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L5[00:06:16] <Kodos> ~w sides
L6[00:06:16] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:sides
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L8[00:08:05] <Kodos> What the hell, Agricraft
L9[00:09:40] <Kodos> Anyone mess with the computer controlled seed analyzer?
L10[00:12:30] <VanillaBean> i have
L11[00:12:36] <VanillaBean> right now
L12[00:12:48] <Kodos> I got it
L13[00:13:01] <VanillaBean> just fixed my double event problem
L14[00:13:02] <Kodos> Turns out, the direction parameters need north, south, east, or west as a string, in all caps
L15[00:13:10] <VanillaBean> yep
L16[00:13:26] <SoraFirestorm> wtf
L17[00:13:28] <SoraFirestorm> srsly
L18[00:13:29] <VanillaBean> you making a supercropper too?
L19[00:13:49] <Kodos> No, I just like anything I can use with OC
L20[00:14:09] <Kodos> I prefer Pam's and Agri over Forestry
L21[00:14:28] <Kodos> I'd like to get a working version of MineChem, but meh
L22[00:15:20] <VanillaBean> SoraFirestorm, I had to reconfigure the blocks around my robot
L23[00:22:09] <SoraFirestorm> ah
L24[00:26:03] <lperkins2> hm, probably need to strip the kernel even more, it's at 5MB and still takes forever to start...
L25[00:26:10] <snowden89> VanillaBean:
L26[00:26:15] <snowden89> what was the issue?
L27[00:26:28] <snowden89> what was causing the doubleevents?
L28[00:27:47] <lperkins2> looped network
L29[00:28:05] <SoraFirestorm> lperkins2:
L30[00:28:12] <SoraFirestorm> [Sora@SoraLaptop ~] $ du -sh /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
L31[00:28:12] <SoraFirestorm> 5.9M /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.4-301.fc23.x86_64
L32[00:28:12] <SoraFirestorm>
L33[00:28:20] <SoraFirestorm> how much smaller could you need? :P
L34[00:30:24] <VanillaBean> yeah it seems that if the robot is adjacent to computer network in any way it receives events multiple times
L35[00:30:33] <SoraFirestorm> except
L36[00:30:44] <SoraFirestorm> they don't touch sides
L37[00:30:53] <VanillaBean> ?
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L39[00:31:06] <SoraFirestorm> robots can't use sided components
L40[00:31:11] <SoraFirestorm> internal or bust
L41[00:31:24] <SoraFirestorm> ~w robot
L42[00:31:24] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:robot
L43[00:31:54] <SoraFirestorm> s/api/block/
L44[00:31:55] <MichiBot> <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/block:robot
L45[00:31:56] <VanillaBean> right, well, just saying what seemed to be the issue and what seemed to fix it
L46[00:32:04] <SoraFirestorm> "They can not interact with external components, however! If you need to communicate with a computer or other robots,"
L47[00:32:14] <SoraFirestorm> quoted a little more than I needed
L48[00:32:28] <SoraFirestorm> but it still stands that sided components weren't the issue
L49[00:33:20] <VanillaBean> yeah but even if it was next to a cable it would get multiple
L50[00:33:34] <SoraFirestorm> meh
L51[00:33:38] <SoraFirestorm> not going to argue about it
L52[00:33:45] <VanillaBean> i don't know what the issue was then
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L54[00:35:23] <VanillaBean> could think of it as "get to the bottom" instead of argue
L55[00:37:07] <lperkins2> um, better question sora
L56[00:37:36] <lperkins2> er, guess mine is 6.2M
L57[00:37:45] <lperkins2> initrd is 500kb
L58[00:37:56] <lperkins2> answer is as much smaller as I can get it
L59[00:38:18] <lperkins2> it has a serial device and a pc speaker and a minimal vga card
L60[00:38:25] <lperkins2> I don't need anything else for drivers
L61[00:38:49] <Kodos> I really like having a printer :32
L62[00:38:52] <Kodos> :3*
L63[00:39:27] <SoraFirestorm> idk
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L65[00:39:36] <SoraFirestorm> VanillaBean: I'm not sure what went wrong
L66[00:39:49] <SoraFirestorm> Not familiar with the mod in quesiton
L67[00:42:57] <SoraFirestorm> Kodos: 'kinda printer?
L68[00:43:02] <Kodos> OpenPrinter :3
L69[00:43:10] <SoraFirestorm> that's what I thought
L70[00:43:19] <SoraFirestorm> is there any practical use to a printer?
L71[00:43:35] <SoraFirestorm> (not that that's stopped me from adding OP, mind)
L72[00:43:40] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/kZ9ey/f0b8262bc4.png
L73[00:44:15] <SoraFirestorm> ok, so a status printout
L74[00:44:24] <Kodos> Someone else suggested to me TPS reports, too
L75[00:44:27] <SoraFirestorm> how exactly is that better than a monitor?
L76[00:44:46] <SoraFirestorm> serious question
L77[00:45:20] <Kodos> Well, if you code a sophisticated enough program, you can have a computer/server set up so that when you get a power usage spike, you can have the computer check where the spike was at (Using ZI RF Meters, for example) and print out various bits of info
L78[00:46:29] <SoraFirestorm> so a physical log file...
L79[00:46:40] <SoraFirestorm> I still fail to see the purpose
L80[00:46:43] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L81[00:46:44] <SoraFirestorm> but maybe I'm just blind
L82[00:46:45] <SoraFirestorm> idk
L83[00:47:14] <snowden89> lol
L84[00:47:17] <SoraFirestorm> which mod was it that added mailboxes and stamps?
L85[00:47:27] <SoraFirestorm> was that forestry?
L86[00:47:28] <snowden89> do you mean actual printer
L87[00:47:36] <snowden89> or the block printer?
L88[00:47:39] <SoraFirestorm> snowden89: nope, OpenPrinter
L89[00:47:43] <SoraFirestorm> block printer
L90[00:52:07] <SoraFirestorm> maybe I ought to work on the memory stuff again
L91[00:53:01] <snowden89> yes
L92[00:53:05] <SoraFirestorm> still have to figure out how to track the number that isn't a heuristic
L93[00:53:06] <snowden89> work on the memory stuff
L94[00:56:15] <snowden89> is github still the location for the source
L95[00:56:23] <SoraFirestorm> for what source?
L96[00:56:28] <snowden89> opencomputers
L97[00:56:30] <SoraFirestorm> yeah
L98[00:56:40] <SoraFirestorm> github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers
L99[00:57:05] <snowden89> cool was just checking if still mightypirates. or if it is held somewhere else on the new domain/wiki
L100[00:57:11] <snowden89> ocd.cil.li
L101[00:57:32] <SoraFirestorm> new?
L102[00:57:41] <SoraFirestorm> the wiki and domain have been there for quite a while
L103[00:57:47] <snowden89> yes it has
L104[00:58:00] <snowden89> but its still new compared to the wiki in github
L105[00:58:12] <SoraFirestorm> I suppose
L106[01:00:46] <SoraFirestorm> hm
L107[01:00:56] <SoraFirestorm> I may have a solution
L108[01:01:49] <SoraFirestorm> yeaaah
L109[01:01:52] <SoraFirestorm> that may work
L110[01:02:11] <lperkins2> can you redirect program output to a printer?
L111[01:02:29] <SoraFirestorm> lperkins2: if you had proper OS support, probably
L112[01:02:36] <SoraFirestorm> raw OpenOS, no
L113[01:02:41] <lperkins2> if so it would help with the massively long tracebacks I get...
L114[01:02:54] <lperkins2> drat, could probably do it via xpcall...
L115[01:03:07] <SoraFirestorm> OpenOS can do redirects
L116[01:03:16] <SoraFirestorm> but AFAIK no such concept of device files
L117[01:05:04] <SoraFirestorm> no
L118[01:05:07] <SoraFirestorm> that won't work
L119[01:05:08] <SoraFirestorm> dammit
L120[01:05:39] <SoraFirestorm> well
L121[01:05:40] <SoraFirestorm> actually
L122[01:06:00] <SoraFirestorm> does anyone know how memory works in OpenComputers
L123[01:06:01] <SoraFirestorm> ?
L124[01:06:15] <snowden89> do it anyway lets be so agile that you commit to CDN screw versioning
L125[01:06:16] <snowden89> :P
L126[01:06:36] <SoraFirestorm> I almost have a solution to the memory issue
L127[01:06:57] <SoraFirestorm> but whether or not it works depends on how OC handlings saving and loading computer memory
L128[01:07:07] <SoraFirestorm> s/handlings/handles/
L129[01:07:10] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> but whether or not it works depends on how OC handles saving and loading computer memory
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L131[01:09:38] <VanillaBean> hollow microblocks don't seem to work with oc cables
L132[01:09:46] <SoraFirestorm> don't believe so
L133[01:09:59] <VanillaBean> bummer
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L135[01:12:56] <snowden89> lol never understood the point of hiding cables
L136[01:12:58] <snowden89> like that
L137[01:13:10] <SoraFirestorm> some people are just super OCD that way
L138[01:13:24] <snowden89> yeah i know
L139[01:13:31] <Kodos> I use 3D prints to hide my cables
L140[01:13:37] <snowden89> but myself. i feel it looks more industrial like that
L141[01:13:44] <VanillaBean> i don't always do it
L142[01:13:44] <snowden89> having over ducts basically
L143[01:13:52] <SoraFirestorm> Kodos: duh, sounds obvious now that you've said it
L144[01:14:20] <SoraFirestorm> hey Kodos , you wouldn't happen to be familiar with the OC internals would you?
L145[01:14:30] <Kodos> Depends on what you need to know
L146[01:14:32] <VanillaBean> like the third time I remove the covers to fix stuff i usually leave them off
L147[01:14:39] <SoraFirestorm> saving and loading the world
L148[01:14:40] <SoraFirestorm> tl;dr
L149[01:14:52] <SoraFirestorm> I need to make sure a pointer stays valid between saves and loads
L150[01:14:56] <SoraFirestorm> Can I count on this?
L151[01:15:06] <SoraFirestorm> s/pointer/pointer in memory/
L152[01:15:09] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> I need to make sure a pointer in memory stays valid between saves and loads
L153[01:16:52] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L154[01:17:00] <SoraFirestorm> worth a shot
L155[01:17:28] <SoraFirestorm> I need this for the per-coroutine memory tracking stuff
L156[01:17:39] <SoraFirestorm> I finally realized a way to properly track who alloc'd what
L157[01:17:51] <SoraFirestorm> but it requires pointers stay valid
L158[01:17:52] <Kodos> Woo, my idea worked =D
L159[01:17:56] <SoraFirestorm> :D
L160[01:18:13] <Kodos> Now I just need a way to remotely turn on a server that's on a rack
L161[01:18:24] <SoraFirestorm> wake on LAN msg?
L162[01:18:32] <Kodos> Won't work in this setup
L163[01:18:37] <Kodos> Though I could do a redstone
L164[01:18:38] <SoraFirestorm> figured I'd say it
L165[01:19:17] <Kodos> Basically, I'm going to have a 'data center' (I use the term loosely here), and have OC Telecomm wires running to people's bases where there will be a screen and keyboard set up
L166[01:19:21] <Kodos> Each person gets a rack
L167[01:19:27] <SoraFirestorm> oooh neat!
L168[01:19:55] <Kodos> But I need to have a way for them to be able to turn the servers back on in case they shut down theirs, or they crash or what have you
L169[01:20:04] <SoraFirestorm> right
L170[01:20:33] <Kodos> But this works =D http://puu.sh/nJwIT/3f855e81a0.png
L171[01:21:11] <SoraFirestorm> hah, that's really friggin cool
L172[01:21:29] <SoraFirestorm> are those special wires?
