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L1[00:03:39] <Antheus> welp
L2[00:03:45] <Antheus> my summer has technically over now
L3[00:03:50] <Antheus> as I go back home today
L4[00:03:55] <Antheus> since it's sunday
L5[00:04:07] <Antheus> as of 4 min ago
L6[00:04:12] <Antheus> t5*
L7[00:06:09] <Izaya> 80/180 files split
L8[00:06:21] <gamax92> Izaya: not even half
L9[00:09:29] <Izaya> 90/100
L10[00:09:33] <Izaya> 90/180
L11[00:09:35] <Izaya> *
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L15[00:26:02] <gamax92> Reading the code golf section of stackexchange is always fun
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L19[00:41:03] <Izaya> https://www.sifive.com/ so this exists
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L45[02:17:29] <shortybsd> Anyone have any issues with OpenComputers-MC1.10.2-1.6.0.3-rc.1 being able to see EnderIO's capacitor bank? I used components to list everything attached to computer. The capacitor doesn't list.
L46[02:18:00] <Forecaster> are you using an adapter?
L47[02:18:13] <shortybsd> I hooked it up 2 different ways. 1.) Attached an Adapter to the capacitor and ran cable back to computer. 2.) Placed it directly next to the computer. Both failed
L48[02:18:29] <Forecaster> do you have computronics?
L49[02:18:32] <shortybsd> Forecaster, yes
L50[02:18:35] <shortybsd> no
L51[02:18:48] <shortybsd> No need for Computronics.
L52[02:18:56] <Forecaster> I'm fairly sure it's computronics that adds the enderIO intergration
L53[02:20:12] <shortybsd> Very strange, my last 4 modpacks I didn't use Computronics but 5 ago I did. This same setup works perfect in all my other packs.
L54[02:20:34] <shortybsd> I will try it now as I need this up and running
L55[02:22:01] <shortybsd> Only in my 1.7.10 modpack I used Computronics. Never had it in 1.8.9, 1.9.4 and 1.10.2
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L57[02:26:45] <shortybsd> Forecaster, Computronics is only out for 1.7.10 so that is a no go.
L58[02:28:44] <Forecaster> pretty sure there are dev builds for higher
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L60[02:33:04] <shortybsd> found it! thanks man
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L64[02:47:09] <Izaya> Are there any C compilers for loonix that would fit in say... 100M
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L73[03:20:41] <GreaseMonkey> [ben@flamethrower mips-gcc]$ du -sh .
L74[03:20:41] <GreaseMonkey> 3.0G .
L75[03:20:44] <GreaseMonkey> probably not
L76[03:20:58] <GreaseMonkey> then again that's all the build files and shit
L77[03:21:09] <GreaseMonkey> [ben@flamethrower mipsel-none-elf]$ du -sh .
L78[03:21:09] <GreaseMonkey> 162M .
L79[03:21:14] <GreaseMonkey> that's not looking too good either
L80[03:22:29] <GreaseMonkey> Izaya: iirc there's something like TCC (tiny c compiler) and i think there's some similar projects but yeah i don't think clang or gcc will fit
L81[03:23:04] <GreaseMonkey> although there's definitely something fishy going on here:
L82[03:23:05] <GreaseMonkey> $ ls -lh /usr/mipsel-none-elf/bin/
L83[03:23:05] <GreaseMonkey> total 53M
L84[03:23:05] <GreaseMonkey> -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.9M May 28 12:50 ar
L85[03:23:27] <infinitysamurai> I've added a debug card to my computer, how do I used the commands that it allows?
L86[03:23:36] <GreaseMonkey> infinitysamurai: very carefully
L87[03:23:47] <GreaseMonkey> afaik there's no specific program for it
L88[03:23:53] <GreaseMonkey> you'll have to open a lua prompt
L89[03:23:54] <infinitysamurai> Hah, yeah I know. I mean I don't know how to use cards
L90[03:23:57] <GreaseMonkey> try something like this:
L91[03:24:07] <GreaseMonkey> C=require "component"; D=C.debug
L92[03:24:22] <GreaseMonkey> then you can get a few methods by doing: =D
L93[03:24:24] <GreaseMonkey> IIRC
L94[03:24:27] <infinitysamurai> oh ok you need to the component bit first, I see
L95[03:25:31] <Forecaster> gasp, hacking attempts
L96[03:25:57] <infinitysamurai> ayy, thank you for the help
L97[03:32:12] <Izaya> I'll take a look at TCC GreaseMonkey
L98[03:32:20] <Izaya> I want to be able to build stuff on my old phone
L99[03:32:29] <Izaya> which has a whole 178MB of internal storage
L100[03:34:24] <Izaya> https://lainfile.pw/41bc/ just look at all that free space
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L103[03:36:13] <GreaseMonkey> Izaya: it's either that or SSHFS
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L118[04:20:38] <ade124|mobile> tfw you dd a disk and feel incredibly scared
L119[04:22:29] <Inari> anyone here played fantasy life?
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L121[04:24:20] <infinitysamurai> wut dat
L122[04:24:41] <infinitysamurai> Hey Inari, did you work on the stardew valley Storm mod API?
L123[04:25:01] <Inari> a bit, yeah
L124[04:25:16] <ade124|mobile> Playing real life is scary enough
L125[04:25:21] <infinitysamurai> small world
L126[04:25:29] <Inari> before it died haha
L127[04:25:39] <Inari> fantasy life is a 3ds game
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L129[04:33:01] <Forecaster> is it similar to animal crossing or something?
L130[04:38:27] <Shawn|4650M> are EEPROM bios's hot swappable?
L131[04:38:57] <Forecaster> changes wont apply unless you restart the device
L132[04:39:38] <Shawn|4650M> I mean, for flashing
L133[04:40:00] <Forecaster> yes
L134[04:41:23] <ade124|mobile> I just realised that dd has a "status=progress" option that shows the progress...
L135[04:42:13] <Shawn|4650M> cool
L136[04:43:16] <Forecaster> that's got nothing to do with bios though
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L138[04:44:49] <ade124|mobile> Ik
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L140[04:45:16] <ade124|mobile> *pretends that dd can be used with bios'"
L141[04:45:26] <ade124|mobile> *bioses
L142[04:45:53] <Forecaster> I wasn't talking to you :P
L143[04:46:30] <ade124|mobile> It's not like anyone in any other "chat room" knows what a dd is
L144[04:46:54] <ade124|mobile> (No one uses linux in HK unfortunately)
L145[04:49:58] <Inari> Forecaster: hm not really? maybe?
L146[04:50:02] <Inari> i just know you can do different jobs
L147[04:50:05] <Inari> and level up in them
L148[04:50:11] <Inari> supposedly its kind of a grindy game
L149[04:50:14] <Inari> but a mellow kinda grind
L150[04:53:44] <Forecaster> sounds like something I'd rather do while flying a spaceship :P
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L153[05:01:32] <Inari> Forecaster: well you can :P
L154[05:01:44] <Inari> 3ds while waiting for E:D to go somewhere
L155[05:02:12] <Inari> of course that imo makes the whole thing rather hectic than relaxing and mellow
L156[05:02:13] <Inari> but eh
L157[05:02:39] <Forecaster> I dont even have a 3ds :P
L158[05:02:44] <Inari> :p boo
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L160[05:03:57] <infinitysamurai> Haven't had a proper working DS since I ripped the touch screen of my original one
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L162[05:10:06] <Forecaster> when traveling I just play pkmn black on my phone
L163[05:12:47] <Shawn|4650M> Sup fox Qapchu' Doq 'ej wovbe' rIn Ha'DIbaH buD.
L164[05:13:35] <Inari> and people say I type badly
L165[05:17:20] * vifino groans and snuggles Lizzy
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L167[05:17:57] <Shawn|4650M> ghobe' wej Segh SoH badly, nuq nuq Hech laD SoH
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L169[05:18:55] <Inari> right then
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L173[05:30:55] * infinitysamurai
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L181[05:37:20] <Sangar> o/
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L183[05:38:01] <Ember_Primrose> \o
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L189[05:55:11] <Vexatos> o\ Snagar
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L192[06:05:39] <Forecaster> hai Ember_Primrose
L193[06:05:47] <Forecaster> ready for streams tonight? :D
L194[06:06:02] <Ember_Primrose> OH YIISS
L195[06:06:19] <Forecaster> remember that it's at 6 today
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L197[06:07:47] <Ember_Primrose> yep
L198[06:07:52] <infinitysamurai> what kind of stream?
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L200[06:07:55] <Ember_Primrose> 2 or 1 hour?
L201[06:08:02] <Forecaster> 2
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L203[06:11:28] <Izaya> this is new
L204[06:11:48] <Izaya> a TV show where not all the computers are Macs
L205[06:11:51] <infinitysamurai> What kind of stream is it?
