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L1[00:00:05] * sugoi boots of the ol' game
L2[00:00:40] <Shuudoushi> I need to figure out how to get accurate irl time in game without relying on http for something
L3[00:00:52] <Shuudoushi> s/for/or
L4[00:00:52] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> I need to figure out how to get accurate irl time in game without relying on http or something
L5[00:01:52] <Shuudoushi> my first try was with using fs.lastModified() as it returns a unix irl time stamp, but that failed in the end x.x
L6[00:02:39] <Antheus> .-.
L7[00:02:55] <Antheus> Technic Launcer can't download anything because it keeps getting permission denied
L8[00:03:10] <Shuudoushi> time for sudo!
L9[00:03:30] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, I've tried that
L10[00:03:33] <Antheus> .-.
L11[00:03:35] <sugoi> so this puu.sh site y'all use
L12[00:03:40] <Shuudoushi> that or stop being dumb and put the technic folder in your documents dir
L13[00:03:40] <Antheus> yes?
L14[00:03:40] <sugoi> how does one push to it?
L15[00:03:50] <Shuudoushi> you on windows?
L16[00:03:56] <sugoi> was about to use imgur to share, but i like that you guys use puu.sh
L17[00:03:57] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, linux
L18[00:03:58] <Antheus> arch
L19[00:04:04] <Antheus> it's in my /home folder
L20[00:04:17] <Antheus> /home/games/.technic
L21[00:04:22] <Shuudoushi> Antheus: I know you're on linux, move it to your documents
L22[00:04:36] <sugoi> oh i have to create an account..
L23[00:04:39] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: if you're on windows, go to puush.me
L24[00:04:43] <Shuudoushi> yep
L25[00:04:55] <Shuudoushi> and download and install an app thingy
L26[00:05:28] <sugoi> i'll pass
L27[00:05:38] <Shuudoushi> yeah, most people do
L28[00:05:44] <Shuudoushi> it is handy af though
L29[00:05:58] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, nope
L30[00:06:12] <sugoi> Shuudoushi: maybe another day
L31[00:06:20] <Shuudoushi> Antheus: did you set your home dir to read only like a dumbass?
L32[00:06:29] <sugoi> http://i.imgur.com/3DUJTnM.png
L33[00:06:35] <Antheus> no
L34[00:06:39] <Antheus> hold on
L35[00:06:52] <Shuudoushi> you may be surprised >.>
L36[00:07:13] <Antheus> nope
L37[00:07:24] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: *drools*
L38[00:07:29] <sugoi> ha really?
L39[00:07:36] <sugoi> well, openos 1.6 - there you go
L40[00:07:41] <Shuudoushi> yep, I'll be merging a bunch of stuff lol
L41[00:07:47] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, it's read and write
L42[00:08:24] <sugoi> haha wait, my df upgrade was PR'd into 1.5 some time ago
L43[00:08:29] <sugoi> :)
L44[00:08:35] <sugoi> but anyways, back to work
L45[00:08:37] <Saphire> Heh
L46[00:08:47] <Shuudoushi> Antheus: ... i'm out of ideas unless your technic folder is set to read only (which if you simply un zipped it may be the case)
L47[00:09:08] <Saphire> We need more of those standard *nix programs
L48[00:09:18] <sugoi> Saphire: got a favorite?
L49[00:09:26] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: SOS is based off of 1.4 iirc
L50[00:10:08] <Saphire> sugoi: do we have grep and find?
L51[00:10:15] <sugoi> yes and yes
L52[00:10:17] <Shuudoushi> ah, the simple things http://puu.sh/mzXpm/06a163a095.png lol
L53[00:10:21] <Saphire> SOS?
L54[00:10:32] <Shuudoushi> SecureOS, ships with OpenSecurity
L55[00:10:41] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, http://pastebin.com/AVDuJLUB
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L57[00:11:25] <Shuudoushi> Antheus: yep, freash out of ideas
L58[00:11:36] <Shuudoushi> brb, ned a drink and a smoke
L59[00:11:52] <Antheus> RIP Shuu's lungs
L60[00:12:05] <Antheus> Mimiru, What version of forge does your server run?
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L62[00:12:34] <sugoi> Saphire: man pages: grep: https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/dd0dbf7898011f6f2e268616e9b1418ded38b309/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/usr/man/grep
L63[00:12:46] <sugoi> i didn't get around to doing a man page on find, but the help options are decent
L64[00:12:48] <sugoi> https://github.com/payonel/OpenComputers/blob/dd0dbf7898011f6f2e268616e9b1418ded38b309/src/main/resources/assets/opencomputers/loot/OpenOS/bin/find.lua#L6
L65[00:16:31] <Shuudoushi> how bad is my humor? http://puu.sh/mzXHM/10d377a1af.png
L66[00:16:46] <Antheus> 1 lol
L67[00:17:15] <greaser|q> "I'm sorry $(whoami), I'm afraid I can't do that." is also fitting
L68[00:17:29] <Shuudoushi> lol
L69[00:17:50] <greaser|q> also any tis-3d users in the house? https://twitter.com/mkmagicannon/status/688940755583254528
L70[00:17:52] <MichiBot> Sun Jan 17 22:27:30 CST 2016 @mkmagicannon: Introducing the new PINsecure home security system! It really works! #TIS3D https://t.co/Y0MsbCxeDm
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L72[00:21:24] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: have you ever been on Mimirus server?
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L76[00:34:44] <sugoi> i haven't
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L79[00:40:24] <Shuudoushi> I've been thinking about building a school on it, but Mimiru isn't a fan of having a bunch of random people on the server lol
L80[00:40:45] <Shuudoushi> Antheus: how the fuck do you keep falling out of the world?
L81[00:40:48] <sugoi> gamax92: can you tell me a little about what init is doing with component.invoke(computer.getBootAddress(), method, ...)?
L82[00:41:12] <Shuudoushi> been wondering that myself >.>
L83[00:41:48] <gamax92> calls a method on what ever component the booting filesystem is
L84[00:43:17] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: I would love to see more runlevel stuff in OC 1.6
L85[00:43:31] <Shuudoushi> mostly a computer.setRunLevel() >.>
L86[00:43:51] <sugoi> Shuudoushi: i have a branch with a lot of rc stuff - but again...i'm crazy low on ram (that is, negative, i have to optimize)
L87[00:44:05] <Shuudoushi> T.T
L88[00:44:06] <Shuudoushi> lol
L89[00:44:16] <sugoi> gamax92: is that eeprom or some object created by machine.lua?
L90[00:44:43] <sugoi> Shuudoushi: right now, i'm ~11k below threshold
L91[00:44:50] <Shuudoushi> ouch
L92[00:45:41] <gamax92> which is?
L93[00:45:53] <sugoi> 50k free
L94[00:46:05] <sugoi> 50k is our agreed limit
L95[00:46:17] <sugoi> i have loftier goals, but that's the hard limit
L96[00:46:33] <gamax92> I mean this object thing, what do you mean
L97[00:47:08] <sugoi> to get my job done i don't really need to know, but i'm just curious where this boot fs object is defined
L98[00:49:52] <gamax92> get boot address literally just returns the address of what file system it's booting from
L99[00:50:55] <sugoi> k
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L104[01:19:15] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: have you succeeded where I failed?
L105[01:19:34] <gamax92> I'm in bed
L106[01:19:57] <Shuudoushi> gave up on it for now too eh
L107[01:22:59] <Antheus> Shuudoushi, /kill
L108[01:23:08] <Shuudoushi> eh?
L109[01:24:01] <Shuudoushi> oh, and Antheus, the things attached to the cloud moves
L110[01:25:36] <Shuudoushi> there has to be a better way to run my login script...
L111[01:34:30] <Saphire> "There has to be a better way" heh
L112[01:34:33] <Shuudoushi> time for bed, got a busy day tomorrow...
L113[01:35:04] <Shuudoushi> right now it's in /boot and called z_login.lua ...
L114[01:35:45] <Shuudoushi> nit all
L115[01:36:26] <Antheus> :P
L116[01:36:28] <Antheus> good night Shuudoushi
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L126[03:39:17] <Lizzy> o/
L127[03:41:36] <Saphire> \o
L128[03:49:25] <DeanIsaKitty> \o
L129[03:57:38] * Saphire boops the kitty with a paw
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L132[04:42:14] <Vexatos> shred -v /dev/sda
L133[04:42:21] <Vexatos> never thought I'd do that U:
L134[04:42:45] <SF-MC> I'd imagine only if /dev/sda had sensitive data that had to be *gone*
L135[04:43:04] <Vexatos> My grandpa is giving back his crappy PC he just bought :P
L136[04:43:18] <Vexatos> so I'm just making sure >_>
L137[04:43:21] <SF-MC> bought from you? bought from store?
L138[04:43:26] <SF-MC> store probably
L139[04:43:26] <Vexatos> yea
L140[04:43:39] <Vexatos> and it's as fast as his old, 6-year-old one
L141[04:43:41] <Vexatos> was €400
L142[04:43:46] <Vexatos> so something's wrong
L143[04:43:50] <SF-MC> yeaaaah
L144[04:44:22] <Vexatos> In Germany, you can give back and get all your money back within 14 days after purchase without having to say why
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L146[04:44:41] <SF-MC> interesting
L147[04:45:00] <Vexatos> And 2 years guaranteed warranty just like usual
L148[04:45:09] <Vexatos> i.e. if it went boom by itself and you have a reason
L149[04:45:14] <SF-MC> right
L150[04:45:35] <SF-MC> reminds me of a luck out I had
L151[04:45:37] <Vexatos> so yea, shredding the drive right now just because
L152[04:45:41] <SF-MC> right
L153[04:45:50] <SF-MC> Like... 2nd PS3 died on me
L154[04:46:01] <SF-MC> And it was out of the 1 year warranty
L155[04:46:02] <SF-MC> buuut
L156[04:46:13] <SF-MC> State law (Washington) had extended it
L157[04:46:22] <SF-MC> so it was still under warranty :D
L158[04:47:12] <SF-MC> I dunno how I managed to cycle through 2 of the damn things though
L159[04:47:31] <SF-MC> Think I'm on the third one
L160[04:47:47] <ven000m> hey guys, what does "OG" mean?
L161[04:48:00] <SF-MC> and I'm over-protective of it lest it go bad too
L162[04:48:08] <SF-MC> Warranty is probably out on this one too
L163[04:48:47] <SF-MC> ven000m: Google says "Original Gangsters"
L164[04:48:49] <Vexatos> heh
L165[04:49:02] <Vexatos> yea Germany is rather customer-friendly on things like electronics
L166[04:49:07] <ven000m> http://www.mc-market.org/forums/109/
L167[04:49:11] <SF-MC> According to Urban Dictionary
L168[04:49:59] <SF-MC> ven000m: no idea in context
L169[04:50:10] <ven000m> oh found:
L170[04:50:10] <ven000m> An OG account is a rare account that has a name such as a verb/noun/place/animal etc. This makes the account value go up.
L171[04:51:51] <SF-MC> how the hell is there a market for this?
L172[04:52:18] <g> there's a market for anything if you're smart enough
L173[04:52:29] <SF-MC> s/smart/stupid/
L174[04:52:30] <MichiBot> <g> there's a market for anything if you're stupid enough
L175[04:52:39] <g> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/11958060/Plastic-bag-charge-People-are-now-selling-rare-plastic-bags-on-eBay.html
L176[04:52:40] <SF-MC> buying friggin *usernames*
L177[04:52:44] <SF-MC> ffs
L178[04:52:53] <ven000m> x)
L179[04:54:58] <SF-MC> I smell rice
L180[04:55:00] <SF-MC> that's weird
L181[04:55:10] <SF-MC> dunno where the hell that's coming from
L182[04:56:19] <g> that link there is about people in the UK being pissed at having to pay 5p for a plastic bag at the store
L183[04:56:32] <g> I wonder if that guy sold his 5 bags for 1k
L184[04:56:57] <g> people in the UK have been stealing trollies, baskets, and bags instead of just.. bringing their own bags to the store
L185[04:57:29] <Inari> important times of the day: 00:00:00, 01:05:27, 02:10:55, 03:16:22, 04:21:49, 05:27:16, 06:32:44, 07:38:11, 08:43:38, 09:49:05, 10:54:33, 13:37:**
L186[04:57:55] <SF-MC> Explain
L187[04:58:24] <Inari> they're the times when minute and hour clockhands overlap :P
L188[04:58:29] <Inari> except for the last
L189[04:58:38] <SF-MC> I noticed the last
L190[04:59:13] <Lizzy> what about 10:24:**
L191[04:59:17] <Lizzy> :P
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L202[06:08:47] <MajGenRelativity> Good Morning
L203[06:08:53] <g> Good afternoon
L204[06:09:13] <SF-MC> hi
L205[06:10:59] <Saphire> Hi
L206[06:11:29] <DeanIsaKitty> sup
L207[06:12:14] <MajGenRelativity> not much
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L210[06:26:53] <Turtle> ... rant incoming: Why the fuck does IE block file access on windows server AND ONLY ALLOWS HTTP URI WHITELISTING
L211[06:27:39] <SF-MC> Turtle: because Microsoft stole IE then wrote absolute trash over top
L212[06:28:13] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I assume some sort of workaround because security on IE is horribly broken?
L213[06:28:37] <Turtle> This is also the IE that got shipped on windows server 2008
L214[06:28:40] <SF-MC> s/security on//
L215[06:28:41] <MichiBot> <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle: I assume some sort of workaround because IE is horribly broken?
L216[06:28:44] <Turtle> the OLD one, before it got unshitted slightly
L217[06:28:45] <SF-MC> ftfy
L218[06:29:19] <DeanIsaKitty> SF-MC: No, security on IE is broken on a whole different level
L219[06:29:21] <Turtle> I -really- want to start sledgehammering things now >.> Just let me fucking install java so I can put the weird application uni has for databases on the server
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L221[06:31:38] <DeanIsaKitty> SF-MC: For example, IE before 10 did not use ASLR at all. Which meant you could quite easily get a reliable remote code execution exploit going.
L222[06:31:57] <Sandra> DeanIsaKitty, ASLR?
L223[06:32:01] <MGR|away> What is the latest IE version?
L224[06:32:10] <SF-MC> 11 I think
L225[06:32:20] <SF-MC> Microsoft traded it for Edge though
L226[06:32:22] <SF-MC> btw
L227[06:32:23] <MGR|away> Yeah
L228[06:32:24] <SF-MC> rant on that
L229[06:32:26] <SF-MC> srsly
L230[06:32:31] <SF-MC> "Whole new browser!"
L231[06:32:33] <MGR|away> Is Edge good? never tried it
L232[06:32:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Sandra: Adress space layout randomization.
L233[06:32:47] <DeanIsaKitty> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization
L234[06:32:48] <SF-MC> Logo looks like fucking Internet Explorers!
L235[06:32:53] <Sandra> it /is/ a complete rewrite of IE though.
L236[06:33:06] <MGR|away> well, ok
L237[06:33:24] <MGR|away> I'll just keep using Google Ultron
L238[06:33:29] <DeanIsaKitty> tbh, edge gets some things right.
L239[06:33:40] <MGR|away> It is 2 times the speed of chrome, and 9000% faster than most browsers
L240[06:34:07] <SF-MC> MGR|away: yeah, because Microsoft intergrated the damn thing into the OS
L241[06:34:30] <MGR|away> Microsoft integrated Google Ultron?
L242[06:34:34] <MGR|away> O_O
L243[06:34:52] <MGR|away> Never fill a form again! Ultron knows all your information by hacking your computer and retrieving data from your SSN, Credit Card and Email.
L244[06:34:54] <Sandra> what's google ultron??
L245[06:35:04] <SF-MC> Were you talking about Ultron? Thought you were talking about Edge...
