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L23[01:16:27] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> uh
L24[01:16:29] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> wat
L25[01:19:35] <Vexatos> Meelock Meelock meelock meelock meelock?
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L30[01:53:09] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi: You can change the tmux binding (did that) to ease the switch. I like tmux for its higher scriptability. (e.g. tmuxinator)
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L33[02:01:35] <sugoi> DeanIsaKitty: that's a good suggesetion
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L39[02:42:05] <Kodos> Hot damn why is sriracha so damn good
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L43[04:09:58] <greaser|q> found a bug, if you remove sticks of RAM from a running server it doesn't update the RAM count
L44[04:10:07] <greaser|q> unless this was squished a few months ago
L45[04:10:43] <greaser|q> as a workaround i'm going to double the RAM of a diamond stick, i need my magic "get program counter" debug tool
L46[04:14:03] <Inari> With the kids sing out the future~
L47[04:14:06] <Inari> Maybe, kids don't need the masters~
L48[04:17:17] <greaser|q> ok it seems it's stuck in a loop in cpu_probe and it's really hard to find exactly what the loop is
L49[04:26:12] <greaser|q> ah right, it probes for the FPU and crashes
L50[04:39:27] <greaser|q> ok, after adding the detection support, it now draws the ascii penguin... then breaks
L51[04:49:20] <greaser|q> a for(;;){} loop in gpuinit() yields this fuckup: https://i.imgur.com/1zEsxLH.png
L52[04:49:44] <greaser|q> well, reveals it
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L58[05:05:36] <greaser|q> bluescreens very early on so i have to hit esc twice in quick succession but anyway...
L59[05:05:41] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/PRyldJl.png
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L61[05:06:19] <Vexatos> that penguin
L62[05:06:43] <greaser|q> yeah it's a classic
L63[05:07:43] <Vexatos> who needs an HD tux anyway
L64[05:16:41] <greaser|q> ok got a hard lockup loop loaded into the exception handlers, need to work out how to pass them off to the linux kernel panic handler
L65[05:18:39] <greaser|q> so yeah this is where it breaks: https://i.imgur.com/qz07BBX.png
L66[05:20:36] <Saphire> o.o
L67[05:21:13] <Saphire> wai, it can't even panic?
L68[05:21:30] <greaser|q> it can only explicitly panic using the panic() function and that's not even been tested
L69[05:22:11] <greaser|q> and the answer to the question that keeps coming up: if you can spread it across enough swap and get X output running over libaa, yes
L70[05:22:43] <Saphire> was that the "can i play MC on it?" question? :D
L71[05:22:49] <Saphire> heh
L72[05:23:11] <Saphire> i can already see, a huge datacenter with tons of tapes just to load MC
L73[05:23:24] <greaser|q> of course it was
L74[05:24:19] <greaser|q> either way, while we have CC's claim of "now you can play this minecraft text adventure in minecraft", with enough polish, circularity will be complete
L75[05:24:36] <Saphire> heh
L76[05:24:37] <greaser|q> ...you will need to seriously jack up the RAM stick sizes though
L77[05:24:45] <Saphire> hm
L78[05:25:22] <Saphire> coming soon: youtube videos titled "How to install *thing* in minecraft!"
L79[05:26:00] <greaser|q> having said that, does MC play nicely with jamvm
L80[05:26:19] <greaser|q> wait probably not
L81[05:27:26] <greaser|q> ...then again even though the last release was in 2014, jamvm does have java 7 support
L82[05:27:51] <Vexatos> greaser|q, pretty sure you can set wam sizes to whatever
L83[05:27:54] <Vexatos> so make it like 1GB
L84[05:27:57] <Vexatos> and you're good :P
L85[05:28:10] <Vexatos> maybe 2
L86[05:28:18] <greaser|q> i cap it at 64MB for safety but the memory map lends itself to 512MB w/o issues
L87[05:28:35] <Vexatos> Just want to see you install java on it
L88[05:28:59] <greaser|q> until then, the closest we've had to MC in MC is the BTM16 closing keynote
L89[05:29:52] <greaser|q> ...maybe i should still continue on mocha once i've returned the mipsel-none-elf chain to newlib... the mipsel-unknown-linux-gnu chain is the one that uses musl
L90[05:30:46] <greaser|q> an intermediate step though would be to have some way to form a TCP server bridge and run a minecraft server
L91[05:31:34] <greaser|q> of course another intermediate step is getting classic MC working
L92[05:32:06] <greaser|q> and if it's going to be a server there's a lot of them available including one i wrote in 2009
L93[05:32:14] <greaser|q> which is probably one of the faster ones
L94[05:32:23] <greaser|q> but also has no heartbeat support so eh
L95[05:33:03] <greaser|q> for extra shits and giggles said server could also be hooked up to a debug card so you could watch what's going on :)
L96[05:34:22] <greaser|q> anyhow i really should sleep, p.s. happy tomorrow
L97[05:40:30] <Inari> http://en.musicplayon.com/play?v=703432 beautiful song
L98[05:41:18] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/February/pycharm64_2016-02-29_11-40-19.png
L99[05:41:23] <g> did not think I'd manage to be able to do this
L100[05:55:01] <Vexatos> Linux in OC, Lua in python... What's next
L101[05:55:49] <g> better: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/February/pycharm64_2016-02-29_11-55-39.png
L102[05:55:52] <g> haha, well, this isn't for oc
L103[05:56:02] <g> I'm attempting to add lua support to ultros
L104[05:56:10] <g> it uses luajit
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L106[05:57:30] <Saphire> Vexatos: your life in perl
L107[05:57:46] <Vexatos> g: Now run Selene on it
L108[05:57:48] <Vexatos> kthxbye
L109[05:57:52] <g> selene?
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L111[06:02:58] <Vexatos> Sell a knee
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L113[06:19:39] <Forecaster> sell both, you don't need em
L114[06:21:12] <Forecaster> knees are overrated!
L115[06:21:36] <Vexatos> g: http://git.io/vukds
L116[06:34:55] <Izaya> http://lain.shadowkat.science/~izaya/vpn/ I had some fun
L117[06:36:24] <Saphire> uh..?
L118[06:36:40] <Saphire> heh
L119[06:43:52] <Vexatos> can't press enter D:
L120[06:44:32] <Izaya> it doesn't do anything yet
L121[06:44:34] <Izaya> output works
L122[06:45:03] <Izaya> no input and no parser yet though
L123[06:46:25] <g> Vexatos: you'd just have to compile your lua with selene.parse
L124[06:46:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: You should close your html tags :P
L125[06:46:53] <Vexatos> g: what do you mean .-.
L126[06:46:56] <Izaya> DeanIsaKitty: probably, which ones did I forget?
L127[06:47:03] <Izaya> also how horribad is my javashit?
L128[06:47:06] <g> selene.parse(chunk:string [, stripcomments:boolean]):string This parses the given chunk of Selene or Lua code into pure Lua code
L129[06:47:14] <Vexatos> yes
L130[06:47:15] <DeanIsaKitty> At the end there's a rogue head instead of /html.
L131[06:47:20] <Izaya> oh
L132[06:47:23] <Izaya> oops
L133[06:47:27] <DeanIsaKitty> But your JavaScript is ok. For Javascript <.<
L134[06:47:31] <Vexatos> Selene is written purely in Lua, you require("selene").load() >_>
L135[06:47:49] <g> that wouldn't work because each lua import has its own lua context
L136[06:47:50] <Izaya> huh
L137[06:48:02] <g> there would have to be explicit support for it
L138[06:48:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Izaya: I dislike single space indentation, but thats the only real issue there. If you want to create really bad JS, make a small Makefile that runs it trough a minifier first P
L139[06:48:44] <g> lupa does work with libraries compiled against (but not linked with) luajit, though, so you could use it in just your own imports
L140[06:48:46] <DeanIsaKitty> *:P
L141[06:49:09] <g> Hi DeanIsaKitty o/
L142[06:49:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Hi g \o
L143[06:49:40] <g> did you only get like 4 hours of sleep?
L144[06:49:53] <DeanIsaKitty> More like 11. Which is much less like me actually <.<
L145[06:50:17] <g> ah, your idle time an hour ago was like 3 hours though
L146[06:50:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Yep, no need to turn of a completely silent computer :P
L147[06:51:02] <g> your PC is completely silent?
L148[06:51:03] <g> :o
L149[06:51:11] <DeanIsaKitty> No, not completely
L150[06:51:19] <Izaya> did you guys see the airtop
L151[06:51:22] <Izaya> ?
