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L7[00:23:01] <Kodos> I fucking hate
mice
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L9[00:31:23] <gamax92> That was four
words!
L10[00:31:38] <Kimiro> Hodor is fucking
dead.
L11[00:31:44] <Kimiro> ;w;
L12[00:32:08] <Kodos> Wow, I should kick
you for spoiling
L13[00:32:42] <gamax92> You should do
it!
L14[00:38:04] <Kimiro> Ignore those four
words.
L15[00:38:36] <Kodos> Yeah, kind of hard to
once they're spoken
L16[00:38:52] <Kodos> For future reference,
please don't spoil popular shows, on the off chance someone doesn't
watch them at airtime
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L37[03:45:46] <Saintmare> hi
L38[03:45:52] <Saintmare> pls help
L39[03:45:56] <Forecaster> greeblings
L40[03:46:01] <Forecaster> with?
L41[03:46:05] <Saintmare> i need to control
command block
L42[03:46:24] <Saintmare> with OC, of
course
L43[03:46:33] <Forecaster> adapter
L44[03:47:25] <Forecaster> ~oc
adapter
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L51[04:20:07] <Saintmare> i want to send
messages with comblock
L52[04:20:16] <Lizzy> Morning
L53[04:20:32] <Saintmare> i dont now what
API i should use
L54[04:20:36] <Saintmare> *know
L55[04:23:15] <Saintmare> so i found
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L57[04:30:48] <Forecaster> Saintmare:
you're making little sense
L58[04:31:04] <Forecaster> look at the
adapter
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L64[05:16:08] <Elizabeth> :P
L65[05:17:37] <Inari> Elizabeth: ohi
L66[05:18:33] <Elizabeth> hai <3
L68[05:19:40] <Elizabeth> :O?
L70[05:20:04] <Elizabeth> :o
L72[05:20:19] *
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L75[05:27:08] <Forecaster> but cake
:O
L78[05:29:52] <Forecaster> Cake!
L80[05:30:43] <Inari> Forecaster:
haha
L81[05:33:38] <Forecaster> that made me
want to watch Kung Fu Hustle again...
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L84[05:44:45] <Forecaster> yeah, that's a
thing
L85[05:44:50] <Forecaster> anime
thing
L86[05:44:59] <Inari> that aitn anime
:f
L87[05:45:18] <Forecaster> the
character
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L96[06:39:20] <Forecaster> that is pretty
neat
L98[06:40:51] <Forecaster> d'aw
L100[06:50:24] <Inari> haha
L101[06:50:25] <Inari> +1
L102[06:50:54] <Forecaster> heh,
signs
L103[06:51:19] <Inari> i'd actaulyl like a
world in which signs hold some accuracy though
L104[06:51:33] <Inari> as well as
fortunes
L105[06:51:34] <Inari> etc
L106[06:53:18] <Inari> i wish i could buy
shinto fortunes ;-;
L107[06:54:04] <Forecaster> dunno what
that is
L108[06:54:07] <Forecaster> :P
L109[06:54:30] <Inari> just like a fortune
thingy you buy at a shrine and it has different levels of luck for
different areas like love/work/etc also with some small descriptons
or such :P
L110[06:54:34] <Inari> basically
horoscopes but more random
L111[06:55:11] <Forecaster> seems legit
:P
L112[06:55:32] <Inari> eh, i just like
such things :P even if i know they arent accurate haha
L113[06:55:38] <Inari> just like i'd liek
to but some charms
L114[06:55:59] <Forecaster> but all the
charms you want :P
L115[06:56:14] <Inari> i would if i found
a place to buy them :P
L116[06:56:41] <Forecaster> no, but them
:D
L117[06:56:46] <Inari> lol
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L121[07:07:24] <Forecaster> lists? or the
things in this list? :P
L122[07:08:54] <Elizabeth> the things in
the list
L123[07:09:01] <Elizabeth> also human
incompitance
L124[07:09:17] <Forecaster> yeah,
incompitance is the worst
L125[07:10:37] <Forecaster> #9 is amazing
:P
L126[07:13:03] <Forecaster> and by amazing
I mean amusing
L127[07:13:29] <Forecaster> I worked at a
computer repair shop once, and I remember getting in a dvd player
for some reason
L129[07:14:04] <Forecaster> I forget what
was wrong with it, but I noticed that it's rattling, so I removed
the case, and found that there were like 6 dvd discs inside
L130[07:16:25] <Forecaster> the tray was
close to the top and you could lift the case and see inside
L131[07:16:32] <Elizabeth> a few of the
dvd players at my mums have a habit of ejecting the disk into it's
casing
L132[07:16:53] <Forecaster> presumably the
discs had been pushed inside the case when the tray closed because
they weren't put in properly
L133[07:17:13] <Forecaster> or, god
forbid, someone had pushed them into the case thinking that's how
it worked
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L140[08:05:56] <Inari> whys there a
EntityJoinWorldEvent but no EntityLeaveWorldEvent
L141[08:05:56] <Inari> o.o
L142[08:28:51] *
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L152[09:05:38] <Inari> why you dont /me,
ServerChatEvent
L153[09:07:44] <gamax92> Because You
haven't subscribe to InariEvent
L154[09:08:19] <Inari> wat
L155[09:09:09] <Trangar> Have you accepted
Jesus as your savior?
L156[09:11:57] *
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L157[09:12:17] <Elizabeth> Trangar, I
think you'll find our lord and saviour is Satan!
L158[09:13:10] <Trangar> Elizabeth, what
about the spaghetti monster?
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L160[09:19:13] <gamax92> meow
L161[09:19:17] <gamax92> what?
L162[09:19:35] <Elizabeth> Trangar,
they're up there as well
L163[09:19:49] <Trangar> Having a
party
L164[09:20:30] <gamax92> Having a BLAST
PROCESSING
L165[09:21:47] <Trangar> Assuming God
exists, and He is omnipotent, does that mean that everything is set
in stone and we don't actually have a free will?
L166[09:22:18] <gamax92> Can we not.
L167[09:22:46] <Temia> If I want my soul
in the hands of someone infernal, I'll just choose Infel! o/
L168[09:23:00] <Temia> ... I'm not good at
making puns though.
L169[09:23:04] <gamax92> heh
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L171[09:23:38] <Trangar> Temia, it's okay,
we still love you
L172[09:23:44] *
Temia mu ;w;
L173[09:24:56] *
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L174[09:24:59] <Elizabeth> m
L175[09:25:01] <Elizabeth> _¬
L176[09:25:04] <Elizabeth> ffs
L177[09:25:07] *
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L178[09:25:08] *
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L179[09:25:12] <gamax92> you tried
L180[09:25:20] *
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L181[09:25:30] *
Temia leeeans into pets. =w=
L182[09:28:13] *
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L183[09:28:50] *
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L188[09:40:25] <vifino> I'm gonna go get
myself a coffee, anyone else wants one too?
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L196[10:24:56] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar OC
1.6 when
L197[10:24:58] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L198[10:25:57] <gamax92> midi velocity
curve wat?
L199[10:27:06] <Vexatos> dammit, getting
segfaults launching minecraft like 50% of times
L200[10:27:08] <Vexatos> what the
heck
L201[10:27:25] <gamax92> Vexatos: did you
ever figure out your audio issue?
L202[10:27:29] <Vexatos> no
L203[10:27:35] <gamax92> okay
L204[10:27:40] <Vexatos> but it is
reproducable
L205[10:27:44] <Vexatos> still happening
today
L206[10:28:02] <Vexatos> actually
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L208[10:28:02] <Vexatos> wait
L209[10:28:04] <Vexatos> I have sound
now
L210[10:28:14] <Vexatos> but only random
popping
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L212[10:28:55] <Vexatos> but only in some
places of the song
L213[10:29:14] <Vexatos> yep
L214[10:29:34] <Vexatos> any clue,
gamax92?
L215[10:30:35] <vifino> Vexatos:
integrated sound card?
L216[10:30:48] <Vexatos> vifino, hm?
L217[10:30:48] <vifino> perhaps
intel?
L218[10:30:59] <Vexatos> vifino, literally
any other sound is fine.
L219[10:31:09] <vifino> answer my fucking
questions.
L220[10:31:12] <gamax92> including tape
drives?
L221[10:31:18] <gamax92> since that uses
the same system
L222[10:31:22] <Vexatos> vifino,
integrated
L223[10:31:27] <Vexatos> gamax92,
yeo
L224[10:31:31] <Vexatos> tape drives 100%
fine
L225[10:31:34] <gamax92> We need a third
party!
L226[10:31:44] <vifino> Vexatos: high
pitch sounds are the problem?
L227[10:31:47] <Vexatos> no
L228[10:31:51] <Vexatos> any sound at
all
L229[10:31:55] <Vexatos> apart from the
popping
L230[10:32:00] <Vexatos> aaaand segfault
again, java pls
L231[10:32:17] <gamax92> (I think
Vexatos's computer is at fault but never know P)
L232[10:32:18] <vifino> try to run your
sound sound system in 16 bit output mode
L233[10:32:21] <Vexatos> Shouldn't have
updated java
L234[10:33:23] <Vexatos> oh nice
L235[10:33:28] <Vexatos> it's a segfault
caused by asm
L237[10:34:15] <vifino> Vexatos: sound
system 16-bit sample output mode go
L238[10:34:56] <Vexatos> gamax92, just
tested tape drive
L239[10:35:00] <Vexatos> works 100%
L240[10:35:08] <Vexatos> and that uses the
exact same backend
L241[10:35:13] <Vexatos> soooo can't be my
system, really
L242[10:35:19] <Vexatos> must be a
programming error on our side
L243[10:35:21] <Vexatos> somewhere
._.
L244[10:35:43] <gamax92> Temia: wanna test
sound card?
L245[10:37:18] <Vexatos> gamax92,
confirmed
L246[10:37:33] <Vexatos> rolled back to
9aa8f2419373e1a9e4157fb1be2feaefaf03b857
L247[10:37:35] <Vexatos> works again
L248[10:37:37] <gamax92> Vexatos: oh, I
should make sure your song player isn't broken though
>_>
L249[10:37:42] <gamax92> lemme see what
that is
L250[10:37:42] <Vexatos> let me roll
forward until I find the faulty commit
L251[10:37:59] <Vexatos> the
player?+
L253[10:38:27] <gamax92> Vexatos: here,
open up the player, is setFrequency in there
L255[10:38:40] <Vexatos>
.__________________________________________________________
L256[10:38:42] <Vexatos> welll
L257[10:38:45] <gamax92> it's not.
L258[10:38:46] <Vexatos> this may explain
the issue
L259[10:38:51] <Vexatos>
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
L260[10:38:53] <gamax92> go split the
setWave into two calls
L261[10:38:54] <Vexatos>
wwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel
L262[10:38:57] <Vexatos> yes
L263[10:38:58] <Vexatos> uh
L264[10:38:59] <Temia> muh. Maybe. =.=
sleepy.
L265[10:39:02] *
Vexatos headdesks
L266[10:39:20] *
gamax92 pulls Temia into lap and softly pets over, sleepy
moo
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L268[10:39:34] <LuMistry> Greetings
L269[10:39:52] *
Temia tailswishes lazily. =w= muuu.
L270[10:41:03] *
Vexatos throws a sound card at temia. Gently.
L271[10:41:25] *
Temia is struck in the head, faceplants xwx
L272[10:41:59] <Vexatos> gamax92, OH WOULD
YOU LOOK AT THAT, IT WORKS
L273[10:42:06] <Vexatos> FLAWLESSLY
L274[10:42:17] <Vexatos> now uh
L275[10:42:19] <Vexatos> we need many
people
L276[10:42:29] <Vexatos> to test how to
balance the default limits
L277[10:42:31] <Trangar> What do I need to
do, sir?
L278[10:42:35] <Vexatos> on delay and
queue size
L279[10:42:36] <Trangar> And/or
ma'am
L280[10:42:46] <Vexatos> I've been male
last time I checked.
L281[10:42:54] <Elizabeth> are you
sure?
L282[10:42:58] <Vexatos> Elizabeth,
quite.
L283[10:43:06] <Elizabeth> have you doubl
checked?
L284[10:43:07] <Vexatos> There's always
room for error, of course.
L285[10:43:29] <Vexatos> Elizabeth, with
significant confidence I can confirm
L286[10:43:37] <Trangar> There's surgery
to fix that
L287[10:43:39] <Vexatos> Trangar, test the
sound card?
L288[10:43:43] <Vexatos> Trangar,
"fix"
L289[10:43:44] <Vexatos> :X
L290[10:43:48] <Trangar> :D
L291[10:43:57] <Trangar> You said "we
need many people"
L292[10:43:59] <Trangar> I am
people!
L293[10:44:04] <Vexatos> hi people, I'm
Vex
L294[10:44:14] <Trangar> Nice to meet you,
vechs
L295[10:46:35] <Vexatos> gamax92 and I
need people to test the sound card
L296[10:46:53] <Vexatos> and see what kind
of limits in the total delay in a queue and the queue size itself
would be sane defaults
L297[10:47:04] <Vexatos> asie, you might
be able to help... You and your team of professionals ;)
L298[10:47:18] <Vexatos> Might also want a
few bandwidth tests before the big test in late july
L299[10:47:40] <Vexatos> (It's a
conspiracy: BTM 16.2 is actually just meant as a sound card
performance test)
L300[10:48:16] <g> I'm really surprised
that there's no NEI for 1.9 yet
L301[10:48:19] <g> such a pivotal
mod
L302[10:48:41] <Vexatos> JEI?
L303[10:48:50] <g> really lacking in
features, but yeah, that's a thing
L304[10:49:22] <Vexatos> features?
L305[10:49:29] <Vexatos> What do you need
for a recipe viewer
L306[10:49:33] <Vexatos> apart from
viewing recipes
L307[10:49:47] <g> potion/enchantment
workbench, integrations with other mods (eg the tconstruct
smeltery, and other modded machine recipes)
L308[10:49:59] <asie> Vexatos:
D:<
L309[10:50:10] <Vexatos> g, there's other
mods for that
L310[10:50:11] <Vexatos> >_>
L311[10:50:22] <Vexatos> also if TCon
doesn't have JEI support yet, yell at boni
L312[10:50:31] <g> I don't want other mods
for that
L314[10:50:44] <Vexatos> asie, what? You
know you want to
L315[10:50:45] <g> mekanism, tconstruct,
enderio and many other mods support NEI out of the box
L316[10:51:16] <g> besides, JEI doesn't
show oredict names and stuff
L317[10:51:36] <Vexatos> g: Now tell me
the mods which support NEI on 1.9 ;)
L318[10:51:55] <g> none, I guess :P
L319[10:52:13] <g> but when NEI comes
around again I assume they'll keep the integrations they used to
have
L320[10:52:35] <Vexatos> NEI? Is
dead
L321[10:52:36] <Vexatos> :P
L322[10:52:43] <g> oh? TIL
L323[10:52:44] <Vexatos> Will be replaced
by JEI and NEU
L324[10:52:53] <g> What's NEU?
L325[10:53:06] <Saphire> how did NEI even
died? o.O
L326[10:53:11] <Vexatos> Saphire, by JEI
being better.
L327[10:53:22] <g> it is a lot nicer
L328[10:53:24] <g> I must admit
L329[10:53:26] <g> and faster, too
L330[10:53:31] <Vexatos> especially for
mod authors
L331[10:53:32] <g> but doesn't have
feature parity yet
L332[10:53:37] <Vexatos> it's a PITA to
get NEI support working
L333[10:53:47] <Vexatos> g: It is also
less bloated
L334[10:53:56] <Vexatos> with things that
don't belong into a recipe viewer
L335[10:54:07] <g> you said the same thing
I just said but in a negativew ay
L337[10:54:36] <g> so what's NEU? Not
Enough.. Utilities?
L338[10:54:38] <g> Umlauts?
L339[10:54:45] <Saphire> Ubers?
L340[10:54:51] <g> Underscores?
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L342[10:56:08] <g> I can't just google
NEU
L343[10:56:18] <g> I just get loads of
german youtube results
L344[10:56:34] <gamax92> g: !
L345[10:56:41] <g> gamax92: ?
L346[10:56:44] <gamax92> ?!?
L347[10:56:49] <Vexatos> g: Might be
because he's not working on it yet >_>
L349[10:57:02] <Vexatos> chickenbones
>_>
L350[10:57:05] <g> oh, this is another
chickenbones venture? okay
L351[10:57:14] <Vexatos> a JEI addon,
supposedly
L352[10:57:35] <g> hm, okay
L353[10:57:54] <Vexatos> no news about
it
L354[10:58:14] <g> guess I'll have to
watch out for it
L355[10:58:30] <g> I want to move to 1.9
soon because holy performance improvements batman
L356[10:58:53] <g> I haven't had MC run at
an unbroken 60 FPS since classic
L357[10:58:57] <Vexatos> gamax92, weird
issue. When songplayer runs and I hit the stop button, it stops,
but then starts again for a second and then finally turns off
L358[10:59:14] <gamax92> the stop
button?
