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L28[02:37:55] <g> Battleborn open beta
starts today and runs until the 18th \o/
L29[02:38:13] *
Forecaster was not born for battle
L30[02:38:21] <g> Can be grabbed for free
on battleborn's steam page, in the announcement above the items for
sale
L31[02:39:59] <Kodos> #lua return
math.sqrt(65.536)
L32[02:39:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
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L46[04:10:44] <Forecaster> the lizzy
awakens!
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L48[04:39:50] <g> battleborn is looking
pretty great
L49[04:40:01] <g> thoroughly enjoyed the
two beta story missions
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L53[05:10:49] <Forecaster> what is that
from?
L54[05:11:08] <Forecaster> that does look
fancy
L55[05:12:34] <Kodos> That's a
Reactor/Rotary/Electricraft Turbine Generator
L56[05:12:43] <Kodos> Slap it onto a
turbine, and it generates RF directly
L57[05:12:47] <Kodos> At absurd rates, no
less
L58[05:18:53] <Forecaster> oh, so reika
thing
L59[05:19:11] <Forecaster> that
reactorcraft?
L60[05:21:03] <Kodos> Not sure which one
it's from, I threw the 3 I was interested in into a new pack
L61[05:21:22] <Kodos> It's either Reactory
or ElectriCraft
L62[05:21:26] <Kodos> err
L63[05:21:27] <Kodos> yeh
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L79[06:47:26] <Inari> lol
L80[06:47:47] <Inari> this website doesnt
let you log into it if it recognizes your browser as chrome
~.~
L82[06:47:54] <Lizzy> lol
L83[06:47:55] <Forecaster> what
L84[06:48:09] <reinei> why one Inari?
L85[06:48:30] <Inari> dunno something like
"blah blah google, we dont want tos upport google. ever read
the user agreement? even if you're fine with that, our admins
arent"
L86[06:48:42] <Inari> reinei: some german
lolita community :P
L87[06:49:07] <reinei> lol, gimme pelase I
want to poke their code xD
L88[06:49:16] <Inari> probably done
serverside?
L89[06:49:21] <Inari> proabbly just
checking useragent
L92[06:49:28] <Lizzy> have they not heard
of user-agent spoofing addons?
L93[06:50:04] <reinei> I get an empty
browser string, nice
L94[06:50:45] <Forecaster> "Magic
hat?"
L95[06:50:49] <Inari> a forum shutting down
its registrations because of too much costs.. tahts new
L96[06:50:50] <Forecaster> wonder what that
is
L97[06:51:14] <Inari> Forecaster: ?
L98[06:51:31] <Forecaster>
"Tarnkappe"
L99[06:51:44] <Forecaster> google
translated it into "Magic Hat"
L100[06:51:48] <Inari> haha
L101[06:51:53] <Inari> Google translation
+1
L102[06:51:56] <reinei> I still love the
fact that the site apparently cannot detect my firefox aurora
L103[06:52:20] <Inari> i mean i guess
tarnkappe comes from some myth about a magic hat that makes you
invisible
L104[06:52:24] <Inari> so maybe thats
somewhat accurate
L105[06:52:56] <Inari> reinei: hehe
L106[06:53:07] <reinei> also, GERMAN
COMMENTS?!
L107[06:53:17] <reinei> who the hell
writes pages with GERMAN comments?!
L108[06:53:18] <Inari> oh well, i'll find
a better communits :s
L109[06:53:26] <Inari> german
weirdos
L110[06:53:39] <Inari> its the
reichscomments
L111[06:53:48] <reinei> hey now, I am
german as well
L112[06:53:51] <Inari> :p
L113[06:54:02] <reinei> but I write
strictly English code
L114[06:54:03] <Inari> i never use german
for var names or comments haha
L115[06:54:10] <reinei> ^ exactly
L116[06:54:18] <Inari> and im german
too
L117[06:54:19] <Inari> :P
L118[06:54:44] <Inari> german weirdos
meant
L119[06:54:47] <Inari> weirdos that are
german
L120[06:54:52] <Inari> not all germans are
weirdos
L121[06:54:53] <reinei> yep
L122[06:54:53] <Inari> :p
L123[06:55:13] <Inari> though im probably
ont he overall weirder side \o/
L124[06:55:18] <reinei> but that
reichscomments, after all the 'Reichsrecht' is still technically
active
L125[06:55:40] <reinei> but no court will
use it as it states: that courts as we know them do not exist
L126[06:55:58] <reinei> The grass is
weirder on this side!
L127[06:58:23] <Forecaster> the site works
fine after spoofing the user-agent of course :P
L128[06:59:12] <reinei> I wonder if it
would break with the chrome 'fedora user agent fix' plugin
L129[07:00:02] <Forecaster> huh
L130[07:00:10] <Forecaster> the geo2holo
program isn't interruptable
L131[07:00:13] <Forecaster> :O
L132[07:00:16] <Forecaster> :I
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L137[07:05:08] <Forecaster> ~oc holo
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L145[07:40:59] <Forecaster> the example
program "holo-flow" uses a lib called
"noise"
L146[07:41:04] <Forecaster> where can I
get that?
L147[07:41:28] <Forecaster> oh nevermind,
it's in the repo
L148[07:43:18] <Forecaster> huh, it
crashed for not yielding :P
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L151[08:06:12] <Mimiru> yay first day back
to work after all of my fun
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L153[08:07:15] <Izaya> is that a sarcastic
yay?
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L155[08:11:06] <Mimiru> Why yes, yes it
is!
L156[08:11:28] <Mimiru> I could have done
with a couple more days of rest/healing
L157[08:11:30] <Mimiru> but whatever
L158[08:11:43] <Mimiru> they can eat a
dick if they think I'm unloading the fucking truck though
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L165[08:51:27] <Saphire> wai..
L166[08:51:40] <Saphire> gps is
free?
L167[08:51:42] *
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L169[08:52:03] <Izaya> yes
L170[08:52:07] <Izaya> gps is free
L171[08:52:10] <Izaya> as it is
passive
L172[08:52:54] <Saphire> ...
L173[08:52:56] <Saphire> im idiot
L174[08:53:13] <Izaya> aren't we
all?
L175[08:53:14] <Lizzy> a pettable
idiot
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L177[08:55:41] <vifino> Heya Izaya, did I
tell you that I made an IRCd in Lua?
L178[08:55:54] <vifino> Maybe you're
intestested.
L179[08:55:55] <Saphire> o.o
L180[08:55:59] <vifino> Or
something.
L181[08:56:02] <Izaya> I saw it
L182[08:56:14] <Saphire> github?
L183[08:56:14] <Lizzy> vifino, sauce
L184[08:56:25] <Izaya> don't think you
told me besides me seeing you argue with bauen1 over timing
L185[08:56:27] <Saphire> gah, no gps sat
signals :c
L186[08:56:36] <Izaya> circd, right?
L188[08:56:42] <vifino> yeah
L189[08:56:48] <vifino> it has basically
nothing implemeneted.
L190[08:57:45] <vifino> I mean, it has
NICK, USER, PING/PONG, JOIN/PART/QUIT, but pretty much everything
else is non existant.
L191[08:57:59] <vifino> That includes mode
setting and topics.
L192[08:58:05] <Izaya>
technicalities
L193[08:58:05] <vifino> Who needs those
anyways, right?
L194[08:58:15] <Izaya> does it do
multithreading
L195[08:58:20] <vifino> Yes.
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L197[08:58:48] <KittyKath> True
multithreading or Lua subroutines?
L198[08:58:54] <vifino> True one.
L199[08:59:06] <vifino> Spamming lua
states everywhere!
L200[08:59:10] <vifino> \o/
L201[08:59:33] <Lizzy> vifino, you should
try making a server-link protocol so then you can create an IRC net
with it
L202[08:59:44] <KittyKath> TFW when you
realize you are too busy making your vim look pretty to get code
written.
L203[08:59:45] <Lizzy> (and so i can
extend it :P)
L204[08:59:53] <Lizzy> KittyKath,
lol
L205[09:00:05] <KittyKath> But at least my
haskell code is in mathematical notation now. Not that I could read
that or anything. xD
L206[09:00:06] <vifino> Lizzy: you can
extend it already...
L207[09:00:14] <vifino> but server link
thing, eh
L208[09:00:16] <vifino> maybe
L209[09:00:23] <Lizzy> vifino, by extend i
was meaning the server link
L210[09:00:35] <vifino> huh?
L211[09:00:40] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L212[09:01:14] <vifino> well, yeah, but it
doesnt make much sense to have it in a multi node setup
L213[09:01:23] <Lizzy> why not?
L214[09:01:32] <vifino> its doesnt have
modes, Lizzy.
L215[09:01:36] <vifino> or topic.
L216[09:01:49] <vifino> or anything but
basic channel join, part, quit and nick.
L217[09:01:55] <Lizzy> well when you get
that implimented, server linking can come after :P
L218[09:02:01] <KittyKath> "396"
→ ↱_(joinChannel conn) η ∅
L219[09:02:18] *
KittyKath has no idea what she is doing
L220[09:02:24] <vifino> haskell or
drugs
L222[09:02:29] <vifino> can't decide
which.
L223[09:02:42] <g> coding on LSD.
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L226[09:03:09] <Lizzy> home time
L227[09:03:32] <vifino> wooo
L228[09:03:41] <Izaya> you either need
more or
less drugs
L229[09:04:45] <vifino> I think my usb3
ethernet adapter died. ._.
L230[09:05:21] <vifino> lets hope the
other one doesn't die, otherwise i wont have internet for a
while
L231[09:05:22] <vifino> .-.
