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L10[00:46:41] <asie> gamax92: >seven
years ago asie was an asshole
L11[00:46:48] <asie> no, I was just
twelve
L12[00:46:53] <asie> >good to see things
have changed
L13[00:46:54] <asie> no, they have
not
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L30[02:04:33] <Saphire> mop
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L39[04:17:48] <Turtle> oh dear.
L40[04:17:55] <Turtle> so I'm looking at
bethesda's mod page
L41[04:18:03] <Turtle> Was minecraft forum
THIS bad?
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L46[04:42:24] <vifino> That moment when you
realize that coffeine has almost no effect on you anymore.
L47[04:43:06] <vifino> Friends don't let
friends live on caffeine, nullifying their effect.
L48[04:48:08] <snowden89> vifino: that
point was years ago for me
L49[04:48:19] <snowden89> drinking coffee
or not drinking coffee is the same end point now
L50[04:48:26] <snowden89> i just drink it
like a habbit
L51[04:51:22] <vifino> Same.
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L53[05:28:32] <evil_dan2wik> substitute
coffee addiction for crack addiction
L54[05:34:47] *
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in the process
L55[05:36:10] *
Lizzy wonders where vifino is
L56[05:38:36] *
vifino is next to Lizzy, hiding behind a pillow
L57[05:39:30] *
Lizzy looks round, sees vifino and hugs him
L58[05:40:02] <snowden89> we are the being
coffee forgot to spike
L59[05:40:55] *
vifino hugs Lizzy back, kisses her and giggles
L60[05:42:01] <Kodos> #lua return 1.2.2
>= 1.2.1
L61[05:42:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string
"lua"]:1: malformed number near '1.2.2'
L62[05:42:09] <Kodos> mkay
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L64[05:42:22] <Temia> #lua return
"1.2.2" >= "1.2.1"
L65[05:42:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
L66[05:42:30] <Temia> #lua return
"1.2.1" >= "1.2.2"
L67[05:42:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
false
L68[05:42:36] <Kodos> Oh, so that
works?
L69[05:42:43] <Kodos> Nifty
L70[05:42:46] <Temia> Yeah, the good ol'
strcmp()
L71[05:43:21] <Temia> Alternatively, store
them as hex.
L72[05:43:32] <Temia> #lua return 0x010202
> 0x010201
L73[05:43:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
true
L74[05:46:28] <snowden89> really.
L75[05:46:38] <snowden89> did not know that
was a thing you had to deal with
L76[05:47:53] <snowden89> lol though i
would most likely overworked it massively and filtered version
number into a list seperated by '.' then compared if list =
list
L77[05:47:58] <snowden89> and ruined
something
L78[05:48:00] <snowden89> \:P
L79[05:48:18] <snowden89> i am good at
making code smell
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L82[06:11:36] <Lizzy> brb, getting
snacks
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L86[06:22:51] *
Lizzy is back with cookies
L87[06:22:54] *
Lizzy offers vifino some
L88[06:23:12] <vifino> :O
L89[06:23:15] <vifino> WANT!!
L90[06:23:19] *
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L91[06:24:17] <Skye> I need water
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L95[06:30:26] <Skye> Don't swimming pools
contain chlorine and are also full of waste matter?
L96[06:30:46] <vifino> Excellent for you to
drink.
L97[06:32:35] <Temia> Kodos, there's one
reason to go with the hex strategy, btw.
L98[06:32:49] <Temia> #lua return
"1.2.10" >= "1.2.2"
L99[06:32:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
false
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L104[06:50:32] <MichiBot>
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L108[07:09:16] <Kodos> Mimiru, if I had
half a clue how to use that, I probably would
L110[07:10:36] <Mimiru>
compareVersions(1.2.10, 1.2.2) Will either return 0, > 0, or
< 0
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L113[07:24:44] <Izaya> >.> flaky
connection
L114[07:26:08] *
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L116[07:29:30] <Skye> Hehe
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L121[07:45:08] <Inari> *melons
L122[07:45:26] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L123[07:45:31] <Lizzy> afk, going to
remote site
L124[07:45:31] <Izaya> you could've just
asked Inari
L125[07:45:42] <Inari> Lizzy: like that?
lewd
L126[07:45:42] <Izaya> doesn't mean I
would've said yes but it's nice to ask before taking stuff
L127[07:45:55] <Izaya> and if the person
says no you take it anyway
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L130[07:47:25] <Inari> Izaya: its rude to
just take it, lets say it has a rudeness value of 1, since you
didnt know if you can take it or not. if you knwo you are not to
take it, its ruder though, like 2. now if we say theres a 50%
chance of being allowed to take it which wouldr esult in a reudness
value of 0, the average of asking would be a rudeness value of 1,
but with extra work
L131[07:47:31] <Inari> so we can just take
it and take that rudeness value
L132[07:47:37] <Inari> that way we also
minimize the maximum expected rudeness
L133[07:48:02] <Izaya> you're looking at
the worst-case scenario
L134[07:48:06] <Izaya> which is fair
enough I guess
L135[07:48:14] <Izaya> but you might also
get a rudeness value of 0
L136[07:48:29] <Inari> but given a 50/50
chance the average is 1
L137[07:48:47] <malcom2073> I'd say 1.5, 1
being you're allowed to, and 2 being you're not
L138[07:49:01] <Inari> if you're being
allowed ot theres no rudenes though
L139[07:49:02] <Inari> hence its 0
L140[07:49:05] <malcom2073> only if you
asked first
L141[07:49:13] <Inari> thats the point?
:P
L142[07:49:30] <malcom2073> Right, so
total average is 1, but average of your actions is actaully 1.5
:-P
L143[07:49:41] <Inari> well no
L144[07:49:46] <Inari> thers 2 paths tot
ake, either ask or dont ask
L145[07:49:52] <Inari> dont ask doesnt
factor into the path of asking
L146[07:49:54] <Inari> as they are opposed
ways
L147[07:50:21] <malcom2073> Two paths,
four outcomes
L148[07:50:46] <malcom2073> You're
averaging both paths together, I'm averaging both outcomes of a
single path
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L150[07:51:24] <malcom2073> Pretty much
purely because it increases the rudeness value :)
L151[07:54:51] <Inari> but its 1 then
again
L152[07:54:58] <Inari> (0+1+2)/3 = 1
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L161[08:32:33] <MichiBot>
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L163[08:59:15] <Lizzy> back but now home
time
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L168[09:27:34] <Skye> My hair is too long
to see normally
L169[09:29:49] <gamax92> My hair is a
thick rug
L170[09:31:41] <S3> gross
L171[09:32:35] <Skye> I should probably
get my hair trimmed a little to get rid of split ends and allow me
to sww
L172[09:32:38] <Skye> See
L173[09:36:59] <Sangar> o/
L175[09:42:53] <Sangar> done with work for
the week. time to get some work done .-.
L176[09:42:59] <Sangar> mc's updating too
fast these days
L177[09:53:11] <Skye> Sangar: maybe it's
how MS plans to kill off mods
L178[09:54:11] <malcom2073> Considering
the number of people still playing FTB:Ultimate... heh
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L181[10:03:03] <S3> ultimate? no, I still
play Technic 1.5_01
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L184[10:03:58] <S3> they won't kill off
mods
L185[10:04:12] <S3> nothing wrong with
using old versions
L186[10:04:22] <S3> if we need more
features we can just mod it :P
L187[10:05:32] <Lizzy> Hah, steam works
fine across Network storage
L188[10:06:10] <Lizzy> Well, I mean it
loads fine. Off to grandparents so can't test much more at the
moment
L190[10:06:17] <Saphire> russian roads
xD
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L195[10:16:30] <Sangar> well this is
suspicious
L196[10:16:34] <Sangar> only three waves
of errors
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L202[10:42:10] <Trangar> I'd drug
her
L203[10:42:11] <Trangar> Err, I mean
L204[10:42:14] <Inari> lewd
L205[10:42:52] <Trangar> That's way more
interesting than the RFC-6455 document I'm reading
L206[10:42:53] <Trangar> Please send
more
L207[10:43:01] <Inari> lol
L208[10:43:10] <Inari> any interest in
d.va?
