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L5[00:01:39] <Kodos> gamax92: I just need a simple check to make sure a program is being ran on 5.3
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L7[00:02:00] <Kodos> I was going to use a check to see if >> resolves, but I figured I'd do it properly
L8[00:02:11] <gamax92> Kodos: _VERSION is better for that since it's lua's way of specifically saying Hey, I'm 5.2 or 5.3 or whatever
L9[00:02:31] <gamax92> you can do what plan9k does and forces your process to 5.3 :P
L10[00:02:40] <Kodos> What will 5.3 return, specifically, so I can set it up to just error out if it's the wrong arch
L11[00:02:48] <Kodos> I'm not familiar enough with it to use p9k
L12[00:02:53] <gamax92> "Lua 5.3"
L13[00:02:56] <Kodos> Mkay
L14[00:03:15] <gamax92> Kodos: it's just doing setArchitecture("Lua 5.3") or something like that
L15[00:03:29] <gamax92> which if it's 5.2, sets it to 5.3 and reboots the computer, and if it's 5.3, does nothing and continues
L16[00:03:38] <Kodos> So just 'if _VERSION ~= "Lua 5.3" then io.stderr:write("Wrong architecture")
L17[00:03:39] <Kodos> ?
L18[00:03:48] <gamax92> that'll work, sure
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L20[00:08:45] <Kodos> k
L21[00:08:56] <Kodos> I was gonna use error, but levels are weird
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L26[00:16:33] <Sharidan> io.stderr:write() only writes an error message. it doesnt terminate execution?
L27[00:20:50] <Kodos> It should terminate, since it's erroring
L28[00:21:01] <sugoi> um no
L29[00:21:05] <Sharidan> it doesnt terminate
L30[00:21:21] <sugoi> error() should write to stderr and terminate
L31[00:21:30] <Sharidan> it does
L32[00:21:34] <sugoi> writing to stderr should NOT terminate
L33[00:22:40] <Kodos> Maybe test it? I would but I'm literally getting ready to walk out the door
L34[00:22:44] <Kodos> I need to get groceries before the snow hits
L35[00:22:59] <sugoi> this is definitely how it works for openos 1.6
L36[00:23:14] <sugoi> when i say "should" what i mean is "what is proper"
L37[00:23:24] <Sharidan> io.stderr:write() just writes an error message without stack trace and does not terminate
L38[00:23:38] <Sharidan> error() writes the error message and the stack trace, then terminates
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L40[00:35:29] <sugoi> #lua unicode
L41[00:35:29] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L42[00:35:36] <sugoi> #lua utf8
L43[00:35:36] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L44[00:35:48] <sugoi> #lua require
L45[00:35:49] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > nil
L46[00:35:51] <sugoi> bah
L47[00:35:59] <Sharidan> having fun? :)
L48[00:36:06] <sugoi> :)
L49[00:36:19] <Kodos> #lua return _VERSION
L50[00:36:24] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Lua 5.3 Sandbox
L51[00:36:41] <Sharidan> #lua return 2+2=5
L52[00:36:46] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: <eof> expected near '='
L53[00:36:52] <Sharidan> nice :P
L54[00:36:55] <Sharidan> #lua return 2+2==5
L55[00:36:56] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > false
L56[00:37:10] <Kodos> What I'd really like to learn, is how to do the bitshifting for having a color gradient on things like light boards, openlights, and colorful lamps
L57[00:38:08] <Sharidan> bitshifting is not that difficult Kodos
L58[00:38:17] <Kodos> Sharidan: I didnt' think it would be
L59[00:38:28] <Kodos> But I'm not really good with math, like at all
L60[00:38:31] <Sharidan> 00001000 = 8 bits
L61[00:38:38] <Kodos> I had a really shitty high school
L62[00:38:53] <Kodos> Social studies generally amounted to a movie
L63[00:38:53] <sugoi> we didn't study bit shifting at all in HS
L64[00:39:22] <Sharidan> nah, non-standard numerals are not usually part of standard school education
L65[00:39:23] <Kodos> sugoi, if my HS did, I wouldn't know. I was in an alternative education center for years 10-12
L66[00:39:51] <Kodos> If it helps any, I know how to read a binary clock
L67[00:40:18] <Sharidan> shifting bits is litterally just moving the entire set either left or right a number of positions
L68[00:40:29] <sugoi> tbh, if binary bit shifting skills really mattered :) it'd a be a weird world
L69[00:40:39] <Sharidan> true! heh
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L71[00:41:59] <Kodos> While we're on weird subjects, how do I know which level to point an error at
L72[00:43:26] <sugoi> which level to point an error at?
L73[00:43:51] <Kodos> ~w error
L74[00:43:52] <ocdoc> http://www.lua.org/manual/5.2/manual.html#pdf-error
L75[00:44:09] <Kodos> Which level to call it with?
L76[00:44:20] <Kodos> I've seen some people use the parameter, and some that don't
L77[00:44:43] <Sharidan> Kodos: maybe this will help you figuring it out: http://www.lua.org/pil/8.5.html
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L79[00:47:30] <Sharidan> argh - hate these complex choices :/
L80[00:48:03] <Kodos> So basically level 2 = debug.traceback?
L81[00:48:10] <Kodos> Or am I overthinking it
L82[00:48:54] <Sharidan> I might be wrong about this, but the way I understand it, it's a matter of how deep your function calls are
L83[00:49:19] <Sharidan> first function calls second, calls third, calls forth = level 5
L84[00:49:26] <Sharidan> since lua is top-level
L85[00:50:34] <Sharidan> main purpose is the ability to properly trace back through the stack so you can figure out exactly where in the call chain things went wrong
L86[00:51:10] <Kodos> http://imgur.com/2SMePoL
L87[00:51:24] <Sharidan> lol
L88[00:52:25] <Kodos> Right. I'm just gonna go back to my other project (Getting a keypad working for code entry to a door)
L89[00:52:34] <Sharidan> well then maybe you can help me solve the problem I'm facing
L90[00:52:42] <Kodos> I can sure try
L91[00:52:57] <Sharidan> I'm working on my UI library
L92[00:53:32] <Sharidan> main object in the UI library is the desktop object, which acts as both GPU binder and container object for what ever UI controls you want to have displayed
L93[00:54:05] <Sharidan> if you have more than one GPU in the computer, you can create multiple desktop objects; one for each GPU - and use each to render different things
L94[00:54:17] <Sharidan> right now I'm about to implement theme support, for color changes
L95[00:54:51] <Kodos> I have a feeling I won't be much help with the issue, unless you're in need of a color scheme
L96[00:54:52] <Sharidan> I just can't figure out if I should do the theme support globally for all desktop objects or if I should place the theme support locally in each desktop object
L97[00:55:08] <Sharidan> the latter would then enable you to have different color sets for each GPU
L98[00:55:23] <Kodos> How hard would the latter be?
L99[00:56:10] <Sharidan> no more difficult than doing theme support in the first place, though it would require more memory to run say 2 theme instances for 2 desktop objects vs. 1 theme for both
L100[00:56:43] <Kodos> Well, from the sound of it, they'll already need a higher end machine (Within the scope of OC, that is) to use your library, so I see no reason not to support dual themes
L101[00:56:47] <Kodos> Or how many ever
L102[00:57:16] <Sharidan> for the most part, people will most likely only run one instance of the desktop object for their apps
L103[00:57:41] <Sharidan> I don't think multi graphics card setups are that common tbh
L104[00:57:48] <Kodos> Right, but something I immediately thought of was having a primary window that I edit something in, and have a secondary window that acts as the output
L105[00:58:17] <Sharidan> work screen and presentation screen?
L106[00:58:32] <Kodos> That's one example, yeah
L107[00:58:37] <Sharidan> remember that each desktop object you create, is capable of binding to a separate GPU with a seperate screen
L108[00:59:21] <Kodos> Exactly, so you could do a one block screen for work/input, and a 4x3 screen for output
L109[00:59:31] <Sharidan> yup
L110[00:59:42] <Kodos> You also just reminded me of something I wanted to test
L111[00:59:43] <Sharidan> alright, I'll put the theme handler in the desktop object
L112[01:01:24] <Kodos> Lol, the mnt folder for my OpenOS HDD is 404
L113[01:01:44] <Sharidan> lol
L114[01:01:51] <Sharidan> hdd not found?! lol
L115[01:02:49] <Kodos> Now I just need to find that damn button 3dm file I had
L116[01:03:05] <Sharidan> ugh .. I just realized that I'll have to post some documentation for this lib
L117[01:03:29] <Kodos> I honestly prefer commented code to actual docs
L118[01:03:42] <Kodos> I can simultaneously read the code, and get what it does explained to me
L119[01:03:52] <Kodos> Being able to actually look at the physical process of what's being explained to me helps
L120[01:04:28] <Sharidan> well, with a library this big it would probably double the file size adding in that amount of documentation
L121[01:04:47] <Sharidan> I've got ~20 controls planned for it - maybe more
L122[01:09:27] <Kodos> Ugh
L123[01:09:28] <Kodos> Fuck Oppm
L124[01:09:30] <Kodos> seriously
L125[01:09:40] <Kodos> It crashes every damn time on the print3d examples
L126[01:09:52] <Kodos> Vex claims it's my internet being slow, but that's bullshit
L127[01:10:27] <Cruor> Kodos: less internet, more invention :I
L128[01:10:52] <Kodos> Cruor: Lolno, I don't have the funds. And I have no interest in playing because all the gear that I wanted to buy back super cheap spiked because of invention
L129[01:10:58] <Kodos> So even if I had my 100m back, it wouldn't do shit
L130[01:11:18] <Cruor> i went to all the rune stores yesterday
L131[01:11:22] <Cruor> bought all the cheap things
L132[01:11:31] <Cruor> sold 5.3k fire runes for 1.1m
L133[01:11:36] <Cruor> 10/10, would invention again
L134[01:11:45] <Kodos> I'm too tired to math, how much ea is that
L135[01:11:49] <Cruor> (got them for like 100k)
L136[01:11:58] <Kodos> Jesus
L137[01:12:05] <Cruor> thats like, 12m gp/h
L138[01:12:22] <Kodos> Assuming stock keeps up
L139[01:12:33] <Cruor> assuming you do it daily :p
L140[01:13:21] <Cruor> Kodos: you can get like... 1.6k as a free2pleb
L141[01:13:25] <Cruor> iirc
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L143[01:18:51] <Kodos> brb reformatting this into a proper 3dm file
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L145[01:20:28] <Kodos> I need a nice industrial gray, without looking too dark
L146[01:21:20] <Sharidan> grab a shade from one of the bigreactor textures maybe?
L147[01:25:49] <Kodos> https://gyazo.com/a53f07fbb0798cb4c6f624ae4273ab72 Found it =D
L148[01:26:08] <Sharidan> nice :)
L149[01:26:39] <Kodos> print3d-view is a wonderful thing
L150[01:27:16] <Kodos> Ended up going with 0x444444
L151[01:28:28] <Kodos> Annnd iron doors still suck with 3D printed levers
L152[01:29:03] <Kodos> At least a piece of red alloy wire on the backside fixes it
L153[01:29:47] <Saphire> Heh
L154[01:35:40] <Kodos> I had an idea for another button, but I am too tired to code the 3dm atm
L155[01:45:06] <xarses> is there a way for me to instantiate gpu so that I can bind different ones to different screens? or do I have to change it each time I want to update a screen?
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L158[01:47:03] <Sharidan> local gpu1 = component.proxy("addr"); local gpu2 = component.proxy("addr2")
L159[01:48:00] <Sharidan> if you have more than one physical screen connected to a single graphics card, you'll have to swap screens
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L162[02:00:33] <v^> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
L163[02:00:33] <v^> xorg
L164[02:00:36] <v^> ,_,
L165[02:00:56] <xarses> did you get the new one instead?
L166[02:01:08] <v^> im running x right now
L167[02:01:10] <xarses> erm wayland?
L168[02:01:15] <xarses> or something like that
L169[02:01:24] <v^> nvidia drivers dont even have wayland support yet
L170[02:01:37] <v^> > yet
L171[02:01:42] <v^> more like ever
L172[02:01:46] <xarses> well, your meta package probably picked it
L173[02:02:52] <xarses> ah, ubuntu will probably force it
L174[02:03:24] <xarses> I know my last update sid pushed wayland to me, but I didn't switch to it
L175[02:03:27] <Saphire> Well..
L176[02:03:48] <Saphire> Gonna poke aur
L177[02:42:37] <asie> Sangar: HE LIVES
L178[02:44:27] <Saphire> WHO?
L179[02:48:34] * CompanionCube is lucky enough to use a DE that supports wayland
L180[02:48:43] <CompanionCube> as for my GPU, I wouldn't know
L181[02:48:51] <asie> wayblah
L182[02:50:44] <CompanionCube> Somewhat counterintuitively, Edge actually records browsing history in InPrivate mode. More than this, by examining the WebCache file it is a relatively simple task for someone to reconstruct full browsing history, regardless of whether surfing was performed in regular or InPrivate mode.
L183[02:50:52] <CompanionCube> Fail.