L206[06:12:28] <Forecaster> infinitysamurai: not sure what you mean, I'll be playing RimWorld
L207[06:13:15] <infinitysamurai> That answers my question :)
L208[06:15:22] <Forecaster> :>
L209[06:18:00] <Inari> %tell payonel https://i.imgur.com/TbrrDyE.mp4 "The real netflix and chill"
L210[06:18:02] <MichiBot> Inari: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L211[06:19:42] <Inari> why do i find it cute when a cat yawns, opening the mouth so wide, but when a human does it without covering their mouth its gross
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L215[06:29:04] <Forecaster> because humans are gross, cats are cute
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L217[06:36:16] <Inari> well there are cute humans
L218[06:36:30] <Inari> I wonder
L219[06:36:33] <Forecaster> and they probably yawn cute as well :P
L220[06:36:41] <Inari> maybe we just ifnd cats cute because we arent cats, hence w dont know all the gross points so much :P
L221[06:36:57] <Inari> Forecaster: eh, i dont think a human yawning wihtout covering their mouth can be cute
L222[06:38:22] <Forecaster> there are most likely exceptions
L223[06:38:23] <Forecaster> :P
L224[06:39:57] <Forecaster> babies?
L225[06:40:05] <Forecaster> they're technically human
L226[06:40:17] <Inari> i find babies beyond gross for even existing
L227[06:41:00] <Inari> so dunno, aks someone who doesnt
L228[06:41:00] <Inari> :3
L229[06:41:02] <Forecaster> eh, they're just somewhat more gross than animals
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L233[06:48:39] <Vexatos> Inari, fun fact: You have been a baby at one point in time D:
L234[06:49:14] <Forecaster> nah, I think Inari was created fully lewd by a tentacle
L235[06:51:20] <Lizzy> ^
L236[06:52:28] <Inari> Vexatos: luckily i dont recall any of that
L237[06:58:29] <Lizzy> also i found out last night on the way home from the airport that my cat Charlie (mums) was put down on the 11th. He was suffering from some form of heart deficiency which meant he kept fainting every now and then. We got him around this time in 2002, so 14 years isn't bad
L238[06:58:52] <Forecaster> :/
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L240[07:00:27] <Lizzy> aparrently my mum texted me to tell me but she either forgot or it didn't come through cause of roaming
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L242[07:02:02] <Forecaster> one of ours it uptowards 16 or so
L243[07:02:10] <Forecaster> he doesn't have long left now >:
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L246[07:04:41] <Lizzy> Forecaster, my dad's old cat (Collumbia, not sure if i'm spelling that right but it's the one in the first post currently on the homepage of my site) lived to about 16 before his liver kicked the bucket
L247[07:05:51] <Inari> dman nature and its builtin degeneration
L248[07:06:39] <Lizzy> in other news i now have my laptop's home dir backed up to Athar
L249[07:06:53] <Lizzy> minus a few directories that dont need to go over
L250[07:07:18] <Lizzy> like my Dropbox foler and some cache folders
L251[07:09:14] <Forecaster> yeah, he doesn't eat a lot anymore
L252[07:14:10] <Lizzy> %isup http://oclogs.pc-logix.com
L253[07:14:13] <MichiBot> Lizzy: http://oclogs.pc-logix.com Is Down.
L254[07:14:23] <Lizzy> Mimiru, your stuff broked again
L255[07:14:50] <Elizabeth> @Mimiru ^ (re-pinging here so you get it)
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L258[07:23:08] <Ember_Primrose> https://imgur.com/gallery/CQhaS
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L264[07:51:17] <vifino> So. Uh.
L265[07:51:29] <vifino> Anyone got experience with Dell Precision 450's?
L266[07:52:51] <S3> NOPE
L267[07:52:59] <S3> oh hey vifino
L268[07:53:12] <S3> I was just being random. precision 450.. isn't that like.. a really old desktop?
L269[07:53:14] <vifino> Hello.
L270[07:53:23] <vifino> It is a really old workstation.
L271[07:53:32] <S3> with the old integrated i910 intel video cards?
L272[07:53:55] <vifino> Dual 32-bit 533Mhz FSB Prestonia Xeons with 4gb ram, I think.
L273[07:54:12] <vifino> S3: No, AGP Pro graphics card of some sort.
L274[07:54:23] <S3> heh
L275[07:54:28] <S3> AGP!
L276[07:54:35] <S3> so not too too old
L277[07:55:00] <vifino> '02, I think.
L278[07:55:16] <vifino> I hate 32-bit dual cpu's though.
L279[07:55:27] <S3> core duo?
L280[07:55:27] <vifino> Never got anything to run decently on old cpus like that.
L281[07:55:37] <vifino> S3: No, dual cpus, not dual core.
L282[07:55:40] <S3> ah
L283[07:55:56] <vifino> Both xeons in this machine are single core.
L284[07:56:12] <Inari> raspberry pi supercomputer
L285[07:56:42] <vifino> Inari: A single Pi is probably faster.
L286[07:57:07] <vifino> Well, maybe not for RAM intensive stuff.
L287[07:57:15] <vifino> It got 4gb DDR ram, I think.
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L289[07:57:47] <vifino> However, it has Ultra 320 SCSI.
L290[07:58:01] <vifino> Which is probably the only reason this machine could be of any value to me.
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L292[08:04:26] <vifino> I have no idea what I am gonna do with that machine.
L293[08:04:43] <vifino> I don't even know what I can run on it.
L294[08:05:06] <Eleria> Well, linux
L295[08:05:10] <Eleria> Arch maybe
L296[08:06:21] <S3> so I just had like 4 kernel panics in a row
L297[08:06:30] <S3> on Slackware and I was like wtf
L298[08:06:39] <S3> until I was like, OH. /var partition is megacorrupted
L299[08:06:45] <S3> fixed :D
L300[08:06:55] <Eleria> xD
L301[08:08:22] <vifino> Eleria: Very descriptive.
L302[08:08:29] <Izaya> vifino: What's the issue with it?
L303[08:08:37] <Izaya> I have much experience with 32-bit shitboxen
L304[08:08:49] <vifino> Again, 32bit dual xeon Prestonia-generation
L305[08:08:56] <S3> vifino: also, I have a dual pentium III box I've never had issues with ever
L306[08:09:05] <vifino> S3: dual cpu
L307[08:09:10] <Eleria> vifino: I have no idea how to actually do it, So i just said what i think could work ...
L308[08:09:13] <S3> thats what I just said vifino ?
L309[08:09:18] <S3> I have a dual pentium 3 box :P
L310[08:09:25] <Izaya> I also have a dual P3 box that has only had issues with noise and ancient HDDs
L311[08:09:26] <S3> two 1 Ghz coppermine pentium 3s
L312[08:09:27] <S3> lol
L313[08:09:37] <vifino> S3: Meh.
L314[08:09:38] <Izaya> Dual 1.133Ghz. I win.
L315[08:09:47] <S3> ...
L316[08:09:50] <vifino> Dual 3.2Ghz. I win.
L317[08:09:54] <S3> yeah well I have 7 scsi drives in it
L318[08:09:55] <S3> :P
L319[08:10:01] <S3> 32GB a piece
L320[08:10:05] <S3> and run zfs on it
L321[08:10:14] <Izaya> S3: I have 4 Ultra320 36GB HDDs in it, AND a tape drive
L322[08:10:18] <S3> it's actually kind of hilarious
L323[08:10:19] <Eleria> Celeron 3 ? 1,2 GHz not dual ? , I win
L324[08:10:25] <S3> these are ultra 160s
L325[08:10:42] <Izaya> The P3 box is even more of a jet engine than my desktop
L326[08:10:43] <S3> vyr320s are nice
L327[08:10:57] <Mimiru> %isup https://oclogs.pc-logix.com
L328[08:10:59] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com Is Up.
L329[08:11:05] <S3> I dunno how you get the bandwidth for 320s though on a p3 box?
L330[08:11:11] <S3> 160s is extremely fast as it is
L331[08:11:20] <S3> ultra160 is more than a gigabit
L332[08:11:26] <Izaya> Dunno, but I can read and write to them, REALLY FAST :D
L333[08:11:36] <Izaya> when they don't make horrible noises anyway
L334[08:11:45] <S3> it's like 1.2 Gbit
L335[08:11:56] <S3> 320 is..
L336[08:11:59] <S3> 2.4 gbit iirc
L337[08:12:09] <S3> 2.5 bit
L338[08:12:36] <Izaya> >.> so Debian only has a package for grive
L339[08:12:40] <Izaya> and grive does not handle large files
L340[08:12:52] <Izaya> ie 182 1G encrypted files
L341[08:12:57] <S3> Izaya: if it's that old, I bet it's an adaptec card isn't it?
L342[08:13:02] <Izaya> Yup.
L343[08:13:09] <S3> hheh
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L345[08:14:49] <S3> those are nice
L346[08:15:06] <S3> this is what you need
L347[08:15:15] <S3> pcie x16 fibre channel scsi with solid state scsi drives
L348[08:15:37] <S3> that plus DMA = lolwut
L349[08:15:52] <Izaya> would swapping be bearable on something like that?
L350[08:16:04] <S3> maybe
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L352[08:16:20] <S3> it's almost as fast as ram at that point lol
L353[08:16:24] <S3> ram is slow
L354[08:16:35] <Izaya> SRAM when
L355[08:16:38] <S3> thanks to the industry that corrupted our computers we use today
L356[08:16:52] <Izaya> well, SRAM like 20 years ago
L357[08:16:56] <S3> SRAM is good
L358[08:16:58] <S3> SRAM is much faster
L359[08:17:19] <S3> if we still used real SRAM, the RAM would run at the same speed as the cpu clock
L360[08:17:24] <Izaya> They ran the SRAM in a lot of 8-bit micros double the speed of the CPU, didn't they?