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L214[10:53:30] <Saphire> mop
L215[10:53:45] <Trangar> Moo
L216[10:55:44] <Skye> Nyan
L217[10:56:51] *
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L218[10:57:38] <Inari> nya? D:
L221[11:04:04] <Skye> Inari, why do you
keep on posting images here? I'm curious
L222[11:04:53] <Trangar> He likes us
L223[11:05:52] <gamax92> she
L224[11:07:30] <Trangar> It
L225[11:07:47] <gamax92> she
L226[11:09:00] <Inari> Skye: why not
L227[11:09:14] <Skye> Inari, true
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L230[11:09:41] *
Inari posts SSTV vids instead?
L231[11:10:54] <Skye> Inari, isn't that
going to melt our ears
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L233[11:11:23] *
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L235[11:13:08] <Lizzy> Inari, want the
full album of the link about drugs you posted?
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L237[11:14:37] <Inari> i suppose?
L238[11:14:40] <Sangar> .-. i don't think
i like the new descriptor packet behavior. or it doesn't like
me.
L239[11:15:23] <Shuudoushi> lol
L240[11:16:39] <Lizzy> or i did have
it...
L241[11:16:47] *
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reasons
L242[11:16:50] <Vexatos> Sangar,
HIIII
L243[11:16:57] <Vexatos> MY FINGERS SMELL
LIKE ROTTEN EGGS <23
L244[11:17:04] <Inari> ew
L245[11:17:07] <gamax92> biology?
L246[11:17:18] <Shuudoushi> the fuck
Vexatos...
L247[11:17:20] <Vexatos> Qualitative
analysis.
L248[11:17:20] <Sangar> Vexatos,
AWESOME!!!
L249[11:17:21] *
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rottenfingers
L250[11:17:24] <Sangar> also wtf
L251[11:17:30] <Shuudoushi> LMAO
Inari
L252[11:17:31] <Vexatos> Qualitative
analysis!
L253[11:17:36] <Sangar> too much chemistry
i suppose
L254[11:17:39] <gamax92> man that's a name
I haven't heard in a long time
L255[11:17:47] <Shuudoushi> same
L256[11:17:51] <Shuudoushi> lol
L257[11:17:52] <Lizzy> okay then, it's in
my favoirutes but not when i view my progile normally...
L258[11:18:23] <gamax92> bzzt
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L260[11:18:51] <Vexatos> you like, torture
your salt with aqua regia until it cries, then put one sulfide into
it, separate the precipitate, put ANOTHER sulfide into it and COOK
IT
L262[11:19:02] <Vexatos> i.e. sulfide,
sulfide and more sulfide
L263[11:19:32] <Vexatos> + pH=0 -> More
H₂S than you could ever eatz
L264[11:19:47] <Vexatos> So yea
L265[11:20:03] <Vexatos> Dear diary, today
I produced a carpload of one of the most toxic gases on earth
<3
L266[11:20:10] <Vexatos> my fingers smell
like it, my lungs are full of it
L267[11:20:12] <Shuudoushi> Vexatos:
nilered, youtube, have fun
L268[11:20:12] <Inari> HS what
L269[11:20:14] <Vexatos> I'll probably
due
L270[11:20:16] <Vexatos> die*
L271[11:20:21] <Vexatos> Inari, do you
even unicode
L272[11:20:46] <Inari> im not going sit up
to try and copypaste that
L273[11:20:53] <Shuudoushi> hydrogen
sulfide
L274[11:21:03] <Inari> why would you eat
hydrogen sulfide
L275[11:21:10] <Shuudoushi> it's a
gas...
L276[11:21:19] <Inari> hence my
point
L277[11:21:23] <Shuudoushi> lol...
L278[11:21:37] <Shuudoushi> the dip shit
breathed it
L279[11:21:42] <Shuudoushi> now he's going
to die :D
L280[11:21:48] <Inari> he said more of it
than you coudl eat though
L281[11:21:48] <Inari> :f
L282[11:22:07] <Shuudoushi> high off the
fumes?
L283[11:22:23] <Shuudoushi> the shit does
kill brain cells pretty quick
L284[11:25:03] <Vexatos> Inari, do you
even Life of Brian ;_;
L285[11:27:44] <gamax92> R.I.P
Vexatos
L286[11:27:57] <gamax92> time to find
Computronics a new home
L287[11:28:48] <Shuudoushi> lol
L288[11:28:54] <Sangar> k
L289[11:28:58] <Sangar> 1.9.4 build is on
jenkins
L290[11:28:59] <Sangar> hf
L291[11:29:59] <XDjackieXD> \o/
L292[11:30:20] <gamax92> Sangar: how easy
was it to port
L293[11:30:54] <Sangar> gamax92, getting
rid of errors, relatively easy. avoid te syncing being completely
broken, a little more time :P
L294[11:31:19] <Sangar> (i.e. description
packets)
L295[11:31:33] <gamax92> document this
process so that future historians can look upon your research
L296[11:31:42] <Sangar> i did
L297[11:31:46] <Sangar> it's called a
"commit"
L298[11:31:57] <Sangar> :P
L299[11:32:03] <gamax92> :P
L300[11:32:12] <Vexatos> gamax92, usually
the gas escapes the lungs at night
L301[11:32:24] <Vexatos> if it was too
much I'd be dead for hours
L302[11:32:38] <Vexatos> as I said, one of
the most toxic substances on earth :)
L303[11:32:51] <gamax92> these p8jam2
themes are kinda ... I dunno I just don't feel enthused by any of
them
L304[11:32:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, wait, how
did getDescriptionPacket change ._.
L305[11:33:41] <gamax92> useless power up
is just another way to say an enemy
L306[11:34:13] <gamax92> if you have a
power up in a game that does nothing or is detrimental then you
tend to avoid it, and thus it's just another obstacle
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L308[11:36:43] <Sangar> Vexatos, it's now
two parts, getUpdatePacket and getUpdateTag, where getUpdateTag is
also used in a couple of other places such as when assembling the
chunk packet sent to the client
L309[11:37:02] <Vexatos> so uuuh
L310[11:37:09] <Sangar> but, that chunk
data is then not read via onDataPacket but via readFromNBT
.-.
L311[11:37:13] <Sangar> because
reasons
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L313[11:38:40]
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L314[11:39:02] <Vexaton> Sooo
L315[11:39:08] <Vexaton> how do we get old
behaviour back? >_>
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L320[11:40:53] <Vexatos> wee, headache is
setting in
L321[11:40:59] <gamax92> Vexatos:
Coremods? :>
L322[11:42:06] <Vexatos> gamax92,
GreaseMonkey suggested throwing LFSR into the sound card
L323[11:42:11] <Vexatos> LFSR noise, that
is
L324[11:42:13] <gamax92> y
L325[11:42:30] <Vexatos> because he needs
it >_>
L326[11:42:33] <gamax92> just because he
wants some periodic noise?
L327[11:42:51] <gamax92> with non noise
characteristics
L328[11:43:58] <gamax92> Vexatos: well,
ask him how many bits and which bits to contribute
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L330[11:45:32] <Vexatos> he already gave
me the algo he wanted
L331[11:45:45] <gamax92> ahh, linky
then?
L332[11:45:51] <Vexatos> sec
L333[11:46:14] <gamax92> I can use it to
figure out audio characteristics and 'guess' why he wants it
L335[11:48:03] <gamax92> ahh ...
L336[11:48:18] <gamax92> he wants the
Master system's characteristics
L337[11:48:23] <Vexatos> indeed
L338[11:49:24] <gamax92> I think that
would be from it's PSG?
