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L9[00:06:02] <gamax92> oh heh, the weather fall gets really messed up when you get to thousands in height
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L14[00:14:17] <Saphire> payonel: shell scripts?
L15[00:15:09] <payonel> shell scripts?
L16[00:15:13] <payonel> what about them?
L17[00:15:41] <gamax92> #lag
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L19[00:18:08] <payonel> Saphire: ?
L20[00:18:40] <AlmtyBob> I'm trying to read the contents of a storage drawer array. I remember there being a getDrawerCount() function a while ago but I can't seem to find it. Anyone know what component exposes that?
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L22[00:23:06] <Saphire> payonel: do they exist? .-.
L23[00:23:34] <payonel> can you define what you mean by shell script?
L24[00:23:56] <payonel> 1.6 has /bin/source now, which can run a file that is a list of shell commands
L25[00:24:07] <payonel> and on boot, /etc/profile is run, which also runs /home/.shrc
L26[00:24:32] <payonel> is that what you're asking for?
L27[00:25:27] <Saphire> Huh
L28[00:25:32] <Saphire> Yeah
L29[00:25:47] * Saphire meant bash-like scripts...
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L31[00:26:26] <Saphire> Dimitriye98: why there is "98" in your nick? .-.
L32[00:27:16] <payonel> Saphire: do you have an example of a bash-like script that you wanted?
L33[00:28:04] <Saphire> for a in *; do ...; done?
L34[00:28:11] <payonel> OH that
L35[00:28:15] <Saphire> Or was it do;? .-.
L36[00:28:31] <payonel> for a in cmd; do cmd; done
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L38[00:28:40] <Saphire> yup
L39[00:28:51] <payonel> no, we don't have for, nor if, nor whil....
L40[00:28:53] <Saphire> Additionally more things before done
L41[00:29:08] <payonel> but, we have ; and && and || support now
L42[00:29:15] <Saphire> isn't if just a [?
L43[00:29:25] <payonel> something like that
L44[00:29:30] <payonel> but no, none of that
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L47[00:30:20] <Saphire> ...I guess someone needs to port [
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L50[00:34:00] <payonel> i'll keep it in mind. i'm not against it, but bash is quite complex -
L51[00:34:26] <payonel> i would want to take tiny featurettes of it, and also make sure i'm not increasing ram cost for boot
L52[00:34:48] <payonel> now that delay loading is in place, it should be possible to add more to shell without boot cost
L53[00:35:14] <payonel> but that all takes time and there are things i'm more interested in doing for openos before more bash scripting
L54[00:35:23] <payonel> also, at some point, i'd prefer to not
L55[00:35:27] <payonel> i mean, we have lua
L56[00:35:39] <payonel> why not just make it lua script in the shell?
L57[00:35:53] <payonel> 1. /bin/lua, and 2. maybe /bin/luaeval
L58[00:35:53] <Saphire> .-.
L59[00:36:11] <payonel> i'm just saying, we have a super powreful interpreter already
L60[00:36:15] <payonel> why make another one
L61[00:36:59] <payonel> anyways, we could make up something new, and leverage lua
L62[00:37:03] <payonel> like...just brainstorming here
L63[00:38:07] <payonel> but maybe: prompt$ #lua for file in `ls` do print(file) end
L64[00:38:25] <payonel> something like that, i don't know
L65[00:38:33] <payonel> ok, i have to go afk for a while, laters
L66[00:40:56] <Saphire> Btw, can I chane prompt? >_>
L67[00:41:02] <Saphire> *change
L68[00:45:43] <gamax92> yawny
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L70[00:49:46] <DeanIsaKitty> http://www.computerworld.com/article/3040208/data-storage/samsung-ships-the-worlds-highest-capacity-ssd-with-15tb-of-storage.html?nsdr=true Well fuck
L71[00:50:05] <Saphire> >samsung
L72[00:50:05] <Saphire> Lol
L73[00:50:11] <Saphire> ololololplo
L74[00:51:12] <vifino> You okay there, Saphire?
L75[00:51:41] <Saphire> Just..
L76[00:51:46] <vifino> Cause you look kinda stupid when you find a brand name funny...
L77[00:52:00] <Saphire> samsung making storage devices..
L78[00:52:05] <Saphire> It's hilarious
L79[00:52:16] <vifino> ... How is that hilarious?
L80[00:52:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: What?
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L82[00:52:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: What kind of phone do you own?
L83[00:52:35] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Is it just me or is Saphire completely nuts?
L84[00:52:57] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: She's completely nuts. Samsung makes storage mainly and phones as an afterthought.
L85[00:53:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: The reason Samsung took off with phones is only because they are already established as SoaC and Storage chip manufacturers.
L86[00:53:56] <Saphire> oh
L87[00:54:32] * Saphire is an idiot on the topic of storage devices
L88[00:54:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: They make half of the iPhone's components, including storage.
L89[00:54:47] <DeanIsaKitty> We could tell.
L90[00:56:58] <Saphire> awkward >_>
L91[00:57:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Everyone makes mistakes :P
L92[00:57:43] <DeanIsaKitty> No hard feelings ;)
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L94[00:58:57] <Saphire> Their phones aren't really good, at least in term of support
L95[00:59:15] <Saphire> Mine is still on android 4.1
L96[01:00:02] <vifino> How old is the phone?
L97[01:00:56] <Saphire> Uh.. it's two year old, a budget-ish phone:/
L98[01:01:20] <vifino> How long do you expect Samsung to support a phone?
L99[01:01:54] <vifino> In terms of software upgrades, I mean.
L100[01:02:44] <Saphire> at least provide an update for a newer OS version?
L101[01:03:12] <vifino> Until when?
L102[01:03:28] <Saphire> sigh. I am idiot >_>
L103[01:03:32] <Saphire> *an
L104[01:04:07] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: *sigh* calm your tits, Samsung is a multi-billion company. Or they could just push out the kernel and have the community take it over.
L105[01:05:59] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: I'm calm, tho. I just mean the fact that they are a company that wants to make money and that they have a lot of phones. If they would support every phone ad infinitum, they'd loose quite a bit of profit.
L106[01:06:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah. Or they could just drop the highly-toxic super fast iteration cycle they're going with and create stable Hard&Software. But that's just my opinion.
L107[01:06:59] <vifino> But then they'd make less money.
L108[01:07:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Yep, they would. How's that bad again?
L109[01:07:26] <vifino> ...
L110[01:07:44] <vifino> For fucks sake, DeanIsaKitty. ¬_¬
L111[01:07:53] <DeanIsaKitty> No, please explain how a multi-billion company making less money is a objectively bad thing.
L112[01:07:58] <Saphire> Or at least publish the sources after they drop the phone. Sources for kernel modules and etc
L113[01:08:18] <vifino> Saphire: They do for many things.
L114[01:08:28] <vifino> See all the kernels for many devices.
L115[01:08:29] <Saphire> ...
L116[01:08:43] <DeanIsaKitty> They are not Tesla. Samsung develops tech for their own sake. And if they'd drop the phone part completely they still make a fuckton of money.
L117[01:08:48] <Saphire> not only kernel I mean
L118[01:09:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception.do
L119[01:09:33] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: I won't explain to you why not making more money is a bad and unwanted thing for companies.
L120[01:09:41] <Saphire> I can't see the sites because my phone is not 3g and it will take ages to load
L121[01:09:49] <ping> uhh
L122[01:10:01] <ping> they have divisions you know
L123[01:10:05] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Note the world objectively. You'll have a hard time even if you would.
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L125[01:10:15] <DeanIsaKitty> *word
L126[01:10:16] <ping> they dont just randomly put money into a division if they fuck up
L127[01:10:32] <ping> its basically its own company
L128[01:11:04] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: So you state that having a company gain value is a bad thing, objectively?
L129[01:11:21] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Money != value. Money == capital.
L130[01:11:40] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: They are still related.
L131[01:11:44] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: No.
L132[01:11:47] <vifino> Yes.
L133[01:11:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Not even in the slightest
L134[01:12:04] <vifino> Okay, even if so. How is it bad?
L135[01:12:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Tesla generates value by researching battery tech. They get no money off of it. Why? Because value != money.
L136[01:12:36] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Its not bad. Its just useless and could be allocated in value-generating ways.
L137[01:14:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Just because something is not-good does not mean its bad. But in this very case, there are simply better options where the money could flow into.
L138[01:14:16] <Saphire> But to make research you need money, no?
L139[01:14:27] <Alissa> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oD9VS7ch/ yay
L140[01:14:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: Yes?
L141[01:14:30] <Alissa> i can sleep now
L142[01:15:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Saphire: But you also need smart people, computers and other equipment. Those are not the value either.
L143[01:16:03] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Where is that "objectively" you talk bout? Consumer side, there are probably very many ways, but how is "there are simply better options where the money could flow into" a good argument for Samsungs side?
L144[01:16:26] <vifino> Or even a neutral thing.
L145[01:16:37] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Consumer site the high iteration count has very little advantages. Its purely to generate money.
L146[01:16:59] <vifino> It's neutral, obviously. But companies tend to have interest in increasing their size, no?
L147[01:18:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Yes, but that is not an advantage, is it?
L148[01:18:15] <ping> vifino, http://glslb.in/s/e108b367
L149[01:19:24] <vifino> ping: Put that in a standalone cross platform thing, sell it via steam for $5 labeled "Slender: The ultimate finale.".
L150[01:19:27] <vifino> Make $$$.
L151[01:19:51] <ping> vifino, i can literally do this in love2d in like sex minutes
L152[01:19:55] <Saphire> It's quite annoying to buy a phone and see that at least 2-4 new phones were released since this one
L153[01:20:14] <Saphire> >sex minutes
L154[01:20:18] <ping> yes
L155[01:20:23] <ping> sex minutes
L156[01:20:50] <Izaya> Saphire: motorola released a phone after the G3 16GB: the G3 8GB. Somehow I don't care :D
L157[01:21:24] <Saphire> :c
L158[01:21:28] <vifino> Saphire: Yes, because a profit oriented company surely cares that you find it annoying that progress, inovation and the cash flow didn't stop right as you bought it.
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L160[01:22:37] <vifino> ping: cs:no d0p3sk0p3 1v1
L161[01:24:11] <vifino> ping: wait, shit, you go to sleep now, right?
L162[01:24:12] <vifino> :v
L163[01:27:08] <vifino> Anyhow, thanks for that discussion, Saphire and DeanIsaKitty, rid me of my boredom.
L164[01:29:40] <ping> vifino, this is the time i "sleep" then go to sleep
L165[01:30:47] <vifino> ping: so, you staying up or going to bed?
L166[01:35:22] <Izaya> ah, Windows
L167[01:35:32] <Izaya> >command line program requires DotNet 4
L168[01:35:46] <Izaya> >invoke from command line
L169[01:35:55] <Izaya> >pops up dialog box saying it needs DotNet 4
L170[01:37:04] <vifino> Ahahahaha
L171[01:37:04] <vifino> Wonderful.
L172[01:41:08] <Izaya> I should note
L173[01:41:13] <Izaya> that I was using runas admin too
L174[01:41:24] <Izaya> so it shouldn't have been able to pop up on my screen
L175[01:41:34] <Izaya> due to the fact that in a sane design it wouldn't have perms
L176[01:41:40] <Izaya> keyword sane
L177[01:42:55] <vifino> Build Duration: 9 min 11 seconds
L178[01:43:04] <vifino> Getting slower and slower every day.
L179[01:43:44] <vifino> Well, okay, a few builds ago this took 48 min 33 seconds.
L180[01:44:07] <vifino> .... actually, it's been going down, looking at it
L181[01:44:17] <vifino> More LOC -> Less time compiling?
L182[01:44:21] <vifino> \o/
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L184[01:48:21] <vifino> For fucks sake, netflix. Don't point me to the "boo hoo you are using an unlocker or vpn!!!!" thing.
L185[01:49:09] <Saphire> Wat
L186[01:49:24] <OneMatthias> Um...
L187[01:49:34] <OneMatthias> Really?
L188[01:50:31] <vifino> Netflix has been doing this for a while.
L189[01:51:08] <vifino> Also, Bender at it's finest: "Want a corn dog?" "Sure." "Then your mom should've bought you one!"
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L193[02:07:55] <ping> vifino, ok i watched 2 episodes ima sleep
L194[02:08:01] <ping> (mlp)
L195[02:11:24] <vifino> ping: fuck you. We could have played cs:go.
L196[02:21:51] <ping> vifino, you want to rn?
L197[02:22:01] <ping> i dont have anything til saturday
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L199[02:25:18] <vifino> ping: yes
L200[02:25:20] <vifino> yes i do.
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L202[02:28:59] <ping> vifino, ok ill grab water while my computer boots
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L207[03:18:15] <ping> We don't have any milk in the house so I'm tempted to just paint water white so I can eat cereal :x
L208[03:20:34] <Izaya> paint water white?
L209[03:20:50] <Izaya> I can't think of a either healthy or not horrid method to do that
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L212[03:21:52] <vifino> Elizabeth!! \o/
L213[03:21:53] <Elizabeth> Dammit Janus
L214[03:23:35] <Kodos> I love you!
L215[03:26:22] <Elizabeth> Okay then Kodos
L216[03:26:33] * Elizabeth hugs vi
L217[03:26:34] <Kodos> It was a Rocky Horror refere.nce
L218[03:26:38] <Kodos> reference*
L219[03:26:39] * Elizabeth hugs vifino
L220[03:26:53] <Kodos> Look up the final lyrics to "Dammit Janet"
L221[03:26:54] * vifino hugs and kisses Elizabeth <3
L222[03:27:17] <Elizabeth> Also yay
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L224[03:27:47] <Elizabeth> Janus' v4 died again and so did Athar's v6 by the looks of it
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L226[03:30:15] <Izaya> have you tried rebooting
L227[03:31:33] <Elizabeth> Izaya, nope but I don't think that'll help
L228[03:33:41] <Elizabeth> Looks like I'm going to have fun with the virtual consoles of both Athar and Janus when I get to college
L229[03:34:42] <Elizabeth> I also need to update Athar's kernel
L230[03:36:05] <Ender> Athar
L231[03:36:05] <Ender> Linux Athar.theender.net 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 (2015-08-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux
L232[03:36:27] <Elizabeth> Thank you Ender
L233[03:38:41] <Elizabeth> Only problem with rebooting Athar? All the Vms and shit
L234[03:40:07] <Elizabeth> Though I /could/ pause them all then reboot then unpause them
L235[03:40:46] <Elizabeth> Izaya: did you try IPv6 on your VPS yet?
L236[03:40:58] <Izaya> no I
L237[03:41:01] <Izaya> ve been busy
L238[03:41:04] <Elizabeth> Okay
L239[03:41:07] <Izaya> want me to try now (or after you reboot?)
L240[03:41:46] <Elizabeth> I'm not rebooting Athar whilst I am on a mobile
L241[03:41:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Elizabeth: I assume my VM will go down too then?
L242[03:42:23] <Elizabeth> DeanIsaKitty, when I reboot Athar (the host) yes
L243[03:42:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Okay, sure fine by me.
L244[03:43:19] <Elizabeth> It's not going to be till the weekend at least
L245[03:43:45] <vifino> What the fuck. So when I start libvirt via systemd, nothing works.
L246[03:43:56] <vifino> If I start it up manually instead, everything's just fine.
L247[03:43:59] <vifino> ?!
L248[03:44:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Environment maybe?
L249[03:44:13] <vifino> It does the exact same thing I do.
L250[03:44:18] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Nope.
L251[03:44:20] <vifino> Same thing.
L252[03:47:04] <vifino> .... It isn't even the libvirt upgrade that killed it.
L253[03:47:08] <vifino> What the hell.
L254[03:47:28] <Izaya> vifino: make sure you have en_US.ISOwhatever locale enabled
L255[03:47:35] <vifino> Izaya: It's not the locale.
L256[03:47:39] <Izaya> libvirt on my desktop needed that
L257[03:49:11] <vifino> Oh, great. Chem alarm.
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L259[03:49:41] <vifino> If I'm dead, you know it was the reason behind the chem alarm.
L260[03:50:30] <vifino> Aww, it died down again.
L261[03:50:32] <ping> vifino, so like carbon monoxide detector?
L262[03:50:54] <ping> americans cant even use goddamn smoke detectors properly
L263[03:51:09] <vifino> ping: no, like fat chemistry faculty ringing military horn.
L264[03:51:40] <ping> oh like muricans bombing u?
L265[03:51:55] <vifino> something like that.
L266[03:52:14] <ping> vifino, its the beginning of the month
L267[03:52:19] <ping> u idiot its just a test
L268[03:52:48] <vifino> ping: they do it on the first, not the third
L269[03:53:05] <ping> ours goes off today also i think
L270[03:53:47] <vifino> anyways, I'm far enough away to record if people die and stream it on twitch, twich plays chemistry alarm
L271[03:54:51] <vifino> Also, ping, go the fuck to sleep or play cs:go with me.
L272[03:55:07] <ping> vifino, im going to sleep fine
L273[03:55:09] <vifino> fucking casual.
