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L2[00:26:28] <gamax92> TIL that java has
it's own version of UTF8
L3[00:27:33] <gamax92> it apparently encodes
NUL differently and characters above U+FFFF differently
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L5[00:27:57] <gamax92> need to check this
out with OC.
L6[00:29:39] <gamax92> something like
CESU-8
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L8[00:58:48] <gamax92> oh damn that is
exactly part of the problem
L9[00:59:47] <gamax92> I remember if you
tell unicode.char to give you nul you get the special nul sequence
instead
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L11[01:02:19] <gamax92> I wonder if LuaJ is
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L13[01:34:09] <Forecaster> Honk
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<Kodos>
Meep
L34[03:07:52] <Izaya> merp
L36[03:11:40] <Lymia> nyorn
L37[03:13:44]
<Kodos>
hyop
L39[03:14:03] <Izaya> Was there someone
here that worked at Apple?
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L46[03:52:44] <Magik6k> o/
L48[04:16:48] <Magik6k> I wonder how hard
it would be to implement OC architecture using KVM
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<20kdc>
Well, looks like the last reason I haven't sunset my Dropbox
account in favour of the system I built has now been removed.
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L58[05:42:56] <Forecaster> what?
L59[05:43:05]
<20kdc> All
my Public Folder links are going to go down anyway, might as well
speed up the process.
L60[05:43:17]
<20kdc>
Either that or this is a fake email.
L61[05:43:20] <Forecaster> ??
L62[05:43:51] <Forecaster> I've not
received any emails from dropbox
L64[05:44:38]
<20kdc> If
they're going to break all of my links, I might as well just shut
the account down now, since that's basically the only reason I was
holding onto it
L65[05:44:56]
<20kdc> to
prevent some broken links
L66[05:45:11] <Forecaster> that's change is
really old...
L67[05:45:26]
<20kdc>
"Dropbox Basic (free) users: Beginning March 15,
2016"
L68[05:45:31]
<20kdc> note
the 2016
L69[05:45:34]
<20kdc>
...wait
L70[05:45:35]
<20kdc>
what
L71[05:45:45]
<20kdc>
...dammit, I got confused about the year
L72[05:45:56]
<20kdc>
...or... what?
L73[05:46:12]
<20kdc>
Excuse me, I have to double-check some things
L74[05:46:27] <Forecaster> it was over half
a year ago...
L75[05:46:59] <Lizzy> the email said 2017
for me
L76[05:47:16]
<20kdc>
Lizzy: Same here
L77[05:47:34] <Forecaster> I recall seeing
this ages ago
L78[05:47:37]
<20kdc> I
can confirm that, as of right now, my Public Folder still
works
L79[05:47:53] <Forecaster> I also still
have a "public" folder
L80[05:47:55] <Lizzy> also that's only for
files that are in the public folder, if you created public links
for other files they should still work
L81[05:48:12] <Lizzy> Forecaster, yes,
you'll still have it. just the links to it will be
deactivated
L82[05:48:25]
<20kdc>
Lizzy: I just used the public folder. If they're going to make me
update the links anyway, then there is absolutely no point to *not*
switching away
L83[05:49:23] <Forecaster> I've never used
dropbox to permanently share files
L84[05:49:32] <Forecaster> I use my
webserver for that
L85[05:49:47]
<20kdc>
Forecaster: At the time I didn't have a webserver, and for a while
it became the path of least resistance
L86[05:49:55]
<20kdc> Of
course, now it isn't.
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L92[06:09:10] <Forecaster> correction: it
wont be soon
L93[06:09:11] <Forecaster> :P
L94[06:10:55]
<20kdc> the
earlier I switch, the less files there are to eventually be
moved
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L99[06:21:19] <DaMachinator> any of you do
web development?
L100[06:21:31] <DaMachinator> specifically
with JavaScript (not JQuery)
L101[06:23:24] <Forecaster> I do
L102[06:23:30] <DaMachinator> ok
L103[06:23:41] <DaMachinator> i'm making
an online test thingy
L104[06:23:50] <DaMachinator> I need to
load the question bank from a server
L105[06:24:06] <DaMachinator> how should I
go about doing this and in what format should I put the question
bank
L106[06:24:50] <Forecaster> I'd use jQuery
for that, doing post requests in javascript is possible without it,
but it's a pain to implement on your own
L107[06:25:12] <Forecaster> and I use json
to send data
L108[06:25:26] <DaMachinator> how do I get
the data
L109[06:25:43] <Forecaster> what do you
mean?
L110[06:25:53] <DaMachinator> it is not
immediately obvious to me
L111[06:26:02] <DaMachinator> how to ask
the webserver for the data
L112[06:26:06] <Forecaster> do you mean
how to make a post request?
L113[06:26:56] <Forecaster> in jquery you
just do $.post(url, data, callback)
L114[06:26:58] <DaMachinator> HTTP POST
sends data to a server.
L115[06:27:22] <DaMachinator> Is there an
"HTTP GET" or similar to ask a server for data?
L116[06:27:32] <Forecaster> a post request
doesn't have to carry data
L117[06:27:38] <Forecaster>
"data" can be empty
L118[06:27:41] <Forecaster> it's the same
thing
L119[06:27:55] <Forecaster> get requests
also send data, they just do it differently
L120[06:28:15] <Forecaster> just do
$.post(url, {}, callback)
L121[06:28:44] <DaMachinator> ok, so i can
answers->server
L122[06:28:56] <Forecaster> or $.post(url,
null, callback)
L123[06:29:05] <Forecaster> what?
L124[06:29:16] <DaMachinator> I still
don't know how to do "webpage asks server for question
bank"
L125[06:29:28] <DaMachinator> I have a
JSON file on the server with the question bank
L126[06:29:43] <DaMachinator> I have the
webpage loaded on someone's browser (in this case mine)
L127[06:30:04] <Izaya> 20kdc, I got the
same email
L128[06:30:05] <DaMachinator> how does the
webpage get the JSON file
L129[06:30:20] <Forecaster> do you have an
url directly to the file that you want to use?
L130[06:30:29] <Forecaster> a url*
L131[06:30:54] <DaMachinator> yes
L132[06:30:58] <Forecaster> okay
L133[06:31:05] <DaMachinator> (a file
path, since it isn't actually hosted anywhere yet)
L134[06:31:11] <Forecaster> oh
L135[06:31:38] <Forecaster> well, either
you need to host it so it's accessible, or you need to create an
end-point that outputs the contents of the file
L136[06:31:59] <DaMachinator> it is
accessible to webpages loaded on the same computer that the file is
on
L137[06:32:50] <DaMachinator> when the
webpage is finished
L138[06:32:57] <DaMachinator> i will host
it for public access
L139[06:33:43] <Forecaster> well, if the
file is accessible all you should need to do is
L140[06:34:03] <Forecaster>
$.post("path/to/file.json", null or {}, callback)
L141[06:34:17] <Forecaster> callback needs
to be a function
L142[06:34:36] <Forecaster> it will be
passed the return from the request as an argument
L143[06:35:02] <DaMachinator> ok
L144[06:35:22] <Forecaster> so you can do
post(url, {}, function(data) { console.log(data);})
L145[06:47:25] <DaMachinator> hmm
L146[06:48:41] <DaMachinator> XML is very
very similar to JSON in purpose and intended use
L147[06:50:20] <Izaya> I was about to say
that the difference is that XML sucks
L148[06:50:26] <Izaya> then I realised the
other option is JSON
L149[06:56:36] <DaMachinator> JSON seems
about 1000 million times easier for me to use, so i'll stick with
that
L150[07:01:31] <Lizzy> dammit Sangar y u
no tell me of new version?
