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L9[00:33:42] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/VEK2y3g.png
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L12[00:35:56] <gamax92> Mimiru: Cannot download from eos over ipv6
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L18[00:45:41] <TheFox|Mobile> Tired as hell, check
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L21[00:52:26] <gamax92> Added in computer.beep support for all platforms on OCEmu
L22[00:54:10] <gamax92> good night
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L27[01:11:50] <gamax92> notes to self: updater, migrate to correct paths, tiny hacky svn exporter
L28[01:12:16] * TheFox|droid high fives gamax
L29[01:12:26] <TheFox|droid> Yeah for new features
L30[01:12:42] <gamax92> yay
L31[01:12:52] <gamax92> but good night now
L32[01:13:51] <TheFox|droid> Good night
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L35[01:23:31] <scj643> http://www.twitch.tv/mert7ate9
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L40[02:29:58] <Shawn|4650M> should I start with tier 3?
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L42[02:30:35] <Forecaster> does it matter?
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L51[04:02:13] <MalkContent> stupid question, but if i were to make a pr, against which version should i do that? latest, or all applicable master branches?
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L54[04:05:32] <Forecaster> MalkContent: you might have to %tell Sangar that and wait for a reply
L55[04:07:04] <Elizabeth> MalkContent, usually the Master-1.7.10 branch is where most people submit their PR's, Sangar then moves the code arround accordinly
L56[04:07:14] <Forecaster> or that
L57[04:07:18] <MalkContent> i don't know what %tell means and google didn't help. irc memo?
L58[04:07:33] <Forecaster> %tell MalkContent This is a message you'll get eventually
L59[04:07:33] <MichiBot> Forecaster: MalkContent will be notified of this message when next seen.
L60[04:07:40] <MalkContent> a. excellent :)
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L64[04:46:11] <MalkContent> after being sidetracked by new features during checking if my issue was still a problem... did not know this was scala ^^ well this is gonna be a learning experience
L65[04:48:25] * Forecaster is an idiot -_-
L66[04:53:03] <MalkContent> Ok.
L67[04:56:06] *** gAway2002 is now known as g
L68[04:57:21] <Forecaster> I just overwrote a column in my database with the wrong data >:
L69[04:57:22] <Forecaster> so now I have to restore it manually from the dates on youtube
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L71[04:59:43] <Forecaster> and also a lot of video entries are missing and I have no clue why D:
L72[05:21:44] <Ender> #p Lizzy
L73[05:21:45] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.751591479 Seconds passed.
L74[05:21:49] <Ender> janus pls
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L78[05:28:49] <MalkContent> ugh. this was easier in my head and now i gotta actually think early in the morning
L79[05:31:51] <MalkContent> you know how if you shift-click stuff into a case inventory, a tier1 card would end up in a tier3 slot
L80[05:32:36] <MalkContent> I thought I'd fix that by changing shift-click behaviour
L81[05:32:52] <MalkContent> but that wouldn't affect filling a case by hopper
L82[05:35:22] <MalkContent> so i went "ah, I'll just change the order the inventory is arranged in and hope that a t3 card in a t1 slot still would work because code wouldn't check for correct slot when looking for components"
L83[05:36:18] <MalkContent> yknow, to keep backwards compatibility
L84[05:37:23] <Lumindia> heh
L85[05:37:55] <MalkContent> and now i just got brain spaghetti about gui/container behaviour vs inventory behaviour
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L87[05:44:20] <Forecaster> :P
L88[05:44:34] <Forecaster> I'm having "fun" doing data entry
L89[05:44:40] <Forecaster> it's slow and tedious
L90[05:44:52] <Forecaster> mostly because the source data is inconveneient
L91[05:45:00] <Forecaster> inconvenient*
L92[05:48:08] <MalkContent> oc have any plans of using inventoryhandler at some point?
L93[05:48:17] <Forecaster> no idea
L94[05:48:25] <MalkContent> cause i could just wait for that and have it easy ^^
L95[05:55:59] <SpaceWolfve> You could get a robot which puts in t3 card fiest and going down to t2/1
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L97[06:04:04] <MalkContent> sure. already got that.
L98[06:08:18] <Inari> %tell payonel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi1vkHV8-xg
L99[06:08:20] <MichiBot> Inari: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L100[06:08:21] <MichiBot> funny cat kneading itself | length: 49s | Likes: 119 Dislikes: 1 Views: 18647 | by Joe Rabe
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L102[06:10:50] <WatchtowerOrator> Time for a new episode from Forecaster! You're welcome!
L103[06:10:50] <WatchtowerOrator> https://youtu.be/LkrTgRYIlk0 - Modded Minecraft [Episode 172] - Railway Expansions
L104[06:10:50] <WatchtowerOrator> Tags on this video: OpenComputers,Building,Railcraft,Programming,Tracks,Minecarts,Tablet,OC-Minecarts
L105[06:10:51] <MichiBot> Modded LetsPlay Episode 172 | length: 38m 2s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by Forecaster
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L107[06:12:36] <Inari> %tell payonel https://i.imgur.com/AzRqJeo.jpg
L108[06:12:36] <MichiBot> Inari: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L109[06:13:05] <Inari> %tell payonel actaully, just have the whole dump :P doesnt only have cats though xD https://imgur.com/gallery/qPkpT
L110[06:13:05] <MichiBot> Inari: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L111[06:22:08] <Forecaster> how do random db entries just disappear D:<
L112[06:22:08] * Forecaster grumbles
L113[06:23:01] <Inari> Forecaster: they do not
L114[06:23:33] <Shawn|4650M> what does one call a candleabra hanging from a ceiling?
L115[06:23:41] <Forecaster> they do >:
L116[06:23:51] <Inari> Forecaster: nah
L117[06:23:57] <Forecaster> presumably because something went wrong somewhere
L118[06:23:59] <Forecaster> >:
L119[06:24:04] <Inari> :P
L120[06:24:07] <Inari> so "not just"
L121[06:24:11] <Inari> *not "not just"
L122[06:24:15] <Inari> er
L123[06:24:16] <Inari> whatever
L124[06:25:27] <Forecaster> it's "just" because I don't know how or when it happened
L125[06:26:03] <Inari> Schrödingers database
L126[06:27:38] <Forecaster> at least I *can* restore the data I suppose
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L129[06:37:34] <Ember_Primrose> I'M ALIVE
L130[06:37:50] <Forecaster> yaaay
L131[06:37:50] <Forecaster> ember is back
L132[06:38:01] <MalkContent> http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/c4/c4cd3f925f6178c2a01049ccace71cee1380d071067066948d8aada98802ff0c.jpg
L133[06:38:07] <Ember_Primrose> i had a LOT of fun yesterday
L134[06:38:20] <Ember_Primrose> turn out dnd thing was a setup
L135[06:38:31] <Forecaster> :O
L136[06:38:35] <Forecaster> for a heist?
L137[06:38:46] <Forecaster> a great ol caper?
L138[06:38:58] <Ember_Primrose> my friends who couldn't come to my bday in december held a lan party
L139[06:39:00] <Ember_Primrose> \o/
L140[06:39:05] <Forecaster> ooo
L141[06:39:20] <Ember_Primrose> and we had access to TENET
L142[06:39:38] <Ember_Primrose> tenet is a 1Gbps line
L143[06:39:42] <Ember_Primrose> :3
L144[06:39:48] <Forecaster> :D
L145[06:40:20] <Ember_Primrose> oh Forecaster i have a suggestion for a game to stream
L146[06:40:38] <Ember_Primrose> how about warframe?
L147[06:41:09] <Forecaster> hm, I dunno
L148[06:41:13] <Forecaster> not really my kind of game
L149[06:43:13] <Inari> http://discordnsfw-inari.rhcloud.com/i.imgur.com/Lecwje2.jpg disturbing
L150[06:43:27] <Ember_Primrose> :O
L151[06:43:31] <Ember_Primrose> im mean
L152[06:43:36] <Ember_Primrose> nijas in space?
L153[06:43:42] <Ember_Primrose> o/ Inari
L154[06:43:54] <Inari> ohi
L155[06:46:03] <Forecaster> it's not the theme, it's the game itself
L156[06:48:27] <Forecaster> not particularly interested in ftp action games
L157[06:49:44] <Izaya> OSS FPS games?
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L160[06:57:48] <vifino> I got myself one of /the evil ones/.
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L162[06:58:06] <vifino> It is scary and I am afraid it will set my flat on fire.
L163[06:58:41] <vifino> I am also pretty sure it will eat paper, a lot.
L164[06:59:16] <vifino> Izaya: Have you had an experience with such things?
L165[06:59:41] <Izaya> Printers?
L166[06:59:44] <vifino> I mean the evil things that set burn and eat paper and also serveral expensive liquids.
L167[06:59:50] * vifino shudders
L168[06:59:55] <vifino> Yes, these ones.
L169[07:00:19] <vifino> s/set //
L170[07:00:19] <MichiBot> <vifino> I mean the evil things that burn and eat paper and also serveral expensive liquids.
L171[07:00:22] <Izaya> Thought from the first part of the description you meant Lizzy
L172[07:00:32] <vifino> lo
L173[07:00:33] <vifino> lol*
L174[07:00:44] <vifino> Lizzy isn't scary.
L175[07:00:57] <Izaya> But uh, I try to avoid printers as much as possible
L176[07:01:24] <Izaya> I have a thermal printer
L177[07:01:34] <Izaya> And a broken line printer
L178[07:01:36] <Izaya> However
L179[07:01:37] <vifino> It's brand implies that it has heavy artillery.
L180[07:01:56] <Izaya> I would recommend you perform an exorcism
L181[07:02:36] <Izaya> Set it on fire in your bathtub.
L182[07:02:45] <Izaya> If that doesn't work, smash it
L183[07:02:53] <vifino> Instructions? I also would think a refurbished one would have already been exorcised.
L184[07:03:04] <vifino> Sounds like a plan.
L185[07:09:27] <Forecaster> :I
L186[07:09:31] <Forecaster> bnc plz
L187[07:09:52] <Lizzy> vifino, are you sure?
L188[07:10:00] <Lizzy> Forecaster, host is having issues again ¬_¬
L189[07:10:13] <Lizzy> not much i'ma be able ot do about it today
L190[07:10:46] <Forecaster> at least irssi isn't spamming names anymore :P
L191[07:10:58] <Forecaster> glad I turned that off
L192[07:11:40] <clever> Izaya: https://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/2kl4ou/tales_from_the_printer_guy_do_me_a_solid/
L193[07:12:30] <Izaya> :D TFTS
L194[07:17:10] <clever> the pro's for solid ink printers, insanely high DPI and printing speed
L195[07:17:16] <clever> the cons: never move it while on
L196[07:41:12] <Ember_Primrose> yay dc
L197[07:43:18] <Lizzy> #p
L198[07:43:19] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.141013926 Seconds passed.
L199[07:43:39] *** LordFokas|out is now known as LordFokas
L200[07:43:45] <Lizzy> OMg
L201[07:43:46] <LordFokas> heyo o/
L202[07:43:52] <Lizzy> ohai
L203[07:43:56] * LordFokas hugs Lizzy
L204[07:44:04] * Lizzy hugs LordFokas
L205[07:44:18] <Lizzy> How have you been? been a while since you were online :P
L206[07:47:12] * Lizzy prods LordFokas
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L208[07:48:42] <Ember_Primrose> #p
L209[07:48:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.214305891 Seconds passed.
L210[07:56:31] * Lizzy is aparrently a butt
L211[07:57:13] * Lizzy butts vifino
L212[07:57:23] <vifino> l-lewd
L213[07:57:29] * vifino butts Lizzy
L214[07:57:43] * Forecaster butts in
L215[07:57:50] * Lizzy pushes Forecaster out
L216[07:57:54] <Forecaster> aw
L217[07:57:58] <Forecaster> :P
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L220[08:19:32] <LordFokas> I was online just last night :p
L221[08:19:52] <LordFokas> but I figured I'd try logging back in
L222[08:20:06] <LordFokas> since the server changed I couldn't log in
L223[08:20:31] <LordFokas> turns out it was my client not acknowledging the domain name change :p
L224[08:20:49] * LordFokas shakes fist at HexChat
L225[08:21:02] <Ember_Primrose> ?
L226[08:21:23] <Ember_Primrose> ohno
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L231[08:52:30] <LordFokas> well I g2g
L232[08:52:53] <Lizzy> LordFokas, the domain hasn't changed in a while....
L233[08:52:57] * LordFokas got a laptop to dismantle (and a screen transplant to perform) with *le gf* :)
L234[08:53:06] <Lizzy> cool
L235[08:53:14] <LordFokas> yeah it was when you changed to znc.stuff :p
L236[08:53:55] <Lizzy> ah
L237[08:54:08] <Lizzy> oh, i guess you were still using just theender.net
L238[08:54:21] <Lizzy> which now doesn't have A/AAAA records on it
L239[08:54:26] <LordFokas> I used it until I could no more :p
L240[08:54:28] <Lizzy> %lookup theender.net
L241[08:54:31] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for theender.net 149.56.6.196
L242[08:54:44] <Lizzy> %lookup znc.theender.net
L243[08:54:44] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for znc.theender.net 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1
L244[08:55:03] <Lizzy> i should probably add the A/AAAA records to the base domain
L245[08:55:29] <Lizzy> anyway, laptop put away time
L246[08:55:47] <Lizzy> so i can be ready and packed for the journey home
L247[08:55:53] <LordFokas> have fun y'all o/
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L253[09:36:14] <S3> what is everyone up to these days?
L254[09:36:42] * Forecaster is still busy manually restoring a database
L255[09:36:44] <Forecaster> fun stuff
L256[09:37:47] <MalkContent> enjoying a lazy/groggy early autumn day with the perfect breeze, cloudy darkness and some light drizzle
L257[09:38:58] <payonel> TheFox: datacards? sup?
L258[09:39:08] <payonel> Inari: you're the best :D
L259[09:39:19] <S3> drinking grog and being lazy?
L260[09:40:00] <Forecaster> but what about your nanomachines? D:
L261[09:40:22] <S3> Forecaster: manually restoring...? is this SL?
L262[09:40:26] <S3> you don't have a dump?
L263[09:40:32] <S3> SQL*
L264[09:40:40] <Forecaster> I don't
L265[09:41:11] <Forecaster> if I did I wouldn't be doing this :P
L266[09:44:42] <S3> then I call fail on admin
L267[09:44:45] <S3> and say wipe it
L268[09:45:07] <Forecaster> how would wiping it help...
L269[09:45:46] <S3> because it will encourage the admin not to fuck up so bad next time
L270[09:45:53] <MalkContent> i think it's along the lines of "put the poor sick thing out of its misery"
L271[09:46:03] <S3> ^
L272[09:46:04] <S3> lol
L273[09:46:07] <MalkContent> i don't agree though :P
L274[09:46:14] <Forecaster> it's my database :P
L275[09:46:21] <Forecaster> I'm "the admin"
L276[09:46:22] <S3> RED ALERT
L277[09:46:29] <S3> FAIL ADMIN ALERT
L278[09:46:30] <S3> xd
L279[09:46:40] <S3> wipe in 10 seconds..
L280[09:46:42] <S3> 9
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L282[09:50:39] <Forecaster> S3 as quit unexpectedly, please apply boot to the head to reboot
L283[09:51:32] <TheElix> Hi guys, I am new to OpenComputers, and I need help because Computers have Typing lag, and I don't know how to fix this :/
L284[09:51:33] * S3 has quit (Lost terminal)
L285[09:51:53] <Forecaster> TheElix: use an external editor
L286[09:52:09] <TheElix> Oh,right!
L287[09:52:15] <TheElix> Thank you :D
L288[09:52:16] <S3> TheElix: Computer Craft is the same way, in multiplayer it's REALLY bad
L289[09:52:36] <TheElix> The problem is that I'm playing in SP
L290[09:52:38] <Forecaster> there's a config option you need to change though
L291[09:52:48] <S3> there's a small ammount in SP
L292[09:52:48] <Forecaster> otherwise you'll have to reload the world after every change
L293[09:52:57] <S3> oh yeah the caching stuff
L294[09:53:02] <S3> you'll need to disable the file caching
L295[09:53:20] <Forecaster> bufferChanges=false
L296[09:53:24] <S3> that's it
L297[09:53:25] <Forecaster> it'll be true by default
L298[09:53:47] <TheElix> Done
L299[09:53:54] <TheElix> Thanks guys
L300[09:54:16] <Forecaster> no problem
L301[09:54:20] <S3> LOL
L302[09:54:24] <S3> I just fucked up
L303[09:54:38] <S3> bash-4.2$ perl init.lua
L304[09:54:40] * Forecaster presses the admin fail button
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L306[09:54:59] <Forecaster> :P
L307[09:55:05] <S3> I dunno why I did that
L308[09:55:20] <S3> but the result is kind of cool
L309[09:55:46] <S3> http://hastebin.com/ebimayiyej.rb
L310[09:56:15] <Forecaster> :P
L311[09:56:49] <S3> Oh I found out why, because of this message:
L312[09:56:57] <S3> THIS FILE IS ONLY PRESENT FOR COMPATABILITY WITH INIT.LUA BASED OC BOOTABLE
L313[09:56:57] <S3> LOADERS. IT IS A MODIFIED DUPLICATE OF /SBIN/LOADER. IF YOU DO NOT HAVE SUCH A
L314[09:56:57] <S3> SYSTEM, THIS FILE MAY BE SAFELY REMOVED TO CONSERVE DISK SPACE.
L315[09:56:58] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym
L316[09:57:03] <S3> oh god irccloud you suck
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L318[09:57:34] <S3> it thought /sbin/loader was a regex
L319[09:57:40] * g looks at EnderBot2
L320[09:57:41] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Y-JjWE3Rw
L321[09:57:41] <MichiBot> Wolfenstein®: The Old Blood Grammar-Nazi Nazi | length: 44s | Likes: 405 Dislikes: 2 Views: 46238 | by PheistEwon
L322[09:59:11] <MalkContent> what's that about the caching stuff?
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L324[09:59:32] <MalkContent> for singleplayer only?