L274[03:55:15] <ping> says the unranked
L275[03:55:23] <vifino> FUCKING CASUAL
L276[03:55:32] <ping> you literally cant play anything other than casual
L277[03:55:35] <vifino> FORKING CASHEWNUT
L278[03:55:49] <ping> CASHEWNUT ALL OVER UR FACE
L279[03:56:10] <vifino> libvirtd[722]: ethtool ioctl error: No such device
L280[03:56:15] <vifino> dafuq r u doin
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L285[03:59:46] * Izaya just had a terribad idea
L286[04:00:11] <vifino> Izaya: Sounds no better than mine. What is it?
L287[04:00:21] <Izaya> some form of ring0 hypervisor on mobile phones
L288[04:00:38] <Izaya> so you could switch between copies of android and linux or whatever else
L289[04:00:39] <vifino> I'd use it if you pull it off.
L290[04:00:44] <Izaya> so would I
L291[04:00:53] <Izaya> issue is I won't pull it off for quite a while if I ever do
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L295[04:05:57] <vifino> Elizabeth!!! \o/
L296[04:06:04] * vifino flops on Elizabeth
L297[04:06:17] * Elizabeth sneezes
L298[04:06:51] * vifino gives Elizabeth a tissue
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L300[04:07:09] <ir7_o> whats up with the forums?
L301[04:07:19] <Ender> ir7_o: my server's having ipv4 issues
L302[04:07:24] <ir7_o> oh ok!
L303[04:07:28] <ir7_o> all good then.
L304[04:07:34] <ir7_o> its the real me btw.
L305[04:07:43] <Elizabeth> Omg it's ir7_o
L306[04:07:49] <ir7_o> .-.
L307[04:07:58] <ir7_o> mr. inactive
L308[04:08:03] <Ender> yup
L309[04:08:08] <Izaya> vifino: we can do better:
L310[04:08:18] <Izaya> have a chorded keyboard in/on the phone too
L311[04:08:21] <Izaya> with physical keys
L312[04:08:34] <Ender> now i get to go fuck about with virtual consoles whilst i try to get athar back on v6 internet to then ssh into janus
L313[04:08:36] <vifino> Congrazuloidsions.
L314[04:08:50] <Ender> cause if you have IPv6 internet, oc.cil.li will still work
L315[04:08:52] <Izaya> also: I have a design assignment to design a phone so
L316[04:09:11] <ir7_o> fucking aus. no isp supports ipv6 in adelaide
L317[04:09:16] <vifino> Izaya: Full sized usb port or bust.
L318[04:09:22] <Izaya> vifino: sold
L319[04:09:27] <vifino> :D
L320[04:09:48] <vifino> I remember seeing a mod of an N900 to have a full sized usb port.
L321[04:09:57] <vifino> I want one of those so badly.
L322[04:10:02] <Izaya> vifino: well I mean it'll already be fairly thick
L323[04:10:05] <ir7_o> good to check in, was just going to do my forums rounds.. well stupid aus.
L324[04:10:12] <Izaya> gotta fit the 8GB of RAM and 16 uSD card slots in somewhere
L325[04:10:16] <vifino> Izaya: N900 v2 pls
L326[04:10:17] <ir7_o> \o
L327[04:10:21] <Izaya> ir7_o: I know your pain
L328[04:10:24] <Izaya> also in australia
L329[04:10:26] <Izaya> though rural
L330[04:10:27] <ir7_o> ^ +1
L331[04:10:28] <Izaya> fuck ISPs here
L332[04:10:46] <ir7_o> +2
L333[04:10:53] <vifino> N900 with more oompth would be perfect.
L334[04:10:55] <ir7_o> bye
L335[04:10:59] <vifino> See ya, ir7_o.
L336[04:11:05] <Izaya> o/
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L339[04:11:46] <Ender> .-. damn wifi ithis isn't the time
L340[04:11:55] <Izaya> vifino: quad-core 64-bit ARM with virtualization, 8GB RAM, 16 uSD slots, chorded keyboard, 5" 720p display...
L341[04:12:14] <Izaya> we could probably do better than 720p
L342[04:12:18] <Izaya> how's 1440x900 sound?
L343[04:12:35] <Izaya> not great for video neccesarily but 16:10 > 16:9
L344[04:12:44] <vifino> 1440p sounds perfect.
L345[04:12:55] <vifino> well, the 16:10 version of it
L346[04:12:59] <vifino> dunno what res that would be :D
L347[04:13:10] <Izaya> that's 1440px vertical?
L348[04:13:31] <Izaya> 2304x1440 by my calculations
L349[04:13:53] <Izaya> it would run a custom hypervisor with two hardware buttons to switch VMs
L350[04:14:07] <Izaya> support linux and android
L351[04:14:09] <vifino> But since when can ARM do hardware virt?
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L353[04:14:11] <Izaya> (at the same time)
L354[04:14:25] <Izaya> vifino: it's been an extension for a while
L355[04:14:29] <vifino> Oh, cool.
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L357[04:14:44] <Izaya> dunno if there's many chips with it
L358[04:14:55] <Izaya> if not this is fictional so I'll just fabricate my own chips
L359[04:15:19] <vifino> Well, since you can...
L360[04:15:27] <vifino> How about one of those low powered skylake atoms?
L361[04:15:40] <vifino> Should be pretty good on battery and performance.
L362[04:15:56] <Izaya> skylake or avaton?
L363[04:16:00] <vifino> Plus you can run x86 stuff.
L364[04:16:05] <vifino> Hold on.
L365[04:16:10] <vifino> Lemme think.
L366[04:16:40] <vifino> I think skylake. Not sure tho.
L367[04:17:00] <Izaya> avoton is the haswell version of server-grade atoms
L368[04:17:13] <vifino> Does it have virtualization?
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L371[04:17:37] <Izaya> 64 bit, VT-x, ECC memory support
L372[04:17:45] <vifino> Fuck skylake. Avoton.
L373[04:17:57] <vifino> ecc *.*
L374[04:17:59] <Izaya> dunno if we really need ECC memory on a phone though
L375[04:18:01] <Izaya> oh hell
L376[04:18:04] <Izaya> we can do it anyway
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L378[04:18:08] <vifino> We totally do.
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L382[04:18:31] <Izaya> we could even do 8 cores
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L385[04:19:03] <Ender> uhoh
L386[04:19:05] <vifino> What do you say? Cut down to two sd card slots, bigger battery instead?
L387[04:19:28] <Izaya> well I mean we could halve it and still get a load of battery space
L388[04:19:31] <vifino> Otherwise it'll probably be a brick.
L389[04:19:43] <vifino> Izaya: But where will we fit the usb ports?
L390[04:19:48] <Izaya> but 4 minimum
L391[04:19:57] <Izaya> vifino: at the top
L392[04:20:02] <Izaya> next to the ethernet jack
L393[04:20:14] <vifino> You do really want a brick, eh?
L394[04:20:21] <Ender> fuck fuck fucking fuck
L395[04:20:28] <Izaya> ethernet isn't that thick
L396[04:20:42] <Izaya> it'll make a phone no wider than my current one in its case
L397[04:20:57] <Izaya> mind you we could probably go for IR instead
L398[04:21:01] <vifino> USB Type-C it must have, too.
L399[04:21:03] <Izaya> have a reciever that can plug into ethernet
L400[04:21:07] <vifino> Er, thunderbolt 3.
L401[04:21:19] <Izaya> thunderbolt is PCIe, right?
L402[04:21:21] <vifino> Yes.
L403[04:21:30] <Izaya> dunno if - wait it's x86
L404[04:21:35] <Izaya> it has PCIe
L405[04:21:37] <vifino> Thunderbolt 3 to 10gbit adapter :D
L406[04:21:39] <Izaya> probably doable too
L407[04:21:48] <Izaya> thunderbolt for external GPU
L408[04:22:18] <Izaya> Why? Wrong! Why not?
L409[04:22:34] <vifino> If you cut down the built in ethernet, it'll be thinner and contain more battery, plus the thunderbolt 3 logic may even fit inside.
L410[04:22:56] <vifino> I mean thunderbolt 3 got 40gbit.
L411[04:22:58] <Izaya> well I'm thinking we can have a sort of base station for some of the wired features I wanted to include
L412[04:23:09] <vifino> Yeah, that's what I am thinking too.
L413[04:23:11] <Izaya> like HDMI output
L414[04:23:21] <Izaya> I don't like HDMI but it has some small connectors
L415[04:24:04] <vifino> Izaya: One really cool thing thunderbolt 3 can do is it can connect to other tb3 devices and just make that thing a network interface for 20gbit+ speeds.
L416[04:24:27] <Izaya> so you could like
L417[04:24:53] <Izaya> transfer the entire capacity of the device in under 10 seconds
L418[04:24:58] <Izaya> htm
L419[04:25:00] <Izaya> actually I dunno
L420[04:25:06] <vifino> Thunderbolt 3 is literally the connector I always dreamed of.
L421[04:25:13] <Izaya> say each SD card slot is SDXC
L422[04:25:17] <Izaya> and there are 4 of them
L423[04:25:27] <Izaya> plus whatever other storage it has internally
L424[04:25:35] <Izaya> (thinking 16GB eMMC or something)
L425[04:25:47] <vifino> There are 128gb sd cards nowadays.
L426[04:25:50] <Izaya> yup
L427[04:26:01] <Izaya> so it could have 4 128GB SD cards
L428[04:26:04] <Izaya> for 512GB of storage
L429[04:26:04] <vifino> I was thinking maybe an M.2 nvme module.
L430[04:26:08] <Izaya> more than some 'modern' laptops
L431[04:26:17] <vifino> for internal memory, that is.
L432[04:27:03] <Ender> yay, now janus' ipv6 has died
L433[04:27:30] <Izaya> are there laptop-sized ones?
L434[04:27:48] <Izaya> I've seen a 256GB M.2 SSD but I don't think it was NVMe fancy
L435[04:28:01] <Izaya> like it'd probably be pretty good if we could get like two hot-swap ones of those
L436[04:28:19] <Ender> Izaya: M.2 is a standard plug size. only thing that'll be different is how long it is
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L438[04:28:26] <g> Ender: rip?
L439[04:28:29] <g> did you fix ipv4?
L440[04:28:38] <Ender> g, i did. then that died
L441[04:28:45] <g> Huh, I wonder what the problem is
L442[04:28:56] <Ender> now v6 has died so i have no way to get files off
L443[04:29:05] <Ender> g, probably Vultr routing issue
L444[04:29:12] <Ender> it currently can't even get a v4 address
L445[04:29:25] <g> hm
L446[04:29:29] <g> yeah, sounds like it
L447[04:29:56] <Izaya> vifino: this will be the most overspecced phone in history
L448[04:30:03] <Izaya> here's the fun thing though
L449[04:30:10] <Izaya> if we go for a 5" 16:10 screen
L450[04:30:19] <Izaya> I still need space for the thumb chords on the bottom
L451[04:30:27] <Izaya> so it'll be a bit longer
L452[04:30:51] <vifino> haha
L453[04:31:07] <Izaya> = more space for internals
L454[04:31:23] <g> Izaya: the LG AKA has 16GB of ram for starters..
L455[04:31:42] <Izaya> g: the avatons support up to 64
L456[04:32:01] <g> your 8 isn't exactly over-specced though
L457[04:32:02] <g> :P
L458[04:32:07] <g> and 16 doesn't even take up much space
L459[04:32:12] <Izaya> we can go higher
L460[04:32:18] <Izaya> this will be the most over-specced
L461[04:32:23] <Izaya> over-engineered phone
L462[04:32:25] <Izaya> in history
L463[04:32:30] <Izaya> and I'm sorta glad it'll never happen
L464[04:32:31] <vifino> g: Uhm. That is internal memory. Not RAM.
L465[04:32:44] <Izaya> oh if we're talking internal memory
L466[04:32:45] <vifino> It has 1.5gb of ram.
L467[04:32:47] <Izaya> we can do 512GB
L468[04:32:53] <vifino> Izaya: g is.
L469[04:33:37] <g> vifino: No, it's RAM
L470[04:33:44] <g> the internal memory on the AKA is like 1.5GB
L471[04:33:59] <g> unless this site is wrong, which could be the case
L472[04:34:19] <vifino> lol
L473[04:34:35] <vifino> I really really doubt that the AKA has 16gb ram but only 1.5gb internal storage.
L474[04:34:57] <g> Yeah, it sounds like.. an odd idea
L475[04:35:22] <g> I think the most overspecced phone I've seen is that recent lumia that has liquid cooling
L476[04:35:32] <Izaya> http://www.lg.com/sg/mobile-phones/lg-AKA
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L478[04:35:48] <Izaya> eheh
L479[04:35:52] <Izaya> if we go for an atom
L480[04:35:57] <Ender> wait
L481[04:35:58] <Izaya> we could run virtualized windows on it
L482[04:36:00] <g> haha, they did get it backwards
L483[04:36:02] <Ender> is janus comming back??
L484[04:36:07] <g> Ender: :o
L485[04:36:59] <Ender> or not...
L486[04:37:14] <g> D:
L487[04:37:28] <Ender> oh well, back to manually copying command output
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L490[04:40:16] <vifino> LIZZY!!! \o/
L491[04:40:26] <Ender> don't get your hpoes up
L492[04:40:31] <vifino> :<
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L494[04:42:12] <Izaya> hrm
L495[04:42:21] <Izaya> I wonder what sort of battery size it'll need
L496[04:44:21] <vifino> I'd sure wish Lizzy would check her phone every once in a while.
L497[04:44:24] <vifino> Oh well.
L498[04:45:22] <Izaya> "Unlike previous generations, Skylake-based Xeon E3 no longer works with a desktop chipset that supports the same socket, and requires C230 chipset to operate." argh
L499[04:45:42] <Izaya> welp, guess I won't be upgrading any time soon
L500[04:45:45] <Izaya> RISC V when
L501[04:47:09] <vifino> So, Ender, what's broken?
L502[04:47:23] <Ender> everything
L503[04:47:26] <Ender> well
L504[04:47:32] <Ender> network based stuff
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L506[04:48:00] <Ender> mostly
L507[04:48:16] <vifino> Okay. If you happen to walk across Lizzy, tell her I said hey and that she should check her phone more often, okay, Ender?
L508[04:48:23] <Ender> sure
L509[04:48:41] <vifino> Thanks.
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L512[04:52:23] <Ender> right, that's all the novelty hostnames written down
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L515[04:59:25] <Ender> #p Lizzy
L516[04:59:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.231951014 Seconds passed.
L517[04:59:30] <Ender> hmm
L518[04:59:52] <Izaya> 'be a tool'?
L519[05:00:24] <Ender> so connections that have been made stay, but trying to get a connection takes forever to the point where most things time out
L520[05:00:35] <Ender> Izaya: yep, all the novelty ipv6 addresses
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L523[05:05:37] <vifino> #p Lizzy
L524[05:05:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.512377276 Seconds passed.
L525[05:05:42] <vifino> Wow.
L526[05:05:53] <Ender> some of that may be irssi not responding fast
L527[05:06:03] <vifino> hmm. fair enough.
L528[05:06:05] <Ender> #p Techokami
L529[05:06:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Timeout.
L530[05:06:16] <Ender> k, znc doesn't even respond
L531[05:06:36] <Forecaster> #p Lizzy
L532[05:06:37] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.828204979 Seconds passed.
L533[05:06:47] <Forecaster> :P
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L538[05:13:22] <Ender> and done copying that shit out
L539[05:20:00] <Ender> #p
L540[05:20:01] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1.08255251 Seconds passed.
L541[05:20:18] <Ender> yay, wifi is now being flaky as well
L542[05:23:14] <Ender> Izaya: you still around?
L543[05:23:31] <Izaya> no
L544[05:23:34] <Izaya> why?
L545[05:25:50] <Ender> If you can, try seeing if you can get IPv6 working on the vps i host for you. if it works would you mind setting something up so that it tries pinging an IPV6 host (say, 2001:4680:4680::8888) every so often for like, 48 hours to see if it can still access it? Need to determin if it's just the way i have athar set up or if online has ipv6 issues
L546[05:27:29] <Ender> cause if it works out to be the former that's causing the issues then i can just look into fixing that and doing it right on the VPSs
L547[05:28:10] <g> Ender https://sealion.com/ might be helpful for you (or nodequery but I can't get that to load right now)
L548[05:28:16] <Ender> if not i'll have to raise a support ticket with online
L549[05:28:39] <Ender> thanks putty for not making that link clickable
L550[05:30:09] <Ender> g, that looks kinda cool
L551[05:30:21] <g> hard to beat the price of free for monitoring
L552[05:30:23] <g> :P
L553[05:31:24] <g> oh, https://nodequery.com/ loads now
L554[05:31:26] <g> I've used both
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L560[05:34:05] <Ender> oh look, more ipv6 connections making their way out
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L566[05:36:15] <Izaya> okay this is cool
L567[05:36:55] <Ender> Izaya: the sealion thing?
L568[05:38:33] <Izaya> using a chorded keyboard on my phone
L569[05:38:46] <Ender> ah
L570[05:40:55] <Izaya> it certainly needs work though
L571[05:44:02] <Izaya> Doesn't seem to have a slash either
L572[05:45:04] <Ender> hmm, i can't seem to show more than 3 monitors for a server on sealion...