L152[06:51:33] <DeanIsaKitty> But way less loud than the wind outside or the heater element right next to it ^^
L153[06:51:38] <Izaya> anyway
L154[06:51:44] <Izaya> I'm going to bed
L155[06:51:48] <g> Ah, fair enough
L156[06:51:52] <Izaya> seeyas in the future at some point
L157[06:51:52] <g> my fans would keep me awake
L158[06:51:53] <g> :P
L159[06:52:13] <DeanIsaKitty> NIght Izaya, sleep well ;)
L160[06:52:20] <g> o/ Izaya
L161[06:52:22] <g> brb.
L162[06:53:40] <DeanIsaKitty> TIL github has a "Nginx" code type for NGINX configuration.
L163[06:56:07] <g> Yep, it does
L164[06:56:10] <g> it has one for IRC logs too
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L166[07:03:40] <Inari> Life would be cool if fortune was a gaussian distribution and horoscopes could accurately predict it
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L168[07:22:30] <Forecaster> or would it?
L169[07:39:08] <Kodos> 1.9 hype
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L171[07:51:28] <Lizzy> beep
L172[07:54:10] <Kodos> I take no responsibility if I start prefixing messages with OOC or say
L173[07:54:32] <Lizzy> ?
L174[07:54:45] <Kodos> Started playing a ton of SS13 again
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L177[08:08:36] <Cruor> Kodos: :I y u xp waste on dxpw
L178[08:09:51] <Cruor> was this the channel with the silly tinyurl expansion bot <_>
L179[08:10:09] * Cruor pokes Kodos with the long link of doom instead http://hefin.openshell.network/rs/test/lordgtlcruor/2016-02-26T12:00:00/2016-02-29T12:00:00/
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L181[08:14:28] <Inari> Cruor: what ssilly about tinyurl expansion?
L182[08:14:44] <Cruor> Inari: it makes it take even more space :p
L183[08:14:55] <Inari> well some peopl elike to know what they click
L184[08:15:06] <Cruor> get a browser addon >_<
L185[08:15:11] <Inari> meh
L186[08:15:14] <Cruor> :p
L187[08:15:18] <Cruor> lets see though http://tinyurl.com/zsg6pvp
L188[08:15:20] <Inari> if anythign an irc addon
L189[08:15:25] <Cruor> huh
L190[08:15:41] <Cruor> where did i see that url expanding bot then...
L191[08:15:45] <Inari> not like message length is that important on IRC
L192[08:15:48] <Inari> more like twitter
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L194[08:15:57] <Cruor> :p
L195[08:16:08] <Cruor> but its kinda annoying when you have this huge abomination of an url
L196[08:16:17] <Cruor> and then it just explodes even harder because of some bot
L197[08:16:19] <g> Ultros follows shorteners while getting the title of stuff, if you're thinking of that
L198[08:16:27] <g> but I dunno any bots that actually just expand the full url
L199[08:17:03] <Inari> tit le stuff
L200[08:18:18] <Mimiru> MichiBot can do link expansion, mainly because people were short urling bullshit here I never finished the title extraction stuff
L201[08:18:32] <Cruor> hmm
L202[08:18:34] <g> haha, title extraction is not even close to trivial
L203[08:18:47] <Mimiru> Nope, which is why it's no finished :P
L204[08:18:50] <g> https://github.com/UltrosBot/Ultros/blob/master/plugins/urls/handlers/website.py
L205[08:18:53] <g> that's how we do it
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L207[08:20:50] <Mimiru> %urlinfo on
L208[08:20:53] <Mimiru> %urlinfo enable
L209[08:21:01] * Mimiru slaps MichiBot
L210[08:21:01] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L211[08:21:29] <Mimiru> Oh.. right i changed it
L212[08:21:32] <Mimiru> %url enable
L213[08:21:41] <Mimiru> ¬_¬
L214[08:21:53] <Mimiru> %test
L215[08:21:53] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Success
L216[08:22:00] <Mimiru> %url list
L217[08:22:00] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Enabled URL channels: [#MichiBot, #oc]
L218[08:22:03] <Mimiru> Oh..
L219[08:22:07] <Mimiru> http://tinyurl.com/zsg6pvp
L220[08:22:11] <MichiBot> Mimiru: http://hefin.openshell.network/rs/test/lordgtlcruor/2016-02-26T12:00:00/2016-02-29T12:00:00/ Page title: Stats for lordgtlcruor
L221[08:22:21] <Cruor> is work \o/ :p
L222[08:22:36] <Mimiru> Seems it doesn't message anymore
L223[08:22:53] <Mimiru> It's supposed to send a message on enable/disable
L224[08:22:57] <Mimiru> I never added that
L225[08:23:13] <Mimiru> %url disable
L226[08:23:16] <Mimiru> %url list
L227[08:23:16] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Enabled URL channels: [#MichiBot]
L228[08:23:33] <Lizzy> https://www.modmypi.com/raspberry-pi/rpi3-model-b/raspberry-pi-3-model-b/ :O
L229[08:25:41] <Inari> http://www.5z8.info/56-DEPLOY-TROJAN-287.mw9----_y6j0vf_cockfights best short url
L230[08:26:26] <Cruor> Inari: shady url generator? :D
L231[08:26:40] <Inari> ye
L232[08:27:12] <Inari> http://www.5z8.info/stalin_r7o7tj_-OPEN-WEBCAM---START-RECORD-- best use of shadyurl
L233[08:28:03] <Cruor> so good :>
L234[08:28:25] <Mimiru> EICAR.. :p
L235[08:29:02] <Inari> with my combination of software chrome actually DLs the file and bitdefender pops up and complaisn about a threat
L236[08:29:37] <Mimiru> I don't even get tha tfar, connection reset, and warning popup
L237[08:29:47] <Inari> haha
L238[08:30:14] <Inari> hm
L239[08:30:39] <Inari> what if i stick the eicar file into apng and link it for discord
L240[08:30:46] <Inari> afaik png could have random data in it too
L241[08:36:28] <gamax92> PNG will accept random extra chunks, the decoder just ignores everything it doesn't understand that's also marked not critical
L242[08:46:54] <Inari> now i just need to host this somewhere
L243[08:46:57] <Inari> dropbox doesnt cooperate :P
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L248[09:08:37] <Inari> "Splitting water is a two-step process, and in a new study, researchers have performed one of these steps (reduction) with 100% efficiency. The results shatter the previous record of 60% for hydrogen production with visible light, and emphasize that future research should focus on the other step (oxidation) in order to realize practical overall water splitting" :o
L249[09:09:41] <Vexatos> Isn't it more reduction and separation? >_>
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L251[09:11:38] <Inari> http://phys.org/news/2016-02-scientists-efficiency-water-splitting-half-reaction.html :P
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L258[09:52:56] <sugoi> i'm not much at all of a technical writer. i'm going to update ocdoc with a sincere amount of effort, but it may lack quality or clarity
L259[09:53:21] <sugoi> does anyone monitor changes there? or any nominations/volunteers to review the changes i'll be making over the next few days?
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L270[10:17:54] <sugoi_payonel> i dont have page-create permissions on ocdoc. i'd be happy to start working on ocdoc.cil.li/api:buffer
L271[10:25:08] <Lizzy> sugoi_payonel, you'll have to poke either Vexatos or Sangar when they're about (i'm not sure if i have access but even if i did i'm not sure how to give you perms)
L272[10:26:02] <sugoi_payonel> %tell Sangar if you would like a ocdoc.cil.li/api:buffer page, create it or give me perms, i'd be happy to work on it
L273[10:26:03] <MichiBot> sugoi_payonel: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
L274[10:26:06] <sugoi_payonel> Lizzy: cool thanks
L275[10:26:16] <Vexatos> sugoi_payonel, can't you "register"?
L276[10:26:23] <sugoi_payonel> i am, for editing
L277[10:26:34] <sugoi_payonel> but it doesn't give me a create page option...i may be misreading the situation
L278[10:26:36] * sugoi_payonel rechecks
L279[10:26:54] <sugoi_payonel> OH HEY LOOK
L280[10:27:00] <sugoi_payonel> hidden under "Options" :)
L281[10:27:02] <sugoi_payonel> haha, ok, sorry
L282[10:27:13] <sugoi_payonel> %tell Sangar nevermind ... :)
L283[10:27:13] <MichiBot> sugoi_payonel: Sangar will be notified of this message when next seen.
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L285[10:28:29] <sugoi_payonel> DeanIsaKitty: are you dean4devil?
