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L16[00:33:49] <asie> Sangar: Stop snagaring
around and get back here ;-;
L17[00:35:23] <Vexatos> Indeed
L18[00:35:31] <Vexatos> Snagar needs to fix
Forecaster's MCUs
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L22[00:54:21] <payonel> %tell kodos please
retest ServerFS with my patched oc. I uploaded the jar to the
dropbox folder we share
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L26[00:57:14] <flappy> Izaya: apt-get purge
reptilian
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L31[01:18:43] <Kane_Hart> I choose
you!
L32[01:19:05] <CompanionCube> hi
L33[01:19:15] <Kane_Hart> Hello
L34[01:20:05] <Kane_Hart> working on a
small skyblock pack and snowden89 brought up you guys and I plan on
using OC only so I thought I pop in lol
L35[01:20:51] <snowden89> lol highlight for
the win
L36[01:21:02] <snowden89> VanillaBean:
would be happy to see one that is finished
L37[01:21:41] <Kane_Hart> Maybe with HQM
later on in the tree's I will have a section for OC
L38[01:21:53] <VanillaBean> thanks
snowden89. Payback i guess
L39[01:21:54] <Kane_Hart> and maybe users
will earn say a program or 2 as rewards
L40[01:21:57] <Kane_Hart> things made by
the community
L41[01:22:46] <snowden89> :P
L42[01:22:52] <snowden89> i need to lurk
less
L43[01:22:59] <snowden89> and actually do
stuff
L44[01:23:21] <snowden89> so many projects
and concepts and ideas that still waiting on me to start
L45[01:23:49] <Vexatos> Kane_Hart, does the
pack have Computronics? :3
L46[01:25:34] <Kane_Hart> :O No but I guess
it better. Let me make sure it's a curse forge mod :P
L48[01:26:26] <Vexatos> Kane_Hart, it is
not but you can add it :P
L49[01:26:53] <Kane_Hart> ok hehe. I will
add it to my outside of curse forge list
L50[01:27:28] <Vexatos> Computronics and
asielib were amongst the first mods to appear on the non-curseforge
permission list thinger
L51[01:29:17] <Kane_Hart> ahh
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L55[01:58:09] <Forecaster> oc's
wrench/screwdriver mashup tool
L56[01:58:18] <Forecaster> woops
L57[01:58:27] <Kane_Hart> :O
L58[01:58:33] <Kane_Hart> Turtle must be a
spy from CC
L59[01:59:21] <Turtle> ??? ???????
L60[01:59:52] <Turtle> And this is where I
run before people figure out I made the russian-spy joke
L61[02:00:48] <Kane_Hart> you know must of
us have no installed support for other langue types :P
L62[02:01:31] <snowden89> veinminer
lol
L63[02:01:37] <snowden89> add dirt to the
list
L64[02:01:40] <snowden89> :P
L65[02:01:42] <snowden89> Kane_Hart:
L66[02:02:04] <Kane_Hart> well
L67[02:02:11] <Kane_Hart> it's suppose to
be a video game
L68[02:02:17] <Kane_Hart> not wack a mole
simulator
L69[02:02:30] <Kane_Hart> I feel for a
skyblock map its worth while :P
L70[02:02:37] <snowden89> lol i mean
more
L71[02:02:38] <Kane_Hart> But maybe instead
I will make the start less grindy
L72[02:02:41] <snowden89> for the adding
dirt
L73[02:02:41] <Kane_Hart> more :P
L74[02:02:46] <snowden89> to the veinminer
list
L75[02:02:56] <Kane_Hart> im so confused
:P
L76[02:02:57] <snowden89> so if you try and
shovel dirt
L77[02:03:07] <snowden89> it removes all
the dirt
L78[02:03:09] <snowden89> ie
L79[02:03:10] <snowden89> death : P
L80[02:03:16] <Kane_Hart> hah
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L89[02:36:43] <snowden89> you say that but
i dont wanna have ruby or javascript
L90[02:36:52] <snowden89> being a long term
thing in my life
L91[02:37:02] <snowden89> i may just go
learn go and rust
L92[02:37:14] <snowden89> you know
L93[02:37:18] <snowden89> keep me
unemployed
L94[02:37:20] <snowden89> ?
L95[02:38:17] <Izaya> I also want neither
in my life.
L96[02:38:31] <Izaya> Nor PHP nor anything
created by Apple
L97[02:38:49] <snowden89> oh but dont you
just love the objective-C in the morning
L98[02:39:31] <Izaya> I would prefer
Holy-C
L99[02:39:43] <Izaya> though I'm not
religious
L100[02:40:18] <snowden89> but they make
good seats?
L101[02:41:32] <Izaya> no idea
L102[02:46:16] <snowden89> only know about
holy C or anything like that due to CPP Grey ? whatever youtube
channel
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L108[03:06:30] <snowden89> lol
L109[03:06:46] <snowden89> see i think
this is a great idea
L110[03:07:04] <snowden89> all the crazy
catholic/christians can use this
L111[03:07:19] <snowden89> it keeps them
off the web and away from comment sections
L112[03:07:30] <snowden89> there usual
breeding ground
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L115[03:12:52] <KittyKath> snowden89: If
Go & Rust keep you unemployed you're just looking at the wrong
companies.
L116[03:13:03] <g> snowden89: to be fair,
TempleOS is pretty interesting on its own
L117[03:14:00] <g> I mean, outside of
being targeted at the bible-bashers, it's really quite an
achievement given that the entire thing was done by one guy
L118[03:14:08] *
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again
L119[03:14:24] <g> KittyKath: No companies
in ireland want Go or Rust at the moment
L120[03:14:31] <KittyKath> g: Meh, its a
really simple OS. There are other people who have written more C
code in their life.
L121[03:14:33] <g> it's all Node and
PHP
L122[03:14:39] <g> or java
L124[03:16:14] <g> would appreciate it if
someone finds something that's broken
L125[03:16:38] <g> (CompanionCube found a
problem specific to his firefox setup on linux for example)
L126[03:16:56] <KittyKath> Less than 281
pixel screen width :P
L127[03:17:47] <g> that does look pretty
funky
L128[03:17:52] <g> not sure how realistic
that scenario is though :P
L129[03:17:59] <KittyKath> Also Menu with
noscript
L130[03:18:11] <g> oh right, the
menu
L131[03:18:16] <g> yeah, I was going to
get rid of that anyway
L132[03:18:17] <g> it's just icons
L133[03:18:50] <snowden89> well fan art
and metrics go no where
L134[03:18:53] <snowden89> :P
L135[03:18:56] <snowden89> but that is not
a bug
L136[03:19:05] <g> this is a mockup,
so
L138[03:19:31] <KittyKath> Also Features
goes switches from three wells per line to one without displaying
two (762px width should have two wells next to each other)
L139[03:19:58] <KittyKath> Also use a
font-face for the icons ffs .-.
L141[03:20:05] <g> the icons are
font-awesome
L142[03:20:12] <KittyKath> so?
L143[03:20:17] <g> so.. they are a font
face
L144[03:20:18] <g> aren't they?
L145[03:20:25] <g> just implemented
differently
L146[03:20:54] <g> yeah, they are
L147[03:21:01] <KittyKath> Oh, noscript
blocks font-face now. Who the fuck thought thats a good idea?
.-.
L148[03:21:14] <g> I'm actually impressed
that someone here uses noscript
L150[03:21:18] <g> it does help me test
though
L151[03:21:33] <g> probably because some
types of fonts can be scripted
L152[03:21:51] <KittyKath> You're
impressed that in a channel like this where half the people can't
decide which to hate more JS or PHP that people block both?
L154[03:22:12] <g> you can block
php?
L156[03:22:28] <g> also yeah, I don't
typically design with noscript users in mind, but this is
different
L157[03:22:35] <KittyKath> g: On my own
server? Yep.
L158[03:22:51] <g> that's not really a
browser thing.
L159[03:22:59] <KittyKath> You could
probably make something with <noscript> and pure text
replacement btw
L160[03:23:02] *
Izaya uses one dynamic page on his site: the main page with blog
entries. It uses apache2's mod_lua
L161[03:23:10] <KittyKath> Not even
mod_lisp?
L162[03:23:16] <KittyKath> I am
dissapoint
L163[03:23:27] <g> lordy, I guess I
shouldn't be surprised at a mod_lua existing
L165[03:23:32] <vifino> I thought you'd be
KittyKath.
L166[03:23:37] <g> anyway I need to fix
that header first..
L167[03:23:42] <KittyKath> vifino: You're
not a dad yet.
L168[03:23:45] <Izaya> Hey, it works and I
got it done quickly
L169[03:23:53] <vifino> KittyKath: I need
to train bad jokes.
L171[03:24:20] <KittyKath> I beg to
whatever god that there are many years to pass before you become
dad.
L172[03:25:20] <vifino> KittyKath: I don't
plan to become dad anytime soon.
L173[03:25:33] <vifino> Though I don
L174[03:25:35] <vifino> ...
L175[03:25:41] <vifino> fuck you
enter
L176[03:25:52] <vifino> Though I don't
think I'll be a bad dad. :D
L177[03:26:18] <snowden89> vifino, how
could you say that i am on my 6 trimester you said you would be
there for us
L178[03:26:25] <vifino> After all, I can
make (b|d)ad jokes easily. ish.
L179[03:26:48] <vifino> snowden89:
tl;dr
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L181[03:27:24] <Forecaster> is 6
trimesters actually 18 mesters?
L183[03:28:17] <snowden89> life gave us
pomelo's and horny manderins?
L184[03:28:23] <snowden89> the fruit not
the language
L185[03:28:28] <vifino> Yes.
L186[03:29:05] <vifino> KittyKath: Wat
install on my new rig.
L187[03:29:11] <vifino> Gentoo or
Arch?
L188[03:29:19] <KittyKath> whatever you
want
L189[03:29:24] <vifino> q_q
L190[03:29:26] <KittyKath> g: <a
class="header-tab"
href="#">Something</a> Meh :P
L191[03:29:28] <vifino> I can't
decide.
L192[03:29:39] <Izaya> vifino: nix
L193[03:29:47] <vifino> Izaya:
nixos?
L194[03:29:53] <Izaya> yes
L195[03:29:55] <g> KittyKath: Huh?
:P
L196[03:29:56] <KittyKath> g: Also your
page is about 0% screenreader enabled, not sure if you care
though.
L197[03:30:04] <vifino> But but but, can I
rice there, Izaya?
L198[03:30:08] <g> I'll get to that at
some point
L199[03:30:16] <Izaya> well it builds
everything from source so I imagine so
L200[03:30:27] <KittyKath> g: Have fun,
implementing that as an afterthought is quite a pain.
L201[03:30:31] <Izaya> it doesn't take 100
years to compile everything, too
L202[03:30:53] <vifino> Izaya: Not on a
4.5ghz 8 core.
L203[03:31:13] <Izaya> not on a 3.6Ghz i3
either
L204[03:31:13] <g> KittyKath: is the
reverse of noscript just inserting something with JS?
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L206[03:31:23] <g> would rather not have
to do that..
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L208[03:31:39] <Forecaster> the reverse of
noscript is script
L209[03:31:40] <KittyKath> g: What?
L210[03:31:40] <Forecaster> :P
L211[03:32:03] <g> Well you mentioned it
blocks font-face
L212[03:32:15] <g> but I'd like those
links to be visible for noscript users
L213[03:32:58] <vifino> wat. no
/usr?
L214[03:33:03] <vifino> well fuck that. I
love me some /usr.
L215[03:33:55] <g> hm, maybe the title
attr can do it
L216[03:36:06] <vifino> Funtoo it should
be.
L217[03:37:11] <vifino> Oh, SystemRescueCD
is based on Gentoo?
L218[03:37:15] <vifino> TIL.
L219[03:40:21] <vifino> I kinda want to
use syslinux for this...
L220[03:40:29] <vifino> Because, ya know,
syslinux is fun.
L221[03:40:40] <vifino> Much saner configs
than grub.
L222[03:40:50] <vifino> Plus it got fun
stuff like lua :D
L223[03:41:48] *
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Thing
L224[03:41:49] <vifino> ~
L225[03:42:33] <vifino> Wait, can windows
be installed in lvm?
L226[03:43:13] <g> KittyKath: Well I fixed
the wells/cards
L227[03:43:15] <g> flexbox ftw
L228[03:43:31] *
Lizzy groans
L229[03:44:13] *
vifino kisses Lizzy and pets her
L230[03:55:30] *
Lizzy purrs softly and curls up in vifino's lap
L231[03:56:13] <Lizzy> stupid console spam
invading my ssh session
L233[03:56:15] <vifino> :)
L234[03:56:43] <vifino> Oh, right, I
wanted to try to boot my laptop's arch install on my desktop
L235[03:56:47] <vifino> o/
L236[03:56:58] <Lizzy> \o
L237[03:57:05] <Lizzy> Shouldn't be too
hard to do
L238[04:08:27] <vifino> I'm back!