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L186[03:10:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: With those wings and those puny little control surfaces that plane of course won't turn. Also move the Center of Drag on the Center of Mass
L187[03:12:09] <Shuudoushi> I still have yet to figure out how the piss to make a helicopter that doesn't instantly go into a death spin the second you give it some power...
L188[03:13:42] <Shuudoushi> DeanIsaKitty: eh, I'm re doing it as a bomber, it's stable enough to make a great platform for it at least
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L190[03:16:30] <Shuudoushi> hi sugoi_
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L192[03:18:23] <Shuudoushi> this engine overkill? pretty sure this engine is overkill. http://puu.sh/mRDVB/5f1149e9ec.png
L193[03:21:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: Not in atmosphere :P
L194[03:22:34] <Shuudoushi> it is, by far, the most powerful engine I've in my currently installed mods lol
L195[03:23:21] <Shuudoushi> I'm going to see how long it take BDArmorys AI to put this thing in the ground lol
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L197[03:25:37] <Shuudoushi> somehow, kinda at least, it's not crashing yet
L198[03:26:50] <Shuudoushi> there it goes! http://puu.sh/mREeJ/58b3ac6065.png
L199[03:29:38] <Shuudoushi> lol, yep, those engines are WAY~~ too much for that little jet
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L209[04:35:19] <Sandra> oh my goodness, apparently deleting the pre-update version of windows frees up >half my disk.
L210[04:36:45] <Sandra> i.e. 17GB!
L211[04:37:02] <DeanIsaKitty> How tiny is your disk? <.>
L212[04:37:18] <g> irta dick
L213[04:38:00] <Sandra> DeanIsaKitty, 32GB.
L214[04:38:10] <Sandra> of eMMC! :P
L215[04:39:41] <Sandra> now.... the choice is do I install Dark Souls, or Bioshock......
L216[04:42:18] <Sandra> huh? does win10 compress memory now or somthing.
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L218[04:59:36] <Saphire> ?
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L225[05:29:24] <DeanIsaKitty> You know your USB headset is toast when it single-handedly can take out your USB kmod on Linux. <.<
L226[05:31:55] <asie> i had a USB pendrive once
L227[05:31:58] <asie> a dog bit it hard
L228[05:32:01] <asie> it got this weird property
L229[05:32:05] <asie> when you plugged it into a Windows machine
L230[05:32:10] <asie> the entire machine would crash for as long as it was plugged in
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L232[05:32:19] <asie> it was essentially the USB "magic/more magic" switch
L233[05:32:24] <asie> after a year it fixed itself tho
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L243[06:24:01] <Magik6k> o/
L244[06:24:54] <Sharidan> o/ Magik6k
L245[06:25:27] <Magik6k> Sangar, like the floppy disk(refernig to https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/1454329509.png)
L246[06:25:48] <Magik6k> S3, was that you making partition table for OC?
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L249[06:27:08] * vifino groans and flops on Lizzy
L250[06:27:25] * Lizzy pets vifino
L251[06:27:35] * vifino purrs
L252[06:28:05] * Lizzy is waiting for her pc to do updates so she can shut it down to move drives about
L253[06:30:26] * Sharidan hands vifino a cup of fresh coffee
L254[06:30:37] <vifino> woo
L255[06:30:40] * vifino sips
L256[06:30:53] <Sharidan> enjoy - it's the last I have
L257[06:31:06] <vifino> :(
L258[06:31:07] <Sharidan> going shopping later tho :)
L259[06:31:20] <vifino> woo
L260[06:31:43] * Lizzy stomach groans
L261[06:31:50] * Lizzy noms on vifino
L262[06:31:54] <vifino> aaah
L263[06:32:04] * vifino nibbles on Lizzy in return
L264[06:32:14] * Sharidan offers Lizzy a turkey sandwich
L265[06:32:41] * Lizzy stops nomming vifino, accepts Sharidan's turkey sandwhich and noms on that instead
L266[06:32:54] <Sharidan> :)
L267[06:33:01] <Sharidan> maybe vifino will last the day, this way :)
L268[06:33:08] * DeanIsaKitty puts on hipster glasses and starts sipping on a pumpkin spiced latte
L269[06:33:37] <Sharidan> ok the hipster glasses I can follow, but pumpkin spiced latte? seriously? :P
L270[06:33:42] * vifino puts on "the fuck yo doin'?" tshirt and walks over to DeanIsaKitty
L271[06:34:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Shuudoushi: I have some ugg boots too :P
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L273[06:34:28] <vifino> Wrong person :P
L274[06:34:36] * Sharidan hands DeanIsaKitty a pink belt
L275[06:34:52] <DeanIsaKitty> <.<
L276[06:35:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Also irssi, cyan is a color, NOT A PREFIX >.<
L277[06:35:15] <vifino> ahahahaha
L278[06:35:23] <Sharidan> lol
L279[06:35:29] <DeanIsaKitty> "13:34 cyan * Sharidan hands DeanIsaKitty a pink belt" Seriously irssi <.<
L280[06:35:36] <Lizzy> lol
L281[06:35:53] <Sharidan> rofl
L282[06:36:13] <vifino> I'm not sure if this is really cyan, but here you go, DeanIsaKitty! :D
L283[06:36:42] <DeanIsaKitty> <.<
L284[06:36:51] <Lizzy> dammit, looks like cygwin didn't make it across the upgrade
L285[06:36:54] <Lizzy> oh well
L286[06:36:58] * DeanIsaKitty slaps irssi around a bit
L287[06:36:58] * EnderBot2 high-fives DeanIsaKitty
L288[06:37:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, now it works. ^^
L289[06:37:45] * Sharidan wonders what he did to deserve cyan as a prefix
L290[06:37:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: Highlights ^^
L291[06:38:05] <Sharidan> uh,uh,uh - can I haz cyan servermode plx? :D
L292[06:38:07] <Sharidan> lol
L293[06:38:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Although cyan is probably the worst idea, just about everything in my irssi is cyan already
L294[06:39:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Irssi should support 32 bit color depth. I want pink highlights ^^
L295[06:39:08] <vifino> how fancy is your irssi, DeanIsaKitty? :P
L296[06:39:15] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Not as fancy as my vim
L297[06:39:20] <vifino> heheh
L298[06:39:43] <vifino> helloes to you, by the way DeanIsaKitty :3
L299[06:39:46] <Lizzy> right, once i've determined that the raid setup of these 2 3tb drives is working i'm gonna leave my pc on to download stuff and then head out to grays so i can get my mother a birthday card and retrieve the 240GB ssd from Ayiana so i can put it in Orlin
L300[06:39:58] <DeanIsaKitty> hai ^^
L301[06:40:24] <Sharidan> so Dean, I've started working on my UI lib
L302[06:40:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: You also made me add "dean" as highlight trigger.
L303[06:40:50] <Sharidan> lol
L304[06:40:57] <vifino> dean dean dean dean dean dean! :D
L305[06:40:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, [Dd]ean(4[Dd]evil|[Ii]sa[Kk]itty)?
L306[06:41:11] <DeanIsaKitty> But that includes dean and Dean now
L307[06:41:25] <vifino> hooray
L308[06:41:28] <Sharidan> all because of me :P
L309[06:41:43] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: Yes, all because you can't press tab
L310[06:41:50] <Lizzy> 139/142 come on
L311[06:41:56] <vifino> because of Sharidan's lack of a tab button on their keyboard*
L312[06:41:58] <Sharidan> I added in multi gpu, multi screen support
L313[06:42:00] <Sharidan> DeanIsaKitty
L314[06:42:07] <Sharidan> I can tab and do use it :P
L315[06:42:17] <vifino> (tm)
L316[06:42:23] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm gonna go kill irssi real quick <.<
L317[06:42:34] <vifino> RIP irssi.
L318[06:43:11] <DeanIsaKitty> ^^
L319[06:43:16] <DeanIsaKitty> That should have done it
L320[06:43:19] <vifino> woo
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L322[06:43:44] <Sharidan> I'm thinking I should change the gpu selection to simply be a slot number - or maybe support both addresses and slot numbers
L323[06:43:45] <irssi> DeanIsaKitty: Why did you do this to me? :'(
L324[06:43:55] <DeanIsaKitty> Ok, it did not <.>
L325[06:43:56] * vifino coughs
L326[06:44:07] <Sharidan> lol
L327[06:44:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Apparently ^<Nickname> Is handled specially in irssi and overrides all other hilights. .-.
L328[06:45:16] <vifino> lol
L329[06:48:28] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: Ping me pls <.<
L330[06:50:21] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: ping pong you're adorable :D
L331[06:50:28] <vifino> muahahaha :D
L332[06:50:30] * vifino hides
L333[06:50:41] <DeanIsaKitty> ffs irssi ...
L334[06:51:20] <irssi> :<
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L336[06:52:49] <sivael> o/ everyone :)
L337[06:52:55] <DeanIsaKitty> \o sivael
L338[06:52:56] <Sharidan> o/ sivael
L339[06:53:25] <DeanIsaKitty> irssi: You are useless
L340[06:53:32] <sivael> I'm trying to make a detector of blocks, but it looks like all I can do is detect 1 block in either direction and not even what it is but the general type of it (detect()
L341[06:53:38] <Sharidan> dean dean dean?!? ping!
L342[06:53:38] <sivael> am I right?
L343[06:53:39] <Sharidan> :P
L344[06:54:01] <DeanIsaKitty> Sharidan: I should put you in the killfile.
L345[06:54:08] <Sharidan> sivael: I assume it's from a robot?
L346[06:54:19] <Sharidan> DeanIsaKitty: nah, you like me too much for that :)
L347[06:54:27] <DeanIsaKitty> Says who? <.<
L348[06:54:31] <sivael> @Sharidan: Ues
L349[06:54:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Also yay, irssi FINALLY accepts my hilight rules.
L350[06:55:18] <Lizzy> right, testing out the raid
L351[06:55:32] <Sharidan> sivael: with the .detect() / .detectUp() / .detectDown() methods you can only detect if there's something there yes
L352[06:55:51] <sivael> so is there another method for detecting what's around my robot?
L353[06:56:12] <Sharidan> sivael: there are the .compare() / .compareUp() / .compareDown() methods which allow you to compare to something in the robot's inventory
L354[06:56:50] <sivael> hm. Okay, so there's no IDs or blocktypes that I can access?
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L356[06:57:47] <sivael> or maybe a surroundings scanner that would scan anything within the 5 block range?(would be perfect_
L357[06:57:57] <Sharidan> sivael: http://ocdoc.cil.li/api:robot <-- that's the api reference for the robot ..
L358[06:58:12] <Sharidan> sivael: there's an inventory upgrade aswell, that adds more to it's capabilities
L359[06:58:27] <Sharidan> sivael: no, there's nothing like that for the robot
L360[06:58:37] <sivael> not even in any of the mods to OC?
L361[06:59:52] <Sharidan> uhm, I honestly don't know if there is an addon that adds those kinds of upgrades
L362[07:00:42] <sivael> hm. okay then, will try to make something like this:)
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L368[07:18:17] <vifino> Oh, fuck me
L369[07:18:35] <Lizzy> mmm
L370[07:18:36] <Lizzy> later
L371[07:19:05] <vifino> Why is this tunnel not working anymore? It should work, it delegates my ipv6 things but ping goes to void... .-.
L372[07:19:09] <vifino> Lizzy: oh you
L373[07:19:10] <Lizzy> also :/ the 3tb array isn;t recognised in windows and the intel RST isn't wanting to come on
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L375[07:21:43] <vifino> Anyone feeling like debugging an he.net tunnel on openwrt with me? ._.
L376[07:21:54] <Lizzy> also yay for internet stuff not getting above 100KB/s
L377[07:22:36] <Lizzy> oh
L378[07:22:45] <Lizzy> cause steam was downloading in the backgroud
L379[07:22:59] <Sharidan> there's your bandwidth hog :)
L380[07:26:03] <Lizzy> hahah, man SSDs are awesome. as soon as the screens come back on from the boot animation of w7, they're already on the desktop
L381[07:26:45] <Sharidan> can't really beat that kind of speed
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L387[08:23:04] <sivael> so openWRT doesn't route traffic through the tunnel properly?
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L389[08:35:35] <Turtle> Well, I´m all grumbly at uni again now >.<
L390[08:39:24] <Turtle> Context: Uni randomly announced a new book to be bought, ´Objects First with Java: A Practical Introduction Using BlueJ´ which was not on the previous list of books, anyone happen to know it well enough to say if it is or isn´t useful if you´re not a complete beginner to Java?
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L393[08:42:18] <CompanionCube> why not just go googling for it
L394[08:43:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Given that it uses BlueJ it is very likely to be the noobiest book out there :P
L395[08:43:14] <Turtle> Cube I tried
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L397[08:44:33] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, I feared as much
L398[08:44:36] <Turtle> TO THE RUSSIAN-NET
L399[08:46:47] <vifino> Izaya: how2make sites in luakit not look like complete garbage
L400[08:48:46] <Turtle> Actually, aparently the grades refer to assignments from the book >.<
L401[08:48:54] <sivael> I can't seem to find if there is a way to detect the block name inside an inventory?
