OCLogs: 2016-01-07.log

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L4[00:05:24] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos

L5[00:05:57] <Kodos> So, webchat.esper.net is now tied to my router's redirect URL, and I have to append a channel on the end of the URL now...

L6[00:07:23] <dangranos> uh?

L7[00:09:56] <Kodos> Our internet went down last night while I was on here, so I tried refreshing the page, and now it's tying the URL to my router's page that it redirects to when the net's down

L8[00:10:09] <Kodos> But since the net isn't down when it's trying, the page just fails to load entirely

L9[00:12:08] <sugoi> hello

L10[00:12:32] <sugoi> i'm trying to measure memory using computer.freeMemory()

L11[00:12:57] <sugoi> i have a loop, runs 200 times, os.sleep(0) each time, taking min and max of free mem

L12[00:13:06] <sugoi> the results range drastically, and are not consistent

L13[00:13:18] <sugoi> 268147, 343215 one time

L14[00:13:26] <sugoi> 253318, 343236 the next

L15[00:13:26] <Kodos> Old bug I thought

L16[00:13:41] <sugoi> how old?

L17[00:15:19] <sugoi> well i'm running latest actuallyOpenComputers-MC1.7.10-1.5.21.41-universal.jar

L18[00:15:31] <Kodos> I never said it was fixed =P

L19[00:15:33] <sugoi> latest for 1.7.10

L20[00:15:35] <sugoi> haha ok

L21[00:15:45] <Kodos> but iirc it's a known thing

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L23[00:15:50] <Kodos> Not sure if a fix was ever discussed

L24[00:16:03] <sugoi> Kodos: so....if people are very concerned about the mem cost of my openos upgrades ...

L25[00:16:10] <sugoi> and i'd like to really work on fine tuning the memory costs

L26[00:16:18] <sugoi> ... what should i do? :)

L27[00:16:20] <sugoi> ideas, advice?

L28[00:16:41] <Izaya> Should I go with Project:Red or something elser?

L29[00:16:41] <Kodos> Well, let's see your code

L30[00:16:42] <Izaya> else*

L31[00:16:49] <Kodos> Izaya: what do you need from said mod

L32[00:16:56] <sugoi> Kodos: it's a lot of changes

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L34[00:16:59] <Izaya> the usual wires and logic gates

L35[00:17:17] <sugoi> Kodos: all of sh, some new process metadata

L36[00:17:19] <Kodos> Do you like bullshit madeup licenses?

L37[00:17:22] <sugoi> um, a couple libs

L38[00:17:34] <sugoi> what?

L39[00:17:36] <Kodos> sugoi: you might have borked something

L40[00:17:41] <Izaya> Ideally MIT, BSD or GPL

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L42[00:17:50] <Kodos> Well, don't use P:R then

L43[00:17:57] <Kodos> Get RedLogic. pretty sure it's one of those

L44[00:17:58] <sugoi> Kodos: this freeMemory test is on an unmodified openos install from that version

L45[00:18:06] <Kodos> sugoi: I'm aware. One sec

L46[00:18:42] <sugoi> oh. i was responding to 'borked something up' i was trying to clarify that my freeMemory() test was to be my control value

L47[00:19:09] <Kodos> https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/893 There's one example

L48[00:19:17] <sugoi> that right now, i have not tested my memory costs, but rather am only trying to measure openos without my work

L49[00:19:22] <sugoi> ok, i'll read that

L50[00:19:41] <Kodos> Though I'm pretty sure you're already doing something similar in your control

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L52[00:22:29] <sugoi> Kodos: well...i guess my control isn't so bad compared to what sangr suggeste4d

L53[00:22:37] <sugoi> yes my control test is as good (better)

L54[00:22:45] <sugoi> but i'm checking min and max, sangr only tells him to use max

L55[00:22:47] <dangranos> hmm

L56[00:22:55] <sugoi> my values are consistent - just separated

L57[00:23:03] <dangranos> i wonder if there will be any good thing for issue #2000 or #2222

L58[00:23:05] <Izaya> http://pb.i0i0.me/p/kesXfhk3

L59[00:23:16] <sugoi> min is consistently near 258KiBs

L60[00:23:31] <sugoi> max is near 344KiB

L61[00:24:07] <sugoi> Kodos: i would think...one should be more concerned about min, and not max

L62[00:24:10] <sugoi> what's your opinion?

L63[00:24:40] <Kodos> I think both are equally important, since you'd need to know both to get an accurate representation of memory used

L64[00:27:15] <dangranos> lol

L65[00:27:30] <dangranos> "top 10 methods to detect a noob in minecraft"

L66[00:28:00] <dangranos> that's youtube's "games. popular on YouTubeRussia"

L67[00:35:12] <Kodos> Doo-bee doo-bee doo-bah, doo-bee doo-bee doo-bah

L68[00:38:32] <dangranos> Uh?

L69[00:40:50] <dangranos> Well, my thoughts when i saw that video's title: "1st must be 'watches youtube top10 something something' videos"

L70[00:41:01] <dangranos> s/' / /

L71[00:41:06] <dangranos> s/s"/'"/

L72[00:41:06] <MichiBot> <dangranos> Well, my thoughts when i saw that video's title: "1st must be 'watches youtube top10 something something' video'"

L73[00:42:14] <Kodos> My wife is a womanchild, and is watching Phineas and Ferb. The lyrics to Perry the Platypus' theme is Doo-bee doo-bee doo-bah, doo-bee doo-bee doo-bah

L74[00:56:59] <dangranos> >P&F

L75[00:57:14] <dangranos> Well, it is a good.. uh.. cartoon?

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L77[00:57:35] * dangranos should probably look up how all those different movies/etc are named in english

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L79[01:00:35] <Alissa> this lexer example for the "official" LLVM tutorial is funky.

L80[01:00:43] <Alissa> i'm not a fan of it. :I

L81[01:01:10] <Alissa> personally I'm going to write my lexer in C rather than C++ and do it different than how they did.

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L83[02:06:54] <vifino> Gooood morning everyone.

L84[02:08:04] <Alissa> Gooooooooooooooooooooood morning.

L85[02:08:39] <vifino> Alissa: Too many o's, 6, sit down.

L86[02:08:52] <Alissa> Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood night.

L87[02:09:04] <vifino> Alissa: Too many o's, 7, sit down.

L88[02:09:12] <Alissa> nooooooooooooooooooooo

L89[02:09:23] <vifino> Better.

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L92[02:16:22] <Kodos> vifino: what are you quoting? I know that from somewhere

L93[02:16:47] <Alissa> Kodos: Good morning Vietnam?

L94[02:17:09] <vifino> Huh?

L95[02:17:18] <vifino> That's... me greeting.

L96[02:17:39] <Alissa> vifino: welcome to the human mind: always attempting to associate one thing with another

L97[02:18:03] <vifino> Too bad I'm not human.

L98[02:18:23] <Alissa> i meant Kodos's mind.

L99[02:18:45] <Alissa> the one who made the Good Morning Vietnam => vifino connection... :I

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L101[02:19:10] <vifino> I didn't say Vietnam ¬_¬

L102[02:19:34] <Alissa> I didn't say you did but if that's the first thing I thought of chances are that's what Kodos thought of

L103[02:20:44] <Temia> Moooooooooooo. 'o'

L104[02:21:11] <vifino> Good moooo to you, Temiamoo.

L105[02:21:13] * vifino pets

L106[02:21:24] * Temia leans into pets. =w= mu.

L107[02:22:45] <Alissa> https://github.com/ChickenNuggers/Sol/blob/master/lexer.moon i made a thing

L108[02:22:58] <Alissa> and good moooorning to you Temia.

L109[02:23:00] <Alissa> ^_^

L110[02:23:23] <Alissa> someone tell Vexatoast that my lexer is superior to his

L111[02:23:32] <Alissa> even though mine doesn't even strings yet

L112[02:24:00] <vifino> Dang me. I just wondered why cloudflare flattened my cname records, until I realized that it was routed over cloudflare. =.=

L113[02:24:42] <sugoi> Sangar: you on?

L114[02:24:44] <vifino> pb.i0i0.me would give you a nice cname chain: pb.i0i0.me -> pastebin.app.i0i0.me -> phosphor.i0i0.me -> ip

L115[02:24:52] <Alissa> sugoi: according to hi s/away no

L116[02:25:07] <sugoi> Alissa: i was hoping to ping him :)

L117[02:25:08] <Alissa> vifino: yeah i noticed that phosphor.* doesn't work anymore

L118[02:25:30] <vifino> w0t

L119[02:25:41] <vifino> Erm.

L120[02:25:47] <vifino> phosphor.i0i0.me works fine.

L121[02:26:16] <vifino> blog.phosphor.i0i0.me doesn't work because it's blog.i0i0.me now.

L122[02:26:28] <Alissa> hm

L123[02:26:31] <vifino> Nobody reads my blog anyways, so what exactly are you refering to?

L124[02:27:01] <Alissa> it takes over 5 seconds to try curling phosphor.i0i0.me

L125[02:27:24] <vifino> it's just as fast for me.

L126[02:28:33] <Alissa> weird

L127[02:28:42] <Alissa> it's dead from my end

L128[02:29:29] <vifino> Then yer network is shot.

L129[02:30:25] <Alissa> yeah my 850mb download speed is totally a shot network

L130[02:30:48] <vifino> And it's not like cloudflare would interupt, phosphor is not even routed over cloudflare.

L131[02:31:24] <vifino> Alissa: It might be a stupid dns setup.

L132[02:32:20] <Alissa> idfk

L133[02:32:26] <Alissa> but it happens on home network and on server

L134[02:32:31] <Alissa> and it happened when i tried to test at school?

L135[02:33:11] <vifino> It's as instant as it always was for me .-.

L136[02:33:28] <vifino> brb, ssd detached

L137[02:33:33] <vifino> /hooray/

L138[02:33:47] <Alissa> :D

L139[02:35:04] <Inari> wee sky cars are finally here

L140[02:35:09] <Inari> http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/5747cccda1d69789119b92a00e83a76/203221891/ehang184Hero.jpg

L141[02:35:40] <vifino> And I'm back. Y'all totally missed me.

L142[02:35:58] <Alissa> ~totally~

L143[02:36:06] <Alissa> cause i totes wasn't grabbing some soder cola

L144[02:36:53] <vifino> .-.

L145[02:37:16] <Alissa> i was thinking about it but then i thought nah, too lazy.

L146[02:37:20] <Alissa> vifino: go grab me some soda

L147[02:37:47] * Inari hands Alissa some https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18783800/ShareX/2015/12/2015-12-30_23-05-40_l9PKHT.png

L148[02:38:02] <vifino> Alissa: I'm not your servant.

L149[02:38:18] <Alissa> no but you're a kind friend who would help me get some soda

L150[02:38:23] <vifino> ¬_¬

L151[02:38:24] <Alissa> i don't even think we have soda

L152[02:39:30] <vifino> 2bad5u

L153[02:39:35] <vifino> I need soda.

L154[02:39:43] <vifino> well, coke, to be specific

L155[02:40:44] * Inari hands vifino some http://drugrehabtreatmenthelp.com/pix/cocaine.jpg

L156[02:40:51] <Inari> or do you prefer it in mufin form?