L359[10:59:28] <Vexatos> power button in
case
L360[10:59:45] <gamax92> that's
unnecessarily brutal
L361[11:00:00] <Vexatos> yes but it should
stop playing like the stop button in tape drives
L362[11:00:24] <gamax92> it probably wont
because the card's environment goes poof when you do that.
L363[11:00:26] <g> say, if you don't need
the speaker to play tapes, what is the speaker for?
L364[11:00:43] <g> can I just output dfpwm
to it directly?
L365[11:02:02] <Vexatos> gamax92, but it
should receive a computer.stopped signal first .-.
L366[11:02:40] <Vexatos> oh wait
L367[11:02:41] <Vexatos> derp
L368[11:02:45] <gamax92> u derp.
L369[11:02:47] <Vexatos> I haven't merged
that change into 1.9 branch yet
L370[11:02:56] <gamax92> \o/
L371[11:03:01] <gamax92> I have been
testing on 1.7.10
L372[11:04:05] <Vexatos> wait, i
have
L373[11:04:07] <Vexatos> wat
L374[11:06:39] *
Elizabeth groans
L375[11:06:45] <Elizabeth> 1 hour
left
L376[11:07:18] <Trangar> 1 hour closer to
inevitable death
L377[11:07:47] ***
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L378[11:07:59] <g> Trangar: I bet you're
fun at parties
L380[11:08:22] <Trangar> I'm all the
rage!
L381[11:08:28] <Trangar> Like, literally
rage, people want to punch me
L382[11:08:39] <Vexatos> gamax92, fixed,
had to set nextBuffer = null on stop too
L383[11:08:41] <Vexatos> obviously
L384[11:10:22] <gamax92> Windows: ETA 3
minutes, ETA 30, ETA 21, ETA 16, ETA 12, finished
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L386[11:18:02] <Vexatos> gamax92,
sendSound(nextBuffer) inside a synchronized may not be a good idea,
or is it fine :|
L387[11:18:09] <Vexatos> (making
nextBuffer thread-safe
L388[11:18:10] <Vexatos> )
L389[11:18:20] <gamax92> Ask someone who's
not me
L390[11:19:30] <Trangar> Or me
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L392[11:23:09] <Elizabeth> o/
techno156
L393[11:23:10] <Elizabeth> ¬_¬
L394[11:23:17] <Elizabeth> o/
Techokami
L395[11:23:22] <Techokami> ahoy
L396[11:23:22] <Techokami> sup
L397[11:25:14] <tiddles> Hiya, anyone
playing with TIS-3D? I know I am, and I'm slightly irritated at the
moment - multiple NOPs in a row don't seem to register correctly,
my program skips them after the 2nd one. ;_;
L398[11:25:40] <Techokami> playing with
TIS-3D is something deep down on the bottom of my todo list
L399[11:25:49] <tiddles> I'm vaguely
wondering if this is by design or not, welp.
L400[11:26:12] <Trangar> I don't even know
what TIS-3D is
L401[11:26:16] <Sangar> o/
L402[11:26:25] <Inari> well theres the
person to ask
L403[11:26:25] <Inari> :p
L404[11:26:27] <Techokami> it's Sangar's
latest mod
L405[11:26:39] <Trangar> Oh
L406[11:26:49] <tiddles> Techokami: well,
I just passed TIS-100 the other week, and I learned about it the
week before, so heh
L407[11:26:52] <tiddles> I'm on a
roll
L408[11:26:57] <Sangar> Vexatos, when
multiparts in forge, want to realease all at once
L409[11:27:11] <Sangar> as for nops, i
can't remember >_>
L410[11:27:27] <Vexatos> uuuh there is one
thing keeping me from releaseing Computronics along with OC
L411[11:27:42] <Vexatos> the tape drive is
still wrongly rotated on 1.9 and I have no idea why ;_;
L412[11:27:48] <Vexatos> can anyone help?
maybe? ._.
L413[11:27:53] <tiddles> Sangar: welp,
probably not by explicit design, then ;)
L414[11:28:10] <Vexatos> But only in first
person!
L415[11:28:15] <Techokami> Trangar: it
implements the computers from TIS-100 in Minecraft, as faces on
cubes rather than a 2D plane. Also adds a bunch of extra panel
types for Minecraft-y things, like Redstone
L416[11:28:25] <Vexatos> and tape
reading
L417[11:28:36] <gamax92> and gives you
cake
L418[11:28:38] <Sangar> oh, right, i
remember
L419[11:28:43] <Sangar> nop is translated
to add 0
L420[11:28:47] <Sangar> so it shouldn't be
skipped, really
L421[11:28:58] <Inari> so cheaty
L422[11:29:05] <tiddles> hmmmm. let me
see, then
L423[11:29:05] <Sangar> so spec
L424[11:29:08] <MajGenRelativity> sup
Snagar
L425[11:29:10] <Inari> :p
L426[11:29:10] <Trangar> I don't know what
TIS-100 is either
L427[11:29:13] <Sangar> eyo
L428[11:29:20] <MajGenRelativity> how's
life?
L429[11:29:35] <tiddles> Trangar: it's a
puzzle game about assembly language that nobody asked for ;)
L430[11:29:35] <Sangar> i'm pretty sure i
remember the tis-100 manual stating that nop is add 0 even, so i'd
assume it's the same
L431[11:29:40] <Sangar> life's good
L432[11:29:46] <MajGenRelativity> good
good
L433[11:29:47] <Inari> NOP is
automatically converted to the instruction ADD NIL.
L434[11:29:49] <Techokami> Trangar, it's a
puzzle game on Steam that uses a custom assembly language
L435[11:29:52] <Trangar> Oh
L436[11:29:56] <Trangar> I don't like
steam
L437[11:29:59] <Techokami> booooooo
L438[11:30:01] <MajGenRelativity> I'm
about to try OC 1.6 if I can get my server de-lagged :D
L439[11:30:06] <Sangar> didn't ask for,
but great nonetheless :P
L440[11:30:14] <Sangar> heh
L441[11:30:23] <tiddles> Sangar: well yeah
it is, I was quoting their own descrption xD
L442[11:30:24] <Inari> Trangar: good that
its bothon gog and humblebundlethen]
L443[11:30:28] <MajGenRelativity> Trangar,
did you just say you don't like steam?
L444[11:30:36] <Trangar> MajGenRelativity,
I did!
L445[11:30:42] <Sangar> ah
L446[11:30:56] <MajGenRelativity> quick
question, do you own a console?
L447[11:31:02] <Trangar> Nope
L448[11:31:06] <MajGenRelativity> a
mac?
L449[11:31:12] <Trangar> Nope
L450[11:31:21] <tiddles> Sangar: also,
hey, I appreciate adding SHL/SHR/AND/OR/XOR to the instruction
set
L451[11:31:23] <MajGenRelativity> a
PC?
L452[11:31:27] <Trangar> Yes
L453[11:31:29] <tiddles> Sangar: and
single-stepping by controller right-click :3
L454[11:31:30] <Forecaster> *why* don't
you like steam?
L455[11:31:36] <MajGenRelativity> Then I
can't figure it out
L456[11:31:49] <Trangar> It's a DRM
system, and I'd rather just give my money to the developer
directly
L457[11:31:51] <MajGenRelativity> I was
hoping to peg you as something other than a PC owner, but you
aren't
L458[11:32:00] <Trangar> And the community
is toxic
L459[11:32:01] <Forecaster> this is
true
L460[11:32:08] <MajGenRelativity> But,
Lord GabeN is the Lord and Savior of the PC MasterRace
L461[11:32:09] <Forecaster> that isn't
universally true
L462[11:32:15] *
MajGenRelativity pulls ripcord on conversation
L463[11:32:21] <MajGenRelativity> I'm out
of this now
L464[11:32:23] <Trangar> "Lord"
GabeN is a manager that only says something if it'll increase
sales/his image
L465[11:32:34] <Inari> Trangar: the
community depends where you go, as with every place. and theres are
DRM free games on it
L466[11:32:36] <Sangar> tiddles, yeah,
stepping was quite required for debugging the system itself
:D
L467[11:32:56] <Forecaster> the minecraft
modding community can also be toxic, yet here we are
L468[11:32:57] <Forecaster> :P
L469[11:33:12] <Trangar> This is why I
usually don't get involved with the minecraft community :P
L470[11:33:23] <tiddles> Sangar: I don't
even know if that's documented, I assumed it would be there and it
was xD
L471[11:33:47] <Forecaster> I'm saying
that everyone on steam isn't a jerk
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L473[11:34:04] <Forecaster> just as not
everyone who deals with mc modding isn't a jerk
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L475[11:35:00] <gamax92> I'm 100% right
34% of the time
L476[11:35:10] <Trangar> This is true, but
steam has no added value for me, so I'd rather just install the
games directly without having to start up steam every time I want
to play something
L477[11:35:26] <gamax92> Trangar: what
about GOG?
L478[11:35:39] <Trangar> I never tried
GOG
L479[11:35:41] <Forecaster> steam has
advantages though, like the workshop
L480[11:35:45] <Forecaster> I like
that
L481[11:36:12] <Forecaster> not relevant
for all games of course
L482[11:36:27] <Trangar> I think the only
game that I played that had workshop integration was Cities
Skylines
L483[11:36:30] <Sangar> tiddles, haha,
glad to hear it's intuitive for at least some people ;)
L484[11:36:46] <MajGenRelativity> Civ V
and Civ BE use the workshop, and I own both
L485[11:36:52] <gamax92> I've played
several games that use the workshop
L486[11:36:59] <Forecaster> me too
L487[11:37:02] <MajGenRelativity> Although
I'm also practically drooling at the incoming Civ VI
L488[11:37:20] <tiddles> Sangar: okay so,
the nop thing is a display bug in fact
L489[11:37:20] <MajGenRelativity> Spoiler
Alert: Ghandi Nukes remain
L490[11:37:25] <Sangar> civ 6 will murder
my free time, i see it coming already
L491[11:37:34] <gamax92> /ban
MajGenRelativity spoilers
L492[11:37:34] <tiddles> witness the
before and after step screenshots
L493[11:37:49] <MajGenRelativity> Sangar,
it will murder my time too
L494[11:38:03] <MajGenRelativity> I've
logged 620 hours in Civ V
L495[11:38:16] <MajGenRelativity> Trangar,
here's one of Steam's 'nice' features
L496[11:38:24] <Sangar> wow >_> i
"only" have 277
L497[11:38:24] <MajGenRelativity> It tells
you how much time you've wasted playing games XD
L498[11:38:46] <Trangar> How is that nice
again? :P
L500[11:38:55] <Forecaster> he said
'nice'
L501[11:38:56] <Forecaster> :P
L502[11:39:04] <MajGenRelativity> Sangar,
just my primary MC instance logged 2 contiguous weeks of playtime
over a little more than a year
L503[11:39:14] <Trangar> I think I'll be
fine without that feature, it'll be hard, but I'll survive
L504[11:39:16] <MajGenRelativity> MC+Civ =
almost all of my computer time
L505[11:39:17] <tiddles> Sangar: in
general it seems that the graphical program counter never advances
when there's more than 2 NOPs in a row :o
L506[11:39:41] <Sangar> tiddles, hrmm,
probably some optimization to avoid sending too many packets being
a derp
L507[11:40:03] <Forecaster> besides,
steams drm system isn't tamper proof should steam ever implode
;)
L508[11:40:45] <g> you'd just have to
replace the DLL, I imagine
L509[11:40:58] <tiddles> Sangar: oddly
enough it works correctly with literal ADD 0
L510[11:41:25] ***
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L511[11:41:40] <gamax92> Sangar: what if
you made a mod that works around OW2 ASM? :>
L512[11:42:18] <Sangar> that *is*
odd
L513[11:42:20] <Sangar> gamax92, wat
L514[11:43:23] <gamax92> Sangar: build a
Java class using ASM :3
L515[11:43:44] <Sangar> hell no :X
L516[11:44:10] <gamax92> hell yeah!
L517[11:44:19] <tiddles> Sangar: hmm. I
might have a look later today - is there a good doc about setting
up a minecraft modding environment for someone who's a programmer,
but never touched Java? xD
L518[11:44:42] <Sangar> there's a video
cpw made recently
L519[11:45:23] <Sangar> but the gist is:
clone repo, run `gradlew sDecW`, wait, run `gradlew idea` (or
`gradlew eclipse`), open project
L520[11:45:59] <Sangar> (and final step,
in idea, underp run config by pointing it to ProjectName_main
instead of just ProjectName)
L521[11:47:48] ***
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L522[11:48:39] <Vexatos> Sangar, are you
only going to release for 1.7 and 1.9?
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L525[11:48:47] <Vexatos> 1.7.10 /
1.9.4*
L526[11:49:03] <Sangar> Vexatos, probably
also 1.8.9
L527[11:49:15] <Sangar> depending on the
beta download numbers will see what to do with the release
L528[11:50:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, you also
have three IDEA projects running at once? :P
L529[11:51:10] <Vexatos> too tedious to
switch branches and re-gradle >_>
L530[11:51:14] <Sangar> yes
L531[11:51:29] <Sangar> one directory per
mc version :P
L532[11:51:54] <Vexatos> indeed
L533[11:52:01] <Vexatos>
Development/modname-version
L534[11:52:02] <Vexatos> >_>
L535[11:52:55] <Sangar> i have
modname-dev-mcversion; i at least switch to the stable branches on
demand because it's only for releases anyway :P
L536[11:53:08] <Vexatos> Sangar, sound
card tests when
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L539[11:54:27] <Sangar> oh yeah, the sound
card. uhh... yeah. will see. depends on how distracted i get by
other thigns :P
L541[11:54:59] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
GreaseMonkey will be notified of this message when next seen.
L542[11:55:24] <Vexatos> %tell
GreaseMonkey yes it has highly customizable LFSR noise stuff.
L543[11:55:25] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
GreaseMonkey will be notified of this message when next seen.
L544[11:55:34] <Trangar> %tell Vexatos
hi
L545[11:55:36] <MichiBot> Trangar: Vexatos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L546[11:55:40] <Vexatos> %tell Trangar hi
too
L547[11:55:41] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Trangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L548[11:55:58] <Trangar> o/
L549[11:56:06] <Sangar> <_>
L550[11:56:07] <payonel> Shuudoushi:
hi
L551[11:56:14] <Sangar> ohai payo!
L552[11:56:21] <payonel> Sangar:
hello!
L553[11:56:46] <payonel> i need to update
the docs - i get pings with more and more openos 1.6
questions
L554[11:56:47] <Forecaster> time for
Gungeon!
L555[11:56:50] <Forecaster> (on
steam)
L556[11:56:58] <Sangar> heh
L557[11:57:05] <Sangar> good dying
:P
L558[11:57:10] <payonel> Sangar: i think
last i heard you were waiting for a update for 1.9 before 1.6
rollout?
L559[11:57:26] <payonel> i should get the
docs done before that
L560[11:57:30] <Sangar> payonel, yeah,
would like to use the built-in multipart system once it's
merged
L561[11:57:36] <payonel> ah
L562[11:57:44] <payonel> is there an eta
on that?
L563[11:57:48] *
Sangar shrugs
L564[11:57:50] <payonel> ok
L565[11:57:54] <Sangar> someone said next
weekend
L566[11:57:59] <payonel> ok
L567[11:58:13] <Vexatos> Forecaster, did
you say stream? :>
L568[11:58:20] <Vexatos> I could take more
gungeon from you any day :D
L569[11:58:22] <Forecaster> nope
L570[11:58:27] <Forecaster> I don't
stream
L571[11:58:29] <Vexatos> it is soooooo
much fun to watch you
L572[11:58:33] <Shuudoushi> payonel:
hi
L573[11:58:38] <Elizabeth> home time
L574[11:58:46] <Forecaster> my computer
would probably implode if I tried to stream
L575[11:58:48] <Forecaster> :>
L576[11:58:49] <payonel> Shuudoushi: :)
did you have a question?
L577[11:58:51] <Vexatos> %tell payonel how
does OpenOS 1.6 work?
L578[11:58:51] <MichiBot> Vexatos: payonel
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L579[11:58:53] <Shuudoushi> yes
L580[11:58:57] <payonel> Vexatos:
magic
L581[11:59:24] <Shuudoushi> you know how I
was setting program paths through the login script right?
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L583[11:59:47] <Shuudoushi> will adding
this line to /etc/profile work as well? set
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/home/$USER/bin:/root:.