L246[06:35:07] <SF-MC> my bad
L247[06:35:11] * Lizzy groans
L248[06:35:15] <SF-MC> Sandra: new Google browser (aparently)
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L250[06:35:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Sandra: http://www.googleultron.com/#
L251[06:35:34] <MGR|away> SF-MC Google Ultron is the ultimate browser
L252[06:35:53] <MGR|away> I must go, but I'm sure someone here can explain it
L253[06:35:54] <MGR|away> :P
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L255[06:36:11] <Lizzy> thank fuck he's gone
L256[06:37:08] <SF-MC> btw
L257[06:37:17] <SF-MC> I heard that Edge isn't a rewrite
L258[06:37:20] <DeanIsaKitty> SF-MC / Sandra please don't take ultron seriously. Its a joke by this guy https://github.com/jcpyun
L259[06:37:27] <SF-MC> or at least the most important part isn't
L260[06:37:34] <SF-MC> oh
L261[06:37:37] <SF-MC> okay then
L262[06:37:49] <DeanIsaKitty> SF-MC: JS engine is rewritten, HTML engine at least mostly new.
L263[06:37:55] <Sandra> yeah.
L264[06:37:56] <Lizzy> SF-MC, Edge is just IE that isn't so tightly intergrated with the system internals
L265[06:38:22] <AlexisMachina> Lizzy: why?
L266[06:38:28] <Lizzy> ?
L267[06:38:32] <AlexisMachina> 7:36:11 <Lizzy> thank fuck he's gone
L268[06:38:38] <SF-MC> It apparently is using a fork of Trident (whatever the hell they call it now)
L269[06:38:49] <SF-MC> Internet Explorer's render engine
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L271[06:39:43] <DeanIsaKitty> SF-MC: Fork in the widest sense. It pretty much completely rewritten by now
L272[06:42:46] <SF-MC> No way for either of us to verify though
L273[06:44:16] <DeanIsaKitty> Yeah, but I couldn't care less anyway
L274[06:44:20] <Cruor> Lizzy: ruuuuude D:
L275[06:45:06] <DeanIsaKitty> Cruor: At least our oper doesn't kick people she doesn't like at random.
L276[06:45:57] <Cruor> we dont have an oper like that in the channel at the moment even .-.
L277[06:45:58] * vifino groans and flops on Lizzy
L278[06:46:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Cruor: Could be. I haven't been over for ages.
L279[06:54:59] * Saphire sneaks near vifino and Lizzy
L280[06:55:16] * Lizzy pets vifino
L281[06:55:29] <AlexisMachina> lol
L282[06:56:05] * vifino purrs
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L287[07:24:14] <Skye> Afternoon
L288[07:24:32] <Lizzy> o/
L289[07:24:48] <SF-MC> hiya
L290[07:24:57] <vifino> Afternom.
L291[07:25:08] <MajGenRelativity> Hi
L292[07:25:30] <DeanIsaKitty> Morning ^^
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L294[07:26:01] <vifino> DeanIsaKitty: It's food time, not morning.
L295[07:26:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Its TSFH time
L296[07:27:04] <vifino> MumbleFH when
L297[07:27:31] <DeanIsaKitty> MumbleFromHell? Nah, thank you
L298[07:28:59] <vifino> I'd rather be a mumble away from hell rather than two steps.
L299[07:30:15] <SF-MC> ah
L300[07:30:19] <SF-MC> to be super powerful
L301[07:30:23] <SF-MC> <3
L302[07:40:46] * Lizzy wouldn't mind hell, it'd be a lot warmer than outside
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L304[07:40:55] <Lizzy> brb, going outside to get chips
L305[07:41:00] <SF-MC> mmmmmm warm
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L307[07:45:49] <vifino> Lizzy: I wouldn't mind if you'd be there. :P
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L310[07:59:55] <Lizzy> and back
L311[07:59:58] <Lizzy> vifino, :3
L312[08:00:46] <Inari> i wouldnt mind Outside, it sounds like a great mmo in concept
L313[08:09:37] <malcom2073_> Too many trolls and scammers
L314[08:10:13] <Inari> too little trolls and you'd have no mobs to kil though
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L316[08:19:14] <Lizzy> also pvp and pve are frowned upon
L317[08:20:02] <Inari> oooh sharex update
L318[08:23:58] <Lizzy> is it bad that i've just been staring at my computer blankly for the past few minutes? it currently has the matrix screensaver if that helps any
L319[08:25:07] <Inari> if bein gincredibly bored is bad, then yeah
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L321[08:35:16] <malcom2073_> Why in the world are you people bored?
L322[08:35:21] <malcom2073_> There's *SO* much to do
L323[08:35:57] <Inari> cause theres nothing interesting to do right now
L324[08:35:58] <Inari> :P
L325[08:36:26] <malcom2073_> There's a million interesting things to do right now!
L326[08:36:37] <Inari> well rihgt now i'd be mostly interested in a good game
L327[08:36:47] <Inari> i dont have or know any games thats eem good or interesting atm
L328[08:36:48] <Inari> so yeah
L329[08:36:48] <Inari> xP
L330[08:37:15] <Inari> having something to do isnt the opposite of boredom, for some reason people dont understand that either
L331[08:37:58] <malcom2073_> Erm, technically, it's exactly the opposite: "feeling weary because one is unoccupied"
L332[08:38:07] <malcom2073_> :P
L333[08:38:30] <Inari> "feeling weary because one is unoccupied or lacks interest in one's current activity."
L334[08:38:37] <malcom2073_> <or> being the operative word there
L335[08:38:44] <Inari> exactly
L336[08:38:47] <Inari> so you can be occupied
L337[08:38:49] <Inari> but still lack interest
L338[08:38:50] <Inari> :p
L339[08:39:02] <Inari> hence having something to do doesnt mean you aren tbored
L340[08:39:30] <malcom2073_> Having something to do is an option against boredom. *doing* something on the other hand doesn't mean you aren't bored.
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L342[08:40:12] <malcom2073_> As you don't get how people don't understand how someone can be bored, I don't get how anyone can get bored with life. Two opposite sides of the same argument I suppose
L343[08:48:42] <Lizzy> malcom2073_, i'm at work, and i'm tired
L344[08:55:33] <Michiyo> It snowed...
L345[08:55:36] <Michiyo> but not much :(
L346[08:55:38] <dangranos> Yay!
L347[08:55:42] <dangranos> Awww
L348[08:55:50] *** Daiyousei is now known as Hanako_Ikezawa
L349[08:56:30] <Michiyo> And my boss is out for the week
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L351[08:57:08] <Michiyo> some conference.. so woo party tiem!
L352[08:58:23] <Inari> malcom2073_: by there not being anything to do that seems intersting in the particular mood and stiuation ;)
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L361[10:10:23] <Michiyo> BLEEEEEEEH
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L363[10:16:35] <takaqod> Hi
L364[10:17:00] <takaqod> Is there a forum admin connected?
L365[10:17:14] <vifino> Why?
L366[10:17:37] <takaqod> i create my account yesterday and post my first topic this afternoon
L367[10:17:59] <takaqod> i believe it has to be verify before beeing public
L368[10:18:23] <takaqod> this is right?
L369[10:19:14] <Michiyo> Yeah, IIRC it's first 3 posts, give me a minute I'm at work :P
L370[10:20:00] <Michiyo> takaqod link to your topic?
L371[10:20:26] <takaqod> i don't know i can re-view it :/
L372[10:20:37] <takaqod> it's in support/misc
L373[10:20:45] <Michiyo> I got it
L374[10:20:56] <takaqod> ah thanks :)
L375[10:21:58] <Michiyo> Luckily my boss is out of town this week, and my co-worker doesn't care
L376[10:24:36] <takaqod> i've got a question otherwise about openprograms
L377[10:26:09] <takaqod> the persons in charge of the organization are the 8 one listed on the github page 'people'?
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L380[10:29:20] <Michiyo> It's mainly Vexatos afaik
L381[10:30:19] <vifino> ^
L382[10:31:47] <takaqod> ok thanks
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L388[11:31:15] * Saphire flops on tables
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L390[11:36:11] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos
L391[11:36:48] <Michiyo> Kodos build 78 fixes shortest distance rotation
L392[11:36:57] <Michiyo> so 90 to 360 does 90 to 0
L393[11:38:11] <Kodos> Nice!
L394[11:38:34] <asie> uhh
L395[11:38:39] <asie> Sangar, you gotta see this
L396[11:38:42] <asie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMolpzybKxw
L397[11:38:42] <MichiBot> asie: LuPi2 - First real raspberry pi run! | length: 1m 29s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 27 | by L Magiera
L398[11:38:46] <asie> Magik ported the OpenComputers API to the Raspberry Pi
L399[11:38:50] <asie> and managed to boot Plan9k on real hardware
L400[11:39:09] <asie> it's currently very slow tho
L401[11:39:22] <Kodos> That's still pretty damn awesome
L402[11:39:31] <asie> still using Linux, tho
L403[11:42:47] <MajGenRelativity> Hi
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L405[11:52:38] <Izaya> oh cool, MultiMC update
L406[11:53:25] <Lizzy> well, i have windows booted on my new board and stuff, except it doesn't have the drivers for the usb hubs so i can't do any user input and my account has a password on it .-.
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L408[11:53:52] <Lizzy> do i have a usb to ps2 adapter anywhere....
L409[11:54:12] <sugoi> asie: so it says LuPi os, but that's plan9k shell -- is this magik's plan9k + something else?
L410[11:54:18] <Izaya> no PS/2 keyboard?
L411[11:54:30] <Lizzy> Izaya, nope, not had one of them in years
L412[11:54:35] <Izaya> huh
L413[11:54:42] * Izaya has several in a box somewhere here
L414[11:54:48] <Izaya> the adaptors never work for me \o/
L415[11:55:48] <Lizzy> aha, found 2
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L417[11:56:34] <Rutex> Hello guys
L418[11:56:46] <Lizzy> hi
L419[11:56:57] <MajGenRelativity> Hello
L420[11:57:10] <Michiyo> But yeah Kodos if you could test the rotation thing for me from a bunch of angles it'd be great.. I did limited testing but had to crash for work today so said screw it and ran the build
L421[11:58:07] <Michiyo> Also shift clicking upgrades into/out of the turret works, and they drop when you break it now
L422[11:58:29] <sugoi> gamax92: weirdest thing....my ocemu on windows for the first time ever is showing its frame
L423[11:58:58] <Michiyo> afk, wooooork
L424[11:59:00] <sugoi> gamax92: and i have a breadcrumb of a clue why -- i'm doing a lot of memory logging on boot, and the first thing i do, first line of init, is i sleep 40 times
L425[11:59:43] <MajGenRelativity> Of course
L426[11:59:48] <MajGenRelativity> Always sleep
L427[11:59:54] <MajGenRelativity> Never not sleep sugoi
L428[12:00:36] <sugoi> just saying, maybe there is some sdl initialization that doesn't get to run fully if the 'machine' doesn't play nice at the start
L429[12:01:14] <MajGenRelativity> Sleep more
L430[12:03:13] <sugoi> now it's not working again..
L431[12:03:25] <sugoi> i.e. it's back to normal
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L433[12:03:43] <S3> vifino, FSK / Ethernet
L434[12:05:09] <vifino> ?
L435[12:05:23] <Michiyo> damn SQL server was swapping and eating up 99% CPU :/
L436[12:08:00] <Michiyo> anyway
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L439[12:08:46] <PedroBarbosa> Hi
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L442[12:09:17] <PedroBarbosa> I left my Robot do some mining work and now, when I'm back it stopped and the Robot name keeps changing don't know why
L443[12:09:23] <PedroBarbosa> And i can't right click to see screen
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L445[12:09:51] <sugoi> PedroBarbosa: does the server persist oc state?
L446[12:10:04] <sugoi> there are 2 configs options i would look at
L447[12:10:12] <sugoi> persisting state and buffering filesystems
L448[12:11:51] <PedroBarbosa> Where is that? Config?
L449[12:11:57] <PedroBarbosa> Folder?
L450[12:12:31] <PedroBarbosa> Whats the config name?
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L452[12:14:43] <PedroBarbosa> sugoi: Is it normal?
L453[12:14:57] <sugoi> default settings should work
L454[12:15:19] <sugoi> so unless a server admin is messing with oc config, it shouldn't be because of this
L455[12:16:30] <Michiyo> can't right click the screen, and name keeps changing sounds like the robot might have somehow corrupted..
L456[12:16:35] <sugoi> under the server instance root config/OpenComputers.cfg
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L458[12:17:24] <sugoi> yeah, and filesystem is not buffered and there is a world crash (as an example) then the filesystem could become corrupt
L459[12:17:48] <sugoi> default, it is buffered
L460[12:18:03] <Michiyo> yes.. but the name is stored in the robot nbt, not the filesystem though, right?
L461[12:18:34] <MajGenRelativity> Robot corruption sounds bad
L462[12:18:36] <PedroBarbosa> wait, ill upload a video
L463[12:18:49] <MajGenRelativity> If it makes any sudden moves with a sword, watch out
L464[12:18:54] <MajGenRelativity> It could be an uprising
L465[12:18:58] <Michiyo> ._.
L466[12:19:05] <sugoi> Michiyo: yes, that's true
L467[12:19:12] <PedroBarbosa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCdba4Kv4ww&feature=youtu.be
L468[12:19:12] <PedroBarbosa> Here
L469[12:19:16] <MichiBot> PedroBarbosa: Bug - OpenComputers | length: 15s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 0 | by WantedLab
L470[12:20:41] <sugoi> PedroBarbosa: could you make an issue and link the video?
L471[12:20:52] <Kodos> Woo, mom's first flight made it safely to SFO
L472[12:21:03] <sugoi> PedroBarbosa: https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues
L473[12:21:13] <PedroBarbosa> ok
L474[12:21:19] <PedroBarbosa> should i try to break it and place it again?
L475[12:21:54] <Michiyo> wow... that's strange..
L476[12:22:27] *** rakiru|offline is now known as Kasen
L477[12:22:35] <Michiyo> But yeah.. Naomi will murder me if I don't play FFXIV with her tonight, so I can't do OpenSec testing heh
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L479[12:23:13] <Michiyo> We were supposed to play yesterday on my day off... but I spent the entire day fixing crap with the turrets
L480[12:23:46] <PedroBarbosa> I breaked it and the name is Robot.name and has no components
L481[12:24:12] <Michiyo> Yeah, the robot itself is corrupted...
L482[12:24:13] <Michiyo> fun
L483[12:27:21] <Michiyo> PedroBarbosa are you the server admin by chance, or can you get the admin to look for any kind of errors in the server log?
L484[12:27:40] <Michiyo> OC is usually pretty good about logging it's errors
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L486[12:31:00] <Kodos> How hard would it be to have an IRC bot track flights by airline and flight number?
L487[12:31:33] <g> Kodos: depends on the available APIs and how much they cost
L488[12:31:41] <Michiyo> ^
L489[12:31:59] <Kodos> Google can do it, would that work?
L490[12:32:09] <g> <g> Kodos: depends on the available APIs and how much they cost
L491[12:32:19] <Kodos> Fuck if I know
L492[12:32:21] <g> it's not a necessarily simple task
L493[12:32:26] <S3> okay guys
L494[12:32:42] <S3> don't use a zigbee to communicate with a GPS if you have it connected to your windows box.
L495[12:32:44] <MajGenRelativity> It is so easy MGR can do it?
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L497[12:32:48] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L498[12:32:59] <S3> windows thinks it's a serial mouse and every time you get GPS data it moves your mouse on the screen...
L499[12:33:09] <MajGenRelativity> LOL
L500[12:33:35] <Michiyo> lol...
L501[12:33:36] <Michiyo> nice
L502[12:34:38] <Michiyo> Kodos some APIs are free, others aren't.. and most of the time you get what you pay for.
L503[12:34:46] <Kodos> Ah, fair enough then
L504[12:34:52] <Kodos> I'll just do
L505[12:34:54] <Kodos> %g United 300
L506[12:34:55] <MichiBot> Kodos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY2dhZ30axY - United 300 (MTV Movie Award Spoof Winner) - YouTube: "Dec 18, 2008 ... Revisit the original and most respected "300" parody - where 300 Spartans stand
L507[12:34:58] <Kodos> Or not
L508[12:34:59] <S3> ok. Time to reboot and continue working on my BBS!
