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L19[01:47:11] <SoraFirestorm> bleh, night all o/
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L38[05:37:38] <coolretrokid> Cool retro term is awesome.
L39[05:37:51] <coolretrokid> Irssi looks really really cool in it.
L40[05:38:14] <coolretrokid> Burn in effect and everything.
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L42[05:40:15] <vifino> Too sad that you can't have colors and everything is monochrome.
L43[05:42:27] <vifino> I like checking my mail on that terminal.
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L45[06:01:02] <Lizzy> CompanionCube: whats up?
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L47[06:11:14] <Inari> soooo
L48[06:11:31] <Inari> anyone got any idea how interfaces work? :D like say, my 3ds card has like 20 pins
L49[06:11:36] <Inari> how is that being used o.o
L50[06:14:52] <Inari> or in general, say i have a thermometer, or a range scanner, how does ti usually transfer its data?
L51[06:15:21] <vifino> electricity
L52[06:15:27] <Inari> orly
L53[06:15:27] <Inari> :P
L54[06:15:31] <vifino> yarly
L55[06:16:07] <vifino> Inari: protocols
L56[06:16:13] <Inari> x.x
L57[06:16:24] <Inari> yeah but im wondering what those tend to be like :P
L58[06:16:32] <vifino> like 1-wire, i2c, CANBUS (car), etc
L59[06:17:01] <Inari> like for a thermometer, it might output a voltage to indicate temperature, or maybe a digital signal? if digital then hows that encoded? serial? parallel with each pin being the value of a bit in a single?
L60[06:17:41] <vifino> How many pins do the thermometer probes have?
L61[06:17:42] <vifino> 3?
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L63[06:17:47] <Inari> no clue
L64[06:17:47] <Inari> :P
L65[06:17:48] <vifino> Could be 1-wire.
L66[06:18:01] <vifino> It'S often used with thermoprobes.
L67[06:18:25] <vifino> i2c is usually used for more common sensors.
L68[06:18:45] <Inari> okay, will look into those :3 tanks
L69[06:18:47] <Inari> *thanks
L70[06:19:07] <vifino> No problem.
L71[06:19:16] <Inari> need to gather info to simulate sensor input in my game :P
L72[06:19:43] <vifino> i2c is also used in arrays of sensors and stuff like that. You can just chain the i2c lines and it'll JustWork(tm)
L73[06:20:48] <vifino> If you had to choose a bus for all your things, it would most likely be i2c.
L74[06:21:09] <vifino> You can get eeproms, flash, sensors, expanders, displays, etc..
L75[06:21:13] <vifino> everything, literally.
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L77[06:22:38] <Inari> hmm
L78[06:22:44] <Inari> then migth use i2c
L79[06:22:49] <Inari> or mgith just use i2c for some
L80[06:22:53] <Inari> 1-wire for others, and so on :P
L81[06:23:09] <Inari> maybe also selfmade protocls \o/
L82[06:24:18] <vifino> Though, to be honest, for the most part, sensors are just plain resistance, the controller interpreting them. :P
L83[06:25:03] <Inari> :P
L84[06:25:06] <Inari> hm
L85[06:25:14] <Inari> so analogu einput rather than digital?
L86[06:25:22] <Inari> and non-binary
L87[06:25:23] <Inari> :P
L88[06:25:40] <vifino> Yes.
L89[06:27:03] <Inari> hmmm
L90[06:27:25] <Inari> well but some things are probably already interpreted once you get them
L91[06:27:34] <Inari> like, laser distnace measurements
L92[06:27:52] <vifino> That's most likely over 1-wire or i2c then.
L93[06:28:04] <vifino> There are dumb and smart sensors, ya know?
L94[06:28:04] <Inari> or like the software for a car's proximity warning proabbyl doesnt get the raw signal :P
L95[06:28:25] <vifino> Buuuut that's completely different. That's over CANBUS.
L96[06:28:29] <Inari> haha
L97[06:28:51] <vifino> CANBUS is the car subsystem protocol/connector setup.
L98[06:29:07] <Inari> yeah but i still believe it would get an interpreted version of teh signal at least
L99[06:29:20] <vifino> If you have access to the CANBUS, you can pretty much control the whole car.
L100[06:29:35] <Inari> sounds like not so great a concept :P
L101[06:29:36] <vifino> Including steering and motor control.