L361[08:17:50] <S3> sram doesn't have a clock
L362[08:17:54] <S3> :>
L363[08:18:10] <Izaya> So they could use the same memory for the display chip and the CPU but not wait for the display chip to finish reading
L364[08:18:18] <S3> it's just much more expensive
L365[08:18:24] <Izaya> well then they ran it double-duty
L366[08:18:32] <Izaya> yeah like 6 transistors compared to one and a capacitor
L367[08:18:33] <S3> right well that's how it worked on the 6502
L368[08:18:51] <S3> you told it to shift a byte in memory 6 bits to left (without barrel shifters mind you)
L369[08:18:56] <S3> and it'd take 6 cpu cycles.
L370[08:19:07] <S3> on the intel 8080 however at 5Mhz
L371[08:19:11] <S3> it took 36
L372[08:19:15] <S3> it used DRAM
L373[08:19:38] <S3> the 6502 running at 2Mhz has waster than a 5Mhz 8080..
L374[08:19:47] <S3> (may have been the 8000 but the problem still exists)
L375[08:20:06] <Izaya> couldn't a 2Mhz 6502 beat a 4Mhz Z80 in a lot of stuff?
L376[08:20:08] <S3> you would think that with todays technology we could make SRAM super cheap now
L377[08:20:41] <S3> I don't remember if the z80 used dram or sram or what, I imagine it was dram
L378[08:20:57] <S3> Izaya: they cut corners by adding more registers and pipelining and all these things
L379[08:21:07] <S3> to make it run better and faster over time (the x86 arch that is)
L380[08:21:10] <Izaya> The Z80 was an expanded 8080 so
L381[08:21:14] <S3> instead of fixing the ACTUAL problem
L382[08:21:21] <S3> which was, memory bottlenecking
L383[08:21:51] <Izaya> oh yeah you seem like someone that would care
L384[08:21:53] <S3> it's not like they are bad chips, it's just why I don't like x86
L385[08:21:58] <Izaya> Are you excited for RISC-V?
L386[08:21:59] <S3> and that incluses x86_64
L387[08:22:23] <S3> sorta. I don't kno enough about RISC and also MIPS architectures yet
L388[08:23:06] <Izaya> tl;dr fully open CPU architecture, designed from a clean slate etc
L389[08:23:21] <S3> I always wanted to fabricate an opensparc
L390[08:23:49] <Izaya> SPARC seems nice
L391[08:23:54] <Izaya> I want an FPGA but I'm too cheap
L392[08:24:13] <S3> Izaya: you can get a very cheap one that I'm buying soon
L393[08:24:21] <Izaya> oooooo?
L394[08:24:39] <S3> https://www.adafruit.com/products/1553?gclid=Cj0KEQjwouW9BRCN0ozIifTI6_cBEiQAD9gNsYDuxXrRiaEKAxV1-KnIf1vbar_8W9FjE_JW8pXbggQaAgoq8P8HAQ
L395[08:24:50] <Izaya> >adafruit
L396[08:24:50] <S3> it has a xilinx spartan 6
L397[08:24:56] <Izaya> I'm excited before I even look
L398[08:25:08] <Izaya> oh shit if that was AUD I could afford that
L399[08:25:19] <S3> and it has an ATMega 324 for programming it
L400[08:25:25] <S3> which means you can use the whole thing as an arduino too
L401[08:25:31] <S3> or an arduino coprocessor, etc
L402[08:26:04] <S3> aud...
L403[08:26:17] <S3> it's 104 australian dollars
L404[08:26:23] <Izaya> well shit
L405[08:26:36] <S3> Izaya: considering that most fpgas are 10,000 $+ USD
L406[08:26:39] <Izaya> that's $29 dollars more than I have to my name
L407[08:26:44] <S3> at least the ones I play with
L408[08:26:59] <Izaya> you can get cheaper ones
L409[08:27:00] <S3> I have some fpgas that have a full motherboard like you would get for your box, ATX
L410[08:27:03] <Izaya> dev boards and such
L411[08:27:08] <Izaya> fuck I want one
L412[08:27:10] <S3> it takes DDR1 ram, etc
L413[08:27:12] <S3> sata
L414[08:27:23] <S3> has everything, and a PowerPC based xilinx fpga
L415[08:27:40] <vifino> S3: gimmie.
L416[08:27:50] <Lizzy> k, so my grandmother was going to come pick me up and take me to hers so i could help my cousin fix his computer, she said that they wouldn't be more than an hour. that was an hour and 10 minutes ago
L417[08:28:06] <S3> vifino: I got it from my school it was never used and old
L418[08:28:13] <S3> so they just gave it away heh
L419[08:28:19] * vifino hugs Lizzy
L420[08:28:24] * Lizzy hugs vifino
L421[08:28:30] <S3> Lizzy: need a car!
L422[08:28:43] <vifino> No, Lizzy needs a me.
L423[08:28:46] * vifino hides
L424[08:28:47] <S3> don't grandmothers go 1/10th the speed limit?
L425[08:29:03] <S3> maybe she saw a yard sale?
L426[08:29:11] <S3> and is now buying you stuffs
L427[08:29:40] <Lizzy> na
L428[08:30:06] <Lizzy> my grandfather is still eating his desert so they're not even on the move yet
L429[08:30:18] <Lizzy> also i'd probably get a motorcycle
L430[08:31:03] <S3> I've been looking for a car but in the US we have this annoying problem where everybody is frigging lazy and they all drive automatics, so finding a car is that much harder.
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L432[08:36:59] <S3> It's too bad really
L433[08:37:17] <S3> if everyone drive standard then we wouldn't have so many pokemon go accidents
L434[08:37:37] <Lizzy> by standard do you mean manual?
L435[08:37:49] <S3> yes, that's what they still call them here
L436[08:38:04] <S3> even though automatics have kind of become the standard, it's customary to call manual standard here lol
L437[08:39:08] <S3> and then there's the problem that I want to drive everywhere in Maine
L438[08:39:36] <S3> which means I can't really get a car
L439[08:39:57] <S3> I need a truck or an suv. But if I get an SUV, then I won't be able to fit my speakers for my guitar and everything
L440[08:40:38] <S3> so I need a standard truck preferrably with 4wd that isn't rusting out. That really narrows it down to little options
L441[08:41:36] <Elizabeth> @Mimiru when did the seerver region change to the us from wherever it was before?
L442[08:41:42] <S3> 4wd is not needed, but trucks are generally rear wheel drive by default, and 4wd is very nice in the winter when your tires are chained and the roads are rivers of ice
L443[08:41:51] <Mimiru> @Elizabeth ?
L444[08:42:11] <Elizabeth> the server region for this discord is set to us central
L445[08:42:22] <Mimiru> Oh
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L447[08:42:45] <Mimiru> Amsterdam was having MAJOR packet loss. and it was just @gamax92 and I listening to music
L448[08:42:51] <Elizabeth> ah
L449[08:42:51] <Mimiru> so I switched it to something closer to us
L450[08:42:59] <Elizabeth> okay
L451[08:43:03] <S3> because gamax92 was wasting the bandwidth
L452[08:43:07] <S3> wait you guys do voice on discord?
L453[08:43:30] <S3> you guys never talk on discord, lol :P Every time I go on everyone is quiet or sleeping.
L454[08:43:33] <Corded> * Elizabeth is listening to music on discord at the moment
L455[08:46:22] <Izaya> Oh
L456[08:46:31] <Izaya> That's why FF feels slow
L457[08:46:36] <Izaya> it's using 24GB of memory
L458[08:46:39] <Izaya> and I only have 16
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L466[09:18:05] <Lizzy> right, grandmother is here soon so going to put laptop in sleep mode
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L476[09:49:33] <vifino> As it turns out, this machine does not have dual cpus.
L477[09:49:38] <vifino> Only a socket for one.
L478[09:49:54] <vifino> So one 32bit single core xeon with 1gb ddr ram.
L479[09:49:56] <CompanionCube> rekt
L480[09:50:11] <CompanionCube> Izaya: how long has FF been running
L481[09:50:13] <CompanionCube> for it to use 24GB
L482[09:51:13] <Izaya> CompanionCube: a few weeks
L483[09:51:27] * CompanionCube wonders what Chrome would do
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L486[10:01:40] <gamax92> vifino: dual cpus? :o
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L488[10:01:56] <vifino> gamax92: theoretically, i need another cpu for it
L489[10:02:07] <vifino> but i dont know if it is worth the money, time and effort
L490[10:02:17] <vifino> cause it will perform badly, given that it is really old
L491[10:02:57] <gamax92> vifino: what is it?
L492[10:03:55] <vifino> gamax92: Petonia Xeon at 3.2ghz, i think
L493[10:03:59] <vifino> Prestonia*
L494[10:04:24] <gamax92> no no, the machine
L495[10:04:39] <vifino> Dell Precision 450
L496[10:04:46] <gamax92> ohhh
L497[10:05:16] <vifino> Really can't use it for much...
L498[10:05:24] <Mimiru> I had a server with dual 400mhz P3's
L499[10:05:47] <vifino> Mimiru: Did it have any hard drives?
L500[10:05:55] <Mimiru> Guy I worked for upgraded a clients server and I held on to the server incase it was needed
L501[10:05:57] <vifino> If so, it might be useful.
L502[10:06:00] <Mimiru> No, they kept the drives
L503[10:06:03] <vifino> Mine does not.
L504[10:06:22] <Mimiru> No idea what happened to it.. hmm
L505[10:06:49] <vifino> I can't do much with it, it isn't strong, isn't 64bit, doesn't have any drives, ...