L325[09:59:39] <S3> MalkContent: oc caches files on non raw disks
L326[10:00:04] * MalkContent blinks
L327[10:00:20] <Forecaster> no, it applies to servers as well
L328[10:00:37] <S3> I never said anything about servers
L329[10:00:41] <MalkContent> i don't understand what that means precisely
L330[10:00:48] <MalkContent> i mean i know what caching is
L331[10:00:58] <Forecaster> S3 was @ MalkContent
L332[10:01:18] <S3> Forecaster: my os, uses unmanaged disks in OC
L333[10:01:27] <S3> I have a custom partition table, etc
L334[10:01:49] <S3> because it's actually faster than managed
L335[10:02:18] <S3> since instead of caching files on oc, I cache sectors so there's less hard disk writes :D
L336[10:02:22] <Forecaster> I didn't ask about that but okay :P
L337[10:02:22] <S3> which are slow in oc
L338[10:02:24] <MalkContent> i'm particularly confused because i don't know if raw disk means ingame disks or the disk you got the game on
L339[10:02:27] <S3> lol
L340[10:02:53] <S3> MalkContent: no if you right click a disk (don't do it unles syou know what you're doing) you can set a disk to unmanaged mode
L341[10:03:02] <S3> which I just happen to call raw for some reason
L342[10:03:22] <S3> it just makes that oc stores it as a gzipped blob of data
L343[10:03:48] <S3> so that disk operations are more binary handle
L344[10:03:49] <S3> handled*
L345[10:04:08] <S3> it allows me to have FAT16 filesystems, etc on OC
L346[10:04:14] <MalkContent> so rather than a filesystem you got a tape with 1s n 0s?
L347[10:04:21] <S3> pretty much
L348[10:04:46] <S3> my os uses SOPT for partitioning and I'm implementing Magik6k's MRFS for a filesystem
L349[10:05:02] <S3> MRFS will eventually be kind of like lvm / zfs but it's simple
L350[10:05:11] <S3> at least, that's what Magik6k intended iirc
L351[10:05:36] <Inari> http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread237245/pg1 *shakes head* why..
L352[10:05:45] <MalkContent> my day is too lazy to google all that or to ask for explanations :D
L353[10:06:19] <MalkContent> i take it that somehow an unmanaged disk will need to be completely cached or something
L354[10:06:29] <MalkContent> and editing it probably lags the game
L355[10:06:50] <MalkContent> just wildly guessing
L356[10:09:10] <Forecaster> meh
L357[10:09:28] * Forecaster ignores stupid conspiracy theorising
L358[10:09:44] <S3> MalkContent: no.. there's no caching on unmanaged disks.. I do it manually, I cache the sectors in exchange for valuable ram
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L360[10:10:35] <S3> MalkContent: what we were originally talking about, was that witrh managed drives, which is default, files are cached, so that when you replace them from outside of OC, it's not going to take effect for a while
L361[10:10:53] <S3> but you can disable that
L362[10:13:53] <MalkContent> aaaaaa
L363[10:14:34] <S3> I need to figure out which of 1000 directories is my os's code
L364[10:14:38] <S3> which is most up to date
L365[10:14:47] * Kimiro drinks Malk, rich in Vitamin R
L366[10:16:32] <S3> vifino: woah, found your forth interpreter in /boot/loader
L367[10:16:39] <S3> must be the right one lol
L368[10:18:51] <gamax92> S3: boats
L369[10:19:17] <Forecaster> /boats/loader
L370[10:19:37] <gamax92> Forecaster: oh if you only knew...
L371[10:19:50] <S3> right
L372[10:19:53] <S3> boatloader
L373[10:20:26] <Forecaster> maybe I do and you just don't know that I know :3
L374[10:21:30] <S3> huh. I can't seem to find it
L375[10:24:30] <gamax92> S3: How to get a list of all files and directories on a drive sorted by size from smallest to largest
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L377[10:25:54] <S3> well you could do something like this gamax92: du | sort -n -r
L378[10:26:03] <gamax92> S3: you're so close!
L379[10:26:20] <gamax92> du -bax |sort -n
L380[10:26:23] <S3> -h would help
L381[10:27:04] <S3> gamax92: I'd try du -hax | sort -n instead
L382[10:27:08] <gamax92> I'd not
L383[10:27:13] <S3> try it :)
L384[10:27:15] <gamax92> no
L385[10:27:45] <gamax92> why would I want that so that 1.6G shows up less than 20M
L386[10:28:10] <S3> you know
L387[10:28:18] <S3> I have thousands and thousands of empty files..
L388[10:28:37] <S3> LOL
L389[10:28:40] <clever> du --max=1 -h -x | sort -h
L390[10:28:42] <S3> most of them in openwrt-src
L391[10:29:04] <clever> S3: -h is a usefull sorting option, its aware of the size postfixes that -h does elsewhere
L392[10:29:18] <clever> and du -x stops it from crossing partition boundaries
L393[10:29:27] <gamax92> and -a is for showing files too
L394[10:29:28] <clever> so it wont bother you about the 4tb drive when your trying to fix the 80gig drive
L395[10:29:32] <gamax92> not just directories
L396[10:29:57] <clever> ah, i can see that being usefull to mix with --max=1
L397[10:30:19] <S3> you don't have to suply max though if you arrange how you're searching
L398[10:30:36] <gamax92> what does max do?
L399[10:30:40] <gamax92> it's not listed in the man page
L400[10:30:42] <clever> gamax92: max depth it prints to
L401[10:30:54] <gamax92> oh, that's not helpful then
L402[10:31:17] <clever> it cuts down on the SNR i find
L403[10:31:22] <S3> yo udon' need --max if you use -s
L404[10:31:23] <clever> if i want more depth, cd, and re-run
L405[10:31:32] <S3> if you do it right
L406[10:31:46] <S3> for example
L407[10:31:47] <S3> du -sh /* | sort -n
L408[10:31:57] <clever> * wont get hidden directories
L409[10:32:02] <S3> right
L410[10:32:15] <gamax92> clever: I run this from /
L411[10:32:17] <S3> but if you just need a quick representation of where all your data went
L412[10:32:20] <gamax92> all it would tell me is /home
L413[10:32:21] <gamax92> :P
L414[10:32:55] <Magik6k> S3, wee, someone actually found time to implement this
L415[10:33:06] <clever> gamax92: i also | tee du.1 when doing this
L416[10:33:11] <clever> to keep a history of which directories are big
L417[10:33:17] <S3> Magik6k: wha?
L418[10:33:18] <clever> gamax92: and then cd down, and re-run it in /home
L419[10:33:20] <Magik6k> S3, for clustering I'm halfway implementing TCP/IP stack
L420[10:33:24] <Magik6k> S3, mrfs
L421[10:33:28] <S3> Magik6k: cool
L422[10:33:32] <S3> Magik6k: is your spec updated?
L423[10:33:41] <S3> I wanna start working on adding it to ocbsd pretty soon
L424[10:33:42] <Magik6k> for MrFS?
L425[10:33:45] <S3> yep
L426[10:34:05] <Magik6k> Not yet, haven't looked at it since ages
L427[10:34:12] <S3> lol
L428[10:34:16] <Magik6k> I'm working on new MPT interface now
L429[10:34:24] <S3> I'm working on doing a sort of, relative address pipeline
L430[10:34:33] <gamax92> clever: orr ... I could just have it output without limited depth and have everything visible to me at once
L431[10:34:54] <S3> so it goes through the filesystem and partition and disk modules, etc to determine an absolute address
L432[10:34:59] <S3> nothing unheard of
L433[10:35:44] <S3> the weird part is handling block at once writes
L434[10:35:54] <TheCryptek> ~w 3d
L435[10:35:54] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/item:hdd ( I tried D: )
L436[10:35:56] <S3> cache them in memory, edit them in memory, write block at once
L437[10:36:04] <S3> Magik6k: at least that's how ocbsd will be doing it
L438[10:36:05] <gamax92> S3: You're restoring/backing up a disk and accidentally found out you destroyed the parition table! What do you do?
L439[10:36:21] <S3> gamax92: you didn't...
L440[10:36:32] <gamax92> I have.
L441[10:37:07] <gamax92> S3: but thankfully it's pretty easy to fix
L442[10:37:29] <S3> gamax92: depends on the partition table and if you damaged more than the table or not. If it comes worst to worst, you can technically reconstruct the partition table in a hex editor if you had to, I've done that once.
L443[10:37:43] <Magik6k> S3, I feel like MrFS/SOPT should be tocumented in OETF on forums
L444[10:37:44] <S3> GPT has a shadow table
L445[10:37:46] <gamax92> not if you don't know what the partition table originally was >_.
L446[10:37:53] <Magik6k> as well as my IP stack parts
L447[10:37:55] <gamax92> and it was MBR, and I did damage more than the table
L448[10:38:03] <Magik6k> *documented
L449[10:38:10] <S3> Magik6k: I have some updates to sopt but I can put it up there, I'm continuously finding ways to make sopt simpler and simpler without losing features
L450[10:38:26] <Magik6k> Would be nice
L451[10:38:57] <Magik6k> Is the forum down only for me?
L452[10:39:01] <gamax92> S3: but there's an easier and more accurate way to restore the partition table. What is it? :>
L453[10:39:09] <Magik6k> actually, entire oc.cil.li
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L455[10:39:43] * Mimiru pokes Lizzy
L456[10:39:51] <Mimiru> Or has she left already
L457[10:39:52] <TheCryptek> Magik6k: Its down for me too
L458[10:40:13] <Mimiru> It's up for me
L459[10:40:27] <S3> it really should be easy to implement, here's where the table is, it grows from the end of disk to the beginning, here's the data, starts from beginning to end of disk, every partition entry is exactly the same size so there is no fragmentation, and the disk is treated like slices. that should keep it simple
L460[10:40:30] <Mimiru> Ah... janus is having issues again it seems
L461[10:40:39] <S3> gamax92: technically if you know where the boundries are you could just repartition it
L462[10:41:03] * gamax92 murders S3
L463[10:41:06] <S3> lol
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L465[10:41:28] <S3> I don't think I'm aware of a quick and easy fix for that gamax92 , every time I had partition table corruption it was VERY BAD
L466[10:41:35] <S3> and not very fixable without a new hard drive
L467[10:41:45] <gamax92> S3: there's /sys/block/sda/sda1/(start, size)
L468[10:41:58] <gamax92> so you just dump the in memory table back to disk.
L469[10:42:09] <S3> gamax92: that only works if you didn't reboot..
L470[10:42:17] * vifino sobs
L471[10:42:30] <Mimiru> :(
L472[10:42:37] <gamax92> S3: yes
L473[10:42:42] <gamax92> exactly
L474[10:42:56] <S3> most of the time by the time you notice it's too late for that..
L475[10:42:56] <S3> lol
L476[10:43:06] <gamax92> nope
L477[10:43:06] * vifino curls up to a ball and cries in the corner
L478[10:43:12] <Corded> * Elizabeth pets vifino
L479[10:43:13] <TheCryptek> Since when does it take a new hard drive over a boot record?
L480[10:43:26] <Elizabeth> I'll be back soon <3
L481[10:43:40] <S3> TheCryptek: because whenever it happens to me, the hard drive is making noises XD
L482[10:43:43] * vifino continue sobbing and hugs Elizabeth
L483[10:44:06] <S3> TheCryptek: many of my hard drives are over 20 years old (cept the ones in my laptop and some servers)
L484[10:44:08] <TheCryptek> S3: LOL Okay, I've always been able to just wipe the hard drive and make a new boot table
L485[10:44:15] <S3> but I still have some servers that have hard drives form 1995
L486[10:44:20] <S3> from*
L487[10:44:22] <Mimiru> k, janus is responding to pings again
L488[10:44:24] <S3> they're SCSI and still goin
L489[10:44:54] <TheCryptek> S3: I kinda wanna mess with a server running hard ware from 1995: That was the year I was brong lol
L490[10:44:56] <TheCryptek> born*
L491[10:45:07] <S3> brong
L492[10:45:16] <S3> sounds painful
L493[10:45:18] <TheCryptek> shhh lol
L494[10:45:23] <TheCryptek> im dealing with some issues.
L495[10:45:51] <S3> TheCryptek: you really don't. they're like.. the lowest end computers you'd find
L496[10:45:54] <Elizabeth> Mimiru I am on a bus to the airport, there is nothing I can do with Janus at the moment
L497[10:46:04] <S3> they have frigging pc100 memory
L498[10:46:06] <S3> iirc
L499[10:46:16] <TheCryptek> S3: I know Thats why I want to mess with it.
L500[10:46:21] <S3> lol
L501[10:46:30] <S3> although, I do have a 1999 intel server
L502[10:46:31] <gamax92> S3: pc75
L503[10:46:39] <S3> with 2 pentium 3's at 1Ghz
L504[10:46:50] <S3> pc133, 4GB of ram, and 7 SCSI drives with zfs
L505[10:46:56] <S3> ultra 160s
L506[10:47:00] <vifino> Elizabeth: Can you just not leave and stay with me for a little longer? :(
L507[10:47:14] <Elizabeth> Nope
L508[10:47:21] <Elizabeth> Flight is booked
L509[10:47:31] <Skye> the world needs teleporters
L510[10:47:35] <Mimiru> Yes
L511[10:47:44] <Mimiru> or Portal Guns... I could deal with a Portal Gun..
L512[10:47:50] <S3> TheCryptek: I dunno what it is but I've had fantastic luck with hard drives
L513[10:47:52] <Elizabeth> Na, I just need my tardis
L514[10:47:54] <Skye> Portal! ?
L515[10:48:05] <S3> though SCSIs work pretty much forever if never spun down
L516[10:48:17] <vifino> S3: Can you send me an SCSI pcie card?
L517[10:48:20] <S3> sata drives are made very cheaply
L518[10:48:28] <vifino> I can't find one for a decent price.
L519[10:48:32] <S3> vifino: lol, they make pcie fibre channel scsi
L520[10:48:35] <S3> x16
L521[10:48:50] <S3> do that with solid state scsi
L522[10:48:52] <vifino> I think I need just plain ol SCSI.
L523[10:48:53] * S3 nods
L524[10:49:34] <S3> vifino: itl boost your power bill
L525[10:49:34] <S3> scsi drives never turn off unless the machine shuts down
L526[10:49:48] <S3> they run at full 10,000 + rpm 100% all day
L527[10:50:00] <vifino> S3: I need it for a tape drive.
L528[10:50:13] <vifino> A 12-tape tape robot.
L529[10:50:24] <Skye> I need SCSI to backup my dad's old macintosh.
L530[10:50:28] <Skye> ?
L531[10:50:31] <vifino> However, I don't know if it does fiberchannel too.
L532[10:50:32] <S3> the os doesn't handle any of that
L533[10:51:21] <vifino> S3: Do you know how well ZFS handles tape drives?
L534[10:51:25] <vifino> Would be kinda cool.
L535[10:51:47] <vifino> Of course, not the most efficient thing ever, but still cool.
L536[10:52:21] <S3> vifino: then you need the type of scsi that supports
L537[10:52:23] <gamax92> vifino: what abour a tape drive simulator
L538[10:52:24] <S3> there's many scsi ports
L539[10:52:49] <S3> many tape drives werethe great big 80 pin ribbon cables or whatever they were iirc
L540[10:52:52] <S3> like 3 inches wide
L541[10:54:21] <vifino> I think the type of SCSI this drive needs may be VHDCI.
L542[10:54:44] <S3> vifino: I'm probably going to scare you away, but in my drawer I have a tape drive
L543[10:54:50] <S3> it's 25 pin parallel.
L544[10:54:55] <vifino> Nice.
L545[10:54:56] <Chaz_Serir> Oh wow
L546[10:55:00] <vifino> S3: LTO-1?
L547[10:55:31] <S3> no I forget it takes 3GB compressed tapes
L548[10:55:36] <S3> it's for like windows 95
L549[10:57:02] <gamax92> my father once upon a time had a thing called "Colorado Backup for DOS"
L550[10:57:24] <gamax92> is software for a tape drive
L551[10:57:45] <S3> lol
L552[10:57:59] <S3> Slackware linux comes with mt
L553[10:58:09] <S3> and it also comes with mtx
L554[10:58:16] <S3> which is for autotape changers
L555[10:58:18] <gamax92> and it also comes with a baby
L556[10:58:25] <S3> probably does
L557[10:58:28] <S3> 14.2 just came out
L558[10:58:44] <gamax92> S3: But you want Slackware 4
L559[10:59:32] <S3> FreeBSD 11 just released RC1, oh, guys, vifino you may like this:
L560[10:59:33] <S3> http://hastebin.com/atukatukib
L561[10:59:48] <S3> these are the available sd card installer images for freebsd 11 right now
L562[10:59:50] <gamax92> I don't like it
L563[10:59:53] <S3> I think I may get a banana pi router
L564[10:59:57] <S3> just for it
L565[11:00:11] <vifino> Thats nice.
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L567[11:00:31] <gamax92> S3: perhaps if I had a Raspberry PI first.
L568[11:00:31] <S3> Finally getting easier to do embedded stuff
L569[11:00:34] <vifino> S3: How do I upgrade from an old 11-CURRENT install to 11-RC1
L570[11:00:40] <gamax92> or any embedded thingy
L571[11:01:04] <S3> vifino: if you look at the upgrade page in the handbook it should be the same, you can tell it to upgrade to 11.0-RC1
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L573[11:01:15] <vifino> S3: how2
L574[11:01:15] <S3> instead of say -CURRENT or -RELEASE
L575[11:01:17] <name_> Can we get vga Dvi and hdmi cables
L576[11:01:30] <S3> vifino: well first do an update
L577[11:01:41] <gamax92> name_: why
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L581[11:01:57] <S3> freebsd-update is what you want for that
L582[11:02:02] <name_> To make it more realistic
L583[11:02:20] <gamax92> OC isn't supposed to be realistic
L584[11:02:48] <name_> What about VGAbios
L585[11:03:03] <S3> vifino: after all updated, you go freebsd-update -r 11.0-RC1 I believe
L586[11:03:10] <gamax92> name_: why.