L173[01:21:32] <SoraFirestorm> never used IE before
L174[01:21:40] <Kodos> They're from Zetta Industries
L175[01:21:42] <SoraFirestorm> s/special/OC-specific/
L176[01:21:44] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> are those OC-specific wires?
L177[01:22:17] <SoraFirestorm> those are
L178[01:22:17] <SoraFirestorm> neat
L179[01:24:08] <SoraFirestorm> guess I'll just talk to the man himself once I see him next
L180[01:24:25] <SoraFirestorm> Night all, I'm busy tomorrow o/
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L183[01:26:25] <Kodos> Well, that was easier than expected
L184[01:26:37] <Kodos> Redstone does work
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L186[01:30:08] <Kodos> Is there a way to use more than one relay and still have messages not feedback on each other
L187[01:34:08] <Izaya> "server glx version string: 1.4" my haruhi it's worse than I thought
L188[01:35:03] <gamax92> Izaya: why's thta bad
L189[01:35:30] <gamax92> the latest version is 1.4
L190[01:35:38] <asie> next BTM marked for July 22-24
L191[01:35:46] <gamax92> can't make it.
L192[01:35:48] <Izaya> gamax92: my desktop has v4
L193[01:35:52] <gamax92> Izaya: impossible
L194[01:35:59] <Izaya> okay well
L195[01:35:59] <gamax92> you're looking at the wrong version string then
L196[01:36:03] <gamax92> the latest glx version is 1.4
L197[01:36:06] <Izaya> that's what this says
L198[01:36:24] <gamax92> glx is different from the actual opengl version
L199[01:36:29] <Izaya> "OpenGL version string: 1.4 Mesa 10.5.9"
L200[01:39:35] <gamax92> Izaya: mmm, get rekt
L201[01:39:39] <gamax92> :3
L202[01:39:55] <Izaya> want one? :P
L203[01:40:43] <asie> gamax92: why not?
L204[01:41:24] <gamax92> I probably could, it's just that it's on a weekend which makes it difficult for me
L205[01:41:37] <Kodos> July 24th is my anniversary, so I'll likely not make it
L206[01:44:39] <asie> Kodos: you can always stay around for day 1
L207[01:44:46] <asie> sadly, I can't please everyone
L208[01:44:47] <Kodos> I probably will
L209[01:44:53] <Kodos> I know, it's fine :3
L210[01:45:01] <asie> July 1-3 and 8-10 are out for both me and Snagar
L211[01:45:04] <asie> and July 15-17 is out for a few others
L212[01:45:11] <asie> and no Sangar no convention
L213[01:45:17] <Kodos> Right now, I'm figuring out the logistics of a data center idea I had
L214[01:45:35] <gamax92> asie: do you have a backup plan?
L215[01:45:42] <asie> gamax92: in what sense?
L216[01:45:55] <gamax92> what if Sangar says he can make 22-24, but then get's drunk and misses it
L217[01:46:01] <asie> Armourer's Workshop Mannequins
L218[01:46:02] <asie> and an OC driver
L219[01:46:04] <asie> and text to speech
L220[01:46:13] <asie> if we don't have a Sangar, we build a Sangar
L221[01:46:53] <gamax92> I had an old generic text to speech thingy, where you'd replicate various voices based on a set of parameters
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L223[01:49:14] <gamax92> it was just generally horribly slow and not good quality
L224[01:53:50] <Kodos> asie, can I poke you about the ctif thing real quick? If you're not terribly busy
L225[01:54:17] <asie> yeah
L226[01:54:19] <asie> just, real quick
L227[01:54:22] <asie> i have to leave in 10 minutes
L228[01:54:35] <Kodos> Following your example, I got this
L229[01:54:36] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/nJy2m/1821fc8649.png
L230[01:54:53] <Kodos> Now, it's 2 AM, so I might be doing it wrong
L231[01:58:25] <asie> Kodos: oh!
L232[01:58:29] <asie> apparently your version of Java does not
L233[01:58:30] <asie> do JPEGs?
L234[01:58:32] <asie> try BMP
L235[01:58:36] <asie> wait no that's im4java
L236[01:58:57] <asie> as i said, i only really tested the thing on Linux
L237[01:59:25] <gamax92> I could play around with it on windows
L238[02:05:23] <Kodos> I need a block that lets me have one fluid input, and two output sides, that I can designate how much of the input comes out of each output
L239[02:05:46] <Kodos> Anyone know of a thing like that
L240[02:06:13] <Kodos> Even something that just let me limit the output, without a secondary output
L241[02:08:34] <gamax92> Kodos: you on 64bit or 32bit
L242[02:08:39] <Kodos> 64
L243[02:08:51] <gamax92> Kodos: grab this http://www.imagemagick.org/download/binaries/ImageMagick-6.9.3-7-portable-Q16-x64.zip
L244[02:09:00] <gamax92> unpack it, then put the jar inside (jar should be next to all the exe's)
L245[02:09:03] <gamax92> then it should work
L246[02:09:35] <gamax92> rephrase ... unpack it to a folder and then put the jar in the folder :P
L247[02:09:40] <Kodos> k
L248[02:10:09] <Kodos> Still looking for some sort of regulator for fluids tho
L249[02:13:03] <lperkins2> hm, any way to pause a java thread from another thread?
L250[02:15:22] <Kodos> \o/ http://puu.sh/nJyLi/1e650b7a42.png
L251[02:15:58] <lperkins2> okay, got bzImage down to 2.5 MB by stripping the block layer, networking, and probably a bunch of useful stuff...
L252[02:16:10] <lperkins2> probably going to need to add back in lodable module support
L253[02:18:03] <Cruor> asie: :I i tested mine, assuming imagemagickz was in path
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L255[02:18:34] <Cruor> keep calm and test :I
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L257[02:29:52] <lperkins2> hm, I wonder if the kernel is just not properly outputting to serial...
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L260[02:31:29] <lperkins2> works in qemu...
L261[02:38:38] <lperkins2> works in native jpc
L262[02:38:51] <lperkins2> looks like no module loading makes it a bit slower to start
L263[02:41:10] <gamax92> Cruor: IM4Java will search the path for IM
L264[02:42:04] <gamax92> you can also set an environment variable for where IM is
L265[02:42:50] <Kodos> Isn't there a hotkey thinger to quick-drop all of an item
L266[02:42:56] <Kodos> That you have in inventory
L267[02:43:06] <lperkins2> shift click one stack of it
L268[02:43:13] <lperkins2> or more specifically
L269[02:43:16] <lperkins2> shift drop one stack of it
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L271[02:54:26] <Kodos> Huh, still no recipe for paper rolls?
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L275[03:35:10] <Lizzy> There, got my domain renewed for another year
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L282[03:48:12] <snowden89> woo!
L283[03:48:25] <snowden89> 1&1
L284[03:48:34] <snowden89> seem to not take no for domain renewal
L285[03:48:40] <snowden89> keep harrassing me
L286[03:48:41] <g> oh god, yeah, fuck 1&1
L287[03:48:49] <g> I used them once, never will again
L288[03:49:08] <snowden89> i like name.com
L289[03:49:15] <g> I like iwantmyname and namecheap
L290[03:52:23] <Inari> i like whichever has an anime masct
L291[03:52:45] <greaser|q> i use namecheap and it seems alright
L292[03:56:43] <Inari> on that note
L293[03:56:45] <Inari> any that do?
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L298[04:18:17] <lperkins2> night all
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L300[04:18:21] <g> Inari: I'll make one with an anime mascot, but it'll be 5x more expensive than everyone else
L301[04:18:22] <g> :>
L302[04:19:57] * Lizzy uses No-IP for her domain
L303[04:21:03] * Temia flops on Lizzy's lap.
L304[04:21:19] * Lizzy pets Temia
L305[04:21:21] <Temia> Namecheap's fine.
L306[04:21:24] * Temia leans into pets. <3
L307[04:21:30] <Temia> It's what I use for my domain.
L308[04:22:19] <Lizzy> I used namecheap for the domain i had before theender.net and also used it for thedarkirc.co but that is now expired
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L310[04:28:20] * Temia ... is sleepy. curls up on Lizzy and zzzmoos. =.= as a parting statement, has the best hostname
L311[04:28:42] <Lizzy> ?
L312[04:29:25] <Lizzy> right, lets commence faceplanting a belt sander trying to understand the fuckery that is NAT
L313[04:37:57] * Saphire waves to Temia and flops next to.. air
L314[04:38:30] * Saphire is now somehow stuck in air, upside down and flailing her paws while not moving anywhere from this little spot of aerospace
L315[04:38:55] * Lizzy picks Saphire up and places her on the opisite side of her lap from Temia
L316[04:39:38] * Saphire meeps as you pull her down and flails as you put her, flopping onto her back and streching, nearly falling off your lap o.o
L317[04:41:40] * Lizzy rubs Saphire's belly and makes sure she doesn't fall off
L318[04:41:55] <g> this is the furriest I've seen this channel in some time :P
L319[04:41:56] <omglolbah> Lizzy, NAT is the spawn of the devil
L320[04:42:18] <Lizzy> omglolbah, yup
L321[04:43:40] <omglolbah> I had 3 layers of NAT between my test server at old job and the office net
L322[04:44:08] <omglolbah> "For security"... but they didnt have an issue with just opening RDP and SMB through all those firewalls
L323[04:44:14] * omglolbah hates stupid security people
L324[04:44:17] * Saphire still somehow falls off Lizzy while purring from rubs. She is now flailing her paws while hovering in air just above Lizzy's lap
L325[04:44:34] <Lizzy> lol
L326[04:45:09] <snowden89> lol lol lol
L327[04:45:23] <snowden89> company complains about non work related datausage
L328[04:45:27] <snowden89> blocks social media
L329[04:45:35] <snowden89> does not block youtube
L330[04:45:43] <snowden89> suprised that usage has not changed
L331[04:47:25] <omglolbah> lol
L332[04:47:39] <g> the problem with dynmap and forge: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/March/firefox_2016-03-17_09-47-37.png
L333[04:47:47] <g> DEM INVISIBLOCKS
L334[04:47:58] <omglolbah> Lizzy, Saphire: http://omglolbah.net/ksh/mobilkamera/piggies/shoulder_piggy_surprised.jpg
L335[04:48:04] <g> (and that rope ladder is definitely not rendered right eitheR)
L336[04:48:20] <Saphire> omglolbah: what's that? WHO IS THAT? :O
L337[04:48:36] <omglolbah> That is me with Miniyah-the-piggy
L338[04:48:44] <Saphire> Cute
L339[04:48:50] * Saphire gives omglolbah a razor
L340[04:48:50] <omglolbah> She used to raid with me: http://omglolbah.net/ksh/mobilkamera/piggies/shoulder_piggy2.jpg
L341[04:49:21] <omglolbah> psha, my beard is required. I'm a viking after all
L342[04:49:35] <omglolbah> http://omglolbah.net/ksh/mobilkamera/piggies/
L343[04:49:38] * Saphire puts a helmet onto omglolbah
L344[04:50:24] <omglolbah> http://peegviking.net/
L345[04:50:33] <omglolbah> I may have bought a domain for hosting a single picture
L346[04:53:17] <g> pfft, I have a domain just for rdns
L347[04:53:19] <g> g is ~g@ultros.tentacles.are.evidently.sexy * g
L348[04:53:44] * Lizzy awwws
L349[04:56:08] <omglolbah> I miss mah peeeegs >.<
L350[04:56:10] <snowden89> lol
L351[04:56:15] <snowden89> me to snowden89@runicnet.ninja
L352[04:56:36] <omglolbah> what is needed to do rdns these days anyway?