L509[12:35:07] <S3> for MC
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L511[12:35:19] <S3> also I am working on my forth compiler for OC
L512[12:35:26] <S3> it's almost done
L513[12:35:31] <Michiyo> %g United airlines 300
L514[12:35:31] <MichiBot> Michiyo: https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/767/300ER/default.aspx - Boeing 767-300 (763) | United Airlines: "View Boeing 767-300 seating and specifications on United aircraft using this
L515[12:35:33] <Michiyo> maybe?
L516[12:35:34] <Michiyo> idk
L517[12:35:44] <MajGenRelativity> BBS? What is that S3?
L518[12:35:46] <Michiyo> #blamegooglesearchapi
L519[12:36:00] <Michiyo> %google bbs
L520[12:36:00] <MichiBot> Michiyo: http://bbs.com/en/ - BBS R��der - Home - Technik aus dem Motorsport: "BBS R��der ��� feste Gr����e im Motorsport, begehrt bei qualit��ts- und
L521[12:36:04] <Michiyo> meh
L522[12:36:04] <Michiyo> :p
L523[12:36:06] <g> Michiyo, Google Now does it by scanning your emails
L524[12:36:19] <Michiyo> yes.. but you can just google "United 300" and get flight info
L525[12:36:21] <g> also, nice lack of unicode support there
L526[12:36:22] <g> :P
L527[12:36:27] <MajGenRelativity> Google Ultron knows by hacking your computer
L528[12:36:52] <Kodos> MGR don't be a twat
L529[12:37:53] <Michiyo> anyway BBS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulletin_board_system
L530[12:38:19] <MajGenRelativity> Sounds fancy
L531[12:38:31] <MajGenRelativity> Thanks Michiyo
L532[12:38:47] <MajGenRelativity> I'm going to go
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L536[12:54:41] <Kubuxu> I've made it quicker: https://youtu.be/FMolpzybKxw
L537[12:54:53] * Kubuxu saves day again.
L538[12:55:12] <Vexatos> What is that D:
L539[12:55:25] <Vexatos> watz
L540[12:55:50] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: OC for RPi, LuPi starts instead of init process.
L541[12:56:05] <Vexatos> how is it slower than actual OC though
L542[12:56:21] <Vexatos> I mean, OC has artificial speed limitations ;_;
L543[12:56:26] <Kubuxu> Sorry this is the new one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angbVh-slU0
L544[12:56:27] <MichiBot> Kubuxu: Second LuPi test on RPi | length: 35s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 5 | by L Magiera
L545[12:56:37] <Kubuxu> It is faster, much faster and will be much much faster.
L546[12:57:05] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: ^^
L547[12:57:30] <Stary2001> shiny
L548[12:58:42] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, but the draw speed seems worse than anything I've ever seen before
L549[12:58:43] <Vexatos> ;_;
L550[12:59:09] <Kubuxu> because it converts from VT100 to native OC calls and then OC calls to VT100
L551[12:59:14] <Kubuxu> or something similar.
L552[12:59:30] <Vexatos> but how can it be THAT slow
L553[12:59:39] <Vexatos> even the Pi 1 can run a decent OS just fine
L554[12:59:57] <Kubuxu> Have you seen the second version? That is much faster.
L555[13:00:24] <Kubuxu> Magik haven't got to make it draw natively yet, but will.
L556[13:00:39] <Magik6k> ^
L557[13:00:43] <Vexatos> ah so drawing isn't native yet
L558[13:00:46] <Vexatos> well that explains it
L559[13:01:22] <Kubuxu> No, as I said, oc's GPU calls are converted into terminal calls.
L560[13:03:12] <Vexatos> so is it actually plan 9? >_>
L561[13:04:09] <Kubuxu> it is Plan9Rk
L562[13:04:32] <Sangar> o/
L563[13:04:39] <Vexatos> o\
L564[13:04:41] <Kubuxu> Sangar: watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angbVh-slU0
L565[13:04:42] <MichiBot> Kubuxu: Second LuPi test on RPi | length: 35s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 13 | by L Magiera
L566[13:05:02] <Kubuxu> It is improved version over what Magik sent you before.
L567[13:06:06] <Sangar> p9k on a pi? :O
L568[13:06:36] <Sangar> awesome
L569[13:06:37] <Kubuxu> Yup, OpenOS almost works.
L570[13:07:16] <Kubuxu> LuPi2 runs as init process and emulates OC.
L571[13:07:27] <Kodos> Speaking of, I may or may not get a Pi2, my brother is getting one and if he doesn't like it, he said I can buy it off him
L572[13:07:36] <Sangar> oh my
L573[13:07:54] <Sangar> so it's actually the same lua code that runs/would run in mc?
L574[13:08:02] <Kubuxu> Yes.
L575[13:08:16] <Sangar> amazing
L576[13:08:23] <asie> Sangar: just wait for what i'm doing
L577[13:09:01] <Vexatos> inb4 OpenOS on macintosh classic
L578[13:09:04] <Sangar> :X
L579[13:09:17] <Sangar> video conversion openos running on pi to stream to openos running in mc? :P
L580[13:09:35] <Vexatos> OpenOS emulating a Pi running OpenOS
L581[13:09:58] <Sangar> tis-3d emulating a pi running openos?
L582[13:10:05] <Vexatos> With only MOV
L583[13:10:49] <Sangar> wouldn't have it any other way
L584[13:11:11] <MajGenRelativity> Snagar, you can do it
L585[13:11:12] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: sadly mac classing use a 68000 which does to my knowledge not have a quite as bloated mov as x86
L586[13:11:21] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: Magik almost has coded containers into P9k, so running OpenOS in P9k isn't that far off.
L587[13:11:26] <Kodos> Can I MOV something from a specific spot on a stack module, or does it work like first in first out
L588[13:11:59] <Sangar> Kubuxu, xen? :P
L589[13:12:11] <Vexatos> Kodos, it is a STACK module
L590[13:12:16] <Sangar> Kodos, lifo
L591[13:12:18] <Vexatos> _stack_
L592[13:12:27] <Sangar> for addressed memory, use the ram module
L593[13:13:04] <Kodos> Ah, okay
L594[13:13:07] <Kodos> Ah, neat
L595[13:13:30] <Kodos> Just gotta figure out how to draw numbers on the display module now
L596[13:13:39] <Kodos> Or, get a 7 seg display module
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L599[13:14:03] <Kodos> Actually, a unionjack display module would be good
L600[13:14:07] <Sangar> i used the display module for 7 seg numbers on btm :X my implementation was... messy. but it worked!
L601[13:14:22] <Kodos> Do you happen to remember the code
L602[13:14:27] <Skye> Kodos, use Vic's ICs and bundled redstone! :P
L603[13:14:42] <Sangar> a propos bundled redstone
L604[13:14:46] <Sangar> iirc i need to fix shit
L605[13:16:41] <Kodos> I think wireless redstone should be changed
L606[13:17:01] <Kodos> Instead of having to set the frequency in a separate method, we should be able to call the frequency as a parameter in the toggling function
L607[13:17:35] <Sangar> nah. that'd make the card equal to as many wr redstone emitters as there are channels
L608[13:17:45] <Sangar> the point is to keep it equivalent to one transmitter
L609[13:18:32] <Kodos> Ah, fair enough, I hadn't thought about it like that
L610[13:18:36] <Kodos> Any plans for more rackmountables?
L611[13:19:29] <Sangar> tbh, i'll be happy if i manage to fix stuff and port 1.6 to 1.8 at all at my current productivity levels >_> so not for the time being, no
L612[13:19:58] <Vexatos> Kodos, stop. asking. Please
L613[13:19:59] <Kodos> Okay, I'll bug addon devs for rack RAIDS then =D
L614[13:20:12] <sugoi> oh hi Sangar !
L615[13:20:14] <Kodos> Vexatos: What's your issue with me asking
L616[13:20:17] <Sangar> oh, i don't need to fix shit, i need to push fixed versions to curse >_> ugh
L617[13:20:18] <Vexatos> You annoy every OC-related dev and their dog about those
L618[13:20:31] <Sangar> sugoi, heya!
L619[13:21:13] <Kodos> Vexatos: You're welcome to /ignore me
L620[13:21:30] * DeanIsaKitty hugs Sangar
L621[13:21:40] <Vexatos> Sangar, TL;DR: Your latest term API PR merge bloated OpenOS to hell and beyond
L622[13:21:43] * Lizzy hugs DeanIsaKitty who is hugging Sangar
L623[13:21:52] <sugoi> he knows, i told him
L624[13:21:56] <sugoi> payonel is on it
L625[13:22:06] <Vexatos> ,-,
L626[13:22:41] <Kubuxu> Sangar: https://beam.pro/asiekierka , asie run it Zipit Z2
L627[13:23:22] <Sangar> Vexatos, it's not bloat if it serves a purpose :P also i'm told some more optimizations are incoming, so hey
L628[13:23:32] <Kodos> Mimiru: Do you have a dog? I need to ask him about rack mountables
L629[13:23:52] <Mimiru> erm wa?
L630[13:24:03] <Lizzy> <+Vexatos> You annoy every OC-related dev and their dog about those
L631[13:24:05] <Mimiru> Also, just got home for lunch
L632[13:24:06] <Sangar> i have a cat if that helps
L633[13:24:18] <Lizzy> Sangar, yes you do, it's DeanIsaKitty
L634[13:24:19] <Mimiru> Oh yeah.. I have a cat, sorry
L635[13:24:19] <Kodos> Sangar: please ask them about rack mounted raids for me
L636[13:24:20] <Lizzy> :P
L637[13:24:24] * Lizzy hides
L638[13:24:26] <Kodos> You too, Mimiru
L639[13:24:37] <Sangar> Kubuxu, hm?
L640[13:25:02] <DeanIsaKitty> Hm, what? ... Lizzy you little shit!
L641[13:25:08] <Kubuxu> Camera problems right now, Zipit Z2 is small computer-like
L642[13:25:20] * Lizzy can be heard giggling in the distance
L643[13:25:31] <Kubuxu> https://beam.pro/asiekierka <- started again
L644[13:25:40] <Sangar> oh. oooooh.
L645[13:25:51] <Skye> hahahahah
L646[13:25:52] <vifino> hahahaha
L647[13:26:09] <gamax92> Sangar stop making openos use more memory
L648[13:26:24] <gamax92> you and your stupid viewport
L649[13:26:26] <vifino> asie: I approve of thy zipit.
L650[13:26:28] <Sangar> is there a way to have a non-thumbnail sized vid? :X
L651[13:27:26] <Kubuxu> reopen: https://beam.pro/asiekierka or click on the thumbnail
L652[13:27:44] <Kubuxu> That camera shouldn't be called camera though.
L653[13:29:32] <Vexatos> Kubuxu, camera has the same power as the computer it's recording
L654[13:29:37] <Vexatos> and same resolution
L655[13:30:14] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: asi.e disagrees.
L656[13:31:02] <gamax92> sugoi: you like ocemu, right?
L657[13:32:01] <Sangar> dat camera-on-book setup
L658[13:33:14] <Sangar> well, i could read the 'starting plan9k shell' at least. so that's wicked :3
L659[13:33:23] <Kubuxu> It is ANSI C book.
L660[13:34:00] <Vexatos> so uuuuuuh
L661[13:34:09] <Vexatos> in other news, I need to buy my fourth calculator
L662[13:34:17] <Vexatos> because the other three I own (€500 in total) are all too good
L663[13:34:19] <Vexatos> :X
L664[13:34:27] <Sangar> gg
L665[13:34:28] <Vexatos> Anyone got any recommendations for a non-programmable one?
L666[13:34:38] <Vexatos> non-programmable one who can't draw graphs
L667[13:34:47] <Sangar> abacus
L668[13:35:05] <Vexatos> not precise enough
L669[13:35:38] <Vexatos> current at this one http://www.amazon.de/Casio-FX-991DE-technisch-wissenschaftlicher-Rechner-nat%C3%BCrlichem/dp/B0050OTQ42
L670[13:35:57] <asie> Sangar: so this is plan9k on a 3-inch display
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L672[13:37:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: I use(d) the FX-82ES, also an arduino, a small battery and a flat diplay module fit neatly inside one of those :P
L673[13:38:24] <Vexatos> Doubt that's legal to use because of the "non-programmable" part :P
L674[13:39:04] <DeanIsaKitty> Hey, without an arduino its non programmable. I mean you're university but my teachers never looked too closely. xP
L675[13:40:04] <Sangar> asie, awesome! how do draw speeds compare? video on it feasible?
L676[13:40:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Oh god, that'll be fun <.>
L677[13:40:42] <Kubuxu> He is recording better video now.
L678[13:41:13] <Kubuxu> Take into consideration that: 1. It is 300Mhz 2. Draws couldn't be made in worst way.
L679[13:41:55] <Kubuxu> Currently the driver is emulating OC's GPU to terminal.
L680[13:42:01] <asie> Sangar: it's going to stay private for now
L681[13:42:07] <asie> because it's not done
L682[13:42:11] <asie> also 720p coming up
L683[13:42:55] <asie> in 3-4 minutes
L684[13:43:06] <Sangar> okeh :)
L685[13:43:53] <Vexatos> DeanIsaKitty, also you were probably not studying chemistry amirite
L686[13:44:20] <Vexatos> asie: /r/feedthebeast :3
L687[13:44:21] <DeanIsaKitty> Vexatos: No, you know that <.<
L688[13:45:33] <asie> Vexatos: No.
L689[13:48:17] <Vexatos> everyone here seems to be using that calculator
L690[13:48:24] <Vexatos> so I guess I'll just get that one >_>
L691[13:49:04] <Vexatos> I've got a damn TI Voyage 200, TI 82 stats and a Casio FX-9860-GII damnit
L692[13:49:07] <Kubuxu> I am using TI84+
L693[13:49:33] <asie> Sangar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klCMgEQGhd8&feature=youtu.be
L694[13:49:35] <MichiBot> asie: OpenComputers Pocket | length: 40s | Likes: 0 Dislikes: 0 Views: 4 | by asciicharismatic
L695[13:50:16] <Sangar> :3
L696[13:50:20] <Sangar> sweet
L697[13:50:33] <Sangar> curious, what's the eeprom component in this context?
L698[13:50:34] <Vexatos> Cruor ^
L699[13:51:11] <Magik6k> Sangar, ethier built-in string of user file
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L701[13:52:11] <Magik6k> Sangar, https://github.com/StarChasers/LuPI2/blob/master/src/lua/core/eeprom.lua#L6
L702[13:52:27] <Sangar> ah
L703[13:53:17] <Mimiru> Back to work
L704[13:53:49] <Sangar> src/c/ oh my
L705[13:54:01] <Sangar> i shall henceforth point anyone looking for an emulator to this :X
L706[13:54:18] <gamax92> :c
L707[13:54:21] <gamax92> fuck you too
L708[13:54:24] <Vexatos> Sangar, you can literally run this on a potato
L709[13:54:32] <Vexatos> provided said potato provides a C compiler
L710[13:54:45] <CompanionCube> don't even need that
L711[13:54:49] <Vexatos> sudo make potato
L712[13:54:55] <CompanionCube> if you have a cross-compiler for the potato
L713[13:54:56] <Vexatos> sudo alias bake=make
L714[13:55:01] <Vexatos> bake potato
L715[13:55:42] <CompanionCube> what happens if you cook it too long
L716[13:56:08] <gamax92> Sangar: this isn't even an emulator
L717[13:56:08] <Sangar> gamax92, after them then complaining "wtfisthis" i'll point them to ocemu :P
L718[13:56:29] <CompanionCube> it's better than an emulator
L719[13:56:38] <CompanionCube> it's native :3
L720[13:57:16] <gamax92> it's not comparable to an emulator, it's just a low level lua environment with a api style similar to opencomputers
L721[13:57:44] <Sangar> in other words, emulating the oc api? :P
L722[13:57:49] <Vexatos> gamax92, it literally runs plan9k without any changes
L723[13:58:00] <Vexatos> sounds quite emulating to me
L724[13:58:08] <gamax92> yeah since when does opencomputers have gpio?