L286[10:29:12] <Alissa> I think so
L287[10:29:33] <sugoi_payonel> dean4devil has that page locked for the next ~12 mins :)
L288[10:29:42] <sugoi_payonel> meh, there's a lot of other pages to work on
L289[10:32:29] <g> sugoi_payonel: yes, that's her
L290[10:32:29] <g> :P
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L293[10:51:28] <Vexatos> http://xkcd.com/1649/ hah
L294[10:51:30] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Pipelines Posted on: 2/29/2016
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L310[12:42:48] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2016-02-29_12-42-23.png
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L313[12:58:32] <gamax92> #lua 171/2-1
L314[12:58:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 84.5
L315[12:58:38] <gamax92> oh, so then just 85
L316[12:58:58] <gamax92> #lua 167/2
L317[12:58:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 83.5
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L323[13:37:45] <LuMistry> Greetings
L324[13:40:06] <gamax92> Hello, how serve we you may?
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L326[13:40:37] <LuMistry> gamax92, I require no such assistance at this time :)
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L328[13:49:35] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_NBtH0 lmao
L329[13:51:41] <greaser|q> morning
L330[13:52:52] <Lizzy> #p
L331[13:52:53] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.67539401 Seconds passed.
L332[13:53:06] <greaser|q> i've realised that i... ah crap i may have to declare some stuff as strictfp
L333[13:53:37] <greaser|q> but yeah i'll have to either write my own single-float-to-int converter, or poke around the kernel to see where it is
L334[13:59:28] <gamax92> floating point fun
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L338[14:26:58] <gamax92> luajit-ljx is just too buggy
L339[14:27:20] <gamax92> various scope issues where variables that should be present are not
L340[14:33:49] <gamax92> table.unpack is also broken
L341[14:35:00] <ping> why would you use luajit-ljx
L342[14:35:21] <ping> luajit already has bits of useful stuff from 5.2
L343[14:35:25] <ping> syntax wise
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L345[14:36:52] <gamax92> ping: _ENV stuffs
L346[14:37:34] <gamax92> ping: the lack of that in luajit makes certain OC stuff crap out when ran on luajit
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L348[14:38:37] <ping> gamax92, but why run OC on luajit? ;-;
L349[14:38:55] <gamax92> why not?
L350[14:39:02] <ping> uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
L351[14:39:05] <ping> persistence
L352[14:40:29] <gamax92> ocemu has no persistence anyway
L353[14:43:42] <gamax92> there, got it to boot on ljx
L354[14:43:57] <gamax92> oh, ls is broken.
L355[14:45:33] <gamax92> table length is broken in ljx
L356[14:45:37] <gamax92> it returns another table ...
L357[14:46:02] <gamax92> that might just be metatable weirdness but
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L360[14:54:54] <gamax92> heh okay then, more scope issues
L361[14:55:27] <gamax92> ping: function reads: function()return cols end, cols is 9, but I get a table back
L362[14:55:40] <gamax92> if I throw a select(cols) to act as a no-op, it gives me 9 back
L363[14:56:33] <ping> gamax92, what the fuck??
L364[14:57:07] <gamax92> ping: guess what this prints: local i=1 while i do print(i) break end
L365[15:00:45] <ping> gamax92, attempt to index nil
L366[15:00:56] <gamax92> >_> ping.
L367[15:01:03] <gamax92> there is no indexing there
L368[15:01:54] <Kasen> print 1 then break?
L369[15:02:23] <gamax92> nop, print's nil then breaks :P
L370[15:02:41] <gamax92> for some reason, in ljx a while loop causes that to happen
L371[15:03:00] <gamax92> every other form of block I've found so far hasn't caused an issue
L372[15:03:00] <ping> gamax92, i know theres no indexing
L373[15:03:12] <ping> i was joking because its so fucked up that it might aswell
L374[15:03:27] <gamax92> it's not that fucked up
L375[15:03:30] <ping> ah
L376[15:03:44] <ping> so are the register positions being clobbered somewhere?
L377[15:04:27] <gamax92> oh I guess that could be a thing
L378[15:04:30] <gamax92> stack clobbering
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L382[15:22:47] <`-`> iTS CLOBBERING TIME
L383[15:22:54] * `-` shifts gamax92 2 inches to the left
L384[15:22:56] * `-` flips ping
L385[15:24:04] <greaser|q> fun thing, there's a thing in linux called the block layer, the help says (paraphrased) "if you disable this, some filesystems (e.g. ext3) won't be available" and "say Y if you don't want to mount filesystems"
L386[15:24:13] <greaser|q> if you disable it, the only thing that's really available is FUSE
L387[15:25:29] <greaser|q> oh also: /home/ben/Downloads/MultiMC/bin/MultiMC: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libxcb-dri3.so.0: undefined symbol: xcb_get_reply_fds
L388[15:25:34] <greaser|q> going to have to reinstall the old ver
L389[15:25:42] <gamax92> greaser|q: or just remove their copy of the libs
L390[15:26:34] <gamax92> greaser|q: there's a bunch of .so's in MultiMC/bin, various xcb ones
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L392[15:26:50] <greaser|q> ah got it
L393[15:27:26] <greaser|q> anyway, i've dicked around with the linux build settings a bit more
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L395[15:35:38] <gamax92> greaser|q: yeah, I generally move all the .so's into a separate file (except for librainbow libnbt++ libMultiMC_logic), and then hex edit plugins/platforms/libqxcb.so so it refers to the new version of libxcb-sync (1 vs 0)
L396[15:35:48] <gamax92> separate folder *
L397[15:46:17] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L398[15:50:58] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> welp 1.9 is out ?
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L400[15:51:48] <gamax92> Fuckin hell I'm just gonna make my discord script fix your fucking nickname
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L407[16:04:10] <greaser|q> ok, turns out linux needs to use low memory for the initial allocator and i provide... 20KB
L408[16:04:38] <gamax92> heh
L409[16:04:48] <greaser|q> relocating the image anyway
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L411[16:07:51] <greaser|q> well the console's a bit fucked but i'm past that step now
L412[16:08:03] * vifino sighs
L413[16:08:17] <greaser|q> so good news, it can kinda print a traceback
L414[16:08:28] <vifino> I wish I didn't miss Lizzy and could've talked with her before she went to sleep. :(
L415[16:08:45] <vifino> I hate being sick. I sleep so darn long.
L416[16:08:58] * sugoi_payonel puts on lizzy_mask
L417[16:09:02] <sugoi_payonel> vifino: hello there
L418[16:09:20] <vifino> sugoi_payonel: Nice try cheering me up.
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L420[16:09:53] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/KkYEqs9.png
L421[16:10:03] <MobiTemi> Lizzy D:
L422[16:10:27] <vifino> Hey MobiTemi. She went to bed.
L423[16:10:33] <MobiTemi> Dagh
L424[16:10:42] <vifino> I missed her too. :(
L425[16:10:44] <greaser|q> fuck i did it again, i mixed up the type and value arguments in the MMIO API
L426[16:10:50] * vifino sob
L427[16:11:02] <Stary2001> gg
L428[16:11:10] <MobiTemi> And my laptop's pubkey isn't registered on Athar so I can't reboot the MC server. x.x
L429[16:12:55] <gamax92> oh right, Lizzy uses pubkey auth, right?
L430[16:13:19] <MobiTemi> yeah.
L431[16:13:49] <MobiTemi> I haven't set my VPN up yet either so I can't just log in through Alseid
L432[16:14:02] <vifino> *Lizzy is being a responsible server admin and upped the security level of her dedicated server.
L433[16:14:27] <MobiTemi> Well, it's a smart thing to do.
L434[16:14:45] <MobiTemi> I'm doing the same on my future Quasselcore host
L435[16:15:09] <gamax92> :o
L436[16:15:14] <MobiTemi> (which I will be moving to as soon as I get the VPN and rDNS working)
L437[16:15:40] <MobiTemi> at which point I will be temia@monmusu.me because I am utterly shameless \o/
L438[16:15:53] <gamax92> :P
L439[16:16:02] <MobiTemi> :>
L440[16:16:10] <MobiTemi> It was cheap to acquire
L441[16:16:14] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/hGS2rrI.png <-- console's still fucked, so i went for a larger GPU
L442[16:16:37] <vifino> greaser|q: whoa, that's cool
L443[16:16:50] <gamax92> it's beautiful
L444[16:17:07] <vifino> MobiTemi: What is a monmuse?
L445[16:17:10] <sugoi_payonel> greaser|q: what's wrong with it?
L446[16:17:26] <gamax92> sugoi_payonel: the fact that a crash trace is appearing :P
L447[16:17:46] <MobiTemi> monmusu is an abbreviation of monster musume, or monstergirl. :p
L448[16:17:49] <sugoi_payonel> oh i was wondering if he had issues with the terminal rendering
L449[16:18:15] <MobiTemi> Greaser, what about a serial tty emulation layer?