L353[04:58:02] <snowden89> umm
L354[04:58:04] <snowden89> depends
L355[04:58:24] <snowden89> sometimes if you have a static ip
L356[04:58:37] <snowden89> for your connection you can have it rdns to your domain
L357[04:58:49] <snowden89> as long as you prove to them that your domain is yours
L358[04:58:52] <snowden89> other ways
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L360[04:59:08] <snowden89> ssh to the a server.vps
L361[04:59:21] <snowden89> and all your traffic would come from that
L362[04:59:25] <Lizzy> also most home internet providers don't allow for setting the rdns
L363[04:59:26] <snowden89> and the ip listed with the dns
L364[04:59:28] <snowden89> :P
L365[04:59:35] <snowden89> well yeah
L366[04:59:44] <snowden89> but its not hard signing up for low end business account
L367[05:00:00] <snowden89> just need to have a business number
L368[05:02:40] <omglolbah> Lizzy, they want 50 bucks a month for it it seems... 'nope'
L369[05:02:54] <omglolbah> oh well
L370[05:03:26] <snowden89> or
L371[05:03:32] <snowden89> just get a cheap linode
L372[05:03:38] <snowden89> 10 a month
L373[05:03:40] <Lizzy> that's home isp's for you
L374[05:03:43] <snowden89> run bnc
L375[05:03:55] <snowden89> or something
L376[05:08:19] <Lizzy> also if you get a vps with ipv6 or something, you can have a fair few rdns stuff
L377[05:08:24] <Lizzy> %lookup lizzy.theender.net
L378[05:08:24] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for lizzy.theender.net 2001:19f0:6800:8161:dead:beef:bad:babe
L379[05:09:24] <omglolbah> lol
L380[05:09:36] <omglolbah> I'm just hoping my ISP rolls out ipv6 soon
L381[05:10:51] <Lizzy> the ISP my mother is on has IPv6, my dad's doesn't yet
L382[05:13:26] <omglolbah> at least I'm not on time warner in raleigh
L383[05:14:04] <omglolbah> they were having issues and when they called they were told the net in the area had been out for hours.. my GF says that they ahd access 10 min ago... she's told what? "There must have been some left in the wires"
L384[05:14:55] <Lizzy> ....
L385[05:18:50] <omglolbah> You would think they would be less assholes now that google fiber is rolling out in the area, but no
L386[05:19:01] <omglolbah> They offered double the speed 'at no increased cost!'
L387[05:19:15] <omglolbah> small print said you'd have to replace your modem at a monthly cost of 40 bucks if you wanted to use the offer
L388[05:19:27] <Saphire> o.O
L389[05:19:52] <omglolbah> just the usual shady business practices of trying to trick people
L390[05:20:46] <Saphire> Now Rostelecom sounds quite good o.O
L391[05:21:24] <omglolbah> I'm super-happy with mine here in Norway too (Canal Digital)
L392[05:21:31] <omglolbah> expensive as balls but still..
L393[05:34:55] <g> Why on earth does twitter scroll back to the top when you reply to something?
L394[05:41:00] *** cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
L395[05:46:36] <g> oh, since I know some of you are still learning git: http://ibrokegit.com/
L396[05:53:34] <Antheus> fuckin great
L397[05:53:41] <Antheus> wake up to a tornado warning
L398[05:54:06] <Antheus> Looks of it, not gonna get the tornado, but the part of the storm that produces the big bad hail and winds
L399[05:54:28] * Antheus hears tornado sirens in distance
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L402[06:03:29] <omglolbah> g: my old job found Git too hard to use so they went back to dated zip files on a windows share
L403[06:03:43] <omglolbah> this is a corporation building oil rig control systems btw
L404[06:04:04] <Lizzy> I wonder if my boss is gonna moan at me when he checks the wifi control panel and sees that my laptop has downloaded ~32GB
L405[06:04:17] <g> omglolbah: wut, git isn't hard..
L406[06:04:40] <Lizzy> dammit
L407[06:04:50] <omglolbah> Git isnt hard, but it is hard compared to drag-dropping shit in windows apparently
L408[06:04:53] <Lizzy> speed just tanked from 8MB/s to 88kb/s
L409[06:05:00] <g> omglolbah, I guess
L410[06:05:05] <omglolbah> then again, most of the 'code' is stored in binary files so...
L411[06:05:21] <g> ..lol, someone on twitter literally just told me that they "benefit from racism in so many ways" because they're white
L412[06:06:07] <omglolbah> well, not being shot for holding a cellphone might be seen as a benefit :p
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L417[06:13:40] * vifino groans and walks sleepily over to Lizzy
L418[06:13:58] * Lizzy picks Saphire up so that vifino can sit next to her
L419[06:14:28] * vifino coughs
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L421[06:14:34] <vifino> LIZZY!! \o/
L422[06:14:48] <Lizzy> vifino!!! \o/
L423[06:14:52] * vifino tries to throw himself at Lizzy but kinda fails
L424[06:15:10] <Lizzy> be careful, i have a sleepy Temia on my lap
L425[06:15:56] * vifino picks up Temia and sprawls across Lizzy's lap, putting Temia on him instead
L426[06:16:01] <vifino> Problem solved
L427[06:16:59] * Lizzy puts Saphire down as well, petting her, Temia and vifino
L428[06:18:09] * Saphire mrews and pouts, pawing at Lizzy
L429[06:18:36] * Lizzy pets Saphire
L430[06:18:38] * vifino picks up Saphire and puts her on him
L431[06:19:49] * Saphire purrrs as she's petted, eyes closed.. She yelps as she is suddenly picked up and thus rolls over to her back to see what grabbed her o.o
L432[06:20:55] <vifino> Don't worry, I don't bite. Mostly.
L433[06:27:16] <scj643> I need a good way to make a timesheet
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L437[06:57:08] * Antheus gives vifino a chew toy
L438[06:59:03] <vifino> wat,
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L441[07:23:32] * Cruor pokes vifino :I
L442[07:23:42] <vifino> waat
L443[07:23:56] <Cruor> :>
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L446[07:35:18] <vifino> That moment when you have a l33t as fuck email (vifino@tty.sh/v@tty.sh) but have no clue how to set it up in your mail client.
L447[07:35:20] <vifino> :v
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L450[07:40:36] <Turtle> ugh, I feel retarded for flipping Class.isInstance(Object) for Object.isInstance(Class)
L451[07:44:25] <vifino> Holy hell, haskell shit depends on a lot of stuff.
L452[07:44:33] <vifino> 94 packages just for pandoc.
L453[07:54:47] <alekso56> vifino: i thought you just inputted a problem and the haskell genie would spit out the answer?
L454[07:54:54] <alekso56> usually by bruteforce.
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L458[08:23:10] <Lizzy> casually using college / work internet to download The Division
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L466[08:54:05] <Michiyo> Bleh
L467[08:54:18] * Lizzy pets Michiyo and offers her some hot beverage
L468[08:54:20] <Michiyo> only 8.5 hours to go
L469[08:54:31] <Michiyo> Wooo Thanks :D
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L476[09:12:32] <Kodos> x.x
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L478[09:17:44] <Lizzy> i think it's safe to say i'm not even trying to pretend i'm reading this chapter about NAT anymore
L479[09:18:01] <Lizzy> :@
L480[09:18:26] <Lizzy> I wanna go home and play SE and continue making my ship that may or may not survive atmospheric flight
L481[09:19:20] <Lizzy> %lookup vpn.theender.net
L482[09:19:21] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for vpn.theender.net 212.129.10.174
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L490[09:46:09] <hobnob11> hello? I've been having a problem with open computers for a while now with using key combos (like ctrl c) inside the remote terminal
L491[09:46:17] <Saphire> Um
L492[09:46:32] <Saphire> wMore info?
L493[09:48:01] <hobnob11> Okay, im currently on Unbuntu 14.04, and the OC version is OPENCOMPUTERS-MC1.7.10-1.5.13.27-PRE.1-UNIVERSAL
L494[09:48:24] <hobnob11> they work fine on a normal computer, its just nothing happens while in a terminal
L495[09:48:35] <hobnob11> Remote terminal*
L496[09:56:59] <hobnob11> Is there any more information i can get you?
L497[09:57:45] <Inari> Unbuntu?
L498[09:57:59] <Inari> is that a typo or some joke version of Ubuntu someone made
L499[09:58:23] <hobnob11> ha no, im on ubuntu
L500[09:59:31] * Inari polishes Saphire
L501[09:59:49] * Saphire meeps
L502[10:00:05] <Saphire> hobnob11: question..
L503[10:00:06] <Michiyo> My first suggestion would be to get off of the -PRE released http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/opencomputers/files/2280566
L504[10:00:13] <Saphire> How ubuntu is related? ._.
L505[10:00:27] <Saphire> ...unless someone made a remote terminal server program for OC
L506[10:00:28] <hobnob11> i dont know, i was just getting more info :)
L507[10:00:51] <hobnob11> and im on a server with a custom pack, i cant change the version
L508[10:00:58] <Michiyo> Looks like that version is from May of last year...
L509[10:01:09] <hobnob11> yes this server has been running for just over a year now
L510[10:01:50] <Michiyo> Well, chances are good that if it was an issue it's been fixed by now. I have no issue with ctrl-c in terminals that I can remember
L511[10:02:09] <hobnob11> i understand if it its to much hastle to check, we are on a pretty outdated version
L512[10:02:22] <hobnob11> just wondered if there was like a known issue that has a config or something
L513[10:02:58] <Michiyo> If it WAS a known issue, chances are it'd have been fixed in the year+ since that version was released :P
L514[10:03:07] <hobnob11> yeah probably :)
L515[10:03:28] <hobnob11> ah well, back to crafting a keyboard and screen to put on it for the time being
L516[10:03:45] <hobnob11> do you know of any "ssh" like program for OC?
L517[10:03:54] <hobnob11> as in like remote access
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L520[10:32:28] <Kodos> https://youtu.be/x2RJN9a_jdM
L521[10:32:29] <MichiBot> Loca the Pug singing......'The pug that couldn't run' | length: 2m 33s | Likes: 124959 Dislikes: 2401 Views: 11408763 | by Loca the Pug
L522[10:39:07] <Kodos> What would the easiest way to do a splash screen on startup be
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L524[10:40:23] <vifino> Just in a few minutes, I'll be playing Doom in 4k.
L525[10:40:29] <vifino> I am so excited.
L526[10:40:32] <Kodos> Motion sickness ahoy!
L527[10:41:06] <Kodos> I've got irish pub music at full volume in me ears
L528[10:43:23] <omglolbah> Oh god that pug.... <3
L529[10:45:36] <Kodos> We need a redstone toggleable network cable
L530[10:46:01] <Lizzy> couldn't you use a network switcher for that?
L531[10:49:09] <Kodos> Maybe, but something simpler would be nice
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L537[11:07:54] <Gavle> GavleGavle
L538[11:19:49] <g> bulbasaur!
L539[11:19:52] <g> bulba bulba
L540[11:19:52] <malcom2073> mattdamon
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L542[11:29:22] <SoraFirestorm> o/
L543[11:31:22] <Saphire> \o
L544[11:31:29] * Saphire nibbles on Sora
L545[11:31:33] <SoraFirestorm> uhm
L546[11:31:35] <SoraFirestorm> okay
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L548[11:31:46] <SoraFirestorm> I'd like to think I don't taste that good
L549[11:32:16] <Gavle> My app is broked
L550[11:32:36] <Gavle> It won't let me hit send where I want to
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L552[11:39:27] <Kodos> Okay, this should be interesting
L553[11:39:44] <Kodos> Starting work on my data center idea, on a server that's basically running the hardest recipes possible, +1
L554[11:40:52] <SoraFirestorm> are people going to 'pay' you for your servers?
L555[11:40:56] <SoraFirestorm> or is this just gratis
L556[11:40:57] <SoraFirestorm> ?