L725[13:58:32] <gamax92> or a component.register type thingy?
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L727[13:59:22] <Vexatos> Driver.add
L728[13:59:29] <gamax92> Vexatos: not lua?
L729[13:59:36] <Vexatos> So what?
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L731[14:01:11] <Kubuxu> Either way it is much higher abstraction than original LuPi which was baremetal on RPI.
L732[14:01:53] <Sangar> either way it's pretty cool ;)
L733[14:03:05] <Kubuxu> asi.e is working on linux framebuffer support for native draw speeds
L734[14:04:02] <gamax92> that however would be nice, I'm terrible at SDL
L735[14:05:07] <gamax92> the only reason the rectangle and font cache exists is because LOVE2D dev explained some of that stuff to me.
L736[14:05:17] <sugoi> i saw the LuPi video asie linked with plan9k shell. is that running magik's plan9k? is there a github of that LuPi project/
L737[14:05:36] <g> what on earth is lupi?
L738[14:05:41] <gamax92> I need to watch, waiting for update crap to finish :/
L739[14:06:07] <Vexatos> Magik6k, is that entire thing done in pure ANSI C?
L740[14:06:08] <sugoi> gamax92: speaking of sdl, did you see my comment about how i finally had a real sdl window frame:) which btw hasn't happened again
L741[14:06:16] <gamax92> no?
L742[14:06:36] <Kubuxu> Vexatos: c99
L743[14:06:46] <sugoi> yeah, had a window frame and it was nice, the only thing different i was doing was i had a lot of computer.pullSignal(0) during boot to check memory
L744[14:06:51] <Vexatos> awww
L745[14:06:59] <Kubuxu> sugoi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angbVh-slU0
L746[14:07:00] <MichiBot> Kubuxu: Second LuPi test on RPi | length: 35s | Likes: 1 Dislikes: 0 Views: 17 | by L Magiera
L747[14:07:00] <sugoi> but then it didn't happen after that, no idea
L748[14:07:30] <Sangar> can someone please come up with something with an n to append to that so we can call it LuPiN? :X
L749[14:07:51] <Kubuxu> LuPi, now version 2, is native OC Emulator/SYstem.
L750[14:08:02] <Kubuxu> https://github.com/StarChasers/LuPI2
L751[14:08:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, LuPeN
L752[14:08:47] <Sangar> then the next iteration could be LuPiN the third >_>
L753[14:09:14] <Kodos> Huehue
L754[14:09:29] <gamax92> wow that's a tiny computer
L755[14:09:53] <gamax92> sugoi: are you saying you have no window border or title bar on your computer?
L756[14:11:19] <sugoi> gamax92: never have, has only ever happened once, this morning
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L758[14:12:26] <gamax92> sugoi: I don't exactly see how I'd be causing a window decorator to not do it's job
L759[14:12:44] <sugoi> yeah i have no idea, and i haven't cared so much
L760[14:12:52] <sugoi> at the end of the day, i have an oc emulator, and that's awesome
L761[14:13:22] <sugoi> also i understand windows os isn't your target host
L762[14:13:27] <sugoi> or so i assume
L763[14:13:36] <gamax92> it's harder to dev for
L764[14:14:05] <sugoi> i've asked you like 5 times, i always forget........which do you use?
L765[14:14:22] <gamax92> linux primarily?
L766[14:14:28] <sugoi> yeah, which distro
L767[14:14:32] <gamax92> ubuntu mate
L768[14:14:59] <gamax92> I wish GitHub had collapsible sections
L769[14:15:25] <gamax92> there's an html5 thing I could use, but it's not widely supported.
L770[14:15:53] <Kubuxu> arch is my life
L771[14:16:25] <sugoi> k maybe i'll try a vbox guest of ubuntu mate to test it out in
L772[14:17:55] <gamax92> Sangar: how does oc draw it's screen, the background and foreground are separately update-able elements, right?
L773[14:18:02] <g> Kubuxu: not on a server I hope
L774[14:18:18] <g> also, if you like arch, try gentoo
L775[14:18:21] <g> you won't be disappointed
L776[14:18:22] <g> :P
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L778[14:18:39] <Sangar> gamax92, yes, line by line, but combining equally colored background cells into one larger quad where possible
L779[14:19:35] <gamax92> ahh, I mean if I did that it would just be two giant textures
L780[14:19:43] <gamax92> can't do opengl
L781[14:19:51] <Inari> http://imgur.com/gallery/7t8UjRK
L782[14:21:48] <Kubuxu> g: on sever, why not arch? I won't spend hours compiling on gentoo
L783[14:21:57] <Kubuxu> also on server
L784[14:22:50] <g> Kubuxu, it's not stable
L785[14:23:06] <g> also, it's totally worth it for gentoo
L786[14:23:12] <g> but you could also just go with the defaults and save some time
L787[14:23:50] <Kubuxu> I don't have any stability probes apart from someone forgetting to install intel-ucode
L788[14:25:03] <Magik6k> Vexatos, https://github.com/StarChasers/LuPI2/commit/05086757e3160169023d196f7ae6834df86f25a4
L789[14:25:22] <Vexatos> wub
L790[14:25:27] <Vexatos> NOW it literally runs on a potato
L791[14:26:53] <Vexatos> Inari, glorious
L792[14:27:14] <Inari> Vexatos: *figuratively
L793[14:28:30] <Vexatos> Magik6k, now you can't really go much more potato-level than this
L794[14:28:31] <Vexatos> I approve
L795[14:28:42] <Vexatos> of this omnicompatible plan9k
L796[14:28:51] <Vexatos> (almost)
L797[14:29:09] <gamax92> I do not approve
L798[14:29:49] <gamax92> Magik6k: do better
L799[14:30:05] <gamax92> also the difference between wlen and len is that wlen is length in screen space not character space
L800[14:30:27] <gamax92> if you're just doing a terminal, you can probably get away with making it len since you don't really know
L801[14:31:21] <Kodos> http://www.curse.com/mc-mods/minecraft/235136-parcels-and-packages Woo
L802[14:35:46] <MajGenRelativity> Kodos, is that your mod?
L803[14:35:56] <Kodos> No
L804[14:36:04] <Kodos> My mod is called Industrial Dyes, but isn't public
L805[14:36:04] <MajGenRelativity> Oh, ok
L806[14:36:15] <MajGenRelativity> What does your mod add?
L807[14:36:16] <Kodos> I'm going to be workong on K-Matter 2.0 soon too
L808[14:36:39] <Kodos> IDyes is just a set of dyes, so I have a streamlined set of dye items
L809[14:36:48] <MajGenRelativity> Oh, ok
L810[14:36:54] <MajGenRelativity> What is K Matter?
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L814[14:38:55] <Kodos> REmember UUM before it was a liquid?
L815[14:39:02] <MajGenRelativity> No
L816[14:39:19] <MajGenRelativity> I am new to IC2
L817[14:39:39] <Kodos> Well basically it's Universal Utility Matt- actually hang on
L818[14:40:08] <Kodos> http://feed-the-beast.wikia.com/wiki/UU-Matter
L819[14:41:25] <MajGenRelativity> Ok, so is it functionally different from liquid UU?
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L821[14:42:41] <Kodos> It's basically exactly like UUM back when UUM was an item
L822[14:42:47] <Kodos> 1.4.7 days
L823[14:43:22] <MajGenRelativity> What is the advantage to an item form over liquid?
L824[14:45:19] <Kodos> Better storage
L825[14:45:22] <Kodos> Barrels and such
L826[14:45:44] <Kodos> Honestly, K-Matter started as a mod for myself because I preferred the Item UUM instead of the liquid
L827[14:46:47] <MajGenRelativity> Kodos, bedrockium drum
L828[14:47:19] <Kodos> Indeed, but those are occasionally a pain to make, depending on what pack oyu're playing and/or how the pack is set up
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L830[14:49:01] <MajGenRelativity> Fair enough
L831[14:49:34] <Vexatos> you forgot the most important reason
L832[14:49:37] <Vexatos> autocrafting
L833[14:49:52] <Vexatos> How could one not make UUM and automate everything around it
L834[14:50:07] <MajGenRelativity> You can auto-make stuff from UU liquid
L835[14:50:14] <MajGenRelativity> The replicator can do repeat runs
L836[14:50:19] <Vexatos> who cares
L837[14:50:21] <Vexatos> not the same
L838[14:50:44] * MajGenRelativity shrugs
L839[14:50:47] <Vexatos> The Replicator is like a boring GregTech UUMachinery ripoff
L840[14:51:07] <Vexatos> Because GT did it first and better.
L841[14:52:00] * MajGenRelativity shrugs again
L842[14:52:04] <MajGenRelativity> I'm new to IC2
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L845[15:10:10] <Michiyo> Bleh
L846[15:10:52] <Michiyo> Kodos had a chance to test the new rotation stuff?
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L850[15:15:30] <Kodos> Not yet, been busy
L851[15:16:33] <Michiyo> kk
L852[15:17:20] <Michiyo> really wish the big pack that has OpenSec in it would pick up a few of my other mods... and possibly update OpenSec too lol
L853[15:18:23] <Kodos> Which pack
L854[15:19:18] <Michiyo> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/space-astronomy
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L857[15:21:15] <Michiyo> They're on a build with that annoying FS bug that causes odd component issues if 2 networks connect to a card reader even for a second
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L859[15:22:13] <Michiyo> err card writer..
L860[15:23:40] <g> OpenSecurity looks neat
L861[15:23:47] <g> you have yourself a new user
L862[15:23:48] <g> :P
L863[15:23:50] <Michiyo> woot
L864[15:24:12] <Michiyo> I have moar mods tooooo :P
L865[15:24:19] <Michiyo> OpenPrinter which adds... printers..
L866[15:24:20] <Michiyo> :P
L867[15:24:30] <Michiyo> It also scans lol
L868[15:25:10] <MajGenRelativity> Michiyo, my modpack will have the latest OS :)
L869[15:25:14] <g> heeeey
L870[15:25:15] <MajGenRelativity> It also updates once a month, usually
L871[15:25:18] <g> that's an oc-controlled radio
L872[15:26:05] <g> Michiyo, does this fix the issues dragon's radio mod has?
L873[15:26:16] <Michiyo> Which one?
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L875[15:26:30] <g> it used to crap out sometimes, and it ignored the jukebox volume slider
L876[15:27:05] <Izaya> okay, wikia is weird
L877[15:27:10] <Izaya> was on a wiki for a mod
L878[15:27:24] <Izaya> http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/feed-the-beast/images/5/50/Wiki-background/revision/latest?cb=20151112055608 that is the background
L879[15:27:26] <Izaya> obviously
L880[15:27:29] <Michiyo> well, I've tried to fix the "crap out randomly" issue.. and yes it uses the jukebox volume
L881[15:27:48] <g> hm, that sounds promising then
L882[15:27:52] <Michiyo> it also streams MP3 and Vorbis streams and files
L883[15:28:06] <g> also, OpenLights - it doesn't support coloredlight now, so does it cast coloured light at all, or?
L884[15:28:14] <Skye> Yuno?
L885[15:28:15] <Michiyo> No
L886[15:28:24] <g> alright, I kinda figured since it must be a massive hack
L887[15:28:36] <Michiyo> yeah... I should see about adding support back in
L888[15:28:42] <Michiyo> but it was a hassle..
L889[15:29:08] <Izaya> Skye, yes, I do
L890[15:29:12] <Izaya> but yeah what the hell wikia
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L894[15:35:48] * XP01 waves
L895[15:37:01] <Izaya> A mistake?
L896[15:37:24] <DeanIsaKitty> well, he came in here...
L897[15:37:35] <Izaya> ... oh yeah
L898[15:37:36] <Izaya> right
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L901[15:38:23] <Izaya> So what was the mistake
L902[15:38:24] <Izaya> ?
L903[15:38:27] * XP01 did /join #oc 3 times
L904[15:38:45] <Izaya> gg
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L906[15:43:39] <Lizzy> https://imgur.com/gallery/C4zcSnP
L907[15:46:28] <AlexisMachina> lol
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L917[16:04:14] <MajGenRelativity> hi gamax92
L918[16:04:40] <Inari> hm anyone know of a lua funtion overloading lib?
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L920[16:05:15] <Inari> oh gues thers one on lua-users even
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L922[16:05:45] <gamax92> hi Maj
L923[16:06:00] <gamax92> I can attend server later, am currently mac n cheese
L924[16:06:02] <gamax92> pls no eat
L925[16:08:51] * vifino picks up Lizzy and carries her to bed
L926[16:09:00] <MajGenRelativity> gamax92, that's fine
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L929[16:25:10] <Inari> meh
L930[16:25:17] <Inari> is there any guide to writing commandline programs xD
L931[16:25:29] <vifino> wat
L932[16:25:47] <Inari> maybe im just trying to overengineer it :P
L933[16:26:13] <Inari> just feels like doing lots of if params[X] == "Y" then is stupid
L934[16:26:32] <vifino> that's lua for you.
L935[16:26:53] <Inari> if params[3] == "items" then handleItemsCmd(opts, params) end
L936[16:26:58] <Kodos> My mother lands in Honolulu in about 4 hours
L937[16:27:00] <Inari> if params[4] == "scan" then dothat end
L938[16:27:00] <Inari> etc
L939[16:27:07] <Inari> wondering if theres no better way :P
L940[16:27:35] <greaser|q> paramhandles["Y"] = function() ... end
L941[16:27:41] <Inari> sure
L942[16:27:46] <Inari> that only works for one level of commands though xD
L943[16:27:47] <greaser|q> the nice thing about lua is there usually is a better way
L944[16:28:04] <Inari> or hm
L945[16:28:20] <Inari> maybe im even doing the input wrongly :P
L946[16:29:44] <Inari> so uh... maybe a guide on how to structure the user input :P
L947[16:29:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Kodos: wait what?
L948[16:30:43] <Kodos> Mom and stepdad are spending 10 days in Waikiki
L949[16:30:48] <Kodos> They left early this morning
L950[16:30:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah
L951[16:31:11] <Inari> http://www.cs.pomona.edu/classes/cs181f/supp/cli.html guess i'll read that
L952[16:31:20] <sugoi> Inari: if you share a bit more with me i might have some feedback for you
L953[16:31:47] <sugoi> oh you're building cli
L954[16:31:51] <sugoi> yeah, that's not easy
L955[16:32:03] <Inari> not sure if thats the right term, but i guess
L956[16:32:10] <sugoi> well i mean, it is easy but can quickly become messy
L957[16:32:23] <Inari> basically writing a program to manage my crafting system :P but hard to make it nice for the user to input stuff and have the code be nice too
L958[16:32:33] <sugoi> yep
L959[16:32:35] <sugoi> yeah, cli
L960[16:32:43] <Inari> so much for "I'll use cil, thats easier than gui" :P
L961[16:33:04] <sugoi> well cli is wicked easy if you are okay with esoteric and brittle
L962[16:33:26] <DeanIsaKitty> A basic cli is waay easier than a basic gui. But a good and nice to look at cli is pretty hard to do
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L966[16:57:25] <Inari> i guess i'll split it into 4 programs
L967[16:57:28] <Inari> that'll at least make it simpler
L968[17:00:57] <Shuudoushi> %seen gopher
L969[17:00:58] <MichiBot> Shuudoushi: gopher has not been seen.
L970[17:01:07] <Shuudoushi> yeah, figured as much...
L971[17:01:35] <Michiyo> %seen Gopher
L972[17:01:37] <MichiBot> Michiyo: Gopher has not been seen.