L151[07:01:40] *
Lizzy goes to update the announcement
L152[07:02:05] <cloakable> Hmm. Any guides
on using JSON with Lua?
L153[07:02:31] <Forecaster> you just need
a parser for it
L154[07:02:52] <Forecaster> there are
libraries for that
L155[07:02:58] <cloakable> hmm
L156[07:13:08] <Lizzy> there, announcement
topic made and the bar at the top updated
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L159[07:46:09]
<20kdc> I'm
not entirely sure, but I think XML would be easier to parse than
JSON, simply because the escaping scheme *doesn't involve the
parser.* With JSON, unless I missed a memo, "\"" is
perfectly legal, and you have to expect it.
L160[07:46:14]
<20kdc> I'm
not entirely sure, but I think XML would be easier to parse than
JSON, simply because the escaping scheme *doesn't involve the
parser.* With JSON, unless I missed a memo, "\\"" is
perfectly legal, and you have to expect it.
L161[07:46:44]
<20kdc>
(Note for Corded users:
Doublequote-backslash-doublequote-doublequote.)
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L163[08:29:56] <Mettaton_Fab> oi.
L164[08:30:14] <Forecaster> Honk
L165[08:33:05] <Lizzy> beep
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L168[09:08:51] <SolraBizna> Izaya: why did
you want to talk to an Apple employee?
L169[09:09:49] <Izaya> SolraBizna: I want
to know whether you need 100GB of disk space, 8GB of RAM and a
64-bit processor to build a copy of iOS
L170[09:10:41] <Izaya> also I worked
out
L171[09:11:11] <Izaya> if I were to copy
1TB of data to external media and ship it to europe it'd get there
before the upload of the same data did
L172[09:13:11] <SolraBizna> unfortunately
that is not something I could help you with, nor most Apple
employees
L173[09:13:23] <SolraBizna> they have a
cult-like culture of secrecy there
L174[09:13:40] <SolraBizna> (I am not an
Apple employee, but my father has been as long as I've been
alive)
L175[09:14:43] <Izaya> oh fun
L176[09:15:05] <Izaya> (those numbers are
the requirements for building a copy of Android from source)
L177[09:15:10] <Izaya> does Apple even use
stuff like CI?
L178[09:15:14] <Izaya> izaya@cmbuild:~$ du
android -h --summarize
L179[09:15:15] <Izaya> 9.0G android
L180[09:15:17] <Izaya> it's still
growing
L181[09:16:11] <SolraBizna> I'll ask
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L183[09:19:38] <Izaya> from what I've
heard
L184[09:19:47] <Izaya> the whole apple
social structure is all sorts of fucked
L185[09:19:56] <Izaya> it's not like, all
open like some places are
L186[09:20:00] <Izaya> and it's not
organized in a tree
L187[09:20:05] <Izaya> you have like
L188[09:20:12] <Izaya> stuff competing
internally
L189[09:20:20] <Izaya> in complete
secrecy
L190[09:20:22] <SolraBizna> that's not as
bad as it used to be but it's there
L191[09:21:17]
<20kdc>
Izaya: Isn't that what some sources said about Microsoft?
L192[09:21:22]
<20kdc>
...let me just do the lookups...
L193[09:21:31] <Izaya> Microsoft seems
more open internally
L194[09:21:35] <Izaya> but the difference
there
L195[09:21:37] <SolraBizna> in the Pink
vs. Blue days, the infighting and competition between the various
Blue projects was horrific
L196[09:21:47] <Izaya> is that nobody
knows what's going on equally
L197[09:22:54] <Izaya> We just hit 10GB of
android source
L198[09:24:33] <Izaya> 11
L199[09:31:29] <vifino> WE NEED TO GO
DEEPER
L200[09:31:52] <Izaya> Apparently the
source is 20GB
L201[09:32:00] <Izaya> and after first
build it's 100
L202[09:32:42] <Lizzy> vifino, that's what
she said
L203[09:32:45] *
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L204[09:33:30] <Izaya> Lizzy: 'she'
being?
L205[09:33:39] <Izaya> 12GB
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L207[09:37:49] <Lizzy> Izaya, it's a
mystery
L208[09:41:44] <Forecaster> a mysterious
mystery
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instead
L211[09:47:10] <Izaya> 13GB
L212[09:49:12] <gamax92> :(
L213[09:49:30] <Izaya> 15GB
L214[09:50:04] <gamax92> Lizzy: pounce is
not bad! vifino is a cat too
L215[09:51:25] *
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L218[09:53:18] <Izaya> 17GB
L219[09:58:31] <gamax92> Izaya: what are
you working on?
L220[09:58:48] <SolraBizna> compiling
Android from source
L221[09:58:58] <Izaya> gamax92: I'm making
a custom build of Cyanogenmod 13 with the stuff LXC needs
L222[09:58:59] <gamax92> ahh
L223[09:59:19] <Izaya> Because obviously I
need containers on my phone
L224[09:59:23] <gamax92> I tried to do
that once
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L226[09:59:35] <gamax92> gave up don't
have enough space
L227[09:59:55] <vifino> Izaya: Plasma
mobile!!!
L228[09:59:58] <Izaya> I have 16GB
internal and 64GB on the SD card so it should be enough
L229[10:00:14] <Izaya> vifino: can I stick
that on top of Cyanogenmod?
L230[10:00:28] <Izaya> Because last I
checked there's no plain Plasma mobile build for the Moto G3
L231[10:00:37] <vifino> thats exactly what
it is made to be
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L233[10:00:53] <vifino> basically headless
cm13 + lxc
L234[10:01:00] <vifino> lemme find you the
link
L235[10:01:53] <vifino> -13
L237[10:03:11] <vifino> when i revamp my
infrastructure i'll get my 400mbit/s and will download CM too, so i
can build that shit.
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L239[10:03:47] <Izaya> vifino: does that
need Android 5.1.1 or will it work on 6?
L240[10:04:30] <vifino> doesnt matter i
think
L241[10:04:44] <vifino> they dont really
use much of android, basically just the kernel
L242[10:05:02] <vifino> i think they even
support 14.1
L243[10:05:24] <Izaya> ooo
L244[10:05:41] <Izaya> I might put Plasma
Mobile on my phone then :3
L245[10:05:49] <vifino> be warned that its
WIP and not much use right now
L246[10:06:21] *
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L247[10:08:58] <Izaya> vifino:
>ubuntu
L248[10:09:00] <Izaya> blergh
L249[10:09:06] <gamax92> plasma looks cool
but no build for my device
L250[10:09:22] <gamax92> can't build it,
no room
L251[10:09:30] <vifino> Izaya: oh
please.
L252[10:09:38] <Izaya> mostly
sarcastic
L253[10:09:40] <Izaya> mostly
L254[10:10:03] <gamax92> will just stick
with cm
L255[10:10:14] <vifino> what did you want
it to be? arch?
L256[10:10:38] <vifino> nobody builds
stuff on arch because it is rolling release. it can break.
L257[10:10:53] <Izaya> debian is
sane
L258[10:10:54] <Mettaton_Fab> apparently
my amp likes stable 12V supply voltage
L259[10:11:08] <vifino> i prefer ubuntu to
debian, more up to date packages.
