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L10[00:39:55] <gamax92> Vexatos: ran into
another road block with MaryTTS
L11[00:40:57] <Vexatos> mary sure has a few
of those
L12[00:41:37] <gamax92> Vexatos: well, in
log4j 1.x, theres Logger.getEffectiveLevel
L13[00:42:15] <gamax92> 2.X .... has no
equivalent? I looked at the 1.X to 2.X upgrade page and that told
me to look for Logger.getLevel, that doesn't exist
L14[00:42:31] <gamax92> attempts to replace
it are also resulting in ASM crashing
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L16[00:42:57] <Vexatos> ._.
L17[00:43:16] <Vexatos> hmm
L18[00:43:19] <Vexatos> now that this thing
is done
L19[00:43:26] <Vexatos> I guess I'll merge
soundcard branch in O:
L20[00:43:28] <Vexatos> exciting!
L21[00:43:34] <gamax92> plus that
EmotionmlParser thing is still not working, all I did was just
bypass it to try to get more progress
L22[00:43:51] <gamax92> which, that seems
to be the only thing preventing it from starting it up
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L26[00:53:54] <gamax92> Vexatos: I do
wonder if it's because the log4j 2.X that's in minecraft is
horribly outdated itself
L27[00:59:27] <gamax92> no matter, is just
a job for krakatau
L28[01:11:54] <Vexatos> woop, ported to
1.8
L29[01:12:00] <Vexatos> 1.9 port will come
after uni
L30[01:12:04] <Vexatos> ._.
L31[01:12:05] <Vexatos> bye now
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L36[01:12:31] <MichiBot> Wed May 18
20:12:10 CDT 2016 @creeper92072: @MyNameIsKodos @Direwolf20
opencomputers is a straight up copy of cc
L37[01:12:33] <Kodos> s/who/how
L39[01:12:55] <Kodos> I can't even words,
my brain is full of fuck
L40[01:19:01] <snowden89> confused retarded
cause he does not know the level of awesome of OC compared to
CC?
L41[01:19:10] <Cruor> Kodos: ill agree on
s/is/was/ :I
L42[01:20:22] <Cruor> are you sure you want
direwolf to destroy the world with OC?
L43[01:20:31] <Cruor> im sure the button
api was ;_; enough for CC
L44[01:20:32] <Kodos> Cruor, you planning
on playing Chronicle when it hits Steam next week
L45[01:20:43] <Cruor> chronicle as in, rs
legends? :I
L46[01:20:47] <Kodos> Yes
L47[01:20:54] <Kodos> As soon as I get a
new GPU, I plan to start it
L48[01:20:56] <snowden89> rs legends?
L49[01:21:01] <Kodos> Runescape CCG
L50[01:21:06] <Kodos> Free to play on Steam
next week
L51[01:21:08] <Cruor> had closed beta
access since one of the first key rounds :p
L52[01:21:15] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L53[01:21:39] <Cruor> but it came out like
a month ago? o_O
L54[01:21:53] <snowden89> ccg?
L55[01:21:58] <Cruor> card collecting
game
L56[01:22:04] <snowden89> oh ok
L58[01:22:17] <snowden89> thought it was
there new thing made in c++ or something
L59[01:22:19] <Cruor> open beta, my
bad
L60[01:22:24] <Kodos> Customizable Card
Game, too
L61[01:22:36] <Kodos> Also has anyone tried
the new snapshot
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L63[01:22:50] <Cruor> watched videos on
it
L64[01:22:58] <Cruor> all hail the new
polar bear overlords
L65[01:23:41] <gamax92> all hail
Cruor
L66[01:23:47] <Cruor> Kodos: chronicles is
pretty interesting btw, if you havent checked it out yet :p
L67[01:23:48] <gamax92> \o/
L68[01:24:01] <Kodos> I haven't. I tried
to, but my computer is sooo slow
L69[01:24:23] <Cruor> wait, you are telling
me you need a decent computer to play it? o_o
L71[01:26:20] <Kodos> Cruor, I'm on
integrated graphics
L72[01:26:47] <Cruor> integrated graphics
arent THAT bad :I
L73[01:26:56] <Kodos> That's also Minimum,
I prefer quality over performance
L74[01:27:13] <Cruor> the recommended reqs
seem absurd to me, its a ccg ffs :I
L75[01:27:48] <Cruor> either way, the
gameplay is quite interesting :p
L76[01:28:02] <Cruor> way more
"planing ahead" than something like hearthstone
L77[01:28:09] <Cruor> which everbody and
their mother seems to compare the game to
L78[01:28:12] <Cruor> for reasons i cant
even
L79[01:30:07] <Kodos> No idea
L80[01:30:08] <Kodos> But
L81[01:30:12] <Kodos> Magma blocks are
weird
L82[01:30:16] <Kodos> Also wtf are strays
and husks
L83[01:30:29] <Cruor> skeleton and zombie
upgrades :p
L84[01:30:34] <gamax92> ooh, according to
Krakatau, I'm just forgetting to remove one instruction ...
L85[01:32:03] <Cruor> Kodos: skeletons have
slowing arrows and zombies dont burn in the sun
L86[01:32:16] <Kodos> Ahh
L87[01:32:41] <Cruor> skeleton spawns in
icelands and zombies in desert(/stained clay land?)
L88[01:35:26] <Cruor> Kodos: i belive
xisuma's video was the most sane :p
L89[01:35:32] <Cruor> that i looked at
atleast
L90[01:35:41] <Kodos> Ofc
L91[01:35:49] <Kodos> I've watched most of
his videos
L92[01:35:55] <gamax92> eyyyy
L93[01:35:57] <gamax92> that worked.
L94[01:36:32] <gamax92> IT SAID A
THING
L95[01:36:54] <gamax92> oh and then it
crashed
L96[01:38:01] <Cruor> gamax92: it
works!
L97[01:38:04] <gamax92> I wonder why the
other voices don't seem to show up, I only got one called
cmu-slt-hsmm
L98[01:38:42] <gamax92> Vexatos will be
pleased
L99[01:38:42] <Kodos> Bless you
L100[01:39:52] <Cruor> gamax92: god bless
the vexatoaster
L102[01:43:34] <MichiBot>
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L105[01:43:52] <MichiBot> gamax92: Vexatos
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L106[01:44:02] <gamax92> lol, I was
wondering which one would come first from MichiBot
L107[01:45:56] <Kodos> Is it only female
that works?
L108[01:46:17] <Kodos> Also assuming you
can fix it and get it working entirely, I can replace the chatbox
with that. What's the audio range on it
L109[01:47:07] <gamax92> it's currently
just playing directly through the speakers disregarding 3D stuff,
since that's how mary's demo works
L110[01:47:34] <gamax92> the goal was to
just get MaryTTS to actually work at all in MC :P
L111[01:47:57] <gamax92> EmotionmlParser
doesn't work, but seems to not be giving issues
L112[01:47:59] <Kodos> Okay, so people on
a server would randomly hear speech then?
L113[01:48:04] <gamax92> Kodos.
L114[01:48:12] <gamax92> this is not a
final product :P
L115[01:48:25] <Kodos> I don't care if
it's final, as long as it's working =P
L116[01:48:44] <gamax92> well it's only
kinda working atm
L117[01:49:44] <gamax92> I had to chuck
out the startup code for EmotionmlParser, hacky replaced calls to
getEffectiveLevel, and plus I need to find a better solution for
the apache commons collections stuff
L118[01:49:59] <gamax92> including the
entire collections lib is kinda dumb if MaryTTS only uses it for
one class
L119[01:50:20] <Cruor> oh god, what is
this tts for :I
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L121[01:50:44] <gamax92> Cruor:
science!
L122[01:50:57] <gamax92> anyway I sleep
now
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L126[01:55:12] <Cruor> wat is this
L127[01:55:31] <Cruor> looks like abstract
art :I
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L129[02:28:39] <Cruor> Kodos: was i
supposed to use this tweeter stuff?
L130[02:28:55] <Cruor> oh wtf i have 3
followers :I
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L133[03:03:45] <Kodos> Welp, looks like
I'm learning Rubyt
L134[03:03:47] <Kodos> Ruby*
L135[03:06:35] <Cruor> Kodos: the language
of 1000 ways to do the same thing? :p
L136[03:06:47] <Kodos> Also the language
of RPG Maker VX Ace
L137[03:06:50] <Kodos> Which I was just
gifted
L138[03:07:42] <Cruor> woah, that is
expensive
L139[03:07:51] <Kodos> I was only given
the base software
L140[03:07:54] <Kodos> No content
packs
L141[03:08:12] <Kodos> But, I hope to see
the ones I want (Most of the scifi shit) go on sale during the
Steam Summer sale
L142[03:08:40] <Temia> man, I remember the
days of Kanjihack and Don Miguel.
L143[03:09:15] <Temia> It's been so long I
can't even remember Don's catchphrase.
L144[03:09:59] <Temia> OH RIGHT. Spiffy, I
think it was
L145[03:10:07] <Cruor> Kodos: isnt there a
default "pack"? :p
L146[03:10:13] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L147[03:10:40] <Temia> If VXA's keeping
with precedent, there should be the RTP, yeah.
L148[03:11:15] <Cruor> so how much do you
script in there?
L149[03:11:23] <Cruor> it seems where GUI
heavy to me
L150[03:11:29] <Cruor> :I wtf crucru
L151[03:11:34] <Temia> Well, there's a
preconfigured engine already installed.