L232[09:06:21] <vifino> ( my router is a
mini pc running OPNsense with the inbuilt ethernet interface
connecting to my lan and the usb3 ethernet adapter on it connects
to my modem )
L233[09:06:44] <vifino> actually, maybe it
just overheated .-.
L234[09:06:50] <Izaya> my router is a
cisco switch with an ADSL2+ modem attached
L235[09:07:30] <vifino> ah, of
course
L236[09:07:36] <vifino> its just windows
being a fucking twat
L237[09:07:38] <vifino> .-.
L238[09:07:47] <Skye> Izaya. I have
mikrotik router. It's not that great, but it's cheep and
configurable
L239[09:08:05] <vifino> cheap for
what?
L240[09:08:17] <vifino> cheap for the
performance, cheap for your budget or cheap in terms of
quality?
L241[09:10:20] <Izaya> good, fast, cheap,
pick two
L242[09:10:28] <vifino> ^
L243[09:10:30] <Skye> Well
L244[09:10:34] <Skye> Cheap as in
price
L245[09:10:42] <vifino> ...
L246[09:10:48] <vifino> You're stupid,
Skye.
L247[09:10:52] <Skye> It's fast enough for
a home network
L248[09:12:00] <KittyKath> Izaya: I'm
always saying that Haskell is the Cocaine of Programming languages
so ... more drugs?
L249[09:12:03] <Skye> Configuring it is
pain, but it's got a lot of detail, so I can do things that I can't
do with a simple / home user oriented router
L250[09:12:22] <vifino> Skye,
please.
L251[09:12:29] <vifino> PLEASE. Read what
I said.
L252[09:12:36] <vifino> Answer the
question.
L253[09:12:38] <vifino> Thanks.
L254[09:13:11] <Skye> It's hard to when
I'm in a lesson
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L259[09:39:50] <Skye> Okay, waiting for
train
L260[09:40:22] <Izaya> hahaha
L261[09:40:23] <Izaya> ha
L262[09:40:25] <Izaya> ha
L263[09:40:28] <Izaya> you have to do
stuff today
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L265[09:40:37] <Izaya> :D
L266[09:41:02] <Skye> vifino, I mean cheap
in terms of budget. And it seems to be a mix of cheap, just fast
enough, and good en
L267[09:41:09] <Skye> Enough for the
job
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L269[09:43:03] <Forecaster> why's it on
there in the first place? :P
L270[09:43:08] <Skye> And... Well, my
opinion of the router is after I've used it for a bit.
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L272[09:43:22] <Izaya> interesting story
concept
L273[09:43:50] <Lizzy> Forecaster: cause
when vifino was here he had to pay a lot for international
data
L274[09:44:00] <Forecaster> ah
L275[09:44:14] <Lizzy> Izaya: that'd be
annoying
L276[09:44:26] <Izaya> I imagine so
L277[09:44:29] <Lizzy> Probably
L278[09:44:35] <Izaya> and I can't think
of any reason you would actually want to do it
L279[09:44:45] <Izaya> unless you had to
pay for external ones
L280[09:44:58]
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L282[09:46:43] <Lizzy> Phone if you could
stop being a pile of wank that'd be great
L283[09:47:26] <Forecaster> it probably
wont :P
L284[09:48:06] <Izaya> not until we have
Freedom
L285[09:51:50] <Lizzy> .gs
L286[09:51:50] <EnderBot2> GitHub Status:
good: Everything operating normally.. Last updated:
2016-04-06T23:18:10Z
L287[09:52:10] <Forecaster> github status
of what?
L288[09:52:12] <Forecaster> OC?
L289[09:52:19] <Lizzy> .....
L290[09:52:49] <Forecaster> that's a yes?
:P
L291[09:53:05] <Lizzy> That's a what the
fuck do you think
L292[09:53:17] <Forecaster> you never
know
L293[09:53:49] *
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L295[09:54:45]
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L296[09:54:59] <Forecaster> I try not to
assume things
L298[09:55:47] <MichiBot>
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L299[09:55:51] <Forecaster> amazing
L300[09:56:29] <Forecaster> (magic
cure-all device)
L301[09:59:02] <Forecaster> the glowing is
cool though
L302[10:00:02] <vifino> Forecaster: github
status is the status of github. .-.
L303[10:00:34] <Forecaster> github has a
"last updated" value?
L304[10:00:46] <vifino> yes
L305[10:03:38] <Forecaster> I thought it
was a repo :P
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L309[10:32:20] <LuMistry> sup sup sup sup
my homie g's?
L310[10:32:24] <LuMistry> I'm
backkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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L312[10:33:39] <Izaya> right then,
finished what I needed to do tonight
L314[10:33:42] <Izaya> seeyas in hell or
something
L315[10:33:46] <vifino>
Shhhhhheeeeeettttt.
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L317[10:33:50] <MajGenRelativity> bai
Izaya
L318[10:33:52] <vifino> See ya,
Izaya.
L319[10:34:00] <KittyKath> Izaya: In the
VIP area of hell ;)
L320[10:34:12] <Izaya> KittyKath: only the
best
L321[10:34:26] *
Lizzy prepares Izaya's seat
L322[10:34:39] <Izaya> man it took me
almost a week to finish this
L323[10:34:49] <KittyKath> Izaya: If you
come there before me, order me a good drink :P
L324[10:35:00] <vifino> Me too,
please.
L325[10:35:52] <Izaya> if we're drinking
I'll bring the monopoly set
L326[10:35:55] <Izaya> fitting game for
hell
L328[10:36:12] <LuMistry> I'm already
there
L329[10:36:17] <Kimiro> Drinking? Count me
in.
L330[10:36:23] <LuMistry> You don't need
to bring a Monopoly set
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L332[10:37:37] <vifino> Don't listen to
LuMistry, Izaya.
L333[10:38:10] *
Lizzy sighs
L334[10:38:11] <LuMistry> I'm a piece of
self-aware software
L335[10:38:19] <LuMistry> I have no clue
what hell is like :P
L336[10:39:05] <vifino> not as cold as
here
L337[10:39:51] *
LuMistry hands vifino a parka
L338[10:39:55] <LuMistry> here, become
warmer
L339[10:43:12] <vifino> nah, i got a Lizzy
as a blanket and pillow, me is fine
L340[10:43:20] <LuMistry> very well
L341[10:43:36] <Gavle> well, this is
interesting
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L343[10:43:51] <vifino> Anyhow, if anyoen
finds a 10Gbit SFP+ expansion module which fits a HP Procurve
3400cl, please poke me.
L344[10:44:01] <vifino> Cause I can't find
one. -.
L345[10:44:16] <Gavle> I realized that by
utilizing the file manipilimation program MGR wrote, I can create
self-modifying code
L346[10:44:23] <Gavle> This is quite
useful for my project
L347[10:46:18] <LuMistry> Gavle, care to
elaborate?
L348[10:46:30] <Gavle> LuMistry, I'll PM
you
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L350[10:54:06] *
Lizzy goes to search up where she should dispose of old, faulty
motherboards and CPUs
L351[10:58:31] <vifino> I am going to hang
my old mobo up on a wall as decoration.
L352[10:58:40] <vifino> And as a burn mark
of my bad luck.
L353[10:58:52] <Lizzy> I have 2
L354[10:59:00] <Lizzy> and the cpus to
match
L355[10:59:24] <g> Lizzy: usually a local
dump or recycling center will have a spot for electronics
L356[11:00:32] <Lizzy> hmm
L357[11:01:05] <Forecaster> the best thing
is a dedicated component recycling center if you have one
L358[11:01:16] <Forecaster> the next is
probably a regular recycling center
L359[11:03:33] <Lizzy> one of the boards
is electrically dead, there's no resistance between the positive
and negative pin connectors on the 8pin cpu power
L360[11:03:57] <Lizzy> the other powers on
but doesn't do any beeping or posting, just sitting there powering
the cpu fan
L361[11:04:13] <Gavle> superconducting
wires on a motherboard? real high-quality!
L362[11:04:44] <Lizzy> so for the 2nd one,
i wonder if i could maybe re-flash the bios or something to get it
to at least show some sort of error code
L363[11:05:54] <Gavle> Lizzy, this is
probably a stupid question but, are there jumpers to set or a
button to push to flash the BIOS?
L364[11:06:04] <Lizzy> no
L365[11:06:17] <Lizzy> there's a clear
cmos one but that did fuck all last time i tried
L367[11:09:14] <vifino> Lizzy: does the
mobo has an ez bios flashback button or similar?
L368[11:09:22] <vifino> or a usb port
maked like that?
L369[11:09:34] <Lizzy> not that i can
se
L370[11:09:39] <vifino> :/
L371[11:09:47] <vifino> do you know if the
cpus are dead or not?
L372[11:09:57] <Lizzy> nope
L373[11:10:00] <alekso56> Lizzy: i had a
mobo like that, there should be a third reset button that resets
the entire thing >_>
L374[11:10:09] <alekso56> or rather, third
jumper
L375[11:10:26] <alekso56> and the psu was
dead.
L376[11:10:27] <vifino> you cant reset
everything, alekso56 u skruuuuuub
L377[11:10:34] <alekso56> lol
L378[11:10:48] <Lizzy> only jumpers are
the clear cmos and 2 usb power ones
L379[11:11:26] <alekso56> but the psu is
confirmed working? .v.
L380[11:11:30] <Lizzy> yep
L381[11:12:16] <alekso56> what type of
mobo is this?