L506[10:07:07] <vifino> Only thing of value IMO is it having an SCSI card.
L507[10:07:54] <Elizabeth> K so my cousins pc issue was that he didn't put in the cpu power connector -_-
L508[10:08:04] <Mimiru> lol..
L509[10:08:25] <Izaya> I've done that many times
L510[10:08:30] <Mimiru> yeaaaah
L511[10:08:48] <Mimiru> Also "Why don't I have any video!?!" 6pin pci-e isn't plugged in -_-
L512[10:08:57] <Mimiru> or.. one of the two was plugged in
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L514[10:13:22] <Elizabeth> No, the gpu was plugged in. Though using a 4pin molex to 8pin pcie adapter instead of the pcie power connector
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L516[10:17:23] <Elizabeth> also has these things for drive connections, came with his old case apparently
L517[10:17:23] <Elizabeth> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/125675911474446336/216938824427765762/59dbfbae-fe5b-40ed-ba05-31fa4b9d8b1e1746934501.jpg
L518[10:17:59] <Mimiru> Well, I meant I'd done the GPU thing :p
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L520[10:22:24] <gamax92> Every now and then, I'll turn my computer on to find a "Out of range" message
L521[10:22:47] <gamax92> I turn it off and back on and then it'll be fine. Has to be turn off and back on, a reboot doesn't fix.
L522[10:25:04] <gamax92> hey vifino
L523[10:25:11] <vifino> Hey gamax92.
L524[10:25:19] <gamax92> Does your kernel have cpu support for "Centaur CentaurHauls"
L525[10:25:44] <vifino> I don't know what kernel you are referring to.
L526[10:26:21] <gamax92> a linux kernel
L527[10:27:50] <vifino> My NAS' kernel? No, it doesn't run on anything except my CPU, pretty much.
L528[10:28:02] <vifino> My desktop's kernel? No clue.
L529[10:28:09] * gamax92 pats vifino.
L530[10:28:24] * vifino purrs
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L532[10:38:30] <Inari> hm
L533[10:38:33] <Inari> might hae to try some asian sheet masks
L534[10:40:39] <gamax92> Today I've learned that Jumbo eggs means twin/siamese eggs.
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L544[10:57:04] <Lizzy> a cpu with an aio watercooling unit is supposed to be at 70°C when idling, right?
L545[10:57:05] <Lizzy> :P
L546[10:57:44] <Lizzy> vifino, can you remember if the iso we used on the living room pc was my enterprise one or did we go and find a different one?
L547[10:58:10] <vifino> it was another one
L548[10:58:27] <Lizzy> hmm, did i download it or did you?
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L550[10:58:42] <vifino> we used it before, but we reinstalled with win10 anniversary edition professional
L551[10:58:47] <Lizzy> ah
L552[10:58:52] <vifino> Lizzy: i did, but you wrote it to the usb
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L554[10:59:31] <Lizzy> hmm, where did i put it...
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L557[11:07:17] <gamax92> This site has a discussion system that is based on nameless comments.
L558[11:07:29] <gamax92> it's literally just a list of text.
L559[11:08:29] * Kimiro namelessly pokes gamax92
L560[11:08:45] <gamax92> meep!
L561[11:09:04] <gamax92> Kimiro: but you'll see, I was one step ahead of you! Nyahaha!
L562[11:09:27] <Kimiro> Or were you~
L563[11:09:33] * Kimiro giggles
L564[11:15:18] <Lizzy> vifino, hmm, only iso for w10 i have is the enterprise one. oh well
L565[11:15:19] <Forecaster> aaaa stream, late, stream!
L566[11:16:01] <Lizzy> lol
L567[11:16:34] <Lizzy> right, whilst i'm waiting for this iso to write to the usb i'ma go see what my cousin has done to my granddads old pc
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L569[11:19:48] <gamax92> yay, anniversary edition
L570[11:19:51] <Lizzy> meh, was just a few viruses in the deleted items
L571[11:20:57] <gamax92> I ended up just downloading an installer for it from microsoft's site since it never came in the update list for me.
L572[11:23:18] <Lizzy> hmm, okay, so i can upgrade my laptop back to windows 10 if i wanted to because i've already got the key and stuff on it from a previous upgrade
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L576[11:28:20] <CompanionCube> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/info-gnu/2016-08/msg00008.html oh boy
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L579[11:39:14] <gamax92> FAQ: "Your code is shit!" "That's not a question." "Why is your code so shit?" "Feel free to improve it and submit a pull request."
L580[11:41:10] <gamax92> ... How have I been looking at this site for so long to not notice the background of it is animated
L581[11:54:09] <Ember_Primrose> i should really talk more
L582[11:55:03] <Lizzy> fucking drivers
L583[11:55:12] <g> sounds like a plan
L584[11:56:34] <gamax92> hey g
L585[11:56:40] <g> o/
L586[11:57:21] <Ember_Primrose> lizzy whats wrong
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L592[12:20:36] <shortybsd> I am having a rather weird error. I have a Tier 3 computer connected with cable to an Adapter which then placed next to an EnderIO capacitor. Everything was working 7 hours ago. Nothing has changed. I get in game now to a computer error. It says "Too many components connected to the computer"
L593[12:21:26] <Lizzy> Ember_Primrose, this iso i have doesn't have the drivers for my cousin's pc
L594[12:21:44] <Lizzy> trying a different w7 iso that i have and if that fails i'ma just give him the enterprise w10 iso i have
L595[12:22:45] <Ember_Primrose> yay isos
L596[12:22:47] <Ember_Primrose> >.>
L597[12:23:21] <Lizzy> in other news my cousin's pc is an AMD box, sitting in the bios it's cpu is sitting at 78C
L598[12:24:38] <gamax92> Lizzy: bad fan/paste?
L599[12:24:43] <shortybsd> pretty hot for an AMD. either bad processor or bad fan
L600[12:25:14] <Lizzy> no idea, it cools down when in an actual os though
L601[12:25:51] <Lizzy> could be bad thermal paste
L602[12:26:14] <Lizzy> but at this point i don't really care and just want to get windows on it so i can go home
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L605[12:33:49] <Temia> Wait.
L606[12:34:05] <Temia> If it's one of their more recent APUs, I believe there was something about this
L607[12:34:29] <Lizzy> it's an AM3+ socket
L608[12:34:34] <Temia> Oh.
L609[12:34:37] <Temia> Hm.
L610[12:34:50] <Temia> Do you know which family?
L611[12:34:56] <Lizzy> nope
L612[12:35:01] <Temia> Cuz' this might explain things a bit if it's a modern proc. http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2122665/understanding-temperature-amd-cpus-apus.html
L613[12:35:48] <Lizzy> nor do i really care, just waiting for this w10 to write to this usb which should work
L614[12:35:53] <Temia> It's... bizarre.
L615[12:39:36] <gamax92> Temia: why do you know so much random things :P
L616[12:39:43] <alekso56> Lizzy: i have the same problem in my bios, except yknow much cooler, but it still heats up to 50c.
L617[12:40:09] <Ember_Primrose> o/
L618[12:40:34] <Temia> Because I had to deal with this skewing diagnostics for my brother's computer.
L619[12:40:57] <Temia> (It turns out his power supply was aging badly and couldn't handle the load of the new processor, an A10 APU as opposed to his old i3)
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L622[12:43:25] <gamax92> I do wonder what causes the random "out of range" signal produced by my card
L623[12:44:01] <Lizzy> Temia, i don't think it's anything to do with 3rd party crap software since it's the bios and the radiator was also hot to touch
L624[12:44:32] <Temia> Okay, yeah, that leaves little in question then.
L625[12:44:59] <Temia> My brother's computer had a stock cooler and I don't have an infrared thermometer, though I was frankly tempted to buy one at that point...
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L627[12:45:57] <Inari> Temia: build one \o/
L628[12:48:22] <Temia> I lack the parts.
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L630[12:51:44] <Lizzy> \o/ w10 works
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L634[13:05:48] <Ember_Primrose> kimi
L635[13:05:50] <Ember_Primrose> o/
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L637[13:07:27] * vifino pets Temia
L638[13:08:04] <Ember_Primrose> KIMIRO
L639[13:08:51] <vifino> In other, not so important, news, I have successfully transported the Dell Precision 450 to my home. Having a look inside, it does only have a single cpu, which is a single core xeon, 32 bit and 1gb ram, with both an AGP nvidia gpu and an LSI Ultra 320 SCSI HBA.
L640[13:08:55] <vifino> Hooray.
L641[13:09:18] <Ember_Primrose> wat is dat
L642[13:09:48] <vifino> Wat is wat?
L643[13:09:56] <Ember_Primrose> Kimiro, look on discord
L644[13:10:05] <Ember_Primrose> the dell thingy
L645[13:10:13] <vifino> The dell thingie?
L646[13:10:13] <gamax92> Ember_Primrose: he's not here jeez.
L647[13:10:27] <vifino> A workstation computer, ~2002 era.
L648[13:10:32] <Ember_Primrose> ooh
L649[13:10:38] <Ember_Primrose> gamax92, oh
L650[13:10:47] <Ember_Primrose> hexchat didn't log that
L651[13:10:48] <gamax92> Ember_Primrose: you can clearly see that it says he's Offline.