L973[17:01:43] <Michiyo> huh.. that long huh
L974[17:01:51] <Shuudoushi> yeah
L975[17:02:10] <Shuudoushi> I was hoping he would beable to give me a bit of insight on how to use gml...
L976[17:02:24] <Michiyo> Use it.
L977[17:02:28] <Kodos> Check with Magi, I think it got stuck in P9K
L978[17:02:31] <Michiyo> Kenny figured it out... it can't be THAT bad.
L979[17:02:39] <Kodos> ^ Pretty much that
L980[17:02:40] <Shuudoushi> LMFAO
L981[17:02:46] <Shuudoushi> harsh XD
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L983[17:02:49] <Shuudoushi> but true...
L984[17:02:52] <Kodos> Did you ever meet Kenny?
L985[17:03:02] <Shuudoushi> a couple times
L986[17:03:18] <Kodos> Were you here when he ragequit
L987[17:03:28] <Shuudoushi> no T.T
L988[17:05:15] <Shuudoushi> Mimiru: have you put any thought into how the mag reader should be implemented in SOS for allowing login with mag cards?
L989[17:05:34] * Michiyo slaps Shuudoushi
L990[17:05:34] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L991[17:05:39] <Shuudoushi> b/c I sure as fuck haven't lol
L992[17:06:38] * Shuudoushi glares at Mimiru.
L993[17:06:53] <Michiyo> ...
L994[17:07:00] * Shuudoushi slaps Mimiru with a shoe horn.
L995[17:07:00] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing
L996[17:07:01] <Michiyo> Well, I'm glad I'm not Mimiru then..
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L998[17:07:16] <Shuudoushi> you're one in the same
L999[17:07:47] <Michiyo> Why are you pinging the nick that is at home though.. lol
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L1001[17:08:34] <Shuudoushi> b/c it still pings you last i checked
L1002[17:08:59] <Shuudoushi> oh, a new version of project red is out...
L1003[17:09:03] <Shuudoushi> when the fuck...
L1004[17:09:12] <Michiyo> Except.. it doesn't
L1005[17:09:40] <Shuudoushi> ...
L1006[17:10:02] <Michiyo> This client exists to disable SED if/when kibibyte joins, and enable it when it parts
L1007[17:10:10] <Michiyo> it just so happens I also use it to chat from work.
L1008[17:10:17] <Shuudoushi> ah
L1009[17:10:36] <Michiyo> Since it's on Bast and I can RDP into bast from work and not leave stuff around on the work PCs
L1010[17:12:19] <Michiyo> Anyway as far as loging in via mag card with SOS... just write some ID to a card map that ID to a username and on swipe check if the ID is allowed to login.
L1011[17:12:38] <Michiyo> if so, just shortcut your login script to log them in with $username
L1012[17:13:21] <gamax92> Shuudoushi: hai
L1013[17:13:59] <Michiyo> Also, we made 12.29 today, cause someone had a $60 return -_-
L1014[17:16:13] <gamax92> Michiyo: I don't think you can raise a family with that kind of income
L1015[17:17:32] <Michiyo> pfft *I* made $56 today..
L1016[17:17:39] <Michiyo> the STORE did not though :/
L1017[17:21:48] <Izaya> Thought: Using Thaumcraft is asking for your surroundings to murder you
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L1019[17:28:58] <Shuudoushi> gamax92: hi o/
L1020[17:29:12] <Shuudoushi> Izaya: TRUTH
L1021[17:31:45] <Shuudoushi> I forgot that super added this to the auth lib... --Shection (Shuu+Section)
L1022[17:32:16] <Izaya> Shuudoushi, I'm looking at the bases of the people on the server that actually touch TC
L1023[17:32:28] <Izaya> and there's like a load of taint surrounding them
L1024[17:32:35] <Shuudoushi> but ofc :D
L1025[17:36:16] <CompanionCube> achievenebt get
L1026[17:36:19] <CompanionCube> cause evince to segfault
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L1031[17:57:41] <Shuudoushi> hmmm
L1032[17:58:46] <Shuudoushi> I wonder if I should add something extra to rm so if you try to remove the contents of /tmp/trash/ it permanently deletes the contents, without the need to use -n
L1033[18:00:23] <Shuudoushi> eh, too much work, not enough interest
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L1041[18:37:29] <Shuudoushi> have to be up pretty early to get parts for my car, so im heading to bed all o/
L1042[18:37:38] <Izaya> \o
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L1047[19:15:14] <Izaya> how many solar panels can I fit into a drone?
L1048[19:18:32] <greaser|q> hmm, are OC 1.6 builds on the build server
L1049[19:18:41] <greaser|q> i'm looking for stuff that works with 1.8.9
L1050[19:19:15] <Mimiru> greaser|q, no
L1051[19:19:28] <greaser|q> dammit
L1052[19:19:31] <Mimiru> latest dev builds are 1.5 still
L1053[19:19:49] <Mimiru> you'll have to build 1.6 yourself, or find the builds Lizzy compiled, if she did 1.8.9
L1054[19:20:09] <Mimiru> 1.7.10 has 1.6 builds looks like
L1055[19:20:29] <greaser|q> i've got eclipse sort of set up with MDK
L1056[19:20:32] <Mimiru> but everything 1.8+ is 1.5.22
L1057[19:20:41] <greaser|q> but no idea how to get the damn thing to actually build
L1058[19:21:06] <Mimiru> afk
L1059[19:21:09] <sugoi> gamax92: memory load is so inconsistent
L1060[19:21:16] <sugoi> it's driving me a bit crazy
L1061[19:21:57] * gamax92 nods ...
L1062[19:21:58] <greaser|q> ok seems there's info on how to make the damn thing work
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L1067[19:33:04] <sugoi> gamax92: i run collectgarbage as best i can. i'm doing operation a, b, c, and d --- they each have very consistent loads between runs. i change code for c -- now a and b suddenly load less, c loads the same, and d loads more
L1068[19:33:12] <sugoi> makes no sense, i think i'm losing my mind
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L1070[19:34:55] <gamax92> sugoi: where are you testing this in
L1071[19:35:37] <sugoi> in-game
L1072[19:35:58] <sugoi> and then it's costing me ~150 bytes per function callback i create
L1073[19:36:14] <sugoi> it's ... annoying
L1074[19:39:18] <sugoi> oh hey,wow, that 150 byte cost appears to be all upvalues (i have only two)
L1075[19:39:22] <sugoi> interesting....
L1076[19:40:22] <greaser|q> ok, decompileMc is running out of heap space, not sure how to get the heap size above 1GB using gradle
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L1078[19:41:29] <Sharidan> greetings everyone :)
L1079[19:41:37] <greaser|q> setupDevWorkspace seems to build OK
L1080[19:41:38] <greaser|q> 'lo
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L1082[19:42:51] <Sharidan> is there a way to retrieve the screen (screen blocks) setup? say I have a 3 block high and 5 block wide big-screen attached to the computer
L1083[19:43:55] <Saphire> no
L1084[19:44:17] <Saphire> Why the hell you want that?
L1085[19:44:54] <Sharidan> adaptive resolution setup
L1086[19:45:44] <Sharidan> it's fine. I didnt expect to find a hidden method that can tell me the screen setup :)
L1087[19:45:53] <Kodos> Maybe we could get a getScreenRatio method or something
L1088[19:46:15] <Kodos> ~w screen
L1089[19:46:15] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:screen
L1090[19:46:22] <Sharidan> it would be nice if the screen api could expose the multi-block setup somehow
L1091[19:46:26] <Kodos> Oh
L1092[19:46:30] <Kodos> getAspectRatio
L1093[19:46:33] <Kodos> You can already do that
L1094[19:46:42] <Kodos> Sharidan: ^
L1095[19:46:46] <Sharidan> it does! yay!
L1096[19:46:52] <Sharidan> dang, I missed that on the docs
L1097[19:46:56] <Kodos> Heh
L1098[19:46:56] * Sharidan feels stupid now
L1099[19:47:22] <Sharidan> thanks Kodos :)
L1100[19:47:55] <Kodos> Yup
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L1102[19:49:09] <Sharidan> I've only just recently moved over to OC, so I'm still getting used to the doc wiki
L1103[19:49:29] <sugoi> Sharidan: it's ready for an series of updates (the wiki)
L1104[19:49:42] <sugoi> after 1.6 is out, we'll give is a nice make over
L1105[19:49:57] <sugoi> we need a pimp-my-wiki sponsor
L1106[19:50:05] * gamax92 can donate you $0
L1107[19:50:17] <sugoi> i'll try not to spend all of that in one place
L1108[19:50:47] <Sharidan> what kind of sponsorship are we talking?
L1109[19:51:14] <sugoi> $, babysitting, and pto
L1110[19:51:21] <sugoi> well, pto is sufficient i guess
L1111[19:51:29] <sugoi> (paid time off)
L1112[19:51:30] <sugoi> :)
L1113[19:52:38] <Sharidan> well, I could probably throw a bit of $ after it :)
L1114[19:53:19] <sugoi> well being serious, if you want to donate to anything, donate to sangar's patreon, not me
L1115[19:53:38] <sugoi> but that won't affect my time to improve the wiki, but i do plan to
L1116[19:53:48] <Sharidan> oh I plan to next month :)
L1117[19:54:11] <sugoi> i know he appreciates it
L1118[19:54:16] <Sharidan> the more I learn about OC, the more I regret not moving over sooner
L1119[19:54:21] <sugoi> haha
L1120[19:54:35] <Sharidan> community is so much nicer and better than CC's :)
L1121[19:54:53] <CompanionCube> OC is also much more flexible :)
L1122[19:55:12] <Sharidan> so true!
L1123[19:55:24] <sugoi> we're better looking too
L1124[19:55:32] <CompanionCube> even to the point of being able to create entirely new types of computer
L1125[19:55:34] <Sharidan> I bet - lol
L1126[19:55:55] <greaser|q> i'd love to get ARMv4 working
L1127[19:56:27] <Sharidan> I started migrating my railcraft ticket stand app over to OC but then decided I'd re-write it from scratch instead
L1128[19:57:24] <_habnabit> is there something about modem_message that makes it that you can't event.listen with modem_message? i only seem to get messages if i use event.pull
L1129[19:58:10] <gamax92> greaser|q: :D
L1130[19:58:36] <greaser|q> hmm, i wonder how much RAM gcc actually uses
L1131[19:58:46] <greaser|q> then again it uses a LOT of disk space, so eh
L1132[19:59:17] <CompanionCube> >gcc
L1133[19:59:19] <CompanionCube> why not lcc or tcc
L1134[19:59:23] <_habnabit> clang
L1135[19:59:29] <gamax92> why not both?
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L1137[20:05:28] <Sharidan> ok, so according to the wiki, there's a 256 color palette on a tier 3 setup (graphics card + screen), but if I try to reference a palette index above 15 I get invalid palette index
L1138[20:05:48] <Kodos> Are you using a T3 APU by chance?
L1139[20:05:49] <Sharidan> how would I got about referencing the last 240 entries? or do they don't exist anymore?
L1140[20:06:05] <_habnabit> (doesn't APU only go up to T2?)
L1141[20:06:08] <Sharidan> nope - t3 grahpics card in a t3 case with t3 screens
L1142[20:06:09] <Kodos> Yes, I just realized that
L1143[20:09:00] <Kodos> %g truncate
L1144[20:09:00] <MichiBot> Kodos: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/truncate - Truncate | Define Truncate at Dictionary.com: "Truncate definition, to shorten by cutting off a part; cut short: Truncate detailed
L1145[20:09:08] <AlexisMachina> o/
L1146[20:09:14] <greaser|q> T3 APU == creative APU
L1147[20:09:38] <Kodos> Is truncate the proper word for the process of shortening something like 10,000,000 to 10M?
L1148[20:09:42] <greaser|q> and also you cannot edit above entry 15, the remaining 240 forms an RGB 6:8:5 cube
L1149[20:09:45] <_habnabit> Kodos, no
L1150[20:09:52] <_habnabit> Kodos, 'abbreviate' perhaps
L1151[20:11:15] <Sharidan> yeah, I get that I can't change the entries above 15, but if I try to setForeground(color: number[, isPaletteIndex: boolean]) and for example enter .setForeground(20, true) the code crashes out with: invalid palette index
L1152[20:12:25] <Sharidan> I assume that I just don't know how to properly point to the palette indexes above 15
L1153[20:14:00] <_habnabit> is there any way to find which modems are reachable from a given modem?
L1154[20:15:22] <Sharidan> you could do a simple ping?pong! setup to check if they can communicate
L1155[20:15:36] <_habnabit> that's what i've been trying, but i'm not receiving anything
L1156[20:15:46] <_habnabit> i don't know if it's the network or something with the modems
L1157[20:15:57] <gamax92> Sharidan: you can't reference the 240 colors specifically, only by arbitrary RRGGBB and having it be mapped
L1158[20:16:43] <Sandra> oh my goodness.
L1159[20:16:54] <Sandra> my phone was very easily fixed wow.
L1160[20:17:10] <Sharidan> gamax92: aha ok
L1161[20:17:39] <_habnabit> the dmesg program will show modem events, right?
L1162[20:18:34] <Sharidan> _habnabit: wireless modems?
L1163[20:18:49] <_habnabit> no, two servers in a rack with wired modems
L1164[20:19:03] <_habnabit> the rack is set to local switch enabled
L1165[20:19:15] <_habnabit> (i'm using OC from git, so i have the new server rack)
L1166[20:21:31] <Saphire> _habnabit: there are auto builds..
L1167[20:22:17] <_habnabit> Saphire, not with my patches
L1168[20:22:35] <Saphire> Ah
L1169[20:23:54] <greaser|q> alright, i've had a little bit of a quick test with TCC (tiny c compiler), the x86_64 version once stripped compiles to ~182KB, i'd need to get a cleaner cross setup before i get an arm-on-arm version
L1170[20:27:03] <_habnabit> ugh the worst part is i can't replicate this behavior locally, in an environment where it's easier to run a debugger
L1171[20:30:38] <greaser|q> ok, i tried to build OC 1.6 for 1.8.9, it failed with a bunch of everything not found messages and AFAIK they're ALL in the scala files
L1172[20:30:51] <greaser|q> where the hell do i get the api dependencies from
L1173[20:31:37] <_habnabit> greaser|q, using gradle?
L1174[20:31:49] <greaser|q> ...may need to rerun something, but what exactly
L1175[20:32:26] <Mimiru> did you setupDecompWorkspace/setupDevWorkspace?
L1176[20:32:26] <Izaya> OpenSecurity door controllers are indestructable, right?
L1177[20:32:38] <greaser|q> i did the latter, and i got it into idea
L1178[20:32:45] <greaser|q> (after gradlew idea of course)
L1179[20:32:46] <Mimiru> Ops, creative users, and the owner Izaya
L1180[20:32:56] <greaser|q> the snag is it needed me to dl a scala SDK
L1181[20:33:00] <Izaya> Explosions?
L1182[20:33:04] <greaser|q> and in doing so i had to symlink java to where it normally lies
L1183[20:33:10] <Mimiru> See my above list Izaya.
L1184[20:33:16] <Izaya> Right.
L1185[20:33:39] <Mimiru> Everything else it just cancels the break event
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L1187[20:35:35] <Izaya> Welp, time to line the walls with door controllers.
L1188[20:36:05] <CompanionCube> lol
L1189[20:36:24] <Mimiru> you can camo them too
L1190[20:36:27] <greaser|q> by indestructible do you mean explosionproof or literally indestructible
L1191[20:36:43] <Mimiru> they can not be broken by anyone, or anything not in my previous list.
L1192[20:36:49] <Izaya> I mean perfect for PVP: Will survive nukes and diamond pickaxes
L1193[20:36:53] <greaser|q> former sounds like a good idea, latter is... pretty ridiculous
L1194[20:40:41] <greaser|q> should be fine to survive nukes, but diamond pickaxes should be able to break it
L1195[20:40:50] <greaser|q> even if it does take a whole minute
L1196[20:45:32] <greaser|q> ...ok it helps if you use the gradle tasks instead of clicking Build -> Make Project
L1197[20:46:18] <_habnabit> that is, in fact, why i asked
L1198[20:47:04] <greaser|q> it took a while to find the gradle tab on the right hand side
L1199[20:47:39] <Mimiru> I just fire up a command prompt and type ./gradlew build
L1200[20:47:40] <Mimiru> ?