L157[02:41:37] <vifino> Inari: Watch out before I make you take it all and throw you in a trash can afterwards.

L158[02:41:44] <Inari> lol

L159[02:42:08] <Inari> well, that escalated quickly :P

L160[02:42:51] <vifino> SHOTS FIRED, SHOTS FIRED

L161[02:43:24] <Alissa> yay soda

L162[02:51:24] <Kodos> I need some coke, too. vifino, split a 12 pack?

L163[02:52:11] <vifino> Haha, sure.

L164[02:52:33] <Alissa> oh wow i see how it is

L165[02:52:35] <Alissa> </3

L166[02:57:00] <Alissa> kay, good night

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L170[03:16:45] <Inari> Alissa: * <ß

L171[03:23:15] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/Nm7Y2G4.png guys what do you think, did I miss anything that should be there?

L172[03:24:21] <Kodos> ELI5?

L173[03:25:51] <Izaya> I wanted something more powerful than a T20 but not as powerful as a general-purpose computer like OC

L174[03:26:32] *** AntheusSchool is now known as Antheus

L175[03:26:53] <justastranger> Izaya: It seems that there's no way to read from memory :p

L176[03:27:18] <justastranger> or is that peek?

L177[03:27:21] <Izaya> peek

L178[03:27:24] <justastranger> ahh

L179[03:27:30] <justastranger> nvm then

L180[03:27:46] <Antheus> I have an idea

L181[03:27:58] <Antheus> Addon Mod for OC: OCTools

L182[03:28:39] <Antheus> Generic Tool you make, put some code on an EEPROM when you assemble it

L183[03:28:52] <Antheus> Or something like that

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L185[03:29:42] <Antheus> Like, you could make it with a redstone card, and when you right click on some redstone/wire/??? it will output the strength you programed it to

L186[03:33:22] <Kodos> Or a short range, single button item that broadcasts a preprogrammed wireless network message when you rightclick with it in hand

L187[03:34:05] <Antheus> you could also set it to do that .-.

L188[03:36:06] <Antheus> 1h15m of drivers ed done :)

L189[03:36:11] <Antheus> s/1/2

L190[03:36:11] <MichiBot> <Antheus> 2h15m of drivers ed done :)

L191[03:47:00] <Kodos> I had an idea for a tablet program

L192[03:47:45] <Kodos> Wireless redstone controller, the screen would have a 10 digit keypad, with 2 additional buttons for Clear and Set, and a Favorite Frequencies list on the right

L193[03:48:35] <Kodos> Obviously it would be without a keyboard, or can you turn the tablet screen into touchmode

L194[03:49:14] <Antheus> Sounds like a good idea

L195[03:49:18] <Antheus> Get the underlying code

L196[03:49:23] <Antheus> put a fancy GUI on it

L197[03:49:25] <Antheus> wahlah

L198[03:49:33] <Kodos> Voila*

L199[03:49:41] <Kodos> %g Voila

L200[03:49:41] <MichiBot> Kodos: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/voil%C3%A0 - voil�� - Wiktionary: "In face-to-face conversations where both participants can see the subject of the

L201[03:49:51] <Antheus> dat unicode

L202[03:50:28] <Kodos> 4 AM and I'm making chicken fajitas, what the hell

L203[03:50:42] <Kodos> And I just reminded myself of a hilarious story and nearly inhaled my tea

L204[03:51:12] <Antheus> Kodos: 4 AM as in 3:51 AM or 4 AM as in 4:51 AM

L205[03:51:35] <Kodos> 3

L206[03:51:43] <Antheus> And 4 am is always the perfect time to make chicken fajitas

L207[03:52:07] <Kodos> Does anyone remember the Family Guy episode where Peter orders Chicken Fajitas, and he says (And I'm gonna try to use phonetics here) Fuh-Jyt-uhs?

L208[03:54:05] <Antheus> I think i'm going to go get some juice

L209[03:59:12] <Kodos> Well I thought it was funny >.>

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L211[03:59:35] <Kodos> Anyway, the story was that I was discussing that episode with my brother once in a mexican restaurant, and then he accidentally said fajitas in that way when he ordered

L212[03:59:43] <Kodos> My mom spit her margarita all over the table laughing lol

L213[04:01:32] <Antheus> lol

L214[04:01:43] <Antheus> Any time I go to my local mexican resturaunt

L215[04:01:50] <Antheus> I always butcher the names of the food

L216[04:02:28] <Kodos> My brother knows spanish, so I always ask him how to pronounce things before we order

L217[04:02:39] <Kodos> Though I honestly get the Steak Ranchero any time we go now a days

L218[04:02:47] <Kodos> s/w a d/wad

L219[04:02:47] <MichiBot> <Kodos> Though I honestly get the Steak Ranchero any time we go nowadays

L220[04:05:26] <Inari> Steak Ranchers - the new exciting game, soon on your 3DS!

L221[04:05:53] <Antheus> I always get something

L222[04:05:55] <Antheus> that has

L223[04:06:08] <Antheus> steak, some spicy sauce or something, and bell peppers

L224[04:06:12] <Antheus> very good

L225[04:06:16] <Kodos> That's what Steak Ranchero is

L226[04:06:22] <Antheus> oh

L227[04:06:25] <Antheus> .-.

L228[04:06:36] <Inari> http://kazuya-akimoto.com/2009/2009images/IMG_8344_The_Green_Bell_Pepper_running_away_form_something.jpg

L229[04:06:36] <Kodos> A thin cut of beef steak, spicy verde sauce, and grilled peppers and onions

L230[04:06:56] <Kodos> I usually get rice with it, too, and throw it all in a tortilla

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L232[04:07:00] <Inari> fuwafuwa~

L233[04:07:09] <Antheus> I always wondered why it comes with a tortilla

L234[04:07:16] <Antheus> Never use em

L235[04:07:23] <Antheus> Just mix it with the rice and beans

L236[04:07:36] <Antheus> and the guac with the one red chip ontop of the fancy lettuce

L237[04:09:06] <Kodos> oh wtf

L238[04:09:17] <Kodos> Wife's playing ESO, I just caught a bit of audio from the story at a part I'm not at yet

L239[04:09:47] <Inari> haha

L240[04:09:52] <Antheus> what's ESO?

L241[04:09:58] <Inari> elder scrolls online

L242[04:10:01] <Antheus> oh

L243[04:10:44] <Temia> Oh gosh the minotaur doll I made is still in Decocraft.

L244[04:10:53] <Temia> I can't believe it.

L245[04:11:18] <Inari> lol

L246[04:13:08] <Izaya> oh no

L247[04:13:10] <Izaya> save me

L248[04:13:19] <Izaya> family is watching conspiracy theories again

L249[04:14:16] * Inari is still trying to find an introductory, good, english, and non-epilepsy-inducing bullet hell game D:

L250[04:14:39] <Antheus> Inari, HL2?

L251[04:14:42] <Inari> ~.~

L252[04:14:46] <Inari> Izaya: steins gate?

L253[04:15:06] <Izaya> Inari, Ace Ventura

L254[04:15:10] <Inari> lol

L255[04:15:13] <Inari> thats a great movie

L256[04:15:14] <Inari> D:

L257[04:16:02] <Izaya> apparently it's a series

L258[04:16:22] <Inari> a series of movies i suppose

L259[04:18:27] <Kodos> So

L260[04:18:31] <Kodos> Fajitas are almost done

L261[04:18:37] <Kodos> Sriracha sauce vs Taco Bell Fire sauce

L262[04:18:38] <Kodos> Discuss

L263[04:18:52] <Inari> dont know either, but fire sauce sounds spicy

L264[04:18:54] <Inari> so sriracha

L265[04:18:55] <Inari> :P

L266[04:19:06] <Kodos> They're both about as hot

L267[04:19:12] <Kodos> Sriracha has a bit more heat

L268[04:19:13] <Inari> then neither

L269[04:19:17] <Kodos> Why?

L270[04:19:22] <Inari> cause id ont like hot?

L271[04:19:47] <Kodos> I probably should've specified, this is a question about which style of sauce would be more appropriate for a fajita. I've only ever had Sriracha on my subway sandwiches, and Pho

L272[04:19:59] <Kodos> And I've only ever eaten fire sauce while at taco bell

L273[04:19:59] <Inari> i've never had either sauce, nor ever had fajitas

L274[04:20:01] <Inari> so dunno

L275[04:20:01] <Inari> :D

L276[04:20:01] <Kodos> And on fried chicken

L277[04:20:28] <Antheus> Taco bell's fire sauce is not that hot

L278[04:20:32] <Inari> try some sauerkraut with it

L279[04:20:35] <Antheus> more of a mild

L280[04:20:47] <Temia> ...oh jeez.

L281[04:20:56] <Temia> http://www.planetminecraft.com/skin/minotaur-girl-3/ should I file this under "unintentional fanart"?

L282[04:21:08] <Inari> lol

L283[04:21:12] <Inari> #AcidentallyTemia

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L285[04:21:16] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L286[04:21:20] <vifino> Haha.

L287[04:21:34] * Antheus slaps Vexatos with a jar of sauerkraut

L288[04:21:35] * EnderBot2 chuckles

L289[04:21:55] <vifino> Temia: You have people adoring you. :P

L290[04:22:48] <Inari> inb4 temia cosplay at minecon

L291[04:22:58] <vifino> Totally.

L292[04:23:11] <Vexatos> Antheus, Sauerkraut isn't even that good

L293[04:23:20] <vifino> Vexatos: You take that back.

L294[04:23:23] <Vexatos> It's just kind of the best thing you can eat during winter due to how healthy it is

L295[04:23:39] <Inari> sauerkraut is pretty goo dif you make it right

L296[04:23:46] <Vexatos> pretty goo indeed

L297[04:23:46] <Antheus> Vexatos, it's good on Rubens

L298[04:23:49] <Inari> lol

L299[04:23:50] <Vexatos> if you cook it long enough

L300[04:23:53] <Vexatos> it becomes so goo

L301[04:23:55] * Inari throws goo at Vexatos

L302[04:23:59] <Vexatos> the more goo, the better

L303[04:24:04] <Antheus> GOOOOOOO

L304[04:24:12] <vifino> goooo...

L305[04:24:13] <vifino> fball.

L306[04:24:19] <Inari> lewd goo

L307[04:24:20] <Vexatos> reminds me of cake.vifino.cc

L308[04:24:27] <vifino> .-.

L309[04:24:41] <Vexatos> Sangar, mountables fix when

L310[04:24:42] <vifino> Vexatos: http://noot.i0i0.me/

L311[04:24:47] <Vexatos> NOOT

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L313[04:24:49] <Vexatos> NOOT

L314[04:25:13] <Vexatos> Elizabeth, please make enderbot post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4VvRWTD3Ok when someone says "NOOT"

L315[04:25:13] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Noot Noot Compilation - Complete | length: 4m 22s | Likes: 8380 Dislikes: 123 Views: 697618 | by Brooke Pendleton

L316[04:25:17] <Vexatos> similar to "spam"

L317[04:25:17] <EnderBot2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE

L318[04:25:50] <vifino> Vexatos: no, post http://noot.i0i0.me/ instead

L319[04:26:59] <Kodos> Didn't the fix get committed already?

