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L5[00:06:16] <Shuudoushi> https://www.buzzfeed.com/regajha/how-privileged-are-you?utm_term=.ttNkpPqym#.tb8NYgjwm
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L7[00:06:31] <Shuudoushi> I'm laughing WAAAAYYY too hard atm XD http://goo.gl/2nJS0K
L8[00:07:12] <SoraFirestorm> ololololololololololololololol
L9[00:07:42] <Shuudoushi> I somehow think it's rigged lol
L10[00:08:13] <greaser|q> afaik there's at least one person at buzzfeed who basically just shitposts
L11[00:08:43] <Shuudoushi> there's like 80 >.>
L12[00:08:56] <Shuudoushi> 99% of them 'feminist'
L13[00:10:39] <SoraFirestorm> 69 here
L14[00:10:41] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L15[00:12:45] <Shuudoushi> lol
L16[00:16:46] <greaser|q> i think i know which guy is the 1%
L17[00:17:17] <greaser|q> i think he's the guy who wrote the thing about milo being not a real person on the 1st of april
L18[00:17:46] <Shuudoushi> o.O
L19[00:17:50] <Shuudoushi> huh?
L20[00:18:09] <Shuudoushi> and the fuck is a milo?
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L23[00:26:53] <SoraFirestorm> I'm wondering that as well...
L24[00:30:00] <SoraFirestorm> anyways
L25[00:30:04] <SoraFirestorm> I'm not good at pictres
L26[00:30:05] <SoraFirestorm> so
L27[00:30:12] <SoraFirestorm> I didn't check any of the boxes
L28[00:30:18] <SoraFirestorm> quote incoming
L29[00:30:23] <SoraFirestorm> You’re underprivileged. The world is not a fair or ideal place and you know that because you grew up with several identities that the world is not kind to. You had a lot of challenges to overcome simply to get on a level playing field with most people in the world. It is not your job to educate the world about its injustices, but if you choose to, go ahead and send them this quiz. Hopefully it will help.
L30[00:30:39] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L31[00:31:39] <SoraFirestorm> I'm ready for the snark when I check all of the boxes XD
L32[00:32:14] <gamax92> So, wrote a script that tries to merge two files by looking at the most similar string, accidentally made it use the least similar string
L33[00:32:27] <SoraFirestorm> gamax92: win
L34[00:33:28] <SoraFirestorm> and 100/100 points...
L35[00:33:33] <SoraFirestorm> You’re among the most privileged people in the world. We don’t live in an ideal world, but you happened to be born into an ideal lot. This is not a bad thing, nor is it something to be ashamed of. It just means a lot of other people in the world don’t live life with the advantages you have, and that’s something you should always be aware of. Hey, the fact that you took the time and effort to check your privilege means that you’re
L36[00:33:33] <SoraFirestorm> already trying.
L37[00:33:36] <gamax92> I need 200/200 points
L38[00:33:53] <gamax92> and then 50/50 on secondary thing
L39[00:34:41] <SoraFirestorm> which reminds me
L40[00:34:44] <SoraFirestorm> so
L41[00:34:53] <SoraFirestorm> would 0/0 be considered 0 or 1?
L42[00:35:05] <gamax92> it's nan
L43[00:35:10] <SoraFirestorm> there are exactly 0 parts
L44[00:35:15] <SoraFirestorm> but n/n == 1
L45[00:35:34] <gamax92> cool, 0/n == 0
L46[00:36:19] <Trangar> "the expression 0/0 also has no defined value" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Division_by_zero
L47[00:36:30] <SoraFirestorm> Trangar: stop ruining my fun! :P
L48[00:36:37] <SoraFirestorm> checking facts
L49[00:36:38] <SoraFirestorm> pffffft
L50[00:36:54] <Trangar> Sorry :(
L51[00:37:04] <Trangar> If it makes you feel any better, all math is made up by men, so we can change this!
L52[00:37:09] <SoraFirestorm> hahaha
L53[00:37:21] <gamax92> s/ by men//
L54[00:37:21] <MichiBot> <Trangar> If it makes you feel any better, all math is made up, so we can change this!
L55[00:37:35] <gamax92> and well ... not really anyway
L56[00:37:52] <Trangar> "men" as in "human", not "male"
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L66[01:14:30] <SF-MC> tbh
L67[01:14:37] <SF-MC> kinda wish there were RF powered lights
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L70[01:25:02] <Saphire> quote of the day: "thanks god I'm atheist"
L71[01:25:12] <SF-MC> nice
L72[01:25:28] <Trangar> Apparently I'm agnostic, not atheist
L73[01:25:40] <Trangar> Blame noiro
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L75[01:47:24] <SoraFirestorm> I'm actually really excited that my patch to lua-mode ended up in melpa so quickly
L76[01:54:15] <Kodos> #lua function wait(seconds) local start = os.time() repeat until os.time() > start + seconds print("Done") end
L77[01:54:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L78[01:54:21] <Kodos> #lua wait(3)
L79[01:54:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Error: Took too long.
L80[01:54:23] <Kodos> #lua wait(1)
L81[01:54:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Error: Took too long.
L82[01:54:26] <Kodos> Ffs
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L85[01:56:50] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L86[01:57:18] <SoraFirestorm> anyways
L87[01:57:22] <SoraFirestorm> laters o.
L88[01:57:30] <SoraFirestorm> s/o./p\//
L89[01:57:31] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> laters p/
L90[01:57:35] <SoraFirestorm> s/p/o/
L91[01:57:36] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> laters o/
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L94[01:59:18] <Kimiro> Inari: Hi. You missed SoraFirestorm by 4 seconds, saying "layers o/".
L95[01:59:32] <Inari> um
L96[01:59:33] <Inari> ok?
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L98[01:59:51] <greaser|q> i read that as sandstorm
L99[01:59:56] <Kimiro> Lol
L100[02:00:05] <Kimiro> Darude, is that you?
L101[02:00:11] <Inari> thanks MJG isnt here
L102[02:00:15] <Inari> well Kimiro made it anyway
L103[02:00:22] <Inari> *MGG i guess
L104[02:00:30] <greaser|q> and i'm pretty sure sora actually said "laters o." not "layers o/"
L105[02:00:58] <Kimiro> I accounted for the correction.
L106[02:01:11] <Inari> %logs
L107[02:01:13] <Inari> %oclogs
L108[02:01:14] <Inari> %oclogs
L109[02:01:15] <Inari> %oclog
L110[02:01:17] <Inari> ;oclog
L111[02:01:18] <Inari> ;oclogs
L112[02:01:19] <Inari> fu
L113[02:01:27] <Vexatos> http://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L114[02:01:33] <Inari> it dead
L115[02:01:58] <Inari> oclogs.pc-logix.com refused to connect.
L116[02:01:59] <Inari> Search Google for clogs logix
L117[02:02:00] <Inari> what
L118[02:02:03] <Vexatos> Mimiru, help
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L128[02:45:03] <Kodos> %oclogs
L129[02:45:08] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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L131[03:29:57] * Kimiro slaps Kodos with some yeasty dough
L132[03:29:57] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L133[03:30:19] <Kimiro> o.o
L134[03:31:28] <Kimiro> Yeasty?
L135[03:31:58] <Kimiro> Supposed to be tasty.
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L138[03:43:50] * Inari slaps Kimiro with yeast
L139[03:43:50] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L140[03:44:23] * Kimiro slaps Inari with a plate of dicks
L141[03:44:23] * EnderBot2 laughs
L142[03:45:19] <Inari> lewd
L143[03:47:40] <Skye> Inari: but don't you like lewd stuff? :p
L144[03:47:55] <Inari> :p
L145[03:54:01] <Inari> https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/4h706p/if_i_were_to_drop_an_object_a_bowling_ball_down/d2nxdle Oo
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L148[04:06:20] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAfS-qoivKY
L149[04:06:20] <MichiBot> 【ユリ熊嵐】熊ショック!KUMA SHOCK! | length: 9s | Likes: 429 Dislikes: 10 Views: 69864 | by Akire
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L151[04:25:42] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/oVzdz2w.gifv
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L161[05:36:45] <MrVasya> hi
L162[05:36:51] <Kirill_Man1> Hi, vasya
L163[05:38:35] <Trangar> hi
L164[05:39:02] <Inari> [12:21:51] Lizzzy [~very@203.189.127.54] has joined #oc
L165[05:39:02] <Inari> [12:24:39] Lizzzy [~very@203.189.127.54] has left #oc: ...
L166[05:39:03] <Inari> wat
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L168[05:46:40] <Lizzzy> Oh my, it's my alternate universe twin
L169[05:48:08] <Lizzzy> Am I going to get a notification every time I speak
L170[05:48:16] <Lizzzy> Nope nevermind
L171[05:49:16] <Inari> about Lizzy being away?
L172[05:49:23] <Lizzzy> Yeah
L173[05:49:33] <Inari> Lizzy: you should fix that :P
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L175[05:50:01] <Lizzzy> She's probably detached from tmux
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L184[06:09:56] * Izaya yawns
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L187[06:28:27] <Saphire> hi Izaya
L188[06:28:42] <Izaya> Hi Saph.
L189[06:28:56] <Izaya> You wouldn't happen to know a gtk3.20 theme that doesn't suck, would you?
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L192[06:37:04] <nezd> hi guys
L193[06:37:15] <nezd> I have problem
L194[06:37:45] <nezd> Mine Microcontroller crashes after some time with error too long without yielding
L195[06:37:51] <nezd> is there a fix?
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L197[06:40:33] <Gavle> Yes
L198[06:40:46] <Gavle> Write a better program :p
L199[06:42:05] <Izaya> maybe it needs to wait a bit longer
L200[06:43:05] <Gavle> He rage quat Izaya
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L202[06:43:19] <Gavle> Otherwise I would have been more diplomatic
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L207[06:54:41] <Inari> http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/29/prince-harry-and-the-queen-just-owned-the-obamas-on-twitter-5850252/
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L209[07:11:39] <nxsupert> It appears Corded has died.
L210[07:14:12] <Vexatos> Inari, "Boom" ~ The Queen™ 2016
L211[07:27:04] <Lizzy> Inari: if i fixed it KittyKath couldn't go "Liiiiizzzzzzzzyyy" and still ping me :P
L212[07:27:18] <Lizzy> also morning, i guess
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L214[07:31:47] <Inari> Lizzy: apparenlty it triggers for someone whose nick is Lizzzy despite not containing any Lizzy in the msg though?
L215[07:34:32] <Lizzy> Inari, my nick is regex'd in the ping list
L216[07:34:58] <Lizzy> 2 [Ll]+[Ii]+[Zz][Zz]+[Aa]*[Yy]+ -regexp
L217[07:35:31] <Inari> yeah.. but why would it scan the nick fo the person?
L218[07:40:05] <g> Liiiiiiizzzzzzaaaaaaayyyyyyyyy????
L219[07:40:10] <g> that's an interesting way to do it
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L221[07:41:21] <g> I just realised how to add a non-awful ping for "g", and I did it
L222[07:41:38] <Skye> g?
L223[07:41:42] <g> Yus
L224[07:41:45] <Inari> Lizzy: pinging is usually done in messages, no? unless i miss something
L225[07:41:49] <Kodos> payonel, you around?
L226[07:42:26] <Lizzy> Inari: no, pinging is saying someones nick
L227[07:42:45] <Lizzy> also do you not understand the regex?
L228[07:42:48] <Inari> Lizzy: exactly
L229[07:42:54] <Kodos> %tell payonel Please %tell me back as to whether or not the backspace mac fix is in most recent dev builds :x
L230[07:42:55] <MichiBot> Kodos: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L231[07:43:01] <Inari> Lizzy: [12:46:00] Lizzzy [~very@203.189.127.54] has joined #oc
L232[07:43:02] <Inari> [12:46:23] <Lizzzy> Oh my, it's my alternate universe twin
L233[07:43:02] <Inari> [12:47:52] <Lizzzy> Am I going to get a notification every time I speak
L234[07:43:02] <Inari> [12:47:59] <Lizzzy> Nope nevermind
L235[07:43:06] <Inari> they didnt mention your nick though
L236[07:43:07] <Kodos> Coffee time
L237[07:43:40] <Lizzy> well, blame irssi for detecting the nick then
L238[07:44:07] <Inari> :p
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L240[07:48:40] * vifino groans and flops on Lizzy
L241[07:48:52] <Lizzy> You're late
L242[07:49:02] * Lizzy pets vifino
L243[07:49:16] <vifino> I'm not late, I was sleeeepyyyyy
L244[07:49:36] <vifino> You made me stay up past 3 am!