L557[11:41:01] <Kodos> Yeah, money is a thing
L558[11:41:13] <Kodos> So I'll be charging a flat rate for a base server, with fees for anything extra
L559[11:41:21] <SoraFirestorm> neat
L560[11:41:48] <Kodos> Going to try to get an investor or two for startup costs
L561[11:41:53] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L562[11:42:22] <g> if you manage it and end up becoming a billionaire, tell us all how, won't you?
L563[11:42:23] <g> :P
L564[11:42:43] <Inari> Kodos: what server ist hat? :P
L565[11:43:00] <Kodos> It's Silvania's official server
L566[11:43:07] <Kodos> Silvania is an ATLauncher pack
L567[11:43:45] <Inari> http://kotaku.com/people-testing-ibms-real-world-sword-art-online-1765439231
L568[11:44:00] <g> ugh, kotaku
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L570[11:44:11] * g clicks through to find the source
L571[11:44:40] <SoraFirestorm> it looks neat though
L572[11:44:46] <Inari> g: link to source? :po
L573[11:45:16] <g> it's in japanese
L574[11:45:16] <g> :P
L575[11:45:29] <g> http://kotaku.com/people-testing-ibms-real-world-sword-art-online-1765439231
L576[11:45:31] <g> no
L577[11:45:34] <Inari> lol
L578[11:45:34] <g> that is not what I copied
L579[11:45:38] <g> are they js-jacking that now?
L580[11:45:43] <Inari> well jp source is useless to link to people anyway
L581[11:45:46] <g> http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2016/03/17/96944.html
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L584[12:02:20] <g> oh no
L585[12:02:26] <g> "The Twisted Project has adopted the Contributor Covenant as its Code of Conduct. (#8173)"
L586[12:02:33] <SoraFirestorm> nooooo
L587[12:02:37] <Lizzy> what's that?
L588[12:02:37] <SoraFirestorm> whatever it is
L589[12:02:40] <SoraFirestorm> I'm not using it now
L590[12:02:58] <g> Lizzy: it's a rather manipulatively-worded CoC being pushed on various projects by SJWs
L591[12:03:15] <g> the CoC itself appears to be pretty good, intentions-wise
L592[12:03:21] <g> but the language in it allows for quite a lot of abuse
L593[12:03:35] <Lizzy> :/
L594[12:03:36] <SoraFirestorm> and btw
L595[12:03:43] <SoraFirestorm> "Twisted is an event-driven network programming framework written in Python and licensed under the MIT License."
L596[12:03:48] <SoraFirestorm> just in case anyone else was wondering
L597[12:04:01] <g> twisted is used extensively throughout a lot of my python projects
L598[12:04:17] <SoraFirestorm> time to find a new library
L599[12:04:25] <g> one of the main problems with the CoC is its extreme over-reach
L600[12:04:35] <SoraFirestorm> s/the/any/
L601[12:04:36] <MichiBot> <g> one of any main problems with the CoC is its extreme over-reach
L602[12:04:43] <SoraFirestorm> inevitably
L603[12:04:51] <SoraFirestorm> aww dammit
L604[12:04:56] <SoraFirestorm> s/with the/with any/
L605[12:04:59] <MichiBot> <g> one of any main problems with any CoC is its extreme over-reach
L606[12:05:05] <SoraFirestorm> forget it
L607[12:05:09] <SoraFirestorm> you know what I mean
L608[12:05:16] <g> I can now be banned from all of the twisted community and such for not accepting a PR on a completely unrelated project because the person that submitted it was black
L609[12:05:36] <g> that's the kind of overreach I mean
L610[12:05:37] <g> :P
L611[12:06:05] <SoraFirestorm> and often, any kind of rejection is 'because of xyz minority status'
L612[12:06:07] <SoraFirestorm> even if it's not
L613[12:06:23] <g> yeah, stuff like that
L614[12:06:23] <SoraFirestorm> 'code quality' means nothing to these people
L615[12:06:25] <SoraFirestorm> it's sickening
L616[12:07:04] <SoraFirestorm> http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=6918
L617[12:08:12] <SoraFirestorm> the person in question in this post *ASSUMED* the rejection of PRs was 'because they're "people of color"'
L618[12:08:54] <g> it's part of the narrative
L619[12:09:38] <CompanionCube> CoC drama?
L620[12:09:48] <SoraFirestorm> yup
L621[12:09:52] <g> yeah
L622[12:10:01] <CompanionCube> what happened this time
L623[12:10:05] <g> Twisted just added the contributor covenant as its code of conduct
L624[12:10:15] <SoraFirestorm> I'm seriously considering bailing out from Github if this situation gets any worse
L625[12:10:27] <g> yeah, I've been mirroring all my stuff to a private gitlab instance
L626[12:10:36] <SoraFirestorm> I haven't done that yet
L627[12:10:40] <SoraFirestorm> but I did make an account
L628[12:10:41] <g> best get to it
L629[12:10:41] <g> :P
L630[12:10:49] <g> Don't bother with the hosted gitlab
L631[12:10:54] <g> they also use the contributor covenant
L632[12:10:54] <g> lol
L633[12:11:03] <g> host it yourself
L634[12:11:04] <SoraFirestorm> fml
L635[12:11:06] <SoraFirestorm> I can't
L636[12:11:09] <SoraFirestorm> I have no where to host it
L637[12:11:17] * Lizzy has gitlab space if people want it
L638[12:11:18] <g> meh
L639[12:11:25] <g> you can use mine if you need to
L640[12:11:34] <g> https://git.gserv.me
L641[12:11:40] <CompanionCube> SoraFirestorm, depending on your views and how much you trust them, you could use gitgud
L642[12:11:56] <g> gitgud.io is run by relative unknowns though
L643[12:12:06] <CompanionCube> exactly
L644[12:12:13] <CompanionCube> hence why I said 'how much you trust them'
L645[12:12:28] <Lizzy> https://git.theender.net
L646[12:12:53] <g> note that my git ssh is on a different port
L647[12:12:58] <g> I run a separate sshd just for git
L648[12:13:04] <g> because my main one is behind a port knocker
L649[12:13:14] <SoraFirestorm> why gitlab why
L650[12:13:17] <SoraFirestorm> we are so doomed
L651[12:13:22] <g> lol
L652[12:13:28] <g> I was hoping the damn CC wouldn't affect anything I use
L653[12:13:31] <g> sadly that isn't the case anymore
L654[12:13:31] <g> brb
L655[12:14:16] <SoraFirestorm> maybe once I get my own Internet I'll host
L656[12:14:29] * CompanionCube prefers no code of conduct but sees the CC as at least a decent CoC
L657[12:14:36] <CompanionCube> unlike the Open Code of Conduct
L658[12:15:03] <Lizzy> does github use this Coc?
L659[12:15:18] <SoraFirestorm> not afaik
L660[12:15:21] <Lizzy> s/Coc/poor excuse for a CoC
L661[12:15:21] <MichiBot> <Lizzy> does github use this poor excuse for a CoC?
L662[12:15:23] <SoraFirestorm> it's *hosted* there
L663[12:15:39] <CompanionCube> I believe they tried to recommend it and use it on their own things
L664[12:15:41] <SoraFirestorm> Github isn't free software anyways
L665[12:15:46] <CompanionCube> ....but it backfired very quickly
L666[12:15:47] <SoraFirestorm> CompanionCube: yeah, that
L667[12:15:58] <Michiyo> there's also https://git.pc-logix.com justh ave to allow signups :P
L668[12:16:02] <CompanionCube> and it's practically abandonded
L669[12:16:13] <Michiyo> which is done
L670[12:16:35] <SoraFirestorm> I'm very surprised and very thankful that everyone has offered to donate hosting space
L671[12:16:42] <SoraFirestorm> But I'd rather not
L672[12:16:55] <Lizzy> fair enough
L673[12:17:03] * CompanionCube goes to lookup gitlab requirements
L674[12:17:07] <SoraFirestorm> I feel like I'm intruding and not properly giving back
L675[12:17:22] <Lizzy> .load
L676[12:17:22] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.2 0.34 0.41 , RAM: 20.0G/31.3G (~64.0%), SWAP: 829.4M/88.2G (~0.9%)
L677[12:17:41] <Lizzy> ^ I'd say the server my gitlab is on is getting used to what i pay for it
L678[12:18:06] <Lizzy> and no, gitlab doesn't use that much of the ram, VMs and Minecraft push that up
L679[12:18:25] <SoraFirestorm> my problem is that I have hardware to host on
L680[12:18:29] <SoraFirestorm> but no personal network
L681[12:19:09] <Roadcrosser> https://twitter.com/CoralineAda/status/702594868984459264
L682[12:19:10] <Roadcrosser> fun
L683[12:19:11] <MichiBot> Wed Feb 24 14:44:05 CST 2016 @CoralineAda: I'm thrilled to announce that I will be joining the team at @github next month to work on community management and anti-harassment tools.
L684[12:19:17] <SoraFirestorm> ffffff
L685[12:19:26] <SoraFirestorm> shoot me
L686[12:19:29] <SoraFirestorm> blarh
L687[12:19:30] <Roadcrosser> also this was last month
L688[12:19:36] <CompanionCube> ^
L689[12:19:44] <Roadcrosser> I'm only bringing it up now because relevance
L690[12:20:03] <CompanionCube> I'm suspending judgement on bailing from Github
L691[12:20:19] <Roadcrosser> ?
L692[12:20:31] <CompanionCube> if she does nothing then I'm not bailing quite yet
L693[12:20:38] <Roadcrosser> I know someone who's close to bailing
L694[12:20:43] <Roadcrosser> but github pages though
L695[12:21:13] <SoraFirestorm> I'd just as soon use raw git personally
L696[12:21:17] <g> that announcement is what made me set up a gitlab
L697[12:21:23] <Roadcrosser> ↑
L698[12:21:29] <SoraFirestorm> but I'm not sure my other programming friends would go for that
L699[12:21:33] <Roadcrosser> hmm
L700[12:21:33] <Inari> eh
L701[12:21:46] <Inari> contributor covenant sounds basically like "be nice and professional"
L702[12:21:56] <SoraFirestorm> on the surface, it might
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L704[12:22:03] <Roadcrosser> Why didn't the programmer join a large project that didn't use a central code management system?
L705[12:22:05] <CompanionCube> Inari, which is why I consider it at least a decent Code of Conduct, if one must be had
L706[12:22:08] <Roadcrosser> He couldn't commit
L707[12:22:42] <SoraFirestorm> We need a CoC in the style of the WTFPL and motherfuckingwebsite.com
L708[12:22:51] <Inari> i need to find some OSS project to contribute to someday
L709[12:22:53] <SoraFirestorm> "Don't be an asshole, asshole"
L710[12:23:06] <Inari> SoraFirestorm: thats overly unspecific for no reason
L711[12:23:11] <g> Inari, it looks nice enough
L712[12:23:17] <g> but there have been some /serious/ issues with it
L713[12:23:22] <SoraFirestorm> Inari: meant to be silly to a degree
L714[12:23:24] <Inari> g: like?
L715[12:23:33] <g> it's fine if enforcement are sane, but if they're not
L716[12:23:44] <g> one example was two guys at a.. I think it was a node conference
L717[12:23:46] <Inari> well then thats on whoever enforces it thouhg lol
L718[12:23:50] <g> or some python conference or something
L719[12:23:56] <SoraFirestorm> g: donglegate?
L720[12:24:00] <g> right
L721[12:24:02] <g> donglegate
L722[12:24:03] <g> lol
L723[12:24:04] <malcom2073> Oh man, I'd not seen that before, the CoC
L724[12:24:15] <Inari> CoC is Corruption of Champions
L725[12:24:20] <malcom2073> CC rather
L726[12:24:20] <malcom2073> sorry
L727[12:24:29] <SoraFirestorm> Inari: I like that, stealing it
L728[12:24:37] <Inari> SoraFirestorm: ?