L584[12:00:33] <Forecaster> I wish the
birds outside would shut up so I didn't have to close my window
:I
L585[12:00:43] <gamax92> chirp chirp
L586[12:02:54] <Forecaster> I can still
hear them faintly with it closed
L587[12:03:07] <Forecaster> but at least
they don't get picked up by the recording
L588[12:03:17] <gamax92> chp chp
L589[12:03:24] <Sangar> tiddles, ahh,
found the issue... state update is sent if the instruction changes.
nop is a singleton instruction, so it doesn't change :P
L590[12:05:32] <Sangar> why don't i do
that check based on the program counter anyway? .-. i hate it when
i'm not sure if there was a reason for something i did, or if i was
just being a derp
L591[12:06:00] <gamax92> oh, Vexatos
L592[12:06:16] <gamax92>
setLFSR(#,1,9)
L593[12:07:15] <Vexatos> haven't done
yet
L594[12:07:16] <Vexatos> sorry D:
L595[12:07:40] <Shuudoushi> payonel has
abandoned me T.T
L596[12:07:42] <Shuudoushi> lol
L597[12:09:52] <payonel> Shuudoushi: i had
to go afk for a bit
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L599[12:10:45] <Shuudoushi> lol, I figured
as much :P
L600[12:10:52] <payonel> Shuudoushi: yes,
that should work. using quotes is safer in case you had delimiters
in the value
L601[12:10:55] <payonel> which in that
case you don't
L602[12:13:26] ⇦
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L603[12:13:34] <Shuudoushi> I still need
to make up my mind on weather or no I want to fully rewrite my
update script...
L604[12:16:38] <payonel> you can also use
~/.shrc
L605[12:17:05] <payonel> and note that
lines in /etc/profile ~/.shrc are just run as commands
L606[12:17:18] <payonel> you could also
execute a script by name
L607[12:18:28] <Shuudoushi> sweet
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L610[12:20:06] <tiddles> Sangar: ooh,
thanks for the linky
L611[12:22:40] <tiddles> Vexatos: I am
officially hyped for computronics :3
L612[12:23:25] <asie> 2hyped
L613[12:23:25] <Vexatos> who is
tiddles
L614[12:23:27] <Vexatos> ._.
L615[12:23:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, who is
this stranger
L616[12:23:36] <Vexatos> help
L617[12:24:11] <tiddles> Vexatos: I have a
better question - do computronics for 1.8.9 require asielib, and if
they do, where's a 1.8.9 version
L618[12:24:34] <Vexatos> no
L619[12:24:40] <Vexatos> since 1.8 it's in
the same jar file
L620[12:24:53] <tiddles> excellent
L621[12:25:01] <gamax92> are Vexatos and
asie still friends? D:
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L623[12:25:11] <Vexatos> who's asie?
L625[12:25:13] <asie> no*
L626[12:25:15] <asie> i'm not sure
L627[12:25:19] <asie> also who's
Vexatos?
L628[12:25:24] <Inari> asie: do you like
tea?
L629[12:25:25] <Vexatos> way too many
strangers.
L630[12:25:28] <asie> Inari: yes!
L631[12:25:34] <Inari> Vexatos: do you
like tea?
L632[12:25:34] <tiddles> asie: you are
number six.
L633[12:25:43] <Vexatos> Inari, only spice
and fruit ;_;
L634[12:25:46] <Vexatos> I'm sorry.
L635[12:25:48] <Inari> no they cant be
friends
L636[12:25:52] <gamax92> XD
L637[12:26:01] <Vexatos> Like, I like
every tea but sweet and actual tea
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L639[12:26:07] <Inari> Vexatos: not even
matcha latte?
L640[12:26:11] <Vexatos> too sweet
L641[12:26:12] <Vexatos> fennel tea
masterrace
L642[12:26:23] <Vexatos> gamax92, why are
you asking
L643[12:26:31] <Vexatos> tiddles, who are
you and how is snagar related D:
L644[12:26:37] <gamax92> Because Charset
and Computronics don't like eachother
L645[12:26:49] <Vexatos> D:
L646[12:26:55] <Vexatos> only the iron
note block recipe!
L647[12:27:04] <asie> but
L648[12:27:05] <Vexatos> and there is no
fix for that :<
L649[12:27:08] <asie> yeah
L650[12:27:13] <asie> add an alternate
recipe
L651[12:27:20] <Vexatos> I'd like to
L652[12:27:24] <tiddles> Vexatos: I'm just
this guy, you know.
L653[12:27:27] <asie> and i even oredicted
mine
L654[12:27:29] <asie> anyhow
L655[12:27:31] <asie> afk
L656[12:27:45] <Vexatos> asie, you did but
I need my very block in particular for CC to work >_>
L657[12:27:55] <Vexatos> the musical
turtle upgrade, that is
L658[12:28:15] <Vexatos> (ping not
intended but after realizing kinda intended)
L659[12:28:22] <gamax92> Turtle's used to
it
L660[12:28:34] <Turtle> :p
L661[12:28:56] <Vexatos> gamax92, just
talk about ping :P
L662[12:29:03] <Vexatos> or v^ ;^)
L663[12:29:03] <gamax92> okay
L664[12:29:10] <gamax92> ^v: you fuck
scrub
L665[12:29:24] <gamax92> I forget
which
L666[12:29:46] <tiddles> Vexatos: (just
kidding, actually I am a spy from the future)
L667[12:29:58] <Vexatos> ok
L668[12:30:05] <Vexatos> but why are you
interested about computronics then?
L669[12:30:13] <Vexatos> Which role in
destroying the universe does it fulfil
L670[12:30:25] <Vexatos> and why are the
space probes you are operating still running Java
L671[12:30:33] <Vexatos> COBOL I
understand, but Java?
L672[12:30:35] <Vexatos> ._.
L673[12:31:06] <tiddles> because I loved
it back when, and I'm playing with 1.8.9 now, so a build for that
with new stuff is lovely?
L674[12:31:38] <Vexatos> I certainly hope
you are using OC 1.6
L675[12:31:38] <tiddles> and not really,
our space probes are running haskell on bare metal, we just
simulate the JVM to play minecraft
L676[12:31:45] <Vexatos> and you do need
the very latest dev build of it
L677[12:32:07] <tiddles> the one from
curse? 1.6.0.4-rc1?
L678[12:32:11] <Vexatos> no
L679[12:32:13] <Vexatos> the very
latest
L680[12:32:21] <Vexatos> who even cares
about curse
L681[12:32:26] <Vexatos> it's what it says
on the tin
L682[12:32:33] <Vexatos> use jenkins like
any OC fanboy >_>
L683[12:32:41] <Skye> tiddles, use Lua for
your space probes! :P or use erlang for your space probes! :P
L684[12:32:57] <Vexatos> tiddles,
L686[12:33:04] <Vexatos> this one
L687[12:33:20] <tiddles> Vexatos: ahh,
thanks, although I was alrady rummaging through jenkins
L688[12:33:26] <tiddles> and also found
the updated TIS-3D :3
L689[12:34:05] <tiddles> Skye: SPACE MEN
FROM THE FUTURE REFUSE TO USE 1-BASED INDEXING APIs IN THEIR SPACE
PROBES, PERIOD
L690[12:34:11] <tiddles> Skye: erlang,
though, sure
L691[12:34:55] <Skye> tiddles, can we send
Sangar into the future to use Lua and Scala everywhere? :3
L692[12:35:04] <payonel> 1-based indexing
is like the only thing i dont like about LUA
L693[12:35:04] <EnderBot2> Lua*
L694[12:35:09] <payonel> :)
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L696[12:35:15] <Elizabeth> woo, got new
bank card
L697[12:35:27] <tiddles> Vexatos: I don't
really care about curse, but it is handy for a quick "click to
download to check out / include a mod" workflow
L698[12:35:28] *
payonel hopes someone realizes the uppercase was intentional for
EnderBot2 to ping
L699[12:36:02] <Skye> meanwhile I don't
know where my bank card is
L700[12:36:19] <tiddles> Skye: we can
simluate a perfect JVM for him, as long as he promises not to run
actual java on it
L701[12:36:22] <tiddles> so... I
guess?
L702[12:36:23] <tiddles> xD
L703[12:36:42] <Skye> what if he runs
OpenJDK on bare metal
L704[12:36:44] <tiddles> s/run on/compile
for
L705[12:37:51] <tiddles> in the future,
bare metal is mostly a haskell machine, sorry. we also have lisp
machines and mill cpus. :P
L706[12:38:22] <Skye> what if Sangar makes
a Lua CPU
L707[12:38:47] <Stary2001> come to think
of it, that could be possible
L708[12:38:53] <Skye> or a Java CPU
L709[12:38:58] <tiddles> the he's a sick
and twisted man, but sure, why not
L710[12:39:21] <Skye> tiddles, do you have
64bit 68k based CPUs
L711[12:39:58] <tiddles> Skye: something
close to java cpus actually existed for a while, both for mobile
markets and as a high-performance ASIC cpu for near-real-time JVM
implementations
L712[12:40:20] <tiddles> well, the second
thing was more about them implementing memory transations in
hardware and modifying the jvm code to use that
L713[12:40:31] <tiddles> but eh, close
enough-ish
L714[12:40:44] <tiddles> both are mostly
dead at this point, I think
L715[12:40:49] <Skye> tiddles, I have seen
a "Java CPU"
L716[12:41:05] <Skye> sold as an all in
one mobile processor
L717[12:41:22] <tiddles> (the second thing
moved to a hyperoptimized JVM implementation running on stock
hardware, not sure what became of the first actually)
L718[12:41:23] <tiddles> yes
L719[12:41:30] <Vexatos> tiddles, you're
free to find some sane default for the sound card queue size and
max delay ._.
L720[12:41:42] <Vexatos> Oooor you could
just play minecraft, whichever works
L721[12:41:59] <tiddles> Skye: we don't
have 64-bit 68ks, and that is the only thing I hate about the
future ;_:
L722[12:42:05] *
Forecaster starts editing tomorrows gungeon episode
L724[12:42:23] <Vexatos> Forecaster,
yaaaaaaay
L725[12:42:24] <Vexatos> moar
L726[12:42:26] <Vexatos> gungeon
L727[12:42:26] <Vexatos> moar
L728[12:42:27] <Vexatos> gungeon
L729[12:42:30] <Vexatos>
moaaaaaaaaaar
L730[12:42:35] <Vexatos> gib gungeon
eps
L731[12:42:44] <Forecaster> *spoiler* I
die
L732[12:42:51] <Vexatos> ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
L733[12:42:58] <Vexatos> ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ gib ༼
つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
L734[12:42:58] <tiddles> (funny thing,
over the weekend I was playing around programming my TI-89, which
is a custom 68k, but it only implements a bare 68000, so no virtual
memory ;_;)
L735[12:43:34] <tiddles> Skye: SWEEEEET
:3333333
L736[12:44:04] <Skye> it hasn't got an MMU
or FPU
L737[12:44:09] <Skye> as it's only
designed for Amigas
L738[12:44:47] <tiddles> didn't 68060 have
an integrated MMU?
L739[12:44:58] <tiddles> or am I thinking
of a different model?
L740[12:44:59] <Skye> they don't implement
the MMU part
L741[12:45:06] <tiddles> awwww
L742[12:45:07] <Skye> and there were
models without the MMU and FPU
L743[12:45:19] <Vexatos> Skye, you finally
got something to work on?
L744[12:45:22] <Vexatos> :D
L745[12:45:36] <Skye> wut
L747[12:46:45] <Forecaster> gasp,
apparently the victorias secret catalog isn't going to be printed
anymore
L748[12:47:09] <tiddles> it was too secret
and nobody bought it?
L749[12:47:41] <Forecaster> seems they
found it didn't really impact sales anymore
L750[12:48:09] <CompanionCube> and teenage
boys the world over weeped..not
L751[12:48:31] <Forecaster> here, have
some star wars instead
L753[12:48:34] <MichiBot>
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L754[12:52:55] ***
MGR is now known as MajGenRelativity
L755[12:53:14] <MajGenRelativity> hey
guys, I dunno if anybody could help with this, but I keep getting
some weird console spam on my server
L757[12:53:29] <MajGenRelativity> It
starts at line 13
L758[12:53:46] <MajGenRelativity> It will
spam that for about 30 times, wait a couple minutes, and then do it
again
L759[12:53:57] <MajGenRelativity> Because
it never says what the entity actually is, idk how to track it
down
L760[12:54:29] <Forecaster> does it only
happen when a certain area is loaded?
L761[12:54:50] <Forecaster> if so, clear
all entities in that area
L762[12:55:00] ⇦
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L763[12:55:58] <Forecaster> I love how the
only CGI in that video is the lasers and explosions
L764[12:56:27] <Xal> tiddles: bow down to
the superior HP calculator master race
L765[12:56:36] <MajGenRelativity>
Forecaster, I have a chunkloaded area, so it starts with server
boot up
L766[12:56:45] <MajGenRelativity> should I
do /cofh killall?
L767[12:56:51] <Forecaster> try it
L768[12:57:52] <MajGenRelativity> ok, will
do
L769[12:58:00] ⇦
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L770[12:58:11] <MajGenRelativity> just
gotta see what I have for animals
L771[12:58:19] <MajGenRelativity> and
safari net a few of my special ones
L772[12:58:40] *
CompanionCube would not mind a modern machine that was explicitly
designed and optimised for a language as long as the environment
was up to the task.
L773[12:59:42] <CompanionCube> Something
from the architectural vein of the lisp machines, but modernised
and likely not-lisp
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L775[13:00:57] <tiddles> Xal: Never! TI
for life. :3
L776[13:01:10] <Xal> RPN master
race!
L777[13:01:24] <Xal> ti-basic < reverse
polish lisp!
L778[13:01:32] <tiddles> Xal: I mean, I
just like having a calculator that has a reprogrammable USB
controller and a custom-made 68k inside.
L779[13:01:38] *
CompanionCube has never used either TI or HP
L780[13:01:57] <tiddles> Xal: and if I
wanted to do RPN, I can, you know, just write it. ;P
L781[13:02:05] <Xal> I like having a
calculator that's 1/3 of the price and has a reprogrammable USB
controller, IR interface, and ARM core inside
L782[13:02:58] <Xal> tiddles: it's not
just about being able to do arm calculations, it's the fact that
all your interaction with the calculator is done through the
stack
L783[13:02:59] <tiddles> Xal: more like
your mom is 1/3 of the price (I do hope it's clear I'm not at all
serious about calculator racism xD)
L785[13:03:20] <Xal> instead of the
calculator being divided into apps, everything's an object on the
stack:
L786[13:03:23] <MajGenRelativity> there's
like a competition between calculators?!
L788[13:03:33] <Xal> students use ti
L789[13:03:34] <tiddles> MajGenRelativity:
oh you have no idea
L790[13:03:37] ***
Ajloveslily|Sleep is now known as Ajloveslily
L791[13:03:42] <Xal> people who have jobs
use hp :P
L792[13:03:51] <MajGenRelativity>
ok........
L793[13:03:53] <Skye> people with brains
use a computer
L794[13:04:03] <Xal> don't even say
matlab
L795[13:04:05] <CompanionCube> Skye, so,
Mathematica?
L796[13:04:16] <Skye> CompanionCube,
whatever they can use
L797[13:04:19] <tiddles> Skye: honestly
there's not much difference between a beefy calculator and an
actual computer nowadays ;)
L798[13:04:27] <Xal> except the TIs
L799[13:04:33] <Forecaster> yeah, so why
buy a calculator? :P
L800[13:04:37] <Xal> because they still
use archaic chips
L801[13:04:42] <CompanionCube>
Mathematica/WolframLanguage is what powers wolframalpha
L802[13:04:51] <Xal> Forecaster: ease of
use, made to do a specific task and do it well
L803[13:05:09] <tiddles> Xal: anyway, in
actuality, you were somewhat close to being right on the money, I
*am* using an HP now, and I was playing with the TI just because I
found it in a drawer from back when I was a student, yes. xD
L804[13:05:12] <Xal> the HP50g symbolic
integrator does a better job than mathemtica of wolframalpha
L805[13:05:31] <tiddles> but hey, *nobody*
is going to force me into one or the other, hence my reaction
xD
L806[13:05:37] <Xal> my brain is so
hardwired for rpn I can't use anything else
L807[13:05:49] <Xal> how do you STAND
ti-basic?!
L808[13:06:02] <tiddles> I... wasn't using
ti-basic
L809[13:06:03] <tiddles> like
L810[13:06:04] <Xal> rpl is like a perfect
mix of forth and lisp
L811[13:06:10] <Xal> 68k asm?