L152[03:11:41] *
Cruor slaps self
L153[03:11:41] *
EnderBot2 chuckles
L154[03:11:45] <Temia> But it can be
modified rather extensively under the hood.
L155[03:11:48] *
Izaya slaps EnderBot2
L156[03:11:48] *
EnderBot2 grabs Ender's Katana and slices Izaya in
half
L157[03:11:57] <Temia> At least, assuming
it's keeping with precedent
L158[03:12:00] *
Izaya slices EnderBot2 in half
L159[03:12:16] <Temia> ...God, I feel
old.
L160[03:12:19] <Cruor> Temia: so you can
like, basicly do wtf you want?
L161[03:12:33] <Temia> More or less.
L162[03:12:47] <Temia> I don't know if you
can hook external libraries or not.
L163[03:13:06] *
Temia just realised RPG Maker 95's probably older than most of the
channel, excluding herself ;_;
L164[03:13:08] <Cruor> im assuming you
have something along the lines of triggers/actions that you can
code the heck out of
L165[03:13:34] <Cruor> Temia: should i
also feel old now? :p
L166[03:13:39] <Temia> Probably.
L167[03:13:47] <Cruor> was a bit scared by
the 95
L168[03:13:52] <Temia> I admit I never dug
into RPG Maker XP and onward -- most of my experience was with
RM2K.
L169[03:13:53] <Cruor> until i saw release
date :p
L170[03:14:36] *
Izaya poked at RPG maker once upon a time
L171[03:14:40] <Temia> It's only a
two-year difference. c.c;
L172[03:15:44] <Cruor> is the fighting
only uhhh, wtf do you even call that
L173[03:15:54] <Cruor> turn based pick
ability thingy :I
L174[03:16:16] <Temia> By default it is,
but the combat engine is also purely in Ruby.
L175[03:17:03] <Cruor> doesnt sound half
bad :o
L176[03:17:05] <Kodos> Not to mention I'm
sure I can find shit online that people don't care if I use
L177[03:17:07] <GreaseMonkey> oh hey,
someone talking about rpg maker
L178[03:17:14] <GreaseMonkey> i think i
exclusively used 2003
L179[03:17:20] <Kodos> Was just gifted VX
Ace, Greaser
L180[03:17:37] <Kodos> Well, it was my
brother, he gave me a key and 4 content packs for it which I likely
won't use for my SdV key
L181[03:17:40] <Kodos> err gift
L182[03:17:42] <Temia> Oh, easily,
Kodos
L183[03:18:06] <Cruor> Kodos: uhh, unless
you release stuff you can just do wtf you want :p
L184[03:18:32] <Temia> I actually still
have the sample games included with RPG Maker 2000 Value! thanks to
a friend's acquisition.
L185[03:18:45] <Temia> They did some
clever stuff for lack of the scripting system that XP and onward
had
L187[03:19:04] <Kodos> Basically my plan
is to make a game, find a way to make it run on Steam, and sell it
for 5 bucks
L188[03:19:17] <Cruor> for when you just
need some damn sprites to get you started
L189[03:19:26] <Kodos> may even go 99
cents
L190[03:19:34] <Kodos> Just want some form
of income going
L191[03:19:42] <Cruor> because using
stickfigures and red blobs of paint spray paint is so motivating to
work with
L192[03:20:16] <Temia> VXA should include
an RTP
L193[03:20:26] <Temia> Even if it doesn't,
Enterbrain's own site probably has it available for download.
L194[03:24:38] <Cruor> Temia: so can you
derp around enough with ruby to not use square tiles? :p
L195[03:24:49] <Temia> ...
L196[03:25:01] <Temia> That I can't
say.
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L201[03:33:43] <Kodos> Already have an
idea for a game :3
L202[03:33:44] <Kodos> brb
L203[03:34:07] <asie> yay, more games
exclusive to a DRM-full platform!
L204[03:37:20] <Temia> I'm pretty sure VX
Ace actually can export games so as to be playable wholly external
to Steam? >.>
L205[03:37:35] <Temia> But one would still
be stuck on Windows. Maybe they'd work on Wine, I dunno :x
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L207[03:38:49] <Temia> anyway if it makes
you feel any better, I'll always be around to write DRM-free games
with open-source engines. <3
L208[03:39:49] <Kodos> Well, VM or w/e the
new RPG Maker is supports multiple platforms, instead of just
windows
L209[03:40:09] <Cruor> Temia: mooengine
2.0? .-.
L210[03:40:38] <Temia> MV,
apparently
L211[03:40:40] <Temia> But that's
cool
L212[03:41:58] <Temia> Oh!
L213[03:42:01] <Temia> Kodos!
L214[03:42:11] <Temia> ...wait, no,
nevermind
L215[03:42:29] <Temia> VX Ace abandoned
MIDIs outright, didn't it
L216[03:44:21] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L217[03:44:46] <Kodos> All I know, is I'm
gonna work on a basic game (1 level, with one fight, etc) to get an
idea of how to use this thing
L218[03:45:03] <Kodos> Then after the
steam sale, I'll use whatever packs I end up getting (Wishlisted
the ones I want) and make a proper game
L219[03:45:35] <Cruor> Kodos: magical
girls or riot
L220[03:45:40] <Temia> Sounds good.
L221[03:45:46] <Temia> Experimenting is
always a good way to learn.
L222[03:46:31] *
Temia sighs. Misses the innocent days of playing in RPG Maker 2000,
devising strategy game engines or assembling her own party
selection system .-.
L223[03:46:54] <Cruor> would writing a NN
to play tictactoe be a waste of time? :p
L224[03:47:03] <Cruor> or would it be a
somewhat sane learning experience
L225[03:47:55] <Temia> It's almost 2 AM
for me. I'm going to call it a night.
L226[04:08:45] <Izaya> sleep well or
something
L227[04:11:06] <asie> Sangar: If you're
curious, the "drama" module is a port of the Drama
Generator
L228[04:11:08] <asie> made just to win a
$10 bet
L229[04:11:53] <Cruor> what is the deal
with starting paragraphs with a oversized fancy letter :I
L230[04:12:22] <asie> TRADITION
L232[04:18:15] *
Cruor bows down to css3 overlords
L233[04:18:26] <asie> yes, css3 is
amazing
L235[04:18:58] <Cruor> oh jesus christ
XD
L237[04:19:11] <asie> looks much better on
IE4
L238[04:19:30] <Cruor> transform rotate is
killing me XD
L239[04:20:04] <Cruor> im expecting these
trumpets or whatever to be ::befores :I
L240[04:20:10] <Cruor> oh
L241[04:20:16] <Cruor> list-style-image,
thats nice :I
L242[04:20:24] <Cruor> css3 is amazing
:p
L243[04:21:03] <Kodos> asie, I'm surprised
you haven't asked me for #betterthanminecon yet
L244[04:21:33] <Kodos> Or told me how to
set forwards on it
L245[04:21:41] <asie> Kodos: i haven't
asked anyone
L246[04:21:45] <asie> except
neptunepink
L247[04:21:56] <Kodos> I mean the irc
channel
L249[04:22:03] <asie> we're in #BTM
L250[04:22:04] <asie> have been since last
con lol
L251[04:22:08] <Kodos> lel
L252[04:22:27] <Cruor> asie: so much
better in IE :I
L253[04:22:30] <asie> Cruor: indeed
L254[04:22:32] <Kodos> Well tell me how to
do a +f properly, and I'll set that up with it, and #btm16
too
L255[04:22:34] <asie> that's why it
recommends it!
L256[04:22:36] <Cruor> so how does it play
sound?
L257[04:22:40] <asie> Cruor:
<audio>
L258[04:22:40] <Cruor> i havent played
around with that :p
L259[04:22:43] <Cruor> ah
L260[04:22:44] <asie> in IE4, it
doesn't
L261[04:22:50] <asie> but that's because
it's best viewed on IE4
L262[04:23:12] <Cruor> why does it have
two sources?
L263[04:23:23] <asie> not all browsers
support OGG
L264[04:23:25] <Cruor> does it play both,
or use the first it can use?
L265[04:23:27] <asie> and not all browsers
support MP3
L266[04:23:41] <asie> but supporting both
covers almost every browser
L267[04:23:51] <Cruor> hmm, that was
easier than expected :p
L268[04:24:03] <Cruor> would you need js
to make it play on button press or whatever
L269[04:24:09] <Cruor> or can you hack in
some css style? XD
L270[04:24:17] <asie> >button
press
L271[04:24:20] <asie> that's not
L272[04:24:28] <Cruor> sliders :>
L273[04:24:40] <Cruor> these radiobuttons
are the most broken css tool ever
L274[04:26:14] <Cruor> asie: have you not
done blackmagic with radiobuttons and css? :<
L276[04:27:17] <Cruor> or checkboxes, or
whatever you decide to use for black magic
L277[04:34:52] <Kodos> Someone should make
a subreddit for helping others to remember (long) forgotten mods,
called /r/tipofmypickaxe
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L280[04:49:36] <Cruor> Kodos: make game
you silly
L281[04:49:49] <Kodos> I've been working
on sprites
L282[04:52:07] <Cruor> Kodos: this is good
:I
L283[04:53:10] <Cruor> Kodos: will it have
magical girls?
L284[04:53:34] <Kodos> Magical Girl will
be the final boss of my test game
L285[04:54:01] <Cruor> will she fire a
huge laz0r?