L320[04:27:02] <Kodos> Or was there a new bug

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L322[04:27:49] <Inari> http://lab.vis.ne.jp/tsukihime/data2/spell_02.html

L323[04:28:12] <Kodos> alot

L324[04:28:12] <MichiBot> ALOT: http://tinyurl.com/y42zurt

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L326[04:30:20] <Vexatos> Kodos, I made this http://git.io/vuVCJ and it properly installs in a rack, it properly renders, the constructor is getting called, the node is getting created

L327[04:30:28] <Vexatos> but I can't access this component from a connected server

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L329[04:30:42] <Kodos> How many lights

L330[04:30:49] <Kodos> I need a picture of this thing

L331[04:31:00] <Inari> Five according to the enum

L332[04:31:12] <Vexatos> 5

L333[04:31:25] <Vexatos> http://gfycat.com/NippyWastefulGarpike

L334[04:31:26] <Vexatos> 3rd row

L335[04:31:33] <Vexatos> also the item I'm holding

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L337[04:31:50] <Inari> Vexatos: why alwys computronics :<

L338[04:31:58] <Inari> can someone merge computronics into OC pls

L339[04:31:59] <Vexatos> Inari, what?

L340[04:32:04] <Vexatos> why not?

L341[04:32:11] <Inari> cause sucyk modpacks dont have it

L342[04:32:11] <Inari> :P

L343[04:32:19] <Vexatos> Well not my fault

L344[04:32:34] <Inari> sigh, i shoudl actaully make a mc serverlist...

L345[04:32:48] <Inari> also, nice minecart

L346[04:32:48] <Vexatos> Computronics is good because I use pretty much every feature Sangar's API has to offer

L347[04:33:00] <Vexatos> so I'm probably the first to find bugs etc.

L348[04:33:04] <Vexatos> and oversights

L349[04:33:14] <Inari> bugs are found by unit tests

L350[04:33:16] <Inari> ;3

L351[04:33:35] <Vexatos> bugs are found by creating external rack mountables and them not working at all

L352[04:33:53] <Inari> so, figured why they dont yet?

L353[04:34:07] <vifino> because effort

L354[04:34:08] <Inari> shouldnt be too hard in the debugger

L355[04:34:32] <Inari> i gotta look into unit tests + MC more

L356[04:34:36] <Vexatos> "not too hard"

L357[04:34:41] <Inari> btm is kind of an embarrassment

L358[04:34:43] <Vexatos> Inari, you can forget about unit tests completely

L359[04:34:49] <Vexatos> pretty much

L360[04:34:59] <Inari> whys that :P

L361[04:35:05] <Vexatos> they are positively useless in all things that aren't completely MC independent

L362[04:35:10] <Inari> nah

L363[04:35:15] <Vexatos> because everything is so heavily intertwined

L364[04:35:18] <Inari> you just need to set up an expected test environmnet :D

L365[04:35:21] <Vexatos> and hacky+

L366[04:35:32] <vifino> Vexatos: https://puu.sh/mmF2x.pdf

L367[04:35:42] <Vexatos> Inari, yes, and "expected" means 1000 variables set the way they must be

L368[04:35:49] <Inari> xD

L369[04:35:51] <Inari> nah

L370[04:36:05] <Vexatos> yes

L371[04:36:08] <Vexatos> Unit tests are crap.

L372[04:36:14] <Vexatos> You test in-game

L373[04:36:18] <Vexatos> saves time and sanity

L374[04:36:19] <Inari> lots of code only does e.g. a single call to MC

L375[04:36:24] <Vexatos> HAHAHAHA

L376[04:36:26] <Inari> you can return various expected results from that

L377[04:36:27] <Vexatos> yea

L378[04:36:31] <Vexatos> and that call calls another 20

L379[04:36:38] <Inari> yeah but you dont care what it calls in MC

L380[04:36:44] <Inari> you're testing your code to respond to MCs results

L381[04:36:54] <Vexatos> Well what if you want it to return a tileentity?

L382[04:37:03] <Vexatos> With specific NBT data?

L383[04:37:10] <Inari> then you create that tileeentity and pass it back

L384[04:37:14] <Vexatos> you could either set that manually OR you could just launch the damn game

L385[04:37:26] <Inari> yeah

L386[04:37:39] <Inari> you can launch the damn game, every single time you make any kind of change in the code, for every single thing to test

L387[04:37:42] <Inari> hf

L388[04:38:13] <Inari> but yeah thats still why nova is a better idea than froge

L389[04:38:16] <Inari> but, people *shrug*

L390[04:39:26] <Inari> Vexatos: thouhg i guess it works best with mods built for it

L391[04:39:35] <Inari> that interface with forge and MC code through single points in their code

L392[04:39:49] <Vexatos> <Inari> you can launch the damn game, every single time you make any kind of change in the code, for every single thing to test

L393[04:39:50] <Vexatos> No

L394[04:39:53] <Vexatos> you can just hot-swap

L395[04:39:54] <Vexatos> >_>

L396[04:39:55] <Kodos> Vexatos: no outer edge border pixel? I am disappoint

L397[04:39:59] <Inari> Vexatos: x.x

L398[04:40:15] <Inari> Vexatos:my point is that unit tests will always test

L399[04:40:21] <Inari> everytime you change something, you can re-test

L400[04:40:29] <Vexatos> or just press F9

L401[04:40:35] <Inari> there'll be thousands of conditions to test, you dont want to do a thousand tests by hand everytime you change something

L402[04:40:37] <Vexatos> while the game is still running

L403[04:40:54] <Vexatos> Inari, please

L404[04:40:59] <Vexatos> It. will. Not. Work.

L405[04:41:33] <Inari> hm, well maybe its best to write a special testing harness or the like for MC

L406[04:42:42] <Vexatos> Kodos, what do you mean

L407[04:43:28] <Inari> Vexatos: well trying it better tahn nothing :P we cant have so many bugs in OC

L408[04:43:56] <Vexatos> just stop already. Noone in MC uses unit tests for a good reason

L409[04:44:01] <Vexatos> Unless it's specifically MC-independent

L410[04:44:39] <Inari> yeah, the reason is "beacuse thats how we do it and noone has done it better yet"

L411[04:45:15] <Inari> as has been the reason to use modlaoder before forge, as has been the reason frames were supposedly impossible, etc :P

L412[04:48:20] <Vexatos> it's possible

L413[04:48:22] <Vexatos> of course it is

L414[04:48:27] <Vexatos> it's just not worth the effort

L415[04:48:37] <Vexatos> creating a hundred tests instead of just launching the game

L416[04:48:48] <Vexatos> you could waste your time more efficientöy

L417[04:48:53] <Vexatos> s/ö/l/

L418[04:48:53] <MichiBot> <Vexatos> you could waste your time more efficiently

L419[04:49:24] <Inari> Vexatos: but it isnt just launching the game <.<

L420[04:49:28] <Inari> thats the point...

L421[04:49:46] <Vexatos> it is

L422[04:49:53] <Inari> its launch game => go through checklist of 100 points with cases to setup and results to verify

L423[04:49:55] <Inari> every time

L424[04:49:57] <Inari> noone does that

L425[04:49:58] <Vexatos> What?

L426[04:49:58] <Inari> or wil

L427[04:49:59] <Vexatos> no

L428[04:50:00] <Vexatos> not really

L429[04:50:05] <Inari> thats what unit tests do

L430[04:50:06] <Vexatos> it takes 10 sconds to launch my game

L431[04:50:10] <Vexatos> then I go into the world

L432[04:50:15] <Vexatos> get the new item I made

L433[04:50:19] <Vexatos> or the block I fixed

L434[04:50:21] <Vexatos> place it

L435[04:50:23] <Vexatos> test it

L436[04:50:24] <Vexatos> done

L437[04:50:34] <Vexatos> if it doesn't run, I make breakpoints

L438[04:50:35] <Vexatos> etc etc

L439[04:50:36] <Inari> congratulations, you tested one thing and didnt verify nothing else broke becuase of the code you changed

L440[04:50:46] <Vexatos> well how could anything else change

L441[04:50:53] <Vexatos> if I only changed one thing >_>

L442[04:50:53] <Inari> you also likely didnt think throuhg all the expected calls and results to your code

L443[04:51:04] <Vexatos> It's not like tape drives would break when I change camera code

L444[04:51:13] <Vexatos> also I do

L445[04:51:46] <Vexatos> You know, typing "setColor" five times with different params is still faster than writing tests

L446[04:51:48] <Inari> depends on what code you change, and other stuff in the same block can still break

L447[04:52:00] <Vexatos> not really, no

L448[04:52:02] <Inari> Vexatos: yeah but you dont do that everytime you cahnge code

L449[04:52:04] <Vexatos> unless you're really bad at coding

L450[04:52:12] <Vexatos> no, I only test those things I changed

L451[04:52:26] <Vexatos> If I change getColor I obviously won't test setColor again >_>

L452[04:52:28] <Inari> if you have a large mdo theres lots of intertwined things though

L453[04:52:35] <Inari> and stress tests would also be much nicer if automated

L454[04:52:54] <Vexatos> you can't do stress tests unless you are running a server with 100 people

L455[04:53:15] <Vexatos> All those issues in OC only showed up due to many people with non-localhost pings

L456[04:53:26] <Vexatos> you can't test that using JUnit

L457[04:53:43] <Inari> well i said stress test

L458[04:53:45] <Inari> not unit test

L459[04:53:55] <Vexatos> Well you can't stress test networking

L460[04:54:00] <Inari> you can x.x

L461[04:54:05] <Vexatos> Not like this

L462[04:54:22] <Vexatos> and every single OC bug we found but one was only found because the server was sending packets all around the world

L463[04:54:27] <Vexatos> only that's why we noticed

L464[04:54:41] <Inari> you can simulate high pings... and you can still see how many packets rae moved about and such stuff

L465[04:55:06] <Vexatos> Yes but you cannot force the game to send a thousand packets because that's not a valid test then

L466[04:55:23] <Inari> you dont force it

L467[04:55:29] <Inari> you make a server and connect 100 fake clients to it

L468[04:55:49] <Vexatos> you need to figure out where the packets are sent and in this instance one bug was because every OC screen in a multiblock sent it. So you would have to simulate a screen multiblock instead of just a single screen, and for that you need to know it was caused by multiblockiness in the first place

L469[04:55:52] <Vexatos> which we didn't

L470[04:56:01] <Vexatos> For Unit tests you first need to know what you want to test

L471[04:56:13] <Inari> everything?