L245[07:49:47] * vifino purrs and snuggles Lizzy some more
L246[07:49:55] <Lizzy> you could have gone to bed at any time, y'know
L247[07:50:28] <Inari> ooooh
L248[07:50:30] <Inari> you did it all nigth
L249[07:50:31] <Inari> lewd
L250[07:50:55] * Saphire floofs
L251[07:51:05] <Saphire> owo
L252[07:51:12] <Trangar> lizzy and vifino, sitting in a tree
L253[07:52:08] <Saphire> lewding
L254[07:52:10] <Lizzy> Trangar, that's nothing new
L255[07:52:13] <Lizzy> :P
L256[07:52:36] <Saphire> when Is the next episode?
L257[07:52:36] <Trangar> I mean, tree climbing is bad-ass
L258[07:52:43] <KittyKath> Liiiiizzzzzzzzyyy
L259[07:52:57] * Saphire nibbles on kath
L260[07:52:58] <vifino> Lizzy: i had more than enough motive to stay up
L261[07:53:02] <vifino> Kathderp!
L262[07:53:07] <Trangar> Gah, you guys make me miss noiro
L263[07:53:32] <vifino> Sorry :(
L264[07:53:36] <Trangar> It's fine
L265[07:53:45] <Lizzy> Kaaaathyyyyyy
L266[07:53:50] <Lizzy> :D
L267[07:54:05] <Inari> Katttthhhliiiiiiizzzzyyyy
L268[07:54:14] <KittyKath> Lizzy, actually my regex is ([Kk]ath(y|leen|[Ii]sa[Kk]itty)|[Dd]ean(4[Dd]evil|[Ii]sa[Kk]itty)?)
L269[07:54:18] <Lizzy> that still pinged me
L270[07:54:28] <Inari> wait
L271[07:54:34] <Inari> KittyKath is DeanIsaKitty?
L272[07:54:38] <KittyKath> =.=
L273[07:54:39] <Saphire> yup
L274[07:54:43] <Inari> omg
L275[07:54:46] <Inari> thi changes everything
L276[07:54:51] * Lizzy pours paint on Inari
L277[07:54:55] * Saphire nibbles Inari
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L279[07:54:56] <Inari> D: nande
L280[07:55:00] <KittyKath> Do you even whois Inari?
L281[07:55:05] <Saphire> ^
L282[07:55:14] <Inari> i dont randomyl whois everyone in the channel, no
L283[07:55:58] <KittyKath> On that note though.... KittyKath will not match that regex. -.-
L284[07:56:17] <Trangar> It will if you add a + at the end
L285[07:56:27] <Trangar> Then KittyKittyKittyKathKathKath will ping you as well
L286[07:56:45] <KittyKath> That already pings me
L287[07:56:54] <Trangar> Of course it does...
L288[07:57:55] <vifino> KathIsaDevil doesn't ping you, does it?
L289[07:58:00] <KittyKath> Nope.
L290[07:58:02] <vifino> Shucks.
L291[07:58:12] <KittyKath> KathIsaDerp neither.
L292[07:58:13] <Lizzy> cause KathIsanAngel :3
L293[07:59:17] <Skye> you need to add all of them to your regex! :P
L294[07:59:22] <vifino> Gawd, my everything hurts
L295[07:59:25] <Saphire> miu
L296[07:59:31] <KittyKath> Skye: Can't be bothered.
L297[07:59:37] <Saphire> vifino: after what oo
L298[07:59:48] * vifino curls up on Lizzy and falls asleep again
L299[07:59:58] * Saphire nibbles KittyKath and wonders how much kitty they are
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L301[08:07:19] <KittyKath> Saphire: Enough ;P
L302[08:07:41] * Saphire nibbles on the ears
L303[08:09:38] <Izaya> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linksys_WRT54G_series#WRT54GL So I have 4 v1.1s of these
L304[08:10:05] <Saphire> why
L305[08:10:26] <Izaya> Can't have enough good functional WiFi routers
L306[08:10:41] <Izaya> So, what's the preferred OSS image for something like this?
L307[08:10:49] <KittyKath> OpenWRT probably
L308[08:12:08] <vifino> OpenWRT.
L309[08:12:20] <Izaya> well then
L310[08:12:29] <Izaya> I guess I've ended up with 4 OpenWRT routers
L311[08:12:54] <vifino> Even though 4mb flash is quite low, so you better get an USB stick as extroot/overlay.
L312[08:13:03] <Izaya> " It is possible to install OpenWrt directly with the Linksys web GUI. If you are initially installing OpenWrt use the Linksys web GUI, this is the easiest way. "
L313[08:13:08] <vifino> Plus, 16mb ram is also very very low.
L314[08:13:15] <Izaya> No USB port
L315[08:13:30] <vifino> Then you are boned.
L316[08:13:45] <Skye> custom compile your own things?
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L319[08:13:55] <Izaya> welp this will be interesting
L320[08:14:00] <vifino> Skye: He has to do that anyways to make it fit on 4mb flash.
L321[08:14:08] <Mimiru> ugh wtf
L322[08:15:55] <Mimiru> Ok, oclogs is back up
L323[08:15:58] <Mimiru> nginx crashed
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L332[08:28:53] <Izaya> what
L333[08:28:57] <Izaya> vifino: it's running DD-WRT
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L335[08:34:47] <vifino> ew dd-wrt
L336[08:35:24] <Izaya> hey it's better than whatever standard crap they normally come with
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L338[08:37:08] <Inari> Lizzster
L339[08:37:09] <KittyKath> Izaya: People hating DD-WRT is as popular as People hating RHEL/RedHat. Get used to it.
L340[08:37:33] <Izaya> it's just I'm surprised
L341[08:37:54] <Izaya> how often do you get second-hand gear running something other than a stock image?
L342[08:38:06] <vifino> KittyKath: q_q
L343[08:38:32] * Lizzy has DD-WRT on the router under her feet
L344[08:38:42] <KittyKath> vifino: You *do* realize OpenWRT is a fork of DD-WRT and they profit from each other, don't you?
L345[08:39:38] <vifino> KittyKath: I do.
L346[08:39:48] <KittyKath> Izaya: Thing is though - for LinkSys DD-WRT is the stock.
L347[08:39:57] <Izaya> really?
L348[08:40:05] <KittyKath> They developed DD-WRT...
L349[08:40:15] <Izaya> but I have another linksys running some crap on my desk
L350[08:40:39] <KittyKath> They developed it for some specific Router generation. Don't ask me specifics though.
L351[08:40:53] <Izaya> maybe it's not on some consumer routers
L352[08:41:19] <KittyKath> Mebbe. Also I'm not sure if it's still on their latest models because Firmware lockdown regulations.
L353[08:42:46] <KittyKath> vifino: Do you happen to know if you can get cheap consumer-grade pure wired routers?
L354[08:43:35] <vifino> Don't think there will be cheap ones in masses.
L355[08:45:25] <vifino> However, you can get a relatively cheap and good one with wifi and just remove the antennas and disable the radios. The wired-only ones are rather uncommon nowadays.
L356[08:45:29] <Saphire> wow
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L358[08:45:49] <Saphire> my headphones are good o.o
L359[08:46:18] <KittyKath> vifino: While that is true the definite advantage that pure wired ones have is that they will never have to be locked-down because wireless firmware. But I guess I'll look for cheap ones with GigabitEthernet and bad Wi-Fi :P
L360[08:46:28] <Izaya> TKIP, AES, or TKIP+AES?
L361[08:46:37] <KittyKath> Izaya: Definitely AES.
L362[08:47:49] <S3> Yay it works now!
L363[08:48:01] <vifino> KittyKath: Personally, I said "Fuck it" to normal routers after TP-Link pulled the firmware lockdown. Made me switch from my usual router preference (Archer C7) to a mini pc running pfsense with a USB3 gbit nic as the second nic.
L364[08:48:13] <S3> Izaya: TKIP is kind of meh
L365[08:48:24] <vifino> I have purchased like 3 or 4 of these Archer C7's.
L366[08:48:32] <vifino> I really loved them. :(
L367[08:48:40] <S3> It's mostly for backward compat with WPA1
L368[08:48:55] <KittyKath> Izaya: If you care about the reasons: a) TKIP uses RC4 as underlying algorith and is breakable in that way and via WEP b) CCMP (official name for "AES") uses better encryption and message auth c) CCMP is actually faster.
L369[08:49:13] <Izaya> well then
L370[08:49:17] <Izaya> no competition
L371[08:49:57] <vifino> On that note, KittyKath, do you have any cheap wifi ac AP's?
L372[08:50:05] <vifino> know of*
L373[08:50:41] <S3> What's new in the ac standards
L374[08:51:09] <vifino> I'm currently using my dad's old apple time capsule thing. It "Works" except when my tablet connects, my (hardwired) desktop looses connection. q_q
L375[08:51:22] <KittyKath> vifino: 802.11ac? Nope, sorry. I'm using old-ish TP-Links because they are cheap and are not locked down.
L376[08:51:32] <vifino> Darn.
L377[08:51:41] <Izaya> incredible, this thing has dc but nothing else
L378[08:51:46] <Izaya> no fdisk even
L379[08:52:07] <Izaya> well, not nothing
L380[08:52:15] <Izaya> but it has dc but none of the standard utils
L381[08:53:04] <KittyKath> vifino: However, TPLink was so nice to make a list of locked down devices http://ml.ninux.org/pipermail/battlemesh/2016-February/004379.html so you can check if there are ones which support 802.11ac but are not locked down.
L382[08:53:35] <CompanionCube> http://routerboard.com/RB750r2 this seems to be a wired-only router for $40
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L384[08:53:49] <Izaya> so if I were to try to dump the disk on this
L385[08:55:00] <KittyKath> CompanionCube: TL-WR841N is 14€ and has as fast ethernet.
L386[08:55:09] <yoy> imgur.com/a/dROr6 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L387[08:55:14] <KittyKath> Which is exactly the problem actually :P
L388[08:55:24] <vifino> what the fuck.
L389[08:55:41] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/B0neande
L390[08:55:46] <vifino> CompanionCube: hAP ac lite, AC, fast ethernet only
L391[08:55:58] <vifino> WHY
L392[08:56:02] <CompanionCube> the gigabit version is $50
L393[08:56:10] <CompanionCube> http://routerboard.com/RB750Gr2
L394[08:57:01] <S3> vifino: yeah the FCC is kind of being a poop and handling wifi tx power lockdown the incorrect way
L395[08:58:01] <S3> but that's okay, because in my house I'm mounting a real antenna
L396[08:58:16] <S3> and I can just run a feed line down to one of the servers in the rack
L397[08:58:34] <S3> and then I can just use whatever I want
L398[08:59:03] <Izaya> are there any IRC clients written in sh?
L399[08:59:07] <vifino> yes
L400[08:59:12] <vifino> bash, rather
L401[08:59:14] <S3> netcat!
L402[08:59:15] <S3> :)
L403[08:59:17] <Izaya> this has ash
L404[08:59:19] <S3> lololol
L405[08:59:23] <vifino> S3: netcat is not written in sh.
L406[08:59:26] <S3> ash will work
L407[08:59:35] <S3> vifino: take a joke :P
L408[08:59:42] <vifino> Noooope.
L409[08:59:49] * S3 spins around yelling wheeee
L410[08:59:52] <CompanionCube> Izaya, yes
L411[09:00:07] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/ianmurrays/irc.sh
L412[09:00:12] <vifino> CompanionCube: This gbit version of the hAP, man, it has sfp :(
L413[09:00:39] <S3> Lol so dirty
L414[09:01:21] <Izaya> 2k of sh
L415[09:01:27] <Izaya> CompanionCube: brb IRCing from router
L416[09:02:07] <S3> That was an interesting sound..
