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L7[00:36:01] <gamax92> vifino?
L8[00:39:52] <ping> gamax92?
L9[00:48:58] <Saphire> ping?
L10[00:49:51] <Dashkal> Saphire?
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L12[01:03:18] <gamax92> #lua math.sqrt(10113728)
L13[01:03:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3180.2087981766
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L15[01:08:31] <gamax92> #lua math.sqrt(10113728/3)
L16[01:08:31] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 1836.0944057065
L17[01:23:09] <gamax92> #lua 10113728/(1100*1100*3)
L18[01:23:10] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2.7861509641873
L19[01:23:20] <gamax92> #lua (1100*1100*3)/10113728
L20[01:23:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.35891809627469
L21[01:25:25] <gamax92> #lua (1100*1100*3)/10113728*44100
L22[01:25:25] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 15828.288045714
L23[01:27:44] <gamax92> wow, doesn't sound that bad.
L24[01:29:14] <Saphire> Hm?
L25[01:30:59] <gamax92> Funky sampling rates :p
L26[01:35:43] <greaser|q> ok, the current MMIO API is a pile of shit and is causing me no end of grief so i'm looking into trying to slap together an API parsing syntax
L27[01:36:15] <greaser|q> the plus side of this is i can also make e.g. gpu.getResolution output as ints instead of fucking floats
L28[01:37:06] <Stary2001> fun
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L31[01:56:57] <Saphire> Fun \o/
L32[01:57:34] <vifino> gamax92: Yes?
L33[01:57:42] * vifino flops on Lizzy and kisses her
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L35[01:58:58] <greaser|q> i fixed a bug which revealed another bug
L36[01:59:08] <greaser|q> the bug that was fixed was that the foreground wasn't being set
L37[01:59:16] <greaser|q> the bug that was there was it was setting the colour to black
L38[02:00:46] <greaser|q> oh shit there's another bug
L39[02:00:55] <greaser|q> *(volatile char **)0xBFFF00288 = tmpbuf;
L40[02:00:58] <greaser|q> ^ spot the bug.
L41[02:01:10] <greaser|q> hint, this isn't a 64-bit system
L42[02:01:43] <Stary2001> extra 0?
L43[02:01:58] <Stary2001> because that var is 36 bits long :D
L44[02:02:08] <Stary2001> s/var/pointer
L45[02:02:08] <MichiBot> <Stary2001> because that pointer is 36 bits long :D
L46[02:04:35] <greaser|q> correct
L47[02:04:51] <greaser|q> next thing to fix is i need to make it realise that what i'm feeding it is a fat partition
L48[02:10:04] <greaser|q> also it wasn't an extra 0, it was an extra F
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L52[02:19:01] <Kodos> mmmmm salad
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L54[02:46:21] <greaser|q> ok the main reason it hasn't been detecting my FAT volume is because unmanaged hard drives are cached
L55[02:46:29] <greaser|q> regardless of the option that disables caching
L56[02:47:34] <greaser|q> just adding some codepages in order for FAT to actually work
L57[02:49:34] <greaser|q> "no working init found" lovely.
L58[02:50:44] <greaser|q> oh right, i accidentally copied busybox as /sbin/busybox not /sbin/init
L59[02:57:25] <vifino> So.. Apparently docker pull does not work without using a VPN on my local connection.
L60[02:57:30] <vifino> Fun.
L61[02:57:57] <greaser|q> dammit are unmanaged drives interleaved or something
L62[03:12:13] <greaser|q> ok, according to these sector reads they are fine
L63[03:26:17] <greaser|q> i've confirmed that the disk works, i just don't know why it can't find anything on it (the directory entries are fine!): https://i.imgur.com/fIbIUjk.png
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L65[03:34:19] <Inari> https://opensource.org/licenses/ms-pl.html so
L66[03:34:29] <Inari> if i include the license i can redistribute the DLLs i get with this?
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L73[04:12:29] <Forecaster> why can't I bind gpu card as a proxy? D:
L74[04:12:37] <Forecaster> it just says "no such component"
L75[04:13:04] <julien> I am having problems booting plan9k is there soomething special I need to do.. . EEPROM or something
L76[04:14:36] <Forecaster> do I need the entire address to bind a proxy?
L77[04:17:10] <julien> sorry I have 0 idea but I would imagine so
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L82[04:17:53] <Forecaster> damn
L83[04:18:05] <Forecaster> what was the command to get the whole address from a stub?
L84[04:18:21] <Vexatos> component.get
L85[04:18:34] <Vexatos> works with any length of stub, 3 minimum is just recommended
L86[04:19:45] <Forecaster> ah yes, now it works
L87[04:19:48] <julien> there is a get address function. ... I cant remebller were off the top of my head.. . but it exits
L88[04:19:50] <Forecaster> so you do need the whole address
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L93[04:21:29] <julien> I am having problems booting plan9k is there soomething special I need to do.. . EEPROM or something
L94[04:21:55] <Lizzy> julien: the standard Lua BIOS EEPROM should works
L95[04:21:57] <Lizzy> *work
L96[04:23:11] <Vexatos> Forecaster, with three characters you already have 46656 different possibilities so that's why 3 usually suffices :P
L97[04:23:22] <Vexatos> err no 4096
L98[04:23:25] <Vexatos> >_>
L99[04:23:58] <Lizzy> #lua 16*16*16
L100[04:23:58] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 4096
L101[04:24:16] <Lizzy> #lua 0xF
L102[04:24:16] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 15
L103[04:24:35] <julien> I am getting 06 _cowfs.lua something error then kernel panic
L104[04:25:47] <julien> side note I'm on my mobile currently please forgive my slowness
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L139[09:20:13] <Dashkal> Mrh
L140[09:20:33] <Forecaster> someone is starting a chainsaw :O
L141[09:25:10] <vifino> Forecaster: the only chainsawy thing about Dashkal is the fact that he can kill you.
L142[09:25:33] <Forecaster> close enough
L143[09:27:00] <gamax92> silly vifino
L144[09:27:31] <gamax92> chainsaws are also used to make landscapes beautiful
L145[09:27:47] <gamax92> so Dashkal is actually applying makeup to Forecaster
L146[09:28:20] <Forecaster> you'd probably be better off killing me :P
L147[09:31:22] <Lizzy> na, we need you alive
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L153[09:41:40] <vifino> WOOHOO
L154[09:41:55] <vifino> My processor finally got RMA'd after months!
L155[09:42:12] <vifino> Only took like 4 months
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L157[09:48:43] * vifino curls up on Lizzy and purrs happily
L158[09:50:24] <gamax92> https://i.imgur.com/CYQ5ofC.png ain't it beautiful?
L159[09:50:38] <gamax92> watch as the server gets less and less responsive over time :3
L160[09:51:12] <Vexatos> holy threadcount
L161[09:51:13] <Vexatos> what is that
L162[09:51:24] <gamax92> ComputerCraft
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L164[09:52:28] <Vexatos> 14/10
L165[09:52:33] <Vexatos> Cruor approves
L166[09:56:37] <Cruor> what did i approve now then
L167[09:56:58] <Michiyo> 5/7
L168[09:57:33] <alekso56> perfect score
L169[09:57:44] <Vexatos> #js
L170[09:57:48] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > null
L171[09:57:51] <Vexatos> #js [+!+[]]+[+[]]+[+!+[]+!+[]]+[+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]+!+[]]
L172[09:57:51] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "1024"
L173[09:57:57] <Vexatos> good job, cruor
L174[09:58:13] <Vexatos> Cruor, the thread count on gamax92's image
L175[09:58:18] <Cruor> thanks
L176[09:58:24] <Cruor> i have mastered the arts of js
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L178[10:01:20] <gamax92> But did Cruor ever look at the image>
L179[10:01:36] <gamax92> Find out next time on This-Show-Is-Canceled!
L180[10:03:00] <Cruor> i opened it :I
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L182[10:03:14] <Cruor> what am i looking at :I
L183[10:03:31] <Dashkal> It was a failed chainsaw start I think. Fell asleep again.
L184[10:04:15] * vifino goes near Dashkal with a cup of coffee
L185[10:04:17] <Vexatos> Cruor, look at the thread count
L186[10:04:20] * vifino pours it over Dashkal
L187[10:04:23] <Vexatos> in the bottom right graph
L188[10:04:23] <vifino> Now you're awake.
L189[10:04:29] <Dashkal> !
L190[10:04:35] <Cruor> thats nice
L191[10:04:41] <Vexatos> JVM threads :D
L192[10:04:45] <Dashkal> Yes, yes I am....
L193[10:04:49] <Cruor> looks like rip in pieces
L194[10:04:50] <gamax92> does vifino bathe in coffee now?
L195[10:05:10] <Dashkal> Ok, you're too adorable for the chainsaw ...
L196[10:05:19] * DeanIsaKitty hands Dashkal a nice cup of steaming hot espresso
L197[10:05:28] <Dashkal> Mmmmm
L198[10:05:51] <Vexatos> Cruor, gamax92 said it's CC :3
L199[10:06:04] <Cruor> dont doubt it :I
L200[10:06:23] <gamax92> Cruor is like, Why are they showing me this, I already know CC is bad
L201[10:06:46] <Vexatos> Nah
L202[10:06:56] <Vexatos> I am just randomly pinging him about random things in random channels today
L203[10:07:00] <Vexatos> it's ping-cruor day
L204[10:07:09] <Vexatos> Did it in #vazkii too
L205[10:07:21] <Vexatos> because he randomly pings me all the time :D
L206[10:07:25] <vifino> Dashkal: I am *not* adorable.
L207[10:07:33] <vifino> I just poured hot coffee over you.
L208[10:07:36] <alekso56> gamax92: he needs arrows and red circles to grab his attention.
L209[10:08:08] <Dashkal> Evil and adorable do not exclude each other
L210[10:08:12] <CompanionCube> vifino is very much adorable
L211[10:08:22] <vifino> .-.
L212[10:08:23] <Cruor> #js (![]+[])[+!+[]]
L213[10:08:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "a"
L214[10:08:30] <Cruor> basicly mastered js at this point
L215[10:08:31] <gamax92> I think vifino is also adorable
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L217[10:08:39] <gamax92> Cruor: ;-; da fak
L218[10:08:49] <CompanionCube> Cruor, is that JSFuck
L219[10:08:54] <g> yes.
L220[10:08:57] <Cruor> yea
L221[10:09:01] <Cruor> though im writing it manualy :p
L222[10:09:14] <vifino> CompanionCube: I am not adorable.
L223[10:09:18] <vifino> gamax92: I am not adorable.
L224[10:09:27] * CompanionCube cuddles vifino
L225[10:09:28] <Cruor> :I kawaiii
L226[10:09:29] <CompanionCube> yes you are
L227[10:09:31] <gamax92> you are, silly <3
L228[10:09:31] <alekso56> .. adowaabble
L229[10:09:31] <vifino> Dashkal: I am not adorable and only evil sometimes.
L230[10:09:34] <AlissaSquared> is vifino being adorable by saying how adorable he isn't :3
L231[10:09:39] <gamax92> yus
L232[10:09:45] <Dashkal> Yes
L233[10:09:45] <AlissaSquared> how adorable
L234[10:09:49] <vifino> .---.
L235[10:09:52] <Michiyo> Dawwwww
L236[10:10:00] <alekso56> *petpet*
L237[10:10:10] * Lizzy giggles and pets vifino
L238[10:10:18] <vifino> Why do you all say I'm adorable? ;_;
L239[10:10:24] <Lizzy> you are adorable, there's no way of getting out of it
L240[10:10:25] * vifino purrs
L241[10:10:28] <Michiyo> Cause you are!
L242[10:10:40] <alekso56> because it annoys you :p
L243[10:10:47] <Michiyo> A bit of that too ^ :P
L244[10:11:18] <vifino> .-.
L245[10:11:28] <Temia> As you're a catboy, it kind of comes with the territory
L246[10:12:27] <CompanionCube> does that mean vifi has a tail
L247[10:12:58] <Temia> ... owo
L248[10:13:00] <alekso56> amoo?
L249[10:13:11] <vifino> .-.
L250[10:13:12] <Temia> Hm?
L251[10:13:34] <gamax92> Local minotaur goes amoooo~
L252[10:13:40] <alekso56> Temia: You must be experienced in cute owo.
L253[10:14:46] <Temia> I am!'
L254[10:15:14] <Temia> And I can safely say Vifino is cute as a button.
L255[10:15:18] * Temia cheekpinch.
L256[10:15:28] * alekso56 pushes button. OWO
L257[10:16:37] <vifino> '.'
L258[10:20:03] <DeanIsaKitty> ^^
L259[10:20:27] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Don't. Say. It.