L812[13:06:23] <Skye> who wants to do 8086
asm
L813[13:06:28] <SixDev> how stable is the
1.9.4 version+
L814[13:06:31] <SixDev> ?*
L815[13:06:41] <Xal> nobody, because x86
makes any sane person want to drive nails into their skull
L816[13:06:47] <tiddles> me playing around
with it was more about "hey let's see what I can get the
bootloader to do, also oh, let's see if I can get it to present as
a usb drive"
L817[13:06:48] <Vexatos> SixDev, it
launched last time I tried
L818[13:06:53] <SixDev> lol
L819[13:06:58] <CompanionCube> x86: where
a *single instruction* of the entire set is turing complete
L820[13:07:05] <Skye> I have an 80286
programmer's reference manual
L821[13:07:10] <tiddles> Xal: I do
completely agree ti-basic is... well, student-quality, xD
L822[13:07:16] <SixDev> hi skye!
L823[13:07:24] *
Skye flips SixDev
L824[13:07:28] <Xal> all modern x86
processors are really just RISC cores emulating a CISC instruction
set through microcode
L825[13:07:35] <Xal> it makes no logical
sense how they're designed now
L826[13:07:43] <tiddles> Xal: which is
really turbo-sad
L827[13:07:44] <Skye> backwards
compat
L828[13:08:20] <Xal> we need to kill x86
eventually
L830[13:08:25] <Xal> start anew
L831[13:08:44] <Skye> we need to make
everything self compileable
L832[13:08:44] <CompanionCube> yeah, but
imho x86 is one of the more-open platforms in computingland
L833[13:09:01] <tiddles> Xal: itanium was,
well, a horrible approach to killing x86, I mean, these chips
actually have a goddamn x86 mode inside. and you can switch into it
from *user* mode.
L834[13:09:39] <Skye> we need to make
everything user compileable, so we aren't stuck to a single
arch
L835[13:09:59] <Xal> we need free as in
freedom (tm)
L836[13:10:11] <Xal> also Skye that's a
hell of a lot easier said than done
L837[13:10:25] <Skye> also
L838[13:10:28] <CompanionCube>
bootstrapping is Hard(tm)
L839[13:10:39] <Skye> the best way to kill
x86 is to make the alternatives cheaper
L840[13:10:41] <CompanionCube> see also:
Reflections on trusting trust
L841[13:10:45] <Skye> ARM is slowly
managing it
L842[13:10:52] <tiddles> it's sad how most
exposed pipeline approaches fail, because nobody has time to sit
down and write a diamond-quality compiler ;_;
L843[13:11:13] <Skye> I want a POWER8
based PC
L844[13:11:15] <Skye> but the cost
L845[13:11:17] <Skye> oh my
L846[13:11:19] <Xal> if you sit down to
write a diamond-quality compiler
L847[13:11:20] <tiddles> I still have hope
that Mills will take off. don't get me wrong, I don't *believe*
they will, but I do hope xD
L848[13:11:24] <Skye> €€€€
L849[13:11:27] <Xal> you won't stand up
for several years
L850[13:11:42] <SixDev> ££££
L851[13:11:46] <SixDev> :P
L852[13:11:49] <tiddles> Xal: yes, hence -
local x86 clusterfuck of a local maximum
L854[13:12:18] <CompanionCube> RISC-V
anyone?
L855[13:12:29] <Xal> mips
L856[13:13:19] <Forecaster> Vertical Risk
with a C?
L857[13:14:41] <CompanionCube> ?
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L859[13:15:14] <Forecaster> RISC-V
L860[13:15:15] <Forecaster> :P
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L864[13:22:30] <tiddles> Vexatos: ...new
computronics even has tis-3d stuff? awesome! :333
L865[13:23:33] <Vexatos> :>
L866[13:23:41] <Vexatos> and all
documented in the two manualy
L867[13:23:43] <Vexatos> manuals*
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seconds)
L869[13:25:11] <tiddles> yeah, I just
noticed that TIS stuff had been auto-appended to the manual, which
is an awesome touch :3
L870[13:27:22] <MajGenRelativity>
Forecaster, your solution seems to have worked
L871[13:27:37] <MajGenRelativity> the
/cofh killall command has so far prevented instances of console
spam
L872[13:27:55] <MajGenRelativity> letting
it run for another 10 minutes then we'll know for sure
L873[13:28:09] <Forecaster> \o/
L874[13:28:22] <Forecaster> probably a
corrupt entity somewhere or something
L875[13:28:59] <MajGenRelativity> quite
likely
L876[13:29:30] <MajGenRelativity> I do
also have a small radiation leak from my ReactorCraft reactor
facility
L877[13:29:37] <MajGenRelativity> that's
not dangerous, right?
L878[13:30:03] <Forecaster> I wouldn't
know
L879[13:30:11] <Forecaster> I don't use
any of those mods
L880[13:30:34] <MajGenRelativity> A. It
was humor
L881[13:30:45] <Forecaster> :O
L882[13:30:48] <MajGenRelativity> B.
Radiation leaks are always bad, including in real life and games
XD
L883[13:30:54] <Forecaster> I know
:P
L884[13:31:01] <Forecaster> well no, not
always in games
L885[13:31:03] <MajGenRelativity> I do
have an actual radiation leak though
L886[13:31:21] <MajGenRelativity> usually
if a game simulates radiation, it is damaging to entities
L887[13:31:34] <Forecaster> usually is not
always :P
L888[13:31:34] <MajGenRelativity> not
every game simulates radiation with nuclear reactions though
L889[13:31:44] <MajGenRelativity> well,
fine
L890[13:33:47] <tiddles> Vexatos: I
already blew up my test setup, love it how auto-destruct has no way
to be disabled except for resetting the whole system
L891[13:35:17] <Vexatos> ikr
L892[13:35:24] <Vexatos> pushing new
values can only reduce the timer
L893[13:35:28] <Vexatos> never increase
it
L894[13:35:42] <Vexatos> Also did you
notice how it pulses faster when counting down?
L895[13:36:00] <Vexatos> there is a lot of
detail in Computronics, stuff you don't pay attention to normally
:>
L896[13:36:21] <tiddles> I did! I have to
say, I absolutely love the attention to detail here :3
L897[13:37:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, the
number of people using Computronics' TIS-3D integration has
increased unmeasurably
L898[13:37:18] <Vexatos> literally
L899[13:37:30] <Sangar> hahaha
L900[13:37:31] <Vexatos> As there is no
multiplier converting from the previous value to the current.
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L902[13:37:41] <Vexatos> none that I know
of, at least
L903[13:37:49] <Sangar> well, you could
still measure it as an absolute value, if i may nitpick
L904[13:37:54] <Sangar> :P
L905[13:38:02] <Vexatos> but I couldn't
measure the change
L906[13:38:13] <Vexatos> d/dt doesn't work
:X
L907[13:38:22] <Sangar> the change is +1
:P
L908[13:39:22] <Vexatos> do you even
maths, snag
L909[13:39:30] <tiddles> Vexatos: and I
also noticed how the countdown timer has a bigger rendering range
than stock execution module
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L911[13:40:47] <Vexatos> :>
L912[13:40:53] <Vexatos> beep beep beep
boom
L913[13:41:08] <Vexatos> have you also
seen that Computronics adds SD cards and SSDs for all your
needs?
L914[13:41:22] <Vexatos> because OC is
boring without
L915[13:41:23] <Vexatos> :>
L916[13:42:08] <tiddles> I probably will,
but I'm trying to do TIS-to-tape at the moment xD
L917[13:42:15] <Sangar> place one in an
mcu measuring energy throughput to make ic2's enet blow up again!
:P
L918[13:44:04] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos,
SSD?
L919[13:44:08] <Vexatos> MajGenRelativity,
yes
L920[13:44:17] <Vexatos> Way too many
people asked for SSDs in OC
L921[13:44:19] <Vexatos> same with SD
cards
L922[13:44:20] <tiddles> Vexatos: although
I did some testing and I'm not sure if the "pulsing
faster" thing was a placebo or not
L923[13:44:22] <Vexatos> so I added
them.
L924[13:44:42] <MajGenRelativity> SSD =
Solid State Drive?
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L927[13:44:56] <MajGenRelativity> because
I don't see something of the sort in my NEI
L928[13:44:57] <Forecaster> no :P
L929[13:45:00] <Techokami> SSD = Server
Self Destruct :)
L930[13:45:03] <MajGenRelativity> I see
the Self-Destruct Cards
L931[13:45:06] <tiddles> Vexatos: aaaah, I
see what you meant now
L932[13:45:16] <Forecaster> SD card
:P
L933[13:45:28] <Vexatos> tiddles, should
be 5 times as fast when ticking
L935[13:45:30] <tiddles> Vexatos: I didn't
realise it pulses even when not counting, I thought you meant it
pulses steadily faster as the count goes down
L936[13:45:39] <Vexatos> nono
L937[13:45:47] <Vexatos> when countdown
goes, it just has 5x the speed
L938[13:45:55] <Vexatos> compared to
idling
L939[13:45:59] <tiddles> yeah, that's
definitely not a placebo xD
L940[13:46:14] <Vexatos> you like the
little countdown? :>
L941[13:46:38] <Vexatos> Yay someone uses
things in Computronics noone else uses \:D/
L942[13:46:46] <Vexatos> Almost like
Forecaster and Elizabeth :D
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L944[13:47:19] <Vexatos> I added so many
extremely-niche things to Computronics that noone would really use
them so it's always nice to see others enjoy them :)
L945[13:47:26] <tiddles> I *love* the
little count-down.
L946[13:47:29] <MajGenRelativity> I would
use a Self-Destruct card
L947[13:47:35] <Vexatos> but SD cards are
boring
L948[13:47:39] <Vexatos> they just blow up
your case
L949[13:47:42] <Vexatos> the SSDs are
waaay cooler
L950[13:47:48] <Vexatos> read the manual
entry on what they do
L951[13:47:52] <tiddles> And it could also
be semi-actually-useful as a reverse cycle counter I guess xD
L952[13:47:53] <MajGenRelativity> where
are these SSDs?
L953[13:47:57] <MajGenRelativity> I don't
see them in NEI
L954[13:47:59] <Vexatos> Not in your
version of the mod
L955[13:48:02] <tiddles> as in, aside for
auto-destructing
L956[13:48:11] <MajGenRelativity> oh
:(
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L958[13:48:28] <Vexatos> tiddles, so like,
at 10 it shuts down the system? :>
L959[13:48:38] <Vexatos> a dangerous
counter
L960[13:48:42] <Vexatos> I love it
L961[13:48:53] <Vexatos> It counts down by
1 each tick.
L962[13:49:02] <Vexatos> so if you apply
more redstone to your controller
L963[13:49:04] <Vexatos> it ticks
faster
L964[13:49:11] <tiddles> yes, but
see
L965[13:49:15] <Vexatos> the max of rs
signal 15 on 5 sides it's superquick
L966[13:49:28] <tiddles> it can be used as
a method of timesharing by intimidation
L967[13:49:28] <Vexatos> and a signal of 2
on 1 side is very slow
L968[13:49:29] <tiddles> as in
L969[13:49:47] <tiddles> YOU ONLY GET ONE
HUNDRED CYCLES
L970[13:49:49] <tiddles> USE THEM
WELL
L971[13:49:55] <MajGenRelativity>
lol
L972[13:49:56] <Vexatos> You can probably
make it tick exactly once a second, and go "you have twenty
seconds left or else boom"
L973[13:50:16] <Vexatos> tiddles, so Keep
Talking and Nobody Explodes? ;)
L974[13:50:17] <MajGenRelativity> people
always come up with way better ideas than me
L975[13:50:51] <Forecaster> Keep Ticking
And Everybody Explodes
L976[13:51:00] <Trangar> Have you
considered finding a lovely significant other and starting a family
with that person?
L977[13:51:11] <tiddles> Vexatos: kind of,
it's more like "hey make sure you debugged your code, 'cause
when you press run, it either works within N cycles, or you don't
get a second chance"
L978[13:51:19] <Vexatos> :>
L979[13:51:24] <tiddles> as in, it could
conceivably actually be a part of a programming puzzle map xD
L980[13:51:33] <Vexatos> oh hell yes
L981[13:51:34] <Vexatos> Sangar,
this
L982[13:51:35] <Vexatos> err
L983[13:51:37] <Vexatos> 'tis
L984[13:52:03] <Trangar> tits?
L985[13:52:04] <Sangar> welp, go come up
with some modules :P
L986[13:52:17] <asie> Charset
modules?
L987[13:52:17] <Sangar> tats?
L989[13:52:20] <tiddles> Vexatos: I bet
you didn't think it was so versatile xD
L990[13:52:21] <asie> :^)
L991[13:52:24] <Trangar> tots?
L992[13:52:27] <Sangar> bomb modules, but
eh :P
L993[13:53:35] <tiddles> as it is, the
8-blocks-per-controller could be somewhat limiting to stage a
*huge* explosion, but hey, we have cables and infra red
L994[13:53:43] <tiddles> it sounds like
more fun by the minnute xD
L995[13:54:02] <tiddles> huge as in -
actual whole-base self-destruct
L996[13:54:27] <Vexatos> well, redstone
card in server
L997[13:54:31] <Vexatos> connect to
SSD
L998[13:54:35] <Vexatos> have array of
server racks
L999[13:54:37] <Vexatos> there you
go
L1000[13:54:51] <MajGenRelativity>
tiddles, if you want a base self-destruct, use a redmatter
explosive from DefenseTech
L1001[13:54:58] <Vexatos>
MajGenRelativity, boring.
L1002[13:55:00] <MajGenRelativity> also
has a solid chance of sucking in the attackers too
L1003[13:55:04] <Vexatos>
MajGenRelativity, boring.
L1004[13:55:08] <tiddles>
MajGenRelativity: no no no no no, I want a *fun* base
self-destruct
L1005[13:55:09] <tiddles> :3
L1006[13:55:11] <MajGenRelativity> it
works
L1007[13:55:13] *
MajGenRelativity shrugs
L1008[13:55:14] <Vexatos> yea
L1009[13:55:18] <Vexatos> ComputerCraft
works too
L1010[13:55:19] <Vexatos> :>
L1011[13:55:23] <Vexatos> sometimes
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L1013[13:55:41] <MajGenRelativity> do you
mean cheaty computers?
L1015[13:56:26] <MajGenRelativity> wasn't
the one I was thinking of, but sure
L1016[13:56:36] <Vexatos> But
L1017[13:56:38] <Vexatos> it is a
mod
L1018[13:56:40] <tiddles> I don't know
who Cruor is, but I laughed
L1019[13:56:45] <Vexatos> that allows you
to craft fully assembled computers
L1020[13:56:48] <Vexatos> out of stone
and redstone
L1021[13:56:51] <Vexatos> isn't that what
you expected?
L1022[13:57:03] <Vexatos> IS IT
NOT?
L1023[13:57:09] <Vexatos> tiddles, cruor?
Who'd that? ._.
L1024[13:57:13] <MajGenRelativity>
stone+redstone=computers
L1025[13:57:13] <MajGenRelativity>
yep
L1026[13:57:17] <Vexatos> see?
L1027[13:57:22] <Vexatos> CheatyComputers
does that
L1028[13:57:27] <Cruor> Vexatos: i am the
creator and the destroyer
L1029[13:57:31] <Vexatos> Yup
L1030[13:57:35] <Vexatos> And I wrote CC
for you.
L1031[13:57:37] <Cruor> the corruptor and
the salvator
L1032[13:57:45] <MajGenRelativity> in
real life, I just throw some rocks at ice with red food coloring
and get a computer out of that too
L1033[13:57:47] <Vexatos> the potato and
the derp
L1034[13:57:48] <Cruor> the beggining and
the end
L1035[13:57:55] <MajGenRelativity> It
turns a good profit
L1036[13:58:03] <Cruor> :I the butcherer
of words, and the acolyte of derp
L1037[13:58:39] <Cruor> s/acolyte/high
priestess/
L1038[13:58:39] <MichiBot> <Cruor>
:I the butcherer of words, and the high priestess of derp
L1039[13:58:43] <Vexatos> the
procrastinator of shurtle
L1040[13:58:44] *
MajGenRelativity hands Cruor a dictionary
L1041[14:00:47] <tiddles> Vexatos: do the
2 and 6 minute tapes have no recipe by design, or by derp? xD
L1042[14:01:10] <Vexatos> by you not
having copper and steel
L1043[14:01:24] <tiddles> aaaah, yeah,
makes sense
L1044[14:01:41] <tiddles> (it's a tiny
testing fuck around modpack xD)
L1045[14:02:02] <MajGenRelativity>
tiddles, I could hit you up with a decent modpack link
L1046[14:02:10] <MajGenRelativity>
slightly out of date, but it works well enough
L1047[14:02:22] <Vexatos> MGR, stop
advertising your damn pack >_>
L1048[14:02:34] <MajGenRelativity>
XD
L1049[14:02:41] <Vexatos> only Cruor may
do that
L1050[14:02:56] <tiddles>
MajGenRelativity: let me guess, 1.7 tech-centric? xD
L1051[14:02:58] <MajGenRelativity> but I
like shameless self-advertising plugs
L1052[14:03:08] <MajGenRelativity>
tiddles, It has a bit of tech and magic
L1053[14:03:14] <MajGenRelativity> lot of
tech though
L1054[14:03:18] *
Forecaster totally doesn't have a pack and none of you can have
it!