L339[11:49:45] <Vexatos> ? ._.
L340[11:50:04] <gamax92> Vexatos: the
SN76489
L341[11:50:16] <Vexatos> ah
L342[11:50:46] <Vexatos> hm
L343[11:50:54] <Vexatos> the algo doesn't
really look like noise, does it
L344[11:51:48] <gamax92> Vexatos: it
does
L346[11:52:22] <Vexatos> yes that is
completely random
L347[11:52:29] <gamax92> no?
L348[11:52:35] <Vexatos> hm
L349[11:52:40] <Vexatos> you are right,
actually
L350[11:52:45] <Vexatos> .-.
L351[11:52:47] <Vexatos> nevermind
L352[11:53:10] <Vexatos> how would I apply
it to a generated value though
L353[11:53:11] <gamax92> it'll be a much
lower quality source of noise but I dunno, if GreaseMonkey really
wants it ...
L354[11:53:11] <Vexatos> in-code
L355[11:54:05] <gamax92> from what I
understood of what he said, advancing to the next value in the
table follows the same pattern as the current noise generator
L356[11:54:16] <gamax92> when offset rolls
back over you advance to the next value
L357[11:54:42] <gamax92> 440Hz means
offset rolls over 440 times means you'd have advanced 440 values
over one second
L358[11:55:39] <Vexatos> ah, so everytime
offset rolls over I just put noise[current + freq] ?
L359[11:55:43] <gamax92> no
L360[11:55:46] <gamax92> you advance by
1
L361[11:55:48] <Vexatos> oooooh
L362[11:55:49] <Vexatos> ok
L363[11:55:58] <Vexatos> so the next value
every period
L364[11:56:22] <gamax92> mmhm, and then if
he really wants it as a bunch of booleans then: noise[current] ? 1
: -1
L365[11:56:36] <Vexatos> well i could have
it be a byte[]
L366[11:56:48] <Vexatos> and just add 1 or
-1 in the constructor
L367[11:56:51] <gamax92> sure
L368[11:56:54] <Vexatos> instead of true
and false
L369[11:57:17] <gamax92> no idea what
you'd call it, it's a rather shit LSFR
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L371[11:58:55] <Vexatos> hm, so the noise
inverts the value at certain points
L372[11:59:38] <gamax92> hmm?
L373[12:00:42] <Vexatos> isn't that what
it does
L374[12:00:48] <Vexatos> I am trying to
understand the algo >_>
L375[12:01:54] <gamax92> wha?
L376[12:02:37] <Vexatos> Just trying to
understand what that method actually does
L377[12:02:45] <Vexatos> what's so
peculiar about that
L378[12:03:13] <gamax92> it just shifts
the bits over by 1 every single loop, and depending on the values
of certain bits it'll fill in top with a 1 or a 0
L379[12:03:19] <gamax92> I.E and
LFSR
L380[12:03:23] <gamax92> an
L381[12:03:24] <Vexatos> yea
L382[12:03:41] <Vexatos> if there are two
types of noise now, it might be worth switching from AudioType to
something different
L383[12:03:47] <Vexatos> I have an
idea
L384[12:04:10] <gamax92> the thing is that
that alone won't give GreaseMonkey the type of noise he's looking
for
L385[12:04:50] <Vexatos> probably
L386[12:04:52] <Vexatos> maybe
L387[12:04:56] <Vexatos> well
L388[12:04:58] <Vexatos> hmm
L389[12:05:10] <Vexatos> I'd just
implement the new system anyway to allow for more types of
noise
L390[12:05:36] <gamax92> Vexatos: I mean
because of voltage :P
L391[12:06:09] <gamax92> ideally when you
output a bit it'll go high and stay high, but what happens is that
It'll decay
L392[12:07:38] <gamax92> but if he just
wants that then that's fine
L393[12:08:44] <gamax92> gah, brb, keep
forgetting to do a thing
L394[12:09:25] <Vexatos> I'd move the
frequency and offset fields over from Wave to state
L395[12:09:29] <Vexatos> State*
L396[12:09:40] <Vexatos> and have wave be
either an actual audiotype or a noise type
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L400[12:21:14] <Vexatos> uh gamax92, your
load and save are borked
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L403[12:37:55] <Vexatos> ok, gamax92,
system is in place.
L404[12:38:03] <Vexatos> state now has a
field called generator
L405[12:38:11] <Vexatos> which either a
wave or a noise may rest inside of
L406[12:38:42] <Vexatos> difference
between the two types is that wave gets to return a new value every
sample and noise every period
L407[12:38:47] <Vexatos> does that sound
good enough?
L408[12:40:57] *
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back
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L410[12:46:36] <gamax92> Vexatos: mmhm, is
how my system works
L411[12:47:21] <gamax92> was just hooking
up a new pc speaker in my computer
L412[12:47:34] <gamax92> had to find a
place to mount it, but settled on a spot
L413[12:47:44] <gamax92> also found a
disconnected drive
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L415[12:48:37] <gamax92> a bunch of stuff
from 2015
L416[12:51:12] <gamax92> I'm gonna say I
have all of this already, seems like it was an older drive I cloned
from
L417[12:51:19] <Vexatos> huh
L418[12:52:03] <Vexatos> how would I call
LFSR if it's not actually LFSR like you said :P
L419[12:52:09] *
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L420[12:52:36] <gamax92> Vexatos: it is an
LFSR?
L421[12:53:24] <Vexatos>
<gamax92>
no idea what you'd call it, it's a rather
shit LSFR
L422[12:53:33] <Vexatos> is what I
meant
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L424[12:53:55] <Vexatos> I haven't messed
with noise before so I have no idea >_>
L425[12:54:01] <gamax92> Vexatos: if I say
"That is a purple car", because I said purple does that
mean it's no longer a car?
L426[12:54:23] <Vexatos> the "no idea
what you'd call it" is the interesting thing
L427[12:54:42] <gamax92> as in the
class/variable/lua interface name
L428[12:55:15] <Vexatos> yes
L429[12:55:20] <Vexatos> is what I am
wondering
L430[12:55:58] <gamax92> just refer to it
as LFSR then?
L431[12:56:28] <gamax92> I just don't like
it because of it's bit mixing choices and the fact that it has a 1
bit output
L432[12:56:53] <Vexatos> what output would
you want?
L433[12:57:03] <gamax92> My noise
generator :P
L434[12:58:00] <gamax92> Vexatos: ignore
me
L435[12:58:23] <Vexatos> okay,
setFrequency is a new function
L436[12:58:31] <Vexatos> setWave only
takes a wave form
L437[12:58:41] <Vexatos> also setNoise
which takes a noise type
L438[12:58:47] <gamax92> uhh
L439[12:59:01] <gamax92> Why couldn't you
have put the noise types with the wave types?
L440[12:59:15] <Vexatos> because LFSR
cannot be a singleton
L441[12:59:20] <Vexatos> and thus not be
part of an enum
L442[12:59:39] <gamax92> and?
L443[12:59:50] <Vexatos> ... and thus I
cannot put it into AudioType
L444[13:00:01] <gamax92> or you could
realize that it doesn't have to be an enum.
L445[13:00:17] <Vexatos> it kind of
does
L446[13:00:18] <gamax92> or that it can
still be, for the sake of easy class to number translation
L447[13:00:19] <Vexatos> for the noise
card
L448[13:00:20] <gamax92> nope
L449[13:00:24] <gamax92> well fix it
L450[13:00:27] <Vexatos> what?
L451[13:00:52] <Vexatos> All the wave
forms types can be singletons so why wouldn't I have them be
that
L452[13:01:58] <gamax92> Vexatos: are you
whining over a small bit of memory?
L453[13:02:06] <Vexatos> over code
style
L454[13:02:52] <gamax92> Vexatos: is it at
all possible for setWave to detect noise/waveform and do whatever's
necessary for the respective type?
