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L27[01:22:33] *
Temia contemplates the projected difficulty of getting Mojang to
accept a Hymmnos translation of Minecraft.
L28[01:22:54] <Temia> Especially given that
it'd require a patch to their font files as well.
L29[01:26:48] <asie> I'd like a Toki Pona
translation. But I need to learn that.
L30[01:26:54] <asie> Also, you're probably
better off making a mod.
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L32[01:26:58] <asie> The font renderer is
easily patched.
L33[01:27:08] <asie> Or you can use a
resource pack to replace a Unicode area of choice.
L34[01:27:11] <asie> Like the PUA
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L38[01:33:07] <Temia> Yeah, I'm just
interested in legitimacy.
L39[01:34:34] <Temia> A spot alongside the
other silly translations.
L40[01:43:00] <SF-MC> %calc 2048/256
L41[01:43:03] <MichiBot> SF-MC: 8
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L56[02:44:22] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
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L62[03:14:58] <SF-MC> 128 * 8
L63[03:15:05] <SF-MC> %calc 128 * 8
L64[03:15:07] <MichiBot> SF-MC: 1,024
L65[03:16:43] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar also,
what would be better? Overriding getTileEntityClass or just having
the class as a constructor parameter
L66[03:16:44] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
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L78[04:24:50] <Sangar> o/
L80[04:25:56] <Sangar> Vexatos, too
expensive as in performance? nah, those are not called very
often.
L81[04:26:35] <Sangar> isInstance ->
isAssignable(From?) maybe? or is it meant to be very explicitly for
one class?
L82[04:28:00] <Vexatos> well mine always
are, yes
L83[04:28:22] <Vexatos> as you can see by
the EnderIO or flamingo examples in that commit
L84[04:28:34] <Vexatos> there is virtually
no difference
L85[04:28:41] <Vexatos> between isInstance
and isAssignableFrom
L86[04:28:55] <Vexatos> apart from the
parameter being an object vs a class
L87[04:30:05] <Tazz> Sangar, you like
interesting compiler based stuffs?
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L89[04:31:12] <Sangar> Tazz, sure! though i
can't claim to have much in-depth knowledge in that area :P
L91[04:31:47] <Tazz> its a mini x86_64 JIT
:D
L92[04:32:32] *
Sangar sees include guard
L93[04:32:33] <Sangar> for ruby?
L94[04:33:05] <Tazz> its a ruby proejct Im
working on
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L96[04:33:12] <Tazz> although its useable
for anything really
L97[04:33:18] <Tazz> its practically self
contained
L98[04:33:29] <Tazz> small tweak and it
would be self contained actually
L99[04:33:33] <Sangar> that's surprisingly
compact for a jitter. not that i've ever seen code for another one
:X
L100[04:33:43] <Sangar> neat
L101[04:34:01] <Tazz> Eschelle's JIT is a
bit bigger but is more featured and in C++
L103[04:34:50] <Tazz> I attempted to dumb
down Eschelle's JIT so I could make the C version smaller and more
friendly
L104[04:35:03] <Tazz> the original version
I had for C had kinda redundant stuff in it
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L106[04:36:02] <Sangar> that's pretty
cool. makes me want to mess with c again >_>
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L108[04:36:07] <Tazz> Sangar, haha
L109[04:37:11] <Tazz> Sangar, if your
interested in working on a ruby runtime I wouldnt mind adding you
to the repository :P
L110[04:39:04] <Sangar> thanks! but i'll
pass. not enough time anyway (also will be moving soon so even less
time :/)
L111[04:40:52] <Tazz> Sangar, offer is
always open :)
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L113[04:41:07] <Sangar> :)
L114[04:41:57] <Tazz> which is nice btw
considering last time I was here talking about this stuff I got
kicked because I "sounded like an idiot"
L115[04:42:17] <Tazz> <DeanIsaKitty>
!kick Tazz Your stupidity gives me migraines.
L116[04:45:22] <Sangar> <_>
L117[04:45:32] <Sangar> i feel like
context is missing
L120[04:46:07] <Tazz> HexChat didnt copy
the entire log XD
L121[04:48:24] <Sangar> sounds like
someone was having a bad day...
L122[04:51:31] <Tazz> eh they thouught I
was trolling them rofl
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L126[05:10:29] <Kodos> o/
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L131[05:58:05] <Saphire> ...
L132[05:58:12] <Saphire> what resolution
does doom requires?
L133[05:58:18] <asie> why?
L134[05:58:29] <Forecaster> 666x666
L135[06:00:36] <Saphire> asie:
*cough*doomforOC*cough*
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L153[06:29:58] <Saphire> Inari: saw that,
i browse imgue sometimes too
L154[06:30:03] <Inari> :P[
L155[06:30:07] <Inari> saw it on reddit
actually haha
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L159[06:40:53] <Forecaster> pff, nobody
actually browses imgur
L161[06:41:01] <Forecaster> everyone are
just linked posts by other people
L163[06:41:05] <MichiBot>
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L164[06:43:25] <Forecaster> what is
that?
L165[06:44:01] <Tazz> its a mod Im working
on
L166[06:46:20] <Forecaster> ...
L167[06:53:02] <mc-fm> amazing mod
L169[06:53:52] <Kodos> Well, from what I
can assume from the video, it looks like a terrible mod
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L171[06:54:04] <Kodos> Since you don't
actually show any functionality, I can only assume it does nothing
but look pretty
L172[06:54:20] <Tazz> Im showing off that
particular spot
L173[06:54:40] <Tazz> I already have the
computer that works
L174[07:13:49] <Forecaster> amazing
L176[07:16:42] <Forecaster> lewd
L178[07:17:56] <Forecaster> :P
L180[07:25:47] *
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L181[07:25:59] <Izaya> Tazz: care to post
screenshots?
L182[07:26:08] <Tazz> Izaya, of?
L183[07:26:14] <Izaya> mod
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L193[07:28:06] <Tazz> good enough XD
L194[07:28:31] <Izaya> multicoloured golem
looking things
L195[07:28:32] <Izaya> shiny
L197[07:28:58] <Tazz> robits
L198[07:29:12] <Izaya> monitor texture is
nice
L199[07:29:16] <Izaya> very retro
CRT
L201[07:29:47] <MichiBot>
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L202[07:30:00] <Tazz> that pink colour is
temp
L204[07:30:13] *
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L205[07:30:20] <Izaya> anyway I'm gonna go
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L212[07:52:47] <Inari> looks like a mech
mod, i had a similar idea, but for players
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L216[08:12:32] <CompanionCube> hi
L217[08:13:46] <Forecaster>
greblings
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L220[08:23:46] <Sangar> blub
L221[08:24:18] <Vexatos> blub
L222[08:24:20] <Forecaster> blib
L223[08:24:26] <Vexatos> oh my
L224[08:24:29] <Sangar> so about tablet
capabilities...
L225[08:24:30] <Vexatos> what have you
done
L226[08:24:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, ItemStack
:>
L227[08:24:40] <Sangar> that's the
problem
L228[08:24:49] <Sangar> i need a player,
too, to get the actual machine/components
L229[08:24:56] <Vexatos> yes
L230[08:25:08] <Sangar> sooo
L231[08:25:11] <Sangar> wat do
L232[08:25:13] <Vexatos> it should be
supplying the player, no?