L573[05:46:18] <Ender> g, anyway to make it show more? ^
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L575[05:47:27] <Ender> there comes anover v6 connection
L576[05:48:20] <Ender> that is the most retarded way i've spelt another
L577[05:48:44] <g> Cant' remember honestly
L578[05:48:46] <g> it's been a while
L579[05:53:04] <Ender> lets see what nodequery can do
L580[05:53:36] <g> Make sure you set your nodequery metrics alert limits
L581[05:53:40] <g> or you'll get a lot of emails
L582[05:54:04] <Ender> they're all at 80% at the moment
L583[05:54:05] <Ender> .load
L584[05:54:10] <Ender> oh yeah, the bot died
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L586[05:58:19] <Lizzy> holy shit
L587[05:58:28] <Lizzy> this is working again
L588[05:58:52] <Ender> oh wow
L589[05:59:27] <vifino> LIZZY!!! \o/ \o/ \o/
L590[06:00:08] <Lizzy> inb4 the vultr techs respond with "i can ping your server so it's working"
L591[06:00:29] * Lizzy pets vifino
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L595[06:04:18] <Izaya> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/Chording_Keyboard.png
L596[06:05:29] <Izaya> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w211KOQ5BMI unrelated
L597[06:16:06] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/trump2000.png related to unrelated
L598[06:20:01] <Lizzy> g, so far NodeQuery seems to be taking my preference
L599[06:20:09] <g> Alrighty
L600[06:20:48] <Lizzy> purely because it can show me more than 3 monitors for a server at a time
L601[06:21:43] <Lizzy> I've tweeted seelion to see if there is any way to get around that on the free plan
L602[06:23:49] <Lizzy> though the fact that that I can potentially delegate access to other people on the sea lion one keeps it in a "maybe" state
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L612[06:36:54] <Lizzy> yay, pegasus isn't allowing me to do the nodequery stuff
L613[06:37:05] <Lizzy> cause gnutls is broken some how
L614[06:37:55] <Lizzy> lets reboot it and tell it to force an fsck check
L615[06:38:17] <Lizzy> because it's power adapter has been a bit loose so wouldn't suprise me if the FS has errors
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L622[07:04:27] <scj643> The game hero siege is dirt cheap
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L625[07:15:07] <Vexatos> Ah now I remember
L626[07:15:10] <Vexatos> Noise
L627[07:15:14] <Vexatos> that was the problem
L628[07:15:24] <Vexatos> I still have no idea how in the fish to generate anything but white noise
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L635[08:08:29] <Magik6k> o/
L636[08:15:17] <Vexatos> o\
L637[08:15:37] <Vexatos> Hey Magik6k, do you know anything about the selene bug marcin212 talked about a month ago and then never again? >_>
L638[08:17:40] <Lizzy> did you know you can set up a default-trout for your IP network?
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L641[08:29:23] <Forecaster> Lizzy: my network needs more trouts, definetly
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L644[08:35:10] <vifino> I think Lizzy is the only person where I actually did fall for such a joke. .-.
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L647[08:42:25] <Mettaton_Fab> SUPß
L648[08:42:46] <Mettaton_Fab> i hate keyboard fails.
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L650[08:46:57] <Mettaton_Fab> hello.
L651[08:47:24] <Forecaster> hi
L652[08:47:27] <Lizzy> hah
L653[08:47:42] *** amadornes[OFF] is now known as amadornes
L654[08:48:09] <Lizzy> also :( the 99p store is closed for refurbishment so i went into the poundland store next to it and got a tube of pringles
L655[08:48:28] <vifino> aww
L656[08:48:31] <Forecaster> ohno
L657[08:48:35] <Lizzy> Texas BBQ Sauce Flavour
L658[08:48:35] <vifino> but woo for chips
L659[08:48:43] <vifino> Oh, that's my favourite!
L660[08:48:49] * vifino steals soem chips from Lizzy
L661[08:48:56] <vifino> some*
L662[08:48:59] * Lizzy allows those few
L663[08:49:05] <vifino> :3
L664[08:54:01] <Lizzy> huh, last thing EnderBot2 saw was vifino and gamax hiding after vifino making a comment about my hotness
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L669[08:54:47] <Lizzy> .load
L670[08:54:48] <Forecaster> how peculiar
L671[08:54:49] <Lizzy> .load
L672[08:54:50] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.14 0.16 0.18 , RAM: 14.1G/31.3G (~44.9%), SWAP: 485.9M/88.2G (~0.5%)
L673[08:56:09] <Mettaton_Fab> wot?
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L678[09:03:23] <Michiyo> fml left my phone at home :/
L679[09:04:12] <Lizzy> :/
L680[09:07:23] <Vexatos> Yo gamax92
L681[09:07:34] <Vexatos> am i doin this rite http://git.io/v2HTA
L682[09:08:24] <Vexatos> I just need to find an efficient way to store this crapload of bytes
L683[09:08:47] <Vexatos> Can't use a bytebuffer or byte array because I don't know its size in advance :/
L684[09:09:03] <gamax92> lucky for you I just woke up
L685[09:09:11] <Vexatos> Good morning.
L686[09:09:13] <gamax92> unlucky for you I just woke up
L687[09:09:22] * Vexatos gives some orange juice to gamax92
L688[09:09:29] <gamax92> :D
L689[09:10:30] <Vexatos> also line 255 totally contains a .poll
L690[09:10:32] <Vexatos> not a peek.
L691[09:10:35] <Vexatos> YOU SAW NOTHING
L692[09:10:40] <Vexatos> 355*
L693[09:12:17] <Michiyo> Got an email from OVH about my server expiring...
L694[09:12:32] <Michiyo> almost had a heart attack til I noticed 4/02
L695[09:14:28] <Mettaton_Fab> do we have robots to mine iron for us?
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L697[09:15:06] <Lizzy> that reminds me, I need to swap all of DarkNet's servers over to theender.net addresses
L698[09:15:19] <Lizzy> that's gonna be fun
L699[09:15:59] <Lizzy> also i really need to change Janus' go-to connection point to be Athar
L700[09:17:30] <Lizzy> oh, it already does prefer athar
L701[09:18:44] <Vexatos> gamax92, this implementation should
L702[09:18:44] <Vexatos> like
L703[09:18:46] <Vexatos> totally work now
L704[09:18:47] <Vexatos> .-.
L705[09:18:50] <Vexatos> 100%
L706[09:18:51] <Vexatos> all done
L707[09:19:16] <Vexatos> all the client-side shite done :P
L708[09:19:21] <Lizzy> heh
L709[09:19:22] <Lizzy> [15:18] janus.thedarkirc.co: LINK: Received end of netburst from athar.thedarkirc.co (burst time: 9 msecs)
L710[09:19:25] <Lizzy> [15:18] athar.thedarkirc.co: LINK: Received end of netburst from janus.thedarkirc.co (burst time: 1 msecs)
L711[09:19:28] <Lizzy> best burst time
L712[09:19:34] <Vexatos> 1ms?
L713[09:19:36] <Vexatos> .-.
L714[09:20:37] <Lizzy> granted it didn't take that long for janus to burst to athar because it only has 4 users on it
L715[09:21:01] * Mettaton_Fab kils someone with glamour
L716[09:21:37] <gamax92> om nom nom yogurt
L717[09:22:16] * Mettaton_Fab is confoozd
L718[09:22:28] * Lizzy prods scj643
L719[09:22:43] <scj643> yes
L720[09:23:39] <Lizzy> of the following, wich are you still using?: amz-scj.theender.net, scj.theender.net, scj643.theender.net
L721[09:23:55] <gamax92> answer correctly and you could win ... a new car!
L722[09:24:18] <Lizzy> fuck off onenote
L723[09:24:49] <gamax92> Vexatos: .jar?
L724[09:25:02] <Vexatos> gamax92, please
L725[09:25:08] <Vexatos> I haven't even started the server side yet :P
L726[09:25:09] <gamax92> oh sorry
L727[09:25:11] <Lizzy> I have a Jar of Dirt: dirt.jar
L728[09:25:12] <gamax92> Vexatos: .jar please?
L729[09:25:16] <Vexatos> <Vexatos> I haven't even started the server side yet :P
L730[09:25:23] <Vexatos> I don't even have the item yet
L731[09:25:47] <Vexatos> You can manually call play() on the client thread with a custom instruction queue for testing :P
L732[09:26:02] <scj643> im still using scj643.theender.net and if i find a need for the vps ill be using scj.theender.net
L733[09:26:41] <Lizzy> okay
L734[09:26:52] <Lizzy> so i can remove the amz one?
L735[09:27:04] <Lizzy> (just cleaning up my dns stuff
L736[09:27:35] <Lizzy> %lookup janus.theender.net
L737[09:27:35] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for janus.theender.net 107.191.47.156 2001:19f0:6800:8161::1
L738[09:27:49] <Mettaton_Fab> this saturday my skiing course will start!
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L740[09:28:57] <Lizzy> %lookup thisIsntAHostname.theender.net
L741[09:28:59] <vifino> Mettaton_Fab: I'd suggest learning both skiing and snowboarding, it's worth it.
L742[09:29:01] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for thisisntahostname.theender.net 107.191.47.156
L743[09:29:19] <Lizzy> scj643, <@Lizzy> so i can remove the amz one?
L744[09:29:33] <Mettaton_Fab> we only learn skiing there.
L745[09:29:42] <scj643> yes
L746[09:29:46] * Forecaster doesn't see the appeal of skiing
L747[09:29:48] <Lizzy> COOOL
L748[09:29:50] <Lizzy> *cool
L749[09:29:55] <Mettaton_Fab> last year nearly every room had a puking person
L750[09:30:03] <Lizzy> not sure where capslock came from and also got trigger happy
L751[09:31:16] <Turtle> ugh people are going to yell at me for doing the IInterface thing in java .-.
L752[09:31:36] <Mettaton_Fab> IInterface?
L753[09:31:53] <medsouz> InterfaceInterface?
L754[09:31:53] <Turtle> Interface names starting with an I
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L756[09:32:39] <Turtle> pretty much, i.e. interface IModule, which is redundant as it says InterfaceModule in the name, but I need it to be seperate from the actual Module object until I collapse a bunch of them into a proxy
L757[09:32:53] <Turtle> So people are going to yell at me for (temporarily(tm)) using IInterface :p
L758[09:33:09] <Lizzy> %lookup lain.thedarkirc.co
L759[09:33:11] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for lain.thedarkirc.co 210.1.213.55
L760[09:33:35] <Lizzy> %lookup lalli.thedarkirc.co
L761[09:33:38] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for lalli.thedarkirc.co 37.23.159.48
L762[09:33:43] <Lizzy> oh wow
L763[09:33:46] <Lizzy> that worked
L764[09:34:32] <Lizzy> %lookup irc.theender.net
L765[09:34:32] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for irc.theender.net 107.191.47.156
L766[09:34:37] <Lizzy> .-.
L767[09:34:45] <Lizzy> %lookup irc.theender.net
L768[09:34:45] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for irc.theender.net 107.191.47.156
L769[09:34:47] <Lizzy> meh
L770[09:34:52] <Lizzy> needs to propengate
L771[09:35:59] <Lizzy> %lookup irc.theender.net
L772[09:36:00] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for irc.theender.net 37.23.159.48 62.4.22.248 210.1.213.55 107.191.47.156
L773[09:36:03] <Lizzy> awesome
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L775[09:38:29] <Mettaton_Fab> wow.
L776[09:38:40] <Lizzy> ?
L777[09:38:50] <gamax92> woah
L778[09:39:03] <Forecaster> gasp, letters!
L779[09:39:14] <Lizzy> gasp, Forecaster!
L780[09:39:25] <Forecaster> ohno! hide!
L781[09:39:27] * Forecaster hides
L782[09:39:35] * Lizzy hides with Forecaster
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L784[09:40:50] <gamax92> :| chrome looks awful now
L785[09:41:23] <Forecaster> well crap. apparently I've deleted the footage for ep126...
L786[09:41:32] <Forecaster> >:
L787[09:41:38] <gamax92> it now shows the icon of every extension and just greys out things that didn't apply to your site
L788[09:42:10] <Forecaster> you can move the icons into the dropdown menu
L789[09:42:46] <gamax92> cool, hiding a problem instead of fixing it
L790[09:42:48] <Lizzy> ffs
L791[09:43:49] <Forecaster> uh, if you don't want an icon remove the addon?
L792[09:44:06] <Lizzy> wait, what the actual fuck
L793[09:44:10] <Forecaster> ?
L794[09:44:11] <Lizzy> Stary2001, your ircd is drunk
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L796[09:44:45] <gamax92> Forecaster: why would I have the addon if I didn't want the addon
L797[09:44:56] <Forecaster> I said icon
L798[09:45:01] <gamax92> "addon"
L799[09:45:09] <jd_> how to use power advantage integration ?
L800[09:45:12] <gamax92> you said "remove the addon"
L801[09:45:26] <Vexatos> <Forecaster> well crap. apparently I've deleted the footage for ep126...
L802[09:45:31] <Vexatos> 10/10 professional youtuber
L803[09:45:35] <Forecaster> shush
L804[09:45:45] <Vexatos> quick! download it before you upload it :D
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L806[09:45:53] <jd_> how to use power advantage integration ?
L807[09:46:02] <Forecaster> jd_: what is that?
L808[09:46:11] <jd_> with OpenComputers
L809[09:46:29] <jd_> power advantage is a power mon for 1.8
L810[09:46:35] <jd_> mod^
L811[09:46:40] <Forecaster> never heard of it
L812[09:46:59] <jd_> it was in th OC update notes
L813[09:47:06] <jd_> the^
L814[09:47:17] <Forecaster> presumably you use an adapter block from OC
L815[09:47:29] <Mettaton_Fab> such new.
L816[09:47:35] <Forecaster> to have the other mods stuff appear as components
L817[09:47:41] <jd_> i cant find the power convertor block in oc
L818[09:47:55] <Forecaster> oh, you mean to power oc?
L819[09:48:15] <jd_> http://ocdoc.cil.li/block:power_converter
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L821[09:48:20] <jd_> this^
L822[09:48:28] <Forecaster> yes, it should be there
L823[09:48:34] <jd_> it is not in the game
L824[09:48:42] <Forecaster> have you tried crafting it?
L825[09:48:49] <jd_> nope.
L826[09:48:54] <jd_> i'll try now
L827[09:49:51] <Forecaster> though generally you don't need it
L828[09:50:06] <Forecaster> computer cases work as power converters
L829[09:50:14] <Lizzy> %lookup athar.thedarkirc.co
L830[09:50:15] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for athar.thedarkirc.co 62.4.22.248
L831[09:50:24] <Forecaster> as well as some other blocks
L832[09:50:42] <jd_> i got it but i is not working
L833[09:50:49] <jd_> it is^
L834[09:51:06] <Forecaster> are the cables or whatever not connecting?
L835[09:51:07] <jd_> cant charge a capacitor
L836[09:51:40] <jd_> no cables also not conecting
L837[09:51:50] <Forecaster> to a computer?
L838[09:52:03] <Forecaster> you probably wont be able to attach them to a capacitor
L839[09:52:06] <jd_> to the power convertor
L840[09:52:19] <Forecaster> oh, you crafted one?
L841[09:52:27] <jd_> i used PW's cables
L842[09:52:36] <jd_> i got one from /give
L843[09:52:45] <Forecaster> ah
L844[09:53:00] <Forecaster> well, if the cables aren't connecting then there isn't support for the mod
L845[09:53:36] <jd_> well then. ok
L846[09:53:39] <Forecaster> if there is supposed to be support then it's broken
L847[09:53:41] <jd_> thax
L848[09:53:44] <Forecaster> and you should report it
L849[09:53:50] <jd_> where
L850[09:54:01] <Lizzy> %tell Michiyo osiris isn't behaving, i tell it to uplink to athar & eos yet it jumps onto janus...
L851[09:54:02] <MichiBot> Lizzy: Michiyo will be notified of this message when next seen.
L852[09:54:11] <Lizzy> right, home time
L853[09:54:16] <Forecaster> uh
L854[09:54:22] <Forecaster> github issue tracker
L855[09:54:30] <jd_> ok thanx.
L856[09:54:36] <jd_> bye.
L857[09:54:48] <Forecaster> wait
L858[09:54:54] <Forecaster> what version are you using?
L859[09:57:28] <Forecaster> jd_?
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L861[09:58:37] <Forecaster> oh.
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L863[09:59:41] <Forecaster> oh yeah
L864[10:00:04] <Forecaster> Vexatos: I didn't want to update to the beta of oc because it broke openOS installations
L865[10:00:18] <Vexatos> Forecaster, don't you still have the OpenOS floppy?
L866[10:00:24] <Vexatos> just insert it again, remove HDD
L867[10:00:27] <Vexatos> boot
L868[10:00:29] <Vexatos> insert HDD
L869[10:00:31] <Vexatos> run install
L870[10:00:31] <Vexatos> done
L871[10:00:46] <Vexatos> should overwrite all erroring things on the HDD
L872[10:00:51] <Forecaster> but effooort
L873[10:00:53] <Vexatos> as the floppy magically updates~
L874[10:01:04] <Vexatos> that's how you update OpenOS though
L875[10:01:34] <Mettaton_Fab> wait, floppies automatically update?
