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L5[00:06:47] <payo_remote> Shuudoushi: what
is the purpose of the autorun?
L6[00:06:58] <snowden89> to auto run
files
L7[00:07:00] <snowden89> ?
L8[00:07:07] <Shuudoushi> so users can have
their own autorun programs
L9[00:07:08] <snowden89> on login?
L10[00:07:11] <Shuudoushi> yes
L11[00:07:28] <payo_remote> ok - .shrc
should do that now
L12[00:07:30] <Shuudoushi> it looks for
autorun files in the home dir of the user
L13[00:07:33] <payo_remote> are you ok with
just that?
L14[00:07:39] <Shuudoushi> yeah
L15[00:07:42] <payo_remote> excellent
L16[00:07:55] <Shuudoushi> it's a lot nicer
way of doing it anyway :P
L17[00:07:57] <payo_remote> ok, let's rm
.autorun then
L18[00:08:03] <Shuudoushi> kk
L19[00:08:08] <payo_remote> progress!
L20[00:08:28] <payo_remote> also, my server
the hosts `payonel` has died again
L21[00:08:30] <payo_remote> stupid
machine
L22[00:08:43] <Shuudoushi> XD
L23[00:08:57] <payo_remote> it IS a crap
laptop on a friend crap internet just sitting on a counter
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L25[00:09:04] <payo_remote> a few hundred
miles away
L26[00:09:10] <payo_remote> npe|office:
o/
L27[00:09:13] <Shuudoushi> lmao
L28[00:10:19] <Shuudoushi> should I keep
autorun on the blacklist? (autoruns in the root of the drive that
is)
L29[00:10:36] <payo_remote> so blacklist
stops users from being able to remove it?
L30[00:10:56] <Shuudoushi> or edit it
L31[00:11:01] <payo_remote> heh,
interesting
L32[00:11:05] <Shuudoushi> without elevated
perms at least
L33[00:11:10] <payo_remote> sure -
L34[00:11:15] <payo_remote> imo, that's
temporary anyways
L35[00:11:21] <payo_remote> but sure
L36[00:11:23] <Shuudoushi> agreed
L37[00:11:34] <payo_remote> we need a perms
driver
L38[00:11:40] <Shuudoushi> I would love to
switch to a 'isOwner' thing
L39[00:12:03] <Shuudoushi> but I can't
figure out how to do that in a clean manner...
L40[00:13:02] <payo_remote> let's not worry
about that now
L41[00:13:10] <payo_remote> i want things
to work as well as they should at the momeny
L42[00:13:12] <payo_remote> t*
L43[00:13:25] <Shuudoushi> agreed
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L45[00:13:51] <Shuudoushi> right, pushing
those changes to dev unless you can think of something else
L46[00:14:03] <payo_remote> i'm still
working through things
L47[00:14:07] <payo_remote> feel free to
push
L49[00:14:28] <payo_remote> :)
L50[00:14:31] <payo_remote> i didn't end up
using it
L51[00:14:44] <payo_remote> i got visual
studio to remote build/execute/debug my linux project
L52[00:14:51] <Shuudoushi> nice
L53[00:15:11] <payo_remote> but man, your
atom interface is sexy as hell
L54[00:15:20] <payo_remote> it's very
tempting to test it out
L55[00:15:30] <Shuudoushi> VS kinda blinds
me when I try to use it... so I don't like it much >.>
L56[00:15:35] <payo_remote> but i have a
full schedule for a while
L57[00:15:46] <Shuudoushi> same tbh
L58[00:15:47] <payo_remote> ive been using
it for almost 20 years
L59[00:15:54] <Shuudoushi> I have a
headgasket to replace on my car...
L60[00:15:55] <payo_remote> so it's just
very much what i'm used to
L61[00:16:12] <Shuudoushi> it's just all
the white that blinds me lol
L62[00:16:19] <payo_remote> oh gosh
no!
L63[00:16:32] <payo_remote> i've not used a
white interface for at least 15 years :)
L64[00:16:36] <Shuudoushi> I sit in a dark
room all the time, so I made all my windows and the like
black
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L66[00:16:59] <payo_remote> back before vs
even had decent theme support, we found ways to hack the dlls and
force colors
L67[00:17:22] <payo_remote> ive always been
a white-on-black dev
L68[00:17:37] <Shuudoushi> lol
L69[00:18:31] <Shuudoushi> my 'compact'
update script is still broken as hell for some reason as well...
i'm about to say fuck it and leave on the floor for a bit
L71[00:22:39] <Shuudoushi> that does look
nice
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L73[00:23:40] <payo_remote> Shuudoushi: so
--- that autorun file could be problematic for what we need to
do
L74[00:23:45] <payo_remote> can you remove
it in an update?
L75[00:23:57] <payo_remote> which is
unfortunate
L76[00:24:02] <payo_remote> hopefully ppl
aren't using it....
L77[00:24:10] <Shuudoushi> it can be
removed from updating yes
L78[00:24:23] <Shuudoushi> it's not meant
to be messed with
L79[00:24:28] <payo_remote> btw, sngr and i
came to an agreement about cursor blink
L80[00:24:43] <payo_remote> good news for
you :) i'll be able to give setCursorBlink some meaning
L81[00:24:52] <Shuudoushi> I read a bit,
but it was so far spaced apart that I lost track a bit lol
L82[00:24:57] <Shuudoushi> WOOT!
L83[00:26:01] <Shuudoushi> btw, for if you
haven't noticed yet, I nuked that line from the term.read
function...
L84[00:26:16] <Shuudoushi> I forgot to re
add it back after testing >..
L85[00:26:19] <Shuudoushi> >.>*
L86[00:26:32] <payo_remote> yeah that's
fine
L87[00:26:39] <payo_remote> i have to add
some stuff to replace it
L88[00:26:46] <payo_remote> but it'll work
as you want in the end
L89[00:26:57] <Shuudoushi> yay \o/
L90[00:27:05] <payo_remote> i'll have a PR
for openos tomorrow
L91[00:27:07] <Shuudoushi> setCursorBliknk
will do something!
L92[00:27:12] <payo_remote> and when sngr
takes that, you can merge again
L93[00:27:17] <payo_remote> it'll be
small
L94[00:27:21] <payo_remote> yeah
L95[00:27:31] <payo_remote> we'll also
support term.read({blink=false})
L96[00:27:38] <payo_remote> for one-off
type calls
L97[00:27:44] <Shuudoushi> well, it did
something before... pissed me off a little >.>
L98[00:27:48] <payo_remote> haha
L99[00:27:51] <payo_remote> sorry, we'll
lose that feature
L100[00:27:56] <Shuudoushi> that would be
perfect for my needs :P
L101[00:28:29] <Shuudoushi>
term.read({pwchar="", blink=false})
L102[00:28:34] <payo_remote> yes
L103[00:28:41] <Shuudoushi> pretty much
all I need right there lol
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L105[00:32:32] <Shuudoushi> I'm not too
sure if overriding /home/.shrc and /etc/profile every time the
system is updated it such a great idea anymore...
L106[00:32:43] <payo_remote> yeah that's
not
L107[00:33:05] <Shuudoushi> though I
guess, profile at least isn't really something a user is supposed
to be fucking with, but shrc is
L108[00:33:12] <payo_remote> updating is a
complicating thing, tbh
L109[00:33:21] <payo_remote>
complicated*
L110[00:33:28] <Shuudoushi> agreed
L111[00:33:31] <payo_remote> well in real
life, i can mess with /etc/profile all i want
L112[00:33:37] <payo_remote> and updates
will let me merge or pick
L113[00:33:40] <payo_remote> :)
L114[00:33:45] <Shuudoushi> hmmm
L115[00:33:57] <payo_remote> it gets
complex fast
L116[00:34:20] <Shuudoushi> I guess I need
to figure out how to merge changes instead of just flat out
overriding for somethings
L117[00:34:48] <Shuudoushi> though, for
programs and libs, I'll keep the overwrite thing
L118[00:35:12] <Shuudoushi> oh, there's
any idea
L119[00:35:14] <payo_remote> MAYBE have a
'create' if missing option
L120[00:35:22] <payo_remote> for some
files, like /etc/profile
L121[00:35:25] <payo_remote> maybe
L122[00:35:54] <Shuudoushi> if the date
last modified isn't the same as the last update, then it gets
skipped, somehow >.>
L123[00:36:00] <payo_remote> U
/lib/term.lua
L124[00:36:00] <payo_remote> U
/lib/sh.lua
L125[00:36:00] <payo_remote> C
/etc/profile
L126[00:36:00] <payo_remote> R
/.autorun.lua
L127[00:36:09] <payo_remote> timestamps
can't be trusted
L128[00:36:13] <payo_remote> sorry
L129[00:36:17] <Shuudoushi> yeah...
L130[00:36:34] <payo_remote> you'd need a
checksum db
L131[00:36:38] <payo_remote> and then
recheck each file
L132[00:36:41] <payo_remote> and update if
not modified
L133[00:36:47] <payo_remote> or
L134[00:36:50] <Shuudoushi> 'if not path
then creat end'
L135[00:36:53] <payo_remote> yeah...
L136[00:37:02] <payo_remote> again,
complex fast
L137[00:37:06] <payo_remote> i'll leave
you alone with your misery
L138[00:37:10] <Shuudoushi> lol
L139[00:37:18] <Shuudoushi> that's not
that bad really
L140[00:37:50] <Shuudoushi> I can just add
another dat checker
L141[00:37:59] <Shuudoushi> like my dir
checker
L142[00:38:24] <Shuudoushi> lines 103-125
of /sbin/update.lua
L143[00:40:26] <Shuudoushi> I'm still
temped to go back to a 'cloud based' updater...
L144[00:40:51] <Shuudoushi> update really
just pulls a file from github and runs that to really do the
updates
L145[00:41:09] <Shuudoushi> but that had
it's own headaches, and a lot of em...
L146[00:43:45] <Shuudoushi> payo_remote:
would you call stuff like profile and shrc system files, or
what?
L147[00:44:11] <payo_remote> yes, the
shell does that when it loads interactive mode
L148[00:44:45] <payo_remote> /bin/sh calls
/etc/profile, /etc/profile calls ~/.shr
L149[00:44:48] <payo_remote> ~/.shrc
L151[00:47:38] <Shuudoushi> I also need to
make sf.dat rq
L152[00:48:02] <payo_remote> found the bug
--
L153[00:48:07] <payo_remote> forgot about
your login in /etc/profile
L154[00:48:19] <payo_remote> AND
prompt
L155[00:48:20] <payo_remote> ok
L156[00:48:20] <Shuudoushi> lol...