L587[11:03:40] <S3> but keep in mind, you should rebuild all ports you built. This is simple, time consuming but you can leave it in a terminal somewhere say in screen. you use portmaster -af for that
L588[11:03:45] <S3> itl do it for you
L589[11:04:00] <S3> this way, you won't have programs pointing to non existant libraries
L590[11:04:26] <vifino> I think I just mostly use binary packages nowadays.
L591[11:04:31] <S3> then you're all good
L592[11:04:44] <gamax92> name_: VGAbios would be 100% non-functional given that OpenComputers is not an x86 emulator, it just runs Lua
L593[11:04:53] <vifino> Seeing as the host is just an old cpu emulated, I wouldn't get much benefit, if anything at all.
L594[11:04:56] <S3> you'll simply be able to tell pkg to update the packages
L595[11:05:34] <name_> we neeed laptops in it
L596[11:06:26] <gamax92> name_: we have tablets for a functional portable computer
L597[11:06:31] <name_> Then i can make my craptop
L598[11:07:03] <S3> just tape two ipads togetherwith duct tape to make a hinge and open an on screen keyboard on the one below
L599[11:07:06] <name_> t overheated and melted its cpu and graphics chip
L600[11:07:08] <S3> instant craptop
L601[11:07:38] <vifino> S3: No mirrors remaining, giving up.
L602[11:07:50] <S3> vifino: HOW OLD IS THIS BSD INSTALL?!
L603[11:07:57] <name_> We need android
L604[11:07:57] <S3> is this like 7.0 current?
L605[11:07:58] <vifino> a year?
L606[11:08:02] <S3> hmm
L607[11:08:04] <vifino> no, 11-CURRENT, as i said
L608[11:08:28] <vifino> S3: FreeBSD arctic 11.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 11.0-CURRENT #2: Tue Sep 22 03:15:04 UTC 2015 root@arctic:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARCTIC amd64
L609[11:08:33] <name_> apple os maggot would be rubbish
L610[11:08:53] <gamax92> name_: okay, OpenComputers has an architecture api, so if you desire you can go write an ARM arcitecture and port Android for it
L611[11:09:12] <Mimiru> ^^
L612[11:09:44] <S3> oh gosh. see this is whycurrent is not meant for anything but development / testing work on BSD
L613[11:09:46] <name_> d'oh
L614[11:09:48] <S3> lol
L615[11:09:57] <S3> I told you that back then and you were like, "itl be fine!" lol
L616[11:10:29] <S3> vifino: okay since you're running current
L617[11:10:35] <S3> vifino: I'd say be very brave
L618[11:10:37] <S3> and just do a blind upgrade.
L619[11:10:46] <S3> freebsd-update -r 11.0-RC1
L620[11:10:52] <name_> how do i put a crap fan in my computer
L621[11:10:59] <vifino> S3: thats what i did...
L622[11:11:01] <S3> then upgrade after that
L623[11:11:03] <gamax92> name_: well buy a crap fan and then put it in your computer
L624[11:11:05] <vifino> with upgrade appended to it, duh
L625[11:11:14] <name_> In the game
L626[11:11:22] <vifino> pkg update/upgrade worked fine, S3
L627[11:11:26] <gamax92> name_: there are no fans in the game
L628[11:11:40] <S3> vifino: you want to paste the output of the failed upgrade?
L629[11:12:01] <name_> Suddenly i wonder if i put lava on my minecraft computer
L630[11:12:01] <gamax92> S3: I put Manjaro on my Laptop, is fun and nice. It ships with dark themes :>
L631[11:12:14] <S3> what is manjaro..
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L633[11:12:28] <name_> a linux os
L634[11:12:33] <S3> I see
L635[11:12:39] <vifino> S3: it literally just didnt find a mirror
L636[11:12:44] <vifino> then gave up
L637[11:13:24] <S3> the freebsd team wants to see it
L638[11:13:25] <S3> lol
L639[11:13:31] <name_> i had bodhi linux on my computer with the melted cpu
L640[11:13:47] <vifino> S3: u wot
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L642[11:14:04] <name_> type of linux bye,
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L644[11:14:26] <gamax92> S3: It's Arch derived except that it derives far enough to use it's own repos and ship it's own custom Manjaro programs
L645[11:14:46] <vifino> S3: http://pb.i0i0.me/p/GVuTth7W
L646[11:15:20] <S3> vilol got a runtime error from the cgi gateway or webserver or something but refresh worked
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L648[11:15:52] <vifino> yes, my pastebin errors sometimes
L649[11:19:45] <S3> vifino: try to ping update.freebsd.org ?
L650[11:20:15] <vifino> S3: works fine
L651[11:24:07] <gamax92> S3: Why do you Free
L652[11:24:14] <S3> ?
L653[11:24:33] <S3> because freebsd is so clean and nice
L654[11:25:54] <gamax92> S3: but there are thousands of other choices, what led you to choose that one?
L655[11:26:53] <S3> funny thing actually, I came from a Slackware background, and freebsd was the closest to at&t unix that I could get without paying and without losing the feel of Slackare
L656[11:27:13] <S3> not to mention, out of the other BSDs, FreeBSD contained the most hardware support
L657[11:27:21] <gamax92> Why not use Slackware if you wanted Slackware?
L658[11:28:13] <S3> Slackware is Linux. I still use Slackware, but BSD has a leaner, cleaner kernel than Linux does. I'm not bashing Linux's kernel, it's just a lot more efficient.
L659[11:28:30] <S3> FreeBSD only requires 8MB of ram out of the box
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L661[11:29:27] <S3> linux can be strippled down to use minimum ammounts as well, but 2.6 and beyond will throw an error and won't boot if you don't have at least 32MB
L662[11:29:32] <S3> I had some machines that I had to use linux 2.4 or bsd becayuse I only had 16MB of ram
L663[11:31:57] <gamax92> S3: oh really, didn't know that. Was trying to get 2.6 to work for ... USB iirc. But apparently late 2.4 also has enough USB support
L664[11:33:55] <S3> gamax92: there is probably a patch to eliminate it but why bother
L665[11:33:55] <gamax92> 2.6's configuration changed too much that I didn't care
L666[11:34:18] <S3> 2.4 works pretty well but it's old af
L667[11:34:37] <S3> actually, linux was extremely stable around the end of 2.4's life
L668[11:34:50] <gamax92> S3: the very last 2.4 kernel is extremely unstable.
L669[11:35:19] <gamax92> I had to go back a bit more to resolve INSTANTLY PANICING ON LOGIN.
L670[11:35:21] <S3> I wonder why that would be
L671[11:35:36] <S3> it's 2.5 that shoul dhave been unstable
L672[11:35:57] <gamax92> I dunno, all I know is that I'd login and then the computer would panic
L673[11:36:17] <S3> lol
L674[11:36:20] <S3> that's kinda funny
L675[11:40:55] <S3> okay wtf
L676[11:40:55] <S3> why kernel 4.x now
L677[11:41:33] <gamax92> I /was/ going to update my laptop to mint 18 but it wouldn't go
L678[11:41:48] <gamax92> so said fuck it, cleaned up the parition, shrank it, and put Manjaro on instead, new fresh experience
L679[11:42:59] <S3> how is that
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L681[11:46:35] <gamax92> S3: Manjaro? Pretty nice, it has Pamac for a gui to pacman, reminds me of Synaptic
L682[11:47:02] <gamax92> and pamac has integrated AUR searching
L683[11:48:00] <S3> oh it has arch's pacman?
L684[11:48:09] <S3> apt is disgusting
L685[11:48:27] <Mimiru> s/apt/I'm/
L686[11:48:28] <MichiBot> <S3> I'm is disgusting
L687[11:48:29] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L688[11:48:31] <Mimiru> damn it
L689[11:48:36] <Mimiru> s/is//
L690[11:48:36] <MichiBot> <S3> I'm disgusting
L691[11:48:39] <Mimiru> there :p
L692[11:48:43] <S3> MichiBot: fail
L693[11:49:20] <gamax92> S3: yeah, it uses arch's pacman but not with arch's repos but with manjaro repos, which are just derived from arch's repo and has various extras things from the community or specific manjaro software
L694[11:49:56] <S3> huh.. bzip2-x.tar.bz2
L695[11:50:04] <gamax92> :P
L696[11:50:57] <S3> I used to want to make my own dist
L697[11:51:13] <S3> I started with lfs bases, and slackware bases, and then was like meh, I don't want to manage this
L698[11:51:14] <gamax92> I don't miss apt at all.
L699[11:52:04] <S3> I have apt-get on a windows box
L700[11:53:05] <S3> vifino: weird thing, but try using opendns / google dns on resolv.conf?
L701[11:55:05] <vifino> I am using google dns.
L702[12:02:46] <Ember_Primrose> o/
L703[12:07:54] <Ember_Primrose> Mimiru, you know the other day you achieved 50K
L704[12:08:20] <Forecaster> here, have a point
L705[12:08:24] <Forecaster> %+1 Mimiru
L706[12:08:26] <MichiBot> Forecaster: Mimiru now has -9223372036854775808 points
L707[12:08:48] <gamax92> Forecaster: look at what you just did.
L708[12:08:56] <gamax92> Good job.
L709[12:09:15] <Ember_Primrose> well, apparently the other day means in november last year
L710[12:10:16] <Mimiru> Yeah, cause I made it add actions to the line total
L711[12:10:22] <Mimiru> which added a lot of lines to everyone
L712[12:11:01] <Ember_Primrose> wow, your prog is smart to recognise de date
L713[12:11:33] <Mimiru> It's not mine :P But it's pretty easy, just look at the date on the file when user reaches x lines
L714[12:12:18] <gamax92> Mimiru: it's only like ... 2% yours, right?
L715[12:12:21] <Ember_Primrose> :3
L716[12:12:49] <Mimiru> something like that
L717[12:13:21] <Mimiru> Have to leave soon.. :/
L718[12:14:23] <Ember_Primrose> ohno
L719[12:14:27] <Ember_Primrose> :|
L720[12:14:46] <vifino> Does Amazon have over night delivery for @Elizabeth?
L721[12:15:29] <Elizabeth> Probably not
L722[12:15:41] <Elizabeth> Also I don't think I'd fit in a parcel
L723[12:16:39] <Ember_Primrose> vifino, Lizzy , lost/forgot something?\
L724[12:18:10] <Elizabeth> Yes, each other
L725[12:20:49] <Elizabeth> _wonders if it would be possible to drive/ride a motorcycle all the way to vifino
L726[12:21:06] <Corded> * Elizabeth tried
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L728[12:22:54] <vifino> probably not, at least not easily
L729[12:25:21] <Elizabeth> Still, would be a kinda cool way to show up though. Just phone ahead to let you know when I'm 5 minutes or so away so you or your mother can trigger the garage gate as I come by
L730[12:25:40] * CompanionCube liks opensuse tumblweeed's package manager but not so much the repositorie
L731[12:25:43] <CompanionCube> *repositories
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L733[12:26:56] <Elizabeth> Right, might as well go check my bag in so I can do stuff without having to worry about leaving it
L734[12:27:14] <CompanionCube> having automatic filesystem snapshots is sweet af though
L735[12:27:17] <CompanionCube> S3: ^
L736[12:28:48] <Ember_Primrose> lizzy, thats adorable, you two are like #oc's limelight couple :P
L737[12:29:22] <gamax92> I got bored, so have some fancy stats https://i.imgur.com/TQ4XhIF.png
L738[12:29:46] <Ember_Primrose> how us make it dark?
L739[12:29:52] <Ember_Primrose> u*
L740[12:30:06] <Mimiru> have that css handy?
L741[12:30:07] <gamax92> I took the existing stylesheet and inverted it
L742[12:30:56] <gamax92> Mimiru: it's not for serving to clients, it relies on the non color parts of the old stylesheet
L743[12:31:35] <gamax92> I can /maybe/ modify my generator to output the other parts too
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L745[12:36:55] <Mimiru> Well, if you do PM it to me, I've gotta go
L746[12:39:10] <Forecaster> well, color me mildly amused and somewhat worried
L747[12:39:40] <Forecaster> I just found an envelope in the hallway addressed to "The Homeopathyhouse"
L748[12:39:54] <Forecaster> I asked my mom what was in it, she said horse hair
L749[12:40:13] <Forecaster> she's going to send in hair from her horse to see if she's "lacking anything" as she put it
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L751[12:40:36] <Temia> uh.
L752[12:42:32] <xandaros> Anyone else having massive issues with youtube lately?
L753[12:42:44] <Forecaster> no
L754[12:42:48] <Forecaster> it's worked fine for me
L755[12:43:05] <xandaros> Hmm, that's odd
L756[12:43:19] <Forecaster> might be your local server that's having issues?
L757[12:43:24] <xandaros> Since yesterday or so, it buffers insanely slowly :/
L758[12:43:53] <Temia> I wouldn't know, my connection can barely manage realtime at 480p.
L759[12:44:43] <xandaros> Well, my connection can take just about anything, but now I can't watch 720p in realtime. (But almost, small stutters every now and then)
L760[12:44:48] <xandaros> I want my 1080p, though :(
L761[12:45:03] <Ember_Primrose> hi tem tem
L762[12:45:09] <Temia> It's a waste of bandwidth, frankly.
L763[12:45:19] * Ember_Primrose hugs Temia tightly
L764[12:45:27] <Temia> Hi.
L765[12:45:27] <xandaros> I've started to buffer a whole bunch of videos in the background while watching other videos, but that's not exactly optimal
L766[12:45:52] <Temia> ...are you sure that's not your problem?
L767[12:46:03] <Forecaster> depends what you're watching and if you're watching in fullscreen or not
L768[12:46:04] <Ember_Primrose> yea, thats dumb
L769[12:46:15] <Ember_Primrose> not to be rude tho
L770[12:46:33] <xandaros> How so? This way, I can at least watch the videos without having to wait for it to buffer for ages -_-
L771[12:46:51] <xandaros> I have to know what I want to watch in advance, though :/
L772[12:46:57] <Ember_Primrose> true
L773[12:47:35] <Temia> Frankly, more people should ween themselves off video content.
L774[12:47:56] <Forecaster> why?
L775[12:48:12] <Ember_Primrose> Temia -san, how was/is your'e day?
L776[12:48:41] <xandaros> "your'e" instead of "your" - that's a new one :D
L777[12:48:44] <Temia> I'm not in the mood to speak further, on either count.
L778[12:48:56] <Forecaster> um okay
L779[12:49:19] <Ember_Primrose> wll im a herpaderp
L780[12:49:25] <Ember_Primrose> like that
L781[12:50:27] * Ember_Primrose hugs and pets Temia a little
L782[12:50:30] <Ember_Primrose> well okay then
L783[12:50:43] <Temia> Please don't.
L784[12:50:58] <Forecaster> well I'm not about to stop, I like watching "video content"
L785[12:51:10] <Ember_Primrose> :/
L786[12:51:14] <Ember_Primrose> im sorry
L787[12:51:27] <Temia> It's fine. I'm just tired.
L788[12:52:06] <Ember_Primrose> what time is it there?
L789[12:52:51] <Elizabeth> *waves to Temia *
L790[12:53:33] <Temia> Not that kind of tired.
L791[12:53:39] <Temia> Hey Lizzy.
L792[12:54:33] <Elizabeth> Hai
L793[12:54:42] <Ember_Primrose> ok then
L794[12:55:06] <Ember_Primrose> ill just leave you to your own
L795[12:55:27] <Ember_Primrose> :)
L796[12:57:59] <gamax92> added in support for the short 3 character #RGB variant into my css generator
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L801[13:06:47] <gamax92> Achai: y
L802[13:06:52] <Achai> That shouldn't be a fucking feature
L803[13:06:54] <Achai> I hate IRC.
L804[13:07:03] <Forecaster> ohno
L805[13:07:12] <Achai> Especially having to track down what channels Michibot is in
L806[13:07:55] <Achai> Mimiru: Please put what channel MichiBot is talking about in the nick limit message
L807[13:08:32] <gamax92> It doesn't have anything to do with MichiBot, its a channel setting.
L808[13:08:37] <Achai> And why the fuck can you not change your nick when you are "banned" on a channel
L809[13:08:40] <Achai> gamax92: -MichiBot- Your nick is longer than the current allowed limit of 18 characters. You have been automatically quieted, and will have to /part the channel to change your name.
L810[13:09:05] <Achai> The message pops up in any channel context because it's a direct notice to me
L811[13:09:27] <gamax92> Achai: mmhm, but the actual restriction is a channel restriction, all Michibot is doing is telling you about it
L812[13:09:33] <Achai> Yes
L813[13:09:49] <Achai> Thats another thing, why the hell are those things silent .-.
L814[13:09:59] <Achai> IRC is terrible, it truely is
L815[13:10:03] <Achai> *truly
L816[13:10:17] <Temia> Nickchanging while banned is disallowed so as to prevent people from spamming nickchanges.
L817[13:10:35] <Achai> Temia: Yes but any channel can prevent you from changing your nick
L818[13:10:49] <Achai> putting you in a situation where you can't find what channel won't let you change your nick
L819[13:11:13] <Temia> That sounds like a problem with the client.
L820[13:11:48] <Achai> There is nothing a client can really do in that situation except tell you to quit all your channels and try again
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L822[13:12:17] <Temia> Your client can retrieve channelmodes just fine.
L823[13:12:47] <Temia> Come to think of it, though, the quiet mode is outside of the RFC.
L824[13:12:52] <Achai> Yes
L825[13:12:56] <Temia> So I guess some blame can be laid at Charybdis's feet.
L826[13:13:10] <Achai> I know hexchat devs get mad when someone goes against the RFC
L827[13:13:32] <Achai> Like they have lists of shame for server software that doesn't do things correctly
L828[13:13:41] <Achai> And hacks to make sure that things still work correctly
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L830[13:14:24] <Achai> Another thing
L831[13:14:36] <Achai> I don't see the rule that prevents long nicks in the banlist or the channel mode
L832[13:15:00] <Achai> unless it's a mode char
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L834[13:15:31] <Inari> Achai: wait
L835[13:15:33] <Temia> * 728 #oc q ??????????????????*!*@* nova.esper.net 1461824756
L836[13:15:37] <Inari> isnt hexchat the thing that doesnt o NOTICE properly?
L837[13:15:52] <Achai> o NOTICE?