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L877[10:02:23] <Forecaster> Vexatos: fiiine > . >
L878[10:03:07] <Vexatos> Mettaton_Fab, only automagically
L879[10:03:11] <Vexatos> but that should suffice for your needs
L880[10:04:05] <Forecaster> might as well do it on camera after updating I suppose
L881[10:05:22] <Magik6k> Vexatos, relating to this selene issue, no I don't
L882[10:06:21] <Vexatos> Magik6k, really a pity
L883[10:06:37] <Vexatos> because I couldn't reproduce it and I never got a response when I asked him which string he used
L884[10:08:32] <Mettaton_Fab> i hate my keyboard.
L885[10:08:52] <Forecaster> why?
L886[10:10:01] <Forecaster> well crabs
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L888[10:10:11] <Forecaster> Vexatos: I can't tell which build was the last
L889[10:10:41] <Forecaster> based on modify dates it was "signalboxeration"?
L890[10:10:42] <Vexatos> you can't?
L891[10:10:51] <Vexatos> uuh I can make a build for you right now :P
L892[10:11:05] <Forecaster> well you didn't number them :I
L893[10:11:08] <Vexatos> containing the awesome™ forestry integration update
L894[10:11:17] <Vexatos> always go by date :P
L895[10:11:20] <Forecaster> that does what?
L896[10:11:26] <Vexatos> uuuh
L897[10:11:30] <Forecaster> but sure, do that
L898[10:11:31] <Vexatos> it makes bees go alive
L899[10:11:42] <Forecaster> bees were undead previously?
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L901[10:14:00] <Vexatos> there, done :D
L902[10:14:02] <Mettaton_Fab> maybe?
L903[10:14:07] <Forecaster> dates can lie >:
L904[10:14:13] <Forecaster> I prever numbered names
L905[10:14:17] <Forecaster> prefer*
L906[10:14:22] <Vexatos> asie: 990 kilobytes!
L907[10:14:28] <Vexatos> aww he's gone
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L909[10:15:32] <Forecaster> so, link?
L910[10:15:37] <Vexatos> Ever since I joined, Computronics quadrupled in size
L911[10:15:39] <Vexatos> U:
L912[10:15:43] <Vexatos> Forecaster, http://files.vex.tty.sh/Computronics/dev/
L913[10:16:11] *** Daiyousei is now known as Lucca
L914[10:19:10] <Forecaster> and you're forcing me to put words in the "to version" box in my mod database >:
L915[10:20:40] <alekso56> Vexatos's naming scheme for president.
L916[10:21:20] <Vexatos> Forecaster, dev builds always have a name referring to the latest thing added
L917[10:21:28] <Forecaster> >:
L918[10:21:33] <Vexatos> so just call it "1.6.1-dev"
L919[10:21:36] <Vexatos> or something like that
L920[10:21:41] <Forecaster> they could also have a number >:
L921[10:21:54] <Forecaster> that's still words
L922[10:22:45] * vifino yawns and takes a small half hour nap on Lizzy
L923[10:22:53] <alekso56> normal versioning is something like "MCVER-Major.minor-buildnum"
L924[10:23:04] * Mettaton_Fab hugs Lizzy
L925[10:23:18] <Lizzy> ...
L926[10:23:31] <Vexatos> Computronics is MCVER-willneverchange-randomlychangingnum1-randomlychangingnum2
L927[10:23:37] * Lizzy moves vifino off her lap
L928[10:23:57] * Mettaton_Fab stops hugging Lizzy
L929[10:23:57] <Vexatos> dev builds always have a name separate from versioning
L930[10:23:59] <Vexatos> because, well
L931[10:24:04] * Lizzy spartan kicks Mettaton_Fab to the other side of the room
L932[10:24:07] <Vexatos> you should not list them anywhere :P
L933[10:24:19] * Mettaton_Fab hugs Vexatos
L934[10:24:26] * vifino sleepily crawls back on Lizzy's nap and resumes napping
L935[10:24:28] <Forecaster> I have to...
L936[10:24:28] * Lizzy sits back down and moves vifino back onto her lap
L937[10:24:29] <vifino> lap*
L938[10:24:30] <Forecaster> > _ >
L939[10:24:37] * Mettaton_Fab hugs vifino
L940[10:24:42] * vifino stabs Mettaton_Fab
L941[10:24:57] * vifino dozes off on Lizzy
L942[10:25:18] * Mettaton_Fab megalovanias vifino
L943[10:26:32] * Mettaton_Fab tries to understand lua
L944[10:29:41] * Mettaton_Fab haz interwebs
L945[10:30:19] * Mettaton_Fab logs off now... or not.
L946[10:31:34] * Forecaster hopes nothing explodes
L947[10:32:29] * Vexatos has been hugged successfully.
L948[10:32:43] <Forecaster> oh, forgot to update asielib
L949[10:32:52] <Vexatos> <_>
L950[10:33:35] <Forecaster> s/update/add
L951[10:33:35] <MichiBot> <Forecaster> oh, forgot to add asielib
L952[10:33:36] * alekso56 watches Forecaster explode.
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L954[10:36:32] <Achai> vifino: You have your 3ds on you?
L955[10:36:38] <Achai> I need you to test something
L956[10:36:44] <Vexatos> 3ds?
L957[10:36:46] <Vexatos> :O
L958[10:36:51] <Vexatos> wanna play :U
L959[10:36:57] <Achai> We aren't playing anything.
L960[10:37:03] <Vexatos> awwwwwwwww
L961[10:37:10] <Achai> I need vifino to test https://github.com/ds84182/3ds-gpu-stuff/tree/master/geoshader_vertex_reuse
L962[10:37:18] <Achai> And if that works then I'll make another one
L963[10:38:01] <Vexatos> what are you doing to the poor 3DS
L964[10:38:15] <Achai> Vexatos: Testing geometry shaders
L965[10:38:18] <Achai> Also >poor
L966[10:38:26] <Achai> Implying 50 layers of security as poor
L967[10:38:44] <Vexatos> Usually, this is referred to as console cruelty
L968[10:38:49] <Vexatos> and you should be sued
L969[10:38:58] <Achai> I'm trying to implement Geometry Shaders in Citra, but I have no 3DS on me
L970[10:39:04] <Forecaster> oh, forgot to update railcraft
L971[10:39:08] <Achai> Or a working 3DS, at that
L972[10:39:08] <Vexatos> >_>
L973[10:39:19] <Vexatos> Forecaster, at least Computronics tells you what you need to update
L974[10:39:26] <Vexatos> I am good at that :
L975[10:39:28] <Vexatos> :P
L976[10:39:46] <Forecaster> well, forge is telling me that there are missing dependencies :P
L977[10:39:51] <Vexatos> yes
L978[10:39:56] <Forecaster> because you've set them properly, which is nice
L979[10:40:02] <Vexatos> Because Computronics always has updated version deps
L980[10:41:51] <Vexatos> :D
L981[10:42:07] * Achai shakes vifino violently
L982[10:42:16] <Forecaster> kinda wish it was able to list all the missing deps though
L983[10:42:23] <Forecaster> instead of having to encounter them one at a time
L984[10:42:49] <payonel> Saphire: here?
L985[10:43:02] <Saphire> For a little
L986[10:43:06] <Saphire> Sup?
L987[10:43:30] <payonel> /etc/profile PS1 is your prompt
L988[10:44:31] <payonel> you can also set a new prompt in /home/.shrc
L989[10:44:41] <Achai> vifino: yourded2mi
L990[10:44:43] <payonel> which is the more user friendly way of making changes like that
L991[10:45:12] <Lizzy> I'm suprised that my work's HR department is still functional
L992[10:45:14] <payonel> 'user friendly' in this context is about multi-user systems
L993[10:45:20] <payonel> Lizzy: why?
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L995[10:46:42] <Vexatos> Forecaster, it should
L996[10:46:45] <Vexatos> but required deps
L997[10:46:49] <Vexatos> and non-hard deps
L998[10:46:51] <Vexatos> those are separate
L999[10:46:55] <Vexatos> i.e. asielib vs railcraft :P
L1000[10:47:01] <Lizzy> At some point my next of kin details didn't get put into their database, realising this they sent me a letter. They said to put the details in by the 29th of Feburary this year, the letter was dated/sent on the 1st of March (two days ago)...
L1001[10:47:02] <Forecaster> yeah
L1002[10:47:16] <payonel> Lizzy: derp :)
L1003[10:47:24] <Lizzy> also fuck, my desktop's windows is showing as non genuine
L1004[10:47:33] <Vexatos> Forecaster, you sure you have latest dev of OC 1.6=
L1005[10:47:35] <Vexatos> ?
L1006[10:47:42] <Vexatos> You certainly want payonel's OpenOS :P
L1007[10:47:42] <Forecaster> yes
L1008[10:47:46] <Vexatos> not the weird in-dev one
L1009[10:48:10] <Vexatos> payonel, just running "install" from floppy to overwrite existing files on HDD should work, right?
L1010[10:48:18] <payonel> yes
L1011[10:48:20] <Vexatos> don't think you removed any file
L1012[10:48:22] <Vexatos> you just added
L1013[10:48:25] <Vexatos> since 1.5
L1014[10:48:31] <payonel> correct
L1015[10:48:36] <Forecaster> good
L1016[10:48:46] <payonel> note latest latest has a small bug with ctrl+key in term.read
L1017[10:48:51] <payonel> it'll be PR'd+fixed today
L1018[10:48:53] <payonel> just....giy
L1019[10:48:55] <payonel> fyi*
L1020[10:49:08] <payonel> small bug as in, totally crashes :/
L1021[10:49:14] * payonel hides
L1022[10:49:20] <Forecaster> I don't use that right now so that's fine
L1023[10:49:35] <Vexatos> payonel, the feature is in for a day though
L1024[10:49:39] <Vexatos> noone even knows about it
L1025[10:49:43] <Vexatos> except for me >_>
L1026[10:49:47] <Vexatos> I bet not even Sangar does
L1027[10:49:49] <Vexatos> :>
L1028[10:50:08] <payonel> i blame soni ...
L1029[10:50:30] <Lizzy> yep
L1030[10:51:23] <Vexatos> Soni has actually had an idea rate of about 40% lately :P
L1031[10:51:49] <payonel> 40% of what it used to be?
L1032[10:51:49] <Vexatos> made me do some crucial fixes and improvements to note blocks for instance
L1033[10:52:00] <Vexatos> 40% of ideas are good ideas :P
L1034[10:52:01] <payonel> or a 40% increase
L1035[10:52:05] <payonel> ah
L1036[10:52:23] <Lizzy> soni's ideas are okay at times, but the way he goes about suggesting them is stupid
L1037[10:52:48] <Forecaster> 40 percent of percentages are made up
L1038[10:53:06] <payonel> yeah, soni suggested ctrl+movement for term.read(). i liked it, added it, and broke ^c/^d because i don't have a qa team... :)
L1039[10:53:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Last time I checked Soni was female :P
L1040[10:53:20] <Lizzy> *she
L1041[10:53:23] <Vexatos> DeanIsaKitty, last time I checked you were a g
L1042[10:53:25] <Vexatos> cat.
L1043[10:53:29] <Vexatos> >_>
L1044[10:53:34] <g> Huh?
L1045[10:53:41] <payonel> DeanIsaKitty: i didn't know we could check
L1046[10:53:43] <Vexatos> g: You are just a typo
L1047[10:53:43] <payonel> :)
L1048[10:53:45] * g sits on Vexatos
L1049[10:53:45] <Vexatos> don't mind yourself.
L1050[10:53:46] <g> No u
L1051[10:53:52] <Vexatos> :^)
L1052[10:53:57] <g> She is a g, though
L1053[10:53:58] <g> :P
L1054[10:53:59] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: You can of course. :P
L1055[10:54:31] <Forecaster> uuuh
L1056[10:54:36] <Forecaster> what
L1057[10:54:49] <Forecaster> why does the server say there are 4 missing blocks...
L1058[10:54:58] <Vexatos> Forecaster, which ones
L1059[10:54:59] <g> they EXPLODED
L1060[10:55:00] <Vexatos> server racks?
L1061[10:55:04] <Vexatos> :P
L1062[10:55:09] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: Just be warned that you should generally ask for permission first xP
L1063[10:55:15] <Forecaster> BlockFuel, BlockOil, BlockOil & BlockFuel
L1064[10:55:18] <payonel> DeanIsaKitty: haha
L1065[10:55:19] <Forecaster> in that order...
L1066[10:55:34] <payonel> DeanIsaKitty: haha...sorry, still laughing :)
L1067[10:55:35] <Vexatos> uuh
L1068[10:55:42] <Forecaster> what the heck
L1069[10:55:45] <Vexatos> Forecaster, forge should have made a backup anyway?
L1070[10:55:47] <Vexatos> :P
L1071[10:55:55] <Forecaster> yeah, I made several as well
L1072[10:55:58] <Forecaster> but still...
L1073[10:56:08] <Forecaster> if my reservoirs are empty...
L1074[10:56:09] <Vexatos> what did you update
L1075[10:56:12] <Forecaster> I'm going to be annoyed
L1076[10:56:22] <Forecaster> railcraft and OC
L1077[10:56:28] <Vexatos> huh
L1078[10:56:33] <Vexatos> none of these add oil
L1079[10:56:43] <Forecaster> and added computr and asielib
L1080[10:56:59] <Vexatos> oh yea, Computronics removes all oil from the game
L1081[10:57:04] <Vexatos> Did I not tell you? ;)
L1082[10:57:05] <Forecaster> ...
L1083[10:57:47] <Forecaster> I hope you're not serious
L1084[10:57:55] <Forecaster> > _ >
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L1087[11:01:10] <Forecaster> yeah... all of my in-world oil and fuel is gone...
L1088[11:01:24] <Vexatos> wat
L1089[11:01:26] <Vexatos> uuh
L1090[11:01:28] <Vexatos> uhm
L1091[11:01:31] <Vexatos> okay...?
L1092[11:01:38] <Vexatos> check BC config, maybe?
L1093[11:01:40] <Forecaster> but not the stuff in tanks
L1094[11:01:46] <Vexatos> is it PC fuel
L1095[11:01:47] <Vexatos> or BC fuel
L1096[11:01:53] <Vexatos> or BC oil or PC oil
L1097[11:02:07] <Forecaster> the log said they were from buildcraft
L1098[11:02:36] <Forecaster> the tank fuel is from PC, because it's named "Gasoline" instead of "Fuel"
L1099[11:02:46] <Forecaster> presumably the oil is PC oil as well
L1100[11:02:56] <Forecaster> but the in-world stuff was the BC equivalents
L1101[11:03:04] <Forecaster> Vexatos: check the config for what?
L1102[11:03:37] <Vexatos> BC config
L1103[11:03:46] <Vexatos> there's configs for disabling individual fluids
L1104[11:03:52] <Vexatos> maybe they turned off themselves? :P
L1105[11:04:02] <Forecaster> uuh
L1106[11:04:07] <Forecaster> somehow I doubt it
L1107[11:04:11] <Alissa> What a turn-off :D
L1108[11:04:23] <Vexatos> maybe poke CJ if he did anything to fluids
L1109[11:04:35] <Vexatos> because I guarantee Computronics doesn't :P
L1110[11:04:49] <Forecaster> railcraft shouldn't affect BC blocks...
L1111[11:04:57] <alekso56> in the mc eula, what is a "post"
L1112[11:05:12] <Forecaster> a wooden stick in the ground?
L1113[11:05:29] <Alissa> Isn't CJ also a BC dev though
L1114[11:05:34] <Alissa> Forecaster:
L1115[11:05:37] <Lizzy> he used to be
L1116[11:05:38] <Forecaster> not really
L1117[11:05:41] <Lizzy> IIRC
L1118[11:05:45] <Forecaster> he hasn't worked on BC in years
L1119[11:06:04] <Forecaster> not since spacetoad appeared last time
L1120[11:06:23] <Forecaster> Vexatos: ...
L1121[11:06:32] <Forecaster> why is there a main.cfg
L1122[11:06:36] <Forecaster> and a main.conf
L1123[11:06:41] <Forecaster> ...?!
L1124[11:06:52] <Vexatos> maybe config format changed?
L1125[11:06:54] <Vexatos> No idea
L1126[11:07:01] <Vexatos> How would I know?
L1127[11:07:18] <Forecaster> somebody has to D:<
L1128[11:07:23] <Vexatos> The BC integration in 'tronics is limited to gate actions and triggers
L1129[11:07:30] <Vexatos> for computer cases and tape drives
L1130[11:09:10] <Forecaster> ...I'm glad I made a backup of the entire server instance...
L1131[11:09:15] * Forecaster checks it to compare the files
L1132[11:09:45] <Forecaster> the backup has the double mains as well
L1133[11:11:17] <Forecaster> maybe the addition of asielib and computronics caused the load order to change, so now the PC blocks are loaded first...
