am 0th best
L274[11:37:39] <MGR> Sangar is 1st best
L275[11:37:39] <Forecaster> ...
L276[11:37:46] <MGR> Mimiru is 2nd best
L277[11:38:16] <MGR> http://www.anandtech.com/show/11143/amd-launch-ryzen-52-more-ipc-eight-cores-for-under-330-preorder-today-on-sale-march-2nd
L278[11:38:22] <MGR> Max hype
L279[11:39:15] <gamax92> I would have to purchase a new board, new ram, and new cpu to use that
L280[11:39:24] <gamax92> Core 2 Architecture hype!
L281[11:39:42] <MGR> Lol
L282[11:39:52] <MGR> I just built myself a computer
L283[11:39:52] <gamax92> one day I will ...
L284[11:40:06] <MGR> Can't do that again for a while
L285[11:40:16] <gamax92> but that day isn't soon cause the core 2 stuff runs just fine for what I do
L286[11:40:25] <MGR> My friend wants me to build him one though, which I will
L287[11:40:49] <MGR> Core 2 is still ok
L288[11:41:05] <MGR> Solo, Duo, Quad, or Extreme?
L289[11:41:09] <gamax92> Quad
L290[11:41:17] <MGR> Yeah
L291[11:41:25] <MGR> What GPU?
L292[11:42:01] <gamax92> GTX 650 Ti
L293[11:42:33] <MGR> Not bad
L294[11:42:36] <gamax92> my board is sadly limited to ~345 fsb or I would have overclocked the shit out of this processor
L295[11:42:38] <MGR> What RAM?
L296[11:42:42] <Lizzy> WargWarg
L297[11:43:16] <Ashindigo_> Curse you ATM expert devs
L298[11:43:30] <Ashindigo_> I can't skip around the coke oven
L299[11:44:30] <gamax92> on the old board I had I used to run it at +0.8 GHz
L300[11:45:03] <MGR> RYZEN IS SELLING ON NEWEGG
L301[11:45:10] <MGR> WHOO!
L302[11:45:15] <gamax92> but then I needed more memory and the sata ports were long since failing even before the oc'ing
L303[11:45:23] <MGR> Get ready for price cuts on Intel CPUs!
L304[11:48:10] <Michiyo> Welp... $653.83
L305[11:48:45] <Michiyo> http://puu.sh/ueZqb/9891310c39.png
L306[11:49:22] <Michiyo> Now, the question.... do I buy it.. lol
L307[11:50:26] <MGR> YES
L308[11:51:25] <Michiyo> My deposit is scheduled for tomorrow, I doubt I'll get it before Monday
L309[11:51:28] <Michiyo> so it's going to have to wait
L310[11:51:41] <MGR> Ok
L311[11:51:47] <MGR> Let me know how it turns out
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L313[11:52:09] <Lizzy> :O
L314[11:52:15] <Lizzy> r.i.p
L315[11:52:26] <MGR> I am so angry because I just built my computer with a 6850K
L316[11:53:02] <Michiyo> Oh hey.. almost lunch time
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L320[12:16:23] <darkmoo> tfw magik6k's dfpwm converter doesnt exist anymore so I cant write memes to tapes
L321[12:17:09] <gamax92> hmm
L322[12:17:45] <gamax92> darkmoo: well you can always use lionray :v
L323[12:18:03] <darkmoo> i tried but all it created was some glitchy file when I played it
L324[12:18:19] <darkmoo> really loud white noise pretty much
L325[12:18:43] <gamax92> darkmoo: what version of mc are you using
L326[12:18:54] <darkmoo> 1.7.10
L327[12:18:57] <gamax92> that'd be why
L328[12:19:03] <darkmoo> :( sad times
L329[12:19:36] <gamax92> Vexatos left the old dfpwm codec in 1.7.10 but put the newer codec in newer mc
L330[12:20:02] <gamax92> I should support both
L331[12:20:44] <darkmoo> so anything I can do or are my memes just a dream now
L332[12:21:08] <Vexatos> gamax92, I have them both at http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/
L333[12:21:19] <darkmoo> ooooo ty :>
L334[12:21:20] <Vexatos> both lionray versions, that is
L335[12:21:30] <gamax92> darkmoo: ahh well, the old version on that site should work
L336[12:21:46] <darkmoo> yeah got it now :D thx gonna try it out
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L338[12:23:07] <gamax92> I should make that into a gradle project!
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L340[12:25:59] <Ashindigo_> %pick white, grey, black
L341[12:26:08] <Lizzy> it's %choose
L342[12:26:36] <Ashindigo_> %choose white, grey, black
L343[12:26:36] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: white, grey, black
L344[12:26:49] <Vexatos> good choice
L345[12:26:51] <Forecaster> divider is "or"
L346[12:26:59] <Ashindigo_> Oh
L347[12:27:13] <Ashindigo_> %choose white or grey or black
L348[12:27:13] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: black
L349[12:27:21] <Ashindigo_> Yay
L350[12:29:58] <MGR> Uh
L351[12:30:11] <MGR> My friends got in a car crash
L352[12:30:12] <darkmoo> whooo! my dreams have been realised, thanks gamax92 and Vexatos
L353[12:30:30] <MGR> And I drove by like an idiot because I didn't realize it was then
L354[12:30:33] <MGR> Them*
L355[12:30:43] <MGR> And then they called me
L356[12:32:07] <ds84182> the version of OC in the Skyfactory 3 pack is broken as fuck ( ͡° ͟ʖ ͡°)
L357[12:32:20] <gamax92> oh hi ds
L358[12:32:23] <gamax92> long see no time
L359[12:32:45] <ds84182> ye
L360[12:33:10] <ds84182> *hey
L361[12:33:24] <ds84182> apparently I keep making robots with 0 internal components
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L363[12:42:08] <gamax92> LionRay is gradle now
L364[12:42:10] <MGR> ds84182, don't do that :p
L365[12:43:47] <ds84182> MGR: Well I keep putting components in the assembler
L366[12:43:56] <ds84182> but I get an empty robot when I take it out
L367[12:45:04] <Vexatos> gamax92, you turned lionray into gradle? D:
L368[12:45:12] <gamax92> Vexatos: yeah
L369[12:45:17] <Vexatos> Cool
L370[12:45:28] <Vexatos> gradle has surely never been this small!
L371[12:46:19] <vifino> {{citation needed}}
L372[12:48:39] <MGR> ds84182, open a bug report?
L373[12:49:05] <MGR> And support my GPU compute feature request while you're at it too please :p
L374[12:49:29] <ds84182> MGR: It's probably fixed in latest OC
L375[12:52:21] <MGR> Ah
L376[12:52:49] <MGR> Still support GPU compute though?
L377[12:53:04] <ds84182> Yeah, 1 sec
L378[12:54:34] <MGR> Wew
L379[12:55:47] <gamax92> mag wtf is this request.
L380[12:56:21] <MGR> ?
L381[12:56:26] <MGR> Also afk
L382[13:00:43] * Michiyo slaps @MGR
L383[13:00:43] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L384[13:01:00] <Ashindigo_> "Rulls"
L385[13:01:14] <Michiyo> Yeah, got a problem with that? :P
L386[13:02:28] * Ashindigo_ corrects the spelling mistake
L387[13:03:03] <Vexatos> I just realized that if I take half of my mods
L388[13:03:08] <Vexatos> add their lines of code together
L389[13:03:14] <Vexatos> I have half the lines of code that Selene has
L390[13:03:24] <Vexatos> wow
L391[13:03:27] <Vexatos> I sure make tiny mods
L392[13:04:46] <Vexatos> thanks reddit .-.
L393[13:06:48] <ds84182> COPROCESSORS YOU GUYS
L394[13:06:53] <ds84182> it would be great
L395[13:07:05] * Vexatos pokes Sangar
L396[13:08:47] <gamax92> ds84182: DEDICATED SOUND CPU
L397[13:08:54] * gamax92 pokes Vexatos
L398[13:09:33] <ds84182> YES
L399[13:09:52] <Michiyo> DEDICATED DEDICATED CPU!