L260[10:11:10] <Mettaton_Fab> just because
it runs perfectly in this config.
L261[10:11:35] <SolraBizna> I use Debian
Testeing; I had Mesa 13 within a week of its release
L262[10:11:54] <SolraBizna>
s/Testeing/Testing/
L263[10:11:54] <MichiBot>
<SolraBizna> I use Debian Testing; I had Mesa 13 within a
week of its release
L264[10:12:03] <SolraBizna> awful Thinkpad
keyboard + sun on screen = many typoes
L265[10:12:17] <Izaya> ... fuck.
L266[10:12:19] <Izaya> okay so
L267[10:12:34] <Izaya> I need to do the
extract-files.sh
L268[10:13:01] <Izaya> here's the
problem
L269[10:13:07] <Izaya> the box I'm
building on is 300km away
L270[10:13:11] <Izaya> and my phone is
next to me
L271[10:13:18] <SolraBizna> build on your
phone
L272[10:13:25] <SolraBizna> wow, I managed
to keep a straight face
L273[10:15:27] <Izaya> okay so
L274[10:15:35] <Izaya> I could forward
adb-over-network
L275[10:15:44] <Izaya> yeah that's the
sanest
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L279[10:31:19] <Izaya> what the fuck
L280[10:31:21] <Izaya> it works
L281[10:31:27] <Izaya> I'm using adb
forwarded over ssh
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L286[10:32:55] <gamax92> Well I'm going to
go look at that Modified UTF-8 problem
L287[10:33:08] <SolraBizna> how is
modified UTF-8 causing you a problem?
L288[10:33:28] <gamax92> Fucking CC is
crashing my game, bye.
L289[10:33:39] <SolraBizna> have you
considered a condom?
L290[10:33:45] <Lizzy> found your problem,
you're using CC
L291[10:34:29] <gamax92> SolraBizna: Well
Modified UTF-8 isn't UTF-8
L292[10:34:58] <SolraBizna> yes, but which
particular problem of the problems that can cause is the problem
you're having?
L293[10:35:23] <gamax92> U+0 and U+FFFF
and above is encoded differently
L294[10:35:38] <gamax92> and ... yay my
world is corrupted
L295[10:36:25] <SolraBizna> yes, but my
question is, how is the "alternate" encoding of astral
plane characters and NUL causing a problem?
L296[10:37:28] <gamax92> SolraBizna:
Please pretend that I have not used the world problem before as
you're taking it the wrong way.
L297[10:37:30] <gamax92> thank you.
L298[10:37:50] <SolraBizna> I'm trying to
understand what you are trying to do, to see if I can help
you.
L299[10:38:24] <gamax92> SolraBizna: Just
get an understanding of how it affects OC
L300[10:38:37] <gamax92> That's all, it's
research.
L301[10:39:16] <SolraBizna> I am
interested in learning more about how OC handles String interchange
with Lua, so let me know what you find out.
L302[10:39:28] <SolraBizna> (I do know
that when a byte[] gets sent to Lua, that byte[] gets put into a
Lua string, no conversion or validation)
L303[10:40:01] <gamax92> I'm probably
guessing that it's JNI related since JNI was mentioned in relation
to the Modified UTF-8
L304[10:40:20] <SolraBizna> the Astral
Plane stuff is because Java *really* counted on Unicode characters
being 16 bits
L305[10:40:34] <SolraBizna> and the wise
gurus of the Sun decided that slightly retooling Java wasn't worth
it
L306[10:40:49] <gamax92> And Java carries
around a bunch of legacy crap
L307[10:41:09] <SolraBizna> JNI stuff is
the likeliest explanation for the "alternate" NUL
L308[10:41:26] <SolraBizna> rather... JNI
would certainly be aided by that aspect of Modified UTF-8
L309[10:42:59] <Izaya> I am now copying
files over adb on a box 300km away
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L311[10:43:47] <gamax92> oh right, forge
can just delete erroring tile entities
L312[10:44:20] <SolraBizna> ...I wish I
had known about that a year ago
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L315[10:47:29] <gamax92> SolraBizna: nope
my world is just gone, not that it's too big of a problem I have an
nbteditor
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L317[10:48:13] <gamax92> oh jeez, ... the
computer block despite not being a computer still apparently had an
inventory
L318[10:48:58] <SolraBizna> I just
realized, I can't post OETF #2 until your results are in
L319[10:49:04] <gamax92> my results?
L320[10:49:14] <SolraBizna> learning how
modified UTF-8 and OC are related
L321[10:49:19] <SolraBizna> s/are
related/relate to each other/
L322[10:49:19] <MichiBot>
<SolraBizna> learning how modified UTF-8 and OC relate to
each other
L323[10:50:00] <gamax92> SolraBizna: just
for reference what is #2 supposed to be?
L324[10:50:08] <SolraBizna> the Universal
Interchange Format
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L327[10:50:18] <SolraBizna> for generic
component IO and antisocial serialization
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L330[10:54:34] <Mettaton_Fab> my amp now
runs better!
L331[11:02:08] <SolraBizna> now get
working on your volt
L332[11:12:02] <Mettaton_Fab> i mean my
amplifier, but that joke isstill good.
L333[11:15:39] <vifino> SolraBizna: But he
did already if he improved the power that one amp gets him.
L334[11:16:45] <Mettaton_Fab> also, never
lick on a charged capacitor.
L335[11:17:20] <Inari> Mettaton_Fab: How
does it taste?
L336[11:17:20] <SolraBizna> all true
L337[11:18:18] <Mettaton_Fab> it tastes
like getting stung in the tongue.
L338[11:18:37] <Inari> Interesting
L339[11:18:41] <Inari> metal never had
that effect on me
L340[11:18:41] <SolraBizna> continuously,
if the capacitor is still powered
L341[11:18:43] <Inari> Maybe you're
allergic
L342[11:19:24] <Mettaton_Fab> especiall if
it has been charged before.
L343[11:19:39] <Mettaton_Fab> my amp
charges it to roughly 12VDC
L344[11:19:54] <SolraBizna> yeowch
L345[11:20:27] <SolraBizna> most of my
electric shock experience is from accidentally shorting house AC
across my finger
L347[11:22:11] <MichiBot>
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L348[11:23:24] <Izaya> vifino: you've
build CM before
L349[11:23:26] <Izaya> help
L350[11:23:41] <Izaya> lemme get a
lot
L351[11:23:43] <Izaya> log
L352[11:23:55] *
Inari hands Izaya a log soaked in wood
L353[11:24:32] *
Mettaton_Fab hands Inari a charged 200V Capacitor
L354[11:25:15] <SolraBizna> how many
F?
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L358[11:31:11] <vifino> Izaya: what did
you run?
L359[11:31:25] <Izaya> brunch osprey
L360[11:32:23] <vifino> Is that a Moto G?
I don't remember,
L361[11:32:28] <vifino> never had
one.
L362[11:32:46] <SolraBizna> okay, that's
it, if I'm going to be in #oc I *need* to write a plugin that fixes
the same-nicklen-same-hat problem
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L365[11:33:26] <vifino> Umm excuse me,
pretty sure *you* don't have a red redhat hat.
L366[11:33:28] <vifino> Watch it.
L367[11:33:44] *
SolraBizna intently watches the red redhat hat
L368[11:34:11] <vifino> It's actually a
fedora but red redhat hat sounds better.