L455[13:03:26] <Vexatos> well
L456[13:03:34] <Vexatos> LFSR also needs
three additional parameters
L457[13:03:40] <gamax92> so?
L458[13:03:47] <Vexatos> so SetWave
doesn't work
L459[13:03:48] <gamax92> erm, what?
L460[13:04:00] <gamax92> are you trying to
make a generic LFSR? ;~;
L461[13:04:09] <Vexatos> yes, as suggested
by greaser
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L463[13:04:36] <gamax92> okay, disregard
my previous statments, can be separated then
L464[13:04:59] <Vexatos> the size of the
loop, the initial position and the bits that get inverted every
step can be configured
L465[13:05:05] <Vexatos> those are the
three parameters
L466[13:05:18] <gamax92> mmhm
L467[13:05:26] <gamax92> size of loop is a
power of two number right?
L468[13:05:29] <gamax92> (given that it's
bits)
L469[13:05:52] <gamax92> well ...
L470[13:06:01] <gamax92> you're still
gonna make it do one bit output aren't you?
L471[13:06:05] <Vexatos> in the example,
greaser used [0,57337]
L472[13:06:12] <Vexatos> not really a
power of 2
L473[13:06:30] <Vexatos> no idea, what
else could the output be?
L474[13:07:07] <gamax92> the entire value
itself, or that value but also slightly bit scrambled
L475[13:07:26] <gamax92> c64 uses the
latter-ish, it has 24 bits but selects 8 arbitrary ones
L476[13:07:56] <Vexatos> wait, greaser
wants me to return noise[(int) (state.offset * state.frequencyInHz)
% noise.length];
L477[13:07:59] <Vexatos> that can't be
right
L478[13:08:04] <gamax92> ignore that
L479[13:08:13] <gamax92> incrementing
every period should do what he wanted
L480[13:08:14] <Vexatos> every call,
increase index by 1, right?
L481[13:08:17] <Vexatos> yes
L482[13:08:18] <Vexatos> ok
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L485[13:11:21] <gamax92> sure
L486[13:15:58] <Vexatos> soo setWhiteNoise
and setLFSR?
L487[13:16:04] <Vexatos> hmm
L488[13:16:28] <Vexatos> need to document
setWave and those two being mutually exclusive
L489[13:16:42] <Vexatos> I wish I could do
something better
L490[13:16:48] <Vexatos> I could with
userdata but eeeeeeh
L491[13:16:54] <Vexatos> won't work OOP
into Lua
L492[13:18:17] <Vexatos> "Overwrites
any wave or noise type previous set on this channel" I am not
good at phrasing >_>
L493[13:19:10] <Vexatos> It's quite
unintuitive for three mutually exclusive instructions to exist but
I have no better idea
L494[13:20:04] <Inari> so
L495[13:20:09] <Inari> do we have a mp3
player yet
L496[13:20:11] <Inari> or ogg :P
L497[13:20:18] <Vexatos>
betterrecords
L498[13:20:30] <Inari> whats that
L499[13:20:59] <gamax92> Vexatos: bleh
.-.
L500[13:21:14] <gamax92> but setWhiteNoise
would have no configuration
L501[13:22:42] <Inari> Vexatos: hows the
fingersmell situation doing/
L502[13:23:20] <gamax92> can the LFSR just
be the only one separate?
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L504[13:24:55] <gamax92> you're already
making it horribly ugly, just make it as least ugly as possible
.-.
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L506[13:27:24] <gamax92> I guess it's the
nature of such a hing
L508[13:30:31] <Forecaster> aaaaaa
face
L510[13:31:53] <Forecaster> aaaaa
card
L511[13:33:20] <gamax92> 10/10
manual
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L514[13:37:17] <Vexatos> Inari, smelly
smell
L515[13:37:24] <Vexatos> gamax92,
setWhiteNoise would only have a channel, yes
L516[13:37:29] <Vexatos> uuuugly
L517[13:37:33] <Vexatos> hm
L518[13:37:44] <gamax92> Vexatos: like all
of the other waveforms besides LFSR, yes?
L519[13:37:50] <gamax92> so why not make
setWave include it :)
L520[13:37:53] <Vexatos> good idea
L521[13:37:56] <Vexatos> but only on the
Lua side
L522[13:37:59] <gamax92> yes
L523[13:38:03] <Vexatos> internally, it
will be a separate Instruction
L524[13:38:03] <Inari> Vexatos: i cant
play the settings i made twice with noise card: <
L525[13:38:06] <Inari> ? :<
L526[13:38:24] <Vexatos> Inari,
indeed
L527[13:38:31] <Vexatos> it processes the
buffer
L528[13:38:35] <Vexatos> meaning it's
empty afterwards
L529[13:38:49] <Vexatos> if you want to
keep your settings, well, get a sound card :D
L530[13:38:49] <Inari> what a pain
:D
L531[13:39:10] <Vexatos> gamax92, so it'd
be a normal card.setWave(0, card.modes.noise)?
L532[13:39:23] <gamax92> yah
L533[13:39:28] <gamax92> like it was
before D:<
L534[13:39:47] <Vexatos> but that means
I'd have to add it to AudioType again D:
L535[13:40:18] <Vexatos> Meaning the noise
card would have access to it... While it kind of makes sense for a
noise card to have noise.... is white noise useful at all if you
don't have modulation? >_>
L536[13:40:41] <Vexatos> all the noise
card would do was play random frequencies on some channel
>_>
L537[13:42:09] <Inari> hm
L538[13:42:16] <Inari> so how do i get the
soundcard to output something :D
L539[13:43:41] <Inari> ah
L540[13:44:08] <Inari> hm
L541[13:44:12] <Inari> i must be doing
somethign wrong :D
L543[13:45:25] <Inari> oh
L544[13:45:26] <Inari> ms
L545[13:45:26] <Inari> :P
L546[13:45:42] <Inari> hmm still no
dice
L547[13:46:11] <gamax92> Vexatos: are you
trying to see noise is not useful?
L548[13:46:21] <gamax92> percussion?
L549[13:46:24] <Vexatos> gamax92, white
noise on its own, just played
L550[13:46:25] <gamax92> drums?
L551[13:46:28] <Vexatos> for a set amount
of time
L552[13:46:30] <Vexatos> i.e. noise
card
L553[13:46:31] <gamax92> yes and?
L554[13:46:33] <Vexatos> not sound
card
L555[13:46:33] <gamax92> no
L556[13:46:35] <gamax92> yes
L557[13:46:37] <Vexatos> I see the value
in the sound card
L558[13:46:39] <gamax92> mmhm
L559[13:46:50] <gamax92> and it has value
in the noise card too
L560[13:46:53] <Vexatos> hmm
L561[13:47:44] <Inari> help :|
L562[13:47:47] <Vexatos> but then I'd have
to add back the custom handling for AudioType.Noise you have been
using
L563[13:47:51] <Vexatos> instead of my new
system
L564[13:47:51] <gamax92> I don't know why
you "have to add it to AudioType again D:", you literally
cannot do anything like: if (this is noise then do noise
things)
L565[13:47:57] <Vexatos> yes
L566[13:48:04] <gamax92> you can, that's
bullshit.
L567[13:48:18] <Vexatos> Yes yes
L568[13:48:19] <Vexatos> but
remember
L569[13:48:21] <gamax92> no
L570[13:48:24] <gamax92> shut the fuck and
do it.
L571[13:48:25] <Vexatos> noise card
doesn't work on instructions
L572[13:48:36] <gamax92> who the fuck
cares about the noise card
L573[13:48:41] <gamax92> it can do it's
own thing
L574[13:48:45] <Vexatos> ok then
L575[13:48:48] <gamax92> we were talking
about the soundcard's setWave
L576[13:49:13] <gamax92> just ... noise
card can do noise card things, setWave can work for waveforms and
the noise type, having it all integrated like it was before on the
lua side
L577[13:49:18] <Vexatos>
card.modes.white_noise?