L402[08:48:55] <Turtle> *grade assignments
L403[08:49:12] <Turtle> Please don´t be on a CD Please don´t be on a CD Please don´t be on a CD Please don´t be on a CD Please don´t be on a CD >.<
L404[08:49:34] *** LearningFairy is now known as Daiyousei
L405[08:49:45] <Saphire> Turtle: >russian-net
L406[08:50:02] * Saphire flips the freaking table
L407[08:50:15] *** Gavle|Away is now known as Gavle
L408[08:50:27] <Sharidan> now I got nowhere to put the coffee pot? :/
L409[08:50:31] <Turtle> Saphire, I am not paying $130 for grade assignments
L410[08:50:36] <Sharidan> oh well - means more coffee for me then :]
L411[08:50:54] <Gavle> Hello
L412[08:51:05] <Saphire> Turtle: oh
L413[08:51:08] <Sharidan> o/ Gavle
L414[08:51:09] <Saphire> Yarr?
L415[08:51:11] <Turtle> Yes
L416[08:51:16] <Saphire> YARRRRR!
L417[08:51:27] <Turtle> Because fuck that entire industry
L418[08:51:28] <Gavle> Pirates?
L419[08:51:29] * DeanIsaKitty throws a coffee table in Sharidan's general direction
L420[08:51:38] <Saphire> Gavle: Pirates, yup!
L421[08:51:44] * Saphire raises the flag
L422[08:51:44] <Gavle> Uh
L423[08:51:55] * Sharidan ducks as the table flies by
L424[08:52:08] * Gavle shoots Sharidan's flag
L425[08:52:24] * Saphire grins :D
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L427[08:52:43] <Sharidan> I no have no flag :P
L428[08:52:49] <Lizzy> ¬_¬
L429[08:52:49] <Sharidan> Saphire has a flag :P
L430[08:52:56] <Saphire> Gavle: what do you have against piracy? :3
L431[08:53:07] <Lizzy> gta why do you prematurely leave a session before seeing if the lobby is full?
L432[08:53:36] * Gavle shoots Saphire's flag
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L434[08:54:08] * Saphire looks as flag becomes even more badass
L435[08:54:10] <Saphire> Thanks!
L436[08:54:36] * Michiyo yawns
L437[08:54:44] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Looking at http://www.bluej.org/objects-first/ This book is not worth 20 bucks, much less 120.
L438[08:54:46] * Lizzy offers Michiyo coffee
L439[08:55:07] * Michiyo gladly accepts the coffee and thanks Lizzy
L440[08:55:09] * Gavle removes Saphire's flag
L441[08:55:23] * Saphire pouts
L442[08:55:41] * Gavle eats the flag
L443[08:55:51] <Turtle> DeanIsaKitty, well, http://www.amazon.com/Objects-First-Java-Practical-Introduction/dp/0132492660
L444[08:56:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Yeah, I looked at the amazon page <.<
L445[08:56:16] * Saphire sighs and grabs yet another flag out of n thousands
L446[08:56:31] <Turtle> ~€90 on bol
L447[08:56:33] <Turtle> >.>
L448[08:57:07] * Gavle eats Saphire
L449[08:57:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: It is at least very easy to get for free, albeit not legal then :P
L450[08:57:30] <Saphire> Gavle: ooooh, that goes into shady places..
L451[08:57:36] <Turtle> Opsec be damned: http://i.imgur.com/OBzmgQP.png and http://i.imgur.com/0ydRf2Q.png
L452[08:57:38] * Saphire pokes Turtle
L453[08:57:52] <Saphire> Turtle: kat.cr
L454[08:58:01] <Turtle> All but the last (2) weeks are BASIC knowledge, or trivial to learn from the web if you have basic knowledge :p
L455[08:58:04] <Gavle> :/
L456[08:58:06] <Turtle> and yeah, will take note saphire
L457[08:58:11] <Saphire> \o/
L458[08:58:17] <Saphire> always happy to help
L459[08:58:37] * Saphire glues a flag to Gavle :P
L460[08:59:08] * Gavle sets flag.png to /dev/null
L461[08:59:18] <Turtle> Gavle, 4th edition is €20 I´d gladly pay that
L462[08:59:25] <Gavle> What?
L463[08:59:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I am not allowed to tell you you should get the book from http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=ab2db2575da3621df4469883d80ca022 but if you were to get that idea for yourself I am not able to stop you <.<
L464[08:59:40] <Turtle> Ik about that site, hence russia-net :p
L465[08:59:47] <Gavle> Turtle, what 4th edition?
L466[08:59:49] <Saphire> >lib rus ec
L467[08:59:50] <Turtle> The book
L468[08:59:52] <Gavle> TACEATS4?
L469[09:00:06] <Gavle> I don't know what book of which you speak
L470[09:00:06] <Turtle> As in, Objects first edition 4, it´s like €20
L471[09:00:11] <Saphire> those got into copyring iirc
L472[09:00:23] <Turtle> Saphire, err?
L473[09:00:34] <Saphire> or not
L474[09:00:36] <Saphire> hm
L475[09:00:44] <Saphire> might have confused with something
L476[09:01:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: Sadly it seems like none of the big sponsors picked up that book. Oh well.
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L478[09:01:14] <Turtle> eh, fellow students seem to have found it too already
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L480[09:01:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, if it were sponsored you could get it legally for basically no money or even free. Fuck the US education system though.
L481[09:02:03] <Turtle> I´m not even sure uni is allowed to force you to buy a book for the eurocredits
L482[09:02:19] <Turtle> but I am not qualified to talk about dutch law
L483[09:02:19] <Turtle> xd
L484[09:04:33] <Gavle> This afternoon, I will perfect my file splicer
L485[09:04:44] <Gavle> Then, I can do many good things
L486[09:05:33] <Turtle> Hm?
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L488[09:06:50] <Gavle> Yes
L489[09:06:54] <Gavle> A file splicer
L490[09:07:07] <Gavle> Inserts words or lines in the middle of a file
L491[09:12:24] <sivael> okay, I got the IntelliJ IDEA environment, ran the gradle thing from the docs and all, and made my changes to the OpenComputers project... in the "out" I have the production folder which contains(I think) all of the files from the mod.
L492[09:12:36] <sivael> How do I make it into a mod file? just sip it up?
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L494[09:13:18] <Turtle> Open the gradle toolbar
L495[09:13:26] <Turtle> it´s under view -> tools? -> gradle I think
L496[09:13:40] <Turtle> forgegradle should have a command/whatever for making a mod file
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L498[09:14:38] <sivael> Okay, will look for that then:) thanks:)
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L500[09:15:53] <sivael> okay, it failed with the gradle integration before, thanks for the pointer:)
L501[09:16:50] <sivael> I'm really annoyed at how difficult it is to mod MC while it shouldn't really be if Mojang didn't do weird stuff :P
L502[09:17:37] <Turtle> You tell me, I did some weird magic that I´m not even sure works properly across multiplayer
L503[09:18:26] <Lizzy> why is gtav so shit at finding sessions with players in?
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L506[09:27:41] <Gavle> %p
L507[09:27:43] <MichiBot> Ping reply from Gavle 1.51s
L508[09:27:47] <Gavle> Oof
L509[09:30:40] <sivael> where do I see the gradle result?
L510[09:36:28] <sivael> uh... looks like gradle is building the project over and over again in the background... each compile taking 5 minutes I'm a bit confused as why it does that
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L514[09:46:56] <Michiyo> I dunno about with idea... but me I just run gradlew build.. :p
L515[09:47:43] <Gavle> How is gradlew pronounced?
L516[09:47:53] <Gavle> I always pronounced it gradle oo
L517[09:48:17] <sivael> hm. okay; when you run the build, where do you find the jar?
L518[09:48:29] <Michiyo> It's gradlewrapper... so I usually just say gradle.. w
L519[09:48:44] <Michiyo> sivael: I think that depends on the MC version...
L520[09:48:52] <Gavle> Ah
L521[09:48:55] <sivael> 1.7.10, but I've just compiled it
L522[09:49:09] <Michiyo> ummm shit I don't have my dev env at work.. lol
L523[09:49:10] <Michiyo> umm
L524[09:49:16] <sivael> and I'm looking for a jar and there's either nonew or I've done something wrong:)
L525[09:49:25] <Michiyo> umm /lib/build?
L526[09:50:00] <Michiyo> I can't recall the directory structure off the top of my head
L527[09:50:25] <Michiyo> maybe /build/libs/
L528[09:50:43] <sivael> ok. that is bizarre
L529[09:50:44] <Michiyo> yeaaah build/libs/
L530[09:50:56] <Michiyo> build/libs/OpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.5.22.43-universal.jar
L531[09:50:58] <sivael> when I search for the file it shows in /build
L532[09:51:07] <sivael> but when I go there it's not:P
L533[09:51:12] <sivael> Okay, will check
L534[09:51:31] <sivael> seems to be there, thanks:)
L535[09:51:35] <Michiyo> np
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L537[09:52:45] <sivael> java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: iron
L538[09:53:00] <sivael> Will have to try and redo it again. looks weird:p
L539[09:53:51] <sivael> so yeah, will fix those issues
L540[09:53:54] <sivael> thanks:)\
L541[09:54:24] <Michiyo> sivael: sounds like trying to run deobf code in obf
L542[09:54:44] <Michiyo> maybe the obf tasks didn't run? o_O
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L545[09:58:17] <Michiyo> Or did you maybe grab the -dev jar, instead of the -universal?
L546[09:58:17] <Michiyo> idk
L547[09:58:27] <Michiyo> but 'iron' doesn't exist in obf code
L548[09:58:42] <Michiyo> which is why NoSuchField
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L550[10:02:50] <sivael> I'll try to recompile with original files and see where that gets me
L551[10:03:02] <sivael> it takes *SO* long though
L552[10:03:14] <sivael> I'm used to 10s compile times with java:P
L553[10:06:34] <Michiyo> heh yeah jenkins says compiles take like 10 minutes, my mods usually run in the 45 second range
L554[10:07:32] <Michiyo> ahh build 32 took 2 minutes, 42 took 10
L555[10:07:35] <Michiyo> wonder why
L556[10:08:19] <Michiyo> oh hey.. 41 took 1 minute...
L557[10:08:23] <Michiyo> 42 too 10 o_O
L558[10:08:27] <Michiyo> that's a crazy difference
L559[10:08:27] <Michiyo> lol
L560[10:08:43] <sivael> :p
L561[10:09:03] <sivael> hm
L562[10:09:05] <sivael> it crashes
L563[10:09:13] <sivael> same error
L564[10:09:31] <Michiyo> Then you're not getting obfuscated code..
L565[10:09:37] <Michiyo> which is bad (tm)
L566[10:09:37] <sivael> hm
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L568[10:09:42] <sivael> I'm using the universal jar
L569[10:09:47] <sivael> so hm
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L571[10:10:12] <Michiyo> can you post the log from gradlew build?
L572[10:10:17] <sivael> I'll execute the "build" task again, hope that fixes it
L573[10:10:55] <sivael> will do, as soon as it compiles(might take a while)
L574[10:11:31] <Michiyo> gradlew clean build might also be a good debugging step... but be prepared for even longer build
L575[10:12:36] <Michiyo> I've not built OC, but all jenkins does is gradle clean build publish
L576[10:13:07] <Michiyo> and afaik publish just copies stuff to maven, which won't work for you :P
L577[10:13:07] <sivael> hm. what does publish do?
L578[10:13:16] <sivael> oh, ok
L579[10:13:50] <sivael> k; I see reobf task(that didn't run before afaik)
L580[10:13:55] <Michiyo> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/blob/master-MC1.7.10/build.gradle#L313-L328
L581[10:14:02] <sivael> so yeah; should be better now
L582[10:14:04] <Michiyo> yeah reobf is important
L583[10:14:05] <Michiyo> :P
L584[10:15:42] <sivael> yup, working with public src, now after my changes...
L585[10:20:06] <Michiyo> Nice, now I can be nosey.. :P
L586[10:20:12] <Michiyo> What changes ya makin? :P
L587[10:21:33] <vifino> Quick question: What should we get? A Cisco Catalyst 24 port gbit w/ 4 sfp gbit ports or Quanta LB4M 48 port gbit w/ 2 sfp+ 10GbE ports?
L588[10:22:43] <vifino> A Cisco Catalyst Switch WS-C2970G-24TS-E, btw.
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L591[10:29:45] <sivael> Yay, working :D
L592[10:30:05] <sivael> @Michiyo: I want to enable the robots to see more than just 6 types of stuff
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L594[10:30:16] <sivael> to identify stuff in different directions by name
L595[10:30:22] <sivael> and in the end to scan the surroundings
L596[10:30:45] <Gavle> Is that a mod idea?
L597[10:30:59] <sivael> Yeah, but I'm currently hardcoding a simple change into the robot
L598[10:31:11] <sivael> later I'd do it via a scanner upgrade
L599[10:31:31] <Gavle> Computronics camera upgrade?
L600[10:31:32] <sivael> use some power, scan everything (if visible) in radius
L601[10:31:42] <Gavle> Does that reveal the type, or just the distance?
L602[10:31:52] <sivael> type and position
L603[10:31:55] <sivael> relative to robot
L604[10:32:09] <Gavle> Then why not just use that?
L605[10:32:14] <sivael> basically so the robot can see stuff and not just blindly dig:P
L606[10:32:53] <vifino> I can also get a Juniper EX3200, apparently.