L260[10:20:36] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: You
L261[10:20:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Are
L262[10:20:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Adooooooraaable
L263[10:20:51] <vifino> .-----.
L264[10:20:53] <Lizzy> :
L265[10:20:56] <Lizzy> :3
L266[10:21:10] <Lizzy> i need to make arch turn on my numpad at bootup
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L268[10:21:13] <Vexatos> YOU ARE A DOOR, ABEL
L269[10:21:49] <g> Haha
L270[10:21:57] <g> Lay it on, DeanIsaKitty, lay it on thick
L271[10:21:58] <g> xD
L272[10:22:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Shut up g :P
L273[10:22:12] <g> :P
L274[10:22:27] <vifino> You are all idiots .--.
L275[10:22:40] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm a kitty
L276[10:22:48] <Lizzy> that doesn't change the fact that you're adorable
L277[10:22:55] * Lizzy pets DeanIsaKitty
L278[10:22:59] * DeanIsaKitty purrs
L279[10:28:07] * vifino sighs and curls up on Lizzy
L280[10:29:01] * Lizzy pets vifino
L281[10:30:09] * vifino purrs
L282[10:30:20] <Vexatos> inb4 cat fight between vifino and DeanIsaKitty
L283[10:30:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: inb4 I slice your face open
L284[10:31:08] <Vexatos> Did you forget? I am a robot
L285[10:31:08] <Vexatos> D:
L286[10:31:38] <vifino> Vexatos: no, we like each other a lot.
L287[10:31:49] <vifino> plus I'm too lazy.
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L291[10:33:43] <Temia> There is apparently a package just for that, Lizzy
L292[10:33:58] <Lizzy> ?
L293[10:34:00] <Temia> numlockx
L294[10:34:06] <Lizzy> ah, oh cool
L295[10:34:43] <Lizzy> so there is
L296[10:34:45] <Lizzy> cool
L297[10:34:47] <Lizzy> thanks Temia
L298[10:34:56] <alekso56> *u*
L299[10:37:38] <Lizzy> lol my laptop only has 19 tasks and the only one running constantly is htop
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L304[11:07:15] <Noire> Hi all
L305[11:07:25] <sugoi_payonel> o/
L306[11:07:41] <Noire> strange error occured: OC filesystem failed to construct or wrong node, ignoring NBT filesystem data read...
L307[11:07:55] <Noire> does anyone know whats the deal? O_o
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L310[11:11:26] <Noire> what it could be?
L311[11:14:58] <Dashkal> Sorry, never seen that one.
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L315[11:18:25] <sugoi_payonel> Noire: i've never seen this error, and i can't find it in the source
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L318[11:22:37] <alekso56> that moment when you go to youtube to watch a few vids, and you are in the recommended box .-.
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L320[11:24:15] <AntheusPhone> Lunch from school 11:21 AntheusPhone http://i.imgur.com/Gx4B371.jpg
L321[11:25:01] <Vexatos> what are those tiny meals
L322[11:25:21] <Vexatos> over here you get a normal plate full for €1.30 .-.
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L324[11:25:41] <AntheusPhone> $2.45 USD
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L328[11:29:25] <Michiyo> Damn it.. now I'm hungry
L329[11:29:51] <Vexatos> AntheusPhone, poor you
L330[11:31:25] <Dashkal> Has latte
L331[11:31:30] <alekso56> ohhhbooyy, opening up my old youtube account is always glorious http://cax.no/dl
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L333[11:31:37] * Dashkal is now content
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L338[11:55:29] <Mettaton_Fab> sup?
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L340[12:01:41] <sugoi_payonel> o/
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L345[12:18:07] <Sangar> o/
L346[12:19:01] <vifino> \o
L347[12:21:47] <Dashkal> o/
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L349[12:25:03] <sugoi_payonel> \-o-/
L350[12:25:04] <sugoi_payonel> pew pew
L351[12:25:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Useless sock, where have you been the last week? .-.
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L358[12:26:36] <Forecaster> sugoi_payonel: your tie-fighter's got bent wings
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L361[12:27:17] <sugoi_payonel> it's modified for in-atmo flight
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L371[12:32:39] <Lennart> darn, tried using 2 OC gpu's in SLI, didn't improve screen write times, bottleneck for max writes lies with the screen and not the gpu :(
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L387[12:33:48] <^v> Oh noes! portlane split 3:
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L389[12:34:59] <vifino> Lennart: There... is no SLI in OC.
L390[12:35:17] <Lennart> I know, but I bound 2 gpus to the same screen
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L392[12:36:00] <Lennart> to see if alternatingly setting would increase screen update times
L393[12:36:04] <MatthiasM2> is it valid for Environment.node() to return null ?
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L412[12:43:00] <Lennart> different gpu's also don't have seperate load caps, it seems that the tiers of gpu's add 4,2 and 1 to a screen's load respectively (for the set function)
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L429[12:57:09] <Michiyo> https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12801404_10201240052040030_7882974236496190740_n.jpg?oh=bab95eba804b0dc9df8ac80ad4255c65&oe=57667EF8 I have no idea what 90% of this is... but woot more Sake Kit Kat... :p
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L431[12:58:25] <Michiyo> they gave us free stuff, AND a $20 shipping upgrade for free cause of issues with lost packages.
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L433[13:02:42] <lua> connect
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L436[13:04:18] <sugoi_payonel> LUA
L437[13:04:19] <EnderBot2> It's Lua, not LUA. Name, not an acronym
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L440[13:05:26] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, last week? here a couple of times, also finishing the 189 port and such. why? :P
L441[13:05:57] <DeanIsaKitty> I like talking to you. Also I wanted to call you an useless sock :P
L442[13:06:15] <Sangar> how nice of you :P
L443[13:06:34] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm *always* nice to you ;)
L444[13:06:52] * Sangar looks up definition of "nice"
L445[13:07:00] * Sangar scratches head
L446[13:07:03] <Sangar> welp
L447[13:07:10] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty and Sangar, sitti-- Nevermind.
L448[13:07:14] * vifino hides
L449[13:07:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Can I shoot vifino? Please?
L450[13:07:33] <Sangar> with what?
L451[13:07:39] <vifino> A banana!
L452[13:07:40] <DeanIsaKitty> A shotgun
L453[13:07:47] <Sangar> shooting what?
L454[13:07:48] <MatthiasM2> is it valid for Environment.node() to return null ?
L455[13:07:52] <vifino> A banana!
L456[13:08:09] <Sangar> MatthiasM2, pretty sure it is
L457[13:08:14] <MatthiasM2> thanks
L458[13:08:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: I would aim for the head but that's empty, so probably waist area. Hit em where it hurts
L459[13:08:28] <vifino> ...
L460[13:08:40] <Sangar> let me clarify: what kind of ammunition would the shotgun use
L461[13:08:49] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Don't get too insulting, dear.
L462[13:08:50] <DeanIsaKitty> Slugs most likely
L463[13:08:51] <Vexatos> Sangar, it is now™
L464[13:08:59] <Vexatos> ever since an NPE has been caused :P
L465[13:09:14] <Sangar> :X
L466[13:09:54] <MatthiasM2> Vexatos: ?
L467[13:09:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, idea from mallrat208: edible computer chips
L468[13:10:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Please?
L469[13:10:07] <mallrat208> Noo
L470[13:10:09] <Sangar> Vexatos, so, nanomachines?
L471[13:10:27] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, what material are the slugs made of?
L472[13:10:32] <Vexatos> No that's a drink
L473[13:10:34] <Vexatos> I am talking food
L474[13:10:34] <sugoi_payonel> Sangar: did you see the cool PR :) ?
L475[13:10:36] <MatthiasM2> Sangar: lead
L476[13:10:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: seriously? <.<
L477[13:10:47] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, seriously
L478[13:10:52] <vifino> Sangar: Marshmellows.
L479[13:10:54] <Sangar> if what MatthiasM2 said, no :P
L480[13:10:56] <vifino> Marshmellow slugs.
L481[13:10:59] <Sangar> if what vifino said, yes :P
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L483[13:11:19] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar, vifino I hate both of you >.<
L484[13:11:24] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, i saw the pr, yes! will give it a try... maybe today? :3
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L486[13:11:28] <vifino> Marshmellow slugs to shoot a banana with a banana shotgun.
L487[13:11:34] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, the feeling is mutual <3
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L489[13:11:43] <sugoi_payonel> Sangar: coo
L490[13:11:45] <Lizzy> ohai Sangar
L491[13:11:48] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Aww, I know you love me, don't worry :P
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L493[13:11:51] <Sangar> ohai Lizzy
L494[13:11:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Shut up <.<
L495[13:12:10] <sugoi_payonel> also, the prototype for multi-terms and separate process stacks?
L496[13:12:14] * Sangar shuts DeanIsaKitty up
L497[13:12:30] * DeanIsaKitty ruins Sangar's face with some claw strikes
L498[13:12:45] * Sangar takes off face, puts on new one
L499[13:13:03] <sugoi_payonel> the prototype shows how you can have windows and tab between them, a complete shell in each
L500[13:13:12] <vifino> well, that was awkward.
L501[13:13:17] <sugoi_payonel> even if the shell makes coroutines and event pulls and such
L502[13:13:28] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, awesome
L503[13:13:28] <sugoi_payonel> hint: it leverages the pipes lib made for popen :)
L504[13:13:41] <Temia> http://i.imgur.com/z8xfhMu.gifv remember to pet your moo
L505[13:13:44] * Sangar moves yaw, adjusting new face some more
L506[13:13:49] <Sangar> *jaw
L507[13:13:53] * vifino pets Temia
L508[13:13:53] <Sangar> too much rotations recently
L509[13:13:56] <sugoi_payonel> Sangar: it was mainly to show mpmxyz that multi-term is possible with the new term even tho the new term isn't multi-term on its own
L510[13:14:05] * Temia leans into Vifino's arms and tailswishes <3
L511[13:14:40] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, glad to hear it is :) sounds good, more modular
L512[13:16:05] <Lizzy> !flags
L513[13:16:39] <Lizzy> !flags sugoi_payonel +Verv
L514[13:16:39] -zsh- Lizzy set flags +Verv on sugoi.
L515[13:16:39] zsh sets mode: +v on sugoi_payonel
L516[13:16:42] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: Welcome to the cool kids' club <3
L517[13:16:50] <sugoi_payonel> oh.my.gosh
L518[13:16:57] <g> *Mario level up sound*
L519[13:16:58] * DeanIsaKitty hugs sugoi_payonel
L520[13:16:58] <sugoi_payonel> \o/
L521[13:17:03] <Sangar> haha
L522[13:17:10] * Lizzy goes back to stabbing audio servers
L523[13:17:21] <Sangar> congrats, you now have a blue circle!
L524[13:17:30] * sugoi_payonel sees unused points from level-up
L525[13:17:41] <sugoi_payonel> i always keep those for way too long, not committing to some rpg spec
L526[13:17:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Go for intelligence :P
L527[13:17:59] <sugoi_payonel> :)
L528[13:18:14] <Sangar> haha, i'm also a hoarder of upgrade points
L529[13:18:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Or MoreCommitsAndContributions. Thats a real teamplayer though :P
L530[13:18:35] <sugoi_payonel> haha
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L532[13:18:42] <sugoi_payonel> working mostly on ocdoc lately
L533[13:19:05] * Sangar gives sugoi_payonel the whole cookie jar
L534[13:19:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: I should probably have like at least one random commit in OC to justify my existance... <.<
L535[13:19:56] <Sangar> eh, justification is overrated :P but feel free to fix something or adopt one of them tagged issues ;)
L536[13:20:06] <Sangar> (or two, or three, or...)
L537[13:20:29] * Dashkal mutters
L538[13:20:37] <Dashkal> Work is too close to my hobby project. I wanna work on it...
L539[13:20:43] <SkySom> four, thirteen, one hundred
L540[13:20:46] <SkySom> some number
L541[13:21:27] <Sangar> Dashkal, what's the hobby project?
L542[13:22:24] <Dashkal> I haven't given up on my λ calculus OC arch.
L543[13:22:33] <Dashkal> And I've learned some new tricks since my last attempt
L544[13:22:49] <Sangar> ohhh
L545[13:23:24] <Dashkal> Problem is, I'm writing a language in my day job, so too close for comfort.
L546[13:23:53] <Sangar> that's a cool day job :)
L547[13:25:59] <Dashkal> I love it :D
L548[13:26:53] <Sangar> gah, why doesn't intellij's autoupdate work .-. it downloads the patch, then restarts without installing the patch
L549[13:27:02] <Dashkal> Tell me about it.