L578[13:49:32] <Vexatos> or just
.noise
L579[13:49:42] <Vexatos> would be
ambiguous due to LFSR noise existing, eh?
L580[13:49:46] <gamax92> probably just
noise, since there aren't other types of noise atm
L581[13:49:47] <gamax92> nah
L582[13:49:50] <Vexatos> hm
L583[13:49:52] <Vexatos> ok
L584[13:50:06] <Vexatos> will hardcode it
to -1
L585[13:50:18] <Vexatos> so
card.modes.noise will return that+
L586[13:50:47] <Inari> yeah, i dont get it
xD
L587[13:50:51] <gamax92> Inari: hmm?
L588[13:50:58] <Inari> how to make it
produce sound :P
L589[13:51:23] <gamax92> setWave, open,
delay, process
L590[13:51:34] <Vexatos> step 1: Download
gamax' songplayer.lua
L591[13:51:37] <Vexatos> oh wait
L592[13:51:47] <gamax92> you're the only
other person who has that atm :P
L593[13:51:52] <Inari> nothing
happens
L594[13:51:53] <Inari> :<
L595[13:52:00] *
gamax92 fires up MC
L597[13:53:21] <gamax92> good ol MaryTTS
spamming the console with it's logging output <3
L598[13:53:40] <Vexatos> <3
L599[13:53:44] <Vexatos> gotta love
her
L600[13:54:49] <gamax92> oh ... I
wonder.
L601[13:55:29] <Vexatos> how would I call
the LFSR parameters >_>
L602[13:56:34] <gamax92> Inari: looking
into it
L603[13:56:41] <gamax92> that is
problematic
L604[13:56:58] <Vexatos> hm uh, should I
call card.modes .modes?
L605[13:57:00] <Vexatos> isn't that
L606[13:57:00] <Vexatos> uuh
L607[13:57:01] <Vexatos> hmm
L608[13:59:24]
<
Snapples> Heya
L609[13:59:55]
<
Snapples> How's the "current
releases" coming along?
L610[14:00:06] <Vexatos> it's quite
hard
L611[14:00:14] <Vexatos> to give those
three numbers a definite name >_>
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L613[14:00:39] <gamax92> but why is it
doing this ...
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L615[14:06:31] <gamax92> Inari: think I
know why, fix soon
L616[14:06:37] <Inari> why :f
L617[14:07:11] <Vexatos> yes gamax92, why
would you ever fix it
L618[14:07:31] <gamax92> so that Inari can
hear the wonderful beeps
L619[14:07:44] <Inari> as in
L620[14:07:48] <Inari> why is it
broke
L621[14:07:48] <Inari> :P
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L623[14:13:29] <gamax92> okay
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L625[14:14:03] <gamax92> Vexatos: in
SoundCardPlaybackManager, the third parameter in create has to be
below 0
L626[14:14:12] <gamax92> -1 works
L627[14:14:45] <gamax92> unnecessary
latency and prevents you from toying with it manually
L628[14:14:58] <g> hmm, openblocks
sprinkler config doesn't seem to actually apply..
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L630[14:15:53] <gamax92> I should test
this on a server
L631[14:19:00] <Inari> what create
L632[14:19:01] <Inari> what
L633[14:19:26] <Vexatos> gamax92, we also
still need sane defaults for queue and delay max
L634[14:19:27] <Vexatos> >_>
L635[14:19:58] <gamax92> Vexatos: hence my
testing it on a server
L636[14:20:13] <gamax92> need to see how
intense stuff really is (could just manually calculate it too I
guess?)
L637[14:20:16] <Vexatos> ok fixed
L638[14:20:31] <Vexatos> now I need good
names for the three parameters of setLFSR
L639[14:21:12] <gamax92> length, initial,
xorbits
L640[14:21:14] *
gamax92 shrugs
L641[14:21:39] <Inari> gamax92: talk to me
D:
L642[14:21:49] <gamax92> Inari: I guess
you'll need a new jar too
L643[14:21:58] <gamax92> Vexatos: will
those show up in the /dev/ folder with the fix?
L644[14:22:03] <Inari> ~.~
L645[14:22:12] <gamax92> Inari:
what.
L646[14:22:16] <Vexatos> gamax92, once I
add LFSR, yes
L647[14:22:19] <Vexatos> >_>
L648[14:22:20] <Inari> gamax92: whats
broken
L649[14:22:22] <Vexatos> Well, I did add
it
L650[14:22:25] <Vexatos> I just need to
document it
L651[14:22:29] <Vexatos> with sane
parameter names
L652[14:22:31] <Vexatos> all that's
left
L653[14:22:31] <Vexatos> >_>
L654[14:22:45] <Vexatos> because v,a,p is
not sane
L655[14:22:47] <gamax92> Inari: it was
waiting for atleast 2/3/(it-was-broken) number of packets before it
would play
L656[14:23:01] <gamax92> and doing it
manually means you're likely to hit the 250ms no data timeout and
it drops all the packets
L657[14:23:04] <Inari> so i have to add
more/
L658[14:23:12] <Inari> wat :P
L659[14:23:29] <gamax92> the sound card
has to return to an idle state if it's not being used
L660[14:23:53] <Inari> why would it drop
the data Oo
L661[14:24:18] <gamax92> cause
StreamingPlaybackManager :P
L662[14:24:36] <Inari> but
L663[14:24:39] <Inari> its just stroring
the instructiosn
L664[14:25:11] <gamax92> don't worry, if
it was actually playing something then it'll have finished playing
everything it had, if it wasn't playing, then it would have dropped
packets
L665[14:25:23] <gamax92> the change I gave
Vexatos makes it so that it'll play on the first packet and drop
nothing
L666[14:25:39] <Inari> still makes no
sense
L667[14:25:40] <Inari> but k :P
L669[14:26:17] <gamax92> change should
still work fine because the server sends packets ahead of time to
keep the client's buffer going
L670[14:26:39] <gamax92> Inari: why not
just s.delay(3000) ?
L671[14:26:48] <Inari> dunno, cause yout
said it watns 2-3 packets :P
L672[14:26:51] <Inari> and 1 dleay migth
be 1
L673[14:26:51] <Inari> :3
L674[14:26:53] <gamax92> those don't make
packets
L675[14:26:56] <gamax92> process makes
packets
L676[14:27:19] <Inari> so i call mprocess
3 times or what
L677[14:27:45] <gamax92> yeah, with a
delay between them, since it's won't send out packets that have no
instructions
L678[14:28:27] <gamax92> eitherway i was
doing that and it was still acting stupid, so probably best to just
wait for Vexatos's jar
L679[14:28:37] <Inari> :P
L680[14:28:44] <Inari> i like how noone
tested just playing a sound
L681[14:28:44] <Inari> o.o
L682[14:30:30] <gamax92> well I did in the
beginning, but that was before the move to the streaming
player
L683[14:30:46] <gamax92> then never really
tested that itself since I had a songplayer built up
L684[14:30:55] <Inari> gimme :D
L685[14:31:03] <gamax92> sure
L686[14:31:18] <gamax92> lemme just go
through it and slap the appropriate headers on these songs
L687[14:31:27] <Inari> what songs :f
L688[14:31:41] <gamax92> random
songs
L689[14:31:53] <Inari> but iw anna play my
own D:
L690[14:31:59] <Inari> cant it just play
ogg :P
L691[14:32:09] <gamax92> no?
L692[14:32:12] <Inari> meh
L694[14:32:21] <gamax92> Inari: if you
want to play an ogg use the tape drive
L695[14:32:27] <Inari> nah
L696[14:32:29] <Inari> that sucks in
quality
L697[14:32:30] <Inari> :D
L698[14:33:08] <Inari> whats the point of
a songplayer thent hough? you can always say "just use a
tapedrive"
L699[14:33:24] <gamax92> smaller?
L700[14:33:35] <Vexatos> 1) it's a sound
card. That's awesome.