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L234[08:25:17] <Sangar> nope
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L236[08:25:31] <Sangar> the event comes
from the constructor from the itemstack potentially
L237[08:25:41] <Vexatos> ah yes
L238[08:26:23] <Vexatos>
initCapabilities
L239[08:26:25] <Vexatos> Mhm
L240[08:26:36] <Vexatos> is it not on the
itemstack itself? ugh
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L242[08:28:55] <LuMistry> Greetings
L243[08:29:11] <Forecaster>
greeblings
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L245[08:30:36] <asie> Sangar: well,
then
L246[08:30:39] <asie> you need to
restructure your code
L247[08:30:44] <asie> to have a global map
of UUIDs to players
L248[08:31:30] <Sangar> D:
L249[08:31:43] <Sangar> well, no caps for
tablets for now then
L250[08:31:47] <asie> ah well
L251[08:31:50] <asie> OC 1.7? :P
L252[08:31:59] <Sangar> i do want to
restructure that at some point anyway, so then
L253[08:32:06] <Sangar> maybe, maybe some
patch :P
L254[08:32:12] <Forecaster> caps?
L255[08:32:16] <Sangar> capabilities
L256[08:32:19] <Forecaster> ah
L257[08:33:57] <Sangar> so when will the
rf api switch to caps? :3
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L262[08:44:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, pushed,
completely untested tho :P
L263[08:44:46] <S3> Ok! :D
L264[08:46:33] <Vexatos> Sangar, only
components?
L265[08:46:45] <Vexatos> or
managedenvironments in general
L266[08:47:54] <Vexatos> welp, asie, here
we go
L267[08:48:11] <Sangar> in general. in
theory.
L268[08:48:36] *
Saphire pokes Sangar
L269[08:48:51] <Saphire> y ur dynamic
fonts have hardcoded size?
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L272[09:25:46] <Inari> "our coherent
extrapolated volition is our wish if we knew more, thought faster,
were more the people we wished we were, had grown up farther
together; where the extrapolation converges rather than diverges,
where our wishes cohere rather than interfere; extrapolated as we
wish that extrapolated, interpreted as we wish that
interpreted." pretty :p
L273[09:33:40] <Mimiru> %test
L274[09:33:44] <MichiBot> Mimiru:
Success
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L276[09:38:23] <Forecaster> too many fancy
words :P
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L278[09:41:50] <gamax92> Espernet why are
you so slow
L279[09:43:44] <Forecaster> cause it's
sunday
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L283[09:46:28] <gamax92_> is just the
bouncer
L284[09:46:34] <Saphire> \o/
L285[09:46:48] <Vexatos> bouncer92_
L286[09:47:09] <gamax92_> Hexchat is
giving me a O.Os face
L287[09:48:08] <Saphire> top the
bouncer
L288[09:48:10] <Saphire> 8 to
L289[09:48:14] <Saphire> >.>
L290[09:48:18] <Saphire> #ping
L291[09:48:18] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.469025657 Seconds passed.
L292[09:48:23] <gamax92_> #ping
L293[09:48:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
0.29100689 Seconds passed.
L294[09:48:32] <Forecaster> #ping
L295[09:48:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
2.76665038 Seconds passed.
L296[09:48:39] <Saphire> ...
L297[09:48:41] <gamax92_> erm
L298[09:48:42] <Saphire> okay
L299[09:48:46] <Mimiru> o_O
L300[09:48:51] <Mimiru> %ping
L301[09:48:54] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Mimiru 2.38s
L302[09:48:57] <Mimiru> yay
L303[09:48:59] <Saphire> %ping
L304[09:49:00] <Forecaster> %ping
L305[09:49:04] <gamax92_> %ping
L306[09:49:07] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Saphire 7.28s
L307[09:49:08] <Saphire> xD
L308[09:49:09] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
gamax92_ 4.43s
L309[09:49:09] <Mimiru> I think OVH is
having issues of their own
L310[09:49:10] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Forecaster 2.68s
L311[09:49:11] <MichiBot> Ping reply from
Saphire 7.4s
L312[09:49:18] <gamax92_> Mimiru: ahh,
would make sense then
L313[09:49:34] <Mimiru> I can't connect to
Midori/Eos or Victory/Hekate/Bast at all
L314[09:49:34] <Forecaster> huh
L315[09:49:39] <Mimiru> Others can
though
L316[09:49:40] <Saphire> ovh is French,
right l
L317[09:49:43] <Forecaster> why did
Saphire get two replies
L318[09:49:45] <Saphire> *?
L319[09:49:52] <Mimiru> yeah, but my
servers are in Canada
L320[09:49:53] <Saphire> Forecaster: I
have two clients
L321[09:49:57] <Forecaster> ah
L322[09:50:36] <gamax92_> I've told em to
reconnect but they're in limbo now
L323[09:51:01] <Saphire> I have a
(apparently ovh) vps that hosts my bouncer and my home desktop also
has 24/7 VPN to it
L324[09:51:18] <Forecaster> I don't have a
bouncer
L325[09:55:55] *
Elizabeth smuggles Mimiru through France
L326[09:55:58] <Elizabeth> :P
L327[09:56:01] <Mimiru> Heh
L328[09:56:55] <Mimiru> I still get 5-6
Mbps via this VPN
L329[09:57:16] <Elizabeth> how many
connections are you using?
L330[09:57:22] <Mimiru> 1
L331[09:57:36] <Elizabeth> try maxing it
out, see what you get then :P
L332[09:57:40] <Elizabeth> err
L333[09:57:49] <Elizabeth> *maxing out the
meta connections
L334[09:58:17] <Elizabeth> under the
advanced settings of the connection config
L335[09:58:26] <Mimiru> yeah, set it to
32
L336[09:58:33] <Mimiru> I'll have to
reconnect though, so BRB
L337[09:58:38] <Elizabeth> ok
L338[09:59:56] <Mimiru> looks like I
peaked at around 8
L339[10:00:00] <Mimiru> avgs out to like
6.5ish
L340[10:00:16] <Mimiru> This is ok for
now, atleast until my ISP/OVH fixes their shit
L341[10:01:43] <gamax92_> meh
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L345[10:03:51] <gamax92> oh. ofc
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L349[10:30:31] <Yepoleb> Elizabeth: I saw
you want to restart the enderverse, that's awesome. How far are you
with the preparations?
L350[10:32:41] <asie> the
enderverse?
L351[10:32:44] <asie> wasn't that a server
or something
L352[10:32:48] <Elizabeth> yes
L353[10:32:50] <Elizabeth> my server
L354[10:32:52] <asie> what was it
about?
L355[10:32:53] <asie> my memory fails
me
L356[10:33:05] <Elizabeth> err, just
general mc
L359[10:33:13] <asie> so no specific
deisgn things or anything
L360[10:33:15] <asie> just a pack
L361[10:33:20] <Elizabeth> yeu
L362[10:33:23] <Elizabeth> yep*
L363[10:34:47] <Elizabeth> Yepoleb: yeah,
i'll be looking into mods and stuff around mid-week if i don't get
any more responses to the form. so far survival 1.7.10 is wining.
as for CoFH mods, i was kinda going to try keeping away from them
and find other mods that are smaller but also fill the space
L364[10:35:21] <asie> why not go
1.9.4?
L365[10:35:45] <Elizabeth> asie: if all
the mods i want to add are 1.9.4, i'll go to it
L367[10:35:55] <asie> so you won't
L368[10:36:17] <Elizabeth> i've actually
forgotten the modlist i put together, but i think a few of them are
not yet 1.9.4
L369[10:36:31] <asie> carpenter's blocks
won't be 1.9.4 ever
L370[10:36:33] <asie> if that's what
you're wondering
L371[10:36:47] <Elizabeth> i think that
was on the list
L372[10:36:53] <asie> yeah, forget about
it past 1.7.10
L373[10:36:53] <Elizabeth> that's a
bummer
L374[10:37:01] <asie> bibliocraft is
porting, slowly
L375[10:37:03] <asie> same with
railcraft
L376[10:37:07] <asie> forestry is in
L377[10:37:30] <Elizabeth> i know about
Railcraft's progress, i'm hoping it's ipdated in time for BTM
L378[10:37:39] <Elizabeth> *updated
L379[10:38:29] <Elizabeth> i got a lot
more done on my controling stuff recently but nothing on the
routing/ticket requesting side yet
L380[10:39:32] <Saphire> why carpenter is
not getting ported>
L381[10:39:34] <Saphire> *?