L550[13:27:22] <Dashkal> That said, I often ignore updates. It's whack-a-mole with idea updates if it'll start choking to death on my code or not. So I stop on versions that don't do that.~
L551[13:27:40] <Kubuxu> We need Scheme architecture.
L552[13:27:43] <Sangar> haha
L553[13:27:52] <Sangar> Kubuxu, make it so
L554[13:28:03] <Dashkal> A Scheme arch would be a cool project. You should pick it up.
L555[13:28:11] <Dashkal> Not even kidding. Someone should definitely do a Lisp.
L556[13:28:46] <sugoi_payonel> that thoundth thupid
L557[13:28:52] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal: Shut up already :<
L558[13:29:42] <Dashkal> Never
L559[13:29:43] <Sangar> oh my, cursor support in the shell?
L560[13:29:50] <Sangar> as in mouse
L561[13:29:53] * Dashkal rubs DeanIsaKitty's fur backwords
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L563[13:29:58] <Sangar> that didn't work before did it?
L564[13:30:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Dashkal, wanna test out how well your arms and my claws mix?
L565[13:30:14] <sugoi_payonel> Sangar: -- i don't remember :) haha
L566[13:30:18] <sugoi_payonel> but thought it should be good
L567[13:30:19] <Dashkal> We already know. You end up with bloddy fur.
L568[13:30:28] <sugoi_payonel> the way i built term this time made that easy
L569[13:30:41] <sugoi_payonel> also, notice the vertical scrolling! :)
L570[13:30:45] * DeanIsaKitty casually scratches Dashkal's right arm
L571[13:30:50] * Dashkal bleeds on DeanIsaKitty
L572[13:31:01] <sugoi_payonel> for gamax's irc client, we need horizontal scroll still, so one can call term.read({nowrap=true})
L573[13:31:08] * DeanIsaKitty rubs bloody fur against Sangar
L574[13:31:12] <Sangar> ohhh
L575[13:31:14] <sugoi_payonel> also, 30k free on tier 1 ram boot
L576[13:31:23] <Sangar> huh. that'll need getting used to :X
L577[13:31:25] <sugoi_payonel> also, wide char support is solid
L578[13:31:28] <Sangar> awesome
L579[13:31:47] <sugoi_payonel> would prefer the old horizontal scroll be default?
L580[13:31:49] * Sangar gets out sponge and soap, eyes DeanIsaKitty
L581[13:31:54] <DeanIsaKitty> 0.0
L582[13:31:58] * DeanIsaKitty runs
L583[13:32:09] <sugoi_payonel> i...would vote for vertical
L584[13:32:12] * sugoi_payonel hides
L585[13:32:26] * DeanIsaKitty jumps on sugoi_payonel's head
L586[13:32:27] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, it's just what i was used to, but i think it's kinda nice this way, too. better overview
L587[13:32:32] * Dashkal regenerates and stops bleeding.
L588[13:32:58] <Dashkal> I wonder what I did to my fonts that _ stopped appearing on this terminal >.>
L589[13:33:02] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, now add ctrl+left/right so i can close #1663 :P
L590[13:33:29] <sugoi_payonel> oh sure - i was thinking about that, didn't realize it had an issue already
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L592[13:33:47] <sugoi_payonel> that should be fine, and i'll lazy load it for ram
L593[13:34:11] <Sangar> it's a new one. and it's by soni, but it's one of the rare reasonable ones :P
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L595[13:34:25] <Mettaton_Fab> sup?
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L597[13:38:02] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, clicking doesn't seem to take vertical scroll into account?
L598[13:38:24] <sugoi_payonel> are you seeing off-by-one type issues with which line it should be on?
L599[13:38:27] <sugoi_payonel> in my tests, that worked
L600[13:38:45] <sugoi_payonel> i can retest and try what you're seeing
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L602[13:41:27] <Sangar> sec
L603[13:42:11] <Forecaster> :O someone got voice!
L604[13:43:00] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, https://www.dropbox.com/s/52znm3sawj3db8l/term.mp4?dl=0
L605[13:43:33] <Sangar> someone did. 'tis a rare thing
L606[13:44:17] <g> https://torrentfreak.com/play-p2p-impossible-shutdown-160301/
L607[13:44:21] <g> this is very cool
L608[13:44:33] <sugoi_payonel> going to start when clicking prompt line, and going to end when clicking past, is by design
L609[13:44:43] <sugoi_payonel> but at the end of the video, do i see it going to end when you clicked above?
L610[13:44:58] <sugoi_payonel> do you want clicks outside the line to be ignored?
L611[13:45:06] <greaser|q> ohai, erm, https://i.imgur.com/fIbIUjk.png
L612[13:45:32] <greaser|q> Sangar: unmanaged drives are just gzipped raw 512-bytes-per-sector LBA, right?
L613[13:45:46] <greaser|q> i'm really hoping they aren't interleaved
L614[13:46:11] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, i basically have to click the line one above to get to the correct x/character
L615[13:46:26] <sugoi_payonel> and that happened when you pushed past the bottom?
L616[13:46:31] <sugoi_payonel> ok, i'll retest that area
L617[13:46:42] <Sangar> that's a soon as the input spans two lines, yeah
L618[13:46:57] <sugoi_payonel> yep yep okay
L619[13:47:02] <sugoi_payonel> i know the area to review
L620[13:47:06] <Sangar> greaser|q, iirc they are
L621[13:47:15] <Sangar> also ermgurd
L622[13:47:15] <sugoi_payonel> Sangar, best PR tester in the multiverse
L623[13:47:28] <Sangar> i try :P
L624[13:47:33] <greaser|q> sweet... i suspect the kernel's not picking up that yes, this is the fucking root directory, stop thinking we have a ramfs
L625[13:47:59] <sugoi_payonel> Sangar: your call -- we could fix mouse scroll placement along with ctrl+movement
L626[13:48:18] <sugoi_payonel> mouse cursor-clicks, is what i mean. this issue
L627[13:48:49] <Sangar> greaser|q, yeah, just a default GZIPOutputStream the byte array gets dumped into
L628[13:49:16] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, sure, no need to make an extra pr
L629[13:49:38] <Sangar> or i can just merge that one and you can make a new one with the fixes, whichever you prefer
L630[13:50:29] <sugoi_payonel> if the current PR is good, i say take it. i'm starting on ctrl_movement now, i'll throw in the mouse-cursor-click fix with it
L631[13:50:40] <sugoi_payonel> also, i've signed an offer
L632[13:50:56] <sugoi_payonel> it's actually a promotion over my old level
L633[13:51:04] <Sangar> okidoke. yeah, aside from that i found no issues. by just messing around a bit anyway :P
L634[13:51:06] <sugoi_payonel> so this whole 10% layoff thing may actually turn out to be awesome
L635[13:51:18] <Sangar> oh?
L636[13:51:22] <Sangar> got a job?
L637[13:51:37] <sugoi_payonel> yeah, they're checking with references today and tomorrow, i'd start in 3 weeks
L638[13:51:39] <sugoi_payonel> but yep
L639[13:52:16] <Sangar> sounds like you're looking forward to it ;) can you say where/what?
L640[13:55:23] <sugoi_payonel> i am looking forward to it. i'll be working with video transcoding with huge concurrent access and such
L641[13:55:55] <Sangar> wow, that's a quite the change :D
L642[13:56:22] <sugoi_payonel> on some level, not a lot. it's always been my area to optimize and make stuff more concurrent
L643[13:57:28] <Sangar> ahh, i see. well cool. looking forward to your contributions in the still relatively new field of livestreaming to oc ;)
L644[13:57:35] <sugoi_payonel> hahaha
L645[13:57:37] <sugoi_payonel> :)
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L647[14:00:25] <Mettaton_Fab> sup?
L648[14:00:39] <sugoi_payonel> Mettaton_Fab: hello
L649[14:00:53] <Sangar> let's see if the computer survives longer this time :X
L650[14:00:54] <Mettaton_Fab> Oh yes
L651[14:01:21] <Sangar> welcome welcome
L652[14:01:33] <Mettaton_Fab> stop the time to see the magic
L653[14:02:12] <Mettaton_Fab> what does the new update include?
L654[14:03:34] <sugoi_payonel> mouse-click movement fixed
L655[14:05:18] <Sangar> weee
L656[14:05:26] <Sangar> Mettaton_Fab, which update of what?
L657[14:07:08] <Stary2001> greaser|q: magic.
L658[14:07:34] <Vexatos> Sangar, properly updating server racks when
L659[14:08:05] <Sangar> Vexatos, looking into it. trying to figure out why it works in 17 but not in 18
L660[14:08:10] <Vexatos> btw snagar http://git.io/v261o
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L663[14:11:06] <Sangar> the swarm is a beehousing? ^.-
L664[14:11:11] <greaser|q> when you say properly updating do you mean that when you yank out the one stick of ram in it when it's running it doesn't notice and therefore it won't crash on you and therefore you can't debug it?
L665[14:12:11] <Alissa> ^-^ https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kAzPkW62/Icon
L666[14:12:16] <Alissa> made a working IRCCloud icon thinger
L667[14:12:34] <Sangar> greaser|q, no, in 18 they currently don't re-render when removing/adding mountables
L668[14:12:40] <Vexatos> Sangar, way3gud
L669[14:12:44] <greaser|q> ah righty
L670[14:12:50] *** Mine|dreamland is now known as minecreatr
L671[14:13:31] <greaser|q> with ocmips it's important that when you yank out enough RAM the system crashes, it's so you can work out where something has frozen
L672[14:13:53] <greaser|q> although it's no way near as good as a proper kernel panic... provided it doesn't spam the shit out of the console
L673[14:14:16] <Sangar> mhm. there is the recomputeMemory thing, right? could force a crash from that i think?
L674[14:14:50] <vifino> /forcecrash allthings
L675[14:15:37] * Alissa forcecrashes vifino
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L677[14:16:00] * vifino brutally murders Alissa
L678[14:16:03] <greaser|q> that's what i do, it works fine with regular comps but not servers
L679[14:16:06] <Alissa> kinky
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L681[14:20:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Also my dad's learning programming (with VB) and its so incredible cute ^^
L682[14:21:31] <Sangar> greaser|q, i see. hrmm. open an issue?
L683[14:21:38] <Alissa> My dad can't fizzbuzz in any language yet he still claims that he's a "developer" for HP
L684[14:21:45] <Alissa> and even put it on LinkedIn >_>
L685[14:22:16] <gamax92> congrats sugoi_payonel, you've been promoted
L686[14:22:23] <Alissa> He even has the manuals for all the software he's supposed to use /unopened/ in a box in his room
L687[14:22:25] <sugoi_payonel> in irl AND in oc :)
L688[14:23:20] <Sangar> haha
L689[14:23:47] <gamax92> and Dean has claws
L690[14:23:51] <sugoi_payonel> ok for ctrl movement
L691[14:23:55] <CompanionCube> actual kernel panic when?
L692[14:23:58] <sugoi_payonel> what really constitutes a "Word" ?
L693[14:24:16] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: I'm sure there's source code that defines this irl
L694[14:24:17] <Forecaster> anything not separated by a whitespace
L695[14:24:20] <sugoi_payonel> is it only [a-zA-Z0-9_] ? or .. anything not whitespace?
L696[14:24:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Anything not whitespace
L697[14:24:33] <greaser|q> Sangar: opened https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1678
L698[14:24:39] <Sangar> greaser|q, thanks
L699[14:24:40] <sugoi_payonel> so ... consider
L700[14:24:46] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: We have unicode support, so ... yeah
L701[14:24:47] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: also what is this ctrl movement you're referring to?
L702[14:24:57] <sugoi_payonel> %>cmd args -foo +1 --bar=100
L703[14:25:11] <sugoi_payonel> we'd consider -foo a word? and --bar=100 a word?
L704[14:25:20] <Forecaster> yes
L705[14:25:20] <sugoi_payonel> and +1? so whitespace is the only delim?
L706[14:25:21] <Sangar> gamax92, word-wise jumping
L707[14:25:38] <sugoi_payonel> k, just checking with y'all
L708[14:25:40] <gamax92> It doesn't work for me :|
L709[14:25:55] <sugoi_payonel> gamax92: how so?
L710[14:26:02] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: No, linux shell consider -_=+ etc "whitespace"
L711[14:26:11] <gamax92> It just puts ";5C;5D"
L712[14:26:40] <sugoi_payonel> DeanIsaKitty: yeah that's what i was wondering about, i never use word jumping (i should!)
L713[14:26:45] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, testing in a few editors, a common denominator seems to be "stop at a change from alphanumeric to anything else; also stop at change from anything to whitespace"
L714[14:26:45] <gamax92> and ctrl-shift puts ";6C;6D"
L715[14:26:49] <sugoi_payonel> DeanIsaKitty: is there a complete list i could ref?