L1134[11:12:51] <Vexatos> maybe
L1135[11:13:01] <Vexatos> but that shouldn't disable BC oil
L1136[11:13:07] <Vexatos> unless PC messes with that
L1137[11:15:01] <Forecaster> I don't see them in the configs at all
L1138[11:15:20] <Vexatos> do the PC configs have anything about oil
L1139[11:15:57] <Forecaster> just the chance to generate an oil lake
L1140[11:16:25] <Vexatos> uuh
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L1142[11:19:51] <payonel> bleh, my state tax return is under "manual review"
L1143[11:20:02] <payonel> yay....
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L1146[11:21:50] <Forecaster> there is an objects.cfg, but it doesn't have fluids in it
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L1148[11:23:19] <Forecaster> if I place a bucket of bc fuel and pick it back up I get an artifice bucket
L1149[11:26:24] <Forecaster> gonna regen the configs on the server
L1150[11:26:28] <Forecaster> see what they look like then
L1151[11:32:29] <Forecaster> Vexatos: re-genned configs don't have fluids either...
L1152[11:37:55] <Vexatos> uhm
L1153[11:37:57] <Vexatos> wasntme™
L1154[11:38:43] <Forecaster> I'm going to add the new stuff one-by-one to find out what is actually causing this > - >
L1155[11:38:52] <Vexatos> k
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L1159[11:58:12] <Forecaster> wasn't railcraft
L1160[12:02:06] <Inari> Lizzy: you into tentacles?
L1161[12:02:25] <Lizzy> wut?
L1162[12:02:33] <payonel> wat
L1163[12:02:35] <Inari> its a common theme in hentai stuff D:
L1164[12:02:51] <payonel> http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Wat-Meme-Tumblr-04.jpg
L1165[12:03:17] <Inari> you know what tentacle are...
L1166[12:03:41] <Lizzy> Inari, i know what tentacles are. the sudden question confused me
L1167[12:10:36] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gU6TWGynkU soon we'll have IRL tentacles!
L1168[12:10:50] <Forecaster> I thought we already did
L1169[12:11:06] <Inari> Forecaster: not nice ones
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L1171[12:13:07] <Forecaster> one step closer to doc-oc
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L1173[12:14:14] <LuMistry> Greeting
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L1176[12:14:24] <Forecaster> just one? :O
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L1178[12:15:14] <LuMistry> yes
L1179[12:15:18] <LuMistry> you got it Forecaster
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L1181[12:15:45] <Forecaster> woo!
L1182[12:15:56] * Forecaster puts his greeting in a safe so nobody can get it
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L1186[12:19:21] <Dashkal> That video is more than a little unsettling
L1187[12:21:22] <Forecaster> Vexatos: adding them one-by-one... nothing
L1188[12:21:27] <Forecaster> ._.
L1189[12:21:41] <Dashkal> https://xkcd.com/729/
L1190[12:21:41] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Laser Pointer Posted on: 4/19/2010
L1191[12:21:45] <Dashkal> I had missed that one >.>
L1192[12:21:59] <Vexatos> Forecaster, adding computronics 1.6.0 without railcraft update?
L1193[12:22:01] <Vexatos> does that do it?
L1194[12:22:21] <Vexatos> if so, it perhaps is a mod loading order thing
L1195[12:22:32] <Forecaster> no I meant, I added the same mods, and the blocks didn't get removed this time
L1196[12:23:12] <Mimiru> %tell Stary2001 Lizzy: Osiris isn't behaving, i tell it to uplink to athar & eos yet it jumps onto janus...
L1197[12:23:13] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Stary2001 will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1198[12:23:27] <Forecaster> but I added them one by one with a server start in-between each
L1199[12:23:45] <Stary2001> Mimiru: oh:?
L1200[12:24:32] <Forecaster> huh, sync wants to update a bunch of mod jars...
L1201[12:24:42] <Vexatos> Forecaster, so it's fixed? :D
L1202[12:24:49] <Mimiru> IDk..
L1203[12:24:50] <Mimiru> lol
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L1205[12:25:37] <Forecaster> I'm gonna sync it with the client like I did the first time and try starting it again
L1206[12:25:43] <Forecaster> see what happens
L1207[12:28:09] <Lizzy> PCL/EnderNet IRC serer links
L1208[12:29:13] <Lizzy> Stary2001: Mimiru ^
L1209[12:29:46] <Mimiru> Also... michiBot why you no send me my tell
L1210[12:30:13] <Mimiru> %tell Michiyo Test
L1211[12:30:14] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Michiyo will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1212[12:30:15] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L1213[12:30:23] <Mimiru> %tell Mimiru Test
L1214[12:30:24] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Mimiru will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1215[12:30:28] <Mimiru> Yeah.. wtf
L1216[12:30:32] <Mimiru> it's supposed to use the NS account
L1217[12:30:34] <Mimiru> and it's not
L1218[12:30:36] <Mimiru> fml
L1219[12:31:04] <Stary2001> Lizzy: o ok
L1220[12:35:25] <Vexatos> Forecaster, did it work? :D
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L1222[12:37:31] <Forecaster> no
L1223[12:37:45] <Forecaster> the blocks were already gone...
L1224[12:37:54] <Forecaster> the server didn't ask about them
L1225[12:38:15] <Forecaster> I thought the restored instance would have the world before that happened
L1226[12:38:34] * Michiyo stabs MichiBot
L1227[12:38:38] <Michiyo> no?
L1228[12:38:45] <Michiyo> There it goes...
L1229[12:38:46] <Michiyo> -_-
L1230[12:40:39] * Mettaton_Fab hugs Michjo
L1231[12:40:49] <Mettaton_Fab> *Michijo
L1232[12:41:12] <Mimiru> …
L1233[12:41:46] * payonel gives Mettaton_Fab tab completion
L1234[12:43:14] <MajGenRelativity> Hello Mettaton_Fab
L1235[12:43:19] <MajGenRelativity> long time no see :)
L1236[12:43:30] <Vexatos> Forecaster, it should have
L1237[12:43:39] <Vexatos> also, Forge ALWAYS makes a backup before removing blocks
L1238[12:43:45] <Vexatos> no matter whether you accept or not
L1239[12:43:51] <Vexatos> there will be one
L1240[12:44:00] <Forecaster> I know, there is
L1241[12:44:06] <Forecaster> just weird
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L1243[12:45:51] <Forecaster> is it just me or is mettaton slightly obnoxious?
L1244[12:45:59] <Lizzy> ^
L1245[12:46:06] <Stary2001> lmao
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L1247[12:47:13] <Mimiru> Lizzy, osiris linked to Eos, I didn't even see a connection attempt with Athar...
L1248[12:47:41] <Lizzy> Mimiru: yes, that's what i was saying was wrong
L1249[12:47:59] <Mimiru> No.. the issue was Osiris wasn't pulling configs properly
L1250[12:48:09] <Mimiru> It still isn't it seems.
L1251[12:48:16] <Mimiru> But Stary did a pull
L1252[12:48:36] <Lizzy> hmm
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L1254[12:50:56] <MajGenRelativity> hello Mettaton_Fab
L1255[12:51:07] <Mettaton_Fab> hello.
L1256[12:51:21] <Mettaton_Fab> Long Tem no see
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L1258[12:51:38] <Achai> Mettaton Keyfob
L1259[12:51:43] * Achai runs
L1260[12:52:21] * Mettaton_Fab Dismembers Achai
L1261[12:52:57] <MajGenRelativity> BTW, I did a map reset a couple of weeks ago
L1262[12:53:01] <MajGenRelativity> Interested in joining up again?
L1263[12:53:11] * Mettaton_Fab dances to cool music
L1264[12:53:35] <Mettaton_Fab> sorry, not until i get my workstation
L1265[12:53:38] <MajGenRelativity> kk
L1266[12:57:00] <Mettaton_Fab> oh, anyone needing an Asus Surpreme FX?
L1267[12:57:52] <MajGenRelativity> what's that?
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L1270[13:03:18] <Mettaton_Fab> the Asus surpreme FX is a sound card.
L1271[13:04:25] <MajGenRelativity> Ah
L1272[13:04:32] <MajGenRelativity> what is the advantage of having a sound card?
L1273[13:04:44] <Lizzy> you can hear sound
L1274[13:04:56] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, most motherboards have built in sound
L1275[13:05:04] <MajGenRelativity> I meant what is the advantage of a dedicated card
L1276[13:05:09] <MajGenRelativity> other than presumably better sound
L1277[13:05:47] <Lizzy> better sound, better encoding, higher quality. similar reasons to why you'd get a dedicated graphics card
L1278[13:06:08] <MajGenRelativity> encoding?
L1279[13:06:12] <MajGenRelativity> for making audio files?
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L1281[13:06:29] <Mettaton_Fab> i like that explanation
L1282[13:07:09] <MajGenRelativity> yeah
L1283[13:07:20] <MajGenRelativity> I'd probably be a poor choice
L1284[13:07:25] <MajGenRelativity> I don't like any music XD
L1285[13:07:33] <MajGenRelativity> not an exaggeration
L1286[13:07:37] <MajGenRelativity> I don't like ANY music
L1287[13:07:39] <DeanIsaKitty> MajGenRelativity: A soundcard can for example have dedicated Chips specifically for encoding and decoding. Also they are better with analogue in/output. And have more channels.
L1288[13:07:50] <MajGenRelativity> ah
L1289[13:08:02] <MajGenRelativity> I'll pass :)
L1290[13:08:14] <Mettaton_Fab> i have 2 asus surpreme fx and one from hoonsoft.
L1291[13:08:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, the supreme FX sucks though :D
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L1293[13:10:29] <Mettaton_Fab> but it is a good soundcard for starters
L1294[13:10:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, when you don't have an onboard one. If you do, don't even bother.
L1295[13:11:07] <Mettaton_Fab> and that hoonsoft one needs an evxpansion board for SPDIF
L1296[13:11:38] <Mettaton_Fab> i found them on the junkyard
L1297[13:14:15] <MajGenRelativity> my friend ate all my iron
L1298[13:14:18] <Mettaton_Fab> i also found an ATI Rage 128 there
L1299[13:14:25] <MajGenRelativity> so now I can't do OC or galacticraft
L1300[13:15:46] <Mettaton_Fab> how did he eat it?
L1301[13:15:54] <MajGenRelativity> I don't know
L1302[13:16:42] <Mettaton_Fab> bear Grills style?
L1303[13:17:14] <MajGenRelativity> I don't know!
L1304[13:17:18] <MajGenRelativity> he also ate all my aluminum
L1305[13:18:00] <Mettaton_Fab> yep, Bear Grills Style!
L1306[13:21:28] <Mettaton_Fab> How do i mettafy my computer in OC?
L1307[13:24:13] <MajGenRelativity> oh, that reminds me
L1308[13:24:25] <MajGenRelativity> is there a way for a program to know what OS the OC computer is running?
L1309[13:24:44] <Vexatos> _G._VERSION?
L1310[13:25:01] <MajGenRelativity> what?
L1311[13:25:31] <Vexatos> _G._VERSION.
L1312[13:25:38] <MajGenRelativity> what is that?
L1313[13:25:44] <Vexatos> The answer to your question.
L1314[13:25:53] <Vexatos> what does it look like? >_>
L1315[13:25:56] <Vexatos> a horse?
L1316[13:25:59] <Vexatos> :|
L1317[13:26:00] <Lizzy> yes
L1318[13:26:16] <MajGenRelativity> ok, but how do I use it?
L1319[13:26:19] <MajGenRelativity> Is it a variable?
L1320[13:26:22] <Lizzy> ....
L1321[13:26:33] <MajGenRelativity> a function?
L1322[13:26:33] <Vexatos> ....
L1323[13:26:37] <Vexatos> It's a horse.
L1324[13:26:45] <MajGenRelativity> listen
L1325[13:26:53] <Vexatos> hear
L1326[13:26:56] <MajGenRelativity> I know little about actual programming XD
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L1328[13:27:15] * Vexatos sighs
L1329[13:27:20] <Vexatos> #lua _VERSION
L1330[13:27:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Lua 5.3 Sandbox
L1331[13:27:50] <MajGenRelativity> so, it is a variable
L1332[13:28:00] <Vexatos> yes
L1333[13:28:04] <MajGenRelativity> ok
L1334[13:28:04] <Vexatos> for the Lua version
L1335[13:28:08] <MajGenRelativity> wait
L1336[13:28:10] <Vexatos> and _OSVERSION for the OS version
L1337[13:28:12] <Lizzy> if it was a function it'd have () at the end
L1338[13:28:13] <MajGenRelativity> ah, ok
L1339[13:28:23] * Mettaton_Fab puts Veatos in a Toaster
L1340[13:28:26] <MajGenRelativity> Lizzy, I can't dare make assumptions
L1341[13:28:30] <Mettaton_Fab> *Vexatos
L1342[13:28:44] <MajGenRelativity> thank you for your assistance Vexatos
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L1344[13:29:25] <Mettaton_Fab> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q
L1345[13:31:32] * Lizzy prods vifino
L1346[13:34:49] * Mettaton_Fab takes vifino away
L1347[13:35:19] * Lizzy ripts Mettaton_Fab limb from limb and takes vifino back
L1348[13:36:03] <DeanIsaKitty> Mettaton_Fab: Never get between a deity and their food... er family.
L1349[13:36:12] * Dashkal reassembles Mettaton_Fab.
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L1351[13:37:38] * Gavle begins activation process
L1352[13:37:52] <Gavle> 404: Agency Not Found
L1353[13:37:55] <Gavle> dang it
L1354[13:38:11] * Gavle shuts down
L1355[13:38:23] * Mettaton_Fab OH YES!
L1356[13:38:53] <MajGenRelativity> what?
L1357[13:39:16] <MajGenRelativity> do I need to activate the Osterhagen keys?
L1358[13:41:18] <Mettaton_Fab> who has äöüß and Wurstfüllpresse?
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L1360[13:42:37] <alekso56> Vexatos: but aren't the same people here? .-.
L1361[13:42:41] <Tazz> ikr
L1362[13:42:42] <Tazz> lol
L1363[13:42:44] <Mettaton_Fab> German at its finest.
L1364[13:42:45] <Vexatos> pfft
L1365[13:42:51] <Tazz> does anyone here use Lua for things besides CC?
L1366[13:42:55] <Tazz> ^^ for contex
L1367[13:42:59] <alekso56> lol cc
L1368[13:43:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: Yeah, OC.
L1369[13:43:09] <Vexatos> Tazz, https://github.com/fnuecke/eris
L1370[13:43:12] <alekso56> walked straight into that one.
L1371[13:43:13] <Vexatos> check that out
L1372[13:43:16] <Lizzy> OC and a GMod addon called Starfall
L1373[13:43:38] <alekso56> lua == edu,interface
L1374[13:43:58] <Tazz> Vexatos, uhm okay but why? XD
L1375[13:44:36] <Tazz> alekso56, again no its not just educationally based
L1376[13:44:57] <Tazz> although its going to be a challenge finding someone that doesnt use it outside of embedding it into already existing programs :P
L1377[13:45:00] <Vexatos> Tazz, because if you make eris for your impl you can have OpenComputers use your impl
L1378[13:45:05] <Vexatos> :P
L1379[13:45:42] <Tazz> Vexatos, and why would OC use my impl?
L1380[13:45:46] <Tazz> its written in C++
L1381[13:45:47] <Tazz> lol
L1382[13:45:56] <alekso56> Tazz: But i don't want to see lua outside edu and interfaces :L
L1383[13:45:58] <Vexatos> ewwwwwww
L1384[13:46:02] <Vexatos> ewwwwwwwwwwwwww c++
L1385[13:46:04] <Vexatos> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
L1386[13:46:05] <Tazz> I would have chosen C
L1387[13:46:09] <Tazz> but C++ was more benificial
L1388[13:46:13] <Vexatos> C is turing-complete
L1389[13:46:17] <Vexatos> your argument is invalid.
L1390[13:46:30] <Tazz> operator overloading and namespaces to be a few things that come to mind
L1391[13:46:50] <alekso56> pfft, write it all in javascript.
L1392[13:46:50] <Tazz> OOP also helps when designing the internals XD
L1393[13:46:55] <Tazz> alekso56, why?
L1394[13:47:01] <Tazz> I hate javascript to begin with
L1395[13:47:10] <Vexatos> write it in Lua already
L1396[13:47:13] <alekso56> ya
L1397[13:47:18] <Vexatos> so we can Lua in Lua while doing Lua in Lua
L1398[13:47:23] <alekso56> wait..
L1399[13:48:06] <alekso56> Vexatos: reminds me of this http://www.computercraft.info/forums2/index.php?/topic/15157-lualua-oop-programming-language-for-cc-new-anonymous-function-syntax/
L1400[13:48:11] <Tazz> also Vexatos I could totally port eris to my implementation
L1401[13:48:18] <Vexatos> Tazz, go ahead :P
L1402[13:48:34] <Vexatos> if Sangar's VMs all have a C++ compiler, why not :3
L1403[13:48:49] <Tazz> I would assume they have a C++ compiler :P
L1404[13:48:58] <Tazz> but anyways
L1405[13:49:24] <Tazz> Im just trying to find people on board with the idea of using lua as a proper programming language and not just embedding it into other software
L1406[13:49:41] <Vexatos> alekso56, and I thought Selene's parser was inefficient
L1407[13:49:54] <Vexatos> what. the. f. is this crappy code
L1408[13:50:11] <Tazz> XD
L1409[13:50:15] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: That's a stupid ass idea. Why would you ever want that?