L729[12:24:41] <Inari> ah
L730[12:24:42] <Inari> :P
L731[12:24:50] <g> basically two dudes were joking about the size of their dongles between themselves
L732[12:25:01] <g> and a woman in the row behind them was eavesdropping and complained about it
L733[12:25:07] <g> one of the guys lost their job over it
L734[12:25:21] <Inari> well thats BS, but im not sure how it realtes to that code of conduct XD
L735[12:25:46] <SoraFirestorm> g: and then people wonder why women aren't 'as included' on top of that
L736[12:25:50] <SoraFirestorm> pls
L737[12:26:03] <SoraFirestorm> I'm actually now very scared of women in a professional setting
L738[12:26:03] <malcom2073> jokes of a sexual or private (very open to interpretation) leaning are not politically correct
L739[12:26:15] <g> that doesn't really matter
L740[12:26:19] <g> they were talking quietly to each other
L741[12:26:20] <malcom2073> And lawyers love to eat that stuff up
L742[12:26:28] <Inari> g: well to be fair, it was a public space
L743[12:26:30] <malcom2073> Right, but you have to be 100% politically correct at work
L744[12:26:38] <g> it wasn't at work though
L745[12:26:39] <g> :P
L746[12:26:54] <g> they weren't there to represent anyone
L747[12:26:59] <g> just two dudes watching a conference
L748[12:27:19] <Inari> they dont ahve to be
L749[12:27:21] <SoraFirestorm> curl also uses CC
L750[12:27:26] <Inari> bad reputation of guy is bad reputation for guy's employer
L751[12:27:27] <SoraFirestorm> guess it's wget from now on
L752[12:27:33] * g already uses wget
L753[12:27:40] <g> Inari, you're missing the point
L754[12:27:42] <Inari> its more about how society works
L755[12:27:47] <g> I'm not saying they should have said what they said
L756[12:27:54] <g> but they didn't even give their names to her
L757[12:28:08] <g> she went out of her way to dox them, organise a twitter harassment campaign, and then wrote to their employers
L758[12:28:23] <Inari> well thats BS :p but both sides are wrong
L759[12:28:43] <g> anyway, the CC was involved somewhere but I forget
L760[12:28:49] <g> oh right
L761[12:28:55] <SoraFirestorm> I think it was the CoC for the conference
L762[12:29:01] <g> no, that was after
L763[12:29:07] <g> they got banned from one of the language communities that was using it I think
L764[12:29:13] <g> probably node, they like banning people
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L766[12:30:37] <Inari> eh, its still stupid form both sides
L767[12:30:44] <malcom2073> People are stupid
L768[12:30:47] <g> true, that
L769[12:30:48] <Inari> on one hand they shouldnt make those jokes, on the other they could be politely asked to stop
L770[12:30:49] <malcom2073> That seems to be universal on all sides of every argument
L771[12:30:54] <Inari> instead of going "OMG BANNNN"
L772[12:31:27] <g> don't forget the whole eggplant thing
L773[12:31:42] <Lucca> watch out
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L775[12:31:43] <Lucca> an eggplant
L776[12:31:46] <Lucca> i got raped by an eggplant once
L777[12:31:50] <g> I think potentially the big problem with CC is that it attracts these crazies
L778[12:31:57] <malcom2073> Lucca: Usage of that word offends me, you must be removed
L779[12:32:00] <Lucca> D:
L780[12:32:06] <malcom2073> Don't use the E word
L781[12:32:09] <SoraFirestorm> this is why FOSS is going to hell
L782[12:32:10] <Inari> eh, the eggplant thing is alright
L783[12:32:17] <SoraFirestorm> because people doing just that
L784[12:32:24] <g> the eggplant thing isn't alright, lol
L785[12:32:26] <Inari> theres no reason to use that emoji in the first place, unles you're for some reason having a project involving eggplants
L786[12:32:30] <malcom2073> Wait, what eggplant thing?
L787[12:32:35] <Inari> the only reason to use it becasue you know whats it associated with
L788[12:32:47] <g> someone got banned from the node.js community for using an eggplant emoji in a github ticket
L789[12:32:55] <malcom2073> Hah!
L790[12:32:56] <SoraFirestorm> srsly
L791[12:32:57] <SoraFirestorm> wtf
L792[12:32:59] <SoraFirestorm> w
L793[12:32:59] <SoraFirestorm> t
L794[12:33:00] <SoraFirestorm> f
L795[12:33:00] <g> because "triggering" and similar
L796[12:33:00] <Lucca> if people associate the eggplant with a dick, i think they need to see a doctor
L797[12:33:26] <Inari> Lucca: its a commonly accepted association
L798[12:33:27] <g> later on in that discussion
L799[12:33:30] <Roadcrosser> what about associating a pomegranate with an open heart
L800[12:33:35] <g> people were referring to the code of conduct as CoC
L801[12:33:43] <g> and got called out for being "brazenly phallic"
L802[12:33:49] <g> you can't say "CoC" in the node community anymore either
L803[12:33:54] <Lucca> Inari: ye :<
L804[12:34:05] <Inari> g: and really
L805[12:34:13] <Roadcrosser> just make an autocorrect thing that changes "CoC" to "Code of Conduct"
L806[12:34:14] <Inari> that user knew, they were just there to spam and be a pain
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L808[12:34:36] <g> yeah I know, it was a single emoji in a comment
L809[12:34:42] <g> but it doesn't warrant that kind of witch hunt
L810[12:34:50] <Inari> he spammed thier repo
L811[12:34:55] <Inari> they banned them from their repo
L812[12:34:57] <Inari> fair trade
L813[12:35:02] <g> if that was why they did it
L814[12:35:07] <g> then that would be fine
L815[12:35:07] <g> lol
L816[12:35:17] <Inari> why else woudl they have done it
L817[12:35:20] <g> and they didn't ban him from their repo
L818[12:35:27] <g> because you can't do that on github without being github staff
L819[12:35:31] <g> (that I've seen anyway)
L820[12:38:32] <Inari> anyway, as said, the enforcing side tends to overreact sadly, but the user was only there to troll in the frist place, so i dont mind in that case
L821[12:40:02] <g> banning the guy from the repo is fine
L822[12:40:17] <g> but they also banned the use of the emoji and the word "coc"
L823[12:40:23] <SoraFirestorm> hm
L824[12:40:28] <SoraFirestorm> Maybe Apache Allura is the answer?
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L826[12:40:41] <Inari> well its associated with something their code of conduct is against
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L828[12:40:47] <Inari> though the "coc" thing is a bit odd
L829[12:40:47] <Inari> :P
L830[12:40:50] <g> dicks? I suppose so
L831[12:40:51] <g> lol
L832[12:40:59] <SoraFirestorm> only if you try to read it that way
L833[12:41:05] <Inari> g: dicks in postins namely
L834[12:41:06] <SoraFirestorm> they're being stupid on purpose and they know i
L835[12:41:18] <Inari> SoraFirestorm: its a common association and about the only one that can be interpreted
L836[12:41:22] <g> if I can translate what SoraFirestorm is saying here
L837[12:41:24] <Inari> what else woudl you use eggplant emoji for
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L839[12:41:34] <SoraFirestorm> not the eggplant
L840[12:41:34] <SoraFirestorm> 'coc'
L841[12:41:37] <Inari> ah
L842[12:41:41] <Inari> well thats kind of dumb yeah
L843[12:41:41] <Inari> :P
L844[12:41:45] <g> the CoC itself seems okay, but it's designed badly
L845[12:41:51] <g> it tries to prevent "harassment"
L846[12:41:58] <SoraFirestorm> by harassing people
L847[12:42:00] <g> hold on
L848[12:42:03] <Gavle> %seen lperkins2
L849[12:42:04] <MichiBot> Gavle: lperkins2 was last seen 8h 23m 46s ago.
L850[12:42:08] <g> the problem with that is that if enough people with the same narrative show up
L851[12:42:16] <g> they can all pretend to be "triggered" by any inane thing
L852[12:42:20] <Inari> but well, one can see the assocation so i guess its kind of fine
L853[12:42:29] <g> and the people enforcing the CoC will either have to deal with that by banning the thing, banning them, or changing the CoC
L854[12:42:47] <SoraFirestorm> 'triggers' are such bs
L855[12:42:48] <Inari> if anything "triggers" me its the overusage of "triggered" xD
L856[12:42:50] <SoraFirestorm> it's an excuse
L857[12:42:56] <malcom2073> Inari: +1
L858[12:42:59] <Inari> SoraFirestorm: in their original form they are fine
L859[12:43:00] <SoraFirestorm> to be a total asshole whenever you feel like it
L860[12:43:08] <Inari> but the new definition of trigger is "this made me feel somewhat unwell"
L861[12:43:08] <Inari> :P
L862[12:43:14] <malcom2073> Bwahaha, that's awesome
L863[12:43:22] <malcom2073> There needs to be a browser plugin to replace that
L864[12:43:27] <malcom2073> would make reading this shit more amusing
L865[12:43:32] <SoraFirestorm> s/this made me feel somewhat unwell/I disagree and I'm going to cry about it/
L866[12:43:35] <MichiBot> <Inari> but the new definition of trigger is "I disagree and I'm going to cry about it"
L867[12:43:40] <CompanionCube> malcom2073, there is
L868[12:43:42] <SoraFirestorm> ftfy
L869[12:43:44] <Inari> originally it was for stuff like PTSD
L870[12:43:44] <CompanionCube> 'Church of Social Justice'
L871[12:43:45] <g> well, they're called crybullies for a reason
L872[12:43:54] <malcom2073> Heh
L873[12:44:06] <Inari> you'd want a trigger warning for e.g. rape on things
L874[12:44:15] <Inari> as rape victims could get some serious flashbacks/depressions obviosuly
L875[12:44:18] <g> yeah, I can understand the original meaning
L876[12:44:42] <SoraFirestorm> sure, the original meaning is perfectly fine
L877[12:44:43] <malcom2073> OCD is commonly misued, why not PTSD?
L878[12:44:53] <Inari> haha
L879[12:44:59] <Inari> yeah the "OCD" crowd is silly too
L880[12:45:09] <malcom2073> It's the new trendy thing!
L881[12:45:21] <malcom2073> Post Traumatic Stress Diva
L882[12:45:22] <Roadcrosser> "I'm so OCD I have to arrange all my books bimonthly"
L883[12:46:10] <Inari> why cant we all just be respectful to one another :P
L884[12:46:24] <g> oh yeah, one other thing Inari
L885[12:46:30] <g> CoCs like this are being applied to code
L886[12:46:42] <malcom2073> Inari: Respectful is such a..... relative term
L887[12:46:43] <SoraFirestorm> alright, I'll say this
L888[12:46:44] <g> but they are almost entirely irrelevant to code
L889[12:46:50] <Inari> malcom2073: nah
L890[12:46:54] <SoraFirestorm> Apache's CoC looks fairly good to me
L891[12:46:58] <SoraFirestorm> http://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
L892[12:46:59] <g> in my opinion, repo community should be about meritocracy
L893[12:47:06] <g> if you write good code, you're great, stick with us
L894[12:47:16] <Inari> g: nah
L895[12:47:19] <Roadcrosser> if someone's code had master/slave terminology would people complain
L896[12:47:27] <Inari> if you write good code but you're a spamming asshole they shouldnt be kept around :P
L897[12:47:35] <g> I wasn't really finished
L898[12:47:35] <g> lol
L899[12:47:38] <malcom2073> g: That's discriminating against those who are less educat... err I mean fortunate
L900[12:47:44] <Inari> g: then stop writing half sentences :P
L901[12:47:49] <g> no, get used to it
L902[12:47:49] <g> :P
L903[12:47:51] <g> you've got a code repo here
L904[12:47:57] <g> all discussion should be about the code repo
L905[12:48:00] <CompanionCube> Code of Merit anyone?