L1055[14:03:22] <Elizabeth> take it to
your own channel, MajGenRelativity
L1056[14:03:32] <MajGenRelativity> fair
enough
L1057[14:03:38] <tiddles> Vexatos:
anyway, the tape *reading* module should probably be called
something else
L1058[14:03:49] <tiddles> since it's more
of a tape drive interaction module
L1059[14:05:05] <tiddles> Vexatos: aaaand
I just have to ask - does it change it's "no tape drive"
graphic just for shits and giggles, even though it can't be seen?
xD
L1060[14:10:21] <Vexatos> Yes and
no
L1061[14:10:28] <Vexatos> since 1.8.9
there's JSON madness
L1062[14:10:41] <Vexatos> so a mad
resource pack maker could be able to change the model
L1063[14:11:00] <Vexatos> mostly yes,
though
L1064[14:11:25] <tiddles> that answers
the "can it be seen" part, not the "does it
change" part xD
L1065[14:11:26] <Vexatos> How did you
find out? DID YOU READ THE SOURCE CODE I TOLD YOU NOT TO READ AT
THE SOURCE CODE IT SPOILS ALL THE FUN
L1066[14:11:54] <Vexatos> ...or did you
guess ._.
L1067[14:11:56] <tiddles> I didn't, I...
assumed it did, because it would be cool and not useful but
cool
L1068[14:11:57] <tiddles> xD
L1069[14:12:01] <Vexatos> yes it turns
green with a tape drive next to it
L1070[14:12:06] <tiddles> hahahaha
L1071[14:12:08] <Vexatos> and the text
isn't there anymore
L1072[14:12:10] <tiddles> sweet
L1073[14:12:11] <Vexatos> #detail
L1074[14:12:40] <tiddles> okay so
L1075[14:12:52] <tiddles> if we're
talking details, besides the module name
L1076[14:12:54] <tiddles> so
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L1078[14:13:10] <tiddles> I named my tape
with an anvil, and when I put it in the drive it still says
"unnamed tape"
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L1080[14:13:25] <tiddles> and I can't
right clicky blocky with a tape-y to insert-y ;_;
L1081[14:13:27] <Vexatos> maybe because
you need to name it
L1082[14:13:30] <Vexatos> using setLabel
:P
L1083[14:13:35] <Vexatos> on a computer
._.
L1084[14:13:50] <tiddles> (I only noticed
the second thing because you set the standards too high xD)
L1085[14:14:04] <Vexatos> asie, should I?
^
L1086[14:14:06] <tiddles> ...fair enough,
I still haven't spawned an actual computer in this testworld
xD
L1087[14:14:19] <Vexatos> tiddles, /oc_sc
masterrace
L1088[14:14:29] <Vexatos> in later OC dev
builds, it even properly rotates the computer
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L1090[14:14:44] <william341> hi
everyone
L1091[14:14:45] <Vexatos> (guess who made
that happen :D)
L1092[14:14:54] <Forecaster> it was
me
L1093[14:14:54] <Vexatos> I had like,
uuh
L1094[14:14:58] <tiddles> Vexatos:
xD
L1095[14:14:59] <Forecaster> hi
william341
L1096[14:15:02] <Vexatos> three?
contributions to OC for 1.6?
L1097[14:15:05] <Vexatos> (Sangar
confirm?)
L1098[14:15:05] <tiddles> hello
william341
L1099[14:15:25] <william341> im chating
on OC :P
L1100[14:15:28] <Sangar> idk
>_>
L1101[14:15:32] <tiddles> Vexatos:
anyway, I vaguelly assimed it would work, since that's how flash
cards work, for example
L1102[14:15:32] <Sangar> yey
L1103[14:15:39] <william341> wocchat is a
very nice client
L1104[14:15:49] <tiddles> (about
right-click hand-insert)
L1105[14:15:57] <MajGenRelativity>
william341, you aren't XP01, right?
L1106[14:15:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, hover
boot dyeability, oc_sc rotation fix and... something else?
L1107[14:16:02] <tiddles> s/flash
cards/eeproms
L1108[14:16:03] <Sangar> praised be the
gamax92 for wocchat
L1109[14:16:03] <MichiBot>
<tiddles> Vexatos: anyway, I vaguelly assimed it would work,
since that's how eeproms work, for example
L1110[14:16:27] <Vexatos> ah right
L1112[14:16:30] <Vexatos> here we
go
L1113[14:16:31] <william341> yea its way
better then the IRC flp disk
L1114[14:16:37] <william341> MajGen no
i'm not
L1115[14:16:53] <Vexatos> "Made OC
not crash on startup" is my favourite
L1116[14:17:03] <MajGenRelativity>
excellent
L1117[14:17:08] <william341> sangar
L1118[14:17:16] <MajGenRelativity> XP01
is a pestilential menace XD
L1119[14:17:16] <Vexatos> It's always
nice not crashing on startup
L1120[14:17:20] <william341> can you
aprove my post?
L1121[14:17:25] <Sangar> not crashing is
a nice touch, yeah
L1122[14:17:30] *
MajGenRelativity crashes Vexatos on startup
L1124[14:17:45] <Vexatos> magical
memory
L1125[14:17:49] <Vexatos> "use at
your own risk"
L1126[14:17:50] <Vexatos> :>
L1127[14:17:51] <Sangar> post? forums?
i'd need to log in :X Elizabeth are you logged in :P (no i'm
totally not lazy)
L1128[14:18:02] <Elizabeth> ?
L1129[14:18:08] <william341> is there a
program that makes the screen 80x25 on boot up
L1130[14:18:10] <Sangar>
<william341> can you aprove my post?
L1131[14:18:17] *
Forecaster puts label on Sangar that says "May be
lazy"
L1132[14:18:24] <william341> this whole
crap ton of screen realistate is annoying
L1133[14:18:33] <Sangar> *may contain
excessive amounts of lazy
L1134[14:18:50] <tiddles> also
L1135[14:18:55] <tiddles> speaking of
little nice things
L1136[14:19:02] <Elizabeth> oh nice,
found a spam account in the unapproved posts
L1137[14:19:13] <Forecaster> always
fun
L1138[14:19:19] <william341> what is
it?
L1139[14:19:22] <Vexatos> Sangar, may
contain grog
L1140[14:19:23] <tiddles> Sangar: I
totally love it how in the TIS manual when you hover on a part
image, it has flavour text :3
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L1142[14:19:34] <Vexatos> tiddles, it was
stolen from the OC manual
L1143[14:19:35] <Vexatos> it has the
same
L1144[14:19:36] <Vexatos> ._.
L1145[14:19:37] <Elizabeth> something
about passports and drivers liscenses or something
L1146[14:19:39] <william341> grog is
actually really good
L1147[14:19:42] <william341> oh wow
L1148[14:19:53] <william341> it ups your
hunger fast
L1149[14:19:58] <tiddles> Vexatos: I...
wow, I never knew
L1150[14:19:59] <tiddles> :O
L1151[14:20:06] <william341> dtaste like
crap though
L1152[14:20:12] <Elizabeth> william341,
done
L1153[14:20:17] <william341>
thanks!
L1154[14:20:19] <Sangar> manual is pretty
much the same code, yeah :P
L1155[14:20:34] <Sangar> just ported from
scala to java and reskinned
L1156[14:20:39] <william341> is there a
program that changes your thing to 80x25 res on a teir 3
screen?
L1157[14:20:46] <Vexatos> tiddles, every
single image. Including Computronics ones
L1158[14:20:47] <tiddles> >ported from
scala to java
L1159[14:20:49] <Sangar> `resolution 80
25`
L1160[14:20:50] <tiddles> dear god
why
L1161[14:20:58] <william341> ok thanks
sangar
L1162[14:21:06] <william341> brb setting
my thing to 80 25
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L1164[14:21:11] <Vexatos> tiddles, I
ported a lot of carp between the two languages by now
L1165[14:21:14] <Sangar> because tis is
in java because i wanted to give java 8 a shot :P
L1166[14:21:15] <Vexatos> Sangar, one
word: PetRenderer
L1167[14:21:25] <Sangar> (and i actually
like j8 quite a bit)
L1168[14:21:30] <tiddles> Sangar: ah,
fair enough
L1169[14:22:27] <Sangar> defaults in
interfaces are *almost* as good as traits :P
L1170[14:22:40] <Vexatos> tiddles, go
read through the two manuals. I challenge you to find ALL the puns
and references
L1171[14:22:56] <Sangar> also the
achievements in oc :P
L1172[14:23:03] <Vexatos> Sangar,
constructor overloading though. 100% reason to prefer Java
L1173[14:23:08] <Sangar> even more
references
L1174[14:23:12] <Vexatos> Java is the
successor to scala, right?
L1175[14:23:18] <Sangar> Vexatos, idk, i
never really missed in scala
L1176[14:23:39] <Sangar> *missed it
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L1178[14:25:34] <tiddles> Vexatos:
challenge... denied, I *still* haven't played with the tape I
inserted into the drive like an hour ago
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L1181[14:25:57] <Vexatos> would you like
some of that? :>
L1182[14:26:50] <Sangar> would save me
one boolean in the nbt i guess :P
L1183[14:27:14] <CompanionCube> do you
prefer j8 to scala
L1184[14:27:58] <asie> yes
L1185[14:28:02] <Sangar> kinda yes, but
not really because of language features, there it's kinda even for
me now, but more because it doesn't take 10 years to compile
L1186[14:28:08] <Sangar> and tooling is a
bit better still
L1187[14:28:12] <Skye> what do people
think of Oracle vs Google
L1188[14:28:47] <Forecaster> whoever
wields the master sword winds
L1189[14:28:48] <Sangar> if i ever
rewrite oc (which i won't because time) i'd probably write it in
j8
L1190[14:28:50] <Forecaster> wins*
L1191[14:29:15] <asie> Sangar: but i will
be rewriting OC ;_;
L1192[14:29:17] <asie> eventually
L1193[14:29:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, compile
time? Say, which is your favourite phaser to wait for? :D
L1194[14:29:35] <CompanionCube> Charset:
Computation Module
L1195[14:29:40] <asie> yeah
L1196[14:30:07] <Sangar> asie, well then
:P
L1197[14:30:10] <CompanionCube> did/would
you already have any ideas/differences in mind
L1198[14:30:27] <Sangar> Vexatos, there's
too many to count :X
L1199[14:30:44] <payonel> Sangar: why
_would_ you rewrite oc? got a list of things you would have done
differently?
L1200[14:31:17] <Vexatos> payonel, the
"why" part is easy to answer
L1201[14:31:18] <Vexatos> :P
L1202[14:31:59] <Forecaster> woo, video
rendered and uploaded, now I can relax
L1203[14:32:01] <payonel> then why?
L1204[14:32:03] <Sangar> for the most
part the feeling that the code has gotten kind of... ugly with the
number of ports it's gone through
L1205[14:32:05] <Forecaster> or I could
if it wasn't so darn hot
L1206[14:32:36] <payonel> Forecaster: no
ac?
L1207[14:32:37] <Vexatos> Sangar,
NotEnoughPorts
L1208[14:32:48] <Sangar>
JustEnoughPorts
L1209[14:33:29] <CompanionCube> now
introducing ports made of the same material that makes USB sticks
go in the wrong way around
L1210[14:33:39] <tiddles> Sangar: for a
moment I thought you said you'd rewrite it in *js*, and I had been
horrified
L1211[14:33:47] <Sangar> hahahaha
L1212[14:33:49] <Sangar> well
L1213[14:33:54] <Sangar> there is scalajs
isn't there
L1214[14:34:13] <Vexatos> scalascript?
ss? no? ok.
L1215[14:34:21] <Sangar> no
>_>
L1216[14:38:24] <tiddles> Vexatos: okay,
so obvious question - how do I get a tape that already has some
proper audio data for testing?
L1217[14:39:52] <Vexatos> make
computer
L1218[14:39:59] <Vexatos> "tape
write <url>"
L1219[14:40:02] <Vexatos> "tape
play"
L1220[14:40:04] <Vexatos> :>
L1221[14:41:10] <Sangar> wasn't there a
program that took youtube urls even? (using a server for the
conversion iirc, but still)
L1222[14:41:21] <Sangar> seem to remember
that from last btm
L1223[14:41:26] <Forecaster> payonel:
no
L1224[14:42:35] <Vexatos> Sangar,
yes
L1225[14:42:39] <Forecaster> I've now
opened the other window, and put a fan in it to blow out air
though
L1226[14:42:41] <Forecaster> that should
help
L1227[14:42:46] <Forecaster> since it's
cool outside
L1228[14:42:49] <Vexatos> oppm install
ytdl
L1229[14:43:20] <Sangar> nice
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L1231[14:45:10] <tiddles> Vexatos:
mmmmm
L1232[14:45:46] <Forecaster> shame the
fan is so noisy though
L1233[14:45:54] *
Forecaster keeps complaining about things
L1234[14:46:01] <Vexatos> Sangar, I use a
bash script though ._.
L1235[14:46:05] *
gamax92 gives Forecaster some carrot cake
L1236[14:47:25] <tiddles> Vexatos:
so.
L1237[14:47:49] <tiddles> Vexatos: I used
one program to write 012345678... to the tape (with TIS), and
another to read it.
L1238[14:48:10] <Vexatos> cool? ._.
L1239[14:48:26] <Vexatos> Sangar, you
totally need 32MB data storage in TIS-3D.
L1240[14:48:30] <gamax92> Copyright:
Copyright � 2000 by NoteWorthy ArtWare, Inc.
L1241[14:48:31] <gamax92> Copyright: All
Rights Reserved
L1242[14:48:31] <gamax92> Text: Generated
by NoteWorthy Composer
L1243[14:48:40] <tiddles> Vexatos: aaaand
what I read back is 0-4-8-12
L1244[14:48:51] <tiddles> Vexatos: why
:o
L1245[14:48:59] <Vexatos> how did you
write to it
L1246[14:49:06] <gamax92> why did you
write to it?
L1247[14:49:17] <Vexatos> did you write
to it
L1248[14:49:28] *
CompanionCube writes to it
L1249[14:49:31] <Forecaster> who did you
write to it?
L1250[14:49:34] <Sangar> did it write to
you?
L1251[14:50:03] <Vexatos> tiddles, did
you read the spec in the manual?
L1253[14:51:24] <tiddles> I seem to be
following the spec interface.
L1254[14:52:02] <tiddles> Vexatos: I'm
just watching the accumultor directly on TIS
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L1256[14:52:29] <william341> hi
L1257[14:52:44] <william341> is there a
way to have a command run on boot up?
L1258[14:52:59] <tiddles> Vexatos: once I
read far enough, I get all zeros
L1259[14:53:04] <tiddles> Vexatos: so...
I'm confus
L1260[14:53:20] <Vexatos> me too
L1261[14:53:50] <tiddles> I clearly did
write something, but I'm reading like every 4th value... or
something?
L1262[14:53:50] <Forecaster> now turn
those zeroes into heroes and you've got... a disney movie
L1263[14:54:09] <william341> hehe
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L1265[14:54:27] <william341> but is there
a way to have a command run on boot up?
L1266[14:54:35] <Forecaster> yes,
probably
L1267[14:54:50] <tiddles> Vexatos: is
there a handy utility to dump tape data if I spawn an actual
computer to do so? xD
L1268[14:54:53] <william341> sangar help
me :P
L1269[14:55:09] <Vexatos> tiddles, with
plan9k there is
L1270[14:55:11] <Vexatos> otherwise,
uuh
L1271[14:55:12] <Vexatos> write one
L1272[14:55:24] <Vexatos> just write to
stdout
L1273[14:55:29] <Vexatos> and then
yourprog > file
L1274[14:55:56] <william341> herp
L1275[14:55:57] <payonel> william341:
poke
L1276[14:56:05] <william341> hi
L1277[14:56:09] <payonel> im the openos
guy
L1278[14:56:13] <william341> i've been
poked
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L1280[14:56:29] <payonel> if you want to
run stuff at start up, add it either to /etc/profile or
~/.shrc
L1281[14:56:36] <payonel> preferrably,
~/.shrc
L1282[14:56:38] <william341> oh ok thank
you
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L1284[14:56:53] <Forecaster> my
"probably" was correct \o/
L1285[14:57:05] <payonel> Forecaster:
:)
L1286[14:57:29] <Forecaster> I also
wanted to suggest asking you but I drew a blank on your name now
when I needed it :I
L1287[14:57:36] <tiddles> Vexatos: heh, I
managed to crash the openos lua program xD
L1288[14:57:51] <Vexatos> crash?