L102[06:29:36] <Inari> security wise
L103[06:30:04] <vifino> Inari: Damn right.
L104[06:32:08] <Inari> hm
L105[06:32:10] <Inari> so much to look at
L106[06:32:11] <Inari> D:
L107[06:32:30] <Inari> and well ill just randomize whcih things send wihch kind of data :P but still some things will be limited to certani types
L108[06:32:38] <vifino> .-.
L109[06:32:54] <vifino> Unless you are in a car, you can remove CANBUS from the list.
L110[06:33:14] <vifino> Unless it's something simple like a thermometer probe, you can also remove 1-wire.
L111[06:33:28] <vifino> Same for analogue sensors.
L112[06:33:30] <Inari> well thermometers migth have 1-wire or i2c
L113[06:33:43] <Inari> some analogue sensors
L114[06:33:45] <vifino> Most likely 1-wire.
L115[06:33:56] <vifino> At least newer ones.
L116[06:33:56] <Inari> but the broad of them will use already interpreted digital signals i guess
L117[06:34:05] <vifino> 1-wire is digital....
L118[06:34:08] <Inari> like dunno what a laser system woudl send as taht :P
L119[06:34:14] <Inari> a float? xD
L120[06:34:25] <vifino> .-.
L121[06:34:31] <Inari> wat
L122[06:34:54] <vifino> I just remembered why I don't want to be a teacher.
L123[06:34:56] <vifino> .-.
L124[06:34:59] <Inari> haha
L125[06:35:03] <Inari> well what would it send? :P
L126[06:35:33] <vifino> a value apropriate to the bus and the sub protocol.
L127[06:35:45] <Inari> sure
L128[06:35:52] <vifino> since i2c is just a bus and addressing, the actual data can be whatever the fuck you want.
L129[06:35:59] <Inari> sure
L130[06:36:06] <Inari> so likely a float or double :P since distance
L131[06:36:22] <Inari> or maybe a single, i dont knwo
L132[06:36:34] <vifino> We're talking hardware, Inari. There are just bits.
L133[06:36:35] <vifino> q_q
L134[06:36:40] <Inari> orly
L135[06:36:44] <Inari> but they are still encoded some way
L136[06:36:54] <vifino> don't have to be.
L137[06:36:58] <Inari> uh
L138[06:37:11] <Inari> kind of have to be, because a stream of arbitrary bits is kind of useless to anyone using the system
L139[06:37:19] <vifino> Literally, you can do whatever the fuck you want on i2c.
L140[06:37:23] <Inari> unless you're trying to use it as a random seed giver
L141[06:37:30] <Inari> sure
L142[06:37:42] <Inari> but lets say i buy some laser measureing thingy thats supposed to give me the distance via i2c
L143[06:37:47] <Inari> iw ill have some encoding that makes sense
L144[06:37:47] <Inari> :P
L145[06:38:03] <vifino> Yes, probably.
L146[06:38:11] <vifino> But, again, they don't have to.
L147[06:39:31] <vifino> For exampe LED strips, they aren't controlled by random numbers. By some of them, each bit in a byte are specific values/tweakables.
L148[06:39:46] <Inari> yeah
L149[06:39:52] <Inari> this'll be fun
L150[06:39:53] <Inari> :P
L151[06:39:56] <Inari> i2c soudns good though
L152[06:40:03] <Inari> since it can just send stuff without having to specify a format
L153[06:40:09] <vifino> It is, because it's simple and gets it's job done.
L154[06:40:42] <Inari> on the flipside
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L156[06:40:51] <Inari> it sounds kind of hard to send control commands to the hardware
L157[06:40:55] <Inari> if you dont know the encoding :P
L158[06:41:06] <vifino> Inari: Think of it like ethernet/ip kinda deal. You send packets adressed to specific devices in the chain.
L159[06:41:22] <vifino> That's what datasheets are for, Inari.
L160[06:41:51] <Inari> hmm i guess i could at least specify how many bits a thing is capable of receiving
L161[06:41:55] <Inari> or would that be easy to figure out
L162[06:42:32] <Inari> well with those leds
L163[06:42:40] <Inari> you couldgo through the bits to see what changes :P
L164[06:42:51] <vifino> Inari: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%C2%B2C
L165[06:42:54] <vifino> You're welcome.