L652[13:11:00] * Ember_Primrose baps hexchat
L653[13:11:09] <Ember_Primrose> nope hexchat is being buggy
L654[13:11:48] <Ember_Primrose> i dced like three times
L655[13:12:02] <Ember_Primrose> which can be a reasoned
L656[13:12:09] <Ember_Primrose> *reason
L657[13:12:09] <gamax92> Ember_Primrose: being connected to IRC != active on IRC
L658[13:12:51] <Temia> Sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet, don't forget your :p
L659[13:18:19] * gamax92 puts a red cube on top of Temia's head :p
L660[13:18:28] <Temia> '.'?
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L663[13:22:39] <gamax92> oh.
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L665[13:23:42] * gamax92 gives Temia a green cube, takes the red one back
L666[13:23:52] <vifino> Fuck, my cousin was taking care of an ex-fighting dog with cut off ears for a friend, which recovered that poor thing from some polish fuckers. Now, while he was at my grand parents with me, a friend of his took care of him. Turns out, he went out with the dog and didn't put the protection on so that he can't bite people, and he apparently bit a girl. Police, paramedics and such got involved.
L667[13:23:58] * Temia blinkblinks. '~'
L668[13:25:08] <gamax92> vifino: :(
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L670[13:26:07] <vifino> So, uh. Unless my cousin can find someone with a fighter dog holding permissions, he will most likely get put to ethernal sleep...
L671[13:26:28] <vifino> Needless to say, that isn't very nice.
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L675[13:40:33] <Inari> vifino: we're still putting animls to sleep because people are idiots I se <.<
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L677[13:50:19] <vifino> Yeah.
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L679[14:08:26] <Inari> https://zippy.gfycat.com/DiligentFavorableKoi.webm dat belly
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L687[14:49:21] <MalkContent> anybody know where the "Tell Red I said hi" text from the transistor achievement comes from?
L688[14:51:55] <Mimiru> @gamax92 thanks again for the dark theme for stats, it looks great
L689[14:52:17] *** Darkhax is now known as Darkhax_AFK
L690[14:52:21] <gamax92> Hurray for automated HSL inverting :P
L691[14:52:55] <Mimiru> :P
L692[14:53:04] <Mimiru> Still though..
L693[14:54:42] <gamax92> I'm going to have to get you to properly support it though :D
L694[14:54:52] <Mimiru> ?
L695[14:55:19] <gamax92> going to the stats page has it temporarily blink in light
L696[14:56:01] <Mimiru> I use window.addEventListener("load",function(){ if you have something that can fire earlier...
L697[14:58:29] *** Gwyndolin is now known as Gwyndolin|Work
L698[14:59:30] <Mimiru> Even DOMContentLoaded has a flash
L699[15:00:35] <Mimiru> same with "interactive"
L700[15:01:30] <Mimiru> Or... maybe my scp client is fucked :D
L701[15:02:23] <Mimiru> interactive never fires on chrome, works for Opera and IE it seems though
L702[15:04:19] <Mimiru> But yeah DOMContentLoaded flashes still
L703[15:04:27] <Mimiru> and that's about as early an event as I can get
L704[15:05:06] <gamax92> :/ why is there a web server running on my computer. bai
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L707[15:07:52] <Mimiru> even just sticking
L708[15:07:52] <Mimiru> var templateUrl = localStorage.cssTemplate || "sss.css";
L709[15:07:53] <Mimiru> document.getElementById("stylesheet").setAttribute("href",templateUrl);
L710[15:07:53] <Mimiru> straight into the head without waiting for an event has a flash
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L712[15:10:10] <gamax92> Yay, this is why not to install suggested packages.
L713[15:10:16] <Achai> Mimiru: Load both stylesheets at the same time then disable one?
L714[15:10:34] <Achai> Like disable as in remove the element
L715[15:10:39] <gamax92> A web server was installed because of a graphical manpage client
L716[15:10:43] <gamax92> sdfjsdfiopakso
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L718[15:11:12] <Achai> Also CSS3 keyframes do not like commas
L719[15:11:35] <Achai> I was debugging code for hours trying to figure out why the hell one animation would work but the other wouldn't
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L722[15:14:29] <Miyoyo> Hai
L723[15:15:38] <gamax92> freed up about 18GB
L724[15:16:02] <CompanionCube> gamax92: debian's 'recommended' packages cause very twisted dependencies like that
L725[15:17:04] <gamax92> CompanionCube: well I had did that because I installed a program but it installed zero of the things it needs to actually do anything besides launch
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L727[15:17:49] <CompanionCube> yeah, striking a balance is hard
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L730[15:31:23] <gamax92> 24GB free :D
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L732[15:42:05] * Lizzy reboots vifino
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L734[15:42:37] <vifino> beep boop please insert Lizzy beep boop
L735[15:42:56] <Lizzy> shouldn't that be the other way around? *lenny*
L736[15:43:02] <vifino> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L737[15:43:13] <Forecaster> :O
L738[15:43:21] <Forecaster> lewd
L739[15:43:45] <vifino> very
L740[15:44:49] <Forecaster> some of the new 2.2 stuff is going to be horizons only
L741[15:44:56] <gamax92> Sangar
L742[15:45:02] <Forecaster> which means it's not going to be a new expansion
L743[15:45:09] <Forecaster> @ Lizzy
L744[15:45:20] <Lizzy> cool
L745[15:45:26] <gamax92> look it's Circuity https://github.com/fnuecke/Circuity
L746[15:45:37] <Lizzy> I wonder how much stuff my main pc will need to update
L747[15:45:51] <Lizzy> :O
L748[15:45:51] <Forecaster> it doesn't matter to me but it might to you :P
L749[15:46:02] <Lizzy> Forecaster, I have horizons...
L750[15:46:09] <Forecaster> I know
L751[15:46:23] <Forecaster> I meant that I'll get any future expansions regardless
L752[15:46:34] <Lizzy> oh, Season pass?
L753[15:46:38] <Forecaster> yeah
L754[15:46:47] <Lizzy> how much is it?
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L756[15:46:59] <Forecaster> I don't remember
L757[15:47:09] * Lizzy goes to googles
L758[15:47:23] <Mimiru> And now it flashes fucking black first..
L759[15:47:33] <Forecaster> €24.99
L760[15:49:22] <Forecaster> oh, apparently you can dl the original Elite for free
L761[15:49:53] <Lizzy> https://www.frontierstore.net/games/elite-dangerous-horizons-dlc.html i'll probably need to buy my season pass through steam since that's where i got E:D from but 2.3 looks awesome!
L762[15:50:16] <Forecaster> 2.2?
L763[15:50:48] <Lizzy> i know 2.2 is being released soon, i meant i was looking forward to see what 2.3 adds
L764[15:50:57] <Lizzy> mainly the multi-crew part
L765[15:51:29] <Forecaster> oh I hadn't seen that
L766[15:53:29] <Lizzy> oh
L767[15:53:38] <Forecaster> well, I knew about the crew thing, but not that it was definetly coming in 2.3
L768[15:53:38] <Lizzy> i already have the horizons season pass
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L770[15:54:37] <Forecaster> what does that do?
L771[15:54:57] <Lizzy> ?
L772[15:55:06] <Forecaster> the horizons season pass
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L774[15:55:44] <Forecaster> I have the "Lifetime Expansion Pass"
L775[15:56:09] <Lizzy> ah, i htink mine just gives me all of the horizons stuff
L776[15:56:41] <Lizzy> can't see the lifetime one on steam
L777[15:57:29] * Forecaster shrugs
L778[15:57:40] <Forecaster> might have to get it from the frontier store
L779[15:58:05] <Forecaster> I love the interface improvements that's coming in 2.2
L780[15:58:18] <Forecaster> like the main station menu
L781[15:58:21] <Lizzy> yeah
L782[15:59:25] <Lizzy> (that yeah being for having to buy it from the fronteir store)
L783[16:02:48] <Lizzy> hmm, k seems the lifetime expansion pass isn't available at the moment :/
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L786[16:12:48] <Inari> i bought the lifetime expansion pass back when it came out \o/
L787[16:14:12] <Inari> %tell payonel https://i.imgur.com/AFZn41g.mp4
L788[16:14:13] <MichiBot> Inari: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L789[16:17:44] <Forecaster> me too :P
L790[16:18:15] <Forecaster> I hate my ctrl-s reflex sometimes...
L791[16:18:45] <Inari> hoping when planets fully release i will find fun in playing again :P
L792[16:19:58] <Forecaster> when I made the template for my new show I used the enter the gungeon one as a base to get the size right...
L793[16:20:31] <Forecaster> I just found out that I must have hit ctrl + s while doing that, and saved over the EtG template as well
L794[16:20:34] <Forecaster> -_-
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L796[16:24:53] * Lizzy yawns and curls up on vifino's lap
L797[16:25:01] * Lizzy falls asleeep
L798[16:29:09] <vifino> me pets Lizzy
L799[16:29:11] <vifino> q_q
L800[16:29:14] * vifino pets Lizzy
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L802[16:52:40] <Ember_Primrose> good night everybody
L803[16:52:50] <Miyoyo> nite
L804[16:52:57] <Ember_Primrose> nini
L805[16:53:05] <Miyoyo> nnnn
L806[17:01:56] <Mimiru> Night @Ember_Primrose
L807[17:02:12] <Izaya> fucking hell
L808[17:02:20] <Izaya> XScreenSaver fucks with my display settings
L809[17:02:34] <Izaya> so my leftmost monitor mirrors the middle one for no goddamn reason
L810[17:03:17] <Miyoyo> Welcome to the X Window system, made with bubblegum, clippers and hairclips
L811[17:03:39] <Izaya> And a bit of Duct Tape for good measure
L812[17:03:46] <Izaya> mostly to get people to shut up about it
L813[17:03:59] <Miyoyo> And spit on it to wash it clean
L814[17:05:12] <Miyoyo> If it doesn't work just add wheels
L815[17:05:56] <Miyoyo> After that if it doesn't work Take everything appart, put it back together and look at the 5 lbs of stuff that's not fitting anywhere
L816[17:06:00] <Miyoyo> Call it wayland
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L821[17:19:57] <CompanionCube> so.