L472[04:56:22] <Vexatos> You cannot test every scenario

L473[04:56:25] <Vexatos> you can not

L474[04:56:29] <Vexatos> it is not possible

L475[04:56:32] <Inari> not having a screen multiblock around fro a test would be a gross oversight

L476[04:56:40] <Vexatos> stop being naïve

L477[04:56:56] <Vexatos> Unit tests are great for "does this work as intended"

L478[04:56:59] <Inari> have every block about, in lots of different combinations

L479[04:57:06] <Vexatos> but it doesn't help against things you never expected

L480[04:57:08] <Inari> yeah but we're talkin about stress tests atm anyway

L481[04:57:08] <Vexatos> which are most bugs

L482[04:57:35] <Vexatos> No single computer could handle a stress test like this

L483[04:57:39] <Vexatos> we had a hundred computers

L484[04:57:45] <Vexatos> and then the bug manifested

L485[04:57:47] <Inari> the clients arent actual clients

L486[04:57:48] <Inari> so yeah it could

L487[04:57:57] <Vexatos> well they would have to behave like actual clients

L488[04:58:05] <Inari> you can make them do that

L489[04:58:16] <Vexatos> GOD DAMNIT STOP ALREADY

L490[04:58:19] <Vexatos> I give up

L491[04:58:21] <Inari> lol

L492[04:58:30] <Vexatos> You are way too naïve

L493[04:58:36] <Inari> what do we learn: use nova

L494[04:58:37] <Inari> *hides*

L495[04:58:39] <Vexatos> Have fun trying it

L496[04:58:44] <Vexatos> go waste your time

L497[04:59:00] <Vexatos> A mod author could spend an hour writing test or an hour actually testing. Guess what he does

L498[04:59:17] <Vexatos> Now to wait for Sangar

L499[04:59:33] <Inari> sangar already said he doesnt write tests cause hes too lazy xP

L500[04:59:54] <Antheus> Sangar is god, and doesn't need no tests :P

L501[05:00:00] <Inari> but well a lot of bugs couldbe found with tests

L502[05:00:27] <Inari> i guess the biggest issue is that noone made a testing framework for MC

L503[05:00:28] <Vexatos> I am talking about the bug

L504[05:00:30] <Vexatos> >_>

L505[05:01:43] <Vexatos> Inari, how are you supposed to 'test' http://git.io/vuowe for instance. You can't test anything you didn't think about

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L507[05:04:34] <Inari> well "what if someone takes out the tape" should be something you think about though?

L508[05:07:12] <Vexatos> 90% of the bugs are related to things you didn't think about or related to other mods doing bad things

L509[05:07:21] <Vexatos> for Computronics at least

L510[05:08:18] <Inari> hm i wonder how nova runs its tests

L511[05:08:30] <Inari> Vexatos: then think more ;D

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L513[05:12:04] <Inari> he thought too hard. rip vex 2016

L514[05:14:45] <Inari> lua progrmas would probably be somewhat hard to test

L515[05:15:02] <Inari> and well im not claiming no mod will ever have a bug cause TESTS

L516[05:15:05] <Inari> but finding more bugs etc :p

L517[05:24:09] <Kodos> Bout time someone gave him a hard time

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L519[05:25:49] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L520[05:26:28] * Vexatos snagar the pokes

L521[05:26:47] <vifino> Vexatoast!

L522[05:27:05] * vifino sets Vexatoast on fire

L523[05:27:12] <vifino> Mmmm, crispy Vexatoast.

L524[05:27:46] <Vexatos> Vexash

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L526[05:33:46] <vifino> I should set neovim as my system shell somehow.

L527[05:35:43] <Kodos> Vexatos: rack-mounted tape deck when

L528[05:37:55] <Vexatos> Kodos, when asie refines the audio API to allow for that in 1.8.9

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L530[05:38:30] <Vexatos> I guess :P

L531[05:38:36] <Vexatos> Doubt he'll do it in 1.7

L532[05:38:37] <Vexatos> >_>

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L541[07:06:23] <Magik6k> ~w filesystem

L542[07:06:23] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/api:filesystem

L543[07:06:43] <Magik6k> ~w filesystem component

L544[07:06:43] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:filesystem

L545[07:13:29] <Kodos> We need rack mounted raiiiidds

L546[07:14:57] <Inari> we need rack mounted bras

L547[07:15:49] <Cruor> we need cute drones flying around all over the place :I

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L549[07:20:48] <Elizabeth> Inari, lewd

L550[07:21:22] <Negi> What is?

L551[07:21:53] <Elizabeth> Inari is

L552[07:22:07] <Vexatos> Once Sangar wakes up we'll hopefully have rack-mounted LEDs

L553[07:22:25] * Inari mounts a bra on Elizabeth's rack

L554[07:22:35] <Elizabeth> it better be stylish!

L555[07:22:51] <Elizabeth> i don't want no plain boring shit

L556[07:23:52] <Vexatos> That reminds me I can stop working on this stupid annoying crap 1.8 port

L557[07:24:01] <Vexatos> and add SSDs to Computronics instead ;_;

L558[07:26:57] <Negi> SSDs yay

L559[07:27:38] <Vexatos> Indeed

L560[07:27:42] <Vexatos> they'll be glorious

L561[07:27:54] <Vexatos> Need to write a second custom Explosion class for them >_> yay

L562[07:28:05] <Skye> ._.

L563[07:28:51] <Kodos> Not the SSDs you were expecting?

L564[07:29:31] <Izaya> how would I match for a + in a string?

L565[07:29:35] <Negi> Totally the SSDs I was expecting, at least.

L566[07:29:37] <Kodos> I wonder how hard it would be to make SSDs check for adjacent racks, and propogate to all the attached racks

L567[07:29:42] <Negi> Izaya: '\+' ? ._.

L568[07:29:52] <Izaya> Negi, complains about invalid escape sequence

L569[07:29:58] <Negi> Oh

L570[07:30:21] <Negi> Get the character code then, I guess.

L571[07:31:06] <Izaya> nope, same issue

L572[07:31:07] <Vexatos> Kodos, not that hard

L573[07:31:13] <Vexatos> but that'd be quite overpowered, no?

L574[07:31:47] <Negi> *destroys a whole wall of servers*

L575[07:33:11] * vifino slaps Inari

L576[07:33:11] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing

L577[07:33:13] <vifino> No touchy.

L578[07:33:35] <Izaya> would %+i match +i?

L579[07:34:11] <Negi> Try it. *shrugs*

L580[07:34:41] <Negi> Seems to.

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L582[07:35:56] <Izaya> esper is weird

L583[07:36:04] <Skye> Huh?

L584[07:36:05] <Izaya> do you need to respond to a ping on all nets?

L585[07:36:09] <Izaya> to log in?

L586[07:36:31] <Negi> No idea

L587[07:36:44] <Elizabeth> I think it depends, some require a ping response in the initial connection to stop flood spamming or something

L588[07:36:46] <vifino> Izaya: Some irc servers, yes.

L589[07:36:56] <vifino> Nothing unusual.

L590[07:37:54] <Elizabeth> also Esper's servers are a bit disjointed with other stuff, like ping timeouts

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L593[07:41:23] <Kodos> I just fucking love how fucking webchat randomly decides to close my connection

L594[07:41:45] <Izaya> gotta love webchat

L595[07:41:48] * Elizabeth wonders if her webchat stuff is still active...

L596[07:41:52] <malcom2073> Why are you using webchat if you care about reliability? :P

L597[07:42:16] <Elizabeth> the answer to my question is no

L598[07:42:25] <Kodos> malcom2073: Because I

L599[07:42:34] <Kodos> am on my wife's PC, and she has a fit when I install anything

L600[07:42:46] <malcom2073> That's unfortunate

L601[07:42:50] <malcom2073> but understandable

L602[07:43:42] <Cruor> Kodos: INSTALL ERRYTHING

L603[07:44:24] <Mimiru> Oh ffs, 199 points on curseforge.... I need 200 for my $10 amazon card

L604[07:44:24] <Mimiru> lol

L605[07:45:04] <Elizabeth> y'know, the only use I've found for windows 8's metro snapping is for irc

L606[07:46:31] <Elizabeth> http://puu.sh/mmQbD/e920dcac44.png

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L610[08:18:47] * vifino stretches, wanders around for a bit before walking to Elizabeth, kissing her and curling up on her, napping

L611[08:19:23] * Elizabeth pets Vifino then goes back to doing her coursework

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L613[08:30:56] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos

L614[08:33:11] <Kodos> Okay, now, Minecraft, Netflix, or ESO

L615[08:33:24] <Kodos> Or a nap

L616[08:33:47] <Vexatos> Damnit where is sangar

L617[08:34:46] <Kodos> Link me that code again

L618[08:34:49] <Vexatos> adding SSDs to Minecraft the most inefficient way possible http://paste.asie.pl/W0TQ

L619[08:34:51] <Vexatos> \:D/

L620[08:35:33] <Cruor> Kodos: RS :>

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L622[08:36:15] <vifino> Vexatos: You made a rackmountable explosive?!

L623[08:36:19] <vifino> *.*

L624[08:36:29] <Vexatos> vifino, Adding SSDs to Computronics

L625[08:36:34] <Vexatos> just like I added SD cards before

L626[08:36:38] <vifino> Booooom?

L627[08:36:43] <Vexatos> Server Self-destructors

L628[08:37:29] <Cruor> Vexatos: give me all of them

L629[08:37:36] <Vexatos> Kodos, now it destroys every adjacent rack in a 16-block radius ;_;

L630[08:37:58] <Kodos> Whee

L631[08:38:07] <Kodos> Don't you mean, It would if it worked =D

L632[08:38:29] <Kodos> Also, have you considered a different front facing for your light board?

L633[08:38:40] <Kodos> having the lights on the outer edges looks weird af

L634[08:39:23] <Vexatos> I suggested these configurations http://i.imgur.com/EKPNXbu.png

L635[08:39:33] <Vexatos> everyone who responded told me the first one is the best

L636[08:39:38] <Vexatos> and noone suggested anything better

L637[08:39:48] <vifino> second one looks decent

L638[08:39:49] <Kodos> Well

L639[08:39:55] <vifino> Vexatos: i have another suggestion

L640[08:39:56] <Kodos> A server's front face is 3x14

L641[08:40:00] <Kodos> Let me draw something up

L642[08:40:06] <vifino> ^

L643[08:40:28] <vifino> Kodos: while you are at it, can you give me the base so I can draw mine?

L644[08:43:10] <Vexatos> damnit that SSD just scared the shite out of me

L645[08:43:16] <Vexatos> And I expected it to explode

L646[08:43:19] <Vexatos> ;_;

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L648[08:44:43] <Cruor> Vexatos: did it... not explode?!

L649[08:44:47] <Vexatos> it did

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L651[08:46:05] <Kodos> http://www.piskelapp.com/p/agxzfnBpc2tlbC1hcHByEwsSBlBpc2tlbBiAgIDo5oDWCAw/view

L652[08:46:09] <Kodos> Vexatos:

L653[08:46:15] <Kodos> 4 different suggestions

L654[08:47:39] <Vexatos> Ask Kubuxu

L655[08:47:44] <Kodos> Why?

L656[08:47:53] <Vexatos> Because I made the thing for him

L657[08:48:07] <Kodos> Yes, because I hadn't been asking for rack mounted colorful lamps before

L658[08:48:22] <Kubuxu> Choose what you wat

L659[08:48:38] <Kodos> I've been wanting what is now the network activity light as a colorable light on servers for... well since servers came out

L660[08:48:52] <Cruor> make all the 3x14 individualy useable :I

L661[08:49:08] <Kodos> That would be an advanced lightboard

L662[08:49:11] <Cruor> who needs rack mount lamps when you can rack mount screen :>

L663[08:49:15] <Kodos> Pass a table of tables

L664[08:49:24] <Kodos> That have x, y, and color for each one

L665[08:49:30] <Cruor> .-.