L166[06:42:58] <Inari> haha
L167[06:43:09] <Inari> yeah was trying to read up on this :P but then was conversating with you here
L168[06:43:25] <Inari> sounds great though :3
L169[06:43:28] <Inari> some basis to work on xD
L170[06:44:03] <vifino> Also, read up on 1-wire.
L171[06:44:07] <Inari> will do
L172[06:44:25] <vifino> Just looked at the wikipedia pages for both i2c and 1-wire, both look decent.
L173[06:45:00] <vifino> 1-Wire even has a small picture as example of the wire protocol.
L174[06:45:51] <vifino> Also, 1-Wire wikipedia article states that there are only two wires involved, but most setups do actually use a seperate voltage line.
L175[06:46:01] <vifino> or at least some.
L176[06:46:11] <Inari> whys it called 1-wire :P
L177[06:47:04] <vifino> Because 1 wire does the actual communication.
L178[06:47:13] <vifino> But you also need ground for current to flow.
L179[06:47:35] <vifino> Then you also want to power the other side, which you can do with the data line, but some just use a seperate line.
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L187[07:50:17] <Inari> vifino: any idea what curiosity uses?
L188[07:53:58] <vifino> Inari: What?
L189[07:54:30] <Inari> well its a rover
L190[07:54:37] <Inari> it has to use some bus system fro communicating between its devices
L191[07:57:01] <vifino> Either proprietary or maybe even i2c, even though it may be unreliable, it is simple, so not much which can break.
L192[07:57:20] <Inari> http://imgur.com/fH9vWI7
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L196[08:30:00] <vifino> lol, my switch thought it'd be in 2017.
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L204[08:41:07] <Antheus> I had a tream that DeanIsAKitty was some old man that lived across the street from me
L205[08:44:20] <vifino> Wow, you are mean to poor KittyKath.
L206[08:45:16] <Antheus> All because I went outside to see what using '||' in a lua interperter would do
L207[08:45:52] <Antheus> old man pulled out of driveway with a Utah license plate that said "Dean4Devil" as the number thingy
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L212[09:10:23] <Kodos> Gewd morning
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L216[09:27:49] <Inari> Antheus: lol
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L219[09:47:12] <Inari> onewire is nice :o
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L222[10:03:05] <Inari> i2c is also nice
L223[10:03:54] <vifino> i2c is nicer.
L224[10:04:05] <Inari> a mix of 2 is the best
L225[10:04:10] <Inari> with some arbitrary analogue singals put in
L226[10:04:10] <Inari> :p
L227[10:04:18] <vifino> q_q
L228[10:04:21] <Inari> lol
L229[10:04:25] <Inari> on different datalines though
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L231[10:04:45] <Inari> so
L232[10:04:50] <Inari> i have some random device on i2c
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L234[10:05:08] <Inari> how to i figure out how to talk to it? :P just randomly try bytes till something happens?
L235[10:05:28] <Izaya> cue explosion
L236[10:08:37] <vifino> Inari: datasheet.
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L238[10:10:56] <vifino> waitwaitwait
L239[10:11:09] <vifino> OpenWRT's snapshots are back online! \o/
L240[10:11:46] <vifino> brb, long needed firmware update
L241[10:11:47] <Antheus> Good mewning, Kodos
L242[10:18:49] <Antheus> .p
L243[10:18:50] <^v4> Ping reply from Antheus 0.7s
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L246[10:24:07] <Inari> vifino: i said random device
L247[10:24:10] <Inari> i aint got not datasheet
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L254[11:08:42] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd0gJriW4AAjNac.jpg wat
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L258[11:42:47] <gamax92> mornin
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L260[11:44:19] <Ajloveslily> https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/4az1uf/redstone_challangeinfo_in_comments/ my head
L261[11:44:48] <Inari> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cd0i-P5UUAEntBo.jpg:large cute
L262[11:45:24] <Inari> Ajloveslily: uh
L263[11:45:26] <Inari> am i missing something
L264[11:45:53] <Ajloveslily> Inari, how do
L265[11:46:08] <Inari> how do what
L266[11:46:18] <Ajloveslily> what's in the pic
L267[11:46:39] <Inari> by using comparators? :D
L268[11:46:46] <Ajloveslily> wat
L269[11:51:25] <Inari> Ajloveslily: probably using one of the stupid redstone bugs
L270[11:51:28] <Inari> like piston update glitches
L271[11:51:37] <Ajloveslily> idk
L272[11:52:10] <Sangar> o/
L273[11:52:16] <Ajloveslily> o/
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L277[12:01:54] <gamax92> A child is doomed with taking care of her mother, they went through a divorce and now her mother is staying in a dark room, mumbling to herself
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L279[12:02:32] <gamax92> The child would make and provide meals for her, opening the door a little bit and sliding the meals in
L280[12:03:08] <gamax92> She'd hear the mother take the food, smiling that she was helping take care of her mother
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L282[12:03:41] <gamax92> After a certain day, her mother stopped taking meals entirely, but when the child peeked into the room, she could still see her mother, and would still provide meals
L283[12:03:53] <Izaya> this can't end happily
L284[12:04:39] <gamax92> More time passes, and the mother is just silent, sitting there in the corner of the dark room, the child kept putting meals in, hoping she'd eventually eat again
L285[12:05:25] <gamax92> Her mother ended up fleeing, and the child was forced to move, now that her mother was missing. She thought about cleaning the house up, but it was so full of garbage, she left it alone.