L822[17:19:58] <CompanionCube> 'Encryption tools that keep your digital communications hidden from prying eyes are becoming more widespread, and Canadian police say they need a law that compels people to hand over their passwords so cops can access those communications.'
L823[17:21:23] <CompanionCube> Izaya: ^ :(
L824[17:24:52] <Skye> CompanionCube, there's already a law like that in the UK.
L825[17:25:03] <CompanionCube> Skye: yeah
L826[17:25:11] <CompanionCube> RIPA sucks. but it doesn't need to spread.
L827[17:29:03] <Izaya> why are there no privacy-friendly places?
L828[17:32:20] <CompanionCube> also
L829[17:32:31] <CompanionCube> https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2016/08/court-rules-isps-not-need-give-information-alleged-pirates-copyright-infringers/ this will be !!FUN!!
L830[17:39:51] <Miyoyo> God damnit
L831[17:39:58] <Miyoyo> UK,US,France,Canada
L832[17:40:01] <Miyoyo> Now what
L833[17:40:04] <Miyoyo> Belgium?
L834[17:41:24] <progwml6> in the US they can't force people to hand over their passwords its unconstitutional
L835[17:41:42] <progwml6> we have a right against self incrimination
L836[17:42:13] <Miyoyo> Well in the US they don't care they HAVE your passwords
L837[17:42:15] <Miyoyo> mosly
L838[17:42:19] <Miyoyo> mostly*
L839[17:42:37] <Miyoyo> 'Sides what can't 20 minutes and an old rusty pipe do?
L840[17:42:42] <Skye> hilariously enough, apparently that part of the constitution came from UK common law.
L841[17:43:16] <Miyoyo> My god the RIPA wikipedia page
L842[17:43:24] <Skye> ?
L843[17:43:47] <CompanionCube> Miyoyo: you think that's bad
L844[17:43:55] <Miyoyo> Teir controversies are so bad it's laughable
L845[17:43:59] <Miyoyo> Their*
L846[17:44:00] <CompanionCube> don't lookup the Investigatory Powers Bill
L847[17:44:05] <CompanionCube> Just don't.
L848[17:44:19] <Miyoyo> 2l8m8
L849[17:45:04] <CompanionCube> Can you say 'internet connection record' which a straight face
L850[17:45:12] <Miyoyo> Meh
L851[17:45:21] <Miyoyo> When you big brother enough
L852[17:45:24] <CompanionCube> on the scale of entire ISPs
L853[17:45:25] <Miyoyo> You can do abything
L854[17:45:49] <CompanionCube> I doubt the technical feasability of such records if you have to maintain them for a year
L855[17:45:52] <Miyoyo> This just looks like [Common Law] that breaches privacy
L856[17:46:21] <Miyoyo> Knowing my one-month history right now is
L857[17:46:35] <Miyoyo> 147 Mb
L858[17:46:44] <Miyoyo> Yeah that's about right
L859[17:46:51] <Miyoyo> A few Petabytes of data
L860[17:47:10] <CompanionCube> yep. Millions of customers...and that's just one ISP.
L861[17:47:20] <Miyoyo> This just proves one thing
L862[17:47:23] <Miyoyo> The people
L863[17:47:30] <Miyoyo> Currently at the top of countries
L864[17:47:40] <Miyoyo> don't know SHIT about anything post y2k
L865[17:47:51] <CompanionCube> Miyoyo: then you have the problems of extracting the data in the first place
L866[17:47:52] <Miyoyo> Except 9/11 and other terro-shit
L867[17:48:06] <CompanionCube> for example, how can you create internet connection records for UDP protocols/communications
L868[17:48:10] <Miyoyo> CompanionCube : Imagine searching for one specific adress in 2 pb of data?
L869[17:48:33] <Miyoyo> Well you can, but it's either spotty as fuck or it takes tons of space
L870[17:49:06] <Miyoyo> They aren't the NSA, and even the NSA doesn't keep tabs on all that
L871[17:49:18] <Miyoyo> Heck i'm not even sure google could pull it off
L872[17:49:27] <Miyoyo> Akamai maybe
L873[17:49:29] <Miyoyo> And even then
L874[17:49:42] <CompanionCube> Miyoyo: and yet, iirc the government is supposedly on the hook for paying for it
L875[17:50:12] <Miyoyo> Tchoo tchoo just a 5000 ton wallet with trillions of pounds passing trough
L876[17:50:30] <Skye> you know what would be funny?
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L878[17:50:36] <Miyoyo> No?
L879[17:50:52] <CompanionCube> Miyoyo: additionally, imagine how much of a hacking target these databases would be
L880[17:51:02] <Skye> the government giving up after it sees the true cost
L881[17:51:13] <Miyoyo> Skye: Heh
L882[17:51:28] <Miyoyo> CC: Facebook won't even hold a candle to it
L883[17:51:55] <CompanionCube> Skye: how many times did TT get hacked this year? 2, 3?
L884[17:52:00] <Miyoyo> TT?
L885[17:52:09] <CompanionCube> TalkTalk
L886[17:52:14] <CompanionCube> one of the bigger ISPs
L887[17:52:17] <Miyoyo> >Allow the police to see the "Internet connection records" without warrants
L888[17:52:35] <Miyoyo> Hello let me see what you do in the privacy of your own home without restrictions
L889[17:52:45] <Miyoyo> My god mafias will be all over this
L890[17:52:51] <Miyoyo> Imagine the CASH there is to make
L891[17:52:54] <Miyoyo> and the blackmail
L892[17:53:32] <Miyoyo> >create a new criminal offence for unlawfully accessing internet data
L893[17:53:34] <CompanionCube> it doesn't help that in the past, our current PM has support from withdrawing from the European Convention on Human Rights
L894[17:53:47] <CompanionCube> of course, they say they don't *anymore*
L895[17:54:05] <Miyoyo> Hello 'maam, we have a report that your computer beep booped wrong in the past week
L896[17:54:16] <Miyoyo> Well who cares
L897[17:54:36] <Miyoyo> in belgium our health minister is literally obese
L898[17:54:50] <Miyoyo> and we have a fucking neo-nazi party disguised as the NVA
L899[17:55:19] <Miyoyo> And our government isn't even a single party 'cause these fuckers weren't bothered to stop bitching after they failed the elections
L900[17:55:40] <CompanionCube> it could've been worse
L901[17:55:48] <Miyoyo> Mama merkel?
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L903[17:55:56] <CompanionCube> the main competitor for the PM job was someone who was compared to Thatcher and didn't mind it.
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L905[17:56:29] <Miyoyo> Can you give me a tl;dr on thatcher?
L906[17:56:44] <CompanionCube> not the most popular PM ever
L907[17:56:58] <CompanionCube> especially due to the 'poll tax'
L908[17:57:24] <Miyoyo> Looks like she went
L909[17:57:40] <Miyoyo> "OMG LOOK I'M THE FIRST WOMAN PM PLS LICK MY TOES"
L910[17:58:14] <Miyoyo> I mean who the fuck puts a plate on their birthplace anymore
L911[17:58:49] <Miyoyo> I mean she got at parliment at 34
L912[17:59:00] <Miyoyo> What kind of adults behaves like "Look i'm first in place"
L913[18:01:41] <Miyoyo> Trump probably
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L915[18:03:09] <Izaya> unpopular opinion: I liked Julia Gillard
L916[18:05:19] <Miyoyo> Izaya: Why is that unpopular? According to wikipeepia she seems pretty classic
L917[18:05:53] <Izaya> cause Australia
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L919[18:06:23] <Miyoyo> Nah but seriously, Except maybe for the drug thing I don't see why anyone would Specifically hate her
L920[18:07:28] <Miyoyo> (My god maggie deblock is 20 fkin stones)
L921[18:07:29] <Izaya> neither do I
L922[18:07:35] <Izaya> but people do anyway
L923[18:07:50] <Miyoyo> Just look at this
L924[18:07:56] <Miyoyo> then look at me in the eyes
L925[18:07:58] <Miyoyo> and tell me
L926[18:08:16] <Miyoyo> "She is a minister of public health"
L927[18:08:18] <Miyoyo> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/10/13/1413224178932_Image_galleryImage_05_Jun_2012_Brussels_Belg.JPG
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L929[18:09:17] <Izaya> I...
L930[18:09:20] <Izaya> I can't
L931[18:09:22] <Miyoyo> Heh
L932[18:09:25] <Miyoyo> I can't either
L933[18:09:29] <Miyoyo> But for MEME reasons
L934[18:09:39] <Miyoyo> she's the most popular politician in this country
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L949[19:13:41] <Miyoyo> I had the occasion of playing NMS today
L950[19:13:56] <Miyoyo> Five seconds of cheat engine and the fun was over
L951[19:14:21] <gamax92> So you ruined your experience by cheating and then found that you wern't having fun?
