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L3[00:03:00] <greaser|q> Saphire: i hope to have it implemented at some stage
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L6[00:18:50] <jhagrid7> Okay, I have a question for you smart OC people.
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L8[00:19:29] <Sandra> greaser|q, what's OCMIPS?
L9[00:19:37] <greaser|q> a MIPS implementation for OC
L10[00:20:11] <greaser|q> it's rather incomplete on the software side but the CPU's accurate enough for most stuff
L11[00:20:13] <Sandra> okay, what's MIPS?
L12[00:20:49] <greaser|q> a real CPU
L13[00:20:56] <greaser|q> well, usually a real CPU
L14[00:21:05] <greaser|q> but it's a very simple one
L15[00:21:11] <greaser|q> it was used in the playstation and the nintendo 64
L16[00:21:28] <Sandra> huh, that's cool.
L17[00:22:18] <greaser|q> the n64 had a more advanced one (MIPS-III architecture, R4300i core), the ps1 had a very basic one (MIPS-I architecture, modified R3051 core)
L18[00:22:22] <Sandra> my question for most of these architectures is how do you do component access?
L19[00:22:36] <greaser|q> currently you have to do some horrible shit, erm lemme just get you the docs
L20[00:22:42] <greaser|q> https://github.com/iamgreaser/ocmips/blob/MC1.7/MemoryMap.txt
L21[00:23:11] <greaser|q> hence why i put forth this proposal: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1730
L22[00:23:54] <Sandra> my... goodness.
L23[00:24:36] <greaser|q> it's basically a proposal to make components more real-CPU-friendly
L24[00:24:58] <Kodos> What's your question, jhagrid
L25[00:28:49] <Sandra> @jhagrid7, ask away?
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L29[00:37:34] <Saphire> greaser|q: bb ascii demo?
L30[00:37:46] <greaser|q> Saphire: what about it?
L31[00:38:09] <Saphire> Will it be on the OC MIPS? >_>
L32[00:38:28] <Saphire> oh
L33[00:38:30] <greaser|q> i'll probably have a crack at it some time, it SHOULD be easier to get working than linux anyway
L34[00:38:42] <Saphire> What about refresh rate?
L35[00:38:47] <greaser|q> if you haven't seen the demo itself, here's a recording of it not breaking (afaik): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ukhOAUseKY
L36[00:38:49] <MichiBot> BB ASCII Demo standard size running in Linux (With sound) | length: 9m 44s | Likes: 390 Dislikes: 5 Views: 48919 | by TheGeekUser
L37[00:39:06] <Kodos> Making a symmetrical solar eclipse in Photoshop is hard :x
L38[00:39:34] <Saphire> greaser|q: i'm now trying to get a working version for arch >_>
L39[00:39:48] <greaser|q> protip, use 32-bit for the sound server
L40[00:39:51] <greaser|q> aaaand i'm out
L41[00:39:52] <greaser|q> cya
L42[00:41:25] <jhagrid7> Sandra: My problem/question is: I tried to use my APU tier 2 (CPU 3 GPU 2) with a GPU tier 3, it was only trying to use the APU so it couldn't load the requested resolution of 115 40. How can I "f ...
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L44[00:43:50] <Kodos> You're gonna need to break apart that message, corded cut off at 'How can I f'
L45[00:45:06] <Saphire> bb just stops rendering as soon as music begins to play :|
L46[00:46:43] <jhagrid7> How can I "force" the computer to use the GPU tier 3 instead of the GPU 2 from the APU?
L47[00:47:26] <Sandra> @jhagrid7, presumably the default GPU is the one in the APU.
L48[00:47:51] <Sandra> what you'd need to do there is merely to set the other GPU as the default.
L49[00:48:00] <Sandra> (plus bind it to the screen.)
L50[00:48:17] <jhagrid7> Any help with doing that?
L51[00:49:18] <gamax92> greaser|q: "is the music also produced in ascii?"
L52[00:50:26] <Kodos> ~w gpu
L53[00:50:26] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:gpu
L54[00:52:02] <Sandra> I think component.setDefault will set the default component, (iirc.)
L55[00:52:06] <jhagrid7> Thanks Kodos, could you give me an example?
L56[00:53:21] <Kodos> component.setPrimary and gpu.bind
L57[00:54:41] <jhagrid7> What do I insert for the string and boolean?
L58[00:55:00] <Kodos> wat
L59[00:55:13] <Kodos> For whuch
L60[00:55:14] <jhagrid7> bind(address: string): boolean[, string]
L61[00:55:15] <Kodos> whichi, even
L62[00:55:28] <Kodos> Bind takes the address of the screen you're binding the GPU to
L63[00:55:33] <Kodos> It returns true if it worked
L64[00:55:52] <jhagrid7> I'm lost then.
L65[00:55:55] <Kodos> Make sure to call the right GPU by using component.proxy and the GPUs address
L66[00:57:08] <Kodos> Honestly, Jhagrid, every time I see someone explain something to you, it just goes over your head. You might think about using CC instead, as it's simpler to understand, and then once you get a basic grasp of programming with Lua and using CC in general, maybe come back to OC then. I don't mean to sound insulting, it just seems like you have a bit too much trouble understanding stuff
L67[00:57:51] <jhagrid7> I know Kodos, I would like to learn, but I should get into coding too so I understand some things.
L68[00:58:28] <Kodos> I highly recommend firing up CC and throwing yourself into Casper's Interactive Lua Tutorial. It runs inside of a CC computer, and makes you type example code correctly before progressing
L69[00:59:08] <jhagrid7> Wouldn't I still have lots to learn though, I mean CC is 5.1 while OC is 5.2/5.3
L70[00:59:27] <Kodos> Yeah, but even knowing 5.1 would make the transition easier than jumping right into Lua knowing little
L71[01:00:02] <Kodos> And if you're really wanting to just use OC, I have a (mostly) functional version of the tutorial that's been ported over to OC
L72[01:00:15] <Kodos> No idea if it's broken though, I haven't ran it in 1.6 yet
L73[01:00:25] <jhagrid7> Yes please.
L74[01:00:30] <Kodos> Alright, one sec
L75[01:00:31] <jhagrid7> I'm running 1.5 currently.
L76[01:01:09] <Kodos> Do you have an internet card?
L77[01:01:34] <jhagrid7> Yes.
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L79[01:01:42] <Kodos> Okay, copy and paste this next line into your shell
L80[01:01:54] <Kodos> wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MyNameIsKodos/All-My-Random-Shit/master/tutorial.lua luatutor.lua
L81[01:03:10] <jhagrid7> Ohh looks nice already.
L82[01:03:37] <Kodos> Let me know if anything breaks, or if it crashes. In the case of the latter, I need a screenshot of the error
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L84[01:11:40] <jhagrid7> Got to chapter 3, going to bed now, will finish the tut next time I'm on thought. Thanks for your help Kodos.
L85[01:11:48] <Kodos> No problem
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L90[01:56:18] <Shuudoushi> https://www.youtube.com/snoopavision?v=dErA3EG62cw
L91[01:56:21] <MichiBot> My First GRWM! Gothy Avant Garde Makeup- Extreme Winged Liner & Black Lipstick | length: 13m 52s | Likes: 4104 Dislikes: 125 Views: 217753 | by fullmetaljaxon
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L93[02:11:25] <Saintmare> hi everyone
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L106[02:56:59] <Saintmare> nyan
L107[02:58:41] <Lizzy> :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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L118[04:18:26] <Saintmare> im still here
L119[04:18:48] <bauen1> Lizzy?
L120[04:19:19] <Saintmare> i just listen a letter beacons
L121[04:19:30] <Saintmare> sorry for bad english
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L124[04:20:57] <KittyKath> bauen1?
L125[04:22:58] <bauen1> KittyKath: baltazarhowardivanb on the forums has a patron link in his signature which shows a patron page whit Lizzys profile pic
L126[04:23:20] <bauen1> Is that Lizzys patron page??
L127[04:23:41] <KittyKath> I am pretty sure Lizzy does not have a patreon page... <.<
L128[04:24:05] <KittyKath> %tell Lizzy Uh, check out baltazarhowardivanb on the forums in regards to patreon
L129[04:24:05] <MichiBot> KittyKath: Lizzy will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L132[04:48:28] <Saintmare> hi
L133[05:00:05] <Saintmare> pls help
L134[05:00:20] <Saintmare> http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ this SDR works?
L135[05:11:20] <Saintmare> ZOIEI
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L137[05:12:09] <Saintmare> smthng russian 7062 khz, 40m
L138[05:15:17] <Saintmare> "222 prinyato vam 1818"
L139[05:15:44] <Saintmare> like police radio
L140[05:16:34] <Saintmare> rera
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L142[05:27:49] <Saintmare> sad
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L150[06:19:38] <Sangar> o/
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L153[06:29:22] * KittyKath cuddles both Sangar and g
L154[06:29:34] <Sangar> hayo
L155[06:29:34] * g cuddles KittyKath
L156[06:29:38] <g> o/
L157[06:29:46] <g> You have great timing, I'll be back in a sec, gotta take the dog out
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L161[06:48:32] <Vexatos> Sangar, fix yer adobe bricks
L162[06:48:43] * Vexatos will have been stabbed
L163[06:48:49] <Sangar> wot
L164[06:48:59] <g> alright, I'mma back
L165[06:49:02] * g resumes hugging KittyKath
L166[06:49:09] <g> How's everyone today?
L167[06:49:21] <Sangar> fine. tired. fine
L168[06:50:02] <g> Up late again?
L169[06:50:49] <Sangar> accumulated deficit, plus up relatively early :P
L170[06:50:49] <KittyKath> I couldn't sleep so I said fuck it and got up at 3AM. So much coffee =.=
L171[06:51:01] <g> ah, I see :P
L172[06:51:06] <g> KittyKath: yeah that doesn't sound fun
L173[06:51:09] <Sangar> for playing badminton, didn't help :P
L174[06:51:16] <g> yeah, I bet :P
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L179[07:20:58] <SpaceKraken> My computer is doing weird things WTF is happenin PLS HALP!!!1
L180[07:21:13] <Kodos> Maybe explain what's going on
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L189[07:55:31] <Lizzy> KittyKath, will do
L190[07:55:36] * Lizzy has a vifino with her
L191[07:56:05] <Izaya> is that...
L192[07:56:07] <Izaya> huh.
L193[07:56:16] * Izaya waves to vifino and Lizzy
L194[07:56:36] * Lizzy waves back with vifino
L195[07:58:02] <Vexatos> Lizzy, pics or it didn't happen :3
L196[07:59:19] <Lizzy> Vexatos, maybe later
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L199[08:07:04] <KittyKath> Vexatos: Oh god please don't give them any ideas D:
L200[08:07:06] <Lizzy> %tell KittyKath doesn't seem to actually link anywhere
L201[08:07:07] <MichiBot> Lizzy: KittyKath will be notified of this message when next seen.
L202[08:07:18] <Lizzy> KittyKath, na, we already got plenty
L203[08:07:24] <vifino> :3
L204[08:07:27] <KittyKath> Lizzy: bauen1 notified me, I didn't check
L205[08:07:27] * Lizzy prods vifino
L206[08:07:41] * vifino wiggles
L207[08:07:43] <bauen1> Lizzy, there was/is a patron link
L208[08:07:52] <bauen1> let me search it
L209[08:07:59] <bauen1> uhm
L210[08:08:01] <vifino> Just so everyone is aware, Lizzy also poked me irl.
L211[08:08:02] <Lizzy> there's a patreon picture, it doesn't have a link
L212[08:08:06] <bauen1> got removed
L213[08:08:16] <KittyKath> bauen1: Browser history :P
L214[08:08:18] <vifino> KittyKath! \o/
L215[08:08:25] <bauen1> wait
L216[08:08:31] <Vexatos> KittyKath, uh... what ideas .-.
L217[08:08:36] <vifino> I'M BEING SO BRITTISH RIGHT NOW
L218[08:08:54] <KittyKath> Vexatos: Don't ask :I
L219[08:08:56] <bauen1> this page was linked in one of his patron thingys https://www.patreon.com/Michiyo?ty=h
L220[08:09:16] <Vexatos> KittyKath, uhm
L221[08:09:18] <vifino> In the UK, talking brittish english, drinking brittish tea and stuff.
L222[08:09:18] <Vexatos> okay?
L223[08:09:23] <vifino> SO BRITTISH
L224[08:09:27] <Vexatos> vifino, you eaten fish and chips yet
L225[08:09:32] <Stary2001> oh god
L226[08:09:34] <Vexatos> YOU ENJOYED SOME GLORIOUS MALT VINEGAR YET
L227[08:09:34] <Lizzy> bauen1, ah, that's Mimiru's one
L228[08:09:38] <Stary2001> vifino: get fish and chips
L229[08:09:44] <Stary2001> srs
L230[08:09:46] <bauen1> ok
L231[08:09:46] <Lizzy> Stary2001, Vexatos, that comes later
L232[08:09:51] <Stary2001> yes
L233[08:09:57] <vifino> Vexatos: All I did was do Lizzy's work
L234[08:09:58] <Stary2001> it's only like 2
L235[08:10:03] <Vexatos> Stary2001, tfw you definitely, abosulutely positively can not buy malt vinegar in Germany
L236[08:10:05] <Vexatos> help me
L237[08:10:05] <Vexatos> ;_;
L238[08:10:12] <Stary2001> rekt
L239[08:10:32] <Vexatos> chips are eaten with ketchup over here
L240[08:10:35] <Vexatos> and mayonnaise
L241[08:10:35] <Vexatos> ;_;
L242[08:10:47] <Vexatos> Luckily a bottle lasts us about 5 years
L243[08:10:59] <Vexatos> soooooooo I just need to go visit the UK every once in a while
L244[08:11:00] <Vexatos> >_>
L245[08:11:11] <Lizzy> vifino, IT IS TEA!