L838[13:15:55] <gamax92> do
L839[13:15:56] <Inari> "do
L840[13:15:57] <Inari> :p
L841[13:15:57] <Achai> oh
L842[13:16:12] <Achai> It inserts a notice in whatever channel you are looking at
L843[13:16:17] <Inari> ¬_¬
L844[13:16:27] <Temia> Haha, irony
L845[13:16:29] <Achai> Unless the notice is to the channel itself
L846[13:16:30] <Inari> nnice one on a thing thats supposed to follow the RFC
L847[13:16:35] <Inari> ah
L848[13:16:40] <Inari> Achai: what does it do for the channel?
L849[13:16:59] <gamax92> someone send me a notice?
L850[13:17:10] <gamax92> so does Quassel
L851[13:17:13] <Achai> Inari: inserts it into the channel target I believe
L852[13:17:15] <TheCryptek> gamax92:
L853[13:17:20] <gamax92> TheCryptek: that's not a notice
L854[13:17:26] <Inari> Achai: does it ping yuo despite your name not bein gthere?
L855[13:17:37] <Achai> Inari: Yes
L856[13:17:42] <Inari> good
L857[13:17:46] <Inari> then they still ignore the RFC
L858[13:17:47] <Inari> \o/
L859[13:18:20] <Achai> Possibly because there are bots or whatever that still do stuff via notice
L860[13:18:34] <Achai> And they don't want backlash for other people's shit
L861[13:18:36] <gamax92> Inari: oh, Quassel sends me the notice in both my active buffer and the proper buffer, but reloading the scrollback will have the channel copy vanish
L862[13:18:58] <Inari> Achai: ?
L863[13:20:15] <Inari> Achai: bots should do stuff via# notice
L864[13:20:54] <Achai> Inari: no like bots notifying a user of something via notice
L865[13:21:01] <Achai> ala what MichiBot did
L866[13:21:08] <gamax92> Achai: kibibyte
L867[13:21:16] <Inari> bot responses should be sent via notice
L868[13:21:18] <Inari> or waht do you mean
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L870[13:21:43] <Achai> Inari: The message to tell me my nick was too long was sent as a notice
L871[13:22:14] <Achai> Something that urgent should be sent as a privmsg
L872[13:23:22] <gamax92> Bots should communicate in general over privmsg anyway, and they do. Besides that one little notice
L873[13:24:42] <Inari> well if they respond in cahnnel it should be a notice
L874[13:25:20] <gamax92> why :/
L875[13:25:27] <Inari> because
L876[13:25:31] <Inari> thats the entire point notice exists
L877[13:26:07] <Inari> notice and privmsg are the same
L878[13:26:09] <Temia> Notices as defined by the RFC are distinct from privmsgs so as to prevent them from being automatically parsed by other bots.
L879[13:26:13] <Inari> except that bots should not respond to notices
L880[13:26:15] <Temia> And only that.
L881[13:26:58] <Temia> The fact that mIRC set a harmful precedent in making notices warrant notification is an issue that many clients share.
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L883[13:30:04] <gamax92> Exactly, design and implementation may not always match up properly. Given that most client apparently have "broken" notices, then it shouldn't be used unless it's something urgent since it pops up in whatever you're looking.
L884[13:30:19] <S3> gamax92: you know there is 1 thing that freebsd didn't do so well
L885[13:30:45] <gamax92> When kibibyte used notices, all that resulted in was it getting tons of hate and preferring Michibot
L886[13:30:49] <S3> I just thought of it now
L887[13:31:42] <Inari> gamax92: nah
L888[13:31:49] <Inari> it should be used per spec
L889[13:31:52] <Inari> let the clients deal with the hate
L890[13:32:01] <Inari> maybe they'll chang ethen :P
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L892[13:32:14] <gamax92> Inari: well they haven't, so good luck with that.
L893[13:32:24] <Inari> gamax92: cause bot makers caved
L894[13:32:44] <S3> gamax92: basically, there is no documentation for freebsd's ufs.
L895[13:35:04] <Inari> https://i.imgur.com/cwlJKU7.jpg gg
L896[13:35:10] <S3> Magik6k: so if I follow mrfs's spec, would it break things badly when I update it to your current specs?
L897[13:35:30] <gamax92> Inari: 10/10
L898[13:35:53] <gamax92> Tracer is looking fabulous
L899[13:36:21] <gamax92> Inari: why is it so blurry though
L900[13:36:30] <Inari> dunno, ask whoever took the pic
L901[13:37:57] <S3> I have come to a new design decision for SOPT
L902[13:38:40] <S3> I have been trying to figure out a way to handle partition types, without limiting to only GPT / MBR partitioning numbers
L903[13:38:48] <S3> what do you think about using a UUID instead
L904[13:38:56] <S3> to identify the partition type
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L906[13:39:37] <S3> actually what I don't understand is why GPT uses 16 bit numbers.. and not uuids?
L907[13:40:33] <gamax92> S3: You have a need for more than 64k partition types? :P
L908[13:41:51] <S3> I don't but
L909[13:41:59] <S3> I don't want to use GPT's naming space
L910[13:42:05] <S3> in case I overwrite something
L911[13:42:19] <S3> bad word but
L912[13:42:21] <gamax92> Inari: it looks like Tracer's back is a car seat. O_o
L913[13:42:36] <S3> gamax92: the way I was doing it was a flag for identifying the partition type
L914[13:42:48] <S3> by enabling the bit it used GPT patition types
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L916[13:43:04] <S3> and by disabling the bit it represented a 16 bit Open Computers partition type for custom filesystems
L917[13:43:14] <S3> think we should stick to that?
L918[13:43:28] <S3> it's called the "legacy" bit
L919[13:43:28] <Inari> gamax92: haha
L920[13:45:22] <S3> gamax92: The second proposal is to switch from little endian to big endian.
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L922[13:45:46] <gamax92> S3: but then GreaseMonkey would be disappointed in you :P
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L924[13:45:57] <S3> yes, I'm not kidding, I had a very good reason at one time why the partition boundries were represented in 24 bit little endian. oh he would why?
L925[13:46:31] <S3> I've forgotten my reasoning at this point
L926[13:46:49] <gamax92> He's not a fan of big endian
L927[13:46:54] <S3> neither am I
L928[13:47:05] <S3> but it's ahardware advantage, not a software advantae
L929[13:47:08] <S3> advantage*
L930[13:47:22] <Inari> https://youtu.be/Tmx1jpqv3RA woo i can stop explaining this
L931[13:47:22] <MichiBot> Homer Simpson on Jealousy and Envy | length: 17s | Likes: 1508 Dislikes: 26 Views: 232758 | by Josh Lynagh
L932[13:47:25] <S3> it's a performance thing really in hardware
L933[13:47:42] <S3> it allows for cpus with a zero page to not waste their time
L934[13:47:52] <S3> during zero page operations
L935[13:48:49] <S3> I am doubtful of the move from 24 bit to say 16 or 32 bit would be at any performance advantage that is measurable
L936[13:48:59] <S3> only because ocbsd does block at once writes
L937[13:49:03] <Magik6k> S3, those specs are the only specs(there is nothing new)
L938[13:49:21] <S3> Magik6k: ah I see
L939[13:49:32] <Magik6k> But I'd be more than happy to give you write access to that doc if you want to tweak sometthing
L940[13:49:47] <S3> meh. I'd rather bring it up with you first lol
L941[13:49:50] <S3> where are they anyways?
L942[13:50:22] <Magik6k> S3, that's this IIRC: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jfGkJs_NT-txI0c8tnBWxsUhgMsFNxaeqt65inKCYW4/edit
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L944[13:50:51] <S3> these are familiar
L945[13:51:39] <S3> okay, all data in mrfs is little endian
L946[13:51:45] <S3> I'll just keep SOPT in little endian then
L947[13:52:48] <Inari> Forecaster: https://gfycat.com/ZealousShyBear
L948[13:55:11] <S3> Magik6k: just out of curiosity, did you have a reason why the size of an inode was in the inode itself and not the superblock?
L949[13:55:21] <S3> I'd be really worried about inode boundry fragmentation
L950[13:55:40] <Forecaster> xD
L951[13:56:08] <Forecaster> I've had a turret start shooting at a police ship without me telling it to :P
L952[13:56:15] <Forecaster> got me killed right quick
L953[13:56:19] <Magik6k> umm
L954[13:56:28] <Forecaster> @ Inari
L955[13:56:32] <Inari> Forecaster: hehe
L956[13:56:57] <Magik6k> Size reffered in inode is size of what it's pointing at
L957[13:57:26] <Magik6k> inode is 16 bytes, block is 2^x, you can't have split inode
L958[13:57:37] <Magik6k> Assuming that's what you meant
L959[13:57:59] <S3> hmm
L960[13:58:20] <Magik6k> *Inode = any type of file
L961[13:58:59] <Magik6k> Inode points to pointer blocks
L962[13:59:33] <S3> oh okay, so you aren't doing the whole inode block thing some filesystems use where file contents are stored in the inodes,
L963[13:59:51] <Magik6k> nah
L964[14:00:10] <S3> okay then that's not so bad now
L965[14:00:10] <Magik6k> directory entry stores inodes by itself
L966[14:00:10] <S3> heh
L967[14:00:18] <S3> I see you have data pointing blocks
L968[14:01:35] <Magik6k> I may want to include flag in pointers telling that pointer is uninitialized allowing for preallocating files without actually doing that
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L970[14:01:57] <Miyoyo> Hello!
L971[14:02:03] <Magik6k> o/
L972[14:02:07] <Miyoyo> \o
L973[14:02:18] <S3> so inodes, they grow from the top down?
L974[14:02:51] <Magik6k> Nah, there is no typical inode space
L975[14:03:22] <S3> oh so it shares data space
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L977[14:03:26] <Magik6k> I refer to inode only as a structure describing files
L978[14:03:27] <gamax92> S3: port ext2
L979[14:03:33] <S3> nooooooo
L980[14:03:36] <gamax92> yessssss
L981[14:03:39] <S3> ext2 is dangerous
L982[14:03:40] <Magik6k> directories store inode list
L983[14:03:43] <gamax92> ext2 is delicious
L984[14:03:46] <S3> it will never work in an OC environment
L985[14:03:50] <gamax92> why not?
L986[14:04:13] <S3> well, I'm not going to include mrfs in this argument, but ext2 is not journaled
L987[14:04:32] <Magik6k> mrfs still allows for such extension
L988[14:04:36] <S3> I'd fear lots of problems
L989[14:04:45] <S3> people will just shut off their OC boxes
L990[14:05:06] <Miyoyo> I'm sure with enough CPU time ext2 can work
L991[14:05:08] <gamax92> >_> that's only an issue if you are not writing back to disk.
L992[14:05:12] <Miyoyo> Why not use EXT4
L993[14:05:13] <Magik6k> I still have 253 free data types to define, heh
L994[14:05:21] <S3> gamax92: yes.
L995[14:05:22] <Miyoyo> OR even better create EXT5
L996[14:05:24] <gamax92> FAT16 is not journaled either yet it works fine in OC
L997[14:05:30] <S3> gamax92: don't forget, ocbsd does sector caching
L998[14:05:48] <S3> you'd want to shut that off with sysfs
L999[14:05:55] <S3> er, sysctl
L1000[14:05:56] <gamax92> if you turn your computer off in the middle of a managed file writing it has the potential to corrupt if you didn't put the entire file all at once.
L1001[14:06:18] <Inari> https://gfycat.com/SmartQuickEft haha
L1002[14:06:21] <S3> ocbsd does sector caching and periodic writes
L1003[14:06:22] <Miyoyo> I hate google, it keeps reverting back to french :(
L1004[14:06:32] <gamax92> Inari: that gfycat title though.
L1005[14:07:01] <Inari> https://zippy.gfycat.com/MetallicJauntyAsianlion.webm take my moeny
L1006[14:07:39] <TheCryptek> What game is that
L1007[14:07:41] <gamax92> Inari: what is it
L1008[14:07:47] <Inari> some kinda facewash
L1009[14:07:51] <Inari> TheCryptek: star citizen
L1010[14:07:57] <gamax92> can I do that with whipped cream instead?
L1011[14:08:04] <S3> lol!
L1012[14:08:13] <Inari> gamax92: maybe?
L1013[14:08:52] <gamax92> just think of how popular you'd be, serving out pie with rose shaped whip cream
L1014[14:10:52] <S3> gamax92: or a 3D printer to make your own shapes?
L1015[14:10:58] <S3> shapers*
L1016[14:11:13] <gamax92> If only I had a 3d printer.
L1017[14:11:30] <gamax92> or a library that had a 3d printer, apparently some do and will let you use them for a few hours
L1018[14:12:07] <S3> that's enough to print a 3d printed pea
L1019[14:13:33] <TheCryptek> Inari: Darn cant play it till I save up to buy a package
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L1021[14:14:47] <S3> Magik6k: what are the proposed multi rack features of mrfs?
L1022[14:15:07] <Inari> Buy now, limited time only! These new rose-shapped penis caps make you the hottest stud in the area. They make your best thing look even better! Give her your "rose" tonight! And theres more! These caps are multifunctional! Bring all the women to you with the rose scent of these caps! Antibiotic coating and cleaning agent keeps your best part clean for the best part of the night! As you squeeze
L1023[14:15:07] <Inari> the cap to take it off, it will deposit sensitivity-enhancing lubricant straight onto your tip! Buy now, and you get an extra cap and cap-cleaner for free!"
L1024[14:15:21] * Inari coughs
L1025[14:15:35] <Inari> yes, im bored
L1026[14:15:38] <S3> Magik6k: maybe like a disk uuid continuation number?
L1027[14:16:45] <S3> Inari wtf?
L1028[14:16:51] <Temia> Inari, have you been watching Utena?
L1029[14:17:30] <Elizabeth> Inari, >_<
L1030[14:17:54] <S3> Magik6k: another possibility to increase its' feature set is to get rid of sopt and implement slicing support, with the ability to combine slices accross multiple disks.
L1031[14:18:00] <Inari> Temia: nope
L1032[14:18:18] <S3> it would allow mrfs to be used in place of a partiion table technically..
L1033[14:18:20] <Inari> S3: had to think of that as a business idea when gamax mentioned attracting customers/being popular via rose-shaped things :<
L1034[14:18:26] <Temia> Just checking, cuz' there are a lot of roses in that `-`
L1035[14:18:33] <S3> Inari: ...
L1036[14:18:47] <Temia> And also a constant undercurrent of sexual tension.
L1037[14:18:52] <Inari> Temia: i dont think utena has al ot of male sex orgasn though
L1038[14:18:56] <Inari> or does it
L1039[14:18:57] <Inari> no clue
L1040[14:19:00] <Temia> Saionji.
L1041[14:19:01] <Temia> Fullstop.
L1042[14:19:09] <Inari> it sturkc me more as a shoujo-ai anime
L1043[14:19:27] <S3> wtf is Utena
L1044[14:19:29] <Inari> i never really watched it though :D
L1045[14:19:32] <Temia> There's more to it than that for sure.
L1046[14:19:33] <S3> I don't even want to look it up
L1047[14:19:42] <Inari> http://myanimelist.net/anime/440/Shoujo_Kakumei_Utena?q=utena
L1048[14:19:53] <Inari> Temia: might have to give it a proper try at some point
L1049[14:19:56] <Inari> last time i dropped it around ep 3
L1050[14:20:34] <Temia> It's a love-it-or-hate-it psychological trip.
L1051[14:20:48] <Temia> As one of the insert songs puts it, "allegory, allegorier, allegoriest".
L1052[14:21:05] <Inari> i quite like yurikuma arashi, and been often recommendted utena because of that :P
L1053[14:21:29] <S3> ok
L1054[14:21:31] <Inari> @Elizabeth: you know you want one for vif!
L1055[14:21:34] <Temia> But yeah, it's not just the protagonists who are gay as fuck, Inari
L1056[14:21:38] <Temia> See: Touga.
L1057[14:21:41] <Temia> Also Touga.
L1058[14:22:12] <gamax92> :|
L1059[14:23:01] <Magik6k> S3, hmm
L1060[14:23:20] <Magik6k> UUID was 16 byte right?
L1061[14:23:26] <Magik6k> [binary form ofc]
L1062[14:24:51] <S3> uuid? yeah 128 bit
L1063[14:25:12] <S3> Sangar: when are we going to have unmanaged drive support in the raid components?
L1064[14:25:27] <S3> or am I really going to have to make a SAN block
L1065[14:25:55] <Magik6k> I thought about loop device driver too
L1066[14:26:10] <S3> for networking?
L1067[14:26:39] <Magik6k> loop device is wrapping files into block device(at least in linux)
L1068[14:26:56] <S3> oh that kind of loop device
L1069[14:26:58] <Magik6k> for networked drives I thank of using NBD
L1070[14:27:06] <S3> yeah I use loop devices a lot
L1071[14:27:14] <S3> for mounting isos and other weird stuff
L1072[14:27:22] <gamax92> qemu-nbd
L1073[14:28:04] <Inari> TIL https://www.reddit.com/r/carsfuckingdragons/
L1074[14:28:08] <Miyoyo> wat
L1075[14:28:11] <gamax92> oh yeah, that place
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L1077[14:28:23] <S3> Magik6k: so your filesystem has up to 256 types eh?
L1078[14:28:30] <S3> I have an interesting and very stupid idea
L1079[14:28:57] <Vexatos> Inari, rule #1: /r/<noun><verb><noun> is a thing
L1080[14:29:17] <Inari> Vexatoseatingpie?
L1081[14:29:28] <S3> there have been experimental filesystems in the past that are more about data storage instead of file storage
L1082[14:29:31] <Miyoyo> Probs
L1083[14:29:40] <Magik6k> S3, the idea being?