L286[04:54:38] <Kodos> Dunno, I have no
idea what the software is capable of
L287[04:54:57] <Kodos> For now tho, I'ma
take a break and go play xbox
L288[04:54:58] <Kodos> Ta
L289[05:03:53] <Skye> Kodos: wat
L290[05:16:01] <Cruor> Skye: black
magic
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L297[05:33:52] <Cruor> Izaya: needs more
transform rotate
L298[05:33:56] <Cruor> atleast 10
degrees
L299[05:34:30] *
Izaya rotates Cruor
L300[05:34:59] <Cruor> that color theme is
nice :I
L301[05:35:13] <Lizzy> Izaya: not enough
mr
L302[05:35:15] <Lizzy> Me*
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L304[05:35:21] <Lizzy> Fucking phone
L305[05:35:41] <Izaya> does TDIC have an
actual site yet?
L306[05:36:19] <Lizzy> Not as such, I need
to redo my site
L307[05:36:32] *
Lizzy is lazy
L308[05:36:33] <Cruor> im sorry, 3deg is
more than enough to make me want to throw the laptop out a
window
L309[05:37:00] <Cruor> body {transform:
rotate(3deg);} add this to your css
L310[05:37:13] <Cruor> will make wonders,
i prmis
L311[05:39:12] <Lizzy> Izaya: whenever I
get around to updating my site I'll give you the link to the IRC
section
L313[05:39:34] <Cruor> Izaya: why is a mix
of h3 and h4 used? o_O
L314[05:39:42] <Izaya> Cruor: because
markdown
L315[05:39:53] <Izaya> because IIRC
there's a differentiation though I can't remember
L316[05:40:03] <Izaya> I wrote the
stylesheet like two years ago
L317[05:40:22] <Lizzy> Speaking of
markdown
L318[05:40:36] *
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L320[05:42:35] <Cruor> maybe i should fix
my webpage after the last slaughter that happend to it :I
L321[05:44:04] <Cruor> Izaya: you might
want to add a minimum width to your webpage
L322[05:44:21] <Izaya> what does that
mean
L323[05:44:31] *
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L325[05:44:54] <Cruor> say you set a
mimimum width/height to 1280/720, that means it gets scrollbars if
the screen viewing it is smaller
L326[05:45:12] <Cruor> which makes stuff
like 50% not go ****ing haywire when you use it on a toaster
without proper resolution
L327[05:45:23] <Cruor> like this useless
laptop im mashing on
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L330[05:47:37] <Cruor> Izaya: for example
stackoverflow has 1060px as their minimum, which is sane
L331[05:48:12] <Cruor> try taking one of
your pages and put it in a very small window, watch the world burn
:p
L332[05:48:32] <Cruor> (god bless webdev
<_> it burns whatever you do anyway)
L333[05:48:52] <Lizzy> Hmm, if I want to
do the stuff I have in mind i'ma need to fuck about with cookies
and also display the relevant warnings
L335[05:49:27] <Cruor> yea, looks nice!
:p
L336[05:50:07] <Izaya> the actual search
box works well
L337[05:50:14] <Cruor> add a min-width:
1060px; or whatever to the body
L338[05:50:59] <Cruor> 900-1100 somewhere
should be a sane range
L339[05:51:11] <Izaya> but my phone is
720px across
L340[05:51:14] <Izaya> it works fine on my
phone
L341[05:51:20] <Cruor> a 1024x768 screen
would have about 960 with all the scrollbars taken away
L342[05:51:33] <Izaya> o.O
L343[05:51:34] <Cruor> welcome to webdev
hell <_>
L344[05:51:55] <Cruor> i belive this is
why media queries exist
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L346[05:52:15] <Izaya> I'm guessing that
that uses javashit?
L348[05:52:23] <Cruor> nah, its css
:p
L349[05:52:30] *
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L350[05:53:10] <Izaya> I'm just going to
leave it
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L352[05:53:24] <Izaya> because with
min-width: 900px; it adds a scroll bar
L353[05:53:30] <Izaya> except all the
content is already in the screen
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L359[06:01:26] <Cruor> Izaya: webdev is
death and destruction :I
L360[06:01:45] <Izaya> webdev is an
exercise in futility and insanity
L361[06:02:09] <Cruor> what about using
blocks instead of circles for the list? :p
L362[06:02:18] <Cruor> everything else is
pixely :p
L363[06:04:18] <Izaya> probably a decent
idea
L364[06:05:15] <Cruor> definitly feels
"older" :p
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L368[06:12:07] <Inari> D:
L369[06:12:21] <Lizzy> (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L371[06:14:58] <Cruor> Inari: no
candy?
L372[06:15:10] *
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L373[06:15:11] <Inari> no
L374[06:15:11] <Cruor> i thought japan
loved to convinently censor with candy bars <_>
L375[06:15:16] <Inari> lol
L376[06:15:22] <Cruor> that was a
butchering of a word
L377[06:15:25] <Lizzy> Inari: indeed
L378[06:15:57] <Inari> sigh i need to
figure out how to convince chrome ot use google.com again
L379[06:16:14] <Izaya> install
firefox
L380[06:16:39] <Inari> or rather, convince
google to not send me to google.de
L381[06:17:47] <Forecaster> mine doesn't
send me to the local site when I go to google.com
L383[06:18:01] <Forecaster> I've probably
specified that in my account somewhere
L385[06:20:45] <Inari> even when i go to
google.com it puts me to google.de with a "use
google.com" link on the bottom
L386[06:20:46] <Inari> <.<
L387[06:24:51] <Inari> ah there
L388[06:24:59] <Inari> just had to visit
google.com/ncr again for them to give me the cookie
L389[06:26:08] *
Lizzy steals the cookie
L390[06:26:45] <Inari> D:
L391[06:26:49] <Inari> still no candy
;-;
L392[06:27:00] <Inari> Lizzy's in a
sadistic mood today eh :P
L393[06:27:29] *
Lizzy force feeds Inari the 'candy'
L394[06:27:37] <Inari> o.o
L395[06:27:42] <Inari> what even
L396[06:27:47] <Lizzy> exactly
L397[06:27:59] <Lizzy> now where the hell
is Kathy
L398[06:28:03] <Inari> no clue :P
L399[06:28:11] <Izaya> whoa
L400[06:28:11] <Inari> wheres kittykath?
or is tha tkathy?
L401[06:28:29] <Izaya> maybe they quit IRC
to stop procrastinating
L402[06:28:33] <Izaya> like I'm doing
right now
L403[06:28:48] <Inari> Izaya: you're
quitting irc?
L404[06:28:53] <Izaya> no
L405[06:28:57] <Izaya>
procrastinating
L406[06:29:01] <Izaya> I'm quite good at
it, too
L407[06:29:19] <Lizzy> Inari: KittyKath is
Kathy
L408[06:29:30] <Inari> you should make it
your profession
L409[06:29:53] <Izaya> I don't want to
work in the government though
L410[06:30:12] <Lizzy> She offered me some
space for me to back my server up to
L411[06:30:33] <Inari> ;seen
KittyKath
L412[06:30:36] <Lizzy> Izaya: no, for the
government you have to have a "lets see what we can fuck
up" attitude
L413[06:30:43] <Inari> i'll never remember
the stupid prefixes in this channel
L415[06:30:55] <Lizzy> for seen
L416[06:31:00] <Inari> %seen
KittyKath
L417[06:31:01] <Izaya> Lizzy: well it
depends
L418[06:31:01] <MichiBot> Inari: KittyKath
was last seen 6d 17h 50m 59s ago.
L419[06:31:17] <Izaya> on the local level
it's 'who do I know to screw over'
L420[06:31:22] <Inari> %seen Kathy
L421[06:31:23] <MichiBot> Inari: Kathy has
not been seen.
L422[06:31:25] <Inari> :p
L423[06:31:28] <Izaya> on the state level
it's 'how can I twist this to my benefit'
L424[06:31:33] <Izaya> on the national
level it
L425[06:31:40] <Lizzy> Inari: got her on
texts
L426[06:31:43] <Izaya> 's 'how hard can we
fuck EVERYONE over'
L427[06:32:20] <Inari> "And if any
router recieves a packet larger than its MTU, it has the option of
a) fragmenting that packet at the IP level and passing it on, or b)
dropping that packet and telling you to go fuck yourself."
heh
L428[06:59:22] <Forecaster> mmm
hamburgerlunch
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L431[07:05:42] <Izaya> in
burgerland?
L432[07:05:52] <Forecaster> nope, my
house
L433[07:06:20] <Izaya> but is
that
in burgerland?
L434[07:06:40] <Forecaster> if that is
sweden, then yes :P
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L437[07:09:05] <Izaya> sweden? not
burgerland then
L438[07:18:12] <Forecaster> there's
burgers though, which is all I need :P
L439[07:23:06] <Cruor> Izaya: sweden is
almost viking land :I
L440[07:23:34] <Izaya> quite so
L441[07:23:54] <Cruor> aint got time for
burgers when they are almost vikings :⁾
L442[07:24:10] <Izaya> gotta invade
england and all that
L443[07:24:12] <Forecaster> just like
america is full of cowboys and rednecks
L444[07:28:36] *
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L445[07:28:41] <Saphire> um..
L446[07:28:43] <Saphire> *Sangar
L447[07:33:24] <Forecaster> lewd
L448[07:39:13] <Skye> Inari?
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L455[07:50:51] <Inari> Skye: ?
L456[07:51:46] <Skye> Inari: you should
get the word "lewd" to ping you, so you can come up with
a witty comment.
L457[07:51:56] <Inari> :P
L458[07:52:04] <Inari> but im terrible at
making witty comments
L459[07:52:05] <Inari> :<
L460[07:52:22] <Forecaster> then make
non-witty comments
L461[07:52:25] <Forecaster> I do it all
the time
L462[07:52:33] <Inari> I like pie.