L246[08:11:20] <vifino> IT CONTAINS MILK
L247[08:11:35] <Lizzy> yes, that's the correct way to do tea
L248[08:11:37] <Inari> matcha milk tea
L249[08:11:38] <Lizzy> :P
L250[08:11:39] <Inari> best thing
L251[08:11:42] <Vexatos> vifino, I gather you do not enjoy the proper way of making tea?
L252[08:12:05] <vifino> Vexatos: I like the brittish tea, I just don't like the fact that it's being called "tea".
L253[08:12:09] <Inari> Vexatos: can tyou like
L254[08:12:16] <Vexatos> vifino, but it is tea
L255[08:12:16] <Inari> order some malt vinegar from amazon.co.uk
L256[08:12:18] <Vexatos> the leaf is called tea
L257[08:12:23] <Vexatos> the entire plant is called tea
L258[08:12:29] <Vexatos> how could the drink not be called tea?
L259[08:12:39] <vifino> Brittish tea is tea with milk.
L260[08:12:40] <vifino> .-.
L261[08:12:44] <Lizzy> Vifino: "How do you like your tea?" me: "Normal"
L262[08:12:56] <Stary2001> r e k t
L263[08:12:57] <Inari> http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=malt+vinegar
L264[08:13:01] <Inari> ?.?
L265[08:13:02] <Lizzy> also anyone know when & why jhagrid77 was banned?
L266[08:13:05] <Stary2001> vifino, yes, we put milk in our tea
L267[08:13:06] <Vexatos> Lizzy, help me, I don't like tea ;_;
L268[08:13:11] <vifino> Stary2001: y
L269[08:13:16] * Lizzy executes Vexatos
L270[08:13:19] <Lizzy> therer
L271[08:13:28] <vifino> Vexatos: wtf is wrong with u
L272[08:13:34] <Vexatos> I just don't enjoy its taste :<
L273[08:13:37] <Inari> milk makes tea better
L274[08:13:37] <Inari> :D
L275[08:13:43] <vifino> Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh.
L276[08:13:45] <Lizzy> Heathen
L277[08:13:47] <Vexatos> ikr
L278[08:13:52] <Lizzy> *Hethen
L279[08:13:55] <Vexatos> But I don't like coffee either
L280[08:14:20] <Vexatos> The hot drinks I genuinely like are spice and herb teas
L281[08:14:39] <Vexatos> like fennel or peppermint or sage
L282[08:14:54] <vifino> Lizzy: "Aaaah, I forgot the beer. Fak."
L283[08:15:00] <Stary2001> rekt
L284[08:15:08] <Vexatos> vifino, you missing the bread yet
L285[08:15:08] <Inari> hot chocolate made with coconut milk
L286[08:15:10] <Inari> *-*
L287[08:15:11] <Inari> so creamy
L288[08:15:17] <vifino> Vexatos: what bread
L289[08:15:21] <vifino> there is no bread.
L290[08:15:36] <Inari> wait vifino is in the UK? :o
L291[08:15:38] <Vexatos> I gather Inari likes hot and creamy drinks ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
L292[08:15:40] <Vexatos> I mean what
L293[08:15:44] <vifino> Inari: Yes.
L294[08:15:46] * Vexatos runs
L295[08:15:48] <Inari> Vexatos: lol
L296[08:15:50] <vifino> Physically next to Lizzy.
L297[08:15:51] <Stary2001> Inari, yeah, he flew over here.
L298[08:15:54] <Lizzy> Inari, yes, he is on my bed
L299[08:16:01] <vifino> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L300[08:16:02] <Inari> Lizzy: lllewd
L301[08:16:06] <Stary2001> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
L302[08:16:09] <Vexatos> vifino, I mean in Germany. do you miss the glorious German bread yet
L303[08:16:09] <Vexatos> :3
L304[08:16:10] <Inari> {vifino}
L305[08:16:11] <Lizzy> I am, however, on the floor at the moment, but that will come later
L306[08:16:17] <Stary2001> o..ooh.
L307[08:16:18] <Stary2001> ok.
L308[08:16:33] <Vexatos> Lizzy, no pics of that please, kthx
L309[08:16:34] <Vexatos> >_>
L310[08:16:38] <Inari> lol
L311[08:16:39] <Vexatos> KittyKath, you were right
L312[08:16:46] <Vexatos> what have I done
L313[08:17:11] <Lizzy> Vexatos, okay *puts camera on her phone into video mode*
L314[08:17:13] <Inari> well grats to vifino and Lizzy, have lewdness! *hands them a lewdness cannon*
L315[08:17:15] <Inari> just like uh
L316[08:17:17] <Inari> dont get pregnant
L317[08:17:17] <Inari> kay
L318[08:17:24] <Lizzy> we wont
L319[08:17:31] <Inari> /we/
L320[08:17:32] <Inari> heh
L321[08:17:49] <vifino> Inari: Lizzy was rambling about the "we not i" thing just now.
L322[08:17:50] <Vexatos> Lizzy, but a sane pic would be neat :3
L323[08:18:07] <Inari> define sane
L324[08:18:11] <vifino> whats a sane
L325[08:18:20] <vifino> ~w sane
L326[08:18:20] <ocdoc> Predicted http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-os.date
L327[08:18:25] <vifino> oh. ok.
L328[08:18:42] <Inari> given what i heard of how guild meetings tend to go i tend to be abit wary of meeting people in RL haha
L329[08:19:07] <KittyKath> This is not a guilt, this is a stable relationship :P
L330[08:19:08] <Inari> (i.e. everyone kinda expected different people of each other and thus after the meeting the atmosphere in the guild sucks)
L331[08:19:12] <Inari> wlel yeah :P
L332[08:19:15] <Inari> but reminded me of that
L333[08:19:22] <Vexatos> KittyKath, guilt?
L334[08:19:25] <Vexatos> I see what you did there
L335[08:19:30] <Inari> haha
L336[08:19:38] <Inari> KittyKath++
L337[08:19:45] <vifino> My god, Lizzy trying to speak german, so... so adorable *~*
L338[08:19:52] <Inari> lol
L339[08:20:03] <KittyKath> Saber did that yesterday. So cute :3
L340[08:20:12] <Vexatos> vifino, please no
L341[08:20:16] <Vexatos> German accent is the worst
L342[08:20:21] <Vexatos> I hate that I have one myself ;_;
L343[08:20:42] <Vexatos> I'm so uncomfortable speaking because of that :<
L344[08:21:01] <Vexatos> But Lizzy attempting German is probably fien
L345[08:21:03] <Vexatos> fine*
L346[08:21:14] <KittyKath> Vexatos: lol u suck :3
L347[08:21:17] <vifino> It's more than fine, it's SO ADORABLE
L348[08:21:31] <Vexatos> pics or it didn't happen
L349[08:21:39] * Vexatos patiently waits for picture of sound wave
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L351[08:22:01] <vifino> KittyKath: on a scale of one to Lizzy, how awesome do you think the picture of us two was? :P
L352[08:22:18] <vifino> OH GOD
L353[08:22:22] <vifino> THE PICTURE IS TERRIBLE
L354[08:22:48] <Stary2001> gg
L355[08:22:54] <KittyKath> vifino: (Lizzy^2)
L356[08:22:55] <Stary2001> vifino, send me one lelel
L357[08:23:02] <Vexatos> vifino, need proof ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )
L358[08:23:11] <Lizzy> hmm, to post this or not....
L359[08:23:25] <Vexatos> do it
L360[08:23:26] <Vexatos> dooo iiiit
L361[08:23:31] <vifino> dooooonttttt
L362[08:23:36] <Vexatos> 12/10 people say "Do it"
L363[08:23:37] <Lizzy> so far it's 1v1
L364[08:23:40] <Stary2001> s/n/iii/
L365[08:23:40] <MichiBot> <vifino> doooooiiittttt
L366[08:23:40] <KittyKath> Lizzy: Nah, keep them in suspense :3
L367[08:23:46] <Mimiru> Doooo Eeeeeeeeeet
L368[08:23:54] <Vexatos> Now it's 3v2
L369[08:23:54] <Lizzy> ohai Mimiru
L370[08:23:57] <Mimiru> o/
L371[08:23:59] <Lizzy> maybe later
L372[08:24:00] <Vexatos> We won
L373[08:24:01] <Inari> my BF thinks the e in Lena and the ee in Lee are the same sounds :x i disagree lol
L374[08:24:07] <Mimiru> q_q I'll be gone later!
L375[08:24:11] <Vexatos> Inari, Leena?
L376[08:24:16] <Inari> haha
L377[08:24:18] <Vexatos> Eenaree
L378[08:24:29] <Lizzy> we'll do a proper one, cause this one vifino is pulling a stupid face and i managed to cut myself out of the picture a bit
L379[08:24:32] <Inari> well if you speak that out in a german way it could be written Leena yeah :P though id ont think the e is as dragged
L380[08:24:34] <Mimiru> I know a Lena, she pronounces it Leena.. :P
L381[08:24:40] <Inari> but englihs Lee is more like Li(i) in german
L382[08:24:51] <Vexatos> Inari, Leeehnah!
L383[08:25:11] <Inari> haha
L384[08:25:18] <Inari> Mimiru: is she german? :P
L385[08:25:57] <Mimiru> Nein
L386[08:25:59] <Mimiru> :P
L387[08:26:06] <vifino> Man, I love this place.
L388[08:26:16] <Stary2001> xD
L389[08:26:21] <Stary2001> vifino, london is good. stoke is a shithole.
L390[08:26:23] <vifino> Well, I love being here. <3
L391[08:26:29] <Inari> Mimiru: well of course she will use the english pronounciationt hen
L392[08:26:30] <Vexatos> been to london two weeks ago
L393[08:26:32] <Vexatos> ;_;
L394[08:26:34] <Inari> persoanlly I prefer the german
L395[08:26:35] <Lizzy> vifino, in my room or #oc?
L396[08:26:49] <vifino> q_q
L397[08:26:50] <KittyKath> Lizzy / vifino: well you two lovebirds, I'm be gone for a bit, try to not fuck up *everthing*. Be however welcome to fuck eachother (not up though xD)
L398[08:26:51] <Inari> Lizzy: on your bed
L399[08:26:52] <Lizzy> or rather, my bed
L400[08:27:08] <vifino> KittyKath: :D
L401[08:27:09] <Vexatos> s/e/a/
L402[08:27:09] <Inari> so
L403[08:27:09] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> or rathar, my bed
L404[08:27:12] <Lizzy> KittyKath, sshh, that's later
L405[08:27:14] <Inari> how girly is Lizzy's room :p
L406[08:27:14] <vifino> See ya, KittyKath <3
L407[08:27:14] <Vexatos> Yup
L408[08:27:27] <Vexatos> Inari, 14
L409[08:27:35] <Vexatos> I won't tell you which scale though
L410[08:27:37] <vifino> Inari: it's perfectly fine, filled with computer parts, just like mine :D
L411[08:27:44] <Inari> haha
L412[08:27:57] <Izaya> the second best state for a room to be in
L413[08:28:03] <Lizzy> there was a lot of hair ont he floor but i cleaned that up yesterdya (i malt a lot)
L414[08:28:06] <Vexatos> my room is full of notes
L415[08:28:07] <Vexatos> :|
L416[08:28:12] <Vexatos> well it's mostly empty
L417[08:28:14] <Vexatos> and clean
L418[08:28:20] <Vexatos> because I never do anything in here :|
L419[08:28:24] <Inari> i like how for this town im a lot into tech but my room isnt filled at all with computer stuff and i dont even have a server or vserver or NAT or pi or so
L420[08:28:24] <Inari> :P
L421[08:28:24] <Izaya> my room contains a bed, a lamp and a table.
L422[08:28:35] <vifino> my room is messy and dusty.
L423[08:28:35] <vifino> :v
L424[08:28:38] <Stary2001> lol
L425[08:28:41] <Izaya> now the computer room...
L426[08:28:50] <Stary2001> :D
L427[08:28:52] <vifino> Then again, I have a rack in my room.
L428[08:28:54] <Inari> Lizzy: malt Oo
L429[08:28:55] <vifino> GET YOUR GAME ON
L430[08:28:58] <Lizzy> mine contains vifino, a bunkbed, 2 old hp computers, cables, stuff
L431[08:28:59] <Vexatos> How big is it :P
L432[08:29:06] <Lizzy> Inari, my hair comes out a fair bit
L433[08:29:06] <Stary2001> i do believe the word is molt
L434[08:29:08] <Stary2001> not malt
L435[08:29:12] <Vexatos> I live in an old big victorian-age house
L436[08:29:14] <Izaya> https://lainchan.org/tech/res/18328.html#20929 computer room
L437[08:29:18] * vifino melts Stary2001
L438[08:29:21] <Vexatos> so I have all the space in the world
L439[08:29:24] <Stary2001> no u
L440[08:29:30] <Inari> vifino: how small is Lizzy's place compared to german homes? xD
L441[08:29:39] <Stary2001> vifino, not saying i didnt say anything about you being in britain yte
L442[08:29:41] <Stary2001> but
L443[08:29:41] <Stary2001> i havent
L444[08:29:59] <Stary2001> Izaya, thats a lot of monitor man
L445[08:30:01] <Inari> i have 1 tower and 2 monitors
L446[08:30:02] <Inari> :<
L447[08:30:06] <Izaya> I need more.