L382[10:39:57] <asie> Elizabeth: what's
the list btw?
L383[10:40:02] <asie> if you find it link
it to me
L384[10:40:03] <asie> or unforget
L385[10:40:08] <asie> Saphire: the dev
can't figure out how
L386[10:40:13] <asie> and the few people
who can have their own mods
L387[10:40:49] <Elizabeth> oww, need to go
find a tray to put my laptop on
L388[10:40:57] <Elizabeth> playing mc
makes the cpu sit at 70C
L389[10:41:04] <Elizabeth> and it's now
burning my leg
L390[10:41:08] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar so a
problem with install-from-floppy is that for instance /bin/wget.lua
is symlinked to <floppy>/bin/wget.lua so it's not nice to put
any file at that place while the floppy is in. and placing it into
/usr/bin would just be inconsistent :<
L391[10:41:10] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L392[10:41:35] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar
also, is there some way to get a list of active behaviour on the
client? the normal Nanomachines.getController seems to return null
on the client.
L393[10:41:36] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L395[10:43:50] <asie> >Electrical
Age
L396[10:43:53] <asie> will take ages
L397[10:43:56] <asie> >AE2
L398[10:43:58] <asie> Q3 2014
L399[10:44:00] <asie> >RailCraft
L400[10:44:02] <asie> who knows
L401[10:44:03] <asie> >BuildCraft
L402[10:44:06] <asie> who knows
L403[10:44:15] <asie>
>Magneticraft
L404[10:44:17] <asie> who knows
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L406[10:44:26] <asie> >Carpenter's
Blocks
L407[10:44:29] <asie> never
L408[10:44:31] <asie>
>MineFactoryReloaded
L409[10:44:34] <asie> who knows
L410[10:44:42] <asie> the rest will be
there by BTM
L411[10:44:48] <Elizabeth> yeah, that's
why i'm not going to attempt 1.9.4 for a while
L412[10:44:50] <asie> "who
knows" = "i have no idea, they may or may not be ported
at all"
L413[10:44:53] <Elizabeth> :P
L414[10:44:58] <asie> "so better
adjust yourself to the idea that they might die"
L415[10:45:06] <asie> well, not
RailCraft
L416[10:45:10] <asie> and hopefully not
BuildCraft
L417[10:45:29] <Elizabeth> yeah, cause i
like LP and it needs buildcraft
L418[10:45:43] <asie> doesn't actually
need buildcraft
L419[10:45:47] <asie> comment out the
dependency, replace recipes
L420[10:45:47] <Elizabeth> huh
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L422[10:45:48] <asie> and even on
1.7
L423[10:45:51] <asie> you don't need
BC
L424[10:45:58] <asie> the only reason LP
still depends on BC is that they lack their own recipes
L425[10:45:58] <Elizabeth>
intteresting
L426[10:46:03] <asie> in fact, LP has
copied over BC's own pipe code
L427[10:46:05] <asie> that's how it keeps
compatibility
L428[10:46:11] <Elizabeth> hah
L429[10:46:12] <asie> at least
initially
L430[10:46:15] <asie> now only some bits
are copied
L431[10:46:22] <asie> but yeah, LP doesn't
actually technically depend on BC
L432[10:46:23] <Yepoleb> Elizabeth:
mekanism isn't on the list, it provides the same basic machines as
thermal expansion
L433[10:46:24] <asie> hasn't for a good
year+ now
L434[10:46:38] <asie> oh, right
L435[10:46:41] <asie> >Logistics
Pipes
L436[10:46:43] <Elizabeth> Yepoleb: i'll
add that to your suggestions
L437[10:46:43] <asie> i have high
fears
L438[10:47:28] <Elizabeth> I hope it
doesn't die, I like watching my items fly about in pipes
L439[10:47:44] <Vexatos> then play
BuildCraft >_>
L440[10:47:57] <Elizabeth> ?
L441[10:48:06] <Vexatos> " I like
watching my items fly about in pipes"
L442[10:48:08] <Vexatos>
==BuildCraft
L443[10:48:25] <Elizabeth> okay, lemme
rephrase that, I like watching my items fly about in pipes and be
automated
L444[10:49:12] <Elizabeth> one of the
reasons i wont use AE extensively in my survival worlds
L445[10:49:13] <Vexatos> then use
gates
L446[10:49:20] <Vexatos> and diamond
pipes
L447[10:49:23] <Vexatos> >_>
L448[10:50:26] <Elizabeth> na, i think
i'll just stick with a version of mc that LP runs on
L449[10:57:32] <Yepoleb> asie: i'm
confused about BTM16, did you use the same name twice?
L450[10:57:43] <Elizabeth> Yepoleb: it's
BTM16 Episode 2
L451[11:00:54] <Yepoleb> Elizabeth: oh,
but nobody mentions the episode 2 part
L452[11:01:00] <asie> Yepoleb: BTM16
2.
L454[11:01:03] <asie> but it failed a
bit
L455[11:02:08] <Yepoleb> the official
hashtag is #BTM16, not #BTM16e2 or something
L456[11:02:45] <Vexatos> it's actually BTM
16+2i
L457[11:02:51] <Vexatos> the 2 is only
imaginary :^)
L458[11:09:10] <S3> vifino: OMG OMG
OMG
L460[11:09:15] <S3> 100 BUCKS
L461[11:11:59] <Inari> Elizabeth: charset
pipes are nice and can be autoamted ;D
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L463[11:12:18] <Inari> does Elizabeth have
a LP series? :o
L464[11:12:54] <Temia> :o
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L467[11:13:11] *
Inari puts a pawpad stamp on Temia's forehead
L468[11:13:11] *
Temia tugs Rikai's arm and points at S3's link!
L469[11:13:20] <Temia> ...moo? o-o
L470[11:13:50] *
Temia blink. blinkblink. Rubs at her forehead.
L471[11:14:23] <Inari> they should add
Temia to overwatch
L472[11:16:24] <Temia> Muu? o-o
L473[11:17:15] <gamax92> o.o
L474[11:17:20] <gamax92> What are you two
doing
L475[11:17:48] *
Temia is confused! @-@
L476[11:18:22] <Elizabeth> Inari:
Logistics pipes, not LP
L477[11:18:29] <Elizabeth> s/LP/Lets
play
L478[11:18:30] <MichiBot>
<Elizabeth> Inari: Logistics pipes, not Lets play
L479[11:18:40] <Inari> i know but im
asking if ou have a lets play
L480[11:18:40] <Inari> :P
L481[11:19:06] <Elizabeth> nope, i hate
the sound of my voice so the last thing i wanna be doing is
muttering to myself then have to edit it again after
L482[11:19:57] <Forecaster> make vifino
edit :P
L483[11:20:09] <Elizabeth> i could
do
L484[11:20:18] <Inari> just moan a bit
,noon ewill mind the sound
L485[11:20:29] <Elizabeth> but still
doesn't change the fact that i hate how my voice sounds at the
moment
L486[11:20:49] <Inari> at the monent? are
you ill or so?
L487[11:21:05] <Temia> That's enough
questions. :x
L488[11:21:20] <Inari> :f
L489[11:21:28] <Elizabeth> no, just it's a
fair bit lower than what a normal girls voice would be
L490[11:22:45] <Elizabeth> and by fair bit
i mean a lot
L491[11:24:20] <Elizabeth> if/when i get
my voice to sound faily resonable, i'll totally do a lets
play
L492[11:24:31] <Inari> \o/
L493[11:24:44] <Elizabeth> that's a long
way off yet though
L494[11:28:30] <Inari> meow? meow!