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L383[11:12:38] <Lizzy> atx
L384[11:12:41] <Lizzy> wait
L385[11:12:44] <Lizzy> matx
L386[11:12:46] <Lizzy> i think
L387[11:12:57] <alekso56> okayyy, version?
xd
L388[11:13:18] <Lizzy> it's an Asis
H61M-K
L389[11:18:18] <alekso56> Lizzy: so all
the jumpers are present and RTC is reset right? >_>
L390[11:18:43] <Lizzy> alekso56, i have no
idea if it's reset, it poweres on but other than that there is sod
all
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L393[11:20:51] <Lizzy> yes, i've done
that
L394[11:21:57] <alekso56> coolio, so you
took that psu from a working computer right? #justtomakesure
L395[11:22:04] <Lizzy> yes
L396[11:22:27] <alekso56> have you tested
the cpu in another place?
L397[11:22:38] <alekso56> is the cpu power
lead in >_>
L398[11:22:55] <Lizzy> alekso56, i have
nowhere else to test the cpu and yes, all the cables are in
properly
L399[11:23:10] <Lizzy> i've tested both an
i3 and i5
L400[11:23:12] <Lizzy> neither work
L401[11:23:49] <alekso56> is the mobo on a
flat surface or screwed in? >_<
L402[11:24:10] <Lizzy> flat surface
L403[11:24:31] <alekso56> is there any
lights on it, when you start it?
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L405[11:25:18] <Lizzy> it's 'standby'
light on the motherboard is on when the power is connected and the
power led comes on along with the cpu fan when i press the power
button
L406[11:25:38] <alekso56> and it keeps
running the fans after you start it?
L407[11:25:42] <Lizzy> yes
L408[11:26:30] <alekso56> hrm, it
technically should beep by then.
L409[11:28:34] <Lizzy> no beps
L410[11:28:38] <Lizzy> *beeps
L411[11:30:04] <alekso56> do you have
different ram around?
L412[11:30:14] <alekso56> maybe try
changing positions of sticks.
L413[11:30:21] <Lizzy> okay
L414[11:31:03] <alekso56> usually that's
never the issue >_>
L415[11:31:23] <alekso56> but i just had a
server die of bad ram at work >_>
L416[11:38:52] <Lizzy> nope, tried 4
different sticks in both slots and nothing
L417[11:40:56] <alekso56> you sure the
correct cable is in the cpu thingy? there's like 3 cables with the
same but different look on them usually.
L418[11:41:08] *
alekso56 gives up :oooo
L419[11:45:08] <Lizzy> you can't plug the
cpu power connector into anywhere else
L420[11:45:43] *
alekso56 is very inclined to blame the psu, even tho Lizzy says
it's working :v
L421[11:47:39] <vifino> I blame alekso56
because alekso56.
L422[11:47:50] <Lizzy> alekso56, it powers
my skylake rig just fine
L423[11:48:53] <alekso56> maybe your
skylake rig uses different voltage rails :v
L425[11:49:32] <alekso56> not all mobos
use the same voltage rails :v
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L427[11:50:09] <alekso56> Lizzy: you can
plug it in the opposite way, i've seen people do that.
L428[11:50:17] <alekso56> by MASHING it
in.
L429[11:50:22] <Lizzy> alekso56, ¬_¬
L430[11:50:32] <alekso56> yeah :V
L431[11:51:04] <alekso56> and some mobos
have the same connector for pcie and cpu.
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L437[12:19:08] *
payonel beps
L438[12:21:02] *
Forecaster bops
L440[12:26:08] <Forecaster>
Idontgetit
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L443[12:34:36] <bauen1> Forecaster, rd-88
(or so is the bottom one called) is the product of merging r2-d2's
head whit the death star
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L445[12:34:58] <Forecaster> ah
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L447[12:44:28] <Inari> payonel: lewd
L448[12:44:50] <payonel> i don't mean to
offend - sorry
L449[12:45:05] <alekso56> pffffffft
L450[12:45:13] *
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L452[12:57:51] <MajGenRelativity> %seen
TheBram_
L453[12:57:53] <MichiBot>
MajGenRelativity: TheBram_ has not been seen.
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L457[13:11:39] <Sangar> o/
L458[13:12:28] <Lizzy> \o
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L461[13:13:16] <vifino> \o
L462[13:13:27] <Forecaster> o/
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L466[13:13:55] <andreww> \o/
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L468[13:14:49] <payonel> so i finished
command substitution for openos shell last night. actually turned
out to be a very simple solution using popen
L469[13:14:56] <payonel> go to test
it
L470[13:15:01] <payonel> cannot cross [C]
boundary
L471[13:15:05] <payonel> :(
L472[13:15:09] <Forecaster> command
substitution?
L473[13:15:10] <payonel> had to go to bed,
will finish tonight
L474[13:15:28] <payonel> Forecaster: such
as with ``
L475[13:15:35] <Forecaster> ?
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L479[13:16:41] <Forecaster> oh, nested
commands
L480[13:19:05] <Forecaster> g: wow, good
luck with enforcing that xD
L481[13:19:11] <g> Yeah, I know xD
L482[13:19:56] <payonel> does that mean we
stop teaching encryption in CS as well?
L483[13:20:10] <g> Isn't that already a
thing in australia?
L484[13:20:34] <payonel> for my degree, i
actually had to implement asymetric key encryption
L485[13:21:09] <g> Huh, I see
L486[13:21:15] <g> That'd be way above my
head, I think
L487[13:24:00] <payonel> g: it's
definitely something that i had to study. some of the amazing
mathematical tricks behind how it works was not intuitive to
me
L488[13:24:21] <g> precisely the reason
it's over my head: math
L489[13:25:57] <KittyKath> payonel: Oh yes
stop teaching encryption. I couldn't get better Job security!
xD
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L491[13:26:12] <payonel> haha
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L495[13:35:53] <Saphire> ...there is some
Russian city "Sangar" :\
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L500[13:41:14] <CompanionCube> good job
apple
L501[13:43:10] <Forecaster> at least they
fixed it
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L503[13:51:18] <payonel> btw
L504[13:51:26] <payonel> i sit like 3m
from our CEO
L505[13:51:31] <payonel> it is so weird
....
L506[13:53:02] <xarses> is there a way to
move fluid from a storage tool (bucket, cell, drum, etc...) into
the bot's tank (assuming that you can't interact with the item by
placing it in the world)
L507[13:54:08] <payonel> xarses: could you
place the bucket is a autonomous activator, which puts the fluid in
a tank first?
L508[13:54:18] <payonel> like a world
tank? or .. extra cells receptical?
L509[13:54:25] <payonel> which goes into
an ae system?
L510[13:54:35] <payonel> im sure i could
make like 10 more overly complicated steps if you like...
L511[13:54:38] <xarses> also assuming you
don't have mods that do that
L512[13:54:51] <payonel> what mods do we
have then?
L513[13:54:59] <g> opencomputers
L514[13:55:07] <payonel> given :)
L515[13:55:09] <xarses> ic2,
gregtech
L516[13:55:37] <xarses> railcraft, and
extrautilities
L517[13:55:59] <xarses> but again, the
problem is around moving the fluid from the tool to the tank, not
working around the problem in the world
L518[13:56:20] <xarses> I'm wondering if I
should request the feature or I'm dumb and cant find that it
exists
L519[13:57:17] <payonel> xarses: so the
robot has the liquid in a bucket in its inventory, and you want to
move it to its internal fluid tank?
L520[13:57:26] <xarses> yes
L521[13:57:29] <payonel> ahhhh
L522[13:57:34] <payonel> yeah, that'd be
good to have
L523[13:57:55] <xarses> so you know, I
could milk a cow or something
L524[13:58:01] <payonel> right
L525[13:58:05] <payonel> yes i think i
understand
L526[13:58:06] <xarses> or use mods with
multi bucket items
L527[13:58:16] <payonel> i dont think oc
has this feature
L528[13:58:24] <xarses> erm mods that have
items that hold multiple buckets of fluids
L529[13:59:10] <xarses> ok noted
L530[13:59:27] <xarses> next problem, I
haven't tested it yet so maybe it's not
L531[14:01:07] <xarses> but, lets say I
have a robot, that is tunneling / bridge making, it approaches a
chasm that is deeper than it can hover. Is there a method that can
place a block forward and down, or is the bot allowed a grace over
the edge so that it can place the block down?
L532[14:01:18] <gamax92> Saphire: yes it's
very common for names of things/places to be named after
people
L533[14:01:52] <payonel> gamax92: has
anyone tried to make a ncurses driver for ocemu?
L534[14:01:57] <gamax92> yes
L535[14:02:09] <payonel> to what
avail?
L536[14:02:17] <gamax92> giving up
L537[14:02:28] <payonel> by you?
L538[14:02:43] <gamax92> yes
L539[14:02:53] <payonel> hmm. i'd like to.
words of warning?
L540[14:03:04] <gamax92> can't remember,
was a while ago
L541[14:07:56] <xarses> nothing?
L542[14:08:18] <payonel> xarses: oh sorry,
reading now
L543[14:08:45] <payonel> that is such an
interesting question
L544[14:08:54] <payonel> i dont know
:)!
L545[14:09:02] <payonel> forgive me
though, 99% of my oc knowledge is openos
L546[14:09:23] <payonel> 1% is that openos
can run on oc computers in-game
L547[14:09:25] <payonel> :)
L548[14:09:32] <payonel> ok kidding, it's
not that bad
L549[14:09:33] <payonel> but close
L550[14:10:16] <Sangar> xarses, iirc the
logic is it can always move if the current position is 'valid'. so
yes, i *think* it should be able to run one over the edge
L551[14:12:37] <payonel> Sangar: robot
feature to move internal bucket of fluid => internal tank. 1. is
there such a feature? 2. would implementing this be trivial enough
for something to "get my feet wet"?