L952[19:14:22] <gamax92> makes sense
L953[19:14:26] <Miyoyo> Nah
L954[19:14:27] <Miyoyo> I played
L955[19:14:58] <Miyoyo> Got bored when I had to literally walk 20 minutes on a barren world to get an important ore
L956[19:15:00] <Miyoyo> Then back
L957[19:15:10] <Miyoyo> To discover that in the end
L958[19:15:28] <Miyoyo> you just hold both shoulder buttons to get from A to B
L959[19:15:37] <Miyoyo> and honestly that's about it
L960[19:15:51] <Miyoyo> otherwise it's just trading and mining
L961[19:15:56] <Miyoyo> exploring isn't even worth it
L962[19:16:12] <Miyoyo> After literally 8 planets I started to see patterns
L963[19:16:34] <Miyoyo> and after 12 I noticed that a ship costs between 500k credits to 2000k credits
L964[19:17:03] <Miyoyo> And exploring gets you (tops, when you explored an ENTIRE planet, which is about 12 hours) 200k credits
L965[19:17:19] <Miyoyo> Knowing that the objective is to get 18000 lightyears away
L966[19:17:30] <Miyoyo> your jumps are MAX 50ly on max upgrades
L967[19:17:46] <Miyoyo> and you need fuel that's, in stages of crafting
L968[19:18:11] <Miyoyo> Worthless->Worthless->Worthless->Worth 1 ton of pure fine gold
L969[19:18:28] <Miyoyo> I made it 400 ly
L970[19:18:30] <Miyoyo> then got bored
L971[19:18:34] <Miyoyo> and thought
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L973[19:18:48] <Miyoyo> "Hey this game isn't multiplayer cause sean lied"
L974[19:19:03] <Miyoyo> I got CE out and got me 9999999 credits in four searches
L975[19:19:13] <Miyoyo> They didn't even try
L976[19:19:51] <Miyoyo> And the inventory is incredibly small
L977[19:20:01] <Miyoyo> I mean, you can't even think about how small it is
L978[19:20:31] <Miyoyo> You've got about 8 materials that you need regularly (similar to wood or iron in minecraft)
L979[19:20:41] <Miyoyo> You start with about 16 slots
L980[19:20:47] <Miyoyo> Five of them already taken
L981[19:21:09] <Miyoyo> and the default max stack is between 200 or 500 depending on the material
L982[19:21:22] <Miyoyo> knowing that one source is about 70-120 material
L983[19:21:37] <Miyoyo> You just CAN'T mine shit and have fun doing it
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L988[19:26:49] <LordFokas> it's not depending on the material... stackable items stack to 250 on the inventory and 500 on the ship
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L991[19:28:02] <Miyoyo> fu
L992[19:28:14] <LordFokas> but the game is still terribly flawed
L993[19:28:20] <Miyoyo> What
L994[19:28:22] <Miyoyo> NMS?
L995[19:28:24] <LordFokas> ship controls are s**t
L996[19:28:25] <LordFokas> yes
L997[19:28:27] <Miyoyo> MAte
L998[19:28:32] <LordFokas> walking is to damn slow
L999[19:28:33] <Miyoyo> The ship is a fucking airglider
L1000[19:28:40] <Miyoyo> You can't touch the ground
L1001[19:28:45] <Miyoyo> and if you do you go straight trough
L1002[19:28:53] <LordFokas> the jetpack is pretty much just vertical
L1003[19:28:59] <Miyoyo> Sean is full of shit
L1004[19:29:10] <LordFokas> but you can make a lot of money on a single planet
L1005[19:29:21] <Miyoyo> And for some reason my french instincts make me pronounce sean like seam
L1006[19:29:27] <Miyoyo> but with an N
L1007[19:29:51] <LordFokas> I made 150k in a matter of 3 or 4 minutes
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L1009[19:30:02] <LordFokas> by mining a small Emeril vein
L1010[19:30:10] <Miyoyo> Yeah, but the problem is that
L1011[19:30:18] <Miyoyo> you get that much with a planet in 12 hours
L1012[19:30:29] <Miyoyo> this does not make exploration viable
L1013[19:30:36] <LordFokas> and where I am planets are full of it
L1014[19:30:58] <Miyoyo> I mean why stop and care about animals when you literally have huge shards of material you can destroy in 5 minutes with a decent mining beam
L1015[19:31:13] <LordFokas> yup
L1016[19:31:26] <LordFokas> why even explore
L1017[19:31:32] <GreaseMonkey> i'm not even french and my instincts think "seam with an n"
L1018[19:31:56] <Miyoyo> Look at this americans/(irish?)
L1019[19:32:07] <Miyoyo> SEAN - ShAuN
L1020[19:32:22] <Miyoyo> The E disapears and there's no reason to use a H or U sound
L1021[19:32:30] <Miyoyo> why ;_;
L1022[19:32:35] <Miyoyo> ;-;
L1023[19:32:40] <LordFokas> they tried to be KSP and Minecraft and a bunch of other games all at once
L1024[19:32:44] <LordFokas> over hyped
L1025[19:32:52] <LordFokas> and failed miserably at everything
L1026[19:33:08] <Miyoyo> M8, they didn't even try
L1027[19:33:20] <Miyoyo> I mean, the planets algorithm is breddy gud
L1028[19:33:25] <Miyoyo> but there's a core problem
L1029[19:33:28] <Miyoyo> nobody adresses
L1030[19:34:03] <Miyoyo> There's too much choice with, nearly ALWAYS, one choice sticking out like a sore thumb that says "HEY LOOK THE DEVS WANT YOU TO ACT LIKE THIS"
L1031[19:34:35] <LordFokas> when KSP has better resource management and MC has better controls than a game that is pretty much "KSP meets MC", you know something is terribly wrong at the core
L1032[19:34:41] <Miyoyo> Heh
L1033[19:34:49] <Miyoyo> But you can resume it in less than 2k chars
L1034[19:35:04] <LordFokas> not to mention TERRIBLE user interface
L1035[19:35:39] <LordFokas> waiting for huge text to scroll miserably slow... stupidly intrusive achievement notifications
L1036[19:35:45] <GreaseMonkey> how does the UI compare with, say, SS13?
L1037[19:36:06] <Miyoyo> Spawn->Fix ship->Get good mining lazer->Get cash->Get a high-tier ship->Mine more->get More cash->Buy ALL the antimatter/fuel cells->Skip over 20 systems -> mine more -> buy shit-> repeat -> get to the center of the universe -> repeat all steps 10 more time
L1038[19:36:30] <Miyoyo> It's way too different to be compared i'm afraid :/
L1039[19:36:35] <Miyoyo> But the UI is like
L1040[19:36:41] <LordFokas> there's a bit of a story going on
L1041[19:36:42] <Miyoyo> Some options you HAVE to hold a button down
L1042[19:36:51] <LordFokas> with the Atlas, and Nada & Polo
L1043[19:36:52] <Miyoyo> Some if you hold the button down nothing happen
L1044[19:36:53] <LordFokas> but meh
L1045[19:37:06] <Miyoyo> Also the fucking MOVING TEXT BOX OMG
L1046[19:37:19] <Miyoyo> Why can't the UI be static when I move my cursor
L1047[19:38:00] <Miyoyo> GreaseMonkey: The UI of SS13 is at least quick and usable
L1048[19:38:06] <LordFokas> Warframe did that with their UIs too... but it kinda feels nice
L1049[19:38:20] <Miyoyo> Yes, but it's not a damn HALF SCREEN OF MOVEMENT
L1050[19:38:25] <LordFokas> because you see your character looking around at the actual GUI
L1051[19:38:26] <Miyoyo> It's a little effect
L1052[19:38:39] <LordFokas> that is, in all effects, an hologram
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L1054[19:39:12] <GreaseMonkey> it also kinda adds to the suspense when you're getting chased and you have to quickly hack a door
L1055[19:39:12] <LordFokas> and in that case it's the entire screen on movement
L1056[19:39:19] <LordFokas> except it was well executed
L1057[19:39:22] <LordFokas> unlike NMS
L1058[19:39:41] <Miyoyo> One problem of NMS is like a lot of products that want to be more than one thing
L1059[19:39:43] <GreaseMonkey> so, worse resource management than KSP, worse controls than MC, and worse UI than SS13
L1060[19:39:52] <Miyoyo> It tries being two/three.more things
L1061[19:40:01] <Miyoyo> and fails at being ALL of them
L1062[19:40:12] <GreaseMonkey> it probably wasn't even trying to be SS13
L1063[19:40:17] <Miyoyo> Exactly like most "For the entire family" movies
L1064[19:40:25] <Miyoyo> No, it has NO inspiration of SS14
L1065[19:40:33] <Miyoyo> like, it's not usable
L1066[19:40:45] <Miyoyo> where SS13, even if not "Designed"
L1067[19:40:49] <Miyoyo> is at least usable
L1068[19:40:56] <LordFokas> let's talk about something different
L1069[19:41:01] <LordFokas> Solar Systems
L1070[19:41:02] <LordFokas> :p
L1071[19:41:12] <Miyoyo> >UGLY LIGHT BOXES
L1072[19:41:18] <LordFokas> planets are all bunched up together
L1073[19:41:21] <Miyoyo> Really sean is a retard
L1074[19:41:28] <LordFokas> and their star is distant
L1075[19:41:41] <LordFokas> it's not even like their orbits are aligned
L1076[19:41:45] <Miyoyo> The star is literally a Light env object
L1077[19:42:02] <LordFokas> it's more like they all share the same damn orbit, on the same damn spot
L1078[19:42:13] <Miyoyo> They don't even move
L1079[19:42:36] <Achai> (Sean promised realistic planet movement, sun, realistic dynamic skybox, etc.)