L495[11:28:36] *
Inari is bored
L496[11:29:18] <Inari> i should wirte a
raytrace renderer for OC
L497[11:29:20] <Inari> but im lazy
L498[11:29:38] <Forecaster> you could use
text-to-speech :D
L499[11:29:48] <Inari> haha
L501[11:31:47] <S3> I can't find any of my
guitarpicks
L502[11:32:33] <Forecaster> isn't that
what they're for? not being found?
L503[11:33:07] *
vifino groans
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L515[11:56:28] <S3> I dunno if I should
buy that usb recorder
L516[11:56:41] <S3> it'd be nice because
then I can tap live sound out of my mains
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L518[11:57:33] <vifino> Why do you need
such equipment anyways, S3?
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L520[11:57:49] <S3> vifino: because I play
:P
L521[11:57:56] <S3> I used to play in gigs
on stage
L522[11:58:07] <gamax92> Data over power
line
L523[11:58:14] <S3> but with this we don't
have to rent or be in an auditorium house
L524[11:58:30] <S3> we can do gigs outside
for fun with my equipment
L525[11:59:09] <S3> vifino: have you ever
seen the amplifier I have for some of my speakers?
L526[11:59:20] <vifino> S3: do you play
alone?
L527[11:59:37] <S3> lately, everyone else
is so busy
L528[11:59:56] <vifino> Aha.
L529[11:59:56] <S3> most of us are all
about the same age so lots of us have kids now
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L543[12:41:35] <gamax92> the little red
squiggly line means your text is blushing
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L545[12:48:20] <Forecaster> Inari: that is
a nice dress
L546[12:48:54] <Inari> casual lolita so
good
L547[12:48:54] <Inari> :3
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L553[13:01:32] <Forecaster> I wish I knew
someone who dressed like that :P
L554[13:02:16] <asie> yeah
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L561[13:20:40] <Forecaster> I actually met
a girl on the train who was dressed in a sort of japanese
style
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L566[13:34:15] <rikai> Temia: did you
forget that i just got a mixer? :P
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L569[13:36:19] <Temia> ....
L570[13:36:20] <Temia> yes.
L571[13:36:21] <Temia> orz
L572[13:37:54] *
rikai snickers
L575[13:39:57] <g> I saw that on reddit a
couple days ago
L576[13:40:02] <g> can't remember where
though..
L577[13:40:43] <Inari> proabbly
/r/overwatch or /r/gamng
L578[13:40:48] <Inari>
s/gamng/gaming
L579[13:40:48] <MichiBot> <Inari>
proabbly /r/overwatch or /r/gaming
L580[13:40:52] <Inari> right
L581[13:40:52] <g> nah, I don't sub either
of those
L582[13:41:01] <Inari> no clue then
L583[13:43:36] <g> probably
/r/cosplaygirls
L584[13:43:44] <Inari> very likely
L585[13:44:00] <rikai> Skye: was that ?
directed at me?
L587[13:46:13] <rikai> Good talk. :P
L588[13:47:13] <Inari> Forecaster: joins
ome lolita fashion grou pon facebook? :P
L589[14:06:26] <g> that is so broken
L590[14:06:35] <g> I thought you were
talking about a loli porn group
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L593[14:15:01] <Inari> Oo
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L601[14:43:10] <gamax92> chain
L603[14:43:30] <gamax92> S3: nope
L604[14:43:41] <S3> ok then I won't
L605[14:43:54] <S3> WHY DOES MY IP PHONE
KEEP BEEPING?!
L606[14:44:07] <S3> It beeps like once an
hour
L607[14:46:20] <gamax92> S3: beep
L608[14:55:09] <gamax92> all of the
variable names are people names ;~;
L609[15:13:38] <payonel> o/
L610[15:13:51] <Inari> whats a good mouse
brand/
L611[15:14:08] <Forecaster> Steel
Series
L612[15:15:53] <vifino> Inari: Elizabeth
and I both use Mad Catz mouses.
L613[15:16:00] <vifino> We're pretty happy
with them.
L614[15:16:07] <Inari> i like the tactile
idea stuff
L615[15:16:08] <Inari> er
L616[15:16:11] <Inari> tactile feedback
stuff
L617[15:16:17] <Inari> on the steelseries
rival 700
L618[15:16:37] <Elizabeth> I need to get a
new one, this one has been through some... bad habits....
L619[15:16:43] <Forecaster> I've never
used a mad catz mouse
L620[15:16:58] <Inari> Elizabeth: dont
throw it at the wall d:
L621[15:17:11] <Elizabeth> and no, those
bad habits are not sexual related
L622[15:17:12] <Forecaster> I have a Steel
Series Sensei
L623[15:17:25] <Vexatos> them €15 mice are
the best :>
L625[15:18:11] <payonel> i really like
it
L627[15:18:37] <g> I have a logitech g700s
myself
L629[15:19:03] <g> don't expect a cheap
mouse though..
L630[15:19:57] <alekso56> i have used a
g500 logitech mouse for 5 years now, works like a charm.
L631[15:20:07] <g> I love me some logitech
hardware
L632[15:20:15] <g> also, I can unlock the
scrollwheel
L633[15:20:18] <g> such an underrated
feature
L634[15:20:29] <alekso56> yes love that.
:O
L635[15:20:32] <Forecaster> I kind of miss
that
L636[15:20:38] <Forecaster> but the last
mouse I had jammed
L637[15:20:44] <Forecaster> which made it
unusable
L638[15:21:04] <alekso56> long terms
agreement? no worries, just unlock the scrollwheel!
L640[15:21:14] <alekso56> i totally read
that.
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L642[15:22:18] <alekso56> i never
understood the weights that were included tho
L643[15:22:45] <g> literal weights?
L644[15:23:04] <alekso56> yeah small
weights in a cartridge.
L645[15:23:26] <alekso56> you can adjust
the grams inside it :v
L646[15:23:51] <g> yeah, a weighted mouse
is always very important for gaming
L647[15:24:01] <g> you don't want to be
slinging around something the weight of a piece of paper
L648[15:24:09] <g> different people prefer
different weights, though
L649[15:24:51] <alekso56> i think it's
perfect without them tho :p
L650[15:25:06] <Inari> 10kg mouse, just
for the "do you even lift" novelty
L652[15:25:11] <g> it's probably
fine
L653[15:25:16] <g> it depends on your
wrist strength
L654[15:25:24] <g> g700s doesn't have
variable weight
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L656[15:27:11] <Char> Hello?
L657[15:27:14] <Mimiru> \o/
L658[15:27:17] <payonel> o/
L659[15:27:23] <Char> ???
L661[15:27:31] <Mimiru> OVH/My ISP finally
stopped sucking
L662[15:27:55] <Forecaster> \o\
L663[15:27:59] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Your ISP is
OVH? XD
L664[15:28:14] <Char> Just to be clear,
this is the OpenComputers irc, right?
L665[15:28:29] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Yes
L666[15:28:38] <Mimiru> No... OVH *and* my
ISP...
L667[15:28:54] <SuPeRMiNoR2> :P
L668[15:28:57] <Skye> Char, correct
L669[15:29:00] *
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L670[15:29:03] <Temia> CHAR!
L671[15:29:05] <Skye> this is the
OpenComputers IRC channel
L672[15:29:10] *
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L673[15:29:15] <Char> Alright, I am
extremely new to opencomputers and only know some C++, so where do
I start?