L666[08:49:41] <Kodos> Oh, you wanted simple?

L667[08:49:42] *** [ is now known as `

L668[08:49:46] <Kodos> Go play with ComputerCraft =)

L669[08:49:46] <Cruor> nah

L670[08:50:11] <Cruor> why would i play with CC? .-.

L671[08:50:17] <Cruor> it uses Lua q_q

L672[08:51:18] <Kodos> Anyway

L673[08:51:22] <Kodos> Vexatos: What do you think of those 4?

L674[08:51:35] <Cruor> ill take the advance one :I

L675[08:51:42] * Kodos bops Cruor

L676[08:51:48] <Cruor> :<

L677[08:52:02] <Kodos> Don't you have Invention to go max?

L678[08:52:08] <Cruor> naaaah

L679[08:52:13] <Cruor> thiev hunt and con :I

L680[08:52:22] <Cruor> thiev aint happening this eon

L681[08:52:23] <Inari> Kodos: ShadowTiger3, eh?

L682[08:52:26] <Vexatos> Kodos, that's only five lights though :/

L683[08:52:33] <Vexatos> err four

L684[08:52:35] <Kodos> Inari, my wife's handle

L685[08:52:39] <Inari> xD

L686[08:52:41] <Kodos> Vexatos: .25 RF/t

L687[08:52:50] <Kodos> Since you were going with 1 RF/t for the board

L688[08:52:52] <Vexatos> I mean

L689[08:52:54] <Vexatos> only four

L690[08:53:00] <Kodos> What's wrong with 4 lights?

L691[08:53:03] <Vexatos> that's 20% less :P

L692[08:53:06] <Cruor> so the advanced board is a thing? :I

L693[08:53:14] <Kodos> Also, there are 6 lights in one of those

L694[08:53:30] <Kodos> I literally made 4 suggestions in one picture

L695[08:53:47] <Cruor> oh, time for home .-.

L696[08:53:50] * Cruor poofs

L697[08:54:23] <Kodos> I just want it to be a thing, so I can write a flash function in my lib

L698[08:54:42] <Vexatos> Kodos, if any, the top-most one

L699[08:55:04] <Vexatos> one pixel is way too tiny

L700[08:55:13] <Kodos> Ehh, I guess. Works for the network light tho

L701[08:55:23] <Kodos> I just want status lights for things because reasons

L702[08:55:43] <Kodos> I also had an idea for another type of light board

L703[08:56:33] <Kodos> Basically a single light, like the one I have that goes all the way across, but instead of a color value being passed, you just give it a number from 1-12, and it fills from left to right that many pixels

L704[08:56:39] <Kodos> So you could have a meter of sorts for whatever

L705[08:57:41] <Kodos> How will color be set up on the light board? Overlay, or just on/off

L706[08:57:51] <Inari> i hate when java access violates

L707[09:01:20] <Vexatos> Kodos, both

L708[09:01:29] <Vexatos> has setColor and setActive

L709[09:01:45] <Kodos> Mkay

L710[09:02:25] <Kodos> Same setup as the colorful lamp wrt color setting?

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L713[09:04:41] <Vexatos> same as the colorful upgrade, rather

L714[09:05:51] <Kodos> Haven't messed with that yet, tbh

L715[09:06:03] <Kodos> I don't use robots... I would say much, but at all really

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L717[09:13:20] <nxsupert> .oc capacitor

L718[09:13:21] <^v4> nxsupert, tcpnet not running.

L719[09:13:31] <nxsupert> .ocdoc capacitor

L720[09:13:36] <nxsupert> !ocdoc capacitor

L721[09:13:39] <nxsupert> Umm.

L722[09:13:55] <nxsupert> Whats the command for oc doc?

L723[09:13:57] <Kodos> ~w capacitor

L724[09:13:57] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/block:capacitor

L725[09:14:03] <nxsupert> Thanks :D

L726[09:14:32] <nxsupert> Huh.

L727[09:14:54] <nxsupert> Is there a way to get the energy stored in a capacitor?

L728[09:16:32] <Kodos> Not afaik

L729[09:16:58] <nxsupert> Found a way.

L730[09:17:05] <Kodos> Do tell

L731[09:18:17] <nxsupert> computer.energy()

L732[09:18:36] <nxsupert> I mean it gives the total energy but that doesn't matter.

L733[09:18:55] <Kodos> Ah, I would've mentioned energy() but you asked about a capacitor specifically

L734[09:18:56] <Elizabeth> either WAILA or the analyser will tell you the individual amount, computer.energy[Max]() give you the network total

L735[09:19:39] <Kodos> Just computer.energy()

L736[09:20:04] <Elizabeth> isn't there a max version though?

L737[09:20:26] <Kodos> Not as far as I can tell, calling energy() reports the current and max for how much ever the network can hold currently

L738[09:20:40] <Elizabeth> oh, like 2 return values?

L739[09:20:50] <Vexatos> You have computer.energy

L740[09:20:53] <Vexatos> and computer.maxEnergy

L741[09:20:58] <Kodos> ^

L742[09:21:03] <Elizabeth> fair enough

L743[09:21:21] <Elizabeth> it's been a while since I was concerned with energy on the OC side

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L745[09:22:34] <Kodos> Before my PC died, I played on a server where I had plans to open a datacenter that most of the server's software would run on, and then just transmit data through OC telecomms wires to wherever it needed to go, and have a computer deal with it

L746[09:25:56] <Kodos> I may just do that in SSP

L747[09:32:11] <Kodos> ~w custom os

L748[09:32:12] <ocdoc> Predicted http://ocd.cil.li/tutorial:custom_oses

L749[09:32:35] <Kodos> For microcontrollers, what's the cleanest way to simulate os.sleep?

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L751[09:38:53] <Inari> why bc robots such a pain D:

L752[09:39:44] <Kodos> Dunno, but MFW I'm trolling my wife by putting videos like https://youtu.be/ZZ5LpwO-An4 in her watch history

L753[09:40:21] <Inari> uh okay

L754[09:41:26] <Inari> not vids like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOw4G0wBBZ0 ?

L755[09:41:26] <MichiBot> Inari: Saint October - Loli Red Transformation | length: 32s | Likes: 8 Dislikes: 2 Views: 3541 | by Mantis King

L756[09:43:31] <MajGenRelativity> ds8412, why are you ` now?

L757[09:43:31] <Kodos> No

L758[09:43:51] <`> i'm not ds84182 ;;

L759[09:43:52] <`> ;-;

L760[09:44:02] <MajGenRelativity> oh wait

L761[09:44:05] <MajGenRelativity> are you disieben

L762[09:44:14] <MajGenRelativity> or something similar to that spelling?

L763[09:44:24] <vifino> no, he is justy.

L764[09:44:31] <MajGenRelativity> ?

L765[09:44:38] <vifino> justy.

L766[09:45:01] <MajGenRelativity> I thought ds(insert rest of name here) was doing the thing where he became `-`, and now `

L767[09:45:11] <MajGenRelativity> Is this a different person?

L768[09:45:22] <vifino> Yes.

L769[09:45:22] <`> yeah

L770[09:45:29] <MajGenRelativity> oh

L771[09:45:31] <MajGenRelativity> my apologies

L772[09:45:42] <MajGenRelativity> It is rather difficult when people don't have actual names

L773[09:46:25] <`> lol

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L775[09:51:06] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, is your reactor control program capable of operating hundreds of control rods at once?

L776[09:51:32] <Vexatos> sure

L777[09:51:37] <Vexatos> if Big Reactors allows that

L778[09:51:49] <MajGenRelativity> Ok

L779[09:51:58] <MajGenRelativity> Is it capable of operating more than one reactor at the same time?

L780[09:52:40] <Vexatos> no

L781[09:53:12] <MajGenRelativity> :(

L782[09:53:13] <MajGenRelativity> Ok

L783[09:53:37] <MajGenRelativity> perhaps I can modify it so an overlord computer can control the computers controlling the reactors.....

L784[09:53:44] <Kodos> So, Vex, lightboards when =D

L785[09:53:56] <Vexatos> Kodos, whenever Sangar comes alive

L786[09:54:10] <Kodos> By the power of Scala, I summon thee, Sangar

L787[09:54:41] <MajGenRelativity> Kodos, I think you mean Snagar

L788[09:55:09] <Inari> hows anyone supposed to figure out this stupid robotics system ;-;

L789[09:56:11] <MajGenRelativity> In OC?

L790[09:56:16] <Inari> in buildcraft

L791[09:56:19] <MajGenRelativity> ah

L792[09:56:34] <Vexatos> Inari, it's not that hard

L793[09:56:59] <Inari> well after lots of yt and weird wikis i manged to figure out what i apparenlty need

L794[09:57:02] <Inari> but now robot blinks red

L795[09:57:02] <Kodos> Honestly, the only thing I find useful in BC is the programming thinger that you can use to save/load stuff onto EEPROMs

L796[09:57:06] <Inari> and i have no clue wtf blinks red means

L797[09:57:06] <Inari> :P

L798[09:58:18] <Kodos> Good luck with that, I'm still workign on Microcontroller EEPROM code

L799[10:00:22] <Inari> Vexatos: so yeah its refusing to go to work :P

L800[10:00:36] <Vexatos> red on means it's looking for a job

L801[10:00:44] <Inari> well ti goes red and goes off again

L802[10:00:45] <Inari> ;-;

L803[10:00:46] <Vexatos> red off means it's currently asleep and will wake up soon

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L805[10:00:52] <Vexatos> that means it has no job

L806[10:00:57] <Inari> well ti clearly has

L807[10:01:03] <Vexatos> which robot?

L808[10:01:17] <Inari> lumberjack

L809[10:01:26] <Kodos> Do you have a work area assigned?

L810[10:01:30] <Inari> ya

L811[10:01:37] <Kodos> How because I couldn't figure that part out

L812[10:01:42] <Vexatos> do you have a place for it to get axes?

L813[10:01:50] <Inari> you make a zone planner

L814[10:01:54] <Inari> make a map thingy

L815[10:01:59] <Inari> stick that in and configure the zones

L816[10:02:02] <MajGenRelativity> My reactor is now at Stage 5, finalize top casing

L817[10:02:10] <Inari> Vexatos: dont think so :P how do i have a place for it to get axes

L818[10:02:25] <Kodos> I would assume a chest of axes within the work zone

L819[10:02:52] <Inari> you woudl assume wrongly

L820[10:02:58] <MajGenRelativity> Can OC drones use weapons?

L821[10:03:00] <Vexatos> Inari, have a wooden pipe

L822[10:03:03] <Vexatos> next to a chest

L823[10:03:06] <Vexatos> chest full of axes

L824[10:03:09] <Vexatos> docking station on pipe

L825[10:03:17] <Vexatos> gate on pipe set to "provide items"

L826[10:03:34] <Inari> jesus i should have just used OC

L827[10:03:40] <Inari> at least that doesnt need 3000 things for everything :P

L828[10:04:44] <Inari> heres to hope it can use tcon axes, hint: i tprobabyl wont

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L830[10:07:01] <MajGenRelativity> You know what would be amazing?