\o/
L239[04:08:34] *
vifino kisses Lizzy all over
L240[04:12:20] <vifino> I mean, my display
port cable broke, so it's only at 30hz, but running all the things
at 4k is pretty cool.
L241[04:23:46] *
Lizzy returns the kisses
L242[04:24:08] *
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L243[04:24:15] *
Lizzy pets Saphire
L244[04:24:35] *
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L245[04:25:36] <Lizzy> is it bad that i
just added "alias :q=exit" to my .bashrc?
L246[04:26:09] <vifino> nope.
L247[04:26:29] <vifino> I also have :e
aliased to vim
L248[04:26:30] <vifino> :P
L249[04:27:27] <Lizzy> brb, restarting
laptop cause i accedentially tried to startx with optirun and now
the gpu wont turn off
L250[04:27:33] <Izaya> all of my aliases
are insults
L251[04:27:38] <vifino> :/
L252[04:27:48] <Izaya> that may say
something about me
L253[04:27:58] <vifino> Izaya: alias
fucking=sudo?
L254[04:28:29] <Izaya> alias
fucking='sudo'
L255[04:28:31] <Izaya> alias fuckyou='sudo
$(fc -ln -1)'
L256[04:28:42] <vifino> aha, yes.
L257[04:28:43] <Izaya> a sample
L258[04:28:45] <Saphire> fucking rm
-rf
L259[04:28:58] <Izaya> I do have two
non-insult aliases though
L260[04:29:07] <Izaya> paste and
startvnc
L261[04:30:34] <vifino> I should get a kvm
switch.
L262[04:30:42] <Lizzy> yay, ssl library
for Python3.5 on arch is borked
L263[04:31:00] <vifino> :/
L264[04:31:20] <Lizzy> well
L265[04:31:22] <Lizzy> okay
L266[04:31:34] <Lizzy> the one in the venv
is broked, the systemwide one works fine
L267[04:31:40] <vifino> lol
L268[04:31:45] <g> delete venv and start
again \o/
L269[04:40:14] <Lizzy> that seems ot have
worked
L270[04:40:28] <g> ..christ, google, what
are you doing now
L271[04:40:39] <g> you might have noticed
the yt logo with a group of women next to it
L272[04:41:10] <g> "#OwnYourVoice:
Standing Up for Gender Equality" - a google-sponsored yt video
about gender equality with only one male in the entire video
L273[04:41:18] <g> equality
L275[04:41:31] <Saphire> as opposed
to...?
L276[04:41:38] <g> as opposed to actual
equality
L277[04:41:46] <g> it's a video about
female empowerment - the usual sjw stuff
L278[04:41:48] <Saphire> I mean, one male
per how many? XD
L279[04:42:21] <Saphire> inb4 that one guy
being used in examples of how bad they are >_>
L280[04:42:27] <g> haha, no
L281[04:42:29] <g> he's one of them
L283[04:42:38] <g> something about being
"sick of 'girl' being an insult"
L284[04:43:05] <g> (I've never seen that
._.)
L285[04:43:25] <Saphire> ._.
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L289[05:31:41] ***
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L290[05:32:20] *
Vexatos pokes Sangar
L291[05:32:46] <Vexatos> %tell Sangar Is
it possible to make a ram stick that provides infinite RAM without
causing integer overflow? >_>
L292[05:32:48] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L293[05:37:21] <Saphire> dynamically
allocate memory?
L294[05:45:30] <vifino> I chose funtoo,
cause it's fun to compile everything.
L295[05:45:38] <g> I just found the best
channel ever
L297[05:45:42] <g> (Listen to some of the
songs)
L298[05:46:26] <vifino> g: OST
uploader=
L301[05:46:32] <g> listen to them
L302[05:46:36] <vifino> nah
L303[05:46:55] <g> they're not OSTs.
L304[05:46:56] <vifino> I'm currently
listening to mozart while I am downloading funtoo.
L305[05:46:57] <g> well, not exactly
L306[05:47:24] <vifino> Well, switched
from mozart to Immortal - Triumpth now
L307[05:47:33] <vifino> nice change from
classic to metal
L308[05:50:34] <g> god, those are
hilarious
L309[05:50:38] <g> I haven't laughed this
hard in a while
L311[05:50:58] <KittyKath> g: What annoys
me is that they call it gender equality when it's actually about
female empowerment. There's only one person in the video who talks
about actual gender equality in that they want "Women [to]
have the same social, political and economic opportunities as
men".
L312[05:51:13] <g> KittyKath: yeah, that's
exactly the problem I have with it
L313[05:51:19] <g> quite annoying
L314[05:51:58] <KittyKath> Female
empowerment is not SJW however.
L315[05:52:05] <KittyKath> Actually quite
the opposite.
L316[05:52:08] <g> yeah, I probably worded
it badly
L317[05:52:14] <g> you got what I was
getting at
L319[05:52:49] <KittyKath> You worded it
very badly in that you never even said what your actual problem is
then.
L320[05:53:29] <KittyKath> And you said
that female empowerment is the "usual sjw stuff"
L321[05:54:22] *
Saphire flops
L322[05:54:26] <Saphire> oh gosh
L323[05:54:43] <Saphire> You two are
arguing again?
L324[05:54:56] <KittyKath> No?
L325[05:55:03] * g
scratches head
L326[05:55:10] *
Saphire takes out some notes and draws a line on them, scribbling
something
L327[05:55:28] *
Saphire drops the notes (the disappear o.o) and purrrs, her glasses
on ^^
L328[05:55:31] <g> Yeah, sorry, I was too
busy being annoyed at the actual annoying stuff instead of thinking
about what I was typing
L329[05:55:44] <Saphire> Happens \o/
L330[05:55:47] *
Saphire patpats g
L331[05:56:00] <KittyKath> There's nothing
actually annoying in the video though? Only in the video
description :P
L332[05:56:47] <vifino> Wow, the funtoo
servers are slow today.
L333[05:56:49] <vifino> .-.
L334[05:57:03] <KittyKath> It's just a few
people who have set themselves goals and are now trying to reach
them. And they happen to have support by Google because supporting
those issues gives Google bonus points with their main consumer
market.
L335[05:57:51] <g> They got seven female
youtubers to talk about "gender equality"
L336[05:57:59] <KittyKath> So?
L337[05:57:59] <g> it's annoying because
it's so typical
L338[05:58:17] <KittyKath> They talk about
their own respecitve projects. You don't have to support
those.
L339[05:59:10] <g> because you can get
only a one-sided perspective from one gender and call it
representative of equality :P
L340[06:00:01] <KittyKath> Oh because all
people can only ever understand what they themselves experienced?
FFS woman can of course understand what man are going trough and
the other way around. But that's not even the point of this
video.
L341[06:00:21] <g> it's not the point of
the video, yeah
L342[06:00:28] <g> but that's how it's
billed
L343[06:01:25] <KittyKath> That video is a
bunch of youtubers giving a very brief overview of their channels
(more or less). They are now in the position of Change Ambassador
of the UN. Nothing more is billed.
L344[06:01:56] <Saphire> :|
L345[06:02:17] <g> ..the title of the
video is literally "gender equality"
L346[06:02:23] <g> and it's promoted
sitewide, right next to the youtube icon
L347[06:03:00] <KittyKath> Well, the video
is an ad (more or less) for the United Nations Sustainable
Development Goals Action Campaign.
L348[06:03:05] <Saphire> uh
L349[06:03:06] <g> they should stick with
youtube rewind :P
L350[06:03:09] <g> yeah, I suppose
so
L351[06:03:17] <KittyKath> And that one is
about actual gender equality.
L352[06:07:26] <Lizzy> \o/ Dark theme on
hexchat get
L353[06:07:51] <vifino> \o/
L354[06:07:58] <g> What does hexchat's
theme options look like?
L356[06:08:04] <g> colours
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L371[07:18:49] <vifino> You know you run
gentoo when you are using your rig as a pizza heater
L372[07:22:11] <g> ...lol
L373[07:22:18] <vifino> Kernel built in
5m30s. Hooray.
L374[07:23:15] <vifino> g: That wasn't a
joke, by the way.
L375[07:23:22] <g> still funny
L377[07:25:23] <vifino> So far, it seems
my overclock is stable.
L378[07:25:24] <vifino> Yay.
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L380[07:26:09] <vifino> Man, installing a
kernel with the aur's help is very much easier.
L381[07:26:13] <vifino> :(
L382[07:26:23] <g> but then you dont' get
to use emerge
L384[07:26:32] <vifino> Building your own
initramfs by hand is bleh.
L385[07:26:43] <vifino> g: Which is why I
have funtoo.
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L389[07:38:09] ***
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L390[07:41:37] <vifino> Imma reboot and
hope shit doesn't hit the fan.
L391[07:41:39] <vifino> o/
L392[07:43:29] *
Vexatos imagines shit hitting a fan.
L393[07:43:32] *
Vexatos quickly unimagines.
L395[07:50:16] <MichiBot> g:
タイムマシン
(Time Machine) - Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA Æ’ | length:
3m
9s | Likes:
543 Dislikes:
1 Views:
14302 | by
GiIvaSunner
L396[08:02:48] ⇦
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L398[08:08:32] <Lizzy> lol, half my panel
widgets died at some point and i've only just noticed the
"plugin has crashed, reload?" dialog boxes
L399[08:09:17] ⇦
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L400[08:26:09] <Lizzy> %tell Temia see yo
pms gurll ~o~
L401[08:26:10] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Temia
will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L407[08:34:30] *
Lizzy has the SPR gene
L408[08:35:37] *
Saphire wonders what Lizzy pms to Temia o.o
L409[08:35:42] *
Saphire is stalky stalk >_>
L410[08:36:09] <Lizzy> no
L411[08:36:17] <Lizzy> just telling her
that Athar now has Java8 on it
L412[08:36:30] <Saphire> \o/
L413[08:36:47] <Kodos> Ugh, I wanna play
Starbound but it's unplayable on this onboard
L414[08:40:49] <gamax92> hi.
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L416[08:41:47] <Saphire> sup
L417[08:42:22] <gamax92> sad
L418[08:46:42] *
Lizzy sighs
L419[08:48:33] <Lizzy> .load
L420[08:48:33] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.16 0.22
0.29 , RAM: 18.7G/31.3G (~59.8%), SWAP: 499.9M/88.2G (~0.6%)
L421[08:48:48] <Saphire> .LOAD
L422[08:48:52] <Saphire> aww
L423[08:48:54] <Saphire> .load
L424[08:49:22] ⇦
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L425[08:49:31] ***
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L426[08:51:18] <Lizzy> it wont do it for
you
L427[08:55:14] <Saphire> i noticed
:P
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L430[09:09:07] <payonel> Kodos: did you
see my message about a possible ServerFS compatibility fix?
L431[09:09:22] <Kodos> Nope
L432[09:09:48] <payonel> (copy+paste) tell
kodos please retest ServerFS with my patched oc. I uploaded the jar
to the dropbox folder we share
L433[09:10:00] <Kodos> I'll do that in a
bit
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L438[09:44:34] *
vifino is listening to Hollywood Undead – Apologize
L439[09:44:39] <vifino> One hell of a
song.
L440[09:47:40] <Lizzy> Hollywood Undead is
cool
L441[09:48:57] <vifino> Indeed.
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L443[09:59:12] *
Kimiro murders all the peasants
L444[10:00:00] <vifino> As long don't
murder anyone I like, I won't stop you.
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L454[10:41:25] *
payonel gives kodos a chocolate mint cookie
L456[10:42:29] <MichiBot> Inari:
ElectroSWING || Offbeat - 90s Kid (Free Download) | length:
4m 53s | Likes:
656
Dislikes:
279 Views:
24753 |
by
Funky Pandaâ„¢
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L458[10:42:59] *
Lizzy prods Forecaster2
L459[10:43:08] <Lizzy> no cloning
L460[10:44:35]
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L462[10:45:04] <g> (3DNES beta)
L463[10:45:15] ***
cbcercas|AFK is now known as cbcercas
L464[10:45:28] *
vifino thinks about multiple Lizzies
L465[10:45:30] *
vifino giggles
L466[10:47:44] <Lizzy> :3
L467[10:47:58]
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L468[10:48:35] <Lizzy> casually restoring
a year old DO image ot get log files
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L470[10:57:07] <Lizzy> okay, so been
staring at the digital ocean droplet creation screen for about 5
minutes now, with it still saying "30 seconds
remaining"
L471[11:00:44] <Lizzy> 4 minutes later
still "30 seconds remaining"
L472[11:01:35] <vifino> .-.