L716[14:26:59] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: I'll have a look :)
L717[14:27:18] <Forecaster> I prefer just whitespaces
L718[14:27:21] <sugoi_payonel> ok but i'll make this solution scalable in case we find more delim types/rules
L719[14:27:44] <sugoi_payonel> Forecaster: while i hear you, my purpose in linux-as-possible-or-reasonable
L720[14:27:48] <gamax92> not working in xterm either ...
L721[14:27:51] <sugoi_payonel> is*, not in
L722[14:27:56] <Forecaster> why?
L723[14:28:00] <MatthiasM2> is there an "IDE" for Lua which has auto completion or something like that (in OC or externally) ?
L724[14:28:06] <sugoi_payonel> gamax92: ctrl movement is more an ide thing, in bash there is a different hot key for it
L725[14:28:12] <gamax92> well, it doesn't put the ;5C and ;5D on the linux terminal, but it just moves one character
L726[14:28:49] <sugoi_payonel> gamax92: try alt+b or alt+f
L727[14:29:09] <gamax92> alt-b works, alt-f triggers my menu
L728[14:29:12] <greaser|q> S=2, A=3, A+S=4, C=5, C+S=6, C+A=7, C+A+S=8
L729[14:29:25] <greaser|q> ^ that's the convention
L730[14:29:28] <greaser|q> at least afaik
L731[14:29:38] <gamax92> alt-b and alt-f put weird characters in xterm
L732[14:29:59] <gamax92> works in linux terminal though
L733[14:30:15] <sugoi_payonel> gamax92: so soni asked for ctrl+arrow_key to do word jumps
L734[14:30:20] <gamax92> oh, Soni
L735[14:30:27] <sugoi_payonel> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1663
L736[14:31:47] <greaser|q> good proposal but if he decides to be an obnoxious prick about it consider implementing a vi mode instead
L737[14:31:54] <gamax92> please no
L738[14:31:56] <greaser|q> otherwise, go ahead
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L740[14:34:33] <sugoi_payonel> hmm, : is an illegal char in windows filesystem
L741[14:34:46] <sugoi_payonel> can someone with openos 1.6, on a non-windows fs, test something for me? :)
L742[14:35:06] <CompanionCube> vi mode is overrated
L743[14:35:18] <vifino> CompanionCube: get out.
L744[14:35:29] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: The readline library (bash shell) uses isalnum() from ctype.h. That function depends on the set locale. I think the most reasonable choice would be to act as if the C locale was set. Want specific characters?
L745[14:35:47] <Sangar> sugoi_payonel, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/scala/li/cil/oc/server/fs/FileSystem.scala#L185-L190
L746[14:35:49] <CompanionCube> vifino, nope
L747[14:36:04] <Sangar> so in oc : is among other things illegal on all oses :P
L748[14:36:10] <sugoi_payonel> Sangar: ok
L749[14:36:34] <sugoi_payonel> DeanIsaKitty: good find, thanks
L750[14:36:51] <DeanIsaKitty> Alternatively of course use en_US.utf8, especially since OpenOS does kinda sorta support Unicode. :P
L751[14:36:55] <sugoi_payonel> Forecaster: why linux-like shell?
L752[14:37:00] <Sangar> it was the most sane solution to keep things uniform regardless of host os iirc
L753[14:37:45] <DeanIsaKitty> MatthiasM2: Yes, an eclipse based one and one seperate project. But you would probably have to write some if not all the completion sources yourself.
L754[14:37:48] <sugoi_payonel> DeanIsaKitty: "sorta" :) yes, sorta. but, just psa - most of the time spent on the new term was to nail down widechar support
L755[14:37:58] <Forecaster> sugoi_payonel: yeah
L756[14:38:36] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: Want me to get a whole chart of what Bash would consider a word breaking char on en_US.utf8?
L757[14:38:41] <Magik6k> Haven't been there for a while, mostly due to porting oc to real life, and it looks like greaser|q is now porting real life to oc :D
L758[14:38:49] <Magik6k> Also, o/
L759[14:38:52] <greaser|q> sup
L760[14:38:54] <DeanIsaKitty> Magik6k: Sounds about right :P
L761[14:38:58] <sugoi_payonel> Forecaster: because that is the best comparison to work from. we do some things Lua or OpenOS like at times, and choose on purpose to not follow POSIX or linux-stuff
L762[14:39:06] <sugoi_payonel> Magik6k: o/
L763[14:39:24] <Forecaster> sugoi_payonel: what are you doing anyway? :P
L764[14:39:25] <sugoi_payonel> DeanIsaKitty: if you find one, that'd be awesome
L765[14:39:32] <sugoi_payonel> Forecaster: OpenOS
L766[14:39:37] <Sangar> ohai Magik6k!
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L768[14:40:40] <Forecaster> It always annoys me when it stops in the middle of a word instead of at the next whitespace
L769[14:40:43] <greaser|q> i'm tempted to give a presentation, probably to the internet by means of dumping a video on youtube, although i haven't applied my master plan yet
L770[14:40:48] <Forecaster> whenever I word-jump
L771[14:41:44] <Sangar> greaser|q, is it running java in the mips arch? :3
L772[14:41:45] <sugoi_payonel> Forecaster: specific to your comment, what is "it"
L773[14:41:58] <greaser|q> Sangar: it involves that ;)
L774[14:42:02] <Sangar> :O
L775[14:42:03] <Forecaster> anything that has world jumping...
L776[14:42:10] <greaser|q> it'll be fucking hard to pull off though
L777[14:42:19] <greaser|q> tempted to run swap over nfs
L778[14:42:25] <Sangar> i believe in you
L779[14:42:39] <gamax92> greaser|q: but why not nbd?
L780[14:42:46] <greaser|q> not heard of nbd
L781[14:42:50] <sugoi_payonel> Forecaster: give a specific example that i may consider a "bad" jump and consider your feedback better
L782[14:42:51] <gamax92> network block device
L783[14:43:10] <Magik6k> ^ it even has swap mode
L784[14:43:16] <greaser|q> that's probably a better option
L785[14:43:43] <gamax92> there are servers for practically anything now, windows, linux, osx, java, and I think I've seen a python one too :P
L786[14:44:14] <gamax92> nbd client needs kernel support though, obviously
L787[14:44:36] <greaser|q> not looked at the code but if it's just any old block device it'll work
L788[14:44:48] <Stary2001> network block device
L789[14:44:48] <Stary2001> so
L790[14:44:49] <Stary2001> ye
L791[14:44:50] <Stary2001> s
L792[14:44:50] <gamax92> you can swap over nbd, works fine
L793[14:44:50] <Stary2001> \:D/
L794[14:44:52] <greaser|q> although i do need to chuck the network layer back in
L795[14:45:54] <MatthiasM2> :(
L796[14:45:59] <Magik6k> btw, does anyone know of multiplatform GUI lib for text rendering(or with direct surface access) working in windowed mode and compiling on musl(preferable not on GPL)?
L797[14:46:15] <Magik6k> and no, SDL 1.2 doesn't work on musl
L798[14:46:20] <MatthiasM2> in Java?
L799[14:46:25] <Magik6k> In C
L800[14:46:36] <MatthiasM2> no - I only wrote one in Java (BSD license)
L801[14:47:00] <Magik6k> I'm not too keen on static linking JVM into lupi
L802[14:47:24] <gamax92> :P
L803[14:47:26] <MatthiasM2> it's also targeted at using OpenGL / game usage
L804[14:48:05] <greaser|q> what issues are you getting when compiling SDL with musl?
L805[14:48:07] <Kubuxu> It is funny because we can make 1:1 mapping UUID to IPv6 link-local
L806[14:48:10] <greaser|q> also does SDL 2 work?
L807[14:48:38] <gamax92> Magik6k: you should do SDL2 for stealing all of your rendering code and putting it in ocemu's sake
L808[14:49:01] <Magik6k> hmm, may work
L809[14:49:19] <Magik6k> at least if it will compile with musl
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L811[14:51:54] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: I've found the unicode values&ranges that are considered alphanum. Its a few many though :P
L812[14:51:55] <gamax92> Magik6k: I'm pretty sure SDL2 works fine with musl but may crap out if you start doing opengl things with glibc based drivers
L813[14:52:19] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: there's a custom utf8 library for lua that had support for things like that
L814[14:52:30] <Magik6k> Oh, yeah that was my issue with that
L815[14:52:51] <gamax92> Magik6k: but software mode is a thing too
L816[14:53:49] <Magik6k> So if it won't be able to dlopen libGL it won't crash and do fallback instead?
L817[14:53:59] <Kubuxu> or not
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L819[14:59:00] <gamax92> Magik6k: oh, I don't know about that
L820[14:59:12] <gamax92> I just know SDL has a Software Mode
L821[14:59:47] <gamax92> #lua string.format("%02X", 0xAA+11)
L822[14:59:47] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > B5
L823[15:00:07] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: https://github.com/starwing/luautf8/blob/master/unidata.h
L824[15:00:07] <Kubuxu> If UUID had one letter less we could fit it into IPv6 link-local. :|
L825[15:00:17] <greaser|q> on a raspi you DEFINITELY want software mode
L826[15:00:30] <gamax92> Kubuxu: you might be in luck then, how many bits do you need
L827[15:00:49] <greaser|q> texture format you want is SDL_PIXELFORMAT_RGB565
L828[15:01:01] <Kubuxu> I need UUID to have 118 bits, normal Version 4 UUID has 122
L829[15:01:09] <gamax92> ahh
L830[15:01:19] <greaser|q> chop a letter off anyway
L831[15:01:34] <gamax92> so you already did the removal of the 4 and the 8-9-a-b :P
L832[15:01:44] <Kubuxu> Solution would be to make networking ignore last letter.
L833[15:01:50] <Kubuxu> the simplest solution
L834[15:04:41] <Sangar> greaser|q, re memory crashing: recomputeMemory appears to get called correctly even in servers; to clarify, removing ram doesn't automatically crash a machine. if a lua computer does crash, that's most likely because that lowers the ram to below what's used. what i meant earlier is that you can just make the machine crash in your arch's recomputeMemory (via machine.crash())
L835[15:05:00] <gamax92> machine.crash is a thing :P
L836[15:05:05] <Sangar> it is :P
L837[15:06:01] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/lP10Qny.jpg
L838[15:06:34] <greaser|q> Sangar: i still don't see the recomputeMemory method being called... then again i have an older dev ver
L839[15:06:52] <Sangar> hmhm, maybe i accidentally fixed it right now by fixing the rendering :X
L840[15:07:11] <Sangar> (was a missing markDirty, so it's possible)
L841[15:07:19] <Sangar> grab latest and try that please
L842[15:07:26] <Sangar> (also to make sure, 1.8.9?)
L843[15:07:29] <greaser|q> 1.7.10
L844[15:07:31] <greaser|q> 1.6 i think
L845[15:07:32] <Sangar> oh!
L846[15:07:41] <Sangar> lemme test
L847[15:08:31] <Magik6k> WTF, why sdl build system includes system include insteead compiller ones? https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/1456866491.png
L848[15:08:53] <Sangar> hmm, also works in 1.7 for me. try updating anyway then, please :P
L849[15:11:40] <greaser|q> i'll do that once i finally get this shit to behave or give up, whatever happens
L850[15:12:18] <Sangar> never give up! never surrender!
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L854[15:15:28] <Sangar> oh yeah, Vexatos, rendering fixed
L855[15:15:37] <Vexatos> yays .-.
L856[15:16:05] <Sangar> also if you didn't see, fixed requiring atlas texture
L857[15:16:17] <Vexatos> Sangar, JustEnoughMarkDirty()
L858[15:16:26] <Sangar> NeverEnoughMarkDirty()
L859[15:16:39] <Sangar> i blame 18's threaded rendering :P
L860[15:16:41] <alekso56> lewd
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L863[15:26:46] <sugoi_payonel> DeanIsaKitty: i'm going to simplify then. i'll just create a lookup that we can append to later if we so choose. but whitespace and a few common cli chars is a good start
L864[15:27:02] <sugoi_payonel> like whitespace, +=-
L865[15:27:15] <sugoi_payonel> and quotes
L866[15:29:22] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi_payonel: From the file gamax sent: https://github.com/starwing/luautf8/blob/master/unidata.h#L897-L905
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L868[15:30:14] <gamax92> it's start, stop, and steps
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L871[15:31:30] <gamax92> so (0x9, 0xD, 1) -> 9 A B C D, but (0xA0, 0x1680, 5600) is obviously just 0xA0 and 0x1680, nothing in between :P
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L873[15:34:59] <greaser|q> ok fuck FAT i'm going with ext2 again
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L875[15:35:45] <gamax92> greaser|q: :P why?