L553[14:13:19] <Sangar> payonel, mmm, i
think the tank controller can do that? if not, sure, shouldn't be
terribly hard
L554[14:13:29] <gamax92> Sangar: can
lua5.1 and pluto be added as an arch?
L555[14:15:07] <Sangar> gamax92, ehhh,
pluto is so crash happy i'm not too keen on it being in oc itself
tbh >_> if you also make pluto stable then sure, but
otherwise... was one of the main reasons of going 5.2 and rewriting
pluto in the first place :P
L556[14:15:47] <gamax92> oh okay
L558[14:16:02] <gamax92> I thought you did
eris mainly because of 5.2 not being 5.1
L559[14:16:07] <xarses> Sangar: thanks,
I'll see if I can add this to the wiki
L560[14:16:21] <Sangar> xarses, good
idea
L561[14:16:34] <Sangar> gamax92, probably
in somewhat equal parts
L562[14:16:36] <payonel> xarses: see the
drain method
L563[14:16:48] <Sangar> i do remember
trying to get pluto running at the very early prototyping phase
tho
L564[14:17:13] <xarses> payonel: doesn't
account for the hand though
L565[14:17:26] <xarses> s/hand/tool
L566[14:17:27] <MichiBot> <xarses>
payonel: doesn't account for the tool though
L567[14:17:43] <Sangar> xarses, inventory
controller + swap
L568[14:17:54] <Sangar> or was it
.equip()?
L569[14:18:05] <xarses> eh?
L570[14:18:34] <Sangar> equip it was. you
can swap the equipped item into the inventory with an inv
controller
L571[14:19:00] <Sangar> (unless i'm
misunderstanding the problem :P)
L572[14:19:21] <xarses> that was about
removing fluid from a item into an internal tank w/o doing some
work around in the world
L573[14:19:41] <Sangar> yeah that's just
tank_controller.drain then
L574[14:19:59] <xarses> but from a filled
bucket?
L575[14:20:09] <Sangar> if it's in the
inventory, yes
L576[14:20:22] <Sangar> you can also fill
it again
L577[14:20:27] <Sangar> using the tank
controller that is
L578[14:20:46] <xarses> hmm
L579[14:20:49] *
xarses looks at that
L580[14:20:57] <payonel> xarses: drain
checks inventory :)
L581[14:21:05] <Sangar> that drain anyway
:P
L582[14:21:17] <Sangar> not to be confused
with the robot one that works on the world ;)
L583[14:21:39] <payonel> ah
L584[14:21:43] <xarses> erm, seem's odd
that it's not in the tank upgrade
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L586[14:22:03] <Sangar> well, it's kinda
analogous to the inv upgrade/controller combo
L588[14:22:22] <Sangar> where the inv
controller also allows accessing item inventories
L589[14:22:25] <payonel> has a picture
about scala, too
L590[14:23:17] <Sangar> “Junior programmer
learns `git rebase –interactive`“ hahahaha
L591[14:23:27] <payonel> :) haha
yeah
L592[14:25:47] <bauen1> 'Hieronymus Bosch
“A visual guide to the Scala language”' lmao
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L594[14:26:34] <Sangar> the scala one is
great, yeah
L595[14:26:35] <g> For those that haven't
noticed and are interested: Battleborn open beta free on steam
until the 18th
L596[14:32:13] <xarses> Sangar:
thanks
L597[14:42:26] <Vexatos> Sangar, what
about that TIS-3D issue ;_;
L598[14:42:37] <Sangar> remind me?
L599[14:42:41] <Vexatos> renderening
L600[14:42:43] <Sangar> ah
L601[14:42:44] <Sangar> well
L602[14:43:04] <Sangar> then (tm)
L603[14:44:34] <Forecaster> any news on
the microcontroller thing?
L604[14:44:35] <Forecaster> :P
L605[14:45:02] <Sangar> tried to reproduce
it, failed, no idea. if you have a world where it's 100%
reproducible for you, mind sending it to me?
L606[14:45:02] <Kodos> Or the upgrade
container block, since that'd be a good time for a matching
rackmountable :x
L607[14:45:12] <Kodos> Oh, you meant a bug
:x
L608[14:45:16] *
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L609[14:45:19] <Sangar> :P
L610[14:46:16] *
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L611[14:46:58] *
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bars
L612[14:47:15] <Sangar> we have cells now?
o.O
L613[14:47:32] <Kodos> Nobody knows
L614[14:47:34] <Kodos> The trouble I've
seen
L615[14:47:37] <Kodos> Nobody knows
L616[14:47:38] <Kodos> my sorrows
L618[14:48:46] <Kodos> Here's hoping ACB
answers my question :x
L619[14:48:48] <Sangar> any mods besides
oc needed?
L620[14:48:59] <Lizzy> a fair few
L621[14:49:03] <Forecaster> this is from
my letsplay instance
L622[14:49:06] <Lizzy> if that's the LP
world
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L624[14:49:13] <Forecaster> so there's a
ton of mods in it
L625[14:49:23] <Forecaster> but none that
are required beyond oc
L626[14:49:40] <Forecaster> unless it
affects the bug
L627[14:49:44] <Sangar> just to make sure
then: could you reproduce this with *just* oc? :P
L628[14:50:04] <Forecaster> I've yet to
try
L629[14:50:31] <Forecaster> I can throw
the world in my test instance to start
L630[14:50:41] <Forecaster> it has
significantly fewer mods in it
L631[14:52:20] <Sangar> that'd be
great
L632[14:56:20] <Forecaster> I have 88 mods
in my LP modpack currently
L633[14:56:27] <Forecaster> :P
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L638[15:08:30] <Sangar> noice
L639[15:10:09] <Inari> thats a prettybasic
styling
L641[15:11:31] <Forecaster> Inari: I
assembled that in about a day
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L645[15:14:33] <Sangar> eyo
L646[15:14:47] <Forecaster> also I like
basic
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L648[15:17:46] <KittyKath> Sangar: I might
have pushed my vim a tad far. :3
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L650[15:20:40] <Sangar> my
condolences
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L654[15:24:07] <Forecaster> right, done
with LP stuff for today
L655[15:24:12] <Forecaster> now to test
that microcontroller
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L663[15:33:33] <Forecaster> Sangar: yep,
still errors
L664[15:33:52] <Forecaster> I just started
the MC, made sure the program operated properly
L665[15:34:05] <Forecaster> then I flew
away until it was out of loading range
L666[15:34:19] <Forecaster> then returned,
and it had stopped with the "no such component"
error
L667[15:34:45] <Sangar> interesting. while
you're at it, if you quit then load up the world again, does it
happen then, too?
L668[15:35:09] <Forecaster> I'll try that,
and then disable all mods except OC and retry
L669[15:35:17] <Forecaster> (still have a
handfull of mods in this instance)
L670[15:35:18] <Sangar> thanks!
L671[15:36:06] <Forecaster> closing the
world and immidiately starting it did not trigger it
L672[15:36:21] <Sangar> hah. then i guess
that's why i couldn't reproduce it thus far :X
L673[15:37:31] <Sangar> hey, payonel,
super low prio, but i noticed cursor positioning via click is off
when there's wide chars in the input, just in case you didn't know
;) (i feel like this came up before and was dropped because of
performance, or was that something else?)
L674[15:38:20] <Sangar> hmm,
interestingly, it's off only on the left of the wide chars, on the
right it's fine, would've expected it the other way around
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L676[15:38:55] <payonel> i'll make an
issue in my fork to help me remember
L677[15:39:01] <payonel> but yes, we
talked about it
L678[15:39:13] <payonel> there is a cost
to make it work, maybe it is small, but not zero
L679[15:39:22] <Sangar> righty, as i said,
low prio
L680[15:39:23] <payonel> the reason it is
on the left is because it simplified the math :) haha
L681[15:39:44] <Sangar> just noticed it
while testing widths (updating the widths lookup table)
L682[15:39:44] <payonel> there is a lot of
wrapping (possibly) to compute
L683[15:39:49] <Sangar> ah :P
L684[15:39:52] <payonel> so i have a smart
method that is essentially go-to-end
L685[15:39:58] <payonel> so i measure from
the end, thus, off on left
L686[15:40:33] <Sangar> yeah, i seem to
recall you told me that before. expect me nagging again in a month
when i've forgotten about it again :P
L687[15:40:45] <payonel> haah, well i sure
hope i have it fixed before then
L688[15:41:11] <gamax92> Sangar: do you
hear the unstable noise
L689[15:41:40] <payonel> Sangar: the good
news is that the position is what the user sees
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L691[15:42:12] <Sangar> payonel, yeah,
workaround: don't click :3
L692[15:42:18] <payonel> what i mean is, i
compute visual cursor position FROM string position
L693[15:42:22] <Sangar> gamax92, what did
you say? it's so noisy here
L694[15:42:23] <payonel> so they can't get
out-of-sync
L695[15:42:39] <Sangar> right
L696[15:43:21] <gamax92> Sangar: wtrunc is
such an oddball function :P
L697[15:43:45] <Sangar> is it?
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L699[15:44:06] <gamax92> yes
L700[15:44:34] <Sangar> maybe it should
join #oc then
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L702[15:44:46] <gamax92> Sangar: heh
L703[15:45:54] <Forecaster> Sangar:
reproduced with only oc (and forge)
L704[15:46:20] <payonel> wtrunc makes for
some really cool computational savings in term
L705[15:46:25] <payonel> i'm quite pleased
to have learned about it
L706[15:46:37] <Sangar> Forecaster, okeh,
thanks
L707[15:46:51] <payonel> oc (and forge)
:)
L708[15:47:02] <payonel> oc 1.7, works
sans forge!