L701[14:33:37] <Vexatos> 2) quality
L702[14:33:41] <gamax92> and that
L703[14:33:48] <Inari> so basically what i
just said
L704[14:33:49] <gamax92> tape drive will
always give you hissing
L705[14:33:53] <gamax92> sound card can be
clean
L706[14:33:58] <Inari> then why would i
use a tapedrive fro ogg
L707[14:34:18] <gamax92> because the
quality of trying to reproduce a generic using the sound card would
be worse
L708[14:34:30] <gamax92> instead of
composing something that works well with the sound card
L709[14:34:39] <Inari> then its kind of a
bad soundcard :|
L710[14:34:48] <gamax92> nah, you're a bad
musician
L711[14:34:54] <Vexatos> (like me)
L712[14:34:58] <Inari> nah, ijust have
songs I like :p
L713[14:35:01] <Vexatos> acutally, I am a
decent musician
L714[14:35:07] <Vexatos> but I am a bad
sound engineer :>
L715[14:35:52] <gamax92> sound card gives
hiss free audio, amount of bytes to store something is lower
L716[14:39:29] <Inari> wonder what use
soundcard would have in gameplay too
L717[14:39:31] <Inari> past like
L718[14:39:31] <Inari> alarms
L719[14:39:48] <Inari> hm i guess GUI
noises and such may be nice
L720[14:41:38] <Vexatos> what use?
L721[14:41:40] <Vexatos> What
L722[14:41:41] <Vexatos> use?
L723[14:41:51] <Inari> yeah?
L724[14:41:56] <Vexatos> You see,
"art" is defined as everything useless :P
L725[14:42:06] <Vexatos> it's good to have
nonetheless :P
L726[14:42:08] <Inari> well an im asking
for a use besides "art"
L727[14:42:23] <Inari> as indicated by
"gameplay"
L728[14:42:27] <Inari> as art doesnt
contribute to the game
L729[14:42:29] <Vexatos> well what use do
IRL sound cards have
L730[14:42:37] <Inari> playing songs
L731[14:42:39] <Inari> which this
cant
L732[14:42:40] <Inari> :f
L733[14:42:54] <gamax92> doesn't the noise
card suffer-ish from the same timing issues as the first iteration
of the sound card?
L734[14:42:56] <Inari> game audio, video
audio
L735[14:43:04] <Inari> buts ince OC is
pretty terrible at both playing videos and at games
L736[14:43:05] <Inari> ... yeah :p
L737[14:43:07] <gamax92> >_> Inari
you're retarded.
L738[14:43:20] <Inari> lol
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L740[14:43:40] <xarses> we don't need to
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L741[14:43:48] <xarses> just call him
stupid
L742[14:43:48] <Inari> *her :f
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L744[14:43:53] <xarses> oh, sorry
L745[14:44:01] <Inari> gamax92: well its
the truth
L746[14:44:15] <gamax92> not really
L747[14:44:27] <Inari> songplayers are
nice and fancy, and it can be fun to make them, sure
L748[14:44:32] <Inari> but they dont
contribute anythign to gameplay
L749[14:44:42] <Inari> just like how that
bad apple video was nice adn fancy
L750[14:44:42] <gamax92> all you are doing
is resorting to fallacies
L751[14:44:45] <Inari> but pure
novelty
L752[14:45:21] <Inari> fallacies would
imply im trying to argue :P rather im asking for a use in an area
of what I define as "gameplay related"
L753[14:45:35] <gamax92> just because it
can't play your song because it's not designed to be played back on
such a device doesn't mean it can't play songs
L754[14:45:45] <gamax92> it obviously can
still reproduce some music
L755[14:45:50] <Inari> well it cant play
songs real soundcards play
L756[14:46:03] <xarses> hrm, when a
function returns multiple values, can I make it stuff it into a
table so I don't have to keep track of it (debug coding, wouldn't
use it long term)
L757[14:46:09] <Inari> not that it
matters, as it kind of falls outside the range of gameplay
usage
L758[14:46:13] <Vexatos> Inari, tape drive
is similarly useless
L759[14:46:15] <gamax92> gameplay related?
well you can use it for sound effects and higher quality music
music
L760[14:46:17] <Vexatos> well, its DFPWM
feature.
L761[14:46:24] <Inari> xarses: yeah
L762[14:46:31] <Inari> local myTable =
{blah()}
L763[14:46:42] <Vexatos> why can the tape
drive even play music? It doesn't contribute to the game at all
RIGHT
L764[14:46:45] <xarses> oh, that looks
weird
L765[14:46:46] <xarses> ok
L766[14:47:02] <Inari> Vexatos: im still
not saying there cant be things that arent gameplay related
L767[14:47:08] <Inari> however, iam
currently asking for a gameplay related usage
L768[14:47:11] <xarses> that will be
helpful
L769[14:47:44] <gamax92> Inari: plus
you're only thinking of modern cards, which don't make sense in
context of OC
L770[14:48:17] <xarses> Inari:
thanks
L772[14:48:29] <MichiBot>
OPL3 Music -
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Yukiko
L773[14:48:42] *
xarses breaks out his soundbalster 16
L774[14:48:46] <gamax92> xarses: :)
L775[14:49:08] *
xarses breaks out the midi player
L776[14:49:13] <gamax92> :(
L777[14:49:23] <Inari> well before modern
cards people just used something else to listen to music :P
L778[14:49:26] <gamax92> Cheap midi to
opl3 conversion D:<
L779[14:49:30] <Inari> anyway
L780[14:49:36] <Inari> it completely
doesnt matter x.x
L781[14:49:40] <Inari> so im not sure why
we're discussing this
L782[14:50:26] *
xarses goes back to automating his base with motion
sensors
L783[14:50:30] <gamax92> Inari: can you
accept that you're stupid then? :D
L784[14:50:49] <Inari> no?
L785[14:51:08] <Inari> i have no use for
such music, outside of maybe OC games, which i already
addressed
L786[14:54:42] <Vexatos> gamax92, you seen
my LFSR function I linked?
L787[14:55:15] <gamax92> Vexatos: no,
linky again?
L789[14:56:33] <gamax92> vap? :P
L790[14:57:36] <gamax92> uhhhhhhh
L791[14:58:18] <gamax92> uhhh....
L792[14:58:30] <gamax92> Vexatos: I don't
think this works at all :|
L793[14:58:46] <gamax92> it doesn't look
like it should
L794[14:59:16] <Vexatos> it's the exact
algorithm that greaser suggested
L795[15:00:04] <gamax92> still
though
L796[15:02:31] *
Vexatos throws new
gregtech.api.util.GT_ItsNotMyFaultException();
L797[15:06:28] *
xarses catches it and beats you with it
L798[15:07:47] <xarses> which of my bug
reports will raise this error?
L799[15:15:38] <Vexatos> gamax92, wat do
instead
L800[15:15:58] <gamax92> Vexatos: am
investigating
L801[15:18:25] *
gamax92 checks if correct algo gives same output as greaser
algo
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L803[15:23:55] <gamax92> Vexatos: the
thing that's super confusing about what greaser gave is that ... it
checks if the last bit is a 1, and then does an xor of
0x9000?
L804[15:25:21] <gamax92> which doesn't
seem right at all, that's not an LFSR
L805[15:25:30] <Vexatos> apparently it
shifts it over one... and inverts specific bits?
L806[15:25:45] <Vexatos> or rather,
xors
L807[15:26:34] <gamax92> mmhm, but an LFSR
would shift it over by one, but then set the highest bit (15th
iirc) to the xor of certain bits
L808[15:28:49] <Vexatos> complain at
greaser <3
L809[15:29:03] <gamax92> Vexatos: I'll
just complain at you and have you implement the correct thing
:|
L810[15:32:15] <Vexatos> whichever
works
L811[15:32:18] <Vexatos> GreaseMonkey,
wake up
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L814[15:35:49] <gamax92> Vexatos: what's
the current class file look like atm?