L1201[20:47:49] <Sharidan> ugh, I sure hope playernames wont be removed from the click events
L1202[20:48:27] <Mimiru> Why.. why would they be?
L1203[20:48:55] <Sharidan> well, it says on the wiki that they might be removed
L1204[20:50:11] <Sharidan> on the component:signals page it says, quote: "Note on the player name: I'll probably add an option to disable this argument in the future, for those who think it's too unrealistic. It's just quite handy for multi-user programs, so I left it in for now."
L1205[20:50:58] <Sharidan> it is indeed very handy for multi-user setups, so I'd cry salty tears if that got removed, as it provides an excellent interface for apps to know who's actually activating things in the app
L1206[20:52:10] <Mimiru> Well, option != removed just keep it enabled :P
L1207[20:52:46] <Sharidan> true, but the app can't always expect that to be the case on any server
L1208[20:53:50] <Sharidan> it'll stay enabled on my own environment for sure :)
L1209[20:54:52] <Saphire> you could issue an replacement?
L1210[20:57:15] <Sharidan> I'll figure a work-around if it becomes a problem
L1211[21:06:36] <Sharidan> let's say I have a t2 computer/screen setup with a few registered users. if I remove the keyboard from it, to make it touch screen only, will anyone on server be able to interact with that touch screen or only the registered users?
L1212[21:08:12] <Sandra> Sharidan, the option already exists, yes.
L1213[21:08:49] <Sandra> also the user system is part of the computer itself iirc.
L1214[21:09:04] <Sandra> so /that/ won't be broken by removing the event.
L1215[21:10:07] <Sharidan> yea I've been reading up on the wiki docs. just wanted to make sure that I can protect the computer itself, while allowing everyone on server to use the touch interface on screen to hit buttons etc.
L1216[21:11:37] <Sharidan> I'm recreating my railcraft ticket stand in OC for our railcraft transportation network on our server
L1217[21:13:27] <Sandra> Sharidan, oh, the touch interface iirc is still blocked by the registered users.
L1218[21:13:31] <Sandra> or maybe it's not....
L1219[21:14:20] <Sharidan> I guess I'll have to give it a test run then
L1220[21:15:07] <Sharidan> would be nice if I could take advantage of the registered users list to determine who can edit the station list in each ticket stand
L1221[21:15:27] <Sandra> Sharidan, just use the username parameter.
L1222[21:15:59] <Sandra> or alternatively, network it.
L1223[21:16:03] <Sharidan> that was my initial thought, but then I started thinking about securing the computer case itself to prevent tampering
L1224[21:16:13] <Sandra> have a frontend with no users, that everyone can use.
L1225[21:16:26] <Sandra> and then have a backend with registered users, with the list on it.
L1226[21:16:47] <Sharidan> yea I might have to go down that route, though I could run into a distance problem there
L1227[21:17:00] <Sharidan> one of the routes in our rail network is almost 2800 blocks
L1228[21:17:50] <Sandra> there's a: linked cards. b: wired networks (they have a large length). c: a wireless relay will relay packets along distances.
L1229[21:20:18] <Sharidan> true. I've looked at the linked cards, though I can't use them without having to use a T3 case with an APU. from there I'm not entirely sure how to cross connect everything, but I guess I could use a bunch of server racks for that to bridge everything
L1230[21:26:43] <Sandra> you can use wireless relays as well.
L1231[21:29:27] <Sharidan> yes I was considering that too, however that presents another problem: chunk loading. our rail network currently spans some 12k blocks, so networking all the stations (that's roughly 170 stations) would require quite a few additional chunk loaders to keep the network running. I might go with the linked cards option to network all of it
L1232[21:30:31] <Sharidan> but for now networking all the ticket stands is a future upgrade :)
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L1234[21:32:48] <Sandra> mmm.
L1235[21:33:20] <Sandra> I'd suggest using Server Racks.
L1236[21:33:26] <Sandra> to immense levels.
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L1238[21:34:19] <Izaya> did you know
L1239[21:34:26] <Izaya> MC dies with exitcode 9 when you kill -9 it?
L1240[21:35:22] <Sharidan> eventually I'd like to have a networked setup with a centralized control office for the entire rail network
L1241[21:35:29] <Sandra> heheheheh.
L1242[21:36:01] <Izaya> 170 stations?
L1243[21:36:04] <Izaya> Shit, man
L1244[21:36:06] <Sharidan> roughly yes
L1245[21:36:23] <Sandra> server racks filled with linked cards. :P
L1246[21:36:29] <Sharidan> yup! :D
L1247[21:36:59] <Sandra> #lua 4x4
L1248[21:36:59] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > [string "lua"]:1: unexpected symbol near '4'
L1249[21:37:04] <Sandra> #lua 4*4
L1250[21:37:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 16
L1251[21:37:14] <Sandra> #lua 16/170
L1252[21:37:14] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 0.094117647058824
L1253[21:37:22] <Sandra> #lua 170/16
L1254[21:37:22] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 10.625
L1255[21:37:31] <Sharidan> OC certainly has the capabilities I'd need to network it all
L1256[21:38:01] <Sandra> you'd need 11 server racks filled with servers filled with linked cards to network all the stations.
L1257[21:38:23] <Sandra> that is ignoring the network cards in the servers of course.
L1258[21:38:25] <Sandra> so....
L1259[21:38:26] <Sharidan> would make a nice server room :)
L1260[21:38:33] <Sandra> #lua 4*3
L1261[21:38:33] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 12
L1262[21:38:42] <Sandra> #lua 170/12
L1263[21:38:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 14.166666666667
L1264[21:38:54] <Sandra> you'd need 15 server racks actually.
L1265[21:39:07] <Sandra> :P
L1266[21:40:02] <Sharidan> that's only to cover the current rail grid - which could get expanded at any point - heh
L1267[21:40:09] <Izaya> would be a practical use for so many racks
L1268[21:40:42] <Sharidan> I usually don't do things small scale. no fun in that :)
L1269[21:41:07] <Izaya> well 15 is 5 sets of racks 3 high
L1270[21:41:15] <Izaya> if you don't neccesarily fill the racks yet
L1271[21:41:22] <Izaya> 5 isn't much
L1272[21:41:26] <Antheus> ;djla;ksgjd;lgks
L1273[21:41:26] <Sharidan> nah, not really
L1274[21:41:26] <Izaya> Go for a wall of racks.
L1275[21:41:29] <Izaya> Room for expansion.
L1276[21:41:33] * Antheus shoots self
L1277[21:41:33] <Sharidan> exactly :)
L1278[21:42:39] <greaser|q> made a 314-byte EEPROM program that plays a 32-note melody
L1279[21:42:43] <Sandra> yeah.
L1280[21:43:02] <Sandra> 15 full racks is all that's needed for a 170 point network.
L1281[21:43:20] <Sandra> writing the networking code for that though.... Whew!
L1282[21:43:28] <Sandra> glhf.
L1283[21:43:57] <Sharidan> meh, networking code will for the most part consist of bridge/relay apps
L1284[21:44:00] <greaser|q> main reason for me doing this is i'm trying to write an OS that works on arse-tier comps
L1285[21:44:29] <Sharidan> greaser|q: so you're writing a completely custom OS?
L1286[21:44:33] <greaser|q> yeah
L1287[21:44:40] <Sharidan> nice! :)
L1288[21:44:51] <Sharidan> I might visit that at some point
L1289[21:45:52] <Izaya> I did that a while ago
L1290[21:46:12] <Izaya> thinking I might need to again soon
L1291[21:46:23] <Sandra> openos worked on t1 computers... just, earlier in time.
L1292[21:46:29] <Sandra> does it not anymore?
L1293[21:46:43] <Izaya> how many solars can I put in a T2 drone?
L1294[21:46:58] <Sharidan> stuff the t1.5 memory in the t1 comp and it'll install just fine
L1295[21:47:19] <Sandra> yeah, I mean a t1 memory.
L1296[21:47:28] <Sandra> Izaya, 1 i think.
L1297[21:47:34] <Sandra> maybe.
L1298[21:47:35] <Sharidan> sadly it's too small :/
L1299[21:48:33] <Izaya> Will a single solar hold up a drone if it's idling most of the time?
L1300[21:48:52] <Kodos> %weather 62012
L1301[21:48:54] <MichiBot> Kodos: Current weather for 62012 Current Temp: 10°F/-12°C Feels Like: 1°F/-17°C Current Humidity: 78 Wind: From the WNW 6 Mph/9 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1302[21:49:13] <Izaya> %weather byron bay
L1303[21:49:14] <MichiBot> Izaya: Current weather for Byron Bay, Australia Current Temp: 86°F/30°C Feels Like: 88°F/31°C Current Humidity: 46 Wind: From the N 4 Mph/6 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1304[21:49:29] <Antheus> %weather Fort Worth
L1305[21:49:30] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Fort Worth, United States of America Current Temp: 35°F/2°C Feels Like: 32°F/0°C Current Humidity: 79 Wind: From the SSE 4 Mph/6 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1306[21:49:41] <Sharidan> %weather copenhagen
L1307[21:49:43] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Current weather for Copenhagen, Denmark Current Temp: 30°F/-1°C Feels Like: 17°F/-8°C Current Humidity: 80 Wind: From the WSW 21 Mph/33 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1308[21:49:54] <Sandra> Izaya, I'm sure it would.
L1309[21:49:54] <Antheus> I forgot it was summer where Izaya lives
L1310[21:49:57] <Sandra> it holds up a robot.
L1311[21:50:17] <Sandra> %weather newcastle
L1312[21:50:18] <MichiBot> Sandra: Current weather for Newcastle, Australia Current Temp: 86°F/30°C Feels Like: 86°F/30°C Current Humidity: 40 Wind: From the N 6 Mph/9 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1313[21:50:22] <Sharidan> I might wanna swap places with Izaya then :)
L1314[21:50:24] <Sandra> :P
L1315[21:50:25] <Antheus> :P
L1316[21:50:45] <Sandra> I'm surprised it gave me the australian one rather than newcastle upon tyne.
L1317[21:50:57] <Sandra> it gave me newcastle upon hunter.
L1318[21:50:59] <Izaya> Sandra, perfect, mobile network relays
L1319[21:51:08] <Sandra> Izaya, :P
L1320[21:52:47] <Antheus> Izaya, come back
L1321[21:55:48] <Antheus> Kodos, when are you going to have a working computer
L1322[21:55:49] <Antheus> ?
L1323[21:58:55] <Antheus> %weather Boyd
L1324[21:58:56] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Boyd, United States of America Current Temp: 39°F/4°C Feels Like: 39°F/4°C Current Humidity: 96 Wind: From the N 0 Mph/0 Km/h Conditions: Mist
L1325[21:59:05] <Izaya> http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/elf/
L1326[21:59:16] <Antheus> %weather Keller
L1327[21:59:17] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Keller, United States of America Current Temp: 36°F/2°C Feels Like: 32°F/0°C Current Humidity: 69 Wind: From the SSE 4 Mph/6 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1328[21:59:27] <Antheus> %weather Azle
L1329[21:59:28] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Azle, United States of America Current Temp: 40°F/5°C Feels Like: 37°F/3°C Current Humidity: 72 Wind: From the SE 5 Mph/8 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1330[22:00:35] <Sharidan> let's see it handle this one..
L1331[22:00:43] <Sharidan> %weather nakskov
L1332[22:00:44] <MichiBot> Sharidan: Current weather for Nakskov, Denmark Current Temp: 29°F/-2°C Feels Like: 19°F/-8°C Current Humidity: 68 Wind: From the SW 20 Mph/32 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1333[22:00:53] <Sharidan> %weather lolland
L1334[22:01:07] <Sharidan> meh, no answer to that one :P
L1335[22:01:53] <Antheus> %weather hell
L1336[22:01:59] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Hell, Norway Current Temp: 28°F/-2°C Feels Like: 17°F/-8°C Current Humidity: 100 Wind: From the WSW 14 Mph/22 Km/h Conditions: Snow Shower
L1337[22:02:03] <Sharidan> hot! much too hot! :)
L1338[22:02:10] <Antheus> %weather Heaven
L1339[22:02:12] <Sharidan> lol
L1340[22:02:13] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Heaven Heights, United States of America Current Temp: 21°F/-6°C Feels Like: 10°F/-12°C Current Humidity: 49 Wind: From the WNW 11 Mph/17 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1341[22:02:23] <Antheus> %weather Earth
L1342[22:02:24] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Earth, United States of America Current Temp: 39°F/4°C Feels Like: 32°F/0°C Current Humidity: 48 Wind: From the WSW 11 Mph/17 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1343[22:02:33] <Antheus> That confirms it
L1344[22:02:45] <Antheus> The United States of America governs earth
L1345[22:02:49] <Sharidan> lol
L1346[22:03:16] <Izaya> %weather hell australia
L1347[22:03:17] <MichiBot> Izaya: Current weather for Hell Hole Creek, Australia Current Temp: 84°F/29°C Feels Like: 83°F/28°C Current Humidity: 33 Wind: From the SSE 6 Mph/9 Km/h Conditions: Sunny
L1348[22:03:31] <Izaya> Unexpected
L1349[22:03:54] <Sharidan> hmm - who would ever have known, that we have hell in two places on this planet
L1350[22:04:14] <Antheus> %weather hell united states
L1351[22:04:18] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for hell united states Current Temp: 77°F/25°C Feels Like: 81°F/27°C Current Humidity: 79 Wind: From the ESE 4 Mph/6 Km/h Conditions: Clear
L1352[22:04:32] <Antheus> um
L1353[22:05:02] <Kodos> Antheus: When someone buys me a new GPU
L1354[22:05:22] <Izaya> Do you want a GT220?
L1355[22:05:37] <Kodos> Not even sure what that is
L1356[22:05:44] <Kodos> I mean, I'm assuming it's a GPU
L1357[22:05:45] <Antheus> A gpu
L1358[22:05:47] <Kodos> But beyond that
L1359[22:05:54] <Kodos> I know fuckall for computer parts
L1360[22:06:06] <Izaya> It's an nvidia card from like 5 years ago
L1361[22:06:20] <Antheus> Kodos, does your CPU have intigrated graphics?
L1362[22:07:18] <Antheus> %weather Antartica
L1363[22:07:19] <MichiBot> Antheus: Current weather for Antartica Current Temp: 79°F/26°C Feels Like: 85°F/29°C Current Humidity: 89 Wind: From the NNW 4 Mph/7 Km/h Conditions: Partly Cloudy
L1364[22:07:31] <Izaya> Nice day
L1365[22:07:33] <Antheus> Yah
L1366[22:07:51] <Antheus> Those polar bears must be swimming in the pool
L1367[22:08:12] <Izaya> Working on their tan
L1368[22:08:32] <Antheus> yah
L1369[22:08:35] <Sharidan> %weather antarctica
L1370[22:08:49] <Antheus> Izaya, we have almost 3 rows of cobble in an iron chest
L1371[22:08:52] <Antheus> just from the quarry
L1372[22:09:20] <Mimiru> %weather McMurdo, Antarctica
L1373[22:09:23] <MichiBot> Mimiru: Current weather for Mcmurdo, Canada Current Temp: 21°F/-6°C Feels Like: 21°F/-6°C Current Humidity: 99 Wind: From the SSE 4 Mph/7 Km/h Conditions: Freezing fog
L1374[22:09:42] <Antheus> oh
L1375[22:09:54] <Mimiru> I blame shitty weather API..