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L1290[14:57:58] <tiddles> Vexatos: one
achieves this by typing "os.c", and pressing tab
twise
L1291[14:58:01] <tiddles> *wtice
L1292[14:58:05] <tiddles> *twice,
damnit
L1293[14:58:08] <Vexatos> payonel ^
L1294[14:58:08] <william341> thanks
payonel
L1295[14:58:13] <Forecaster> update
openos/oc
L1296[14:58:15] <tiddles> and lua inside
openos dies
L1297[14:58:22] <Forecaster> pretty sure
the tab-complete bugs were fixed
L1298[14:58:29] <william341> tab works
for me
L1299[14:58:41] <william341>
1.6-rc1
L1300[14:58:47] <william341> on 1.7.10 it
works fine
L1301[14:58:55] <payonel> um
L1302[14:59:01] <tiddles> Forecaster:
doesn't the dev build ship with a new openos?
L1303[14:59:08] <payonel> tiddles: yes it
does
L1304[14:59:10] <payonel> what
version?
L1305[14:59:12] <Forecaster> yes
L1306[14:59:33] <payonel> so, prompt>
os.c[tab][tab] ?
L1307[14:59:39] <Forecaster> you also
spawned in a new computer right?
L1308[15:00:05] <tiddles> Forecaster:
yes.
L1309[15:00:09] <william341> im
like
L1310[15:00:15] <william341> how is this
better then CC
L1311[15:00:22] <william341> *gets a 3d
printer*
L1312[15:00:22] <payonel> william341:
:(
L1313[15:00:28] <william341> OKYEP THIS
IS THE BEST MOD EVER
L1314[15:00:32] <william341> :P
L1315[15:00:34] <payonel> william341:
:)
L1316[15:00:37] <Forecaster> :P
L1317[15:00:39] <payonel> and, openos is
awesome!
L1318[15:00:43] <Forecaster> also
holograms
L1319[15:00:48] <william341> open os is
alt more like linux
L1320[15:00:50] <tiddles> payonel: I did
/oc_sc in minecraft, then booted the computer, then did >lua,
and in lua prompt
L1321[15:00:54] <william341> yea its way
more advance
L1322[15:00:55] <gamax92> OC is more
modding friendly than CC
L1323[15:00:57] <tiddles>
os.c[tab][tab]
L1324[15:01:02] <william341> but i gotta
go tho so bye
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L1326[15:01:20] <tiddles> payonel:
1.6.0.54-dev, the very freshest OC version there is xD
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L1328[15:01:56] <payonel> tiddles: oh,
lua prompt, ok. please make an issue and make sure to mention lua
prompt
L1329[15:02:27] <payonel> i'll review/fix
tonight (in about 6 hours)
L1330[15:02:49] <tiddles> payonel: all
right then
L1331[15:03:41] <payonel> tiddles: the
lua prompt has a few unique code paths (unfortunately?) than the
shell prompt. tab-complete has a small callback as well that is
specially handled by the lua prompt
L1332[15:04:23] <Vexatos> tiddles, oh
derop
L1333[15:04:33] <Vexatos> found it
L1334[15:05:19] <tiddles> Vexatos: too
big a seek? xD
L1335[15:05:25] <Vexatos> nope
L1336[15:05:33] <Vexatos> also I'm good
at naming things
L1337[15:05:33] <Vexatos> new
NeverWritingCommand("writeMultiple")
L1338[15:05:44] <tiddles>
xDDDDDDDDDDD
L1339[15:05:59] <tiddles> Vexatos: what
happened, then?
L1340[15:07:03] <Vexatos> it reads once
toe
L1341[15:07:10] <Vexatos> to every valid
face
L1342[15:07:55] <tiddles> ahhhhhhhh
L1343[15:08:09] <tiddles> so if I had
more modules around it, I would be seeing the other values?
L1344[15:08:48] <Vexatos> more than
that
L1345[15:08:58] <Vexatos> fixing...
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L1347[15:12:03] <tiddles> Vexatos: yeah I
just put a few dumb readers around it and got, uh, interesting
results
L1348[15:12:27] <Vexatos> I'll just have
it seek when it actually wrote a value to the pipe
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L1350[15:14:31] <tiddles> Vexatos:
incidentally, I'm assuming even though TIS operates on 16-bit
registers, tapes will be strictly 8-bit devices?
L1351[15:14:38] <Vexatos> yes
L1352[15:14:55] <tiddles> if so - what
happens when I try to write 0xFF02?
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L1354[15:15:07] <tiddles> the high part
gets ignored?
L1355[15:17:44] <payonel> #lua
serialize
L1356[15:17:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
function: 0x7f5638155450
L1357[15:17:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, what
happens if you read() from a pipe twice a step
L1358[15:17:51] <Vexatos> tiddles,
yes
L1359[15:18:19] <Sangar> if there's data
there it'll work, if there isn't it'll block
L1360[15:18:49] <Vexatos> ok
L1361[15:19:00] <Vexatos> so it is
consumed after one read?
L1362[15:19:20] <Sangar> yeah, should
be
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L1364[15:20:11] <Vexatos> hm
L1365[15:20:23] <Vexatos> might be able
to increase module speed then
L1366[15:20:40] <Vexatos> as right now it
is in idle mode and it receives a command, it goes into waiting
mode and then stops
L1367[15:20:47] <Vexatos> without
actually opening the channel for further reading
L1368[15:21:48] <Vexatos> tiddles, which
MC version
L1369[15:22:10] <Sangar> keep in mind
that to read something also needs to write again
L1370[15:22:39] <Sangar> so speeding up
by overclocking would probably be more realistic :P
L1371[15:23:41] <gamax92> #lua
serialize("4")
L1372[15:23:41] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
"4"
L1373[15:23:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, it just
wastes a step right now
L1374[15:23:57] <Sangar> ah well
then
L1375[15:25:17] *
Vexatos pokes tiddles with a stick
L1376[15:25:35] <tiddles> Vexatos: hmm,
so tape write url writes, uhh, what, binary data from url? url is
expected to be an mp3?
L1377[15:25:40] <tiddles> Vexatos:
hmm?
L1378[15:25:43] <Vexatos> a DFPWM
L1379[15:25:44] <Vexatos> duh
L1380[15:25:52] <Vexatos> How did you now
know that
L1381[15:25:55] <Vexatos> >_>
L1382[15:25:58] <tiddles> but
L1383[15:25:59] <tiddles> like
L1384[15:26:00] <Vexatos> <_>
L1385[15:26:09] <Vexatos> It says so in
the manual :D
L1386[15:26:21] <Vexatos> tiddles, which
minecraft version ._.
L1387[15:26:23] <tiddles> you told me
about the tape command right after I asked for sample DFPWM data
;_;
L1388[15:26:38] <Vexatos> the manual even
tells you how to create a sample
L1389[15:26:43] <tiddles> so I guess I
didn't ask clearly xD
L1390[15:26:44] <Vexatos> also WHICH
MINECRAFT VERSION
L1391[15:26:50] <tiddles> 1.8.9
here
L1393[15:26:57] <Vexatos> please test
kthx
L1394[15:27:03] <tiddles> sure
L1395[15:27:05] <tiddles> ksec
L1396[15:29:25] <tiddles> Vexatos: do I
need to re-write?
L1397[15:29:53] <Vexatos> no
L1398[15:31:09] <Vexatos> write was
working just fine
L1399[15:32:20] <tiddles> reading single
bytes works correctly now, yes :3
L1401[15:32:34] <Vexatos> tiddles, should
also have fixed readMultiple
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L1404[15:34:27] <tiddles> Vexatos: yeah,
I'm checking just to be sure :3
L1405[15:34:43] <tiddles> payonel: right,
one moment, I got suckered into bug-testing another thing xD
L1406[15:35:09] <payonel> yep, i'm just
distracting you from your distraction :)
L1407[15:35:32] <gamax92> payonel!
L1408[15:35:43] <payonel> gamax92: tab
complete cutting words, i know i know. soon
L1409[15:35:55] <gamax92> now.
L1410[15:36:23] *
payonel opens dimensional soor
L1411[15:36:26] <payonel> door*
L1412[15:36:28] <payonel> crap
L1413[15:36:51] <gamax92> you
tried.
L1414[15:37:14] <Forecaster> now you let
soorthulu out D:
L1415[15:38:38] <tiddles> Vexatos:
...nope, this hangs on second read, or am I reading the spec
wrong?
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L1419[15:43:36] <tiddles> Fresh for
you.
L1420[15:44:21] <tiddles> Vexatos: if I
reset the program without rewinding the tape, the first read does
advance the tape correctly
L1421[15:45:05] <payonel> yaya
L1422[15:45:21] <Vexatos> huh
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L1426[15:48:34] <Vexatos> it just...
blocks?
L1427[15:48:38] <Vexatos> on second
read?
L1428[15:48:42] <tiddles> yep.
L1429[15:48:56] <Vexatos> Sorry
L1430[15:48:59] <Vexatos> I need to go
now
L1431[15:49:00] <Vexatos> bye bye
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piece of CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE.
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L1437[15:59:58] <tiddles> gamax92: your
LionRay jar dropbox link has been "temporarily disabled"
;_;
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L1439[16:00:13] <gamax92> I'll move
it
L1440[16:01:08] <Forecaster> mm
cake
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L1443[16:04:54] <gamax92> erm,
L1444[16:05:00] <gamax92> tiddles: what's
linking to my dropbox?
L1447[16:05:54] <gamax92> Dammit
Vexatos
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L1452[16:28:08] <tiddles> damnit how do I
stop the particles after I typed /oc_nm to see what happens
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L1454[16:32:15] <Inari> nm?
L1455[16:32:21] <Inari> nude mode?
L1456[16:32:50] *
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L1457[16:33:01] *
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L1458[16:34:09] <tiddles> nanomachines,
apparently
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L1460[16:38:00] *
LuMistry noms on nanomachines
L1461[16:38:52] <Sandra> I have my
Software Design and Development test today.
L1462[16:39:12] <Sandra> what exactly is
in the test, I have no idea.
L1463[16:39:27] <Sandra> I can hardly
remember what the class entails.
L1464[16:39:38] <Sandra> I remember
arguing almost every lesson though.
L1465[16:39:42] <Sandra> so that's
fun.
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L1467[16:43:35] <v^> Sandra, "design
and development"
L1468[16:43:50] <v^> mfw design is
meaningless
L1469[16:45:34] <Sandra> ikr.
L1470[16:45:54] <Sandra> the syllabus is
like 10 years old.
L1471[16:46:14] <Sandra> it was last
updated in 2012 to add a mention of agile development.
L1472[16:47:18] <Sandra> just a small
mention, nothing really.
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L1474[16:53:38] <Temia> It's not
meaningless, just better discovered in the field. >.>
L1475[16:54:36] *
Inari discovers a Temia in the field
L1476[16:57:01] *
Temia moos. 'o'
L1477[16:57:19] <Sandra> it is my 2nd
least favourite subject at school (as it's verrrry bs.)
L1478[16:57:25] <Inari> this algorithm
feels terrible :s
L1479[16:57:55] <Inari> but i cant think
of much else
L1480[16:58:05] <Sandra> over the last
few weeks, we've been learning VISUAL BASIC.
L1481[16:58:10] <Sandra> of all
things.
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L1484[17:00:11] <Sandra> works I
suppose... but aren't chat messages JSON?
L1485[17:00:28] <Inari> not the ones im
sending :P
L1486[17:01:26] <Inari> doing irc back to
mc format codes is even more of a pain
L1487[17:01:27] <Inari> <.,
L1488[17:01:43] <Temia> Sandra: good
god.
L1489[17:01:50] <Temia> That class IS
terrible.
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L1491[17:04:20] <Sandra> mmm hmm.
L1492[17:04:28] <Sandra> my test is in
about 3 hours.
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L1494[17:09:38] *
CompanionCube recalls doing a unit named such last
year
L1495[17:10:56] <CompanionCube> Sandra,
could be worse
L1496[17:11:09] <CompanionCube> could
have a unit dedicated to project management
L1497[17:11:14] <CompanionCube> so. much.
bullshit.
L1498[17:11:18] <Sandra> oh ohhh
ohhhhhh.
L1499[17:11:31] <Sandra> we do.
L1500[17:11:42] <CompanionCube> do you
number your units
L1501[17:12:36] <Sandra> I don't think
so.
L1502[17:12:42] <CompanionCube> ah
L1503[17:12:48] <Sandra> when you're
talking about units, what do you mean?
L1504[17:13:09] <CompanionCube> I was
thinking of the shit I did....which sounded suspiciously
similar
L1506[17:14:11] <Sandra> s/\//
L1507[17:14:14] <CompanionCube> ah,
aus
L1508[17:14:17] <Sandra> s/\\//
L1509[17:14:23] <Sandra> nope.
L1511[17:14:33] <Sandra> yep.
L1512[17:15:49] <Sandra> 1999.
L1514[17:16:03] <Sandra> ffs.
L1515[17:16:05] <CompanionCube> I think
that's either the right one
L1516[17:16:08] <CompanionCube> for
me
L1517[17:16:09] <CompanionCube> or close
enough
L1518[17:16:13] <CompanionCube> compare
the bullshitnes
L1519[17:17:49] <Sandra> that looks
silly.
L1520[17:17:54] <Sandra> but also a lot
shorter.
L1521[17:18:01] <Sandra> so probably
better.
L1522[17:18:02] <Sandra> ?
L1523[17:18:28] <CompanionCube> yeah, we
did it mostly in about half a year
L1524[17:18:29] <Sandra> that syllabus I
showed you, that's a 2 year course.
L1525[17:18:46] <CompanionCube> and is
done along side 8 other similar-sized subjects
L1526[17:18:47] <gamax92> R.I.P your
life
L1527[17:18:50] <CompanionCube>
concurrently
L1528[17:19:28] <Sandra> (along with 5.5
other subjects, or 11 other units.)
L1529[17:20:36] *
CompanionCube is in the home stretch of the 2nd year of the
thing
L1530[17:20:53] <CompanionCube> different
(better) topics this time around
L1531[17:21:19] <v^> Sandra, LOL stage 6
you finnaly learn what XOR is
L1532[17:21:48] <Sandra> really?
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L1534[17:21:58] <Sandra> we actually
learn that in this subject?
L1535[17:22:04] <Sandra> I'm incredibly
surprised.
L1536[17:22:12] <superjrr02> what
subject,i just joined
L1537[17:22:21] <CompanionCube> weirdly,
we learned/mentioned XOR in our robotics topic
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L1539[17:22:25] <v^> Students learn
about:
L1540[17:22:26] <v^> the structure of the
data stream
L1541[17:22:26] <v^> - the need to
recognise and strip control
L1542[17:22:26] <v^> characters
L1543[17:22:41] <Sandra> :P
L1544[17:22:46] <v^> so like
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L1546[17:23:33] <v^> i made a networking
protocol in CC almost 4 years ago now that is probably more
advanced than anything you would learn in this class
L1547[17:23:48] <Sandra> okay. my test is
on the 1st 3 sections in this syllabus.
L1548[17:23:48] <v^> i was about 13 years
old
L1549[17:23:56] <CompanionCube> Sandra,
hopefully they're not evil
L1550[17:23:59] <CompanionCube> and it's
VB.NET
L1551[17:24:05] <CompanionCube> rather
than plain VB6
L1552[17:24:13] <Sandra> VB.NET,
yes.
L1553[17:24:24] <v^> VB.NET
L1554[17:24:26] <Sandra> in the recent
version of VS.
L1555[17:24:28] <v^> just drop out
now
L1556[17:24:39] <Sandra> I thought we
would learn python.
L1557[17:25:03] <Sandra> but no, this
teacher training we had in our class decided to teach us VB.
L1558[17:25:11] <Sandra> using the 2008
express version.
L1559[17:25:16] <CompanionCube>
...2008
L1560[17:25:24] <v^> Sandra, 2008 express
isnt that bad
L1561[17:25:29] <Sandra> despite the
version of VS we had installed being 2014.
L1562[17:25:45] <v^> yeah 2014 that was
the latest version of VS
L1563[17:26:01] <CompanionCube> could be
worse
L1564[17:26:01] <v^> or wait
L1565[17:26:03] <CompanionCube> could be
PHP
L1566[17:26:03] <Sandra> and all the
links in the list being for the help in VB2008express.