L157[00:48:22] <payo_remote> getting
somewhere
L158[00:49:36] <Axlegear> I'm trying to
connect with an OpenComputer IRC client... stupid question: What is
the server address and port for this IRC? XD
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L160[00:49:45] <Kodos> irc.esper.net
L161[00:49:47] <Kodos> Port 6667
L162[00:51:24] <payo_remote> Shuudoushi:
hint os.exit(number) for exiting a process from any method and
setting exit code to *number*
L163[00:51:37] *
payo_remote fixed /sbin/shutdown.lua usage
L164[00:52:27] <Shuudoushi> payo_remote:
how much of a pain in the rear would it be to make profile look in
the current users home dir (/home/$USER) for a shrc and fall back
to the one in just /home if not found?
L165[00:52:41] <Shuudoushi> payo_remote:
ty >.>
L166[00:53:15] <payo_remote> well the
if-not-found part is bash scripting level that we dont have
atm
L167[00:53:21] <payo_remote> but -
L168[00:53:29] <payo_remote> we could just
run /home/.shrc AND $HOME?.shrc
L169[00:53:32] <payo_remote>
$HOME/.shrc
L170[00:53:42] <payo_remote> in that
order, to give users an override
L171[00:54:19] <Shuudoushi> that would
work
L172[00:54:29] <payo_remote> btw,
$HOME/.shrc IS whatt profile is current running
L173[00:54:31] <payo_remote> so ----
L174[00:54:39] <payo_remote> if you set
HOME to /home/$USER
L175[00:54:46] <payo_remote> then it is
already NOT running /home/.shrc
L176[00:55:07] <payo_remote> and thus,
alias l is not set
L177[00:55:10] <Shuudoushi> and I can make
it copy the one from the home dir to new user home dirs
L178[00:55:11] <payo_remote> nor .. nor
df
L179[00:55:36] <Shuudoushi> oh
yeah...
L180[00:55:38] <payo_remote> ah, nor is
grep aliased for grep --color
L181[00:56:13] <payo_remote> ok i have
things working
L182[00:56:15] <Shuudoushi> right, update
should do voodoo now
L183[00:56:20] <payo_remote> at least, the
things i wanted to fix
L184[00:56:29] <payo_remote> you are
setting PS1 in login
L185[00:56:36] <Shuudoushi> yes
L186[00:56:37] <payo_remote> i would move
that to profile or .shrc
L187[00:56:40] <payo_remote> because
L188[00:56:44] <payo_remote> login calls
the shell
L189[00:56:48] <payo_remote> and shell
loads profile
L190[00:56:54] <payo_remote> (in my local
version)
L191[00:56:57] <payo_remote> (which is
what i recommend)
L192[00:57:01] <Shuudoushi> and my brain
just exploded...
L193[00:57:03] <payo_remote> haha
L194[00:57:07] <payo_remote> let me share
my code
L195[00:57:14] <Shuudoushi> it's fucking
hot here for some reason...
L196[00:57:15] <payo_remote> and you can
think from there
L197[00:57:25] *
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L199[01:01:50] <Shuudoushi> my computer
normally runs at 38C on the CPU
L201[01:05:44] <Shuudoushi> that's a
pretty good fuck up on my part...
L202[01:08:17] <Shuudoushi> too fucking
hot to think straight...
L203[01:10:41] <payo_remote> no a/c?
L204[01:14:52] <payo_remote> Shuudoushi:
PR
L205[01:15:44] <payo_remote> um weird
wait
L206[01:15:46] <payo_remote> oh
L207[01:15:51] <payo_remote> i PR'd that
to your master ... ?
L208[01:16:02] <payo_remote> err,
release!? haha, derp
L209[01:16:03] <payo_remote> sec
L210[01:17:42] <payo_remote> aaah much
better
L211[01:20:25] <payo_remote> ok i have
openos work to do
L212[01:20:27] <Axlegear> I wonder if it'd
be possible to play Dig Dug on these..
L213[01:20:29] <payo_remote> take the PR
if you like it
L214[01:20:36] <payo_remote> Axlegear:
o/
L215[01:20:55] <Axlegear> \o
L216[01:20:56] <Shuudoushi> just got throw
making me a snack lol
L217[01:21:23] <gamax92> aloha
snackbar
L218[01:21:24] <Shuudoushi> Axlegear:
these computers can handle up to 16-bit games with careful
coding
L219[01:21:31] <Shuudoushi> so
likely
L220[01:21:48] <Shuudoushi>
s/throw/through
L221[01:21:48] <MichiBot>
<Shuudoushi> just got through making me a snack lol
L222[01:21:50] <Axlegear> *Tries to port
Wolfenstein 3d*
L223[01:21:52] <snowden89> tetris!
L224[01:22:01] <Axlegear> I can't find
tetris. XD
L225[01:22:01] <gamax92> what an arbitrary
restriction you've put there Shuudoushi
L226[01:22:17] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: it's
the most I've seen thus far
L227[01:22:22] <snowden89> lol put that on
the details
L228[01:22:29] <snowden89> can only handle
16bit with careful coding
L229[01:22:35] <snowden89> see how many
people challange that
L230[01:22:36] <Shuudoushi> XD
L231[01:22:56] <snowden89> with the way
the internet is you should have tons of random games that run in
it
L232[01:23:08] <snowden89> and free
publicity
L233[01:23:09] <gamax92> the hint here was
that saying it can only do 16bit means literally nothing
L234[01:23:17] <gamax92> define
16bit?
L235[01:23:32] <gamax92> two bytes? so all
oc can do is two bytes?
L236[01:23:44] <payo_remote> Shuudoushi:
one more tiny change in login, now i'm going to openos work
L237[01:23:45] <snowden89> and memes like
we heard you like games so we made games you coud play in your
game
L238[01:23:50] <payo_remote> Shuudoushi:
let me know if you have questions
L239[01:23:58] <payo_remote> but i wont
have time for secureos work for a day or two
L240[01:24:03] <Shuudoushi> payo_remote:
kk, tyvm!
L241[01:29:57] <payo_remote> ok gamax92!
help me out -- how can i emulate palettes in ocemu, via the
ocemu.cfg?
L242[01:30:05] <payo_remote> let's do
this!!
L243[01:30:11] *
payo_remote gets psyched for fixing crap
L244[01:31:08] <Shuudoushi> lol
L245[01:31:32] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: you
going to take that? he just called your shit crap!
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L247[01:31:41] <payo_remote> actually
no
L248[01:31:48] <payo_remote> calling MY
crap crap
L249[01:31:54] <Shuudoushi> XD
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L253[01:34:20] <Shuudoushi> I just thought
of a simple way to keep people from running login without using
logout and the like
L254[01:34:55] <Shuudoushi> if
os.getenv("USER") ~= nill the os.exit(1) end
L255[01:35:27] <Shuudoushi> and just have
logout set the other envs to nil
L256[01:36:01] <Axlegear> With a Tier1
battery about how far can a drone fly if it just
straight-lines?
L257[01:36:18] <Shuudoushi> 42
L258[01:36:26] <Shuudoushi> no idea
tbh
L259[01:36:52] <Axlegear> It has 10,000
energy in the battery, i'm just not sure how much power movement
uses. Eh, i'll find out in vitro
L260[01:37:14] <payo_remote> ha
L261[01:37:18] <payo_remote> +1
Shuudoushi
L262[01:37:30] <Shuudoushi> lol
L265[01:53:58] <Shuudoushi> I think I'm
going to need to go with something other than ~= nil...
L266[01:56:30] <Antheus> ~w os
L269[01:59:33] <payo_remote> yep
L270[01:59:39] <payo_remote> that's
because /etc/profile is run after login.lua
L271[01:59:48] <payo_remote> in fact,
login.lua starts the shell
L272[01:59:54] <payo_remote> which calls
the profile
L273[02:00:32] <Shuudoushi> i.e. I forgot
to dick with something
L274[02:00:55] <payo_remote> the fix needs
to be PS1 is set from profile
L275[02:00:59] <payo_remote> um
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L277[02:01:02] <Shuudoushi> yep, line 22
of profile...
L278[02:01:06] <AxleGearOC> Test
L279[02:01:25] <AxleGearOC> And yay! IRC
confirmed.
L280[02:01:34] <Axlegear> logout
L281[02:01:35] <payo_remote> hi
AxleGear!
L282[02:01:37] <payo_remote> derp
L283[02:01:47] <AxleGearOC> Much derp for
me today.
L284[02:02:21] <AxleGearOC> Okay so, bit
by bit my OpenComputer is becoming useful.
L285[02:02:41] <snowden89> it needed irc
to be useful>?
L286[02:02:48] <snowden89> or you setting
triggers
L287[02:02:57] <snowden89> so you can
!farm
L288[02:03:08] <snowden89> and it clears
all the crops
L289[02:03:21] <snowden89> that have
loaded in your chunkloaded OC farm
L290[02:03:31] <AxleGearOC> Well it's one
step to being able to minecraft remotely from work without running
minecraft
L291[02:03:41] <snowden89> woo!
L292[02:03:48] <snowden89> minecraft
without swinging a single pick
L293[02:04:17] <Shuudoushi> payo_remote:
will `set PS1='$USER@$USER# ' or '$USER@$HOSTNAME# '`? (if I make
hostname that is)
L294[02:04:39] <payo_remote> that's
probably the best option at this pointt
L295[02:04:50] <payo_remote> as we lack
really good bash power like ``, $(), or scripting
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L297[02:05:15] <payo_remote> i'd say set
PS1="$USER@$HOSTNAME#:"
L298[02:05:18] <payo_remote> or something
like that
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L300[02:05:26] <payo_remote> there is no
'or' though
L301[02:05:35] <Shuudoushi> ah...
L302[02:05:47] <Shuudoushi> whathappens if
there is no hostname set though?
L303[02:05:48] <payo_remote> you'll have
to do that logic in login
L304[02:06:15] <payo_remote> so, maybe
something like (in login) os.setenv("PS1HOST", username
or hostname)
L305[02:06:24] <payo_remote> err hostname
or username
L306[02:06:26] <payo_remote> but
yeah
L307[02:06:34] <payo_remote> then use
$PS1HOST in profile
L308[02:06:46] <Shuudoushi> ok
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L310[02:07:00] <payo_remote> Shuudoushi:
to answer your first question (though out of context now) it
returns nil
L311[02:07:04] <payo_remote>
os.getenv("asdfasdfasdfasd") => nil
L312[02:07:11] <Shuudoushi> ah
L313[02:07:33] <payo_remote> and
$fasdfasdf resolves to ""
L315[02:08:38] <Shuudoushi> that is in
login btw
L316[02:09:01] <payo_remote> sure,
yeah
L317[02:09:06] <payo_remote> btw --
L318[02:09:12] <payo_remote> well
L319[02:09:13] <payo_remote> yeah
L320[02:09:18] <payo_remote> :)
L321[02:09:33] <Shuudoushi> close enough
eh
L322[02:09:35] <payo_remote> users can
totally break things if they make their hostnames 1000s of chars
long
L323[02:09:43] <payo_remote> i tried that
once
L324[02:09:49] <Shuudoushi> this is
true...