L400[13:10:15] <ds84182> DEDOTADED WAM
L401[13:11:52] <Forecaster> deteriorated ram?
L402[13:12:46] <gamax92> I want to turn my useless iPad into a tablet for my pc
L403[13:12:47] <vifino> DEDICATED RAM CPU
L404[13:13:04] <gamax92> Teamviewer works ish, sometimes the tap doesn't go through though
L405[13:13:16] <vifino> gamax92: nomachine, maybe?
L406[13:13:29] <vifino> should be faster for sure.
L407[13:14:34] <gamax92> vifino: thanks, will try it
L408[13:15:05] <vifino> :)
L409[13:15:18] <gamax92> all I need is direct touch and not mouse cursor emulation
L410[13:15:30] <ds84182> You've got to love it when MC hangs when you click "Save and quit"
L411[13:15:41] <gamax92> ds84182: reminds me of OpenFM
L412[13:15:50] <gamax92> err I mean *cough* *cough*
L413[13:15:51] <Vexatos> gamax92, sound CPU? A SOUND CARD?!?!?!?!?!??!890345340967
L414[13:15:57] * Vexatos runs away
L415[13:16:09] <gamax92> ds84182: oh btw have you played with the Computronics Sound Card
L416[13:16:17] <Vexatos> I can confirm it is good
L417[13:16:23] <Vexatos> and it even works, which is more impressive!
L418[13:16:24] <vifino> afaik with windows remotes it actually does touch events, but i dunno. i really only use it with desktop machines.
L419[13:16:29] <ds84182> the one that lets you play any sound in the game?
L420[13:16:31] <ds84182> or is there a new one?
L421[13:16:39] <Vexatos> That is MassSound :P
L422[13:16:42] <gamax92> it's an 8 channel synthesizer
L423[13:16:42] <ds84182> Oh
L424[13:16:45] <ds84182> I'm an idiot
L425[13:16:56] <Vexatos> MassSound lets you play minecraft sounds
L426[13:17:13] <Vexatos> the Computronics sound card is like uuuh 30% me, 30% me and 40% gamax92 or so
L427[13:17:14] <vifino> but where is a perfect midi player?!
L428[13:17:27] <gamax92> 40% me?
L429[13:17:28] *** Mine|away is now known as minecreatr
L430[13:17:29] <gamax92> lol fuck you
L431[13:17:43] <Vexatos> gamax92, that includes coding the actual item
L432[13:17:50] <Vexatos> which are my first 30%
L433[13:17:55] <Vexatos> so the sound card itself is like 75% you
L434[13:18:02] <Vexatos> or something like that
L435[13:18:10] <Forecaster> I'm at least 40% me
L436[13:18:14] <Vexatos> can confirm
L437[13:18:36] <vifino> Aw man, i don't even know if I am 25% me.
L438[13:18:37] <vifino> :(
L439[13:18:47] <gamax92> "I wonder if this is on the aur and updated"
L440[13:18:47] <gamax92> "Yep"
L441[13:19:15] <Michiyo> bite me gamax92
L442[13:19:17] <Michiyo> :P
L443[13:19:48] <gamax92> Michiyo: tbh I think that was also fixed recently
L444[13:19:59] <Michiyo> Yeah, by you, so still bite me :P
L445[13:20:11] <gamax92> sure thing
L446[13:20:14] <Michiyo> lol
L447[13:26:33] <Vexatos> Sound card also was like 2% Temia I think
L448[13:26:44] <Vexatos> or more, considering it's named after her
L449[13:28:09] <Temia> 2% is about right.
L450[13:30:03] <Temia> I wasn't actually involved with the code but I helped design the implementation, fetched pertinent documents, etc.
L451[13:31:15] <gamax92> https://hastebin.com/rapikovife.sql
L452[13:35:08] <Vexatos> Temia, yea, something like that
L453[13:35:18] <gamax92> well my wifi adapter still doesn't work properly here so brb windows
L454[13:35:30] <Vexatos> gamax92 did almost all of the design, and I did most of the actual coding, something like that
L455[13:36:05] <Vexatos> It's hard to keep track because "design and planning" is not something you see on github
L456[13:36:11] <gamax92> hah
L457[13:36:13] <Temia> Yeah.
L458[13:36:20] <Vexatos> even though that was like 80% of the time spent on this
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L460[13:38:12] <gamax92> Temia: controlled file corruption
L461[13:49:20] <TYKUHN2> corruptFiles{target = "gamax92", location = "EsperIRC"}
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L463[13:53:21] <Inari> "Let some students make prototypes" Seems to be the new mantra for sketchy tech
L464[13:55:12] <TYKUHN2> NVIDIA!
L465[13:57:05] <gamax92> vifino: ooh, this is super slow and laggy
L466[13:57:26] <vifino> gamax92: tune the settings?
L467[13:57:39] * CompanionCube corrupts TYKHUN2
L468[13:57:59] <vifino> it should be much faster because it doesn't go over the internet.
L469[13:58:18] <vifino> but hell, what do i know.
L470[13:58:26] * vifino goes back to his cave
L471[14:07:28] <TYKUHN2> ok = queryOkayness()
L472[14:09:46] <Ashindigo_> %lua print(ok)
L473[14:09:50] <MichiBot> nil
L474[14:11:01] <TYKUHN2> if not ok then return end
L475[14:11:03] <Vexatos> %lua switch
L476[14:11:05] <MichiBot> nil
L477[14:11:09] <Vexatos> awww
L478[14:11:37] <Ashindigo_> %lua print(ok)
L479[14:11:37] <MichiBot> nil
L480[14:12:31] <Ashindigo_> Oops
L481[14:13:24] <TYKUHN2> Atleast I've tracked down the issue
L482[14:15:07] <Forecaster> was it that ok is nil?
L483[14:15:28] <Vexatos> Michiyo, selene when :3
L484[14:15:29] * Vexatos runs
L485[14:15:31] <Inari> %lua nil=true
L486[14:15:36] <MichiBot> main:1: unexpected symbol near 'nil'
L487[14:16:04] <Michiyo> Vexatos, I looked in to it, though I'm confused how I'd load it.. lol
L488[14:16:05] <Vexatos> The real question is
L489[14:16:27] <Vexatos> Michiyo, selene.load(whateverenvyouwantittobein, booleanwhethertoreplaceload)
L490[14:16:36] <Cruor> Vexatos: selling out knees again?
L491[14:16:37] <Michiyo> what all do I need to get it working, file wise
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L493[14:17:02] <Vexatos> Michiyo, only the lib, i.e. selene/init.lua and selene/parser.lua
L494[14:17:07] <Michiyo> ok
L495[14:17:10] <Vexatos> %lua setmetatable(nil, {})
L496[14:17:10] <MichiBot> bad argument #1 to 'setmetatable' (table expected, got nil)
L497[14:17:14] <Vexatos> phew
L498[14:18:25] <Michiyo> and I only need to load init, yes?
L499[14:19:15] <Vexatos> well, depends on how you load Lua code
L500[14:20:39] <Vexatos> if you don't use Lua's own function load, you need to parse it yourself, so you would do require("selene").load(theenv, true) to load the library
L501[14:20:48] <Vexatos> and then pipe all input through selene.parse
L502[14:20:54] <Vexatos> require("selene").parse
L503[14:20:56] <Vexatos> whatever
L504[14:21:51] <Vexatos> selene.parse takes selene source code and gives Lua source code which you then load normally
L505[14:22:06] <Vexatos> (it also takes Lua source code and does nothing with it)
L506[14:22:29] <Vexatos> Michiyo, make sure you are on the latest version of selene because I just quadrupled parsing speed in the last three commits :P
L507[14:22:55] <TYKUHN2> %lua setmetatable(string, {__add = function(a, b) return a .. b end})
L508[14:22:58] <MichiBot> table: 0x7fe0e06efcf0
L509[14:23:13] <TYKUHN2> %lua print("Hi there! " + "This is a test!")