L831[10:07:05] <MajGenRelativity> A snow vacuum in MC

L832[10:07:12] <MajGenRelativity> It literally does one thing

L833[10:07:16] <MajGenRelativity> remove snow cover

L834[10:07:21] <dangranos> oh

L835[10:07:36] <Inari> its called torches

L836[10:07:37] <Inari> Kappa

L837[10:07:51] <MajGenRelativity> true

L838[10:07:58] <MajGenRelativity> Can OC drones use weapons?

L839[10:08:37] <vifino> MajGenRelativity: They aren't your flying bees with pokey sticks.

L840[10:08:51] <MajGenRelativity> vifino, so that means they can't use weapons?

L841[10:09:12] <MajGenRelativity> But I heard that Izaya drone swarm drones at BTM15 dealt damage

L842[10:09:14] <Kodos> vifino: Dare I even ask?

L843[10:09:35] <Izaya> MajGenRelativity, it managed to crash the server

L844[10:09:45] <MajGenRelativity> Izaya, but how did they do damage?

L845[10:09:57] <Inari> by crashing the server?

L846[10:10:09] <MajGenRelativity> Someone claims he/she took damage from your drones....

L847[10:10:10] <vifino> Kodos: Hmm?

L848[10:10:25] <Kodos> Remember, I have MGR on ignore, so I have no idea what you were responding to

L849[10:10:51] <Izaya> They didn't, to my knowledge?

L850[10:10:55] <MajGenRelativity> Huh, ok

L851[10:10:57] * MajGenRelativity is sad

L852[10:11:06] <MajGenRelativity> I wanted flying bees with extremely pokey sticks

L853[10:11:21] <vifino> Kodos: MajGenRelativity asked if oc drones can use weapons.

L854[10:11:29] <Inari> Vexatos: it still refuses to work :< it doesnt go pick up the axe either

L855[10:11:34] <Kodos> WTB Shock upgrade

L856[10:11:40] <Inari> do i need to pipe the axe into the station? Oo

L857[10:11:43] <MajGenRelativity> Shock upgrade?

L858[10:11:45] <MajGenRelativity> what is that?

L859[10:12:28] <Izaya> well in theory

L860[10:12:33] <Vexatos> Inari, did you add axes to the gate filter

L861[10:12:34] <Izaya> if you gave them IC2 lasers

L862[10:12:40] <Vexatos> (you need a quartz or emerald gate)

L863[10:12:46] <Inari> ohright i had to place another gate ;-;

L864[10:13:04] <Kodos> Ugh

L865[10:13:06] <Inari> i dont think me and robots go well together

L866[10:13:07] <Kodos> Wife wants me to clean a bit today

L867[10:13:11] <Kodos> She's yet to do the dishes

L868[10:13:16] <MajGenRelativity> Izaya, IC2 lasers

L869[10:13:18] <MajGenRelativity> elaborate more

L870[10:13:23] <MajGenRelativity> I desire flying bees

L871[10:13:25] <Izaya> drones can right-click

L872[10:13:31] <Izaya> but only downwards

L873[10:13:43] <Izaya> or really any projectile weapon

L874[10:13:46] <Izaya> in theory

L875[10:14:04] <MajGenRelativity> oh yes

L876[10:14:18] * MajGenRelativity ponders auto-crafting TiC crossbows

L877[10:14:24] <MajGenRelativity> OH!

L878[10:14:27] <MajGenRelativity> EVEN BETTER

L879[10:14:30] <MajGenRelativity> I HEF PLEN

L880[10:14:39] <MajGenRelativity> Prepare, TACEATS4 will have

L881[10:14:46] <MajGenRelativity> MAJGENRELATIVITY DRONE SWARMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

L882[10:14:52] <Inari> so

L883[10:14:54] <Izaya> inb4 you corrupt the world

L884[10:14:55] <Inari> wheres taceast3

L885[10:15:08] <Inari> how do drones even carsh a server ;_;

L886[10:15:18] <Izaya> Inari, ask asie if they still have logs

L887[10:15:21] <MajGenRelativity> Inari, TACEATS3 has already been planned out

L888[10:15:28] <MajGenRelativity> TACEATS1 is nearing completion

L889[10:15:32] <Inari> lol

L890[10:15:39] <MajGenRelativity> The latest designed version of TACEATS is TACEATS3172

L891[10:15:54] <MajGenRelativity> Which is basically an MC super-computer capable of controlling real life robots and drones

L892[10:16:06] <Izaya> y'know

L893[10:16:09] <Izaya> 99% of the time

L894[10:16:13] <Izaya> I'm sure he's bullshitting

L895[10:16:14] <Inari> less planning ,more making :D

L896[10:16:16] <Inari> he is

L897[10:16:18] <MajGenRelativity> Note, no version of TACEATS exists between 6 and 3171

L898[10:16:32] <MajGenRelativity> I'm just leaving a very large version number space open XD

L899[10:16:43] <Kodos> Let me know if he gets spammy and/or breaks any rules, guys

L900[10:16:53] <Izaya> is 'nearing completion' -> nearing dev stage?

L901[10:16:57] <MajGenRelativity> Kodos, I never break the rules

L902[10:17:07] <MajGenRelativity> Izaya, nearing completion is nearing actual deployment

L903[10:17:20] <MajGenRelativity> As in, I can use it to do stuff

L904[10:17:21] <Izaya> let's see the code then

L905[10:17:26] <MajGenRelativity> Izaya, sure

L906[10:17:41] <MajGenRelativity> It won't run atm because I am re-writing the table-creation part, but you can see the code

L907[10:17:52] * Izaya waits

L908[10:18:04] <MajGenRelativity> I have to get my FTP client running

L909[10:18:08] <Inari> so

L910[10:18:10] <Inari> whats taceats1 then

L911[10:18:40] <Izaya> Totally A Crappy Electronic Attack Simulator version 1

L912[10:18:58] <Inari> well but whats it supposed to do

L913[10:19:01] <Kodos> taceats1, sometimes he eats 2

L914[10:19:37] <MajGenRelativity> Inari, TACEATS stands for Total Area Computing Environment And Tactical System

L915[10:19:38] <MajGenRelativity> http://pastebin.com/4ELU0vYr

L916[10:19:45] <MajGenRelativity> TACEATS1 is a glorified alarm system

L917[10:19:46] <Inari> yeah but whats v 1 supposed to do

L918[10:20:05] <MajGenRelativity> You write down names of bad guys, and it tells them to go away when they approach XD

L919[10:20:18] <Inari> right...

L920[10:20:23] <MajGenRelativity> TACEATS2 is/will be capable of shooting the bad guy's in various parts of their body

L921[10:20:43] <Inari> how long did v1 take to plan and then code? :o

L922[10:21:10] <MajGenRelativity> TACEATS as a whole, it percolated in my brain for 4 months

L923[10:21:22] <MajGenRelativity> As far as coding, I've spent about 5 hours on it

L924[10:21:48] <MajGenRelativity> I do want to say though, I'm not just saying stuff

L925[10:22:02] <MajGenRelativity> With the exception of TACEATS3172, I intend on bringing all editions to reality

L926[10:22:18] <MajGenRelativity> Note that TACEATS(insert number here) isn't a version number, it's an edition number

L927[10:22:28] <MajGenRelativity> Multiple versions will co-exist at any given time

L928[10:24:48] <MajGenRelativity> Versions 4 and up are EqD Armed Forces property only at the time-being

L929[10:25:24] <dangranos> EqD?

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L931[10:27:09] <MajGenRelativity> dangranos, Equilibriant Duality

L932[10:27:53] <Inari> Vexatos: woo its gimpy but it works :P thanks

L933[10:28:21] <MajGenRelativity> Welp

L934[10:28:25] <MajGenRelativity> this is annoying

L935[10:28:35] <MajGenRelativity> my reactor won't assemble with some dumb error code

L936[10:30:45] <MajGenRelativity> Fuel rod at -19974 122 -20028 must be part of a vertical column that reaches the entire height of the reactor, with a control rod at top

L937[10:30:49] <MajGenRelativity> But, it is

L938[10:30:52] <MajGenRelativity> I did it 3 times!

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L940[10:32:58] <malcom2073> MajGenRelativity: You have an extra fuel rod at the bottom somewhere hanging out?

L941[10:36:33] <MajGenRelativity> I have to check in a few minutes

L942[10:37:16] * MajGenRelativity warms up before diving into cryotheum

L943[10:37:18] <malcom2073> fwiw: I always check that the reactor assembles before flooding it heh

L944[10:38:16] <MajGenRelativity> :|

L945[10:38:20] <MajGenRelativity> I know that now

L946[10:41:47] <Inari> ohnice

L947[10:41:50] <Inari> robots can use tcon axes :P

L948[10:46:24] <MajGenRelativity> I think I caught the error

L949[10:47:43] <dangranos> http://www.xkcd.com/686/

L950[10:47:45] <MichiBot> XKCD Comic Name: Admin Mourning Posted on: 1/8/2010

L951[10:48:38] <Inari> help

L952[10:48:41] <Inari> my robot wnet MIA

L953[10:48:42] <Inari> ;-;

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L955[10:54:07] <Inari> soooo

L956[10:54:09] <nxsupert> Is there anything that prevents local variables in the bios being used by the OS?

L957[10:54:12] <Inari> Vexatos: where di my robot go D:

L958[10:54:23] <MajGenRelativity> Inari, it ran away

L959[10:54:37] <nxsupert> Because the bios launches the OS from within its own scope.

L960[10:55:00] <MajGenRelativity> MY REACTOR ASSEMBLED!

L961[10:55:35] <MajGenRelativity> It can take 72k yellorium :D

L962[10:56:26] <MajGenRelativity> Um what

L963[10:56:33] <MajGenRelativity> I don't have enough yellorium to fuel it?????

L964[11:02:11] <MajGenRelativity> I

L965[11:02:17] <MajGenRelativity> Don't know what to do

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L967[11:04:59] <MajGenRelativity> Maximum Laser Foci

L968[11:07:03] <Inari> no really, i worked a while to make this thing and get it running and no it just disappeared wtf

L969[11:07:53] <MajGenRelativity> Inari, I feel for you

L970[11:07:59] <MajGenRelativity> I've had drones fly away from me

L971[11:08:35] <Vexatos> %seen Sangar

L972[11:08:36] <MichiBot> Vexatos: Sangar was last seen 1d 2h 51m 37s ago.

L973[11:08:38] <Vexatos> damnit

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L975[11:12:06] <Vexatos> Hmm

L976[11:12:31] <Vexatos> I guess I'll have to make the SSD use a bit of energy

L977[11:15:51] <Inari> welll

L978[11:15:56] <Inari> so much for robots *kicks buildcraft*

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L980[11:19:38] <Inari> sooo what to use instead for sugarcane farming

L981[11:19:41] <Inari> and lumberjacking

L982[11:21:31] <MajGenRelativity> BLIZZES VERSUS BLAZES

L983[11:21:33] <MajGenRelativity> GOOOOOOOOO

L984[11:21:52] <MajGenRelativity> Wat

L985[11:21:57] <MajGenRelativity> wat is a conflagration from special mobs?