L325[02:09:49] <payo_remote> couldn't boot
anything
L326[02:09:59] <payo_remote> i had to edit
the filesystem out of process
L327[02:10:28] <Shuudoushi> I'll sub it
later to be a max of like, 0 chars I think is what unix limits it
to?
L328[02:10:39] <Shuudoushi> 10*
L329[02:10:49] <Shuudoushi> my one key is
back to dieing it seems...
L330[02:11:11] <payo_remote> i don't
know
L331[02:11:58] <Shuudoushi> arbitrary
number is going to be arbitrary then
L332[02:13:01] <payo_remote> btw
L333[02:13:06] <payo_remote> did you
notice the term wrap vertically now?!
L334[02:13:13] <payo_remote> yeah, i'm
awesome sauce
L335[02:13:15] <Shuudoushi> O.O
L336[02:13:20] <payo_remote> that was very
crazy to do
L337[02:13:32] <Shuudoushi> XD
L338[02:13:42] <payo_remote> AND -- the
whole framework that makes that work was built for plugging in
different scrolling drivers
L339[02:14:05] <payo_remote> big words,
basically just saying, it can change behavior with no code copy
pasta
L340[02:14:21] <Shuudoushi> so we may one
day have pg up/down support in the term?
L341[02:14:25] <payo_remote> also, unicode
support now is freaking hard core
L342[02:14:38] <payo_remote>
absolutely
L343[02:14:47] <payo_remote> that gets
into issues with buffering
L344[02:14:48] <payo_remote> but yes
L345[02:15:09] <Shuudoushi> lol, I noticed
how the highlighted char no longer disappears white the cursor is
blinking
L346[02:15:16] <Shuudoushi> while*
L347[02:15:24] <payo_remote> :)
L348[02:15:24] <Shuudoushi> seems I need
sleep...
L349[02:15:26] <payo_remote> i'm
crafty
L350[02:15:51] <payo_remote> tbh ---
L351[02:16:03] <Shuudoushi> only 0200, and
I already feel like I'm about to just pass right the fuck
out...
L352[02:16:04] <payo_remote> the shell
improvements in OpenOS 1.6 are a big deal
L353[02:17:01] <Shuudoushi> I've been
noticing a lot of stuff I was wanting ot try to add as I've used it
over the past few days lol (and please don't ask my sleep deprived
brain to give examples..)
L354[02:17:40] <Shuudoushi> right! sleep
before I go full retard and never recover!
L355[02:18:19] <Shuudoushi> night, and
thanks again for the help with SOS, when/if I find more broken
stuff, I'll be sure to poke you with a sharp stick :P
L356[02:18:25] <payo_remote> :)
L357[02:18:30] <payo_remote> goodnight,
sir
L358[02:18:35] <Shuudoushi> o/
L359[02:19:20] <Shuudoushi> and please
don't sir me... makes me feel a lot older than I am lol
L360[02:19:54] <payo_remote> we're all
old
L361[02:20:03] <Shuudoushi> XD
L362[02:20:36] ***
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L367[02:33:48] <Kodos> MCHeli is so damn
fun
L368[02:35:41] <Antheus> lol
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L370[02:38:08] <ThylaComputer> I wonder
what the speed of these CPUs are in FLOPS
L371[02:39:04] <Kodos> Flip FLOPS
L372[02:39:06] <ping> ThylaComputer, FLOPS
is not an accurate representation of the sped of OC computers
L373[02:39:26] <ping> perhaps million lua
bytecode instructions per second?
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L375[02:39:38] <ThylaComputer>
MLBIPS!
L377[02:40:40] <Kodos> Million
instructions per second
L378[02:41:12] <ping> IPC anyone? xD
L379[02:41:28] <ping>
ipc*baseclock*multiplier
L380[02:41:43] <ping> OC doesnt need to be
more complicated lol
L381[02:42:03] *
Lizzy groans
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L383[02:44:33] <ThylaComputer> *Macerates
chalcopyrite*
L384[02:49:26] *
ping macerates ThylaComputer
L385[02:52:42] <ThylaComputer> *Yields two
MOS 6502s*
L386[02:53:52] <ThylaComputer> Wish I knew
how to program LUA better... and had more time to do so.
L387[02:53:52] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not
LUA. Name, not an acronym
L388[02:54:03] *
ThylaComputer commits seppuku.
L389[02:54:19] *
Temia searches Thyla's remains for a SID chip.
L390[02:55:04] *
ThylaComputer only has a COSMAC 1802
L391[02:55:47] *
Temia aws.
L392[02:58:59] <payo_remote> Sangar: term
blink is awesome sauce now
L393[02:59:20] <payo_remote> e.g.
term.pull(10, "key_down") will wait 10 seconds for a
key_down event (term.pull is very much like event.pull)
L394[02:59:25] <payo_remote> BUT IT BLINKS
whilst waiting
L395[02:59:35] <payo_remote> and,
term.read({blink=false}) is a one-off no-blink read
L396[02:59:39] <payo_remote> it's
brilliant
L397[02:59:55] <payo_remote> and, it uses
a solid cursor when not blinking, instead of no cursor
L398[03:00:02] <payo_remote> anywho, good
day of coding
L399[03:00:07] <payo_remote> cheers
all
L400[03:00:09] *
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L402[03:00:11] <ThylaComputer> What's
everyone working on?
L403[03:00:22] <Forecaster> Secret
things
L404[03:03:50] <greaser|q> 1802 is
something i've yet to learn
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L406[03:04:01] <greaser|q> and yeah what
Forecaster said, although different secret things
L407[03:04:17] <Turtle> o/
L408[03:04:24] <ThylaComputer> \o
L409[03:04:48] <greaser|q> although said
secret things for me got interrupted by a clicker that someone
linked
L410[03:04:56] <Izaya> The 1802 is an
interesting processor
L411[03:05:17] <greaser|q> it's bloody
weird
L412[03:05:26] <Forecaster> dont you dare
link it
L413[03:05:43] <greaser|q> then again i
used to think the 6502 was weird
L414[03:06:01] <greaser|q> and no, don't
worry, i won't link you to swarmsim.github.io, which is the clicker
i'm playing
L415[03:06:55] <Forecaster> dammit
L416[03:07:50] <greaser|q> if you want an
architecture that's fun to optimise for at the asm level, try the
ARM7TDMI, or more specifically the GBA
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L418[03:09:06] <Forecaster> dark theme,
nice
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L421[03:12:47] <Forecaster> ...
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L424[03:15:17] <Izaya> the 6502 is
wonderful
L425[03:15:59] <ping> "down to ~1200
compiler errors, which is quite low regarding the fact, we started
with ~ 8000) "
L426[03:16:02] <ping> only java
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L428[03:21:52] <ThylaComputer> I really
should get chunkloaded.
L429[03:22:35] *
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L430[03:23:45] *
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L432[03:24:37] <thebest108> any m8s
here?
L433[03:25:20] <ThylaComputer> Sorry, i'm
only an m12
L434[03:26:29] *
Temia is a m00.
L435[03:26:39] <Kodos> I'm an m16
L436[03:26:56] <Forecaster> I'm mint
flavoured
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L439[03:32:54] <ThylaComputer>
Blebleble
L440[03:34:43] <greaser|q> i'm a m...lemme
take your stuff
L441[03:35:22] <snowden89> any
mates?
L442[03:35:38] <ThylaComputer> WARNING:
CREEPER IN SECTOR 7,-2
L443[03:35:54] <snowden89> now its
snowden
L444[03:35:57] <snowden89> not
creeper
L445[03:36:03] <Forecaster> this channel
mostly consists of backstabbers, I would guess
L446[03:36:12] *
snowden89 points at the guy in the flasher jacket
L447[03:36:16] <snowden89> thats
creeper
L448[03:36:16] *
Forecaster keeps an eye out for daggers
L449[03:36:28] *
snowden89 pulls the dagger out of Forecaster
L450[03:37:04] <Temia> Greaser, no
L451[03:37:06] <Temia> Bad.
L452[03:40:02] <Forecaster> aw my dagger
D:
L453[03:40:07] <Forecaster> I was saving
that...
L454[03:40:12] <Forecaster> for... um...
cake
L455[03:40:15] <Forecaster> yes
L456[03:40:30] <snowden89> so what did
this guy thebest108 even want?
L457[03:40:55] <Forecaster> friends?
L458[03:41:13] <snowden89> should call
himself theguywhosaysonethingthenlurkssilentlyfor108hours
L459[03:41:14] <ThylaComputer> asl
L460[03:41:27] <snowden89> asain sex
league?
L461[03:41:34] <Temia> Maybe they just
want gr8 b8
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L463[03:45:36] <ThylaComputer> :o
L464[03:48:29] <ThylaComputer>
swarmsim.github.io <- Addictive
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L466[03:58:55] <ThylaComputer> power
low
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L468[04:34:57] <Inari> meh
L469[04:35:08] <Inari> ThylaComputer: what
makes it special?:p
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L471[04:35:20] <ThylaComputer> Huh?
L472[04:35:54] <Inari> well theres like a
hundred other "click this now and then" games like this,
that seem kind of nice at first but quickly grow boring
L473[04:35:57] <Inari> wondering what
seaprates this
L474[04:36:41] <ThylaComputer> It's got
lots of features and it's bugs.
L475[04:37:43] <ThylaComputer> That's what
seapirates this.
L476[04:38:13] <Inari> any features that
arent "click button to buy/ugprade more"? XD
L477[04:38:47] <greaser|q> will say the
best one was the original one: candy box
L478[04:39:14] <Inari> meh
L479[04:39:25] <Inari> i had some fun with
some other one where you biult up a town/nation ro so
L480[04:39:29] <Inari> but it eventaully
got boring too
L481[04:39:46] <Inari> was mostly a bit
more fun as you had to balance things a little
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L483[04:44:08] <Kodos> Welp
L484[04:44:10] <Kodos> IC2 just went
RF
L485[04:45:11] <Forecaster> yeah
L486[04:45:50] <Forecaster> I'd hoped it
was an april fools joke
L487[04:46:08] <Kodos> Indeed
L488[04:46:53] <Temia> We have
confirmation that it's legit?
L489[04:46:57] <Forecaster> yes
L490[04:47:09] <Temia> Because there's an
increasingly shitty trend of people pulling their pranks a day
early.
L491[04:47:15] <Forecaster> there's been
test builds going out
L492[04:47:37] <Forecaster> to certain
people
L493[04:48:07] <Temia> Hmm.
L494[04:48:11] <Forecaster> I'm pretty
convinced
L495[04:48:12] <Temia> That doesn't sound
like much to go on.
L496[04:48:31] <Forecaster> I'm still
prepared to believe it's a joke though
L497[04:48:40] <Temia> Yeah.