L1410[13:50:43] <Tazz> DeanIsaKitty, why is it stupid?
L1411[13:50:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: I asked first.
L1412[13:50:52] <Tazz> was it not stupid when v8 did it to javascript?
L1413[13:51:01] <alekso56> Vexatos: same reaction i had when i had to judge the thing.
L1414[13:51:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: I hate JavaScript even more.
L1415[13:51:14] <Tazz> do you not see the potential benifits of having the ability to write performant applications in a simple to learn language?
L1416[13:51:27] <Tazz> where is this a bad idea?
L1417[13:51:39] <Tazz> DeanIsaKitty, good for you im on the same boat
L1418[13:51:44] <Tazz> but thatss besides the point
L1419[13:51:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: I could make that point about Visual Basic, but why not start with a language that scales even the slightest bit, like Ruby of fucking python?
L1420[13:52:18] <Tazz> not a fan of python
L1421[13:52:22] <Vexatos> alekso56, one file, 2000 lines
L1422[13:52:26] <Vexatos> AND I THOUGHT SELENE WAS BAD
L1423[13:52:37] <gamax92> Vexatos: 2000 files on line?
L1424[13:52:57] <g> Tazz: yeah lua is a terrible choice for this
L1425[13:53:02] <g> for so many different reasons
L1426[13:53:16] <Tazz> explain your reasons then oh wise coders
L1427[13:53:21] <Tazz> please enlighten me
L1428[13:53:43] <g> it doesn't scale, it's not performant enough, many "modern" coding features have to be added via hacks
L1429[13:54:04] <g> it's also a niche language in a way
L1430[13:54:11] <Tazz> g did I say I was using the original lua implementation?
L1431[13:54:12] <Tazz> no?
L1432[13:54:15] <Tazz> I didnt think so
L1433[13:54:18] <Tazz> so no it will scale
L1434[13:54:21] <gamax92> asshole mode engaged
L1435[13:54:26] <g> I'd like to see you actually back that up
L1436[13:54:27] <g> :P
L1437[13:54:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: Lua is designed to be embedded. YOu're using C for web services here and Haskell for system programming.
L1438[13:54:57] <Tazz> g back what up?
L1439[13:55:13] <g> You're telling me you're going to write an entire clean-room lua implementation
L1440[13:55:19] <g> that is not only massively more performant
L1441[13:55:23] <alekso56> error hanlding sucks,global by default,no unicode,regex sucks,no ternary,noposix,no objects,no yields,uncontrolled tables,return sucks, and more.
L1442[13:55:25] <g> but is still compatible?
L1443[13:55:31] <Tazz> g yeah
L1444[13:55:37] <gamax92> ... hah good one
L1445[13:55:39] <g> and your experience in doing this is where?
L1446[13:55:39] <alekso56> Handling.
L1447[13:55:39] <g> lol
L1448[13:55:58] <Tazz> well yall can suck my dick because heres my proof about the performance: https://github.com/s0cks/Eschelle
L1449[13:55:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: You have no idea what you're trying to do, do you?
L1450[13:56:10] <Tazz> 8 microseconds execution time for the supplied example
L1451[13:56:15] <gamax92> Tazz: you're no Mike Pall
L1452[13:56:18] <Tazz> with a 200 micrsecond overhead for compilation
L1453[13:56:48] <alekso56> Oh and i hate 1 indexed languages.
L1454[13:56:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: 13ms!
L1455[13:57:12] <Tazz> DeanIsaKitty, ?
L1456[13:57:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Giving absolute values is stupid and useless.
L1457[13:57:36] <g> yeah, that's.. going to be highly dependent on hardware
L1458[13:57:39] <Tazz> DeanIsaKitty, was an approximation
L1459[13:57:48] <Tazz> Ive seen it as low as 3
L1460[13:57:53] <Tazz> and as high as 10
L1461[13:57:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: You're making yourself seem so stupid right now.
L1462[13:57:59] <g> is it going to run in 8ms on the 256mb windows 95 machine in my shed?
L1463[13:58:01] <DeanIsaKitty> If I were you I'd shut the fuck up.
L1464[13:58:06] <gamax92> ... microseconds?
L1465[13:58:20] <alekso56> my computer runs on nanogamaxes
L1466[13:58:21] <g> I'd assume they meant miliseconds
L1467[13:58:24] <g> lol
L1468[13:58:40] <Tazz> g on a modern computer it would run that 8 microseconds no problem
L1469[13:58:44] <Tazz> its all machine code
L1470[13:59:01] <Tazz> and no g its microseconds
L1471[13:59:24] <g> ..so you've just wrote an interpreter to machine code
L1472[13:59:37] <g> tell me, how does that solve all the issues with lua addressed above?
L1473[13:59:52] <Lizzy> How many gigawatts of power does it consume per ms of execution time?
L1474[13:59:56] <g> haha
L1475[14:00:03] <payonel> 1.21
L1476[14:00:14] <Tazz> g that solves the performance issues and also helps me with optimizing scalability
L1477[14:00:26] <g> come to think of it, Tazz, what do you think you can do that luajit already does?
L1478[14:00:30] <g> or rather, that it doesn't
L1479[14:00:38] <Tazz> g lots of things
L1480[14:00:51] * Lizzy waits for evidence
L1481[14:00:54] <g> you don't think that maybe they have already tried to make it as performant as they can?
L1482[14:00:54] <g> :P
L1483[14:00:58] <gamax92> or example of "things"
L1484[14:01:10] <Tazz> mono/poly/mega-morphic inline caching, optimizing compilation
L1485[14:01:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: Dogs that bark don't bite. Come back with an implementation of Lua thats fast and *maybe* people start to believe the stupid bullshit you're saying has a true core.
L1486[14:01:26] <Tazz> DeanIsaKitty, do I have to go write it?
L1487[14:01:31] <Tazz> I just gave you a tech demo?
L1488[14:01:37] <g> that wasn't lua
L1489[14:01:40] <DeanIsaKitty> Until then, Fuck off, I don't want to deal with your shit.
L1490[14:01:56] <Tazz> g obviously
L1491[14:02:05] <Tazz> it was a language Im currently designing called Eschelle
L1492[14:02:11] <g> if it isn't compatible with lua as it is then it's not what you're telling us it is
L1493[14:02:12] <g> :P
L1494[14:02:19] <Tazz> g but the technology is there
L1495[14:02:25] <g> so, go apply it
L1496[14:02:28] <gamax92> Tazz: You can't just make a random project that happens to do something fast and then wow I can make Lua run super performant
L1497[14:02:29] <Tazz> allI have to do is port it to the project Im working on
L1498[14:02:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Can we just kick him? .-.
L1499[14:02:53] <Tazz> gamax92, it "happens" to do something fast?
L1500[14:03:06] <Tazz> theres reasons why it oes it fast
L1501[14:03:07] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, your call
L1502[14:03:08] <g> you're talking about this? https://github.com/s0cks/Luna
L1503[14:03:23] <Tazz> g thats a post-JIT compiler attempt
L1504[14:03:34] <Tazz> now Ive got a working JIT compiler its game on
L1505[14:03:41] <g> uhhuh
L1506[14:03:50] <g> come back in a few months with something that works maybe
L1507[14:03:50] <alekso56> cool, whatever. go home owo
L1508[14:03:50] <g> :P
L1509[14:04:01] <Tazz> g Ill be back by sunday
L1510[14:04:05] <g> oh, and make sure it's cross-platform
L1511[14:04:08] <g> just like lua
L1512[14:04:10] <payonel> this popcorn needs more butter
L1513[14:04:16] <Tazz> ofc it would be portable
L1514[14:04:29] <Tazz> I wouldnt strip portability
L1515[14:04:36] <alekso56> payonel: here, take some soda. We're out of beer and butter.
L1516[14:04:38] <gamax92> portable and JIT do not mix
L1517[14:04:40] <Vexatos> do we have a remind bot in here?
L1518[14:04:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Tazz: Fuck off. Just get out. Please >.<
L1519[14:04:54] ⇦ Quits: sciguyryan (~sciguyrya@5.79.73.203) (Remote host closed the connection)
L1520[14:05:07] * Lizzy gives DeanIsaKitty her hammer
L1521[14:05:07] <Tazz> gamax92, uhm v8 defies that logic
L1522[14:05:11] <g> I'm done feeding the troll if you people want to kick
L1523[14:05:14] <Michiyo> Vexatos, I have a half written implementation at home
L1524[14:05:15] <g> up to you guys
L1525[14:05:20] <gamax92> I vote for a kick
L1526[14:05:25] <Michiyo> But.. no not in michibot currently
L1527[14:05:26] <Vexatos> Michiyo, py?
L1528[14:05:31] <DeanIsaKitty> !kick Tazz Your stupidity gives me migraines.
L1529[14:05:31] *** Tazz was kicked by zsh ((DeanIsaKitty (Dean4Devil)) Your stupidity gives me migraines.))
L1530[14:05:40] <Michiyo> MichiBot is Java
L1531[14:05:43] <Vexatos> DeanIsaKitty, don't make jokes about migraine D:
L1532[14:05:49] <Vexatos> Java D:
L1533[14:05:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: I don't.
L1534[14:05:54] <g> My bot uses python :3
L1535[14:05:58] <Lizzy> Same
L1536[14:06:01] <g> and lua, soon
L1537[14:06:02] <alekso56> my grains!
L1538[14:06:13] <Lizzy> I should really code more of my new bot...
L1539[14:06:14] <Michiyo> I wrote MichiBot to better understand Java...
L1540[14:06:17] <payonel> hmm, does + give !kick?
L1541[14:06:25] <g> it's just how they have their flags
L1542[14:06:26] <gamax92> my bot is just a crappy lua one :/
L1543[14:06:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Great, now I have migraines AND a bad mood. Fuck this
L1544[14:06:27] <Lizzy> payonel, not directly
L1545[14:06:34] <gamax92> !kick payonel
L1546[14:06:35] <payonel> !kick payonel you're a jerk
L1547[14:06:36] *** payonel was kicked by zsh ((payonel (sugoi)) you're a jerk))
L1548[14:06:40] * Lizzy pets DeanIsaKitty
L1549[14:06:44] <gamax92> D: payonel has power
L1550[14:06:49] <g> haha
L1551[14:06:52] ⇨ Joins: payonel (~sugoi@174-24-217-67.tukw.qwest.net)
L1552[14:06:52] zsh sets mode: +v on payonel
L1553[14:06:55] <Michiyo> Wb
L1554[14:06:58] <payonel> :)
L1555[14:07:02] <Mettaton_Fab> or: /me pets lizzy
L1556[14:07:12] * Lizzy stabs Mettaton_Fab
L1557[14:07:13] * gamax92 pets Lizzy
L1558[14:07:18] * Lizzy purrs
L1559[14:07:37] <g> hm, I wonder how deferreds would work in lua, come to think of it
L1560[14:07:47] <g> is there some kind of common async pattern people use in lua?
L1561[14:07:51] * Mettaton_Fab shows that he can't be stabbed
L1562[14:08:43] * Lizzy rips Mettaton_Fab limb from limb and dumps the parts into an acid vat
L1563[14:08:46] <g> (I know that lua doesn't really do much async by default, but..)
L1564[14:08:59] <gamax92> g threading libraries?
L1565[14:09:07] <g> they aren't actually threads, though
L1566[14:09:14] <g> they're more like callbacks in js
L1567[14:09:23] <Vexatos> payonel, how did you kick yourself? D:
L1568[14:09:27] <gamax92> that reminds me of a thing
L1569[14:09:36] <gamax92> SDL2's audio stuff works by callbacks
L1570[14:09:48] <g> I guess deferreds are just another name for futures
L1571[14:09:53] <gamax92> but I can't do that in luajit/luaffi, it crashes the VM
L1572[14:10:03] <g> I'm using lupa backed by luajit
L1573[14:10:10] <g> and it's on the same thread so it should be fine
L1574[14:10:14] <payonel> Vexatos: :)
L1575[14:10:16] <g> with a reactor
L1576[14:10:37] <gamax92> Was told that SDL2 will randomly jump in and thanks to ffi ends up calling lua vm related things, whether or not the VM is even in a clean state
L1577[14:11:02] <gamax92> Segmentation Fault, Bus Errors, Aborted, random lua errors, random glibc errors, fun
L1578[14:11:05] <g> yeah, while I'm not 100% sure how lupa works, it's definitely not like that
L1579[14:11:06] <Vexatos> !kick Vexatos
L1580[14:11:07] <Vexatos> awwww
L1581[14:11:12] <g> Vexatos, add a reason
L1582[14:11:18] <Lizzy> !flags
L1583[14:11:26] <Vexatos> !kick Vexatos g < h
L1584[14:11:28] <Vexatos> awww
L1585[14:11:30] <g> lol
L1586[14:11:32] <Lizzy> !flags Vexatos +er
L1587[14:11:32] -zsh- Lizzy set flags +er on Vexatos.
L1588[14:11:36] <g> er
L1589[14:11:37] <Vexatos> weeee
L1590[14:11:37] <Lizzy> now try
L1591[14:11:40] <payonel> btw, when i asked about + and !kick, i know + is an irc thing, and !kick is a bot thing
L1592[14:11:50] <payonel> but i was wondering if zsh works based on +
L1593[14:11:57] <Vexatos> !kick Vexatos Lizzy is a fish
L1594[14:11:57] *** Vexatos was kicked by zsh ((Vexatos) Lizzy is a fish))
L1595[14:12:00] ⇨ Joins: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300556E6CB7357DAFB0D63AE3EE07.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)
L1596[14:12:00] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L1597[14:12:02] <Vexatos> Yay \:D/
L1598[14:12:04] <gamax92> you can configure what flag zsh responds to
L1599[14:12:05] <g> gamax92, lupa is fairly complicated given that, as far as I can see, you can also import from python in your lua
L1600[14:12:09] <payonel> i se
L1601[14:12:11] <payonel> +e
L1602[14:12:13] <Lizzy> nope, it works based on the +r chanserv clag
L1603[14:12:15] <Lizzy> *flag
L1604[14:12:17] <Vexatos> What is +e
L1605[14:12:22] <Lizzy> payonel, +e is exempt
L1606[14:12:23] <gamax92> you can also configure what name zsh has
L1607[14:12:26] <payonel> !flags
L1608[14:12:28] <Vexatos> What does that mean
L1609[14:12:30] <Vexatos> !flags
L1610[14:12:41] <g> then again I suppose I don't really need to change deferreds if that's the case
L1611[14:12:45] <Vexatos> What does +e do
L1612[14:12:46] <g> hmm
L1613[14:12:48] <Lizzy> Vexatos, basically you're excempt from any +b's
L1614[14:12:54] <Lizzy> or something like that
L1615[14:12:58] <g> yeah, if the +b is a flag
L1616[14:13:00] <g> on a hostmask
L1617[14:13:09] <g> it's like ban exceptions, but flags
L1618[14:13:13] <gamax92> like Soni? :P
L1619[14:13:14] <Vexatos> wait, +r is allowing kicking non-ops, right?
L1620[14:13:27] <Vexatos> so I could kick g? D:
L1621[14:13:30] <Lizzy> Vexatos, +r allows using !kick[ban]
L1622[14:13:34] <g> yeah, it's pretty typical of IRC to not be able to kick people higher than you
L1623[14:13:43] <Vexatos> !kick Lizzy CAN I KICK OPS
L1624[14:13:43] *** Lizzy was kicked by zsh ((Vexatos) CAN I KICK OPS))
L1625[14:13:46] <gamax92> overthrow the king!
L1626[14:13:49] ⇨ Joins: Lizzy (lizzy@lizzy.theender.net)
L1627[14:13:49] <EnderBot2> Ohai there Lizzy
L1628[14:13:49] zsh sets mode: +o on Lizzy
L1629[14:13:50] <Vexatos> wat
L1630[14:13:50] <Stary2001> lmao
L1631[14:13:51] <g> uh-oh xD
L1632[14:13:56] <Vexatos> this works?
L1633[14:13:56] <Vexatos> wow
L1634[14:13:58] <Vexatos> zsh please
L1635[14:14:00] <gamax92> Sangar is the kind!
L1636[14:14:02] <Vexatos> Fix yer perms
L1637[14:14:05] <g> maybe esper changed it
L1638[14:14:06] <gamax92> Lizzy is the queen
L1639[14:14:14] <Vexatos> g: +r always allowed kicking anyone
L1640[14:14:14] * Lizzy praises gamax92
L1641[14:14:16] <gamax92> Michiyo is the princess
L1642[14:14:16] <Vexatos> but it should not
L1643[14:14:20] <payonel> gamax92: king* ?
L1644[14:14:22] <Vexatos> <gamax92> Sangar is the kind!
L1645[14:14:23] <Vexatos> kind
L1646[14:14:28] <Vexatos> Yep
L1647[14:14:31] <Vexatos> Sangar is German
L1648[14:14:34] <Vexatos> P:
L1649[14:14:35] <scj643> I've been using Python a lot
L1650[14:14:36] <gamax92> :P
L1651[14:14:44] <Lizzy> scj643, bit late to the party?