L709[15:50:49] <Michiyo> Lizzy, cause I'm
trapped at work, aka prison :P
L710[15:50:59] <Lizzy> ah
L711[15:51:47] <Sangar> goddammit i'm such
a derp
L712[15:51:59] <Forecaster> ?
L713[15:52:01] *
payonel gets a pillow and blankey
L714[15:52:03] <payonel> story time!
L715[15:52:08] <Sangar> wondering why the
mcu doesn't unload
L716[15:52:19] <Sangar> didn't move an
inch from spawn when setting it up
L717[15:52:20] <Sangar> -.-
L718[15:52:27] <Forecaster> xD
L719[15:55:39] <Michiyo> GG Sangar
L720[15:55:57] <Sangar> weee, repro in dev
env
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L722[15:56:05] <Sangar> doing it
right
L723[15:56:07] <Sangar> hard it is
L724[15:56:35] <Forecaster> :P
L725[15:59:25] <Sangar> .-.
L726[15:59:28] <gamax92> payonel: mmhm,
once you realize how it's oddities work though, then it's pretty
cool
L727[15:59:28] <Sangar> minecraft.
why
L728[16:00:02] <Forecaster> because
minecraft!
L729[16:00:07] <Forecaster> probably
L730[16:00:19] <gamax92> I would like to
order a cheez peza
L731[16:03:51] <Sangar> it trying to spawn
animals apparently causes chunk loads :X probably unrelated, but
ffs
L732[16:04:08] <Forecaster> gamerule
doMobSpawning false
L733[16:04:08] <Forecaster> :P
L734[16:04:27] <Sangar> good point
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L737[16:13:41] <Sangar> xarses, nice,
looking good. "foo" tho? :X
L738[16:14:06] <xarses> you wrote it not
me, I don't know if you wanted to be sourced
L739[16:14:26] <Sangar> that's fine, but
name 'foo' 'source' or something :P
L740[16:16:06] <gamax92> Sangar: can I
have a generic texturable entity block that I can then use some
assembler/compiler -> jvm to give the generic entity life?
L741[16:16:06] <Forecaster> Sangar: what
did you think of the modpack page? is the design awful? :P
L742[16:17:30] <Sangar> Forecaster, it...
does the job :P
L743[16:17:41] <Sangar> gamax92, wat
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L745[16:18:26] <gamax92> Sangar: so like,
I could spawn in this entity, and then attach a script of some sort
to make it do things
L746[16:18:41] <Forecaster> I don't think
it's any worse than the colors Inari picked though
L747[16:18:55] <Inari> mine are
pretty
L748[16:18:57] <Inari> shush
L749[16:19:02] <gamax92> Inari is
pretty
L750[16:19:09] <S3> so uh
L751[16:19:11] <gamax92> shush
L752[16:19:22] <Inari> gamax92: thats what
i just said
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L754[16:19:31] <S3> vifino:
L755[16:19:33] <gamax92> o.o
L756[16:19:36] <S3> My sound card is in
ifconfig
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L759[16:19:46] <gamax92> oh, you are not
r.i.p
L760[16:19:46] <Inari> i kepe making this
mistake
L761[16:19:52] *
Forecaster is not a fan of pink
L762[16:19:55] <gamax92> ... wat S3
L763[16:20:00] <vifino> S3: Nice.
L764[16:20:02] <S3> I am NOT kidding
L765[16:20:04] <Forecaster> or birght
websites
L766[16:20:08] <Forecaster> bright*
L767[16:20:08] <S3> I am doing TCP/IP on
my sound card
L768[16:20:13] <Sangar> gamax92, isn't
there an npc mod with scriptable npcs?
L769[16:20:19] <vifino> S3: Show me
how!
L770[16:20:22] <vifino> I wanna do the
same.
L771[16:20:23] <gamax92> Sangar: to
limited
L772[16:20:28] <S3> using AFSK
mnodulation
L773[16:20:29] <Sangar> eh
L774[16:20:30] <Forecaster> could probably
make the green stuff less bright though
L775[16:20:31] <xarses> Sandra: there
is
L776[16:20:36] <S3> vifino:
soundmodem
L777[16:20:43] <Sangar> gg, tabfail
L780[16:20:53] <gamax92> I can't make an
arcade machine out of npcs
L781[16:20:53] <S3> I'm doing 4800 baud
iirc
L782[16:21:08] <Sangar> Inari, do they
have the same sign for babymilk?
L783[16:21:10] <xarses> Sandra: gamax92
^^
L784[16:21:14] <Inari> haha
L785[16:21:16] <Inari> good question
L786[16:22:33] <gamax92> what is with this
half english half not
L787[16:23:22] <gamax92> S3: hehe
nice
L788[16:24:34] <S3> gamax92: I'm setting
up a server at my university in a basement to a roof antenna
L789[16:24:36] <vifino> S3: Does it do
alsa only?
L790[16:24:44] <S3> itl ONLY be assesible
via radio through this
L791[16:24:55] <S3> you just connect mic
and speaker to radio
L792[16:25:01] <S3> vifino: no it can do
more afaik
L793[16:25:08] <S3> apparently you can do
pulseaudio with it I dunno how
L794[16:25:11] <S3> and some other
stuff
L795[16:25:20] <S3> There is also direwolf
but I dunno how that works.
L796[16:25:33] <vifino> S3: does it have a
git or something where i can browse it easily?
L797[16:25:47] <vifino> if it has
pluggable sound stuff, i might add a jack audio backend and use it
myself.
L798[16:25:59] <S3> direwolf does.
soundmodem? I have no idea. soundmodem is oold, but it can do QPSK
and PSK and PAM and AFSK etc
L799[16:26:11] <S3> (all types of
modulation like AM and FM)
L800[16:26:23] <Sangar> ffs the mcu is
such a hack -.-
L801[16:26:43] <S3> but it just so turns
out that modern sound cards are so good that they're better than
hardware TNC modems :P
L802[16:26:46] <S3> usually
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L804[16:27:57] <vifino> S3: Mind buying me
some HAM gear? :P
L805[16:28:16] <S3> vifino: I wonder, what
kind of licensing exists in your country? you're brazil
right?
L806[16:28:22] <vifino> LOL
L807[16:28:26] <vifino> very far off,
germany
L808[16:28:31] <S3> oh yeah..
L809[16:28:32] <S3> then who--
L810[16:28:42] <S3> I always remember
Grueskoph as being in Brazil;
L811[16:28:51] <S3> er, germany*
L812[16:29:07] <S3> vifino: okay so then
you're in ITU land?
L813[16:29:14] <S3> (instead of FCC)
L814[16:29:14] <vifino> Probably? :P
L815[16:29:26] <Forecaster> Inari: is it
any better now? :P
L816[16:30:00] <S3> you can do like 300
baud on HF
L817[16:30:06] <S3> and do overseas
IRC
L818[16:30:11] <vifino> ;O
L819[16:30:12] <Inari> Forecaster: you
made it.. more bland
L820[16:30:16] <vifino> Would be so
cooool
L821[16:30:18] <Inari> thats
amazing!
L822[16:30:45] <S3> well I'm thinking of
running my BBS I wrote on our university's HF antennas
L823[16:31:01] <S3> so people around the
world can just connect to it
L824[16:31:08] <S3> leave guestbook
messages, etc
L825[16:31:10] <vifino> S3: get me the
gear, I'll get a license and hook the stuff up to my NAS/main home
server where my ircd runs :D
L826[16:31:14] <vifino> muahaha!
L827[16:31:20] <gamax92> S3: spam
protection
L828[16:31:27] <vifino> also my bbs
L829[16:31:41] <S3> gamax92: being on the
radio is spam protection. Dumb people on the Internet are not there
:D
L830[16:32:21] <gamax92> S3: noise
burster
L831[16:32:34] <Sangar> i don't understand
how mcus are working in the first place .-.
L832[16:32:46] <Sangar> who wrote this
shit
L833[16:33:03] <KittyKath> `git blame`
:P
L834[16:33:12] <Forecaster> a ghost
pirate
L835[16:33:13] *
vifino blames KittyKath
L836[16:33:18] <S3> we can't do encryption
though, so sending encrypted passwords is not legal
L837[16:33:20] <S3> however!
L838[16:33:34] <vifino> We can not do
encryption, S3?
L839[16:33:41] <S3> not in the US
L840[16:33:42] <vifino> At all?
L841[16:33:50] <vifino> That's...
shit.
L842[16:33:50] <KittyKath> vifino: Nope,
Amateur RF may not be obfuscated in any way
L843[16:33:52] <S3> encryption in the US
on radio on amateur bands is forbidden
L844[16:33:58] <Forecaster> Inari: okay...
whatever then
L845[16:33:59] <vifino> Pffff
L846[16:34:07] <Forecaster> back to how I
want it
L847[16:34:15] <S3> it's a very old law
vifino
L848[16:34:18] <KittyKath> S3: Of course,
if you're just outputting noise...
L849[16:34:20] <S3> and they've been
trying to change it
L850[16:34:39] <Inari> Forecaster: i like
my design
L851[16:34:39] <S3> but if you want a
secure account there may be a way
L852[16:34:40] <Inari> so im happy
L853[16:34:41] <vifino> KittyKath: same
rule in germany as in the us?