L1084[14:30:07] <S3> I've always wondered if sometimes it'd be better to have the filesystem act as a database, so you could store files, but the filesystem would natively support hashtables, and arrays, things that would be used for data storage
L1085[14:30:22] <Magik6k> hmm
L1086[14:30:26] <Miyoyo> But then file number would be limited
L1087[14:30:33] <gamax92> Vexatos: catseatingfood doesn't exist
L1088[14:30:35] <Miyoyo> or the database would have to be treated as a file itself
L1089[14:30:36] <S3> it's a non oc related idea I had a long time ago
L1090[14:30:57] <Vexatos> gamax92, I didn't specify which dimension it exists in
L1091[14:31:04] <S3> Miyoyo: yeah but if you treat it as a file then you're better to build a database on top of files
L1092[14:31:16] <S3> Miyoyo: there are filesystems that are capable of doing this, I believe hadoop is one of them
L1093[14:31:27] <Magik6k> Actually it /would/ be possible to only implement directories, and then other black-level storage types around that
L1094[14:31:28] <Miyoyo> Wait
L1095[14:31:34] <Miyoyo> doesn't NTFS do something like this?
L1096[14:31:38] <Magik6k> Like native block-device files
L1097[14:31:40] <S3> I am not sure
L1098[14:31:57] <S3> but the benefit is that there is 1 less layer for data oriented stuff.
L1099[14:32:09] <Magik6k> That would make for a neatly modular filesystem
L1100[14:32:11] <S3> allowing say your OC robots to be more data oriented at the filesystem level
L1101[14:33:21] <S3> the filesystem would differentiate between a file block and blocks of database data, which could be used by the os as well for syncing things like sysfs entries to disk that need to be persistent.
L1102[14:33:26] <Miyoyo> Here it is
L1103[14:33:27] <Miyoyo> $MFT
L1104[14:33:37] <S3> it's a really whack idea, but I'm curious how much extra work it would take to make an fs like that
L1105[14:33:40] <Miyoyo> $Master file table
L1106[14:33:57] <S3> after all, a database server like MySQL, the database is like a filesystem
L1107[14:34:03] <S3> why run a filesystem on top of a filesystem?
L1108[14:34:16] <Miyoyo> Closing up access?
L1109[14:34:22] <Miyoyo> Complete security
L1110[14:34:29] <Miyoyo> Password-on-access
L1111[14:34:33] <S3> you're right, there are benefits, but there are also some performance loss, etc
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L1113[14:34:37] <Miyoyo> Single-system for a single-file
L1114[14:34:52] <Miyoyo> $MFT contains:
L1115[14:35:29] <S3> another option is to hve the partition table that spans multiple disks support this.
L1116[14:35:35] <Miyoyo> Created date, modified date, access date, last write date, standard info attribute (wtv that is), Physical and logical size of file AND permissions
L1117[14:35:52] <S3> that sounds REALLY weird, but not when the partitioner handles disks, the filesystem doesn't care if the partitioner puts the filesystem in order
L1118[14:36:10] <S3> imagine, if the partition layer was responsible for "giving out disk blocks"
L1119[14:36:28] <S3> in any sparse order or collective order, doesn't matter
L1120[14:36:34] <Miyoyo> Isn't the part table alerady doing it?
L1121[14:36:39] <S3> right
L1122[14:36:41] <S3> that's my point
L1123[14:36:48] <S3> we do this in memory
L1124[14:36:49] <Magik6k> like LVM?
L1125[14:36:55] <S3> well
L1126[14:37:06] * CompanionCube has also thought of a tag-based filesystem that allowed you to have directories by giving you the option to select one tag as the 'principal' one
L1127[14:37:14] <S3> like an automatic lvm though
L1128[14:37:40] <Miyoyo> Just use a table man
L1129[14:37:55] <Miyoyo> If it doesn't exist IDK make something
L1130[14:38:00] <Miyoyo> Magic maybe
L1131[14:38:01] <Magik6k> so FS could call 'LVM' for, say, more blocks
L1132[14:38:12] <S3> imagine if you made a new file
L1133[14:38:56] <Inari> Forecaster: i think partially i'd enjoy E:D more if i didnt know about its tech xD
L1134[14:38:57] <S3> and so, the filesystem, in order to do this, needs more blocks, because the partitioner manages the blocks it uses, so the partitioning layer gives out some blocks and the filesystem handles it in its own relative addressing manner which gets converted by the partitioning layer
L1135[14:39:03] <S3> which can be in any order it wants
L1136[14:39:19] <S3> one MASSIVE benefit here is that partitions can be resized without losing data.
L1137[14:39:22] <CompanionCube> you could have a relational database filesystem...but you wouldn't gain much
L1138[14:39:24] <Inari> Forecaster: knowing baout all the instancing and sutff behind the scenes make the world feel much wors esomehow
L1139[14:39:42] <S3> er, I mean, partitions can be enlarged without taking up data from another file
L1140[14:39:43] <CompanionCube> you would just rename directories to tables and files to records
L1141[14:39:59] <S3> it would just find another available block
L1142[14:40:22] <S3> you could have 5 partitions that were interlaced in whatevr order they were made
L1143[14:40:31] <S3> a block from parition 4, a block from partition 1, etc
L1144[14:40:37] <S3> it'd just figure it out
L1145[14:40:45] <Miyoyo> Maybe do an automatic refactoring
L1146[14:40:56] <S3> and fragmentation is not an issue here.
L1147[14:40:59] <Miyoyo> if you delete a big file it will auto-try to fit smaller file in
L1148[14:41:15] <Inari> TIL https://www.google.com/search?q=cyber+woman+with+corn&tbm=isch
L1149[14:41:28] <S3> Miyoyo: yes, but if all blocks are exactly the same size you will not have boundry fragmentation
L1150[14:41:38] <Miyoyo> Inari: what the hell
L1151[14:41:39] <Magik6k> Sounds fun, but it would require to use quite a bit of space for block-dict
L1152[14:42:04] <S3> Magik6k: I will do some thinking on my chaulk board, because I have a hunch that it's easier than I think
L1153[14:42:29] <S3> filesystems that supported it would even have more benefit than the ones that didn't
L1154[14:42:36] <Magik6k> It's really, really easy
L1155[14:42:44] <S3> yes but it should be even easier
L1156[14:42:55] <Miyoyo> My god NTFS is messy AF
L1157[14:42:56] <S3> I mean right now I'm thinking how protected memory works
L1158[14:43:02] <S3> and relative memory addressing
L1159[14:43:25] <Miyoyo> $MFT, $MFTMirr, $LogFile, $Volume, $AttrDef, . (dot), $Bitmap, $Boot, $BadClus, $Secure, $UpCase, and $Extend
L1160[14:43:30] <S3> if it takes the same time to access the beginning of disk as the end relatively then why bother worrying about order fragmentation
L1161[14:43:41] <S3> and if all blocks are exactly the same size there will be no boundry fragmentation
L1162[14:43:46] <CompanionCube> http://www.nobius.org/%7edbg/practical-file-system-design.pdf this seems relevant
L1163[14:43:55] <S3> filesystem blocks can span multiple disk blocks
L1164[14:44:25] <S3> so as long as boundry fragmentation doesn't occur on the filesystem level it will remain to be pretty fast likely
L1165[14:44:55] <Magik6k> with 8 Bytes/Pointer with 4092 byte virtual blocks, and 512 physical, for 5MB drive dictonary would be 21 blocks/ ~10KB
L1166[14:44:59] <Magik6k> not bad actually
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L1168[14:45:23] <Magik6k> 2B for partition ID, 3x2B for translation
L1169[14:45:32] <Magik6k> *2x3B
L1170[14:45:42] <Miyoyo> Only 4 parts?
L1171[14:46:47] <Magik6k> or Actually, translation could be 4 bytes, 1B partition, 3B virtual address
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L1173[14:46:55] <S3> Magik6k: especially if you're running accross say 8 drives
L1174[14:47:31] <Magik6k> Each drive can hold only it's translations
L1175[14:47:56] <Miyoyo> implement RAID
L1176[14:48:25] <Magik6k> RAID is too mainstream :p
L1177[14:48:29] <S3> yeah..
L1178[14:48:48] <S3> Miyoyo: ocbsd already has a cd driver in the plans if you want raid
L1179[14:48:57] <Miyoyo> kk
L1180[14:48:57] <S3> it's as much raid as you would ever want
L1181[14:49:05] <S3> it just concatenates disks together into one
L1182[14:49:31] <S3> but with a data oriented partitioning table.. don't need it
L1183[14:49:35] <Miyoyo> What would happen if OC could use 1gb disk?
L1184[14:49:49] <Kimiro> Death on an unprecedented scale.
L1185[14:49:54] <Miyoyo> :D
L1186[14:50:02] <S3> it'd explode penguins all over the screen and they'd break through, causing a ruckus in your room.
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L1188[14:50:28] <S3> it'd be like a recreation of the monkey scene in jumungi but with penguins instead
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L1191[14:53:34] <Inari> http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/08/cisco-firewall-exploit-shows-how-nsa-decrypted-vpn-traffic/ pls nsa
L1192[14:53:51] <Miyoyo> Also dat NSA malware leak tho
L1193[14:56:32] <S3> Magik6k: IVE F****** GOT IT
L1194[14:56:39] <S3> okay
L1195[14:56:48] <vifino> This evil thing I got is weird.
L1196[14:56:50] <S3> this is going to sound absolutely insane but I have found a way
L1197[14:56:57] <S3> to make access times very fast
L1198[14:56:59] <Magik6k> heh
L1199[14:57:03] <Miyoyo> SSDS!
L1200[14:57:08] <S3> represent the entire disk in a quadtree.
L1201[14:57:25] <vifino> It has cgi-bin and cgi scripts for its web interface, but I can't telnet into it, or do anything other than printing.
L1202[14:57:26] <S3> it would reduce the size of the lookup tables.
L1203[14:57:35] <vifino> I mean, that's kinda the point of a printer, but...
L1204[14:58:27] * Magik6k imagines HDD head moving in 3 dimensions
L1205[14:58:33] <S3> no that's octree
L1206[14:58:38] <S3> octree is 3D
L1207[14:58:41] <S3> quadtree is 2D
L1208[14:58:51] <Magik6k> ah, yup
L1209[14:59:15] <S3> would you like a 3D filesystem?
L1210[14:59:21] <S3> I don't think there's a purpose to that..
L1211[14:59:24] <S3> that'd be... weird
L1212[15:00:33] <S3> the only point of expanding from a single dimension to 2D would be to put imaginary boundries in between
L1213[15:00:38] <S3> for fast lookups
L1214[15:00:45] <S3> with quota stuff
L1215[15:01:02] <S3> which is all just as possible with a single dimension tree
L1216[15:01:42] <S3> with a quadtree, you could place multiple disks in the same quadtree..
L1217[15:02:04] <S3> but it may be easier to use a single dimension tree
L1218[15:02:08] <gamax92> S3: BSP
L1219[15:02:15] <S3> either way, a tree is maybe what we want
L1220[15:02:23] <S3> why have I heard of bsp before..
L1221[15:02:30] <gamax92> Binary Space Partitioning
L1222[15:02:38] <S3> oh yes
L1223[15:02:55] <S3> that's my idea
L1224[15:03:05] <S3> it would benefit both files and database data
L1225[15:03:33] <Kimiro> https://youtu.be/2sB9mKl21X8
L1226[15:03:34] <MichiBot> How to expand palm, 101, exeggutor having a good time (original) | length: 38s | Likes: 542 Dislikes: 6 Views: 6256 | by ZetaBionic
L1227[15:03:35] <S3> so a BSP tree partitioning algorithm
L1228[15:05:04] <Forecaster> Inari: I haven't read anything about the tech :P
L1229[15:05:08] <Forecaster> mostly for that reason
L1230[15:06:41] <Miyoyo> S3: It's a unicks system
L1231[15:06:45] <S3> although gamax92, BSP is usually used for geometry
L1232[15:06:48] <Miyoyo> S3: I know dis
L1233[15:06:51] <gamax92> S3: yes exactly
L1234[15:07:01] <S3> though the idea is similar
L1235[15:07:17] <Miyoyo> Use WADs as filesytem
L1236[15:07:19] <Miyoyo> Why not
L1237[15:07:22] <S3> ...
L1238[15:07:23] <Miyoyo> Every single enemy is a file
L1239[15:07:31] <Miyoyo> Every single partition is a folder
L1240[15:07:36] <Miyoyo> Light level is permission
L1241[15:07:40] <Miyoyo> Height is user
L1242[15:07:52] <S3> I'm definately looking into a data oriented partitioning layer
L1243[15:08:01] <S3> can't even call it a partition table anymore
L1244[15:08:05] <S3> what to call it..
L1245[15:08:16] <Miyoyo> A data drawer
L1246[15:08:32] <S3> ...
L1247[15:08:41] <Miyoyo> What
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L1249[15:09:49] <S3> I think a quadtree will work if the disk is represented in recursive "tracks"
L1250[15:10:05] <S3> imaginary data boundries that group portions of data blocks
L1251[15:10:10] <Miyoyo> A MDDT
L1252[15:10:13] <Miyoyo> Multi-disk data tree
L1253[15:10:14] <S3> mddt?
L1254[15:10:19] <S3> pretty much
L1255[15:10:36] <S3> so the only issue
L1256[15:10:50] <S3> if you want to add more disks later then more than one quadtree would need to be used..
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L1258[15:11:19] <Miyoyo> Just add a branch
L1259[15:11:32] <S3> well then it wouldn't be a quadtree
L1260[15:11:39] <S3> it'd be a wtf tree
L1261[15:11:46] <Miyoyo> A QUINTREE
L1262[15:11:54] <S3> lol
L1263[15:12:05] <S3> HOWEVER
L1264[15:12:14] <Miyoyo> ?
L1265[15:12:18] <vifino> Has anyone overclocked a printer yet?
L1266[15:12:18] <S3> we could modify it so that the root node in the tree can have as many branches as it wants
L1267[15:12:22] <S3> and underneath each is a quadtree
L1268[15:13:10] <S3> Miyoyo: now I just need an addressing system
L1269[15:13:20] <S3> how will a block be addressed?
L1270[15:13:30] <S3> there should be some sort of tree routing number.
L1271[15:13:32] <SpaceWolfve> Bananas
L1272[15:13:44] <S3> which can be used to build an absolute address.
L1273[15:13:44] <SpaceWolfve> Bananas is the answer to all
L1274[15:13:47] <Miyoyo> Disk->Plate->Cylinder->etc
L1275[15:13:55] <S3> no...
L1276[15:13:58] <S3> in the quadtree
L1277[15:14:29] <S3> I could use two bits.. technically
L1278[15:14:29] <S3> but
L1279[15:16:23] <S3> 8 levels of depth per 16 bits if done that way
L1280[15:19:01] <S3> heck one byte can represent 32K of space
L1281[15:20:26] <S3> nope 128K
L1282[15:20:30] <S3> I think
L1283[15:27:14] <Miyoyo> Still, that can be a huge space loss in case of fail
L1284[15:27:59] <S3> yeah..
L1285[15:28:10] <S3> well you'll just need more complicated recovery handling
L1286[15:28:13] <gamax92> one byte corrupted, 128K of data is r.i.p
L1287[15:28:24] <Antheus> rip
L1288[15:28:26] <S3> you'd need to rebuild the tree
L1289[15:28:53] <S3> gotta be a way around that
L1290[15:29:15] <S3> meta data?
L1291[15:29:19] <Kimiro> *rebuilds S3 into a cyborg with laser eyes*
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L1294[15:33:06] <Miyoyo> QUAD TREES
L1295[15:33:08] <Miyoyo> EQUALS
L1296[15:33:10] <Miyoyo> LIIIIIIIIIIIIFE
L1297[15:33:16] <Miyoyo> *Pained robot sounds*
L1298[15:35:06] <S3> the question of how a relative address gets converted is a whole new problem
L1299[15:35:32] <S3> it works in the sense that ocbsd gets some block with some bogus address on it and when it writes it back it just figures it out but
L1300[15:35:53] <S3> how will filesystem translation work for non supporting filesystems, or should filesystems just be forced to be built for it
L1301[15:36:25] <S3> trying to figure out, if filesystem needs block offset 1234, how will the tree find it..
L1302[15:36:48] <S3> I think what I will do is have "owner" entries
L1303[15:36:59] <S3> so every time a block is allocated it is given and owner and is part of a linked list maybe
L1304[15:37:16] <S3> the data tree keeps track of these entries
L1305[15:37:18] <Miyoyo> And for multiple owners?
L1306[15:37:19] <Miyoyo> Groups?
L1307[15:37:28] <S3> no no not unix owners
L1308[15:37:38] <Miyoyo> alrite
L1309[15:37:40] <S3> owner is say like this:
L1310[15:37:50] <S3> lets say you have two ext2 partitions
L1311[15:37:54] <S3> on the data tree
L1312[15:38:03] <S3> the first one will have an owner id
L1313[15:38:06] <S3> and the second will too
L1314[15:38:09] <S3> a different one
L1315[15:38:31] <S3> so it knows which block belongs to whom and somehow,, it can be used to figure out where the data block belongs in address relative to it
L1316[15:39:18] <S3> if I did it right, I could design it so that data tree aware filesystems maybe mrfs or so, could support the new addressing method, so that the data tree can skip the translation
L1317[15:39:24] <S3> speeding it up a lot
L1318[15:39:34] <S3> so downside would be small performance loss on older filesystems
L1319[15:40:12] <Elizabeth> so much for22:35 departure
L1320[15:40:19] <S3> the way this would work is that mrfs and other aware filesystems would need to be capable of keeping track of blocks even if indirectly or dumb like, which are not sequential (one after another)
L1321[15:40:59] <S3> could be done by storing the data tree resolution address instead of a sequential address
L1322[15:41:10] <S3> for entries and pointers
L1323[15:41:46] <S3> I personally favor that idea, but I need input
L1324[15:42:25] <S3> these filesystems such as mrfs could have a flag that represents if it is installed in a data tree or not or something.
L1325[15:42:29] <S3> Magik6k:^
L1326[15:42:41] <S3> so that they would also work the traditional way
L1327[15:44:31] <Magik6k> Could be done
L1328[15:46:26] <Magik6k> And for MrFS it would work without even modyfing data structure
L1329[15:46:42] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_NyGuj my job for today is fulfilled
L1330[15:47:37] <S3> i think this would actually be a great way to handle partitioning on oc, because now you don't allocate a maximum ammount of space. maximum spaces would be more like quotas, and as long as they aren't passed the quota, each set of data will just grow and grow and grow, and there wouldn't be any empty parts of the disk besides blocks waiting to be overwritten
L1331[15:47:37] <S3> with new data
L1332[15:47:55] <S3> the disks would be extremely compact
L1333[15:49:48] <S3> when you allocate a block, you increment to the quota by 1 block, when you delete a block, you just take that number and decrement
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L1337[16:12:18] <TheFox|Mobile> Hello
L1338[16:12:19] <Miyoyo> S3: but if you use variable block size?