L1652[14:14:47] <g> scj643: Excellent, keep doing that
L1653[14:14:47] <g> \o/
L1654[14:14:54] <gamax92> I've been using Lua a lot
L1655[14:14:59] <gamax92> LUA ALOT
L1656[14:14:59] <EnderBot2> Lua*
L1657[14:14:59] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt
L1658[14:15:02] <scj643> I have a site that can get videos from Funimation's site
L1659[14:15:03] <gamax92> :3
L1660[14:15:07] <scj643> *stream
L1661[14:15:13] <g> LUA
L1662[14:15:13] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym
L1663[14:15:13] <payonel> ha, nice
L1664[14:15:18] <scj643> And it's not region locked
L1665[14:15:27] <Izaya> chorded keyboards confirmed awesome
L1666[14:15:37] <scj643> So Lizzy you can enjoy it too
L1667[14:15:50] <scj643> Their CDN has no authentication
L1668[14:16:04] <CompanionCube> Izaya,
L1669[14:16:06] <CompanionCube> https://www.haiku-os.org/community/forum/beos_5_pe_software_archive
L1670[14:17:02] <Izaya> oooooo
L1671[14:17:29] * DeanIsaKitty hisses at Lizzy and bits her hand
L1672[14:17:44] <Lizzy> oww
L1673[14:17:45] <CompanionCube> Izaya, you like?
L1674[14:17:55] * Lizzy rubs her hand and cries
L1675[14:18:46] * Forecaster provides bowl of cold water
L1676[14:19:00] <scj643> https://github.com/ABusers/A-Certain-Magical-API
L1677[14:19:18] <scj643> That's the code that makes this Funimation API work
L1678[14:19:38] <scj643> It processes their json responses
L1679[14:19:48] <Temia> Not a Certain Pythonic API? tsk.
L1680[14:20:24] <scj643> I could have named it A-Certain-Scientific-API
L1681[14:20:36] <gamax92> Temia is the local minotaur
L1682[14:21:12] <scj643> Well anyone can run that in Python 2
L1683[14:21:26] <scj643> You need requests and requests-cache
L1684[14:21:56] <scj643> To prevent spamming Funimation's site
L1685[14:21:56] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1686[14:22:16] <Temia> I dunno, Python is pseudocode that works. That's fairly magical.
L1687[14:22:31] <Temia> Then again Perl is the stuff that looks like the arcane writing of wizards.
L1688[14:22:33] <Temia> Hmmm.
L1689[14:22:35] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net:8080
L1690[14:22:45] <Temia> Screw it, my brother's the toAru fan, not me
L1691[14:22:53] <scj643> That's the site
L1692[14:23:21] <scj643> Where I host it
L1693[14:23:45] <scj643> You can watch anything from Funimation using that
L1694[14:23:59] <scj643> Just you have to have a good media player
L1695[14:24:09] <scj643> MPV works well with the mobile URL
L1696[14:25:01] <scj643> What you guys think
L1697[14:25:25] <scj643> Also if your a Mac user the mobile URL is usable in safari
L1698[14:25:29] <CompanionCube> Temia, if you think python is pseudocode
L1699[14:25:32] <CompanionCube> don't look at Inform 7
L1700[14:25:49] <Temia> I'm just quoting a popular statement on it
L1701[14:26:00] <Temia> I use the language frequently, I'm allowed to rib on it a little
L1702[14:26:02] <scj643> Anyone take a look
L1703[14:26:27] <CompanionCube> Temia, of course you are :
L1704[14:26:42] <CompanionCube> I was just about to show a language that's even more magical and psuedo-codey
L1705[14:26:46] <CompanionCube> but the website is down
L1706[14:26:55] ⇨ Joins: JZTech10101 (jztech101@ciara.techcavern.ml)
L1707[14:26:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: Actually *you* are allowed to beat it to a whimpy mess and laugh at whats left. Python is god-awful though :P
L1708[14:27:21] <scj643> Urllib is aweful
L1709[14:27:27] <Temia> Oh hush :p It's better and more consistent than some languages out there.
L1710[14:27:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: Totally. Don't forget that I am grumpy as fuck and hate everything with a passion.
L1711[14:28:16] <S3> hey guys!
L1712[14:28:18] <payonel> ok everyone, one choice response. what is your favorite language, with its faults or not, just, what's your favorite
L1713[14:28:31] <S3> ok. Who was the one that was looking into MIPS on OC?
L1714[14:28:40] <CompanionCube> greaser|q
L1715[14:28:42] <Vexatos> payonel, LOLCODE because LOLCODE
L1716[14:28:43] <S3> that's right
L1717[14:28:44] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: Doesn't exists. Best tool for the job approach, everything else is stupid as fuck.
L1718[14:28:45] <payonel> S3: ^
L1719[14:28:48] <Temia> Good point.
L1720[14:28:49] <CompanionCube> and not looking into, *made*
L1721[14:28:54] <S3> WAIT
L1722[14:28:55] <CompanionCube> to the point where Linux partially boots
L1723[14:28:55] <scj643> Hi s3
L1724[14:28:56] <Temia> Go have some catnip and chill out
L1725[14:28:58] <S3> he's done already?!
L1726[14:28:58] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Oh no, another idiot.
L1727[14:28:59] <payonel> DeanIsaKitty: that's not what i'm asking. just, which do you like the most
L1728[14:29:04] <payonel> not "what is best in all cases"
L1729[14:29:11] <payonel> meh, i'll answer my own question, c++
L1730[14:29:13] <payonel> :)
L1731[14:29:14] <scj643> Me and some other people made https://github.com/ABusers/A-Certain-Magical-API S3
L1732[14:29:19] <CompanionCube> for something I can acrually use? Ruby
L1733[14:29:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: Actually, that is a great idea.
L1734[14:29:29] * payonel smiles at the rotten food thrown in the air
L1735[14:29:38] <CompanionCube> just for existing? A Smalltalk or Lisp implementation
L1736[14:29:49] <S3> interesting
L1737[14:29:53] <S3> DeanIsaKitty: hmm?
L1738[14:30:38] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: Doesn't exist. I don't give two fucks about languages. They are either fit for a problem or they plain suck. I can tell you what language I hate most though.
L1739[14:30:57] <scj643> S3 are you on an android phone right now
L1740[14:31:05] <payonel> haha, then you can have a language you hate least
L1741[14:31:06] <S3> No
L1742[14:31:16] <S3> scj643: definately not
L1743[14:31:21] <Lizzy> %tell SuPeRMiNoR2 nub
L1744[14:31:21] <scj643> What do you have for a media player
L1745[14:31:22] <MichiBot> Lizzy: SuPeRMiNoR2 will be notified of this message when next seen.
L1746[14:31:25] <Michiyo> lol
L1747[14:31:43] <Temia> Dean, the catnip.
L1748[14:31:45] * Mettaton_Fab pets Temia
L1749[14:31:54] <Temia> Go have some before you burst a blood vessel.
L1750[14:31:57] <scj643> I need people to test my Funimation site with different media players
L1751[14:32:09] <Lizzy> "<+payonel> ok everyone, one choice response. what is your favorite language, with its faults or not, just, what's your favorite" Python 3
L1752[14:32:17] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: Language with the least flaws in design? One of the crazy functional ones, ask Dashkal which ones the current best. Best overall? C or Rust because fuck interpreted languages, fuck weak typing.
L1753[14:32:24] <Mettaton_Fab> Brainfuck
L1754[14:32:25] <scj643> Mine is Python 2
L1755[14:32:30] <Temia> scj, I'd offer to give it a poke, but I have the bandwidth of a straw.
L1756[14:32:46] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: Shut up :<
L1757[14:32:53] <scj643> It grabs 4000kbps video iirc
L1758[14:32:55] <Temia> nah fam
L1759[14:32:56] <Lizzy> though if i could find a proper LOLPython interpreter that works with most stuff i'd totally use it
L1760[14:32:59] <Michiyo> I loaded it... but I'm at work, connecting via RDP, on a 2002 computer, that struggles with IRC currently
L1761[14:33:04] <payonel> not asking which has the least flaws, saying, flaws galore or not, which do you enjoy using the most, which do you like
L1762[14:33:18] <payonel> even if it's like the worst langauge there is, but you like it
L1763[14:33:26] <S3> scj643: media player? I have a few. I often just use mplayer, but I have vlc for watching twitch streams and styuff
L1764[14:33:29] <S3> stuff*
L1765[14:33:34] <S3> I also use xine for drawing movies in ascii art
L1766[14:33:38] <scj643> Try my site
L1767[14:33:43] <scj643> In everything you got
L1768[14:33:44] <S3> in very small font sizes on large screens :D
L1769[14:33:53] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: I enjoy writing the language that solves the problem I need solved in the easiest way. Sometimes its C, sometimes C+, Rust, Haskell, Scala, Scheme. It's never Javascript or Ruby.
L1770[14:33:58] <S3> scj643: oh?
L1771[14:34:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Or Go for that matter. Fucking hell Go is bad.
L1772[14:34:09] <S3> DeanIsaKitty: most of the time it's lolcode
L1773[14:34:10] <S3> :P
L1774[14:34:15] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net:8080
L1775[14:34:16] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Yeah shut up
L1776[14:34:18] <S3> :)
L1777[14:34:20] <Michiyo> Fine... PHP... There I said it.
L1778[14:34:24] <Michiyo> :P
L1779[14:34:27] <S3> DeanIsaKitty: the lolcode 1.2 specs are now out :D
L1780[14:34:36] <scj643> Also region doesn't mater
L1781[14:34:36] <S3> I lol'd
L1782[14:34:45] <DeanIsaKitty> S3: Go build a POSIX in it and come back when you're done
L1783[14:34:51] <payonel> DeanIsaKitty: so if you find a problem is better solved with c++, you're not more excited or disappointed that it didn't turn out to be better solved with scala?
L1784[14:34:54] <S3> DeanIsaKitty: no.
L1785[14:34:56] <scj643> Funimation is supposed to be locked to the U.S.
L1786[14:34:59] <payonel> you're 100% indifferent?
L1787[14:35:06] <payonel> (except for Go)
L1788[14:35:07] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: FFS are you that bad at reading english?
L1789[14:35:08] <payonel> :)
L1790[14:35:16] <S3> scj643: not doing that here, lol
L1791[14:35:26] <Temia> Okay, Dean, seriously.
L1792[14:35:27] <payonel> haha, maybe, i'm multitasking and didn't read everything in the scrolling text
L1793[14:35:31] * payonel scrolls up
L1794[14:35:34] <S3> scj643: I'm in cpu architecture lab
L1795[14:35:34] <scj643> Well all access to Funimation is done on the server side
L1796[14:35:42] <scj643> Oh
L1797[14:35:45] <Lizzy> ermmm, okay darcath is being weird
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L1799[14:35:49] <Temia> Step away from the keyboard and do something more conducive to blowing off steam.
L1800[14:35:49] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: No, I don't care about languages. Haskell is awesome at text parsing. If I write a log parser I write it in Haskell. If I write an OS, C it is. Desktop app for Windows & Linux? C++.
L1801[14:35:52] <scj643> Lizzy try my site
L1802[14:35:58] <S3> I'm trying to get this blasted Cortex-M4 to behave
L1803[14:36:05] <scj643> See if you can play the videos
L1804[14:36:13] <Lizzy> currently having issues with my pi
L1805[14:36:17] <scj643> K
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L1808[14:36:32] <S3> Lizzy: my usb port fried two raspberry pis this semester
L1809[14:36:33] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: Web Service: Rust or Scala. Suicide mission: Ruby or Javascript or one of those.
L1810[14:36:41] <Lizzy> Darcath is not looking good :/
L1811[14:36:47] <S3> somehow my usb port shorted out
L1812[14:36:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: Does getting high count?
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L1814[14:36:57] <payonel> DeanIsaKitty: fair enough. i definitely enjoy languages, and filter job search based on language
L1815[14:36:59] <Temia> Sure.
L1816[14:37:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Good, give me ten minutes or so <.<
L1817[14:37:11] <Temia> If that works for you, then it counts.
L1818[14:37:14] <Temia> Have fun.
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L1820[14:37:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: (sorry ._.)
L1821[14:37:33] <S3> payonel: : square dup * ; 9 square
L1822[14:37:34] <S3> 81 ok
L1823[14:37:46] <greaser|q> boop
L1824[14:37:52] <S3> greaser|q: !!!!
L1825[14:38:00] <S3> greaser|q: I have been busy with school, how is MIPS?
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L1828[14:38:23] <Temia> It's fine Dean, we all have our offdays
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L1831[14:39:08] <greaser|q> S3: been taking a break but i managed to get linux to get up to the bit where it has to mount the volume... if i use vfat it mounts but then aborts because it doesn't even try to look up the disk, if i use ext2/3 it fails to mount
L1832[14:39:29] <scj643> Oh yeah most of my code was ripped out of a Kodi plugin
L1833[14:39:39] <scj643> But everything in Pythonista is my own
L1834[14:40:20] <S3> greaser|q: WOW.
L1835[14:40:35] <S3> greaser|q: so it is definately ready for testing with custom code then
L1836[14:40:51] <greaser|q> yeah, it just lacks an Official Toolchain(TM)
L1837[14:41:08] <S3> greaser|q: how much would it take to make it a target for LLVM?
L1838[14:41:27] <S3> would you have to include all the way up through MIPS32 / 64 ?
L1839[14:41:31] <greaser|q> uhh, at this stage, probably best not to bother with LLVM, that doesn't seem to support MIPS1, only MIPS2 and up
L1840[14:41:41] <S3> hm
L1841[14:41:53] <S3> big difference?
L1842[14:41:55] * Lizzy prods sharex
L1843[14:42:11] <scj643> The Windows software Lizzy?
L1844[14:42:13] * Lizzy also prods vifino again
L1845[14:42:17] <greaser|q> there's ops that aren't supported on MIPS1 that LLVM emits
L1846[14:42:23] <Lizzy> scj643, ShareX
L1847[14:42:37] <Lizzy> also darcath: https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/e180-00.jpg
L1848[14:42:39] <greaser|q> oh yeah, another issue i was stuck on showed up when i did rootdelay=5 and that task would sleep indefinitely
L1849[14:42:45] <scj643> I use that with the server at scj643.theender.net
L1850[14:42:55] <scj643> Under /s/item
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L1855[14:43:22] <scj643> So useful since my server is close and fast up speeds
L1856[14:43:32] <S3> greaser|q: how did you manage to get Linux running on it? you just took a precompiled mips1 compatible Linux?
L1857[14:43:43] <S3> kernel*
L1858[14:43:49] <greaser|q> S3: there's a rather nice porting guide on the mips-linux wiki
L1859[14:43:55] <S3> interesting
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L1861[14:44:17] <S3> once it's possible to target it via LLVM it's going to be a sick OC target
L1862[14:44:26] <scj643> Bus is going bbl
L1863[14:44:36] <S3> maybe it's better to just write OCBSD on it :P
L1864[14:44:42] <S3> lololol
L1865[14:44:50] <scj643> Lol
L1866[14:45:01] <S3> how are components going to work, though- or do they
L1867[14:45:17] <Lizzy> and whilst i was uploading the last picture, this happened https://www.theender.net/shx/zion/45b4-e6.jpg
L1868[14:45:20] <Dashkal> I see a ping, but far more scrollback than I have time to read for context.
L1869[14:45:44] <Michiyo> Dashkal, https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/today.php
L1870[14:45:46] <S3> Dashkal: I'm pretty good at holding page up and seeing the ping wish by
L1871[14:45:48] <S3> :D
L1872[14:46:06] <Dashkal> My personal scrollback got it, just more going on than I have time to reread.
L1873[14:46:10] <Dashkal> IRC from work :P
L1874[14:46:18] <Lizzy> have i done it..? have i finally killed Darcath?
L1875[14:46:34] <S3> greaser|q: got a repository for this stuff?
L1876[14:46:35] <Michiyo> Dashkal, IRC from work ftw... sorta :P But I'm there too lol
L1877[14:46:53] <Lizzy> nope, the fucker just came back to life
L1878[14:46:58] <Izaya> There are 96 printable chars, right?
L1879[14:47:19] <greaser|q> S3: i don't have one for the linux port yet
L1880[14:47:30] <S3> I meant for the MIPS arch
L1881[14:47:40] <greaser|q> https://github.com/iamgreaser/ocmips/
L1882[14:47:47] <greaser|q> i haven't pushed the latest stuff yet
L1883[14:48:09] <gamax92> #lua 128-32
L1884[14:48:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 96
L1885[14:48:12] <gamax92> Izaya: yes
L1886[14:48:51] <greaser|q> ...ah whatever, pushed the latest stuff
L1887[14:49:26] <Izaya> excelent
L1888[14:49:39] <greaser|q> there's 95
L1889[14:49:44] <greaser|q> you forgot that 127 is DEL
L1890[14:50:00] <Izaya> excellent*
L1891[14:50:14] <Izaya> even better
L1892[14:50:46] <S3> greaser|q: :)
L1893[14:50:47] <gamax92> greaser|q: ... right, 32-126, not 127.