L674[15:29:19] *
Temia has a flash of intuition +_+
L675[15:29:23] <Char> I have a computer
set up ingame
L676[15:29:34] <Forecaster> Char: find
something you want to do with computers
L677[15:29:37] <Char> and I know how to
access Lual
L678[15:29:41] <Char> Lua
L679[15:29:42] <Char> hmm
L680[15:29:49] <Char> I want to turn on a
lamp.
L681[15:29:59] <Forecaster> put a redstone
card in the computer
L682[15:30:02] <Char> Done.
L683[15:30:07] <g> or attach a redstone
IO
L684[15:30:11] <Forecaster> ~oc
redstone
L687[15:30:24] <Forecaster> then use use
that to figure out how to make the card do stuff
L688[15:30:37] <Char> hmm
L689[15:30:39] <Char> alright,
L690[15:31:00] <Forecaster> I'd recommend
playing around in the lua prompt at first
L691[15:31:06] <Forecaster> since it has
tab-completion
L692[15:31:09] <Char> question about
OpenOS then. how do I do ANYTHING with it? I dont know the commands
and cant seem to find a list of commands.
L693[15:31:27] <Forecaster>
"commands" are programs
L694[15:31:31] <Char> hmm
L695[15:31:36] <Char> how do I find a list
of programs?
L696[15:32:02] <Forecaster> good
question
L697[15:32:08] <Forecaster> payonel?
L698[15:32:16] <payonel> Char: are you
asking about user made programs? or programs that come with the
os?
L699[15:32:21] <SuPeRMiNoR2> you could
look in bin
L700[15:32:23] <Forecaster> built-in
L701[15:32:33] <Char> ...both?
L702[15:32:35] <Char> not sure.
L703[15:32:43] <payonel> `ls /bin` for
example will list your command line scripts
L704[15:33:14] <Char> Huh.
L705[15:33:17] <payonel> Char: we also
have a community repo of user-scripts via oppm
L706[15:33:24] <payonel> and i hear the
forums has a bunch
L707[15:33:36] <Char> No idea what oppm
does.
L708[15:33:41] <payonel> Char: also, the
online docs give info about the api of the libraries
L709[15:33:45] <Forecaster> it's a package
manager essentially
L710[15:33:53] <Char> Huh.
L711[15:34:00] <payonel> Char: i didn't
expect you would, just summing up the options
L712[15:34:19] <Char> Alright..
L713[15:34:26] <Forecaster> you need an
internet card to access oppm though
L714[15:34:37] <Forecaster> iirc
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L716[15:35:07] <payonel> Char: if you want
to just turn a light on, and you have a redstone card - run your
lua prompt, write "=component.redstone" and press
enter
L717[15:35:19] <payonel> it'll print a
serialized list of methods on that component
L718[15:35:22] <payonel> and read:
L719[15:35:25] <payonel> ~oc
redstone
L721[15:35:29] <payonel> which Forecaster
also linked
L722[15:37:17] <payonel> Char: for
example, in my lua prompt with a lamp to the left side of the
computer (relative to the computer, my right - as i'm facing the
computer)
L723[15:37:27] <payonel> lua>
component.redstone.setOutput(sides.left, 15)
L724[15:37:30] <payonel> turned the lamp
on
L725[15:38:34] <payonel> Char: lots of
people here that have lots of experience and would be happy to
help. if you have any issues with OpenOS itself - please let me
know
L726[15:39:23] <Forecaster> (payonel
develops OpenOs)
L727[15:39:35] <Char> Well
L728[15:39:38] <Char> didnt expect
that.
L729[15:39:56] <Char> Honestly I feel that
Im in over my head with this..
L730[15:40:55] <Forecaster> get a robot
and play around with that
L731[15:41:04] <Temia> Why do you say
that, Char?
L732[15:41:59] <Char> Not sure
L733[15:42:24] <Temia> OpenOS is just a
fairy basic hybrid UNIX/DOS-like environment, and lua itself is a
lot simpler than C++.
L734[15:42:27] <CompanionCube> if you want
something often seen as easier, you could always try ComputerCraft
:p
L735[15:43:07] <Temia> While we cannot be
blamed for the mistakes of our youth, regressing to ComputerCraft
is simply foolishness. `-`
L736[15:43:16] <Char> Hah
L737[15:43:26] <Char> But I did try
computercraft a long time ago
L738[15:43:37] <Temia> That line is doubly
appropriate then. `-`
L739[15:43:38] <Char> my friend who is
much better at it made an operating system for it
L740[15:43:50] <Char> I think,
atleast.
L741[15:44:00] <Char> very basic
thing.
L742[15:44:12] <CompanionCube> I'm not
sure that a ComputerCraft operating system can exist in a
meaningful sense due to the ROM
L743[15:44:23] <Char> Yeah, but
still.
L744[15:44:46] <Skye> CC's ROM is like the
Macintosh ROM
L745[15:44:49] <Char> Oh, question. can
you take lua scripts from ingame and export them outside of
MC?
L746[15:45:07] <CompanionCube> hard-drives
are stored-on disk in folders
L747[15:45:09] <Temia> Rather, CC OSes are
more like the MS-DOS Shell, overlaying a more static
subsystem.
L748[15:45:23] <Forecaster> if you're not
on a server, the files can be found in your world dir
L749[15:45:28] <Forecaster> in the
opencomputers dir
L750[15:45:30] <gamax92> we have a
pastebin program otherwise
L751[15:45:33] <Temia> Alternatively, if
you lack local access, you can upload the scripts to pastebin and
download them to the computer if you have an internet card.
L752[15:45:36] <payonel> Temia: i try to
only do linux things :) any dos-ness remaining that comes to mind
for you?
L753[15:45:36] <CompanionCube> Temia,
wouldn't win9x be a more widely-known comparison
L754[15:45:50] <Skye> CompanionCube, win
3.11
L755[15:45:52] <gamax92> CompanionCube:
not really
L756[15:45:52] <payonel> i'm not saying it
is dos-ness free -- just saying, it is only linux that inspires
me
L757[15:46:06] <Char> Another
question.
L758[15:46:10] <Temia> Payonel: Well, it's
receding with the advent of sysfs, but OpenOS's lack of file
descriptors for various things. :P
L759[15:46:23] <Char> the internet card,
it gives the computer access to the internet? in some way?
L760[15:46:30] <Forecaster> yep
L761[15:46:32] <Char> even though its in a
game?
L762[15:46:34] <Forecaster> thus the
name
L763[15:46:36] <Forecaster> yep
L764[15:46:36] <Char> holycrap thats
cool.
L765[15:46:38] <Temia> Cube: I gueeeess,
but in this case the abstraction's thin enough that it's closer
anyway
L766[15:46:48] <Char> Neat.
L767[15:46:50] <CompanionCube> real TCP
communication even
L768[15:46:54] <CompanionCube> not just
HTTP
L769[15:46:57] <Temia> No UDP
though.
L770[15:47:07] <gamax92> HTTP is still
supported for simplicity of using that
L771[15:47:13] <Temia> And as a security
measure you can only open TCP sockets, not listen on them.
L772[15:47:30] <payonel> Temia: true. fd's
are actually a work in progress in some form. 1.6 needed a lot of
abstraction to begin to describe process metadata the way i
wanted
L773[15:47:38] *
Temia nodnods
L774[15:47:49] <payonel> note also in 1.6
we have much much better stdio definition on a per-process
level
L775[15:48:12] <Temia> Once we have a
proper devfs and sysfs, then OpenOS will be strictly on the
UNIXlike side of things for sure.
L776[15:48:36] <payonel> and adding
"sockets" for process fd's (like /proc/###/fd/*) is
becoming much more possible
L777[15:48:58] <CompanionCube> I wonder -
if OpenOS is a UNIX-like, what is CraftOS?