L450[16:18:16] <gamax92> well it doesn't support tabs it seems
L451[16:18:23] <gamax92> dem [HT]
L452[16:18:24] <sugoi_payonel> HT are the best tabs
L453[16:18:45] <gamax92> but then I wonder why "Status:" needs a tab
L454[16:18:50] <vifino> MobiTemi: Ah, cool :)
L455[16:18:56] <vifino> Thanks for explaining.
L456[16:18:57] <greaser|q> the good news is that it's now running the linux fault handler instead of my stubs
L457[16:19:32] <greaser|q> the other good news is the untested BEV (boot exception vector) bit in the coprocessor worked straight off the bat
L458[16:21:04] <MobiTemi> Am I the only one who feels serial tty emulation is the simplest solution to alternative architectures >.>
L459[16:22:15] <greaser|q> 8007feac: 00400013 mtlo v0
L460[16:22:19] <greaser|q> ^ that's the unhandled opcode
L461[16:22:36] <sugoi_payonel> MobiTemi: how is tty emulation akin to an alternative architecture? alt arch makes me think our oc cpu's Lua 5.2, 5.3, greaser's OCMIPS, etc
L462[16:23:15] <MobiTemi> I couldn't think of a terse catch-all term for architectures based on RL processors :x
L463[16:23:37] <MobiTemi> And serial communication is like one of the simplest, most baseline things to implement
L464[16:24:11] <MobiTemi> Maybe I'm not being clear what I'm saying. <.<
L465[16:24:52] <greaser|q> i'm tempted to come up with a different API for accessing components where you feed it a string and it produces a new port on the I/O bus
L466[16:24:54] <sugoi_payonel> MobiTemi: i'd sure like to understand what you mean. how is a tty emulator an arch?
L467[16:25:03] <greaser|q> i'll keep the one we have now for backwards compat though
L468[16:26:09] <MobiTemi> I mean using a virtual serial interface for writing to screen.
L469[16:26:34] <MobiTemi> Is that more clear?
L470[16:26:52] <greaser|q> i used to have a port that would print to stdout but i've since dummied it out
L471[16:27:13] <sugoi_payonel> MobiTemi: yeah that makes sense - i just wouldn't call it an "architecture"
L472[16:27:35] <sugoi_payonel> also, making the new /lib/term.lua i found to actually be pretty challenging :)
L473[16:27:36] <greaser|q> either way, the bootrom binds the gpu to the screen (oddly enough the preboot does this too) so all i need to do is look up the gpu
L474[16:27:40] <MobiTemi> I misphrased my statement.
L475[16:27:51] <sugoi_payonel> then again, i'm in an irc channel full of people much savvier than myself
L476[16:28:03] <MobiTemi> I should've said for instead of to.
L477[16:28:32] <greaser|q> sugoi_payonel: friendly reminder that you still managed to cut out an arseload of bloat even if you did build upon my stuff ;)
L478[16:28:53] <MobiTemi> But I'm on a phone, on a noisy bus. I can't keep my head clear enough to properly write everything out the first time
L479[16:29:07] <greaser|q> you do have to provide a serial tty interface anyway
L480[16:29:16] <greaser|q> so i emulate it on the C side
L481[16:30:29] <sugoi_payonel> greaser|q: the reason i liked your write method so much is that it really helped me divorce the old methods, and rethink it. i did diverge a lot as i built it out, i had a lot of issues working with cursor movement and wide chars
L482[16:30:37] <sugoi_payonel> but that's all cleaned up now
L483[16:30:43] <greaser|q> welp, time to provide a timer: https://i.imgur.com/5GkqO9b.png
L484[16:31:42] <greaser|q> yep, it's stuck in calibrate_delay
L485[16:47:02] <gamax92> MobiTemi: the way OCSymon communicates is by a serial device
L486[16:47:26] <Stary2001> is that linux what
L487[16:47:31] <MobiTemi> \o/
L488[16:47:46] <gamax92> MobiTemi: where I handle everything like scrolling, backspace, newlines, tabs, beeps, ansi codes in Java
L489[16:48:06] <MobiTemi> Nice :D
L490[16:49:08] <gamax92> but I'm more hyped for MIPS than a 6502 sorry
L491[16:49:37] <gamax92> especially since it's by someone who knows what they're doing
L492[16:50:02] <MobiTemi> aw.
L493[16:50:09] <Stary2001> kek
L494[16:51:01] <gamax92> I failed to figure out how to setup cc65
L495[16:51:28] <MobiTemi> Well, the Javaside code would probably still be useful for anyone implementing serial tty emulation
L496[16:51:47] <gamax92> well I guess that's true
L497[16:52:31] <gamax92> I do need to fix the whole limit reached exception handling though, it just so happens to work fine on the gpu the way I'm doing it
L498[16:52:58] <gamax92> oh yeah, the Java side also handles binding and initializing the gpu for you
L499[16:53:47] <MobiTemi> Hmm.
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L501[16:57:38] <greaser|q> Stary2001: yes, it is most definitely linux
L502[16:58:15] <greaser|q> i'm trying to implement the console interface
L503[16:58:16] * Stary2001 gives greaser|q a cookie
L504[16:58:22] * greaser|q eats it
L505[16:58:41] <greaser|q> because after earlyconsole is done it moves onto the tty
L506[16:58:49] <Stary2001> ahh
L507[16:58:50] <Stary2001> yeah
L508[16:58:51] <Stary2001> gg
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L510[17:00:41] <greaser|q> and once i have a working tty i can then focus on getting the timer working
L511[17:01:53] <Stary2001> fun
L512[17:09:46] <vifino> greaser|q: after you got all that stuff working, since you have the ability to interact with components, you could write a lua c module which allows you to interact with them from lua and run openos in lua on linux in ocmips :D
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L514[17:10:56] <Stary2001> oh god...
L515[17:11:07] <IzayaXMPP> what happened?
L516[17:11:07] <gamax92> the overhead here is intense :P
L517[17:11:12] <gamax92> someone died
L518[17:11:18] <IzayaXMPP> ohok
L519[17:11:24] <greaser|q> vifino: you know i'm going to want to do the obvious "what to run in a computer in minecraft" thing
L520[17:12:06] <vifino> greaser|q: first run openos in lua on linux in ocmips, then the other obvious thing.
L521[17:12:13] <greaser|q> anyway i'll have to find more things to cut out of the kernel... do i really need ext2?
L522[17:12:13] <vifino> but the first thing is awesome and could actually work.
L523[17:12:30] <vifino> depends on what fs you wanna use for your disks.
L524[17:12:31] <IzayaXMPP> btrfs or bust
L525[17:12:42] <greaser|q> ocfs
L526[17:12:42] <gamax92> write a new fs driver that uses managed drives
L527[17:12:56] <greaser|q> hmm, i could possibly make it use fat only for unmanaged
L528[17:13:03] <greaser|q> although then again, permissions
L529[17:13:15] <vifino> I thought it'd use ext2 on unmanaged drives.
L530[17:13:17] <greaser|q> fun fact, you can actually disable multiuser support and just make everything run as root
L531[17:13:18] <vifino> Oh well.
L532[17:13:28] <greaser|q> i have ext2 as the only builtin fs
L533[17:13:54] <vifino> -Os with lto?
L534[17:13:59] <vifino> should make things smaller.
L535[17:14:16] <greaser|q> can you actually LTO the linux kernel?
L536[17:14:34] <Stary2001> hahaha
L537[17:14:38] <vifino> greaser|q: yes.
L538[17:15:05] <vifino> though it requires a couple gigabytes of ram.
L539[17:15:46] <Stary2001> gg
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L541[17:16:28] <vifino> greaser|q: https://lwn.net/Articles/512548/, http://realnc.blogspot.com/2012/06/building-gentoo-linux-with-gcc-47-and.html
L542[17:17:11] * g looks at greaser|q
L543[17:17:17] * g walks up, and whispers in his ear
L544[17:17:19] <vifino> gentoo is love, gentoo is life.
L545[17:17:20] <g> "LUA."
L546[17:17:20] <EnderBot2> Lua*
L547[17:17:21] * g runs
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L550[17:18:03] <CompanionCube> couldn't you basically throw out all of the HDD drivers and stuff?
L551[17:18:47] <greaser|q> yeah probably, i think i'll drop ext2 from the build for the time being
L552[17:18:56] <Stary2001> lol
L553[17:19:03] <CompanionCube> what would you use for a replacement FS
L554[17:19:28] <CompanionCube> A managed-drive based ocfs?