L1894[14:51:17] <S3> greaser|q: I might be learning a lot more about MIPS quite soon, might be building a PCB for one
L1895[14:51:34] <greaser|q> S3: it's glorious... what model
L1896[14:52:47] <S3> We're not sure if we will be using MIPS yet, but we are looking at it as a possible alternative for ARM
L1897[14:52:59] <S3> it doesn't have to be super powerful
L1898[14:53:00] <greaser|q> MIPS is easier to emulate despite its weirdness
L1899[14:53:34] <S3> ooh! professor just gave me an RGB led strip
L1900[14:53:48] <greaser|q> but i suspect ARM might be easier to code for?
L1901[14:54:10] <greaser|q> if you're doing virtual memory the MIPS stuff is quite amusing
L1902[14:54:17] <S3> I doubt it
L1903[14:54:25] <S3> However, maybe we will.
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L1905[14:57:31] <scj643> Back
L1906[14:57:43] <scj643> Going to get used to my monitor at 24 hz
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L1908[14:58:22] <Lizzy> why is it at 24hz?
L1909[14:59:06] <scj643> Anime is 23.98 fps
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L1911[14:59:19] <scj643> I love google opinion rewards
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L1913[14:59:33] <ping> scj643, i though anime ws 16fps
L1914[14:59:37] <scj643> No
L1915[14:59:45] <scj643> It's encoded at 23.98
L1916[14:59:52] <Izaya> inb4 4k over HDMI
L1917[15:00:07] <scj643> I notice stuttering when my refresh rate is at 60 hz
L1918[15:00:26] <ping> vifino, cs:no?
L1919[15:00:37] <ping> vifi:no
L1920[15:00:54] <ping> i brb breakfast
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L1922[15:01:33] <Lizzy> bollocks
L1923[15:01:37] <Lizzy> laptop died
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L1928[15:02:15] <Lizzy> ping, vifino is sleeping, he's not responding to my pokes
L1929[15:02:38] <ping> fuu
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L1931[15:05:32] <ping> Lizzy, when does he usually wake up
L1932[15:05:35] <Izaya> why is it that most of the comments in my code are apologies?
L1933[15:05:47] <gamax92> scj643: anime doesn't run at a consistent rate, and I don't mean some random video you get I mean the content itself
L1934[15:06:12] <Lizzy> ping, he was awake earlier, then went off about 4:30pm GMT0 for a 'half hour nap' and hasn't come back since
L1935[15:06:48] <S3> DAFUQ
L1936[15:07:03] <S3> The instructions for this RGB LED strip say bake it in the oven at 80 degrees.
L1937[15:07:05] <S3> for 2 hours
L1938[15:07:07] <scj643> gamax92: the encoding is all that matters
L1939[15:07:10] <Izaya> // I'm sorry, I know this is depreciated
L1940[15:07:14] <S3> ?!?!?!?!
L1941[15:07:20] <gamax92> scj643: nah?
L1942[15:07:22] <scj643> yes
L1943[15:07:33] <scj643> If the FPS and refresh rate is off you get stuttering
L1944[15:07:40] <scj643> unless you use interplotation
L1945[15:07:50] <scj643> idk if I spelt that right
L1946[15:08:14] <gamax92> putting your monitor at a low refresh rate doesn't fix the fact that it's a low refresh rate
L1947[15:08:33] <scj643> It makes the content not stutter though
L1948[15:08:54] <scj643> without interplotation you get stuttering when a scene is panning
L1949[15:09:23] <scj643> Wish I had a hotkey to toggle my refresh rate
L1950[15:09:41] <scj643> From 60 and 24
L1951[15:09:51] <CompanionCube> Izaya, isn't the spelling deprecated
L1952[15:10:17] <Izaya> probably
L1953[15:10:31] <CompanionCube> unless you're talking about the value of something
L1954[15:10:39] <CompanionCube> in which case i think it's depreciated
L1955[15:11:34] <Izaya> I have set nospell for code
L1956[15:13:52] <scj643> http://store.steampowered.com/app/269210/ if anyone is thinking of getting the 4 pack
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L1958[15:16:49] <payonel> ha, how could you say that's not work 69 cents, sheesh
L1959[15:16:57] <payonel> er ,even 59
L1960[15:17:30] <scj643> I love games that are hack and slash
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L1963[15:22:43] <ping> ... what the fuck? http://betanews.com/2015/01/25/windows-10-is-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-for-the-linux-desktop/
L1964[15:23:16] <ping> I blame the Linux community for not capitalizing on Windows 8's failure in the court of public opinion. In other words, the enemy was at its weakest point, and the community did nothing. Sadly, the failure to act can be blamed on the fragmentation of the community; too many distros and a lack of leadership.
L1965[15:23:37] <ping> because there is nothing to do, workflow on linux is as fast as it can get right now
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L1967[15:23:50] <ping> workflow on windows is always painful and slow
L1968[15:23:51] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net:8000
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L1970[15:25:09] <Wiiplay123> lol installing gentoo on a VM for fun
L1971[15:25:24] <Wiiplay123> If it has good performance, I might install it on my old laptop
L1972[15:26:35] <flappy> ping: that's a year old
L1973[15:26:46] <ping> i know but people are still viewing and commenting on it ,_,
L1974[15:27:36] <ping> > Brian Fagioli >Fagioli
L1975[15:27:43] <payonel> Wiiplay123: why "lol"?
L1976[15:28:06] <Wiiplay123> knowyourmeme.com/memes/install-gentoo
L1977[15:28:33] <scj643> #lua print "test"
L1978[15:28:38] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > test | nil
L1979[15:28:53] <scj643> #lua print('test')
L1980[15:28:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > test | nil
L1981[15:28:56] <scj643> ?
L1982[15:29:01] <scj643> What am I doing wrong
L1983[15:29:02] <ping> install gentoo
L1984[15:29:12] <Wiiplay123> #lua for i = 1, 15 do print("SWOOD") end
L1985[15:29:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | SWOOD | nil
L1986[15:29:44] <payonel> weird
L1987[15:29:59] <payonel> gentoo is the only linux distro i use, for the last 15 years
L1988[15:30:24] <ping> payonel, install gentoo
L1989[15:30:31] <scj643> Lua can't use single quotes?
L1990[15:30:38] <ping> it can
L1991[15:30:42] <payonel> scj643: it can
L1992[15:30:48] <payonel> #lua 'foo'
L1993[15:30:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > foo
L1994[15:30:57] <payonel> #lua 'foo'.."bar"
L1995[15:30:57] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > foobar
L1996[15:31:27] <ping> <l '"',"'" -- the difference is the opposite quote is is ignored
L1997[15:31:27] <^v> ping, " | '
L1998[15:31:53] <Wiiplay123> #lua for k, v in pairs(_G) do print(k) end
L1999[15:31:54] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Output: http://hastebin.com/raw/imaxudelub
L2000[15:31:57] <Wiiplay123> wat
L2001[15:32:52] <Wiiplay123> wait why does deadbeef have an os library
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L2003[15:34:17] <Wiiplay123> http://puu.sh/ntJzZ/13a4d0f3c7.png
L2004[15:37:29] <Wiiplay123> #lua for k, v in pairs(_G.os) do print(k) end
L2005[15:37:30] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > clock | exit | difftime | time | date | nil
L2006[15:38:08] <scj643> I like python
L2007[15:39:41] <ping> ew
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L2009[16:01:02] <Wiiplay123> #lua for k, v in pairs(io.list("/")) do print(v) end
L2010[16:01:03] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: attempt to call a nil value (field 'list')
L2011[16:01:12] <Wiiplay123> #lua for k, v in pairs(_G.io) do print(k) end
L2012[16:01:12] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > write | nil
L2013[16:01:16] <Wiiplay123> wot
L2014[16:02:11] <CompanionCube> wow, https://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/77417/some-insane-ovh-ddos-protected-raid10-7-7gb-mo-15-yearly-unlimited-bandwidth-or-3gb-ram-offers#latest
L2015[16:02:14] <CompanionCube> such offer
L2016[16:03:13] <Lizzy> bed time
L2017[16:03:52] <Michiyo> Night Lizzy
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L2019[16:13:15] <Temia> That looks interesting, but I've managed to snag a VPS with similar specs as the first option (albeit without unlimited bandwidth) for a third of the price.
L2020[16:14:38] <CompanionCube> Temia, I'm very happy with time4vps as cheap provider. They take bitcoin, which is what I'm using
L2021[16:15:29] <scj643> I use digital ocean's first tier for my webserver, irc bouncer, icecast2 stream, and python web server
L2022[16:15:40] <scj643> 512 mb ram and 20 gb ssd
L2023[16:15:50] <CompanionCube> I have yet to use it for anything of real worth though
L2024[16:16:48] <CompanionCube> https://www.time4vps.eu/pricing/ I use the 'S' plan
L2025[16:16:58] <CompanionCube> unfortunately it's KVM vs OpenVZ
L2026[16:17:07] <CompanionCube> wait, strike that, reverse it
L2027[16:18:21] <CompanionCube> and I paid in advance for a year with Bitcoin
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L2033[17:00:43] <payonel> gamax92: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/pull/1681
L2034[17:00:49] <payonel> finally that PR done
L2035[17:00:55] <payonel> now that german is asleep :(
L2036[17:01:05] <gamax92> that german
L2037[17:01:23] <payonel> haha, +y
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L2040[17:02:45] <gamax92> payonel: inb4 I break this more
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L2043[17:05:14] <greaser|q> ffff stupid refcounting shit
L2044[17:05:32] <Kasen> you sound like you're having fun
L2045[17:05:37] <greaser|q> yeah
L2046[17:05:50] <greaser|q> ref counter here is underflowing somewhere, i'm trying to track how many things are using a given x86_64 register
L2047[17:06:11] <greaser|q> speaking of x86_64, that is some seriously nasty shit
L2048[17:07:26] <greaser|q> from the company that didn't bring you the ModR/M byte and the SIB byte comes the REX prefix
L2049[17:07:45] <greaser|q> basically, it just adds more complexity to your opcode emissions
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L2057[17:12:45] <payonel> gamax92: i actually hope you do
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L2059[17:13:18] <payonel> i'd much rather have someone here find issues than some user find an issue and not know how to report it, or just deals with it, or even stops using oc because of itr
L2060[17:13:46] <scj643> ^^^
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L2063[17:21:27] <payonel> vvv
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L2067[17:32:32] <gamax92> payonel: question, ctrl is only used in key_down, why not just put the kb.isControlDown call inside the if for that
L2068[17:33:13] <gamax92> since, you're only getting lucky that a bunch of other signals also happen to have addresses as the second thing and that kb.isControlDown doesn't care about not keyboards
L2069[17:37:04] <payonel> gamax92: good suggestion
L2070[17:37:13] <payonel> i'll include that in the next update
L2071[17:38:39] <payonel> or i'll amend it before he sees the PR
L2072[17:39:12] <gamax92> ;)
L2073[17:49:32] <gamax92> welp that's an OCEmu bug.
L2074[17:49:47] <payonel> gamax92: forced push
L2075[17:49:50] <payonel> what bug?
L2076[17:50:36] <gamax92> or ... no?
L2077[17:53:49] <gamax92> okay, is not
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L2080[18:09:22] <gamax92> payonel: feta cheese [Y/N]
L2081[18:10:13] <payonel> eeeehhhh, gouda cheese
L2082[18:10:20] <payonel> feta, depends on the cracker?
L2083[18:10:24] <payonel> :)
L2084[18:10:28] <payonel> or meat :)
L2085[18:11:17] <gamax92> salad
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L2113[21:18:48] <gamax92> payonel: you here?
L2114[21:20:14] <Kimiro> So, uhm... Is it possible to access an internet card in a server with a wireless tablet?
L2115[21:20:27] <ping> Kimiro, yes
L2116[21:20:58] <ping> someone made a remote component thing
L2117[21:21:00] <ping> i forgot who
L2118[21:21:32] <Kimiro> As and addon/mod or a program?
L2119[21:22:18] <ping> program ofc
L2120[21:22:19] <gamax92> %tell payonel if you put the cursor at the bottom of the screen and then shrink the resolution, term freaks out and then crashes when you press a key
L2121[21:22:19] <MichiBot> gamax92: payonel will be notified of this message when next seen.
L2122[21:27:58] <payonel> MichiBot: do you have any messages for me?
L2123[21:28:41] <Mimiru> payonel, did it send the message?
L2124[21:28:53] <payonel> gamax92: you mean in game when you use gpu.setResolution(w,h) ?
L2125[21:28:59] <payonel> Mimiru: it did, actually :)
L2126[21:29:34] <gamax92> actually it seems to derp in generall if the resolution is smaller than max
L2127[21:29:37] <Mimiru> cracked open my 3ds... thinking about hardmodding it...
L2128[21:29:45] <payonel> gamax92: thanks for testing that, i get too used to the confinements of ocemu and i forget about in game features
L2129[21:29:46] <gamax92> it'll happily go down to the bottom of the screen and then die
L2130[21:30:07] <gamax92> payonel: ocemu can switch resolutions >_>
L2131[21:30:10] <payonel> i don't update it when the gpu res changes
L2132[21:30:28] <payonel> i thought i had to change the config and shutdown restart...?
L2133[21:30:35] <payonel> or maybe this works now with the window-mode
L2134[21:30:40] <gamax92> that's to set the maxResolution
L2135[21:31:22] <payonel> yep, look at that
L2136[21:31:24] <payonel> nice
L2137[21:31:26] <payonel> ok thanks
L2138[21:33:46] <gamax92> >_> the fuck
L2139[21:33:56] <gamax92> gpu tests were crashing, restart minecraft, now it works again
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L2144[21:54:48] <payonel> gamax92: so term windows have 4 numbers, dx, dy, w, and h
L2145[21:55:01] <gamax92> not right now
L2146[21:55:06] <payonel> if resolution changes, do you think dx and dy should stay fixed while w and h shrink?
L2147[21:55:20] <payonel> or do you think dx, dy should drop first? or should they both be adjusted evenly?
L2148[21:55:38] <payonel> in my new term code, there is a single main window
L2149[21:55:51] <payonel> so there is a "window" concept still, with those 4 values
L2150[21:56:02] <payonel> what i removed what any type of window management code
L2151[22:00:16] <payonel> is there an event for gpu setREsolution
L2152[22:00:56] <gamax92> yes actually
L2153[22:01:06] <gamax92> screen_resized
L2154[22:01:11] <payonel> ok good
L2155[22:01:24] <payonel> so, do you have an opinion of my dx,dy question?
L2156[22:01:26] <gamax92> found that out today when testing a chunk of ocemu test
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L2166[22:52:14] <Kodos> Anyone good at spriting?
L2167[22:52:25] <payonel> making sprites?
L2168[22:52:30] <Kodos> Yeah
L2169[22:52:40] <payonel> nope
L2170[22:52:42] <payonel> :)
L2171[22:52:43] <Kodos> lol
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L2173[22:57:33] <rashy> -wave-
L2174[22:57:58] <Kodos> o/
L2175[22:58:22] <rashy> sup
L2176[22:58:43] <Kodos> Just working on a thing :3
L2177[22:59:15] <rashy> yay, things
L2178[22:59:19] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/nu7Co/6d5c1d08bf.png
L2179[23:00:54] <rashy> :o ooh
L2180[23:01:07] <Kodos> It's not perfect by any means
L2181[23:01:13] <Kodos> But I'm working on it
L2182[23:02:44] <rashy> (y)
L2183[23:12:05] <greaser|q> i've done spriting before, i generally try to avoid doing it though but i often have to do it anyway
L2184[23:14:50] <Kodos> Well, the item I'm spriting is basically just a glorified detonator, but it also has frequency selection, so I'm trying to do it so it looks like it has up/down buttons, and the big red button for detonation
L2185[23:15:01] <Kodos> All within a reasonable amount of space inside a 32x sprite
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L2189[23:39:21] <payonel> gamax92:i'm not getting screen_resized
L2190[23:39:43] <gamax92> payonel: ocemu doesn't emulate it yet if you're doing it there, sorry :c
L2191[23:39:56] <payonel> oh, ok
L2192[23:40:09] <payonel> coo, i'll test in game
L2193[23:45:05] <payonel> gamax92: we should add that event :)
L2194[23:45:37] <gamax92> watching anime
L2195[23:45:40] <gamax92> will do in a bit
L2196[23:47:55] <gamax92> payonel: interestingly btw, in oc, tmpfs seems to support any character for a filename, but will filter out certain characters for the actual disks
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L2198[23:55:34] <payonel> gamax92: ok i think i have it fixed
L2199[23:55:52] <gamax92> think? it's pretty easy to test it ;)
L2200[23:56:40] <payonel> but i'm a programmer, i can't promise things like that
L2201[23:56:51] <payonel> besides, i'm sure you'll break it again
L2202[23:56:56] <payonel> but, it's at least better
L2203[23:57:21] <gamax92> :3
L2204[23:57:35] <gamax92> I break things \o/
L2205[23:57:59] <payonel> sadly this increases term size, slightly
L2206[23:58:08] <payonel> i really wish stuff would stop growing :)
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