L473[11:06:24] <Lizzy> still going 5
minutes later
L474[11:07:53] <vifino> Lizzy: you should
wait a bit longer and then poke the DO support and ask them what
the hell they are doing
L475[11:10:55] <Turtle> Grr a bot denied
my cellular contract application
L477[11:12:17] *
Lizzy signs
L478[11:12:23] *
Lizzy sighs*
L479[11:12:30] *
Lizzy wants a real hug :(
L480[11:13:46] <Turtle> Automated credit
rating tracking
L481[11:14:19] <Turtle> aparently the
company doing it is known to be terrible, and I'm not even sure if
it is allowed to make this decision automaticly according to recent
EU law
L482[11:14:25] <Turtle> but I am not going
to lawyer up for this
L483[11:15:15] ***
medsouz|offline is now known as medsouz
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L488[11:53:38] <Sangar> o/
L489[11:53:58] <Sangar> i hate this time
of the year -.-
L490[11:54:33] <payonel> Sangar:
hello
L491[11:54:40] <Sangar> hey
L492[11:54:43] <payonel> Sangar: getting a
release ready?
L493[11:55:08] <Sangar> i fell ill again
\o/ so no closer than last week :X
L494[11:55:47] <payonel> what is it?
respitory?
L495[11:58:39] <Sangar> mhm, been coughing
my lungs out over the weekend; plus fever, and whatever else comes
with it. better now tho.
L496[12:00:13] *
KittyKath hugs Sangar
L497[12:00:20] <KittyKath> Get well soon!
:(
L498[12:00:46] *
Kimiro gives Sangar the number of a respected
cyberneticist.
L499[12:01:04] <Sangar> thanks :P
L500[12:01:13] <vifino> KittyKath: You're
an idiot
L501[12:01:19] *
Lizzy pets KittyKath
L502[12:01:42] <Lizzy> right, is my laptop
going to like going to sleep...
L503[12:01:54] <Sangar> i'm mostly over it
now i think. good enough to work and infect everyone there at least
\o/ (well, probably not, since i most likely got it at work, but
one can dream)
L504[12:04:32] <payonel> will lua 5.3 cpu
ever be default?
L505[12:06:16] <Sangar> i hope so
L506[12:06:30] <Kodos> Would you accept a
PR making it so?
L507[12:06:32] <Sangar> maybe 1.7
L508[12:06:58] <Sangar> the change is...
one changed letter or so :X i'm more concerned about
compatibility
L509[12:07:06] <payonel> Sangar: btw,
devfs was simple and fun, sadly, it added like 3k cost to boot. i'm
not ready to PR it
L510[12:07:08] <Kodos> Ahh, fair
enough
L511[12:07:12] <gamax92> 5.3 can break
compatibility
L512[12:07:28] <ping> ayy im back
L513[12:07:34] <ping> stupid hospital
wifi
L514[12:07:35] <Sangar> payonel, ah, well.
could it be installed modularly / loot disky?
L515[12:07:44] <ping> i dont like
hospitals :(
L516[12:07:56] <payonel> absolutely, i'm
fine even with an oppm for it
L517[12:07:57] ***
Tedster_ is now known as Tedster
L518[12:08:29] *
Inari sprays Lizzy's forehead with cat-forehead-scented spray and
rubs cat-paw-scented handcream onto her hands
L519[12:08:45] *
gamax92 pokes vifino
L520[12:09:20] <vifino> ?
L521[12:09:29] ⇦
Quits: fingercomp
(~fingercom@host-46-50-128-141.bbcustomer.zsttk.net) (Quit: Sleep
time)
L522[12:09:38] <gamax92> vifino: why do
you never greet me anymore :c
L523[12:09:39] <vifino> ping: why the fuck
are you in a hospital
L524[12:09:48] <vifino> gamax92: I
dunno
L525[12:09:54] <Sangar> payonel, or
both!
L526[12:09:57] <ping> vifino, my mom has
an appointment before my the rapist
L527[12:10:00] <vifino> I can do that
again, if you want
L528[12:10:08] <ping> dont worry
L529[12:10:16] <ping> my stupidity diddnt
hospitalize me.. again
L530[12:10:24] <vifino> ping: pffffffffft,
i am not worried, just dissapointed
L531[12:10:24] <gamax92> not if your
forcing yourself to, but I appreciated it
L532[12:10:34] <ping> i c vifino
L533[12:10:43] <ping> y dont you love
me
L534[12:11:11] <vifino> Dunno.
L535[12:11:48] <ping> WAT?
L536[12:11:52] <ping> this wifi blocks
ssh
L537[12:12:08] <ping> but not $%^#ing 6698
(my znc port)
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L539[12:12:46] <ping> WAIT I GOT IN
L540[12:12:52] <ping> i forgot i also
forwarded ssh to 420
L541[12:13:14] ***
rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L542[12:13:36] <vifino> blazey
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L544[12:13:41] <vifino> blimey*
L545[12:13:42] <vifino> woops
L546[12:13:51] <ping> blazey
L547[12:15:19] <ping> D: hospitals are
scary
L548[12:21:08] ***
cbcercas is now known as cbcercas|AFK
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L550[12:23:11] <payonel> absolutely, i'm
fine even with an oppm for it
L551[12:23:25] ⇦
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client closed)
L552[12:24:31] <Vexatos>
<Sangar>
i'm more concerned about
compatibility
L553[12:24:34] <Vexatos> something
something openos
L554[12:24:37] <Vexatos> something
bit32
L555[12:24:43] <Vexatos> something ipairs
hack
L556[12:24:45] <Vexatos> something
something
L557[12:24:46] *
Sangar stabs Vexatos and hides the corpse
L558[12:25:02] <Sangar> you all saw
nothing
L559[12:25:05] <Sangar> just so we're
clear
L560[12:25:29] <Vexatos> Also hi
snagar
L561[12:25:39] <Vexatos> Forecaster has a
bug for you.
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L563[12:26:08] <Forecaster> what murder?!
what?
L564[12:26:26] <Vexatos> apparently MCUs
will never have worked and/or will never have been working at
all.
L565[12:26:42] <Forecaster> they error on
server start.
L566[12:28:19] <Vexatos> apparently all
components inside the MCU disappear
L567[12:28:33] <Vexatos> "a component
of type noodle disappeared" etc etc
L568[12:28:53] <Vexatos> so they error out
due to lack of intestines
L569[12:29:19] <Forecaster> they work fine
when started again though, until the next restart
L570[12:29:58] <Vexatos> so basically,
something is broken with the MCU's component saving
L571[12:30:01] <Vexatos> most likely
L572[12:31:07] <Sangar> yes, i murdered my
robot
L574[12:33:09] <Sangar> all in favor say
yay
L575[12:33:17] <Sangar> all opposed
stfu
L576[12:33:25] <Forecaster> looks
bolder
L577[12:33:27] <Forecaster> I say
yay
L578[12:33:31] <ping> Sangar, stfu!
jk
L579[12:33:33] <ping> yay
L580[12:33:39] <ping> i like it
L581[12:33:40] <Forecaster> all hail
readability
L582[12:33:42] <payonel> i like it
L583[12:33:47] <Sangar> readability
indeed
L584[12:33:49] <gamax92> D: hold on lemme
look
L585[12:34:13] <gamax92> Sangar:
interesting, what's the character resolution on that?
L586[12:34:30] <Sangar> 8x16
L587[12:34:40] <ping> ooooooh
L588[12:34:43] <gamax92> ahh good :3
L589[12:35:00] <ping> Sangar, does that
mean a perfect 1:2 ratio when scaling?
L590[12:35:13] <Sangar> i'd expect it to
:P
L591[12:35:14] <gamax92> ping: the current
font is also 8x16
L592[12:35:20] <Sangar> also that
L594[12:35:36] <ping> oh right im thinking
of CC's retarded font
L595[12:35:49] <Kodos> We should be able
to change fonts via a function
L596[12:35:58] <ping> stfu!
L597[12:36:05] <Kodos> Fine fine
L598[12:36:11] <Kodos> I'll go back to
whining about wanting rack mounted raids
L599[12:36:16] *
payonel throws test bits at Kodos
L601[12:36:20] <Kodos> I know, I
know
L602[12:36:25] <Kodos> I'll test it when I
can
L603[12:36:25] <payonel> :)
L604[12:36:28] <Kodos> So, Soonâ„¢
L605[12:36:35] *
payonel eats some patience-cookies
L606[12:36:35] <ping> Soonâ„¢
L607[12:36:41] <Kodos> I have to start a
load of laundry, finish it and get a shower within the next 4.5
hours
L608[12:36:45] <Sangar> anyway, asie's
compiling a more final version of the font for me, i'll give that a
run after dinner :3
L609[12:36:56] <ping> go asie!
L610[12:37:05] <Vexatos> Sangar, font
name?
L611[12:37:25] <Vexatos> also yes, asie
seems to be good at making font compilations :P
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L613[12:38:44] <asie> also
L614[12:38:47] <asie> this font is not
GPL-encumbered
L615[12:38:54] <asie> so OC will be fully,
properly and wholly MIT from now on again
L616[12:39:07] <gamax92> again?
L617[12:39:18] <asie> yes
L618[12:39:27] <asie> after OC with
Unifont came out it wasn't fully MIT... Unifont's GPLv2+ you
see
L619[12:39:27] <gamax92> was the old png
font also MIT licensed?
L620[12:39:31] <Mimiru> Wait, is someone
else doing rack mountable raids?
L621[12:39:41] <asie> in the US, fonts are
not copyrightable to begin with unless they're scalable
L622[12:39:44] <Kodos> No one is,
afaik
L623[12:39:45] <asie> but it created a
messy situation
L624[12:39:57] <Mimiru> If so I'mma throw
a party, and nuke this bastardized class from my local OS stuff
:P
L625[12:40:05] <Mimiru> Oh... damn
L626[12:40:19] <asie> in Japan, fonts are
not copyrightable period, that's how we're getting our Japanese
font
L627[12:40:41] <asie> it will be less
complete, though - Unscii, while cool, is not
all-encompassing
L628[12:40:50] <asie> it was designed to
be a public domain middle ground between most 8x16 fonts of the
late 80s and early 90s
L629[12:41:08] <asie> it is NOT perfect
and will require work, but I'm going to be doing some with a GitHub
repository
L630[12:41:35] <gamax92> asie: is it mixed
width like unifont is?
L631[12:41:51] <asie> yes, all fonts are
fixed-width unless you want really wide latin characters
L633[12:41:56] <asie> here's the
font
L634[12:42:10] <asie> a few characters
look weird as unscii began as an 8x8 font, a few characters are
scaled to 8x16 automatically to fill in the blanks
L635[12:43:58] <asie> obviously, all this
will require some handwork
L636[12:47:27] <Vexatos>
<asie>
it is NOT perfect and will require work,
but I'm going to be doing some with a GitHub
repository
L637[12:47:30] <Vexatos> so people could
like
L638[12:47:34] <Vexatos> PR tiny png
filesß
L639[12:47:38] <Vexatos> for unicode
chars?
L640[12:47:38] <Vexatos> :P
L641[12:47:54] <Vexatos> because I could
totally draw characters myself >_>
L642[12:48:08] <KittyKath> Well, I just
went from bad (Arch) to worse (Gentoo) \o/
L643[12:48:15] *
Lizzy wanders in and flops onto vifino
L644[12:48:51] <asie> Vexatos: text
files.
L645[12:48:54] <asie> .######.
L646[12:48:56] <asie> #......#
L647[12:48:59] <asie> #.#..#.#
L648[12:49:01] <asie> etc
L649[12:49:02] <Vexatos> asie, I have no
idea how character maps work
L650[12:49:09] <Vexatos> so it's literally
ascii art?
L651[12:49:13] <Vexatos> to make more
characters? :D
L652[12:49:39] <gamax92> Vexatos: actually
you have to figure out a random number seed that happens to output
the character bits desired
L653[12:50:13] <asie> Vexatos: yes
L654[12:53:17] *
Kimiro strikes a pose
L655[12:53:35] *
gamax92 take picture!
L656[12:53:36] <Kimiro> Halt, lions! I am
full of homeopathy. You cannot defeat my alt-medicine!
L657[12:53:58] *
vifino pets Lizzy and kisses her
L658[12:56:54] <Vexatos> Also, Sangar, Is
it possible to make a ram stick that provides infinite RAM without
causing integer overflow? :P
L659[12:57:13] <Vexatos> I want to add a
creative memory stick to Computronics (and call it Dedodated
wam)
L660[12:58:03] <vifino> KittyKath: You
installed gentoo?
L661[12:58:38] <KittyKath> vifino:
Maaayyyybeee >.>
L662[12:58:50] <vifino> KittyKath: Not
because I did, did you?