L555[17:20:29] <gamax92> superminimalposixfs
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L557[17:26:53] <Kodos> wat
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L560[17:49:21] <greaser|q> hippopotomonstrosequippedaliaphobiafs
L561[17:49:33] <Kodos> wat
L562[17:51:10] <Nachtara> fear of long words
L563[17:51:20] <greaser|q> fun thing, the largest fs module? procfs.
L564[17:52:07] <vifino> greaser|q: who needs /proc anyways, right? :P
L565[17:52:47] <greaser|q> vifino: if there's some features which can be replicated with symlinks (e.g. /proc/self, mostly /proc/self/exe) then maybe i could drop it
L566[17:53:11] <greaser|q> but i suspect sysfs doesn't cover processes
L567[17:53:33] <vifino> greaser|q: you shouldn't drop it.
L568[17:56:00] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/victorr/jsqueak if I had modding / Architecture writing skills this would be a very interesting VM to integrate as a custom Architecture
L569[17:57:08] <Kasen> would that work with persistence?
L570[17:57:53] <CompanionCube> considering that part of the code literally loads an image of the system from disk, likely
L571[17:59:12] <Kasen> >A SqueakImage represents the complete state of a running Squeak.
L572[17:59:15] <Kasen> ok then
L573[17:59:37] <CompanionCube> yeah, the smalltalk family of implementations tends to have that capability
L574[18:02:16] <CompanionCube> if you want I can post a link to a web-based VM that could show you what you'd likely get from the provided image directly
L575[18:02:25] <Kodos> So uhh
L576[18:02:27] <Kodos> Forge 1.9 soon
L577[18:02:40] <Kodos> As soon as MCP is out for the release version, Forge will be working on updating
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L586[18:39:06] <greaser|q> and now we get up to the next infamous step: https://i.imgur.com/5GkqO9b.png
L587[18:39:13] <greaser|q> wait fuck wrong screenshot
L588[18:39:55] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/Ap1UnXN.png\
L589[18:39:56] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/Ap1UnXN.png
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L591[18:42:24] <Stary2001> nice!
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L594[18:43:24] <greaser|q> yeah fuck it i'm going to need an interrupt
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L596[18:48:22] <MobiTemi> I wonder if there's a more compact POSIX kernel that could be patched for ocMIPS instead. Failing that, hm.
L597[18:48:58] <greaser|q> i have a very minimal kernel that can handle a handful of syscalls
L598[18:49:28] <greaser|q> and if i get the relevant toolchain running with newlib again i should be able to get it going again
L599[18:49:39] <CompanionCube> the very concept of a linux kernel running in a damn video game is awesome enough to do it
L600[18:50:14] <vifino> greaser|q: so you'll have newlib for the kernel and musl for the userspace?
L601[18:50:16] <vifino> sounds great.
L602[18:50:39] <greaser|q> vifino: no, i'll have my own shitty knockoff for the kernel and newlib for the userspace
L603[18:50:53] <vifino> aww :(
L604[18:50:57] <greaser|q> basically, it's too bloody hard to implement mmap2 when the info you get is "hurr durr let's set the length to 0 that's a great idea"
L605[18:51:57] <greaser|q> also fun thing, i had to add a new option to Kconfig:
L606[18:51:59] <greaser|q> HZ_20
L607[18:52:25] <MobiTemi> Because it occurs to me, thinking about it, that a microkernel may be more usable with aggressive memory management.
L608[18:52:41] <MobiTemi> But hm.
L609[18:53:46] <CompanionCube> inb4 port gnu/hurd to ocMIPS
L610[18:53:54] <MobiTemi> I'd have to read up on real life results in--ohgodno
L611[18:54:14] <CompanionCube> or worse
L612[18:54:32] <CompanionCube> vxworks / ntoskrnl
L613[18:55:30] <MobiTemi> fhtsbidgavhe no
L614[18:55:33] <MobiTemi> why
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L616[18:55:51] <MobiTemi> WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
L617[18:56:51] <CompanionCube> would mach be terrible
L618[18:56:53] <CompanionCube> or XNU
L619[18:57:31] <MobiTemi> ... though it would be theoretically possible since NT 3.5 did have a MIPS port
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L621[18:58:26] <gamax92> so much moo
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L623[18:59:26] * gamax92 tosses dusty tumbleweeds to Wiiplay123
L624[18:59:32] <Wiiplay123> hi
L625[18:59:58] <ping> lol
L626[19:00:06] <Wiiplay123> so
L627[19:00:14] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> pong?
L628[19:00:21] <gamax92> Hi welcome to ... MEELOCK NOBAD
L629[19:00:25] <Wiiplay123> ok loading your picture now
L630[19:00:33] <Wiiplay123> Ok what makes this superior?
L631[19:00:41] <Wiiplay123> The amazing text resolution or something more? :D
L632[19:00:43] <ping> oh jeez
L633[19:00:46] <gamax92> Wiiplay123: https://i.imgur.com/Ap1UnXN.png
L634[19:00:46] <Wiiplay123> I see it's running some form of Linux
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L636[19:00:52] <Wiiplay123> yes that image
L637[19:00:54] <ping> Wiiplay123, lets see
L638[19:00:59] <ping> well its a completely different mod
L639[19:01:03] <Saphire> Wiiplay123: linux is coming up soon xd
L640[19:01:13] <Wiiplay123> WAIT A MINUTE
L641[19:01:18] <Wiiplay123> LINUX IS PORTED TO OC?
L642[19:01:23] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> wat
L643[19:01:25] <AlissaSquared> lmao
L644[19:01:27] <Wiiplay123> How does this work please tell me
L645[19:01:30] <AlissaSquared> took you long enough
L646[19:01:36] <AlissaSquared> it's an emulator
L647[19:01:36] <ping> Wiiplay123, it uses lua but people can make their own platforms (python, MIPS (which ppl are using to run linux), etc)
L648[19:01:39] <AlissaSquared> MIPS, to be exact.
L649[19:01:53] <AlissaSquared> wait so it's not Lua emulating MIPS?
L650[19:01:57] <gamax92> no
L651[19:01:59] <Saphire> Nope
L652[19:02:01] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> btw how does bios programing work?
L653[19:02:04] <gamax92> it's Java emulating MIPS
L654[19:02:05] <vifino> greaser|q: why 4.1.13?
L655[19:02:07] <Wiiplay123> how FAST does MIPS work?
L656[19:02:13] <greaser|q> vifino: i have that lying around
L657[19:02:37] <greaser|q> Wiiplay123: my early prototype before transplanting into OC was yielding ~70-100MHz emulated w/ 1 clock per mem access
L658[19:02:39] <ping> Wiiplay123, definitely not native performance lol
L659[19:02:42] <Saphire> Fast enough to run lua binary with ~0.5s response time
L660[19:02:49] <vifino> greaser|q: fair enough, though I'd just grap the 4.4.X ones n stuff. :P
L661[19:02:52] <vifino> grab*
L662[19:02:57] <vifino> wow, i can't speel
L663[19:02:57] <Wiiplay123> Would it be possible to boost the performance with some kind of acceleration?
L664[19:03:09] <gamax92> vifino: grope the 4.4 kernals
L665[19:03:16] <vifino> gamax92: nah.
L666[19:03:20] <ping> Wiiplay123, its certainly no JIT
L667[19:03:21] <Wiiplay123> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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L669[19:03:27] <gamax92> inb4 obvious thing is said by vifino
L670[19:03:27] <ping> so idk what kind of question that is
L671[19:03:35] <greaser|q> do you seriously think a 70MHz MIPS is slow
L672[19:03:43] <Saphire> Wiiplay123: btw.. you can resize screens in OC. Dynamically. From program
L673[19:03:45] <greaser|q> because here's a hint
L674[19:03:47] <greaser|q> it isn't
L675[19:03:47] <vifino> gamax92: well I do have someone to gro.. Yeaaaah. :(
L676[19:04:03] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> hey is bios programing a thing in computercraft, or are they just well bios like in real life
L677[19:04:06] <greaser|q> after all a 16MHz ARM can emulate a 3.57MHz Z80
L678[19:04:14] <greaser|q> as well as the rest of the sega master system hardware
L679[19:04:15] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *opencompuers
L680[19:04:17] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ugg
L681[19:04:20] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> stupid...