L498[04:48:40] <Forecaster> haven't heard
anything from Player yet
L499[04:48:57] <Temia> Well by the sound
of things, Player isn't involved with the decision
L500[04:49:32] <Forecaster> even so I'd
expect him to be "in the loop" about this
L501[04:50:47] <Forecaster> also consider
the fact that the e-net hasn't worked properly in exp for an
eternity
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L505[05:11:22] <Izaya> what
L506[05:11:29] <Izaya> IC2
L507[05:11:32] <Izaya> RF?
L508[05:11:37] <Izaya> we've lost another
one it seems
L509[05:14:58] <greaser|q> i'm going to
leave this suggestion here as something that would be a gloriously
terrible suggestion to suggest
L510[05:15:05] <greaser|q> SMP support for
OC
L511[05:15:11] <Lizzy> greaser|q, ?
L512[05:15:13] <greaser|q> with proper
synchronisation
L513[05:15:37] <greaser|q> as in, being
able to have two CPUs in a single computer
L514[05:16:38] <snowden89> you cant do
that
L515[05:16:41] <snowden89> ?
L516[05:16:44] <Izaya> I'd be for
that
L517[05:16:52] <greaser|q> you can have
two separate computers in OC, that would be fine
L518[05:17:14] <greaser|q> although i'd
almost be tempted to try making a dual-core MIPS CPU
architecture... *almost*
L519[05:17:22] <greaser|q> just to show
you how batshit this idea actually is
L520[05:19:23] <greaser|q> ...although if
you aren't too concerned about cycle-exact timing and are just
running two threads at once, it might work
L521[05:19:33] <greaser|q> would still be
complicated though
L522[05:20:12] <greaser|q> the catch of
course is to keep it less complicated you'd have to make sure that
the RAM was divided between the two CPUs
L523[05:20:51] <greaser|q> main thing here
is that the Lua CPUs don't have a direct memory map
L524[05:21:43] <greaser|q> that, and it'd
also be a pain in the arse running two threads and avoiding
conflicts... so ultimately they'd basically be, well, just like two
networked computers, only more complicated and less flexible
L525[05:23:10] <greaser|q> so SMP on a
single CPU - that is, a dual-core CPU - would be pretty crazy
L526[05:23:49] <greaser|q> easiest way to
do it is to have a "i'm waiting for this cycle" variable
for each core
L527[05:24:02] <Izaya> well I mean
L528[05:24:05] <KittyKath> Izaya: D:
L529[05:24:09] <Izaya> the machine.lua or
wherever it's sandboxed
L530[05:24:39] <greaser|q> any reads or
writes would potentially make a core go into this wait state
L531[05:24:51] <greaser|q> unless of
course you can get a cache to behave
L532[05:24:51] <Izaya> KittyKath: found
that and thought you might find it amusing
L533[05:25:03] <Izaya> you could just have
it abuse debug.sethook
L534[05:25:08] <Izaya> to switch between
two main threads
L535[05:25:18] <KittyKath> Izaya: You are
mean :I
L536[05:25:55] <Izaya> KittyKath: what's
mean about finding someone's name on bash.org and then linking it
to them?
L537[05:25:57] <Izaya> :<
L538[05:26:37] <KittyKath> Izaya:
Reminding me of my hair :I
L539[05:26:45] <Izaya> ... fair
enough
L540[05:26:49] <Izaya> it was
unintentional I swear
L541[05:27:03] <Lizzy> :O?
L542[05:27:09] *
Lizzy hugs KittyKath
L543[05:27:25] *
KittyKath hugs Lizzy
L544[05:27:44] <Lizzy> now where is my
dork
L545[05:29:37] ***
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L546[05:30:45] <Lizzy> at this rate he's
gonna fuck up his sleeping pattern so that he ends up falling
asleep during the day saturday
L547[05:31:56] *
Lizzy giggles to herself
L548[05:32:03] *
Izaya boredly wonders if Lizzy has graphed this or
something
L549[05:32:41] *
Lizzy would be a pie chart
L550[05:32:57] *
Lizzy is in a hyper-bored mood
L551[05:33:55] <Lizzy> I like
systemd
L552[05:34:12] <greaser|q> hmm i just
realised, you could totally play two clickers at once, start one,
then when it gets grindy and slow start the other one
L554[05:34:42] <Forecaster> I'm
"playing" cookie clicker right now
L555[05:34:51] <Forecaster> by which I
mean I hava javascript play it for me
L556[05:35:03] <Izaya> oh my haruhi
greaser|q
L557[05:35:08] <Izaya> can I just download
the lot of this?
L558[05:35:28] <greaser|q> dunno, you
could try recursive wget
L559[05:35:28] <Izaya> wget I guess
L560[05:35:35] <greaser|q> a lot of the
John Mashey stuff is great esp wrt MIPS
L561[05:35:49] <greaser|q> e.g. the LL/SC
notes
L562[05:37:42] <Lizzy> dammit, I wanna
move my servers over ot Arch but i can't easilly do that with Athar
cause of the VMs and other stuff on it
L563[05:38:26] <KittyKath> Lizzy: You can
shut down my vm if you need to just give me a few hours early
warning
L564[05:38:44] <Lizzy> KittyKath, errmm,
it's more than just your vps that i have running on athar
L565[05:39:01] <KittyKath> I know, just
saying if you do get around to doing it :P
L566[05:39:05] <snowden89> lizzy you have
a dedi?
L567[05:39:08] <Temia> I think she means
more logistical issues? Rolling release + keeping VPS interruptions
low don't really go hand-in-hand
L568[05:39:21] <Lizzy> snowden89,
yep
L569[05:39:28] <KittyKath> Temia: No they
totally do ;P
L570[05:39:33] <snowden89> whats the cost
for you?
L571[05:39:38] <Lizzy> Temia, also the
fact that Athar is currently Debian 8
L572[05:39:43] <Temia> true.
L573[05:39:54] <snowden89> i am having
frustrations with debian 8
L574[05:39:57] <snowden89> at the moment
for my VPS
L575[05:40:06] <Lizzy> snowden89, I think
about 50€/mo for the dedi itself and the extra IPs i have
L576[05:40:18] <snowden89> USD or
EUR?
L577[05:40:34] <Lizzy> $ is dollars, € is
Euros
L578[05:40:40] <snowden89> ah
L579[05:40:46] <snowden89> stupid utf
issue
L580[05:40:59] <snowden89> i am getting ?
mark for the euro sign
L581[05:41:06] <snowden89> utf-8*
L582[05:41:11] <Lizzy> ah
L583[05:42:00] <Lizzy> KittyKath, I have 5
VMs, GitLab, mail server, Temia's mc server and a few other things
on Athar like home folders with data in them (i think Izaya is
currently beating me ever so slightly in storage spaced used in
home dirs :P )
L584[05:42:29] <Izaya> greaser|q: THERE IS
SO MUCH INFO HERE :D
L585[05:42:38] <Temia> An MC server I need
to update... whenever I find the errant screw in my Windows laptop.
.-.
L586[05:43:06] <snowden89> I am
considering bouncing from linode
L587[05:43:13] <snowden89> :(
L588[05:43:22] <Lizzy> also if i do end up
converting Athar over to Arch, I want to set the partitions up
manually this time because when i used the hosters web-based
installer stuff to partition the drives, instead of giving me a
total of 10GB of swap i have:
L589[05:43:26] <snowden89> cause the costs
for greater then 6gb rams
L590[05:43:26] <Lizzy> .load
L591[05:43:26] <EnderBot2> CPU: 1.31 0.79
0.56 , RAM: 14.5G/31.3G (~46.4%), SWAP: 414.7M/88.2G (~0.5%)
L592[05:43:34] <Lizzy> 88GB of the
stuff
L593[05:43:34] <KittyKath> Gitlab into a
container so you don't have to mess with the incompatible Ruby
version Arch rolls, Mail is easy, MC can roll over at the next
restart and VMs need to be rebooted. You can do a live install of
Arch you know? The bigger issue is that Debian 8 probably does not
roll a 4.1+ kernel?
L594[05:44:13] <KittyKath> Live
repartitioning will be a bitch though. What's your FS?
L595[05:44:20] <Temia> 88GBs of swap
what
L596[05:44:27] <Lizzy> Temia, yup
L597[05:44:32] <Temia> That's
horrifying
L598[05:44:43] <KittyKath> 62.9GB of swap
^^
L599[05:44:51] <snowden89> sigh
L600[05:44:56] <snowden89> i have to
cleanup my mail server
L601[05:45:05] <snowden89> so many old
domains, sitting there
L602[05:45:08] <snowden89> in my
databas
L603[05:45:11] <snowden89> database.
L604[05:45:12] <Izaya> I have to get my
new domain and set up a mail server
L605[05:45:15] <Izaya> x_x
L606[05:45:16] <Lizzy> ext4 i think, the
raid is also a non-dedicated card one
L607[05:45:36] <Izaya> also, >not
btrfs
L608[05:45:44] <KittyKath> Ext with
software RAID? Okay, you're sol. Straight ext would be easy to
extend
L609[05:45:46] <Lizzy> Izaya, shish
L610[05:46:00] <KittyKath> Izaya: Have you
played with the ext->btrfs conversion tool?
L611[05:46:02] *
Temia doesn't even have swap on her laptop .-. well, besides zram.
Does that count/
L612[05:46:03] <Temia> *?
L613[05:46:14] <snowden89> personally
unless your doing it for learning, using gmail/microsoft is
normally easier
L614[05:46:16] <KittyKath> Temia: No, but
you're on a laptop. You don't care tooo much :P
L615[05:46:22] <snowden89> for mail
servers
L616[05:46:27] <Temia> True.
L617[05:46:29] <Lizzy> KittyKath, it's
more of a BIOS raid, I think. I actually have no idea what the
fucking installer did
L618[05:46:34] <Izaya> I haven't - didn't
want to screw over any ext4 filesystems but I've used btrfs for
everything in the last year or two
L619[05:46:39] <Temia> It's also a laptop
with only 2GBs of memory though... and 32 of storage space
c.c;
L620[05:46:40] <KittyKath> Easier in setup
maybe. But way less configurable snowden89
L621[05:46:45] <Izaya> snowden89: that
doesn't allow me to be sufficiently paranoid
L622[05:46:49] <Lizzy> snowden89, I can't
use my domain's email on gmail
L623[05:46:54] <Temia> ...was it 32?
Could've been 16. *check*
L624[05:47:02] <Temia> 32.
L625[05:47:10] <snowden89> ah what do you
mean lizzy
L626[05:47:23] <snowden89>
arron@runicnet.ninja as a gmail service
L627[05:47:29] <KittyKath> Temia: I used
to have an old hp laptop with a 8GB hdd. But then one of the hinges
broke and my dad threw it out :I
L628[05:47:32] <snowden89> would still be
arron@runicnet.ninja?