L607[10:32:55] <Gavle> Were you talking about the Computronics upgrade, or your thing?
L608[10:33:05] <Gavle> As for digging, maybe a geolyzer
L609[10:33:27] <sivael> my thing
L610[10:33:34] <Gavle> Ah
L611[10:33:42] <Gavle> Did you look at a Geolyzer?
L612[10:33:43] <sivael> it would scan the surroundings returning a list of items and where they are
L613[10:33:48] <Gavle> It reveals density
L614[10:33:51] <sivael> Yeah
L615[10:33:58] <sivael> But this would not go through solid blocks
L616[10:34:07] <sivael> it would have normal visibility
L617[10:34:09] <Gavle> Ah
L618[10:34:20] <sivael> I aim to have an option of having a "robot wars" thing
L619[10:34:43] <Gavle> Use the camera upgrade from Computronics
L620[10:34:49] <Michiyo> Anyone know a a (Preferably free) VM software, that lets me take live snapshots of running VMs?
L621[10:34:52] <Gavle> It can see stuff
L622[10:34:57] <Michiyo> I'd like to have backups without having to power off my VMs.. :/
L623[10:35:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Michiyo: I think virtualbox can do live snapshots, but if you want to use that...
L624[10:35:27] <sivael> uh
L625[10:35:35] <sivael> but it doesn't give you the type
L626[10:35:37] <sivael> just the distance
L627[10:35:39] <Gavle> Oh
L628[10:35:50] <Gavle> Guess? XD
L629[10:35:50] <Michiyo> DeanIsaKitty: oh... does it? I use vbox atm.. I've not looked deeply into it..
L630[10:35:51] <Michiyo> lol
L631[10:36:05] <sivael> Michiyo - on servers?
L632[10:36:08] <Michiyo> I'm looking at moving my VMs to a box I'm looking at getting soon
L633[10:36:11] <sivael> or on desktop?
L634[10:36:21] <Michiyo> server, dedi
L635[10:36:39] <sivael> We use XenServer for that and I seem to remember it could do that
L636[10:36:48] <Michiyo> the host will be running some Linux distro
L637[10:36:50] <sivael> but not 100% sure as I'm not the admin for that
L638[10:37:03] <DeanIsaKitty> I wouldn't personally use virtualbox on anything serverlike, also Xen for that.
L639[10:37:05] <Michiyo> I'ven ot decided 100% on which one yet
L640[10:37:23] <Michiyo> DeanIsaKitty: Vbox wasn't my first choice... the guy who bought the box wanted it
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L642[10:37:27] <Michiyo> so... I went with it -_-
L643[10:37:28] <Gavle> Run the VM on a potato?
L644[10:38:05] <sivael> Gavle - so I've modified the detect to return the block name (if available) as well
L645[10:38:11] <Michiyo> But depending on how my next month or so at work goes, I'm looking at picking up a box
L646[10:38:25] <Michiyo> so I get to configure it to my wants
L647[10:38:26] <Michiyo> o/
L648[10:38:29] <Michiyo> \o/*
L649[10:38:40] <Gavle> Sivael, the default robot, or your upgrade thing?
L650[10:38:59] <Gavle> Tuberous Server OP
L651[10:39:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Michiyo: Xen has live snapshots, I just checked. the command should be `xm save <guest> filename`
L652[10:39:38] <Michiyo> then I can backup said snapshot to where ever... hmm
L653[10:39:54] <Michiyo> can I run windows VMs on xen?
L654[10:39:57] <Michiyo> never tried...
L655[10:40:13] <Michiyo> Cause I have a server 2k12 box I *really* need
L656[10:40:15] <sivael> @Gavle - for now default robot. It's my first modding that I'm doing here;P
L657[10:40:23] <sivael> Also, never programmed in Scala
L658[10:40:26] <Gavle> Sivael, I see
L659[10:40:32] <sivael> yay, works:D
L660[10:40:32] <Gavle> Lol
L661[10:40:39] <Gavle> I know VB and some Lua
L662[10:40:43] <sivael> a, b, c= robot.detectDown();
L663[10:40:44] <Michiyo> yeah Scala is.. different lol
L664[10:40:48] <DeanIsaKitty> Michiyo: Yeah, you should be able to.
L665[10:40:50] <sivael> term.write(c);
L666[10:40:53] <sivael> tile.wood :D
L667[10:40:58] <Michiyo> So, Xen it may be, thanks DeanIsaKitty
L668[10:41:08] * Gavle hands sivael a potato
L669[10:41:09] <Gavle> Gg
L670[10:41:11] <sivael> :D
L671[10:41:32] <Gavle> Sivael, how much Lua do you know?
L672[10:41:59] <DeanIsaKitty> Michiyo: I have to admit that I only ever used qemu and xen so I can't really be objective and compare. :P
L673[10:42:19] <Michiyo> lol
L674[10:42:32] <Michiyo> Well, lots of people recomend Xen.. So it can't be too bad :P
L675[10:42:42] <Michiyo> and it's gotta be better than KVM :p
L676[10:42:54] <Gavle> OS KVM switch?
L677[10:43:03] <Michiyo> No... KVM, the VM system
L678[10:43:04] <Gavle> Cause I know you hate that one :p
L679[10:43:11] <Michiyo> ANd yes, I hate the OS KVM.
L680[10:43:12] <Michiyo> :p
L681[10:43:18] <Michiyo> It is the bane of my existance.
L682[10:43:24] <Gavle> XD
L683[10:43:28] <Michiyo> existence too
L684[10:43:35] <Michiyo> afk customer
L685[10:44:34] <sivael> :p
L686[10:44:46] <Gavle> Sivael, do you know Lua?
L687[10:45:07] <sivael> Made some Tibia scripts in my time, but not really :P just a bit
L688[10:45:11] <Gavle> Ah
L689[10:45:17] <sivael> sorry, didn't notice You writing up there
L690[10:45:26] <sivael> Tibia being the open server thing
L691[10:45:46] <Gavle> Because a friend sent me some stuff, and a bit of your robot wars code could be useful
L692[10:46:00] <sivael> I am multilingual though - I started out with pascal, C, C++, Java, Delphi, PHP, Jacvascript (...)
L693[10:46:22] <sivael> currently I've been working in PHP + Javascript + java though:P
L694[10:46:54] <Saphire> Uh huh
L695[10:47:05] <Gavle> Well
L696[10:47:13] <Gavle> That is more than I know XD
L697[10:47:24] <Gavle> I just know VB and some Lua
L698[10:47:49] <sivael> I started out when I was 6 and have a knack at understanding and writing code.
L699[10:48:04] <sivael> Asthma and antisocial tendencies do that to You:P
L700[10:48:32] <CompanionCube> libvirt works nicely
L701[10:48:44] <vifino> CompanionCube: ofc.
L702[10:50:00] <Gavle> Coding in OC Lua that is
L703[10:50:04] <sivael> But overall - as soon as we have something(this is a project that I'm getting a friend of mine into as well) I'll send stuff over:)
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L705[10:50:19] <sivael> hm.
L706[10:50:21] <sivael> interesting.
L707[10:50:44] <sivael> sugarcanes are interpreted as air but can't move into them
L708[10:50:56] <Gavle> Wifi
L709[10:51:00] <Gavle> You are the wurst
L710[10:51:26] <Gavle> I'm right at the edge, so it flips from WiFi to Cellular and back
L711[10:52:01] <sivael> Happens;P
L712[10:52:20] <sivael> I'm in the LTE range and am using that - pretty nice unless it doesn't work
L713[10:52:32] <sivael> and it doesn't work about 2-3h/week
L714[10:52:39] <sivael> so quite significant time
L715[10:52:40] <Gavle> :(
L716[10:53:28] <sivael> but otherwise it's cheaper than cable and I can just cancel anytime:P
L717[10:53:36] <sivael> also, I can just move and have it still
L718[10:53:42] <Gavle> Yep
L719[10:53:53] <sivael> And when it works, it's 2MB/s so pretty nice:)
L720[10:53:58] <Gavle> My house has bad reception though :(
L721[10:54:14] <Gavle> So I fork out cash for cable internet
L722[10:54:39] <sivael> :)
L723[10:54:40] <Gavle> I hope the FCC doesn't get buried under the legions of lawyers from Comcast and Verizon
L724[10:54:59] <Gavle> It's the final showdown
L725[10:55:27] <Gavle> The future of the entire Internet in the USA depends on the court case
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L727[10:56:42] <sivael> ;p
L728[10:56:54] <Gavle> :)
L729[10:57:01] <DeanIsaKitty> But LTE is so much slower than cable internet though :P
L730[10:57:45] <Gavle> 5G
L731[10:57:56] <Gavle> Should come out ~2018
L732[10:58:31] <DeanIsaKitty> ALTE? Max speed 1Gbit/s. Absolute max. With twisted copper wire you can easily get 10+Gbit/s even in remote locations.
L733[10:58:54] <sivael> DeanIsaKitty: well, true, in most cases. But where I live cable amounts to 2MB/s and I'm renting so getting cable requires the owners permission and the owner lives like 500k away:P
L734[10:58:55] <Gavle> Dean, not in the US
L735[10:59:13] <sivael> and 2y deal as well:P
L736[10:59:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Gavle: Physics caps ALTE at 1GBit, not your politics.
L737[10:59:27] <Gavle> In the US, Google Fiber is a big deal with 1 GB/s
L738[10:59:39] <Gavle> Dean, I am talking cable speeds, not ALTE
L739[10:59:43] <sivael> If I could gt a good cable I would
L740[10:59:52] <sivael> but I plan on moving out soon too:P
L741[10:59:58] <sivael> so decided on that
L742[11:00:08] <Gavle> In the US, Comcast tops out at about 150, and Verizon at 500 MBps
L743[11:00:14] <Gavle> Mbps*
L744[11:00:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Gavle: I'm talking about how (A)LTE from a technological point of view ist plain worse than Cable internet. I dont give a fuck about how bad your internet in the US is, I'm in germany.
L745[11:00:56] <Gavle> Dean, I was just mentioning that technical limits are not always reached
L746[11:01:09] <Gavle> Your argument's theory remains untouched
L747[11:01:28] <DeanIsaKitty> Gavle: For you. Not in a country that has realized that pure for-profit is a bad idea.
L748[11:01:43] <Gavle> Dean, the US is backwards
L749[11:01:51] <Gavle> In almost every way
L750[11:02:12] <Gavle> Starting with our Ancient Era measurement system
L751[11:02:26] <Gavle> Which literally goes back before the time of the Romans
L752[11:02:29] <DeanIsaKitty> Gavle: The US also is not the whole world. My argument is not untouched, just the US is really really bad when it comes to internet
L753[11:02:39] <Gavle> Fair enough
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L755[11:04:09] <sivael> how do you write programs on the device?
L756[11:04:13] <sivael> is there an editor?
L757[11:04:52] <DeanIsaKitty> OpenOS provides edit.
L758[11:04:59] <sivael> ok:)
L759[11:05:00] <sivael> thanks:)
L760[11:08:24] * Lizzy is waiting for her 3tb drive array to initialize
L761[11:08:42] * DeanIsaKitty gives Lizzy some chocolate
L762[11:08:49] * Lizzy :O
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L771[11:13:01] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Corded now has 10 points
L772[11:13:28] <Gavle> %+100 Michiyo
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L774[11:13:35] <Gavle> Whoo
L775[11:16:26] <Michiyo> lol
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L782[11:20:54] <Michiyo> wb gamax92
L783[11:22:00] <gamax92> phone is acting dumb
L784[11:22:25] <gamax92> everything crashes, and then eventually Android entirely crashes and reboots
L785[11:22:30] <Gavle> XD
L786[11:22:34] <Keanu73OC> Hai
L787[11:22:42] <Gavle> My phone doesn't do that
L788[11:22:47] <Gavle> Gal S5
L789[11:22:50] <gamax92> Gavle: good for you
L790[11:22:53] <gamax92> go fuck yourself
L791[11:23:02] <Gavle> :(
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L793[11:23:40] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: My camera app has the tendency to crash while having the camera locked resulting in no app (even camera itself) being able to use the camera until I reboot
L794[11:23:57] <Gavle> Ouch
L795[11:26:40] <gamax92> there, was bad application.
L796[11:27:27] <gamax92> I can't understand why it can't just not install it or tell me hey, this app is corrupted, instead of putting it on there and then crashing a bunch and then making no mentions about the broken app
L797[11:27:56] <DeanIsaKitty> Go poke google :P
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L799[11:29:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Also, the joys of OpenVPN <.>
L800[11:29:51] <Lizzy> ?
L801[11:33:11] <sivael> gamax92: Try reinstalling the firmware? I've found that sometimes the firmware simply gets bugged over time
L802[11:34:32] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: OpenVPN is ... tricky to configure right.
L803[11:34:40] <Lizzy> ah, yeah
L804[11:35:52] * Lizzy prefers SoftEther
L805[11:36:06] * DeanIsaKitty preferst fastd for most situations.
L806[11:42:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Has anyone in here used either OpenVPN or softether for high-troughput applications? I'm asking because of the comparison page of Softether stating that OVPN will make <100Mbit/s while Softether does >900Mbit/s.