L369[11:34:16] <Izaya> yeah
L370[11:34:21] <Izaya> Moto G3 2015
L371[11:34:29] <vifino> Though the
redhat<->fedora reference is neato
L372[11:35:09] <vifino> Izaya: are you on
a specific version or git?
L373[11:35:19] <vifino> nevermind.
L374[11:35:20] <Izaya> uh, latest CM13 I
think
L375[11:35:33] <vifino> i don't know how
to help you. sorry.
L377[11:36:18] <vifino> you are a terrible
person.
L378[11:36:59] <Izaya> it works, doesn't
it?
L379[11:37:06] <vifino> at least over a
vpn or ssh, right?
L380[11:37:17] <Izaya> over ssh
L381[11:37:27] <Izaya> I'm not
stupid
L382[11:37:30] <Izaya> just crazy
L383[11:37:47] <vifino> i take it back.
you are a crazy but not terrible or stupid person.
L384[11:37:52] <SolraBizna> lol
L385[11:38:09] <vifino> scp and flashing
then would be faster.
L386[11:38:28] <Izaya> [izaya@sks-s10e-1
~]$ ssh -R *:5555:192.168.0.102:5555 cmbuild
L387[11:38:39] <vifino> are you using
compression?
L388[11:38:45] <Izaya> no
L389[11:38:49] <vifino> ssh -C pls
L390[11:38:56] <Izaya> mostly binary files
by the look though so
L391[11:39:22] <Izaya> it would help but
I'm not abot to restart this copying
L392[11:44:09] <Mettaton_Fab> Ooh, a
Sangar!
L393[11:44:34] <SolraBizna> binary files
are often compressible
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L401[12:26:38] <Forecaster> does the
second one count, I forget it's name
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L404[12:29:25] <Kodos> Omni, I think
L405[12:29:28] <Kodos> Or Ouya
L406[12:29:46] <Kodos> Ouya, yeah. Omni's
the walking thingy
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L408[12:32:39] <Forecaster> yeah
L409[12:33:50] <Sangar> o/
L410[12:34:03] <Forecaster> \o
L411[12:34:40] <Sangar> %quote #127
L412[12:34:40] <MichiBot> Quote #127:
<Sangar> I am a pretty lore princess
L413[12:34:46] <Sangar> mkay
L414[12:34:54] <Kodos> Lol
L415[12:35:12] <CompanionCube> anyone here
in south carolina?
L416[12:35:31] <SolraBizna> Sangar: people
want me to ask you to look at my pull request
L417[12:36:06] <Sangar> that's the wall of
text one isn't it? :P
L418[12:37:05] <SolraBizna> given how many
people I talked to about it saw "synchronous" and went
Super Saiyan, I wanted to make it clear that I was aware of the
consequences of the PR
L419[12:37:31] *
Sangar starts firing orbital cannons
L420[12:38:24] <Sangar> i'll read through
it when i can. if i get bored at work (unlikely) this week,
otherwise over the holidays at the latest!
L421[12:38:30] <SolraBizna> thanks
L422[12:38:59] <gamax92> SolraBizna:
EEPROM should be binary safe from the Modified UTF-8 issue
L423[12:39:03] <Kodos> Sangar, rack
mounted adapters/upgrade containers when =D
L424[12:39:06] <SolraBizna> I expected as
much
L425[12:39:08] <SolraBizna> file I/O is
too
L426[12:39:10] <gamax92> the Filesystem
label however, is not
L427[12:39:18] <SolraBizna> what about
filenames?
L428[12:39:50] <Sangar> modified utf8
issue?
L429[12:40:13] <SolraBizna> Java's UTF-8
isn't regular UTF-8
L430[12:40:28] <Sangar> oh?
L431[12:41:04] <SolraBizna> it encodes NUL
with an invalid (but meaningful) UTF-8 sequence, and it encodes
non-Astral Plane characters as the invalid UTF-8 encodings of the
surrogate pairs that encode for that character in UTF-16
L432[12:41:20] <Kodos> Or, even the rack
mounted raids you said "I suppose, why not." to back in
summer of 2015 =D
L433[12:41:59] <Sangar> Kodos, whenever
someone implements them :P
L434[12:42:10] <gamax92> SolraBizna: I'm
also finding out that LuaJ has issues with above U+FFFF
L435[12:42:18] <gamax92> but corrupts it
differently then LuaC is
L436[12:42:21] <SolraBizna> not
surprising, but also not good
L437[12:42:35] <Sangar> SolraBizna, huh,
interesting. i don't suppose that's a bug but intentional for some
reason?
L438[12:42:58] <gamax92> Sangar: iirc it's
JNI related, Java uses this Modified UTF-8 with JNI things
L439[12:43:42] <SolraBizna> the modified
NUL is to make it easier to handle strings with embedded NULs on
the native side of JNI
L440[12:43:57] <SolraBizna> the astral
plane encodings are because Java
to this day acts like
Unicode characters are 16 bits
L441[12:44:15] <Sangar> interesting
L442[12:44:17] <Sangar> til
L443[12:44:45] <gamax92> SolraBizna: What
filesystem to test on, tmpfs or hdd since they might have different
behaviour?
L444[12:44:47] <Inari> Its sangar!
L445[12:44:53] <SolraBizna> both
L446[12:44:57] <gamax92> well then.
L447[12:45:24] <SolraBizna> I *know*
read/write use byte[] because the OC-ARM bootloader wouldn't work
otherwise
L448[12:45:34] <SolraBizna> anything else,
no bets
L449[12:47:00] <gamax92> oh, Sangar
filters the characters you can use, so it's just refusing to open
the file
L450[12:47:25] <SolraBizna> astral plane
or embedded NUL?
L451[12:49:11] <gamax92> it refuses to
make a file with NUL, embedded NUL, 4-byte sequences, and garbage
data are all apparently being converted to surrogate pairs (encoded
as UTF-8)
L452[12:49:24] <gamax92> s/with NUL,/with
NUL./
L453[12:49:24] <MichiBot> <gamax92>
it refuses to make a file with NUL. embedded NUL, 4-byte sequences,
and garbage data are all apparently being converted to surrogate
pairs (encoded as UTF-8)
L454[12:49:46] <SolraBizna> it's
complete!
L455[12:50:23] <SolraBizna> I have solved
the same-nicklen-same-hat problem once and for all
L456[12:50:33] <gamax92> It did actually
write the proper UTF-8 character on the host filesystem
though
L457[12:50:41] <gamax92> but it shows up
to Lua as surrogate pairs
L458[12:50:53] <SolraBizna> what locale
are you running Minecraft under?
L459[12:51:15] <gamax92> I dunno,
en_US.UTF8 probably
L460[12:51:25] <SolraBizna> Java might be
translating from Modified UTF-8 to the local charset
L461[12:53:17] <gamax92> I don't use
UTF-16 as my local charset :P
L462[12:53:49] <gamax92> or CESU-8
L463[12:55:22] <SolraBizna> what I
actually meant to say was that Java might be using regular UTF-8 at
the OS end, and modified UTF-8 when asked to translate it
internally
L464[12:55:52] <Temia> DESU-8
L465[12:55:53] <SolraBizna> and if you
had, say, en_US.isu8859-1 as your locale, it would handle things
worse
L466[12:55:56] <SolraBizna>
s/isu/iso/
L467[12:55:56] <MichiBot>
<SolraBizna> and if you had, say, en_US.iso8859-1 as your
locale, it would handle things worse
L468[12:56:23] <SolraBizna> oh jeez, there
are between 2^3 and 2^4 people with the same nicklen as Temia
L469[12:56:36] <SolraBizna> I need more
false hats
L470[12:57:16] <gamax92> LuaJ is also
having issues displaying Unicode
L471[12:57:16] <SolraBizna> Temia: speak
again
L472[12:57:23] <gamax92> please+
L473[12:57:41] <SolraBizna> pretty please
with a cherry on top
L474[12:58:14] *
Temia moos 'o'
L475[12:58:31] <Temia> I don't need a hat!