L417[09:02:20] <S3> a friend of mine just stripped wires with his teeth whil ethey were plugged into mains
L418[09:02:54] <vifino> wat.
L419[09:03:04] <Izaya> ... it doesn't work
L420[09:03:54] <Izaya> ... /dev/root is a squashfs
L421[09:03:58] <Izaya> I guess it figures
L422[09:04:01] <Izaya> but it's a pain
L423[09:04:31] <Lizzy> \o/ got steam running on Arch
L424[09:04:31] <Izaya> according to /etc/fstab it's ext2 but hey whatever
L425[09:09:22] <Saphire> Lizzy: sudo pacman -Syu steam? :D
L426[09:09:38] <Lizzy> Saphire, it's a lot more than that
L427[09:09:53] <Saphire> right, drivers
L428[09:09:59] <Saphire> Q_Q
L429[09:10:04] <Lizzy> you have to first enable the multilib repo, then get relevant drivers
L430[09:10:09] <Saphire> my ears just.. hurt
L431[09:10:16] <Lizzy> it's even more fun with nVidia's Optimus
L432[09:10:21] <Saphire> i feel like music lacks something..
L433[09:10:29] * Saphire was playing a bit with equalizer and then just disabled it
L434[09:10:49] <Saphire> maybe i should just sleep >_>
L435[09:10:56] <S3> Saphire: it does
L436[09:11:04] <S3> Music lacks words, without words, it is only music, not a song.
L437[09:11:15] <S3> not that that is a bad thig
L438[09:11:17] <Saphire> >words
L439[09:11:18] <S3> thing*
L440[09:11:20] <Saphire> ._.
L441[09:11:27] <S3> well it's true :D
L442[09:11:32] * Saphire shudders and curls up around S3
L443[09:11:35] <Saphire> halp
L444[09:11:44] * Saphire suddenly remembered those pop "songs"
L445[09:11:53] <Saphire> repeatition.. so much Q_Q
L446[09:12:03] <Saphire> uh.. repetition?
L447[09:12:55] <S3> speaking of music I need to get my guitar out today and give it some exercise
L448[09:13:46] * Saphire looks at her piano..
L449[09:13:49] <Saphire> uh..
L450[09:13:51] * Saphire hides
L451[09:15:10] <Saphire> huh
L452[09:15:15] <S3> play it!
L453[09:15:19] <Saphire> the whole time that music was on repeat
L454[09:15:23] <Saphire> i ddin't even noticed
L455[09:15:45] <Saphire> either i have some problems or it's just a good music
L456[09:17:48] <S3> Okay guys
L457[09:17:52] <S3> I need suggestions
L458[09:17:58] <Izaya> so apparently I can throw aircrack on these routers
L459[09:18:17] <S3> How would you guys like to have Ocranet connectivity support in OpenOS (not OC in general)
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L461[09:18:34] <Saphire> ...
L462[09:18:37] <Saphire> what
L463[09:18:42] <Saphire> how did i messed that o.o
L464[09:18:44] <Saphire> "Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition"
L465[09:19:34] <S3> There are a few ways to do it. it would be splendid if there was an API somebody has for running background processes but
L466[09:19:39] <Lizzy> I've been hearing about this Ocranet, S3 is there a page where i can get more info on it?
L467[09:21:19] <S3> Lizzy: I really need to put all of the RFCs and stuff I've half written and put them all in a page. I do have this: I've got this in my browser history, but it's only protocol spec for OCRMS-1 http://hastebin.com/xamapojeti.txt
L468[09:21:42] <S3> i'm starting network development tests today
L469[09:21:58] <Lizzy> coolio
L470[09:22:22] <Izaya> ffff this box doesn't have vmx
L471[09:22:54] <S3> Lizzy: the real goal is inter-server communication
L472[09:24:08] <Izaya> it's a good thing I have 4 of these fucks
L473[09:24:15] <Izaya> if this thing gets bricked I'm not too worried
L474[09:24:18] <Izaya> I have 3 more
L475[09:24:25] <S3> Izaya: look in the bios
L476[09:24:36] <S3> it is usually disabled by default
L477[09:24:39] <Izaya> S3: no the CPU doesn't support it
L478[09:24:43] <S3> damn
L479[09:24:56] <S3> some systems won't even show it in cpuinfo until you enable it
L480[09:24:57] <Izaya> Pentium Dual E2200
L481[09:24:58] <S3> which is weird
L482[09:25:03] <S3> I see
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L485[09:31:18] <vifino> S3: You wanna fix LING with me?
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L488[09:36:06] <S3> how did you break it?
L489[09:36:22] * Saphire lings
L490[09:36:24] <Inari> Shuudoushi: the heck
L491[09:36:45] <Inari> how is one now privileged for not havin ghad to work as a watier/barista/bartender or salesperson, also are they implying there arent any people who like being bartenders Oo
L492[09:36:47] <S3> Saphire: Erlang
L493[09:37:07] <vifino> S3: OTP 17 only, posix platform is stubbed as all hell, doesn't support the extra kernel arguments, etc..
L494[09:37:25] <vifino> I just want a darn single binary OTP. :(
L495[09:38:09] <S3> iirc there was an erlangonxen channel..
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L497[09:38:12] <S3> on some network
L498[09:38:27] <vifino> probably dead.
L499[09:38:54] <S3> It was pretty active a year ago
L500[09:39:00] <S3> ad their website has been updated since..
L501[09:39:36] <Izaya> Welp.
L502[09:39:42] <Izaya> Looks like I'm getting ethernet in my room.
L503[09:39:52] <Izaya> I can use these to bridge wifi -> ethernet
L504[09:40:44] <vifino> That sounds like a horrible idea. I like it.
L505[09:42:00] <Izaya> well people get annoyed when I run ethernet cables along ceilings, walls and floors, and even through the roof cavity
L506[09:42:13] <Izaya> so if I do wifi -> ethernet I can hook up as many boxen in my room as I like
L507[09:42:18] <Izaya> guess I need to find a monitor
L508[09:42:48] <vifino> My favourite monitor brand is ssh.
L509[09:43:00] <S3> ...
L510[09:43:15] <Izaya> no I mean to hook up a desktop
L511[09:43:24] <S3> I have two Gateway 22" 2048x1536 CRT monitors that are 140 watts a piece.
L512[09:43:58] <Izaya> I need to write a script to disable and re-enable wifi
L513[09:44:03] <Trangar> One of your monitors has a higher resolution than my 3 monitors combined
L514[09:44:13] <S3> Lol
L515[09:44:23] <vifino> rfkill block all && rfkill unblock all # Izaya?
L516[09:44:30] <S3> Oh! Trangar
L517[09:44:30] <Izaya> also nice CRTs, insane refresh rate?
L518[09:44:33] <Izaya> vifino: pretty much
L519[09:44:41] <S3> oh crap you're not Sangar
L520[09:44:42] <S3> nvm
L521[09:44:47] <Trangar> :(
L522[09:44:55] <Trangar> I know, I'm dissapointing
L523[09:44:57] <Izaya> it's a pain to right click on network manager, disable wifi, right click on network manager and enable wifi
L524[09:44:59] <S3> lol
L525[09:45:12] <S3> NetworkManager is an awful Network Manager
L526[09:45:19] <S3> first of all, it fights you
L527[09:45:26] <Izaya> hey mint ships with it and I've ended up with mint on an S10e
L528[09:45:39] <Izaya> and I don't use it often enough to do anything about it
L529[09:45:47] <S3> if you set an interface with ifconfig, instead of going, oh- I will just allow that, it fights you and gets pissed off and forces shit to be its own preference
L530[09:46:04] <vifino> Fix it, then, S3.
L531[09:46:08] <Trangar> S3, I lied, one of your screen has 3145728 pixels, my 3 screens combined have 4695040
L532[09:46:17] <S3> :)
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L534[09:46:43] <S3> but mine is also 4:3
L535[09:46:50] <Trangar> 2x 1280x1024 and a 1920x1080
L536[09:46:55] <Trangar> Yeah my 2 screens on the side are 4:3
L537[09:46:56] <S3> so when you have a desk that can hold both of them..
L538[09:47:05] <S3> they're 70 pounds each
L539[09:47:25] <Trangar> My desk is bolted to the wall, so they could probably hold the screens
L540[09:47:35] <Trangar> Depending on how big the foot on the screen is
L541[09:47:36] <S3> I have a couple of desks that won't
L542[09:47:36] <Izaya> I have a 1680x1050 in the middle, with two 1440x900s on the sides
L543[09:47:42] <S3> they will but I wouldn't trust it
L544[09:47:50] <Izaya> https://u.pomf.is/yodizm.png
L545[09:47:54] <Trangar> Can't you just bolt them to the wall directly?
L546[09:47:57] <S3> not when the desk bows when I put just one on
L547[09:48:03] * Izaya uses all the bandwidth
L548[09:48:08] <S3> that desk is not freestanding
L549[09:48:13] <S3> it is built into the wall XD
L550[09:48:18] <S3> so it has no legs
L551[09:48:28] <S3> it's 100% custom though which is nice
L552[09:48:39] <Trangar> My desk is mostly bolted to the wall, except for the sides which have legs
L553[09:48:52] <Trangar> My dad made this one, but he underestimated how much desk I needed :D
L554[09:48:59] <S3> lol
L555[09:49:00] <Trangar> But I'm moving out in less than a year so w/e
L556[09:49:09] <S3> Why is that?
L557[09:49:51] <Trangar> Moving to the US
L558[09:50:01] <S3> Where to?
L559[09:50:18] <Trangar> Probably california, that's where the company I work for has a couple of customers
L560[09:50:24] <Trangar> I currently live in dutchyland, europe
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L562[09:53:43] <Izaya> I'm sure the next few years in the US will be interesting
L563[09:54:10] <Trangar> Americans sure know how to keep things interesting
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L569[10:27:01] <S3> wtf is going on
L570[10:27:42] <Trangar> "President Obama Has His Last Laughs At 2016 White House Correspondents' Dinner"
L571[10:27:47] <Trangar> "Iraqi prime minister orders arrest of troublemaking protesters"
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L573[10:29:51] <yoy> "yoy wants Trangar to stop pasting news headlines"
L574[10:29:53] <yoy> More at 6
L575[10:29:58] <Trangar> :D
L576[10:30:04] <Trangar> Hey s3 asked what was going on
L577[10:30:27] <yoy> S3: Thegovernmentisinshambles
L578[10:30:34] <yoy> Thepeopleareindistress
L579[10:30:48] <yoy> wemustoverthrow
L580[10:30:51] <S3> I was referring to select()
L581[10:30:55] <yoy> Oh
L582[10:30:56] <S3> my TCP socket is being a dick
L583[10:31:03] <yoy> wemustreimplementselect()
L584[10:31:06] <S3> another reason I hate TCP
L585[10:31:07] <S3> lol
L586[10:31:42] <S3> TCP makes stream multiplexing harder than it has to bve
L587[10:31:44] <S3> be*
L588[10:31:53] <Trangar> Just implement your own protocol
L589[10:31:55] <yoy> S3: I'm using you as a testing string in my IRC app
L590[10:31:56] <Trangar> That's what Factorio did
L591[10:32:04] <S3> ?