L463[07:52:40] <Forecaster> me too!
L464[07:52:42] <Forecaster> pie is
awesome
L466[07:53:24] <Forecaster> I prefer
strawberry pie
L468[07:53:50] <Izaya> It seems like a
trap to say anything about savory pies
L469[07:54:31] <Forecaster> strawberry pie
is great though
L470[07:55:03] <Inari> lol
L471[07:55:15] <Inari> Izaya: nah, traps
are their own genre
L472[07:55:26] <Inari> Forecaster: as long
as its not shortcake one :f
L473[07:55:53] <Izaya> >.> indeed
they are
L474[07:55:58] *
Forecaster ddg's that
L475[07:56:28] <Inari> lol
L476[07:56:45] <Forecaster> oh, no
L478[07:57:11] <Forecaster> my mom used to
make pie that's just crust, sliced strawberries and cream :P
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L480[08:00:52] *
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L481[08:01:23] <Forecaster> piiiie
L482[08:02:45] *
Saphire pokes Sandra .-.
L483[08:02:57] <Forecaster> wait
what
L484[08:03:05] <Forecaster> minecraft is a
"Role Playing Game"?
L485[08:04:31] <Inari> it can be if you
roleplay in it
L486[08:04:32] <Inari> :D
L487[08:05:11] <Forecaster> yeah, because
it's a sandbox D:
L488[08:05:14] <Forecaster> not an
RPG
L490[08:06:13] <Forecaster> but apparently
youtube thinks it is, since it lists youtube videos on the
frontpage under "Role-Playing Games"
L491[08:06:29] <Inari> the fox is obv. me
making some lewd comment and the dog is like "oh this shit
again"
L492[08:06:32] <Forecaster> and the three
minecraft videos there are all mine for some reason
L493[08:06:53] <Forecaster> c'mon youtube,
don't show me my own videos D:<
L494[08:09:13] <Inari> haha
L495[08:09:21] <Inari> you ovviously want
to watch them thouhg
L496[08:09:28] <Inari> i mean you made
them, why woudl you upload videos you dont want to watch
yourself
L497[08:09:31] <gamax92> both of my ears
are blocked up
L498[08:09:36] <gamax92> :(
L499[08:10:13] <Lizzy> :/
L500[08:15:41] *
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them
L501[08:15:56] <gamax92> meh
L502[08:16:36] <Inari> ;p
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L505[08:21:18] <S3> so most of the cat6 on
amazon.com isn't actually cat7
L506[08:21:20] <S3> sorry
L507[08:21:26] <S3> isn't actually
cat6*
L508[08:21:39] <S3> there are a couple,
but almost all of them aren't
L509[08:22:03] <S3> they're almost all
CCA, and some aren't even 23 guage
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L521[08:57:59] <Mettaton_Fab> meep?
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L524[09:14:07] <Mettaton_Fab> I can't boot
Plan9k on these computers.
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L526[09:20:17] <Mettaton_Fab> it halts on
an error.
L527[09:20:28] <Mettaton_Fab> i can't read
that error.
L528[09:20:38] <Forecaster> neither can
we
L529[09:21:02] <Forecaster> because we
can't see it
L530[09:33:53] <Mettaton_Fab> i can't read
it because of the screen resolution is too crappy.
L531[09:34:23] <Forecaster> try it on a
computer with a bigger screen then
L532[09:34:29] <Mettaton_Fab> gotta try it
again.
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L535[09:37:03] <Mettaton_Fab> so
apparently it halts on a panic error.
L536[09:37:23] <Forecaster> you should
take that up with whoever wrote it
L537[09:38:02] <Mettaton_Fab> what is
local 'hnd' ?
L538[09:38:13] <Forecaster> no idea
L539[09:38:27] <Michiyo> It's a
variable... :P
L540[09:38:44] <Mettaton_Fab> it crashes
because of that.
L541[09:38:47] <Forecaster> well yeah, but
no idea what it's for
L542[09:38:48] <Michiyo> hnd would likely
be handle.. it might be related to the FS changes a while back...
what version of OC are you on?
L543[09:39:06] <Mettaton_Fab> the current,
i think?
L544[09:39:13] <Kodos> never just say
current/latest
L545[09:39:17] <Kodos> Always give a
version number
L546[09:39:25] <Michiyo> "The
current"... not helpful when there are (at least) 2
branches..
L547[09:39:49] <Mettaton_Fab>
1.5.22.47
L548[09:40:37] <Michiyo> Ahh 1.8?
L549[09:40:47] <Mettaton_Fab> yesh.
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L551[09:42:04] <Forecaster> I don't see
the appeal of using irc inside of minecraft...
L552[09:42:09] *
vifino groans and sleepily walks to Lizzy
L553[09:42:35] *
Lizzy grabs vifino and snuggles him
L554[09:42:46] <Inari> Forecaster: depends
on wht you mean by that
L555[09:42:54] <Kodos> It's handy on a
server, but rather moot on SSP
L556[09:43:08] <Inari> hmm its handyt on
ssp if you dont want to use another screen to irc
L557[09:43:28] <Forecaster> because that's
apparently why mettaton_fab keeps disconnecting
L558[09:43:42] <Forecaster> they said
their minecraft crashes a lot
L559[09:44:31] <Forecaster> I don't see
the appeal, even if I didn't have 5 monitors...
L560[09:44:37] <Inari> haha
L561[09:44:51] <Inari> well maybe not as
the only irc client you use :P
L562[09:44:53] <Inari> but additional to
it
L564[09:45:26] <Michiyo> and it sounds
like it from the variable he mentioned...
L565[09:45:31] <Michiyo> then yes it's
because of the fs change
L566[09:46:00] <Forecaster> I remember
getting some error when I tried to install it in 1.7.10
L567[09:46:13] <Forecaster> don't remember
what it said though
L568[09:48:33] <Michiyo> I just don't know
WHEN the change was made that messed with handles
L569[09:48:48] <Michiyo> Easiest fix for
his issue... is to upgrade to 1.6, or find a version of 1.5 without
the change
L570[09:52:38] <vifino> FUCK
L571[09:53:01] <vifino> My mom had a
fucking car accident.
L572[09:53:39] <vifino> She says she's
fine, but I don't think she is. ;_;
L573[09:53:44] <Lizzy> :O oh no, is she
all right?
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Lizzy pets vifino
L578[10:03:11] <S3> I am at the stage on
OCBSD where things are loosely coupled enough still but near the
point where I must decide oupling specifics
L579[10:03:23] <S3> Would you rather OCBSD
be a microkernel or a monolithic?
L580[10:03:58] <vifino> microkernel.
L581[10:04:06] <S3> I had a hunch vifino
would say that
L582[10:04:28] <S3> It wouldbe OC's first
microkernel, wouldn't it?
L583[10:04:33] <vifino> Yes.
L585[10:04:42] <S3> might be a good
experiment
L586[10:06:02] <Skye> S3, nope
L587[10:06:11] <Skye> IIRC, Plan9k is a
microkernel
L589[10:06:28] <Skye> and Izaya
experimentded with microkernels
L590[10:06:28] <gamax92> S3: I choose
yes
L591[10:06:47] <Skye> OpenOS is a modular
kernel
L592[10:06:58] <Skye> miniOS was a true
monolithic kernel
L593[10:07:03] <S3> You're right, it does
have an event driver, which is often a hint that a microkernel is
being implemented
L594[10:07:09] <S3> plan9k*
L595[10:08:20] <vifino> Huh,
interesting.
L596[10:08:28] <vifino> Didn't know plan9k
would be a microkernel.
L597[10:09:25] <S3> Maybe I can center
OCBSD around the idea of doing IPC through the VFS
L598[10:09:37] <S3> in a way that the
kerneo subsystems use the kernel filesystem to communicate.
L599[10:10:21] <S3> it shouldn't be very
slow, because like I said, open() in ocbsd doesn't return an fd, it
returns an object that contains an fs and functions.
L600[10:10:45] <S3> so you can open() a
file that just technically gives you a reference to that subsystem
singleton class for example.
L601[10:11:09] <S3> the performance hit
happens during open() and not during function calls.
L602[10:11:16] <Skye> what if people go
open(importantfile).importantfunction = nil]
L603[10:11:20] <Skye> s/]//
L604[10:12:12] <S3> Skye: not a problem,
because those objects are only stored in kernel space
L605[10:12:20] <S3> and doing that will
void your warranty to do kernel dev on OCBSD :P
L606[10:12:49] <S3> in userspace, opening
object files like that gives you new instances of them
L607[10:12:52] <S3> so you can do that all
you want
L609[10:13:23] <Skye> could you use
metatables for fancy stuff?
L610[10:13:33] <S3> I want to for
userspace
L611[10:13:38] <S3> I dunno if it'd help
in kernel space
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L613[10:13:58] <Skye> well
L614[10:14:14] <S3> Skye: like, I want to
implement a mixin model for files, so for example, lets say you
open(/sys/net/socket/ip)
L615[10:14:44] <S3> it will return a file
object with a file descriptor and read and write() a snd such, but
also send and recv from the socket mixins and ip related functions
and variables, etc.