I already have cute horns!
L476[12:58:52] *
Inari polishes Temia's horns
L477[12:58:57] <SolraBizna>
NOOOOOOOOOO
L478[12:59:03] <SolraBizna> I did not
anticipate this
L479[12:59:05] *
Temia mu 'u'
L480[12:59:06] <Inari> Quite horny again
today, eh?
L481[12:59:12] <SolraBizna>
"\:Temia", ":\Inari"
L482[12:59:15] *
Temia ... headbutts Inari
L483[12:59:18] <Inari> D:
L484[12:59:20] <SolraBizna> whyyyyyy
L485[12:59:29] <Inari> SolraBizna:
What?
L486[12:59:42] <SolraBizna> Your false
hats are nearly impossible to tell apart; one is "\:",
one is ":\"
L487[12:59:50] *
CompanionCube gives SolraBizna true hats
L488[12:59:59] <Inari> I hate no idea what
you're talking about
L489[13:00:13] <gamax92> Inari: and you
have it?
L490[13:00:14] <SolraBizna> I made a
script that adds extra characters to the beginning of peoples'
names if I am otherwise in danger of mixing them up
L491[13:00:25] <Inari> gamax92: I have
what :|
L492[13:00:37] <Inari> SolraBizna: My
client uses colours :P
L493[13:01:12] <SolraBizna> okay, now
there are seven false hats to choose from, so it should be less
likely to need more than one now
L494[13:01:16] <Temia> Solution: Add an
override and set my hat to 'w'
L495[13:01:20] <Temia> (with quotes)
L496[13:01:20] <SolraBizna> and they are
*very* different from each other
L497[13:01:28] <vifino> Temiaw
L498[13:01:31] <Temia> no.
L499[13:01:34] <Temia> 'w'Temia.
L500[13:01:41] <SolraBizna> you know
what
L501[13:01:43] <SolraBizna> sure
L502[13:01:44] <gamax92> yes
L503[13:01:59] <Inari> Temi-aw
L504[13:02:08] <gamax92> 'ω'
L505[13:02:09] *
Temia mu?
L506[13:02:12] <vifino> I got two ftdi
breakouts and a hot air gun delivered to me today. :3
L507[13:02:19] <SolraBizna> it's loaded
now
L508[13:02:20] *
Temia squee and hugs Gamax. <3
L509[13:02:24] <SolraBizna> 12:02 *
'w'Temia squee and hugs Gamax. <3
L510[13:02:38] <Inari> I'd comment
L511[13:02:40] <Inari> but I'll
refrain
L512[13:02:48] *
Inari stil lhas an headache
L513[13:03:26] <gamax92> oh right I can
test eeprom labels
L514[13:04:03] <SolraBizna> I wonder if OC
should have a filename escaping mechanism
L515[13:04:17] <SolraBizna> a *ton* of
characters are unsafe on Windows
L516[13:04:37] <gamax92> eeprom label has
same behaviour as filesystem label
L517[13:05:07] *
vifino labels gamax92
L518[13:05:19] <gamax92> SolraBizna: hey
you know what's great, technically setLabel(getLabel()) shouldn't
do anything right?
L519[13:05:24] <Temia> Or microsoft should
just fix their shit so it's closer to matching UNIX's capabilities
:v
L520[13:05:28] <SolraBizna> ...I'm not
gonna like this, am I?
L521[13:05:38] <vifino> "do not
misplace, irreplaceable"
L522[13:05:49]
<20kdc> this
cannot possibly go wrong
L523[13:05:52] <gamax92> except that while
LuaC will convert the custom NUL to some surrogate pair, it also
writes NUL as the custom NUL
L524[13:06:11] <gamax92> LuaJ writes NUL
as NUL though
L525[13:06:27] *
SolraBizna headdesks
L526[13:07:00] <SolraBizna> it sounds like
just about every possible behavior exists somewhere
L527[13:08:09] <gamax92> it's probably
very possible to fix though
L528[13:08:20]
<20kdc>
That... But they can't UTF-8 encode NUL. That's against the
rules.
L529[13:08:36]
<20kdc> ...I
think.
L530[13:08:50] <gamax92> @20kdc in
Modified UTF-8 that Java uses it's legal and real NUL is not
legal
L531[13:08:57] <SolraBizna> ^
L532[13:09:12] <SolraBizna> Phew, when you
ask Java specifically to encode as "UTF-8" it does the
right thing
L533[13:09:19] <SolraBizna> OC-ARM does
that everywhere it needs to read/write Strings
L534[13:09:25]
<20kdc>
gamax92: Good to know. I'll keep a note. "Avoid Java and C#,
because FFS, who decided 16-bit chars is a good thing?"
L535[13:09:33] <SolraBizna> the Unicode
committee
L536[13:09:43] <gamax92> SolraBizna:
Should be fixable though, you can obviously get a correct byte
array from a string, and Lua's C api has lua_pushlstring which
takes a length
L537[13:09:45] <SolraBizna> back when they
weren't a committee yet and actually believed 64Kichars was
enough
L538[13:10:07] <SolraBizna> whereas today
we know 64Kichars isn't even enough for
just
Chinese...
L539[13:10:26]
<20kdc>
SolraBizna: I suppose they were also drunk, too, since otherwise
UTF-16 wouldn't *exist*...
L540[13:10:50] <SolraBizna> gamax92:
everywhere a String goes in and out of Lua, it ought to be
explicitly converted
L541[13:10:59] <SolraBizna> both LuaJ and
LuaC would be able to handle that, right?
L542[13:11:04] <SolraBizna> and there
can't be that many points of interchange
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L544[13:11:59] <gamax92> hey Sangar?
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L546[13:12:11]
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L547[13:12:16] <gamax92> oh it's
Vexatos
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L549[13:14:41] <gamax92> SolraBizna: I
think I'm going to look at the gpu methods and maybe modem stuff
and then I'll be done
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L551[13:16:12] <gamax92> also technically
OC's text mode io can corrupt binary data, since the unicode api is
screwy with bad data
L552[13:18:27] <Vexatos> hi
L553[13:18:40] <SolraBizna> binary
corruption with text mode is par for the course
L554[13:19:03] <SolraBizna> I *really*
hope modems send stuff "over the wire" as byte[] and not
as String
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L557[13:25:27] <gamax92> SolraBizna:
modems are binary safe
L558[13:25:49] <Inari> payonel: Thats a
good cat, getting rid of the annoying child :P
L559[13:25:57] <SolraBizna> phew
L560[13:25:58] <payonel> he's had
enough
L561[13:26:05] *
Inari hates children
L562[13:26:12] <SolraBizna> my dog has
been known to do that to peoples' car doors
L563[13:26:13] <payonel> >.<
L564[13:26:19] <Inari> xD
L565[13:26:30] <Inari> payonel: ?
L566[13:27:23] <payonel> brutal honesty
reaction :)
L567[13:28:57] <Skye> Inari, how were you
as a child?
L568[13:29:42] <SolraBizna> (for
reference, Inari's current false hat is "♪♪")
L569[13:30:15] <Skye> ??????