L592[10:32:26] <Inari> where does "S3" even come from
L593[10:32:29] <Trangar> The devs of www.factorio.com implemented their own networking protocol over UDP
L594[10:32:41] <Inari> Trangar: many networked games do
L595[10:32:48] <Inari> its better than using TCP if you do it right
L596[10:32:49] <S3> That's what you're supposed to do
L597[10:32:49] <S3> :P
L598[10:32:52] <Inari> at least ofr realtime games
L599[10:32:54] <Inari> and the like
L600[10:33:11] <yoy> S3: http://i.imgur.com/udfXS7i.png
L601[10:33:12] <Trangar> Factorio uses lockstep, so they only sync user input and crc's
L602[10:33:20] <S3> Inari: I have to handle tons of sockets because TCP is lame, because sangar didn't put like an extra two lines in there to add UDP support
L603[10:33:20] <Trangar> And the initial map load
L604[10:33:33] <S3> oops that was for Trangar not Inari
L605[10:33:43] <yoy> Right now I'm in the middle of testing Spannable with links and stuff
L606[10:33:44] <Trangar> T and I are close together
L607[10:33:54] <S3> with UDP you can have one socket for every connection
L608[10:34:02] <S3> which actually reduces cpu time
L609[10:34:06] <S3> (if you do it right)
L610[10:34:06] <Trangar> Yeah I know how UDP works
L611[10:34:40] <Trangar> I should continue my 3D engine at one point
L612[10:34:52] <S3> but the thing is read() and IO::Select don't always play very well
L613[10:35:04] <Inari> make it a 4D engine
L614[10:35:09] <S3> I'm reading the buffer 52 bytes at a time
L615[10:35:16] <Izaya> so here's a fun thing I can do: because the mac fails at using mpd but mpv works fine, I'll run mpd on a remote box and play the music through the mac's speakers
L616[10:35:36] <S3> If you get any packet that is not EXACTLY 52 bytes you get disconnected from the Ocranet switch
L617[10:36:50] <S3> At least that is how my code works
L618[10:36:54] <Trangar> Inari, I mean, it does involve time, so technically it's 4D
L619[10:37:17] <Inari> 4 spatial dimensions
L620[10:37:21] <S3> unless of course, you are in OCRM-1 mode, but that isn't implemented yet
L621[10:38:06] <Trangar> 1-tick game
L622[10:38:13] <Trangar> New ludum dare topic
L623[10:38:16] <S3> games that are tick based are annoying
L624[10:38:44] <Trangar> So like minecraft?
L625[10:38:44] <S3> Minecraft may have been much better with an event router
L626[10:39:05] <S3> it's not just games
L627[10:39:17] <S3> even operating systems have moved away from tick based stuff
L628[10:39:34] <S3> It's a very old and imo, not very good practice
L629[10:39:48] <Trangar> I usually have an update with dTime
L630[10:39:58] <Trangar> Does that qualify as tick based?
L631[10:42:00] <S3> if it is used as a timing driver
L632[10:42:19] <Trangar> Position += Direction * Speed * dTime;
L633[10:42:46] <Inari> #pls
L634[10:42:49] <Inari> all games are tick based
L635[10:43:05] <S3> you know, velocity = (dy/dx)(position)
L636[10:43:31] <Trangar> Well 3D, but yes
L637[10:43:33] <S3> aka, displacement over time
L638[10:43:39] <S3> but
L639[10:43:52] <S3> have you ever considered
L640[10:44:01] <gamax92> yes
L641[10:44:10] <Trangar> yes
L642[10:44:12] <S3> Therefore
L643[10:44:20] <gamax92> :o
L644[10:44:24] <S3> Velociraptor is (Dispraptor / timeraptor)
L645[10:44:56] <S3> and Time raptor = Time lord / time machine?
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L647[10:45:39] <S3> And!
L648[10:45:42] <S3> therefore
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L650[10:46:03] <S3> Velociraptor = (dy/dx)(Posiraptror)
L651[10:46:05] <Trangar> I feel like you're making a dr who reference
L652[10:46:41] <Izaya> Well. This is somewhat of a kludge.
L653[10:46:44] <S3> Which, Posiraptor is made of positrons.
L654[10:46:52] <S3> which is antimatter
L655[10:46:57] <Izaya> 192.168.1.21:/share /mnt/asakura nfs defaults,user 0 0
L656[10:46:59] <Izaya> /mnt/asakura/Music /var/lib/mpd/music none bind 0 0
L657[10:47:19] <Izaya> I don't know how much it'll like that after a reboot
L658[10:48:03] <S3> silly people and their 192.168 networks
L659[10:48:13] <gamax92> Silly Steam
L660[10:48:18] <gamax92> "1.0.0.127"
L661[10:48:42] <Trangar> S3, why don't you take another beer?
L662[10:49:47] <S3> My home network is 44.128.167.64/28
L663[10:49:48] <S3> :)
L664[10:50:03] <S3> well, one of them
L665[10:50:15] <S3> I have another 44.128.0.0/27
L666[10:50:23] <Izaya> Once I redo the routing I'm going to use 10.16.0.0/16
L667[10:50:24] <S3> which is somewhere else
L668[10:51:00] <S3> Believe it or not, those are private IP blocks
L669[10:51:16] <S3> however, I do have public IP blocks in 44/8
L670[10:52:51] <Mimiru> AMPRNet, yeah?
L671[10:53:04] <gamax92> ASMRNet
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L674[10:54:22] <Mimiru> %wiki AMPRNet
L675[10:54:22] <MichiBot> Mimiru: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMPRNet - AMPRNet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: "The AMPRNet (AMateur Packet Radio Network) is a name used by amateur radio
L676[10:54:28] <Mimiru> ah
L677[10:54:29] <Mimiru> I was right
L678[10:54:34] <Trangar> S3, does your name mean "snarky, sexy and single"?
L679[10:54:37] <Mimiru> anyway gotta go get food
L680[10:55:38] <S3> Trangar: no.
L681[10:55:50] <S3> it is the name of a tank in one of my favorite games.
L682[10:55:51] <Trangar> Oh...
L683[10:56:02] <S3> which, was probably out before you were even born :P
L684[10:56:03] <Trangar> Sorry you don't qualify then
L685[10:56:32] <Trangar> What game was that?
L686[10:56:37] <S3> Blaster Master
L687[10:56:46] <Trangar> That sounds really old
L688[10:56:48] <Izaya> not Master Blaster?
L689[10:56:54] <S3> Blaster Master
L690[10:56:57] <Trangar> 1988, 2 years before I was born
L691[10:57:00] <Trangar> Pretty close
L692[10:57:01] <S3> :)
L693[10:57:05] <S3> close! heh
L694[10:57:14] <S3> I have it on my NES
L695[10:58:00] <Trangar> I've never had anything other than a pc
L696[10:58:12] <S3> Really?
L697[10:58:14] <Trangar> I payed pokemon on visualboy advanced emulators when I was little :D
L698[10:58:16] <S3> you missed out
L699[10:58:17] <Trangar> Yeah, pc master race
L700[10:58:32] <S3> I had pokemon on the real thing
L701[10:58:33] <S3> :)
L702[10:58:41] <S3> I wonder where my blue cart went..
L703[10:58:50] <Trangar> I had save states :P
L704[10:58:58] <S3> cheater
L705[10:59:04] <Trangar> It's not cheating if you get what you want!
L706[10:59:18] <S3> but I have to admit I do the same with super mario world in some later stages because WTF OMG WHY
L707[10:59:27] <S3> on my xbox heh
L708[10:59:30] <Saphire> flap
L709[10:59:34] <Trangar> I only get 1 master ball, and 3 legendaries? Fuck that shit
L710[10:59:41] <S3> I guess there's this thing where if you have save states you'll do it
L711[10:59:45] <S3> but if you don't you'll live with it
L712[10:59:46] <S3> heh
L713[10:59:50] <Trangar> I mean
L714[10:59:58] <S3> Trangar: you can dupe the master ball
L715[11:00:02] <Trangar> Does it really matter if you save before a legendary fight, or use save states during the fight?
L716[11:00:18] <S3> it kinda does
L717[11:00:36] <S3> I dare you to play Terranigma without saves states
L718[11:00:50] <S3> there are bosses in that game that last half an hour and then have like a 15 minute second stage after
L719[11:00:54] <S3> it's horrid
L720[11:00:58] <Izaya> https://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/cdetest.png whatd'ya guys think?
L721[11:01:10] <Trangar> I think I've seen that game
L722[11:01:10] <S3> not found
L723[11:01:16] <Izaya> fuck
L724[11:01:20] <S3> lol
L725[11:01:22] <S3> Nice 404
L726[11:01:25] <Trangar> S3, try playing chrono trigger and randomly going in the final boss fight and not having a save where you can leave any more
L727[11:01:25] <Izaya> https://lain.shadowkat.net/~izaya/img/cdetest.png
L728[11:01:31] <Trangar> I quit that game forever
L729[11:01:35] <Izaya> I never test it because this box is slow as shit
L730[11:01:55] <S3> lol
L731[11:02:02] <S3> wait.. I know that WM
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L735[11:02:23] <yoy> shit
L736[11:02:26] <S3> thinking...
L737[11:02:35] <S3> well it's not fvwm..
L738[11:02:45] <yoy> Keyboard focus does not follow new windows that open
L739[11:02:58] <yoy> Or windows that go to the top
L740[11:03:01] <yoy> .------------.
L741[11:03:01] <Izaya> nope, not fvwm
L742[11:03:03] <S3> it's definately not window maker
L743[11:03:07] <S3> and it's not icewm
L744[11:03:09] <Izaya> not wmaker either
L745[11:03:11] <Izaya> not icewm
L746[11:03:22] <S3> definjately not old school xfce..
L747[11:03:23] <Izaya> you're thinking along the right lines though
L748[11:03:27] <S3> not uwm either..
L749[11:03:38] <S3> ..........
L750[11:03:43] <S3> I HAVE USED THAT WINDOW MANAGER WTF
L751[11:03:54] <S3> It used to come with Slackware years ago
L752[11:03:58] <Izaya> are you perhaps looking for... CDE?
L753[11:04:07] <S3> ....
L754[11:04:10] <Izaya> because I tried to make XFCE look like CDE
L755[11:04:18] <Izaya> still in progress
L756[11:04:44] <S3> it's similar, but CDE was like.. ew
L757[11:05:02] <S3> just run CDE :P
L758[11:05:09] <Izaya> I can't get CDE to work q_q
L759[11:05:15] <S3> why not?
L760[11:05:26] <Izaya> 32-bit, 64-bit, arch, debian, it just hangs when I log in
L761[11:06:19] <S3> HOLY CRAP
L762[11:06:24] <S3> CDE is 59 MB of source code?!
L763[11:06:29] <gamax92> HOLY CRAP
L764[11:06:36] <gamax92> I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT BUTTER?
L765[11:06:37] <S3> you know 10 years ago the linux kernel was like, less than that
L766[11:06:58] <Izaya> don't doubt the collaboration of the commercial UNIX vendors
L767[11:07:23] <S3> I'm going to compile it
L768[11:07:29] <S3> But I use Fluxboix
L769[11:07:32] <S3> Fluxbox*
L770[11:07:38] <gamax92> Mahtey
L771[11:27:40] <gamax92> S3
L772[11:27:45] <S3> hmm
L773[11:27:50] <gamax92> MATE
L774[11:27:56] <gamax92> D:<
L775[11:28:00] <S3> Mate is okay..
L776[11:28:06] <S3> but it's still a DE
L777[11:28:10] <gamax92> mmhm
L778[11:30:30] <S3> OK!
L779[11:30:35] <S3> The switch is on its wa
L780[11:30:36] <S3> way*
L781[11:31:15] <S3> does OC Internet card work with ipv6?
L782[11:31:37] <S3> It might.. I think that the jvm implementation of sockets doesn't care..
L783[11:31:37] <S3> iirc
L784[11:31:45] <S3> I'd have to look
L785[11:37:03] <Saphire> O.o
L786[11:37:21] <Saphire> it's kinda scary how old is wine and just how much things are still "stub"
L787[11:38:27] <Saphire> oh my
L788[11:39:14] <Saphire> dx11 in wine is... not optimal
L789[11:42:04] <S3> You know what's cool
L790[11:42:29] <S3> is that Ocranet is going to allow you to transmit and receive data to / from your servers while you are in single player
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L792[11:43:33] <Izaya> Will we be able to have standalone remote login clients?
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L795[11:44:04] <S3> Yes. You will have to write one
L796[11:44:16] <S3> for like ssh to your Oc computer on a server?