L663[12:59:12] <KittyKath> No?
L664[12:59:25] <vifino> Okay, good.
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L666[12:59:30] <ping> > detroit
hospital
L667[12:59:39] <KittyKath> >
Detroit
L668[12:59:58] <ping> > 4 golf
magazines on the table
L669[13:00:01] <vifino> But what do you
mean by moving from bad to worse?
L670[13:00:04] <ping> > all old white
people
L671[13:00:06] <vifino> They both are very
good.
L672[13:00:58] <KittyKath> ping: What? You
need to be rich and stupid to play golf. Stupid black people don't
get rich, smart black people do. :P
L673[13:01:48] <Sangar> back
L674[13:02:07] <Forecaster> Sangar:
!
L675[13:02:12] <Forecaster> so, about that
annoying bug
L676[13:02:15] <Sangar> Vexatos, probably
not? can't remember having an "if < 0" or so in that
code :X
L677[13:02:27] <Vexatos> Sangar, you don't
:3
L678[13:02:34] <Vexatos> But I'd love me
some Double.POSITIVE_INFINITY
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L680[13:03:17] <Sangar> :P
L681[13:03:23] <vifino> KittyKath: Why did
you install gentoo anyhow?
L682[13:03:36] <KittyKath> How does Ubuntu
call its kernel package? .-.
L683[13:03:36] <Sangar> Forecaster, do you
have a reliable way to reproduce? (ideally starting from a new
world :X)
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L685[13:04:02] <Forecaster> I haven't
tried
L686[13:04:18] <vifino> KittyKath:
linux.
L687[13:05:16] <gamax92> linux-headers-*
and linux-image-*
L688[13:05:22] <KittyKath> Apparently they
renamed it? linux-virtual?
L689[13:05:31] <gamax92> virtual includes
headers and image iirc
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L691[13:05:42] <KittyKath> That's
generic
L692[13:05:48] <gamax92> huh.
L693[13:05:53] <Forecaster> I can
though
L695[13:06:19] <vifino> KittyKath: Whhyyyy
did you install gentooo
L696[13:06:26] <KittyKath> vifino: Because
I can?
L697[13:06:33] <vifino> .-.
L698[13:07:02] <vifino> You're an idiot,
KittyKath .-.
L699[13:07:06] <g> gentoo is awesome
L701[13:08:06] <gamax92> KittyKath:
oh
L702[13:08:11] <Sangar> oh, payonel!
testing the font, i realized moving the cursor in term by clicking
is off when there's wide chars :P
L703[13:08:58] <gamax92> linux-virtual
depends on linux-image-virtual and linux-headers-virtual,
linux-image-virtual depends on the latest "generic"
version of the kernel, and linux-headers-virtual depends on the
latest headers for the "generic" kernel
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L705[13:10:08] <payonel> Sangar: i can fix
that, but it won't be quite as fast
L706[13:10:22] <payonel>
unicode.wlen()-ing everything has a cost :)
L707[13:10:27] <Sangar> i'm happy it works
at all, no hurry :P
L708[13:10:34] <payonel> though, most
users won't be testing this with really really long term.read()
buffers
L709[13:10:56] <Sangar> hm, is there no
unicode.strlen() :X
L710[13:11:00] <Sangar> or width
L711[13:11:02] <Sangar> or whatever
L712[13:11:08] <gamax92> Sangar:
unicode.len?
L713[13:11:16] <Sangar> maybe
L714[13:11:24] <gamax92> unicode.len is
number of characters
L715[13:11:25] <Sangar> idk is that chars
or width?
L716[13:11:27] <Sangar> then not
L717[13:11:28] <Sangar> :X
L718[13:11:29] <gamax92> unicode.wlen is
width
L719[13:11:35] <payonel> there is - the
issue rather is that when the user clicks in the screen, i have to
measure the string to figure out where that position is
hitting
L720[13:11:45] <gamax92> payonel: or
wtrunc abuse
L721[13:11:50] <Sangar> ah well
L722[13:11:57] <payonel> it's quite
doable
L723[13:12:03] <payonel> it's just that my
current solution is very fast
L724[13:12:06] <payonel> but wrong :
L725[13:12:07] <payonel> :)
L726[13:12:09] <Sangar> take your time
anyway, just wanted to make sure you knew
L727[13:12:14] <gamax92> can I see the
current solution
L728[13:12:20] <payonel> yes - thank
you!
L729[13:12:28] <payonel> gamax92: sure,
sec
L730[13:12:42] <payonel> Sangar: also,
another PR, but, yeah, i'm sure you've seen it and are catching
up
L731[13:12:52] <Sangar> payonel, on
it!
L732[13:13:16] <asie> okay, so
L733[13:13:19] <asie> new OC font v1 is
readyish
L734[13:13:31] <Kodos> Sangar, any chance
of rack mounted databases? :3
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L736[13:13:54] <Forecaster> the
microcontrollers are chunkloaded by the way
L738[13:14:24] <payonel> gamax92:
basically, move the cursor n letters from the start of the
input
L739[13:14:36] <payonel> where n is also
the screen position diff where clicked
L740[13:14:50] <payonel> but, n!=string
offset when string len != wlen :)
L741[13:15:05] <gamax92> hmm.
L743[13:18:22] <payonel> that's the move
function
L744[13:18:34] <payonel> but i'll fix the
onTouch method for this widechar issue
L745[13:19:03] <Sangar> i may have just
messed up your links' line numbers :P
L746[13:19:18] <gamax92> Sangar: I was
wondering :P
L747[13:19:25] <payonel> ha
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L749[13:24:00] <Vexatos> payonel, y u no
commit hash instead of branch :3
L750[13:24:24] <payonel> teach me
L751[13:24:44] <gamax92> payonel: you
forgot "senpai"
L752[13:24:46] <payonel> i do work on
local branch, push that to my fork, and PR the branch
L753[13:25:05] <payonel> senpai?
L754[13:25:09] <gamax92> mmhm
L755[13:25:17] <gamax92> <payonel>
teach me, git senpai
L756[13:25:27] <payonel> ha
L757[13:25:29] <payonel> :)
L758[13:27:17] <Sangar> click on history,
then on the rightmost button (the <>)
L759[13:27:23] <Vexatos> gamax92, alias to
"git $1 --help"
L760[13:27:25] <Sangar> (of the desired
commit)
L761[13:27:33] <gamax92> heh
L762[13:27:40] <Vexatos> "teach me
rebase, git senpai"
L763[13:27:45] <Vexatos> --> git rebase
--help
L764[13:27:46] <Vexatos> :3
L765[13:28:25] <Sangar> there needs to be
a command called gud so i can git gud
L766[13:28:50] <KittyKath> Sangar: git
alias it? <.<
L767[13:28:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, Nadeko
approves, I guarantee it
L768[13:29:19] <Nadeko> Vexatos: git gud
or i shank ur nan m9
L769[13:29:31] <payonel> Vexatos: i dont
know how else to make a PR
L770[13:30:18] <gamax92> I forgot BMP's
load bottom up
L771[13:31:10] <g> I remember someone
having some great git aliases
L772[13:31:11] <Vexatos> Nadeko, ikr
L773[13:31:13] <g> git oops
L774[13:31:15] <g> git nobodysawthat
L775[13:31:19] <Vexatos> Nadeko made an
awesome alias
L776[13:31:20] <Vexatos> called pls
L777[13:31:22] <Vexatos> Nadeko, show
them
L778[13:31:28] <Nadeko> pls
L779[13:31:36] <Vexatos> Basically, you do
something like
L780[13:31:44] <Vexatos> >>rm --rf
-no-preserve-root /*
L781[13:31:46] <Vexatos> >>pls
L782[13:31:53] <Vexatos> it will re-run
the previous command with sudo :P
L785[13:32:12] <g> I think fuck can do
that
L786[13:32:14] <Vexatos> I messed up the
hyphens there
L787[13:32:16] <gamax92> asie: :3 I can
properly complete my CC emulator now, this new font has certain
characters that I needed
L788[13:32:16] <Vexatos> but
whatever
L790[13:32:31] <asie> gamax92:
teletext?
L791[13:32:37] <Vexatos> g: >> shred
-fuz /dev/sda >> fucking shred -fuz /dev/sda
L793[13:33:11] <Vexatos> wow, this is
awesome
L794[13:33:12] <gamax92> asie: E0C0 to
E0FF
L795[13:33:18] <asie> yep
L796[13:33:21] <asie> teletext
alright
L798[13:34:13] <gamax92> oh, I guess I
want E080 to E0BF
L799[13:34:27] <g> "rm_root – adds
--no-preserve-root to rm -rf / command"
L801[13:34:36] <g> good thing that isn't
default..
L802[13:34:44] <gamax92> it's a little
hard to see the individual characters the way you formatted the
picture
L803[13:37:47] <gamax92> ahh, that's the
PUA
L804[13:38:59] <Michiyo> I aliased just to
sudo, fucking to apt-get so just fucking install
<package>
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L806[13:42:07] <garageagle> Hi!
L807[13:42:20] <garageagle> umm. hi?
L808[13:42:23] <KittyKath> Hai!
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L810[13:42:28] <Sangar> welp
L811[13:42:33] <KittyKath> Well fuck you
too
L812[13:42:58] <KittyKath> Instant
gratification generation *grumble* *grumble*
L813[13:44:02] <Sangar> you called my
name?
L814[13:44:29] <Kodos> You who
L815[13:44:43] <KittyKath> Uh no? I call
you lazy sock, did you already forgot that?
L816[13:45:10] <Kodos> And I just wanted
to ask about rackmountable databases :x
L817[13:45:16] <asie> so how's fiddling
with the new font, Sangar?
L818[13:46:51] <Sangar> asie, looking
good! fits even better in the robot ui than i expected :P do you
wanna make a pr (for credit and so i can make you do the license
info changes :P) or should i just override and push it?
L819[13:49:23] <asie> Sangar: just
override and push it
L820[13:49:26] <asie> as for the
license
L822[13:49:45] <asie> but generally,
public domain - so you can wrap them under the MIT
L823[13:49:50] <asie> so you no longer
really need a separate license file
L824[13:49:59] <Sangar> okeh
L825[13:50:53] <Sangar> ocfont1 is still
latest, yes?
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L828[13:57:25] <Sangar> allrighty, it's
up
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L830[13:57:39] <Forecaster> what was the
name of the eeprom writing program?
L831[13:57:39] <Sangar> let's see if
things break for some people :P
L832[13:57:44] <Sangar> flash
L833[13:58:22] <Forecaster> right
L834[13:58:51] <gamax92> Sangar: erm, you
still left it named unifont.hex?
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L836[13:59:52] <Sangar> yeah, i'm lazy
like that
L837[14:00:22] <Sangar> (also in *theory*
people might have replaced it in resource packs :P)
L838[14:00:40] <Sangar> but if i remember
and care sufficiently i might rename it
L839[14:01:04] <gamax92> too bad, it's A)
not unifont, and B) people can go fix their resource packs
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L841[14:01:13] <gamax92> it's just one
rename
L842[14:01:14] <Vexatos> Sangar, just call
it font.hex
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L845[14:05:54] <Sangar> Vexatos, too
obvious
L846[14:06:08] <Vexatos>
herobrine.hax
L847[14:06:16] <Sangar> getting
there
L848[14:06:28] <gamax92>
thepolice.fuck
L849[14:07:11] <gamax92> greaser|q would
approve
L850[14:07:18] <Sangar> font.json, for
giggles
L851[14:07:55] <gamax92> Sangar: put it
inside a folder where the folder name is three dots
L852[14:08:06] <gamax92> r.i.p windows
explorer
L853[14:09:28] <gamax92> then name the
file itself CON
L854[14:09:36] <Sangar> rip windows
L855[14:09:52] <Sangar> or was that only
when it was in c:\ directly
L856[14:09:55] <Sangar> i can't
remember
L857[14:09:56] <Sangar> oh well
L859[14:10:29] <KittyKath> If you're using
PuTTY.... HAHAHAHA you're screwed. Also, update :P
L860[14:10:35] <greaser|q> what's the
story
L861[14:10:46] <greaser|q> and if this is
unscii, fuck yes
L862[14:11:01] <gamax92> KittyKath: isn't
there KiTTY?
L863[14:11:03] <Sangar> it is :P
L864[14:11:08] <greaser|q> then fuck
yes
L865[14:11:19] <greaser|q> basically means
you can do 320x200 1bpp properly
L866[14:11:19] <KittyKath> gamax92: No,
but there is actual good software, i.e. Linux
L867[14:11:39] <gamax92> KittyKath: thats
nice.