L682[19:04:22] <Saphire> Lol
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L684[19:04:29] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *opencomputers
L685[19:04:33] <greaser|q> i think editing bios.lua in CC is like editing machine.lua in OC
L686[19:04:39] <ping> Meelock, the bios in OC is a sandbox, all the sandboxing in CC is done javaside
L687[19:04:49] <ping> so no bios modification in OC
L688[19:04:55] <greaser|q> wait what
L689[19:04:58] <Saphire> But there is eeeprom
L690[19:05:00] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> aww
L691[19:05:04] <ping> eeprom is closest thing
L692[19:05:08] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ok
L693[19:05:10] <gamax92> some sandboxing is done in java but most of it is doine in machine.lua
L694[19:05:13] <Wiiplay123> So can we have an emulated MIPS computer that runs a real OS?
L695[19:05:18] <Wiiplay123> I mean like
L696[19:05:21] <Wiiplay123> well Linux IS a real OS
L697[19:05:22] <gamax92> Wiiplay123: Linux is not a real OS?
L698[19:05:24] <gamax92> :P
L699[19:05:25] <ping> Wiiplay123, he literally did that
L700[19:05:29] <greaser|q> we have EEPROM in OC... it exposes component and computer, and you don't have any of the component.${DEVICE} mirrors
L701[19:05:31] <Wiiplay123> *facepalm*
L702[19:05:33] <CompanionCube> doesn't OC have multiple levels of 'BIOS'
L703[19:05:47] <CompanionCube> there's init.lua, the EEPROM and then at the lowest level machine.lua
L704[19:05:47] <Wiiplay123> Can we port MWM to it
L705[19:05:49] <greaser|q> are you seriously saying that OpenOS is not a "real OS"
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L707[19:06:00] <Wiiplay123> I fail at words
L708[19:06:16] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> then would it be posible to write a addon that adds custom bios' or is the bios in oc just for drivers
L709[19:06:18] <vifino> Wiiplay123: If you suggest windows, no.
L710[19:06:21] <vifino> Just no.
L711[19:06:23] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> *base drivers
L712[19:06:26] <Saphire> Wiiplay123: openos is os that's shipped with oc
L713[19:06:30] <Wiiplay123> Windows is for x86 not MIPS
L714[19:06:44] <Wiiplay123> That was my first idea but then I realised that was a terrible idea
L715[19:06:46] <gamax92> NT once upon a time has MIPS ports
L716[19:06:50] <Saphire> Meelock.. wat
L717[19:06:52] <vifino> Then what do you want? It has linux.
L718[19:06:53] <CompanionCube> medsouz, what are 'drivers' in this sense
L719[19:06:54] <Wiiplay123> .-.
L720[19:06:56] <CompanionCube> *Meelock
L721[19:07:00] <Wiiplay123> a GUI
L722[19:07:09] <gamax92> A GUI is a GUI not an OS
L723[19:07:11] <Saphire> meelock, look at fucking eeeproms
L724[19:07:25] <vifino> gamax92: ffs, did you have to?
L725[19:07:26] <greaser|q> the bios in OC is just there to boot the damn thing
L726[19:07:28] <Wiiplay123> Yeah I still have to get used to Linux as an OS not being defined by its GUI
L727[19:07:36] <Wiiplay123> Like I ran Ubuntu with MWM through SSH and it was cool
L728[19:07:48] <Wiiplay123> X over SSH is cool
L729[19:07:56] <greaser|q> a GUI does NOT make something an OS
L730[19:08:10] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ._. i thought the bios was where the base drivers required to talk to the cpu etc were stored
L731[19:08:12] <Saphire> Wiiplay123: btw.. there is a gui for OpenOS..
L732[19:08:30] <greaser|q> ultimately an OS boils down to "can you run a program within it and provide I/O to it"
L733[19:08:36] <CompanionCube> it is, but obviously in Minecraft things are weird
L734[19:08:37] <Wiiplay123> yep
L735[19:08:40] <vifino> Wiiplay123: Windows' GUI is also not the OS. See: Windows IoT.
L736[19:08:43] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> then what is the bios doing/for
L737[19:08:50] <Wiiplay123> yeah I failed at every computer word ever
L738[19:08:55] <CompanionCube> have a look yourself
L739[19:08:56] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> and why do computers not run with out them
L740[19:08:58] <gamax92> Meelock, stop
L741[19:09:03] <gamax92> Lets reset ourselves
L742[19:09:17] * vifino presses gamax92's bios reset button
L743[19:09:28] <greaser|q> basically the EEPROM is a 4KB space that... well, some robots can take an EEPROM and that's it
L744[19:09:51] <greaser|q> having said that i did make a netboot EEPROM once
L745[19:09:53] <gamax92> Meelock: What are you talking about, IRL computers or OC computers?
L746[19:09:59] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> either?
L747[19:10:01] <Wiiplay123> I'M SOLD
L748[19:10:06] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> idc/idk
L749[19:10:06] <greaser|q> fun fact, the sega master system does not need a bios
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L751[19:10:15] <greaser|q> in fact it's not really a bios
L752[19:10:20] <greaser|q> it's a boot rom
L753[19:10:22] <lashtear> well, neither did NES/famicom
L754[19:10:23] <greaser|q> the games don't touch it
L755[19:10:34] <lashtear> the cartridge had all the rom on it
L756[19:10:37] <gamax92> I though famicom needed one to boot disks
L757[19:10:37] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> but what DOES the bios do?
L758[19:10:46] <lashtear> now the famicom disk system is separate hardware with an 8k bios rom
L759[19:10:50] <Saphire> Things
L760[19:10:56] <Saphire> Loading os mostly
L761[19:10:57] <CompanionCube> take a look yourself
L762[19:11:00] <greaser|q> a bios is a Basic Input/Output System
L763[19:11:05] <CompanionCube> OpenComputers is entirely opensource
L764[19:11:09] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i thought it was a tiny data storage area for basic computer functions
L765[19:11:14] <CompanionCube> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/lua/machine.lua
L766[19:11:19] <Wiiplay123> I love this hologram generator
L767[19:11:28] <Saphire> CompanionCube: not that bios
L768[19:11:31] <CompanionCube> that's the very first code executed by every computer
L769[19:11:34] <greaser|q> by that definition, the BIOS in a PC is not a BIOS because it's not tiny
L770[19:11:48] <gamax92> modern BIOS are not tiny, yeah
L771[19:11:51] <greaser|q> but yeah machine.lua is more like a BIOS, the EEPROM is more like a bootloader
L772[19:12:07] <Saphire> UEFI \o/
L773[19:12:12] <CompanionCube> EEPROM would seem to be something like the MBR/boot sector
L774[19:12:17] <greaser|q> UEFI is a type of BIOS
L775[19:12:56] <greaser|q> this is great, i spent the past few days talking about virtual memory and now we've got everyone explaining to someone what a BIOS is
L776[19:13:06] <gamax92> :P
L777[19:13:12] <Wiiplay123> My PC uses UEFI now
L778[19:13:14] <Wiiplay123> Used to use BIOS
L779[19:13:14] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> basicly what im asking "what is that tiny card on the mother board commonly called the bios for?"
L780[19:13:25] <gamax92> Initializing the computer and then finding something else to boot
L781[19:13:38] <greaser|q> it's called the BIOS because people like to refer to boot ROMs as BIOSes
L782[19:13:43] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> so basicly the boot loader?
L783[19:13:47] <gamax92> no
L784[19:13:49] <greaser|q> yeah it's basically a bootloader
L785[19:13:53] <gamax92> well, okay sure.
L786[19:13:57] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> XD
L787[19:14:01] <greaser|q> but you can put whatever the hell you want on there as long as it fits under 4KB
L788[19:14:08] <lashtear> when you power on most CPUs, they set their PC (and a lot of other stuff) to certain values that cause it to hopefully start executing code from a known, pre-mapped bit of machine code.
L789[19:14:33] <greaser|q> yeah that sounds more like a boot ROM
L790[19:14:33] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> so basic computer function stuff mostly, but if you wanted you could stick a simsons episode there ?
L791[19:14:35] <lashtear> that code will then figure out how to initialize "hardware" and invoke whatever the next stage of bootloader is.
L792[19:14:35] <gamax92> lashtear: well, the top of memory
L793[19:14:42] <lashtear> gamax92, generally, yes.
L794[19:14:47] <lashtear> but not necessarily.
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L796[19:17:49] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ok quick question, who likes undertale here?
L797[19:17:54] <gamax92> eww undertale
L798[19:18:07] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ?
L799[19:18:32] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> welp
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L801[19:18:49] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i guess ill have to go some where else with more emo nerds...
L802[19:18:56] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> heh
L803[19:18:58] * Dashkal obsessed about it for awhile and has left it behind
L804[19:19:04] <greaser|q> fun thing, OCMIPS does not technically have a BIOS (yes, i know i called it the MIPS ELF BIOS despite it being a boot ROM)
L805[19:19:06] <Dashkal> Though I still listen to the soundtrack all the time.