L616[10:15:09] <S3> if you open /dev/ptmx,
you get a pty file object that is mixed in with tty handling
functions
L617[10:15:37] <S3> so I might make heavy
use of metatables for that
L618[10:16:31] <Skye> microkernel tends to
imply that kernel components have the same protection from
eachother as programs have from eachother
L619[10:17:49] <S3> Sounds about right. I
do have some level of protection, but
L620[10:18:20] <S3> so like, the inside
guts of the subsystems are protected, but you can still screw with
the outside of it and destroy them
L621[10:18:23] <S3> lenmme get an
example
L622[10:18:46] <vifino> Go full
MINIX!
L624[10:19:18] <S3> you can't access the
internal private functions or variables at all without stack
hackery
L626[10:19:31] <S3> nothing prevents you
from overriding the public functions and screwing it up that
way
L627[10:20:19] <S3> if you can think of a
way to wrap that or place that into some really fast IPC
L628[10:20:20] <Skye> S3, you need
OCBSD-hardened
L629[10:21:06] <S3> Skye: The only way I
can think of truly protecting kernel stuff from each-other is to
make them 100% event driven
L630[10:21:11] <Michiyo> So, I'm getting
my hours cut, by a day..
L631[10:21:15] <S3> I fear that would slow
it down
L632[10:21:21] <Michiyo> I'll have 3 days
a week off... :/
L633[10:21:22] <S3> Michiyo: ouch
L634[10:21:30] <Michiyo> and sub $200
checks
L635[10:21:43] <S3> Michiyo: second job,
NOW!
L636[10:21:53] <Michiyo>
s/second/different/
L637[10:21:53] <S3> before you end up
jobless
L638[10:21:54] <MichiBot> <S3>
Michiyo: different job, NOW!
L639[10:22:05] <S3> Skye: what do you
think?
L640[10:22:36] <Skye> S3, you can use
metatables to protect the interfaces of stuff
L641[10:22:38] <S3> my closure approach is
pretty nice because as long as you code nicely, there's no way to
get to the kobjects tree internally
L643[10:22:58] <S3> wouldn't that really
slow it down?
L644[10:23:14] <Skye> only one way to find
out!
L645[10:23:18] <S3> well actually
L646[10:23:24] <S3> whats the metatable
thing for assignments?
L647[10:23:38] <S3> I can just set that to
nil, because I'm using functions for variable access.
L648[10:24:24] <S3> Skye: I dunno if you
know much about making objects this way, but it takes a little more
ram but is actuallyt faster performance wise than using plain old
table like objects
L651[10:25:16] <Skye> S3, The __newindex
metamethod does for table updates what __index does for table
accesses. When you assign a value to an absent index in a table,
the interpreter looks for a __newindex metamethod
L653[10:25:40] <S3> so there's no general
__asignment one
L654[10:25:43] <S3> assignment*
L655[10:25:47] <S3> I'd have to
filter
L657[10:27:40] <S3> this would take more
ram
L658[10:28:03] <S3> but I think I can just
use meta tables in the file object you get from open
L659[10:28:12] <S3> to hide the object
underneath
L660[10:28:15] <Skye> S3, welll
L661[10:28:17] <S3> and then proxy
it
L662[10:28:28] <Skye> you could make a
master metatable that makes everything read only
L663[10:28:29] <S3> like a wrapper
L664[10:29:22] <S3> I think that having an
in kernel filesystem would actually benefit, because it would
provide file IO very early on in the kernel boot
L665[10:29:28] <S3> allowing for some
REALLY nifty things
L666[10:29:56] <S3> (keep in mind this
isn't like, disk IO)
L667[10:30:03] <S3> it's all VFS
calls
L668[10:31:52] <S3> This actually
remindsme of my old homebrew os project for x86
L669[10:37:21] <Skye> using a metatable
would be slightly slow
L670[10:38:01] <S3> with file object
encapsulation it should stay quite fast
L671[10:38:11] <Skye> huh?
L672[10:38:33] <Skye> how does it
work?
L673[10:38:37] <S3> if you looked at how I
encapsulated kobject stuff in that paste
L674[10:38:49] <S3> you'll see I define
all the functions and stuff for it inside the function
L675[10:38:54] <S3> and private variables,
etc
L676[10:39:15] <S3> it's actually faster
than table based objects but you lose the ability to do amazing
table things
L677[10:39:18] <S3> as easily
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L679[10:39:29] <S3> but, you also get
"true" private functions and variables
L680[10:39:57] <S3> in my drivers, they do
polymorphism on these objects
L681[10:40:02] <Skye> I don't understand
how it works
L682[10:40:14] <S3> so for example
L684[10:40:50] <S3> this is the basic
module skeleton
L685[10:40:59] <S3> I made it as simple as
possible
L686[10:41:31] <S3> btw there's a typo in
there, that's supposed to say _MODULE.new() not module.new
L687[10:41:38] <S3> somehow it stil
works.. lol
L688[10:41:53] <S3> so, as you notice, I
only return self
L689[10:41:59] <S3> so everything inside
of self is public
L690[10:42:19] <S3> anything else declared
local in that function is truly private to the extent that you
could fish it out of the stack somewhere.
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L692[10:43:22] <S3> so modules,
polymorphise this class
L694[10:43:49] <Skye> I don't understand
how it works
L696[10:44:11] <Inari> what baout it
:P
L697[10:44:15] <S3> so the idea is that
you keep all of the important stuff inside the function that you
don't ewant people to see
L698[10:44:29] <S3> instead of in some
table
L699[10:45:08] <S3> in that above example,
I show that you can use this technique to completely hide objects
inside of the function
L701[10:45:17] <S3> so you can't do
ANYTHING to it
L702[10:45:23] <S3> not unless I give it
to you
L703[10:45:24] <Skye> so private variables
are local variables
L704[10:45:34] <S3> right, local in that
function
L705[10:45:37] <S3> and they don't fall
out of scope :P
L706[10:45:48] <Skye> garbage
collectors!
L708[10:45:59] <S3> it's a pretty neat
trick, I think
L709[10:46:00] <Inari> you can have them
be local to the module too, or am i missing somehting
L710[10:46:04] <S3> and imo it makes code
a little cleaner
L711[10:46:49] <S3> Inari: yeah but iirc
(and I'm not sure why or how) you can alway sget to it with getfenv
or some crap
L712[10:46:53] <S3> with this you
can't
L713[10:47:05] <S3> so you need to abuse
the stack to get to it, which imo you shouldn't
L714[10:47:11] <S3> and if you do you're
doing it wrong :P
L715[10:47:28] <Inari> i kind of doubt
that, as local doesnt show up in the env
L716[10:47:35] <S3> yeah I'm not
sure
L717[10:47:41] <Inari> hence why you have
to use the debug lib to access those
L718[10:47:42] <S3> it may also depend on
how you load files too
L719[10:47:47] <S3> if you load a file as
a function or something
L720[10:47:56] <S3> I believe that's how
it's being done
L721[10:48:07] <Inari> then its still
local to the function
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L723[10:48:27] <Inari> you could of course
inject your own code to expose the locals
L724[10:48:32] <Inari> but at that point
it doesnt really matter :P
L725[10:48:52] <S3> right, at that point
you're also, voiding warranty
L728[10:49:11] <S3> and with my approach
I'm -pretty- sure you can't expose them that way because they
aren't defined
L729[10:49:17] <S3> in your scope when you
inject them
L730[10:49:18] <Inari> Well yeah, private
vars are just to prevent accidents anyway
L731[10:49:49] <S3> they're technically
only in scope when they're defined inside that function
L732[10:50:00] <S3> you'd have to do
something really weird if the object has already been
instantiated
L733[10:50:10] <S3> if you're
instantiating a new object then maybe
L734[10:50:16] <S3> yeah, you can do it
that way
L735[10:50:27] <S3> but after the object
is made you can't
L736[10:50:41] <S3> (I do this in my iface
module as you can see)
L737[10:50:54] <S3> I override some vars
that define the name and description of the driver
L738[10:51:44] <S3> Skye: but my point is
maybe I can encapsulate these objects inside of some local variable
inside the fdobject function somehow
L739[10:51:51] <S3> so that you can't
really get to them
L740[10:52:13] <S3> but somehow still cann
functions through it by some autoloader (which will cause a slight
slowdown)
L741[10:52:26] <S3> call*
L742[10:53:51] <S3> but where should we
mount the kernel filesystem?
L743[10:54:03] <S3> maybe /sys/kern
?
L744[10:54:33] <S3> this causes a
conflict
L745[10:54:35] <Skye> /kernel ?
L746[10:54:42] <S3> that's a bit
better
L747[10:54:53] <S3> because sysfs gets
mounted after the system boots
L748[10:55:23] <S3> and it would literally
cover the kernel filesystem XD
L749[10:56:22] <Skye> or maybe / ?
L750[10:56:22] <gamax92> why can't sysfs
just be mounted at boot and only cover the kernel filesystem until
everything's started up?
L751[10:57:36] <S3> gamax92: you have a
point. I could do the following:
L752[10:57:47] <S3> instead of booting the
kernel from the bootloader, I can boot init.
L753[10:57:53] <S3> which is how my
homebrew worked
L754[10:58:10] <S3> init was responsible
for loading all of the kernel subsystems into memory on that
project
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L756[10:58:49] <Mettaton_Fab> so, is there
a fix for the Plan9k problem?
L757[10:58:57] <S3> to fix what?
L758[10:59:25] <Forecaster> @Michiyo :
Easiest fix for his issue... is to upgrade to 1.6, or find a
version of 1.5 without the change
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L760[10:59:31] <Forecaster> Mettaton_Fab:
^
L761[10:59:53] <S3> change of what
L762[10:59:53] <Forecaster> "the
change" being a change to the filesystem
L763[11:00:47] <gamax92> file handles
changed from a number to userdata
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L765[11:00:58] <Mettaton_Fab> why are tier
2 graphics cards more powerful than tier 3 ones?