L510[14:23:13] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to perform arithmetic on a string value
L511[14:23:18] <TYKUHN2> ?
L512[14:24:19] <Vexatos> it works with selene's wrapped strings :3
L513[14:24:24] <Vexatos> also with tables :D
L514[14:24:32] * Vexatos runs
L515[14:25:34] <TYKUHN2> %lua debug.setmetatable("", {__add = function(a, b) return a .. b end})
L516[14:25:34] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to call field 'setmetatable' (a nil value)
L517[14:25:49] <TYKUHN2> %lua debug
L518[14:25:50] <MichiBot> table: 0x7fe0e06edbc0
L519[14:26:07] <TYKUHN2> %lua for k, v in pairs(debug) do print(k) end
L520[14:26:21] <TYKUHN2> That might be a few messages
L521[14:26:34] <Ashindigo_> It should only be one
L522[14:26:43] * Ashindigo_ hides the for loop he did
L523[14:27:48] <payonel> Inari: https://www.instagram.com/kittenxlady/
L524[14:29:13] <Michiyo> Vexatos, I just grabbed the latest, so I assume I'm on the latest :p
L525[14:29:32] <Vexatos> well it's over a week old that commit
L526[14:29:33] <Vexatos> so yea
L527[14:31:20] <Michiyo> Vexatos, https://git.io/vDhbz
L528[14:34:14] <Michiyo> oh neat... a NPE, somewhere
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L530[14:36:33] <Michiyo> Vexatos, it does not like me calling luaState.load() with selene lol
L531[14:38:18] <Vexatos> D:
L532[14:38:53] <Michiyo> I don't even get an error, it just tosses me to LuaState.class in eclipse
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L534[14:40:45] <Vexatos> nice
L535[14:42:50] <Ashindigo_> %stab Ashindigo_
L536[14:42:54] * MichiBot stabs Ashindigo_ with a flamingo doing [13] damage
L537[14:43:55] <Michiyo> gamax92, may know more than me, seeing as he wrote it.. but I'm doing the same thing he did to load the luasb.lua (which may be the problem, I AM an idiot after all.)
L538[14:44:08] * Ashindigo_ facepalms while a flamingo is impaled into him
L539[14:46:57] <Vexatos> I have no idea how it works, don't ask me :P
L540[14:47:37] <S3> so
L541[14:49:56] <Michiyo> %stab #oc
L542[14:49:58] * MichiBot slaps #oc with inventory doing [12] damage
L543[14:49:58] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L544[14:50:05] <Michiyo> lol..
L545[14:51:11] <S3> %stab emptystring
L546[14:51:14] * MichiBot hits emptystring with Inari's collection of "stuff" doing [5] damage
L547[14:51:28] <S3> lol
L548[14:51:34] <S3> it's basically a "pelt" clone
L549[14:51:39] <S3> that's great
L550[14:53:33] <Temia> So far nobody's gotten assaulted with no tea.
L551[14:54:04] <Inari> teabagging?
L552[14:54:09] <S3> haha
L553[14:54:24] <Temia> Obviously not
L554[14:54:26] <Temia> Because there's no tea.
L555[14:54:32] <Inari> %inventory add teabag
L556[14:54:32] <MichiBot> Inari: Added 'teabag' to inventory.
L557[14:54:55] <Temia> Carrying tea AND no tea? We've got a heavy-duty philosopher here
L558[14:55:13] <S3> ...
L559[14:55:36] * CompanionCube gives Temia tea
L560[14:55:42] * Temia sip.
L561[14:57:19] <S3> %inventory add Inari
L562[14:57:20] <MichiBot> S3: Added 'Inari' to inventory.
L563[14:57:21] <S3> fixed.
L564[14:57:54] <CompanionCube> %inventory add %inventory
L565[14:57:55] <Ashindigo_> %stab a dummy
L566[14:57:58] * MichiBot slaps a dummy with A mouldy pear doing [12] damage
L567[14:57:58] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L568[14:57:59] <MichiBot> CompanionCube: Added '%inventory' to inventory.
L569[14:58:09] <CompanionCube> :D
L570[14:58:22] <S3> %inventory add bago'dicks
L571[14:58:25] <MichiBot> S3: Added 'bago'dicks' to inventory.
L572[14:59:17] <Ashindigo_> %inventory add S3
L573[14:59:18] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: Added 'S3' to inventory.
L574[14:59:26] <S3> %stab macbooks
L575[14:59:27] * MichiBot hits macbooks with Banhammer doing [10] damage
L576[14:59:56] <S3> oh. gotta have..
L577[15:00:02] <S3> %inventory add Sangar
L578[15:00:04] <MichiBot> S3: Added 'Sangar' to inventory.
L579[15:03:08] <Michiyo> Vexatos, looks like it's dying on the require..
L580[15:03:35] <S3> I once had this really cool IRC bot
L581[15:03:38] <S3> I forgot what it was..
L582[15:03:43] <S3> but it learned language pragmas and such
L583[15:03:57] <S3> and we decided to teach it esperanto, soon , it was the ONLY language it knew
L584[15:04:04] <Vexatos> Michiyo, is your Lua path messed up perhaps :P
L585[15:04:07] <S3> and it almost pulled it off pretty good
L586[15:04:23] <Michiyo> Vexatos, I don't even know how that works :D
L587[15:04:35] <Vexatos> #lua PATH
L588[15:04:40] <Vexatos> #lua package.path
L589[15:04:46] <Vexatos> %lua package.path
L590[15:04:46] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to index global 'package' (a nil value)
L591[15:04:47] <Vexatos> >_>
L592[15:04:52] <Vexatos> well thanks
L593[15:05:14] <Ashindigo_> %lua work()
L594[15:05:15] <MichiBot> main:1: attempt to call global 'work' (a nil value)
L595[15:05:53] <gamax92> package is not loaded
L596[15:06:25] <Vexatos> that explains why require isn't there
L597[15:06:36] <Michiyo> locally that returns C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.8.0_91\bin\lua\?.lua;C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.8.0_91\bin\lua\?\init.lua;C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.8.0_91\bin\?.lua;C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.8.0_91\bin\?\init.lua;.\?.lua
L598[15:06:47] <Michiyo> No idea what it'd return on Hekate
L599[15:13:39] <TYKUHN2> %inv add Rage
L600[15:13:43] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2: Added 'Rage' to inventory.
L601[15:14:39] <Ashindigo_> %stab anger
L602[15:14:43] * MichiBot stabs anger with Sangar doing [4] damage
L603[15:14:56] <Forecaster> òhmy
L604[15:17:13] <Michiyo> Vexatos, eh, I can't get it to work, feel free to fork, fix, and PR :P
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L606[15:17:42] <TYKUHN2> Ashindigo_ That deserves a ban ?
L607[15:18:15] * Ashindigo_ flees
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L609[15:19:03] * Michiyo bans "That"
L610[15:19:37] <Forecaster> well, at least we've got This
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L612[15:20:08] <TYKUHN2> ```load(function() return drive.read(file, 2048) end)``` feels like a small way of writing "LOAD THIS FILE DAMNIT"
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L615[15:26:29] <TYKUHN2> WHYYY
L616[15:26:43] <TYKUHN2> Minecraft is stuck on "Loading mods" and does not appear to be using a lot of CPU
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L618[15:27:19] <Forecaster> what about disk read?
L619[15:27:22] <TYKUHN2> IDK
L620[15:27:32] <TYKUHN2> But killing minecraft launcher appears to instantly ramp it up to full speed
L621[15:28:25] <Ashindigo_> %calc 1024 * 5
L622[15:28:29] <MichiBot> Ashindigo_: 5,120
L623[15:28:49] <TYKUHN2> %calc 10000000 ^ 10000000000
L624[15:28:49] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2: ∞
L625[15:28:52] <TYKUHN2> ?