L815[15:35:57] <gamax92> so I know what to
work with
L816[15:36:05] <Vexatos> I can push the
nonworking one if you want
L817[15:36:11] <gamax92> don't push
L818[15:36:16] <gamax92> just put it in a
paste :|
L819[15:37:04] <Vexatos> k
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L822[15:39:03] <gamax92> I only needed the
LFSR part but okay :P
L823[15:40:55] <Vexatos> But I already
gave that to you
L824[15:40:57] <Vexatos> twice by
now
L825[15:40:57] <Vexatos> ._.
L827[15:41:08] <gamax92> I haven't been
listening .-.
L829[15:41:13] <Vexatos> okay?
L830[15:41:15] <Vexatos> :|
L831[15:41:21] <gamax92> :c
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L833[15:57:21] <gamax92> Vexatos: ... nvm
mind me ...
L834[15:57:36] <gamax92> how even does
this work, it's written so strangely.
L835[15:57:54] <gamax92> but it's actually
oddly correct
L836[15:58:44] <gamax92> why would
inverting the top bits work instead of checking the lower
bits
L837[15:59:59] *
vifino is slowly falling asleep on Lizzy
L838[16:00:20] <gamax92> why the fuck does
this work it's so weird
L839[16:01:29] <gamax92> it's not at all
an LFSR but it'll give the same results as one
L840[16:02:17] <gamax92> just that as an
LFSR you'd be masking off 0x9 but in whatever that is you do a
order reversed mask, which gives 0x9000
L841[16:04:13] <gamax92> ahhhh, it's a
Galois LFSR, not a Fibonacci LFSR
L842[16:05:12] *
Lizzy pets vifino
L843[16:05:24] *
vifino purrs
L844[16:05:34] <gamax92> not conventional
at all but it'll work
L845[16:06:25] <gamax92> I'm going to take
a break now I feel bad
L846[16:06:34] <gamax92> Vexatos: that'll
work just fine
L847[16:06:50] <Vexatos> ok
L848[16:08:54] <gamax92> I wish I'd known
about those types of LFSR's they look a hell of a lot simpler then
the normal ones, just a slightly different masking parameter.
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L850[16:09:34] <Vexatos> gamax92, what
should I name the three parameters
L851[16:09:48] <Vexatos> initial, length
and mask?
L852[16:09:50] <Vexatos> Hmm
L853[16:09:54] <gamax92> sure
L854[16:10:00] <gamax92> period can also
be replaced for length
L855[16:10:03] <Vexatos> yes
L856[16:10:12] <gamax92> tap/mask, those
are also terms
L857[16:10:25] <Vexatos> so initial,
period, tap
L858[16:10:25] <Vexatos> ?
L859[16:10:26] <gamax92> but it's not a
tap .-.
L860[16:10:29] <Vexatos> not really
L861[16:10:38] <Vexatos> it's an xor
applied to the entire value
L862[16:10:41] <Vexatos> sooo
L863[16:10:47] <gamax92> tap is a term
that works with the normal style of LFSR not that kind
L864[16:10:56] <Vexatos> mask it is,
then
L865[16:11:04] <gamax92> yeah I
guess
L866[16:11:09] <gamax92> an xor mask,
that'll work
L867[16:15:19] <Antheus> I've owned
minecraft since 2011, and have never once made it to the end
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L869[16:21:05] <Vexatos> gamax92, hmm the
delay parameter in soundcardpacket isn't used at all?
L870[16:23:01] <gamax92> right, it doesn't
need that anymore
L871[16:25:38] <Vexatos> so now it sends
the entire instr queue at once
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L874[16:28:25] <Vexatos> want a
build?
L875[16:29:21] <gamax92> I can build
myself :P
L876[16:30:30] <gamax92> Vexatos: why'd he
want a look up table again? did he think a couple of xor's were too
cpu intensive?
L877[16:31:24] <Vexatos> well wouldn't you
have to xor up until your current point in the loop?
L878[16:31:55] <gamax92> Vexatos:
no?
L879[16:31:59] <Vexatos> also uuh, should
v be an int or actually a byte
L880[16:32:00] <Vexatos> not sure
L881[16:32:04] <gamax92> int
L882[16:32:08] <Vexatos> ok
L883[16:32:18] <gamax92> SMS had 16bit
LFSR, byte would be too little
L884[16:32:32] <Vexatos> short is
16-bit
L885[16:32:50] <gamax92> oh, I forgot to
mention problem to you though.
L886[16:33:14] <gamax92> you have to do
all of the this.blah = blah before you fill the noise table
L887[16:33:21] <gamax92> since that
algorithm modifies v
L888[16:33:23] <Vexatos> duh
L889[16:33:59] <Vexatos> fixed
L890[16:34:03] <Vexatos> so uuh
L891[16:34:06] <Vexatos> want to try it?
>_>
L892[16:34:17] <gamax92> no, shush I'm
trying to explain things to you
L893[16:34:21] <Vexatos> ok
L894[16:35:03] <gamax92> you wouldn't have
to keep doing an xor exponentially, it would be like one iteration
of that algorithm once per generate()
L895[16:35:20] <gamax92> just that you
don't store it in a table you just return it
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L897[16:36:07] <gamax92> and then drop the
period variable ofc
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L900[16:37:13] <gamax92> only reason I
could see specifying the period variable would be to prematurely
cut the LFSR's loop to get something that's more repeating, like an
engine sound maybe
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L902[16:37:39] <Vexaton> the second time
this happened today
L903[16:37:43] <Vexaton> screen turned
black
L904[16:37:47] <Vexaton> but was still
lit
L905[16:37:55] <Vexaton> mouse and
keyboard input stopped working
L906[16:37:59] <Vexaton> what the
hecl
L907[16:38:10] <gamax92> otherwise if you
wanted anything higher than 16 bits size, you end up generating a
noise table that takes up taking way too much memory
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L910[16:39:01] <Vexatos> :X
L911[16:39:14] <gamax92> a repeating thing
could be made by using a smaller LFSR size though, no need to
specify the period for that
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L913[16:44:49] <gamax92> #lua 2^16
L914[16:44:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
65536.0
L915[16:44:51] <gamax92> #lua 2^12
L916[16:44:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
4096.0
L917[16:46:47] <gamax92> Vexatos: I wanna
say to kill the period?
L918[16:47:02] <gamax92> I don't think a
table is necessary
L919[16:48:01] <gamax92> yeah it's not at
all necessary, running at 44100 and the cpu usage is like
0.3%
L920[16:49:02] <Vexatos> well what would I
replace it with
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L923[16:53:33] <gamax92> erm, why is
noiseOutput there
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L925[16:54:11] <Vexatos> uh, do you want
an "int v = value;" at the start of generate?
L926[16:54:25] <gamax92> did I forget to
update the names
L927[16:54:26] <Vexatos> oh wait
L928[16:54:26] <Vexatos> no
L929[16:54:33] <Vexatos> value just
shouldn't be final, right?
L930[16:54:47] <gamax92> I did forget to,
oops, and value should not be final
L931[16:54:48] <Vexatos> ...something is
wrong
L932[16:55:44] <Vexatos> >>>=
best operator
L934[16:57:08] <Vexatos> so value nonfinal
and change v to value
L935[16:57:27] <gamax92> yeah
L937[16:58:14] <gamax92> value can stay an
int, 16 bits can loop rather fast
L938[16:58:50] <Vexatos> k
L939[16:58:58] <gamax92> yeh :3
L940[16:59:00] <Vexatos> private
BigInteger value;
L941[16:59:04] <gamax92> lol no.