L286[12:05:32] <Lizzy> %seen CompanionCube
L287[12:05:33] <MichiBot> Lizzy: CompanionCube was last seen 16h 6m 3s ago.
L288[12:05:42] <gamax92> That was from the perspective of the child, what actually happened to the mother?
L289[12:05:44] <CompanionCube> yes?
L290[12:06:43] <Ajloveslily> does someone need a hug gamax92
L291[12:06:51] <gamax92> nope
L292[12:07:01] <Ajloveslily> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ getting one anyways
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L294[12:08:09] <Lizzy> CompanionCube: you asked if I was away shortly after I went to bed
L295[12:08:32] <CompanionCube> Lizzy, I was just curious about your opinion on the tories education fuckery
L296[12:13:00] <Lizzy> I don't keep up with politics
L297[12:13:22] <gamax92> The mother was devastated by the divorce which caused her to lose the will to live, so she sat herself in the dark room to starve
L298[12:14:06] <gamax92> The mother was not actually eating at all, but simply sliding the food off somewhere else, where it'd sit and collect bugs, making her child think she was still eating.
L299[12:14:48] <Izaya> oops it's 4 AM
L300[12:14:49] <gamax92> She eventually died and started to decompose, with the aid from all the bugs that were already there
L301[12:15:28] <gamax92> The child only thought her mother was still there, since she could peek into the room and vaguely see her mother's form in the darkness
L302[12:16:22] <gamax92> When her mother "fled", she had actually decomposed beyond recognition, and her child could no longer identify her. The best she up with is that her mother must have ran away
L303[12:16:49] <gamax92> All the garbage in the house, was just her rotting mother, the bugs, and all the rotting food.
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L305[12:24:34] <SoraFirestorm> o/
L306[12:24:43] <gamax92> SoraFirestorm: hi, you missed story time
L307[12:24:49] <SoraFirestorm> aww :(
L308[12:26:19] <Izaya> was not a happy story
L309[12:26:36] <SoraFirestorm> that's moderately depressing
L310[12:26:40] <SoraFirestorm> not sure I want to know
L311[12:27:07] <Lizzy> HTTP://oclogs.pc-logix.com
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L327[14:18:31] <SoraFirestorm> I finally actually read through the log
L328[14:18:33] <SoraFirestorm> wish I hadn't
L329[14:18:36] <SoraFirestorm> damn you gamax92 :P
L330[14:18:49] <gamax92> god dammit, brb changing passwords on everything.
L331[14:20:47] <CompanionCube> https://motherboard.vice.com/read/one-star
L332[14:20:54] <CompanionCube> they make a very good point
L333[14:20:56] <CompanionCube> Izaya, ^
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L338[14:27:42] <Izaya> CompanionCube: that was great
L339[14:28:27] <CompanionCube> it really raises some important questions imho
L340[14:29:10] <Izaya> yeah
L341[14:29:19] <Kasen> interesting read
L342[14:29:41] <Kasen> sounds like something that should be on my kindle
L343[14:32:07] <CompanionCube> although
L344[14:32:16] <CompanionCube> in the article one could just go near to the house
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L346[14:34:29] <alekso56> omg ban drones immediatly :oooo
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L348[14:53:36] <Michiyo> That was a neat read...
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L352[14:57:38] <SoraFirestorm> lololol
L353[14:57:46] <SoraFirestorm> "What pronoun would you prefer I use?"