L626[15:28:54] <Ashindigo_> Yay
L627[15:30:07] <Michiyo> %calc the meaning of life
L628[15:30:08] <MichiBot> Michiyo: 42
L629[15:30:25] <TYKUHN2> %calc 42
L630[15:30:25] <MichiBot> TYKUHN2: 42
L631[15:30:28] <TYKUHN2> ?
L632[15:30:43] <Ashindigo_> %calc pi
L633[15:31:02] <Michiyo> nope, if you want anything more advanced than basic math, look elsewhere
L634[15:36:14] <Forecaster> %calc pies
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L636[15:39:10] <TYKUHN2> ?
L637[15:39:27] <TYKUHN2> Bad argument #1 string expected got nil
L638[15:40:25] <TYKUHN2> Maybe it could be ```pcall(drive.open(".boot", "r"))```
L639[15:41:44] <TYKUHN2> It must be ```drive.open(path, "r")``` then
L640[15:41:55] <TYKUHN2> Only first argument variable I have in that function
L641[15:42:09] <Vexatos> Michiyo, path looks very correct
L642[15:42:14] <Vexatos> maybe it will work if you load path?
L643[15:42:44] <Vexatos> load package, I mean
L644[15:42:53] <Vexatos> and then also add whatever dir selene is in to the path
L645[15:43:43] <S3> neural networks
L646[15:44:03] <MGR> S3, those are cool, but what about them?
L647[15:44:19] <TYKUHN2> ```error(path)``` returns nil. FML
L648[15:44:38] <MGR> Alright
L649[15:44:45] <MGR> time to do more GERTi development!
L650[15:45:37] <TYKUHN2> Can't remember why I refuse to use the Lua eeprom
L651[15:45:48] <TYKUHN2> But I REFUSE
L652[15:45:52] <MGR> why
L653[15:47:10] <TYKUHN2> Mine supports unmanaged drive loading anyways so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L654[15:48:31] <MGR> kewlio
L655[15:48:56] <MGR> AMD Ryzen hype
L656[15:49:15] <MGR> Amazon and Newegg are selling them now
L657[15:49:35] * Ashindigo_ hypes?
L658[15:49:44] <TYKUHN2> WTF
L659[15:49:47] <TYKUHN2> ?
L660[15:49:59] <MGR> https://www.amazon.com/MSI-X370-XPOWER-GAMING-TITANIUM/dp/B06WLNZ1JH/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1487800140&sr=8-4&keywords=Ryzen+1800x
L661[15:50:06] <MGR> This is one sick looking motherboard
L662[15:50:33] <TYKUHN2> ```load(yaddayadaa, "=bootInfo@" .. path)
L663[15:50:34] <TYKUHN2> drive.close(file)
L664[15:50:34] <TYKUHN2> path = nil``` returns "ATTEMPT TO CONCATENATE NIL PATH"
L665[15:51:13] <Corded> * TYKUHN2 heavy breathing
L666[15:51:40] <MGR> https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GIGABYTE-GA-AX370-Gaming-Motherboard-Motherboards/dp/B06WLMWYMF/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1487800251&sr=8-9&keywords=AMD+X370
L667[15:51:46] <MGR> That one looks good too
L668[15:51:46] * Ashindigo_ takes a nap while his ember bore gathers ember
L669[15:53:59] <MGR> gamax92, why don't you like GPU compute?
L670[15:55:50] <TYKUHN2> Code became more sane
L671[15:56:37] <TYKUHN2> I see
L672[15:56:56] <TYKUHN2> I think I might have syntactic errors and "load" is just freakishly upset.
L673[15:59:00] <TYKUHN2> I was hoping I didn't need that error check
L674[15:59:33] <Michiyo> Vexatos, the path is in the jar.. :P
L675[15:59:48] <TYKUHN2> %lua path
L676[15:59:48] <MichiBot> nil
L677[15:59:54] <TYKUHN2> The path is nil ?
L678[15:59:59] <Michiyo> ... ._.
L679[16:00:56] <Vexatos> Michiyo, package isn't loaded
L680[16:01:03] <Vexatos> and I mean setting the path after loading package >:>
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L682[16:03:00] <TYKUHN2> Syntactically fixed
L683[16:03:44] <Michiyo> Vexatos, I'm aware, I HAVE it loaded in dev.
L684[16:03:49] <Michiyo> It's right there...
L685[16:03:52] * Michiyo points to line of code
L686[16:04:03] <Michiyo> But the path to the file... is in the bot's jar.
L687[16:04:12] <TYKUHN2> My EEPROM is becoming unstable fast
L688[16:04:47] <Michiyo> so putting it on the path would be jar/resources/jnlua/selene/
L689[16:05:14] <Forecaster> @TYKUHN2: you need more struts
L690[16:05:15] * Ashindigo_ copies tyks eeprom
L691[16:05:57] <TYKUHN2> NVIDIA
L692[16:07:01] <IzayaXMPP> nah
L693[16:07:05] <IzayaXMPP> more boosters
L694[16:07:28] <TYKUHN2> Anyone interested in looking at why it's unstable?
L695[16:08:02] <Ashindigo_> Don't have an actual oc computer yet but sure
L696[16:10:15] <TYKUHN2> http://pastebin.com/bmR9ZDNv
L697[16:15:11] <Inari> Define unstable
L698[16:15:54] <TYKUHN2> Randomly chooses to either boot or fail to boot with "No bootable medium found" error
L699[16:16:20] <Inari> Multiple drives?
L700[16:16:48] <TYKUHN2> Yes two, which I just thought of the list() maybe screwing it up
L701[16:17:06] <Inari> I don't think its an assured order but who knows
L702[16:17:20] <TYKUHN2> component.list() is random I'm pretty sure
L703[16:17:55] <Inari> That would seem to be the issue then
L704[16:18:20] <TYKUHN2> Not entirely sure why it's an issue and I'm dealing with Nvidia right now
L705[16:19:07] <Inari> Well
L706[16:19:13] <Inari> I'd assume only one drive is a bootable medium?
L707[16:19:20] <TYKUHN2> Yes
L708[16:19:29] <Inari> Thus if it encounters teh unbootable drive first...
L709[16:19:44] <TYKUHN2> One is loaded with codename "ACDOS" other is loaded with OpenOS
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L711[16:27:47] <TYKUHN2> I imagine ```while true do
L712[16:27:47] <TYKUHN2> local success, drive = pcall(component.proxy, list())
L713[16:27:48] <TYKUHN2> if not success then
L714[16:27:48] <TYKUHN2> break
L715[16:27:48] <TYKUHN2> end
L716[16:27:48] <TYKUHN2> readManaged(drive)
L717[16:27:49] <TYKUHN2> end``` is sufficient to bypass unbootable drive errors?
L718[16:28:14] <MGR> just wondering
L719[16:28:24] <MGR> when I type a component address into a computer, do I have to include the -'s?
L720[16:29:55] <IzayaXMPP> generally yes
L721[16:30:07] <IzayaXMPP> also huh HIMEM.SYS was breaking DSL
L722[16:32:34] <CompanionCube> IzayaXMPP: DOSProblems?
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L724[16:34:28] <IzayaXMPP> ofc
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L726[16:34:36] <TYKUHN2> msinfo32 failed to generate an nfo file that was recognized. WTF
L727[16:35:12] <MGR> ladies and gentlemen
L728[16:35:14] <MGR> I have good news
L729[16:35:27] <MGR> GERTi's latest developments have been almost completely validated
L730[16:35:31] <MGR> one more thing to do
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L733[16:42:26] <MGR> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
L734[16:42:33] <MGR> and of course that last thing has to be broken
L735[16:43:06] <TYKUHN2> My previous statement about the loop appears correct, which doesn't explain the instability
L736[16:43:18] * Ashindigo_ complains about his lack of ender shards
L737[16:43:20] <Ashindigo_> *ember
L738[16:43:57] <MGR> hmmm
L739[16:44:21] <MGR> this would of course be easier if an event error printed a full error traceback, not a one-liner in event.log
L740[16:46:05] <MGR> ok, so that's unrelated
L741[16:46:10] <MGR> something in the gateway is breaking
L742[16:46:17] <Corded> * MGR makes a mental check to fix that error
L743[16:46:39] <MGR> oh, I think that error is related
L744[16:53:13] * Ashindigo_ stumbles into what he thoughr was a mineshafr
L745[16:53:30] * Ashindigo_ looks at is surroundings and wonders what fresh hell he walked into
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L747[16:57:59] <MGR> payonel, are you there?