L807[11:43:28] <gamax92> huh ... "invalid address or address of corrupt block 0x69 passed to dlfree"
L808[11:43:52] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: Remember when I talked about my openvpn being shit performance wise?
L809[11:43:56] <vifino> Softether did a lot better.
L810[11:43:57] * gamax92 pokes `-`
L811[11:44:17] <DeanIsaKitty> vifino: That was not quite the question, but ok
L812[11:44:42] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: softether be faster.
L813[11:44:47] <vifino> That's my answer.
L814[11:45:22] <DeanIsaKitty> Looking at their data, SoftEther is about 16% faster than OpenVPN
L815[11:45:39] <vifino> I'm sure Lizzy can talk a bit about softether too, after all she is the expert.
L816[11:46:12] <vifino> For me, it went from 1.5Mbit/s to 16+Mbit/s.
L817[11:46:19] <vifino> Which is almost wire speed.
L818[11:46:37] <vifino> I like softether. :D
L819[11:46:47] <vifino> even though it's cli is shit.
L820[11:46:51] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty, it's pretty fast. i was downloading steam games at about 10MB/s going through a softether vpn
L821[11:47:12] <DeanIsaKitty> .-.
L822[11:47:58] <vifino> It's okay DeanIsaKitty, you don't have to cry.
L823[11:48:03] <Lizzy> I mean, the fact that it can use multiple connection sockets is a plus
L824[11:48:04] * vifino runs
L825[11:48:11] <Lizzy> OpenVPN just has one
L826[11:48:25] <g> softether is freaking awesome
L827[11:48:27] <Gavle> Turn that .-. Into a '.'
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L830[11:49:45] <DeanIsaKitty> They drop all layer three vpns down to layer two? <.>
L831[11:50:00] <Lizzy> ?
L832[11:51:04] <gamax92> there, also got rid of the folder with the broken application.
L833[11:51:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Also, when did pretty screenshots became acceptable arguments for a VPN that calls itself secure? <.<
L834[11:51:31] <gamax92> it is nice tho that by simply browsing a folder with the bad application in any file manager it causes a crash
L835[11:51:36] <gamax92> Google ya
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L837[11:53:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah, thats why. The student that wrote softether seems to have no idea how crypto works ^^
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L839[11:53:54] <DeanIsaKitty> SSLv3... RC4 with 128 bit, MD5 as hash. This reads like a comedy ^^
L840[11:54:33] <DeanIsaKitty> "Robust Encryption" AHAHAHAHAHAH
L841[11:54:45] <DeanIsaKitty> "Strong Security Features"
L842[11:56:03] <Lizzy> you can change the encryption algorhythm
L843[11:56:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Not to anything even remotely secure :)
L844[11:57:08] * Lizzy waits for sharex to do something
L845[11:57:24] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, remotely for like 10 years maybe. But this is a VPN, be secure for a bit longer please. <.<
L846[11:58:02] <Lizzy> is DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA not that good?
L847[11:58:14] <DeanIsaKitty> Nope
L848[11:58:17] <vifino> I'm sure in 10 years, there will be an update happening before which adds a few more encryption algorythms.
L849[11:58:17] <Lizzy> hmm
L850[11:58:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Also if you use RC4 as the session encryption it doesn't matter how you do KEX
L851[11:59:06] <Lizzy> meh, i'm not using VPN stuff for ultra-secure networking stuff so i don't care
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L853[11:59:32] <Lizzy> come on array, 92%
L854[11:59:39] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: OpenVPN with default settings is more secure than that ^
L855[12:00:22] <vifino> lets see if this'll work
L856[12:01:30] <DeanIsaKitty> You can trust a certificate that is not signed by the VPN CA. Aww Softether, you are cute. Down the drain you go.
L857[12:02:04] <Lizzy> you can use your own certs with it IIRC
L858[12:02:28] <sugoi_> greaser|q: hi
L859[12:02:31] <DeanIsaKitty> So you can with OpenVPN. But that will halt and catch fire if you have a non-signed cert.
L860[12:02:33] <sugoi_> derp my name
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L863[12:03:50] <gamax92> DeanIsaKitty: I run a openvpn server with no encryption
L864[12:04:00] <DeanIsaKitty> gamax92: You are free to do that
L865[12:04:49] <gamax92> well, it's not actually an openvpn server, it's just a android server that speaks openvpn and only supports tcp and udp
L866[12:04:54] <gamax92> all pings fail
L867[12:05:06] <DeanIsaKitty> But I want a secure VPN that is trustworthy. And Softether does big talking and provides the worst encryption of all VPNs I have seen so far.
L868[12:05:14] <Michiyo> In a month or so Eos will be no more
L869[12:05:17] * Michiyo evil laughs
L870[12:05:18] <Michiyo> afk
L871[12:05:20] <vifino> wat
L872[12:05:20] <Lizzy> :O?
L873[12:05:22] <gamax92> wat
L874[12:05:29] <gamax92> time to backup home folder.
L875[12:05:37] <Michiyo> gamax92: I'll be moving stuff
L876[12:05:39] <Michiyo> don't worry
L877[12:05:46] <vifino> Michiyo: to where?!
L878[12:05:55] <gamax92> why not just say eos is getting an upgrade/downgrade then
L879[12:05:56] <Michiyo> Eos will be moving to a new home dedicated
L880[12:05:56] <vifino> fancy fancy server server?
L881[12:06:08] <Michiyo> not "home"
L882[12:06:15] <Michiyo> but... home as in it'll be in it's new home
L883[12:06:23] <Michiyo> as in, my own dedicated box in a DC
L884[12:06:27] <Michiyo> afk though, customer
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L886[12:14:05] <gamax92> :c why am I the only one who has laggy connection to eos
L887[12:16:12] <Lizzy> come on array, hurry up and initialize so i can move stuff over to you
L888[12:17:47] <gamax92> I seem to get data in large bursts instead
L889[12:19:26] <Michiyo> gamax92: not sure..
L890[12:19:46] <Michiyo> But yeah, I'm getting my own box, and I'll be redoing everything in Xen it seems, so new VMs and all
L891[12:19:57] <Michiyo> But I'll be copying files for everyone
L892[12:20:04] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/mjbZmcS
L893[12:21:37] <Michiyo> Wow... much respect for being a dick, without being a fucking asshole
L894[12:21:50] <Michiyo> I can dig it
L895[12:22:05] <Michiyo> Could have fucked that guys shit STRAIGHT up.. but instead.. does that
L896[12:27:41] <v^> so um
L897[12:27:51] <v^> i dont know how but my glibc is broken
L898[12:28:17] <v^> i wasnt screwing around with it, just installing packages from apt like normal :/
L899[12:28:29] <gamax92> v^: force reinstall?
L900[12:28:41] <gamax92> download deb and manually unpackage?
L901[12:30:02] <v^> ill try booting up a netinstall and repairing libc6
L902[12:30:19] <Lizzy> https://imgur.com/gallery/CJRbPp0
L903[12:30:40] <v^> gamax92, apt doesnt run because there is a version difference between libc and libstdc++
L904[12:30:41] <gamax92> huh, it stopped being laggy for a sec and then back to laggy
L905[12:30:48] <gamax92> v^: does dpkg run
L906[12:30:55] <v^> yes!
L907[12:31:04] <gamax92> does wget or curl run?
L908[12:31:24] <v^> wget no curl yes
L909[12:31:32] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IWl29BNawg
L910[12:31:34] <MichiBot> Inari: Ant Simulator is canceled. Eric Tereshinski resigns from ETeeski LLC. | length: 4m 8s | Likes: 2081 Dislikes: 50 Views: 37069 | by ETeeskiTutorials
L911[12:31:43] <v^> so yeah, i can repair it manually if i have to
L912[12:31:51] <v^> im lazy and gonna use netinstall
L913[12:31:58] <alekso56> Inari: ant simulator is a thing?
L914[12:32:10] <Inari> well, was a thing
L915[12:32:14] <alekso56> rip
L916[12:32:22] <Inari> aboutmanaging an ant colony apparenlty
L917[12:33:19] <gamax92> Inari: pour water into ant colony
L918[12:33:37] <Inari> what for?
L919[12:33:52] <gamax92> death
L920[12:34:10] <gamax92> then move it outside in a field, smash it and urn
L921[12:34:12] <gamax92> run*
L922[12:34:19] <Inari> at least use molten m etal
L923[12:34:30] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/wj21JU4.jpg then you get this
L924[12:34:39] <gamax92> could use boiling water at the least
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L926[12:34:51] <gamax92> lol wat?
L927[12:35:33] <Inari> well how else would they research the structure of natural ant colonies? :P
L928[12:38:17] <gamax92> Inari: those poor ants
L929[12:40:51] <alekso56> watf is ron wif u
L930[12:50:56] <gamax92> alekso56: what is rong rong with you
L931[12:58:31] <alekso56> gamax92: ants are the new titanic survivors ;w;
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L936[13:22:03] <Sangar> o/
L937[13:22:11] <Harakhti> Hello there.
L938[13:22:25] <gamax92> Hello there
L939[13:22:36] <gamax92> Welcome to #oc
L940[13:22:44] <Vexatos> Yes, welcome to OC, Sangar
L941[13:22:49] <Sangar> thanks gamax92
L942[13:23:10] <gamax92> Sangar: blind much?
L943[13:23:19] <gamax92> You didn't join
L944[13:23:23] <gamax92> Harakhti did
L945[13:23:36] <Sangar> when did humor /part?
L946[13:23:59] <gamax92> This is no laughing matter.
L947[13:24:11] <Sangar> everything's a laughing matter so someone
L948[13:24:25] <Harakhti> Hey, don't become so...parted
L949[13:26:20] <gamemanj> What's going on involving partitions?
L950[13:27:07] <Harakhti> gamemarj: :p
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L952[13:27:53] <Harakhti> Is it bad that I try using "lsmod" instead of "components" every time?
L953[13:28:57] <gamax92> yes because lsmod wouldn't necessarly tell you everything on a computer anyway, builtin modules and such
L954[13:29:16] <Harakhti> i just keep thinking "modules" instead of "components" for some reason
L955[13:30:16] <Sangar> create an alias then :P
L956[13:30:50] <Harakhti> ya, also the linux-style implementation is fun
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L958[13:31:46] <Sangar> you might enjoy plan9k even more then
L959[13:32:30] <Harakhti> Sangar: I tried figuring it out, but I get KP on a tier 3 PC
L960[13:32:53] * Sangar shrugs
L961[13:33:05] <Sangar> yell at Magik6k then :3
L962[13:33:51] <Harakhti> It's probably something i messed up, I'll eventually figure it out
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L964[13:37:00] <Harakhti> hmm, need to remember the IRC commands
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L967[13:49:11] <greaser|q> sugoi: sup, what's the namedrop for?
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L970[13:57:12] <greaser|q> Sangar: just saw your commit, fucking spot on: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/commit/c7621294d34e3b3e9b96efcdb785f0318b3c0304
L971[13:58:17] <Sangar> heh
L972[14:00:27] <Kodos> Uhh
L973[14:00:46] * Kodos is not awake enough to GitHub
L974[14:01:33] <greaser|q> if you want a non-__gc API for automated cleanup of other things i could dig up some code that works
L975[14:01:46] <greaser|q> it's what i use in bootcore
L976[14:04:02] <gamax92> greaser|q: we need gc replacements now that we cannot __gc
L977[14:04:03] <gamax92> send help
L978[14:04:11] <gamax92> all my code is broken
L979[14:04:36] <gamemanj> gamax92: solution: write your own GC
L980[14:04:43] <gamax92> how do
L981[14:04:51] <gamemanj> gamax92: answer: you don't
L982[14:04:57] * gamax92 migrates to weak tables
L983[14:05:02] <greaser|q> gamemanj: wrong answer
L984[14:05:07] <greaser|q> gamax92: right answer
L985[14:06:19] <Sangar> greaser|q, thanks, but the only thing where it was used otherwise was the term, and i don't think it was actually needed there :P
L986[14:06:22] <greaser|q> 3 tables, give out wrapped handles and record those in a weak table, record the raw handles in a strong table at the same index, record a cleanup function alongside those with the same index, have a function that can be called every event.pull
L987[14:06:51] <gamax92> uuuh
L988[14:07:20] <greaser|q> while the length of the wrapped handle table is less than the length of the other two tables (they should be equal), call the function at the index with the raw handle in there
L989[14:07:26] <greaser|q> then fill that gap
L990[14:09:25] <Inari> greaser|q: eh, i'd prefer a native solution over hacky things
L991[14:10:48] <greaser|q> Inari: well, i don't think you were ever formally introduced to Lua, but welcome to Hacky Things: The Language
L992[14:10:53] <greaser|q> even OO is a hack
L993[14:11:27] <gamax92> anyway, with that commit ocemu should be broken again
L994[14:11:28] <gamax92> brb
L995[14:11:30] <Inari> doesnt mean i cant prefer native where native is already possible
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L997[14:13:22] <Turtle> \o/ tomcat deployment failure.... aaaand google only has one result
L998[14:13:39] <Michiyo> Turtle: atleast it's one result isn't YOUR unanswered question...
L999[14:13:42] <Michiyo> I've been there.