L854[16:34:41] <Inari> :3
L855[16:34:48] <KittyKath> vifino: Whole
of EU actually
L856[16:34:49] <S3> one way is to have a
one time password which you redeem from a web page
L857[16:34:50] <Forecaster> well I
don't
L858[16:34:52] <vifino> faaaak
L859[16:34:54] <S3> but what if you don't
have internet access
L860[16:34:55] <Forecaster> it's too
bright and too pink
L861[16:34:58] <Inari> so um
L862[16:34:59] <vifino> I like me some
basic encryption.
L863[16:35:03] <Sangar> ohhhhh, that's how
that worked
L864[16:35:05] <Inari> why cant i find any
info about anti-tracking slots
L865[16:35:15] <S3> there needs to be some
sort of authentication prevening somebody from positing as you
easily
L866[16:35:21] <KittyKath> S3: Do you know
the basics of DH?
L867[16:35:27] <S3> Diffie Hellman?
L868[16:35:28] <Sangar> i really want to
rewrite oc from scratch some day :X
L869[16:35:37] <KittyKath> Sangar: In
haskell? :3
L870[16:35:38] <Inari> Sangar: heh
L871[16:35:56] <KittyKath> S3: No, the
other DH.
L872[16:35:59] <S3> KittyKath: I do know
the Diffie Hellman algoritm, oh
L873[16:36:00] <Inari> KittyKath: in
luaforge surely
L874[16:36:07] <Forecaster> interface
design is hard
L875[16:36:14] <Forecaster> appeasing
everyone is impossible
L876[16:36:25] ***
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L877[16:36:28] <Inari> offer mutliple
themes
L878[16:36:29] <Inari> :D
L879[16:36:35] <KittyKath> S3: Anyway, you
can easily design a system where everything transmitted is
"public" but you authenticate nontheless
L881[16:36:49] <S3> what is that
called?
L882[16:36:52] <Sangar> in sane
L883[16:36:57] <vifino> S3: so, what would
I need to get that 300 baud link with you?
L884[16:37:22] <KittyKath> S3: I don't
know of a general there for that kind of stuff other than
"Number theory"
L885[16:37:40] <Forecaster> Inari: for a
page you'd only visit on average once a week at most? don't think
that's worth it
L886[16:38:13] <Forecaster> I'd rather
stick with my clear and functional design
L887[16:38:23] <Forecaster> and put time
into other things :P
L888[16:38:24] <Inari> Forecaster: have
them visit the page for each login
L889[16:38:25] <Inari> fixed
L890[16:38:34] <Forecaster> there is no
login...
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L892[16:38:43] <Inari> there is a login
into MC
L893[16:38:59] <Forecaster> which I have
nothing to do with...
L894[16:39:00] <KittyKath> S3: Also you
could just have a shared OTP generator or just sign with a known
public key <.<
L895[16:39:07] <Inari> because you dont
aim high enough
L896[16:39:17] <Sangar>
halefuckinglujah
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L898[16:39:27] <Sangar> it's fixed
\o/
L899[16:39:34] <Forecaster> I don't aim...
okay
L900[16:40:26] <Inari> Forecaster: see, at
the end of each play you encrypt the mods, and they need to visit
that page for them to decrypt again
L901[16:40:33] <Forecaster> well, since
I'm not getting any useful feedback I'm going to go to bed
L902[16:40:37] <Forecaster> :P
L903[16:40:41] <Inari> haha :P
L904[16:40:42] <Inari> night
L905[16:40:45] <Sangar> feedback?
L906[16:40:46] <Sangar> what's that?
:X
L907[16:40:51] <Sangar> gnight
L908[16:40:56] *
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L909[16:40:58] <Inari> its when your feed
comes back to where it came from
L910[16:40:59] <KittyKath> that
L911[16:41:00] <Inari> aka throwing
up
L912[16:41:08] <Sangar> but yeah, thanks
for helping tracking the mcu issue down!
L913[16:41:15] <Forecaster> Inari: well
see, that's more work for me and no gain :P
L914[16:41:21] <S3> KittyKath: yeah I
already mentioned the OPT
L915[16:41:23] <Inari> Forecaster: run
ads
L917[16:41:24] <Inari> more gain
L918[16:41:51] <Forecaster> Sangar: I'm
happy it's getting fixed so my fuel reservoir readout will work now
:D
L919[16:41:56] <Sangar> haha
L920[16:41:56] <S3> the problem with OTP
KittyKath is that unless I can find a way to do it on radio, then
it fails if there is no internet access.
L921[16:42:06] <Forecaster> without
needing to reboot 6 MCU's every server start
L922[16:42:19] <Forecaster> Inari: I don't
run ads, anywhere :P
L923[16:42:27] <Forecaster> I'm not going
to start now
L924[16:42:46] <Forecaster> I hate
ads
L925[16:42:47] <KittyKath> S3 You could
probably design a protocol that exchanges a OTP seed over radio -
given you get packets exchanged of course.
L926[16:42:51] <Inari> which goes back to
my point ofnot aiming high enough
L927[16:43:05] <KittyKath> It becomes
harder the more secure you want to be though.
L928[16:43:30] <Forecaster> Inari: I don't
need to aim any higher though, it's just more work for little gain
:P
L929[16:43:47] <S3> KittyKath: I may very
well just not even bother with any auth
L930[16:44:03] <S3> and just have you type
your callsign in when you connect, it logs, and yeah..
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L932[16:44:11] <KittyKath> S3, the easiest
I could think of is making a small key exchange/agreement and using
key expansion to get a proper secure seed from that.
L933[16:44:26] <S3> remember now
L934[16:44:29] <S3> NO encryption
L935[16:44:47] <KittyKath> Then again I do
think in terms of a packet switching network, not an analog
radio.
L936[16:44:53] <S3> and it has to be
accessible via a keyboard
L937[16:45:08] <KittyKath> S3: Throwing
numbers at you that only mean themselves surely is not defined as
encryption?
L938[16:45:33] <S3> Oh I know
L939[16:45:45] <KittyKath> You are not
obfuscating content here. The numbers and the signature you are
sending only means itself.
L940[16:45:49] <S3> I just gotta make it
easy as possible
L941[16:46:15] <S3> I don't think there's
any easy way to do it
L942[16:46:21] <OmegaCenti> abstract it
from the end user
L943[16:46:32] <S3> because who says that
you are the one getting the OTP that you say you are
L944[16:46:56] <S3> I think what I will
do
L945[16:46:58] <KittyKath> S3: Well, if
you want to be able to manually punch in numbers it will be hard.
If you can do some very basic automatisation you are golden
:P
L946[16:47:14] <KittyKath> Yeah, of
course.
L947[16:47:34] <KittyKath> But I don't
care about that. I only authenticate that a string of messages all
come from the same person.
L948[16:47:35] <S3> I could make it so
that you go to a webpage, authenticate, and it gives you like 20
passwords or something
L949[16:47:39] <S3> each one can only be
used once
L950[16:47:52] <S3> so you just print it
out take it with you and a pencil to cross em out XD
L951[16:48:19] <KittyKath> Also an
option
L952[16:48:42] <S3> the next challenge is
a multi user BBS
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L954[16:49:52] <S3> I wonder if I can do
something like OFDM
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L957[16:50:35] <S3> so like there would be
more than one listening "channel"
L958[16:50:55] <S3> that would require a
complicated radio
L959[16:51:32] <S3> to support two users
simeltaneously, we would effectively need two radios
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L961[16:51:57] <S3> fortunately, likely no
more than 1 or 2 people would be connected at a time
L962[16:52:14] <S3> also fortunately, more
than one person can be connected on the same channel at once with
AX.25
L963[16:52:21] <S3> HOWEVER there are
collisions
L964[16:53:46] <vifino> You still haven't
told me what exactly I need, S3 :P
L966[16:54:09] <S3> All you need is a
radio really
L967[16:54:36] <S3> and an antenna, and a
feed line from the radio to the antenna
L968[16:54:44] <S3> keep in mind this is
all half duplex..
L969[16:54:54] <S3> unless you use
multiple frequencies
L970[16:55:04] <S3> and multiple
antennas
L971[16:55:29] <vifino> What radio? Any
extra gear? Is there some specific radio that allows me to control
almost everything via usb or something so I can automate this
stuff?
L972[16:55:34] <vifino> All kinda of
quiestions.
L973[16:56:02] <S3> vthere are tons of
radios that do USB. Be careful about that word though. USB actually
stands for something common in HAM radio
L974[16:56:16] <S3> vifino: you can use an
SDR that can transmit
L975[16:56:28] <S3> just has to have the
bands / frequencies you need
L976[16:56:31] <vifino> I don't have a
SDR, so...
L977[16:56:44] <S3> the problem with an
SDR is that an SDR is usually very low power
L978[16:56:50] <S3> so you will likely
need an amplifier for it
L979[16:57:18] <KittyKath> And you need a
license before you can just go broadcast stuff you like.
L980[16:57:23] <S3> most sdr's are
supported in Linix
L981[16:57:26] <S3> linux*
L983[16:58:22] <vifino> KittyKath: Yeah,
duh.
L984[16:58:28] <vifino> Need to get a
license somehow.
L985[16:58:58] <KittyKath> Join a local
amateur radio club would be a start :P
L986[16:59:06] <S3> apparently germany has
an amateur radio act
L987[16:59:23] <S3> vifino: here in us
it's like 15 bucks for the exam and the exam is a piece of
cake
L988[16:59:43] <S3> I have a general
license though, which is a step up above the first, and one below
the highest here
L989[16:59:53] <KittyKath> S3: Don't
forget this is germany. Here you have a form to request the
ordering of more forms.