L448[08:30:13] <Inari> Izaya: just wait like uh
L449[08:30:15] <Izaya> More specifically, I need 3 vertical-capable monitors
L450[08:30:16] <Inari> couple years
L451[08:30:19] <Inari> and you will need no monitors
L452[08:30:20] <Stary2001> i need to get my spare 1440x900 monitor
L453[08:30:21] <vifino> Inari: it's a little small compared to mine, but not tiny enough to be unusable
L454[08:30:23] <Stary2001> from ashby
L455[08:30:24] <Stary2001> .-.
L456[08:30:32] <Vexatos> Our house is huge
L457[08:30:37] <vifino> Stary2001: u w0t m8
L458[08:30:40] <Inari> cause VR headset
L459[08:30:41] <Stary2001> aka: i took it to his once and wasn't bothered enough to get it back
L460[08:30:43] <Vexatos> we have a 13 ha plot, most of which used by others though
L461[08:30:44] <Inari> \o/
L462[08:30:45] <Stary2001> vifino, yes correct
L463[08:30:53] <Izaya> Inari: I'll still want more screens
L464[08:30:58] <vifino> Stary2001: no the not saying shet you were saying
L465[08:31:01] <Inari> vr headset is like all the monitors you'd ever need
L466[08:31:01] <Inari> D:
L467[08:31:08] <Izaya> but I still want more
L468[08:31:11] <Inari> ...
L469[08:31:15] <Stary2001> vifino, i also have school stuff on..... monday tuesday thursday and friday!
L470[08:31:17] <Inari> but you cant evne see them lol
L471[08:31:25] <Izaya> but if you take the headset off
L472[08:31:31] <vifino> Stary2001: .-.
L473[08:31:31] <Inari> well
L474[08:31:33] <Inari> dont take it off
L475[08:31:39] <Stary2001> vifino, im srs
L476[08:31:52] <Inari> dont reminds me of school
L477[08:31:58] <Inari> im dreading monday cause uni :P
L478[08:32:06] <Izaya> I have exams on monday and wednesday
L479[08:32:11] <Stary2001> lol
L480[08:32:15] <Stary2001> Izaya, good luck.
L481[08:32:19] <Izaya> Fucks given: -11
L482[08:32:37] <Inari> i hate going like 1h30m on train to uni xD
L483[08:32:40] <Inari> its a pain
L484[08:33:03] <Vexatos> Izaya, -11i. They are only imaginary.
L485[08:33:06] <Inari> at least i attend like no lectures
L486[08:33:07] <Stary2001> hahahahaha
L487[08:33:08] <Inari> cause screw those
L488[08:33:12] <Izaya> Vexatos: true enough
L489[08:33:22] <Vexatos> Inari, It's 30 minutes for me
L490[08:33:24] <Vexatos> :3
L491[08:33:30] <Vexatos> We live right next to the city
L492[08:33:38] * Izaya has an hour bus ride to school - means he can sleep on the bus and not sleep at night
L493[08:33:57] <Inari> Vexatos: :p
L494[08:34:12] <Inari> Vexatos: well i did most of the tasks fro one course already (of 5) xD
L495[08:34:21] <Inari> the fifth task is prety ambigious though
L496[08:34:24] <Inari> so i will have to ask about that <.<
L497[08:39:14] <vifino> :< Lizzy left, can't poke her
L498[08:39:30] <vifino> \o/ she be back
L499[08:41:22] <Stary2001> lel
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L501[08:45:01] * CompanionCube is free this week
L502[08:45:03] <CompanionCube> yay
L503[08:45:46] <Stary2001> ha
L504[08:46:02] <Izaya> my eyes
L505[08:46:04] <Izaya> they burn
L506[08:46:06] <Izaya> q_q
L507[08:51:31] <vifino> KittyKath: convince Lizzy to get her butt on da bed, she is fixing her desktops linux install instead .-.
L508[08:51:54] <Izaya> does this surprise anyone
L509[08:51:58] <Stary2001> hahaahaha
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L515[08:59:38] <Lizzy> no, i was getting it ready so i could ssh into it whilst lying on the bed :P
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L517[09:01:38] <KittyKath> vifino: Shush, you know how to attract a woman to cuddles. :P
L518[09:02:28] <Saintmare> what about music break?
L519[09:03:26] <Lizzy> KittyKath, we be snuggling
L520[09:03:36] <Lizzy> brb
L521[09:04:43] * Saintmare bought a new Architects' album
L522[09:06:52] <Inari> i like how lizzy needs to be able to ssh into computer stuff while snuggling on the bed with her vifino :P
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L524[09:07:41] <g> Well you need something to do while you're doing that :P
L525[09:08:04] <Stary2001> hahaha
L526[09:08:12] <Stary2001> ofc
L527[09:08:23] <Inari> you could just enjoy the time together XD
L528[09:08:33] <g> aside from each other, Stary2001, not everyone is a rabbit :P
L529[09:08:48] <Stary2001> lmao
L530[09:08:51] <Stary2001> Inari, shh
L531[09:08:55] <Inari> shh yourself
L532[09:08:59] <Stary2001> k
L533[09:09:07] <Inari> actaully
L534[09:09:09] <Inari> ssh yourself!
L535[09:10:08] * Saintmare eats plush toys
L536[09:10:26] <Inari> now thats a business idea
L537[09:10:29] <Inari> eatable plush toys
L538[09:11:30] <g> that would join the vore fetish market quite quickly I'd imagine
L539[09:11:50] <Inari> ai thought vore was about bein geaten
L540[09:11:58] <g> can be the other way around too
L541[09:12:07] <g> afaik
L542[09:12:07] <Inari> :f
L543[09:12:14] <Inari> as long as its not that weird punching stuff
L544[09:13:48] <g> No clue what that is
L545[09:14:07] <Inari> fetish to punch a girl into the belly to violate her womb from outside or somethign weird like that
L546[09:14:18] <g> yeah that's pretty weird alright
L547[09:14:44] <g> sounds dangerous if you're hitting someone that hard
L548[09:14:44] * Sangar checks channel name
L549[09:14:49] <Inari> haha
L550[09:14:53] <Sangar> uhh
L551[09:14:56] <Sangar> :P
L552[09:14:58] <g> Sangar: we're in other coitus of course!
L553[09:15:00] <g> :P
L554[09:15:04] <Inari> we're always ontopic :P
L555[09:15:21] <Sangar> right :P
L556[09:16:10] <Inari> Sangar: which channels are you in whose names would fit then? :o
L557[09:16:24] <g> I'm in #starwarsanal, we could repurpose it
L558[09:16:26] <g> xD
L559[09:16:48] <g> rolling joke from yesterday, if you didn't get it yet :P
L560[09:16:57] <Sangar> :P
L561[09:17:02] <Sangar> mkay
L562[09:17:04] <Inari> haha
L563[09:17:52] <g> https://i.imgur.com/rd5jhzV.gifv
L564[09:18:34] <Inari> haha
L565[09:18:36] <Michiyo> ._.
L566[09:18:47] <g> :P
L567[09:18:53] <Michiyo> .-.
L568[09:19:16] * Saintmare unites the Selves
L569[09:20:03] <Saintmare> Selves in agreement: this one is in the bag!
L570[09:20:28] <Saintmare> anyone go dota?
L571[09:20:38] <g> been a while since I've played
L572[09:22:04] <Saintmare> goodbye
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L574[09:22:11] <g> k thenb
L575[09:22:13] <g> then*
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L577[09:25:29] <jhagrid77> Hey everyone.
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L579[10:00:37] <vifino> haiiiii <3 <3
L580[10:01:06] <vifino> lizzy says hai
L581[10:02:05] <vifino> Apparently Lizzy figured out how to type on a QWERTZ keyboard. \o/
L582[10:02:20] <vifino> All while snuggeling. +10 points for griffindor!
L583[10:02:51] <vifino> *lizzydore
L584[10:03:14] <Stary2001> lolol
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L587[10:17:35] *** Shuudoushi|Away is now known as Shuudoushi
L588[10:18:03] <Shuudoushi> oh, Sangar seems to be amongst us today, hi o/
L589[10:18:27] <Sangar> \o
L590[10:19:48] <Shuudoushi> sorry if the comment I left on #1698 doesn't make much sense, I just woke up >.>
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L592[10:22:44] <Inari> so i do like X a lot. I also do like A, U and B though, sometimes quite a lot too, and I know that, that isnt up for discussion. Yet when asked once every day what I would choose, I choose X. Is that normal since X is my overall preference, so despitel iking the others i will choose X?
L593[10:23:04] <Izaya> hey geniuses, how would I make an ssh tunnel into a sysvinit service?
L594[10:23:40] <Shuudoushi> Inari: wha?
L595[10:24:32] <Inari> Shuudoushi: what?
L596[10:24:37] <Inari> i think i've been pretty clear
L597[10:24:37] <Inari> xD
L598[10:25:10] <Shuudoushi> not to a mind that is still in the process of trying to remember how to be human...
L599[10:25:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, so you are thinking about a memory extension board? .-.
L600[10:27:13] <Shuudoushi> Inari: I just spotted 'normal' in you question(?), you're asking the wrong chan for advise on what 'normal' is >.>
L601[10:27:26] <Inari> lol
L602[10:27:53] <vifino> mlem
L603[10:28:07] <Sangar> Shuudoushi, yeah, please elaborate when you're more awake :P
L604[10:28:15] <Shuudoushi> lol
L605[10:28:25] <Sangar> Vexatos, not anytime soon, but if at all then probably like that yeah
L606[10:28:32] <Vexatos> Sangar, why not make it a rack mountable
L607[10:28:32] <Saphire> Shuudoushi: hey
L608[10:28:36] <Vexatos> It'd make the most sense
L609[10:28:40] <Vexatos> by far
L610[10:28:45] <Sangar> Vexatos, wat
L611[10:28:52] <Vexatos> cards are tiny. Mountables are not
L612[10:28:53] <Shuudoushi> o/
L613[10:28:58] <Vexatos> could easily fit a wam stick or two
L614[10:28:58] <Vexatos> :P
L615[10:29:45] <Sangar> a) that makes no sense b) that makes no sense c) that's not even possible (because ram has to be an internal component)
L616[10:30:01] <Vexatos> it has to?
L617[10:30:01] <Vexatos> aww
L618[10:30:06] <Sangar> yea
L619[10:30:08] <Vexatos> Why though .-.
L620[10:30:34] <Vexatos> Also a wam card would then need its own GUI for putting wam inside and blergh D:
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L622[10:31:14] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: you know how there is computer.*Memory(0 commands right?
L623[10:31:40] <Shuudoushi> why not just add another method dealing with RAM, that would allow you to unload stuff from RAM onto a HHD
L624[10:31:46] <Shuudoushi> and reload it when needed
L625[10:31:54] <Shuudoushi> i.g. SWAP
L626[10:32:03] <Shuudoushi> or page if you don't unix much
L627[10:32:45] <Sangar> oh that's what you mean. not really possible
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L629[10:32:58] <Shuudoushi> oh x.x
L630[10:32:59] <Sangar> i can't just rip out some memory out of the Lua state
L631[10:33:10] <Shuudoushi> well shit
L632[10:33:26] <Shuudoushi> looks like component bus/riser cards it is lol
L633[10:33:58] <Vexatos> Also uh. Sangar: I'd still love to add some dedodated wam to Computronics. How about an API interface akin to Memory but, like, SmartMemory or something, that, instead of double amount(), has double amount(double amountAfterHavingAppliedAllNormalMemoryPieces)
L634[10:34:00] <Sangar> well, somewhen, maybe. for now just use servers :X
L635[10:34:19] <Vexatos> that'd also allow addon devs to add memory that increases the memory by a percentage instead of a set amount
L636[10:34:29] <Vexatos> (I could maybe add that kind of stuff, too)
L637[10:34:30] <Sangar> <_>
L638[10:34:42] <Sangar> i don't really like that idea tbh
L639[10:34:43] <Vexatos> Magical memory made of Thaumium!
L640[10:34:50] <Shuudoushi> Sangar: servers are pretty much the only things I use lol http://goo.gl/7kotvm
L641[10:35:02] <Vexatos> Sangar, why the fish though are you even using math.round(driver.amount(stack)).toInt - 1
L642[10:35:09] <Vexatos> double.toInt
L643[10:35:10] <Vexatos> just
L644[10:35:11] <Vexatos> no
L645[10:35:12] <Vexatos> .-.
L646[10:35:35] <Sangar> ?
L647[10:36:09] <Sangar> probably because i need an index?
L648[10:37:08] <Vexatos> :<
L649[10:37:13] <asie> hi Sangar
L650[10:37:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, I do not like the idea either
L651[10:37:30] <Vexatos> but I'd love to add a creative memory stick that just maxes out ram
L652[10:37:36] <Sangar> hey asie
L653[10:38:08] <Vexatos> And Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY.toInt just doesn't do :P
L654[10:38:44] <asie> Sangar: i am disappointed OpenComputers didn't announce Stone Cases yesterday
L655[10:39:02] <Vexatos> asie, I already made a mod for that
L656[10:39:05] <Vexatos> :/
L657[10:39:18] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vu7rB remember?