L1376[22:09:54] <Antheus> lol
L1377[22:10:05] <Antheus> %weather Mimiru
L1378[22:10:07] <Sharidan> lol
L1379[22:10:42] * Mimiru sets mode #oc +q $a:PotatoTrumpet
L1380[22:10:50] <Antheus> :(
L1381[22:11:29] <Antheus> Izaya, are you ever gonna come back on?
L1382[22:11:45] <Izaya> yeah
L1383[22:11:49] <Izaya> was busy for a bit
L1384[22:11:55] <Izaya> starting MC again now
L1385[22:12:01] <Antheus> ok
L1386[22:12:10] <Antheus> make sure to remove optifine or fastcrafdt
L1387[22:12:16] <Antheus> idk which was the cause of the issues
L1388[22:12:24] <Izaya> removed both
L1389[22:12:26] <Sharidan> most likely optifine
L1390[22:12:29] <Izaya> my machine should handle it without
L1391[22:12:36] <Antheus> I get ~55fps
L1392[22:12:37] <Kodos> Antheus: 800x600
L1393[22:12:39] <Mimiru> Funny I was gonna say most likely fastcraft.. :P
L1394[22:12:41] <Kodos> So no
L1395[22:12:56] <Antheus> oh I had vsync on
L1396[22:13:00] <Antheus> .,.,...
L1397[22:13:01] <Antheus> aj;kgtlwrejgt
L1398[22:13:06] <Sharidan> optifine was never written for the modded renderers and shaders and usually causes the most conflicts
L1399[22:13:26] <Antheus> HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.3.3-2-ARCH x86_64 ** Distro: ArchLinux ** CPU: 8 x AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 1.40GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7.8GiB, 43.4% free ** Disk: Total: 900.9GiB, 94.2% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Qualcomm Atheros Killer E220x Gigabit Ethernet Controller ** Uptime: 22h
L1400[22:13:26] <Antheus> 36m 11s **
L1401[22:13:48] <Izaya> Antheus, what DE?
L1402[22:13:54] <Antheus> XFCE4
L1403[22:19:58] <greaser|q> woohoo just got netboot working \:D/
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L1405[22:20:37] <Sharidan> congratz! :)
L1406[22:21:01] <Sharidan> downloading a boot app from a server?
L1407[22:21:41] <greaser|q> yeah, wrote a simple EEPROM to let me netboot shit
L1408[22:21:50] <Sharidan> nice :)
L1409[22:24:07] <greaser|q> saves me from having to rip out the one in the machine
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L1411[22:26:25] <_habnabit> http://i.imgur.com/4c4MG8W.png i gave processes names
L1412[22:28:30] <Sharidan> nice one :)
L1413[22:32:48] <greaser|q> also fun thing, if you're netbooting you can just use an edited init.lua which implements computer.getBootAddress() and looks for the first "filesystem" component it can find
L1414[22:33:57] <Sharidan> which would be the hdd or a floppy?
L1415[22:34:56] <sugoi> filesystem.setAutorunEnabled=function(...)return lazy_invoke("setAutorunEnabled",...)end
L1416[22:36:12] <sugoi> woah...sorry
L1417[22:36:20] <greaser|q> it's whatever the hell it wants to boot off
L1418[22:36:31] <sugoi> that was a test string....in my clipboard...sorry
L1419[22:36:47] <greaser|q> but you can tune it to boot off whatever the hell you want it to
L1420[22:36:56] <Sharidan> nice
L1421[22:37:03] <Sharidan> a world of options opens up
L1422[22:37:26] <Sharidan> is there a way to distinguish what type of hardware a given filesystem is located on?
L1423[22:38:12] <_habnabit> i really can't figure out why these servers can't talk to each other
L1424[22:39:05] <_habnabit> http://i.imgur.com/0LCBTBy.png anything obvious in the rack UI here?
L1425[22:39:24] <_habnabit> i can take more screencaps if necessary; the two servers each have a regular wired network card in them
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L1427[22:39:49] <SoraFirestorm> hi all
L1428[22:40:06] <Sharidan> o/ Sora
L1429[22:41:38] <Sharidan> uhm, when I run "components" in the prompt, it lists two "filesystem". there is one hdd installed. why does it show two different "filesystem" components?
L1430[22:42:09] <SoraFirestorm> Sharidan: what physical components do you have?
L1431[22:42:14] <SoraFirestorm> Some of them have their own fs
L1432[22:42:49] <greaser|q> by the way how do you unmount the tmpfs permanently
L1433[22:42:51] <Shuudoushi> Sharidan: / and /tmpfs
L1434[22:42:56] <SoraFirestorm> ah yes
L1435[22:43:04] <SoraFirestorm> tmpfs
L1436[22:43:04] <Sharidan> 1x eeprom, 1x linked card, 1x apu(t2), 1x memory (t1.5), 1x hdd(t1)
L1437[22:43:05] <SoraFirestorm> of course
L1438[22:43:06] <Shuudoushi> greaser|q: boot time script
L1439[22:43:14] <SoraFirestorm> Someone else got it
L1440[22:43:21] <SoraFirestorm> It's a tmpfs
L1441[22:43:22] <Shuudoushi> it's otherwise hardcoded unless you write your own filesystem
L1442[22:43:27] <Sharidan> oooh ok
L1443[22:43:43] <Kodos> http://imgur.com/gallery/jaVHlqk
L1444[22:44:02] <Sharidan> so the temp folder is a separate virtual component then
L1445[22:44:11] <SoraFirestorm> Kodos: lolol
L1446[22:44:14] <SoraFirestorm> Sharidan: yeah
L1447[22:44:18] <Shuudoushi> yes
L1448[22:44:23] <SoraFirestorm> It's a memory-only filesystem
L1449[22:44:29] <Shuudoushi> it's a "partition"
L1450[22:44:43] <Shuudoushi> like swap for linux
L1451[22:44:46] <SoraFirestorm> Shuudoushi: except not really
L1452[22:44:49] <Sharidan> rofl Kodos
L1453[22:44:49] <Shuudoushi> s/for/in
L1454[22:44:51] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> like swap in linux
L1455[22:45:04] <Sharidan> gotcha - thanks for the explanation :)
L1456[22:45:12] <SoraFirestorm> That's almost like saying that /proc and /dev are partitions
L1457[22:45:21] <Shuudoushi> SoraFirestorm: closest thing I can think of as a good way to describe it
L1458[22:45:42] <sugoi> this is strange...i think i'm seeing a upvalue issue
L1459[22:45:43] <SoraFirestorm> I think "virtual filesystem" works well :P
L1460[22:45:46] <Sharidan> is there a way then, to reverse lookup what kind of hardware a given filesystem address points to?
L1461[22:46:05] <Shuudoushi> yes
L1462[22:46:12] <Shuudoushi> the addresses
L1463[22:46:19] <SoraFirestorm> You can't really do that in software though
L1464[22:46:20] <Shuudoushi> component.list()
L1465[22:46:23] <SoraFirestorm> That's a manual check
L1466[22:46:27] <Shuudoushi> ^
L1467[22:46:45] <SoraFirestorm> There's nothing that goes "this fs is yer floppy"
L1468[22:46:50] <SoraFirestorm> "this one is yer tmpfs"
L1469[22:47:03] <SoraFirestorm> Best alternative is to label them
L1470[22:47:04] <Shuudoushi> I may build reverse lookup into SOS' 'component' script
L1471[22:47:28] <SoraFirestorm> Unless the fs components export more information than I'm aware of
L1472[22:47:40] <Shuudoushi> SoraFirestorm: not much more
L1473[22:47:54] <Shuudoushi> address, label, and one other, I think slot
L1474[22:48:00] <Sharidan> hokay .. I was looking for some means to distinguish between a floppy and a hdd, other than through labels
L1475[22:48:06] <sugoi> so, say i have a library loading via require, and in that lib i create table (the lib) which at the end of the file will return (typical) but in the body of the file i create a local function inside of which i call loadfile(...)(library_table,...)
L1476[22:48:27] <sugoi> this local function is never called, but during the loadfile of this library (due to require) i get require called again (loops back)
L1477[22:48:41] <sugoi> only when i added that upvalue of the library_table
L1478[22:49:05] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: I was about to ask for that in english, then the second line made it all make sense lol
L1479[22:49:18] <Shuudoushi> but yeah, that's fucking odd
L1480[22:49:43] <sugoi> something magical must happen when creating an upvalue
L1481[22:49:58] <Shuudoushi> btw, I gave up on getting to bed early and I'm instead just going to stay up for 24+ hours again
L1482[22:50:02] <Shuudoushi> seems simpler
L1483[22:50:11] <sugoi> perhaps the upvalue requires the object be fully created...i'm not sure
L1484[22:50:25] * Shuudoushi shrugs.
L1485[22:50:29] <sugoi> perhaps loadfile sees the return lib and wants to tail call the loadfile of the lib
L1486[22:50:46] <Shuudoushi> I haven't noticed such things myself, and SOS is based off of OOS
L1487[22:51:19] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: that very may well be it
L1488[22:52:14] <Shuudoushi> I know there is a fancy way of auto-merging one repo into another on github, but I don't know how that is done properly...
L1489[22:52:22] <sugoi> hmm, but if (as an example) i merely pass lib to assert, that's okay
L1490[22:52:24] <SoraFirestorm> automerging?
L1491[22:52:38] <Shuudoushi> like how Mimiru has SOS and OS setup
L1492[22:52:50] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: you are the "Sora" of that coroutine memory patch?
L1493[22:52:55] <SoraFirestorm> sure am
L1494[22:53:00] <SoraFirestorm> here to tell me it sucks?
L1495[22:53:01] <Shuudoushi> when she builds a new OS, it pulls the latest SOS at the same tim
L1496[22:53:08] <sugoi> well met, super excited to make great use of it
L1497[22:53:30] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: ha, i'm not so entitled
L1498[22:53:34] <SoraFirestorm> I have bad news for you
L1499[22:53:37] <sugoi> well, maybe more than i consider
L1500[22:53:42] <Shuudoushi> it's fauled a bit
L1501[22:53:43] <Shuudoushi> we know
L1502[22:53:48] <SoraFirestorm> gamax92 looked it at and said it sucked
L1503[22:53:52] <sugoi> i know it has its issues
L1504[22:53:58] <SoraFirestorm> It's inaccurate
L1505[22:54:01] <Shuudoushi> fauled?... yes... fauled...
L1506[22:54:01] <sugoi> yes, gamax and i have been talking about it
L1507[22:54:04] <SoraFirestorm> More than I was hoping
L1508[22:54:05] <sugoi> yes, but
L1509[22:54:09] <sugoi> but ...
L1510[22:54:14] <sugoi> it would be incredibly helpful for me
L1511[22:54:21] <SoraFirestorm> pffft hell yeah it would be
L1512[22:54:26] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1513[22:54:28] <SoraFirestorm> That's the motivation in writing it :P
L1514[22:54:31] <sugoi> so, i'm just here to say....if you think of improvements, i'd be one to thank you
L1515[22:54:40] <Shuudoushi> a some what working idea is better than no idea
L1516[22:54:53] <SoraFirestorm> Not when it reports -90 bytes of memory used
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L1518[22:54:58] <sugoi> :)
L1519[22:55:09] <Shuudoushi> SoraFirestorm: still better than nothing lol
L1520[22:55:16] <SoraFirestorm> I suppose
L1521[22:55:25] <Shuudoushi> at least the idea has been proposed
L1522[22:55:32] <SoraFirestorm> But I do need to find a smarter method than the one I'm using
L1523[22:56:10] <sugoi> my ever-growing excel spreadsheet of debug data to determine where my memory costs are...is unwieldy
L1524[22:56:24] <Shuudoushi> hmmm... fuck it, I'm just going to copy of gopers gml shit by hand, there's shit some shit that needs to be fixed to get it to work with SOS anyway
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L1526[22:57:18] <Sharidan> is there some kind of gpu paging support?
L1527[22:57:20] <Shuudoushi> oh, sugoi, how do you make it so libs don't have to be required? I think I missed an edit when I readded the bit32 lib...
L1528[22:57:40] <sugoi> libs don't have to be required?
L1529[22:57:54] <sugoi> you could just dofile if you don't want to require it
L1530[22:57:58] <sugoi> can you elaborate?
L1531[22:59:29] <Shuudoushi> as far as I can remember, in order to use the bit32 lib in the past, it wasn't required to add 'local bit32 = require("bit32")' to your code
L1532[22:59:53] <Shuudoushi> but I can't remember how that's done...
L1533[23:00:58] <Shuudoushi> hmm, an example: when using 'os.sleep()' you don't have to do 'local os = require("os")' as it's a native lib
L1534[23:01:10] <sugoi> os is in the global env
L1535[23:01:29] <Shuudoushi> wasn't bit32 as well though?
L1536[23:01:56] <sugoi> probably
L1537[23:01:58] <sugoi> :)
L1538[23:02:52] <sugoi> yes
L1539[23:02:54] <sugoi> it is
L1540[23:03:13] <sugoi> so if you your lib available without having to call require, just throw it on _G
L1541[23:03:13] <Shuudoushi> lol, so an edit to my init.lua huh
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L1543[23:03:41] <sugoi> you could create a boot script
L1544[23:04:23] <sugoi> boot/10_Shuudoushi.lua
L1545[23:04:28] <sugoi> and in there, add your own _G stuff
L1546[23:04:35] <Shuudoushi> init edit would make it look more 'stock'
L1547[23:04:46] <_habnabit> ok well the servers can talk to each other if i put wireless cards in each
L1548[23:04:49] <_habnabit> that... works, i guess
L1549[23:05:20] <Sharidan> better than no connection at all _habnabit :)
L1550[23:05:22] <Shuudoushi> wasn't there an issue awhile back about servers built in switches being janky?
L1551[23:05:29] <_habnabit> does wireless card power affect sending and receiving, or just sending? i'd like the server to pick up messages from faraway computers even if they don't have much power
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L1553[23:06:09] <Kodos> Only sending iirc
L1554[23:06:13] <_habnabit> okay
L1555[23:06:22] <Shuudoushi> _habnabit: mountains and shit reduce the distance that wireless signals can travel, use an access point instead
L1556[23:06:35] <_habnabit> aren't access points deprecated?
L1557[23:06:38] <Sharidan> does anyone know if there is some kind of paging support on the graphics cards?
L1558[23:06:42] <Kodos> Use Relays
L1559[23:06:45] <Kodos> With wireless cards
L1560[23:06:46] <Shuudoushi> just stick it way the fuck up in the sky or something
L1561[23:06:56] <Shuudoushi> that works to
L1562[23:07:03] <Shuudoushi> cheaper to make ontop of it iirc
L1563[23:07:11] <Kodos> http://imgur.com/gallery/LRJNc
L1564[23:07:18] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: you know a lot of lua...let me bounce this idea off of you if i may
L1565[23:07:19] <Kodos> APs don't have recipes anymore iirc
L1566[23:07:50] <Shuudoushi> sugoi: yeah, as it is, I already have 'z_login.lua' in /boot... and that looks jacky enough >.>
L1567[23:08:03] <sugoi> say you have a lib table, being loaded via require
L1568[23:08:05] <SoraFirestorm> sugoi: if you think I do, go ahead
L1569[23:08:09] <Shuudoushi> I still have to come up with a better way of handling that...
L1570[23:08:14] <SoraFirestorm> right
L1571[23:08:30] <sugoi> i think, if i call a method whose address is unknown at load file (e.g. a[method](...))
L1572[23:08:34] <Shuudoushi> s/jacky/janky
L1573[23:08:34] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> sugoi: yeah, as it is, I already have 'z_login.lua' in /boot... and that looks janky enough >.>
L1574[23:08:46] <Shuudoushi> eh... good enough...
L1575[23:09:04] <sugoi> and to that you pass your lib table...a SPECIAL upvalue is made i think, special as in...i don't know what extra magic is going on
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L1578[23:09:27] <sugoi> anyways, what i do know, if i try this, require gets called from within that require -- and i cannot boot
L1579[23:09:37] <sugoi> even without calling this code
L1580[23:09:43] <sugoi> simple creating the function for load
L1581[23:09:46] <sugoi> simply*
L1582[23:10:25] <sugoi> so in my case, i'm adding a local function to lib/filesystem.lua
L1583[23:10:27] <SoraFirestorm> are you declaring this function in your library?