L1339[16:12:21] <Miyoyo> Hi fox
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L1342[16:13:51] <TheFox|Mobile> How are you miyoyo?
L1343[16:14:04] <Miyoyo> Nice, it's 23:14 here in belgium
L1344[16:14:19] <Miyoyo> Bit of a headache but Dafalgan(c) makes it all'right(tm)
L1345[16:14:20] <TheFox|Mobile> Its 2pm here
L1346[16:14:33] <Miyoyo> Where in the US
L1347[16:14:35] <Miyoyo> ?
L1348[16:14:40] <TheFox|Mobile> California
L1349[16:14:43] <Miyoyo> Neat
L1350[16:14:52] <Miyoyo> How's comcast treating you over there
L1351[16:15:00] <Miyoyo> Reddit stories look like nightmares
L1352[16:15:17] <TheFox|Mobile> Don't use Comcast, don't pay attention to them
L1353[16:15:22] <Miyoyo> Neat
L1354[16:15:33] <TheFox|Mobile> They lost my service years ago
L1355[16:15:45] <Miyoyo> Heh
L1356[16:16:05] <Miyoyo> Still I can't understand how people can pay up to 100$ usd for such shit service
L1357[16:16:51] <TheFox|Mobile> My friend in va recommended Verizon. So not only am I going through him to get here, but I'm quite pleased with there service atm
L1358[16:17:10] <Miyoyo> How much a month?
L1359[16:17:31] <Miyoyo> I pay ~28 usd (converted from eur) every month for 8mbps here in belgiup
L1360[16:17:32] <TheFox|Mobile> Erm, bout a hundred for 130 mbps
L1361[16:17:36] <Miyoyo> and i'm in a shit place
L1362[16:17:38] <Miyoyo> nice
L1363[16:17:50] <Miyoyo> Sad that I don't have fiber or even VDSL here :/
L1364[16:18:06] <TheFox|Mobile> I didn't know that.
L1365[16:18:15] <Miyoyo> Now you do :D
L1366[16:19:15] <TheFox|Mobile> Only one problem with my wireless speed. I need more to host a server service
L1367[16:19:16] <Miyoyo> Welcome to belgium, enjoy your complementary [There's fiber 6km south of here but we can't get it because "we're not populated enough" and they made a huge detour with the line around your village for no god damn reason] and your soda
L1368[16:19:47] <TheFox|Mobile> :D
L1369[16:20:11] <TheFox|Mobile> Sometimes they do stupid dnshit
L1370[16:20:27] <gamax92> I don't get fiber or ?DSL either :D
L1371[16:20:31] <gamax92> DOCSIS
L1372[16:20:40] <Miyoyo> Literally there's a huge bullseye right on my village that goes [Fiber][VDSL][ADSL2+][ADSL/My village][ADSL2+][VDSL][Fiber]
L1373[16:20:47] <TheFox|Mobile> When they came through with the lines I had Comcast and the cable layers cut my service line
L1374[16:20:55] <Ember_Primrose> o/
L1375[16:21:03] <TheFox|Mobile> Ember! Hi
L1376[16:21:24] <Miyoyo> Hi ember
L1377[16:21:40] <Miyoyo> +gamax92: Still, DOCSIS is WAY faster
L1378[16:21:48] <Ember_Primrose> how are you
L1379[16:21:51] <Miyoyo> +gamax92: Than adsl
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L1381[16:22:13] <gamax92> Why must you plus me :(
L1382[16:22:23] <Miyoyo> I see a plus at the beginning of your name
L1383[16:22:30] <Miyoyo> Maybe it's just this IRC client
L1384[16:22:42] <gamax92> it's your client. the + is because I'm voiced but you're not supposed to see that in messages
L1385[16:22:43] <Miyoyo> Oh you're in god/admin mode das rite
L1386[16:22:52] <TheFox|Mobile> I do
L1387[16:23:07] <Miyoyo> Still gamax
L1388[16:23:09] <TheFox|Mobile> I see it on everything but webchat
L1389[16:23:53] <Miyoyo> Where are you around the world gamax?
L1390[16:23:58] <TheFox|Mobile> I really wish autozone wasn't trying to kill me, here I am replacing my exploded brakes for then 3rd time this year
L1391[16:24:12] <gamax92> Miyoyo: in the US
L1392[16:24:29] <TheFox|Mobile> Really, I thought you where over seas
L1393[16:24:29] <Miyoyo> Damn I'm the only yuropean here rn :/
L1394[16:24:46] <TheFox|Mobile> Miyoyo ATM yes
L1395[16:24:48] <gamax92> Vexatos lives in Germany :>
L1396[16:25:00] <Vexatos> s/Vexatos/vifino
L1397[16:25:00] <MichiBot> <gamax92> vifino lives in Germany :>
L1398[16:25:05] <gamax92> and that
L1399[16:25:13] <TheFox|Mobile> They aren't on right now are they?
L1400[16:25:13] <Vexatos> s/vifino/sangar
L1401[16:25:14] <MichiBot> <gamax92> sangar lives in Germany :>
L1402[16:25:15] <Miyoyo> Well that's the overseas quota
L1403[16:25:18] <gamax92> also that
L1404[16:25:36] <Miyoyo> You get a YUROP APROVED sticker
L1405[16:25:38] <vifino> Well, I am.
L1406[16:25:49] <TheFox|Mobile> Hi vifino
L1407[16:26:01] <Forecaster> I'm a european :P
L1408[16:26:07] <TheFox|Mobile> Really?
L1409[16:26:10] <Miyoyo> Where?
L1410[16:26:17] <TheFox|Mobile> You sound American in your videos
L1411[16:26:39] <TheFox|Mobile> Maybe I should go check again
L1412[16:28:51] <TheFox|Mobile> Yes, you really do sound American forecaster. I cant here an accent from you
L1413[16:28:55] <Miyoyo> Nah you hear the "r"s are not american
L1414[16:29:07] <gamax92> Why must the ice cream truck play play slowly creepy music
L1415[16:29:13] <TheFox|Mobile> Hahaha
L1416[16:29:18] <Miyoyo> Cause It must disturb children
L1417[16:29:23] <Miyoyo> Then they weep
L1418[16:29:29] <Miyoyo> and their parents are creeped out
L1419[16:29:34] <Miyoyo> 'cause of "it"
L1420[16:29:39] <TheFox|Mobile> S/disturb/attract
L1421[16:29:40] <Miyoyo> then they buy ice cream
L1422[16:29:48] <Miyoyo> and then sunshine and rainbows m8
L1423[16:29:54] <TheFox|Mobile> s/disturb/attract
L1424[16:29:55] <MichiBot> <TheFox|Mobile> S/attract/attract
L1425[16:29:59] <TheFox|Mobile> Shit
L1426[16:30:12] <TheFox|Mobile> I'm done with you michibot
L1427[16:30:32] <Miyoyo> Still, I can't pinpoint where forecaster is
L1428[16:30:37] <Miyoyo> this is to little of an accent :/
L1429[16:30:41] <KR> I can!
L1430[16:30:45] <Miyoyo> ?
L1431[16:30:47] <gamax92> A wild KR appeared!
L1432[16:30:49] <KR> Yes
L1433[16:30:56] <TheFox|Mobile> Hello kr
L1434[16:30:58] <KR> Hi
L1435[16:31:00] <Miyoyo> my god.
L1436[16:31:33] <TheFox|Mobile> Miyoyo I can't help you there
L1437[16:31:37] <Miyoyo> aw
L1438[16:31:40] <Miyoyo> but god
L1439[16:31:46] <Miyoyo> you said i can have ice cream
L1440[16:31:46] <KR> Same place as me
L1441[16:32:04] <Miyoyo> He overpronounces is "A"s
L1442[16:32:11] <Miyoyo> this is def not french
L1443[16:32:18] <Forecaster> pretty sure I've told you at some point KR :P
L1444[16:32:31] <Miyoyo> Or is it
L1445[16:32:35] <Miyoyo> But he is hiding it
L1446[16:32:40] <Miyoyo> Sneaky Forecaster
L1447[16:32:45] <KR> Well it's undeniable that I didn't find it out from your accent
L1448[16:32:59] <gamax92> I love when people on reddit cannot spoiler properly
L1449[16:33:00] <KR> Because I'm terrible at recognizing the accent of a fellow person-from-this-country
L1450[16:33:01] <gamax92> "https://www.reddit.com/spoiler&quot;
L1451[16:33:14] <Miyoyo> huh
L1452[16:33:24] <KR> And only people from my country
L1453[16:33:32] <Forecaster> me too, I can't hear accents unless they're really obvious
L1454[16:33:36] <Miyoyo> therefore
L1455[16:33:36] <Forecaster> mostly
L1456[16:33:40] <KR> I assume it's because I've literally lived with that accent my entire life.
L1457[16:33:53] <CompanionCube> VDSL is nice
L1458[16:33:59] <CompanionCube> not sure if we're using v2 though
L1459[16:34:14] <TheFox|Mobile> Kr, that a usually why one can't hear an accent
L1460[16:34:22] <KR> Yeah, I can imagine.
L1461[16:34:35] <Forecaster> I can usually tell when someone's from here though
L1462[16:35:01] <Forecaster> as long as they're not quite fluent
L1463[16:36:13] <Miyoyo> BUT WHAT IF
L1464[16:36:15] <Miyoyo> just WHAT IF
L1465[16:36:19] <Miyoyo> you are european
L1466[16:36:26] <Miyoyo> But you moved to the US
L1467[16:36:39] <Forecaster> I've never set foot outside of europe
L1468[16:36:40] <Forecaster> :P
L1469[16:36:49] <Miyoyo> Not even north africa?
L1470[16:36:53] <Forecaster> no
L1471[16:36:57] <Miyoyo> Aw
L1472[16:37:01] <Forecaster> and I've not left the country at all in years
L1473[16:37:04] <TheFox|Mobile> Miyoyo: those people stand out like a sore thumb, its easy
L1474[16:37:14] <Forecaster> we used to travel a bit when I was young
L1475[16:37:14] <Miyoyo> Aw
L1476[16:38:02] <Miyoyo> Does your native language use special characters? such as accents or other things
L1477[16:38:15] <Forecaster> yes
L1478[16:38:33] <Miyoyo> North/south of europe?
L1479[16:38:42] <Miyoyo> No, yes isn't an acceptable answer
L1480[16:38:49] <Forecaster> not that that narrows down a lot, many languages have special characters :P
L1481[16:39:59] <Miyoyo> Honestly with your "a" and "r" you don't sound french
L1482[16:40:00] <Miyoyo> at all
L1483[16:40:11] <Miyoyo> so I can eliminate France and southern belgium
L1484[16:40:12] <Forecaster> that's correct
L1485[16:40:54] <Miyoyo> Is your language latin based, germanic based or none of the mentioned?
L1486[16:41:00] <KR> This is amusing to watch
L1487[16:41:12] <Forecaster> uh
L1488[16:41:22] <KR> germanic
L1489[16:41:26] <Miyoyo> Amazing
L1490[16:41:32] <Forecaster> yep
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L1492[16:42:10] <Miyoyo> does your language use accents
L1493[16:42:14] <Miyoyo> just accents
L1494[16:42:38] <Forecaster> yes, though only fairly rarely
L1495[16:42:41] <Miyoyo> Dutch
L1496[16:42:46] <Forecaster> no
L1497[16:42:48] <Miyoyo> Damnit
L1498[16:43:07] <Miyoyo> Danish
L1499[16:43:11] <Forecaster> no
L1500[16:43:27] <KR> close tho
L1501[16:43:37] <Miyoyo> Another german?
L1502[16:43:45] <Forecaster> nope
L1503[16:43:54] <Miyoyo> Liesh... liechs... that tiny country around lux?
L1504[16:44:13] <Miyoyo> Or austria
L1505[16:44:14] <Miyoyo> last chance
L1506[16:44:18] <Forecaster> none of those
L1507[16:44:28] <Miyoyo> God damnit
L1508[16:44:32] <Miyoyo> cmon guise gimme a clue
L1509[16:44:38] <Vexatos> He is almost finnish but not at all :3
L1510[16:44:38] <KR> You were close then you took a wrong turn
L1511[16:45:00] <Miyoyo> What, an ikea? (sorry)
L1512[16:45:05] <CompanionCube> Norwegian?
L1513[16:45:25] <Forecaster> xD
L1514[16:45:27] <Miyoyo> I'm laughing alone in my room
L1515[16:45:30] <Miyoyo> i'm a terrible person
L1516[16:45:52] <Miyoyo> Still swedish is nord
L1517[16:45:58] <Miyoyo> so that's not really possivle
L1518[16:46:03] <KR> Why is it not?
L1519[16:46:14] <Forecaster> what do you mena?
L1520[16:46:17] <Forecaster> mean*
L1521[16:46:20] <Miyoyo> It's not German it's Nordic-based
L1522[16:46:25] <Miyoyo> (mostly)
L1523[16:46:27] <KR> Yes it is Germanic
L1524[16:46:31] <KR> Northern Germanic
L1525[16:46:38] <Miyoyo> Or is germanic Nordic based
L1526[16:46:40] <KR> Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish are all Northern Germanic
L1527[16:46:45] <Miyoyo> OR IS NORDIC GERMANIC BASED
L1528[16:46:56] <KR> Nordic is Northern Germanic lol
L1529[16:47:01] * Miyoyo blew his own mind by his own stupidity
L1530[16:47:13] <Miyoyo> No but really, swedish?
L1531[16:47:15] <KR> Yes
L1532[16:47:20] <Miyoyo> nice
L1533[16:47:32] <Miyoyo> Knew those Rs and As weren't Native proud freedoms
L1534[16:47:33] <Forecaster> yep, that's correct
L1535[16:47:54] <gamax92> How do you pronounce your Zed
L1536[16:48:11] <Forecaster> I switch
L1537[16:48:13] <Miyoyo> "Zeta" ?
L1538[16:48:24] <Forecaster> sometimes I say zee sometimes zed
L1539[16:49:02] <Miyoyo> On a scale of one to ten how horrible of a person am i to have called you an ikea?
L1540[16:49:09] <KR> rofl
L1541[16:49:16] <Temia> Could be worse
L1542[16:49:26] <Temia> Could've said "børk børk børk"
L1543[16:49:32] <Forecaster> I don't particularly care
L1544[16:49:40] <Miyoyo> stop i can't breath
L1545[16:49:56] <Vexatos> Forecaster, worst is w
L1546[16:49:58] <Vexatos> "wlan" pls
L1547[16:50:10] <Forecaster> :P
L1548[16:50:27] <Forecaster> Vexatos is somewhat picky about pronounsiation
L1549[16:50:41] <Forecaster> I'm apparently not pronouncing his name right
L1550[16:51:01] <Vexatos> "Vexatoes" >_>
L1551[16:51:07] <Vexatos> why would anyone say that :(
L1552[16:51:15] <Forecaster> or maybe I'm doing it on purpose
L1553[16:51:17] <Forecaster> who knows
L1554[16:51:29] <Miyoyo> My god in french that would be "Vexato"
L1555[16:51:46] <KR> I can see how Vexatos can be pronounced "Vexatoes"
L1556[16:51:54] <Forecaster> just like I always intentionally misspell Comritronisc
L1557[16:51:57] <Miyoyo> The question stays
L1558[16:51:58] <Vexatos> Miyoyo, I know >_>
L1559[16:52:01] <CompanionCube> inb4 Vexatoast
L1560[16:52:03] <Miyoyo> is Vexatoes tickly?
L1561[16:52:16] <Miyoyo> Or should I say
L1562[16:52:27] <Miyoyo> Are vexatos's vexatoes tickly?
L1563[16:52:33] <Forecaster> s/like/like how/
L1564[16:52:33] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> just like how I always intentionally misspell Comritronisc
L1565[16:52:35] <gamax92> :I I say Vexatoes too
L1566[16:52:53] <Miyoyo> I'd say Vecksatossssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss and then die of a creeper
L1567[16:52:57] <gamax92> but more like Vexatous
L1568[16:53:02] <Vexatos> Vexatoss D:<
L1569[16:53:29] * Vexatos tosses gamax92 around
L1570[16:53:29] <KR> Växatås
L1571[16:53:39] <Forecaster> xD
L1572[16:53:39] <Vexatos> KR: pretty much
L1573[16:53:47] <Vexatos> That is actually pretty damn close .P
L1574[16:53:59] <Miyoyo> Véxataus
L1575[16:54:15] <Miyoyo> or Vèxataus?
L1576[16:54:18] <Vexatos> It's still a silent s though, no?
L1577[16:54:19] <gamax92> Vaeiouxataoueis
L1578[16:54:53] <Miyoyo> I don't think so
L1579[16:55:15] <Miyoyo> You know french Vex?
L1580[16:55:30] <Vexatos> Only semantically :P
L1581[16:55:34] <Miyoyo> Aw
L1582[16:55:41] <Elizabeth> And I'm back in the UK
L1583[16:55:42] <Miyoyo> I Don't know a word of german :(
L1584[16:55:50] <Eleria> Hallo
L1585[16:55:55] <Vexatos> Miyoyo, it's more of an è
L1586[16:55:55] <Eleria> (You know that)
L1587[16:55:57] <Elizabeth> Ich bin Lizzy
L1588[16:56:00] <Miyoyo> Still
L1589[16:56:01] <Eleria> ^
L1590[16:56:06] <Miyoyo> Vex is said like english
L1591[16:56:11] <Miyoyo> so Vexataus could be good
L1592[16:56:16] <Miyoyo> but the end could be silent
L1593[16:56:24] <Miyoyo> Vexatausse?