L876[15:35:56] <greaser|q> it completely and utterly refuses to work
L877[15:36:13] <greaser|q> either it mounts and cannot find a fucking thing at all, or it doesn't mount because i've given it flags to work around its bullshit
L878[15:36:24] <greaser|q> and apparently it's strongly discourage to run linux on fat
L879[15:37:11] <gamax92> I'm not sure why that's an apparently to you, it has no permissions support, and is case insensitive
L880[15:37:29] <greaser|q> it should theoretically be possible to still run things off it
L881[15:37:54] <DeanIsaKitty> "Possible" and "a good idea" are not the same.
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L883[15:40:39] <Kasen> indeed, so you'd imagine it should at least boot
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L886[15:42:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Kasen: But if you have to write a virtual fs might as well write a proper one
L887[15:42:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Nachtara: Sup?
L888[15:43:05] <Nachtara> hi
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L890[15:43:21] <Kasen> sure, but at the same time, if there's a simple option, might be worth getting that going first
L891[15:49:15] <Antheus> .-.
L892[15:52:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh yeah, because I do it all the time; UPDATE YOUR OPENSSL. Its only small things like a double free (aka remote code execution) [Severity low], memory leaks (aka remote code execution)[Severity low], heap corruption, some side channel attacks and oh yeah, you all have SSL2 disabled since ages, don't you? DON'T YOU?? If not, here https://drownattack.com/
L893[15:54:04] <g> I'm assuming that the qualys ssl test already detects these things
L894[15:54:33] <greaser|q> i have a virtual block device with an actual fs
L895[15:54:40] <DeanIsaKitty> g: If you still use SSLv2 you kinda deserve all the shit that comes your way.
L896[15:54:45] <g> I don't think I do
L897[15:54:51] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: claws
L898[15:54:59] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: What?
L899[15:55:18] <g> I got an A on the ssllabs test not long ago, so I'd say I'm doing well but hey, checking anyway
L900[15:55:51] <g> oh, that's right, I had to set up nginx again, so I probably didn't.. yeah, okay
L901[15:55:52] <g> xD
L902[15:55:52] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: sometimes claws can feel good, the sharp sensation that makes you feel awake
L903[15:55:58] * g fixes
L904[15:56:10] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Yes .-.
L905[15:56:49] <vifino> That moment when a build that used to take 7 minutes takes an hour.
L906[15:57:02] <greaser|q> btw that link is safe to click on but seriously what the fuck openssl
L907[15:57:25] <DeanIsaKitty> greaser|q: ?
L908[15:57:44] <greaser|q> is openssl 1.0.1e-2+deb7u19 safe
L909[15:57:50] <greaser|q> wait my bad it's u20
L910[15:59:22] <gamax92> oh looky, an libssl update
L911[15:59:37] <greaser|q> Edit openssl/Pkgfile
L912[15:59:37] <greaser|q> Finished successfully
L913[15:59:38] <DeanIsaKitty> greaser|q: No, unless Debian backportet the 1.0.1s fixes to 1.0.1e
L914[15:59:51] <greaser|q> they backport shit to 1.0.1e, it's debian we're talking about
L915[16:00:25] <DeanIsaKitty> greaser|q: Exactly. RedHat backports all the shit, Debian usually just updates in-branch (1.0.1e -> 1.0.1s)
L916[16:01:27] <greaser|q> this is making me quite glad i didn't install debian here
L917[16:01:33] <greaser|q> and kinda shit that i have debian on my vps
L918[16:01:59] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: are their any tests sites for clients? that one seems like I have to throw a server address at it
L919[16:02:00] <DeanIsaKitty> greaser|q: I don't quite see why OpenSSL is to blame here?
L920[16:02:10] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: There is a downloadable
L921[16:02:16] <gamax92> oh alright
L922[16:02:20] <greaser|q> in that regard, it's debian's fault for providing indecipherable versions
L923[16:03:03] <greaser|q> upgraded to 1.0.2g here, woop woop
L924[16:03:19] <DeanIsaKitty> greaser|q: What? OpenSSL 1.0.1e - packaged for debian 7 - update 19?
L925[16:03:22] <greaser|q> CRUX > debian
L926[16:03:39] <greaser|q> DeanIsaKitty: apt-get update; apt-get install openssl
L927[16:04:47] <gamax92> isn't that just the openssl binary and not the library itself
L928[16:04:50] <g> DeanIsaKitty: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/March/firefox_2016-03-01_22-04-47.png
L929[16:04:51] <g> Yaaay?
L930[16:04:52] <DeanIsaKitty> greaser|q: That's how you update openssl on apt-based distros. You can also use apt-get upgrade btw :)
L931[16:05:14] <g> What result do you get?
L932[16:05:38] <DeanIsaKitty> I don't give a single fuck?
L933[16:06:15] <g> Huh? Well, okay then
L934[16:06:48] <g> ah, you're using a self-signed cert anyway
L935[16:08:08] <gamax92> no sslv2 and sslv3, just the tls stuff, that's good right?
L936[16:08:21] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: Yes, but make sure TLSv1.0 is dead too
L937[16:08:38] <gamax92> :c
L938[16:08:52] <gamax92> it says "TLS 1.0 - Yes"
L939[16:09:11] <Stary2001> I got a....B
L940[16:09:13] <Kasen> is TLS 1.0 completely broken, or just old?
L941[16:09:14] <g> if you don't get an A, it's not good enough :P
L942[16:09:24] <Stary2001> why did i get a B
L943[16:09:30] <g> Read it?
L944[16:09:32] <DeanIsaKitty> g: I get a C :P
L945[16:09:33] <Stary2001> i swear i did some stuff and got it to an A last time
L946[16:09:37] <Stary2001> it's still processing lol
L947[16:09:39] <greaser|q> i'm neck deep in C
L948[16:09:41] <Stary2001> ipv4 and ipv6
L949[16:09:44] <g> DeanIsaKitty: you're using self-signed certs though aren't you? :P
L950[16:09:44] <Stary2001> ...
L951[16:09:44] <DeanIsaKitty> And SSLLabs has trust issues :P
L952[16:09:47] <Stary2001> lmao greaser|q
L953[16:09:55] <Kasen> i have a B because weak DH shit
L954[16:10:03] <Kasen> because apache and lazy
L955[16:10:07] <g> yeah, you're supposed to generate a dhparams.pem
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L957[16:10:22] <Stary2001> "This server supports weak Diffie-Hellman (DH) key exchange parameters. Grade capped to B"
L958[16:10:23] <Stary2001> ahhhhh
L959[16:10:35] <Kasen> i only have it for derpy.ultros.io anyway, g :P
L960[16:10:35] <g> openssl dhparam -out dhparams.pem 2048
L961[16:10:41] <g> Kasen: ah, lol
L962[16:11:30] <Kasen> clicked on the link about weak DH stuff for more info
L963[16:11:44] <Kasen> "This site is using an outdated encryption method which is no longer classified as secure."
L964[16:11:47] <greaser|q> Mount options for ramfs: Ramfs is a memory based filesystem. Mount it and you have it. Unmount it and it is gone. Present since Linux 2.3.99pre4. There are no mount options.
L965[16:11:50] <Kasen> gg
L966[16:11:59] <greaser|q> i love documentation that does that kind of shit
L967[16:12:06] <DeanIsaKitty> hm. Gitlab has some shitty defaults though :D
L968[16:12:07] <Stary2001> hahahahaa
L969[16:12:12] <Lizzy> whats this ssl checker thing everyone is using?
L970[16:12:19] <Kasen> ssl labs
L971[16:12:27] <Stary2001> "This is going to take a long time"
L972[16:12:28] <Stary2001> is it?
L973[16:12:33] <greaser|q> R3000.pdf is also quite pleasant to read
L974[16:12:44] <Stary2001> ok, its not lying
L975[16:12:46] <gamax92> greaser|q: and hundred of pages
L976[16:12:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Its a website that claims to check "security" and "exploits" on your HTTPS servers and then tells you how bad you are.
L977[16:12:56] <greaser|q> gamax92: 300 i think
L978[16:13:04] <Stary2001> s/claims to check/checks
L979[16:13:04] <MichiBot> <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Its a website that checks "security" and "exploits" on your HTTPS servers and then tells you how bad you are.
L980[16:13:04] <gamax92> about
L981[16:13:06] <greaser|q> it's not the 80386 manual ;)
L982[16:13:11] <Kasen> DeanIsaKitty, claims? i'd say it follows through on what it claims
L983[16:13:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: No, it doesn't.
L984[16:13:12] <Stary2001> s/\"//g
L985[16:13:24] <Stary2001> DeanIsaKitty: ...it checks if you have vulnerable ssl ciphers?
L986[16:13:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, not even that well.
L987[16:13:46] <greaser|q> i stumbled across an edited version of "they're going to take me away" OSLT not very deep into the linux kernel source
L988[16:14:06] <Kasen> i like how DeanIsaKitty is the one claiming the site isn't good enough, yet is the one using a self-signed cert anyway
L989[16:14:32] <Stary2001> lel
L990[16:14:36] <DeanIsaKitty> Kasen: I like how you assume that a self-signed cert means insecure and thus prove that you have absolutely no fucking clue :D
L991[16:14:49] <Stary2001> DeanIsaKitty: well, if i replace your self-signed cert with my self-signed cert...
L992[16:14:49] <Kasen> it means insecure if i visit it
L993[16:15:09] <Lizzy> hmm
L994[16:15:10] <Stary2001> nobody can tell the different
L995[16:15:12] <Stary2001> nobody can tell the difference even
L996[16:15:15] <Lizzy> oc.cil.li got a B
L997[16:15:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: Then everybody I care about gonna kick your ass because they all have my well structured CA included ;)
L998[16:15:17] <Kasen> i mean, if you're checking the cert, then sure, it's secure for you
L999[16:15:26] <Stary2001> yeah lmao
L1000[16:15:27] <Kasen> but i certainly don't have that in my cert store
L1001[16:15:32] <Stary2001> DeanIsaKitty: and I can't recreate a CA structure?
L1002[16:15:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Kasen: I don't care about you
L1003[16:15:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: Sure, you can. Have fun breaking it :P
L1004[16:15:52] <Stary2001> nobody said I had to break it
L1005[16:15:55] <Lizzy> hmm
L1006[16:15:57] <vifino> Rude, I don't have that CA, DeanIsaKitty :(
L1007[16:16:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: But you kinda have to
L1008[16:16:07] <Lizzy> my nginx has tls1.0 enabled.... lets go turn that off
L1009[16:16:09] <Stary2001> I just have to make my CA look like yours, unless you check the fingerprints..
L1010[16:16:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: Have fun :D
L1011[16:16:26] <Stary2001> unless you want to have your own ca distributed to everyone that uses your stuff
L1012[16:16:29] <Stary2001> which is
L1013[16:16:31] <Stary2001> a p a i n
L1014[16:17:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: Oh, while you're at it. Break http://pki.paranoidlabs.org/plabs_central_ca.crt.sig while you're at it. The Key FP is 3F29 7AF1 E725 3031 1127 8C5F E9B5 049B 2974 C68A
L1015[16:17:18] <Kasen> Stary2001, sounds fun - giving an individual the ability to issue certs for any domain
L1016[16:17:26] <Stary2001> ikr :D
L1017[16:17:30] <Stary2001> ..
L1018[16:17:37] <Stary2001> DeanIsaKitty: i never said i was going to break the crypto
L1019[16:17:46] <Stary2001> the weakest link is always the human
L1020[16:17:46] <Kasen> on a serious note, i really wish you could lock CAs to domains
L1021[16:17:52] <Stary2001> you probably can
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L1023[16:17:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: But you have to. And people that use my stuff check signatures.
L1024[16:18:23] <Stary2001> okay sure
L1025[16:18:28] <Stary2001> then one of them goes "huh ok" *click*
L1026[16:18:35] <g> I think the point of ssllabs is for public-facing things
L1027[16:18:39] <Stary2001> that too
L1028[16:18:39] <Kasen> ^
L1029[16:18:46] <Stary2001> "overall rating: a"
L1030[16:18:48] * Stary2001 dances
L1031[16:18:49] <g> it's not going to apply much if you're just giving a ca cert to a few friends
L1032[16:19:04] <g> in that case, yeah, you can disregard much of it :P
L1033[16:19:18] <Kasen> Stary2001, you can't afaik - it's a pretty big issue
L1034[16:19:27] <Stary2001> huh
L1035[16:19:32] <Stary2001> yeah
L1036[16:19:42] <Stary2001> ik there's constraints for how big your chain can be
L1037[16:19:50] <Stary2001> but thats about it
L1038[16:19:56] <Kasen> it's why you end up with shit like foreign governments issuing fake google certs
L1039[16:19:59] <Stary2001> yeahh
L1040[16:21:37] <g> google are probably working on something
L1041[16:21:42] <g> it'd be the kind of thing they'd look into
L1042[16:21:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Yes. Its called certificate pinning.