L1000[14:14:02] <Turtle> It's the same question, with an answer for a wildly different setup T.T
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L1002[14:14:09] <Michiyo> lol.. ouch
L1003[14:14:12] <Michiyo> afk
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L1005[14:14:34] <gamax92> Yep ocemu is broken
L1006[14:14:45] <gamax92> Sangar: please warn me before you make changes to core apis
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L1008[14:16:56] <Inari> warning~ warning~
L1009[14:17:07] <Michiyo> gamax92: nah
L1010[14:19:06] <Sangar> gamax92, consider yourself warned :P
L1011[14:19:28] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgISzVQVBvg
L1012[14:19:28] <MichiBot> Inari: 【東方ボーカルPV】 暁Records - WARNING×WARNING×WARNING 【Subbed】 | length: 4m 31s | Likes: 705 Dislikes: 3 Views: 38959 | by Mayumi Sugihara
L1013[14:23:13] <greaser|q> the problem with the native solution is it's BROKEN and thus now DISABLED
L1014[14:23:39] <gamax92> RUINED
L1015[14:24:51] <Sangar> the problem is the new system.allowGC which gamax's thinger doesn't have :P
L1016[14:24:54] <Sangar> (yet)
L1017[14:25:03] <gamax92> Sangar: and the number->userdata
L1018[14:25:17] <Sangar> well, yeah. that doesn't bother anything lua side tho
L1019[14:25:30] <gamax92> Sangar: well it's still not booting soo ... :p
L1020[14:25:57] * Sangar shrugs
L1021[14:26:08] <Sangar> doubt it's because of the handles tho
L1022[14:27:22] <gamax92> I have to patch up things anyway, various call protections in kernel/eeprom destroy me from seeing full stack traces
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L1024[14:35:33] <Gavle> Hello
L1025[14:36:14] <Gavle> How is everyone?
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L1027[14:36:55] <Izaya> vifino: make sure your font renderer is working normally
L1028[14:36:59] <sugoi> greaser|q: hello again
L1029[14:36:59] <Izaya> if it is
L1030[14:37:11] <greaser|q> i'll be dashing shortly
L1031[14:37:17] <sivael> Is there a way to know if a player used a sword on a block?
L1032[14:37:26] <sivael> (Kind of a Forge question though)
L1033[14:37:36] <sugoi> greaser|q: started a restart on term, used some of your code, thanks for that
L1034[14:37:42] <greaser|q> no worries
L1035[14:37:51] <Michiyo> Yes, you get the itemstack onActivate
L1036[14:38:04] <sugoi> hopefully that multi-term dev and i can agree on everything we need for term and we can keep it very simple
L1037[14:38:17] <Michiyo> and on block.. break or breaking, or start break or what the fuck ever the thing is called
L1038[14:38:19] <sugoi> and then, here's hoping y'all like it to (esp. Sangar :P )
L1039[14:38:30] <Michiyo> sivael: ^ btw, lol
L1040[14:39:00] * Gavle hums
L1041[14:39:30] <sugoi> Sangar: so you want me to update the PR with that commit?
L1042[14:39:35] <sugoi> (i assume so)
L1043[14:39:42] <sivael> Michiyo: Why LOL?
L1044[14:39:42] <sivael> :P
L1045[14:39:50] <sugoi> and for popen, if the user doesn't close, they just deal with it?
L1046[14:39:52] <sivael> I've already done the rudimentary scanner :D
L1047[14:40:22] <Michiyo> Cause I'd meant to include you in my reply and realized I hadn't so I was loling at myself for having to ping you after the fact
L1048[14:40:28] <sivael> :p
L1049[14:40:42] <gamax92> sugoi: no, you keep the __gc code, and incase they enable it in the config it works, and if not yell at Sangar
L1050[14:40:52] <sivael> oh, okay:)
L1051[14:40:54] <sugoi> oh ok
L1052[14:40:57] <sugoi> gamax92: cool
L1053[14:41:41] <Michiyo> I'd need to be home to dig out the exact info for it for you though sivael
L1054[14:41:47] <Michiyo> I'm still at work sadly lol
L1055[14:42:14] * Gavle gives Michiyo the ability to use /home
L1056[14:42:30] <Michiyo> I'd prefer /nap atm :P
L1057[14:42:41] <sivael> xD
L1058[14:42:48] * Gavle gives Michiyo the ability to use /coffee
L1059[14:42:49] <sivael> thanks for the info:)
L1060[14:43:53] <vifino> Izaya: it is, it just looks like shit
L1061[14:44:08] <vifino> elements are all over the place, just not where they belong
L1062[14:45:11] <gamax92> Sangar: oh nvm
L1063[14:45:23] <gamax92> Forgot to actually put the new openos on the hard drive
L1064[14:45:31] <Gavle> XD
L1065[14:45:48] <gamax92> I'll just commit this now and then work on doing a userdata sim
L1066[14:45:58] <Gavle> I like how my test hard drive now has no ls command
L1067[14:46:12] <Gavle> Because my file splicer reconfiguration failed
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L1069[14:48:05] <Gavle> Meep
L1070[14:49:15] <sugoi> Gavle: if you're trying to hide a boot script, why not just append to an existing boot file?
L1071[14:49:34] <Gavle> Sugoi
L1072[14:49:36] <Gavle> Genius
L1073[14:49:50] <Gavle> But, that's not the only thing I want to hide
L1074[14:50:11] <gamax92> why are you trying to hide stuff anyway
L1075[14:50:27] <meep> Izaya: wrong/luakit: https://i.imgur.com/gbKGWUI.jpg correct/dwb: https://i.imgur.com/PluFf4W.jpg
L1076[14:50:44] <vifino> Gavle: You aren't related to MGR, are you?
L1077[14:50:50] <Gavle> Gamax92, because I am
L1078[14:50:55] <Gavle> Vifino, he sent me
L1079[14:51:00] <vifino> Right.
L1080[14:51:01] <Gavle> Because he was banned
L1081[14:51:10] <vifino> It's MGR.
L1082[14:51:23] <Gavle> I'm asking his questions
L1083[14:51:56] <Gavle> I shall leave if you so desire
L1084[14:52:01] <gamax92> nah
L1085[14:52:05] <Gavle> I don't value him enough to get banned
L1086[14:52:19] <Michiyo> Just don't act like him, and you'll last :p
L1087[14:52:23] <gamax92> well the trick to that would be to just stop asking his questions and do your own thing
L1088[14:52:55] <Gavle> But I am helping him
L1089[14:54:00] <Gavle> He asked me irl to join here so he could acquire assistance to code, and I wanted to learn, so I figured why not?
L1090[14:54:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Gavle: MGR did not ask a stupid question nor was he banned for asking stupid questions.
L1091[14:54:26] <DeanIsaKitty> Well that one you're asking at least was not really stupid.
L1092[14:54:27] <Gavle> Dean, what?
L1093[14:54:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Gavle: what?
L1094[14:54:46] <Gavle> Also, not exactly asking a question atm
L1095[14:54:58] <Gavle> Dean, what did you mean by your statement
L1096[14:55:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Exactly what it reads.
L1097[14:55:15] <Gavle> Ok.......
L1098[14:55:20] * Gavle shrugs
L1099[14:55:41] <sivael> hm. it's strange, but it seems to me like the robots do not use the same events as the player does. So I would have to do a manual event of what happens when a robot uses a sword against another robot
L1100[14:55:57] <Gavle> And now, I shall return to my reading
L1101[14:56:05] <Gavle> Speak my name, and I shall be summoned
L1102[14:56:59] <gamax92> Gavle: I summon thee
L1103[14:57:09] <Gavle> What
L1104[14:57:30] <gamax92> Gavle: You are hearby sentenced to producing an album
L1105[14:57:32] <Gavle> Gamax92, you have 3 woshes
L1106[14:57:36] <Gavle> Wishes*
L1107[14:57:54] <Gavle> Album?
L1108[14:58:52] <vifino> Izaya: *poke*
L1109[14:59:18] * Gavle begins reading again
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L1117[15:09:47] <Gavle> hello again
L1118[15:13:57] <gamax92> HELLO GAVLE
L1119[15:13:58] <gamax92> hi
L1120[15:14:03] <Gavle> uh
L1121[15:14:07] <Gavle> hi gamax92
L1122[15:14:18] <Gavle> just want to try something real quick
L1123[15:14:20] <Gavle> hi Gavle
L1124[15:14:30] <Gavle> nope, it doesn't highlight my own messages referring to me XD
L1125[15:14:34] <gamax92> nupe
L1126[15:14:48] <Gavle> I can /msg myself though XD
L1127[15:14:53] <gamax92> yes
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L1129[15:15:18] <gamax92> /ctcp #oc ACTION jumps up and down
L1130[15:15:20] * gamax92 jumps up and down
L1131[15:16:01] * vifino applies gravity to gamax92
L1132[15:16:27] <gamax92> /msg #oc ACTION falls and dies
L1133[15:16:29] * gamax92 falls and dies
L1134[15:16:32] <gamax92> oh what
L1135[15:16:34] <vifino> nooo
L1136[15:16:45] <gamax92> oh, hexchat just displays that weirdly
L1137[15:17:24] <Michiyo> mIRC gave no fucks.. lol
L1138[15:17:27] <Michiyo> just displayed it..
L1139[15:18:13] <gamax92> brb killing pulseaudio
L1140[15:22:44] <g> Michiyo: mIRC can display ansi console colours too
L1141[15:22:45] <g> xD
L1142[15:23:20] <sivael> hm. I wonder if using the swing callback for a robot will achieve what I need; there's a player variable involved and I'm not certain it's not actually a player:p
L1143[15:23:42] <g> test
L1144[15:23:45] <g> hm
L1145[15:23:52] <g> it's hard to actually paste without a bot
L1146[15:23:52] <g> lol
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L1148[15:24:16] <vifino_> test
L1149[15:24:25] <vifino_> ohei vpn works
L1150[15:24:29] <vifino_> helloes
L1151[15:24:33] <gamax92> OheiVPN
L1152[15:24:41] <vifino_> well
L1153[15:24:44] <vifino_> its called phantom
L1154[15:24:47] <gamax92> oh
L1155[15:24:56] <vifino_> because phantom.i0i0.me is the box i set up softether
L1156[15:24:59] <vifino_> \o/
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L1158[15:26:00] <ohnofiv> do you like my hostname, gamax92?
L1159[15:26:26] <ohnofiv> 22:25 // vifino_ > [~vifino@wtfits.science] joins #oc
L1160[15:26:27] <ohnofiv> fyi
L1161[15:27:03] <Gavle> http://pastebin.com/aRNpyLmY
L1162[15:27:07] <Gavle> This program fails to work
L1163[15:27:14] <Gavle> Instead, it overwrites ls with blank data
L1164[15:27:35] <g> test
L1165[15:27:39] <vifino> Gavle: local f = io.open("/bin/ls.lua", r) -> local f = io.open("/bin/ls.lua", "r")
L1166[15:27:40] * g looks at Michiyo
L1167[15:27:51] <g> should be red
L1168[15:27:55] <Gavle> let me try that
L1169[15:27:58] <g> mirc is too smart and realised I pasted it though
L1170[15:28:15] <gamax92> mIRC isn't a terminal client?
L1171[15:28:19] <g> nope
L1172[15:28:22] <g> but it can handle the codes
L1173[15:28:25] <gamax92> ahh
L1174[15:28:36] <Gavle> vifino, it did not work
L1175[15:28:43] <Gavle> instead, it spammed my console with nil
L1176[15:28:43] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE
L1177[15:28:48] <g> I can't seem to send them verbatim though
L1178[15:28:52] <DeanIsaKitty> didn't mIRC introduce them? Or at least a few of them <.<
L1179[15:28:54] <g> but if my bot generates them, it works
L1180[15:28:55] <Gavle> and overwrote ls.lua with blank data
L1181[15:29:00] <gamax92> Gavle: what vifino said was correct though
L1182[15:29:03] <g> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1547120/ShareX/2016/February/mirc_2016-02-01_21-29-01.png
L1183[15:29:06] <Gavle> gamax92, ok
L1184[15:29:09] <g> oh, that was stupid
L1185[15:29:13] <gamax92> putting , r) is just passing nil to io.open
L1186[15:29:22] <gamax92> putting , "r") passes "read" to io.open
L1187[15:29:22] * g changes password quickly
L1188[15:29:39] <sivael> how do I get the tileEntity on a position in a world?
L1189[15:29:53] <sivael> I can get a block and then item, but how do I get the actual tileentity class?
L1190[15:30:13] <sivael> ah, nvm:P
L1191[15:30:20] <gamax92> .-. Gavle wtf is with this spacing.
L1192[15:30:44] <Gavle> In lieu of comments, I tried demarcating stuff so people could read it easier
L1193[15:30:50] <Gavle> easier to remove spaces than comments
L1194[15:31:22] <gamax92> no no, you put spacing in it so it's readable
L1195[15:31:42] <Gavle> because while MGR doesn't care about readability, I like my support having the ability to understand what I code
L1196[15:32:16] <Michiyo> g, was red.