L797[11:44:30] <Izaya> yes
L798[11:44:45] <S3> yeah, i mean all I am doing is providing the network
L799[11:44:59] <S3> It's not limited or anything
L800[11:45:07] <Izaya> my OS supports remote login 'easily' and is meant to be used with a VT-102 compatible terminal
L801[11:45:26] <Izaya> so if I can log into my servers from my real desktop
L802[11:45:37] <Izaya> or even better, from the CRT Mac
L803[11:45:42] <Izaya> that'd kick ass
L804[11:45:53] <S3> you can. You will need to create a gateway to the Internet in order to do that. It is in my plan to allow people to make special routes for that
L805[11:46:15] <S3> but you know what it really makes it nice for?
L806[11:46:21] <Izaya> What about just connecting as a client?
L807[11:46:32] <S3> all you need is a way to get in
L808[11:46:35] <Izaya> ie pretending to be an OC computer
L809[11:46:53] <S3> a network is a network is a network, it just forwards data
L810[11:49:05] <S3> Inari: in later versions of the perl switch
L811[11:49:17] <S3> I may provide the option to install Linux::TunTap or something
L812[11:49:29] <S3> so that you can map IP addresses IRL on your desktop to the Ocranet
L813[11:49:41] <Saphire> lol
L814[11:49:42] <S3> and just use IP routing to interface it
L815[11:49:46] <S3> but
L816[11:49:49] <Saphire> ...wine is basically winXP
L817[11:49:52] <Saphire> gosh
L818[11:49:57] <Inari> S3: wrong person
L819[11:49:59] <S3> Saphire: NT 5.x
L820[11:50:01] <S3> :)
L821[11:50:12] <S3> Inari: hey you! why are you standing in my way! :P
L822[11:50:16] <S3> lololol
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L824[11:52:13] <Izaya> Shiny
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L827[12:07:12] <CompanionCube> tfw, you find something interesting...but of course it's tied to Objective C and Apple, which means any hope of cross-platformness is kill
L828[12:07:51] <Inari> CompanionCube: so, what is it?
L829[12:08:16] <CompanionCube> http://objective.st/
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L840[12:42:39] <gamax92> S3 what are you doing
L841[12:42:59] <S3> I am writing up routing table forwarding
L842[12:43:03] <S3> for Ocranet
L843[12:43:07] <gamax92> S3: okay, keep it up
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L845[12:43:14] <S3> hopefully we'll have a working switch by the end of the day. why?
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L847[12:43:49] <gamax92> S3: Because I said so, or I'll cut your pay in half
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L850[12:45:34] <Inari> Temia: do you have an anti-flea collar?
L851[12:46:52] <S3> oh wow now I have 3 jobs
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L853[12:47:40] <Temia> ...no? .-.
L854[12:47:42] <Temia> Why would I?
L855[12:47:58] <S3> Temia: because the fleas are bad in antarctica
L856[12:48:14] <Temia> ... ??? D:
L857[12:48:18] <S3> lol
L858[12:48:46] <gamax92> tail tuff
L859[12:49:31] * Lizzy gets a brush and brushes Temia's fur
L860[12:50:25] <S3> I think 256 physical wires pr switch is reasonable
L861[12:50:31] <S3> that';s a big network switch
L862[12:50:46] <Lizzy> #lua 256/8
L863[12:50:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 32.0
L864[12:50:56] <S3> ?
L865[12:50:59] <S3> oh
L866[12:51:07] <Lizzy> that would make 32 cat6-grade cables
L867[12:51:12] <S3> lol
L868[12:51:14] <Lizzy> or rather, gigabit capable
L869[12:51:21] <Lizzy> #lua 256/4
L870[12:51:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 64.0
L871[12:51:26] <Lizzy> for 10/100
L872[12:51:39] <S3> ...
L873[12:51:54] <S3> If it can confuse you, each physical wire can handle 65536 simeltaneous connections.
L874[12:52:08] <yoy> #lua (""):byte(), 0x1D
L875[12:52:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 29 | 29
L876[12:52:12] <yoy> hmm
L877[12:52:13] <Lizzy> okay, not like ethernet then
L878[12:52:20] <S3> noo noo noo
L879[12:52:21] <Lizzy> or something
L880[12:52:22] <Lizzy> meh
L881[12:52:27] <S3> Ethernet is packet switching
L882[12:52:41] <S3> Ocranet is a telecom network
L883[12:52:55] <S3> 100% virtual circuit switching
L884[12:53:25] <S3> gamax92: how should OpenOS support be handled?
L885[12:53:42] <gamax92> libopenos
L886[12:53:45] <S3> If there is a background process API then I could create a network stack program or something
L887[12:53:50] <S3> what's that
L888[12:53:52] <gamax92> oh, you mean networking wise
L889[12:53:56] <S3> yeah
L890[12:53:58] <gamax92> I thought you were writing an os
L891[12:54:02] <S3> because I can see two ways it could be done
L892[12:54:07] <S3> yeah but this is for testing
L893[12:54:14] <S3> and people who just want to use OpenOS
L894[12:54:32] <gamax92> Linux is to BSD as OpenOS is to OCBSD
L895[12:54:41] <gamax92> a wrapper layer or whatnot
L896[12:54:43] <S3> one way would be to create a library for communicating over Ocranet, but it'd be nice if that could be extended to some background socket process
L897[12:54:54] <Saphire> what's ocbsd? o.o
L898[12:54:57] <gamax92> S3's project
L899[12:55:26] <S3> Saphire: Operating System
L900[12:55:45] <Saphire> ...
L901[12:55:52] <Saphire> rly?
L902[12:55:55] <gamax92> rly.
L903[12:55:55] <S3> Nothing to be seen hre
L904[12:55:56] <S3> here*
L905[12:56:05] * Saphire wonders what else can be named *BSD
L906[12:56:18] <S3> SaphireBSD?
L907[12:56:39] <S3> That actually has a ring to it
L908[12:56:40] <Trangar> S3BSD?
L909[12:56:48] <Saphire> i mean, how can *BSD be something else than OS?
L910[12:57:07] <S3> Trangar: nope! you're thinking of OCBSD's original based on name and idea framework OS, S3IX
L911[12:57:22] <S3> OCBSd -was- S3IX at one point
L912[12:57:37] <Trangar> Nah I'm thinking of S3RL
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L914[13:01:33] <S3> soon this should work
L915[13:02:33] <S3> There won't be any address lookups yet
L916[13:02:48] <S3> but we should at least be able to connect to the switch, assign ourselves a vpi and vci to some function callback
L917[13:02:55] <S3> and then send to that vci and vpi
L918[13:03:17] <Trangar> How many sockets are you using?
L919[13:03:51] <S3> Just one for now, though obviously more spawn in the background for the clients
L920[13:03:55] <S3> as they connect
L921[13:04:51] <S3> when you connect, the switch looks in its tableof paths, if it finds an empty slot, it puts your connection socket there and a gateway callback that resmbles your network pipeline
L922[13:05:00] <S3> (because you can do local service bots too)
L923[13:05:26] <S3> if it doesn't find an open slot in the 256 available ones, it closes the connection and will eventually send you a message saying, "LINE IS BUSY"
L924[13:05:38] <Trangar> Close first, send message later?
L925[13:05:41] <Trangar> That seems counterproductive
L926[13:05:54] <S3> you're reading it wrong :P
L927[13:06:00] <S3> It doesn't say anything yet
L928[13:06:09] <S3> It just dumps your connection
L929[13:06:44] <S3> and that is just for path creation
L930[13:06:58] <Skye> S3, how many connections can there be per client?
L931[13:06:59] <S3> a switch <------> switch connection is the same but to the user is different
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L933[13:07:15] <S3> Skye: enough :)
L934[13:07:19] <S3> Let's see..
L935[13:07:30] <S3> for a UNI switch, 65536 connections per line.
L936[13:07:44] <S3> with OCRM you can bond multiple lines together.
L937[13:07:53] <S3> that feature is not ready
L938[13:07:59] <S3> we are stuck with OCRS
L939[13:08:32] <S3> Skye: path id is 8 bits, channel id is 16 bits
L940[13:08:56] <S3> so each switch has a maximum of 256 paths and 65536 channels per path
L941[13:09:29] <S3> UNI means user to network, so you a client connecting to a switch, and NNI is network to network, so a switch connecting to another switch
L942[13:09:49] <S3> each switch can have up to 256 UNI connections, 256 NNI connections, or a mixture of the two
L943[13:10:06] <S3> so technically speaking-
L944[13:11:00] <S3> a switch in th emiddle of the network connecting other switches can be connecting up to 256 other switches to it, each of which servicing up to 16777216 connections at the same time.
L945[13:11:27] <S3> Skye: so, how many connections per client? enough. :)
L946[13:11:49] <Skye> wow
L947[13:12:02] <S3> Of course, these numbers can be configured to be smaller
L948[13:12:11] <Skye> S3, and are there ways to get more connections with clever tricks?
L949[13:12:12] <S3> to reduce bandwidth
L950[13:12:17] <S3> yes.
L951[13:13:19] <S3> Skye: OCRM allows up to 157 packets to be transmitted at the same time in the same channel in one packet
L952[13:13:42] <Skye> wow
L953[13:13:49] <Skye> and...
L954[13:13:52] <S3> with the introcution of OCRM, connecting switches in parallel to provide both redundancy meshing and bandwidth increases is possible
L955[13:13:56] <Skye> what does OCRM stand for?
L956[13:14:04] <S3> OCRM is Ocranet Multiplex mode.
L957[13:14:07] <Skye> what does OCRS stand for?
L958[13:14:14] <S3> Ocranet Simplex mode.
L959[13:14:38] <S3> one sends one cell at a time, the other mashes up to 157 at a time in the same packet for higher bandwidth
L960[13:15:16] <S3> over the semester I've pretty much thought all of this out heh
L961[13:15:49] <S3> Skye: OCRM takes more cpu power.
L962[13:16:26] <Skye> S3, PLEASE document this all
L963[13:16:27] <S3> imagine you have five packets, when you send OCRM, the first byte of the first packet is sent, then the first byte of the second packet, then the first byte of the third packet, and so on
L964[13:16:30] <S3> I will
L965[13:16:46] <S3> so it is interlacing them in 8KB packets for massive bandwidth pushes
L966[13:17:04] <S3> and they are continuous streams too, so the packets just keep coming like a giant interlaced blob
L967[13:17:44] <S3> I do have an OCRS-1 (first revision OCRS) written up in a doc
L968[13:17:59] <S3> Skye: http://hastebin.com/xamapojeti.txt
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L970[13:19:47] <S3> Not worrying about it now, but gamax92 how would you like to handle authentication to switches?
L971[13:19:50] <S3> from MC
L972[13:20:29] <gamax92> donut steel
L973[13:20:40] <Skye> S3, why that strange number of bytes
L974[13:20:58] <S3> Skye: ATM is 53 bytes.
L975[13:21:07] <S3> I'm using 52 :P
L976[13:21:17] <S3> bytes, bits, etc it doesn't matter
L977[13:21:33] <Skye> make it a power of 2
L978[13:21:34] <S3> it matters a little in buffers, but that's about iut. networking is just a bunch of serial cables meshed together
L979[13:21:35] <Skye> well
L980[13:21:36] <Skye> too late
L981[13:21:39] <Skye> but,,,
L982[13:21:41] <Skye> :C
L983[13:21:58] <S3> It doesn't really need to be a power of two
L984[13:22:17] <Skye> but it looks nicer
L985[13:22:37] <Skye> and you can use bitshifting for calculations or something
L986[13:22:39] <S3> It looks nicer, but an odd number can be handy when you want to fit x ammount of data in a power of two and then have bitfields for other things
L987[13:23:07] <S3> this way you can use the remaining bits out of your power of two if you wish for a header or something
L988[13:23:13] <S3> or misc data
L989[13:23:32] <S3> Skye: the data field is 48 butes
L990[13:23:34] <S3> bytes*
L991[13:23:40] <S3> which isn't an odd number at all
L992[13:24:02] <S3> AND... 48 bits is a great number to have if you want to route this onto your raspberry pi via serial cable for example
L993[13:24:03] <S3> know why?