L629[05:47:42] <Temia> I've been
there.
L630[05:47:53] <g> snowden89, you have to
pay for that service with google apps these days
L631[05:47:53] <Lizzy> snowden89, I've
never seen the option to use my own domain with gmail
L632[05:47:58] <g> Lizzy, you can do
it
L633[05:48:02] <snowden89> its a paid
service
L634[05:48:07] <KittyKath> Lizzy: gmail
for business basically
L636[05:48:11] <Lizzy> ah, then i don't
want to bother with it
L638[05:48:16] <g> it used to be
free
L639[05:48:18] <g> but not anymore
L640[05:48:22] <snowden89> they manage all
the shit for you
L641[05:48:29] <KittyKath> For people who
don't know how to setup their own postfix and stuffs :P
L642[05:48:30] <g> the best you can do is
set up your own email server and have gmail be a pop client for
it
L643[05:48:34] <snowden89> and filter of
half the security attacks
L644[05:48:55] <Lizzy> snowden89, i like
to manage my own shit
L645[05:49:02] <snowden89> i do as
well
L646[05:49:07] <snowden89> as i said
though
L647[05:49:17] <snowden89> its easier if
you are not interested in the learning side of things
L648[05:49:32] <Lizzy> I /may/ just see if
there's a dedi that's one tier up from my current one and set that
up then migrate stuff across
L649[05:49:45] <snowden89> lol that
works
L650[05:49:47] <snowden89> :P
L651[05:49:55] <g> I used iRedMail with a
couple tweaks for my mail setup
L652[05:50:02] <g> it requires that you
have a fresh server though
L653[05:50:20] <g> but it'll set up
postfix, amavisd, clamav, dovecot, etc
L654[05:50:57] <snowden89> i have dovecot
postfix, a catch all account
L655[05:51:08] <snowden89> for outgoing
etc
L656[05:51:12] <Lizzy> snowden89, my mail
server works fine. i did have Dovecot on it once before but i think
i broke it somehow when trying to add a user account so that
Saphire could get mail
L657[05:51:22] <g> amavisd does spam
filtering, along with spamassassin, and clamav is antivirus
L658[05:51:28] <snowden89> that i have a
python script running on
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L661[05:51:39] <snowden89> it sends me a
list every 24 hours of all outgoing email.
L662[05:51:41] <Saphire> Sowwy
L663[05:51:45] <g> Lizzy, salmon might be
handy for you if you just want to forward mail
L664[05:51:52] <snowden89> so i can see if
any of the old accounts are comprimised
L666[05:52:20] <Lizzy> g, eh, i'm fine
with logging into Athar to get my mail for now
L667[05:52:27] <Saphire> Lizzy: wow,
uptime is HUGE
L668[05:52:31] <g> it's a neat project
that you should look at anyway
L670[05:52:34] <Saphire> my tmux session
is still up >_>
L671[05:52:34] <Lizzy> Saphire, ?
L672[05:52:42] <Lizzy> Saphire, for
Athar?
L673[05:52:46] <Saphire> mhm
L674[05:53:17] <Lizzy> well duh, it's a
Dedicated server and it has other peoples shit running on it. I'm
not gonna randomly reboot it just for the heck of it
L675[05:53:39] <snowden89> yeah i check my
mail via clients or via ssh
L676[05:53:41] <g> yeah, before I had to
reinstall my machine, it had almost 2 years of uptime
L677[05:53:44] <Lizzy> maybe some day i'll
try setting up a proper mail setup on one of my servers but i don't
feel like trying that with debian... just too outdated
L678[05:53:44] <snowden89> so never setup
interface
L679[05:53:54] <snowden89> for the people
I used to host for
L680[05:54:03] <snowden89> i just showed
them how to have gmail as there email client
L681[05:54:09] <snowden89> so it just
downloads the mail.
L682[05:55:05] <g> yeah, I don't have a
webmail setup
L683[05:55:12] <g> just a small admin
panel for adding accounts
L684[06:00:01] <Lizzy> Linux
Athar.theender.net 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian
3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 (2015-08-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux
L685[06:00:14] <Lizzy> ^ is what my Dedi's
Kernel is currently at
L686[06:00:42] <Lizzy> Janus is the
same
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L693[06:29:50] <g> Lizzy: Do you run janus
on janus? :o
L694[06:30:17] <Lizzy> no, Janus is a
Vultr VPS
L695[06:30:27] <g> A what?
L696[06:30:36] <g> oh, they're a hos
L697[06:30:37] <Lizzy> VPS
L699[06:30:43] <Lizzy> yes, what did you
think?
L700[06:30:57] <g> well that made me think
it was an OS or something incapable of running perl
L701[06:31:10] <Lizzy> lol
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L708[07:17:03] <Lizzy> .load
L709[07:17:03] <EnderBot2> CPU: 2.71 1.56
0.99 , RAM: 11.2G/31.3G (~35.7%), SWAP: 166.2M/88.2G (~0.2%)
L710[07:17:19] <Lizzy> wow, when did that
drop from 20G ram usage...
L711[07:17:25] <Lizzy> not that i'm
complaining
L712[07:17:35] *
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L713[07:18:45] *
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instead
L714[07:20:57] <Forecaster> ohno, I've
been swapped D:
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L716[07:26:11] <Lizzy> Temia, sorry if
your mc server starts having shit tps for the next 5 minutes or so,
i'm paralell-compressing archives
L717[07:27:19] <Lizzy> .load
L718[07:27:20] <EnderBot2> CPU: 7.03 4.06
2.31 , RAM: 11.1G/31.3G (~35.6%), SWAP: 165.8M/88.2G (~0.2%)
L719[07:27:24] <Lizzy> heh
L720[07:27:56] *
Lizzy is probably warming up online's DC
L721[07:32:42] <Lizzy> cool, so Athar's /
(excluding other partitions, servers and soft-dirs, i.e. /home,
/data, /proc & /sys) goes to about a 17G .tar file and when
compressed with pigz (paralell gzip compressor) at level 9 goes to
about 9.1G
L722[07:33:51] <Lizzy> also Saphire, only
just seen you saying sorry to my message about mail server stuff.
It's not your fault :) i would have broken it myself soon enough
anyway
L723[07:36:25] *
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L724[07:37:29] <Lizzy> yay
L725[07:37:32] <Lizzy> my dork is
here
L726[07:37:42] <vifino> I'm not a dork
.-.
L727[07:37:42] *
Lizzy hugs her dork (vifino)
L728[07:37:46] <Lizzy> yes you are
L729[07:37:47] <Lizzy> :P
L730[07:37:57] <vifino> :<
L731[07:38:29] <vifino> I'm not silly a
whopping 5% of the day!
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L737[07:42:51] <Saintmare> hi
L738[07:43:12] <vifino> Good
"hi" to you too.
L739[07:43:41] <Lizzy> Hai o/ <3
L740[07:44:15] <Lizzy> that is your one
free nice response from me used, to gain more you have to earn
them
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L744[07:46:06] <vifino> :3
L745[07:48:05] <Lizzy> na, yours are
gained through a programming shortcut
L746[07:48:49] <Lizzy> basically if person
== vifino: return True else __otherstuff__
L747[07:50:49] <vifino> :3
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L750[07:52:37] <Saintmare> Wow
L751[07:53:37] <Saintmare> How to make
color nick?
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to use pigz/pixz to compress stuff in the home dirs, i'm going to
have to make them only use like, 4 threads max because if a 17G
file took about 5 minutes using all cores, i don't want to find out
how long a 200G file would max out the system for
L759[08:38:12] <Lizzy> i wonder if i could
make it's threads lower priority, so if there's nothing needing to
be done they'll use the resources but then it shouldn't starve the
other processes of CPU time
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L763[09:22:28] <Stary2001> Lizzy: use
nice
L765[09:22:47] <Stary2001> nice - run a
program with modified scheduling priority
L766[09:22:53] <g> nice is.. nice
L767[09:22:58] <Lizzy> ah
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L809[12:08:27] <Turtle> Well. Yet another
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L810[12:08:46] <Stary2001> f
L813[12:14:57] <Temia> mu?
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L828[12:33:47] <Turtle> Roller coaster
tycoon, the PC release is, to be frank
L829[12:33:50] <Turtle> absolute
shite.
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L841[12:47:27] <Turtle> welp ran out of
redstone trying to build a robot
L842[12:52:33] <Inari> the turtle who
couldnt bear children
L843[12:53:05] <Turtle> heh, I need it to
manage a bunch of storage drawers with ex nihilo
L844[12:54:00] <Turtle> (Because replacing
quarries is :effort:)
L845[12:54:24] <Inari> factorios
automation seem kind of nicer than MCs in some respects
L846[12:54:43] <Inari> probably also
coming from the fact that it has a coherent concept
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L849[13:12:20] <Turtle> also: Metallurgy
midasium OP :p
L850[13:13:18] <Sangar> o/
L851[13:14:05] <Turtle> o/
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L875[14:16:42] <Xilandro> Are there any OC
Items with a symmetrical sprite
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L878[14:17:26] <Forecaster> the
floppies
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L880[14:17:30] <Forecaster> maybe?
L881[14:19:26] <Xilandro> I'll use a disk
platter =D
L882[14:19:30] <Xilandro> Thanks for the
inspiration
L883[14:19:49] <Forecaster> no problem
:P
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L889[14:58:25] <Michiyo> damn.. times like
this make me miss EVE, giant nullsec war going on
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L899[15:14:14] <Xilandro> I don't miss it
at all
L900[15:15:30] <payo-remote> Sangar:
finished doing my part with secureos last night, and had a little
extra time to make term blinking awesome
L901[15:15:42] <payo-remote> i'll finish
the erm....color palette stuff tonight
L902[15:15:44] <payo-remote> sorry for the
delay
L903[15:20:30] <Sangar> payo-remote,
coolio, thanks for the update :)
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L906[15:40:43] <Michiyo> Xilandro,
:P
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L913[15:51:24] <g> (in the topic of
#archlinux on esper)
L914[15:52:09] <Dashkal> My eyes....
L915[15:52:54] <KittyKath> g: No bitch,
I'm better than you because I use Haskell. Fucking Python Casual
N00b.
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L919[15:53:14] <MichiBot>
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L921[15:53:20] <Dashkal> Pfft, old and
busted. Idris > all
L922[15:53:39] *
Dashkal should really spend the time to learn Idris at some
point
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L924[15:57:01] <vifino> >arch
L925[15:57:05] <vifino> >not using
gentoo
L926[15:57:10] <g> vifino: see link
L927[15:57:13] <vifino> CASUAL
L928[15:57:15] <g> getting the angle of
that pelvic thrust is hard
L929[15:57:23] *
Dashkal shudders at gentoo
L930[15:57:29] <vifino> g: I manage just
fine.