L868[14:11:44] <Sangar> testing 189
now
L870[14:12:13] <Sangar> Izaya, i hope
whoever did that did it as a joke >_>
L871[14:12:16] <greaser|q> KittyKath: ffs
do people not know what bounds checking is
L872[14:12:41] <Izaya> Sangar: I don't
know but I hope so too
L873[14:12:57] <gamax92> KittyKath: if
you're on windows what do you use besides putty
L874[14:13:08] <gamax92> and don't give me
"I'm not on windows", that's just dodging
L875[14:13:10] <KittyKath> gamax92: Me? On
windows? AHAHAHHAHAHA
L876[14:13:13] <gamax92> oh look
L877[14:13:15] <gamax92> you dodged
L878[14:13:22] <KittyKath> No, seriously,
entry requirement for a job: I'm allowed to use Linux.
L879[14:13:31] <KittyKath> If I can't no
thanks fuck you.
L880[14:14:00] <KittyKath> I don't
Windows.
L881[14:14:12] <greaser|q> that's probably
a reasonable requirement, mine is "no full microsoft
stack"
L882[14:14:22] <greaser|q> which means
technically java on windows is still fine
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L884[14:15:08] <greaser|q> but C#.NET +
MSSQL is... ok, maybe not so forbidden soon but the sorts of places
that use that shit are the sorts of places that won't even bother
trying to run MSSQL on Linux
L885[14:15:12] <Sangar> allrighty, 17
build with new font is up, 189 is building
L886[14:15:28] <greaser|q> 17 as in MC 1.7
or as in OC 1.7?
L887[14:15:32] <Sangar> mc
L888[14:15:53] <Sangar> both oc 16
L889[14:16:07] <Sangar> yes hitting that
dot is too much effort right now :X
L890[14:16:08] <greaser|q> ah righty
L891[14:16:14] <greaser|q> are you on a
phone by any chance
L892[14:16:18] <Sangar> no
L893[14:16:20] <Sangar> just lazy
L894[14:16:31] <greaser|q> 1.8.9 1.7
L895[14:16:36] <greaser|q> not hard
L896[14:16:50] <KittyKath> greaser|q: You
don't get the level of Snagars lazyness, do you?
L897[14:17:13] <greaser|q> oh yeah that's
right i should probably do more on OCMIPS, not sure if i can be
fucked continuing with porting linux though
L898[14:17:18] <KittyKath> He's the kind
of person who whould optimize writing code away if he could.
L899[14:17:30] <greaser|q> i think there's
a reason OC is mostly written in scala
L900[14:17:46] <Sangar> ocmips \o/
L901[14:18:15] <Izaya> gamax92: MobaXTerm
is pretty solid and there are cracks for it in plenty of
places
L902[14:18:15] <greaser|q> i'm almost
tempted to add FPU -- sorry, I mean "FPA" --
support
L903[14:18:22] <greaser|q> but i suspect
i'll need to get the cache working
L904[14:18:25] <Sangar> there is, it's
that i wanted to learn scala. and then kinda fell in love with it
:P (in particular traits, traits are <3)
L905[14:19:07] <greaser|q> to make it
pretty much a 3071E i will need a working ins cache and a working
data cache
L906[14:19:29] <greaser|q> Sangar: i was
implying that writing code in scala means you can just bash shit
into map and whatnot
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L908[14:20:58] <Sangar> ah yes, map and
fold and filter and all that goodness
L909[14:21:08] <Sangar> i got too used to
that to even think of it :X
L910[14:21:42] <Sangar> java 8's streams
are an ok approximation... the collecting mechanism is just a bit
clunky
L911[14:21:58] <greaser|q> coding on the
JVM in a higher-level language
L912[14:22:11] <greaser|q> reminds me, at
some point i may want to pursue groovy
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L914[14:22:21] <greaser|q> then again
scala seems the more "employable" choice
L915[14:22:36] <Sangar> groovy is what
gradle uses right?
L916[14:22:42] <greaser|q> yeah
L917[14:22:49] <greaser|q> gradle was made
for groovy
L918[14:22:55] <greaser|q> because all the
other build systems for java are shit
L919[14:23:03] <ShrewdSpirit> Hello. Isn't
there any planings for the next version of oc?
L920[14:23:06] <greaser|q> so they had to
come up with one which is "less shit"
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L923[14:23:29] <greaser|q> it's probably
about as good as a build system can get for typical java enterprise
bullshit
L924[14:23:29] <Sangar> i might enjoy it
more in an ide :X messing with gradle files in a text editor always
ends in random trial and error for me :X
L925[14:23:49] <greaser|q> still better
than mutilating XML and invoking more trial and error
L926[14:23:56] <Sangar> ShrewdSpirit, soon
(tm)
L927[14:24:04] <Sangar> ahhh, ant
L928[14:24:10] <greaser|q> and maven
L929[14:24:14] <Sangar> right
L930[14:24:27] <greaser|q> speaking of
trial and error, that's another reason i don't really like C++...
or Perl for that matter
L931[14:24:34] <Sangar> i'm surprised
there was none in json, it being the great thing post xml
L932[14:24:47] <ShrewdSpirit> Sangar:
Good! I guess it might have bunch of cool new stuff to play with
:D
L933[14:24:49] <greaser|q> they have the
exact same problem: you often don't know whether you're supposed to
pass by value or by reference
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L935[14:25:12] <greaser|q> that's probably
because JSON is actually shit for configs :P
L936[14:25:15] <Sangar> ShrewdSpirit, a
few things, but mainly the new server racks :P
L937[14:25:34] <greaser|q> i've had plenty
of experience with either forgetting commas or having a trailing
comma that shouldn't be there
L938[14:25:36] <Sangar> HOCON!
L939[14:25:49] <greaser|q> HOCON is pretty
good from what i see
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L941[14:26:01] <greaser|q> it turns JSON
into a worthy competitor to .ini
L942[14:26:04] <Sangar> i mean it's not
pure json, so that's good
L943[14:26:10] <Sangar> i like it
L944[14:26:12] <Sangar> it's what oc
uses
L945[14:26:17] <ShrewdSpirit> Sangar:
Can't wait ^_^
L946[14:26:28] <greaser|q> they changed
the name of it to some shitty thing, i don't remember what it
was
L947[14:26:29] <Sangar> (for recipes,
too!)
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L949[14:37:33] <Michiyo> 3 hours...
bleh
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L957[14:42:26] <gamax92> oops.
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L959[14:55:03] <gamax92> There we go, got
rid of torch. Just needed a reboot.
L960[15:01:24] <KittyKath> Ah, the
advertisement industry gets ever more greedy. Now blocking
adblockers :D
L961[15:02:10] <Izaya> Blocking...
adblockers?
L962[15:02:13] <Izaya> wat
L963[15:02:23] <Stary2001> yep so we have
adblocker blocker lists
L964[15:02:27] <Stary2001> oh sorry
L966[15:02:36] <Stary2001> adblocker
blocker blocker*
L967[15:02:58] <KittyKath> Money quote of
the second article: "
L968[15:02:59] <KittyKath> Lift
restrictions or Limit access in response to consumer
choice"
L969[15:03:05] <Michiyo> Stary2001, I need
to get with you at some point about the nick you hold for me on
your bouncer..
L970[15:03:13] <Michiyo> I have no idea
what the ZNC info for it is.. :P
L971[15:03:18] <Stary2001> lmao
L972[15:03:19] <Izaya> I feel like this
will escalate quickly
L973[15:03:22] <Stary2001> Michiyo: i can
change it now if you would like
L974[15:03:28] <Stary2001> (tbh i dont
either)
L975[15:03:32] <Michiyo> Sure
L976[15:03:34] <Michiyo> Thanks
L977[15:03:39] <Stary2001> np ^^
L978[15:03:42] <Izaya> until we're talking
about ad blocker^whatever
L979[15:03:47] <Stary2001> ikr
L980[15:03:54] <Stary2001> Michiyo: pm me
a pass
L981[15:04:59] <Lizzy> Izaya, KittyKath,
unless the ad domains are on the same page, couldn't you configure
a firewall (either on the local machine or internet access device)
to just drop any packets destined to it?
L982[15:05:08] <Lizzy> s/it/to the ad
domain
L983[15:05:09] <MichiBot> <Lizzy>
Izaya, Kto the ad domaintyKath, unless the ad domains are on the
same page, couldn't you configure a firewall (either on the local
machine or internet access device) to just drop any packets
destined to it?
L984[15:05:14] <Lizzy> fAK
L985[15:05:24] <Stary2001> lmao
L986[15:05:38] <Stary2001> every
time
L987[15:06:02] <Izaya> Well I have a
caching proxy with a filter that blocks ads so
L988[15:06:04] <gamax92> Updated OCEmu to
use the new font
L989[15:06:54] <KittyKath> Lizzy: DEAL
mostly hits the average ad-block user. (Yes, they called it DEAL.
Compliments the stupidity of Light, Encrypted, Ad choice supported
Non-invasive (LEAN) ads, doesn't it?)
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L992[15:11:52] <scj643> anyone know how to
parse xml with python
L995[15:12:22] <scj643> Using it
L996[15:12:34] <scj643> can't figure out
how to get it to process it
L997[15:12:46] <g> xml isn't particularly
easy to parse
L998[15:12:47] <g> hold on
L1000[15:13:10] <scj643> Reason why I'm
doing this is because funimation now uses xml instead of json
L1001[15:13:20] <g> that's like.. a
regression
L1002[15:13:25] <g> try that lib
anyway
L1003[15:13:28] <Izaya> use regex
L1004[15:13:42] <g> ah, I found the
demonic worshipper
L1005[15:13:43] <KittyKath> Regex? write
a parser in assembly
L1006[15:14:17] <scj643> Python :D
L1007[15:14:20] <SF-MC> Regex will
probably work just as well for XML as it does with HTML :P
L1009[15:18:47] <CompanionCube> zalgo is
tony the pony
L1010[15:18:58] <Stary2001> he
comes
L1012[15:19:18] <MichiBot> g:
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L1013[15:19:31] <Stary2001> o ok
L1014[15:19:35] <scj643> Damn xml is a
pain
L1015[15:19:42] <g> it is a pain,
yeah
L1016[15:19:45] <scj643> I like
json
L1017[15:19:48] <scj643> Json is
easy
L1018[15:19:50] <g> yeah, json is
great
L1020[15:19:57] <scj643> xml2dict is a
pain
L1021[15:19:59] <g> there are advantages
to using xml
L1022[15:20:01] <g> but uh
L1023[15:20:05] <g> they're mostly not
really necessary
L1024[15:20:14] <scj643> Well funimation
changed to xml
L1025[15:20:20] <scj643> So I'm forced to
use it
L1026[15:20:32] <scj643> (making a way to
watch their videos outside their players)
L1027[15:20:33] <g> xmltodict is probably
the easiest method you'll find
L1028[15:20:41] *
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L1029[15:20:46] <g> you'll just have to
dump the dict somewhere so you know how to parse it
L1030[15:20:57] <g> Stary2001: enjoy
that
L1031[15:21:06] <Stary2001> lol
L1032[15:21:14] <g> actually enjoy that
channel
L1033[15:21:17] <g> it's full of stuff
like that
L1035[15:21:21] <Stary2001> ikr
L1036[15:21:22] <Stary2001> its
great
L1037[15:21:30] <g> my new favourite
thing
L1040[15:22:05] <g> firefox is not
happy
L1041[15:22:09] <scj643> It's big
L1042[15:22:16] <scj643> it's a list of
every show on funimation
L1043[15:22:20] *
g waits for it to unfreeze
L1044[15:22:25] <g> my music is still
playing
L1045[15:22:27] <g> there is still
hope
L1046[15:22:31] <g> there we go
L1047[15:22:46] <scj643> Yeah it also has
to be efficiant
L1048[15:22:58] <scj643> And there is a
lot that can be striped
L1049[15:23:08] <Michiyo> aww, does this
mean that page of your doesn't work anymore?
L1050[15:23:11] <Michiyo> yours*
L1051[15:23:31] <scj643> It still works
for ~66 more days
L1052[15:23:39] <scj643> that's when the
kill it
L1053[15:23:45] <SF-MC> the kill
it!
L1055[15:24:24] <Michiyo> ahh, you
changed ports :P
L1056[15:24:47] <g> scj643
L1058[15:24:50] <g> well I mean, it
works
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L1061[15:25:58] <g> it's not nice but it
works
L1062[15:26:20] <g> unless you want to
learn the semantics of xml parsing, which will take a while, that's
all you've got
L1064[15:26:50] <scj643> Might see if
someone else can figure out how to parse this
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L1066[15:30:19] <Inari>
cat.dumps(lizzy.gethome().getflowerbed())
L1067[15:30:36] <gamax92> can you turn a
hard cookie into a soft one?