L994[13:24:16] <S3> 48 bytes*
L995[13:24:54] <S3> It's because serial data transfers like shit in powers of two
L996[13:24:56] <S3> :P
L997[13:25:04] <Skye> ?
L998[13:25:08] <S3> when it comes to timing
L999[13:25:15] <S3> for example
L1000[13:25:25] <S3> doing 9600 baud on 4 Mhz? bad idea
L1001[13:26:44] <S3> 4000000 / 417 = 9592.326 baud
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L1003[13:27:14] <Skye> ?
L1004[13:27:15] <S3> However Skye
L1005[13:27:25] <S3> at say 24 or 48Mhz
L1006[13:27:33] <S3> 48000000 / 5000 = 9600 baud. perfect :)
L1007[13:27:59] <S3> so now when you go back to your sizes in bytes and not bits
L1008[13:28:28] <S3> you can easily calculate how many cells, not bits you can transmit per second on average
L1009[13:28:34] <S3> and use that for bandwidth limiting
L1010[13:28:35] <Skye> u m
L1011[13:28:36] <Skye> okay
L1012[13:28:49] <S3> of course these are 52 byte cells but
L1013[13:28:58] <Skye> that's a problem
L1014[13:28:59] <S3> there are reasons why you'd want to use odd sizes :)
L1015[13:29:31] <S3> in my case, a primary reason is shared with ATM: 32 bytes is too short for a packet
L1016[13:29:35] <S3> but 64 is too long.
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L1018[13:29:47] <Skye> why?
L1019[13:29:54] <S3> jitter.
L1020[13:30:05] <S3> the shorter you canmake your packet the better
L1021[13:30:16] <S3> remember you have UDP or TCP overhead too
L1022[13:30:33] <S3> so they need to be as short as possible while still having enough room for data AND headers of the next layer
L1023[13:30:52] <S3> if this were packet switching then it would make more sense
L1024[13:31:34] <Skye> There needs to be a standard of emulating a normal OC network
L1025[13:32:19] <Saphire> ^
L1026[13:32:20] <S3> And even though it is sitting on top of the packet switched Internet, Being circuit switched in practice makes for a bit of changes to optimize efficiency, etc
L1027[13:32:29] <S3> Skye: ?
L1028[13:32:51] <Saphire> we need a standart for networking in OC i guess
L1029[13:33:26] <Skye> like
L1030[13:33:38] <Skye> programs don't need to be aware of the OCRANET to use it
L1031[13:33:59] <CompanionCube> I wish the OETF suddenly stopped being Vapourware
L1032[13:34:14] <Skye> CompanionCube++
L1033[13:34:24] <S3> Absolutely. Why would you ever want a program to know about that?
L1034[13:34:29] <yoy> vaporwave
L1035[13:34:38] * yoy turns into a statue
L1036[13:34:44] <S3> interface management should do it
L1037[13:35:04] <Skye> S3, well virtual network cards?
L1038[13:35:33] <S3> there's multiple ways to do it, but if say you had ifconfig, you would normally have an ifconfig interface for each VPI
L1039[13:35:39] <Lizzy> CompanionCube, currently the people hosting it have a lot of other stuff to be doing
L1040[13:35:48] <Lizzy> hmm
L1041[13:35:51] <S3> and wach interface would just carry up to 65536 channels simeltaneously
L1042[13:36:00] <Lizzy> would a subforum for it be useful, perhasps?
L1043[13:36:30] <S3> OETF?
L1044[13:36:40] <Lizzy> Open Engineering Task Force
L1045[13:36:48] <Lizzy> like IETF
L1046[13:36:52] <Lizzy> or whatever it is
L1047[13:37:36] * Lizzy prods Sangar
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L1049[13:38:20] <S3> Skye: but fortunately with Ocranet no layer 3 is needed.
L1050[13:38:47] <S3> it uses signalling instead of multi layer packet encapsulation
L1051[13:38:53] <S3> (but you can do that too)
L1052[13:39:22] <S3> VCI 0 is used for signalling
L1053[13:39:51] <S3> this is where you dial out connections, receive rings for new connections, etc
L1054[13:40:54] <S3> Izaya: I solved the loop problem.
L1055[13:42:36] <S3> I wrote something that basically allows for that to work
L1056[13:43:02] <Skye> ?
L1057[13:44:05] <Lizzy> %tell Sangar mind having a look at https://oc.cil.li/index.php?/topic/898-subforum-for-architecture-development/ when you get the chance?
L1058[13:44:05] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L1060[13:45:21] <S3> Lizzy: YAY!
L1061[13:45:49] <S3> Lizzy: yeah the other day I wondered if we could make it more generic for RFCs and Arch specs and protocols, etc
L1062[13:45:58] <Skye> Lizzy, but there also needs to be a place for other kind of standard / development stuff?
L1063[13:46:05] <Lizzy> Skye, ?
L1064[13:46:35] <S3> %tell Sangar We really need UDP.
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L1066[13:46:37] <CompanionCube> hm.
L1067[13:46:37] <S3> :)
L1068[13:47:19] * CompanionCube wonders if we need a wiki with perhaps more article metadata
L1069[13:47:22] <Skye> Lizzy, as OETF isn't up, maybe the forums could be used for it?
L1070[13:47:47] <CompanionCube> why not make OETF a git repository?
L1071[13:48:02] <S3> It just so happens that this smester I wrote a database engine that can be used to create network switches.. but I designed it for my game
L1072[13:48:15] <S3> could be very useful for meshing network loops
L1073[13:48:32] <Lizzy> Skye,
L1074[13:48:32] <Lizzy> <CompanionCube> I wish the OETF suddenly stopped being Vapourware
L1075[13:48:32] <Lizzy> ........
L1076[13:48:33] <Lizzy> <@Lizzy> CompanionCube, currently the people hosting it have a lot of other stuff to be doing
L1077[13:48:36] <Lizzy> <@Lizzy> hmm
L1078[13:48:36] <Lizzy> <@Lizzy> would a subforum for it be useful, perhasps?
L1079[13:48:49] <Skye> oh
L1080[13:51:15] <Lizzy> we do have https://github.com/OpenEngeneeringTaskForce
L1081[13:51:44] <Lizzy> not sure how much KittyKath got done and most of it is way over my head
L1082[13:52:16] <g> OETF: 502 bad gateway
L1083[13:53:01] <Lizzy> yeah, Kath has a lot of other stuff on at the monment so wouldn't be suprised if it's not up
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L1085[13:54:09] <CompanionCube> perhaps we could build a static OETF site using GitHub pages and a repo filled with specs/standards/docs
L1086[13:54:28] <Lizzy> Or we could do a subforum on the main forums
L1087[13:54:36] <Lizzy> or something
L1088[13:55:08] <CompanionCube> I like the ability of having any form of version control
L1089[13:55:25] <Lizzy> OR, Maybe have the static site or whatever for Published stuff and have the forums for discussing them
L1090[13:55:39] <CompanionCube> that makes sense
L1091[13:57:08] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/May/2016-05-01_19-54-23.png
L1092[13:57:09] <g> ?
L1093[13:57:10] <g> wat
L1094[13:58:22] <Lizzy> Added the OEFT section to my idea tee thingy on the subforum discussion topic
L1095[14:01:16] <CompanionCube> perhaps use GitHub pages to host the static published documents?
L1096[14:01:58] <Lizzy> Either that or have a repo with them in and I can then just pull it down to a webserver on each comit
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L1098[14:08:06] <CompanionCube> S3, Skye: any preferences?
L1099[14:09:16] <Skye> hm?
L1100[14:09:44] <CompanionCube> as to how to make the webby part
L1101[14:12:49] <CompanionCube> docpad/mkdocs/readthedocs seem most relevant
L1102[14:13:09] <Skye> there needs to be a way to rapidly iterate stuff
L1103[14:13:14] <Lizzy> I hate the layout of readthedocs sites
L1104[14:13:47] <yoy> #lua string.format("%X", 147)
L1105[14:13:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 93
L1106[14:14:25] <CompanionCube> traihttp://www.mkdocs.org/ ?
L1107[14:16:05] <S3> does anyone know if Immersive engineering cables need chunk loading?
L1108[14:16:15] <S3> or if I chunkload the ends of the cables will they just work
L1109[14:16:25] <S3> one on each long stretch
L1110[14:16:31] <Forecaster> just loading the nodes should work
L1111[14:16:40] <S3> okay, I was hoping so
L1112[14:17:03] <S3> so we can make several kilometer long loops if we -wanted- and then just chunkload the telecom switches on each end?
L1113[14:18:32] <S3> may be a good experiment
L1114[14:21:00] <vifino> Anyone has a copy of Fallout 4 laying around? I really wanna play it :v
L1115[14:21:09] * vifino is pretty broke
L1116[14:21:32] <Forecaster> you can't have mine D:<
L1117[14:21:57] <vifino> Forecaster: Why not? :<
L1118[14:22:17] <Forecaster> I'm saving it for when I can upgrade my computer so I can play it properly >:
L1119[14:22:40] <vifino> But I upgraded my computer and now I'm broke .-.
L1120[14:25:01] * gamax92 tapes vifino back together
L1121[14:25:24] * vifino is still broke
L1122[14:25:35] * Lizzy mends vifino
L1123[14:25:45] * CompanionCube restores vifino from latest backup
L1124[14:26:08] <vifino> I don't have any backups.
L1125[14:26:22] <CompanionCube> why not
L1126[14:26:41] <vifino> Cause.
L1127[14:27:42] <vifino> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
L1128[14:27:49] * Lizzy giggles
L1129[14:28:02] <vifino> LIZZY GIFTED ME FALLOUT 4!!1!!1¹¹¹¹
L1130[14:28:14] <Forecaster> :D
L1131[14:28:24] <gamax92> D:
L1132[14:28:24] <Lizzy> and the season pass
L1133[14:28:34] <Lizzy> man did both of those cost a lot
L1134[14:28:39] <Forecaster> oh hey, another youtube network invitation
L1135[14:28:45] <Lizzy> ?
L1136[14:28:49] <gamax92> "man did both of those cost a lot, you better enjoy it you little shit"
L1137[14:28:55] <Lizzy> ^
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L1139[14:29:10] <Forecaster> I was invited to another YouTube content network
L1140[14:29:18] <Forecaster> this one's called "Freedom" apparently
L1141[14:30:20] <Forecaster> "because you are focused on great videos we'd like to invite you to apply for a partnership with our fast growing YouTube network Freedom!"
L1142[14:30:51] <Forecaster> they're always "fast growing"
L1143[14:31:41] <bauen1> Forecaster: lemme guess, they have a lot of experience and a lot of other youtubers ?
L1144[14:35:36] <Mimiru> %p
L1145[14:35:37] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Mimiru 0.42s
L1146[14:35:40] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L1147[14:36:12] <yoy> #rainbow testing string
L1148[14:36:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > testing string
L1149[14:36:53] <Forecaster> bauen1: not this one
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L1152[14:43:49] <S3> yoy: now to start sending BEL
L1153[14:44:23] <S3> Bel bel bel
L1154[14:44:33] <S3> yoy: like this:
L1155[14:45:06] <yoy> BEL is bad
L1156[14:45:16] <S3> Is it?
L1157[14:45:17] <yoy> Then again, if your client responds to BEL
L1158[14:45:24] <S3> right
L1159[14:45:38] <S3> somebody must be beeping a lot right now
L1160[14:45:46] <yoy> heh
L1161[14:45:47] <Techokami> yeah, me
L1162[14:45:50] <S3> LOL
L1163[14:45:52] <Techokami> >:|
L1164[14:45:55] <Mimiru> ffs...
L1165[14:46:06] <CompanionCube> I can only just barely hear it
L1166[14:46:12] <S3>
L1167[14:46:14] <Techokami> I get the system beep
L1168[14:46:16] <Techokami> please stop
L1169[14:46:22] <S3> Alright alright...
L1170[14:46:23] <yoy> Why do people have clients that respond to bel
L1171[14:46:32] <CompanionCube> because it makes sense?