L766[11:01:04] <gamax92> they aren't
L767[11:01:14] <Mettaton_Fab>
*colorful
L768[11:01:20] <gamax92> they aren't
L769[11:01:44] <Mettaton_Fab> they are
more colorful... atleast in plan9k
L770[11:01:57] <Forecaster> what
L771[11:02:29] <Forecaster> what do you
mean "more colorful"?
L772[11:02:35] <gamax92> ^
L773[11:03:03] <gamax92> because ... they
aren't :P tier 3 GPU's have 256 colors and tier 2 GPU's have 16
colors
L774[11:03:05] <Mettaton_Fab> more visible
colors, like the loading bar of plan9k being blue and not
black
L775[11:03:27] <gamax92> that sounds like
plan9k has a problem
L776[11:03:33] <Inari> duno, ask Magik6k
in theming choices :P
L777[11:06:22] <Magik6k> umm
L778[11:06:34] <S3> ocbsd's dev will be a
bit interesting because I'm going straight into unmanaged hard
drives in OC
L779[11:06:44] <S3> as soon as
possible
L781[11:08:45] <Magik6k> It's just T2
color aproximation
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L784[11:12:35] <Mettaton_Fab> what is the
difference between managed and unmanaged?
L785[11:12:35] <S3> I like the BSD swirly
pipe
L786[11:13:05] <S3> loading... | / - \ | /
- \
L787[11:14:07] <Mettaton_Fab> thats what
our PC's at school are doing while loading something for network
boot.
L788[11:14:47] <Mettaton_Fab> something
FOG computer cloning solutions thing.
L789[11:16:06] <Saphire> time to
right-pad
L790[11:16:11] *
Saphire giggles
L791[11:16:28] <Mettaton_Fab> but yeah,
could someone make this spinning thing a loading animation for
OpenOS?
L792[11:16:47] *
Mettaton_Fab hugs Saphire
L793[11:17:46] <gamax92> S3: that's not
specific to BSD ... :P
L794[11:18:19] <Mettaton_Fab> it is even
seen in the Intel UNDI/PXE thingy for network boot.
L795[11:18:54] <Mettaton_Fab> and that
stuff had stopped being developed in 2002
L796[11:19:07] <gamax92> BSD's older than
2002
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L798[11:22:14] <S3> gamax92: I know it's
not
L799[11:22:19] <S3> but I like it
L800[11:22:29] <Turtle> o/
L801[11:22:31] <gamax92> S3: but ... where
is Vexatos
L802[11:22:36] <gamax92> Turtle: You're
not Vexatos D:<
L803[11:22:44] <Turtle> No
L804[11:22:54] <Turtle> I am here on a
quest of opinions on bethesa modding coming to console
L805[11:23:03] <Turtle> trying to have a
somewhat educated opinion :P
L806[11:23:17] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L807[11:23:43] <gamax92> The only console
I own is a Wii, so probably not helpful there :P
L808[11:23:55] <Inari> Turtle: more sex
mods is always good
L809[11:24:09] <Turtle> Reports are coming
in that a lot of the console players are demanding as hell
L810[11:24:13] <Turtle> and Inari: It be
console
L811[11:24:15] <Turtle> no NSFW
stuff
L812[11:24:20] <Inari> :<
L813[11:24:22] <Inari> then it sucks
L814[11:24:23] <Inari> 0/10
L815[11:24:41] *
Forecaster doesn't own any consoles
L816[11:24:50] <Turtle> But uh, PCMR
subreddit seems to suggest there be drama
L817[11:24:58] <Forecaster> of course
there is
L819[11:28:02] <Inari> loverslab \o/
L820[11:28:42] <Forecaster> I'm more
curious if script extenders will work on consoles
L821[11:29:35] <Turtle> I faintly remember
no
L822[11:29:46] <Turtle> since they are DLL
extensions
L823[11:29:51] <Turtle> and we cant have
custom code on consoles can we now
L824[11:29:52] <Forecaster> I would not be
surprised by that
L826[11:30:16] <Forecaster> so it's going
to lack a lot of improvements like gui mods and such probably
L827[11:30:18] <S3> they should just write
everything in brainfuck
L828[11:30:24] <S3> so it can be
modded
L829[11:32:48] *
Mettaton_Fab hugs Inari
L830[11:32:51] <Lizzy> right, lets see if
i can break my steam stuff
L831[11:32:58] *
Lizzy stabs Mettaton_Fab
L832[11:32:59] <Inari> Mettaton_Fab:
wat
L833[11:33:02] *
Inari stabs Mettaton_Fab
L834[11:33:14] *
Lizzy high-fives Inari
L835[11:33:22] *
Inari high-knives Lizzy
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L837[11:33:31] *
Lizzy mehs
L838[11:33:34] <Inari> :p
L839[11:33:38] *
Mettaton_Fab gits gud
L840[11:33:38] <Inari> what
L841[11:33:41] <Inari> its like a high
five
L842[11:33:43] <Inari> but with
knives
L843[11:33:44] <Inari> :<
L844[11:34:08] <Mettaton_Fab> i just
imagined a high knive
L845[11:34:29] <Mettaton_Fab> it looks
funny in my imagination.
L846[11:34:54] *
Mettaton_Fab hugs Lizzy
L847[11:35:01] *
Lizzy dropkicks Mettaton_Fab
L848[11:35:18] <Mettaton_Fab> how, if i am
hugging you?
L849[11:35:31] <Forecaster> a magic clone,
duh
L851[11:37:55] <Mettaton_Fab> there is no
magic here!
L852[11:38:12] <Forecaster> that's exactly
what a muggle would say
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L854[11:39:26] <Mettaton_Fab> why would
someone call a clan i am groot?
L855[11:40:10] <Skye> Lizzy is awesome.
She doesn't need magic to be awesome, but she had magic as
well.
L856[11:40:29] *
Mettaton_Fab hugs Skye
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L858[11:40:40] <Skye> uh?
L860[11:42:20] <S3> lol my friend just
logged onto skype and got the chat messages my cat sent him last
night on my laptop
L861[11:42:41] <S3> I fell asleep at my
laptop ad the cat slept on the keyboard so he got several large
multi kilobyte messages going
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
L863[11:42:43] <Mettaton_Fab> your cat can
use a keyboard?
L864[11:42:49] <gamax92> yep
L865[11:43:04] <payonel> Mettaton_Fab: did
you get your resolution thing worked out?
L866[11:43:19] *
payonel coughs up a furball on gamax92's carpet
L867[11:43:25] <gamax92> :I
L868[11:43:34] *
gamax92 locks payonel in the closet
L870[11:44:06] <Mettaton_Fab> the res
issue? yes, had to work the sh.lua around a bit.
L871[11:44:07] *
payonel enters narnia
L872[11:44:09] <S3> if I use a 4
characters in a square I can create a framebuffer driver for OCBSD
to render fonts
L873[11:44:25] <S3> that'd be like..
L874[11:44:33] <S3> 6x4 right?
L875[11:44:58] *
Mettaton_Fab uses a nuclear reactor like Tschernobyl in
Narnia.
L876[11:45:05] <payonel> Mettaton_Fab: can
you test: echo resolution 100 40 > ~/.shrc
L877[11:45:13] <payonel> remove your sh
hack, and reboot
L878[11:45:16] <payonel> mtg, bbl
L879[11:45:43] <Mettaton_Fab> gotta test
it
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L882[11:46:54] <gamax92> S3: wat?
L883[11:47:08] <S3> thinking about fond
rendering
L884[11:47:10] <S3> using the braile
chars
L885[11:47:26] <gamax92> why
L886[11:47:35] <S3> I don't know, why
not?
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L892[11:47:55] <gamax92> S3: sounds
horrible
L893[11:48:00] <Mettaton_Fab> no, it wont
work
L894[11:48:01] <S3> does the printer
support the braile chars?
L895[11:48:10] <gamax92> S3: the
what?
L896[11:48:17] <S3> in unicode
L897[11:48:21] <Mettaton_Fab> Blind
write
L898[11:48:23] <gamax92> what
printer?
L899[11:48:31] <S3> gamax92: GO DO SSTV
SOMEWHERE
L900[11:48:33] <S3> anyays
L901[11:48:34] <Mettaton_Fab> OpenPrinter,
i guess
L903[11:48:47] <gamax92> S3: no
seriously.
L904[11:48:49] <gamax92> what
printer.
L905[11:48:50] <S3> ah crap
L906[11:48:55] <gamax92> OC doesn't have a
printer you dipshit
L907[11:48:57] <S3> I actually gotta go
though its 12:48
L908[11:49:01] <S3> I need to pick up food
and head to class :(
L909[11:49:02] <gamax92> 3D printer don't
count
L910[11:49:15] <Mettaton_Fab> for me its
18:49
L911[11:49:20] <S3> there's a printer
addon iirc
L912[11:49:36] <gamax92> go to class
D:M
L913[11:50:00] <Mettaton_Fab> why is it
so? because i am german.
L914[11:50:42] <gamax92> Why is Vexatos
not back :I it's 6pm there
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L916[11:51:32] <Mettaton_Fab> | / - \ | /
- \ |
L917[11:51:39] <Mettaton_Fab> 2
spins
L918[11:53:23] <Mettaton_Fab> who's using
a laptop?