L986[11:22:43] <Sangar> o/

L987[11:22:57] <MajGenRelativity> Hi Snagar

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L989[11:25:51] <clever> MajGenRelativity: a big reactor doesnt need to be filled to work

L990[11:25:59] <MajGenRelativity> clever, I am aware

L991[11:26:04] <clever> MajGenRelativity: a huge reactor can still run on 1 ingot

L992[11:26:06] <MajGenRelativity> However, I wanted to test it

L993[11:26:22] <MajGenRelativity> clever, it makes me feel insecure about my wealth if I can't fill it XD

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L995[11:30:40] <tim4242> Sangar, is there a reason why the player list in the "pet" renderer uses player names instead on UUIDs?

L996[11:30:55] <Sangar> tim4242, it's old code

L997[11:31:03] <Sangar> and i cba to rewrite it :P

L998[11:31:15] <tim4242> Then I'll do it

L999[11:31:24] <Sangar> cool

L1000[11:31:39] <tim4242> The setup is just a little bit slow

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L1002[11:32:19] <Sangar> you mean gradle? :P

L1003[11:32:27] <tim4242> yea

L1004[11:32:38] <Sangar> welcome to too many dependencies >_>

L1005[11:33:10] <Sangar> one day i'll get around to testing that script someone wrote and mirroring the deps onto my maven... hopefully that'll speed it up, if it doesn't have to query 20 or so servers

L1006[11:33:50] <clever> ive been working on getting gradle deps handled under nixos

L1007[11:33:59] <clever> the nix build system is meant to run the entire compile without network access

L1008[11:34:24] <Sangar> well after you have it once, you can run it with --offline

L1009[11:34:28] <Sangar> but the first time is still bloody slow

L1010[11:34:38] <clever> nix also deletes the build dir between runs

L1011[11:34:41] <Sangar> oh

L1012[11:34:43] <Sangar> :3

L1013[11:34:48] <Sangar> even the caches?

L1014[11:34:50] <clever> so there is no cache

L1015[11:35:01] <clever> yeah, the .gradle doesnt persist

L1016[11:35:10] <Sangar> fun

L1017[11:35:41] <tim4242> Thats why I keep my dep count low normally

L1018[11:37:37] <Vexatos> SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

L1019[11:37:38] <Vexatos> damnit

L1020[11:37:39] <Sangar> normally, absolutely. oc isn't quite normal tho :P (in that it gains comparatively more usefulness from integration with other mods than other mods might)

L1021[11:37:44] <Sangar> ohey vex

L1022[11:38:05] <clever> and even just the deps for forgegradle took a few hours to fully track down

L1023[11:38:20] <Vexatos> Sangar, too many news

L1024[11:38:26] <Sangar> hah

L1025[11:38:29] <Vexatos> a) Kodos proposed a new layout for the light board

L1026[11:38:34] <Vexatos> Kodos, please link the thing again ;_;

L1027[11:39:00] <Vexatos> b) Do you have some kind of base texture for mountable items?

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L1029[11:39:08] <Vexatos> c) No mountable is working. At all.

L1030[11:39:34] <Vexatos> The constructor of the environment is getting called and all that. I just can't access it :|

L1031[11:39:40] <Vexatos> http://git.io/vuVCJ please tell me what's wrong ;_;

L1032[11:40:42] <Sangar> define "you can't access it"?

L1033[11:41:11] <Vexatos> install server in rack

L1034[11:41:17] <Vexatos> install light board in rack

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L1036[11:41:26] <Vexatos> click magic wire GUI thingers so both are on the same line

L1037[11:41:30] <Vexatos> run "components"

L1038[11:41:36] <Vexatos> no "light_board"

L1039[11:41:46] <Vexatos> but the "disk_drive" one properly shows up :|

L1040[11:41:52] <Inari> "can't see"

L1041[11:42:01] <Vexatos> yup

L1042[11:42:15] <Vexatos> but I can put it in, the debugger tells me the Environment is getting created

L1043[11:42:16] <Vexatos> soooo

L1044[11:42:54] <scj643> Anyone good with regex

L1045[11:43:21] <Inari> just ask the q

L1046[11:43:22] <Inari> ;-,

L1047[11:43:44] <scj643> I need an expression that matches everything in-between -- including the dashes

L1048[11:43:47] <scj643> http://scj643.theender.net/s/2016-01-07_12-35-33.txt

L1049[11:43:48] <Sangar> Vexatos, breakpoint into update, see what node's network looks like?

L1050[11:43:53] <Vexatos> Sangar, good idea

L1051[11:43:58] <Vexatos> also regarding a) http://www.piskelapp.com/p/agxzfnBpc2tlbC1hcHByEwsSBlBpc2tlbBiAgIDo5oDWCAw/view

L1052[11:45:11] <Sangar> 2blur4me

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L1054[11:46:24] <Sangar> k

L1055[11:46:30] <Sangar> Vexatos, explain

L1056[11:46:47] <Vexatos> Sangar, explain?

L1057[11:46:55] <Sangar> waila

L1058[11:47:08] <Vexatos> Kodos' suggested configurations for the light board

L1059[11:47:16] <Vexatos> since he hates the current one for some reason

L1060[11:47:39] <Sangar> what's what

L1061[11:51:26] <Vexatos> just another 4 suggestions

L1062[11:51:33] <Vexatos> current layout is http://gfycat.com/NippyWastefulGarpike

L1063[11:51:43] <Vexatos> (3rd row)

L1064[11:53:53] <Sangar> oh, the *white* is the lights?

L1065[11:54:01] <Sangar> the colors are just... random? >_>

L1066[11:54:22] <Vexatos> yea

L1067[11:55:13] <Vexatos> Meh, I just applied my amazing Sangar-texture-botching skills

L1068[11:55:18] <Sangar> first one of those i'd say

L1069[11:55:20] <Vexatos> Aaand I have two new item textures \:D/

L1070[11:55:28] <Vexatos> Sangar, yea indeed

L1071[11:55:40] <Vexatos> Kodos doesn't like the fact that they go so far into the corners

L1072[11:55:56] <Vexatos> but with that configuration it'll be four lights again

L1073[11:56:00] <Vexatos> So I'm not sure

L1074[11:56:01] <Sangar> eh, i guess. upside is it's symmetrical :X

L1075[11:56:11] <Vexatos> this one is symmetrical too :P

L1076[11:56:21] <Vexatos> The other one would just require a little less Maths to render >_>

L1077[11:56:29] <Sangar> uniformly distributed then?

L1078[11:56:33] <Sangar> you know what i mean :P

L1079[12:00:38] <tim4242> Finally finished after 47 mins and 51.159 secs :P

L1080[12:02:05] <Vexatos> Sangar, connectors is empty, data only contains the own board

L1081[12:02:06] <Vexatos> :|

L1082[12:02:58] <Vexatos> tim4242, please don't change anything in Pet Renderer >_>

L1083[12:03:09] <Vexatos> I don't want to update my hacks :|

L1084[12:03:18] <Sangar> hue hue

L1085[12:03:50] <Vexatos> Sangar, that event priority abuse though

L1086[12:04:02] <Vexatos> soooo yea

L1087[12:04:19] <Vexatos> they are all connected to the "top" line

L1088[12:04:24] <Vexatos> and the network is empty :<

L1089[12:04:39] <tim4242> I would change stuff in there if gradle would be so nice to create an eclipse project

L1090[12:04:59] <Sangar> nah, use idea :P

L1091[12:05:13] <tim4242> but I don't want to buy it

L1092[12:05:23] <Sangar> free community edition?

L1093[12:05:38] <tim4242> There is one?! How do I not know about this!

L1094[12:05:43] <Sangar> yeah

L1095[12:05:54] <Vexatos> tim4242, don't bother

L1096[12:05:58] <Vexatos> it's fine the way it is, I swear

L1097[12:05:59] <Sangar> and it has all you'd need :P

L1098[12:06:15] <Vexatos> sooo Sangar y it no connect

L1099[12:06:52] <Sangar> i have ulti thanks to their "opensource project? here have an ulti license!" policy, but i actually don't use anything that's not in the free one, too, i don't think :X

L1100[12:06:56] <Sangar> Vexatos, idk

L1101[12:07:40] <Vexatos> It must be something on your side

L1102[12:07:49] <Vexatos> because createEnvironment is getting called

L1103[12:07:51] <Vexatos> the thing exists

L1104[12:07:53] <Sangar> :P

L1105[12:07:54] <Vexatos> and update() is called

L1106[12:08:00] <Sangar> it must be, because all my stuff works, right

L1107[12:08:01] <Vexatos> it's just that the networks aren't being connected

L1108[12:08:04] <tim4242> Vaxatos, it's just that I want to get involved with development and want to start somewhere, and this is a really easy one

L1109[12:08:26] <Vexatos> tim4242, it's not because now you're way more prone to typos >_>

L1110[12:08:33] <Vexatos> don't use UUIDs for stuff like this

L1111[12:08:36] <Vexatos> it's stupid

L1112[12:09:13] <Sangar> why is it stupid to have a more reliable check?

L1113[12:09:27] <Sangar> that won't become invalidated whenever someone changes their name?

L1114[12:09:57] <Sangar> oh right, because *maybe* you'll have to adjust some code on your end :P

L1115[12:10:02] <Vexatos> nono

L1116[12:10:04] <Vexatos> I mean

L1117[12:10:15] <tim4242> And it's really easy to get that information from their API, you could automate if you wanted to

L1118[12:10:39] <Vexatos> why would you ever change your name? http://git.io/vuilA

L1119[12:10:40] <scj643> In my world I need to get a ti nspire cx cas for he SATs since I'm most comfortable with it

L1120[12:10:45] <MajGenRelativity> Anyone want to write a program for me that allows a robot to produce loads of Reinforced Stone?

L1121[12:11:20] <Vexatos> MajGenRelativity, DIY

L1122[12:11:31] <MajGenRelativity> I shall

L1123[12:11:37] <Vexatos> sooooo Sangar any idea why all your mountables are being added to networks but mine aren't? >_>

L1124[12:11:39] <MajGenRelativity> after I eat food

L1125[12:11:51] <Vexatos> inb4 you check for internal class instead of API class or something

L1126[12:12:20] <Sangar> possible there's a wrong import somewhere :P

L1127[12:13:18] <Sangar> Vexatos, can you set breakpoints in oc code?