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L1044[16:21:55] <g> ah right, yeah, I forgot about that
L1045[16:22:03] <g> I wonder if letsencrypt supports that yet
L1046[16:22:51] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Nothing to do with CAs. The browsers do the pinning.
L1047[16:22:58] * Stary2001 boggles
L1048[16:23:04] <Stary2001> stuff like hsts?
L1049[16:23:07] <g> Yeah, but if letsencrypt just makes a new key every time then it's not going to help much
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L1051[16:23:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Stary2001: I'm just call you stupid from now on, ok?
L1052[16:23:41] <Stary2001> sure do that
L1053[16:23:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Cool
L1054[16:24:00] <Stary2001> i'll just call you embodiment of tinfoil hat
L1055[16:24:15] <gamax92> ooh, potential ljx fix for that scope issue
L1056[16:24:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Sure, do that
L1057[16:24:19] <Stary2001> lel
L1058[16:24:33] * Dashkal takes out a water spray bottle
L1059[16:24:34] <Kasen> g, i think you can use the same key - not sure, i saw a bunch of discussion on the forum about it, but didn't read much into it
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L1061[16:25:11] <DeanIsaKitty> g: The API doesn't care. You might need to modify their shitty client though
L1062[16:25:11] <g> "Since this advice has not been tested, only try this on domains you don't care about, and are willing to see permanently broken."
L1063[16:25:17] <g> think I'll leave it for a bit :P
L1064[16:25:34] <g> DeanIsaKitty, I think acme_tiny does it properly but I'd rather the official client supports it at some point
L1065[16:25:59] <greaser|q> fs/jbd2/checkpoint.c: "JBD2: %s: Waiting for Godot: block %llu\n"
L1066[16:26:25] <sugoi_payonel> gamax92: i was distracted with other things when you explained more about the range_table space_table
L1067[16:26:29] <gamax92> fixed
L1068[16:26:29] <sugoi_payonel> can we talk more about that
L1069[16:26:37] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: ?
L1070[16:26:45] <DeanIsaKitty> g: Why? Let's encrypt is just another ACME CA impl.
L1071[16:26:46] <sugoi_payonel> what are those 3 values for?
L1072[16:26:57] <sugoi_payonel> first two look like char codes
L1073[16:26:59] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: imagine it like for loop parameters.
L1074[16:27:09] <sugoi_payonel> k, makes sense
L1075[16:27:11] <sugoi_payonel> but that 3rd?
L1076[16:27:14] <g> DeanIsaKitty: Yeah, true, but I don't trust myself to not break things right now
L1077[16:27:19] <gamax92> same as the third in a for loop
L1078[16:27:27] <DeanIsaKitty> g: THen go forth and break stuff.
L1079[16:27:40] <g> and lack of pinning isn't a problem for stuff like ultros atm anyway, the worst you're going to submit is an exception traceback
L1080[16:27:49] <gamax92> #lua for i=0xA, 0xD, 1 do print(string.format("0x%02x", i)) end
L1081[16:27:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0x0a | 0x0b | 0x0c | 0x0d | nil
L1082[16:28:12] <sugoi_payonel> sure, but what's that last char? like on line 900, 5600?
L1083[16:28:13] <gamax92> #lua for i=0xE4D, 0xE81, 52 do print(string.format("0x%02x", i)) end
L1084[16:28:13] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0xe4d | 0xe81 | nil
L1085[16:28:57] <gamax92> #lua for i=0xA0, 0x1680, 5600 do print(string.format("0x%02x", i)) end
L1086[16:28:57] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0xa0 | 0x1680 | nil
L1087[16:29:05] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: you do see what I'm saying right?
L1088[16:29:20] <sugoi_payonel> oh
L1089[16:29:23] <gamax92> steps?
L1090[16:29:26] <sugoi_payonel> steps
L1091[16:29:31] <sugoi_payonel> intereting
L1092[16:29:33] <sugoi_payonel> :)
L1093[16:29:35] <sugoi_payonel> ok
L1094[16:29:47] <sugoi_payonel> heh, literally, args for the for loop
L1095[16:29:48] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L1096[16:29:51] <sugoi_payonel> i feel like you just said that
L1097[16:29:52] <sugoi_payonel> :)
L1098[16:30:32] <gamax92> that file is slightly outdated, unicode 7 and not 8, but shouldn't matter that much
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L1100[16:30:47] <sugoi_payonel> supporting this style of lookup is the first step
L1101[16:31:16] <gamax92> also for simplicity's sake and memory sake of not having that huge lookup table, please just do the common things :P
L1102[16:31:47] <sugoi_payonel> well first of all, all of this will be in a lazy-loaded method
L1103[16:31:58] <sugoi_payonel> so that makes the cost less important
L1104[16:32:06] <sugoi_payonel> but yeah, i'll keep it simple
L1105[16:35:33] <greaser|q> ok it seems that if i try to use rootdelay= the init task never returns
L1106[16:36:08] <gamax92> I'm gonna do a take two of running ocemu on ljx
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L1108[16:37:22] <vifino> I think my monitor just died.
L1109[16:37:27] <Stary2001> f
L1110[16:37:27] <vifino> Fuck. FUCK.
L1111[16:38:38] <Alissa> ^ and that's primarily why i use really cheap and somewhat disposable ones :D
L1112[16:40:37] <alekso56> Alissa: he can't read your message, his monitor just died.
L1113[16:40:55] <Alissa> I would assume he has a different computer or phone he could use
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L1115[16:42:04] <Dashkal> Ok, I just had a moment of heart failure. I misread monitor, making that a good deal more intense.
L1116[16:42:09] <gamax92> oh huh, sox synth works fine here.
L1117[16:44:20] <vifino> works again. display port cable is broken, though.
L1118[16:46:13] <Stary2001> f
L1119[16:50:39] <Alissa> vifino: better cable than monitor?
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L1121[16:56:05] <gamax92> well that's neat
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L1123[16:56:25] <gamax92> ljx no longer has a weird scope issue and that metatable issue is also fixed
L1124[16:57:00] <Wiiplay123> How much graphics processing power do we have in OC compared to CC
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L1126[16:57:30] <Wiiplay123> Would it be possible to have the highest resolution monitors running a Minecraft-like game inside Minecraft
L1127[16:58:05] <gamax92> graphics are generally slower in OC than in CC
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L1129[16:58:27] <gamax92> but the trade off is that you server's bandwidth isn't kill
L1130[16:58:56] <Wiiplay123> If only there was a hologram projector with 3D printed blocks inside it
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L1133[17:00:44] <gamax92> oh nvm, I didn't have the updated version, so that metatable issue is still there.
L1134[17:01:19] <gamax92> gotta figure out the shortest way of reproducing it.
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L1136[17:03:11] * gamax92 pokes sugoi_payonel
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L1138[17:03:47] * sugoi_payonel giggles like the pillsbury doughboy
L1139[17:03:59] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: do you have SoX installed
L1140[17:04:29] <sugoi_payonel> http://sox.sourceforge.net/ ?
L1141[17:04:32] <gamax92> yeah
L1142[17:04:36] <sugoi_payonel> first time hearing about it
L1143[17:04:38] <sugoi_payonel> just now
L1144[17:04:40] <sugoi_payonel> :)
L1145[17:04:41] <gamax92> so then no :P
L1146[17:04:47] <sugoi_payonel> aye
L1147[17:04:50] <sugoi_payonel> that'd be no
L1148[17:04:54] * DeanIsaKitty throws cryogenically frozen marshmallows at sugoi_payonel
L1149[17:05:21] * sugoi_payonel makes hot cocoa
L1150[17:05:32] <gamax92> play -q -n synth 0.05 square 300 gain -10
L1151[17:05:53] <DeanIsaKitty> Noooo, you gotta eat them like that so you make mist in your mouth :O
L1152[17:06:19] <gamax92> ... why am I using gain, use vol.
L1153[17:09:12] <greaser|q> [22:57:31] <Wiiplay123> Would it be possible to have the highest resolution monitors running a Minecraft-like game inside Minecraft <-- aalib is a thing
L1154[17:09:35] <greaser|q> if you don't mind b/w then the gpu bandwidth is perfectly adequate
L1155[17:09:42] <greaser|q> although tbqh it's more like a VDP than a GPU
L1156[17:10:17] <Nachtara> my basemate is an idiot btw
L1157[17:10:17] <vifino> greaser|q: caca > aalib
L1158[17:10:30] <gamax92> aalib > caca, caca's output is grose
L1159[17:10:33] <gamax92> gross*
L1160[17:10:44] <Nachtara> a tier 7 idiot
L1161[17:10:49] <vifino> gamax92: you're gross :v
L1162[17:11:01] <greaser|q> i second gamax92 on this actually
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L1164[17:11:21] <vifino> waaat
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L1167[17:27:31] <`-`> Haha I just learned that 30 years ago my mom got high with a friend and learned how to play chess
L1168[17:27:58] <greaser|q> ah wow
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L1170[17:29:38] <`-`> I also got new glasses so now I can make my font size smaller
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L1172[17:30:01] <`-`> Beautiful.
L1173[17:30:02] * Dashkal really needs to get on that
L1174[17:30:16] <Dashkal> The headaches are starting to irritate me enough to actually do something about it >.>
L1175[17:32:39] <`-`> We also hypothesized that Marijuana is illegal because it makes people more productive
L1176[17:33:15] <`-`> I also convinced her to vote for Bernie, since she was going to vote for Trump because she has a rational hatred of Hilary
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L1178[17:34:07] <Dashkal> In a matchup between Hillary vs Trump... I'm glad I'm Canadian.
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L1180[17:44:02] * gamax92 gives Dashkal a cup of tea
L1181[17:44:18] <Dashkal> ooo, I just finished one. Danke
L1182[17:44:22] * Dashkal happily sips
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L1184[17:52:27] <DeanIsaKitty> `-`: You are not more productive if your arms are made of jelly .-.
L1185[17:53:31] <g> Is he cosplaying as a wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubeman again?
L1186[17:53:46] <DeanIsaKitty> g: No, about the Marijunana comment
L1187[17:54:02] <g> Ah right, sorry, lost my scrollback
L1188[18:03:03] <Mimiru> mmmmmm Sake Kit Kat
L1189[18:03:37] <sugoi_payonel> Mimiru: !! hey look at my nick!
L1190[18:03:45] <sugoi_payonel> i mean, it's long, and weird
L1191[18:03:48] <sugoi_payonel> but, something new!
L1192[18:03:51] * sugoi_payonel dances
L1193[18:04:04] <Mimiru> lol, I know :P I agreed with the suggestion lol
L1194[18:04:09] <sugoi_payonel> oh
L1195[18:04:19] <sugoi_payonel> well, yaaaa..y
L1196[18:04:26] * sugoi_payonel gets back to code
L1197[18:04:27] <Mimiru> Indeed gritz :P
L1198[18:08:38] <`-`> DeanIsaKitty: But my arms are made of mom's spaghetti
L1199[18:09:01] <Dashkal> You might want to get those vomit arms replaced >.>
L1200[18:09:18] * `-` slaps Dashkal with his arms
L1201[18:09:19] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L1202[18:09:35] <vifino> sugoi_payonel: your name is too looong
L1203[18:09:42] <sugoi_payonel> vifino: :) i have a plan
L1204[18:09:52] <`-`> vifino: Could be longer
L1205[18:09:54] <sugoi_payonel> this is the transition, starting with sugoi_payonel, next sug_payonel
L1206[18:10:06] <sugoi_payonel> then su_payonel, spayonel.....and finally payonel
L1207[18:10:09] <sugoi_payonel> eeease into it
L1208[18:10:15] <sugoi_payonel> 1 day at a time
L1209[18:10:22] <Dashkal> You can go faster if you use lu....
L1210[18:10:27] <Dashkal> Stopping there
L1211[18:10:28] <`-`> I should transition into a new name
L1212[18:10:44] <vifino> Dashkal: lunix?
L1213[18:10:44] <`-`> One with less numbers
L1214[18:10:54] <vifino> `-`: ds9
L1215[18:10:55] <Dashkal> vifino: Yep. Totally meant that.