L658[10:40:03] <asie> Vexatos: no but
L659[10:40:04] <asie> in OC
L660[10:40:06] <asie> and stone cases
L661[10:40:24] <Vexatos> oh waaaaaaaaait SANGAR
L662[10:40:26] <ds84182> ayy lmao
L663[10:40:28] <Sangar> asie, that thought actually crossed my mind :X
L664[10:40:30] <Vexatos> what
L665[10:40:31] <Vexatos> are
L666[10:40:32] <Vexatos> you
L667[10:40:33] <Vexatos> doing
L668[10:40:34] <Vexatos> in
L669[10:40:35] <Vexatos> this
L670[10:40:36] <Vexatos> method
L671[10:40:39] <Sangar> but i'm not much of an aprils fools fan :P
L672[10:40:45] <Vexatos> val sizes = Settings.get.ramSizes
L673[10:40:45] <Vexatos> val tier = math.round(driver.amount(stack)).toInt - 1
L674[10:40:45] <Vexatos> sizes(tier max 0 min (sizes.length - 1)) * 1024
L675[10:40:49] <Vexatos> you
L676[10:40:50] <g> stone cases, one hdd bay, no floppy bay, one memory bay, one card bay..
L677[10:40:53] <Vexatos> amount is the tier?
L678[10:40:55] <Vexatos> what?
L679[10:41:01] <Vexatos> I can't even add custom ram at all?
L680[10:41:21] <g> is that scala?
L681[10:41:24] <Vexatos> yes
L682[10:41:28] <g> that looks awful
L683[10:41:36] <Vexatos> I am literally not able to add RAM to OC
L684[10:41:44] <g> what kind of syntax is "x max y min z" ?
L685[10:41:47] <Vexatos> unless I use one of the config values
L686[10:42:00] <Vexatos> Math.min(Math.max(x, y), z)
L687[10:42:08] <g> wat
L688[10:42:25] <g> that.. wat?
L689[10:42:38] <Sangar> what's so hard to understand about that? >_>
L690[10:42:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, you are doing me a disappoint
L691[10:42:50] <g> that's a completely nonsensical syntax
L692[10:42:51] <g> ol
L693[10:42:52] <g> lol*
L694[10:42:56] <Vexatos> I can't add wam unless it's a config entrs
L695[10:42:57] <Michiyo> Makes sense to me.. :P
L696[10:42:58] <Vexatos> entry*
L697[10:43:11] <Sangar> Vexatos, tough
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L699[10:43:34] <g> How does that make sense?
L700[10:43:39] <g> the order isn't even logical ._.
L701[10:43:53] <Sangar> yes it is
L702[10:43:56] <Michiyo> ^
L703[10:43:59] <Sangar> it's just left to right
L704[10:44:21] <g> How does x max y even make sense
L705[10:44:28] <g> 7 max 2
L706[10:44:30] <Sangar> how does x + y make sense?
L707[10:44:43] <g> that's mathematical notation
L708[10:44:51] <g> that's just the way it's always written
L709[10:44:54] <Sangar> so? max is an operator in that context
L710[10:45:03] <g> max is a method
L711[10:45:10] <Sangar> every operator is a method
L712[10:45:13] <g> so it should be called like a method, no?
L713[10:45:18] <Sangar> no
L714[10:45:52] <Vexatos> in Scala, every operator that consists of more than 1 character is a method
L715[10:46:09] <Sangar> scala is fun like that :P
L716[10:46:10] <g> that.. sounds backwards
L717[10:46:21] <g> surely what you meant to say there is that every method is also an operator in scala?
L718[10:46:44] <Vexatos> no?
L719[10:46:44] <g> well, every one- or two-arg method I guess
L720[10:46:53] <Vexatos> you can override dev +=
L721[10:46:58] <Vexatos> def*
L722[10:47:13] <Vexatos> to make a+=b do things
L723[10:47:23] <Sangar> well, you can *treat* methods as operators generally, if that wording makes you more happy
L724[10:47:30] <Vexatos> yes
L725[10:47:43] <Vexatos> a match b is the same as a.match(b)
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L727[10:47:53] <g> this all just seems like the scala devs just wanting to be different
L728[10:47:57] <g> I can't think of a good use for it
L729[10:48:06] <Sangar> DSLs
L730[10:48:10] <g> Huh?
L731[10:48:13] <Sangar> that's the main reason it's there iirc
L732[10:48:15] <g> that's a bit vague
L733[10:48:16] <g> lol
L734[10:48:23] <Vexatos> so uh Sangar: Can you like.... fix your memory implementation in your Lua archs? .-.
L735[10:48:47] <Vexatos> It's literally impossible to add custom RAM to OC
L736[10:48:50] <Sangar> Vexatos, without breaking everything? not really
L737[10:49:01] <Vexatos> I get that the API is supposed to be a general number
L738[10:49:06] <Vexatos> and that the arch itself is what scales it
L739[10:49:12] <Vexatos> but you can not have it be the tier
L740[10:49:18] <Vexatos> that just does not make sense
L741[10:49:23] <Vexatos> "Breaking everything" how
L742[10:49:29] <Vexatos> just re-do amount() in your mem sticks
L743[10:49:34] <Sangar> if you can give me a formula that produces the current ram sizes so i don't need a lookup table
L744[10:49:36] <Vexatos> and that one method in NativeLuaArchitecture
L745[10:49:53] <Vexatos> Have memory.amount() use the config values
L746[10:49:56] <Vexatos> instead of the arch
L747[10:50:14] <Vexatos> let the arch just have amount() * 1024 maybe?
L748[10:51:42] <Sangar> that'd break those 1.5 other archs out there though :P
L749[10:51:53] <Sangar> eh
L750[10:51:55] <Sangar> maybe
L751[10:52:03] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://pastebin.com/ySBBdnCs
L752[10:52:05] <Vexatos> what about this
L753[10:52:15] <g> that seems a bit ambiguous as well actually
L754[10:52:18] <Vexatos> err * 1024
L755[10:52:27] <g> a match b = a.match(b) but x max y = max(x, y) ?
L756[10:52:37] <Vexatos> http://pastebin.com/R7bzpung there
L757[10:53:24] <Sangar> well, x.max(y). which is part of RichInt which in turn calls math.max(x, y)
L758[10:53:35] <Vexatos> wouldn't this work?
L759[10:53:43] <Sangar> (if you know c# think extension methods)
L760[10:53:58] <g> I don't, unfortunately, I plan on finding an excuse to learn it someday
L761[10:53:58] <g> lol
L762[10:54:06] <Sangar> heh. try unity :P
L763[10:54:28] <Sangar> Vexatos, prrrrobably. with some clamping to avoid overflows and all that goodness
L764[10:54:42] <Vexatos> No clamping needed
L765[10:54:46] <g> unity is a bad excuse
L766[10:54:47] <g> :P
L767[10:54:54] <g> I can't get my head around graphical stuff
L768[10:55:10] <Vexatos> Sangar: can I assume .toInt works like Java's (int) ?
L769[10:55:11] <Sangar> welp
L770[10:55:55] <Vexatos> Then Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY will be cast to Integer.MAX_VALUE. All you need to do is add a "max 0" after the .toInt
L771[10:56:03] <Vexatos> that'd also allow setting negative ram amount ;)
L772[10:56:12] <Vexatos> to decrease your current wam
L773[10:56:12] <Sangar> ohwellthen
L774[10:56:19] <Vexatos> (artificial memory usage? waaaat?)
L775[11:01:07] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://pastebin.com/mvbyQvzp the other side
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L777[11:02:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, do you prefer 0D or 0.0 in your code
L778[11:03:09] <Sangar> 0.0 if absolutely necessary, just 0 otherwise
L779[11:03:24] <Vexatos> k
L780[11:03:32] <Vexatos> Yea I need it as the initial param for foldLeft
L781[11:03:40] <Sangar> ah
L782[11:03:47] <Vexatos> since that determines the type of acc
L783[11:03:57] <Sangar> yeah
L784[11:05:41] * Lizzy yawns
L785[11:11:34] <Vexatos> "For example, the built-in memory modules
L786[11:11:34] <Vexatos> * provide 1 for tier one, 2 for tier 1.5, 3 for tier 2, etc."
L787[11:11:37] <Vexatos> not anymore :/
L788[11:11:56] <Vexatos> I agree that the previous system was easier, but it wasn't even usable for addons before
L789[11:12:10] <Vexatos> since it was using the number as a tier
L790[11:12:19] <Vexatos> for a lookup table >_>
L791[11:16:05] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/smuL2Ki.png
L792[11:19:24] <Vexatos> on noice Sangar
L793[11:19:28] <Vexatos> now what the hell is kernelMemory
L794[11:19:57] <Sangar> magic (TM)
L795[11:20:35] <Vexatos> it is
L796[11:20:39] <Vexatos> memory used by the kernel
L797[11:21:03] <Sangar> well, machine.lua now, but yeah. should really rename that
L798[11:21:10] <Vexatos> except that uh
L799[11:21:14] <Vexatos> recomputeMemory does
L800[11:21:14] <Vexatos> if (kernelMemory > 0) {
L801[11:21:14] <Vexatos> l.setTotalMemory(kernelMemory + memory)
L802[11:21:14] <Vexatos> }
L803[11:21:45] <Vexatos> and, well
L804[11:21:51] <Vexatos> if memory is Integer.MAX_VALUE
L805[11:21:52] <Vexatos> :/
L806[11:22:03] <Vexatos> that is now smaller than 0.
L807[11:22:06] <Vexatos> :|
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L809[11:23:10] <Vexatos> what do you even need kernelMemory for
L810[11:23:40] <Lizzy> bacon
L811[11:23:59] <Stary2001> >2.0/2
L812[11:24:01] <Stary2001> thanks factorio
L813[11:24:05] <Sangar> iirc it was to avoid changes to machine.lua leading to memory fluctuations messing with peoples' setups
L814[11:24:05] <Vexatos> aha. it subtracts the memory used by machine.lua
L815[11:24:27] <Vexatos> why can't you just use a double for this D;
L816[11:25:45] <Vexatos> that'd mean I do need to clamp the memoryInBytes
L817[11:25:48] <Vexatos> but to what
L818[11:25:54] <Vexatos> which sane number would it be clamped to
L819[11:26:52] * vifino bacons Lizzy
L820[11:26:57] <Lizzy> :3
L821[11:27:00] <vifino> :3
L822[11:32:13] <Lizzy> :3
L823[11:32:34] * Vexatos asks Sangar
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L825[11:43:30] <Vexatos> Sangar, I guess 1000000000 (1GB) is a sane maximum? ;_;
L826[11:43:44] <Vexatos> to not cause integer overflows
L827[11:43:53] <Saphire> :|
L828[11:43:57] <Saphire> 1024 pls
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L830[11:44:12] <Sangar> <_>
L831[11:45:07] <Vexatos> Or uh
L832[11:45:12] <Vexatos> does Lua has the same issues as Java does
L833[11:45:18] <Vexatos> that the GC will be lazy with big RAM
L834[11:45:38] <AlexisMachina> How can i convince someone to use OC instead of CC? lol
L835[11:46:04] <Vexatos> read http://ocdoc.cil.li/start
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L837[11:48:56] <Vexatos> Sangar, ^
L838[11:49:04] <Sangar> idk
L839[11:52:32] <Vexatos> Then tell me what a sane max RAM number for a single OC computer would be
L840[11:52:41] <Sangar> 4mb
L841[11:53:06] <Vexatos> a single Tier 3 server has more than that IIRC
L842[11:53:21] <Vexatos> Yup
L843[11:53:28] <Vexatos> with 4 tier 3.5 wam sticks it's 4194304
L844[11:53:31] <Vexatos> so 4MiB
L845[11:53:37] <Sangar> that's what i said :P
L846[11:53:44] <Vexatos> You said 4MB
L847[11:53:49] <Vexatos> and that's only default configs, mind
L848[11:55:45] <cloakable> What can you shove into a T3 server?
L849[11:55:47] <Sangar> as if anyone ever normally means anything else by mb -.-
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L851[11:56:09] <Vexatos> cloakable, 4 T3 ram sticks I think
L852[11:56:12] <Vexatos> or was that the creative server?
L853[11:56:42] <gamax92> Vexatos: staph bein a shit.
L854[11:57:00] <cloakable> Vexatos: Yeah, but CPU/cards/disks?
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L856[11:58:35] <vifino> :D Gonna play rocket league with Lizzy :D
L857[11:58:44] <vifino> wooohooooo
L858[11:59:01] <Lizzy> :3
L859[11:59:08] <cloakable> :D
L860[11:59:17] <cloakable> zoom zoom
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L863[12:08:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, dunno, that would not allow increasing memory in the config very much
L864[12:08:19] <Vexatos> it's quite... close to the actual max
L865[12:09:04] <gamax92> Vexatos: 4MB is close to 4GB?
L866[12:09:31] <Vexatos> gamax92, Sangar wanted 4MiB as the hardcoded max for memory per CPU
L867[12:09:46] <Vexatos> but the tier 3 server has that as the max at default configs already
L868[12:09:50] <Vexatos> so imo it's quite... close?
L869[12:10:20] <gamax92> ... why do we need a max
L870[12:10:26] <Michiyo> ^
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L872[12:12:25] <gamax92> Vexatos: "if memory is Integer.MAX_VALUE" why are you giving an OC computer 2GB anyway?