L906[12:48:10] <g> everything else is out of scope
L907[12:48:10] <malcom2073> Stop treating the enter key... like the comma key! :P
L908[12:48:20] <Inari> malcom2073: hows being respectful relative though?
L909[12:48:24] <g> my typing style is an extension of my brain
L910[12:48:27] <g> you'll get used to it, don't worry
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L912[12:48:33] <SoraFirestorm> CompanionCube: I love this
L913[12:48:39] <SoraFirestorm> thank you for pointing it out
L914[12:48:42] <Roadcrosser> just remap the enter key to the semicolon
L915[12:48:43] <malcom2073> Inari: Lookup the definition of respect. Admiration is entirely relative
L916[12:48:44] <Roadcrosser> it'll be fiiiine
L917[12:48:50] <g> so, yeah, don't spam
L918[12:49:05] <g> but really, if you're discussing anything but the project or related projects.. it's out of scope, take it somewhere else
L919[12:49:11] <malcom2073> Expression of admiration is also relative
L920[12:49:13] <SoraFirestorm> g: *exactly*
L921[12:49:22] <g> that deals with 99% of the problems because harassment is also nothing to do with the project, so gtfo with that
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L923[12:50:22] <LuMistry> Greetings
L924[12:50:31] <g> I don't really think it needs to be any more complicated than that
L925[12:50:32] <g> :P
L926[12:50:33] <g> Hi Lucca
L927[12:50:36] <g> er, LuMistry
L928[12:50:37] <Lucca> hai
L929[12:50:37] <Inari> malcom2073: well in usual usage thast not the kind of respect meant :P
L930[12:50:39] <Lucca> lel
L931[12:50:46] <g> Inari: okay I'm done
L932[12:50:47] <g> lol
L933[12:51:00] <LuMistry> hi Lucca and g
L934[12:51:15] <Corded1> <Roadcrosser> o/
L935[12:51:42] <Roadcrosser> <Roadcrosser> \o
L936[12:51:59] <Inari> malcom2073: meaning you should show respect for someones feelings and wishes and they should to you, and treat each other in such a way
L937[12:52:25] <malcom2073> Inari: Ah, but what if their feelings and wishes are disrespectful to you? Then what?
L938[12:52:35] <g> you just can't acommodate everyone
L939[12:52:42] <Inari> malcom2073: they shouldnt be
L940[12:52:43] <SoraFirestorm> don't take things so personally how about?
L941[12:52:43] <malcom2073> Then to be respectful to them, you would be disrespecting yourself, and possibly others :P
L942[12:52:45] <Inari> since its a mutual thing :P
L943[12:52:56] <malcom2073> In a perfect world, I would agree with you
L944[12:53:02] <malcom2073> This world sucks though
L945[12:53:04] <Inari> malcom2073: well that was my statement
L946[12:53:10] <Inari> "why cant we all be respectufl to one another"
L947[12:53:11] <Inari> :P
L948[12:53:33] <Inari> SoraFirestorm: well fi you're addressed it tends to be personal
L949[12:53:34] <malcom2073> Bah fine, my answer is because the world aint perfect :P
L950[12:53:50] <Inari> malcom2073: we can work to make it better though ;d
L951[12:53:58] <g> to be fair, if you're constantly complaining about things too, then you should probably just not be there
L952[12:54:06] <g> like, sure, people should respect your views
L953[12:54:15] <g> but if you spend 80% of your tickets talking about that then.. what are you doing there?
L954[12:54:19] <malcom2073> Inari: If we can agree on what better is, sure! :)
L955[12:55:35] <g> also to note, most of the people pushing these CoCs are not coders
L956[12:55:40] <g> do not contribute code ever
L957[12:55:54] <g> and many of the people that comment in their tickets in support of the CoCs are one-off accounts
L958[12:56:49] <g> if that ain't pushing an agenda, I dunno what is
L959[12:57:48] <malcom2073> That's SJW in a nutshell
L960[12:58:29] <g> yep
L961[12:58:50] <Inari> well i dont midn them no contributing code I guess, but one-off accounts are bleh
L962[12:59:30] <malcom2073> Heh,,, reading through a thread on reddit complaining about software SJW.... I'm rolling, this is hlarious
L963[12:59:30] <g> they have no business being around coding communities
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L965[12:59:42] <g> malcom2073: /r/kotakuinaction is a good read
L966[12:59:42] <g> :P
L967[12:59:51] <malcom2073> Yeah his comments are gold
L968[13:00:01] <malcom2073> Ah wait, I was thinking someone else
L969[13:00:05] <malcom2073> there's a guy with a name similar to that subreddit haha
L970[13:00:18] <Roadcrosser> is it /u/kotakuinaction
L971[13:00:27] <Roadcrosser> that was a joke.
L972[13:00:37] <g> /r/ is subreddit
L973[13:00:39] <g> /u/ is user
L974[13:00:52] <g> https://www.reddit.com/r/kotakuinaction
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L977[13:01:40] <Inari> g: that was... kind of the point
L978[13:01:55] <g> Inari: I mean, people who don't code
L979[13:02:00] <g> not just the one-off accounts
L980[13:02:06] <g> unless they're learning, of course
L981[13:02:17] <g> or have an actual interest
L982[13:02:20] <Inari> well coders arent known to be good at the whole social/PR stuff
L983[13:02:24] <Inari> so someone else tends to have to d that
L984[13:02:24] <Inari> :p
L985[13:03:18] <g> in companies? maybe
L986[13:03:19] <g> :P
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L988[13:07:20] <g> SoraFirestorm / Inari - I think Github actually used the contributor covenant for about a week, right?
L989[13:07:27] <g> then replacing it with another one that's almost as problematic
L990[13:07:41] <CompanionCube> no
L991[13:08:03] <g> because I know their current CoC has, eg, a clause stating they don't care about "reverse" racism/sexism/etc
L992[13:08:57] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/todogroup/opencodeofconduct/ they used this
L993[13:09:12] <CompanionCube> and then promptly abandoned it when it was pointed out how terrible it was
L994[13:09:13] <g> (for the uninitiated, reverse racism/sexism is when harassment is applied to people that aren't considered the usual target, eg racism against white people or sexism against men)
L995[13:09:18] <g> ah, I see
L996[13:09:58] <g> malcom2073, you might enjoy shoe0nhead as well
L997[13:10:09] <g> https://www.youtube.com/user/Shoe0nHead
L998[13:10:37] <malcom2073> She looks annoying as fuck, I'm not even going to watch her videos
L999[13:10:40] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/todogroup/opencodeofconduct/blob/gh-pages/index.md
L1000[13:10:56] <CompanionCube> CTRL-F for 'We will not act on complaints regarding:'
L1001[13:11:16] <malcom2073> Lol
L1002[13:11:44] <g> malcom2073, she's a little annoying to some but she does make some good points
L1003[13:11:46] <vifino> Holy fucking shit. Project Brutality is the most awesome doom mod I've ever seen.
L1004[13:11:52] <vifino> It is aaaaamaaaazing!
L1005[13:12:04] <vifino> Gore, Gore everywhere.
L1006[13:12:08] <g> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc_E9JtM_ss was a pretty good one
L1007[13:12:08] <MichiBot> rape is bad | length: 7m 56s | Likes: 24921 Dislikes: 572 Views: 401271 | by Shoe0nHead
L1008[13:12:15] <malcom2073> The trailer for the new doom game gave me chills
L1009[13:12:33] <vifino> Amd the music... ohmygodsoamaze.
L1010[13:12:46] <malcom2073> Haha that's fantastic vifino
L1011[13:13:11] <vifino> malcom2073: Doom2 with ProjectBrutality, sound pack and highres pack > Doom 4
L1012[13:13:25] <vifino> Mark my words, kiddo.
L1013[13:13:38] <Roadcrosser> how is (the concept of) reverse sexism and all that even allowed to exist
L1014[13:13:46] <Roadcrosser> sexism is sexism
L1015[13:13:53] <Roadcrosser> regardless of who the target is
L1016[13:13:59] <malcom2073> Roadcrosser: For exactly the same reason sexism is allowed to exist. People are shit.
L1017[13:14:02] <g> yeah, I have no idea
L1018[13:14:02] <Roadcrosser> I dunno what I'm spouting
L1019[13:14:07] <CompanionCube> and people want to justify the shit they do
L1020[13:14:11] <vifino> The Project Brutality music is heavy metal, it seems.
L1021[13:14:14] <vifino> I love it.
L1022[13:14:25] <Roadcrosser> but you're putting a reverse label on it
L1023[13:14:30] <Roadcrosser> that's just worse
L1024[13:14:49] <malcom2073> Roadcrosser: Shit stinks. Even shit that doesn't stink, still stinks
L1025[13:14:56] <Roadcrosser> rip
L1026[13:15:05] <Kasen> when i was a kid, we got taught that "reverse racism" was being overly kind and shit to black people
L1027[13:15:20] <Kasen> like, still discriminating against them, but in the opposite way - sort of being patronising
L1028[13:15:20] <SoraFirestorm> vifino: lol
L1029[13:15:32] <g> that is a sensible definition
L1030[13:15:37] <g> but it's not the way SJWs use it
L1031[13:15:39] <Kasen> like how some people go super out of their way to help disabled people
L1032[13:16:09] <CompanionCube> SJWs just use it so they can claim / pretend that they aren't totally racist and sexist themselves
L1033[13:16:24] <Kasen> the other definition doesn't make sense, especially since, you know, not the whole fucking world is the united bloody states
L1034[13:16:48] <g> it doesn't make sense
L1035[13:17:04] <vifino> <doomguy> AH! Chainsaw! The great communicator!
L1036[13:17:04] <g> but that's the way it is
L1037[13:17:07] <Roadcrosser> in fact it's might be *ist to say that reverse *ism exists
L1038[13:17:12] <vifino> I love Project Brutality already.
L1039[13:17:18] <SoraFirestorm> vifino: <doomguy> RIP AND TEAAR!!!
L1040[13:17:21] <SoraFirestorm> :D
L1041[13:17:36] <vifino> SoraFirestorm: If you haven't played with Project Brutality, do it.
L1042[13:17:42] <vifino> Do it now.
L1043[13:17:46] <SoraFirestorm> vifino: last I tried it, didn't work for me
L1044[13:17:48] <vifino> Thank me later.
L1045[13:17:52] <SoraFirestorm> Doesn't work in Zandronum
L1046[13:17:53] <Roadcrosser> Iunno how to explain that oh well
L1047[13:17:56] <SoraFirestorm> GZDoom doesn't work
L1048[13:18:02] <vifino> SoraFirestorm: I play it in zandronum right now.
L1049[13:18:03] <SoraFirestorm> *shrug*
L1050[13:18:06] <SoraFirestorm> really?
L1051[13:18:09] <Kasen> Project Brutality?
L1052[13:18:10] <SoraFirestorm> I must have an old version
L1053[13:18:25] <Kasen> how is this different than brutal doom?
L1054[13:18:29] <vifino> You need the 3.0 alpha version of zandronum, aka git/svn/hg
L1055[13:18:35] <SoraFirestorm> Kasen: more guns, more mods
L1056[13:18:38] <SoraFirestorm> vifino: aaah, that's why
L1057[13:18:41] <vifino> Kasen: More everything.