L748[17:02:17] <MGR> afk actually, sorry
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L750[17:03:47] <Ashindigo_> Oh holy hell its multi leveled
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L752[17:06:54] <Michiyo> Meh...
L753[17:06:55] <Michiyo> fuck this
L754[17:09:12] <Forecaster> you should totally ban This along with That
L755[17:09:19] <Forecaster> who needs either of em
L756[17:14:00] <IzayaXMPP> wait what happened
L757[17:15:09] <Lizzy> ^
L758[17:15:32] <Michiyo> My "fuck this" was re: selene loading in MichiBot
L759[17:16:15] <Michiyo> re: banning This along with That, someone said "That was a bannable offense" so I banned "that"
L760[17:16:47] <gamax92> @MGR because it's a super shit suggestion
L761[17:17:01] * Ashindigo_ offloads all the crap he got onto someone's lap
L762[17:20:50] <IzayaXMPP> noted
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L764[17:23:36] <MGR> gamax92, why?
L765[17:23:46] <MGR> It can be really good if people use it right
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L767[17:33:47] <TYKUHN2> g
L768[17:34:32] <TYKUHN2> G?
L769[17:34:44] <TYKUHN2> Well Nvidia had me reinstall here's hoping it worked
L770[17:34:52] <MGR> alright I'm back
L771[17:34:55] <MGR> payonel, you there?
L772[17:35:51] <TYKUHN2> I'm going to work on improving my graphics driver if anyone solves the mysterious unstable eeprom
L773[17:41:44] <MGR> and I need to fix GERTi ?
L774[17:41:58] <payonel> sup
L775[17:43:02] <MGR> not much payonel, how are you doing?
L776[17:43:36] <Ashindigo_> Kinda tired
L777[17:44:58] <MGR> payonel, I think OC could really benefit from GPU compute
L778[17:45:35] <MGR> For software fallback, CPU multithreading could be utilized for a performance uplift from singlethreading, but of course not as big a boost as hardware GPU Compute
L779[17:46:09] <MGR> While it does increase the compute resources of a computer, it's much more challenging to make use of that increased power, as opposed to just increasing the CPU's speed
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L782[17:47:56] <payonel> well, i personally am not in favor of "more power, but behind a challenge wall"
L783[17:48:19] <payonel> my position is either we add a feature or we dont, and if we do, let's make it easy to use
L784[17:48:22] <MGR> payonel, but that's how real computers work
L785[17:48:25] <payonel> so?
L786[17:48:35] <payonel> and no -
L787[17:48:40] <MGR> Let me put it this way
L788[17:48:43] <payonel> you're misreading what i'm saying (a bit)
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L790[17:49:12] <payonel> hold on, work calls
L791[17:49:15] <MGR> The skill level of a person who could code something that could benefit from GPU compute would probably also be the skill level of a person who could harness GPU compute
L792[17:53:17] <Forecaster> a tree is a tree is a tree
L793[17:53:39] <MGR> @Forecaster yes?
L794[17:53:43] <MGR> ~w modem
L795[17:53:43] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L796[17:55:41] <Forecaster> oh, I thought it was tautology day
L797[17:56:53] <Ashindigo_> Tautology?
L798[17:57:43] <Forecaster> it could be today, since it's not a real thing :P
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L802[18:03:42] <payonel> mgr: irl, we dont put cool features behind challenge walls for the feels. in fact, we try to make cool features easy to use. a challenge wall does not make a feature good
L803[18:04:13] <MGR> OK, fine
L804[18:04:19] <MGR> Add GPU compute and make it easy to use
L805[18:04:32] <gamax92> you've also not said anything about restrictions
L806[18:04:44] <MGR> There's obviously going to have to be a speed restriction
L807[18:04:58] <MGR> I mean an explicit one
L808[18:05:02] <gamax92> also, who's going to implement this GPU Compute?
L809[18:05:07] <ds84182> DEDICATED ENCRYPTION COPROCESSOR ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L810[18:05:07] <MGR> there would be an implicit CPU limitation
L811[18:05:24] <MGR> gamax92, it exceeds my capabilities in 2 ways
L812[18:05:36] <MGR> 1. I don't know how to OpenCL (I hope to remedy this someday)
L813[18:05:41] <MGR> 2. I barely know how to MC mod
L814[18:06:00] <gamax92> so lets see, you're not going to work on it, I don't want to work on it, payonel has expressed disintress in the idea
L815[18:06:07] <ds84182> I would never let a minecraft mod use OpenCL
L816[18:06:11] <gamax92> same
L817[18:06:13] <ds84182> especially for user written stuff
L818[18:06:14] <MGR> but why though
L819[18:06:16] <gamax92> same
L820[18:06:24] <ds84182> while(true); is known to kill drivers
L821[18:06:48] <ds84182> And also
L822[18:06:51] <MGR> do the same must yield thing that OC does for CPUs right now
L823[18:06:59] <ds84182> >OpenCL
L824[18:07:02] <ds84182> >Yield and persist
L825[18:07:05] <ds84182> choose one
L826[18:07:11] <MGR> what?
L827[18:07:57] <ds84182> :/
L828[18:08:37] <ds84182> You can't just tell OpenCL "Hey I want you to stop doing things for a sec"
L829[18:08:47] <MGR> uh
L830[18:09:05] <MGR> why not?
L831[18:09:14] <ds84182> because thats not how anything works
L832[18:09:22] <MGR> It's how OC works right now
L833[18:09:36] <ds84182> When you say OpenCL, do you mean REAL OPENCL?
L834[18:09:49] <MGR> that would be ideal
L835[18:10:01] <ds84182> ...
L836[18:10:23] <ds84182> Real OpenCL, on a library level, cannot be yielded
L837[18:10:33] <ds84182> it also can't freeze an operation and continue it later
L838[18:10:47] <ds84182> A fake OpenCL thing could
L839[18:11:03] <ds84182> But then we'd have to write a custom language, etc
L840[18:11:18] <MGR> why can't it be yielded though?
L841[18:11:29] <ds84182> Because the library doesn't have yielding in it
L842[18:11:36] <ds84182> it is impossible to yield an OpenCL operation
L843[18:11:47] <MGR> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah
L844[18:11:51] <MGR> I was misunderstanding stuff
L845[18:12:10] <MGR> I knew GPUs could context switch, but I didn't realize OpenCL couldn't yield (i've never used it)
L846[18:12:52] <MGR> Is there time slicing or anything?