L1069[15:30:46] *
Lizzy makes a mess in Inari's flowerbed
L1070[15:31:01] *
Inari rubs more cat paw scented hand cream into Lizzy's
hands
L1071[15:31:01] <Xurn> Miwlk?
L1072[15:31:13] <Xurn> Miwlk?
L1073[15:31:14] <KittyKath> Lizzy:
Fertilizing the roses? :P
L1074[15:31:14] <g> makes hard cookies
soft
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L1077[15:31:41] <Xurn> I WANT MIWLK
L1078[15:33:48] <Lizzy> KittyKath,
something like that
L1079[15:34:32] <gamax92> mmh
L1080[15:34:43] <gamax92> I soaked the
cookies in milk and then microwaved them
L1081[15:34:48] <gamax92> they are now
soft
L1082[15:35:13] <Stary2001> oh ok
L1083[15:35:26] <Sangar> i'm off, gnight
o/
L1084[15:35:29] <SF-MC> night
L1085[15:35:34] <KittyKath> night
o/
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L1101[16:07:41] <asie> also
L1102[16:07:47] <asie> we're considering
OCCon in Minecraft again
L1103[16:15:49] <CompanionCube>
OCCon?
L1104[16:18:49] <CompanionCube> what
would that be about
L1106[16:19:08] <MichiBot> Lizzy:
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L1108[16:21:51] <scj643> I can
L1109[16:27:09] <Izaya> "What about
my boss asking me, for some mission-critical batch code:
L1110[16:27:35] <Izaya> "How far
ahead do sh and csh read their script files so I can have them edit
themselves safely while they are running?"
L1111[16:27:42] <Temia> I am mildly
disappointed that I can only smite players in 1.8
L1112[16:27:57] <Izaya> The answer was 32
and 256 bytes as I recall, but the real answer was "Stop doing
that!""
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L1114[16:34:41] <CompanionCube> source
code that edits itself is weird..unless you're implementing an
evolutionary algorithm
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L1117[16:39:49] <Izaya> I may have to try
to set up my laptop with a bunch of PV Xen VMs
L1118[16:40:11] <Izaya> can't enable VT-x
but an OS-level hypervisor would be nice
L1119[16:40:11] <CompanionCube>
...why
L1120[16:40:26] <CompanionCube> oh
L1121[16:40:34] <CompanionCube> what
would you use the VMs for
L1122[16:40:45] <Izaya> well one for
stuff I'm meant to be doing
L1123[16:40:47] <Izaya> one for
games
L1124[16:40:55] <Izaya> one for
networkish-stuff
L1125[16:41:30] <Izaya> one for other
stuff
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L1129[16:56:12] <SoraFirestorm> hm
L1130[16:56:37] <SoraFirestorm> TIL
log(0) is impossible
L1131[16:57:39] <SoraFirestorm> isn't
math wonderful?
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L1133[16:58:00] <lperkins2> anybody done
a remote shell for OC?
L1134[16:58:05] <lperkins2> Ideally using
linked cards
L1135[16:58:11] <SoraFirestorm>
maybe
L1136[16:58:35] <Temia> You know, I've
been thinking about it
L1137[16:59:06] *
Lizzy falls asleep on vifino
L1138[16:59:26] <vifino> Aww :)
L1139[16:59:37] *
vifino picks up Lizzy, carries her to bed and goes to bed
himself
L1140[16:59:40] <Temia> But do components
with read-only filesystems containing their own utilities add
superfluously to the component count? At the very least it leads to
a few excess filesystems.
L1141[16:59:40] <lperkins2> I don't think
it would be too difficult, I just don't want to redo work someone
else has done
L1142[16:59:56] <Temia> What if crafting
a floppy disk with the component gave you the drivers instead?
.3.
L1143[17:00:05] <Temia>
(nondestructively, of course.)
L1144[17:00:33] <SoraFirestorm> Temia:
don't *think* they do...
L1145[17:00:48] <Temia> I'd have to test
for myself later, but I feel awful from my cold. x.x
L1146[17:00:48] <SoraFirestorm> Can't be
bothered to start MC though
L1147[17:00:54] <SoraFirestorm> meh
L1148[17:00:55] <SoraFirestorm> why
not
L1149[17:00:57] <SoraFirestorm>
hoooldon
L1150[17:01:19] <KittyKath> Temia: Aww,
all the people are ill now. Get well soon! :(
L1151[17:01:39] <Temia> Cold season,
can't really be helped. .w.
L1152[17:01:57] <SoraFirestorm> Minecraft
is starting Temia
L1153[17:03:34] <Izaya> SoraFirestorm:
maths is freaking terrible
L1154[17:03:52] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L1155[17:03:54] <Izaya> but
important
L1156[17:03:57] <KittyKath> No, Maths is
freaking awesome
L1157[17:03:59] <Izaya> which sorta sucks
but \o/
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L1160[17:06:24] <SF-MC> Temia: it does
indeed add another fs component
L1161[17:06:28] <Izaya> Does OpenTTD need
the UDP?
L1162[17:06:47] <SF-MC> and since I'm
here
L1163[17:07:11] <SF-MC> does anyone know
of a way to efficiently use RotaryCraft/ElectriCraft power with
OpenComputers?
L1164[17:07:30] <SF-MC>
s/efficiently/efficient way to/
L1165[17:07:32] <MichiBot> <SF-MC>
does anyone know of a way to efficient way to use
RotaryCraft/ElectriCraft power with OpenComputers?
L1166[17:07:43] <SF-MC> oh
L1167[17:07:50] <SF-MC> I did words good
the first time
L1168[17:07:51] <SF-MC> *sigh*
L1170[17:09:35] <SF-MC> anyways
L1171[17:09:48] <SF-MC> because trying to
convert back to RF is kinda a hassle
L1172[17:10:53] <lperkins2> um,
depends...
L1173[17:11:02] <SF-MC> depends on?
L1174[17:11:06] <lperkins2> er, no, you
don't have reactor craft, neveremind
L1175[17:11:13] <SF-MC> yeah I do
L1176[17:11:17] <SF-MC> what's up?
L1177[17:11:25] <lperkins2> steam turbine
+ kinetic generator
L1178[17:11:46] <OneM_Industries> Or a
proper turbine generator.
L1179[17:12:09] <lperkins2> yeah, that's
what it was called :)
L1180[17:12:14] <OneM_Industries> You can
do some silly powerful stuff with reactorcraft.
L1181[17:12:17] <SF-MC> But that's all
endgame type stuff, right?
L1182[17:12:20] <Temia> Kinetic
generators are cheaper.
L1183[17:12:27] <lperkins2> but its all
kinda high end, yeah
L1184[17:12:29] <OneM_Industries>
Cheaper, but I think capped.
L1185[17:12:38] <lperkins2> More like
mid-game
L1186[17:12:55] <lperkins2> end game is
the advanced turbine and a fusion reactor
L1187[17:12:56] <Temia> Yeah, but you
still get like 15KRF/t by the time you run up against its limits
without any gearboxes
L1188[17:12:58] <SF-MC> I'd like to have
computers as soon as I get into electricraft
L1189[17:13:12] <SF-MC> actually
L1190[17:13:16] <lperkins2> low end is a
simple generator
L1191[17:13:17] <SF-MC> another
question
L1192[17:13:38] <SF-MC> is there a way to
directly convert electricraft power to RF without needing shaft
power between?
L1193[17:14:01] <OneM_Industries>
Actually, I think OC can take RoC power direct...
L1194[17:14:04] <lperkins2> hm, not sure,
don't have electricraft
L1195[17:14:09] <OneM_Industries> SF-MC:
I don't think so.
L1196[17:14:11] <SF-MC> OneM_Industries:
don't think so
L1197[17:14:20] <SF-MC> at least not with
a power converter
L1198[17:14:23] <OneM_Industries> Check
the handbook.
L1199[17:14:44] <OneM_Industries> It has
some really good tips etc in there.
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L1201[17:16:03] <lperkins2> Okay, sounds
like not remote shell, how about a telnet client/server via linked
card?
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L1203[17:16:59] <SF-MC> hm
L1204[17:17:20] <SF-MC> using the
rotational dynamo is kinda painful due to being able to waste shaft
power
L1205[17:17:32] <OneM_Industries> Makes
sense.
L1206[17:17:41] <OneM_Industries>
Thermodynamics.
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L1208[17:17:57] <gamax92> dunno how long
this has been running or how long it'll - well then it just
finished, 393 seconds
L1209[17:18:10] <SF-MC> it's that beyond
a certain torque and speed, power is wasted
L1210[17:18:15] <SF-MC> so I have to
figure out how to cap it
L1211[17:18:20] <OneM_Industries> Also
makes sense.
L1212[17:18:24] <lperkins2> or not worry
about loss...
L1213[17:18:40] <OneM_Industries> Shaft
splitter + two of them.
L1214[17:18:42] <SF-MC> I suppose I could
compromise a little
L1215[17:18:49] <lperkins2> 50% loss,
just double your power plant size
L1216[17:18:51] <SF-MC> ah well
L1217[17:18:54] <SF-MC> that too
L1218[17:18:59] <OneM_Industries> They
are cheap enough.
L1219[17:19:02] <SF-MC> I was thinking
resistor
L1220[17:19:02] <lperkins2> you're in an
unlimited resource world, efficiency is not important
L1221[17:19:07] <SF-MC> set to
1100A
L1222[17:19:16] <SF-MC> but 1100 is a
little wasteful
L1223[17:19:18] <OneM_Industries> That
doesn't limit the power.
L1224[17:19:25] <SF-MC> well
L1225[17:19:26] <SF-MC> some of it
L1226[17:19:34] <OneM_Industries> It just
burns off the excess.
L1227[17:19:43] <SF-MC> really?
L1228[17:19:46] <SF-MC> :/
L1229[17:20:02] <OneM_Industries>
Resistors are basically really, really inefficient light bulbs,
same in real life.
L1230[17:20:20] <OneM_Industries> All
they do is eat the excess power, not limit it.
L1231[17:21:01] <SF-MC> bleh
L1232[17:21:05] <lperkins2> not
quite,
L1233[17:21:39] <SF-MC> so
L1234[17:21:41] <lperkins2> but you are
correct that they're not an efficient way to limit the
voltage
L1235[17:21:57] <OneM_Industries> ^
L1236[17:21:59] <SF-MC> an unupgraded
rotational dynamo can handle 1024Nm @ 8192 rad/s
L1237[17:22:20] <OneM_Industries> BRB,
food is here. :D
L1238[17:22:21] <SF-MC> I still think
this ought to be a good solution
L1239[17:22:41] <SF-MC> a graphine
battery does 1024A @ 16384V
L1240[17:22:57] <SF-MC> so feed power
into that
L1241[17:23:18] <SF-MC> feed into
induction motor
L1242[17:23:33] <SF-MC> into 2:1
shaft
L1243[17:23:42] <SF-MC> that should be
perfect, right?
L1244[17:24:46] <SF-MC> *once I upgrade
the dynamo to take 2048Nm
L1245[17:29:24] <SF-MC> meh
L1246[17:29:39] <SF-MC> Suppose the
answer is to just have 2 dynamos
L1247[17:30:06] <lperkins2> Ahah! The
memory leak I've been chasing is in the frame
alloc/dealloc...
L1248[17:30:34] <lperkins2> still no idea
what's causing it, but more de-inlinining functions makes it run
out of memory and crash faster
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L1250[17:35:19] <SF-MC> aw dammit
L1251[17:35:24] <SF-MC> I got the number
backwards
L1252[17:35:49] <lperkins2> Found
it!
L1253[17:36:00] <lperkins2>
probably...
L1254[17:37:04] <lperkins2> or
not...
L1255[17:37:30] <SF-MC> there we do
L1256[17:39:27] <lperkins2> does lua have
a metamethod that's called during GC?
L1257[17:39:32] <ping> _gc
L1258[17:39:34] <SF-MC> __gc?
L1259[17:39:34] <ping> lol
L1260[17:39:36] <ping> __gc
L1261[17:39:44] <SF-MC> not exposed to OC
by default though
L1262[17:39:49] <SF-MC> can be configured
to
L1263[17:40:10] <lperkins2> hm, might
have to make a dev build of OC to figure out what's going
wrong
L1264[17:40:41] <Achai> I'm pretty sure
it is exposed to OC
L1265[17:40:47] <Achai> Because buffers
use it
L1266[17:40:56] <SF-MC> I don't think
so
L1267[17:40:59] <lperkins2> let's
test...
L1268[17:41:01] <SF-MC> I was looking in
the config
L1269[17:41:14] <SF-MC> it's available,
but off by default
L1270[17:41:37] <Achai> Then maybe times
have changed
L1271[17:42:23] <Achai> Yeah, it was a
very recent change
L1273[17:42:34] <Kimiro>
s/git/porn/
L1275[17:42:46] <SF-MC> classy
L1276[17:42:58] <Kimiro> I never claimed
to be.