L1172[14:46:45] <yoy> CompanionCube: It doesn't make any sense
L1173[14:47:01] <S3> apparently Techokami might be using hexchat
L1174[14:47:08] <Techokami> I am using HexChat
L1175[14:47:15] * CompanionCube uses vanilla XChat
L1176[14:47:17] <yoy> My hexchat isn't going off for bel
L1177[14:47:18] <Techokami> 2.12.0
L1178[14:47:23] <S3> xchat is dangerous
L1179[14:47:32] <CompanionCube> why
L1180[14:48:01] <S3> because the staff has made so many arbitrary code execution exploits in the past that I've lost count
L1181[14:48:04] <yoy> I'm guessing there may be some remote code execution bugs or something
L1182[14:48:06] <yoy> Bingo
L1183[14:48:40] * CompanionCube opts to call S3's bluff.
L1184[14:48:50] <yoy> hehe
L1185[14:48:56] <CompanionCube> Is the latest XChat as provided by Arch vulnerable
L1186[14:49:05] <yoy> CompanionCube: do you really want to go this far?
L1187[14:49:19] <yoy> Because I can rip that shit apart and find something ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1188[14:49:22] <CompanionCube> just a link will be enough
L1189[14:50:01] <yoy> Oh no no no
L1190[14:50:07] <CompanionCube> If an RCE exists in one of the very few applications that I use constantly, I want to know about it ;3
L1191[14:50:09] <yoy> I'm going to go through the source code right now
L1192[14:50:23] <S3> yoy: if you can rip it apart you might as well add someting to it and then have him install it
L1193[14:50:23] <S3> :P
L1194[14:50:30] <Techokami> xchat's code or hexchat's code
L1195[14:50:37] <yoy> Because I remember seeing some iffy lines in hexchat, which is a fork of xchat
L1196[14:50:47] <Skye> I'm using HexChat 2.12.0. Is that bad.
L1197[14:50:59] * CompanionCube has patched XChat before for something related to SSL/TLS
L1198[14:51:18] <CompanionCube> (ok I found the patch on launchpad and added it to a local copy/build of the Arch package)
L1199[14:51:30] <CompanionCube> haven't done that recently though
L1200[14:52:09] <yoy> both xchat and hexchat have files with about ~2000 lines of pure crap
L1201[14:52:25] <S3> Instead of using ssl we should just use rot13
L1202[14:52:36] <yoy> For example, outbound.c is 4404 lines
L1203[14:53:16] <S3> LOL
L1204[14:53:21] <S3> the file is not found
L1205[14:53:30] <S3> I can't find it because it's 4, 404
L1206[14:53:41] <yoy> And I know that Hexchat has some bugs with state management when connected to iffy servers (like custom ones)
L1207[14:53:48] <S3> you know what's great?
L1208[14:53:58] <S3> somebody on campus couldn't connect to the internet from his dorm room
L1209[14:54:03] <S3> he called up and I looked into it for him
L1210[14:54:19] <S3> his room number was 404, but its the only room in that dorm that doesn't have a wall jack label
L1211[14:54:23] <S3> so I couldn't actually find him
L1212[14:54:42] <Skye> wow
L1213[14:54:54] <S3> there was 405 and 403...
L1214[14:54:59] <S3> but 404 was not found
L1215[14:55:11] <CompanionCube> intentional joke much
L1216[14:55:19] <S3> CompanionCube: this actually happened
L1217[14:55:24] <S3> about 2 years ago
L1218[14:55:26] <CompanionCube> S3, I know
L1219[14:55:29] <S3> :>
L1220[14:55:30] <CompanionCube> and the absence of the label
L1221[14:55:34] <CompanionCube> was an intentional joke
L1222[14:55:35] <Skye> how did he get internets? D:
L1223[14:55:35] <S3> yeah
L1224[14:55:43] <S3> he used wireless
L1225[14:55:49] <S3> but we provide hardwired so
L1226[14:56:05] <S3> hardwired is so much faster on campus
L1227[14:56:09] <S3> (not kidding)
L1228[14:56:26] <S3> wireless you get like.. 20 down, 30 up on average, up to about 50 down 50 up
L1229[14:56:28] <S3> mbit
L1230[14:56:31] <S3> on campus
L1231[14:56:45] <S3> but if you plug into the wall you get more like 800 - 900 down and 600 or so up
L1232[14:57:25] <S3> with 10,000 other people on campius
L1233[14:57:28] <S3> campus*
L1234[14:57:33] <S3> We have a lot of bandwidth..
L1235[14:58:18] <S3> (This is what happens when your university has more than one site and basically runs the state backbone for Internet)
L1236[15:03:24] <S3> Bah I did something stupid. My switch only has one side
L1237[15:06:01] <Forecaster> isn't 50 Mb or some such the max you'll get on wireless?
L1238[15:06:21] <Forecaster> Mb/s
L1239[15:08:53] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/8NsB6EA.jpg tahts gotta be shopped :f
L1240[15:08:57] <CompanionCube> Forecaster, depends
L1241[15:09:14] <CompanionCube> there are differing standards which have different maximum speeds
L1242[15:09:53] <Forecaster> I vaguely recall that in general it's around there
L1243[15:10:00] <Forecaster> at least for commercial tech
L1244[15:10:31] <CompanionCube> iirc 802.11n can go up to 150
L1245[15:11:10] <CompanionCube> 802.11g can go to 54 or so.
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L1248[15:19:49] <KittyKath> Forecaster: What CC said. ac should get 300+
L1249[15:20:04] * Lizzy hugs KittyKath
L1250[15:20:50] * KittyKath hugs Lizzy
L1251[15:20:55] <Lizzy> :3
L1252[15:21:00] <S3> Hmm
L1253[15:21:06] <S3> I think that sounds right
L1254[15:21:17] <S3> Ocranet supports a total speed of about 2634022912 KB/s
L1255[15:21:22] <S3> no wait hold on
L1256[15:21:30] <S3> ill redo maths
L1257[15:23:22] <S3> okay, about 150K per channel..
L1258[15:23:27] <S3> in MC
L1259[15:23:44] <S3> per path I mean
L1260[15:23:57] <S3> It's a massive number, whatever it is going to be
L1261[15:24:36] <S3> well above what Minecraft can perform :D
L1262[15:24:45] <CompanionCube> S3, that first number insane
L1263[15:24:51] <S3> yeah I messed up
L1264[15:24:51] <CompanionCube> in the order of terabits per second
L1265[15:25:15] <S3> so a relay does about 20 packets per second
L1266[15:25:35] <S3> giving an OCRM cap bandwidth of 150K/s about
L1267[15:25:43] <S3> KB*
L1268[15:26:27] <S3> I am stuck doing switch tables
L1269[15:28:01] <S3> sigh
L1270[15:28:05] <S3> I need to make a patch bay
L1271[15:28:12] <S3> in Lua too
L1272[15:28:48] <Skye> ?
L1273[15:29:28] <vifino> https://youtu.be/_A8rMWxImyc
L1274[15:29:28] <MichiBot> Ratbot vs Undyne | length: 6m 48s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 6 | by MrRatermat
L1275[15:29:35] <vifino> Watch it.
L1276[15:29:38] <vifino> Everyone should.
L1277[15:31:24] <S3> This is what I am making
L1278[15:31:25] <S3> http://wdm.ca/artifact_articles/images/65years/1973nb1138.jpg
L1279[15:31:27] <S3> (not really)
L1280[15:31:46] <S3> essentially an automatic version of it!
L1281[15:33:53] <vifino> S3: You should watch the video I pasted in here.
L1282[15:33:56] <vifino> You will like it.
L1283[15:43:22] <S3> Where the heck is the documentation on the OC relay?!
L1284[15:44:06] <Lizzy> combine the switch + access point documentation and you'll have most of it
L1285[15:44:07] <vifino> S3: https://youtu.be/_A8rMWxImyc pls
L1286[15:44:07] <MichiBot> Ratbot vs Undyne | length: 6m 48s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 18 | by MrRatermat
L1287[15:44:08] <Lizzy> probably
L1288[15:44:10] <Lizzy> idk
L1289[15:45:40] <S3> I could have sworn there was relay docs
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L1292[15:46:22] <Forecaster> there's a wiki page for the switch
L1293[15:46:32] <S3> vifino: lol
L1294[15:46:40] <S3> yeah but the switch isn't the same
L1295[15:46:47] <Elizabeth> Gamax how do i close windows with Wocchat?
L1296[15:46:54] <Forecaster> better than nothing :P
L1297[15:46:57] <Elizabeth> also i can't see what i'm typing... :/
L1298[15:48:36] <Elizabeth> hmm, I need a way to run arbitary commands on these MCUs odf mine
L1299[15:49:10] <gamax92> Elizabeth: parting them works iirc
L1300[15:49:44] <Elizabeth> so it does, thanks
L1301[15:49:53] <S3> does anyone know if switches forward broadcast messages?
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L1303[15:50:10] <S3> if they don't that makes things much easier
L1304[15:50:33] <Elizabeth> what do you mean, broadcast?
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L1306[15:50:52] <S3> There's a broadcast method, iirc
L1307[15:51:11] <S3> yep
L1308[15:51:15] <Elizabeth> ah, yes. the switches forward it on to any connected stuff
L1309[15:51:25] <S3> broadcast(port: number, ...): boolean
L1310[15:51:28] <S3> damn that sucks
L1311[15:51:39] <Elizabeth> switches/relays are basically just component network seperators
L1312[15:51:41] <S3> I wwould have thought broadcasts would be filtered to prevent massive spam
L1313[15:51:43] <Elizabeth> why?
L1314[15:52:07] <Elizabeth> but then why else would you have a broadcast method?
L1315[15:52:22] <S3> peer node discovery
L1316[15:52:32] <S3> without leaking outside of your subnet
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L1318[15:53:19] <Lizzy> errr
L1319[15:53:32] <Lizzy> switches are not routers
L1320[15:53:36] <yoy> vifino: thatwasamazing
L1321[15:53:58] <vifino> yoy: Exactly.