L847[18:13:20] <MGR> Or what about an interface between OC and OpenCL that kill the process if it is taking too long
L848[18:13:22] <ds84182> It's OpenCL. Since it's intended for speed they wouldn't add something to let you slow it down
L849[18:13:58] <ds84182> Plus, like I said before, while(true); is known to kill drivers
L850[18:14:17] <ds84182> If I run `while(true);` in an OpenCL kernel on my laptop my entire hardware will lock up
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L852[18:15:25] * Ashindigo_ sends that to his enemies
L853[18:15:26] <ds84182> And killing the process in some situations will do nothing if the process gets stuck executing something in a kernel thread
L854[18:15:46] <ds84182> (at least in Linux, dunno about Windows and MacOS)
L855[18:16:25] <ds84182> I'd never give OC the ability to run even shader code on my GPU
L856[18:17:04] <ds84182> god knows these glsl compilers probably have some bugs in them that can cause crashes in various places
L857[18:17:28] <MGR> GPUs can context switch, so I don't understand how it could lock up forever
L858[18:17:37] <MGR> Windows TDR would save you in the end
L859[18:17:42] <ds84182> *Some GPUs can context switch
L860[18:17:54] <ds84182> It depends on the GPU
L861[18:18:08] <MGR> DX11 on can I believe
L862[18:18:14] <ds84182> And the drivers controlling it
L863[18:18:28] <MGR> AMD Radeon 5000 on and Nvidia 400 series on would
L864[18:19:19] <MGR> Admittedly, it's not an easy implementation
L865[18:19:36] <MGR> but the rewards are so tremendous
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L867[18:20:13] <MGR> even 1% of an HD530 iGPU would probably thrash an OC CPU if used properly
L868[18:21:52] <ds84182> https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ContextSwitching/ shows that earlier Nvidia cards had manual context switching when there weren't any command channels left
L869[18:22:04] <MGR> I SUPPOSE that if everyone refuses to do anything, I can throw it on the pile after TACEATS2-EX
L870[18:22:33] <MGR> yeah
L871[18:22:36] <MGR> and those cards are old
L872[18:23:52] <ds84182> Also various stackoverflow issues like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16175837/opencl-computation-freezes-the-screen
L873[18:27:10] <MGR> this is why we would kill the process
L874[18:27:18] <MGR> if it took too long
L875[18:27:48] <ds84182> This isn't something thats process level though
L876[18:28:05] <MGR> What?
L877[18:28:55] <ds84182> The "freeze" is when the kernel driver is talking to the hardware
L878[18:29:05] <ds84182> So killing the process has no effect
L879[18:29:35] <MGR> uh
L880[18:30:02] <MGR> that's old hardware??
L881[18:30:18] <ds84182> ...
L882[18:30:21] <MGR> and old drivers
L883[18:30:25] <ds84182> no
L884[18:30:30] <MGR> maybe they fixed it since then?
L885[18:31:19] <MGR> Dude, I really don't know
L886[18:31:25] <Xilandro> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L887[18:31:32] <MGR> I know 0 OpenCL and haven't even looked at how to OpenCL
L888[18:31:57] <ds84182> Then how the hell are you going to ask to implement OpenCL in OC but know 0 OpenCL???
L889[18:31:58] <MGR> maybe it's best to be tabled until I can get a handle on it
L890[18:32:07] <MGR> ask someone else to do it? XD
L891[18:32:09] <MGR> I know I know
L892[18:32:28] * Ashindigo_ hides with his non-existant coke bricks
L893[18:32:33] <MGR> I'll say table it until I can actually provide assistance
L894[18:32:51] <Ashindigo_> %stab earbuds
L895[18:32:56] * MichiBot stabs earbuds with food doing [3] damage
L896[18:35:42] <MGR> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
L897[18:35:48] <MGR> I guess I gotta learn C++ too
L898[18:35:59] <MGR> this is turning into another Bagel...
L899[18:36:25] <CompanionCube> why do you have to learn C++
L900[18:37:19] <MGR> CompanionCube, http://www.drdobbs.com/parallel/a-gentle-introduction-to-opencl/231002854
L901[18:37:38] <MGR> In developing an OpenCL project, the first step is to code the host application. This runs on a user's computer (the host) and dispatches kernels to connected devices. The host application can be coded in C or C++,
L902[18:37:50] <MGR> Unless something changed in the 6 years since this was written XD
L903[18:37:56] <CompanionCube> why are you using C++
L904[18:37:56] <MGR> Quite possible
L905[18:38:01] <CompanionCube> s/C++/OpenCL/
L906[18:38:01] <MichiBot> <CompanionCube> why are you using OpenCL++
L907[18:38:14] <MGR> A. Because I want to learn how
L908[18:38:20] <MGR> B. Because I want OC GPU Compute
L909[18:38:39] <CompanionCube> ....I'm not going to ask why you want GPU compute for OC.
L910[18:38:41] <MGR> At the rate I'm working through my queue, it's going to take a year though
L911[18:42:58] <MGR> This sucks though
L912[18:43:16] <MGR> Getting GPU Compute added in time for me to learn OpenCL would have been so awesome
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L914[18:51:28] <gamax92> @MGR Enjoy cat pictures and accept that OC will not expose host capabilities to MC
L915[18:51:41] <MGR> gamax92, but why though
L916[18:51:48] <gamax92> ds84182 has already explained to you why
L917[18:54:30] <MGR> gamax92, but there has to be a way to stop that
L918[18:56:16] <ds84182> ha
L919[18:56:17] <ds84182> lol
L920[18:56:24] <ds84182> anyways, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/2283
L921[18:56:27] <Xal> what are we yelling about
L922[18:57:11] <ds84182> I've already experimented with coprocessors in OC before (but they ran ARM code, not Lua)
L923[18:57:29] <ds84182> gamax92: DEDICATED SOUND PROCESSORS
L924[18:58:46] <ds84182> Coprocessors do become quite dicey for arches that aren't Lua...
L925[18:59:15] <MGR> ds84182, what about a GPU compute processor?
L926[18:59:19] <Corded> * MGR waggles eyebrows
L927[18:59:23] <ds84182> OpenARMs wouldn't be happy if you removed some memory from it while it is running
L928[18:59:49] <ds84182> Maybe arches can lock what coprocessors can be used with what arch
L929[19:00:35] <ds84182> So I could disallow Lua coprocessors with OpenARMs but allow ARM coprocessors with OpenARMs to share memory space
L930[19:00:56] <ds84182> But virtualization!!
L931[19:01:17] <gamax92> the thing that's nice about Computronics's Sound Card is that it will buffer a bit of instructions, no attempting to queue all the notes exactly per tick
L932[19:01:44] <gamax92> and also sub tick delays
L933[19:04:15] <gamax92> play a song at ... ~35.71 Hz in a 20 Hz game!
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L935[19:06:55] <Firingpan> does anyone know of a go os to use for a server other than openos?
L936[19:07:33] <MGR> there's plan9k
L937[19:08:36] <Firingpan> what is it called or is it on the openprograms?
L938[19:08:45] <gamax92> it's called plan9k
L939[19:09:00] <Xilandro> It's on oppm, as plan9k
L940[19:09:28] <Xilandro> Heh, another st louisan =D
L941[19:11:13] <Firingpan> hmm
L942[19:12:08] <Firingpan> i was trying to use the dns server thing but could figure out how it worked
L943[19:12:44] <Xilandro> What are you wanting your server to do
L944[19:13:33] <Firingpan> connect all my computers together
L945[19:13:50] <Xilandro> Yes, but to what end? Why do you need your computers connected to a server specifically?
L946[19:13:53] <MGR> Firingpan, what you're looking for is called GERTi!
L947[19:13:58] <Xilandro> Why not just link them together with relays
L948[19:14:01] <MGR> unfortunately, it isn't finished yet
L949[19:14:04] <Xilandro> Then they can talk to each other, no servers needed
L950[19:14:25] <Firingpan> oh mgr whats that do?
L951[19:16:08] <Firingpan> ya but Xilandro i want them to also sure the same hdd
L952[19:16:41] <MGR> Firingpan, it let's you open network connections between computers easily and transfer information between them
L953[19:16:42] <Xilandro> Ehhhh that's a bit hard to do without each computer running code on boot to bind the proper screen, keyboard, etc to it
L954[19:16:56] <Xilandro> And even then you'll end up with components getting crossed
L955[19:18:25] <MGR> I'm trying to finish it, but I've run into some bugs, and not all the code is implemented yet
L956[19:18:35] <MGR> I've put it on an accelerated schedule though
L957[19:19:26] <Firingpan> Nice! Corded , Xilandro what could i use a server for anyway? i want to use one because it so much cheaper in 1.10.2 now:)
L958[19:20:15] <Xilandro> I recently started coding a program to monitor a Big Reactor (Extreme Reactor in 1.10 I guess) and networking the data back to a central server that's going to be dealing with most of my base monitoring
L959[19:20:25] <Xilandro> Still working out some kinks though
L960[19:21:05] <MGR> Xilandro, that can run on GERTi
L961[19:21:11] <MGR> with GERTe, you can even make a webpanel
L962[19:21:19] <Xilandro> Can? Yes. Will I bother? Probably not
L963[19:21:29] <Xilandro> I've said time and again I'd rather code my own shit
L964[19:22:59] <Xal> does GERTi perform an integrity check by summing all of its own characters together, too?