L1594[16:56:30] <Miyoyo> Sounds like Vexatoes
L1595[16:56:43] <Miyoyo> Vexatauss
L1596[16:56:50] <Miyoyo> But that's wierd to write
L1597[16:57:11] <Vexatos> More like "Vexàtoss" :>
L1598[16:57:19] <Miyoyo> You can't do that
L1599[16:57:25] <Vexatos> Not in french
L1600[16:57:28] <Miyoyo> aw
L1601[16:57:28] <Miyoyo> k
L1602[16:57:37] <Vexatos> I just showed the pronounciation of the a in particular :P
L1603[16:57:48] <Vexatos> And you stress the first syllable :P
L1604[16:58:07] <Vexatos> Vexatauss would stress the last I guess :P
L1605[16:58:51] <Forecaster> I already know how to pronounce it now (I think) but I like vexatoes better :P
L1606[16:59:08] <KR> Vöxötös
L1607[17:00:03] <Miyoyo> It's midnight, I'm watching Mr robot online eating radishes
L1608[17:00:08] <Miyoyo> what am i doing with my life
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L1610[17:00:22] <Vexatos> Väckçatåss D:
L1611[17:00:45] *** Gavle is now known as Gavle|Away
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L1613[17:02:43] <Miyoyo> Who else is addicted to radishes?
L1614[17:05:18] * vifino sighs
L1615[17:05:33] * vifino has to go to bed without Lizzy :(
L1616[17:06:10] <Miyoyo> Get a daikimakura
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L1618[17:08:44] <Miyoyo> It's only max 65€, not that expensive
L1619[17:11:43] <GreaseMonkey> KR: you're doing it wrong it's Vexatos̈
L1620[17:12:21] <KR> Vëẍäẗös̈
L1621[17:12:36] <Miyoyo> put tremas everywhere
L1622[17:12:37] <GreaseMonkey> that's better
L1623[17:12:49] <KR> Most Metal name of 2016
L1624[17:13:12] <GreaseMonkey> second-most actually, the most metal name is V̈ëẍäẗös̈
L1625[17:13:40] <GreaseMonkey> wait, they stack
L1626[17:13:59] <GreaseMonkey> Vexatö̈̈̈̈̈s
L1627[17:14:02] <KR> lmao
L1628[17:14:02] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey: they do stack, hence zalgo
L1629[17:14:10] <Miyoyo> I wonder
L1630[17:14:15] <GreaseMonkey> ok that broke on quassel, it shoved the dots on the s
L1631[17:14:33] <Miyoyo> What kind of asshat bought 20 damn prepaid cards to play pokémon go with?
L1632[17:14:49] <Miyoyo> Cause now no mo' pokémon go in belgium for my provider
L1633[17:14:49] <Stary> o_O
L1634[17:14:54] <Stary> Miyoyo: wtf
L1635[17:15:11] <Miyoyo> This asshat got the SINGLE ip our provider used banned by niantic
L1636[17:15:21] <Miyoyo> (why a single IP that's beyond me)
L1637[17:15:24] <Miyoyo> and now
L1638[17:15:34] <Ember_Primrose> night guys
L1639[17:15:36] <Miyoyo> No mo pokémon go
L1640[17:15:37] <Miyoyo> nite
L1641[17:15:47] <Stary> o_o
L1642[17:18:53] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey: Quassel has fuck awful text rendering
L1643[17:19:17] <Miyoyo> What do you use for a IRC client?
L1644[17:19:21] <gamax92> Quassel :(
L1645[17:19:27] <Miyoyo> heh
L1646[17:19:34] <gamax92> in most of the time there is not common unicode it shoves all of the text down a little bit
L1647[17:19:47] <gamax92> and on Windows it shoves everything down a pixel so I can't see underscores
L1648[17:20:00] <Miyoyo> I'm shit in IRC client
L1649[17:20:06] <Miyoyo> So I took AdilIRC
L1650[17:20:11] <Miyoyo> It's meh
L1651[17:20:15] <Miyoyo> average
L1652[17:20:54] <gamax92> I'd much rather be using HexChat
L1653[17:21:38] <gamax92> QuasselDroid runs great though, besides hard to read highlights on dark theme which is easily fixable
L1654[17:21:44] <Miyoyo> Why not port libpurple for OC?
L1655[17:21:51] <gamax92> because never heard of it
L1656[17:22:02] <Miyoyo> You never heard of libpurple?
L1657[17:22:32] <Miyoyo> Pidgin's chat lib
L1658[17:22:32] <gamax92> Yes, hence why I just said I've never heard of it
L1659[17:22:36] <gamax92> Never used it
L1660[17:23:14] <Miyoyo> T's a C lib
L1661[17:23:18] <Miyoyo> But still
L1662[17:23:28] <Miyoyo> (Why don't we have luarocks for oc)
L1663[17:23:40] <Miyoyo> (That would be hard I know :( )
L1664[17:24:03] <gamax92> Well everything on Luarocks that is a native library or needs native libraries wouldn't work
L1665[17:24:25] <Miyoyo> Doesn't OpenComputers have a native DLL?
L1666[17:24:36] <gamax92> sure, doesn't mean you can load other native dlls
L1667[17:24:40] <Miyoyo> Aw
L1668[17:25:04] <gamax92> I can't download luasocket on an OC computer and then load it, it's hidden away by the sandbox, nor doesn't work properly iirc
L1669[17:25:26] <Miyoyo> Just need to make tunnels
L1670[17:25:33] <Miyoyo> like
L1671[17:25:42] <Miyoyo> add nativelib.require("name")
L1672[17:26:04] <gamax92> Miyoyo: connect to an external lua process over the internet?
L1673[17:26:15] <Miyoyo> Nah
L1674[17:26:18] <Miyoyo> just like
L1675[17:26:19] <gamax92> then I don't understand
L1676[17:26:26] <Miyoyo> the computer lib
L1677[17:26:29] <Miyoyo> add a native lib
L1678[17:26:34] <gamax92> If you mean on the actual server hosting OC then absolutely not, security risk
L1679[17:26:35] <Miyoyo> that can load dlls/sos
L1680[17:27:00] <Miyoyo> Security risks are fun :D
L1681[17:30:02] <Miyoyo> Shit my HD sound bad
L1682[17:30:15] <gamax92> :Ɔ
L1683[17:30:21] <Miyoyo> Unicode error
L1684[17:30:36] <gamax92> wtf how do you not have basic Latin character support.
L1685[17:30:46] <Miyoyo> AdilIRC is shit apparently
L1686[17:30:54] <gamax92> %flip Miyoyo
L1687[17:30:55] <MichiBot> gamax92: (╯°□°）╯oʎoʎıW
L1688[17:31:02] <Miyoyo> :(
L1689[17:31:10] <Miyoyo> What char is it?
L1690[17:32:33] <gamax92> I'm gonna switch OS
L1691[17:32:38] <Miyoyo> k
L1692[17:32:52] * gamax92 gives Miyoyo a strawberry
L1693[17:33:15] * Miyoyo cleans it under tap water, removes the stem and eats it without checking it for hazmat
L1694[17:34:09] <Miyoyo> UGH MY HARD DRIVE :(
L1695[17:35:14] * Forecaster hands Miyoyo a virus-scanner for strawberries
L1696[17:35:38] * Miyoyo vomits the strawberry, realizes it's not even a berry, has a mind failiure and crashes
L1697[17:37:31] <gamax92> :(
L1698[17:38:15] <Miyoyo> I need to replace my god damn HDD
L1699[17:38:21] <Miyoyo> and I don't have any replacements
L1700[17:38:43] <Miyoyo> My god everything is falling apart around me
L1701[17:39:05] <Miyoyo> My laptop's charger is broken, My phone doesn't work and now my HDD is dying
L1702[17:43:00] <Forecaster> it's all falling apart! abandon ship!
L1703[17:43:06] * Forecaster jumps out an airlock
L1704[17:43:06] <Miyoyo> Indeed
L1705[17:43:18] * Miyoyo suffocates 'cause this is the space age
L1706[17:44:31] <Temia> Welp.
L1707[17:44:37] * Temia breaks into EVA and steals a space suit.
L1708[17:44:54] * Miyoyo burns because of the UV rays
L1709[17:44:56] * Temia is promptly gunned down by shitcurity for daring to save her own skin when the whole place is coming apart. :(
L1710[17:45:53] * Skye closes the door to the server room
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L1712[17:53:57] <S3> test
L1713[17:55:52] * Inari sighs
L1714[17:55:56] <Inari> i hate the downsides of mass production
L1715[17:55:56] <Inari> :P
L1716[17:56:22] <Inari> lets use this 140mhz PC to basically read and send 2 bytes every 60 seconds
L1717[17:56:25] <Inari> :|
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L1719[17:57:51] <Miyoyo> How fast is opencomputers in mhz?
L1720[17:58:10] <Vexatos> |-----------------| this much
L1721[17:58:18] <Daiyousei> a small loan
L1722[17:58:24] <Miyoyo> 22Mhz?
L1723[17:58:35] <Miyoyo> 192.516Mhz?
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L1725[17:58:54] <Daiyousei> a few mhz
L1726[18:00:11] <Forecaster> like a medium sized house
L1727[18:00:58] <Inari> Miyoyo: its not really easily puti nto mhz
L1728[18:01:03] <Miyoyo> Well
L1729[18:01:11] <Miyoyo> Ops?
L1730[18:01:18] <Inari> there are no "ops"
L1731[18:01:26] <Skye> depends on the host server
L1732[18:01:33] <Miyoyo> Isn't there a max speed?
L1733[18:01:40] <Skye> nope
L1734[18:01:59] <Inari> the only speed limit should be that you ahve to yield and that you're being force-yielded at times
L1735[18:02:02] <Inari> so, not really
L1736[18:02:35] <Inari> *remote temperature sensor that basically just needs to transmit bytes every 60 seconds" "ARm cortex procesor"
L1737[18:02:37] <Inari> i mean sure, whynot
L1738[18:02:48] <S3> Miyoyo: you should instead judge it on flops, not hz
L1739[18:02:52] <Skye> AVR is cheaper
L1740[18:02:54] <S3> how many megaflops
L1741[18:02:59] <Miyoyo> kilo*
L1742[18:03:01] <S3> :D
L1743[18:03:04] <Miyoyo> :3
L1744[18:03:04] <Inari> Skye: its stilla blood overpowered mcu
L1745[18:03:15] <S3> which will differentiate based on the system which it runs
L1746[18:03:15] <Skye> true
L1747[18:03:36] <Inari> meh, i just hate using some 140mhz thingy for jobs like this :P
L1748[18:03:46] <S3> Skye: AVR is annoying
L1749[18:03:56] <Skye> S3, what is wrong with AVR?
L1750[18:03:59] <S3> I don't like port based IO mcus.
L1751[18:04:19] <Miyoyo> Don't tell me PIC is better than AVR
L1752[18:04:20] <S3> it's very slow
L1753[18:04:27] <S3> I don't like PIC
L1754[18:04:41] <Miyoyo> What MCUs do you like then?
L1755[18:04:49] <Miyoyo> inb4 none
L1756[18:04:55] <S3> it depends. I still use AVR, just not often, only for really small things
L1757[18:05:07] <gamax92> Miyoyo: the ones you can dip in salsa and eat
L1758[18:05:11] <S3> I often favor the WDC65C02 for a lot of stuff.
L1759[18:05:14] <Miyoyo> Neat
L1760[18:05:19] <Miyoyo> Personally
L1761[18:05:21] <Miyoyo> I hate java
L1762[18:05:25] <Miyoyo> and Java
L1763[18:05:30] <Miyoyo> Also known as C#
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L1765[18:05:57] <S3> the modern cmos 6502s are very nice, just as easy to wire up, and are quite forgiving.
L1766[18:06:07] <S3> and they expose the full address / data bus.
L1767[18:06:10] <gamax92> S3: what about the older ones
L1768[18:06:19] <S3> I have an NMOS one
L1769[18:06:28] <S3> the problem with the NMOS one is that they have to continue running
L1770[18:06:49] <S3> if the nmos 6502s slow down too much or run too fast they lose the data in their registers
L1771[18:07:01] <S3> cmos 6502s can be stopped completely
L1772[18:07:06] <S3> so you can do step through debginning
L1773[18:07:13] <S3> debugging*
L1774[18:07:15] <Kimiro> Hello Miyoyo. Shall I fetch the melted wax? :P
L1775[18:07:34] <Miyoyo> Meh, I'm not that into heat really ;)
L1776[18:07:35] <S3> gamax92: plus the wdc 6502 can come in surface mount form factor :D
L1777[18:07:48] * Kimiro giggles
L1778[18:08:51] <S3> AVR is great, but for some of my projects I really need a lot of IO. the problem with port based IO, is that for example AVR and PIC, there are direction data registers (DDR in AVR)
L1779[18:08:52] <S3> iirc
L1780[18:09:06] <S3> or I may be thinking of the gpio in cortex M
L1781[18:09:07] <S3> but still
L1782[18:09:23] <S3> every time you want to change from input to output, you need to waste a whole cpu cycle
L1783[18:09:42] <S3> so using port io is troublesome
L1784[18:09:49] <Miyoyo> COMING SOON
L1785[18:09:53] <S3> ?
L1786[18:09:55] <Miyoyo> OC AVR ARCH
L1787[18:09:56] <Miyoyo> :D
L1788[18:10:04] <S3> Miyoyo: that would be kind of neat personally
L1789[18:10:05] <Inari> why woudl you want ot change from input to output ?.?
L1790[18:10:15] <Miyoyo> Even better than a night with Kimiro :D
L1791[18:10:16] <Temia> Inari: I²C?
L1792[18:10:24] <Temia> I2C rather.
L1793[18:10:25] <S3> Inari: imagine you need some sort of bidirectional data bus
L1794[18:10:28] <Temia> Not IC².
L1795[18:10:32] <Inari> i guess :P i thoguht most have i2c modules
L1796[18:10:44] <S3> not everything supports i^2c...
L1797[18:10:53] <Inari> blaaaaaah
L1798[18:10:54] <S3> and i^2c is awesome but very problematic
L1799[18:10:56] <Inari> amd fix your crap D:
L1800[18:10:58] <Kimiro> Miyoyo: Psh, as if you know~
L1801[18:11:02] <Miyoyo> ~
L1802[18:11:08] <S3> because most frigging i^2c chips have hard wired i^2c addresses which often suck
L1803[18:11:10] <ping> ic2 vs spi
L1804[18:11:21] <Miyoyo> .ping ping
L1805[18:11:23] <Inari> i wonder how you'd make a remote temp sensor that doesnt havea mcu
L1806[18:11:26] <ping> hard wired i2c chips fucking suckkkk
L1807[18:11:49] <S3> ping: there's also can, which is kinda neat
L1808[18:11:59] <S3> it uses a differential transmission style
L1809[18:11:59] <Miyoyo> I ate 80 grams of strawberry ice cream
L1810[18:12:06] <Miyoyo> and I don't even feel bad
L1811[18:12:12] <Inari> 80 grams isnt a lot
L1812[18:12:19] <Miyoyo> 800*
L1813[18:12:24] <Inari> ah :P
L1814[18:12:25] <Inari> im going to eat 50 grams of chocolate now \o/
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L1817[18:12:35] <S3> this is what can looks like https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5e/CAN-Bus-frame_in_base_format_without_stuffbits.svg/2000px-CAN-Bus-frame_in_base_format_without_stuffbits.svg.png
L1818[18:12:37] <Miyoyo> Vector!
L1819[18:12:56] <S3> by using a differential signal, error correction can be done
L1820[18:13:00] <ping> S3, yeah im familiar with CAN
L1821[18:13:01] <gamax92> lol, running a dx11 game on a dx10.1 card. :D
L1822[18:13:02] <ping> IRL also
L1823[18:13:08] <S3> I've never used it myself
L1824[18:13:12] <gamax92> the framerate is horrid though
L1825[18:13:16] <S3> I've thought about it
L1826[18:13:17] <Miyoyo> I used to have a 4350
L1827[18:13:20] <ping> its good
L1828[18:13:29] <Miyoyo> 16 shader cores doe
L1829[18:13:30] <gamax92> Inari: don't do it :(
L1830[18:13:40] <S3> ping: did you ever see my minecraft serial IO thing that worked with WRCBE?
L1831[18:13:45] <gamax92> Miyoyo: Radeon?
L1832[18:13:47] <S3> it used the same protocol n64 controllers do
L1833[18:13:47] <Miyoyo> Ye
L1834[18:13:49] <ping> i2c would be nicer if addresses were negotiable in protocol
L1835[18:13:51] <gamax92> 4770 here
L1836[18:13:53] <ping> S3, no
L1837[18:13:59] <Miyoyo> 16 shader cores 128mb ram
L1838[18:14:01] <Miyoyo> Still have it
L1839[18:14:03] <gamax92> r.i.p
L1840[18:14:12] <Miyoyo> now i've got a 97°
L1841[18:14:32] <S3> http://www.larsivar.com/cp/images/n64_Pulses.png
L1842[18:14:33] <gamax92> 97°C
L1843[18:14:36] <S3> ping: that's how it works in mine
L1844[18:14:44] <S3> the 1's and 0's can be as long as they want
L1845[18:14:52] <S3> to compensate for lag or whatever
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L1847[18:15:08] <ping> S3, kinda like a self clocking signal?
L1848[18:15:12] <S3> yep.
L1849[18:15:16] <S3> it was very slow though
L1850[18:15:20] <ping> yeah
L1851[18:15:26] <gamax92> S3: what if you hold the voltage in the middle of a 1 or 0
L1852[18:15:29] <S3> but it was nice because you could send morse code with it
L1853[18:15:42] <S3> you could connect it to a beep in OC
L1854[18:15:49] <S3> so you coulkd listen to what your network was saying
L1855[18:15:54] <gamax92> like right on the threshold of detection
L1856[18:16:15] <S3> gamax92: on can bus?
L1857[18:16:27] <ping> S3, ever done manchester encoding hardware?