L873[12:13:08] <Vexatos> gamax92, basically I am rewriting the memoryInBytes method to allow for addons to add custom memory components
L874[12:13:20] <gamax92> Isn't that already possible
L875[12:13:23] <Vexatos> no
L876[12:13:26] <Vexatos> right now it's hardcoded to the values set in the configs
L877[12:14:20] <Vexatos> it may only be one of those 6 values
L878[12:15:04] <Vexatos> right now the limit is Integer.MAX_VALUE
L879[12:15:15] <Vexatos> but integer overflows everywhere~
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L881[12:16:36] <Vexatos> it's really bad right now
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L885[12:23:03] * Vexatos pokes Sangar with a stick
L886[12:23:13] <gamax92> :/
L887[12:23:24] <gamax92> F.A.Q for this program is in Russian
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L890[12:30:32] <payo-remote> gamax92: i'll test out my code now on wocchat in-game on a tier-2 screen
L891[12:30:42] <payo-remote> can you give me a specific example of what i should look for?
L892[12:31:10] <gamax92> payo-remote: so what you'll want to do is comment out a certain thing
L893[12:31:30] <payo-remote> yeah?
L894[12:31:52] <gamax92> payo-remote: https://github.com/OpenPrograms/gamax92-Programs/blob/master/wocchat/wocchat.lua#L445-L446
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L896[12:32:08] <payo-remote> Sangar: agreed, 4mb is always+ 4MiB, unless your selling something (e.g. storage and bandwidth)
L897[12:32:17] <gamax92> :P
L898[12:32:43] <payo-remote> gamax92: change that to take a 2nd param?
L899[12:32:46] <payo-remote> and pass it through?
L900[12:32:48] <gamax92> no just comment it out
L901[12:32:53] <payo-remote> oh ok
L902[12:33:07] <payo-remote> oh nice
L903[12:33:08] <gamax92> then the chat bar should go black text on black
L904[12:33:11] <payo-remote> i see the comment a few lines up :)
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L906[12:33:17] <payo-remote> hehe
L907[12:33:21] <payo-remote> yay! i suck!
L908[12:33:37] <gamax92> :/
L909[12:33:56] <Saintmare> lol
L910[12:34:00] <Saintmare> o/
L911[12:34:18] <gamax92> hey there
L912[12:34:19] <payo-remote> how can i get into palette color mode in ocemu?
L913[12:34:32] <gamax92> it's not a mode?
L914[12:34:37] <Saintmare> what is ocemu?
L915[12:34:41] <gamax92> an oc emulator
L916[12:34:49] <payo-remote> s/an/THE/
L917[12:34:49] <MichiBot> <gamax92> THE oc emulator
L918[12:34:55] <gamax92> there are others
L919[12:35:05] <payo-remote> yeah, if there weren't i'd have said "the"
L920[12:35:14] <payo-remote> but it's awesome, so, all-caps
L921[12:36:05] <gamax92> what was sangar's fix for the nil problem again ...
L922[12:36:14] <payo-remote> saying not not
L923[12:36:24] <payo-remote> i dont know the context, but i remember that was said
L924[12:36:25] <gamax92> oh I wonder :P
L925[12:36:47] <gamax92> #lua v = nil return select("#", v ~= nil and v)
L926[12:36:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L927[12:36:54] <gamax92> #lua v = true return select("#", v ~= nil and v)
L928[12:36:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L929[12:36:59] <gamax92> huh, how does my code work.
L930[12:37:08] <gamax92> it shouldn't
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L933[12:44:02] <gamax92> payo-remote: you seem to have an issue understanding how palettes work
L934[12:44:59] <gamax92> if you're on T2 and T3, they're always there (and for T2, the only thing there), no need to enable them or something
L935[12:45:05] <payo-remote> in my experience working with paletted colors, you had to set the mode to nbits
L936[12:45:41] <gamax92> the only thing that's mode like in OC would be the depth
L937[12:45:42] <Sangar> gamax92, not not
L938[12:46:12] <Sangar> also hai payo!
L939[12:46:18] <payo-remote> herow
L940[12:46:24] <gamax92> where 1) Black and monochrome color (defaults to white, is not changeable in runtime)
L941[12:46:45] <gamax92> 4) Palettes only, using RRGGBB format still works and will just map to a palette entry
L942[12:47:18] <gamax92> 8) 685 RGB and palettes, using RRGGBB format will map to whatever's closest, a 685 color or a palette entry
L943[12:48:10] <gamax92> in 4 and 8 though, passing true for the second argument to setForeground/setBackground will force a palette, making the first value no longer a 0xRRGGBB format but a palette index
L944[12:48:52] <payo-remote> btw, depth is all i was referring to when i said "mode"
L945[12:49:06] <payo-remote> i didn't know how to change the depth of the ocemu window
L946[12:49:14] <gamax92> same way in oc, gpu.setDepth
L947[12:49:38] <payo-remote> :) didn't know gpu had that method
L948[12:50:04] <gamax92> also just noticed wocchat doesn't properly support depth
L949[12:50:08] <gamax92> it's calling maxDepth and not getDepth
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L951[12:55:33] <Saintmare> power furry
L952[12:55:58] <gamax92> that's nice dear
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L954[12:58:12] <payo-remote> i should have looked at wocchat sooner
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L956[13:06:52] <Vexatos> snagar help
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L958[13:11:08] <payo-ocemu-wocchat> test
L959[13:13:26] <KittyKath> test back
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L961[13:16:44] <payo-remote> #lua f=function(d) return select('#',d) end return f()
L962[13:16:45] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L963[13:18:01] <gamax92> payo-remote: that'll always be 1
L964[13:18:11] <payo-remote> yeah was just checking that only ... can be 0
L965[13:24:26] * Saintmare gonna give up
L966[13:24:39] * Saintmare gonna sleeeeeeep
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L969[13:29:41] <Michiyo> Wooo! 4th Sharknado movie!
L970[13:29:43] * Michiyo shoots self
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L973[13:30:25] <Michiyo> Sharknado: #The 4th Awakens ....
L974[13:30:25] <payo-ocemu-wocchat> maybe this works
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L976[13:34:03] <Vexatos> Sangar, look at me two fancy PRs O:
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L980[13:35:01] <Sangar> rotated oc_sc? heresy!
L981[13:35:14] <payo-oc-wocchat> gamax92: it goes very yellow when i exit
L982[13:36:09] <gamax92> correct
L983[13:36:15] <payo-oc-wocchat> esc
L984[13:36:16] <payo-oc-wocchat> sec*
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L987[13:36:40] <payo-oc-wocchat> ok
L988[13:36:48] <payo-oc-wocchat> but if i scroll the term window, all is well
L989[13:36:54] <gamax92> It tries to make you very sad and regret that you exited wocchat by vomiting on your screen
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L991[13:37:05] <payo-oc-wocchat> :)
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L993[13:38:22] <payo-oc-wocchat> what is term.read's stupidity with the hint handler?
L994[13:38:47] <gamax92> oh that might just be old term stuff
L995[13:39:11] <gamax92> iirc it wouldn't do any tab completion if there was only one thing to complete
L996[13:39:26] <payo-oc-wocchat> huh weird
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L999[13:41:08] <gamax92> these long nicknames, pls.
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L1001[13:41:47] <Michiyo> lol
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L1003[13:42:10] <gamax92> das better <3
L1004[13:42:15] <payo-woc> :)
L1005[13:42:34] <Michiyo> woo rotated oc_sc
L1006[13:42:36] <payo-woc> so wocchat really finds the crapiness of the term lib inds th
L1007[13:42:44] <payo-woc> ha, sorry ^
L1008[13:42:54] <gamax92> well that generally happens when you're not using it correctly like I am
L1009[13:43:23] <payo-woc> my hopes are to have an extensible api
L1010[13:43:29] <payo-woc> so, wocchat shows well how i failed at thatt
L1011[13:43:36] <gamax92> ?
L1012[13:43:38] <gamax92> not really?
L1013[13:43:50] <payo-woc> term.bind and term.internal.open and ... the wrapping
L1014[13:43:53] <payo-woc> it's just bad
L1015[13:44:11] <gamax92> oh well yeah, but you said yourself that it's just internal stuff because you didn't have an api yet
L1016[13:44:12] <payo-woc> i.....want this to be easier
L1017[13:44:35] <payo-woc> wocchat is an awesome case study for it though :)
L1018[13:45:01] <Michiyo> s/ case study for it though :)//
L1019[13:45:01] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Invalid regex Unmatched closing ')' near index 26
L1020[13:45:04] <Michiyo> oh
L1021[13:45:05] <Michiyo> right
L1022[13:45:08] <Michiyo> meh
L1023[13:45:11] <payo-woc> and i should make bind internal too, i'm not convinced i got it right
L1024[13:45:27] <payo-woc> wocchat is an awesome!
L1025[13:45:41] <Michiyo> I missed "an" the first time, which is why I said meh, instead of fixing it
L1026[13:46:01] <payo-woc> s/.*/meh/
L1027[13:46:03] <Michiyo> So shush
L1028[13:46:15] <Vexatos> there, Sangar, all fixed
L1029[13:46:24] <Vexatos> it now changes rotatable.pitch if it's UP
L1030[13:46:30] <Vexatos> to make sure the keyboard can actually be placed
L1031[13:46:32] <Vexatos> also uh
L1032[13:46:34] <gamax92> s/shush/give me a raise/
L1033[13:46:34] <MichiBot> <Michiyo> So give me a raise
L1034[13:46:39] <Vexatos> I probably should do the same for down
L1035[13:46:39] <Michiyo> \o/
L1036[13:46:55] <gamax92> I keep forgetting what I'm doing.
L1037[13:46:56] <Vexatos> Because it doesn't connect its node through the screen, does it
L1038[13:46:59] <Vexatos> Sangar ^
L1039[13:47:26] <Sangar> yeah. allrighty, will test in a bit
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L1041[13:47:49] <Vexatos> Ok
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L1043[13:47:52] <Vexatos> then I'll do the same for DOWN
L1044[13:48:07] <payo-woc> test
L1045[13:48:28] <Inari> them people using werid resolutions or irc clients bullying people into using short names
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L1048[13:49:26] <Inaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaari> \o/
L1049[13:49:31] <Inaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> woo
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L1052[13:50:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, dat "force push" button in IDEA <3
L1053[13:50:32] <gamax92> I'll just move the bar back though
L1054[13:50:32] <Vexatos> (with amend check box :()
L1055[13:50:37] <Vexatos> )
L1056[13:50:49] <payo-woc> if use smart git
L1057[13:50:52] <payo-woc> it has a force push, too
L1058[13:51:02] <payo-woc> but you have to enable it in the options first
L1059[13:51:35] <payo-woc> i like force push for my dev branches that i also like to view in github
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L1061[13:51:57] <payo-woc> id prefer smartgit let me allow force push on select branche
L1062[13:52:15] <Michiyo> I'd rather have force lightning, or force choke... :P
L1063[13:52:23] <Michiyo> Who am I kidding... I'm a light side teddy bear, neither would get used :/
L1064[13:52:58] <Michiyo> ⁽ᵒᶠᵗᵉᶰ⁾
L1065[13:53:15] <SkySom> I'd use them too much
L1066[13:53:57] <payo-woc> autoasphyxiation?
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L1069[13:54:58] * Michiyo fires ds84182
L1070[13:55:14] * Lizzy hires Michiyo
L1071[13:55:41] * gamax92 raises Lizzy
L1072[13:55:46] <gamax92> no ... doesn't sound correct
L1073[13:55:47] <Michiyo> I guess I'm gonna be doing some work on the Display Panels soon (tm) should make Kodos happy
L1074[13:55:55] <Michiyo> though it means I have to do more GUI work... :/
L1075[13:56:18] * vifino takes care of Lizzy
L1076[13:56:27] <Lizzy> :£
L1077[13:56:30] <Lizzy> :£ *
L1078[13:56:32] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L1079[13:56:33] <Lizzy> :3
L1080[13:56:37] <Lizzy> fuck you shift key]
L1081[13:56:39] <Vexatos> In other news, http://git.io/vV8wa could anyone look over it?
L1082[13:57:00] <Vexatos> Lizzy is POUNDING that key
L1083[13:57:04] <Vexatos> http://badum-tish.com
L1084[13:57:28] <Lizzy> Vexatos, i'm not the one who's gonna be doing the pounding....
L1085[13:57:40] <Vexatos> THE KEY, LIZZY
L1086[13:57:42] <vifino> *wink wink* *nudge nudge*
L1087[13:57:43] <Vexatos> I AM TALKING ABOUT THE KEY
L1088[13:57:46] <Vexatos> GOD DAMNIT
L1089[13:57:52] <gamax92> LIZZY YOU NEED TO FIND THE BOX
L1090[13:57:55] <Michiyo> THE KEY!
L1091[13:58:08] <vifino> I found Lizzy's bo-- Nevermind.
L1092[13:58:21] <Stary2001> oh...ok....
L1093[13:58:28] <gamax92> leave it to vifino to ruin the fun
L1094[13:58:31] <Stary2001> vifino, we wont judge you if you wanna do that
L1095[13:58:35] <Stary2001> just
L1096[13:58:37] <Stary2001> we dont want to know
L1097[13:58:38] <Stary2001> ok
L1098[13:58:40] <Stary2001> :^)
L1099[13:58:42] <vifino> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1100[13:58:53] <gamax92> no lenny face.
L1101[13:58:59] <vifino> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)?