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L920[11:53:41] <gamax92> Mettaton_Fab: not
I
L921[11:54:02] <Mettaton_Fab> using german
grammar?
L922[11:54:18] <Mettaton_Fab> Sup mah boi
Gen?
L923[11:56:52] <gamax92> xfractint
L924[11:57:19] <Mettaton_Fab> my PC has a
BIOS setting to require a password for boot
L925[11:57:27] <Mettaton_Fab> it beeps on
boot.
L926[11:57:29] <gamax92> cool, mine can do
that too
L927[11:57:32] <gamax92> so does
mine!
L928[11:57:49] <payonel> Mettaton_Fab:
.shrc resolution didn't work?
L929[11:58:04] <Mettaton_Fab> nope, didn't
work.
L930[11:58:14] <Mettaton_Fab> but the res
is better now!
L931[11:58:20] <payonel> ?
L932[11:58:24] <payonel> doesn't work but
is better?
L933[11:58:58] <Mettaton_Fab> i had to
hack the original OS into pieces for that in some way, but i accept
it.
L934[11:59:29] <Michiyo> S3, OpenPrinter,
supports (in theory) Whatever MC can render
L935[11:59:34] <Michiyo> MC, NOT OC.
L936[12:00:46] <payonel> Mettaton_Fab: i'm
very interested in what you had to do to the os to get it to do
what you needed for resolution changes, and how it is better
L937[12:00:57] <Inari> is there any good
printer mod for 1.9/
L938[12:01:05] <payonel> also, it concerns
me that resolutoin wouldn't work from the .shrc
L939[12:01:10] <payonel> does calling
resolution from the shell work?
L940[12:01:20] <Michiyo> OpenPrinter if I
can ever convince someone to help me port it, AFAIK there are no
other printer mods for OC
L941[12:01:38] <Mettaton_Fab> i had to
change the sh.lua with a line for gpu.setResolution thru search
with ctrl +f
L942[12:01:38] <Inari> i'd prefer
something that supports what OC can render though :f
L943[12:02:02] <Michiyo> Well, get Sangar
to let me use OC's renderer in my GUIs
L944[12:02:16] <Mettaton_Fab> calling it
from the shell works, so resolution is no problem for me.
L945[12:02:21] <payonel> Mettaton_Fab:
/bin/sh.lua or /lib/sh.lua, what what line?
L946[12:02:33] <Mettaton_Fab> bin
sh.lua
L947[12:02:43] <payonel> .shrc resolution
should work because the sh loads .shrc on boot
L948[12:02:53] <Mettaton_Fab> but use
ctrl+f to search the line you need.
L949[12:03:49] <Mettaton_Fab> it is above
component.gpu.setForeground()
L950[12:03:53] <gamax92> Michiyo: there
must be some way ... he uses it for the manuals
L951[12:04:41] <payonel> Mettaton_Fab:
call `resolution <x> <y>` and then `clear`
L952[12:04:51] <payonel> (again, without
your resolution hack in sh)
L953[12:04:57] <payonel> does clear reset
the resolution?
L954[12:05:28] <Mettaton_Fab> don't
wanna
L955[12:06:17] <gamax92> what a
child
L956[12:07:00] <Michiyo> gamax92, well I
couldn't figure it out...
L957[12:07:17] <Michiyo> Also... from the
way work is going I might have a chance to work on it more..
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L959[12:08:17] <Mettaton_Fab>
Darude-Sandstorm.
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L961[12:13:30] <Forecaster> rude
sandstorms
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L963[12:15:09] <Mettaton_Fab> deez rood
senstorns
L964[12:25:56] <Mettaton_Fab> meeps?
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L966[12:30:04] <Mettaton_Fab> there were
mobs in mah house.
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L968[12:34:54] <gamax92> I guess I'm going
for lunch
L969[12:34:56] <gamax92> bai
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L972[12:47:49] <Mettaton_Fab> Inari?
L973[12:48:02] <Mettaton_Fab> Are you a
Fox?
L974[12:53:14] <Negi> leg
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L977[13:09:30] <Sangar> o/
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L979[13:14:13] <Lizzy> \o
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L983[13:18:36] <Vexatos> merp
L984[13:18:38] <Vexatos> ™
L985[13:18:48] <Vexatos> gamax92 pls
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L989[13:23:32] <gamax92> Vexatos: yes, I
did
L990[13:31:14] <Mettaton_Fab> I like the
Guardians of the Galaxy Soundtrack.
L991[13:31:38] <Mettaton_Fab> It even fits
on one single Audio Compact Cassette!
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L996[13:47:41] <gamax92> Vexatos: :|
L997[13:48:01] <Vexatos> gamax92,
:>
L998[13:48:24] <gamax92> Vexatos: is that
really all you're going to say about it?
L999[13:49:08] <Vexatos> it is awesome,
alright >_>
L1000[13:49:12] <Vexatos> I am exhausted
as heck
L1001[13:49:16] <Vexatos> and it won't
get any better
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L1008[14:14:28] <Vexatos> Only one thing
is still bugging me - the god damn first-person rotation of tape
drives
L1009[14:14:30] <Vexatos> :|
L1010[14:18:53] <Forecaster> what?
L1011[14:21:47] <S3> I just sat in a 2
hour lecture of trigonometric substitution for integration, and I
have no idea what the fuck just happened.
L1012[14:22:02] <Forecaster> math, I
assume
L1013[14:24:08] <S3> yeah.. like, what is
the integral of delta theta all over x^2 * (9 - x^2)^(1/2)
L1014[14:24:19] <S3> s/theta/x/
L1015[14:24:20] <MichiBot> <S3>
yeah.. like, what is the integral of delta x all over x^2 * (9 -
x^2)^(1/2)
L1017[14:27:31] <gamax92> hmm?
L1018[14:27:44] <gamax92> oh, yeah should
be fine
L1019[14:28:01] <Vexatos> S3, we're at
differential equations right now
L1020[14:28:10] <Vexatos> i.e.
"guess and if you can't let a computer do it for
you"
L1021[14:29:11] <Vexatos> now I wish I
had this for the other cards as well :>
L1022[14:29:13] <S3> Vexatos: I'm taking
a 5 week course on calc 2
L1023[14:30:46] <Vexatos> gamax92, I
should probably make AudioUtils.removePlayer a public static
synchronized void
L1024[14:31:02] <Vexatos> oh wait
L1025[14:31:04] <Vexatos> doesn't
matter
L1026[14:31:07] <Vexatos> nevermind
L1027[14:31:28] <Vexatos> wait, it
may
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L1029[14:32:29] <Vexatos> yea I'd be
accessing a map from two threads
L1030[14:33:15] <gamax92> erm
L1031[14:33:30] <Vexatos> gamax92, want
to stop in onMessage as well
L1032[14:33:38] <gamax92> ahh
L1033[14:33:47] <Vexatos> Guess I'll just
make the entire method synchronized as the map isn't called from
outside AudioUtils
L1034[14:34:24] <gamax92> uhhh
L1035[14:34:29] <gamax92> Vexatos:
where's the branch
L1036[14:34:39] <Vexatos> merged into
serverrackthings
L1037[14:34:57] <Vexatos> just set
upstream to that one
L1038[14:35:42] <gamax92> oh right,
github search can't do branches
L1039[14:35:55] <Vexatos> yep
L1040[14:36:07] <Vexatos> hmm well this
never was thread-safe ._.
L1041[14:36:14] <Vexatos> since stuff is
called from server and client threads
L1042[14:36:22] <Vexatos> mystery it
never crashed
L1043[14:36:56] <Vexatos> welp, I guess
just making removePlayer synchronized is good enough™
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L1046[14:38:49] <Vexatos> hm, gamax92, it
still didn't stop when I hit the stop button, huh
L1047[14:38:59] <gamax92> hmm?
L1048[14:39:01] <Vexatos> oh wait, the
class never reloaded
L1049[14:39:12] <gamax92> oh, you're
using intellij debugger?
L1050[14:39:43] <Vexatos> yes
L1051[14:40:11] <gamax92> Vexatos: I
wonder what that EmotionmlParser's for, technically it's broken atm
but ... MaryTTS was talking
L1052[14:40:27] <Vexatos> emotions
L1053[14:40:33] <Vexatos> changes in
pitch and tone
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L1055[14:42:42] <gamax92> Vexatos: yeah
but ... it didn't crash :P
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L1057[14:43:00] <gamax92> and ... *checks
something*
L1058[14:43:06] <Vexatos> nope, it'll
just sound a lot worse
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L1060[14:46:13] <gamax92> Vexatos: why
wouldn't it crash :/
L1061[14:46:30] <gamax92> all of it's
variables would be null
L1062[14:46:32] <Vexatos> because
magic
L1063[14:47:07] <gamax92> I could hijack
process() to see if it's even being called
L1065[14:48:57] *
gamax92 hype
L1066[14:50:04] <gamax92> Vexatos: ahh,
1.9?
L1067[14:50:11] <Vexatos> gamax92, all
three
L1068[14:50:17] <Vexatos> as you can
tell
L1069[14:50:35] <gamax92> I'm gonna go
throw EmotionmlParser into Krakatau, see if that'll give me any
hints
L1070[14:50:53] <gamax92> my class
inspector function seems to not like working on
EmotionmlParser
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L1074[15:02:24] <Inari> Vexatos: is it
stable though?