L931[15:57:31] <vifino> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L933[15:58:33] <vifino> g: that command is
wrong
L934[15:58:42] <vifino> emerge sync ->
emerge --sync
L935[15:58:43] <KittyKath>
scripts/bootsrap.sh
L937[15:58:53] <vifino> also that.
L938[15:58:56] <payo-remote> Dashkal: i
gentoo
L939[15:59:10] <Dashkal> As do many
people
L940[15:59:12] <KittyKath> payo-remote:
Shush your vote doesn't count.
L941[15:59:36] <vifino> I like both arch
and gentoo a lot.
L942[15:59:39] <Dashkal> I use Arch. Tried
to use Nix. Sadly, it didn't deliver on its promises.
L943[15:59:50] <vifino> But gentoo is more
fun to set up, arch just works.
L944[15:59:54] <Dashkal> Gentoo had a bad
habit of wedging on me, requiring full reinstalls.
L945[15:59:56] <vifino> Too boring.
L946[16:00:04] *
Dashkal likes his OS boring.
L947[16:00:14] <vifino> that's
boring.
L948[16:00:18] <KittyKath> I use Arch.
Hate on everything not Arch. Hate on Arch derivates too. Feel like
a queen. Am an idiot instead ;P
L949[16:00:42] <vifino> Can confirm on
idiot part.
L950[16:00:44] <Dashkal> I have no
argument to your self assessment >.>
L951[16:00:46] *
vifino hides
L952[16:00:58] <KittyKath> Fuck both of
you. And fuck g in particular <.<
L953[16:01:07] <vifino> <3
L954[16:01:20] <KittyKath> vifino:
<3
L955[16:01:47] *
Dashkal whistles a happy tune
L956[16:02:15] <g> KittyKath: later.
:v
L957[16:02:36] <g> Arch isn't bad though,
in all seriousness
L958[16:02:41] <g> I just can't use it
without breaking it
L959[16:02:41] <KittyKath> g: I'm going to
be asleep later :I
L961[16:02:47] <vifino> of course it
isn't, g.
L962[16:03:20] <g> KittyKath: I was about
to say "exactly" but I'm not that type of guy xD
L963[16:03:42] <vifino> Gentoo or even
Ubuntu aren't bad either, they just have a specific user group not
everyone is included in.
L964[16:03:47] <KittyKath> g: But
"later. :v"? Your game is weak bitch.
L965[16:04:00] <vifino> SHOTS FIRED, SHOTS
FIRED
L966[16:04:02] <g> KittyKath: pfft, like
anyone's going to do that with me anyway :P
L967[16:04:26] <g> if you can't afford it,
don't put in the deposit, right?
L968[16:04:28] <KittyKath> g: Well you
apparently run away when you try and I'm not going to run after
you.
L969[16:04:46] <KittyKath> We developed
sniper rifles for a reason.
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L973[16:08:50] <greaser|q> seriously guys
you're doing it wrong
L974[16:08:54] <greaser|q> you need to
install openbsd
L975[16:09:00] <greaser|q> to make your
system secure
L976[16:09:00] <g> I've actually used
openbsd
L977[16:09:02] <g> it was.. not fun
L978[16:10:09] <g> I couldn't figure out
how to use vi (it didn't have the same controls as linux vi) and it
always broke on reboot
L979[16:10:33] <greaser|q> also haskell
sucks, i use C
L980[16:10:51] <Dashkal> pfft. Just write
your own OS from scratch. It's the only way to be sure.
L981[16:11:16] <greaser|q> i've done
that
L982[16:11:23] <Dashkal> And if you aren't
doing it with a hex editor writing machine code, you're on
ezmode
L983[16:11:37] <greaser|q> as for that how
to install gentoo vid, one of the displays is an aalib demo called
"bb" and the music is a lizardking track called "a
piece of magicmix"
L984[16:11:40] <CompanionCube> obviously
everyone should be running Oberon/OpenGenera/<insert
single-language OS here>
L985[16:11:53] <greaser|q> you forgot
templeos
L987[16:11:59] <g> dammit greaser
L988[16:12:16] <g> get back in your
box
L990[16:12:28] <CompanionCube> I have only
ever used the 2nd one
L991[16:12:35] <CompanionCube> and even
that only as far as the splashscreen
L992[16:12:40] <greaser|q> you could try
using GenXOS but that's woefully incomplete
L993[16:12:54] <CompanionCube> SqueakNOS
might also count
L994[16:13:00] <g> everything interesting
is woefully incomplete
L995[16:13:03] <g> like timesplitters
rewind
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L998[16:13:11] <greaser|q> nevertheless if
you have a GMA 4500MHD or an Intel HD 3000 you get a full res 32bpp
display on a laptop
L1000[16:15:09] <greaser|q> unfortunately
i could only get the blitter working on the GMA 4500MHD
L1001[16:15:20] <greaser|q> it's probably
because i don't have the GTT working properly on the HD3000
L1002[16:15:41] <greaser|q> and, well,
the 3d pipeline really didn't want to work
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L1004[16:28:07] <g> "Happy Biting
VR, Bloodsucking Sim, Now on Steam Greenlight"
L1005[16:28:12] <g> I'd link the site but
it's nsfw
L1006[16:30:56] *
Lizzy looks away for a few moments
L1007[16:31:44] <g> No, it really is
NSFW
L1009[16:31:56] <g> the game is
first-person VR ecchi basically
L1010[16:31:59] <g> you're a
mosquito
L1012[16:32:41] <Lizzy> .... pm me it
:P
L1013[16:32:56] <g> sent. :P
L1014[16:33:20] <Stary2001> oh is it like
that one ps2 game
L1018[16:33:44] <g> this is deliberately
lewd
L1019[16:33:46] <Stary2001> kek
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L1033[16:56:27] <greaser|q> hmm, should
OCMIPS be able to run without RAM installed by always having 32KB
available?
L1034[16:57:44] <greaser|q> ultimately
means that the jump vectors + EEPROM space are available
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L1036[17:01:38] <greaser|q> anyhow here i
am trying another clean rebuild of mipsel-none-elf
L1037[17:14:04] <Sangar> iirc the (now
abandoned) arm arch also supported ram-free booting. if it makes
sense, why not.
L1039[17:19:43] <greaser|q> Sangar: wait,
which arm arch? i thought ds was still working on one
L1040[17:20:05] <Sangar> dunno, did he
take it over or make a new one?
L1041[17:20:48] <Stary2001> Izaya: the
fuck
L1042[17:21:05] <greaser|q> i think he
took it over
L1043[17:21:15] <greaser|q> he took
something over anyway
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L1046[17:22:07] <greaser|q> yeah, i'm
aware of that one
L1047[17:22:09] <Sangar> if he did, cool,
maybe it'll get finished after all
L1048[17:22:12] <Izaya> Stary2001: I'm
going with an April Fool's but you never know
L1049[17:22:22] <Stary2001> "The
prosecution office in the city of Zwickau believes I may have a
surgically-implanted storage device."
L1050[17:22:45] <Izaya> vc is secretly a
cyborg
L1051[17:22:53] <Stary2001> "The
German procesution office in the city of Zwickau has seized two of
cock.li's hard drives, about 3 weeks apart, resulting in the total
loss of mail storage and everything else stored on the
server."
L1052[17:22:55] <greaser|q> probably
going to be another 10 or so mins while the full gcc builds and
then i'll have to get mocha to behave with newlib again
L1053[17:23:01] <greaser|q> musl was just
too much damn effort to support
L1054[17:23:06] <Stary2001> lol..
L1055[17:23:09] <Stary2001> yes.
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L1057[17:23:47] <greaser|q> oh yeah fun
thing i'm also building with fortran support *just in case* some
shitty lib needs it
L1058[17:24:05] <greaser|q> or maybe it's
easier to parse and thus i can inflict fortran on people
L1059[17:24:17] <greaser|q> tbh though it
would make more sense to implement BASIC
L1060[17:24:22] <Izaya> FORTH
L1061[17:24:30] <greaser|q>
booooriiing
L1062[17:24:38] <greaser|q> but if you
really want forth there are implementations out there
L1063[17:24:41] <Izaya> but functional
and somewhat eosteric
L1064[17:24:46] <greaser|q> e.g. the one
that freebsd uses for its bootloader
L1065[17:24:58] <greaser|q> ah it *is*
called ficl
L1066[17:25:12] *
Izaya actually really likes the idea of OpenFirmware - too bad it's
only on like 10 machines
L1067[17:25:43] <greaser|q> i might be
tempted to implement that but at this stage an ELF bootloader is
fine
L1068[17:26:04] <greaser|q> also seeing
as i don't have a userbase i could actually have a 4KB RAM section
for the EEPROM
L1069[17:28:05] <greaser|q>
../../../gcc-5.3.0/libgfortran/runtime/string.c:96:1: error: static
declaration of 'strnlen' follows non-static declaration
L1070[17:28:05] <greaser|q> strnlen
(const char *s, size_t maxlen)
L1071[17:28:07] <greaser|q> lovely
L1072[17:29:41] <Stary2001> lol
fortran
L1073[17:29:44] <greaser|q> well, seems
commenting those two lines out in the header made it work
L1074[17:30:17] <Sangar> it's the easiest
way to make code stop erroring after all
L1075[17:31:02] <greaser|q> i can just
uncomment it after it's all built
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L1084[17:45:35] <Vex|Mobile> %tell Sangar
Potato.
L1085[17:45:38] <MichiBot> Vex|Mobile:
Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1086[17:45:45] <Sangar> screw you
Vex|Mobile
L1087[17:46:10] <Vex|Mobile> been sitting
in a bus for the entire day
L1088[17:46:17] <Vex|Mobile> I come
back
L1089[17:46:22] <Sangar> why would you do
that
L1090[17:46:25] <Vex|Mobile> and the
universe collapsed
L1091[17:46:35] <Sangar> yes, things
happened
L1092[17:46:50] <Vex|Mobile> Sangar:
Vorarlberg->Bremen is a long trip
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L1094[17:47:30] <Sangar> still. a
bus?
L1095[17:47:41] <Sangar> :P
L1096[17:47:43] <Vex|Mobile> €27 :/
L1097[17:48:13] <Izaya> universe
collapsed?
L1098[17:48:15] <Vex|Mobile> and free
non-working wifi
L1099[17:48:29] <Vex|Mobile> hence my
impresence
L1100[17:48:39] <Sangar> Izaya, the
ic2/bc thing (i'm assuming anyway)
L1101[17:48:44] <Izaya> oh
L1102[17:48:49] <Vex|Mobile> I should
sleep
L1103[17:48:51] <Vex|Mobile> but
L1104[17:48:53] <Izaya> right
L1105[17:48:54] <Vex|Mobile> WHAT.