L1102[13:58:59] <Lizzy> (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1103[13:59:01] <gamax92> nobody gives a fuck, so don;t post it
L1104[13:59:17] <Stary2001> (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1105[13:59:18] <Lizzy> gamax92, false
L1106[13:59:24] <gamax92> Lizzy: no fuck off
L1107[13:59:28] <Vexatos> vifino, it's called corpse, not body ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1108[13:59:38] <gamax92> oh jeez XD
L1109[13:59:42] <Lizzy> (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1110[13:59:46] <vifino> gamax92: calm down.
L1111[13:59:51] <gamax92> vifino: nah
L1112[14:00:00] <vifino> gamax92: seriously, do it.
L1113[14:00:02] <gamax92> I'm bored so I decided to yell at you
L1114[14:00:08] <Vexatos> Lizzy, so do we have a socially acceptable pic of you two yet? >_>
L1115[14:00:13] <vifino> no
L1116[14:00:16] <Stary2001> preferably something clothed
L1117[14:00:19] <Vexatos> ^
L1118[14:00:24] <gamax92> ^
L1119[14:00:39] <Lizzy> Vexatos, tomrrow if the weather is nice we'll take a pic when we're sitting on the lawn
L1120[14:00:39] <Vexatos> We don't need #vifinoandlizzynsfw as an IRC channel kthx
L1121[14:00:46] <gamax92> Sangar: you still around?
L1122[14:00:47] <Vexatos> ok
L1123[14:01:05] <gamax92> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/master-MC1.7.10/assets/misc/banner.png what is this block the cable is connected to
L1124[14:01:16] <Vexatos> the RAID?
L1125[14:01:23] <gamax92> ahh okay
L1126[14:01:25] <Vexatos> uh no
L1127[14:01:27] <Vexatos> it's just an AID
L1128[14:01:42] <Vexatos> if you have two or more of them, you have AIDs ;_;
L1129[14:01:43] <Lizzy> -ChanServ- #vifinoandlizzynsfw is now registered to Lizzy.
L1130[14:04:27] <Saintmare> we'll take care
L1131[14:04:27] <Vexatos> :|
L1132[14:04:49] <Saintmare> The pool is closed.
L1133[14:04:57] <gamax92> your life is a nightmare
L1134[14:05:38] <Vexatos> asie, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1733 dedodated wam is coming to a Computronics near you!
L1135[14:06:07] <Vexatos> Not sure if 50MB is a sane max but let's hope the Lua GC is not as bad as the Java one
L1136[14:06:15] <Vexatos> (does anyone in here know something about the Lua GC)
L1137[14:06:32] <gamax92> ds84182 maybe
L1138[14:08:15] <Saintmare> GIVE DIRETIDE
L1139[14:08:40] <Michiyo> Hmm OpenSec could use some extra RAM with all the bloat Shuu adds...
L1140[14:08:42] <Saintmare> Just Saint + Nightmare
L1141[14:08:58] <asie> Sangar: HYPE!
L1142[14:09:18] <Saintmare> つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
L1143[14:09:22] <asie> you should advertise it on oc.cil.li
L1144[14:09:24] <asie> or something
L1145[14:10:22] <Saintmare> つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
L1146[14:10:39] <Sangar> hmm, good point, guess i should link the announcement in a news post
L1147[14:10:46] <Saintmare> I crafted a computer
L1148[14:10:58] <Vexatos> god damnit gfyct is lagging me out
L1149[14:11:22] <asie> Sangar: yeah, and possibly explain it a bit better than i have
L1150[14:11:30] <Sangar> if i can :X
L1151[14:11:48] <asie> :D
L1152[14:11:52] <asie> still, i'm excited
L1153[14:11:59] <asie> someone made a video in Russian about BTM
L1154[14:12:03] <asie> this one might actually be huge
L1155[14:12:06] <Sangar> :D
L1156[14:12:08] <Saintmare> Then down the lever what turn on the IC reactor
L1157[14:12:20] <Sangar> <_>
L1158[14:12:22] <Saintmare> BOOM, SHAKA-LAKA
L1159[14:12:38] <Saintmare> It was nice
L1160[14:12:38] <Vexatos> asie, remember the... was it Chinese? people last BTM?
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L1162[14:12:48] <Sangar> is Saintmare a bot spouting random monte-carlo phrases?
L1163[14:13:04] <Michiyo> Sangar, I can neither confirm, nor deny
L1164[14:13:10] <Saintmare> ou
L1165[14:13:12] <asie> Vexatos: yes
L1166[14:13:16] <asie> i found they had a liveblog on baidu
L1167[14:13:19] <asie> :D
L1168[14:13:24] <Vexatos> Resonant Host being the AE2 booth?
L1169[14:13:27] <Sangar> :O
L1170[14:13:30] <gamax92> Michiyo probably feel all high and mighty on that throne, eh?
L1171[14:13:30] <Saintmare> i just very bad in english
L1172[14:13:32] <asie> Vexatos: Yeah.
L1173[14:13:33] <Saintmare> and
L1174[14:13:37] <asie> Resonant Host will have a booth again, of course
L1175[14:13:40] <asie> and they're giving us a machine again
L1176[14:13:41] <Saintmare> and i'm noob
L1177[14:13:58] <Michiyo> gamax92, wa?
L1178[14:15:13] <Saintmare> asie, what is BTM?
L1179[14:15:23] <payo-remote> gamax92: so yes, the palette support seems to work with my changes
L1180[14:15:31] <asie> Saintmare: http://blog.asie.pl/2016/03/29/btm16/
L1181[14:15:36] <payo-remote> but i'm finding other weirdness in the new term that is irritating me. so yeah
L1182[14:15:40] <payo-remote> now i'm distracting fixing crap
L1183[14:16:15] <Vexatos> you know, asie... I really want to make some OC demo too >_>
L1184[14:16:19] <Vexatos> buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
L1185[14:16:25] <Vexatos> ideas :X
L1186[14:16:27] <payo-remote> Sangar: as for releasing the code for 1.6 (beta?) i'm find with that. i'm not planning on changing any api from here on out. just a couple bug fixes. i should have a PR this weekend. i have some down time
L1187[14:16:38] <Saintmare> asie, you want a Russian video about BTM?
L1188[14:16:58] <Vexatos> asie, link to the Russian video? .-.
L1189[14:17:42] <asie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkLz4wo5MGA&feature=youtu.be
L1190[14:17:42] <MichiBot> Что Такое BTM [Better Than Minecon]? | length: 3m 59s | Likes: 11 Dislikes: 2 Views: 205 | by Rumaruka
L1191[14:17:54] <Sangar> payo-remote, good good, including the tab fix i guess? :3 and yeah, rc probably even.
L1192[14:18:10] <Saintmare> BTM looks very fine
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L1194[14:18:24] <payo-remote> oh yeah! that's in my current branch
L1195[14:18:25] <payo-remote> hmmm
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L1197[14:19:12] <Sangar> dat gradient "subtitle", so hard to read :X
L1198[14:20:23] <Michiyo> I've thought about doing a BTM booth... I just don't know what I'd actually do/show..
L1199[14:20:23] <Sangar> going by the text, russian is a lot more verbose than i'd've thought :P
L1200[14:20:48] <payo-remote> Michiyo: i want to show off OpenOS 1.6 stuff
L1201[14:20:53] <Vexatos> nah they're talking about other things, too, Sangar
L1202[14:20:58] <Vexatos> the subs are really just a summary
L1203[14:21:03] <payo-remote> i wonder if i'll even have 1 person! :) haha
L1204[14:21:10] <payo-remote> 'uuuu neat. shell commands!'
L1205[14:21:12] <payo-remote> :)
L1206[14:21:13] * payo-remote would love it
L1207[14:21:14] <Michiyo> payo-remote, sure, but OpenOS 1.6 stuff is awesome..
L1208[14:21:14] <Sangar> Vexatos, don't ruin my much more amusing interpretation :P
L1209[14:21:16] <Vexatos> Russian is verbose, but not much more than German
L1210[14:21:21] <payo-remote> :D
L1211[14:21:23] <Saintmare> what a speed
L1212[14:21:23] <Vexatos> not Japanese levels of verbosity :P
L1213[14:22:31] <Sangar> jap is actually kinda non-verbose in my experience :X helps a lot that they tend to leave away half the sentence >_>
L1214[14:22:40] <Vexatos> asie, actually... could I show my OC vending machine? I mean, it's interactive so you aren't really able to see anything without checking the chests >_>
L1215[14:22:55] <Sangar> use crystal chests?
L1216[14:22:58] <Sangar> or bookshelves?
L1217[14:23:20] <Vexatos> I'd need some kind of wall to display items on, those being one inventory :P
L1218[14:23:33] <Vexatos> Sangar, http://vexatos.com/phora/dev/vending_machine_2.mp4
L1219[14:23:38] <Saintmare> angry spanish plush bear goes to sleep with... hmm... another one?
L1220[14:23:39] <Vexatos> is how it works
L1221[14:23:55] <Sangar> ah, i remember seeing that before
L1222[14:24:26] <asie> Vexatos: you know
L1223[14:24:29] <asie> we can livestream the chest GUI
L1224[14:24:30] <asie> Kappa
L1225[14:24:34] <Vexatos> <__>
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L1227[14:25:05] <Vexatos> Sangar, it changed since the first video
L1228[14:25:24] <payo-remote> #lua i or 0+1
L1229[14:25:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1
L1230[14:25:25] <Saintmare> where appears "stream", appears "Kappa"
L1231[14:25:35] <payo-remote> #lua i=0 return i or 0+1
L1232[14:25:35] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0
L1233[14:25:41] <payo-remote> ah ha!
L1234[14:26:42] * Saintmare do not want
L1235[14:27:28] <Saintmare> i should be quiet
L1236[14:27:34] <Saintmare> tsss
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L1238[14:28:48] <Michiyo> 2.5 hours left...
L1239[14:29:02] * Saintmare smiles to everyone
L1240[14:29:11] <Saintmare> Goodnight!
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L1242[14:31:01] <payo-remote> wow, there is much of the world i have no idea what it is like out there
L1243[14:31:15] <payo-remote> https://goo.gl/maps/hpe5GcnFN842
L1244[14:31:23] <payo-remote> that is where saintmare was pinging from
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L1246[14:34:48] <Sangar> sibiria? ^.-
L1247[14:35:38] <Sangar> or what's "Sibirskiy" mean? :X
L1248[14:35:50] <Vexatos> :>
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L1250[14:41:34] <Kodos> Why would you need to do a GUI? Make it all computer-sided
L1251[14:42:05] <gamax92> Why not both?
L1252[14:50:34] <payo-remote> gamax92: i have a problem with the paletter restore in wocchat
L1253[14:50:43] <payo-remote> palette*
L1254[14:51:01] <payo-remote> if i move the setPaletteColor loop to the start of the method, it works
L1255[14:51:16] <payo-remote> else, there is a setBackground(0,false), restore palette, and then background is wrong
L1256[14:52:24] <gamax92> ... right
L1257[14:52:31] <gamax92> that should be before
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L1259[14:53:34] <Michiyo> Kodos, Because (tm) But yeah.. it's going to be both computer controlled or via GUI
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L1261[14:54:08] <Kodos> Alrighty
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L1267[15:19:35] <gamax92> Steam is confusing ...
L1268[15:20:17] <gamax92> my internet at home is much slower and only goes up to 2MiB/s, and steam will steadily use that no problem.
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L1271[15:20:41] <gamax92> there it goes up to like ~11MiB/s, and steam is currently at 34KiB/s and dropping
L1272[15:20:41] <payo-remote> gamax92: the PR I just made for wocchat depends on https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1734
L1273[15:21:27] <payo-remote> also, my wocchat fixes do not have maxDepth->getDepth fixes
L1274[15:21:44] <gamax92> just like, it went up to 5, and then is back to dropping again.
L1275[15:23:16] <gamax92> oh cool it reached 10, and then went back down into KiB
L1276[15:23:26] <gamax92> Steam \o/
L1277[15:23:43] <g> gamax92, it's decrypting
L1278[15:23:51] <g> that's not download throttle or anything like that
L1279[15:23:58] <Michiyo> payo-remote, is tab fixed in the lua shell yet, since i can't test atm?
L1280[15:24:41] <gamax92> g: do you work at steam?
L1281[15:25:26] <g> gamax92, no, I've dealt with this before
L1282[15:25:26] <g> :P
L1283[15:25:27] <gamax92> Then shut the fuck up.
L1284[15:25:40] <g> haha, really?
L1285[15:25:41] <Michiyo> So feisty
L1286[15:25:45] <g> do you work at oracle?
L1287[15:25:50] <g> no? then shut the fuck up about java
L1288[15:26:12] <Michiyo> .-.
L1289[15:26:13] <gamax92> openjdk's code is very widely available
L1290[15:26:19] <gamax92> steam's is not so much.
L1291[15:26:23] <g> irrelevant
L1292[15:26:38] <gamax92> anyway, on windows it'll go to 10 and sit at 10
L1293[15:26:53] <Michiyo> I'm lucky to get to 2.2
L1294[15:26:55] <Michiyo> :P
L1295[15:26:56] <gamax92> and in linux it'll go to rand() and then go to 0 and stop downloading
L1296[15:27:13] <g> here's a question for you
L1297[15:27:25] <g> what generally-intensive security-based stuff generally uses a lot of rand()?
L1298[15:27:29] <g> crypto.