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L1076[15:02:33] <Inari> and the heck does
muuuusiiiiic mean
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L1078[15:02:53] <Forecaster> the sound
thereof
L1079[15:06:53] <Vexatos> Inari, go try
it
L1080[15:06:56] <Vexatos> if you find
bugs, it's not
L1081[15:06:57] <Vexatos> :>
L1082[15:07:01] <Vexatos> (please report
them)
L1083[15:07:09] <Vexatos> requires latest
and greatest OC
L1084[15:07:10] <Inari> :P
L1085[15:07:15] <Inari> dont worry, i
wont
L1086[15:07:36] <Inari> the only space
for me to really try is on a server, and i dont admin it :P
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L1088[15:12:17] <S3> I thought a little
about microkernel design in calc
L1089[15:12:20] <S3> for OCBSD
L1090[15:12:30] <S3> I just need to
figure out how to bootstrap it
L1091[15:13:09] <S3> in order for sysfs
to work, kobjects have to work, in order for ysfs to work, vfs also
has to work
L1092[15:13:51] <S3> in order for sysfs
to work, modules have to work, and yadda yadda
L1094[15:15:35] <S3> for 320MB/s SCSI
drives
L1095[15:16:19] <S3> that's like what, 4
gbit?
L1096[15:16:34] <S3> oops wrong
channel
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L1098[15:20:37] <gamax92> 10/10
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L1100[15:25:46] <gamax92> Vexatos: I
guess that cmu-slt-hsmm voice has no emotions :P
L1101[15:25:59] <gamax92> sounds the same
in the gui client as it does in MC
L1102[15:29:07] <gamax92> oh, it's
totally not for emotions.
L1103[15:29:27] <gamax92> it's just
another xml format
L1104[15:33:09] <gamax92> APML is working
atleast
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L1106[15:36:37] <Georggi> Hi guys, is
there any way in Computronics or OC to startup robot\computer with
redstone or something like that?
L1107[15:37:20] <gamax92> a robot can
right click another robot to get it to start
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L1109[15:37:39] <gamax92> as far as
redstone though ... don't think so?
L1110[15:37:46] <Georggi> Oh, thx, didn't
know that, that is fien for me too
L1111[15:37:56] <vifino> I have a 700+ ms
ping to google.
L1112[15:37:58] <gamax92> robot's can
also right click computers
L1113[15:37:58] <vifino> Help.
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L1116[15:44:08] <Vexatos> gamax92, do you
even wakeOnRedstone(true)
L1117[15:44:27] <gamax92> is that
actually a thing
L1118[15:45:18] <gamax92> is not.
L1119[15:45:58] <Inari> how compatible
are 1.9 and 1.9.4 mods?
L1120[15:46:07] <Inari> or rather
L1121[15:46:13] <Inari> how compatible is
1.9.4 with 1.9 mods
L1122[15:46:14] <Vexatos> not at
all
L1123[15:46:17] <Inari> aw
L1124[15:46:43] <Inari> i kind of want to
make some mod, but not clue what :D
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L1126[15:46:56] <gamax92> the Temia
mod
L1127[15:47:21] <Temia> Moo? o3o
L1128[15:47:40] <Georggi> Well, kinda
strange, robot.use() should be right click(and it says that bock
was activated) but robot doesn't boot up:(
L1129[15:47:40] <Temia> ...What would a
mod of me be?
L1130[15:48:34] <gamax92> Georggi: might
have to set sneaky to true
L1131[15:48:38] <vifino> Moo-y.
L1132[15:48:44] *
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L1134[15:48:59] <gamax92> yeah, it's a
shift right-click, so sneaky has to be set to true
L1135[15:50:18] <gamax92> huh ... why
isn't it working? :|
L1136[15:50:23] <Georggi> Second
parameter is true, so I guess it is sneaky, using robot.use(1,
true)
L1137[15:50:53] <vifino> vifino@recon:~ %
lua50
L1138[15:50:53] <vifino> Lua 5.0.2
Copyright (C) 1994-2004 Tecgraf, PUC-Rio
L1139[15:51:00] <vifino> The only lua
this thing has.... is 5.0
L1140[15:52:43] <asie> Inari:
almost
L1141[15:52:49] <asie> tile entities are
affected
L1142[15:52:53] <asie> but mods which
don't add TEs should be mostly fine
L1143[15:53:17] <gamax92> Georggi: oh, is
it possible you're trying it on a creative case?
L1144[15:53:34] <Georggi> Hm, yes I
do
L1145[15:53:45] <gamax92> it'll work on
the normal ones
L1146[15:53:48] <Georggi> Will try on
another one
L1147[15:54:36] <vifino> :v
L1148[15:54:45] <vifino> Router is at
100% cpu usage on two cores.
L1149[15:54:55] <gamax92> dual core
router?
L1150[15:54:55] <vifino> I should reboot
it, buuuuuuuut
L1151[15:55:09] <vifino> 29 days
uptime
L1152[15:55:15] <gamax92>
>_>;
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L1154[15:55:20] <gamax92> why do people
care about uptime
L1155[15:55:28] <vifino> gamax92: my
router is an x86_64 freebsd box
L1156[15:56:53] <Izaya> gamax92: more
uptime -> more reliable
L1157[15:57:02] <Izaya> in theory,
anyway
L1158[15:57:10] <gamax92> you mean
less?
L1159[15:57:19] <Izaya> No
L1160[15:57:21] <gamax92> yes
L1161[15:57:36] <gamax92> you can't
upgrade hardware or kernel if you care about uptime
L1162[15:57:53] <Izaya> the longer it's
up the less random crashes ie Windows
L1163[15:58:28] <Izaya> also, in-place
kernel upgrades soon™
L1164[15:59:39] <vifino> I did it.
L1165[15:59:42] <vifino> I rebooted.
:(
L1166[16:00:00] <Izaya> D:
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L1168[16:00:32] <vifino> This hurts more
than it should've :/
L1169[16:00:35] <Izaya> 07:00:16 up 154
days, 13:11, 23 users, load average: 0.07, 0.13, 0.13
L1170[16:00:35] <gamax92> vifino: you're
sad over a meaningless number?
L1171[16:00:40] <vifino> gamax92:
Yes.
L1172[16:00:53] <gamax92> pathetic.
L1173[16:01:07] <vifino> my life in a
nutshell
L1174[16:01:16] <vifino> thanks for
summing it up, asshat.
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L1176[16:02:28] <vifino> Izaya: I
installed minix3 on my old laptop.
L1177[16:02:44] <Izaya> Actual
minix?
L1178[16:02:46] <Lizzy> c m d n j
L1179[16:03:03] <vifino> Sadly, I will
remove it again, because the ethernet chipset aren't
supported.
L1180[16:03:46] <vifino> Izaya: Yeah,
actual MINIX3.
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L1182[16:04:10] <Izaya> wh- how and
why
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L1184[16:04:50] <vifino> How? installer.
Why? It is a really cool microkernel with NetBSD userland.
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L1186[16:06:54] <Georggi> Ok, true,
normal cases work just fine, the other question is, can robots,
redstone or such interact with Electronic Assembler?
L1187[16:07:51] <Georggi> I see they can
insert items there, but what about pushing that
"Assemble" button?
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L1189[16:22:48] <Georggi> Any idea?
L1190[16:28:26] <g> Why not try it?
L1191[16:29:08] <Georggi> Tried to use on
it, didn't work, that's why I am asking
L1192[16:32:53] <g> Well, you suggested
redstone
L1193[16:32:53] <g> try it
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L1203[16:42:58] <Inari> riiiight *steps
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L1205[16:43:56] <Lizzy> .-.
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asleep, then carries her to bed
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L1232[19:09:41] <gamax92> worth the
read
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L1234[19:14:35] <Anonymous> hi
L1235[19:17:31] <gamax92> Hello New
Jersey user
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L1238[19:57:34] <gamax92> I like how
people go: look! a beam of light, and a cat standing in it, this
cat must be holy! when it's just like, the cat wanted to be warm so
it sat in the sunlight
L1239[19:58:18] *
Temia sticks Gamax in a very sanctified sunbeam
L1240[19:58:30] <gamax92> :>
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gamax92 reminds Temia of p8jam2
L1242[19:59:21] <Temia> mu?
L1243[20:00:51] <gamax92> Temia: pico-8
is having a second game jam event
L1244[20:01:05] <Temia> Ah.
L1245[20:01:17] <Temia> My copy of P8's
out of D8 anyway.
L1246[20:01:59] <gamax92> o.o;
L1247[20:08:37] <Temia> What?
>.>
L1248[20:17:55] <gamax92> Temia: why
can't you just update it?
L1249[20:18:31] <Temia> becaaauuuse a
friend sent me my copy :x;;
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L1255[20:49:48] <gamax92> lol, seven
years ago asie was an asshole :)
L1256[20:50:13] <gamax92> good to see
things have changed
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L1268[22:51:28] <S3> The texas republican
party just called all of texas gay
L1270[22:52:22] <S3> it states
"Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the
fundamental
L1271[22:52:22] <S3> unchanging truths
that has been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our
nations
L1272[22:52:22] <S3> founders, and shared
by the majority of Texans."
L1274[22:52:45] <gamax92> you read it
wrong
L1275[22:52:58] <S3> not at all
L1276[22:54:02] <S3> everyone is in an
uproar about it
L1277[22:54:09] <S3> yes it was an
accident
L1278[22:54:14] <S3> but that's what it
says :P
L1279[22:56:00] <gamax92> ahh, well it's
Texas, I could see why they're in an uproar
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L1283[23:20:05] <S3> fril
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L1285[23:42:29] <vifino> Huh. Turns out I
forgot to sleep.
L1286[23:42:33] <vifino> Like... at
all.
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