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L357[14:58:53] <alekso56> Even the car has given up.
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L374[15:59:30] <Kodos> #lua return 1 / 16
L375[15:59:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.0625
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L383[16:21:51] <Vexatos> Hi guys
L384[16:21:53] <Vexatos> I am back
L385[16:21:55] <SoraFirestorm> hiya Vexatos
L386[16:21:55] <Vexatos> :D
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L390[16:47:11] <Kodos> Stardew Valley looks fun as fuck
L391[16:47:19] <gamax92> it is a great game
L392[16:47:24] <gamax92> 10/10 would recommend
L393[16:47:28] <SoraFirestorm> it looks hella good
L394[16:47:36] <Kodos> I forget which games I have left to trade with
L395[16:47:48] <SoraFirestorm> anyone playing on Linux?
L396[16:48:19] <Kodos> Ah, still have one TL2, and a God Mode
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L398[16:57:56] <gamax92> Hopefully the nightmare stops now ...
L399[16:58:17] <vifino> gamax92!
L400[16:58:49] <gamax92> hello vifino.
L401[16:58:59] * vifino hugs gamax92
L402[17:00:12] * gamax92 hugs vifino back
L403[17:07:16] * Kodos hugs everyone except Gavle and MajGenRelativity
L404[17:07:29] <SoraFirestorm> aww!
L405[17:07:33] * SoraFirestorm hugs back
L406[17:29:16] <MajGenRelativity> Kodos, I understand not hugging me, but what did Gavle do?
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L409[17:35:32] <Meowcat285> hey guys!
L410[17:35:38] <Meowcat285> ???
L411[17:35:42] <MajGenRelativity> hello Meowcat285
L412[17:35:49] <Meowcat285> how are you?
L413[17:36:18] <Meowcat285> hello?
L414[17:36:23] <Meowcat285> you even there?
L415[17:36:28] <Meowcat285> i need some help
L416[17:36:33] <Kodos> What can we do for you
L417[17:37:04] <Meowcat285> well, when i try and boot my custom os for this it says that init.lua is invalid
L418[17:37:10] <Meowcat285> why is it doing that?
L419[17:37:21] <Kodos> You likely still have the init.lua for default OpenOS
L420[17:37:25] <Kodos> If you have a custom OS, you'll need to make your own
L421[17:37:29] <Meowcat285> i did
L422[17:37:38] <Meowcat285> i did make my own
L423[17:37:49] <Kodos> Do you have your custom OS on Github or somewhere where we can read over the code, and see what the issue is?
L424[17:38:00] <Meowcat285> no sorry
L425[17:38:03] <Techokami> oh dang, MCP and Forge for Minecraft 1.9 :O
L426[17:38:11] <Techokami> OpenComputers port when
L427[17:38:18] <Meowcat285> soon
L428[17:38:20] <Kodos> Techokami, late to the party, there are a few mods already
L429[17:38:38] <Techokami> sorry, I was busy at work today
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L431[17:39:09] <Meowcat285> are any mods on?
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L433[17:40:13] <Kodos> Herpderp I need help but I can't give you any details whatsoever
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L435[17:40:49] <Meowcat285> back
L436[17:40:52] <Meowcat285> lol
L437[17:40:56] <Meowcat285> lua error
L438[17:41:25] <Meowcat285> but my computer setup (in here) is BOSS
L439[17:42:13] <Meowcat285> brb
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L441[17:52:25] <g> is there any kind of opencomputers integration with ic2 reactors?
L442[17:52:39] <Kodos> Yes
L443[17:52:46] <Kodos> With Exp, at least
L444[17:53:03] <g> the oc wiki page states experimental and classic
L445[17:53:09] <g> but the oc cables don't connect to the reactor
L446[17:53:16] <g> should I use an adapter here?
L447[17:53:16] <Kodos> You still need an adapter
L448[17:53:19] <g> ah, okay
L449[17:53:36] <Kodos> If you use OpenPrinter, and want a good example of IC2 reactor interaction, use this https://pastebin.com/rjFduUMV
L450[17:54:09] <Kodos> timeapi can be found at https://pastebin.com/p6WyTdN2
L451[17:54:48] <g> got it, thanks
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L453[17:57:40] <g> what char is it again to get the lua prompr to print out a returned value?