L1299[15:27:45] <gamax92> why is this relavent
L1300[15:28:10] <g> because you didn't seem to notice
L1301[15:28:36] <gamax92> I reiterate that in windows it goes at a steady rate
L1302[15:28:45] <gamax92> at a high speed
L1303[15:29:01] <g> Sure, but on windows, steam doesn't have to worry about system crypto libs
L1304[15:29:18] <g> and you seem like the kind of person to be using libressl or something else
L1305[15:29:22] <gamax92> I'm not.
L1306[15:29:37] <g> alright, well is all your gpg/openssl stuff up to date?
L1307[15:29:44] <gamax92> yes
L1308[15:29:58] <g> hmm
L1309[15:30:05] <g> well in that case, it might just be steam linux
L1310[15:30:08] <g> I hear it's.. not great
L1311[15:30:09] <gamax92> though that reminds me, steam probably ships with a openssl library
L1312[15:30:15] <g> hm, maybe
L1313[15:30:19] <gamax92> it's not great :P
L1314[15:30:33] <g> are you on ubuntu? I'm guessing not
L1315[15:30:36] <gamax92> I am
L1316[15:30:41] <g> hm, so not even that
L1317[15:30:41] <g> lol
L1318[15:30:52] <gamax92> you generally have to remove it's libgcc_s.so and libstdc++.so files because they're too old
L1319[15:31:09] <gamax92> and well, had to do that today, and then steam fired right up again
L1320[15:31:10] <payo-remote> Michiyo: i made a fix for tab completion. but can you give me a repro so i'm sure it is fixed for you as well?
L1321[15:31:40] <g> Maybe its openssl is sufficiently old as well then
L1322[15:32:15] <Michiyo> I was using a 5.2 CPU, opened the lua shell, and was trying to tab complete stuff like component names, methods etc but IIRC nothing would tab complete there
L1323[15:32:25] <Michiyo> bleh = compo[tab] did nothing
L1324[15:32:35] <payo-remote> ok testing that now
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L1326[15:33:08] <payo-remote> definitley works
L1327[15:33:22] <payo-remote> i'll checkout the parent commit and confirm i see the bug
L1328[15:33:43] <Michiyo> kk, this was a few days ago on the latest (at the time) 1.6 dev build
L1329[15:34:14] <Michiyo> not sure what build it was, since I'm at work, and it was in my dev workspace using 1.6.+ instead of a hard set build
L1330[15:37:50] <gamax92> aha ...
L1331[15:38:02] <gamax92> g: steam apparently just needs a dns cache
L1332[15:39:09] <payo-remote> Michiyo: ! i don't know :(
L1333[15:39:16] <g> gamax92: wu
L1334[15:39:17] <payo-remote> i just tested the last 10 commits to term.lib
L1335[15:39:17] <g> wut
L1336[15:39:19] <g> that's.. wut
L1337[15:39:27] <g> although, you don't have one?
L1338[15:39:30] <payo-remote> and they all tab complete in lua prompt
L1339[15:39:43] <gamax92> dnsmasq-base doesn't have caching
L1340[15:39:48] <gamax92> the full version (dnsmasq) does
L1341[15:39:58] <g> but no system dns cache?
L1342[15:40:05] <gamax92> what do you mean?
L1343[15:40:20] <g> I mean, you made it sound like you were missing a standard system dns request cache
L1344[15:40:25] <Michiyo> payo-remote, Odd... I know for a fact it wasn't working though hmm
L1345[15:40:40] <payo-remote> Michiyo: would you update (When you get home) and retest? when might that be?
L1346[15:40:45] <gamax92> g: I don't know, all I know is that I installed the dnsmasq package and the speed issues went away
L1347[15:40:59] <Michiyo> payo-remote, an hour and 10 minutes, give or take
L1348[15:41:05] <g> fair enough
L1349[15:41:25] <payo-remote> ok i'll come back here and see if you were able to retest
L1350[15:41:43] <payo-remote> i'll be here until then as well, but -- yeah, i'll just try to be available in case you find time to retest
L1351[15:43:20] <Michiyo> payo-remote, kk
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L1356[16:53:24] <Kodos> Anyone know if the Mailman UPgrade from ZI works in an adapter on a regular computer/server?
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L1358[16:57:05] <Michiyo> Woo almost time for hoooooome
L1359[16:57:39] <g> \o/
L1360[17:10:12] <xandaros> Why does component.setPrimary require me to specify the component type, even though it can be determined from the address?
L1361[17:10:41] <Kodos> Because reasons
L1362[17:12:33] <xandaros> It's a serious question - not an accusation of bad API design. I'm building an abstraction layer on top of it and I wonder whether I can just get the component type from the address or whether I should have the user be explicit about it
L1363[17:12:49] <gamax92> ~w component
L1364[17:12:49] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component
L1365[17:12:52] <gamax92> ~w component api
L1366[17:12:52] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:component
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L1369[17:13:59] <Mimiru> payo-remote, 1.6.0.885 is the build I have locally
L1370[17:14:03] <Mimiru> about to try to update
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L1372[17:14:13] <xandaros> gamax92: Yes, that is what I'm talking about...
L1373[17:14:25] <gamax92> xandaros: you can pass short addresses to it
L1374[17:14:38] <xandaros> Ahhh! That makes sense
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L1376[17:14:58] <xandaros> Thank you - guess I don't need it, then :D
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L1380[17:16:15] <payo-remote> Mimiru: loading with that version and testing in game now
L1381[17:17:12] <Mimiru> 889 is what gradle is fetching atm
L1382[17:17:25] <Vexatos> urgh
L1383[17:17:30] <Vexatos> heartburn <3
L1384[17:17:47] <Vexatos> gotta love that
L1385[17:17:57] <payo-remote> hmm, just dropping in the OpenOS dir from that build works to auto complete
L1386[17:20:16] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-04-02_17-20-08.png
L1387[17:20:18] <Mimiru> no tab
L1388[17:20:57] <payo-remote> that exact text works for me
L1389[17:21:07] <payo-remote> with 885
L1390[17:21:18] <payo-remote> ...
L1391[17:22:37] <Mimiru> o_O
L1392[17:22:50] <payo-remote> does tab completion work in shell?
L1393[17:24:00] <Mimiru> I'd tell you....
L1394[17:24:04] <Mimiru> but MC now refuses to start
L1395[17:24:05] <Mimiru> woooo
L1396[17:24:28] <payo-remote> what is your locale?
L1397[17:25:34] <Mimiru> waaaaait
L1398[17:25:56] <Mimiru> It's LuaJ
L1399[17:26:07] <Mimiru> I thought I had Lua 5.2 selected
L1400[17:26:24] <Mimiru> but.. no this CPU was on LuaJ for testing a string issue
L1401[17:27:09] <Mimiru> switched to 5.2 and tab complete works
L1402[17:29:11] <Mimiru> So.. sorry payo-remote
L1403[17:29:12] <payo-remote> how do you get LuaJ?
L1404[17:29:22] <Mimiru> You have to force it enabled in the config one second
L1405[17:29:28] <payo-remote> oh ok
L1406[17:29:54] <Mimiru> registerLuaJArchitecture=true
L1407[17:31:24] <payo-remote> hmmmm
L1408[17:31:27] <payo-remote> ok
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L1410[17:31:33] <payo-remote> so tab complete works in shell, not in lua prompt
L1411[17:31:36] <payo-remote> no need to be sorry, btw
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L1413[17:33:47] <payo-remote> what are some differences i should expect between luaj and just lua in oc?
L1414[17:34:04] <Mimiru> No persistence, math issues iirc
L1415[17:34:05] <payo-remote> the hint method is being called, i'm debugging why it fails for luaj
L1416[17:34:09] <Mimiru> umm... no ram limits
L1417[17:34:16] <payo-remote> uuu nice
L1418[17:34:18] <payo-remote> no ram limits! :)
L1419[17:34:22] <Mimiru> heh
L1420[17:34:42] <Mimiru> Anyway, just found out I have to run back to town
L1421[17:34:43] <Mimiru> so AFK
L1422[17:34:49] <payo-remote> the lua tab complete has a lot of regex, i wonder if that is diffferent
L1423[17:34:52] <payo-remote> o/
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L1429[17:40:26] <xandaros> got another question: Does an address ever change?
L1430[17:40:33] <g> It shouldn't
L1431[17:40:46] <xandaros> Good enough
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L1433[17:46:06] <Kodos> Spoofing card is good for cycling network addresses
L1434[17:46:13] <Kodos> Oh
L1435[17:46:14] <Kodos> Idea
L1436[17:46:16] <Kodos> Mimiru,
L1437[17:46:22] <Kodos> Secure Networking card
L1438[17:46:35] <Kodos> Basically a wired network card, with an additional method that generates a new UUID
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L1449[18:14:57] <Shuudoushi|Away> Michiyo, Mimiru: normally I would all you a cunt biscuit, but you're pretty much right >.>
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L1452[18:15:32] <Shuudoushi> ?
L1453[18:15:53] <payo-remote> Shuudoushi: you alled first
L1454[18:16:14] <Shuudoushi> call*...
L1455[18:17:31] <Shuudoushi> pretty sure my mouse just died...
L1456[18:18:10] <Shuudoushi> "he's dead Jim"...
L1457[18:20:16] <Shuudoushi> and so the hunt begins...
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L1466[18:49:50] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, did you feed it and water it?
L1467[18:49:54] <Antheus> did it have enough heat?
L1468[18:50:23] <Antheus> What did it leave you in it's will and testiment?
L1469[18:50:29] <Shuudoushi> new batteries and it lives again
L1470[18:50:42] <Antheus> You really shocked me on that one, Shuudoushi
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L1478[19:26:55] <Mimiru> oh hai Shuudoushi
L1479[19:27:07] <Shuudoushi> o/
L1480[19:27:36] <Kodos> Mimiru, did you see my suggestion? Did you want me to open an issue for it
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L1482[19:28:10] <Mimiru> yes, you mean a random UUID right, not a defined one?
L1483[19:28:22] <Shuudoushi> afk -_-
L1484[19:28:27] <Mimiru> NO!
L1485[19:28:30] <Lizzy> https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/explorer_2016-04-03_01-28-01.png there's a lot of shit in my old w7 drive
L1486[19:28:30] <Mimiru> You must stay
L1487[19:28:59] <Lizzy> okay
L1488[19:29:06] * Lizzy sits on Mimiru's lap
L1489[19:29:15] <Mimiru> \o/ this works
L1490[19:31:58] <Kodos> Mimiru, Right
L1491[19:32:07] <Kodos> Basically you can cycle UUIDs
L1492[19:32:19] <Kodos> Leave it to the user to set up the code needed to re-handshake
L1493[19:43:55] <Mimiru> Kodos, name?
L1494[19:44:08] <Kodos> Secure Networking Card
L1495[19:44:29] <Mimiru> Fair enough
L1496[19:44:30] <Mimiru> lol
L1497[19:44:40] <Mimiru> I missed that when you said it before :P
L1498[19:44:41] <Kodos> And the extra function should just be generateUUID()
L1499[19:44:56] <Kodos> Not sure it'd need any parameters
L1500[19:45:09] <Kodos> Just have it return true if it worked, false, reason if not
L1501[19:45:16] <Kodos> No idea why it wouldn't work though
L1502[19:45:48] <Kodos> Make it a T1 card, but make the recipe require a T3 Data Card
L1503[19:45:52] <Kodos> Because encryption ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1504[19:46:02] <Kodos> Or T1 Data, whatever
L1505[19:46:04] <Kodos> I'm not a cop
L1506[19:50:16] <Mimiru> Hmmm
L1507[19:51:07] <Kodos> Does the scrench have a durability when used, or is it just an infinite use tool
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L1510[20:15:47] <greaser|q> soup
L1511[20:18:31] <Mimiru> This isn't going to work
L1512[20:22:09] <Mimiru> java.lang.ClassCastException
L1513[20:22:10] <Mimiru> called it
L1514[20:22:11] <Mimiru> fmfl
L1515[20:25:29] <Mimiru> No Kodos it seems not ¬_¬
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L1517[20:34:40] <Kodos> So no card at all?
L1518[20:38:39] <Mimiru> No, cause I can't add the damn NetworkCard implementing class as a driver to the item
L1519[20:40:39] <Mimiru> I don't fucking know why but it thinks I'm trying to use a block
L1520[20:40:58] <Kodos> Gimme code
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L1550[21:12:14] <payo-remote> Mimiru: i did some tests (earlier)
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L1552[21:12:32] <payo-remote> the _ENV table and the results from next() are not the same
L1553[21:18:51] <Mimiru> Ok, the issue is li.cil.oc.api.Driver.add wants an ItemDriver, SecureNetworkCardDriver extends NetworkCard, which extends ManagedComponent, which isn't ItemDriver
L1554[21:19:51] <Mimiru> I was going to take inspiration from Computronics... but they register items totally different from me
L1555[21:27:10] <Mimiru> Hmmm
L1556[21:27:11] <Mimiru> Maybe
L1557[21:27:44] <Mimiru> fuck
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L1559[21:41:05] <greaser|q> ok, i've started working on emulating the MIPS caches, although i don't have cache isolation in place yet
L1560[21:42:20] <greaser|q> one day i'll have it accurate enough that you'll have to initialise it properly
L1561[21:42:36] <greaser|q> btw, you ARM developers have it easy
L1562[21:42:52] <greaser|q> when a MIPS is reset, there are very few things which are guaranteed to be set to what you expect
L1563[21:43:30] <greaser|q> you can expect both the cache and the TLB to be completely shot and useless and in need of reinitialisation
L1564[21:43:36] <Mimiru> IDK wtf I'm doing wrong here.. but none of the OC stuff in this item is getting called
L1565[21:43:53] <greaser|q> you also have to be aware that sometimes you're running in isolated cache mode
L1566[21:44:25] <greaser|q> which means all data reads and writes hit the cache and go nowhere near the actual memory bus
L1567[21:45:10] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1568[21:45:14] <greaser|q> fun thing though, while it does take a few seconds, you can abuse isolated cache mode and a status bit to get info on where every part of your cache is pointing to in memory
L1569[21:46:54] <greaser|q> ...it booted...ish?