L570[13:30:40] <SolraBizna> summary:
script I made so I'd stop mixing people up who have the same hat
and nick length, adds hats to them until I can tell them
apart
L571[13:30:40] <Inari> Skye: ?
L572[13:30:57] <Inari> SolraBizna:
But
L573[13:31:03] <Inari> SolraBizna: That
doubles the amount of lines
L574[13:31:10] <Temia> If your client
could support emoji (doubtful) I'd suggest my false hat instead be
a cow
L575[13:31:29] <Inari> display_char_set(2,
6, DEG); // best coding
L576[13:31:30] <Skye> Inari, if you hate
children, what did you think of children when you were a
child?
L577[13:31:43] <Inari> Skye: Dunno?
:P
L578[13:32:18] <Skye> do you remember
being a child?
L579[13:32:54] <SolraBizna> my client
supports emoji
L580[13:32:57] <SolraBizna> my terminal
emulator does not
L581[13:33:07] <SolraBizna> given its age
I'm surprised at how well it supports Unicode at all
L583[13:34:00] <Vexatos> mmmmhm
L585[13:34:05] <Vexatos> Mint 18.1 has the
fanciest screensaver
L586[13:35:19] <SolraBizna> gamax92:
jeez
L587[13:35:54] <Kodos> Anyone play
Factorio with mods? I got a stupid question
L588[13:37:34] <Forecaster>
sometimes
L589[13:37:42] <Kodos> How do you get
fluid INTO and Out of a rail tanker
L590[13:37:55] <Forecaster> depends on the
mod
L591[13:37:59] <Kodos> Rail Tanker
L592[13:38:11] <Forecaster> maybe a pump
next to the track?
L593[13:38:29] <Kodos> That did it,
thanks
L594[13:40:29] <Inari> Forecaster Job AI -
Done (Needs Balancing & Testing)""
L595[13:42:08] <Forecaster> ?
L596[13:43:25] <gamax92> oh
L597[13:43:34] <gamax92> SolraBizna: jnlua
apparently doesn't expose pushlstring
L598[13:45:15] <gamax92> ahh I see, it
wraps it as pushbytearray
L599[13:54:31] <Inari> Forecaster:
Universim :P
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L601[13:54:34] <Inari> (a game)
L602[13:54:56] <Hathadar> How may I charge
my robot?
L603[13:55:24] <Forecaster> put it next to
a charger
L604[13:55:32] <Hathadar> no code
necessary?
L605[13:55:36] <SolraBizna> correct
L606[13:55:39] <Hathadar> thx
L607[13:55:49] <Forecaster> the charger
needs a redstone signal
L608[13:56:00] <SolraBizna> or to be
rightclicked with a rench
L609[13:56:05] <SolraBizna>
s/rench/wrench/
L610[13:56:05] <MichiBot>
<SolraBizna> or to be rightclicked with a wrench
L611[13:56:32] <Forecaster> or
scrench
L612[13:56:40] <SolraBizna> (discovered
that one by accident while trying to rotate a charger)
L613[13:56:47] <Forecaster> neat, I didn't
know that
L614[13:57:10] <Forecaster> I knew that
the charger doesn't care about it's rotation
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L618[14:10:34] <MichiBot>
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L619[14:11:54] <Lizzy> hexchat why can't
you maintain an ignore list?
L620[14:12:12] <Forecaster> it's ignoring
the ignore list?
L621[14:12:26] <Lizzy> no i have a feeling
it's just not saving it
L622[14:14:33] <Mettaton_Fab> a program
ignoring the ignore list would be something new.
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L627[14:30:08] <Kodos> I have a nice
workaround for the ignore list issue, but apparently it's an 'abuse
of power'
L628[14:31:05] <g> ignore list
issue?
L629[14:31:13] <payonel> my ups package
has been delayed since last wednesday. it's making me very
grumpy
L630[14:31:23] <payonel> (i.e. expected it
last wednesday)
L631[14:31:50] <Forecaster> is it a
shipment of glitter?
L633[14:33:09] <Forecaster> ah
L634[14:33:15] <Forecaster> at least it's
shiny
L635[14:33:21] <Mettaton_Fab> thats
something awesome
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L637[14:33:27] <Skye> payonel, how do you
have that amount of money?
L638[14:33:28] <payonel> it is. it's also
the last component to finish my new build
L639[14:33:44] <payonel> which is
otherwise fully assembled, and i'm dieing to use it
L640[14:33:51] <payonel> Skye: well i dont
anymore :) haha
L641[14:33:53] <Forecaster> dying*
L642[14:34:02] <payonel> Forecaster:
thanks
L643[14:34:04] <payonel> dying
L644[14:34:41] <Forecaster> werds
L645[14:36:38] <gamax92> how do into
words
L646[14:36:51] <SolraBizna> Markov
letters
L647[14:37:00] <Forecaster> words sentence
into
L648[14:37:32] <gamax92> ah, grate!
L649[14:38:04] <Forecaster>
"instructions unclear, summoned abomination"
L650[14:38:40] <Kodos> REminds me of that
one thing from Maxwolf's Mad Science mod
L652[14:38:50] <MichiBot>
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L653[14:39:05] <SolraBizna> I have been
trying to link that for four minutes. That's how hard it is to use
the Internet on this computer.
L654[14:40:35] <SolraBizna> (Fun fact:
That was my favorite video on the entire Internet until someone in
here linked the FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER video.)
L655[14:43:00] <Achai> whats the maximum
amount of ram an OC computer can have?
L656[14:43:10] <gamax92> there's a limit
in the config
L657[14:43:34] <Achai> gamax92: but what
about limits to how much you can fit in any computer
L658[14:43:42] <gamax92> default is
67108864 (64*1024*1024)
L659[14:43:45] <Forecaster> depends on the
case
L660[14:43:57] <gamax92> Achai: again,
maximum overall limit is that
L661[14:44:16] <Achai> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L662[14:44:22] <Forecaster> ...
L663[14:44:38] <gamax92> Achai: if you
make a memory item that can put in more than that, it'll get
clamped down to that
L664[14:44:58] <Achai> hmm
L665[14:45:14] <Achai> that would probably
complicate things with OpenARMs
L666[14:45:22] <Achai> or at least the OS
i'm trying to write
L667[14:45:31] <Forecaster> why?
L668[14:45:31] <gamax92> oh you can ignore
it, the Lua arch is what verifies it iirc
L669[14:45:38] <gamax92> so, don't have
your arch verify it
L670[14:49:10] <Achai> the problem isn't
really ignoring it
L671[14:49:25] <Achai> its whether I write
this OS to handle large amounts of memory
L672[14:49:56] <payonel> what limit would
you like to have?
L673[14:51:03] <Achai> no limits, if
possible, but I'd probably limit mapped process memory to 256mb (if
the built in limits are 64mb)
L674[14:51:26] <SolraBizna> OC-ARM uses
the exact byte values with no limiting
L675[14:51:36] <Achai> just in case
someone fiddles with the config then complains that they can't run
something under the OS
L676[14:51:43] <SolraBizna> it even has
special handling for 1-2GB
L677[14:55:31] *
Michiyo__ pokes Achai
L678[14:55:34] <Michiyo__> ...