L806[19:19:28] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i have alphis' theme stuck in my head
L807[19:19:45] <Dashkal> Another Medium remains my favourite track.
L808[19:19:56] <greaser|q> MIPS systems typically shove the ROM at the top of memory because that's roughly where the entry point is
L809[19:20:06] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i like metal crusher
L810[19:20:09] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> :3
L811[19:20:15] <greaser|q> in my case i just set up a jump vector and make it jump to 0xA0001000 (or 0x00001000 in physmem)
L812[19:20:27] <Dashkal> Also ASGORE.
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L814[19:21:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Nachtara, you are the worse! :P
L815[19:21:53] <Nachtara> why
L816[19:21:57] <Nachtara> worst*
L817[19:22:06] <DeanIsaKitty> That's why ^ :P
L818[19:22:38] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> heh
L819[19:23:07] <Nachtara> what is meelock?
L820[19:24:19] <Wiiplay123> What's this 3D printer thing
L821[19:24:32] <DeanIsaKitty> It's a 3D-printer
L822[19:24:49] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> heh
L823[19:24:56] <gamax92> you can make blocks with custom models
L824[19:24:58] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> your plastic gun is finished sir
L825[19:25:02] <gamax92> like a companion gun
L826[19:25:03] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> brrrrt
L827[19:25:04] <gamax92> ... cube
L828[19:25:29] <Wiiplay123> ooooh
L829[19:25:31] <Saphire> XD
L830[19:25:32] <Wiiplay123> Sounds fun c:
L831[19:25:35] *** g is now known as gAway2002
L832[19:25:47] <Saphire> Or fences out of "gold"
L833[19:26:35] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i like my oil shaken not stired
L834[19:26:37] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> brrt
L835[19:26:50] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> rrrrt rrrt rrrt rrrrrrt
L836[19:27:00] <Saphire> (Note: not really a gold but just a texture that makes it look like gold
L837[19:29:52] <Saphire> Meelock: oh gosh, why
L838[19:30:16] <Saphire> I now can hear that gun <_<
L839[19:33:25] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Go the fuck to sleep.
L840[19:33:56] <gamax92> Sleep is for the strong?
L841[19:34:01] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Shut the fuck up you're not my dad
L842[19:34:03] <vifino> gamax92: Exactly.
L843[19:34:20] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Oh, did your mother not tell you?
L844[19:34:22] <vifino> :P
L845[19:34:38] <vifino> But seriously, why are you up so late?
L846[19:34:58] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: I could ask you the same question, couldn't I?
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L848[19:35:19] <Saphire> Oh fuck, my ears
L849[19:35:27] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: But I am an idiot and irresponsible.
L850[19:35:52] <Saphire> alarm on phone went off.. WITH HEADPHONES CONNECTED
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L854[19:37:51] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> btw saphire the rrrrrt rrrrrt rrrrrt rrrrrt was me 3d printing your prototype 2 gun
L855[19:37:59] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> its done now
L856[19:38:02] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> rt
L857[19:38:04] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> rrrt
L858[19:38:06] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> clunk
L859[19:38:29] * Saphire grabs the gun, loads it and shoots in random direction
L860[19:38:43] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> hey can you imagne a future where 3d printers are like vending machienes
L861[19:38:46] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> :3
L862[19:39:22] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ^tem face
L863[19:39:29] <gamax92> no.
L864[19:39:43] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> yes
L865[19:39:46] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> i can
L866[19:39:47] <gamax92> it's just a cat face, is not owned by tem and has existed for several time longer than undertail
L867[19:39:49] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> ?
L868[19:40:09] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> yay i prefer overtails though
L869[19:40:25] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> there better (sorry for correcting you)
L870[19:41:04] <vifino> wtf.
L871[19:42:41] <Wiiplay123> I got an idea on how to improve the color density of Tier 2 hologram projectors
L872[19:42:54] <gamax92> Wiiplay123: install openglasses instead?
L873[19:42:58] <Wiiplay123> Nope
L874[19:43:10] <Wiiplay123> Have one voxel model for three colors, another for another three colors, etc
L875[19:43:14] <Wiiplay123> And switch between them really fast
L876[19:47:33] <Wiiplay123> Other fun ideas: Compile X server and sshd to OC
L877[19:47:57] <Wiiplay123> Then run X over SSH to do graphics stuff without any monitor in Minecraft required
L878[19:50:21] <greaser|q> once this build has finished i get to see if this bloody interrupt controller works
L879[19:51:49] <Saphire> :D
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L881[19:52:15] <CompanionCube> Wiiplay123, technically you only need to run X over SSH if you give a fuck about security
L882[19:52:29] <Wiiplay123> .-.
L883[19:52:30] <CompanionCube> XDMCP is a thing :p
L884[19:53:01] <Saphire> Wiiplay123: search youtube by "btm 2016 ending keynote"
L885[19:53:21] <Saphire> Or was it "BTM16"? *shrug*
L886[19:53:24] <greaser|q> btm16
L887[19:53:29] <Saphire> Yup
L888[19:53:41] <Saphire> .yt btm16 ending keynote
L889[19:53:45] <Saphire> Awww
L890[19:53:53] <Saphire> .g lmgtfy
L891[19:53:59] <greaser|q> that's the closest we have to MC in MC and it's not actually running within MC
L892[19:54:08] <Saphire> ^
L893[19:54:19] <gamax92> ~yt btm16 ending keynote
L894[19:54:19] <ocdoc> I'm not a youtube bot.
L895[19:54:25] <Saphire> xD
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L897[19:54:56] <Saphire> #yt btm16 ending keynote
L898[19:55:02] <Saphire> %yt btm16 ending keynote
L899[19:55:02] <ocdoc> That's also not youtube
L900[19:55:03] <MichiBot> Saphire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRkKgaHzWWE - BTM 2016: Ending Keynote - YouTube: "Jan 3, 2016 ... Better than Minecon 2016, Ending Keynote #BTM16 - Duration: 32:49. Das Flip
L901[19:55:10] <Saphire> Gotcha
L902[19:55:18] <Wiiplay123> hey ocdoc are you going to fight manspider
L903[19:55:39] <Saphire> #yt ocdoc
L904[19:55:44] <Saphire> Meh
L905[20:05:59] <vifino> Saphire: here it is too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5AJ4LN2lU
L906[20:06:01] <MichiBot> vifino: Ending Keynote (asie) @ #BetterThanMinecon | length: 9m 24s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 12 | by vifino
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L909[20:11:42] <Saphire> >by vifinp
L910[20:11:46] <Saphire> *o
L911[20:11:57] <Saphire> Did you just uploaded that? :D
L912[20:12:02] <Saphire> Sorry
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L914[20:12:32] * Temia tinymoos, flops on Saph's head. =x=
L915[20:17:05] * Saphire meeps as something lands onto her and pats Temia then
L916[20:21:54] <Wiiplay123> So could we port X window server to OCLights2
L917[20:21:55] <Wiiplay123> :3
L918[20:22:22] <IzayaXMPP> long time no see Wiiplay123
L919[20:22:26] <Wiiplay123> hi
L920[20:24:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Wiiplay123 has been here before?
L921[20:26:36] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> was that a open server?
L922[20:26:46] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> as in if i knew about it could i have joined?
L923[20:26:57] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> or was it like, patrons only?
L924[20:27:46] <gamax92> too much sugar x_x;
L925[20:27:47] <IzayaXMPP> DeanIsaKitty: Quite a while ago, had a server
L926[20:29:22] <DeanIsaKitty> IzayaXMPP: Oh ok
L927[20:37:45] <vifino> Good news, everyone!
L928[20:38:10] <vifino> |0xDEADBEEF| now runs with rubinius again. Should be a tad bit faster.
L929[20:38:23] <vifino> #>> require "table_flipper"
L930[20:38:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > true
L931[20:38:30] * vifino coughs
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L934[20:42:48] <greaser|q> ok this interrupt code is getting really irritating
L935[20:45:34] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> btw what is deadbeef?
L936[20:46:43] <vifino> Meelock: Magic.
L937[20:46:58] <malcom2073> It's hex for oops
L938[20:47:06] <malcom2073> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexspeak
L939[20:48:29] <greaser|q> aaaaand fuck yes
L940[20:48:35] <greaser|q> it's now panicing on...