L1216[18:11:19] <vifino> `-`: i like your name though, ds84182
L1217[18:11:27] <vifino> it's nice and memorizable
L1218[18:11:37] <`-`> I also just realized I could make a QEMU arch that runs my arm arch though
L1219[18:12:11] <`-`> I found a bug that is present in ARM stuff and not present in QEMU. I found it when I was trying to save a bunch of registers into memory
L1220[18:12:30] <MatthiasM2> huh? which ARM?
L1221[18:12:41] <`-`> MatthiasM2: ARM7TDMI, so ARMv4
L1222[18:12:57] <MatthiasM2> ahh - we use ARMv7
L1223[18:13:15] <MatthiasM2> i.MX6 and soon Armada XP
L1224[18:14:06] <`-`> I have an STM32 here, but I can't find the proper datasheets for stuff
L1225[18:14:21] <`-`> The most I've found is the memory map
L1226[18:14:30] <`-`> But that doesn't tell me how to use the things :/
L1227[18:14:41] <MatthiasM2> the STM32 datasheets are public I think - at least for the F0x series
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L1229[18:16:43] <`-`> The thing is, it gives me register ranges for all the GPIOs and timers and stuff, but doesn't say exactly how to use those things
L1230[18:17:03] <`-`> Unless ARM has official datasheets on a standardized interface for those
L1231[18:17:15] <ping> `-`, they do dumbass
L1232[18:17:32] <ping> its a GPIO interface mapped to some memory range
L1233[18:17:37] <MatthiasM2> no - the description on how to use it is in the family user guide
L1234[18:17:50] <`-`> ping: Fuck you bitch was I fucking asking you god you better watch yourself or I'll slip my pickle into your-- ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1235[18:17:59] <`-`> MatthiasM2: Thanks, I'll try to find that
L1236[18:21:56] <`-`> MatthiasM2: Thanks, I found it ( ͡^ ͜ʖ ͡^)
L1237[18:22:03] <MatthiasM2> :DD
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L1241[18:30:27] * gamax92 pokes `-`
L1242[18:30:54] <`-`> gamax92: Hmm?
L1243[18:31:12] <gamax92> `-`: is it safe to assume that the first upvalue in a function will be _ENV?
L1244[18:31:27] <`-`> gamax92: Yes
L1245[18:31:31] <gamax92> nop
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L1247[18:31:46] <`-`> It is always _ENV in all generated bytecode
L1248[18:31:47] <gamax92> `-`: http://hastebin.com/apobuwanel.lua
L1249[18:32:03] <gamax92> the function in __len has no _ENV upvalue, only val
L1250[18:32:28] <`-`> Huh, so Lua culls it if the function doesn't use globals
L1251[18:32:29] <`-`> clever
L1252[18:32:42] <`-`> Actually it just doesn't put a definition in there
L1253[18:32:45] <`-`> It's still "there"
L1254[18:33:16] <`-`> It just sees no reason to include it
L1255[18:33:33] <gamax92> oh huh ... I wonder if that would make my bug report simpler now that I think about this.
L1256[18:34:14] <gamax92> nope ...
L1257[18:35:01] <gamax92> I tried reducing it to just this http://hastebin.com/icososemup.lua but that gives 9 and not _ENV like the bug I was expecting
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L1259[19:02:14] <sugoi_payonel> word jumping working
L1260[19:02:19] <sugoi_payonel> coo
L1261[19:02:50] <vifino> Did you mean "woo", "cool" or "coconut"?
L1262[19:03:02] <sugoi_payonel> coo as in cool
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L1266[19:04:46] <vifino> sugoi_payonel: But coconut is much more apropriate.
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L1268[19:06:38] *** sug_payonel is now known as payonel
L1269[19:06:45] <payonel> meh, i'm impatient
L1270[19:07:14] <Dashkal> ! You forgot the lu.... nevermind.
L1271[19:07:21] <payonel> i still dont get that joke
L1272[19:07:22] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Dashkal
L1273[19:07:45] <Dashkal> What starts with 'lu' and assists with "easing into"?
L1274[19:08:04] <Mimiru> Lube... the joke is lube
L1275[19:08:22] <payonel> um, hilarious
L1276[19:08:46] <payonel> sorry i let that slip through my fingers...
L1277[19:08:52] <Dashkal> You must have found it
L1278[19:09:26] <DeanIsaKitty> payonel: "slip" and "fingers" is a good beginning, yes :P
L1279[19:09:39] <payonel> yeah, i made that lame pun for your amusement
L1280[19:15:43] <greaser|q> checking the earlier one it returns 9 in lua 5.3.2
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L1282[19:16:08] <greaser|q> although i did bash that into the shell, i'll do it as a file
L1283[19:16:41] <greaser|q> ...still prints "9 9"
L1284[19:19:18] <gamax92> greaser|q: referring to apobuwanel?
L1285[19:19:21] <greaser|q> yeah
L1286[19:19:27] <gamax92> 9, 9 is the correct thing
L1287[19:19:31] <gamax92> ljx gives 9, _ENV
L1288[19:19:36] <greaser|q> ah righty
L1289[19:20:40] <vifino> gamax92: you used ljx?
L1290[19:20:47] <vifino> from katlogic?
L1291[19:20:53] <gamax92> yeah?
L1292[19:21:05] <vifino> cool
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L1294[19:24:33] <Mimiru> Got a bunch of Japanese snacks today
L1295[19:25:06] <vifino> Mimiru: Good job.
L1296[19:26:03] <Wiiplay123> I just realised
L1297[19:26:19] <Wiiplay123> Can we track players in OpenComputers
L1298[19:26:59] <Mimiru> http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/naim2/item/138-a100691532/ http://www.candysan.com/product.php?id_product=897 http://www.candysan.com/product.php?id_product=902 http://www.candysan.com/product.php?id_product=2333
L1299[19:27:07] <greaser|q> woohoo i finally have a working vim X clipboard \:D/
L1300[19:27:29] <Mimiru> OpenSecurity has a Entity Detector, and OC has a Player Radar iirc
L1301[19:27:30] <greaser|q> Wiiplay123: if you have a debug card you can definitely abuse that
L1302[19:27:50] <Wiiplay123> I'm thinking like the location of players near the computer
L1303[19:28:08] <Mimiru> Entity Detector can do that
L1304[19:28:14] <Wiiplay123> ooooh
L1305[19:28:35] <Wiiplay123> I'm trying to imagine how this would work
L1306[19:28:42] <Mimiru> What version of MC are you on?
L1307[19:28:45] <Wiiplay123> But what if we made a holodeck
L1308[19:28:53] <Wiiplay123> 1.8.9
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L1310[19:28:58] <Mimiru> No OpenSecurity then
L1311[19:29:01] <Wiiplay123> I don't have OC installed yet
L1312[19:29:18] <Mimiru> I've not finished the 1.8 port of OS
L1313[19:29:27] * Dashkal perks up at that phrasing
L1314[19:29:45] <Mimiru> Dashkal, it's a long ways off
L1315[19:30:19] * Dashkal wilts again
L1316[19:31:09] <Mimiru> I don't know how certain things work in 1.8... and OpenFM is horridly broken because of it...
L1317[19:31:12] <Mimiru> OpenSec would be worse
L1318[19:31:16] * gamax92 pours Dashkal on tea
L1319[19:31:27] <gamax92> ... yeah sure go with that
L1320[19:31:42] <Mimiru> o_O
L1321[19:31:44] * Dashkal dissolves
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L1324[19:32:20] <payonel> gamax92: any thoughts before I PR: https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/e7cdc22048c92ba0d71051281750ef14d016be8e/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/lib/term.lua#L354
L1325[19:32:40] <`-`> He... did the transition
L1326[19:32:42] <payonel> yes i ended up using the whole table - seemed not a big deal
L1327[19:32:47] <payonel> `-`: :)
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L1329[19:32:51] <gamax92> payonel: how does --[[@delayloaded-start@]] work
L1330[19:32:53] <payonel> i hope it works out
L1331[19:33:04] <payonel> gamax92: magic
L1332[19:33:17] <payonel> it's a type of package load
L1333[19:33:29] <payonel> there is a parser that skips these methods, and then loads them on first use
L1334[19:33:42] <gamax92> payonel: what I want you to do before you pr it, is to actually go look up and make a list of those characters and their unicode name
L1335[19:33:50] <payonel> i tested many different "delay load" implementations, this was the cheapest
L1336[19:33:59] <gamax92> so you actually understand what they are and why the whole skip value thing is kinda stupid
L1337[19:34:14] <payonel> yeah it looked dumb for most ranges
L1338[19:34:19] <gamax92> it is :P
L1339[19:34:23] <payonel> but some of them i have no idea what codes they are
L1340[19:34:28] <payonel> your point is valid, absolutely
L1341[19:34:32] <payonel> ok, i'll look 'em up
L1342[19:35:20] <payonel> anywho, the cost of a delay loaded method is the string name of the method and two numbers in one entry in a table (a shared tabled)
L1343[19:35:58] <payonel> no other object is created for this purpose, shared metatable single method, shared table, etc
L1344[19:41:15] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/12783529_10201240052040030_7882974236496190740_o.jpg
L1345[19:41:34] <payonel> sugoi :)
L1346[19:42:38] <Mimiru> Sake
L1347[19:43:29] <gamax92> payonel: http://hastebin.com/xacabozufe.txt
L1348[19:43:47] <gamax92> oooooh, the japanese kit-kats <3
L1349[19:44:06] <Mimiru> Yes, very good, had to order more.. lol
L1350[19:44:30] <Mimiru> Think I'll order more on my next check too cause damn
L1351[19:44:44] <payonel> gamax92: heh, thanks. i was making the same thing to share with you, hadn't decided on the format
L1352[19:44:54] <payonel> so %s hits all but >=133
L1353[19:45:09] <payonel> #lua string.char(133)
L1354[19:45:09] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > �
L1355[19:45:15] <payonel> #lua string.char(133):find("%s")
L1356[19:45:15] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L1357[19:45:35] <payonel> #lua string.char(160):find("%s") -- non breaking space
L1358[19:45:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
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L1360[19:46:32] <gamax92> normal lua just uses isspace and things like that
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L1363[19:47:00] <gamax92> well, used to, now I think it's optional between the C functions and it's own look up table
L1364[19:48:32] <greaser|q> welp, just had to point out that sleep() isn't setitimer() and should not be treated like such
L1365[19:48:47] <greaser|q> something something not accurate even on real hardware something something
L1366[19:53:03] <payonel> ha, it doesn't even work
L1367[19:53:21] <payonel> i pasted   into the shell, and ctrl movement didn't detect it as an edge
L1368[19:53:32] <payonel> i'm starting to not care
L1369[19:53:37] <payonel> i think %s is quite sufficient
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L1371[19:54:28] <gamax92> payonel: it is
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L1374[19:58:13] <gamax92> I think I'm going to go write some more tests, after watching this vid
L1375[19:58:39] <gamax92> since I've discovered a number of bugs in ocemu (nothing bad) since Sangar posted a thing
L1376[20:03:30] <payonel> https://git.io/v2XpV
L1377[20:03:35] <payonel> btw, that's my first git.io!
L1378[20:03:39] <payonel> i'm pretty excited about it
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L1380[20:12:53] <greaser|q> oh hey i found another pdf, this time it's for the R3071, R3081, R3071E, R3081E cpus... according to R3000.pdf these are probably the models i'd like to emulate the most closely
L1381[20:13:17] <greaser|q> all E models have an MMU, if it doesn't have an E, no MMU. the OCMIPS implementation currently has an MMU.
L1382[20:14:26] <greaser|q> however, i don't emulate the cache - this'll be a hopefully cheap way of separating the men from the boys, and what i mean is the programs that are written which respect the cache, and the programs that don't give a shit about it
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L1386[20:16:45] <Wiiplay123> Where the MIPS processor at
L1387[20:17:09] <Wiiplay123> I was trying to type "Where's the MIPS processor download" but I forgot "the" and just typed "at" because I was lazy but yeah is it released yet
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L1389[20:22:54] <greaser|q> if you're looking for OCMIPS, https://github.com/iamgreaser/ocmips/ for source and http://magicannon.com/ocmips-latest.jar for build, i haven't updated these in a couple of days though unfortunately
L1390[20:23:15] <greaser|q> it's not really "released", it's still a WIP
L1391[20:23:27] <greaser|q> if you're looking for a good manual, R3000.pdf should suffice
L1392[20:24:06] <greaser|q> also i'm looking at r3081.pdf, that actually covers the instruction timings of the "FPA" quite nicely
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L1394[20:30:29] <greaser|q> the icache size is 16 bytes (4 words) wide, the dcache size is 4 bytes (1 word) wide
L1395[20:31:39] <greaser|q> apparently the /R30[78]1E?/ comes in 16KBi+4KBd or 8KBi+8KBd, not sure if this is a switchable setting
L1396[20:32:01] <greaser|q> ...turns out it is
L1397[20:32:39] <greaser|q> "If the Alternative Cache Size bit of the CP0 Config register is set, the internal cache organization will be changed to 8kB of Instruction Cache, and 8kB of data cache, as shown in figure 4.3. The write-through, direct mapped, and line size characteristics of the cache remain unchanged."