L679[14:55:40] *
Michiyo__ slaps the _'s off her name
L680[14:55:42] ***
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L681[14:55:59] ***
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L682[14:56:07] <Forecaster> the _'s cry
while running away
L683[14:56:15] <Achai> Hey Michiyo
L684[14:56:27] <Achai> Internets
back
L685[14:56:31] <Michiyo> \o/
L686[14:57:11] <Achai> I'll fiddle with
the display after I finish fiddling with OpenARMs
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L688[15:01:45] <Michiyo> kk
L689[15:02:24] <gamax92> oh okay...
L690[15:02:43] *
Michiyo pokes gamax92
L691[15:02:51] <gamax92> I got an error
from a callback ... "x != java.lang.Character"
L692[15:04:29] <gamax92> Michiyo:
yes?
L693[15:04:31] <SolraBizna> Achai: while
you exist, we need to collaborate on OCCross
L694[15:04:35] <Michiyo> Hai
L695[15:04:39] <gamax92> Michiyo: hey
:3
L696[15:04:44] <Achai> which is what
L697[15:04:58] <SolraBizna> standardized,
repeatable toolchains and standard libraries for OC
architectures
L698[15:05:02] <SolraBizna> using
crosstool-ng
L699[15:05:14] <Achai> hmm
L700[15:05:25] <SolraBizna> should be as
easy as just giving me a crosstool-ng script
L701[15:05:28] <SolraBizna> er,
config
L702[15:05:49] <Achai> idk, i don't even
use crosstool-ng for my stuff
L703[15:06:01] <SolraBizna> I didn't
either, but it's so much easier to get set up
L704[15:06:18] <Achai> I piggyback off of
devkitARM since it already has binaries available
L705[15:06:54] <SolraBizna> actually, if
you tell me the details of your emulated machine, I can just make
one
L706[15:08:45] <Achai> its arm7tdmi (which
is why I used dkA), memory is mapped at 0 and goes up to
memory_size, thumb is usually disabled because thumb mode is
untested
L707[15:09:55]
<20kdc>
...so, in other words, you could probably get away with running the
original Lego Mindstorms NXT firmware on it? Sounds fun! (Unsure
about the memory map, but still.)
L708[15:10:21] <gamax92> no, it doesn't
mean that at all
L709[15:10:52]
<20kdc> Aw.
Still, right processor.
L710[15:18:11] <SolraBizna> Achai: are you
supporting both endiannesses?
L711[15:25:04] <SolraBizna> also, which
FPU?
L712[15:26:47] <Mettaton_Fab> i have an
original NXT her with me!
L713[15:26:52] <Mettaton_Fab> *here
L714[15:27:55]
<20kdc>
Mettaton_Fab: Did you remember to hug it and feed it breakfast this
morning? Remember, it needs to be fed a steady supply of 5V through
the Type-B port.
L715[15:28:08] <Mettaton_Fab> but it does
not want to start up
L716[15:28:15]
<20kdc>
?
L717[15:28:21] <Mettaton_Fab> even if i
give it power.
L718[15:28:32] <Mettaton_Fab> so it is ded
i think.
L719[15:29:08]
<20kdc>
(Course, IIRC the things needed battery power even with USB. How
many batteries did they take again, 6?)
L720[15:29:12] <Achai> SolraBizna: little
endian and no FPU for now
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L722[15:30:40] <Mettaton_Fab> they took
6
L723[15:30:55] <Mettaton_Fab> but it does
not want to boot even with batteries.
L724[15:32:15] <SolraBizna> EABI?
L725[15:32:56] <SolraBizna> (well, there
are no other choices so EABI)
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L727[15:33:28] <Mettaton_Fab> EABI? was
dat?
L728[15:33:58] <Skye> arm-eabi- ?
L729[15:34:09] *
SolraBizna points to Skye
L730[15:34:17] <SolraBizna> ...
L731[15:34:24] <SolraBizna> Skye's false
hat is a diamond
L732[15:34:30] <SolraBizna> There is a
diamond in the Skye
L733[15:34:37] <Skye> )_)
L734[15:35:30] <SolraBizna> Achai: last
question I promise, does the ARM7TDMI have an MMU?
L735[15:36:03] <Mettaton_Fab> Solra, what
is mine?
L736[15:36:15] <SolraBizna> yours is
!
L737[15:36:53] <Mettaton_Fab> fuck.
L738[15:38:23] <Mettaton_Fab> my stepbro
told me how to spam on whatsapp.
L739[15:40:01] <Forecaster> false
hat?
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L741[15:40:37] <SolraBizna> and while I'm
appending questions, is OpenARMs the preferred stylization of the
name?
L742[15:40:58] <SolraBizna> Forecaster:
summary, I kept getting confused when people had the same hats and
the same nick lengths, so I made a script to add hats to such
people until I could tell them apart
L743[15:41:20] <Forecaster> hats?
L744[15:41:25] <Forecaster> oO
L745[15:42:48] <SolraBizna> the characters
prepended to a person's name so you know what mode they have
L746[15:43:01] <SolraBizna> @ for op, %
for half-op, + for voice
L747[15:43:07] <Forecaster> I know
L748[15:43:15] <Forecaster> I've never
heard anyone call them "hats" before
L749[15:43:26] <SolraBizna> where I come
from that's common
L750[15:43:36] <Forecaster> okay
L751[15:44:32] <Forecaster> I thought
that's what you were referring to but wanted confirmation
L752[15:44:36] <Skye> SolraBizna, we need
a 68k emulator
L753[15:44:40] <Skye>
hehehehehhheheeh
L754[15:45:03] <SolraBizna> I have good
news for you
L755[15:45:09] <SolraBizna> crosstool-ng
supports m68k
L756[15:45:16] <SolraBizna> which means,
so can occross
L757[15:45:29] <gamax92> does it support
mips
L758[15:45:36] <SolraBizna>
indeedly-doodly.
L759[15:45:56] <SolraBizna> if
GreaseMonkey shows signs of life I will gather information for
OpenMIPS
L760[15:46:10] <gamax92> no progress on
figuring out that utf-8 stuff btw :D
L761[15:46:15] <SolraBizna> D:
L762[15:48:03] <Skye> just use
UTF-32
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L764[15:53:37] <gamax92> ahh shit
L765[15:54:06] <gamax92> LuaJ's
string.format is not binary safe.
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L767[15:55:04] <gamax92> or ... it is?
where is this error coming from then :/
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L772[16:08:18] <Achai> SolraBizna: yes,
(at least my implementation does)
L773[16:10:58] <SolraBizna> then the
config is complete
L774[16:11:35] <SolraBizna> care to test
if it suits your needs?
L775[16:13:42] <Mettaton_Fab> how many
dedotated wam do i need for minecraft?
L776[16:13:56] <SolraBizna> potato
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L779[16:27:58] <gamax92> SolraBizna: okay,
so LuaC's problem with the stuff I listed as "Not binary
safe" can be fixed in JNLua by doing the String -> byte[]
conversion using String.getBytes and not GetStringUTFChars
L780[16:28:35] <gamax92> and then also
lua_pushbytearray instead of lua_pushstring, and UTF-8 is received
and not the modified variant
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L782[16:29:10] <gamax92> LuaJ also has a
problem but it's elsewhere
L783[16:32:24] <gamax92> ...
L784[16:32:44] <gamax92> LuaJ is not using
Java to convert a String to a UTF-8 byte array, but it's own
converter
L785[16:33:03] <gamax92> it's own
converter happens to not handle surrogate pairs.