L778[15:49:06] <Char> Im kinda lost. Im
still extremely new to coding and everything, so I dont understand
what all your saying.
L779[15:49:11] <CompanionCube> Char,
basically
L780[15:49:20] <CompanionCube> you can
implement an IRC client with the internet card
L781[15:49:23] <CompanionCube> but not an
IRC server
L782[15:49:30] <Char> Hmm.
L783[15:50:07] <Char> so, if I wanted to,
could I connect to this irc on the computercraft computer?
L784[15:50:15] <Char> or no?
L785[15:50:18] <Forecaster> yes
L786[15:50:19] <payonel>
opencomputter*
L787[15:50:21] <payonel> -t
L788[15:50:26] <Char> Hmm.
L789[15:50:35] <Char> Alright, How could I
do that then?
L790[15:50:38] <gamax92> you can with
ComputerCraft but it's a large hack
L791[15:50:40] <Forecaster> people already
do that
L792[15:50:41] <Char> that would be
interesting.
L793[15:50:46] <gamax92> with OpenCompuers
you can properly connect to IRC normally
L794[15:50:48] <Char> Opencomputers,
sorry
L795[15:50:55] <Char> How so?
L796[15:51:00] <Char> with the irc
disk?
L797[15:51:18] <Temia> The IRC disk
provides a good example, yes.
L798[15:51:21] <gamax92> mmhm, or if you
have oppm available, there's the wocchat client that's a bit more
graphical than the irc disk
L799[15:51:34] <payonel> Char: gamax92 is
the author of wocchat, btw
L800[15:51:41] <payonel> it is quite
good
L801[15:51:42] <gamax92> shameless self
promotion
L802[15:51:46] <payonel> :)
L803[15:51:49] <Temia> Plug plug
plug
L804[15:51:50] <Temia> :V
L805[15:51:54] <gamax92> lewd
L806[15:52:00] <payonel> o_O
L807[15:52:03] <gamax92> Dammit Inari what
have you done to me.
L808[15:52:11] <Inari> lol
L809[15:52:47] <Inari> cant say im much of
a fan of how rat mice look xD
L810[15:52:59] <payonel> Temia: in a lot
of ways, i'm undoing the dos :) plan9k benefits from having started
from the unix perspective
L811[15:53:02] *
CompanionCube injects gamax92 with an anti-lewd
injection
L812[15:53:09] <payonel> CompanionCube:
lewd
L813[15:53:18] <Char> Alright, for the
sake of convenience and not switching windows, I would like to put
this irc chat on a diff computer in mc.
L814[15:53:35] <Inari> also doesnt look
very comfortable :f
L815[15:53:49] <Char> setting up the
second PC and such, I would like to get this wocchat thing.
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L817[15:54:28] <Forecaster> if you're in
creative there's a command for spawning a computer
L818[15:54:36] <Inari> /oc_sc
L819[15:54:40] <Forecaster> ^
L820[15:54:56] *
payonel gets fragged by a computer
L822[15:55:05] *
Inari frags gamax92
L823[15:55:34] *
CompanionCube frags Inari and their lewds
L824[15:55:43] <Inari> rude
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L826[15:56:43] <Char> Alright.
L827[15:56:52] *
Skye gives CompanionCube a debugger
L828[15:56:58] <Char> I have the second
computer setup, it has an internet card. how do I install
wocchat?
L829[15:57:03] <CompanionCube> error:
permission denied
L831[15:58:06] <Forecaster> "oppm
install wocchat" perhaps?
L832[15:58:08] <Forecaster> not sure
L833[15:58:10] <payonel> Temia: ALSO, just
a small plug for openos shell upgrades :) you can now use ` -- i
JUST did this: edit `which install`
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L836[15:59:46] <Temia> Fun.
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L839[16:01:59] <S3> All of my friends are
married and have kids now
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L841[16:02:03] <S3> it's so weird
L842[16:02:06] <CharMC> Ello?
L843[16:02:10] <payonel> CharMC: !
L844[16:02:11] <payonel> welcome
L845[16:02:15] <CharMC> Well.
L846[16:02:17] <CharMC> neat.
L847[16:02:25] <Char> I can even talk to
myself.
L848[16:02:33] <payonel> Char: that's why
we use computers
L849[16:02:39] <payonel> to talk to
ourselves
L850[16:02:41] <CharMC> Heh :3
L851[16:02:43] <payonel> i'm not sure
anyone here is real
L852[16:02:45] <Inari> Inari: yes
L854[16:02:56] <CharMC> Alright,
L855[16:03:03] <CharMC> This helps a
crapton
L856[16:03:12] <gamax92> gamax92: Hey can
you get some burritos?
L857[16:03:14] <gamax92> gamax92:
Sure
L858[16:03:15] <Inari> hmm
L859[16:03:21] <CharMC> Alright
L860[16:03:24] <Inari> steelseries rival
700 or logitech g900/502
L861[16:03:39] <CharMC> Now that i have
Wocchat, No idea what to do.
L862[16:03:46] <CharMC> Can I open youtube
on this thing? lol.
L863[16:03:47] <payonel> CharMC: turn the
lamp on, remember? :)
L864[16:03:57] <payonel> CharMC: ah no
:)
L865[16:04:00] <CharMC> Shite.
L866[16:04:06] <payonel> heh
L867[16:04:14] <CharMC> But the lamp thing
I kinda got? I just used the redstone command.
L868[16:04:19] <CharMC> didnt do it
through lua.
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L870[16:04:33] <Forecaster> it's all Lua
:P
L871[16:04:37] <payonel> the lua prompt is
helpful for testing.
L872[16:04:40] <CharMC> well through
coding it.
L873[16:04:45] <payonel> Forecaster: i bet
CharMC means "lua prompt" :)
L874[16:04:49] <CharMC> yeah that
L875[16:04:54] <Inari> g900 seems like the
best, g502 shorly behind, but iu like the notifcation feature of
the rival 700 :f
L876[16:04:56] <payonel> CharMC: when you
have the code you want, save it in a script
L877[16:05:08] <CharMC> Hmm./
L878[16:05:10] <payonel> CharMC: openos
comes with a minimal editor: edit
L879[16:05:26] <payonel> edit
turn_on_lamp.lua
L880[16:05:35] <payonel> ^s saves, ^w
closes the file
L881[16:05:37] <gamax92> payonel: do you
ever want to make that editor not ... bad
L882[16:05:40] <gamax92> :
L883[16:05:42] <payonel> ha
L884[16:05:42] <gamax92> P
L885[16:05:43] <Inari> lol
L886[16:05:47] <CharMC> first can I just
say that Im still not over the fact I have the irc in game
L887[16:05:51] <payonel> gamax92: the
memory constraints i have are crazy
L888[16:05:54] <payonel> so....not
really?
L889[16:06:05] <gamax92> but it's
awful
L890[16:06:07] <Inari> what memory
ocnstriants
L891[16:06:14] <CharMC> ???
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L893[16:07:00] <Inari> payonel: it has to
run on a t1 stick ro what? :D
L894[16:09:13] <CharMC> so I can download
things with oppm and run them on the computer?
L895[16:09:25] <CharMC> like I did with
wocchat?
L896[16:09:32] <Forecaster> yes
L897[16:09:39] <CharMC> Neat.
L898[16:09:57] <Forecaster>
"things" being programs others have made that are
avaliable in the registry
L899[16:10:13] <Forecaster> you can get a
list with "oppm list"
L900[16:10:17] <CharMC> Nice.
L901[16:11:12] <CharMC> now. if I wanted
to add more cards to my PC, what would I have to do?
L902[16:11:24] <CharMC> could I just
connect my PC to a server with the cards in them?
L903[16:11:55] <Forecaster> maybe
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L906[16:17:16] <CharMC> do graphics cards
add to the resolution, the more you have?