L1197[15:32:30] <Gavle> while obfuscating an important passage, of course
L1198[15:32:37] <gamax92> btw there is a typo, readInex instead of readIndex
L1199[15:32:38] <g> Michiyo: yep, that was an ansi code
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L1202[15:32:59] <AdminComputer1> how do i make the screen not blue
L1203[15:33:19] <g> read what it says
L1204[15:33:24] <gamax92> screenshot?
L1205[15:33:41] <Gavle> gamax92, that typo printed out what ls should say
L1206[15:33:42] <Gavle> I think
L1207[15:33:56] <Gavle> will pipe it into a file then review
L1208[15:34:00] <Michiyo> AdminComputer1: in what context..?
L1209[15:34:15] <AdminComputer1> no i mean when i shut the computer off
L1210[15:35:17] <Michiyo> "context" means in what context is the screen blue... :/
L1211[15:35:30] <Michiyo> when you turn the computer off... why is the screen blue? lol
L1212[15:35:36] <Michiyo> also afk customer
L1213[15:35:54] <gamax92> AdminComputer1: how exactly are you turning the computer off ...
L1214[15:36:25] <Gavle> how do I use more?
L1215[15:36:27] <AdminComputer1> on this window wocchat it is blue and when i shut off the computer it leaves the screen blue even when i turn it back on
L1216[15:36:32] <Gavle> i thought it was splitJunk.lua > more
L1217[15:36:55] <g> AdminComputer1, if you turn a PC off just with the power button the screen will stay at what it was until it reboots properly
L1218[15:37:01] <gamax92> Gavle: > is redirect output to file
L1219[15:37:06] <gamax92> | is pipe into another program
L1220[15:37:31] <Gavle> ah
L1221[15:37:37] <Gavle> splitJunk.lua | more ?
L1222[15:37:38] <AdminComputer1> so if i reboot it it will turn blue
L1223[15:37:46] <AdminComputer1> black i mean
L1224[15:38:29] <Gavle> why does my program fail to write anything to ls.lua ?!
L1225[15:39:24] <gamax92> Gavle: you never close your handle btw
L1226[15:39:30] <Gavle> what?
L1227[15:39:37] <Gavle> I did f:close()
L1228[15:39:39] <gamax92> you don't close wF
L1229[15:39:46] * Gavle stabs face
L1230[15:40:18] <Gavle> that's what was breaking it
L1231[15:40:29] <Gavle> thank you gamax92
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L1235[15:58:04] <sivael> okay, I think I implemented a basic HP system xD
L1236[15:58:09] <sivael> compiling.....
L1237[15:58:30] <ohnofiv> Hewlett Packard?
L1238[15:58:33] <ohnofiv> wat.
L1239[15:58:45] <sivael> robots have an HP
L1240[15:58:48] <sivael> value
L1241[15:58:54] <ohnofiv> Oh, Health points.
L1242[15:58:55] <ohnofiv> :X
L1243[15:59:10] <sivael> so that they can bash each other with swords
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L1245[16:00:05] <AdminComputer1> how do i properly close this program
L1246[16:01:24] <Michiyo> I have to assume you'd /quit or at the very least ctrl-alt-c, or just ctrl-c
L1247[16:01:36] <Inari> heh
L1248[16:01:50] <sivael> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand it WORKS:D
L1249[16:01:53] <sugoi> AdminComputer1: a lua script file?
L1250[16:01:56] <Michiyo> if all of that fails, break the computer. that'll quit it.
L1251[16:02:16] <Michiyo> sugoi: iirc, wocchat, so yes.
L1252[16:02:39] <Inari> CTCP VERSION reply from AdminComputer1 [~admincomp@h69-130-70-227.nansme.broadband.dynamic.tds.net]: WocChat v0.0.2 [OpenComputers] :P
L1253[16:02:45] <Inari> i like how its 0.0.2
L1254[16:02:50] <Inari> so much to still add!
L1255[16:02:51] <sugoi> oh i thought ... the question was more about coding standards/style...like..how to return
L1256[16:03:23] <Michiyo> "this program" His question befor was because if he just hit power on the computer the screen didn't clear it kept the blue from wocchat
L1257[16:03:27] <Michiyo> before*
L1258[16:03:43] <Michiyo> so... iirc you just /quit.. but you might have to ctrl-alt-c or ctrl-c
L1259[16:04:15] <Gavle> MGR and I are pleased to announce that Module 3 works
L1260[16:04:20] <sugoi> i'm caught up
L1261[16:05:29] <Gavle> Once module 4 works, TACEATS2 development shall begin
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L1263[16:06:22] <Gavle> I think he figured it out :)
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L1265[16:07:12] <Gavle> time to learn how to do signals now
L1266[16:07:31] <sugoi> Gavle: in short, there is a signal queue
L1267[16:07:40] <sugoi> computer.pushSignal() is used to add a custom one
L1268[16:07:48] <sugoi> event.pull() to get the next signal
L1269[16:07:50] <Gavle> yeah, I just need to confirm the syntax of computer.pushSignal(), then I'm all set
L1270[16:08:06] <Gavle> sugoi, I'm familiar with grabbing signals, I just needed to check the pushing
L1271[16:09:09] <Gavle> huh, no tables
L1272[16:09:11] <Gavle> good to know
L1273[16:12:40] <Gavle> BTW, MGR lied about developing a chat program
L1274[16:12:49] <Gavle> It's actually part of his scheme to be oracle
L1275[16:13:39] <Michiyo> public int numFucksGiven = -1;
L1276[16:13:53] <Michiyo> s/public/private.
L1277[16:13:53] <Kibibyte> <Michiyo> private. int numFucksGiven = -1;
L1278[16:14:01] <Michiyo> damn...
L1279[16:14:03] <sugoi> haha
L1280[16:14:05] <Michiyo> fucking "."
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L1282[16:14:11] <sugoi> use a / for crying out loud
L1283[16:14:13] <sivael> ok. had fun, have a good (insert current time of day here) :)
L1284[16:14:16] <Michiyo> s/e./e/
L1285[16:14:16] <Kibibyte> <sivael> ok. had fun, havea good (insert current time of day here) :)
L1286[16:14:17] <sugoi> why does no one close their regex pattern
L1287[16:14:19] <sivael> o7
L1288[16:14:24] <Michiyo> I MEANT to close it.. lol
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L1290[16:14:31] <Michiyo> I TIRED to close it..
L1291[16:14:31] <Michiyo> lol
L1292[16:14:37] <sugoi> hahaha
L1293[16:14:39] <Michiyo> but I hit . instead of /
L1294[16:14:44] <sugoi> oh i see
L1295[16:14:46] <sugoi> ok, forgiven
L1296[16:14:52] <sugoi> and loved :) for caring
L1297[16:14:53] <sugoi> not enough do
L1298[16:14:55] <Michiyo> lol
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L1303[16:25:25] * Michiyo /quits
L1304[16:25:36] * vifino /restarts
L1305[16:30:01] <Michiyo> an hour man...
L1306[16:30:04] <Michiyo> dunno if I can make it
L1307[16:30:21] <Gavle> you can do it Michiyo!
L1308[16:31:44] * Michiyo yawns again
L1309[16:32:07] <AdminComputer1> hello
L1310[16:33:06] <Kodos> Howdy
L1311[16:33:08] <g> hi again
L1312[16:35:04] <Michiyo> Midori the box that hosts Bast, and Eos, has used 5.92 GB of bandwidth today. Eos has used 5.42 GB of that
L1313[16:35:39] <Kodos> What the shit are you using it for
L1314[16:35:47] <Michiyo> EVERYTHING
L1315[16:35:47] <Michiyo> lol
L1316[16:36:00] <Michiyo> Eos is a busy server..
L1317[16:37:50] <gamax92> where did vifino go ...
L1318[16:38:07] <vifino> to insanity
L1319[16:38:11] <vifino> muahahahaha
L1320[16:38:28] <ohnofiv> Wow, that vifino guy seems insane.
L1321[16:38:55] <Michiyo> Yeah, and what an asshole.
L1322[16:38:57] <Michiyo> :P
L1323[16:39:07] <vifino> Now that was uncalled for. :<
L1324[16:39:10] <Michiyo> <3
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L1326[16:40:48] <Michiyo> This is one of the main bandwidth users.. http://puu.sh/mSlZZ/0c14cdf124.png When it's active which is surprisingly often
L1327[16:41:21] <Gavle> alright, so I ran into another wall
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L1329[16:41:39] <Gavle> I'm trying to implement TLib into TACEATS so MGR can go ahead with the code, but I ran into an issue
L1330[16:41:41] <Gavle> http://pastebin.com/eKEpYsuZ
L1331[16:41:43] <g> Gavle, you should really stop doing that
L1332[16:41:45] <g> teeth are expensive
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L1334[16:42:11] <Gavle> line 14 is to munch the key_up event when a person hits enter to launch TACEATS
L1335[16:42:41] <Gavle> Oh, i think I know what I did
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L1337[16:43:07] <Gavle> nvm
L1338[16:43:08] <Gavle> all fixed
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L1340[16:44:07] * Gavle cheers
L1341[16:44:14] <Gavle> now MGR can do Trig and stuffs
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L1343[16:45:14] <Gavle> Izaya, I have allowed MGR to become Oracle!
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L1348[17:00:38] <Michiyo> Now I am become death, destroyer of worlds.
L1349[17:01:23] <Kodos> Am I reading the jenkins right in that there are 1.6 dev builds for 1.8.9?
L1350[17:02:49] <Michiyo> Kodos: looks like it
L1351[17:03:20] <Kodos> I wonder if anyone's tried them yet
L1352[17:03:27] <Michiyo> I have not. :P
L1353[17:03:47] <Michiyo> Starting a quick count to get ready to get out of here on time so afk
L1354[17:05:05] <Dashkal> I'll try to remember to toss that in my test world tonight
L1355[17:06:07] <Kodos> Thanks Dash =)
L1356[17:06:37] <Kodos> Apparently IE is being updated to 1.8.9 too
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L1358[17:07:16] <Dashkal> Oh? I was expecting them to be late to the party.
L1359[17:07:25] <Dashkal> I have a couple players who will make happy sounds about that news.
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L1364[17:39:53] <Turtle> ... yay. eclipse pls. can you like, not ignore the code changes when I'm trying to debug kthanksbai
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L1367[17:44:05] <Kodos> Does anyone have logs for the last 18 hours
L1368[17:44:36] <vifino> Kodos: https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/
L1369[17:45:15] <vifino> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/2016-02-01.log for ~17:45 hours
L1370[17:45:35] <vifino> https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/2016-01-31.log for the remaining part
L1371[17:57:42] <Kodos> Thanks =D
L1372[17:57:52] <Kodos> First one had what I needed (The gyazo link I linked this morning at like 5 am)
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L1374[18:13:13] <Gavle> greetings Kodos
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L1377[18:19:50] <Kodos> Howdy
L1378[18:19:54] <Kodos> brb
L1379[18:25:24] <Mimiru> OCLogs, for all your OC Logging needs.
L1380[18:25:29] <Mimiru> ™
L1381[18:25:54] <vifino> (c)
L1382[18:26:10] <Mimiru> So many thing I'm going to have to re-set up
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L1384[18:33:25] <gamax92> ooooh, ideas.
L1385[18:34:15] <vifino> I like mpv
L1386[18:34:17] <Kodos> I should edit my logging program to have different modes, network, chat, uhh
L1387[18:34:20] <Kodos> What else
L1388[18:34:25] <vifino> vlc was so bad to use in scripts.
L1389[18:34:51] <gamax92> Kodos: make it serve you a cup of coffee
L1390[18:34:58] <gamax92> (and log that it did so)
L1391[18:35:13] <Kodos> gamax92: If I was running IC2, sure
L1392[18:39:07] <vifino> I like that mpv has lua scripting.
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L1400[19:30:03] <Mimiru> Kodos...
L1401[19:30:24] <Mimiru> I think I have something you wanted
L1402[19:30:25] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-02-01_19-30-07.png
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L1409[19:56:49] <Kodos> \o/
L1410[19:57:24] <Mimiru> Build #88 has it... and quiet a bit more
L1411[19:57:45] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-02-01_19-57-46.png
L1412[19:59:11] <Kodos> Ho shit
L1413[19:59:14] <Kodos> Can that be colored text/
L1414[19:59:31] <Mimiru> Currently? No
L1415[19:59:39] <Mimiru> Is it planned? Yes... just.. not right now :P
L1416[19:59:45] <Kodos> Indeed
L1417[20:02:10] <Kodos> Wait, custom buttons?
L1418[20:02:26] <Kodos> Totally just clicked that wasn't a normal keypad
L1419[20:03:23] <Mimiru> Yep
L1420[20:03:57] <Mimiru> you pass a table to setKey()
L1421[20:04:20] <Mimiru> the default is {1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,*,9,#)
L1422[20:04:40] <Mimiru> you can pass a custom table in to change the keypad mapping
L1423[20:05:14] <Mimiru> and it returns the custom key "label" in the event as a 2nd param
L1424[20:05:55] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-02-01_20-06-01.png
L1425[20:06:21] <Kodos> Interesting, so it still passed the 'default values'
L1426[20:06:24] <Kodos> But also the custom one if there is one
L1427[20:06:28] <Mimiru> Yep
L1428[20:06:33] <Kodos> Neat
L1429[20:07:41] <Mimiru> setDisplay() lets you set the... display
L1430[20:07:56] <Kodos> What's the string limit on it
L1431[20:08:05] <Kodos> err that is
L1432[20:08:10] <Kodos> How many characters
L1433[20:08:25] <Mimiru> 8 characters
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L1435[20:08:47] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-02-01_20-08-46.png
L1436[20:11:14] <Kodos> Nice
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L1438[20:11:32] <Kodos> Once it supports colors, I can do the class 'Granted!' or 'Denied!'