L1058[13:18:41] <SoraFirestorm> I'm using 2.x release
L1059[13:18:45] <Kasen> i see - i must try this out
L1060[13:18:46] <SoraFirestorm> s/mods/enemies/
L1061[13:18:46] <MichiBot> <SoraFirestorm> Kasen: more guns, more enemies
L1062[13:18:56] <vifino> better enemies, too
L1063[13:19:02] <vifino> everything improved, literally.
L1064[13:19:06] <Kasen> i have zandronum 2.whatever though too
L1065[13:19:08] <SoraFirestorm> some of the guns look pretty stupid though
L1066[13:19:12] <vifino> I thought brutal doom would be the best there is.
L1067[13:19:27] <vifino> But then I saw Project Brutality and I threw Brutal Doom away.
L1068[13:19:27] <SoraFirestorm> I miss v20's rifle texture
L1069[13:19:34] <SoraFirestorm> I liked it better than v20b's
L1070[13:19:41] <Kasen> looks like project brutality is a brutal doom thing though?
L1071[13:19:50] <Kasen> it's listed under their moddb project
L1072[13:19:52] <SoraFirestorm> an addon to the mod, IIRC
L1073[13:20:31] <SoraFirestorm> suppose I can grab from git
L1074[13:21:00] <SoraFirestorm> oooh, pre-packaged
L1075[13:21:01] <SoraFirestorm> neat
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L1077[13:25:46] <Vexatos> fish.
L1078[13:27:22] <SoraFirestorm> damn
L1079[13:27:31] <SoraFirestorm> the zandronum wants OpenSSL 1.0.0
L1080[13:27:40] <SoraFirestorm> I don't have 1.0.0
L1081[13:28:59] <SoraFirestorm> why must it make life so hard?
L1082[13:29:34] <Roadcrosser> speaking of zdoom
L1083[13:29:36] <vifino> Maaan, these things crawling up walls isn't easy to fight
L1084[13:30:13] <Roadcrosser> I was an idiot when submitting a PR
L1085[13:30:19] <Roadcrosser> picked the wrong base
L1086[13:30:25] <vifino> gg
L1087[13:30:30] <Roadcrosser> I ended up PRing my own repo
L1088[13:30:32] <Roadcrosser> from my own branch
L1089[13:30:45] <Roadcrosser> and I only just realised this
L1090[13:33:13] <SoraFirestorm> zandronum's repo is not git :(
L1091[13:33:17] <SoraFirestorm> whyyyy
L1092[13:33:20] <SoraFirestorm> bleh
L1093[13:33:44] <Roadcrosser> so I've resubmitted the PR
L1094[13:33:48] <Roadcrosser> correctly
L1095[13:33:55] <Roadcrosser> maybe they'll see it this time
L1096[13:35:09] <SoraFirestorm> screw it
L1097[13:35:14] <SoraFirestorm> rebuilding GZDoom from source
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L1099[13:36:21] <Roadcrosser> which kinda sucks
L1100[13:36:22] <vifino> Dual wielding everything. Halleluja.
L1101[13:36:43] <Roadcrosser> because gzdoom merged some of zdoom's langfiles 3 days ago
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L1103[13:39:42] <malcom2073> Ok I'm done, I've wasted a half hour reading this stupidity. Time to go get doom!
L1104[13:39:52] <vifino> Doooom!
L1105[13:39:58] <SoraFirestorm> RIP AND TEAR!
L1106[13:40:04] <malcom2073> The ripping and the tearing
L1107[13:40:06] <vifino> CHAINSAWS!
L1108[13:40:13] <SoraFirestorm> DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUNS!
L1109[13:42:15] <SoraFirestorm> building GZDoom!
L1110[13:42:19] <SoraFirestorm> (slowly!)
L1111[13:43:12] <SoraFirestorm> almost done
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L1113[13:49:32] <Michiyo> fml todays truck damn near killed me
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L1115[13:55:11] <SoraFirestorm> vifino: ick, have to reconfigure GZDoom :P
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L1117[13:58:30] <vifino> pfft, gzdoom
L1118[13:58:34] <vifino> zandronum masterrace
L1119[13:58:52] <Turtle> ugggghhhhh
L1120[13:59:47] <Turtle> I got legacy code'd into having to hack in a nullcontructor yay
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L1124[14:04:40] <Gavle> %seen gamemanj
L1125[14:04:42] <MichiBot> Gavle: gamemanj was last seen 20d 1h 36m 57s ago.
L1126[14:04:51] <scj643> Borderlands 2 is on sale
L1127[14:05:16] <scj643> http://store.steampowered.com/sub/32848/
L1128[14:05:46] <scj643> Goty does include ultimate vault hunter pack
L1129[14:06:25] <Michiyo> $10.99 CAD I was confused why it was in CAD, then I remembered.... I'm RDPed into a Canadian server
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L1133[14:11:35] <Lizzy> scj643, already got it last time it was on sale :P
L1134[14:12:05] <scj643> Wow was talking in the wrong channel :D
L1135[14:12:13] <scj643> https://www.g2a.com/borderlands-2-goty-steam-cd-key-global.html cheaper on g2a
L1136[14:12:15] <Lizzy> lol
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L1138[14:12:27] <scj643> $7.60
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L1140[14:12:37] <scj643> wish I still had my $10 cash
L1141[14:12:50] <scj643> But that went to halo spartan strike and assult
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L1149[14:32:37] <vifino> My mom apparently found it a good idea to get me to grab shit from the car alone, even though I'm hurt and in pain.
L1150[14:33:15] <vifino> I fell down the stairs because of it. I told that my mom when I got back and she told me pretty much to fuck off and that it'd be my fault.
L1151[14:33:25] <vifino> Wonderful. Just fucking wonderful.
L1152[14:34:10] <vifino> A few more stairs up and I'd be in hospital.
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L1154[14:40:41] <scj643> Damn
L1155[14:40:49] <scj643> https://www.bundlestars.com/en/giveaway
L1156[14:40:58] <scj643> I got a working key from that
L1157[14:42:04] <SoraFirestorm> vifino: Played a little of Ultimate and Doom 2. Prefer standard Brutal. :P
L1158[14:43:14] <vifino> SoraFirestorm: "standard brutal" being?
L1159[14:43:29] <SoraFirestorm> not Project Brutality
L1160[14:43:43] <vifino> Cool.
L1161[14:43:44] <SoraFirestorm> Base BD if you will
L1162[14:43:49] <SoraFirestorm> just figured I'd share
L1163[14:44:11] <SoraFirestorm> 'least I tried it
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L1166[14:55:13] <Michiyo> I miss having Fridays off...
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L1169[15:12:03] <Temia> *and
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L1175[15:50:24] <vifino> Anybody knows what the cheapest/simplest way would be to have a tiny vt52/vt100 capable lcd with 3.3v uart as input?
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L1179[16:14:58] <SoraFirestorm> need warmer clothes
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L1229[16:43:53] <Lizzy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoKmcunpm78
L1230[16:43:55] <MichiBot> Spooky Scary Skeletons Meets Metal (w/ Miracle of Sound) | length: 2m 58s | Likes: 12692 Dislikes: 83 Views: 284671 | by 331Erock
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L1266[18:11:10] <CompanionCube> Lizzy, awake?
L1267[18:11:50] <SoraFirestorm> no, can't you read? :P
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L1269[18:24:32] <g> http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/03/once-thought-safe-ddr4-memory-shown-to-be-vulnerable-to-rowhammer/
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L1272[18:31:40] <malcom2073> g: What would be awesome, is if this pushes more common ECC processor support
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L1275[18:32:42] <SoraFirestorm> eeeeh
L1276[18:32:55] <SoraFirestorm> I don't get why mere users need error correcting memory
L1277[18:32:58] <SoraFirestorm> but what do I know?
L1278[18:33:26] <malcom2073> SoraFirestorm: Because rowhammer, not really any other reason
L1279[18:33:52] <malcom2073> But it would bring down the price of ECC processors, which wouldbe good for anyone wit hdata
L1280[18:34:05] <malcom2073> Or at least, anyone who cares about their data
L1281[18:35:42] <malcom2073> So... yeah, depends entirely on your definition of mere.
L1282[18:35:54] <SoraFirestorm> sure
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L1284[18:37:59] <Dashkal> I would appreciate not having a website be able to break a virtual sandbox...
L1285[18:38:23] <Dashkal> Or user controls (win 7+)
L1286[18:38:39] <CompanionCube> http://arstechnica.com/science/2016/03/drunk-tweeting-computer-algorithm/
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L1319[18:41:11] <EnderBot2> Ohai there Lizzy
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L1327[19:06:48] <v^> ^v
L1328[19:06:51] <v^> y u no
L1329[19:21:07] <S3_> ok.
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L1332[19:29:44] <S3_> is there a way to copy from the OC computer to my local copy buffer?
L1333[19:29:47] <S3_> I know how to paste lol
L1334[19:30:49] <SoraFirestorm> those colors though
L1335[19:30:52] <SoraFirestorm> icky
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L1338[19:31:52] <gamax92> S3_: nop
L1339[19:32:17] <gamax92> multiple people are using the computer at one time, who's clipboard get's set?
L1340[19:32:48] <S3_> EVERYONES!
L1341[19:32:52] <S3_> or,
L1342[19:32:56] <S3_> the one who hit the command?
L1343[19:32:57] <S3_> :P
L1344[19:33:15] <Dashkal> requires UI gesture, and you send it to something that came in on the event. Only works if that player still has the UI open.
L1345[19:33:29] <SoraFirestorm> S3_: either of those make sense btw
L1346[19:33:38] <gamax92> SoraFirestorm: the latter makes no sense
L1347[19:33:54] <SoraFirestorm> it at least makes a little sense
L1348[19:34:45] <gamax92> not really, what if the computer is self managed, you look at it and then bam, all of a sudden your clipboard has porn
L1349[19:35:47] <SoraFirestorm> meh
L1350[19:35:54] <SoraFirestorm> not going to try and argue it that much
L1351[19:36:05] <{}> I think the way it would work is by requesting a clipboard copy from the computer to the clients with the GUI open
L1352[19:36:15] <{}> But then the problem is what component would even have that
L1353[19:36:22] <{}> it technically breaks the 4th wall
L1354[19:36:34] <gamax92> doesn't have to be a component, could just be one of the builtin api's like computer
L1355[19:36:50] <{}> gamax92: But it is bound to a screen, so maybe the screen component
L1356[19:37:01] <{}> Or maybe keyboard?
L1357[19:37:03] <Dashkal> Well, not so much "Breaks" as "uses the same hole paste does"
L1358[19:37:07] <{}> I have no clue
L1359[19:37:27] <{}> Dashkal: paste just makes the minecraft character type in a whole bunch of characters on the keyboard all at the same instant
L1360[19:37:37] <{}> It's not really 4th wall breaking, just superhuman speed
L1361[19:37:40] <S3_> so I just retyped all of it
L1362[19:37:47] <S3_> http://hastebin.com/itokevepiq.lua
L1363[19:37:54] <Dashkal> Erm, we disagree, but that's a definitions point and there's no gain to arguing it.
L1364[19:38:00] <S3_> so here is my program that spits out morse code for a number
L1365[19:38:07] <{}> :P
L1366[19:38:08] <S3_> Funny thing is, 1 and 0 work, 2 - 4 don't
L1367[19:38:15] <S3_> but it's the same algorithm I use in C
L1368[19:38:18] <gamax92> S3_: ... why not just use computer.beep?
L1369[19:38:18] <S3_> !!!
L1370[19:38:27] <S3_> why would I do that?
L1371[19:38:35] <gamax92> it's morse code?
L1372[19:38:42] <{}> The thing is, paste makes sense in the keyboard component. Copy, on the other hand, gets handled by what?
L1373[19:38:43] <gamax92> you only get one tone at a time anyway
L1374[19:38:56] <S3_> gamax92: CW man
L1375[19:38:59] <S3_> there is ONLY one tone
L1376[19:39:01] <{}> A screen just renders stuff. A keyboard accepts input. A GPU renders to a screen buffer.