L907[16:17:34] <Elizabeth> no
L908[16:18:23] <CharMC> Damnit
L909[16:18:33] <CharMC> so 160 by 50 is
the max?
L910[16:18:44] <Forecaster> each graphics
card can output to one screen
L911[16:19:28] <CharMC> Huh. so the more
graphics cards, the more screens?
L912[16:19:38] <Elizabeth> yes
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L914[16:19:41] <CharMC> Nice.
L915[16:19:52] <Forecaster> yeah, though
generally you'll only need one :P
L916[16:20:10] <CharMC> True.
L917[16:20:54] <Inari> its a bit
unfortunate, yeah
L918[16:21:18] <Forecaster> higher tier
screens are also touch sensetive
L919[16:21:39] <Inari> i'd like for maxres
to be bigger, but drawing limits staying the same, and then using
shaders for drawing
L920[16:24:22] <CharMC> Oh, does this have
an equivilent of MS paint?
L921[16:25:15] <Forecaster> dunno,
maybe
L922[16:25:25] <Forecaster> check the
forum or oppm
L923[16:26:02] <Forecaster> now I'm going
to bed!
L924[16:26:29] <CharMC> Night
L925[16:27:33] <CharMC> how do I scroll in
wocchat
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L931[16:39:35] <CharMC> Alright Im
back
L932[16:40:53] <CharMC> How do I access
Nanobots?
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L935[16:43:09] <CharMC> Heheheheh
L936[16:43:14] <CharMC2>
Heheheheheheh
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L939[16:46:25] <payonel> Inari: i need to
boot openos on 1 stick of t1 ram with at least enough wiggle room
for a basic basic script to run - and enough for the user to
realize they need more ram -- which we decided was 30k free
L940[16:46:51] <Inari> wiggle room,
eh?
L941[16:46:53] <payonel> T1 has 196k, that
leaves me 166k. openos 1.6 boot at about 165 or so right now i
think last i checked
L942[16:47:13] <payonel> maybe 168 .. i
forget
L943[16:47:18] <payonel> Inari: yes,
wiggle :)
L944[16:47:36] <Inari> lewd :2
L945[16:47:40] <payonel> now, it wasn't a
requirement that i boot on 1 stick of t1 ram :)
L946[16:47:45] <payonel> but, it was very
much appreciated
L947[16:47:56] <payonel> btw, 1.5 boots
taking 205k of ram
L948[16:48:36] <Inari> how much of that is
because of loading functions late?
L949[16:49:03] <payonel> i think the
'requirement' was wiggle room on T1.5, which is 256k, so i had 226
to work with, i could have increased ram cost by ~20k above
1.5
L950[16:49:25] <payonel> um....about 25k
of it is delay loaded
L951[16:49:53] <Skye> payonel, is stuff
unloaded?
L952[16:50:09] <payonel> Skye: i have a
rather simple branch (prototype) where i unloaded
L953[16:50:15] <payonel> Skye: but no, i
decided to NOT merge that in
L954[16:50:24] <Skye> it's like a memory
leak
L955[16:50:37] <payonel> 2 big reasons, 1.
ANY logic has cost, so keep in mind that the ability to unload
would still cost more
L956[16:50:39] <vifino> Elizabeth is
amazing. *cat is outside, trying to get in* <Lizzy> What's
the password?
L957[16:50:46] <payonel> it's not a leak
:) it's USED memory, reused on each call
L958[16:51:04] <Skye> payonel, say there
was a library
L959[16:51:07] <payonel> and 2. if a user
loads a method, it is likely they'll need it again
L960[16:51:08] <Inari> you're with lizzy
again?
L961[16:51:13] <Skye> that was used by one
program
L962[16:51:23] <Skye> then they wanted to
use another program
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L964[16:51:36] <payonel> Skye: i'm not
saying unloading has no value
L965[16:51:38] <CompanionCube> Inari, I
bet vifino only wishes they were with Lizzy now
L966[16:51:41] <payonel> i'm saying it did
not seem justified
L967[16:51:50] <CompanionCube> instead of
actually being with Lizzy
L968[16:52:03] <Inari> how would lizzy
talk to the cat then
L969[16:52:17] <Elizabeth> I'm in hangouts
with vifino
L970[16:52:23] <CharMC> Question, if I
were to save a blank lua file to a hard drive, could I then open
that file in the server folder and edit it?
L971[16:52:38] <CompanionCube> yes
L972[16:52:38] <Elizabeth> i went to let
my cat in from outside
L973[16:52:43] <CharMC> Sweet.
L974[16:52:56] <CompanionCube> and there's
a config option to make it take effect immediately
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L976[16:53:55] <payonel> CharMC: there is
some buffering, if you want to depend on that file being saved to
(real) disk on each save in-game, then change your config
L977[16:54:15] <CharMC> Alright.
L978[16:54:53] <payonel>
bufferChanges=false
L979[16:55:03] <payonel> look for
bufferChanges, default is true
L980[16:55:57] <Inari> i want a vibration
card
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L983[16:56:42] <CharMC> uhh, it was
already set to false.
L984[16:57:25] <payonel> CharMC: i would
not have expected that. my area is openos :) that's what i get for
trying to go out of my expertise
L985[16:57:40] <Inari> its tru eby default
i think though
L986[16:57:58] <CharMC> Awesome. now, if i
edited a lua script outside of the game, if the script is not
loaded, will it change when loaded ingame?
L987[16:58:05] <CharMC> or only after
server reload?
L988[16:58:37] <Inari> well you never have
to do a server reload
L989[16:58:45] <Inari> if bufferChanges is
off it shoudl have the change directly
L990[16:58:47] <CharMC> Server
startup
L991[16:58:50] <CharMC> Awesome
L992[16:58:55] <Inari> if not you usually
removed the harddrive or such its on
L993[16:58:56] <Inari> and put it back
in
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L995[17:00:21] <CharMC> I mean, save the
lua file on computer ingame, turn off computer, then edit file.
will the file will be edited ingame when the computer is turned
on?
L996[17:00:31] <CharMC> will the file
be*
L997[17:00:37] <Inari> thats what im sayin
g:P
L998[17:00:43] <CharMC> Alright,
thankyou.
L999[17:00:51] <Mimiru> You don't even
have to turn the computer off if you have the buffer disabled
L1000[17:00:57] <Inari> im just saying if
bufferChanges was still true you could just swap the drive/floppy
out to have it realod
L1001[17:00:59] <payonel> CharMC: with
buffering off, you shouldn't have to turn off the in-game
computer
L1002[17:01:00] <CharMC> Sweet
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L1004[17:02:13] <payonel> Skye: also, the
MAJORITY of memory savings in delay loading are shell prompt
actions
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L1006[17:03:02] <payonel> like, at least
75% of it
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L1008[17:03:17] <CharSO> Unlimited access
to the irc
L1009[17:03:37] <Inari> how does delay
loading even work? i mean you cant just handpick which function you
get when loading a file, or do you read the file nad just carve out
the functions that are annotated
L1010[17:03:51] <payonel> Inari: the
latter
L1011[17:03:56] <Inari> ah
L1012[17:04:17] <payonel> Inari: i
created about 5 prototypes for various forms of delay loading
L1013[17:04:36] <payonel>
annotations+custom loadfile code was the cheapest by far
L1014[17:04:50] <payonel> cheapest in
terms of bytes/function delay loaded
L1015[17:04:50] <Inari> nice haha
L1016[17:05:21] <payonel> in fact, all
delay load data is held in the same table, and all metatable
callbacks are the same single method
L1017[17:05:57] <Inari> are you using hte
eeprom to save memory in anyway?