L965[19:23:16] <Firingpan> ok now if i wanted to use the server to control all doors in my base and monitor all the times a password had been entered and the password inputed would that be a good idea to have a server?
L966[19:24:34] <MGR> Firingpan, probably
L967[19:24:41] <MGR> Xal, A. Where is the question coming from?
L968[19:24:43] <MGR> B. No
L969[19:25:16] <Firingpan> mainly i want ot add security to my base
L970[19:27:04] <MGR> Firingpan, then you would be interested in TACEATS2!
L971[19:27:19] <MGR> It doesn't perform access control, but it shoots everyone who shouldn't be there
L972[19:27:19] <Xal> that's what i was referring to
L973[19:27:32] <MGR> Xal, ????
L974[19:27:36] <Xal> bagel
L975[19:28:31] <gamax92> bacon
L976[19:29:08] <Firingpan> chicken?
L977[19:29:23] <Xal> did you ever finish the ~proprietary encryption~ you refused to tell me about
L978[19:30:04] <Xilandro> Firing, you should check out OpenSecurity
L979[19:30:05] <MGR> Xal, A. I talked to you about it?
L980[19:30:26] <MGR> B. The prototype is done, but it needs to get some enhancements
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L982[19:30:33] <Firingpan> well this is hermitpack on a server soo.. i can't really change the mods
L983[19:30:39] <MGR> Delta compression, better encryption, embedded check codes
L984[19:30:52] <MGR> Firingpan, ah, well you need OpenSecurity for TACEATS2
L985[19:30:53] <Xilandro> Ahh
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L987[19:31:13] <Xilandro> That's a shame, OpenSec is great if you want to monitor and control access to your base
L988[19:31:21] <Firingpan> yea
L989[19:31:21] <MGR> indeed
L990[19:31:45] <Firingpan> i use alot of redstone though
L991[19:35:04] <Xal> I can't recall what you were using encryption for, anyhow
L992[19:35:07] <Xal> what is it used for atm
L993[19:36:54] <Firingpan> so is there a crafting recipe for plan9k
L994[19:38:42] <Firingpan> or how do i get it?
L995[19:40:05] <Firingpan> wait nvm found it
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L997[19:40:55] <MGR> Xal, it doesn't really have a use atm
L998[19:41:09] <MGR> It has planned uses though
L999[19:41:13] <MGR> After upgrades
L1000[19:42:04] <Xal> I believe you were storing the key inside the "ciphertext" anyhow?
L1001[19:42:39] <MGR> Yes
L1002[19:42:51] <Xal> what was the use of it then?
L1003[19:44:01] <MGR> Xal, use of what?
L1004[19:44:29] <Xal> why even have the "encryption" if the key was stored in the output?
L1005[19:44:49] <MGR> A. Not everyone knows what it is and how it works
L1006[19:45:03] <MGR> B. The real functionality got scrapped at the last second
L1007[19:45:11] <MGR> Due to massive time overruns
L1008[19:45:15] <Xal> what's the replacement, then
L1009[19:45:23] <MGR> Bagel 1.4
L1010[19:45:46] <Xal> does the encryption actually do anything this time?
L1011[19:45:55] <MGR> A. It does now
L1012[19:46:02] <MGR> B. It will be better then, yes
L1013[19:46:13] <Xal> how does it work now
L1014[19:46:21] <MGR> Uh
L1015[19:46:27] <MGR> One minute
L1016[19:46:45] <Mimiru> %calc 207235 - 207945
L1017[19:46:47] <MichiBot> Mimiru: -710
L1018[19:47:20] <MGR> https://github.com/GlobalEmpire/OC-Programs/blob/master/Libraries/bagel.lua
L1019[19:47:29] <MGR> Xal, there
L1020[19:48:07] <Xal> The key is still stored in the output?
L1021[19:48:25] <MGR> Yes
L1022[19:48:47] <Xal> what's the point of any of this
L1023[19:48:59] <MGR> It's a start
L1024[19:49:07] <MGR> A mediocre one, but a start
L1025[19:49:14] <Xal> to what?!
L1026[19:49:27] <MGR> A better encryption system
L1027[19:49:49] <Xal> why not use AES?
L1028[19:50:35] <MGR> Because that isn't fun
L1029[19:50:41] <MGR> And people know it
L1030[19:51:39] <Xal> ??
L1031[19:51:45] <TYKUHN2> It's possible to obfustcate the location of the key but unless it is encrypted itself there is no real strength. It is ridiculously fast to comb through the output and (especially with multithreading) test each possible keystring within the text.
L1032[19:52:15] <MGR> Xal, I want my own encryption system
L1033[19:52:51] <Xal> but you aren't even doing any encryption!
L1034[19:54:00] <TYKUHN2> Remove the key and it might be somewhat strong
L1035[19:54:33] <TYKUHN2> That's all I have to add. I'm not a cryptographer, hardly an ametuer.
L1036[19:54:54] <Xal> you don't need to be a cryptographer, or even an amateur... anything to notice the flaws in it
L1037[19:54:59] <Xal> even if you removed the key from the output
L1038[19:55:12] <Xal> because you're multiplying to "encrypt"
L1039[19:55:29] <MGR> Xal, like I said, this is just the start
L1040[19:55:34] <TYKUHN2> I haven't looked at the code Xal
L1041[19:55:50] <TYKUHN2> I'd love to learn cryptography but it might be wise to finish my math classes first.
L1042[19:56:04] <Xal> he's multiplying each character of the input with the "key"
L1043[19:56:05] <TYKUHN2> Just a thought
L1044[19:56:40] <TYKUHN2> No way that can be particularly strong
L1045[19:56:51] <Xal> each key is from 1 to 9
L1046[19:57:02] <Xal> you could literally just factor each number in the output
L1047[19:57:07] <TYKUHN2> I love RSA though. Easy(ish) to understand (Finding D is still hard for me)
L1048[19:57:50] <TYKUHN2> Not well read on Euler's shit
L1049[19:58:22] <TYKUHN2> Someone gave me a hint to finding D and 90% of the time I try it I fail
L1050[19:59:57] <TYKUHN2> I hear quantum computers could break RSA though
L1051[20:00:03] <TYKUHN2> That would suck
L1052[20:01:11] <TYKUHN2> @MGR All for you trying to learn cryptography, some major hints though: Use HUGE numbers (probably prime) and use complex math
L1053[20:01:14] <MGR> @TYKUHN2 quantum computers can DEMOLISH RSA
L1054[20:01:25] <MGR> Also, yes
L1055[20:01:40] <TYKUHN2> If you figure something out I'd be glad to learn it
L1056[20:01:49] <MGR> Some big steps forward are planned for Bagel 1.4
L1057[20:02:28] <MGR> It goes GERT, TACEATS2-EP, Bagel 1.4, TACEATS2-EX, OpenCL, OC GPU Compute
L1058[20:02:41] <MGR> Then my programming queue is empty
L1059[20:02:57] <MGR> Probably more GERT and TACEATS
L1060[20:05:26] <TYKUHN2> My private project is pretty much deprecated but I'd atleast like to see it through. This is it's 3rd or 4th rewrite (only recently started using git)
L1061[20:11:19] <TYKUHN2> Speaking of which, I should stop the flow and start the project
L1062[20:12:31] <MGR> Tomorrow gotta open a bank account, then time to do more work on GERTi
L1063[20:12:48] <MGR> Neighbor discovery is being weird
L1064[20:13:33] <MGR> Xal, thank you for that information
L1065[20:13:36] <MGR> I will keep it in mind
L1066[20:15:12] <TYKUHN2> I suppose I ought to test my graphics driver
L1067[20:20:39] <CompanionCube> Quantum computers also make AES take a security hit
L1068[20:20:52] <CompanionCube> with them, AES-256 becomes as storng as AES-128
L1069[20:21:11] <MGR> CompanionCube, in a specific method, or just lots of processing power?