L991[17:00:39] <vifino> KittyKath: pfff,
clubs, i was setting up my own CB radio station in spain at the age
of 8!
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L993[17:00:53] <KittyKath> vifino: Amateur
Radio licenses are not *hard* to get in itself - but they cost
money and you have to take a test which you can take in like two
location once a year.
L994[17:00:58] <Hyst`> If I replace openos
1.5.22's term.lua with a current term.lua from termos1.6, would
that give the functionalities that are new in it?
L995[17:00:58] <KittyKath> Not quite, but
you get the gist.
L996[17:01:15] <vifino> KittyKath: Yeah.
:/
L997[17:01:17] <gamax92> Hyst`: why not
just install openos 1.6
L998[17:01:25] <KittyKath> vifino: Also
that attitude will get you nowhere.
L999[17:01:26] <Hyst`> can that be done
without a server update?
L1000[17:01:36] <S3> vifino: you don't
have to be a member, but it's usually the clubs that test you
L1001[17:01:50] <vifino> KittyKath: You
do realize that that was the entire point? q_q
L1002[17:01:52] <S3> they often do
regular public tests
L1003[17:02:10] <S3> kitty is purring on
desk
L1004[17:02:15] <vifino> Eh, I don't like
people.
L1005[17:02:17] <Hyst`> Like
L1006[17:03:14] <gamax92> vifino:
:c
L1007[17:03:55] <Hyst`> i think im just
doing EVERYTHING wrong. I'm trying to figure out how to make a
computer do something if it's given the C key, but... I think I'm
bad. :P
L1008[17:04:26] <S3> wait for a
charevent!
L1009[17:04:27] <vifino> gamax92: In real
life. You're virtual, so I like you just fine!
L1010[17:04:32] *
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L1011[17:04:54] <Hyst`>
os.pullEvent("char")? would that work?
L1012[17:04:55] <vifino> Plus, there are
exclusions from the rule, like KittyKath and Lizzy.
L1013[17:05:01] <gamax92> Hyst`: that's
CC
L1014[17:05:04] <Hyst`> oh :(
L1015[17:05:06] <gamax92> OC is
event.pull
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L1017[17:05:09] <Hyst`> okay.
L1018[17:05:18] <Hyst`>
event.pull("char")?
L1019[17:05:25] <gamax92> maybe ... maybe
not
L1020[17:05:27] <gamax92> ~w event
L1022[17:06:16] <gamax92> Hyst`: it seems
it'd be event.pull(nil, "char")
L1023[17:06:22] <Hyst`> thank you
L1024[17:06:44] <S3> Hyst`: that's
basically the dispatch table method
L1025[17:06:48] <S3> which works very
well
L1026[17:06:51] <S3> that example*
L1027[17:06:56] <gamax92> that
documentation is horribly written.
L1029[17:07:57] <S3> the whole wiki is
horribly written :P
L1030[17:07:58] <Hyst`> so it isnt just
that my comprehension sucks? :P
L1031[17:08:40] <gamax92> Hyst`: no nvm,
the nil can be omitted then (looking at event.lua)
L1032[17:10:16] <S3> I still wish I could
think of a good way to do non blocking timers in OC
L1033[17:10:47] <S3> it'd be cool if I
could tell an event to fire in x milisecondsd
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L1035[17:12:34] <Hyst`> uh
L1036[17:12:38] <CompanionCube> iirc
Izaya has a thing that generates information from the in-game
manuals
L1037[17:12:44] <CompanionCube> don't
know if better than wiki
L1038[17:13:32] <S3> for now to do non
blocking events I can just connect a project red timer :P
L1039[17:13:46] <S3> and make it clock
into a redstone input :(
L1040[17:15:23] <Hyst`> the only thing i
think im getting is keydown or keyup
L1041[17:18:38] <gamax92> ... right sorry
:P
L1043[17:19:00] <gamax92> Hyst`: in CC
the data from key and char are two seperate events, in OC they're
in the same event
L1044[17:19:00] *
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L1045[17:19:15] <gamax92> so look at
keydown
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L1050[17:28:31] <xarses> gah, I forget
now, and cant find it... I thought there was a robot api to put an
item in the tool slot
L1051[17:30:45] <Sangar> hurrah for
fixery
L1052[17:30:55] <Sangar> i'm off, gnight
o/
L1053[17:32:53] *
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L1054[17:32:58] <KittyKath> Good night
<3
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L1056[17:36:17] <Hyst`> Sorry to bother,
but is there any native way to autorun something from a floppy when
the computer is booted?
L1057[17:36:33] <g> Yep, why not take a
look at the contents of an openos floppy?
L1058[17:36:51] <Hyst`> oo. right
:P
L1059[17:40:00] <KittyKath> Guys,
Guuuuuuyyys. Do you remember the time where phone companies all had
their different charger plugs and made people pay stellar sums for
a compatible charger? Well guess what is coming to USB-C ^.^
L1060[17:40:20] <S3> init.lua :)
L1061[17:40:50] <S3> gamax92: O M G
L1062[17:41:14] <S3> you may have just
solved my SOPT 1.0 partitioning scheme
L1063[17:41:18] <S3> issue
L1064[17:42:23] <S3> instead of reserving
a partition type for a boot sector
L1065[17:42:34] <S3> what if I just made
a magic word, name the partition init.lua :P
L1066[17:42:45] <S3> lololol
L1067[17:45:07] <g> KittyKath: well,
mini-usb tried to be the standard but phone manufacturers still
kinda ignored it in some devices
L1068[17:45:58] <g> the note 2 has one of
those, but the note 3 has a proprietary cable
L1069[17:46:14] <KittyKath> g: Actually
in the EU mini-usb was made law at some point and some (don't ask
specifics) companies got excempt *cough* apple *cough*
L1070[17:46:29] <g> oh, it was?
L1071[17:46:39] <g> I wonder why samsung,
apple and a few others don't use it then
L1073[17:46:59] <g> so are you saying
that type-c will unify?
L1074[17:48:16] <KittyKath> Might have
gotten extroduced again. Before smartphones there was a time where
there was one plug to charge them all, one plug to fit in them and
maybe needing a turn or two.
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L1076[17:49:13] <S3> greaser|q: I think
I'll do some MIPS stuff tonight with that arch
L1077[17:49:28] <g> Yeah, but those
cables didn't need to do data transfer
L1078[17:49:28] <S3> downloading newlib
right now just so I don't have to spend time writing crap
L1079[17:49:32] <greaser|q> S3: lemme
know if you need a hand with anything
L1080[17:49:40] <S3> newlib will work
with it, I hope? :P
L1081[17:49:44] <S3> or most of it
L1082[17:49:45] <greaser|q> newlib is
what i use
L1084[17:49:54] <greaser|q> and yeah
you'll need a libc to build your cross compiler anyway
L1085[17:49:56] <S3> why the hell is it
called newlib-cygwin? I never noticed that before
L1086[17:50:03] <KittyKath> g: Yeah but
USB-C signing will mean that the phone can reject a specific
charger and there's jack shit you can do about it.
L1087[17:50:11] <greaser|q> weird
L1089[17:50:34] <S3> greaser|q: I have my
own libc, but it's glibc. Should I compile the toolchainusing
newlib?
L1090[17:50:39] <S3> if I plan to use
newlib
L1091[17:50:39] <{}> USB-C is dangerous
right now
L1093[17:50:43] <greaser|q> yes you
should
L1094[17:50:49] <S3> I mean it only makes
sense
L1095[17:51:01] <g> KittyKath: ..well
that sucks
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L1097[17:51:08] <g> can guarantee apple
would be doing that
L1098[17:51:20] <greaser|q> newlib's
still not amazingly light but static linking does produce notably
smaller binaries than glibc does, even if musl produces even
smaller ones
L1099[17:51:28] <greaser|q> but, well,
musl didn't want to work for me
L1100[17:51:35] <KittyKath> g: The
solution is easy: Buy a phone with removeable battery that uses USB
2 or 3 :P
L1101[17:51:36] <greaser|q> in the ocmips
repo, check src/main/resources/labour.c
L1102[17:51:41] <greaser|q> that has
implementations for shit
L1103[17:52:07] <g> that will probably
mean really old phones at some point though
L1105[17:52:20] <KittyKath> g: Yep
L1106[17:52:40] <g> hmm, magik6k's dfpwm
converter is timing out
L1107[17:52:53] <S3> greaser|q: you said
this thing runs at an average at 40Mhz or so though, so handling
redstone signals by the tick* is probably very reliable huh?
L1108[17:53:20] <greaser|q> yeah, there
is a timer interrupt but it may need tweaking
L1109[17:53:34] <S3> because maybe I can
do 8N1 10baud with it
L1111[17:53:39] <S3> no parity
L1113[17:54:09] <S3> aha, so there are
timing thingamagigies
L1114[17:54:22] <S3> is there a way to
prescale them without software?
L1115[17:55:53] <S3> holy crap binutils
is 40 MB
L1116[17:56:18] <S3> It's half the size
of the Linux kernel 5 years ago
L1117[17:57:08] <g> hmm, I wonder if one
could use vlc to render videos to a surface in MC
L1118[17:57:39] <g> there are browser
plugins that use it, so I guess it should be..
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L1121[18:00:41] <vifino> S3: also, what
frequency do you plan on sending this stuff?