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L1019[17:06:26] <payonel> i'm not - i
didn't know if i could
L1020[17:06:31] <payonel> well, i assume
i can't
L1021[17:06:34] <payonel> it'd
be...
L1022[17:06:41] <payonel> well
actually
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L1024[17:06:46] <payonel> Inari: you're
brilliant
L1025[17:06:49] <Inari> lol
L1026[17:06:53] <Char> Welp, I'll be off
for now.
L1027[17:06:54] <payonel> Inari: :)
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L1029[17:07:09] <Inari> im not even sure
what you just came up wiht :s
L1030[17:07:15] <payonel> Inari: i had
ignored the eeprom from the get-go because...i couldn't make
changes that created a dependency
L1031[17:07:30] <payonel> like, i can't
say -- "only the default eeprom" is required in order to
boot openos
L1032[17:07:54] <payonel> but...i might
be able to trick it
L1033[17:07:59] <Inari> yeah but you can
put extra code into it and such
L1034[17:08:07] <payonel> like, NOT load
something in openos if i detect the default eeprom has the code i
need
L1035[17:08:08] <Inari> while it can
still have the normal boot behaviour for other things
L1036[17:08:11] <payonel> yeah
L1037[17:08:18] <payonel> :)
L1038[17:08:24] <payonel> i might save
another 5-10 k here
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L1040[17:08:33] <payonel> it's pretty
nerdy how excited i am about this
L1041[17:08:39] <Inari> haha
L1042[17:08:40] <payonel> \o/
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L1044[17:16:24] <Skye> payonel, the
EEPROM only has 4K
L1045[17:18:36] <Inari> sh
L1046[17:18:39] <Inari> dont ruin his
dreams
L1047[17:19:05] <Inari> from what i
udnerstood it migth work with taht anyway though
L1048[17:23:27] <Skye> If you could stick
common functions in eeprom, it would be cool
L1049[17:23:36] <Skye> Like...
L1050[17:23:53] <Skye> Bit32 in
EEPROM
L1051[17:24:07] <Inari> Skye in
EEPROM
L1052[17:24:29] <Skye> Help me!
L1053[17:24:38] *
Inari tosses EEPROM into lava
L1054[17:24:53] *
Skye is dead
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L1056[17:25:02] <Skye> Inari: you're
evil
L1057[17:25:06] <Inari> :f
L1058[17:25:35] <Inari> Kimiro: what does
CB stand for even
L1059[17:27:11] <Elizabeth> "AAAHH I
can't feel my legs!!" "That's because your arms have been
blown off"
L1060[17:27:42] <Skye> Elizabeth:
wut
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L1068[17:32:55] <payonel> Skye, Inari:
it's not that i could store functions in eeprom to save memory --
ram is ram, if i load more in eeprom, it takes from available ram
for the os
L1069[17:33:09] <payonel> even if that's
a big dumb table, even if that fits in less text space than
4k
L1070[17:33:33] <payonel> but i could
look at making eeprom more efficient, maybe it's doing stuff that
could be optimized or unloade
L1071[17:33:35] <payonel> unloaded
L1072[17:33:55] <payonel> i remember
measuring once that eeprom allocated something like 12k of
ram
L1073[17:34:38] <payonel> im wrong --
part of that would have been openos init.lua being loaded
L1074[17:35:02] <Inari> heh
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L1076[17:35:16] <Skye> Payonel make
everything efficient
L1077[17:35:16] <Skye> It's the only
way
L1078[17:35:21] <payonel> anyways, i got
over excited about using eeprom to store stuff. for some reason
when Inari suggested eeprom i thought it would have its own memory
space
L1079[17:35:28] <payonel> but it doesnt
work that way, now that i thought about it
L1080[17:35:34] <Inari> it has a data
part :f
L1081[17:35:46] <Inari> of like
L1082[17:35:47] <Inari> 256 byte?
L1083[17:35:55] <payonel> what's the 4k
limitation then, Skye ?
L1084[17:36:05] <Inari> the code
part
L1085[17:36:13] <payonel> ah
L1086[17:36:19] <Inari> cant you like
though
L1087[17:36:22] <Inari> do swapping
L1088[17:36:26] <Inari> to floppies
etc
L1089[17:36:33] <payonel> no because i
can't serialize code chunks
L1090[17:36:41] <Inari> L<
L1091[17:36:42] <Inari> :<
L1092[17:36:44] <Skye> Hm
L1093[17:36:44] <Inari> fu lua
L1094[17:36:51] <payonel> well i can in
vanilla lua
L1095[17:36:55] <Skye> Sangar: make OC
allow for swap space
L1096[17:36:57] <payonel> but in oc
sandbox, i cannot
L1097[17:37:02] <payonel> ha
L1098[17:37:08] <Inari> cause bytecode
loading is off?
L1099[17:37:18] <payonel> yes
L1100[17:37:28] <Inari> hm
L1101[17:37:44] <Inari> well you could
still kind of do it, but the effort is probably not woth it
L1102[17:38:08] <Skye> Could you do it
for data?
L1103[17:38:09] <Inari> i.e. parse lua
scripts to be executed, sum up all variables into a table managed
by the OS
L1104[17:38:16] <Inari> swap that
stuff
L1105[17:38:17] <Inari> etc
L1106[17:38:28] <payonel> so write my own
lua parser and run that in openos ?
L1107[17:38:28] <Inari> keep track of
functions and unload ones not used for a long time xD
L1108[17:38:29] <payonel> :)
L1109[17:38:33] <Inari> haha
L1110[17:38:36] <Inari> well a
preprocessor
L1111[17:38:40] <Inari> that hcanges the
code
L1112[17:38:44] <Inari> and then loads
with norma llau
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L1114[17:39:58] <payonel> so keep in mind
that...for basically all methods that don't take a crucial role in
running the os -- i've already marked them for delay load
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L1116[17:41:24] <Inari> well in the worst
case secnario swapping would allow you to run anything on a t1
stick by just swappin gsingle functions and data sets
L1117[17:41:29] <Inari> of course that
would make execution very slow
L1118[17:41:50] <payonel> that's
true
L1119[17:42:26] <Inari> hm
L1120[17:42:51] <Inari> if you override
load/loadstring you can even catch all data being loaded that way
and parse it
L1121[17:43:10] <Inari> but dont mind me
:P as said its proabbyl not worht the ffort
L1122[17:43:57] <payonel> this would be a
sandbox in sandbox in a sandbox
L1123[17:44:12] <alekso56> yay i like
playing in sandboxes.
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L1126[17:54:27] <payonel> %tell Sangar it
would be nice to have pairs not cross [C] boundary. found another
issue
L1127[17:54:28] <MichiBot> payonel:
Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1128[17:54:42] <payonel> %tell Sangar i
can fix it, but, it'd be nice to not worry about it
L1129[17:54:42] <MichiBot> payonel:
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L1130[17:57:06] <Inari> what issue
;3
L1131[17:57:48] <payonel> if pairs is
defined in [C], and if __pairs is defined, and __pairs yields,
abort
L1132[17:58:02] <payonel> this can happen
if __pairs tries to read a file, and file io causes a yield
L1133[17:58:03] <Inari> o.o
L1134[17:58:20] <CompanionCube> freenode
is getting spammed again
L1135[17:58:42] <payonel> but, if Sangar
adds __pairs to machine.lua, then calling metatable.__pairs is no
longer a [C] boundary crossing
L1136[17:59:21] <payonel> it's a somewhat
simple intercept: pairs = function(tbl) return ((getmetatable(tbl)
or {}).__pairs or original_pairs)(tbl) end
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L1174[21:32:09] <gamax92> alekso56:
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L1187[22:58:45] <Vexatos> ._.
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L1191[23:03:04] <Antheus> .-.
L1192[23:03:11] <payonel> -.-
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