L1377[19:39:10] <gamax92> S3_: what's your point
L1378[19:39:14] <gamax92> that's just what I said.
L1379[19:39:38] <{}> S3_: You should just use beep and some timings
L1380[19:39:42] <Dashkal> On the note of getting crap out, I think it's time to put a pastebin up on my mc host so I can paste crap up and out.
L1381[19:39:45] <S3_> gamax92: there's not even a beep in the computer API
L1382[19:39:48] <S3_> on the doc
L1383[19:39:53] <S3_> but I know it exists...
L1384[19:40:00] <gamax92> ~w computer api
L1385[19:40:00] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:computer
L1386[19:40:08] <S3_> found it
L1387[19:40:09] <S3_> it
L1388[19:40:15] <gamax92> ... right where is it.
L1389[19:40:15] <S3_> it's in a different computer api page wtfd?
L1390[19:40:30] <S3_> found it here: http://ocdoc.cil.li/component:computer?s[]=beep
L1391[19:40:44] <S3_> hmmm
L1392[19:40:48] <S3_> does this call block?
L1393[19:40:49] <gamax92> oh, it's a component method
L1394[19:40:50] <gamax92> yes
L1395[19:40:57] <gamax92> which is why I suggested using it
L1396[19:40:59] <S3_> I might as well use it then
L1397[19:41:03] <S3_> because I am getting beeps mashed together
L1398[19:41:41] <S3_> the original idea was to keep doing things while it beeped which is why I was doing it the non blocking way but it dosn't matter so much
L1399[19:43:36] <rashy> o/
L1400[19:43:57] <S3_> gamax92: with that maybe I can get 0.1 second beeps :D
L1401[19:49:01] <SoraFirestorm> So I basically have got the idea on how to make Emacs use 16 colors in its VT100 emulator
L1402[19:49:02] <SoraFirestorm> which is nice
L1403[19:52:51] <S3_> gamax92: I dunno wtf, but it actually works worse now
L1404[19:52:58] <SoraFirestorm> S3_: lol
L1405[19:53:01] <SoraFirestorm> such is the way of things
L1406[19:53:14] <gamax92> >_> da fak are you doing.
L1407[19:53:40] <Kodos> I got a hot mess of a dinner plate tonight =D
L1408[19:54:49] <gamax92> Kodos: mash potatas?
L1409[19:54:57] <Kodos> Not quite
L1410[19:55:00] <gamax92> :c
L1411[19:55:18] <Kodos> Loaded Potato casserole, green beans, corned beef, cabbage fried in bacon grease, and like 3 fresh baked yeast rolls torn up and mixed in
L1412[19:55:30] <Kodos> All mixed together
L1413[19:55:32] <S3_> I got it!
L1414[19:55:36] <S3_> but the math isn't working right
L1415[19:59:28] <CompanionCube> brb
L1416[19:59:31] <S3_> now: http://hastebin.com/asalixozam.lua
L1417[19:59:35] <S3_> so the way it works
L1418[19:59:41] <S3_> you lua filename [0 to 5]
L1419[19:59:53] <S3_> er
L1420[19:59:55] <S3_> 0 - 9
L1421[20:00:03] <S3_> so you can lua filename 0
L1422[20:00:07] <S3_> but 2 - 9 do not work
L1423[20:00:14] <S3_> Not sure...
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L1426[20:07:35] <S3_> I HAVE GOT IT!
L1427[20:07:45] <S3_> the trick is to encapsulate that if conditional with math.floor()
L1428[20:07:46] <S3_> :D
L1429[20:07:55] <S3_> because in C well, it gets casted to int which automatically doe sthat
L1430[20:09:11] <S3_> omg the computer sleep is so unreliable.. sigh
L1431[20:09:39] <S3_> gamax92: I really think I may have to encode it into some buffer for the computronics speaker
L1432[20:09:46] <S3_> at least that way I can make it almost as fast as I want
L1433[20:10:22] <gamax92> S3_: can't you just like ... write a custom sleep?
L1434[20:10:42] <S3_> unreliable.
L1435[20:10:44] <gamax92> no
L1436[20:11:31] <S3_> my problem is that the ammount of time sleep sleeps is not reliable at all. sometimes it doesn't sleep at ALL
L1437[20:11:39] <S3_> and then two beeps get mashed into one making a dit sound like a dah
L1438[20:11:48] <S3_> even when the delay is 0.5 seconds
L1439[20:12:03] <S3_> like right now, a 4 came out as ...-
L1440[20:12:08] <S3_> which it is actually ....-
L1441[20:12:47] <S3_> wait a minute..
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L1443[20:14:19] <S3_> I think I got it
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L1446[20:16:21] <S3_> gamax92: working beautifully :)
L1447[20:16:27] <S3_> it's just a little slow nbut nothing I can do about that
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L1449[20:21:01] <S3_> a blocking for loop made it a bit better
L1450[20:23:54] <gamax92> :/
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L1457[20:29:34] <S3_> OH NO!
L1458[20:29:46] <S3_> computer is in an infinite loop!
L1459[20:29:57] <S3_> I can't stop it lololol
L1460[20:30:10] <gamax92> fucking russians.
L1461[20:30:27] <S3_> isn't there a way to reboot by force?
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L1463[20:30:41] <S3_> er not reboot
L1464[20:30:44] <S3_> but kill
L1465[20:30:49] <gm|and> turn it off and on again
L1466[20:31:01] <S3_> not that way
L1467[20:31:02] <S3_> :P
L1468[20:31:31] <gm|and> what kind of comp
L1469[20:31:45] <S3_> OC
L1470[20:31:52] <gm|and> if we are talking OC then dont use luaj
L1471[20:32:04] <S3_> it desn't..
L1472[20:32:10] <S3_> it has its own lua binary
L1473[20:32:20] <gm|and> what cpu type
L1474[20:32:39] <S3_> default? which I think is lua 5.2
L1475[20:32:39] <gm|and> yanking the ram out is fun
L1476[20:32:54] <S3_> well I'm busy trying to fix this crazy code :D
L1477[20:33:05] <gm|and> on ocmips it shits itself right away
L1478[20:33:33] <gm|and> although it would be fun getting the cache to work and running the code entirely in cache
L1479[20:33:55] <S3_> it's.. almost working..
L1480[20:34:27] <S3_> with ocmips can we please have a reliable high recisison timer? :D
L1481[20:34:40] <S3_> you woyuldn't believe what I am doing
L1482[20:35:18] <gm|and> sure
L1483[20:36:12] <S3_> I got a script that does morse code with computer.beep :D
L1484[20:38:39] <gamax92> My MC account got hacked.
L1485[20:39:35] <Mimiru> o_O
L1486[20:41:19] <SoraFirestorm> gamax92: oops
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L1488[20:46:38] <S3_> it's WORKING!
L1489[20:46:47] <S3_> gamax92: wait
L1490[20:46:49] <S3_> wat
L1491[20:46:56] <S3_> don't use passwd for password?
L1492[20:49:22] <gm|and> so far ocmips just has 20Hz mc tick oslt
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L1495[20:49:38] <gm|and> but yeah i could do 100ms or even higher
L1496[20:49:47] <gm|and> erm 100Hz
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L1500[21:45:45] <greaser|q> for some reason my phone restarted because it couldn't find the sim card
L1501[21:45:50] <greaser|q> fairly new phone and fairly new sim
L1502[21:45:51] <SoraFirestorm> that's smart
L1503[21:45:53] <SoraFirestorm> gg phone
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L1506[21:57:11] <gamax92> note to self, subtract small epsilon when doing sleep
L1507[21:57:29] <gamax92> gets around double rounding error
L1508[22:16:25] <gamax92> "Your password must contain two upper case letters, two lower case letters, two numbers, two symbols, and must be between 8 to 20 characters."
L1509[22:16:43] <gamax92> Why is this a thing, ... all this does is make it more likely for you to forget your password and easier to crack
L1510[22:17:16] <gamax92> anyone who's trying to get your password can look on the registration page for the constraints, and eliminate all guesses that don't fit them
L1511[22:24:58] <greaser|q> "Your password must contain a letter of appraisal of this company's amazingly good password system... and you're limited to a pithy 8 characters"
L1512[22:25:08] <gamax92> lol
L1513[22:25:15] <greaser|q> seriously, fuck the 16 char limit that seems to be almost common practice
L1514[22:25:42] <greaser|q> correct horse battery staples are considered to be the best, except by these fuckwits
L1515[22:30:13] <snowden89> lol our work one
L1516[22:30:15] <snowden89> was fun
L1517[22:30:17] <snowden89> well last jobs one
L1518[22:30:25] <snowden89> needed to be 18 characters long
L1519[22:30:31] <snowden89> abide by above restrictions
L1520[22:30:39] <snowden89> and change monthly
L1521[22:33:03] <greaser|q> SecurePassword001#
L1522[22:38:26] <Mimiru> http://speedof.me/show.php?img=160318033820-4857.png q_q
L1523[22:38:50] <gamax92> Mimiru: delicious!
L1524[22:38:58] <rashy> on the bright side, that's a much better upload to download ratio than most people
L1525[22:40:25] <Mimiru> lol...
L1526[22:40:42] <Mimiru> It's supposed to be closer to 20 mbit / 2mbit
L1527[22:40:51] <rashy> xD
L1528[22:42:33] <Mimiru> Fuck my ISP... http://michi.pc-logix.com/chrome_2016-03-17_22-42-10.png
L1529[22:43:54] <Mimiru> Oh... fucking peering with Windstream now
L1530[22:43:58] <Mimiru> no god damn wonder
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L1532[23:00:08] <SoraFirestorm> see,
L1533[23:00:12] <SoraFirestorm> the thing about it is
L1534[23:00:22] <SoraFirestorm> if you're doing passwords correctly
L1535[23:00:25] <SoraFirestorm> you're hashing it
L1536[23:00:35] <SoraFirestorm> and the result hash is the same size
L1537[23:00:40] <SoraFirestorm> 1 character or 9001 characters
L1538[23:01:00] <SoraFirestorm> so there's no real good reason to limit password length
L1539[23:03:03] <v^> SoraFirestorm, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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L1541[23:03:19] <v^> the reason password limits exist
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L1543[23:03:31] <v^> is because a modern computer can crack 7 character passwords
L1544[23:04:01] <SoraFirestorm> v^: limit on the high end, not the low end
L1545[23:04:15] <SoraFirestorm> minimum length is fine and understandable
L1546[23:04:21] <v^> ah
L1547[23:04:29] <SoraFirestorm> maximum length is stupid and a sign of a system designed by a moron
L1548[23:05:08] <v^> i mean, if the hash function has a shitty mixing function (SHA-2 doesnt) then it might be an issue
L1549[23:05:29] <SoraFirestorm> explain for the stupid pls
L1550[23:05:30] <v^> but only after the "block" size of the hashing function
L1551[23:06:46] <v^> SoraFirestorm, okay so sha256 has a 256 (big suprise) bit internal "block" size
L1552[23:07:04] <v^> so if the input is greater than 256 bits what does it do?
L1553[23:08:09] <v^> basically it hashes each chunk
L1554[23:08:18] <v^> but a crappy one might just xor each segment together
L1555[23:11:53] <SoraFirestorm> the solution is to fix your damn hash
L1556[23:12:07] <SoraFirestorm> but maybe that's my inner idealist talking :)
L1557[23:19:18] <gamax92> salting
L1558[23:20:27] <v^> i would make a sodium joke but Na
L1559[23:21:34] <gamax92> har har har so funny rofl lol
L1560[23:21:35] <gamax92> Totally haven't heard that joke a million times.
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