L1584[23:10:53] <sugoi> in that local function (which mind you is not called) -- i use a loadfile to create a dynamic call
L1585[23:11:01] <SoraFirestorm> Maybe you can manipulate the package table somehow
L1586[23:11:04] <sugoi> and to that call, i pass my literal: filesystem
L1587[23:11:29] <sugoi> i can find a work around
L1588[23:11:43] <sugoi> but, i also want to be a bit more knowledge of the problem i'm working around
L1589[23:12:21] <sugoi> if i simply comment out the invoke line, where i pass the filesystem table identifier, all is well
L1590[23:12:42] <sugoi> even if i local fs=filesystem;invoke(fs), it loops to require again
L1591[23:12:45] <sugoi> on LOAD
L1592[23:12:49] <sugoi> (the code is never called)
L1593[23:12:50] <SoraFirestorm> hmmmm
L1594[23:13:06] <SoraFirestorm> alright
L1595[23:13:11] <sugoi> i can pass the filesystem identifier to other methods
L1596[23:13:15] <SoraFirestorm> I'll admit, curiosity is getting the better of me
L1597[23:13:17] <SoraFirestorm> sauce?
L1598[23:13:18] <sugoi> even assert
L1599[23:14:20] <sugoi> well, i'm right now trying to create the minimal repro
L1600[23:14:32] <sugoi> then i'll share, but the first minimal repro i made DIDN'T crash...so...
L1601[23:14:34] <sugoi> :/
L1602[23:14:42] * sugoi apologizes and investigates
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L1604[23:16:05] <sugoi> ! haha.....this might have something to do with weak tables!!
L1605[23:16:07] <sugoi> holy crap
L1606[23:16:10] <sugoi> this gets more complex
L1607[23:18:21] <Sharidan> hmm. is there a gpu memory segment somewhere that can be manipulated directly or are we stuck with gpu.set etc.?
L1608[23:19:10] <SoraFirestorm> stuck with the GPU libraries
L1609[23:19:25] <Sharidan> :(
L1610[23:19:49] <Sharidan> would love to have a segment dump/restore feature
L1611[23:20:09] <Shuudoushi> yeah, adding vram MIGHT be seen in .6
L1612[23:20:14] <Shuudoushi> 1.6*
L1613[23:20:34] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: i'm a flipping idiot
L1614[23:20:48] <sugoi> that crash of the stack trace had an assert that was throwing me off
L1615[23:20:50] <Sharidan> that would certainly speed up certain things
L1616[23:20:52] <Shuudoushi> Sharidan: one way people have been getting around that, is by drawing offscreen, then moving it on screen
L1617[23:21:00] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: the world is normal again
L1618[23:21:19] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: so in my invoke, i was passing ...
L1619[23:21:20] <Sharidan> gpu.set supports coords outside the resolution??
L1620[23:21:26] <SoraFirestorm> It does?
L1621[23:21:28] <sugoi> but in my signature, i didn't have ...
L1622[23:21:46] <Shuudoushi> Sharidan: as long as you get the screen size, yes
L1623[23:21:51] <sugoi> but the loadfile failure, in require, asserts with a bad message "already requiring"
L1624[23:21:53] <Shuudoushi> at least last I checked anyway
L1625[23:22:04] <Sharidan> Shuudoushi: nice! thanks for that valuable tip! :D
L1626[23:22:05] <SoraFirestorm> well you fixed it
L1627[23:22:09] <sugoi> i.e. an openos bug in misleading assert messages
L1628[23:22:10] * Shuudoushi pats sugoi gently on the head
L1629[23:22:11] <SoraFirestorm> :D
L1630[23:22:16] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: yes :)
L1631[23:22:27] <Shuudoushi> Sharidan: np
L1632[23:22:30] <sugoi> good news, lua doesn't magically upvalue in weird edge cases
L1633[23:22:40] <Shuudoushi> with any luck, we'll see vram in 1.6
L1634[23:22:51] <sugoi> Shuudoushi: 1.7 maybe
L1635[23:22:57] <Sharidan> I'm keeping my fingers crossed for vram :)
L1636[23:22:59] <sugoi> it's complicated
L1637[23:23:01] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1638[23:23:04] <Shuudoushi> true enough
L1639[23:23:13] <sugoi> i'm basically trying to create a similar loading framework
L1640[23:23:36] <sugoi> right now, openos 1.6 allocated ~217k
L1641[23:23:40] <sugoi> which is unnacceptable
L1642[23:23:49] <Shuudoushi> time to boot up MC and see if adding GML to SOS has exploded anything >.>
L1643[23:23:53] <sugoi> oh, minus ~.....15k maybe of that (debugger data)
L1644[23:23:58] <sugoi> so ~200k
L1645[23:24:06] <Shuudoushi> ouchies
L1646[23:24:07] <Sharidan> ouch - expensive os
L1647[23:24:14] <sugoi> yeah, i'm trying
L1648[23:24:27] <sugoi> and wasting time on made up upvalue issues
L1649[23:24:39] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1650[23:24:49] <Sharidan> time is never wasted, if you end up with an explanation sugoi :)
L1651[23:25:29] <Sharidan> expanding your knowledge pool is always worth more than the time spent figuring it out
L1652[23:25:33] <greaser|q> i'm at the 1536-byte mark for my OS
L1653[23:25:42] <greaser|q> i'll probably opt for more of an amigados approach
L1654[23:25:49] <Shuudoushi> https://github.com/Shuudoushi/SecureOS/tree/dev
L1655[23:25:51] <greaser|q> as in, everything is on some sort of named drive
L1656[23:26:00] <greaser|q> df0:BlowShitUp
L1657[23:26:17] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1658[23:26:40] <Shuudoushi> I have no idea just how much RAM SOS uses...
L1659[23:27:01] <Shuudoushi> but then again, its a 'feature' OS, not a stock OS
L1660[23:27:39] <Shuudoushi> no one really expects 'feature' OS' to run on one t1 ram lol
L1661[23:27:43] <greaser|q> apparently openos 1.5 allocates... well, less than 192KB
L1662[23:27:54] <greaser|q> i can use basically every tool except install and edit
L1663[23:28:05] <greaser|q> which is... still not acceptable
L1664[23:28:14] <Shuudoushi> you don't have edit...
L1665[23:28:34] <SoraFirestorm> I got around this problem by doubling all memories
L1666[23:28:36] <greaser|q> i think i'll have gpu and term in my init
L1667[23:28:40] <Shuudoushi> well... then again... I just took OpenOS' edit and modded it a bit >.>
L1668[23:28:51] <Shuudoushi> SoraFirestorm: XD
L1669[23:29:14] <SoraFirestorm> seriously
L1670[23:29:20] <SoraFirestorm> Everything in the config is 2x stock
L1671[23:29:36] <SoraFirestorm> I bumped up floppies to 1440k and harddrives to waaay bigger
L1672[23:29:46] <Shuudoushi> I still need to go through and make it so all SOS stock programs can leverage one .gss file...
L1673[23:30:18] * Shuudoushi runs a maxed out t3 server and a raid for testing SOS...
L1674[23:31:02] <Shuudoushi> the raid makes things so much easier to fix when I explode something real good like...
L1675[23:34:38] <Shuudoushi> just murdered Mimiru's server by breaking a phantom block >.>
L1676[23:35:31] <sugoi> greaser|q: edit on T1 ram is LESS important because...if you have editing to do, do it on a machine with more ram
L1677[23:35:43] <sugoi> i'm not saying NOT important, only less
L1678[23:36:07] <SoraFirestorm> What if it's your first machine and you can only build T1/T1.5 memories/
L1679[23:36:33] ⇦ Quits: Vexatos (~Vexatos@p200300556E6CB7415EF370FFFE092A97.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) (Quit: I guess I have to go now. Bye ✔)
L1680[23:36:34] <sugoi> well first of all, edit on T1.5 IS important
L1681[23:36:41] <sugoi> secondly, that's a good point
L1682[23:36:43] <Shuudoushi> then you shouldn't be running custom OSes lol
L1683[23:36:50] <SoraFirestorm> True
L1684[23:36:53] <sugoi> this isn't custom os tho, like you said
L1685[23:36:55] <sugoi> this is stock
L1686[23:37:00] <sugoi> well, "stock"
L1687[23:37:13] <sugoi> :) [one still crafts the openos install disc]
L1688[23:37:20] <SoraFirestorm> Is it possible to effectively and efficiently bootstrap from OpenOS from within the game?
L1689[23:37:32] <SoraFirestorm> Use OpenOS to write new OS, I mean
L1690[23:37:44] <greaser|q> ...that's kinda what i'm doing, although in creative mode
L1691[23:37:48] <sugoi> sure, yeah
L1692[23:37:55] <SoraFirestorm> (As fun as it could be to bootstrap an OS /without/ OpenOS, feel like that's impossible)
L1693[23:38:22] <sugoi> heh
L1694[23:38:35] <sugoi> we could make a block that writes 1/0s via redstone to a floop
L1695[23:38:39] <sugoi> floppy*
L1696[23:38:44] <sugoi> and bootstrap sans os
L1697[23:38:51] <SoraFirestorm> write raw Lua bytecode?
L1698[23:38:56] <sugoi> yeah
L1699[23:39:02] <SoraFirestorm> I'm not smart enough for that
L1700[23:39:26] <Shuudoushi> I don't have time for that...
L1701[23:39:27] <sugoi> well, no one's got time for that
L1702[23:39:29] <sugoi> haha
L1703[23:39:31] <sugoi> +1
L1704[23:39:32] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1705[23:40:06] <Shuudoushi> be there for weeks flipping a lever or two to openos
L1706[23:40:14] <Shuudoushi> no thanks lol
L1707[23:40:29] <Shuudoushi> s/to/to get
L1708[23:40:29] <MichiBot> <Shuudoushi> be there for weeks flipping a lever or two to get openos
L1709[23:42:50] <SoraFirestorm> I still think it would be fun to simulate the early time-shared minis in OpenComputers
L1710[23:42:56] <greaser|q> hmm, quick q, how do you switch between managed and unmanaged mode
L1711[23:43:12] <SoraFirestorm> Where a couple people pitch in to build the machine then share it
L1712[23:43:19] <SoraFirestorm> Need a decent multitasking OS for that though
L1713[23:43:24] <SoraFirestorm> greaser|q: Shift-click?
L1714[23:43:31] <greaser|q> ooh
L1715[23:43:57] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: as a package (not in openos) i'm working on "psh", a remote shell
L1716[23:44:18] <sugoi> the upgrades i've done to openos (specically, popen and standard io) will make psh actually work well
L1717[23:44:30] <sugoi> anyways, it allow concurrent multiple remote shells
L1718[23:44:34] <SoraFirestorm> But OpenOS is fundamentally single user
L1719[23:44:40] <sugoi> yes, user
L1720[23:44:42] <sugoi> but shells
L1721[23:45:08] <SoraFirestorm> I suppose for this to work properly you'd need some sort of dumb terminal
L1722[23:45:10] <sugoi> i've also fixed the whole "shell environment" limitation, so now each shell instance (in openos 1.6) has its own vars
L1723[23:45:27] <greaser|q> SoraFirestorm: seems to be ctrl-click, but cheers
L1724[23:45:59] <sugoi> SoraFirestorm: well, i'll talk it up more when it's actually working and such :)
L1725[23:46:00] <SoraFirestorm> Was going to suggest multiple things
L1726[23:46:04] <Shuudoushi> greaser|q: it's all the same after awhile >.>
L1727[23:46:10] <SoraFirestorm> sugoi: fair enough :P
L1728[23:47:10] <greaser|q> also does OpenOS actually handle unmanaged disks
L1729[23:47:32] <SoraFirestorm> no?
L1730[23:48:31] <greaser|q> i could totally shove FAT12 on one of those
L1731[23:49:24] <SoraFirestorm> FAT is icky
L1732[23:49:35] <SoraFirestorm> Use something smart like ext2
L1733[23:50:06] <greaser|q> FAT is simple
L1734[23:50:43] <SoraFirestorm> Maybe I have biases
L1735[23:50:58] <greaser|q> SoraFirestorm confirmed for Remy Card
L1736[23:51:04] <SoraFirestorm> Microsoft wrote FAT + Microsoft is bad -> FAT is bad
L1737[23:52:06] <Sharidan> FAT was sufficient for what it was designed for back then. M$ didnt realize how fast things would evolve when they designed FAT. True it stinks by modern standards
L1738[23:52:09] *** Cranium is now known as Cranium[Away]
L1739[23:52:55] <Daiyousei> if you think FAT is bad
L1740[23:52:57] <Sharidan> in reality FAT was an altered cp/m file system
L1741[23:53:00] <Daiyousei> take a look at NTFS
L1742[23:53:11] <SoraFirestorm> NTFS is bad too
L1743[23:53:12] <Sharidan> not saying NTFS is better :)
L1744[23:53:18] <Daiyousei> heh
L1745[23:53:29] <SoraFirestorm> case-insensitive fses are bad period
L1746[23:53:37] <Daiyousei> yep
L1747[23:53:57] <Daiyousei> afaik there's a way to disable case-insensitivity if i remember right
L1748[23:54:07] <Daiyousei> imagine the breakage that would happen if i disabled taht
L1749[23:54:18] <Sharidan> yup, but that's also guaranteeing that windoze will stop running
L1750[23:54:21] <SoraFirestorm> every. fucking. thing.
L1751[23:54:25] <Daiyousei> mhm
L1752[23:54:25] <Daiyousei> xDd
L1753[23:54:29] <Daiyousei> s/d//
L1754[23:54:29] <MichiBot> <Daiyousei> xD
L1755[23:55:42] <sugoi> oc sandbox removes bytecode support, right?
L1756[23:55:47] <Shuudoushi> fuck FAT and NTFS, ext is where its at!
L1757[23:55:54] <SoraFirestorm> sugoi: without explicit enabling, yes
L1758[23:56:00] <SoraFirestorm> <3 extfs
L1759[23:56:02] <sugoi> Shuudoushi: flame wars aside, i actually love btrfs
L1760[23:56:14] <Shuudoushi> lol
L1761[23:56:29] <Shuudoushi> I just had to jump on the band wagon rq XD
L1762[23:56:47] <sugoi> if i had bytecode support, i could add vram support to openos (1.7...)
L1763[23:57:11] <Shuudoushi> then enable it, but hide the shit out of it
L1764[23:57:37] <Sharidan> is there an api call somewhere to format numbers with thousands dividers etc.?
L1765[23:57:48] <sugoi> well, when we start planning for 1.7, i'll ask sang.ar if there is something we can do
L1766[23:58:08] <sugoi> bc i agree, vram would be cool
L1767[23:58:14] <Shuudoushi> I think that still pings him, but it sounds like a plan
L1768[23:58:20] <sugoi> what really?!
L1769[23:58:32] <Shuudoushi> if I recall
L1770[23:58:47] <sugoi> that'd be unfortunate
L1771[23:58:51] <sugoi> i've been using that for some time
L1772[23:59:00] <sugoi> ragnas it is then
L1773[23:59:15] <Sharidan> what if that's in his pager aswell? ;)
L1774[23:59:25] <sugoi> FINE
L1775[23:59:25] <Shuudoushi> could be wrong, been awhile since I got yelled at for pinged him without meaning to lol
L1776[23:59:29] <Sharidan> lol
L1777[23:59:35] <sugoi> i'll just uppercase proper nouns
L1778[23:59:37] <Sharidan> sowwy sugoi :P
L1779[23:59:40] <sugoi> He, and Him
L1780[23:59:42] <sugoi> The One
L1781[23:59:49] <greaser|q> The Brown
L1782[23:59:55] <Shuudoushi> XD
L1783[23:59:58] <Shuudoushi> wtf lol
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