L1567[17:26:12] <v^> nobody uses VS
2012
L1568[17:26:13] <CompanionCube> I expect
to learn PHP in the next level/year.
L1569[17:26:32] <v^> CompanionCube, PHP
is bad to learn
L1570[17:26:34] <Sandra> I learnt PHP 4
years ago.
L1572[17:26:41] <Sandra> can't remember a
thing.
L1573[17:26:41] <gamax92> s/le/bu/
L1574[17:26:42] <MichiBot> <Sandra>
I buarnt PHP 4 years ago.
L1575[17:26:47] <Sandra> I blocked it out
of my mind.
L1576[17:26:48] <gamax92> I tried.
L1577[17:26:51] <v^> cant remember
anything from PHP either
L1578[17:26:52] *
CompanionCube has not learned PHP
L1579[17:27:03] <CompanionCube> instead,
I've dabbled with Java/Python and most recently Ruby.
L1580[17:27:04] <v^> other than the
ridiculously inconsistant function names
L1581[17:27:07] <CompanionCube> I like
Ruby.
L1582[17:27:23] <v^> and having to prefix
every variable name with $
L1583[17:27:27] <v^> and references being
really derpy
L1584[17:27:40] <alekso56> php is my fav
language, it is perfect to annoy everyone.
L1585[17:27:49] <Sandra> I remember that
they released a function that didn't actually work, and then made a
new version calling the function "x_realy"
L1586[17:28:04] <CompanionCube> v^, you
forgot to mention mysql_real_escape_string
L1587[17:28:09] <Sandra> because due to
backwards compatibility, they couldn't modify the old thing.
L1588[17:28:12] <Sandra> that's the
one.
L1589[17:28:28] <Sandra>
mysql_real_escape_string.
L1590[17:28:32] <Sandra> ah....
L1591[17:28:33] <v^> oh my god
L1592[17:28:35] <v^> i fucking hated
that
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L1594[17:28:40] <CompanionCube> I think
they finally threw that library into the depths of /dev/null where
it belongs
L1595[17:28:50] <v^> rather than doing
SQL properly and precompiling statements
L1596[17:29:07] <Sandra> yeah, there's a
complex DB library that I don't understand now.
L1597[17:29:11] <Sandra> it's OOP I
think.
L1598[17:29:13] <v^> people are taught to
just inline all their sql code and use escapes
L1599[17:29:33] <CompanionCube> v^, my
college uses a C# survey app
L1600[17:29:41] <CompanionCube> Once I
was bored and threw a decompiler at it
L1601[17:29:48] <v^> lololo
L1602[17:29:51] <v^> sql injection?
L1603[17:29:52] <Sandra> I don't
SQL.
L1604[17:29:59] <CompanionCube> the vuln
is present
L1605[17:30:11] <CompanionCube> either
they know or they simply don't use plain text input boxes
L1606[17:30:28] <v^> Sandra, basically
just dont use SQL its a really bad way of interfacing with a
database
L1607[17:30:35] <CompanionCube> or
rather
L1608[17:30:38] <Sandra> yep.
L1609[17:30:40] <CompanionCube> don't
write SQL yourself
L1610[17:30:43] <CompanionCube> use a
damn library
L1611[17:30:45] <alekso56> i'd go with
"im not paid enough to care"
L1612[17:30:48] <Sandra> I don't use
databases myself.
L1613[17:30:52] <Sandra> *shrug*.
L1614[17:30:55] <v^> if you have to use
sql use a library that does the SQL part for you
L1615[17:31:04] <Sandra> I store data in
JSON.
L1616[17:31:19] <CompanionCube> also I
think their monitoring software has a buffer overflow bug in
it
L1617[17:31:25] <v^> Sandra, you
understand why thats not scalable though right? xD
L1618[17:31:27] <CompanionCube> when
combined with the chrome extension, that is
L1619[17:31:30] <Sandra> of course.
L1620[17:31:41] <alekso56> i prefer csv
format :v
L1621[17:31:45] <Sandra> but I never need
to store enough to need scalability.
L1622[17:31:47] <v^> !kickban
alekso56
L1623[17:31:48] <Sandra> so...
L1624[17:31:59] <CompanionCube> I prefer
XML \s
L1625[17:32:09] <v^> ^v stores everything
in bserialize'd data
L1626[17:32:12] <Sandra> how bout
yaml.
L1627[17:32:16] <v^> bserialize iz
magik
L1628[17:32:19] <Sandra> when I rubied I
used yaml.
L1629[17:32:31] <CompanionCube> YAML is
mehhh
L1630[17:32:34] <v^> <>
#bserialize(admin.perms)
L1631[17:32:34] <^v> v^, 17889
L1632[17:32:37] <v^> <>
#serialize(admin.perms)
L1633[17:32:37] <^v> v^, 36045
L1634[17:32:39] <v^> like
L1635[17:32:39] <CompanionCube> not the
easiest to write, but nice to read
L1636[17:32:39] <v^> cmon
L1637[17:32:43] <Sandra> yaml is
alright.
L1638[17:33:02] <v^> wait i think my
compression feature is off
L1639[17:33:18] <CompanionCube> we should
go weirder and use 36-bit bytes
L1640[17:33:22] <Sandra> either of them,
I don't write myself.
L1641[17:33:59] <Sandra> I export and
import data structures.
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L1643[17:35:29] <Sandra> ah yes...
structured algorithms.
L1644[17:35:33] <v^> ok yeah reference
optimization is enabled in bserialize
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L1647[17:36:07] <Sandra> aka Make The
Algorithm Less Optimized For The Sake Of One Exit Point.
L1648[17:36:18] <Sandra> it
L1649[17:37:12] <Sandra> 's literally
like do all the processing, then if it failed at the start, return
false.
L1650[17:37:32] <v^> Sandra, structured
algorithms what does that even
L1651[17:37:32] <Sandra> we were taught
to design algorithms like that.
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L1653[17:37:59] <v^> Sandra, no
exceptions or?
L1654[17:38:13] <Sandra> no
exceptions.
L1656[17:39:02] <v^> why are there
arbitrary rules on why you should make an algorithm .-.
L1657[17:39:46] <Sandra> the very first
example we got was this. "1. wake up. 2. if it's a school day
continue else stop. 3. brush teeth. 4. prepare. 5. if bus is there
continue else stop 6. go."
L1658[17:39:52] <Sandra> something like
that.
L1659[17:40:10] <Inari> lol
L1660[17:40:16] <Sandra> they said
"this is a bad algorithm, because it can stop at 2, 5 or
6."
L1661[17:40:24] <Sandra> I'm
serious.
L1663[17:41:14] <CompanionCube>
.....dafuq.
L1664[17:41:45] <CompanionCube> someone
has taken Dijkstra's advice way too seriously.
L1665[17:43:46] <tiddles> Sandra: I...
what.
L1666[17:43:53] <Sandra> I don't
know.
L1667[17:45:05] <CompanionCube> for some
reason
L1668[17:45:15] <CompanionCube> I think
they used to program in FORTRAN or COBOL
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L1670[17:47:19] <CompanionCube> so, do
they just not allow/ban branching in an 'algorithm'
L1671[17:47:37] <tiddles> oh jesus, the
network disk actually uses something disturbingly similar to real
IP. wow.
L1672[17:47:57] <tiddles> (also, it fails
to install correctly at the moment, but erh xD)
L1673[17:48:09] <CompanionCube> if you're
surprised by that
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L1676[17:48:56] <tiddles> CompanionCube:
I'm surprised that when I did a ping, dmesg showed me that there's
a bunch of *binary* data on the wire
L1677[17:49:17] <CompanionCube> plan9k
emulates unix well
L1678[17:49:23] <tiddles> I would have
expected, well, I don't even know what I expected.
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L1680[17:49:55] <tiddles> yeah, I do
remember plan9k going the full mile
L1681[17:50:09] <tiddles> as much as
possible, I mean
L1682[17:50:28] <CompanionCube> and then
there's architectures - which open the door to any CPU you can
interface to from JavA
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L1685[17:51:49] <CompanionCube> as the
last post shows, it was eventually replaced by the network
floppy
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L1687[17:53:48] <Sandra> CompanionCube,
they don't ban branching I don't think, they just ban leaving the
subroutine/algorithm at any point other than a single point at the
end.
L1688[17:54:00] <Sandra> fortran or cobol
does sound accurate.
L1689[17:54:27] <CompanionCube> I say
those two because they come from approximately the same period as
the practice.
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L1691[17:54:34] <CompanionCube>
Structured Programmin
L1692[17:54:36] <superjrr02> hello
everyone
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L1694[17:56:05] <v^> Sandra, they ban
returning O_o but why
L1695[17:56:17] <v^> its like
L1696[17:56:33] <v^> if everything in
your code is inlined, it does not change the program in any
way
L1698[17:56:37] <Sandra> they ban
returning at any point than the end.
L1699[17:56:40] <Sandra> yeah.
L1700[17:56:41] <CompanionCube> this may
shed some light
L1701[17:56:56] <v^> so they only put
this arbitrary struture restriction on functions
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L1705[17:59:44] <vifino> Damn. A juniper
with 4gbit nics for 100€ with installed crypto module.
L1706[17:59:45] <v^> Sandra, so does
vb.net or whatever have manual memory managment or RAII/GC
L1707[17:59:45] <vifino> :V
L1708[18:00:07] <CompanionCube> v^, it's
the same platform as C#
L1709[18:00:08] <CompanionCube> so
L1711[18:00:38] <v^> if you have a GC
there is no risk to leak resources anyway
L1712[18:01:08] <CompanionCube> that's
only true if the GC is good / worth a damn
L1713[18:01:22] <CompanionCube> obviously
the .NET one is though
L1714[18:02:14] <v^> well the whole point
of a GC instead of reference counter is to deal with circular
references and efficiently destroy many objects in a single
sweep
L1715[18:02:27] <CompanionCube> I count
reference counters as a GC
L1716[18:02:30] <CompanionCube> albeit a
crappy one
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L1718[18:02:48] <tiddles> CompanionCube:
heh. I really shouldn't be surprised at the nested implementations,
I mean, at one point I actually made a microcontroller bootloader
that transparently wraps a remote screen and uses a "terminal
server" to output data, all with the power of spare time and
network cards.
L1719[18:02:55] <tiddles> the stack never
ends xD
L1720[18:03:12] <v^> its more of just a
unique_ptr type thing than a GC since there is no single piece of
code managing existing objects
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L1724[18:04:50] <tiddles> mmmmmm,
mips
L1725[18:05:21] <CompanionCube> did you
guess that or google it
L1726[18:07:10] <`-`> guogle
L1727[18:07:50] <tiddles> no, gamax92's
kernel stunt is quite famous xD
L1728[18:07:57] <tiddles> so I, uh,
remembered it xD
L1729[18:08:04] <v^> jewgle
L1730[18:08:25] <gamax92> ?_?
L1731[18:08:36] <CompanionCube> wrong
person
L1732[18:09:01] <gamax92> ?????
L1733[18:09:10] <gamax92> tiddles:
what
L1734[18:09:28] <gamax92> oh,
greaser
L1735[18:09:41] <tiddles> yeah, mistab
xD
L1736[18:15:50] <Temia> moogles >
google
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L1740[18:21:17] <vifino> noodles >
poodles
L1741[18:22:36] <Sandra> we're apparently
mainly using python...
L1742[18:22:57] <Temia> Wait, what?
L1743[18:23:36] <GreaseMonkey> oh
sup
L1744[18:23:50] <CompanionCube> Sandra,
so
L1745[18:23:57] <CompanionCube> on a
scale of to 10
L1746[18:24:04] <CompanionCube> how
fucked is your class/group
L1747[18:25:43] <GreaseMonkey> i actually
updated OCMIPS to add an FPU just so i could decode MP3s at a
decent speed
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L1749[18:28:35] <tiddles> GreaseMonkey:
...you're actually decoding mp3s inside OC in real time?
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L1751[18:34:16] <GreaseMonkey> tiddles:
i've done it yes, mpg123 -> dfpwm encoder -> tape handling
code
L1752[18:34:40] <GreaseMonkey> if you
want to check it out, watch my upcoming talk at BTM 16.2
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L1756[18:40:29] <tiddles> Which URL do I
enqueue to be notified of the talk being available, also will there
be code, or just a demo. xD
L1757[18:42:59] <v^> Sandra, wait wait
wait
L1758[18:43:10] <v^> are they doing the
single return bs in python too?
L1759[18:43:30] <v^> python is so slow it
doesnt matter xD
L1760[18:43:38] <v^> even if there was
some internal reason
L1761[18:48:33] <Inari> "Latest
release (300 TB) of Open Data from the CMS Experiment at CERN's
LHC" lemme just DL that
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L1767[18:59:58] <tiddles> hmmmm. has
anyone successfully used the openradio mod?
L1768[19:00:48] <tiddles> XDjackieXD: I
mean, I'm assuming I point two lasers at one another, and then my
network cards should use them, since lasers themselves only have a
.getLatency method
L1769[19:03:54] <v^> infina, 300TB
supprisingly cheap
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L1771[19:04:18] <v^> concidering the
budget of CERN
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L1773[19:04:32] <v^> they could store
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L1775[19:09:53] <tiddles> XDjackieXD: Ah.
Well it seems that lenses placed right next to lasers make the
lasers think the connection is broken. :o
L1776[19:10:20] <tiddles> XDjackieXD: If
I space them one block further (or skip them entirely), everything
works. o_0
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L1781[19:39:15] <gamax92> no bake stuff
is usually very disappointing since all they're doing to make it
solid is freezing the stuff.
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L1788[19:51:28] <CompanionCube> Intel's
Management Engine is shit.
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L1790[19:55:42] <GreaseMonkey> fuck how
do i turn mine off entirely
L1791[19:56:41] <CompanionCube> one does
not simply
L1792[19:56:45] <CompanionCube> turn off
Intel ME
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L1795[20:00:25] <CompanionCube>
GreaseMonkey, if only SPARC / RISC-V were more of a thing
L1796[20:00:37] <GreaseMonkey> or
MIPS
L1797[20:00:44] <CompanionCube> is MIPS
actually open
L1798[20:00:59] <CompanionCube> also, /me
is currently using an old AMD Processor
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L1800[20:02:18] <GreaseMonkey> MIPS-I's
patents have expired i think
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L1803[20:03:18] <GreaseMonkey> but yeah
RISC-V might actually be pretty good
L1804[20:03:48] <CompanionCube> if we
needed it *now* though, SPARC would likely be the better
option
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L1806[20:05:10] <tiddles> How I wish
SPARCs came back in style. ;_;
L1807[20:07:00] <CompanionCube> what were
SPARCs like?
L1808[20:07:27] <CompanionCube> I know
that they were around the year 2000 or so, and reportedly are a
open architecture
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L1811[20:28:15] <GreaseMonkey> i suspect
RISC-V might be better-architected
L1812[20:28:31] <GreaseMonkey> it's
basically "what if we invented MIPS today"
L1813[20:29:58] <GreaseMonkey> they don't
use branch delay slots in RISC-V because it complicates branch
prediction
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L1818[20:54:46] <william341> hi guys im
back
L1819[20:55:36] <william341> hello?
L1820[20:56:25] <william341> rip
L1821[20:59:26] <GreaseMonkey> oh the
temptation to say absolutely nothing
L1822[20:59:42] <GreaseMonkey> welcome to
IRC, before you say "rip", make sure you've been on the
channel for 24 hours straight
L1823[20:59:56] <GreaseMonkey> with that
said, if you ever have a question, be prepared to wait an
hour
L1824[20:59:56] <william341> lol
L1825[21:00:08] <GreaseMonkey> not
everyone is looking at this channel at any given point in
time
L1826[21:00:13] <william341> i only had
to wait 5 mins laste time
L1827[21:00:20] <william341> anyone have
any good games?
L1828[21:00:27] <william341> (for
opencomputers)
L1829[21:00:45] <GreaseMonkey> oh right i
thought you meant games in general
L1831[21:01:30] <GreaseMonkey> any one of
the links in the "08/06/28 東方地霊殿 体験版ver0.02a(135M)" box
will do
L1832[21:02:01] <william341> what is that
game
L1833[21:02:09] <GreaseMonkey> a game
everyone should play
L1834[21:02:19] <william341> .-.
L1835[21:02:20] <GreaseMonkey> z is
shoot, x is bomb, shift is focus (which also shows your hit
circle)
L1836[21:02:47] <william341> do you
actually have any opencomputer games
L1837[21:03:11] <GreaseMonkey> no
L1838[21:03:19] <GreaseMonkey> but i do
have some great character-building games
L1839[21:03:23] <william341> .-.