L1570[21:47:02] <greaser|q> [02:48:01] [OpenComputers-Computer-3/INFO]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 1309
L1571[21:47:02] <greaser|q> [02:48:01] [OpenComputers-Computer-3/INFO]: [java.lang.Throwable$WrappedPrintStream:println:748]: at potato.chocolate.mods.ebola.arch.mips.Jipsy.mem_icache_fetch(Jipsy.java:260)
L1572[21:49:24] <greaser|q> after that hiccup, IT'S WORKING \:D/
L1573[21:49:50] <greaser|q> that was way too easy
L1574[21:49:53] <Mimiru> I'm about to shoot myself.
L1575[21:50:33] <greaser|q> and linux still boots
L1576[21:50:35] <greaser|q> ish
L1577[21:51:17] <greaser|q> unfortunately i don't have cache isolation mode working yet so linux says i have no cache
L1578[21:53:15] <greaser|q> oh yeah memo to self, there is an "uncacheable" flag in the TLB, respect this when fetching instructions
L1579[21:54:57] <Mimiru> nothing in the logs, and none of my breakpoints are hit
L1580[21:57:37] <payo-remote> Mimiru: ok user defined metamethod __pairs isn't even being called what so ever in luaj
L1581[21:58:31] <greaser|q> still looking at these docs, to be blunt the R3081E seems a bit ridiculous to try and pull off despite having some nice features, so i might go for the R3052E instead (8K icache + 2K dcache)
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L1583[22:00:35] <greaser|q> i'm aware that only the R3081 and R3081E have a built-in FPU but who needs one of those when you've got software emulation
L1584[22:00:57] <payo-remote> Mimiru: __len and __index redirect to user defined methods, but neither __ipairs nor __pairs do
L1585[22:01:02] <greaser|q> FPU in MIPS code in Java bytecode, emulators in emulators in emulators
L1586[22:01:12] <payo-remote> so, that breaks the "smart" tab completion in lua.lua
L1587[22:02:11] <payo-remote> tbh, i'm surprised the bloody thing can boot
L1588[22:02:20] <Mimiru> lol..
L1589[22:03:22] <payo-remote> should we care about LuaJ?
L1590[22:03:37] <payo-remote> now that i know it is not an OpenOS issue, i'm less interested in fixing it
L1591[22:05:11] <greaser|q> well if i get my shit together, apparently sfhndkjkfhjlgar said that for non-native lua he'd just use ocmips or something when it's ready
L1592[22:05:18] <greaser|q> i could possibly have a "fuck luaj" mode
L1593[22:05:32] <greaser|q> which just loads the lua interpreter into memory directly
L1594[22:05:55] <greaser|q> pretty much as a ROM or something like that
L1595[22:06:35] <greaser|q> just realised i should totally do a parody of the playstation boot screen
L1596[22:06:44] <greaser|q> it would be so, so right
L1597[22:11:46] <Mimiru> ffs at this point I'd be willing to ask Vex for a tip
L1598[22:12:46] <Kodos> By the power of sarcasm and ego, I summon thee, Vexatos
L1599[22:13:26] <Mimiru> And I just checked, no where in Computronics does createEnvironment get called by their code...
L1600[22:14:24] <Mimiru> it's defined in a bunch of places... but never called, I assumed OC is supposed to do that
L1601[22:14:52] <payo-remote> Mimiru: so should i care about LuaJ?
L1602[22:15:00] <payo-remote> should i create an issue on github
L1603[22:15:31] * Mimiru shrugs
L1604[22:15:34] <greaser|q> maybe it should be a rule: every time LuaJ breaks, the issue title should be "LuaJ is fucked"
L1605[22:15:44] <payo-remote> this isn't the first time?
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L1607[22:25:03] <Mimiru> https://github.com/PC-Logix/OpenSecurity/commit/29f8ba424f3fcf68e930657dad713f8d7c98f955
L1608[22:25:10] <Mimiru> IDK, and IDC anymore tonight
L1609[22:25:15] <Mimiru> I was supposed to be watching Star Wars ¬_¬
L1610[22:25:21] <Mimiru> it's now 10:25
L1611[22:26:15] <payo-remote> that reminds me, so glad my new job doesn't put { on the same line
L1612[22:26:20] <payo-remote> \o/
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L1615[22:28:33] <ThylaComputer> Hello all!
L1616[22:29:10] <greaser|q> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu0R96OZy6w
L1617[22:29:11] <MichiBot> THX Simpson in [HQ] | length: 35s | Likes: 3646 Dislikes: 49 Views: 878621 | by xjm40
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L1622[22:45:55] <Saintmare> Hi
L1623[22:46:20] <Saintmare> Bash coming to Windows
L1624[22:46:45] <payo-remote> what would be even better is windows deprecating \ in paths
L1625[22:48:27] <greaser|q> seconded
L1626[22:49:26] <payo-remote> i'd love to hear Satya Nadella (ceo) just come to a press release, everyone expecting some big thing, some new gadget - or whatever crap
L1627[22:50:25] <payo-remote> and at the mics, "Microsoft would like to submit a formal apology to the world. We were wrong, and we are sorry. A backslash is a stupid directory delimiter."
L1628[22:50:52] <Saintmare> Yahoo falls
L1629[22:52:19] <Saintmare> Google... Nothing happens
L1630[22:52:51] <Saintmare> Boring news
L1631[22:52:54] <Saintmare> Hmmm
L1632[22:53:14] <Saintmare> What about a oc-program
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L1634[22:54:40] <Saintmare> Which will show news from the oc site
L1635[22:55:53] <Saintmare> But not directly
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L1637[22:56:38] <Saintmare> As INN
L1638[22:56:42] <Saintmare> Yes
L1639[22:56:51] <Saintmare> INN might be
L1640[22:57:05] <payo-remote> Saintmare: you don't make a lot of sense
L1641[22:57:05] <Saintmare> Or RSS
L1642[22:57:36] <Saintmare> ; - ;
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L1644[23:03:04] <gamax92> payo-remote: what about a program that calculates the angle to hit a target
L1645[23:03:13] <gamax92> but it also has to calculate the bouncing parameters
L1646[23:03:21] <gamax92> and take into account the terrain
L1647[23:03:24] <gamax92> also cake
L1648[23:03:38] <payo-remote> haha, definitely cake
L1649[23:04:01] <payo-remote> btw, working with the wocchat stuff today, i found 3, that's THREE, bugs in my term lib
L1650[23:04:04] <payo-remote> o_O
L1651[23:04:08] <gamax92> D:
L1652[23:04:11] <gamax92> :D
L1653[23:04:16] <payo-remote> it's good and bad
L1654[23:04:19] <payo-remote> i like fixing stuff
L1655[23:04:26] <gamax92> I like food
L1656[23:04:30] <payo-remote> but bad...i thought it was better than this
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L1658[23:05:38] <payo-remote> 1. horizontal wrap sets blank spaces outside floating window, 2. horizontal delete removes chars outside floating window, 3. vertical delete wrapping up a level does not remove trailing char (big regression this one)
L1659[23:05:42] <payo-remote> anywho, working on that amt
L1660[23:05:44] <payo-remote> atm*
L1661[23:05:46] <payo-remote> and, no cake
L1662[23:05:48] <payo-remote> :(
L1663[23:08:36] <payo-remote> btw, ocemu log comes in super handy when working with term bugs
L1664[23:11:48] <greaser|q> ok, i'm kinda scared right now
L1665[23:11:50] <payo-remote> woot, #2 fixed
L1666[23:11:58] <greaser|q> i have cache isolation somewhat implemented, and am about to find out if it actually works
L1667[23:12:07] <payo-remote> greaser|q: hehe, i know the feeling
L1668[23:13:37] <greaser|q> linux absolutely shat itself
L1669[23:13:58] <payo-remote> and i find a new third bug
L1670[23:13:59] <payo-remote> glorious
L1671[23:14:05] <payo-remote> floating windows are tricky :)
L1672[23:14:22] <greaser|q> BUT IT FIGURED OUT THE CACHE SIZE, FUCK YES \:D/
L1673[23:15:06] <payo-remote> greaser|q: what is cache "isolation" ?
L1674[23:15:20] <greaser|q> payo-remote: it's how mips lets you invalidate and inspect the cache ;)
L1675[23:16:32] <greaser|q> aha, i think i found the issue, the instruction cache fetch wasn't detecting if it was valid, it was just checking if the addresses matched
L1676[23:16:37] <greaser|q> https://imgur.com/a/ayyRs
L1677[23:32:42] <greaser|q> ah whoops turns out i was invalidating the wrong data-cache tag since the instruction-cache has wider cache lines
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L1679[23:34:33] <greaser|q> the data cache is kinda weird in the MIPS
L1680[23:34:56] <greaser|q> it's a write-through cache, so when you write to memory, it performs the write as it stores into the cache
L1681[23:35:27] <greaser|q> however, if you do a partial write (that is, don't write all 4 bytes), and you've already done a partial write to that line, the line gets invalidated or something like that
L1682[23:35:54] <greaser|q> erm, i did not word that in any sensible manner
L1683[23:37:03] <greaser|q> the cache behaviour IS a bit weird when it comes to partial writes though, IIRC there's a penalty somewhere
L1684[23:38:13] <greaser|q> ah right, i have completely misinterpreted how the cache actually works
L1685[23:38:28] <greaser|q> or at least how IDT do it
L1686[23:39:00] <greaser|q> if it's in the cache, the partial write gets merged in. if it's not in the cache, it completely bypasses the cache.
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L1690[23:53:33] <payo-remote> greaser|q: i'm a smart guy. i know a lot about programming and I have a good job because of that. but i honestly think the quantity of new information you could teach me in the technical space is greater than all of the current amount of knowledge i have
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L1692[23:54:21] <greaser|q> payo-remote: if i tell you half of it, and all that stuff is stuff you don't know, that would fix it ;)
L1693[23:54:36] <payo-remote> haha, very clever
L1694[23:54:38] <payo-remote> hahaha
L1695[23:54:45] <payo-remote> ok let's do that
L1696[23:54:47] <payo-remote> haha
L1697[23:54:56] <greaser|q> but basically i'm covering a field you've probably not covered... honestly, if you were to start blabbering on about databases i'd be in the dark
L1698[23:55:13] <greaser|q> i mean i know my SELECTs and my bobby tables but that's it
L1699[23:55:20] <payo-remote> databases for the sake of an example, sure, but specifically, no -- i dont do databases
L1700[23:55:35] <greaser|q> oh yeah, and you read stuff from and write stuff to databases
L1701[23:55:47] <greaser|q> and they're usually in lots of different places at once
L1702[23:55:57] <payo-remote> i took a class in college about cpus and ram
L1703[23:56:03] <payo-remote> i kept the book because i loved it so much
L1704[23:56:08] <greaser|q> which CPUs did you cover?
L1705[23:56:13] <payo-remote> but i've never studied it nor used that knowledge since
L1706[23:56:26] <greaser|q> they usually do MIPS because it's one of the simplest CPUs
L1707[23:56:31] <payo-remote> risk and 8086..was it?
L1708[23:56:32] <greaser|q> although it does do some fucking weird things
L1709[23:56:48] <payo-remote> it's been like 12 or more years
L1710[23:56:53] <greaser|q> ah, 8086... did you ever cover protected mode?
L1711[23:56:59] <payo-remote> yes
L1712[23:57:08] <greaser|q> it's such a shit of a thing to get your first GDT working
L1713[23:57:22] <greaser|q> out of curiosity did you also cover paging?
L1714[23:57:35] <payo-remote> we wrote a couple processor instruction "stacks" <-- is that what they're called
L1715[23:57:43] <greaser|q> i'm not sure
L1716[23:57:46] <payo-remote> the things that actually make adds work and such
L1717[23:58:09] <greaser|q> i mean when you say stacks i'm either thinking of "enterprise software stack" or "PUSH and POP"
L1718[23:58:10] <payo-remote> it's the level that the cpu manufacturers build into the paths
L1719[23:58:25] <payo-remote> no not enterprise - much lower
L1720[23:58:39] <greaser|q> example?
L1721[23:58:48] <payo-remote> there is a set of instructions the cpu does to implement an add, or store
L1722[23:59:01] <payo-remote> i very bad with the assembly instructions these days, i forget which there are
L1723[23:59:12] <payo-remote> but there are steps to fill the correct registers or something
L1724[23:59:19] <payo-remote> and then which gates to push them through
L1725[23:59:21] <greaser|q> microcode?
L1726[23:59:25] <payo-remote> perhaps :)
L1727[23:59:49] <greaser|q> best thing about RISC architectures is your instructions are generally never microcoded
L1728[23:59:59] <greaser|q> actually no that's not the best thing but it is a good thing in a way
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