L1322[15:55:24] <S3> I know that
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L1324[15:55:26] <S3> it just would have made it dead easy
L1325[15:55:26] <S3> heh
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L1329[16:22:56] <Lizzy> #lua a = "print( "Beep") "; b = loadstring(a); b()
L1330[16:22:56] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'Beep')
L1331[16:23:04] <Lizzy> oh
L1332[16:23:12] <Lizzy> #lua a = "print( 'Beep') "; b = loadstring(a); b()
L1333[16:23:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'loadstring')
L1334[16:23:44] <Lizzy> #lua a = "print( 'Beep') "; b = string.load(a); b()
L1335[16:23:44] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (field 'load')
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L1337[16:26:21] <vifino> #lua f = load("print('potato')") return f
L1338[16:26:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7fc6cc095770
L1339[16:26:45] <vifino> #lau _VERSION
L1340[16:26:59] <vifino> #lua _VERSION
L1341[16:27:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Lua 5.3 Sandbox
L1342[16:27:09] <g> http://i.itsghost.me/posting.gif
L1343[16:27:20] <S3> #lua fork while fork
L1344[16:27:20] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: syntax error near 'while'
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L1346[16:29:39] <S3> #lua print "QUIT :I'm logging off the server"
L1347[16:29:39] <S3> :3
L1348[16:29:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > QUIT :I'm logging off the server | nil
L1349[16:29:48] <S3> damn
L1350[16:30:54] <Lizzy> #lua a = "someVariable + thisShouldCrash"; b = load(a)
L1351[16:30:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L1352[16:30:59] <Lizzy> #lua b()
L1353[16:30:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'b')
L1354[16:31:05] <Lizzy> hm
L1355[16:31:08] <Lizzy> #lua a = "someVariable + thisShouldCrash"; b = load(a); b()
L1356[16:31:08] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'b')
L1357[16:31:16] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1358[16:31:56] <Stary2001> #lua a = "c + d"; b,err = load(a); print(tostring(b)) print(tostring(err))
L1359[16:31:56] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil | [string "c + d"]:1: syntax error near '+' | nil
L1360[16:32:14] <Stary2001> #lua c=1; d=2; a = "c + d"; b,err = load(a); print(tostring(b)) print(tostring(err))
L1361[16:32:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil | [string "c + d"]:1: syntax error near '+' | nil
L1362[16:32:24] <Stary2001> #lua a = "function e() return c + d end"; b,err = load(a); print(tostring(b)) print(tostring(err))
L1363[16:32:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7fc6cc04a870 | nil | nil
L1364[16:32:39] <Stary2001> #lua a = "return c + d"; b,err = load(a); print(tostring(b)) print(tostring(err))
L1365[16:32:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > function: 0x7fc6cc000a80 | nil | nil
L1366[16:32:41] <Stary2001> there you go
L1367[16:32:42] <Stary2001> Lizzy:
L1368[16:32:46] <Lizzy> #lua a = "someVariable + thisShouldCrash"; b,err = load(a); print(b, err )
L1369[16:32:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil [string "someVariable + thisShouldCrash"]:1: syntax error near '+' | nil
L1370[16:32:50] <Lizzy> meh
L1371[16:32:55] <Stary2001> has to have a return
L1372[16:33:04] <Lizzy> ah
L1373[16:33:06] <Stary2001> think of it as function stuff() ...load.... end
L1374[16:34:45] <Lizzy> also i guess that load() is pcall'd (i.e. won't crash the entire script from a buggy string or something
L1375[16:34:52] <Stary2001> well duh
L1376[16:36:27] <Lizzy> #lua function b() return 1,4,"test" end; print( pcall(b) )
L1377[16:36:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > true 1 4 test | nil
L1378[16:37:04] <Lizzy> #lua function b() return 1,4,"test" end; stat,err = pcall(b); print( stat) print(err)
L1379[16:37:04] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > true | 1 | nil
L1380[16:38:05] <Lizzy> hmm
L1381[16:38:57] <Lizzy> #lua function b() return 1,4,"test" end; poop = table.pack( pcall(b))
L1382[16:38:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L1383[16:39:03] <Lizzy> #lua return poop
L1384[16:39:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7fc6cc16a420
L1385[16:39:22] <Lizzy> #lua return serialize(poop)
L1386[16:39:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (global 'serialize')
L1387[16:39:36] <Lizzy> #lua print(poop)
L1388[16:39:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > table: 0x7fc6cc16a420 | nil
L1389[16:40:01] <Lizzy> for k,v in pairs( poop ) print(k,v) end
L1390[16:40:06] <Lizzy> #lua for k,v in pairs( poop ) print(k,v) end
L1391[16:40:06] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: 'do' expected near 'print'
L1392[16:40:12] <Lizzy> #lua for k,v in pairs( poop ) do print(k,v) end
L1393[16:40:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1 true | 2 1 | 3 4 | 4 test | n 4 | nil
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L1404[17:08:32] <Shuudoushi> Inari: wtf does this mean? Zweckentfremdungsgesetz
L1405[17:09:01] <Inari> law against/concerning misuse? :P no clue
L1406[17:09:02] <Inari> context/ XD
L1407[17:09:22] <Shuudoushi> something about Germany banning air b&bs
L1408[17:09:40] <Shuudoushi> seems to be the name of the law
L1409[17:10:06] <Inari> "gesetz" is law, "zweck" well in the case of an object the purpose of something or such.. entfremdung is "alienatien/estrangement" in this meaning using it for something that isnt its purpose
L1410[17:10:06] <Inari> orso
L1411[17:10:23] <Shuudoushi> ah
L1412[17:11:01] <Shuudoushi> now, how the fuck does one that doesn't speak german say that?
L1413[17:12:35] <Inari> https://translate.google.de/?hl=en&tab=wT#auto/en/zweckentfremdungsgesetz you lcick "listen to" here? :D though it sounds a bit weird, as though the computer is truggling with trying to pronounce it haha
L1414[17:12:48] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1415[17:12:54] <Inari> you get different pronounciations though
L1416[17:12:56] <Inari> i think there are 2
L1417[17:13:03] <Inari> (in that google thing that is)
L1418[17:15:13] <S3> vifino: We got new images of ceres!
L1419[17:15:34] <vifino> coolio.
L1420[17:15:44] <Inari> http://www.xkcdb.com/10254&amp;upvote=10254?10254&upvote=10254#10254
L1421[17:15:47] <Inari> oh
L1422[17:15:56] <Inari> http://www.xkcdb.com/10254&amp;upvote=10254 there
L1423[17:20:41] <Lizzy> ~w modem
L1424[17:20:41] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem
L1425[17:25:49] <S3> pie is in the oven
L1426[17:25:57] <S3> I know this because I put it there
L1427[17:27:48] <Inari> lewd
L1428[17:27:54] <Inari> 9 months?
L1429[17:28:47] <Lizzy> ?
L1430[17:30:30] <Inari> pie in the oven
L1431[17:30:36] <Inari> you know
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L1433[17:31:39] <Lizzy> oh you
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L1436[17:36:52] <Lizzy> ~ cuistom os
L1437[17:36:59] <Lizzy> ~w cuistom os
L1438[17:36:59] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses
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L1447[18:09:01] <Kodos> Hokay
L1448[18:09:06] <Kodos> Now to figure out how I want to make Dave do the lotto
L1449[18:13:08] <Lizzy> \o/ got my MCUs able to run arbitary code over the network
L1450[18:13:20] <Kodos> Nice!
L1451[18:13:53] <Kodos> I thought about using signs as a way to set config settings, but signs aren't editable once placed, and it's a pain to keep breaking and replacing
L1452[18:16:01] <Lizzy> My MCUs use signs to show debug data
L1453[18:16:42] <Lizzy> and technicallty they have a config setting on them
L1454[18:18:47] <Lizzy> http://i.imgur.com/LijHmGy.png Top line is the MCU's ID, next 3 lines are debug info
L1455[18:19:05] <Lizzy> (mainly direction and aspect)
L1456[18:19:08] <Kodos> Erm
L1457[18:19:13] <Kodos> What's up with your controller boxes
L1458[18:19:20] <Lizzy> no fucking idea
L1459[18:19:33] <Lizzy> they do that a fair bit so i just roll with it now
L1460[18:19:43] <Kodos> Obligatory "Do you run optifine?"
L1461[18:19:47] <Lizzy> nope
L1462[18:19:59] <Lizzy> unless Mimiru sneakilly added it to her pack
L1463[18:20:00] <Kodos> Got a modlist? Looks like some mod is using a custom render that's fucking with it
L1464[18:20:24] <Lizzy> "PC-Logix" on the technic launcher
L1465[18:20:32] <Kodos> Right
L1466[18:20:38] <Kodos> https://youtu.be/kCbD8nsxcd8
L1467[18:20:39] <MichiBot> Jonathan Coulton - First of May | length: 4m 11s | Likes: 5184 Dislikes: 185 Views: 910124 | by Arth4k
L1468[18:22:10] <Kodos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1788
L1469[18:22:16] <Kodos> Lazy twat
L1470[18:22:27] <Mimiru> http://www.technicpack.net/modpack/pc-logix-17.422708
L1471[18:22:32] <Kodos> Yeah, got it
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L1475[18:26:44] <Lizzy> and now they're showing again
L1476[18:28:14] <Lizzy> meh
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L1479[18:39:53] * Lizzy falls asleep on vifino
L1480[18:39:54] <payonel> o/
L1481[18:41:48] <g> http://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/05/01/steam-now-accepts-bitcoin/
L1482[18:42:02] <payonel> g: ! i have bitcoins!
L1483[18:42:10] <payonel> i'll spend it on steam!
L1484[18:42:32] <g> \o/
L1485[18:43:22] <payonel> btw i got my computer to stop bluescreening
L1486[18:43:31] <payonel> it was getting really bad. so i went and bought new ram
L1487[18:43:38] <payonel> then it started to bsd REALLY bad
L1488[18:43:54] <payonel> so i thought, why would it be worse with better ram... (larger capacity)
L1489[18:44:16] <payonel> after much derping i realized - i'm an idiot
L1490[18:44:49] <payonel> about a year or so ago when i built this computer, i overclocked it. apparently, my RAM settings were wrong, and they were MORE wrong with the new ram
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L1493[19:05:42] <Skye> Payonel: oops?
L1494[19:05:55] <payonel> yeah, but glad i got it working
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L1518[20:40:28] <Antheus> :P
L1519[20:46:11] <Antheus> Any new features been added to OC recently?
L1520[20:46:19] <Antheus> like past month+
L1521[20:50:45] <Kodos> devfs
L1522[20:51:53] <Temia> Wait, devfs is stock now? It's not just something a more POSIXlike system can do with event handlers and unmanaged disks?
L1523[20:52:10] <Temia> I wonder if we'll get procfs and sysfs stock later on .3.
L1524[20:52:34] <Antheus> What is devfs?
L1525[20:52:44] <Kodos> %g devfs
L1526[20:52:45] <MichiBot> Kodos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_file - devfs - Wikipedia: "In Unix-like operating systems, a device file or special file is an interface for a
L1527[20:54:12] <Antheus> ooh fancy
L1528[20:56:48] * Kodos has no idea what it even means
L1529[20:57:11] * Antheus agrees
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L1537[21:51:54] <payonel> the foundation for more devfs points is now in place
L1538[21:51:59] <payonel> we're talking about what to expose
L1539[21:52:32] <payonel> but the api is ready, and a user can add a custom dev point easily: require("devfs").create("name", {write=..., read=...})
L1540[21:52:56] <payonel> OpenOS devfs only has /dev/null and /dev/random for now
L1541[21:53:20] <Antheus> I get it now
L1542[21:53:57] <payonel> /dev/null for example, is very simple: devfs.create("null", {write=function()end})
L1543[21:54:26] <payonel> no one needs to creat null, just saying that's how it is created
L1544[21:54:30] <payonel> +on boot
L1545[21:55:21] <payonel> well, technically not on boot -- it is delay loaded, but, essentially on boot
L1546[21:55:49] <gamax92> devfs.create("/\0", {})
L1547[21:56:07] * payonel divides gamax92 by zero
L1548[21:58:23] * Antheus divides payonel by i
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L1551[22:02:10] <gamax92> payonel: heh.
L1552[22:02:15] <gamax92> devfs.create("", {})
L1553[22:02:18] <gamax92> no name!
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L1556[22:17:23] <payonel> ha, that wouldn't fail
L1557[22:17:40] <payonel> but i don't know how you'd open a handle to it
L1558[22:18:00] <payonel> io.open("/dev/" .. "") :) wouldn't work'
L1559[22:20:28] <S3> you know CompanionCube
L1560[22:20:44] <S3> your dns system may save us from having to deal with port numbers, etc
L1561[22:24:44] <gamax92> payonel: I wonder how a null would work, since the unicode api truncates up to a null
L1562[22:35:25] <payonel> it's ksp time
L1563[22:35:32] <gamax92> you're insane!
L1564[22:35:36] <payonel> updating ksp, and all mods
L1565[22:35:41] <payonel> :)
L1566[22:36:56] <payonel> i wish my ksp mods were nexusmods
L1567[22:39:17] <S3> neat
L1568[22:39:24] <S3> it's fun when you just sit down and write 200 lines of code
L1569[22:39:27] <S3> and have no syntax errors
L1570[22:39:50] <S3> in one go
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L1575[22:52:09] <Antheus> I agree, payonel
L1576[22:52:28] <Antheus> I hate curse and kinda gave up after the spaceport drama
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L1578[22:53:49] <payonel> i dont care where modders choose to put their files - i just dont like spending a long time tracking down updates
L1579[22:53:57] <payonel> what's wrong with curse?
L1580[22:57:12] <Antheus> I've never liked it
L1581[22:57:21] <Antheus> But I would love nexus for KSP
L1582[23:00:03] <payonel> Antheus: i never go in forums :) so i know nothing about any drama
L1583[23:00:22] <payonel> i noticed some of the mods i use started uploading to "spaceport" but i didn't ask or look into it. what drama
L1584[23:00:24] <payonel> ?
L1585[23:01:09] <Antheus> The owner of spaceport took his website down, and since the source code was os, people made a bunch of new ones, and ckan had some issues
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