L1080[19:42:45] <Miyoyo> >UGLY LIGHT BOX MEMES
L1081[19:43:02] <LordFokas> and you move from planet to planet and rendezvouz with orbital stations by, surprise surprise, aiming at them and flying really fast
L1082[19:43:10] <Achai> Looking at screenshots the lighting looks like a third party Gamecube game
L1083[19:43:20] <LordFokas> which, as a KSP player, really triggers me
L1084[19:43:24] <Achai> like shitty third party gc game
L1085[19:43:24] <Miyoyo> The lightning is literally
L1086[19:43:27] <Miyoyo> nonexistant
L1087[19:43:35] <Miyoyo> I played a shit ton of GC
L1088[19:43:36] <Achai> like Ed Edd Eddy Misadventures lighting
L1089[19:43:38] <Miyoyo> and I'm sure
L1090[19:43:46] <Miyoyo> Rayman HH had way better shit
L1091[19:43:55] <Miyoyo> Also the god damned pop-in
L1092[19:44:20] <LordFokas> and don't get me started on atmospheric reentry
L1093[19:44:30] <LordFokas> complete BS
L1094[19:44:46] <Miyoyo> Is there even a rentry sim, except for the flame sounds?
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L1096[19:45:09] <LordFokas> also getting lift and going suborbital is the exact same BS
L1097[19:45:18] <LordFokas> except without flames
L1098[19:45:52] <Miyoyo> I'm gonna try to exit the local verse sandbox
L1099[19:46:01] <Miyoyo> Maybe I can do it in less than 20m
L1100[19:46:14] <Achai> http://imgur.com/a/17IRL the problem with the lighting is lack of ambient light
L1101[19:46:20] <Achai> only a directional light
L1102[19:46:23] <Achai> like a shitty stage play
L1103[19:46:33] <LordFokas> because everybody knows those "flames" (not actual fire btw) are caused by descending into the planet and not by the extreme air compression, right?
L1104[19:46:44] <Miyoyo> Kek
L1105[19:46:53] <Achai> Also the texture detail looks like they put shit in a blender
L1106[19:46:55] <Miyoyo> >Friction is literally to hard to emulate
L1107[19:47:42] <LordFokas> and once you go orbital
L1108[19:47:54] <Miyoyo> My god the pulse engine
L1109[19:48:01] <Miyoyo> >NEVER GO INTO AN ASTEROID
L1110[19:48:02] <LordFokas> you also notice asteroids are super realistic
L1111[19:48:10] <Miyoyo> >200m pop in$
L1112[19:48:13] <Miyoyo> >HG pls
L1113[19:48:13] * LordFokas coughs sarcastically
L1114[19:49:02] <Miyoyo> I also love how sean hates mods
L1115[19:49:18] <LordFokas> that's going to help the game a lot
L1116[19:49:18] <Miyoyo> He "fears" that people are going to take apart his "creation"
L1117[19:49:32] <LordFokas> he could have been lucky
L1118[19:49:35] <Miyoyo> M8 there already are tons of mods that are out
L1119[19:49:45] <Miyoyo> their packing format got figured out in a week
L1120[19:49:52] <LordFokas> allow people to mod easily, and people might fix his shit
L1121[19:49:58] <Miyoyo> and their weaksauce resource loader doesn't even check CRC
L1122[19:50:05] <LordFokas> it'd be MC all over again :D
L1123[19:50:07] <Miyoyo> He's going bethsoft on us
L1124[19:51:46] <Miyoyo> I just got attacked for my cargo
L1125[19:51:50] <Miyoyo> I have the base ship
L1126[19:51:55] <Miyoyo> They didn't even get my shiedl
L1127[19:53:00] <LordFokas> I could have bought a better ship already
L1128[19:53:12] <LordFokas> but I'm saving up for a ship with a huge storage
L1129[19:53:27] <LordFokas> I want to get 24 slots right away
L1130[19:53:49] <LordFokas> (I know a game where you have 27 in your POCKET)
L1131[19:53:56] <Miyoyo> I heard max is 35
L1132[19:54:24] <LordFokas> well actually, 36 in your pocket, since you have the hotbar :p
L1133[19:54:36] <LordFokas> which is like, 2 ships
L1134[19:55:00] <LordFokas> and even that is insufficient once you start getting mods and carry 10 tools on you
L1135[19:55:12] <LordFokas> which is exactly what NMS does with you
L1136[19:55:25] <LordFokas> here's 15 slots
L1137[19:55:46] <LordFokas> also here's 5 things that you need to have on you at all times and consume slots
L1138[19:56:23] <LordFokas> and then you need to keep like, 1 oxide and 2 isotopes on you
L1139[19:58:18] <Miyoyo> And fucking takeoff fuel
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L1141[19:58:29] <Miyoyo> WHY DO WE NEED 3 DIFFERENT FUELS FFS
L1142[19:58:53] <Miyoyo> OH GOD
L1143[19:58:56] <Miyoyo> THE RENDERTARGETS
L1144[19:59:30] <Miyoyo> They start to flicker in and out of reality when you get far enough of the center of -r-e-a-l-i-t-y- the system
L1145[19:59:48] <LordFokas> you don't need 3 fuels
L1146[20:00:00] <Miyoyo> Ye
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L1148[20:00:06] <Miyoyo> Pulse, jumper and hyperdrive
L1149[20:00:21] <LordFokas> you can power everything on Thamium9 if you want, plus some warp cells
L1150[20:00:25] <Miyoyo> well, not jumper but that takeoff thingie
L1151[20:00:28] <Miyoyo> oh
L1152[20:00:50] <LordFokas> except Plutonium is stupidly more common
L1153[20:00:54] <Miyoyo> My launch thruster doesn't like Thorium9
L1154[20:01:07] <Miyoyo> Thamium... this shit in space
L1155[20:01:49] <LordFokas> another stupid thing is the ridiculous amount of fuel the launch thruster uses
L1156[20:02:16] <Miyoyo> I was baffled that you need at least 20-25% but you keep 16% after a 27% launch
L1157[20:02:21] <LordFokas> for something that can barely move your lightweight ship around it uses A LOT of fuel
L1158[20:03:15] <LordFokas> which also makes it really expensive to run it on Thamium9
L1159[20:03:55] <Miyoyo> This game
L1160[20:04:00] <Miyoyo> is shit at handling render targets
L1161[20:04:15] <LordFokas> I bet people could mod the hell out of KSP and turn it into a better game than NMS in every single damn aspect
L1162[20:04:16] <Miyoyo> I'm literally 20hours away from the "Center" of the system
L1163[20:04:27] <Miyoyo> Take Elite dangerous
L1164[20:04:34] <Miyoyo> Add a bit of story here and there
L1165[20:04:40] <Miyoyo> Simplify the gameplay a lil bit
L1166[20:04:42] <Miyoyo> and boom
L1167[20:04:46] <Miyoyo> NMS 2020
L1168[20:05:33] <LordFokas> anothother funny thing
L1169[20:05:34] <Miyoyo> I'm looking directly away from the space station but the space station icon from the UI is flashing
L1170[20:05:37] <LordFokas> another*
L1171[20:06:05] <LordFokas> the max speed in space is the same as in a gigantic planet at sea level
L1172[20:06:17] <Miyoyo> ?
L1173[20:06:29] <Miyoyo> Ah, without pulse
L1174[20:06:41] <Miyoyo> This game's airship handling is sshit
L1175[20:06:51] <LordFokas> because gravity doesn't matter and the thing gases and dusts in space give you clearly the same drag as a dense atmosphere at sea level
L1176[20:06:52] <Miyoyo> it doesn't even support HOTASes
L1177[20:07:13] <Miyoyo> You know, I've found living things in atmosphereless planets
L1178[20:07:18] <Miyoyo> cause fuck breathing
L1179[20:07:22] <LordFokas> the ship visibility is also barely existent
L1180[20:07:40] <LordFokas> want to see where you're landing? nope
L1181[20:07:49] <Miyoyo> At least you can go to 100vof
L1182[20:07:52] <Miyoyo> fov*
L1183[20:08:44] <Miyoyo> also, you CAN'T stop in space
L1184[20:08:50] <Miyoyo> minimum 30u/s
L1185[20:09:52] <Miyoyo> The game breaks when you get away from the planets
L1186[20:10:23] <Miyoyo> right now my UI is breaking, my rendertargets flicker in and out of existence and the fucking post-rendering shaders FAILs
L1187[20:11:36] <Miyoyo> I'm also at the edge of the skybox (which seems to move with the player) because planets disapear behind the sky where I'm at
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L1189[20:16:23] <Miyoyo> Sweet
L1190[20:16:30] <Miyoyo> When you die, you loose ALL your cargo
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L1199[20:36:05] <Miyoyo> Looks like opening the UI during an FTL jump breaks it
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