L1106[17:48:56] <Sangar> i should,
too
L1107[17:49:02] *
Izaya continues hoping it's april fools
L1108[17:49:04] <Vex|Mobile> W H A
T
L1109[17:49:35] <Vex|Mobile> Izaya, it
happened on May 31st though
L1110[17:49:51] <Temia> There are videos
hanging around showing legit gameplay mechanics at work.
L1111[17:49:51] <Izaya> Vex|Mobile: still
hoping it's april fools
L1112[17:49:58] <Temia> So it's probably
not.
L1113[17:50:11] <Vex|Mobile> Sangar: I
like how literally every IC2 fan I know thinks it is a horrible
idea
L1114[17:50:13] <Temia> Unless they're
THAT determined for a prank
L1115[17:50:42] <Izaya> tbh I dislike
IC2's energy system
L1116[17:50:45] <Izaya> but I dislike RF
more
L1117[17:50:48] <Vex|Mobile> And anyone
who does not care appreciates it
L1118[17:51:11] <Izaya> mana is the best
energy system /s
L1119[17:51:13] <Vex|Mobile> the forum
thread is full of RIP IC2 by real die-hard fanboys
L1120[17:51:16] <Sangar> i'm looking
forward to the changes, it's a breath of fresh air
L1121[17:51:24] <Vex|Mobile> followed by
Hail Greg's
L1122[17:51:27] <Sangar> lel
L1123[17:52:20] <Vex|Mobile> Because greg
would not ever base his mod on RF as it is :P
L1124[17:52:28] <Vex|Mobile> GT is IC2
now
L1125[17:52:42] <Vex|Mobile> and IC2 is
just another generic tech mod
L1126[17:53:34] <Sangar> we'll see i
guess. to be fair, i haven't used ic2 on its own in a while, last
time also was with gtech, so... that was pretty much just gtech
anyway >_>
L1127[17:53:57] <Sangar> but yeah, my
physical shell demands sleep, so i'm off for today. gnight o/
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L1131[18:00:27] <Mimiru> Wait what the
fuck have I missed?
L1132[18:01:37] *
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L1135[18:12:38] <Xilandro> Mimiru, IC2 is
porting to 1.8.9, and switching to RF
L1136[18:13:53] <Mimiru> Xilandro, yeah I
just found the BC 8 announcement
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L1148[19:02:37] <Techokami> to summarize
the article I just linked: "Remarkable thing: open source guy
Miguel de Icaza created Xamarin and made it closed source, now
Microsoft is open sourcing it"
L1149[19:04:41] <Techokami> all of Mono
and all of Xamarin's proprietary tools are relicensed under MIT and
put under ownership of the .NET Foundation
L1150[19:06:08] <Temia> In other news,
the nine circles are experiencing sudden blizzard conditions.
Lucifer cited as blaming climate change.
L1151[19:06:16] <Techokami>
hahahaha
L1152[19:06:54] <Temia> But really, good
to hear it. :p
L1154[19:07:15] <Techokami> it is
L1155[19:07:51] <Techokami> now you can
make programs for Windows, Mac, Linux, Android, AND iOS all at
once
L1156[19:07:57] <Techokami> using one
shared codebase
L1157[19:10:09] <Temia> Microsoft's
recent act of codenaming their Ubuntu-sporting Win10 version
"Redstone" made me wonder if it was an allusion to 3E by
referencing Von Braun's work at the Redstone Arsenal (as opposed to
the more topical MC reference most would expect), so
L1158[19:10:17] <Temia> Hearing this
gives me some comfort.
L1159[19:10:44] <Techokami> yeah
L1160[19:11:15] <Techokami> I think it
was the Minecraft material they used for the name :V
L1161[19:12:26] <Temia> Probably.
L1162[19:12:55] <Temia> I'm just a huge
engineering nerd so something else clicked first.
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L1165[19:19:13] <Techokami> man this
Build conference has been insane. Ubuntu on Windows as a
reverse-WINE, XBone development for all, HoloLens demos being open
sourced, a new FOSS chatbot framework, Visual Studio supporting C++
on Linux, and now Xamarin/Mono being put under MIT
L1166[19:26:16] <KittyKath> Techokami:
XBone development for all? How do I have to understand that?
L1167[19:27:38] <Techokami> basically,
any XBox One can become a devkit, and becoming a licensed developer
is... super cheap and easy. One-time $20 registration fee and you
get the magic key to turn your retail unit into a devkit
L1168[19:28:03] <KittyKath> Ah okay
L1169[19:28:10] <Techokami> compared to
other major consoles which charge thousands for dedicated
devkits
L1170[19:28:13] <KittyKath> So no FOSS on
that planned?
L1171[19:29:09] <Techokami> well you can
make your game FOSS, put it on Windows Store as a Universal Windows
Application, and it'll appear on the XBone as a game that can be
played
L1172[19:29:15] <KittyKath> Okay
L1173[19:31:42] <Temia> That's... a
surprising gesture. Not sure if it'll save the Xbone but...
L1174[19:32:50] <Techokami> well, it
means I can make a game for Windows, then effortlessly port it to
XBone and have cross-platform play
L1175[19:33:13] <KittyKath> I'd actually
would really want to see the XBox OS. I assume its a custom blend
of windows but still
L1176[19:33:32] <Techokami> it's a custom
blend of Windows 10
L1177[19:33:35] <gamax92> Everything in
this mod is a plane >_>
L1178[19:33:52] <gamax92> the couches are
just a plane with 0 acceleration and 0 top spee
L1179[19:34:06] <g> yeah, the xbone just
runs w10
L1180[19:34:12] <g> it's just a different
frontend
L1181[19:34:15] <Techokami> yeah
L1182[19:34:23] <Techokami> it runs the
same code
L1183[19:34:32] <Techokami> hence the
"Universal" part
L1184[19:35:25] <gamax92> can I use my
xbone as a standard pc
L1185[19:35:35] <g> well
technically
L1186[19:35:41] <KittyKath> Is it loaded
with all the bloatware a normal Windows comes with? As in AD/LDAP
client, KRB clients, driver manager and all that jazz?
L1187[19:35:44] <g> after the next w10
update you can run anything on the windows store
L1188[19:35:49] <gamax92> what KittyKath
said
L1189[19:36:03] <g> so I presume anything
that UWP supports is present on the xbone
L1190[19:38:51] <g> look at it this
way
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L1192[19:39:01] <g> it's about as
suitable as a desktop replacement as windows 8 RT was
L1193[19:39:23] <g> (Windows 8 RT had no
desktop or desktop-related tools, remember)
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L1195[19:47:31] <snowden89> I like the
idea of universal windows platform?
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L1197[19:47:55] <snowden89> windows 8
style apps should die :P
L1198[19:48:15] <snowden89> defautling to
full screen is just horrible
L1199[19:48:17] <snowden89> ...
L1200[19:48:20] <gamax92> the entire
store is a joke
L1201[19:48:44] <snowden89> I am just
sad. that windows phones died
L1202[19:49:00] <snowden89> i thought i
could toss my windows phone app vomit up there
L1203[19:49:07] <snowden89> and be the
next flappy bird
L1204[19:49:13] <g> they aren't forced
fullscreen on w10
L1205[19:49:16] <g> they're windows
L1206[19:49:24] <g> but on xbone they
would be full screeen I guess
L1207[19:49:27] <snowden89> yeah they
should be in windows 10
L1208[19:49:35] <snowden89> some older
ones override
L1209[19:49:39] <snowden89> and still
full screen
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L1211[19:50:10] <snowden89> also no clue
why people turn the start menu to full screen in windows 10
L1212[19:50:24] <snowden89> everyone of
them complained about the full screen start screen
L1213[19:50:31] <snowden89> so many now
use it still.
L1214[19:50:34] <g> it's nice on
tablets
L1215[19:50:38] <g> otherwise yeah
L1216[19:50:40] <snowden89> not on
tablets
L1217[19:50:45] <snowden89> my actual
customers
L1218[19:50:50] <snowden89> :(
L1219[19:50:53] <snowden89> just
sigh
L1220[19:51:07] <snowden89> can never
please everyone
L1221[19:51:07] <g> also, a lot of the
"core" parts of w10 are also modern apps, or counted as
such
L1222[19:51:13] <g> the start menu
L1223[19:51:14] <g> volume slider
L1224[19:51:15] <snowden89> metro
L1225[19:51:17] <g> notifications..
L1226[19:51:28] <snowden89> i dont so
much mind that
L1227[19:51:44] <g> also main
settings
L1228[19:51:56] <g> there's a problem on
some PCs where you can't open any modern apps
L1229[19:52:07] <snowden89> thats
fixable
L1230[19:52:10] <g> so.. you also can't
open settings, the start menu, volume, notifications..
L1231[19:52:12] <g> yeah, it is
L1232[19:52:15] <g> I've fixed it on my
PC a few times
L1233[19:52:21] <snowden89> its due to
updates installed while your wifi is saving power
L1234[19:52:30] <g> ok no
L1235[19:52:32] <g> it's not that
L1236[19:52:36] <snowden89> from as far
as i have found
L1237[19:52:46] <g> there are two fixes
that I can think of right now
L1238[19:52:52] <g> no, three
L1239[19:52:55] <snowden89> powershell
fix
L1240[19:52:59] <g> that's one of
them
L1241[19:53:00] <snowden89> new
user
L1243[19:53:05] <g> well kinda
L1244[19:53:13] <snowden89> yeah issue
with user profile
L1245[19:53:15] <snowden89> from the
change
L1246[19:53:19] <g> firstly, ensuring
that the administrator user account is active
L1247[19:53:33] <g> secondly, replacing
your tile data directory with one from a working user profile
L1248[19:53:37] <g> and thirdly, yeah,
the powershell fix
L1249[19:54:00] <g> funny story
L1250[19:54:01] <snowden89> found some
bugs in powershell script for windows 10 the second version
L1251[19:54:04] <g> after I did the
powershell fix
L1252[19:54:09] <snowden89> sometimes it
breaks your preinstalled apps
L1253[19:54:10] <g> everything started
working again
L1254[19:54:14] <g> except, for some
reason, the calculator app
L1255[19:54:23] <snowden89> so you need
to run the store fix as well
L1256[19:54:26] <g> I just put myself
back on the fast insider ring today, and, well, it works now
L1257[19:54:51] <snowden89> yeah thats
what i am refering to
L1258[19:55:00] <g> I didn't do that to
fix anything
L1259[19:55:05] <g> I realised that I got
kicked off it at some point
L1261[19:55:08] <g> so I joined it
again
L1262[19:55:19] <snowden89> the
powershell fix breaks default apps
L1263[19:55:24] <snowden89> like mail,
calculator
L1264[19:55:33] <snowden89> or even store
itself
L1265[19:55:43] <snowden89>
sometimes
L1266[19:55:56] <snowden89> which is
becoming the description for windows 10 in our office
L1267[19:56:12] <snowden89> sometimes it
just fails
L1268[19:56:15] <snowden89> lol
L1269[19:56:27] <snowden89> also fucking
hate windows 10 faststartup
L1270[19:56:35] <g> Outside of the metro
stuff, there've been no real problems for me
L1271[19:56:43] <g> nothing I can tie
down to w10 anyway
L1272[19:56:56] <snowden89> well. for my
own PCs
L1273[19:56:59] <snowden89> not one
issue
L1274[19:57:14] <snowden89> but i deal
with the start menu issue 4 times a week
L1275[19:57:30] <snowden89>
laptops/netbooks crawling on windows 10 due to faststartup
L1276[19:57:33] <g> I used to have a
problem where my sound would just stop working
L1277[19:57:36] <g> and I'd have to
reboot
L1278[19:57:41] <g> but in the past month
or so, it's gone away
L1279[19:57:49] <snowden89> woo! rolling
updates
L1280[19:57:51] <snowden89> :P
L1281[19:57:53] <snowden89>
hopefully
L1283[19:58:09] <g> also, I'm not sure
what faststartup is but I assume it's what makes the lockscreen
show up so quickly
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L1285[19:58:50] <g> the actual time
between login and usable PC though, is, well, no improvement from
8
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L1287[19:59:24] <g> ah crap, it's
2am
L1288[19:59:30] <g> I've gotta go, will
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L1290[19:59:34] <gAway2002> sorry
::P
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L1301[20:19:20] <Xilandro> %calc ((20000
/ 60) / 60)
L1302[20:19:22] <MichiBot> Xilandro:
5.55
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L1305[20:37:51] <ThylaComputer> 1.6MB
reporting in!