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L787[16:45:26] <gamax92> ooh, I should go
look at the xowa luaj fork
L788[16:45:46] <gamax92> the xowa page
also describes a bunch of luaj problems
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L791[16:52:24] <Kodos> Anyone mess with
Forge's temperature stuff? I'm interested in making a mod that is
basically IC2's Coolant and Hot Coolant
L792[17:08:54] <SolraBizna> gamax92:
lol
L793[17:10:27] <SolraBizna> the guy who
was asking about "ticking memory connection" before may
have been experiencing the wrong-side-of-the-writing-desk bug in
MystCraft
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L797[17:23:43] <nicohman> Does anyone know
what the nanomachine effect hive_mind does?
L798[17:25:34] <nicohman> Anyone? I have
it enabled but can't tell what it does
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L800[17:27:28] <cloakable> no idea
:D
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L803[17:31:20] <Kodos> nicohman,
Spoilers™
L804[17:33:27] <nicohman> Seriously is it
at least useful?
L805[17:37:13] <Kodos> Yes
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L811[18:12:01] <Antheus> :3
L812[18:12:05] <Antheus> Chili is about to
be done
L813[18:12:11] <Antheus> %weather
76020
L814[18:12:12] <MichiBot> Current weather
for Azle, TX Current Temp: 34.1°F/1.2°C Feels Like: 34°F/1°C
Current Humidity: 43% Wind: From the East 0.0 Mph/0.0 Km/h
Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L815[18:36:37] <Kodos> %weather
62012
L816[18:36:37] <MichiBot> Current weather
for Brighton, IL Current Temp: 14.5°F/-9.7°C Feels Like: 14°F/-10°C
Current Humidity: 70% Wind: From the West 0.0 Mph/0.0 Km/h
Conditions: Mostly Cloudy
L817[18:37:05] <Kodos> No wonder I can't
feel my hands after taking the garbage out
L818[18:37:08] <Kodos> Or nose
L819[18:40:49] <Kodos> Where the fuck does
Railcraft keep their emblem code code
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L824[18:51:47] *
Izaya grumbles
L825[18:52:07] <Izaya> So the current
problem with building CM is that it can't find files that are
definitely there.
L826[18:58:23] <Izaya> or that executable
could be fucked.
L827[19:00:57] <Izaya> I give up
L828[19:00:59] <Izaya> this is
impossible
L829[19:01:08] <Izaya> the prebuilt
executables are custom and totally broken
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L831[19:26:28] <gamax92> one thing I do
like about scala is that it has a repl
L832[19:26:35] <gamax92> makes it easy to
test some stuff
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L835[19:33:21] <Xal> is it possible to
write a mod in clojure?
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L838[19:51:27] <SolraBizna> does Clojure
interop with Java?
L839[19:59:54] <gamax92> SolraBizna:
Fixing LuaJ's UTF-8 encoder, what do you think should be done on
unmatched surrogate pairs?
L840[20:00:13] <gamax92> convert to '?'
like Java does, or encode it as it's respective 3 byte
sequence
L841[20:00:39] <SolraBizna> there is a
Unicode code point reserved for this sort of thing
L842[20:00:52] <SolraBizna> you can use
U+FFFD
L843[20:01:27] <gamax92> I could but Java
happens to not do so
L844[20:01:31] <gamax92> it replaces with
'?'
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L846[20:08:28] <Stary[m]> 'fixing
luaj'
L847[20:08:28] <Stary[m]> ???
L848[20:10:19] <gamax92> Stary[m]: yes
and?
L849[20:10:42] <Stary[m]> i thought luaj
was like.. bad
L850[20:10:49] <gamax92> yes, hence why
it's being fixed
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L853[20:20:16] <S3> zflash is coming
along!
L854[20:20:18] * S3
dances
L855[20:20:49] <S3> it looks like the data
card is a bit retarded in that if you try to compress more than
10.9KB it runs out of power even in creative cases
L856[20:21:03] <S3> makes no sense, but
the solution is to compress in 4KB chunks
L857[20:21:17] <S3> Izaya: about 10 KB of
code was fiiting in like 3KB of eeprom
L859[20:21:35] <S3> including with the
decompressing loader which is only like 100 bytes
L860[20:21:48] <Izaya> nice
L861[20:22:05] *
Izaya is still attempting to build Cyanogenmod
L862[20:24:54] <S3> wait a minute
L863[20:24:56] <S3> for your
android?
L864[20:25:01] <S3> or Minecraft!!!
L865[20:25:09] <S3> or on OC?!?!?!
L866[20:26:48] <gamax92>
?!!?!?!!?one!!??!?!!?1?!!??!?!?!?!
L867[20:28:11] <Izaya> Android
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L869[20:33:45] <Kodos> %tell Vexatos Make
the digital locomotive relay work with creative electric locos
(1.7.10) please D=
L870[20:33:46] <MichiBot> Kodos: Vexatos
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L871[20:35:42] <gamax92> ahh dammit, lost
my commit message :/
L872[20:38:23] <SolraBizna> gamax92:
delayed response sorry
L873[20:38:44] <SolraBizna> I would still
recommend using U+FFFD, but replacing with '?' is also
compliant
L874[20:39:55] <SolraBizna> encoding as
its 3 byte sequence is forbidden
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L887[23:04:55] <scj643-mc> hi
L888[23:05:11] <scj643-mc> scj643
L889[23:07:05] <scj643-mc>
dsdlsdsefdsa
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L894[23:08:47] <scj643-mc> I'm using wee
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L895[23:08:51] <scj643-mc> Hi
Vexatos
L896[23:09:14] <Vexatos> hi
L897[23:09:15] <scj643-mc> *woochat
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L899[23:11:24] <gamax92> Vexatos: Would
you happen to know how to combine the contents of a scala
Vector?
L900[23:12:04] <Vexatos> define
"combine"
L901[23:12:16] <Vexatos> adding
them?
L902[23:13:10] <gamax92> I have
Vector(Array('f'), Array('g'), Array('h'), Array('i')), I then want
Array('fghi')
L903[23:13:33] <Vexatos> %tell Kodos
actually, it's called a magic steam locomotive internally...
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L906[23:14:56] <Vexatos> gamax92, what
about vector.flatten?
L907[23:16:03] <gamax92> Vexatos: that'll
work, thanks
L908[23:16:35] <Vexatos> That has nothing
to do with "combining contents" :P
L909[23:16:38] <Kodos> Vexatos, wat
L910[23:16:42] <Vexatos> What are you
doing, gamax92
L911[23:16:53] <Kodos> I mean the
perpetual thinger
L912[23:17:42] <Vexatos> uh
L913[23:17:43] <Vexatos> hm
L914[23:17:45] <Vexatos> but
L915[23:17:48] <Vexatos> shouldn't that
already work?
L916[23:18:39] <Vexatos> hm
L917[23:18:40] <Vexatos> maybe not
L918[23:19:07] <Vexatos> Kodos, that's
kind of hard to do, unfortunately
L919[23:19:38] <gamax92> Vexatos: not a
clue :D
L920[23:19:44] <gamax92> it compiles
though
L921[23:20:12] <Vexatos> Kodos, right now
it's hardcoded to EntityLocomotiveElectric because that makes it
easy to check for the type
L922[23:20:29] <Vexatos> I'd have to
loosen it to EntityLocomotive and do case checking virtually
everywhere
L923[23:21:35] <gamax92> did not
work
L924[23:21:40] <gamax92> toArray.flatten
does work though
L926[23:23:58] <Kodos> Hokey
L927[23:25:38] <Vexatos> VectOS
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