L1070[20:21:47] <TYKUHN2> The... I just confused myself
L1071[20:21:53] <CompanionCube> MGR: Grover's Algorithm
L1072[20:22:14] <MGR> CompanionCube, lol, you think I know cryptography?
L1073[20:22:20] <MGR> I obviously don't
L1074[20:22:22] <CompanionCube> i don't either
L1075[20:22:43] <MGR> What's Grover's AlgorithmM
L1076[20:22:44] <TYKUHN2> Shit ye not a line of code in my actual file: ```load(loadfile("/bin/shell.lua") or panic("54"), "SHELL", "t", safeGlobal)```
L1077[20:22:46] <MGR> ?*
L1078[20:22:54] <CompanionCube> MGR: use the wkipedia, luke!
L1079[20:23:02] <CompanionCube> 'Grover's algorithm is a quantum algorithm that finds with high probability the unique input to a black box function that produces a particular output value, using just O ( N ) {\displaystyle O({\sqrt {N}})} O({\sqrt {N}}) evaluations of the function, where N is the size of the function's domain. It was devised by Lov Grover in 1996.'
L1080[20:25:06] <MGR> G
L1081[20:25:08] <MGR> G
L1082[20:25:37] <CompanionCube> 'Unlike other quantum algorithms, which may provide exponential speedup over their classical counterparts, Grover's algorithm provides only a quadratic speedup. However, even quadratic speedup is considerable when N {\displaystyle N} N is large. Grover's algorithm could brute-force a 128-bit symmetric cryptographic key in roughly 264 iterations, or a 256-bit key in roughly 2128 iterations. As a
L1083[20:25:37] <CompanionCube> result, it is sometimes suggested[2] that symmetric key lengths be doubled to protect against future quantum attacks.'
L1084[20:25:52] <CompanionCube> (note: there are missing exponents in that sentence.)
L1085[20:25:55] <MGR> You just need bagel with 1 million bit keys
L1086[20:26:22] <CompanionCube> 264 = 2^64, 2128=2^128
L1087[20:26:28] <CompanionCube> both are very large numbers
L1088[20:26:37] <MGR> Performance will be garbage because no OC GPU compute right now, but it will be secureish
L1089[20:26:51] <MGR> Until someone reads the source code
L1090[20:27:04] <CompanionCube> so, for all of 10 seconds then?
L1091[20:27:13] <MGR> Yep!
L1092[20:27:50] <MGR> In some cases, all you need is 10 seconds though
L1093[20:29:31] <MGR> Good night
L1094[20:31:03] <gamax92> All this for a garbage encryption algorithm and exposing your server's gpu to everyone instead of using the data card's aes functions
L1095[20:34:26] <TYKUHN2> Annoyingly running my code just produces a black screen
L1096[20:37:55] <TYKUHN2> Update on that BIOS: It's unstable even in a single drive configuration
L1097[20:38:02] <TYKUHN2> Because FML
L1098[20:42:34] <TYKUHN2> Well
L1099[20:42:40] <TYKUHN2> Someone just tried to hack my facebook account
L1100[20:43:21] <TYKUHN2> Going to go lockdown a few more accounts
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L1102[20:48:45] <TYKUHN2> The Two-factored accounts I won't bother with
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L1105[20:50:19] <TYKUHN2> Sadly my normal password is leaked so shit I can't remember will get hacked
L1106[20:55:33] <TYKUHN2> Floor division? 5/4 == 1?
L1107[20:55:42] <TYKUHN2> Or 5//4 == 1
L1108[20:55:44] <TYKUHN2> %lua 5//4
L1109[20:55:44] <MichiBot> main:1: unexpected symbol near '5'
L1110[20:59:02] <TYKUHN2> Someone needs to compile a complete list of metamethods
L1111[20:59:17] <TYKUHN2> Everylist I find is different and incomplete
L1112[21:08:22] <TYKUHN2> I got my thinker going damnit.
L1113[21:08:25] <TYKUHN2> Now it won't stop
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L1115[21:27:33] <TYKUHN2> What kind of ECDSA does OC use?
L1116[21:27:53] <TYKUHN2> Suppose I could look
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L1118[21:51:55] <TYKUHN2> 2 hours of technical issues seems more than minor
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L1120[21:53:57] <Firingpan> umm what do i do if my remote terminal is stuck on a screen
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L1123[21:59:40] <ping> @TYKUHN2 theres really only 1 kind of ECDSA
L1124[21:59:49] <ping> are you looking for the elliptic curve parameters?
L1125[22:00:03] <TYKUHN2> Most examples I saw used SHA1. OC uses SHA256 IIRC
L1126[22:00:13] <TYKUHN2> I'll probably just implement RSA instead
L1127[22:00:25] <TYKUHN2> Seems like implementing ECDSA might be harder
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L1129[22:02:03] <Saphire> https://www.archlinux.org/news/phasing-out-i686-support/
L1130[22:02:05] <Saphire> WHOA
L1131[22:02:32] <Saphire> Okay, that's.. actually that doesn't really change anything because there are still lib32s
L1132[22:02:38] <ping> yeah no shit
L1133[22:02:42] <ping> ECDSA is hard to implement
L1134[22:03:05] <ping> with RSA you need a bignum, i made a pretty efficient one somewhere
L1135[22:03:20] <TYKUHN2> I made a quick`n`dirty broken bignum library as well
L1136[22:03:28] <TYKUHN2> I'm sure with some binary logic it's quite easy
L1137[22:05:05] <TYKUHN2> I suppose I could also just load up the occasional minecraft to do my signing for me but it might be more useful just to implement RSA
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L1142[22:14:50] <TYKUHN2> Apparently this is a thing
L1143[22:15:25] <TYKUHN2> Japanese native speakers are handicapped when learning L vs R
L1144[22:17:41] <Xilandro> Tykuhn, if you're looking for RSA, Computronics' advanced cipher has it
L1145[22:18:54] <TYKUHN2> I don't want to rely on an addon. And preferably not rely on anything but the code but I understand data card might be required
L1146[22:19:22] <Xilandro> Not the data card, no. It's a block from Computronics
L1147[22:19:34] <Xilandro> But yeah, needing an addon is rough since some packs don't always have them
L1148[22:19:40] <Xilandro> Especially with Computronics, since it's not available on Curse
L1149[22:25:58] <TYKUHN2> RSA is easy to do if you have sufficient big number support and know how to generate the keys (news flash I only know half of the generation)
L1150[22:30:54] <TYKUHN2> I like that title
L1151[22:31:17] <TYKUHN2> "We can make you talk: Interrogation Techniques"
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L1153[22:46:20] <TYKUHN2> SAS: Survival Secrets is actually interesting ear rape
L1154[22:48:53] <TYKUHN2> Though he is the most british british I can british
L1155[22:55:21] <TYKUHN2> I never mentioned why I like that title
L1156[22:55:33] <TYKUHN2> They CAN make you talk. They can't make you tell the truth
L1157[23:19:37] <Izaya> wait do people actually use curse by choice?
L1158[23:34:10] <TYKUHN2> No! My "We Can Make you Talk" crashed!
L1159[23:57:40] ⇦ Quits: Nachtara (~Nachiebre@173-22-110-5.client.mchsi.com) (Quit: Always save before encountering a shiny.)
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