L454[17:57:51] <g> prompt*
L455[17:58:06] <gamax92> =
L456[17:58:08] <vifino> =
L457[17:58:28] <g> ding
L458[17:58:29] <g> thanks
L459[17:59:50] <Kodos> or just use return beforehand
L460[18:00:40] <Lizzy> aww, vifino fell asleep :(
L461[18:00:52] * Lizzy carries vifino to bed
L462[18:06:35] * vifino wiggles and hugs Lizzy tightly
L463[18:11:48] * Lizzy hugs vifino back
L464[18:18:12] * vifino yawns loudly and looks at Lizzy
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L466[18:20:14] * Lizzy carries vifino back to bed
L467[18:20:40] <vifino> woo
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L481[18:40:23] <SoraFirestorm> thunderbird saves the day woo
L482[18:41:10] <gamax92> SoraFirestorm: ?
L483[18:41:54] <SoraFirestorm> deleted a buttload of spam
L484[18:42:08] <SoraFirestorm> I generally do that from my phone
L485[18:42:17] <SoraFirestorm> but 300+ was a bit much to handle :P
L486[18:57:10] <Sandra> heck yeah, phone just popped up with android 6.0.
L487[18:57:19] <SoraFirestorm> Sandra: neat
L488[18:57:25] <SoraFirestorm> oh hey gamax92
L489[18:57:30] <SoraFirestorm> not sure if I asked you
L490[18:57:54] <SoraFirestorm> Do pointers in memory stay valid between saving and loading computer memory in OC?
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L492[19:08:51] <Turtle> ugh. I added a debuglib to luaJ to interrupt stuff and now stuff will interrupt without it being added in too
L493[19:09:38] <v^> Turtle, first mistake: LuaJ
L494[19:10:09] <Turtle> technically, yes, I suppose I got karma'd for using it
L495[19:10:23] <Turtle> but I really get annoyed at the 'fix something, undo fix, thing is still fixed' situation
L496[19:10:48] <SoraFirestorm> woo big repo clones :D
L497[19:10:54] <gamax92> SoraFirestorm: the linux kernel
L498[19:11:00] <SoraFirestorm> I've done that one before
L499[19:11:02] <SoraFirestorm> but that's not it
L500[19:11:05] <SoraFirestorm> GNU Emacs
L501[19:11:07] <gamax92> heh
L502[19:11:23] <CompanionCube> what are you cloning emacs for
L503[19:11:44] <SoraFirestorm> Going to make a change to the builtin terminal emulator
L504[19:11:51] <SoraFirestorm> then hopefully submit the patch back upstream
L505[19:12:49] <CompanionCube> do you mean term-mode
L506[19:12:56] <SoraFirestorm> ansi-term
L507[19:13:07] <SoraFirestorm> dunno is they are ==
L508[19:13:13] <SoraFirestorm> s/is/if/
L509[19:13:15] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> dunno if they are ==
L510[19:13:31] <gamax92> forgot what I was doing ...
L511[19:13:32] <SoraFirestorm> ansi-term is an interactive autoloaded compiled Lisp function in `term.el'.
L512[19:13:32] <SoraFirestorm>
L513[19:13:44] <SoraFirestorm> that's where my changes are going at anyrate
L514[19:13:47] <CompanionCube> ah
L515[19:13:54] <SoraFirestorm> clone finished
L516[19:13:57] <SoraFirestorm> yay
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L518[19:14:14] <SoraFirestorm> so, familiar with VT100 control sequences?
L519[19:16:26] <SoraFirestorm> there's a directive to make text bold in the control language
L520[19:16:56] <SoraFirestorm> on most terminal emulators I've seen, the bold directive also picks a brighter version of the underlying color to display
L521[19:17:07] <SoraFirestorm> ansi-term does not
L522[19:17:39] <SoraFirestorm> This kinda breaks some programs that expect the full '16 color' palette
L523[19:17:57] <SoraFirestorm> htop is an example
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L525[19:18:16] <gamax92> SoraFirestorm: \x18[m ?