L1439[20:12:29] <Kodos> I really wish there was a more industrial themed version of a piston/sticky piston
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L1441[20:18:00] <Mimiru> OH
L1442[20:18:02] <Mimiru> Kodos...
L1443[20:18:19] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-02-01_20-18-19.png
L1444[20:18:31] <Mimiru> It supports colors...
L1445[20:18:39] <Kodos> I figured it would if it was the MC font renderer lol
L1446[20:18:52] <Mimiru> 0-15
L1447[20:18:55] <Mimiru> MC colors
L1448[20:19:59] <Kodos> Granted in 10, Denied in 12
L1449[20:25:45] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Mimiru: that is sweet
L1450[20:26:09] <Mimiru> Yep, just had to manually merge in his changes, heh
L1451[20:27:05] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Oh wow, apparently I can edit other peoples comments.
L1452[20:27:14] <Mimiru> :P
L1453[20:27:57] <Mimiru> You DO have write access to the repo
L1454[20:28:06] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I didn't know that let you edit comments
L1455[20:28:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Of course, the first time one of your comments gets edited to say "I love dickbutt" I probably won't still have write access XD
L1456[20:28:55] <Mimiru> No...
L1457[20:28:58] <Mimiru> No you won't
L1458[20:29:00] <Mimiru> Matter of fact.
L1459[20:29:08] <Mimiru> :P
L1460[20:29:22] <SuPeRMiNoR2> Do you have a release out for those improvments? I want to try them
L1461[20:29:35] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I should probably add support for pins to osdoor
L1462[20:29:39] <Mimiru> [19:57:35] <@Mimiru> Build #88 has it... and quiet a bit more
L1463[20:30:06] <SuPeRMiNoR2> oops
L1464[20:30:22] <Mimiru> :p
L1465[20:31:06] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I should probably learn java...
L1466[20:31:11] <Mimiru> Yeah...
L1467[20:31:16] <Mimiru> I'd love to have more people helping :P
L1468[20:31:22] <SuPeRMiNoR2> I hate java with a passion
L1469[20:31:34] <SuPeRMiNoR2> But I will consider it just because it is so popular
L1470[20:38:09] <greaser|q> once you're actually programming in it it's not terribly bad
L1471[20:38:12] <greaser|q> until it gets in the way
L1472[20:38:24] <greaser|q> but when it's not in your way it's all "hmm, this actually isn't too bad"
L1473[20:38:34] <greaser|q> it's kinda like PHP in that sense
L1474[20:39:54] <greaser|q> Mimiru: opensec?
L1475[20:40:15] <Mimiru> Yes/
L1476[20:40:18] <Mimiru> ?*
L1477[20:40:27] <greaser|q> also what the hell is up with the buttons on the keypad
L1478[20:40:56] <Mimiru> Custom buttons?
L1479[20:41:16] <greaser|q> could be fun
L1480[20:41:40] <greaser|q> "Press 5" "123 467 789"
L1481[20:41:42] <Kodos> Too bad I can't access the SGA font for buttons
L1482[20:42:16] <Kodos> Would be cool to do glyph-like characters for buttons
L1483[20:43:06] <greaser|q> i still love how in TIS-3D if your casing setup isn't right you can just plonk a keypad next to a redstone module and hit 9 to open whatever
L1484[20:45:31] <Kodos> I still don't know how to TIS properly
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L1487[20:53:53] <Saphire> Kodos: "chevron N encoded"? :3
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L1489[21:01:03] <Kodos> Heh
L1490[21:01:19] <rainbowScarecrow> huh
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L1493[21:01:44] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L1494[21:02:55] <Kodos> Wife tickled me and I accidentally closed the tab
L1495[21:03:08] <Mimiru> lol
L1496[21:03:36] <rainbowScarecrow> *is quietly confused*
L1497[21:04:05] <Kodos> Wish we had shocky in here
L1498[21:04:16] <Mimiru> So glad we don't have shocky in here.. :P
L1499[21:04:21] <Kodos> I can't remember what I was typing, so this is where i would .pb 15m
L1500[21:04:48] <Mimiru> For..?
L1501[21:06:30] <Mimiru> Oh... so use... https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/2016-02-01.log
L1502[21:06:34] <Mimiru> And scroll down.
L1503[21:06:36] <Mimiru> :P
L1504[21:10:36] <Kodos> Ah, right
L1505[21:10:37] <Kodos> I was going to say
L1506[21:10:46] <Kodos> I could use a resource pack to change the font, but I'm not sure how mods would handle it
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L1508[21:12:51] <Mimiru> Also, https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/yesterday.php https://oclogs.pc-logix.com/today.php
L1509[21:13:14] <Kodos> WTB %whatdidimiss
L1510[21:13:30] <Mimiru> nah.
L1511[21:13:40] <Mimiru> goto /today.php :p
L1512[21:15:31] <Mimiru> AND logs are now sorted descending
L1513[21:19:18] <Kodos> Oh geez, someone did a Stargate mod for Ark
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L1518[21:39:07] <greaser|q> Kodos: if you want to learn how to TIS properly, actually buy TIS-100
L1519[21:39:30] <greaser|q> it definitely helps if you have friends on steam who have it because then you have people to beat
L1520[21:41:52] <gamax92> s/ on steam who have it because then you have people to beat//
L1521[21:41:52] <Kibibyte> <greaser|q> it definitely helps if you have friends
L1522[21:47:13] <Sharidan> you know, "tis" means pee in danish
L1523[21:47:47] <Kodos> I have a pirated copy, but I'm stuck on the... I think 3rd level
L1524[21:48:13] <Sharidan> it's that assembler based game right?
L1525[21:50:27] <gamax92> No Bread
L1526[21:50:44] <Kodos> Yeah
L1527[21:50:51] <gamax92> Hey Kodos
L1528[21:51:44] <Kodos> Yas?
L1529[21:52:31] <Kodos> Yeah, 3rd level
L1530[21:52:37] <Kodos> Differential Converter
L1531[21:53:54] <Sharidan> ugh .. why do the default dark colors have to be so dark :/
L1532[21:57:11] <greaser|q> ah righty, is that the one where you have to get A-B out one output and B-A out the other
L1533[21:58:45] <Kodos> Yeah
L1534[21:59:04] <Kodos> The main issue i have is that I'm not familiar with all the operators and what they do
L1535[21:59:18] <Kodos> I've read over the manual, but it just makes my head hurt
L1536[21:59:29] <Kodos> And there's not really a proper tutorial
L1537[22:04:14] <Kodos> Anyone ever try out NuclearCraft
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L1541[22:18:00] <Kodos> How the hell do I use the table to assign the keys
L1542[22:18:04] <Kodos> Your docs are wonky
L1543[22:18:22] <Mimiru> My docs don't exist for that feature yet
L1544[22:18:39] <Kodos> Erm, you have something on there
L1545[22:19:05] <Mimiru> I didn't write them. *MY* docs don't exist...
L1546[22:19:06] <Mimiru> Anyway
L1547[22:19:10] <Kodos> Ohh
L1548[22:19:11] <Kodos> Okay
L1549[22:19:22] <Kodos> So I'm guessign I can't assign button color then
L1550[22:19:23] <Mimiru> setKey({1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,*,9,#))
L1551[22:19:27] <Kodos> Yeah, got that
L1552[22:19:31] <Mimiru> IDK yet.. give me a second
L1553[22:19:38] <Kodos> kk sorreh
L1554[22:20:00] <Mimiru> Umm
L1555[22:20:05] <Mimiru> yes.. looks like you can do colors
L1556[22:20:07] <Mimiru> the same way
L1557[22:20:18] <SuPeRMiNoR2> that gives me an idea of something to do
L1558[22:20:25] <Kodos> Tbh, the entire block looks a little dark
L1559[22:20:32] <Kodos> I think either something's wrong with my settings
L1560[22:20:37] <Kodos> Or I borked something
L1561[22:20:38] <Mimiru> so setKey({1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,*,9,#),(1,1,1,12,9,12,1,11,1,2,2)}
L1562[22:20:47] <Mimiru> I think anyway
L1563[22:21:34] <Mimiru> I'll start the game in a few to check
L1564[22:22:05] <Kodos> Should it be this dark? https://gyazo.com/6a83162e4948b4735b15cb3d9b9129f5
L1565[22:22:26] <Mimiru> It isn't for me...
L1566[22:22:30] <Sharidan> that's almost invisible
L1567[22:24:41] <Kodos> Here's a keypad that I had placed before vers 88 https://gyazo.com/b324b4aaa843e9b1c73da3a3e255fe11
L1568[22:25:06] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-02-01_22-25-10.png
L1569[22:25:34] <Mimiru> I kinda fuckedu p the fist table..
L1570[22:25:35] <Mimiru> but yeah
L1571[22:25:36] <Mimiru> lol
L1572[22:25:37] <Kodos> Okay, now gimme the code for that
L1573[22:26:52] <Mimiru> setKey({"1", "2", "3", "4", "5", "6", "7", "8", "9", "*", "0", "#"},{1,1,1,12,9,12,1,11,1,2,2,5})
L1574[22:28:07] <gamax92> Mimiru: that keypad ...
L1575[22:28:10] <gamax92> it's beautiful
L1576[22:28:10] <Kodos> Still dark as shit
L1577[22:28:28] <gamax92> and customizable? 10/10
L1578[22:28:32] <Mimiru> Kodos, idk... it works fine for me?
L1579[22:29:05] <Mimiru> And yeah.. I didn't expect the issue with upgrading keypads ¬_¬ shit
L1580[22:29:22] <Mimiru> Except wait
L1581[22:29:28] <Mimiru> I didn't have that issue with this keypad
L1582[22:29:51] <Kodos> Yeah, no idea what's causing it
L1583[22:30:31] <gamax92> unlike a lot of things with OC, two area sets per tick should be possible.
L1584[22:31:29] <Mimiru> gamax92?
L1585[22:31:47] <gamax92> thinking back to an old thing I did with CC and biolock keypads
L1586[22:32:45] <Kodos> What's the technical term for a 'fullbright' texture
L1587[22:33:09] <Kodos> Think Antiblocks from Chisel
L1588[22:33:31] <minecreatr> I think the technical term is fullbright Kodos
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L1590[22:38:27] <Kodos> Meh, I can't get it to get any brighter
L1591[22:38:30] <Kodos> No idea what the fuck is doing it
L1592[22:40:22] <Mimiru> No idea either, loaded up 88 in our pack with OC 1.6
L1593[22:40:23] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/javaw_2016-02-01_22-40-14.png
L1594[22:40:37] <Kodos> Just for shits and giggles
L1595[22:40:43] <Kodos> What java are you running, the specific build
L1596[22:41:33] <Mimiru> Java Version: 1.7.0_79, Oracle Corporation
L1597[22:41:39] <Kodos> I'm on Java 8
L1598[22:41:41] <Kodos> Could that be it?
L1599[22:41:46] <Kodos> I don't know why it would be
L1600[22:41:49] <Kodos> But fuck if I know
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L1605[23:45:29] <gamax92> "Two ingredient cake: Cake mix and water"
L1606[23:45:46] * Sharidan offers gamax92 a bucket of water
L1607[23:46:11] <Sharidan> you need a microwave for that too, gamax92? :)
L1608[23:46:15] <Saphire> One ingredient cake: money
L1609[23:46:29] <Kodos> Or no ingredient cake: Go to mom's house
L1610[23:46:33] <gamax92> money money money money money money money money money money money money money mothafucker
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L1612[23:48:40] <gamax92> Kodos: that costs money
L1613[23:48:59] <gamax92> unless you already are there
L1614[23:50:09] <gamax92> I have oats, sugar, peanut bettur, and eggs
L1615[23:50:14] <gamax92> thinking this could be made into a cookie?
L1616[23:52:03] <Izaya> do oats substitute flour?
L1617[23:53:28] <gamax92> idunno
L1618[23:53:36] <v^> why do i type so freaking fast when im really tired
L1619[23:53:56] <v^> or am i just feeling time slower
L1620[23:53:57] <gamax92> v^: why do you break glibc
L1621[23:54:04] <v^> gamax92, i diddnt
L1622[23:54:07] <v^> but i fixed it lol
L1623[23:54:08] <gamax92> but you did
L1624[23:54:13] <v^> i did not
L1625[23:54:15] <gamax92> you did
L1626[23:54:19] <v^> it was not me
L1627[23:54:40] <v^> a simplescreenrecorder package i downloaded replaced glibc
L1628[23:54:51] <gamax92> so it was you
L1629[23:55:08] <v^> because the person that made it was fucking retarded and diddnt know how to get multiple glibc versions running
L1630[23:55:25] <v^> so they just included it directly in the deb which replaced everything
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