L1858[18:16:31] <Kimiro> *prods gamax92*
L1859[18:16:33] <S3> I think thatl void your warranty gamax92
L1860[18:16:38] <gamax92> S3: I don't know, pick your favorite device that would die horribly by doing so
L1861[18:16:40] <S3> ping: nope
L1862[18:16:59] <ping> if its a CAN bus all the nodes would just yield
L1863[18:17:20] <ping> CAN is super reliable
L1864[18:17:23] <ping> like insanely
L1865[18:17:30] <S3> can is used in cars
L1866[18:17:31] <S3> it has to be
L1867[18:17:37] * Kimiro makes ping yield
L1868[18:17:40] <S3> I'm thinking of using can for my PLC project
L1869[18:17:47] <S3> designing an open source PLC
L1870[18:18:16] <S3> this manchester thing looks very similar.. to something I did once
L1871[18:18:22] <S3> or looked at in my sequential circuit class
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L1873[18:19:52] <Miyoyo> It even supports hdmo
L1874[18:19:55] <Miyoyo> hdmi*
L1875[18:20:27] <S3> apparently propeller is also a neat arch
L1876[18:21:34] <S3> Miyoyo: so an idea I had a while back
L1877[18:21:43] <S3> Miyoyo: if I made an FPGA in lua would you use it in OC?
L1878[18:21:53] <Miyoyo> FPGA?
L1879[18:21:57] <S3> ok..
L1880[18:22:00] <Miyoyo> Probably for learning algorithms
L1881[18:22:06] <ping> lol
L1882[18:22:07] <Miyoyo> That would be nice
L1883[18:22:09] <S3> wait what
L1884[18:22:24] <S3> learning algorithms on an FPGA?
L1885[18:22:31] <Miyoyo> ON fpga no
L1886[18:22:41] <Miyoyo> but on OC modifying the FPGA to get the best perf
L1887[18:22:43] <Miyoyo> YES
L1888[18:23:02] <S3> my only reason for doing it was to make redstone circuits in OC
L1889[18:23:06] <S3> much more practically
L1890[18:23:12] <S3> just define them in a simple HDL
L1891[18:23:21] <S3> and then use the bundle cables or some shit Idk
L1892[18:24:34] <Miyoyo> I've got the chipset exposed
L1893[18:26:02] <S3> idea #2
L1894[18:26:04] <Inari> this naime girls :s
L1895[18:26:12] <Skye> wat
L1896[18:26:14] <Inari> "I never had a barium enema before! Im so excited"
L1897[18:26:14] <Inari> wat
L1898[18:26:17] <S3> make an FPGA mod that lets you program it with OC or CC
L1899[18:26:19] <Miyoyo> Anybody whant a pic of the MyhicEw
L1900[18:26:23] <Miyoyo> EW
L1901[18:26:26] <S3> would that be better?
L1902[18:26:29] <ping> i would like to see an everything chip, supports master/slave of all the protocols (UART, I2C, CAN, SPI, USB, HDMI, IEEE 802.3 based link layers (like ethernet) and high frequency programmable chip if you want to do some bit-banging
L1903[18:26:30] <Miyoyo> Yeah S3
L1904[18:26:56] <S3> I would need to make some sort of HDL for it or verlog
L1905[18:26:59] <S3> in Lua
L1906[18:27:04] <S3> verilog*
L1907[18:27:36] <S3> OOH
L1908[18:27:40] <Miyoyo> ?
L1909[18:27:40] <S3> I can make a lucid compiler
L1910[18:27:49] <S3> lucid is a new HDL similar to C and such
L1911[18:28:29] <Miyoyo> I want to take a picture of my old GPU's chip but my phone is broken
L1912[18:28:30] <KR> Yes, making FPGAs into a mod instead would be great.
L1913[18:29:28] <S3> KR: it'd be like the IC making mod, but no table or anything to program it, just a programmer to put it into for a computer, and the chip itself would have say four bundle cables on it one on each side maybe
L1914[18:29:43] <S3> or would work with just plain redstone wires if you wanted
L1915[18:29:44] <KR> Think it would be even better if it was possible to make them and program them without requiring OC/CC as well.
L1916[18:29:53] <S3> how would you do it
L1917[18:30:09] <S3> that's the main reason I never tried it
L1918[18:30:14] <S3> never found a good way to do that
L1919[18:30:59] <KR> TBH I would've gone for essentially having some sort of special block/table/whatever to program them.
L1920[18:31:38] <KR> Adding support for programming them from OC/CC would be cool too, but it feels rather arbitrary of a dependency to only really need it for programming the FPGAs.
L1921[18:32:03] <KR> I mean, needing OC/CC, and only needing one of those mods for that one purpose.
L1922[18:32:07] <S3> yeah but then I'd need to make a programming table, etc
L1923[18:32:19] <S3> kind of a waste of my time
L1924[18:32:19] <S3> lol
L1925[18:32:21] <KR> Yeah, unfortunately.
L1926[18:32:33] <Lizzy> and home
L1927[18:32:47] <S3> Lizzy: ideas!
L1928[18:33:08] <KR> Could definitely use OC/CC as a basis, and maybe later on add a separate programming table for it.
L1929[18:33:25] <KR> Just my 2 cents.
L1930[18:33:26] <S3> KR: I've thought of making some online repo
L1931[18:33:35] <S3> that you can browse through and download HDL programs for it but
L1932[18:33:43] <S3> as well as submit them
L1933[18:33:46] <Lizzy> S3, eh?
L1934[18:33:52] <S3> Lizzy: FPGA mod
L1935[18:33:58] <S3> programmable via OC / CC maybe
L1936[18:34:35] <S3> KR: could just say tough luck and promote OC by making it an OC addon mod
L1937[18:34:36] <Lizzy> i just got home and i'm no sure if i can be bothered to read the backlog
L1938[18:34:41] <S3> comes with programming table and fpga chip
L1939[18:34:47] <KR> lol
L1940[18:35:30] <KR> I just think an FPGA mod would be really cool even on its own.
L1941[18:37:46] <Miyoyo> One thing I'd like OC to have is bigger EEPROMs for µc
L1942[18:37:50] <S3> wonder
L1943[18:37:57] <S3> optional WR-CBE support for fpga mod?
L1944[18:38:07] <S3> that would be really attractive I think
L1945[18:39:57] <S3> actually here's an idea
L1946[18:40:08] <S3> addons for the fpga mod, call the mod SoC FPGA mod
L1947[18:40:15] <S3> addons add features you can use for it
L1948[18:41:19] <S3> but yeah optional stock wrcbe support would be cool
L1949[18:41:22] <S3> for wireless fpga stuff
L1950[18:42:02] <S3> KR: a cool thing about FPGA stuff is that you can have a counter that increments by redstone tick..
L1951[18:42:10] <S3> or decrements
L1952[18:42:17] <S3> so you can sync stuff
L1953[18:42:51] <KR> Sure
L1954[18:43:49] <S3> some people may find the mod a bit op
L1955[18:44:10] <Miyoyo> It's a FPGA
L1956[18:44:17] <Miyoyo> It's nowhere as OP as CC or OC
L1957[18:44:17] <S3> I say screw them
L1958[18:44:21] <S3> lolo
L1959[18:44:38] <CompanionCube> you could add 'balance' or 'realism' by enforcing limits on logic gates and stuff
L1960[18:44:43] <CompanionCube> like an irl fpga
L1961[18:44:48] <S3> CompanionCube: that would be hard
L1962[18:44:57] <S3> irl fpgas don't really do that either
L1963[18:45:21] <S3> CompanionCube: gate count on an fpga is a very relative, innacurate, and misleading number
L1964[18:45:31] <S3> with just ONE SINGLE LUT
L1965[18:45:40] <S3> you can represent an infinite ammount of gates, in theory
L1966[18:45:47] <CompanionCube> in practice?
L1967[18:46:07] <S3> yes
L1968[18:46:17] <S3> when you make a gate in an FPGA
L1969[18:46:21] <S3> you aren't "taking up a gate"
L1970[18:46:34] <S3> FPGAs are represented as RAM
L1971[18:46:43] <S3> or memory none the less rather
L1972[18:47:13] <S3> CompanionCube: imagine you have only a few bits.
L1973[18:47:27] <S3> imagine you have a total of two bits of addressing
L1974[18:47:36] <S3> at address 00, you get a 0
L1975[18:47:42] <S3> address 01, you get a 0
L1976[18:47:45] <S3> 10, you get a 0
L1977[18:47:48] <S3> and then 11 you get a 1
L1978[18:48:04] <S3> wow, you made a circuit that, when optimized and reduced, resembles an and gate.
L1979[18:49:03] <S3> now
L1980[18:49:17] <S3> FPGAs typically use LUTs, which are often either 5 or 6 bit input
L1981[18:49:27] <S3> granted, a 6 bit LUT is actually usually 5 bits
L1982[18:49:41] <S3> with a multiplexer
L1983[18:49:59] <S3> like having two luts in one almost
L1984[18:56:00] <gamax92> S3: two birds with one stone!
L1985[18:56:12] <S3> ?
L1986[18:56:16] <S3> ...
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L2061[23:00:23] <infinitysamurai> Hi everyone! Could someone answer a quick question for me?
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L2064[23:08:11] <Temia> Shoot.
L2065[23:08:36] <infinitysamurai> Does OC have a similar functionality to CC where you can have a command computer that allows you to run minecraft commands?
L2066[23:09:40] <Temia> That would be provided by the debug card, I believe.
L2067[23:10:02] <Temia> It's got a host of other powerful creative-only tools too.
L2068[23:10:15] <Temia> ~w debug component
L2069[23:10:15] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:debug
L2070[23:11:24] <infinitysamurai> Oh excellent, thank you very much. I've been wanting CC to update so that I could build better minigame/adventure style maps but that appears to not be making much progress. This could work very well.
L2071[23:11:25] <infinitysamurai> Thanks again
L2072[23:11:44] <Temia> You're welcome!
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L2074[23:14:07] <Izaya> https://i.imgur.com/2HdSuLF.png I think this is the hardest I've ever run this box
L2075[23:14:35] <Izaya> Fun fact Shawn|4650M
L2076[23:14:40] <Izaya> That site doesn't work without javascript
L2077[23:15:01] <Shawn|4650M> indeed
L2078[23:15:12] <Shawn|4650M> its a pure java screenshot grabber
L2079[23:15:21] <Izaya> No no
L2080[23:15:23] <Izaya> I mean
L2081[23:15:27] <Shawn|4650M> uses the same system minecraft does
L2082[23:15:28] <Temia> Damn, Izaya. What are you even running?
L2083[23:15:53] <Izaya> Temia: 8 instances of gpg
L2084[23:16:01] <Temia> Oh.
L2085[23:16:04] <Izaya> to encrypt about 188 files
L2086[23:16:11] <Izaya> Shawn|4650M: https://i.imgur.com/uSAgwnF.png
L2087[23:16:46] <Shawn|4650M> what operating system is that?
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L2089[23:16:52] <Izaya> arch loonix
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L2091[23:17:31] <Izaya> not that it actually matters 'cause just about anything can SSH and run an X server
L2092[23:18:48] <Temia> Wait, are you using an asymmetric encryption method?
L2093[23:19:07] <Izaya> No, just -c
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L2096[23:21:36] <MonTaGeFreaK> howdy
L2097[23:21:53] <MonTaGeFreaK> wow this opencomputer is amazing
L2098[23:22:05] <MonTaGeFreaK> irc straight from my minecraft house computer
L2099[23:22:26] <Temia> Yep, it's pretty powerful.
L2100[23:22:37] <Izaya> what the hell am I doing actually
L2101[23:22:52] <Izaya> Would it be faster to split then encrypt or encrypt then split?
L2102[23:23:03] <Temia> Whenever I stop being lazy I'm going to see if I can revive an ancient protocol purely by the power of the Modded Minecraft community.
L2103[23:23:13] <Temia> AKA make a gopher client.
L2104[23:23:14] <Izaya> Gopher?
L2105[23:23:18] <Izaya> called it
L2106[23:23:19] <Temia> aayyy
L2107[23:23:49] <Temia> It'd be great for in-game ocdoc viewing, wouldn't it?
L2108[23:23:49] * gamax92 dies.
L2109[23:23:56] <Izaya> It would.
L2110[23:24:05] <Izaya> If it supported parts of markdown that'd be even better
L2111[23:24:07] <MonTaGeFreaK> gamax92 can I help you?
L2112[23:24:14] <gamax92> MonTaGeFreaK: ope
L2113[23:24:37] <Temia> Hmm. That's a thought.
L2114[23:24:41] <MonTaGeFreaK> oc irc.lua does not know ctcp
L2115[23:24:53] <Temia> It has a limited subset.
L2116[23:25:15] <Temia> CTCP ACTION is parsed properly, after all.
L2117[23:25:21] <Shawn|4650M> ?
L2118[23:25:27] <Mimiru> As is version, as I added it.
L2119[23:25:57] <Shawn|4650M> who is +Corded?
L2120[23:26:06] <Temia> Corded is a bot.
L2121[23:26:14] <Mimiru> Discord <-> IRC Bridge
L2122[23:26:21] <Shawn|4650M> the bot can speak to mimiru?
L2123[23:26:31] <Mimiru> Ignore the Corded name, and look at the 2nd nick
L2124[23:26:42] <Shawn|4650M> the bot is speaking to mimiru
L2125[23:26:55] <Temia> The bot is speaking *as* Mimiru.
L2126[23:26:55] <Mimiru> The bot is not speaking TO Mimiru
L2127[23:26:56] <Shawn|4650M> I think mimiru knows that
L2128[23:27:00] <Mimiru> I AM Mimiru
L2129[23:27:19] <Shawn|4650M> +Corded is trying to speak as Mimiru o.O
L2130[23:27:22] <Mimiru> Corded relays chat to and from Discord
L2131[23:27:24] <Mimiru> ffs
L2132[23:27:27] <Mimiru> I fucking quit
L2133[23:27:37] <Shawn|4650M> okay okay, I am joking
L2134[23:27:40] <Temia> Shawn, quit being difficult :I
L2135[23:27:51] <Shawn|4650M> I was taking advantage of that
L2136[23:27:59] <Temia> she's had a hard week.
L2137[23:28:03] <Shawn|4650M> Mimiru already told me this last week lol
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L2139[23:28:13] <Shawn|4650M> oh, sorry :/
L2140[23:28:17] <Shawn|4650M> no room for humor?
L2141[23:28:26] <gamax92> it wasn't funny to begin with
L2142[23:28:34] <gamax92> it just makes you look stupid
L2143[23:28:46] <Shawn|4650M> o.O
L2144[23:29:10] <Temia> Still too soon.
L2145[23:29:59] <Shawn|4650M> where is fox?
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L2147[23:37:17] <infinitysamurai> Does OC have anything that allows you set teams of players? I guess you could do that kind of stuff in the program itself without needing to use Minecraft's methods
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L2149[23:41:22] * Izaya sighs, waits for split to work again
L2150[23:41:39] <gamax92> Izaya: what'cha up to?
L2151[23:41:45] <Izaya> split -b 1G ../../nagato-linux-2.squash nagato-linux-2.squash.
L2152[23:41:54] <gamax92> Why are you doing that?
L2153[23:42:09] <Izaya> need to split, encrypt, and upload to cold storage
L2154[23:42:23] <gamax92> ahh.
L2155[23:42:54] <infinitysamurai> What in the world are you guys doing? I haven't played with oc yet
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L2157[23:43:44] <gamax92> Also I'm loving the arch pacman system, it does update checks faster and more efficiently.
L2158[23:44:12] <infinitysamurai> Oh it's linux related stuff, nm
L2159[23:44:21] <Izaya> Does OC have split?
L2160[23:44:31] <gamax92> Does OC have Arch Linux?
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L2162[23:44:36] <gamax92> :P
L2163[23:44:45] <Antheus> :P
L2164[23:44:57] <Temia> If you want to set up pacman on that one MIPS Arch build, be my guest
L2165[23:45:00] <Antheus> Does OC have Unity?
L2166[23:45:03] <Temia> Er
L2167[23:45:06] <Temia> MIPS Linux build, rather
L2168[23:45:07] <Izaya> I hope not
L2169[23:45:11] <Temia> I am still waking up. =.=
L2170[23:45:16] <Izaya> be that the game engine or the desktop environment
L2171[23:45:17] <Antheus> What about windows ME
L2172[23:45:23] <Izaya> maybe Windows CE
L2173[23:45:26] <gamax92> Temia: I don't think we've ever gotten a kernel to boot up in general though
L2174[23:45:27] <Antheus> oh good almost midnight Izaya
L2175[23:45:30] <Antheus> long time no talk
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L2177[23:45:35] <Temia> Wasn't someone working on a QEMU frontend architecture?
L2178[23:45:44] <Izaya> Hai Antheus
L2179[23:45:48] <Izaya> Good day to you sir.
L2180[23:45:51] <gamax92> possibly ... that would be interesting.
L2181[23:46:03] <Temia> Or was that just something my sleepy head made up?
L2182[23:46:09] <Antheus> I can't wait for school to start Monday
L2183[23:46:12] <gamax92> Temia: even if it was, it's a great idea
L2184[23:46:15] <Antheus> Last year of public school
L2185[23:46:18] <Antheus> Senior year
L2186[23:46:23] <Antheus> then I'm off to college
L2187[23:46:31] <Izaya> all grown up
L2188[23:46:34] <Antheus> ;)
L2189[23:46:38] <Temia> I think an OC-QEMU mod would need to have the proc be creative-spawnable only at any rate.
L2190[23:46:56] <Temia> That's rather a lot of power after all.
L2191[23:47:04] <Izaya> nahhhhhh
L2192[23:47:17] <Izaya> Just have it allocate memory based on how much RAM is in the machine
L2193[23:47:18] <gamax92> I know you can run qemu without a virtual screen and have it just output to terminal or even tell it to serial port to a pipe connected to Minecraft
L2194[23:47:20] <Izaya> limit it to like 1Mhz
L2195[23:47:28] <gamax92> does qemu have speed limit though?
L2196[23:47:32] <Izaya> Dunno.
L2197[23:47:39] <Temia> The other main issue would be component support.
L2198[23:47:39] <Izaya> I know that old system emulator does
L2199[23:48:46] <gamax92> Temia: yeah ... no idea about that, but at the very least you can a simple interface to qemu <-> Minecraft
L2200[23:49:30] <Temia> Mm. A virtual network card to allow outgoing sockets, maybe.
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L2202[23:50:37] <gamax92> You could even qemu vvfat map the hard drive
L2203[23:50:58] <gamax92> which ... I know that atleast works to boot dos. :/
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