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L1307[20:39:43] <ThylaComputer> Aww, I
like bears. And mushrooms.
L1308[20:44:57] <Shuudoushi> ...
L1309[20:46:22] <snowden89> ....
L1310[20:46:40] <ThylaComputer> >')
Pac-man eats the dots!
L1311[20:47:27] <snowden89> alas dots are
safe
L1312[20:47:37] <snowden89> he is on the
wrong row
L1314[20:53:26] <Shuudoushi>
s/like/life
L1317[20:56:45] <Xilandro> I'm not really
sure what's going on in that photo
L1318[20:57:03] <Shuudoushi> that's the
inside of my engine...
L1319[20:57:08] <Xilandro> Blech
L1320[20:57:50] <Shuudoushi> Give ya a
hint, not supposed to look like that...
L1321[20:58:03] <Xilandro> No shit
L1322[20:58:18] <Shuudoushi> nor is there
supposed to be any coolant on the pistons even from removing the
head...
L1323[20:59:03] <Shuudoushi> nothing
$218.81 (USD) in parts and an unknown amount on machining can't
fix...
L1324[20:59:31] <Xilandro> I'm just
excited to have a reactor setup that doesn't suck
L1325[20:59:43] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1326[20:59:55] <Xilandro> 420 EU/t, 168M
EU Total, 6 hour runtime
L1328[21:01:56] <MichiBot>
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L1333[21:10:46] <ThylaComputer> I wonder
i I could port Hydlide to an OpenComputer?
L1334[21:11:45] <ThylaComputer> It only
used 256 bytes of RAM, and 1.55KB of ROM.
L1335[21:14:37] <Shuudoushi> hmmm
L1336[21:15:09] <Shuudoushi> I wonder if
a swap partition can be made through Lua, or if it's something that
has to be done through java...
L1337[21:16:29] <ThylaComputer> I don't
see why it can't be done in Lua
L1338[21:16:37] <ThylaComputer> But i'm
more curious of the 'why'?
L1340[21:17:20] <Shuudoushi> ~w
memory
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L1344[21:21:43] <ThylaComputer> I should
find a way to interface OpenComputers with the MIPS4000 CPU
emulator in Magneticraft.
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L1350[21:24:30] <Shuudoushi> Magik6k: I
don't remember, doesn't plan6k use a swap system?
L1351[21:26:46] <Shuudoushi> payo-remote:
you there?
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L1360[21:37:14] <Shuudoushi> oh... I
forgot to update the login script didn't I...
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L1364[21:43:39] <greaser|q>
ThylaComputer: ...there's another MIPS emulator?
L1365[21:44:58] <Shuudoushi> lol, I just
figured out something so simple that I think I lost a few IQ points
over it XD
L1366[21:45:07] <snowden89> woO!
L1367[21:45:12] <snowden89> IQ is over
rated.
L1368[21:46:18] <greaser|q> ...is it
really a MIPS R4000? seems to be MIPS-I, not MIPS-III
L1369[21:46:46] <greaser|q> looking at
mips-emulator anyway, not sure if magneticraft has source
L1370[21:47:05] <greaser|q> on top of
that, diff between add[i] and add[i]u is that add[i] traps, and
add[i]u doesn't
L1371[21:48:24] <greaser|q> ...the
magneticraft thread says it's an R3000. big diff, as R3000 is
MIPS-I
L1373[21:50:18] <Shuudoushi> ooops... I
put the wrong thing in uname...
L1374[21:51:04] <Mimiru> gj
L1375[21:51:24] <Shuudoushi> it's already
fixed -_-
L1376[21:51:43] <Mimiru> Nah, last straw,
pulling SOS..
L1377[21:51:43] <Mimiru> :P
L1379[21:53:44] *
Mimiru shrugs
L1380[21:53:47] <Shuudoushi> oh fuck me
-_-
L1381[21:54:02] <Mimiru> haaa
L1382[21:54:06] <Mimiru> I see it
L1383[21:55:22] <Shuudoushi> one fucking
missing 's', and the whole thing shits itself...
L1384[21:57:00] <ThylaComputer> The
programmer's dilemma.
L1385[21:57:20] <ThylaComputer> That and
the old 'This doesn't work, and I have no idea why.' vs. 'This
works perfectly and I have no idea why.'
L1386[21:57:55] <Shuudoushi> 99% of SOS
right there ^
L1387[21:58:35] <Shuudoushi> there has
been many things that i have done that simply should not have
worked, but it did...
L1388[21:58:46] <Shuudoushi> and still
works for some of this shit :D
L1389[21:58:53] <ThylaComputer> My entire
history with Java.
L1390[21:59:02] <ThylaComputer> And
mechanical engineering for that matter.
L1391[21:59:14] <Shuudoushi> mech eng is
easy though...
L1392[21:59:19] <ThylaComputer> My
coworkers joked that I must be a vodoo priest.
L1393[21:59:25] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1394[21:59:34] <ThylaComputer> No, it's
not easy when you work for skinflints that never buy replacement
parts.
L1395[21:59:42] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1396[21:59:50] <ThylaComputer> That
plant was held together with chewing gum and WD40.
L1397[22:00:00] <Shuudoushi> duct
tape*
L1398[22:00:07] <ThylaComputer> Not
even.
L1399[22:00:17] <ThylaComputer> They kept
buying boxing tape instead.
L1400[22:00:19] <ThylaComputer> Not
kidding.
L1401[22:00:39] <ThylaComputer> They
wouldn't let maintenance buy anything or dictate anything..
L1402[22:00:46] <ThylaComputer> So,
needless to say, creativity was the name of the game.
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L1404[22:01:38] <Shuudoushi> I should
find that NASA mechanical troubleshooting flow chart again
>.>
L1405[22:03:11] <Shuudoushi> something
like: "Does it move? yes: Is it supposed to move? no: Duct
tape." Does it move? no: Is it supposed to move? yes:
WD40." lol
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L1407[22:06:21] <Shuudoushi>
ThylaComputer: scratch out 'aircraft' and there you go
L1411[22:13:10] <Shuudoushi> there,
nothing to scratch out, just print it and post it int he brake room
or something lol
L1412[22:13:26] <greaser|q> basically,
most immediate ops are broken
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L1414[22:13:58] <greaser|q> i don't know
how you program the computers in magneticraft unfortunately as i've
never used it
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L1419[22:26:11] <payo-remote> woah,
stderr is nil?
L1420[22:26:21] <payo-remote> that not
good
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L1422[22:27:07] <Shuudoushi> I figured
out the issue >.>
L1423[22:27:23] <Shuudoushi> 03_io.lua
didn't download due to a 503 error
L1424[22:27:47] <Shuudoushi> but wget
removed the file anyway, you may want to add some built in
protection for that payo-remote
L1425[22:28:12] <payo-remote> um
L1427[22:28:26] <payo-remote> i need to
build protection from files being deleted?!
L1428[22:28:50] <Shuudoushi> from wget
deleting the files due to url errors
L1429[22:29:14] <payo-remote> oh, wget
isn't mine
L1430[22:29:16] <payo-remote> but
yeah
L1431[22:29:23] <Shuudoushi> I know
L1432[22:29:26] <payo-remote> wget is
part of the internet card
L1433[22:29:42] <Shuudoushi> oh
yeah
L1434[22:29:55] <payo-remote> but yes,
you have a good suggestion
L1435[22:30:01] <payo-remote> heck, open
a ticket!
L1436[22:30:12] <Shuudoushi> I mostly
just figured that b/c you were messing with OOS, you might be able
to take care of it
L1437[22:30:23] <payo-remote> i could
:)
L1438[22:30:30] <payo-remote> it's just
outside openos
L1439[22:30:33] <payo-remote> but yes, i
could
L1440[22:32:10] <payo-remote> btw, doom
officially on steam now for pre purchase
L1441[22:32:12] <payo-remote> may
13th
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L1444[22:35:17] <Shuudoushi> just updated
the OP
L1445[22:36:33] <Shuudoushi> looks like
my work on SOS is at a stand still for tonight...
L1446[22:36:51] <Shuudoushi> or at least
till github stops loosing its shit...
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L1448[22:50:38] <snowden89> Shuudoushi:
whats github doing?
L1449[22:50:50] <Shuudoushi> 503ing
L1450[22:51:02] <snowden89> kind of
thinking of moving all my random shit to bitbucket
L1451[22:51:03] <Shuudoushi> at
random
L1452[22:51:05] <snowden89>
recently
L1453[22:51:16] <snowden89> mainly due to
the default public
L1454[22:52:05] <snowden89> can you
delete stuff of github?
L1455[22:52:16] <Shuudoushi> ofc
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L1466[23:37:17] <gamax92> Tomorrow is
yearly no internet day
L1467[23:37:25] <asie> gamax92: It
already began
L1468[23:37:27] <asie> It already began
on March 31st
L1469[23:37:31] <asie> so yesterday
L1470[23:37:43] <asie> everything is
burning
L1471[23:37:49] <gamax92> oh
alright
L1472[23:37:52] <gamax92> still
though
L1473[23:37:52] <asie> and, if my senses
are right
L1474[23:38:02] <asie> the real drama is
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