L942[16:59:19] <gamax92> the period is
2^numberofbits
L943[16:59:25] <Vexatos> yes
L944[16:59:40] <Vexatos> obviously
L945[16:59:55] <gamax92> theoretically
anyway, SMS's LFSR uses a bad mask that doesn't give a full
range
L946[17:00:14] <gamax92> hence the 57337
greaser gave you
L947[17:00:21] <Vexatos> but this doesn't
seem like the one greaser requested, he said something about
jumping around in the array
L948[17:00:53] <gamax92> he said something
about the Master system and that's what the Master system
does
L949[17:01:11] <Vexatos> well this now is
a 2^32 loop, no?
L950[17:01:17] <gamax92> no
L951[17:01:28] <Vexatos> oh wait
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L953[17:01:30] <Vexatos> this is not
+1
L954[17:01:32] <Vexatos> this is
>>> 1
L955[17:01:33] <Vexatos> >_>
L956[17:01:56] <gamax92> that makes me
wonder ... brb more tests
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L959[17:03:13] <gamax92> #lua
tonumber("010010000000",2)
L960[17:03:13] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
1152
L961[17:03:34] <gamax92> #lua
tonumber("10010",2)
L962[17:03:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
18
L963[17:04:58] <gamax92> okay, period
still should be fine
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L966[17:11:55] <gamax92> okay, period
still should be fine
L967[17:12:00] <gamax92> ahh,
clipboard.
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L969[17:13:40] <gamax92> Vexatos: the neat
thing about it is that even a little change in the mask can give a
big difference
L970[17:14:04] <Vexatos> indeed
L971[17:14:13] <Vexatos> since you xor the
entire value every period
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L973[17:14:38] <gamax92> if I use 0x8200
as the mask, I get a period of 434, pretty bad. but 0x8100 gives a
period of 63457
L974[17:14:38] <Vexatos> anyways, quarter
past midnight
L975[17:14:42] <Vexatos> good night
._.
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L989[17:52:10] <gamax92> "it is a GUI
library, not a security library" "Ah, a 'security
library,' because 'security' is, like, some kind of component that
you link in, and then your app is secure, right?"
L990[17:52:42] <CompanionCube> one does
not simply
L991[17:52:48] <CompanionCube> make a
'security library'
L992[17:53:05] <gamax92> second is
insulting the first
L993[17:53:12] <gm|and> layer 8 is a
security risk
L994[17:53:19] <gamax92> oh hey gm
L995[17:54:21] <gm|and> soup
L996[17:54:41] <gamax92> gm|and: I learned
what a Galois LFSR is >_>;
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L998[17:55:31] <gm|and> its basically the
best way to do an lfsr in software
L999[17:55:46] <gamax92> after stabbing at
that little snipplet you gave to Vexatos and trying to figure out
what black magic was behind it because it's not a conventional LFSR
:P
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L1001[17:56:09] <gamax92> can agree, is
much simpler for software
L1002[17:58:56] <gamax92> I wrote a thing
to find solutions to a thing and now to figure out which solution
it came up with is the simplest
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L1004[18:02:08] <gamax92> the minimal
amount of bits to get the full period of a 16bit register is
4
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L1006[18:02:50] <gamax92> the most
highest bit must also be set
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L1011[18:15:02] <LuMistry>
Greetings
L1012[18:15:12] <gamax92> good day
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L1019[18:48:45] <MichiBot>
Console
Wars - PC MASTER RACE | length:
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L1020[18:51:42] <MajGenRelativity>
#PCmasterrace
L1021[18:52:01] <gm|and> agreed
L1022[18:52:14] <gm|and> from grub to
login in 4 seconds
L1023[18:52:33] <gm|and> from enter to
desktop in...
L1024[18:52:34] <gm|and> stantly
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L1026[18:56:46] <S3> ok so
L1027[18:56:50] <S3> oh hey
MajGenRelativity
L1028[18:57:03] <MajGenRelativity>
hello
L1029[18:58:13] <MajGenRelativity> I wish
I had a less bad flash drive
L1030[18:58:21] <MajGenRelativity> it's
pretty slow
L1031[18:59:11] <S3> what'd you do to
it?
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L1034[19:05:27] <MajGenRelativity> S3,
nothing
L1035[19:05:30] <MajGenRelativity> it's
just old
L1036[19:05:38] <S3> electronics don't
get old!
L1037[19:05:41] <S3> is it usb 2.0?
L1038[19:06:23] <MajGenRelativity> I
honestly have no clue XD
L1039[19:06:25] <MajGenRelativity>
probably
L1040[19:06:31] <gm|and> once i find a
place to mount it my new pc will have a pc speaker ripped from my
2001ish minitower
L1041[19:08:27] <gamax92> gm|and: heh, I
just did the same, found an old pc-speaker, found a place to mount
it and now it's installed
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L1045[19:13:52] <gm|and> i do like my new
rig, it can raytrace even more realtime
L1046[19:15:41] <gm|and> also got
mesa-git installed so i now have GL 4.2 support
L1047[19:16:07] <gm|and> theres basically
6 extensions left for full GL4.5 support
L1048[19:17:23] <MajGenRelativity>
gm|and, what do you have for graphics?
L1049[19:17:44] <gm|and> HD 530
L1050[19:17:58] <gm|and> i have provision
for a dedicated card
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L1053[19:25:02] <gamax92> cool, vexatos
did not test this and white noise is not selectable now
L1054[19:25:25] <MajGenRelativity>
gm|and, i have HD 4600
L1055[19:25:33] <MajGenRelativity> do you
mean 5300, or 530?
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L1063[19:33:46] <gamax92> cool, noise is
also too quiet, but not sure if that's my fault
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L1067[19:41:19] <gamax92> payonel:
poke
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L1069[19:47:34] <gamax92> d
L1070[19:47:39] <gamax92> D: term
bug
L1071[19:47:46] *
gamax92 pokes payonel rapidly
L1072[19:48:41] <gamax92> %tell payonel
tab autocomplete doesn't put the cursor in the right place if data
was after the cursor, also it destroys the data after the
cursor
L1073[19:48:44] <MichiBot> gamax92:
payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1080[20:21:53] <payonel> hi
L1081[20:22:00] <Antheus> howdy
L1082[20:23:18] <payonel> gamax92: that
was an area i didn't give high priority. last i checked it was
somewhat working. and it wasn't deleting chars after the
cursor
L1083[20:24:46] <payonel> gamax92: can
you give me a test case? like, `ca| foo.bar` where | is the cursor,
and <tab> should result in `cat | foo.bar`
L1084[20:25:06] <gamax92> well I was in
the lua prompt
L1085[20:25:10] <payonel> oh that
L1086[20:25:20] <payonel> yeah, i didn't
do anything for lua prompt
L1087[20:25:56] <payonel> it only uses
term.read, and supplies its own hint table. /lib/sh does the
mid-line tab complete magic
L1088[20:26:38] <payonel> but what is the
wrong place you speak of "if data was after the cursor"
?
L1089[20:29:35] <gamax92> it deletes the
stuff after the end and then puts the cursor not at the end of the
completed stuff
L1090[20:30:14] <gamax92> the cursor gets
put back (amount of data after cursor - 1)
L1091[20:31:53] <payonel> i see. like
`variab| = 123` => `variab|le` (or `varia|ble`)
L1092[20:32:37] <payonel> i have to go
afk for a bit
L1093[20:32:43] <payonel> i'll test this
later and look at a fix
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L1116[22:44:36] <TYKUHN2> Came up with an
interesting challenge if anyone is interested
L1117[22:45:32] <TYKUHN2> I have a BIOS
that reads at an offset but I realized that the code it reads on an
unmanaged harddrive (tested and works) can be inside the offset. I
want to see someone with too much spare time do this :)
L1118[22:46:00] <TYKUHN2> Of course the
rule is all bytes of the harddrive must be filled :)
L1119[22:46:58] <TYKUHN2> Not
particularly hard but I have other things to make :)
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L1127[23:20:46] <Lymia> Explain?
L1128[23:23:03] <v^> ._. Lymia is in #oc
now?
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