L526[19:18:52] <SoraFirestorm> if 0x18 is ASCII ESC, then yeah
L527[19:19:04] <SoraFirestorm> I don't actually know offhand
L528[19:19:05] <gamax92> you set bold/bright by adding a 1 to that
L529[19:19:12] <SoraFirestorm> right
L530[19:19:23] <SoraFirestorm> ansi-term makes it bold text
L531[19:19:26] <SoraFirestorm> but does not change the color
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L535[19:35:10] <SoraFirestorm> there's a lot to build in Emacs 0.0
L536[19:35:26] <SoraFirestorm> not exactly a surprise, mind you
L537[19:35:28] <SoraFirestorm> but still
L538[19:35:28] <SoraFirestorm> wow
L539[19:36:15] <CompanionCube> well
L540[19:36:29] <CompanionCube> it does include the elisp interpreter...and ~1 million or so lines of elisp code
L541[19:36:37] <SoraFirestorm> right
L542[19:36:48] <SoraFirestorm> most of what's building now is precompiling the elisp
L543[19:36:56] <SoraFirestorm> the C bits are long done
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L545[19:40:08] <JTJSniperBee> epic music located
L546[19:40:11] <SoraFirestorm> :/
L547[19:40:21] <SoraFirestorm> "Your Emacs was not compile with xwidgets support"
L548[19:40:27] <SoraFirestorm> that's disappointing
L549[19:40:46] <SoraFirestorm> I would have figured it would have tried to build with everything
L550[19:40:48] <SoraFirestorm> meh
L551[19:41:00] <JTJSniperBee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eEziNdIvD8
L552[19:41:02] <MichiBot> [Drumstep] - Pegboard Nerds & Grabbitz - All Alone [Monstercat Release] | length: 4m 7s | Likes: 14385 Dislikes: 164 Views: 194623 | by Monstercat
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L555[19:44:52] <greaser|q> i'd love to hear Grammatik make a remix of that
L556[19:45:10] <greaser|q> oh right now we get to the drumnbassstep bit
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L558[19:45:26] <greaser|q> still i find it a little... flat
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L561[19:51:35] <greaser|q> to be blunt i much prefer this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UINhE8L1yXg
L562[19:51:36] <MichiBot> pendulum fasten your seatbelts | length: 9m 38s | Likes: 39265 Dislikes: 852 Views: 8465206 | by twkmedia
L563[19:51:57] <greaser|q> one of their better tracks
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L576[20:18:11] <SoraFirestorm> htop is still broken with my bold patch applied :(
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L580[20:21:22] <CompanionCube> SoraFirestorm, so
L581[20:21:32] <CompanionCube> someone implemented an elisp reader....in pure elisp
L582[20:21:33] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/mishoo/elisp-reader.el
L583[20:21:44] <SoraFirestorm> probably means that htop is actually sending 9x/10x codes
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L613[20:21:52] <SoraFirestorm> which would make things complicated
L614[20:21:57] <^v> Oh noes! chaos split 3:
L615[20:22:41] <SoraFirestorm> why would you do that
L616[20:22:43] <SoraFirestorm> seriuosly
L617[20:22:45] <SoraFirestorm> I don't get it
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L650[20:22:53] <EnderBot2> Ohai there Lizzy
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L654[20:32:12] <SoraFirestorm> I'd really rather not interpret the 9x/10x color range either
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L656[20:34:14] <SoraFirestorm> just for kicks, though...
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L669[21:10:02] <Xilandro> o/
L670[21:11:12] <Izaya> \o
L671[21:11:19] <SoraFirestorm> \o/
L672[21:23:59] <SoraFirestorm> CompanionCube: ooooh
L673[21:24:05] <SoraFirestorm> I actually looked at it just now
L674[21:24:14] <SoraFirestorm> it allows for implementing reader macros
L675[21:24:16] <SoraFirestorm> that's neat
L676[21:24:26] <SoraFirestorm> wonder why you can't do reader macros in std elisp...
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L682[22:42:23] <greaser|q> best thing about listening to pendulum songs on youtube is the flamewars in the comments because of where each track has been used
L683[22:44:53] <greaser|q> TIL you can basically ruin a brony convention by playing ALMOST ANY SONG by pendulum
L684[22:45:17] <greaser|q> because SOMEONE has used it in some shit
L685[22:46:56] <greaser|q> wait, "still grey" seems to be completely unused in that shit
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L690[23:14:30] <{}> http://i.imgur.com/rQC4lUj.png
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L696[23:40:07] <flappy> greaser|q: lolwhat
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L700[23:53:06] <SF-MC> holy hell
L701[23:53:10] <SF-MC> oh
L702[23:54:02] <SF-MC> recurrent complex is so neat <3
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L705[23:55:59] <SF-MC> Uncle?
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