L1840[21:03:32] <william341> is there
even any opencomputer games
L1841[21:03:47] <GreaseMonkey> probably
not right now, but i might end up making bullet hell for the BTM
16.2 compo
L1842[21:04:16] <william341> why not make
it now
L1843[21:04:32] <GreaseMonkey> hmm i
might do that, i do have a couple of patterns i can use
L1844[21:04:36] <Temia> Ouch. Bullet hell
on a textmode computer over internet? That sounds like death
waiting to happen.
L1845[21:04:44] <william341> ime sure the
lack of software is why everyone uses OC
L1846[21:05:06] <GreaseMonkey> it's
probably more to do with the fact that OC's "hardware" is
better
L1847[21:05:19] <william341> @Temia they
did it in 1985 in asm wer can do it in lua
L1848[21:05:20] <william341> i ment
L1849[21:05:20] <GreaseMonkey> with that
said i strongly recommend that game
L1850[21:05:37] <william341> im pretty
sure the lack of software is why everyone uses CC
L1851[21:05:37] <Temia> That's not what
the issue is.
L1852[21:05:39] <william341> not OC
L1853[21:06:02] <william341> temia whats
the issue then
L1854[21:06:03] <GreaseMonkey> OC's a bit
more realistic and it won't completely break when you cd to the
manuals directory
L1855[21:06:08] <william341> lol
L1856[21:06:09] <gamax92> ^ XD
L1857[21:06:09] <Temia> I already
explained.
L1858[21:06:18] <william341> OC also has
3d printers
L1859[21:06:23] <Temia> Textmode
computer, latency from internet connection.
L1860[21:06:33] <william341> hheh
L1861[21:06:42] <GreaseMonkey> oh that's
right i still have to port sonic 2 to... something
L1862[21:06:45] <Temia> Given the highly
realtime, fine-grained precision needed for bullet hell
shmups...
L1863[21:06:47] <william341> my fav
bullet hell
L1864[21:06:51] <william341> is
actually
L1865[21:06:52] <GreaseMonkey> sonic 2
master system ver of course, which is different from the one you've
heard
L1866[21:06:53] <william341> on a
bbs
L1867[21:07:02] <william341> with an
80x25 screen
L1868[21:07:13] <william341> with a
metric ton of latency
L1869[21:07:14] <william341> so yea
L1870[21:07:25] <Temia> I guarantee you,
pass it to system11's forums and they'll trash it and spit out the
skeleton.
L1871[21:07:39] <william341>
system11?
L1872[21:07:52] <william341> oh
L1873[21:07:52] <Temia> Shmup community
forum.
L1874[21:08:00] <william341> so who gives
a damn
L1875[21:08:12] <william341> it would be
better then all the crap we have now interms of games
L1876[21:08:13] <Temia> They tend to know
what they're looking at. :p
L1877[21:08:23] <william341> OC needs
games
L1878[21:08:32] <william341> but it is
better
L1879[21:08:39] <william341> it has 3d
printers and bigger screens
L1880[21:08:50] <william341> and
holograms
L1881[21:08:50] <Temia> And?
L1882[21:09:10] <william341> and better
lua as far as ive heard
L1883[21:09:14] <william341> and it has
servers
L1884[21:09:17] <Temia> And?
L1885[21:09:19] <william341> and it's os
is like linux
L1886[21:09:28] <Temia> You're preaching
to the choir, dude.
L1888[21:09:32] <MichiBot>
BTM 2016:
Opening Keynote | length:
11m 47s | Likes:
2 Dislikes:
0
Views:
358 | by
PucoslawTV
L1889[21:09:45] <gamax92>
ksdjfklsfhsdfh
L1890[21:09:54] <gamax92> watch -n 0.5
killall firefox
L1891[21:10:00] <GreaseMonkey> this is in
front of about 80 people
L1892[21:10:17] <william341> we need
doom
L1893[21:10:39] <GreaseMonkey> we need
people who do things instead of saying "we need X"
L1894[21:10:41] <Temia> GreaseMonkey, how
many of those 80 people actually saw it in realtime?
L1895[21:11:03] <GreaseMonkey> Temia: i
saw it realtime
L1896[21:11:05] <Temia> I guarantee you,
if I was present, I'd get a jittery 2 frames per second.
L1897[21:11:16] <GreaseMonkey> what's
your GPU? or is that more network connection?
L1898[21:11:17] <gamax92> the ones who
are talking keep ruining the song
L1899[21:11:18] *
vifino gives Temia an OMAP5 development board to develop shmups
for
L1900[21:11:20] <Temia> Network.
L1901[21:11:26] <GreaseMonkey> what's
your network connection
L1902[21:11:31] <GreaseMonkey> +
speeds
L1903[21:11:45] <vifino> gamax92: killall
-9 firefox
L1904[21:11:57] <Temia> Shitty 2mbit
ADSL, a speed bracket which a surprising amount of the world is
still stuck on if not worse!
L1905[21:12:02] <Temia> Gasp, imagine
that.
L1906[21:12:05] <vifino> -9 stands for
9th grade murdery.
L1907[21:12:10] <GreaseMonkey> it can
definitely do it
L1908[21:12:17] <GreaseMonkey> if you can
do 30KB/s (240Kb/s) you can do it
L1909[21:12:24] <GreaseMonkey> i think
i'm on 8mbit
L1910[21:12:28] <william341> You know
what we REALLY need?
L1911[21:12:29] <Temia> It's not about
the bandwidth.
L1912[21:12:33] <Temia> It's about the
latency.
L1913[21:12:35] <gamax92> william341: for
you to shut the fuck up?
L1914[21:12:40] <william341> .-.
L1915[21:12:43] <GreaseMonkey> seconded
gamax92
L1916[21:12:50] <gamax92> hey! we need
this
L1917[21:12:51] <GreaseMonkey> by the way
that's a video
L1918[21:12:51] <gamax92> hey! we need
that
L1919[21:13:04] <gamax92> whine whine
whine hey I want this
L1920[21:13:08] <gamax92> Shut the fuck
up.
L1921[21:13:09] <GreaseMonkey> hey! i -
sorry i mean, *we* need everyone to do shit for me
L1922[21:13:14] <william341> i was gonna
say a guide to port things from CC to OC because people seem to
want that but
L1923[21:13:15] <william341> ok
L1924[21:13:26] <GreaseMonkey> then write
it
L1925[21:13:28] <william341> that works
too
L1926[21:13:44] <GreaseMonkey> instead of
just making the vague suggestion that you'll write it
L1927[21:13:47] <GreaseMonkey> go on,
write it
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L1929[21:15:32] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey:
that plasma is very nice btw
L1930[21:15:55] <GreaseMonkey> are you
talking about the one i made for the demomaking talk i didn't
prepare words for
L1931[21:16:04] <gamax92> lol
L1932[21:16:08] <GreaseMonkey> also which
one, the first one or the second one
L1933[21:16:14] <gamax92> I haven't at
all seen any content from BTM 2016 soo
L1934[21:17:00] <Temia> Meh. snarly mood.
I'm going to go clean.
L1935[21:17:22] <gamax92> Bai Temia
L1936[21:17:45] <tiddles> GreaseMonkey:
heh, I didn't even know BTM was a athing, the things I learn when
randomly stumbling into IRC channels :3333
L1937[21:18:18] <gamax92> that triangle
is amazing :o
L1938[21:18:52] <GreaseMonkey> oh yeah
that reminds me i need to get that demo sorted
L1939[21:18:57] <GreaseMonkey> i have a
more flexible triangle renderer now
L1940[21:19:57] <gamax92> those tomatoes
are amazing!
L1941[21:20:12] <gamax92> why are there
tomatoes everywhere XD
L1942[21:20:31] <gamax92> GreaseMonkey:
those [HT] are amazing!
L1943[21:20:45] <GreaseMonkey> yes,
that's because i use a real text editor with real tabs
L1944[21:22:32] <gamax92> Skye's amazing
voice
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L1946[21:26:35] <CompanionCube>
huh.
L1947[21:27:16] <CompanionCube>
Apparently, intel's me might just have given birth to ring -3
exploits
L1948[21:30:12] <CompanionCube> 'A Ring
-3 rootkit was demonstrated by Invisible Things Lab for the Q35
chipset; it does not work for the later Q45 chipset as Intel
implemented additional protections'
L1949[21:30:50] <CompanionCube> 'For the
vulnerable Q35 chipset, a keystroke logger ME-based rootkit was
demonstrated by Patrick Stewin'
L1950[21:30:55] <CompanionCube>
GreaseMonkey: ^
L1951[21:31:04] <GreaseMonkey> oh
lovely
L1952[21:33:14] <CompanionCube> even when
used 'legitimately' there are issues
L1953[21:33:16] <CompanionCube> Another
security evaluation by Vassilios Ververis showed serious weaknesses
in the GM45 chipset implementation. In particular, it criticized
AMT for transmitting unencrypted passwords in the SMB (small
business) provisioning mode when the IDE redirection and Serial
over LAN features are used.
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L1960[23:01:14] <william341> is it
safe
L1961[23:01:37] <Temia> Rargh! Moo!
L1962[23:01:51] <william341> uhh
L1963[23:01:54] <william341> moo?
L1964[23:01:57] <Temia> Yes.
L1965[23:02:10] <william341> i think you
ment noo, right
L1966[23:02:13] <Temia> Nope.
L1967[23:02:18] <william341> why
moo
L1968[23:02:22] <Temia> Because
moo.
L1969[23:02:29] <Temia> :3
L1970[23:02:30] <william341> fair
enough
L1971[23:02:37] <william341> moo is a
good word
L1972[23:02:44] <Temia> And I am a good
moo.
L1973[23:02:46] *
Temia sagenods.
L1974[23:03:17] <william341> and i just
smacked my self with a fan.
L1975[23:03:23] <william341> good job
william!
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L1979[23:05:44] <william341>
GreaseMonkey: you know what we need
L1980[23:05:52] <william341> jk jk
jk
L1981[23:05:54] <GreaseMonkey> we need to
fuck off
L1982[23:06:05] <william341> yea i know
i'll stop
L1983[23:06:33] <william341> i've found a
way to get MineOS programs to run under not-mine os and so i'm
happy
L1984[23:07:10] <Vexatos> hi
greaser
L1985[23:07:14] <william341> i was going
to complain about how the irc client sucks but now I cant thanks to
gamax92
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L1987[23:07:25] <william341> seriously
wocchat is awesome
L1988[23:07:56] <GreaseMonkey> ohai
L1989[23:08:04] <gamax92> has
GreaseMonkey ever commented on the LFSR stuff yet
L1990[23:08:22] <GreaseMonkey> i haven't
commented yet as i'm waiting for the next round of the BTM
pack
L1991[23:08:28] <william341> lfsr?
L1992[23:08:36] <GreaseMonkey> linear
feedback shift register
L1993[23:08:45] <william341> ok
L1994[23:09:21] <william341> ima goo see
if i can remake cowsay
L1995[23:09:33] <william341> because
temia seems to like moo
L1996[23:09:50] <gamax92> Temia is a
moo
L1997[23:10:02] <william341> the moo told
me
L1998[23:10:33] <Temia> :3
L1999[23:12:00] <william341> how do you
accept arguments in OC
L2000[23:14:59] <v^> william341, in a
program i belive arguments are passed to you like a vararg
function
L2001[23:15:07] <v^> so "local foo =
..."
L2003[23:15:14] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
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L2005[23:17:05] <payonel> william341:
files are loaded like big functions
L2006[23:17:17] <payonel> so, at the
start of a script file, ... are the args you've passed to it
L2007[23:17:24] <william341> ok
L2008[23:17:28] <william341> makes
sence
L2009[23:17:30] <payonel> also consider
using shell.parse to create args and options
L2010[23:17:37] <payonel> local args,
options = shell.parse(...)
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L2012[23:19:30] <gamax92> payonel: that
"side effect" is fine
L2013[23:19:33] <gamax92> that's how I'd
expect it to act
L2014[23:21:28] <payonel> alrighty
:)
L2015[23:24:08] <payonel> tiddles: PR fix
for the lua prompt crash you found. thanks for reporting
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L2017[23:24:32] <Vexatos> %tell tiddles
please test readMultiple on that one
L2018[23:24:32] <tiddles> payonel:
awesome :3
L2019[23:24:34] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
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L2020[23:24:36] <Vexatos> ._.
L2021[23:24:57] <tiddles> Vexatos: sure,
let me get it and check
L2022[23:25:01] <william341> payonel:
what if i want to use the whole string as the argument
L2023[23:25:14] <tiddles> Vexatos: also,
I see I wasn't the only one irritated by lack of easy EEPROM
insertion xD
L2024[23:25:30] <payonel> william341:
shell prompt tokenizes the string before your script is run
L2025[23:25:45] <payonel> william341:
only way to preserve the string as a single argument, and keep all
whitespace, is to quote it
L2026[23:25:55] <william341> lets say its
"foo blah blah blah"
L2027[23:26:06] <william341> i want
"blah blah blah" as one argument
L2028[23:26:08] <payonel> yes, literally
with quotes, will be a single arg to your script
L2029[23:26:16] <william341> oh derp
thenk you
L2030[23:26:21] <payonel> then you need:
shell>foo "blah blah blah"
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L2033[23:26:51] <william341> right, but
what if i want it to by defaullt just have 1 arguemnt and have
whitespaces in said arguemnt
L2034[23:27:02] <payonel> without
quotes?
L2035[23:27:06] <william341> yes
L2036[23:27:10] <payonel> from shell
prompt, not possible
L2037[23:27:15] <payonel> now....
L2038[23:27:18] <william341> ok
L2039[23:27:24] <payonel> i had
considered implementing the aahhh...
L2040[23:27:30] <payonel> crap
L2041[23:27:32] <payonel> sec
L2042[23:27:36] <william341> the
ahhhhhhhhhhh?
L2043[23:29:16] <payonel> IFS
L2045[23:29:32] <payonel> but...it was
complicated and not really helpful to most users
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L2047[23:29:39] <william341> lol
L2048[23:29:40] <william341> ok
L2049[23:29:44] <payonel> IFS gives you
control over what defines a whitespace char
L2050[23:29:58] <william341> cause im
making cowsay so :P
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L2052[23:30:14] <payonel> but, yeah, i
did not add IFS support to openos shell
L2053[23:30:29] <william341> because of
Temia's obsession with moo
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L2055[23:30:39] <william341> xarses you
ok?
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L2057[23:31:08] <payonel> william341:
anywho, my point is, you can't get shell to not tokenize the string
before you script is called - nor can you customize how it tokenize
it
L2058[23:31:09] <william341> anyways ima
finsh cowsay
L2059[23:31:11] *
Temia huffs. She moos because she's a moo. :T that's all there is
to it.
L2060[23:31:17] <tiddles> Vexatos:
confirmed as working :3
L2061[23:31:20] <payonel> short of
modifying the tokenizing library, or writing your own shell
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L2063[23:31:33] <william341> which seems
pointless
L2064[23:31:47] <Vexatos> tiddles,
yay
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L2066[23:32:15] <tiddles> Vexatos: now,
let's see if multiple writes work xD
L2067[23:36:55] <tiddles> Vexatos: yep,
no more bugs for now :3
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L2069[23:37:13] <Vexatos> yaaay ._.
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L2072[23:39:24] <Vexatos> aand off to
uni
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L2076[23:41:56] <william341> Temia: i've
released Cowsay for OC
L2077[23:42:12] <Temia> Including stdin
reading?
L2078[23:42:17] <Temia> Wait
L2079[23:42:19] <william341> enjoy the
moo potential
L2080[23:42:20] <Temia> Of course it
would
L2081[23:42:39] <Temia> Now we just need
to port BSD fortune if it isn't already there
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L2083[23:44:52] <william341> temia it
litterally takes input as an arguemnt
L2084[23:44:59] <william341> you can't
pipethings into it
L2085[23:45:13] <payonel> Temia,
william341: if you have any more openos question, just ping me --
i'll check this channel tomorrow - goodnight
L2086[23:45:14] *
payonel is afk
L2087[23:45:20] <Temia> Hm?
L2088[23:45:23] <Temia> Uh, okay?
L2089[23:45:39] <william341> but maybe
later i'll implement a clone of fortune into it
L2090[23:45:45] <william341> and have
that as an option
L2091[23:46:03] <Temia> That seems kind
of weak.
L2092[23:46:35] <william341> would you
rather not have it have fourtune at all
L2093[23:47:20] <william341> and i kinda
just did it as a joke
L2094[23:47:24] <william341> so
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L2097[23:52:57] <tiddles> %tell Vexatos
(you should still totally rename the "Tape Reader Module"
to something like "Tape Drive Module", since it's not at
all just about reading :P)
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