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L1399[20:35:14] <greaser|q> oh right, the PS1 uses an LSI-manufactured R3051, while it's supposed to have a 1KB data cache, what actually happens is you have access to a 1KB section of internal memory
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L1402[20:39:40] <greaser|q> "Halt: 1 -> Stall CPU until reset or interrupt" <-- could totally abuse this
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L1404[20:44:03] <rashy> -sneaks back in after centuries of being MIA-
L1405[20:44:15] <Dashkal> o/
L1406[20:44:23] <rashy> yello!
L1407[20:44:28] <gamax92> ohai.
L1408[20:44:34] <greaser|q> probably good timing, i've been porting linux to my ocmips mod
L1409[20:45:00] <greaser|q> although i've decided to take a break for the rest of the day
L1410[20:45:18] <rashy> sounds like fun :o
L1411[20:47:47] <greaser|q> the last screenshot i posted, i think: https://i.imgur.com/yGj2hLZ.png
L1412[20:48:26] <greaser|q> i've since managed to get root to at least pretend to mount on vfat, unfortunately it couldn't run anything, so i switched to ext3, refuses to actually mount it
L1413[20:48:48] <greaser|q> attempted rootdelay=5 as a commandline option (compiled in of course) and i find out that the scheduler timer is broken
L1414[20:50:09] <greaser|q> spends all the time in idle
L1415[20:50:34] <greaser|q> time DOES tick upwards though
L1416[20:52:33] <greaser|q> oh and in case you're wondering, yes, i do have virtual memory... i do need to fix up the notably smaller OS kernel i was working on though so i can get back to running e.g. lua on it
L1417[20:53:30] <greaser|q> with 192KB total ram, i had 48KB free ram for lua 5.3.2 (~352KB) to run, and it still managed to load off an OC floppy disk... in 19 minutes
L1418[20:53:47] <greaser|q> with adequate ram (384KB and up i think) it took 6 seconds
L1419[21:00:12] <gamax92> greaser|q: people can make amazing demos in 4KB, you can do better than this :|
L1420[21:00:42] <greaser|q> gamax92: the bootloader runs in 4KB and is notably more verbose than the lua one?
L1421[21:01:19] <greaser|q> with that said, it's a MIPS, you have 4 bytes per instruction
L1422[21:02:39] <greaser|q> for comparison, i think when i tried making the minilua that luajit has, it was 90KB stripped for x86_64
L1423[21:02:44] <greaser|q> and about 200KB stripped for MIPS
L1424[21:03:19] <greaser|q> gamax92: thing is, getting Lua to fit in 4KB is just not going to happen
L1425[21:03:33] <greaser|q> 64KB? possibly. but not 4KB.
L1426[21:05:19] <greaser|q> someone did some research and summed up that the optimal size for a demo is about 96KB
L1427[21:05:26] <greaser|q> or was it 200KB, can't quite remember
L1428[21:05:39] <greaser|q> but you can still do a shitload in 64KB
L1429[21:06:08] <greaser|q> i'd like to make that MMIO API compiler thing though, i just haven't decided on a format yet
L1430[21:07:47] <gamax92> greaser|q: also that the only thing being taken into account is the demo itself, windows and the opengl/directx libraries are much larger than 4KB :P
L1431[21:09:44] <greaser|q> gamax92: if you want to have some fun, write a 64KB demo that requires an intel GPU and just uses the framebuffer: http://wiki.osdev.org/User:Greasemonkey/Intel_GenX
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L1433[21:12:18] <greaser|q> but yeah, a warning, for Gen4.5 devices (e.g. GM45 boards) you definitely want to disable the panelfitter if you're running in native resolution... otherwise, set PIPEASRC/PIPEBSRC to whatever the hell you want
L1434[21:12:32] <greaser|q> use 320x200 for maximum kudos
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L1436[21:26:28] <ping> {}, wtf?
L1437[21:32:07] <payonel> hey guys, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1662
L1438[21:32:20] <payonel> would it be rude to say "um, no thanks" :)
L1439[21:32:32] <Mimiru> No
L1440[21:32:50] <payonel> with my new term, shift+enter to simulate multi-line is actually very very doable
L1441[21:32:54] <payonel> which is cool
L1442[21:33:11] <payonel> but to parse input in the lua interpreter until "complete" ... that's not what i think we want
L1443[21:34:37] <Temia> Hey greaser, question: is there any handling for when the panic halts or puts the processor into a busy loop or whatever to shut down the emulation?
L1444[21:36:21] <Temia> And payonel
L1445[21:36:23] <Temia> It's Soni
L1446[21:36:34] <Temia> You could tell them to fuck off and nobody would bat an eye
L1447[21:36:42] <ping> sonis back?
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L1449[21:37:34] <ping> "I don't want multiline term.read. I want multiline Lua REPL."
L1450[21:37:38] <ping> are you fucking kidding me wat.
L1451[21:38:10] <ping> multiline in vanilla lua is actually inconvenient to use
L1452[21:38:38] <ping> id rather it be a mini text editor than something that detects when blocks arent finished
L1453[21:39:14] <gamax92> tbh, I also hate the multilined incomplete-block thing the Lua REPL does
L1454[21:39:52] <ping> gamax92, you should see python
L1455[21:39:53] <ping> xD
L1456[21:40:13] <gamax92> and sure one might go "oh you forgot an end, so then you just type end(ENTER)" cool, it's also easier to not support that and just do (up)end(enter)
L1457[21:40:17] <ping> you have to get used to pressing enter twice after anything
L1458[21:40:24] <payonel> Temia: i'm not that way :)
L1459[21:40:37] <Temia> I know, just saying
L1460[21:40:43] <Temia> Putting things into perspective, y'know?
L1461[21:41:37] <gamax92> gah, stop watching and get to writing tests ;-;
L1462[21:41:58] <payonel> but unless i'm to do multiline like you asked...i think we have some difference in opinion on it
L1463[21:42:10] <payonel> unless I'm told*
L1464[21:43:00] <Mimiru> http://speedof.me/show.php?img=160302034250-7372.png
L1465[21:53:45] <gamax92> :| hearing some weird interference between something visual and the sound card.
L1466[22:00:55] <Mimiru> https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv/20160301.txt
L1467[22:00:56] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
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L1469[22:02:21] <gamax92> uuuuuuh
L1470[22:02:26] <gamax92> payonel: I did a bad.
L1471[22:02:52] <payonel> :)
L1472[22:03:19] <payonel> yes?
L1473[22:03:38] <gamax92> payonel: https://i.imgur.com/SfJhYLR.png
L1474[22:04:03] <gamax92> this is not next-term btw, I forgot to throw that in
L1475[22:04:11] <payonel> but it's 192k ?
L1476[22:04:26] <gamax92> oh lol, I didn't notice that.
L1477[22:04:44] <payonel> yeah, without the new term, on 192k, you're running on like 5-10k
L1478[22:04:46] <gamax92> do the very latest ci.cil.li builds have next-term?
L1479[22:04:50] <payonel> and tiny things like tab complete will kill it
L1480[22:05:01] <payonel> sangar merged next term just today
L1481[22:05:09] <payonel> soo..i'm not sure
L1482[22:05:11] <gamax92> so then I might have it.
L1483[22:05:45] <payonel> oh yes
L1484[22:05:50] <payonel> given that line #, yeah, you have it
L1485[22:06:03] <payonel> but yeah, if you're running on low mem, it can't load everything
L1486[22:06:17] <gamax92> I forgot that this machine had no memory in it :P
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L1488[22:08:43] <gamax92> payonel: atleast T1 is somewhat usable for me to have not noticed
L1489[22:09:57] <gamax92> payonel: :| it still crashes on 2MB though.
L1490[22:10:39] * gamax92 flails
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L1492[22:17:35] <gamax92> maybe I'll just revert or something :c
L1493[22:20:54] <payonel> out of mem of 2MB?
L1494[22:21:02] <gamax92> no not that, the error message
L1495[22:21:39] <gamax92> the out of mem thing is when you press a key, it sits there and then clears the screen and puts "out of memory"
L1496[22:21:50] <gamax92> doesn't do that on 2MB
L1497[22:22:36] <payonel> what was the crash for "it still crashes on 2MB though."
L1498[22:23:16] <gamax92> payonel: so look at that screenshot and then ignore the "out of memory" and put the standard greeter there instead
L1499[22:23:24] <gamax92> it's the same error message
L1500[22:26:12] <payonel> ok, maybe i have a bad assumption. what is the repro?
L1501[22:26:18] <gamax92> pressing tab
L1502[22:26:29] <payonel> with no input?
L1503[22:26:34] <gamax92> yeah
L1504[22:26:37] <payonel> on normal shell, right after bot?
L1505[22:26:40] <payonel> +o
L1506[22:26:42] <gamax92> yeah
L1507[22:26:48] <payonel> HA
L1508[22:26:52] <payonel> LOOK AT THAT
L1509[22:26:54] <payonel> :)
L1510[22:26:57] <payonel> the shame
L1511[22:27:13] <gamax92> shamey onii yew!
L1512[22:27:14] <payonel> ok, thanks, i'll ammend a PR i have already for another term fix
L1513[22:29:23] <payonel> AH HA, i see my mistake
L1514[22:29:28] <payonel> awesome, thanks gamax92
L1515[22:42:04] <Tiktalik> http://paste.debian.net/410865/ < does anyone know of any mods in these with memory leaks?
L1516[22:46:05] * rashy pokes Temia and runs
L1517[22:46:14] <Temia> :|
L1518[22:46:16] <Tiktalik> :U
L1519[22:46:20] <rashy> :D
L1520[22:48:51] <Temia> Since Tik's gone and posted it here I guess I'll speak up. tl;dr custom modpack, permgen leak on server, only occurs with player presence, lasts a few hours before crashing usually. Flags are: -Xms1G -Xmx2G -XX:MaxPermSize=512m -XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC -XX:+CMSClassUnloadingEnabled
L1521[22:49:12] <Temia> Only reason Permgen is a thing is because the server only has OpenJDK7 and I'm an unprivileged user. c.c;
L1522[22:49:23] <Temia> Though ten bucks says it'd just give me a metaspace error anyway.
L1523[22:49:37] <greaser|q> i'm trying to remember which one had a display list leak during btm16
L1524[22:49:46] <greaser|q> keep thinking it was factorization
L1525[22:50:00] <Tiktalik> i think it was
L1526[22:51:52] <greaser|q> clearly you need to add "TH-ITEMS-MOD+ ver2.90-1.7.10.zip" to that
L1527[22:52:21] <payonel> Temia: tho we may disagree on the multiline, did you notice i implemented the word jumps?
L1528[22:53:34] <gamax92> rubber band-aid
L1529[22:55:00] <Temia> Huh?
L1530[22:55:12] <Temia> I never really voiced any opinions on the multiline.
L1531[22:55:27] <payonel> i'm talking about your request for the lua interpreter
L1532[22:55:32] <Temia> Uh, what?
L1533[22:56:12] <Temia> I reminded you Soni deserved absolutely no respect from the community. I'm, uh, pretty sure I'm not Soni by extension. >_>;
L1534[22:56:33] <payonel> ah, when you said "Temia | It's Soni" i thought you were saying _you_ are soni
L1535[22:56:35] <payonel> sorry
L1536[22:56:50] <payonel> i understand now what that meant
L1537[22:57:04] <Dashkal> ewww....
L1538[22:57:04] <gamax92> if Temia were Soni, why would she say you can tell her to fuck off and she wouldn't bat an eye :P
L1539[22:57:09] <Temia> Oof. Yeah, my apologies for the poor phrasing then
L1540[22:57:20] <payonel> poor reading :)
L1541[22:57:24] <Dashkal> Soni terrifies me. That one has issues.
L1542[22:57:55] <payonel> but yeah, word jumping!
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L1546[23:38:59] <greaser|q> Temia: oh right, i didn't see your question: the BSODs are done on the java side although it just makes the thing return, as for Linux i have a handler for cpu_idle or whatever the hell it is and it does halt the cpu until the next MC tick
L1547[23:40:23] <Temia> Mmkay
L1548[23:40:31] <gamax92> :3
L1549[23:40:46] <gamax92> ljx dev gave me a temporary work around for that bug
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