L1122[18:00:46] <vifino> in mhz
please
L1123[18:01:58] <S3> vifino: on 2 meters,
145.01 to 145.09, but I dunno how I will do it on HF yet
L1124[18:02:06] <S3> HF would be your own
option from germany
L1125[18:02:15] <S3> only*
L1126[18:03:01] <S3> vifino: there may be
a sattelite 2 meter repeater though between us
L1127[18:03:06] <S3> in which case you
can talk to the sattelite
L1128[18:03:08] <vifino> S3: so lowest i
could go with a potentioal sdr with its min 70mhz would be
fine?
L1129[18:03:16] <S3> I would check the
amsat listings
L1131[18:03:42] <S3> that's the 4 meter
band..
L1132[18:03:50] <vifino> I thought about
getting a specific USRP for a while, this would be a good
point.
L1133[18:03:55] <S3> that's kinda
vhfy
L1134[18:04:21] <S3> there are some HF
SDRs
L1135[18:04:40] <S3> VHF and UHF are fun
but yeah, they don't travel very far
L1136[18:04:53] <S3> I on like 5 watts I
can get like 50 - 100 miles easily enough
L1137[18:05:00] <vifino> Not really
interested in them though, the one I am intestested in has a range
of 70mhz to 6ghz continuous.
L1138[18:05:01] <S3> my radio can do like
50 watts
L1139[18:05:14] <S3> that one sounds
kinda cool
L1140[18:05:25] <S3> I dunno if you'd be
able to make it accross seas on the 4 meter band though even
L1141[18:05:28] <S3> I dunno
L1142[18:05:45] <S3> and 4 meters isn't
available in US
L1144[18:06:04] <S3> we petitioned for
it, FCC turned it down
L1145[18:06:10] <vifino> I could probably
get a shifting thingie (forgot the name :/)
L1146[18:06:42] <S3> frequency
shifter?
L1148[18:06:54] <vifino> yeah, that
L1149[18:07:03] <S3> some places let you
cross band repeat
L1150[18:07:05] <vifino> something that
shifts low frequencies to higher ones
L1151[18:07:16] <S3> that's when you
listen on one band
L1152[18:07:19] <S3> and transmit on
another
L1154[18:07:31] <S3> thats when a
repeater listens on both bands
L1155[18:07:36] <S3> and repeats on the
vice versa one
L1156[18:07:38] <S3> sorry heh
L1157[18:07:45] <S3> I was thinking of
full duplex operationXD
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L1161[18:17:18] <vifino> S3: oh, the
thing was called a transverter
L1162[18:17:25] <vifino> at least this
one guy on youtube called it that
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L1165[18:19:04] <S3> sounds
familiar
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L1167[18:21:47] <S3> greaser|q: why you
use -j 8?!
L1168[18:21:53] <S3> why you no -j
9
L1169[18:21:56] <S3> you has 7 core
cpu?
L1170[18:22:01] <greaser|q> S3: i have 4
virtual cores
L1171[18:22:05] <S3> yeah
L1172[18:22:10] <greaser|q> 2 phys, 2
threads each
L1175[18:22:32] <S3> I have 8 threads
total, but I use -j 9
L1176[18:22:35] <vifino> depends on the
scheduler.
L1177[18:22:40] <S3> because, pipelining
algorithm
L1178[18:22:50] <vifino> on linux-pf you
don't add one.
L1179[18:24:20] <S3> starting gcc compile
NOW!
L1180[18:24:35] <greaser|q> on a raspi i
do -j 2 because one core * one thread
L1181[18:24:44] <S3> see how long it
takes me
L1182[18:24:51] <S3> I got an i7
4770K
L1183[18:24:53] <greaser|q> and, well,
when one's doing I/O, the other can do compiling
L1184[18:24:58] <S3> @ 3.5
L1185[18:25:14] <S3> I could overclock it
to 4 easily..
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L1187[18:28:06] <vifino> Anyhow, if you
know a way to make this all work out with my probably future sdr,
I'd gladly make it reality if it's not too expensive, S3.
L1188[18:28:13] <S3> BUILD FAILED!
L1189[18:28:15] <S3> greaser|q: :*
L1190[18:28:21] <S3> ar: libbackend.a: No
space left on device
L1191[18:28:26] <S3> lololol
L1193[18:28:37] <S3> /dev/sda8 38G 38G
99M 100% /
L1194[18:29:02] <S3> oh it's openwrt's
source code..
L1195[18:29:08] <greaser|q> wat
L1196[18:29:15] <S3> yeah it's like 13 GB
compiled
L1197[18:29:26] <S3> DONT ASK WHY it
generates an image < 4MB
L1198[18:29:46] <S3> openwrt breaks
physics
L1199[18:29:53] <{}> How the hell
L1200[18:29:58] <S3> I know..
L1201[18:30:10] <S3> I had to constantly
save space up while it was building for it to fit
L1202[18:30:15] <S3> just for my 3MB
image I wanted
L1203[18:30:31] <CompanionCube> Black
Compression Magic?
L1204[18:30:39] <{}> LZ69
L1206[18:30:49] <CompanionCube> or
alternatively just shitloads of debugging symbols
L1207[18:30:54] <CompanionCube> and other
things
L1208[18:30:55] <S3> the other day my
friend got order number 69 at five guys
L1209[18:31:27] <S3> I've been rm -rfing
my openwrt dir for a while now..
L1210[18:31:35] <S3> so far I have freed
4.6GB
L1211[18:32:01] <{}> Why the hell are
there two different spellings for "grey" and why the hell
do I use the British version
L1212[18:33:28] <S3> cause.
L1213[18:33:41] <S3> Becaus eyour name is
curly that's why
L1214[18:34:07] <{}> Both me and my
sister spell it grey even tho we live in 'MERICA
L1215[18:34:20] <S3> so far 12GB
free
L1216[18:34:24] <S3> still rm
-rfing
L1219[18:35:16] <S3> meanwhile gcc is
building
L1220[18:35:25] <S3> and I am listening
to morse code
L1221[18:35:29] <xarses> guh, why will my
robot access the non local functions in a file, but when the same
file refers to a local one it raises call Nil
L1222[18:35:53] <S3> greaser|q: someday
llvm will do mips-i
L1223[18:35:55] <S3> and we will be
saved
L1224[18:36:05] <S3> oh look gcc
completed
L1225[18:36:11] <S3> I compiled all-gcc
in under 4 minutes
L1226[18:36:29] <S3> I did a make clean
to check that
L1227[18:37:31] <S3> here we go
newlib
L1228[18:38:02] <S3> greaser|q: so we
will build an entire OS using nothing but macros.
L1230[18:38:09] <S3> C macros
L1231[18:38:41] <S3> I hope we're good
with macros and side effect-less macros at that
L1232[18:38:43] <S3> :D:D
L1233[18:39:29] <S3> gcc pass 2 here we
go
L1234[18:40:38] <S3> damn it error in gcc
pass 2
L1235[18:40:57] <S3> nbo error but it
errored anyways..
L1237[18:42:00] <greaser|q> dammit use el
not eb
L1238[18:42:10] <S3> hmm?
L1239[18:42:15] <greaser|q> wait
nvm
L1240[18:42:19] <greaser|q> run make w/o
the -j
L1241[18:42:23] <greaser|q> so just uhh:
make
L1242[18:42:25] <S3> oh, duh
L1243[18:42:27] <greaser|q> it'll tell
you where it fucked up
L1244[18:42:28] <S3> no wonder it is
mangled
L1245[18:42:47] <S3> I dunno why I didn't
remember that
L1246[18:43:02] <S3> configure: error: No
support for this host/target combination.
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L1249[18:45:55] <S3> too big..
L1251[18:45:58] <S3> greaser|q: ^
L1252[18:46:18] <greaser|q> ah yeah i
normally patch that shit
L1253[18:46:21] <greaser|q> lemme find
it
L1254[18:46:25] <S3> oh I need a
patch?
L1255[18:46:38] <S3> I didn't see it in
the doc
L1257[18:47:47] <greaser|q> i didn't
realise it was necessary
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L1259[18:48:24] <vifino> Before I go to
bed, S3, mind writing down all the things I need to have this com
thing with you? Like bands, software, protocols, whatnot..
L1260[18:48:33] <greaser|q> as_fn_error
"No support for this host/target combination."
"$LINENO" 5
L1261[18:48:45] <greaser|q> ^ just
comment that line out in libstdc++-v3/configure
L1262[18:48:46] <S3> vifino: oh, yeah. I
dunno what the german regulations are on band allocation
though
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L1264[18:49:06] <S3> that you will
probably have to find. All I get on google is "us citizen
traveling to germany rules for ham radio operation"
L1265[18:49:14] <S3> which is not what
you want lol
L1266[18:49:42] <greaser|q> although i'm
not sure what the ACTUAL patch is
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L1268[18:50:13] <vifino> S3: just write
it all down, even questions, ill check it when i got time
L1269[18:50:19] <vifino> I really wanna
do this with you :)
L1270[18:50:24] <vifino> Sounds like a
lot of fun.
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L1272[18:53:05] <S3> greaser|q: fixed
:D
L1273[18:53:09] <greaser|q> jey
\:D/
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L1275[18:55:11] <S3> Are there any
necessary compiler flags I should know about when compiling stuff
for mips? I know for my AVR chips and for ARM I use some pretty
weird ones for ARM/AVR friendliness
L1276[18:55:27] <S3> because weird
behavior
L1277[19:01:09] <S3> vifino: typing
something out
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L1280[19:17:51] <S3> it's not much but
should at least get you thinking about how things are put
together
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L1285[19:28:24] <greaser|q> S3: i don't
think you'll need anything too weird, maybe -mips1
-msoft-float
L1286[19:29:46] <vifino> S3:
Cheers.
L1287[19:31:13] <S3> oh yes, you did
mension there are no hard floats
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