L1277[17:42:59] <Kimiro> :3
L1278[17:43:03] <Achai> Kimiro: Is that
really all you're here for?
L1279[17:43:08] <Achai> Some stupid
joke?
L1280[17:43:40] <lperkins2> it is
available
L1281[17:43:41] <Kimiro> In the long run,
my life will turn out to be a joke.
L1282[17:44:02] <lperkins2> at least in
my couple month old version anyway
L1283[17:44:40] <SF-MC> grrr
L1284[17:44:50] <Kimiro> So yes, Achai, I
am here for some stupid joke.
L1285[17:44:54] <SF-MC> idk why the
gearbox keeps exploading
L1286[17:45:01] *
KittyKath cuddles Kimiro
L1287[17:45:01] <lperkins2> looks like
__gc is a security issue
L1288[17:45:02] <SF-MC> I'm within
tolerances AFAIK
L1289[17:45:06] <KittyKath> He's cute
though
L1290[17:45:11] <lperkins2> but I'm not
gonna complain
L1291[17:45:26] <Achai> Also, the commit
Sangar made does not completely disable __gc
L1292[17:45:31] <Kimiro> Ack. KittyKath,
wat u doing?
L1293[17:45:39] <SF-MC> oooh
L1294[17:45:43] <SF-MC> it's
unupgraded
L1295[17:45:48] <KittyKath> Slicing your
back into pieces Kimiro
L1296[17:45:49] <SF-MC> that's part of
the problem
L1297[17:46:02] <Kimiro> KittyKath: Oh,
proceed then.
L1298[17:46:15] <Achai> You can add __gc
after you do setmetatable
L1299[17:46:21] <Achai> metatables can be
modified post setting
L1300[17:46:27] <SF-MC> oh
L1301[17:46:28] <SF-MC> right
L1302[17:46:39] <SF-MC> because the
gearbox can't handle the end torque
L1303[17:46:46] <Achai> I'll make an
issue for it
L1304[17:46:55] <Achai> How the hell am I
this fast at finding security bugs
L1305[17:47:25] <SF-MC> no, it can't
handle the *starting* torque
L1306[17:47:26] <SF-MC> ok
L1307[17:48:05] <lperkins2> okay, let's
see if Frames get dealloc'd
L1308[17:48:08] <SF-MC> angular
transducer still says I'm leaking though
L1309[17:49:04] <lperkins2> hm, error in
metamethod, no message -> crash
L1310[17:49:39] <Kimiro> Issues with
RotaryCraft?
L1311[17:49:41] <Kimiro> o:
L1312[17:49:49] <SF-MC> also
L1313[17:50:02] <SF-MC> why does nothing
want to take power from ElectriCraft's RF cable?
L1314[17:50:37] <Kimiro> SF-MC: Poor
implimentation of the API.
L1315[17:50:49] <SF-MC> on whose
side?
L1316[17:51:03] <lperkins2> looks like
printing from __gc is not supported?
L1317[17:51:20] <Kimiro> If I had to
guess, ElectricCraft.
L1318[17:51:31] <SF-MC> after two
different sinks wouldn't take power
L1319[17:51:34] <SF-MC> guess you're
right
L1320[17:51:51] <Achai> lperkins2: That
is because gc is done outside of the coroutine executing the OS's
code
L1321[17:52:34] <lperkins2> ah, hence why
it works sometimes
L1322[17:52:38] <SF-MC> dat 32krf/t
though
L1323[17:52:40] <SF-MC> pretty nice
L1324[17:53:22] <lperkins2> hm, well it's
enough to let me know that at least *some* frames are
discarded
L1325[17:55:13] <lperkins2> guess next
time it crashes I'll inspect the stack and see how many frames
there are...
L1326[17:55:23] <Kimiro> SF-MC: Honestly
I found ElectriCraft to be a bit too buggy to utilize properly,
though that was admittedly a number of versions back. You'd
probably be better off feeding directly into, say, a block of
EnderIO Capacitors.
L1327[17:55:28] <lperkins2> any way to
get a tree from the GC roots?
L1328[17:56:21] <lperkins2> heh, I
convert all my power directly to thermal dynamics fluxduct and a
massive TF capacitor bank
L1329[17:56:36] <SF-MC> well, for this
playthrough
L1330[17:56:40] <lperkins2> it's the
least performance impacting system I've found,
L1331[17:56:44] <SF-MC> I wanted to use
Reika's mods about as much as possible
L1332[17:56:54] <lperkins2> which is
kinda important on my server
L1333[17:56:55] <SF-MC> converting to RF
when I have to
L1334[17:57:08] <SF-MC> I do need it for
things like OC
L1335[17:57:54] <SF-MC> the only thing
confusing me atm
L1336[17:58:07] <SF-MC> my power source
is 1024A
L1337[17:58:33] <SF-MC> but my induction
motor is operating at 2048Nm
L1338[17:58:35] <SF-MC> waaaa?
L1339[17:58:41] <SF-MC> oh no
L1340[17:58:44] <SF-MC> that's
rad/s
L1341[17:58:47] <SF-MC> nvm
L1342[17:58:52] <SF-MC> still
L1344[18:03:19] <MichiBot> Vexatos:
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L1346[18:04:00] <SF-MC> hm
L1347[18:04:02] <SF-MC> apparently
L1348[18:04:14] <SF-MC> v = t * 2
L1349[18:04:19] <SF-MC> current = s /
2
L1350[18:04:39] <SF-MC> using the
induction motor to output to shaft power
L1351[18:06:05] <SF-MC> huh
L1352[18:06:07] <SF-MC> alright
then
L1353[18:06:09] <SF-MC> good to
know
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L1355[18:06:59] <lperkins2> hm, it's a
pity you can't emit lua bytecode from inside OClua
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L1357[18:11:29] <SF-MC> but I figured out
a solution to my RF problem
L1358[18:13:42] <Temia> Yeah, I've
posited a stripped, signed bytecode system but I haven't
implemented it
L1359[18:13:50] <Temia> Because I'm lazy
and lack an MC dev environment
L1360[18:14:31] <Turtle> Doesn't forge
literally provide a zipped dev env?
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L1362[18:15:20] <SoraFirestorm> so
there's that then
L1363[18:15:22] <Temia> Ew, zips.
L1364[18:15:26] <Temia> Either way,
lazy.
L1365[18:15:37] <SoraFirestorm> .tar.xz
ftw
L1366[18:15:43] *
Temia ^5
L1367[18:15:49] <Temia> Tarballs never go
out of style.
L1369[18:16:18] <SoraFirestorm>
lies
L1370[18:16:21] <Temia> That's... one
heck of a title contraction.
L1371[18:16:21] <SoraFirestorm> blatant
lies
L1372[18:16:31] <Xal>
tarball.tar.rar
L1373[18:16:34] <Xal> yes, I am
hitler
L1374[18:16:43] *
Temia shoots Xal. With a gun. :|
L1375[18:16:54] <SoraFirestorm>
tarball.tar.xz.tar.gz.tar.bz.zip.rar.7z ?
L1376[18:16:56] <KittyKath> Well, at
least we will soon learn if the GPL can hold up against Microsoft's
lawyers :D
L1377[18:17:01] <Xal> bonus points if the
.rar requires a password
L1378[18:17:06] <KittyKath>
SoraFirestorm: Misses .exe
L1379[18:17:16] <SoraFirestorm>
s/.7z/.7z.exe/
L1380[18:17:17] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> tarball.tar.xz.tar.gz.tar.bz.zip.rar.7z.exe
?
L1381[18:17:18] <Xal>
tarball.tar.msi
L1382[18:17:25] <g> MS working with Linux
is nothing new..
L1383[18:17:40] <g> They've always run a
crapton of servers on it
L1384[18:17:54] <gamax92> Yeah, why is
this suprising that Microsoft also works with Linux?
L1385[18:18:05] <Temia> Kath, according
to the article, the OS is being distributed on Github
L1386[18:18:26] <Temia> I'm no lawyer,
but they're not violating one of the core principles
L1387[18:18:41] <Temia> If they start
hassling people who fork it, there'll be trouble, sure, but
L1388[18:18:51] <Temia> So far they're
doing a better job than folks like VIA at honouring the GPL
L1389[18:19:20] <Temia> But yeah, either
way, MS has turned over a new leaf, it seems
L1390[18:19:22] <CompanionCube> someone
should go check the temperature in hell perhaps
L1391[18:19:22] <g> They've been doing a
lot of OSS work lately
L1392[18:19:27] <SoraFirestorm> no they
haven't
L1393[18:19:31] <SoraFirestorm> It's a
facade
L1394[18:19:35] <g> Ahahaha
L1395[18:19:37] <Turtle> \o/ reloading
unborked my coke oven
L1396[18:19:38] <g> right
L1397[18:19:44] <g> tin foil hats
ahoy
L1398[18:19:50] <Temia> Yes, yes, we were
all afraid of them pulling another 3E
L1399[18:19:53] <lperkins2> hm, even
signed bytecode wouldn't help with this, since it can't be signed
from inside OC...
L1400[18:20:01] <Temia> But they seem to
be making a genuine effort this time.
L1401[18:20:11] <KittyKath> Temia: I'm
not denying the fact that they *currently* are adhering to
everything. But Windows 10 was once free. I never believe what MS
says at face value. So soon we might just learn how good the GPL
is.
L1402[18:20:37] <lperkins2> If I could
internally emit bytecode, I could write a JIT to go with my
VM
L1403[18:20:47] <gamax92> KittyKath:
what, free as in money?
L1404[18:20:55] <g> It is free..
L1405[18:20:56] <KittyKath> gamax92:
Yep
L1406[18:21:12] <SoraFirestorm> It's free
with a valid 7+ license
L1407[18:21:14] <SoraFirestorm> has been
for a while
L1408[18:21:22] <SoraFirestorm> although
that deal is coming to a close soon IRC
L1409[18:21:27] <SoraFirestorm>
s/IRC/IIRC/
L1410[18:21:27] <gamax92> ahh
L1411[18:21:28] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> although that deal is coming to a close soon
IIRC
L1412[18:21:33] <g> Yeah, that was for a
year after release
L1413[18:21:42] <g> the insider preview
was free as well
L1414[18:21:45] <SoraFirestorm> so... 3
or 4 more months
L1415[18:21:49] <g> in fact, my license
came from that
L1416[18:22:40] <g> It's not like the
licenses will expire or anything
L1417[18:22:49] <g> you just won't be
able to get a new one for free
L1418[18:22:57] <SoraFirestorm> right
right
L1419[18:23:05] <Achai> Well, I totally
made an issue explaining the security flaw and how to fix it
L1420[18:23:23] <Achai> And the code that
I demonstrate with is only a PoC that doesn't do anything
L1423[18:24:27] <g> Whoops
L1424[18:24:41] <Achai> >actually
free
L1425[18:24:44] <Achai> I mean DUH
L1426[18:24:50] <Achai> Do you think that
everything is free?
L1427[18:25:11] <Achai> If they made it
truly free, the OS developers would go on strike and put the source
on GitHub
L1428[18:25:16] <g> I really didn't see
any problem with the lockscreen ads
L1429[18:25:27] <Achai> You don't see a
lockscreen that damn often
L1430[18:25:31] <Achai> Now if it was in
the start menu
L1431[18:25:34] <Achai> Thats a different
story
L1432[18:25:35] <g> They're very easy to
disable, which is more than I can say for any website and most
mobile apps
L1433[18:25:49] <Achai> You can disable
them easily?
L1434[18:25:53] <Achai> Even better
L1435[18:25:54] <KittyKath> g: I have a
problem with ads in general \o/
L1436[18:25:56] <SoraFirestorm> Because
Windows 10 isn't some stupid appstore game
L1437[18:26:10] <SoraFirestorm> Windows
10 is paid-for product, and still hammers you with ads
L1438[18:26:21] <g> That's.. not
hammering
L1439[18:26:29] <SoraFirestorm> maybe the
wrong word
L1440[18:26:31] <Achai> How is free to
disable ads hammering?