L941[20:48:45] <greaser|q> ...the fact that it can't mount root
L942[20:48:51] <Antheus> :P
L943[20:49:15] <greaser|q> what this means is i now need to set up a root fs and shit like that
L944[20:50:33] <Saphire> :D
L945[20:50:54] <Saphire> ext fs for OC! Yay
L946[21:01:46] <Wiiplay123> I don't remember being here before but I might have just forgotten
L947[21:04:37] <greaser|q> apparently i forgot to link the screenshot
L948[21:04:38] <greaser|q> https://i.imgur.com/yGj2hLZ.png
L949[21:09:14] <gamax92> greaser|q: 39.81 BogoMIPS! impressive speed
L950[21:09:28] <greaser|q> gamax92: well yeah i kinda set the emulated clock speed to about 40MHz
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L952[21:17:12] <Antheus> I love using the 24 hour clock
L953[21:17:19] <Antheus> so much nicer than the 12hr
L954[21:18:01] * Dashkal wishes the metric clock would catch on
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L956[21:24:07] <gamax92> fak
L957[21:24:18] <gamax92> forgot to watch the oatmeal, spilled out everywhere and left a mess
L958[21:25:12] <AlissaSquared> "here are the available partitions:"
L959[21:25:14] <AlissaSquared> <none>
L960[21:25:17] <AlissaSquared> kekekekekekekekekek
L961[21:25:28] <`-`> > booting linux
L962[21:25:37] <`-`> Welp, ARM will never get to that point XD
L963[21:25:39] <gamax92> `-`: Something you couldn't do
L964[21:25:52] <`-`> gamax92: I don't have time for your shit today
L965[21:25:59] <`-`> Go eat a dick
L966[21:26:37] <gamax92> `-`: You can't hide from your failures forever
L967[21:26:37] <`-`> Anyways, what I was going to say is there are too many CPU bugs that may still be laying around for me to boot anything that actually doesn't anything serious
L968[21:26:45] <`-`> s/doesn't/does
L969[21:26:46] <MichiBot> <`-`> Anyways, what I was going to say is there are too many CPU bugs that may still be laying around for me to boot anything that actually does anything serious
L970[21:27:09] <`-`> gamax92: I guess I'll just not release the ARM arch
L971[21:27:11] <`-`> bitch.
L972[21:27:26] <gamax92> nuuu :<
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L978[21:55:27] <Meelock (Meelock/meelock)> <-> you have a weird name XD
L979[22:03:34] <Temia> Izaya's?
L980[22:03:42] <gamax92> `-`'s
L981[22:03:44] <Temia> Oh.
L982[22:03:54] <gamax92> `'s are special in discord, forget what they do
L983[22:04:02] <Mimiru> markdown
L984[22:04:17] *** medsouz|offline is now known as medsouz
L985[22:04:25] <Temia> I just think of it as the Tunod face(TM), but injokes
L986[22:04:38] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/DiscordPTB_2016-02-29_22-04-18.png
L987[22:04:43] <Mimiru> they do that
L988[22:05:26] <Mimiru> `-`'s name is actually http://michi.pc-logix.com/hexchat_2016-02-29_22-05-00.png
L989[22:06:17] <Temia> And here I'm reminded that nothing does IRC better than an IRC client `-`
L990[22:06:42] <AlissaSquared> nothing does IRC better than telnet :3
L991[22:06:50] * AlissaSquared flops on Temia :3
L992[22:06:54] <Temia> 'tis the truth.
L993[22:06:55] <`-`> I feel... popular
L994[22:06:56] * Temia smoosh.
L995[22:07:10] <AlissaSquared> 'sup ^-^
L996[22:07:20] <Temia> tiiired. x.x
L997[22:07:28] <gamax92> and fluffy
L998[22:07:43] <Mimiru> So this weekend I'm going to release a gimped ass version of the display panel... Assuming I have time to work on it
L999[22:08:53] * AlissaSquared offers Temia a bed.
L1000[22:09:31] * Temia climbs into the covers face-first. doesn't bother turning around. Just sleeps as a cowtailed blanketlump.
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L1002[22:16:10] <`-`> Mimiru: Sorry :<
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L1005[22:23:48] <Izaya> I have been summoned
L1006[22:24:41] <Izaya> Oh
L1007[22:24:43] <Izaya> okay
L1008[22:24:59] * Izaya has been unsummoned
L1009[22:26:27] <greaser|q> ...i have decided to stick with unmanaged-mode FAT for now
L1010[22:26:34] <greaser|q> managed will come later
L1011[22:29:34] <gamax92> greaser|q: permissions overlay on top of FAT?
L1012[22:29:43] <Temia> Surely there's something that isn't too bulky but still has the full set of POSIX access control
L1013[22:29:44] <greaser|q> gamax92: i'll just have to cross my fingers with that
L1014[22:30:08] <greaser|q> Temia: oddly enough FAT and ext2 use a similar amount of space afaik
L1015[22:31:18] <Temia> Ah. o.o
L1016[22:31:26] <Temia> I mean more on the kernel driver side of things.
L1017[22:31:47] <greaser|q> that's what i mean
L1018[22:31:51] <Temia> Oh. .-.
L1019[22:31:54] <greaser|q> i did not mean that the structures used the same amount of space
L1020[22:32:40] <Temia> Weird. I'dve thought FAT would be one of the more lightweight filesystem implementations.
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L1022[22:39:00] <greaser|q> you'd think but the FAT driver does have a lot of weird optimisations i think
L1023[22:45:36] <Wiiplay123> So gamax92 have you made Linux graphics drivers for OCLights2 yet :P
L1024[22:46:22] <gamax92> no but I did write a FAT12/16 filesystem driver for OpenOS
L1025[22:46:49] <Wiiplay123> can't wait for MWM in OpenComputers
L1026[22:46:55] <gamax92> what is
L1027[22:47:15] <Wiiplay123> Motif Window Manager
L1028[22:47:43] <Wiiplay123> It's what I liked to use in X over SSH tests
L1029[22:48:03] <Wiiplay123> run MWM on thin client PC booted into basic X and xterm
L1030[22:48:15] <Wiiplay123> run CPU-intensive things on Ubuntu VM on Windows 7 PC
L1031[22:50:04] <gamax92> F0F0F0 1A1A1A
L1032[22:50:06] <gamax92> don't mind me
L1033[22:51:37] <greaser|q> F0 0F C7 C8
L1034[22:51:53] <gamax92> fooooooooof
L1035[22:52:04] * AlissaSquared foofs gamax92
L1036[22:52:11] <gamax92> ;-;
L1037[22:52:21] * greaser|q floofs gamax92
L1038[22:53:54] <gamax92> greaser|q: I somehow for the longest time, had a bug in my FAT driver that ... basically made the thing entirely useless, wasn't sure when it appeared though
L1039[22:56:13] <Temia> Please don't foof Gamax
L1040[22:56:33] <Temia> You know how hard it is to do software workarounds for wetware bugs D:
L1041[22:56:57] <gamax92> there's a visited like table when reading cluster chains, to prevent looping clusters and such
L1042[22:57:30] <gamax92> except I would put the first cluster number into it and then immediately check if it were set to true and then quit, not reading the rest of the chain
L1043[23:01:11] * AlissaSquared foofs Temia instead then
L1044[23:03:00] <gamax92> there was also an ironic bug in remove, where when I go to update the FAT tables, I forgot to seek to them, and end up writing them past the directory entry, trashing the rest of the entiries and whatever clusters laid beyond
L1045[23:04:07] <Izaya> Wiiplay123: have you any idea how hard it is to compile CDE on modern systems?
L1046[23:04:17] <Wiiplay123> CDE?
L1047[23:04:50] <Wiiplay123> Motif Window Manager runs perfectly fine on Ubuntu
L1048[23:05:31] <AlissaSquared> GNOME/GDM ftw
L1049[23:05:36] * AlissaSquared runs :D
L1050[23:05:48] <Wiiplay123> Can the ingame MIPS processor handle GNOME?
L1051[23:06:11] <Izaya> Common Desktop Envirknment
L1052[23:06:25] <Izaya> ie the thing MWM is a part of
L1053[23:06:39] <Izaya> though we have fvwm so mwm is unneccesary
L1054[23:07:39] <Wiiplay123> I love the look of MWM
L1055[23:08:47] <Izaya> I don't have any screenshots of my fvwm but take a look at some IRIX screenshots, I tried to mimic 4dwm (the SGI mwm fork)
L1056[23:09:50] <Wiiplay123> Can we take what MWM looks like, and add more greek/roman busts and pink?
L1057[23:09:54] <Wiiplay123> Maybe some VHS?
L1058[23:10:16] <Wiiplay123> And slowed down music with slow vibrato
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