L1441[18:26:31] <SoraFirestorm> point
stands
L1442[18:26:31] <g> it's a lockscreen
wallpaper
L1443[18:26:50] <g> the wallpapers
themselves are honestly pretty good, too
L1444[18:26:54] <Achai> Yet nobody goes
after Amazon for their shitty lockscreen ads
L1445[18:27:00] <Achai> That you can't
disable
L1446[18:27:11] <g> oh right, I forgot
about that xD
L1447[18:27:20] <Achai> Look, for the
longest time they advertised 50 shades of grey on my little
sister's lockscreen
L1448[18:27:28] <Achai> Keyword: Little
Sister
L1449[18:27:28] <KittyKath> xD
L1450[18:27:55] <g> She wouldn't be able
to read it anyway, the ohrasibg is terrible :v
L1451[18:27:59] <g> phrasing *
L1452[18:28:02] <g> nice job
SwiftKey
L1453[18:28:06] <SoraFirestorm> lol
L1454[18:28:07] <Achai> I just opened the
page
L1455[18:28:12] <Achai> How is that
hammering
L1456[18:28:18] <Achai> That actually
looks pretty damn cool
L1457[18:28:26] <Achai> I would set that
as my lockscreen wallpaper
L1458[18:28:34] <g> Of all ad forms I've
seen, this is honestly one of the best
L1459[18:28:52] <g> Of course, I disabled
it, I prefer my ponies :u
L1460[18:28:57] <g> but it otherwise
doesn't bother me
L1461[18:29:13] <Achai> And the thing is
you can just simply say that you don't really like the image and
switch to a new one
L1462[18:29:18] <Achai> That isn't an
advertisement
L1463[18:29:30] <g> you only get them
when you're using spotlight also, so if you have your own wallpaper
set then it's completely irrelevant
L1464[18:29:30] <Achai> Thats like Bing's
homepage advertising r/outside
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L1466[18:30:10] <g> The only related
thing that I have an issue with in w10
L1467[18:30:25] <SoraFirestorm> Windows
10 spys on you a great deal
L1468[18:30:32] <g> Is that they have
some deal with King.com that means I have to have candy crush
installed
L1469[18:30:33] <Achai> SoraFirestorm: W7
does the same
L1470[18:30:35] <SoraFirestorm>
s/spys/spies/
L1471[18:30:36] <MichiBot>
<SoraFirestorm> Windows 10 spies on you a great deal
L1472[18:30:49] <Achai> Every version of
windows has done some reporting back to Microsoft
L1473[18:30:56] <Achai> W10 is just the
only one to tell you about it
L1474[18:31:01] <g> yeah, this is mostly
just alarmism
L1475[18:31:03] <SoraFirestorm> W10's is
very invasive about it
L1476[18:31:11] <g> and half of it has
been proven to be false anyway
L1477[18:31:19] <Xal> yeah LOTS was tech
media bs
L1478[18:31:23] <Xal> as it is every
time
L1479[18:31:25] <g> the other half is
relatively easy to disable if you bother with it
L1480[18:31:32] <Xal> not to imply I
condone any of it
L1481[18:31:36] <g> aside from perhaps
one or two things
L1482[18:31:38] <Achai> I could say that
W10 uploads your Google Chrome passwords to your Google account and
people would believe it
L1483[18:31:52] <Achai> They'd be like
"My passwords111!11!1!"
L1484[18:31:59] <Xal> i could say that
W10 literally murders babies and people would believe it
L1485[18:32:00] <SoraFirestorm> that
doesn't make any sense though
L1486[18:32:22] <g> Neither did the whole
anti-piracy spying thing
L1487[18:32:25] <g> but people lapped it
up
L1488[18:32:28] <Achai> SoraFirestorm: Do
you think half of the people who use W10 know how to use a
computer?
L1489[18:33:11] <SoraFirestorm> only in
the roughest meaning
L1490[18:33:15] <Xal> what's the
alternative to the millions of clueless people using w10?
L1491[18:33:25] <Xal> get them to use
linux?
L1492[18:33:32] <Achai> Ha lol
L1494[18:33:38] <Achai> Linux for the
clueless
L1495[18:33:43] <SoraFirestorm>
Macintrash is just as bad though
L1496[18:33:44] <KittyKath> Ubuntu?
L1497[18:33:48] <g> Dell does sell Ubuntu
machines
L1498[18:33:49] <Achai> g: Most would
complain about things not being in the right place
L1499[18:33:56] <Xal> Achai: it was a
joke
L1500[18:33:59] <Xal> but yea
L1501[18:34:12] <g> I know quite a few
non-puter people that use macs
L1502[18:34:17] <g> but I know what you
mean
L1503[18:34:20] <Xal> Torvalds has some
good ideas on why linux is still harder for the clueless to
use
L1504[18:34:27] <Xal> like the sorry
state of dynamic libraries
L1505[18:34:47] <Achai> Xal: Because when
one thing breaks and you google it you can end up fucking your
stuff up more in the long run :P
L1506[18:34:48] <Izaya> Mint
L1507[18:34:49] <SoraFirestorm> it would
be better if we worked together on packaging
L1508[18:34:51] <Achai> And XOrg
L1509[18:35:14] <SoraFirestorm> I'm not
looking forward to Wayland though
L1510[18:35:14] <g> One thing gentoo gets
incredibly well is package management
L1511[18:35:30] <g> emerge is
fantastic
L1512[18:35:35] <Achai> SoraFirestorm:
Yes
Way[too far away]land
L1513[18:35:47] <SoraFirestorm>
well
L1514[18:36:01] <SoraFirestorm> We've
made a mistake in not having a single graphics server
L1515[18:36:11] <SoraFirestorm> Now there
are going to be half a dozen compositors
L1516[18:36:15] <g> everyone uses xorg
though
L1517[18:36:21] <g> it's pretty crappy
unfortunately
L1518[18:36:31] <SoraFirestorm> and we
will reach a state where certain things will only run under certain
compositors
L1519[18:36:35] <Achai> We've made the
mistake on using a single graphics server for the last n
years
L1520[18:36:38] <SoraFirestorm> which is
horrendously stupid
L1521[18:36:59] <g> the gnome team will
probably be the first to do that
L1522[18:37:29] <Achai> It's like using
IE for a decade (IE without competition from Chrome and Firefox, so
IE6 but for Windows 10)
L1523[18:37:35] <g> they're increasingly
locking down how gnome and gtk works, almost to Apple levels
L1524[18:37:53] <SoraFirestorm> which
sucks because Gnome is the only decent interface for
touchscreens
L1525[18:37:54] <Achai> g: Next they'll
make everyone write stuff in Vala
L1526[18:38:03] <Temia> To be perfectly
fair, X11 is so antiquated that there are a dozen competing
libraries for providing the basic needs of the GUI
L1527[18:38:04] <Achai> And then they'll
make Vala look like Objective C
L1528[18:38:04] <g> Haha, that'll be
something
L1529[18:38:23] <Achai> Temia: I need
that xkcd on competing standards
L1530[18:38:28] <g> x11 is incredibly
brittle, too
L1531[18:38:34] <SoraFirestorm> Temia:
because X does not provide a toolkit
L1532[18:38:39] <SoraFirestorm> It's
pretty much all drawing primitires
L1533[18:38:42] <SoraFirestorm> This is
by design
L1534[18:38:51] <Temia> Hence
antiquated.
L1535[18:39:02] <SoraFirestorm> how is
that antiquated?
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L1537[18:39:16] <Mimiru> %xkcd 927
L1538[18:39:16] <Achai> Why tell the
server to draw rectangles when you could tell the server to draw
the thing the way it should look from the theme that is
applied
L1539[18:39:19] <Temia> It's working on a
design philosophy that hasn't been relevant for the past decade or
so.
L1541[18:39:27] <Achai> Mimiru: ~!
L1542[18:39:50] <g> I'm going to bed,
these connection drops are incredibly frustrating
L1544[18:39:57] <Mimiru> Yes?
L1545[18:39:59] <Mimiru> Night g
L1546[18:40:04] <Achai> g:
Goodnight
L1547[18:40:07] <Achai> Mimiru:
Thanks
L1548[18:40:08] <SoraFirestorm>
night
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L1550[18:40:22] <Mimiru> Oh lol, np
L1551[18:40:23] <Xal> Torvalds actually
says that valve might be the saving grace of linux: they package
the appropriate library versions with their games. it's big, and it
isn't pretty, but it 'just works'
L1552[18:40:51] <Temia> Debateable.
L1553[18:41:03] <Temia> I've been without
audio on Steam and half of its games for the past couple of
weeks.
L1554[18:41:49] <Achai> The problem is
that is shows the problem with binary compatibility... Libraries
should be written so that functions don't get depreciated until
it's two major versions old
L1555[18:42:02] <Achai> Not depeciated,
but removed
L1556[18:42:04] <Xal> I recently lost the
ability to play any steam game because of a broken nvidia driver
for pacman
L1557[18:42:17] <Xal> wasn't happy about
that
L1558[18:42:33] <Achai> I've had problems
with AMD's shared library not liking Steam's shared libs
L1559[18:46:38] <Achai> I think what
somebody should do is make a package manager that works on every
linux distro (except probably friggen Gentoo) that contains
dependencies for applications and blacklists for said dependencies,
except global
L1560[18:46:41] <lperkins2> if I made an
unrestricted build of OC, would I be able to do anything with
iterating references from the GC roots?
L1561[18:46:51] <Achai> lperkins2:
Yes
L1562[18:47:13] <lperkins2> I think I
probably need to do that... I can't figure out where references are
leaking
L1563[18:47:42] <Achai> It would reduce
the amount of libraries a self contained application would have to
ship with, and it could fix any distro problems that come up due to
some package being patched for some distro for some reason
L1564[18:48:25] <Achai> But hey,
something like that would need a whole bunch of people working on
that... and support too
L1565[18:50:39] <lperkins2> hm, gentoo's
build system would let you not be picky about the underlying OS
library versions, then you'd just need a way to set up
LD_LIBRARY_PATH in an application specific fashion, possibly use a
custom library loader entirely.
L1566[18:51:46] <lperkins2> this is sorta
what buildout and virtualenv do for python packages
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L1569[18:53:47] <SoraFirestorm> there we
go
L1570[18:53:50] <SoraFirestorm> now we're
back
L1571[18:53:56] <SoraFirestorm> not that
anyone missed me :P
L1572[18:55:22] <lperkins2> I don't
suppose there are prebuilt OC debug releases...
L1573[18:56:13] <SoraFirestorm> don't
think there are prebuilt debugs
L1574[18:57:29] <Mimiru> debug as
in..?
L1575[18:58:55] <lperkins2> as in I'd
like access to walking GC roots to figure out where all my memory
is going...
L1576[18:59:51] <Mimiru> Ahh, then
no
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L1583[19:30:59] <lperkins2> what's the
table that holds loaded packages?
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L1585[19:31:15] <gamax92> lperkins2:
package.loaded
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L1587[19:39:30] <lperkins2> thanks
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L1589[19:58:55] <lperkins2> okay, I'm
confused...
L1590[19:59:18] <lperkins2> If I run this
as a script, when it runs out of memory and crashes, if I restart
it, it crashes immediately.
L1591[19:59:59] <lperkins2> If I
require() it and invoke the main function, it runs out of memory
and crashes, I purge the library from package.loaded, re-require
it, and invoke main again, it runs for a while before running out
of memory
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L1593[20:00:34] <lperkins2> are global
variables not cleaned up properly when a script in OC exits?
L1594[20:01:11] <lperkins2> they're
obviously not truly global, since you can't access them after the
script exits
L1595[20:02:42] <gamax92> lperkins2: can
I see the script?
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L1597[20:03:02] <lperkins2> sure, it's
kinda ugly, once it works I'll split it into multiple files to make
it a little cleaner
L1599[20:03:51] <lperkins2> that's
probably slightly out of date, but it exhibits exactly the same
behaviour
L1600[20:04:21] <snowden89> howdy
L1601[20:05:54] <lperkins2> As near as I
can tell, something in the Frame allocation/deallocation is eating
memory
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L1605[21:02:34] <lperkins2> any
ideas?
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L1607[21:32:13] <Saphire> did you use
_G?
L1608[21:37:11] <Kodos> payonel, remind
me tomorrow to test that shit and watch the starmade videos I
wanted to watch. Too tired to mess with anything now, so I'm
heading straight to bed
L1609[21:37:54] <Mimiru> I'll %tell you
when you leave :P
L1610[21:38:43] <Kodos> kbai
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L1612[21:39:29] <Mimiru> %tell Kodos
<+Kodos> payonel, remind me tomorrow to test that shit and
watch the starmade videos I wanted to watch. Too tired to mess with
anything now, so I'm heading straight to bed
L1613[21:39:31] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Kodos
will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1614[21:46:24] <rashy> o/
L1615[21:56:23] <lperkins2> I make a
reference to _G, as an index table, but that's it.
L1616[21:57:00] <gamax92> lperkins2: do
you write into any global/require'd tables?
L1617[21:58:15] <lperkins2> nothing
open-ended...
L1618[22:02:13] <lperkins2> the builtins
module gets references to a couple of classes and a singleton, but
nothing big and nothing that should grow after the initial
startup
L1619[22:03:09] <lperkins2> it runs out
of memory even if I don't exit/restart the program, if I write code
that does lots of function calls to python functions it goes
through memory faster
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to make it throw an out of memory error early?
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