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L1129[12:13:43] zsh sets mode: +v on calclavia

L1130[12:13:52] <Vexatos> I can

L1131[12:14:02] <Vexatos> But I'm off to watch Monty Python D:

L1132[12:14:13] <Sangar> well

L1133[12:14:17] <Sangar> when you're back, set one here http://git.io/vui4G

L1134[12:14:19] <Vexatos> Do you want a build to test it? :p

L1135[12:14:24] <Sangar> and see what it does when you change connections

L1136[12:14:29] <Vexatos> ok

L1137[12:14:41] <Sangar> well, if you can't figure it out with that, fine :P

L1138[12:14:47] <Sangar> but not today

L1139[12:14:48] <scj643> Getting a $140 calculator is going to be hard

L1140[12:15:03] <Vexatos> I have a €300 one

L1141[12:15:09] <Vexatos> and a €120 one

L1142[12:15:14] <Vexatos> and a €80 one

L1143[12:15:20] <Vexatos> and all of them are too good for university

L1144[12:15:25] <Vexatos> so I'll have to get another one

L1145[12:16:16] <scj643> I want the nspire cx cas for the SATs I've been using the ios app

L1146[12:16:38] <scj643> I got an 89 titanium right bow

L1147[12:16:42] <scj643> *now

L1148[12:19:28] <Elizabeth> :/ main pc is potentially dead

L1149[12:19:47] <scj643> Dang

L1150[12:20:28] <scj643> I also got a potential broken LCD ti 83+ se

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L1152[12:25:07] <tim4242> Great did the check once, now IntelliJ needs to check it again :(

L1153[12:27:13] <scj643> I like jetbrains IDEs

L1154[12:27:23] <scj643> And sublime for quick jobs

L1155[12:29:24] <tim4242> I personally use Atom for quick jobs

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L1158[12:34:27] <scj643> Atom is heavy

L1159[12:35:04] <tim4242> I know but it still runs good, so I don't really care.

L1160[12:36:57] <gamax92> beep beep

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L1163[12:37:36] <vifino> boop boop

L1164[12:37:44] <MajGenRelativity> bwap bwap

L1165[12:37:57] <scj643> I only got a dual core Pentium B960 At 2.2 GHz

L1166[12:38:06] <scj643> 4 gb ddr3 ran

L1167[12:38:09] <gamax92> Sucks to be you

L1168[12:38:12] <scj643> On a laptop

L1169[12:38:14] * MajGenRelativity echoes gamax92

L1170[12:38:20] <scj643> Want to support me get a new obe

L1171[12:38:32] <Ivoah> scj643: O.o

L1172[12:38:33] <MajGenRelativity> want to support me getting a better server?

L1173[12:38:45] <scj643> http://paypal.me/scj643

L1174[12:38:58]

<MajGenRelativity> (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

L1175[12:39:06] <MajGenRelativity> patreon.com/MajGenR

L1176[12:39:23] <gamax92> I be playin da Subpar Mareo Sunshit on 1080p with full anti aliasing

L1177[12:39:29] <MajGenRelativity> Only $2 a month gets me a new headset!

L1178[12:39:37] <Inari> is begging allowed here now?

L1179[12:39:47] <MajGenRelativity> Inari, scj started it

L1180[12:39:49] <gamax92> WITH the 60fps patch, and at full 60fps

L1181[12:40:19] * MajGenRelativity realizes that his statement sounded extremely childish

L1182[12:40:30] * MajGenRelativity shrugs because he can't edit it

L1183[12:40:45] <vifino> Inari: It isn't, really, afaik.

L1184[12:40:46]

<MajGenRelativity> ┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

L1185[12:41:09] <scj643> I would say just don't spam it

L1186[12:41:14] * Inari pokes Kodos and runs

L1187[12:41:19] <MajGenRelativity> NOOOOOOOOOOO

L1188[12:41:21] <MajGenRelativity> NOT KODOS!

L1189[12:41:27] <MajGenRelativity> INARI, WHY?!

L1190[12:41:31] <vifino> scj643: What you say doesn't matter.

L1191[12:41:35] <Inari> he told me to :s

L1192[12:42:44] <MajGenRelativity> :(

L1193[12:44:56] <Elizabeth> scj643, before you get a new laptop, how about paying for your vps?

L1194[12:45:07] <Michiyo> Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

L1195[12:45:14] <vifino> SHOTS FIRED

L1196[12:45:16] <vifino> SHOTS FIRED

L1197[12:45:31] <MajGenRelativity> vps?

L1198[12:45:43] <Alissa> Virtual private server

L1199[12:45:44] <Inari> virtual protection software

L1200[12:45:50] <gamax92> Condoms

L1201[12:46:04] <Michiyo> ^

L1202[12:46:08] <Inari> ^^

L1203[12:46:11] <vifino> ^^^

L1204[12:46:15] <Michiyo> ^^^^

L1205[12:46:22] <Inari> ^^^^^

L1206[12:46:24] <vifino> ^^^^^^

L1207[12:46:26] <Michiyo> v

L1208[12:46:29] <Michiyo> ^^^^^^^^

L1209[12:46:31] <Inari> \->

L1210[12:46:34] <vifino> /

L1211[12:46:37] <Michiyo> \

L1212[12:46:41] <vifino> \

L1213[12:46:51] <vifino> \

L1214[12:46:54] <Inari> (>*-*)>

L1215[12:46:55] <Elizabeth> or you can help me pay for new computer hardware since mine has just died

L1216[12:47:05] <Elizabeth> :P

L1217[12:47:14] <Michiyo> damn... work... :/ afk

L1218[12:47:17] <scj643> Elizabeth: I will

L1219[12:47:21] <Michiyo> also, sucks Elizabeth :(

L1220[12:47:23] <Michiyo> I feel ya

L1221[12:47:30] <Inari> lewd

L1222[12:47:31] <scj643> I only have $0.02 on paypal

L1223[12:47:39] <scj643> And no cash

L1224[12:47:56] <scj643> So yeah I have reasons for tbat

L1225[12:49:06] <Elizabeth> which i said i am fine with, just don't go buying yourself stuff when you still have a bit of a dept to pay

L1226[12:49:12] <Elizabeth> *debt

L1227[12:49:27] <scj643> I wouldn't think of it

L1228[12:49:36] <vifino> You did. A few minutes ago.

L1229[12:49:39] <Michiyo> Don't make me feel you too Inari ;)

L1230[12:49:48] <Inari> :s

L1231[12:49:52] <scj643> I'm making a patron for myself

L1232[12:50:18] <Inari> Elizabeth: how much does a vps cost ;o

L1233[12:50:36] <Michiyo> I have a patreon... That no one has used :(

L1234[12:50:37] <malcom2073> $15 a year for a simple one

L1235[12:50:57] <Michiyo> fak moar work...

L1236[12:50:59] <Inari> you kinda need a fanclubf or patreon to work

L1237[12:51:10] <vifino> s/clubf/base/

L1238[12:51:11] <MichiBot> <Inari> you kinda need a fanbase or patreon to work

L1239[12:51:11] <Inari> Michiyo: are you in a call center or wat

L1240[12:51:24] <Inari> s/base/mass f

L1241[12:51:24] <MichiBot> <Inari> you kinda need a fanmass f or patreon to work

L1242[12:51:39] <Elizabeth> Inari, i haven't axtually worked out a fixed pricing yet, will probably do like 5-10$ a month if i ever did it formally

L1243[12:51:59] <Elizabeth> also Michiyo, i would have donated but my money now has to go to computer gear

L1244[12:51:59] <Inari> doesnts ound like a big debt

L1245[12:52:00] <Inari> xD

L1246[12:52:08] <Elizabeth> Inari, he's had it a while

L1247[12:52:24] <Inari> 10 yrs?

L1248[12:52:24] <vifino> A few people donated me once.

L1249[12:52:32] <Inari> vifino: donated you?

L1250[12:52:33] <Inari> lewd

L1251[12:52:38] <vifino> ._.

L1252[12:52:42] <Elizabeth> Inari, I haven't even had Athar that long

L1253[12:52:43] <scj643> I don't have a source of income

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L1255[12:53:02] <Inari> monthly payments without source of income kinda dont work so well

L1256[12:53:05] <Elizabeth> also what's annoying is that my pc was working fine, i rebooted into windows then halfway through that it just went kaput

L1257[12:53:08] <vifino> Inari: How is that lewd? ._.

L1258[12:53:22] <Inari> vifino: why would they donate you?

L1259[12:53:26] <Elizabeth> Inari, which is why i'm not pressurizing him into doing it

L1260[12:53:52] <Inari> people usually donate money, or blood, or in some cases sperm, not guys

L1261[12:54:05] <vifino> Inari: Because http://vifino.de/donateme.html and because they like me.

L1262[12:54:45] <vifino> that page needs to be updated, too

L1263[12:54:47] <vifino> oh well

L1264[12:55:02] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_OkK0x => to donate vifino

L1265[12:55:02] <Inari> wat

L1266[12:55:03] <Inari> :P

L1267[12:55:40] <malcom2073> vifino: Very 90's page, I like it :P

L1268[12:56:06] <vifino> malcom2073: It's not 90's, you darn jQuery somejs-adoring hipster! It's a bloody website!

L1269[12:56:34] <Inari> Adrian PIstol, is that like your stage name or real name Oo

L1270[12:56:48] <vifino> Inari: Real name.

L1271[12:56:57] <malcom2073> vifino: There will always be some people that prefer Model-A cars over anything else

L1272[12:57:05] <vifino> malcom2073: If you don't get the reference, motherfuckingwebsite.com

L1273[12:57:10] <Inari> that an odd name haha

L1274[12:57:17] <vifino> Inari: It's *my* name :<

L1275[12:57:35] <Michiyo> Inari no I work at RadioShack

L1276[12:57:36] <malcom2073> vifino: I don't get that reference, because I'm not into trendy memes and stuff

L1277[12:57:43] <Michiyo> Also, I have like 30k downloads across all of my mods

L1278[12:57:53] <vifino> malcom2073: Ah, too bad.

L1279[12:57:54] <Michiyo> it's not a lot.. but it's more than 0...

L1280[12:58:26] <vifino> Inari: Also, Elizabeth likes it, so that works for me. '.'

L1281[12:58:34] <Inari> lewd :3

L1282[12:58:47] <vifino> Very lewd.

L1283[12:58:52] * Inari donates vifino to Elizabeth

L1284[12:58:58] <vifino> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

L1285[12:59:13] <scj643> Patron isn't for ne

L1286[12:59:23] <Elizabeth> :D

L1287[12:59:26] <scj643> I don't create content because I cant

L1288[12:59:30] <Michiyo> heading home for lunch

L1289[12:59:40] <scj643> Don't have the hardware to make YouTube videos

L1290[12:59:41] <gamax92> scj643: sure you can

L1291[12:59:54] <scj643> gamax92: how

L1292[13:00:06] <gamax92> say that you'll draw a scribble of how you're doing every so often with the money you earned

L1293[13:02:02] <vifino> Inari: Seriously though, what do you have against my name? :<

L1294[13:02:05] <scj643> Explain my situation will be best

L1295[13:02:25] <Inari> http://akari.in/pinky_hyITh ?

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L1297[13:07:22] <Elizabeth> k, after reseating my computer's CPU, it still doesn't boot up

L1298[13:08:24] <malcom2073> Elizabeth: any warning beeps?

L1299[13:08:40] <vifino> Inari: itried.png https://puu.sh/mn7GG.png

L1300[13:08:52] <vifino> touchpad drawing skillz op

L1301[13:09:05] <malcom2073> vifino: I'll give you a million internet points for that signed drawing!

L1302[13:09:12] <vifino> :P

L1303[13:09:23] <Elizabeth> yet if i unplug the CPU 8-pin power connector the motherboard will come into life (albiet not very lifelike because the cpu has no power)

L1304[13:09:45] <Elizabeth> malcom2073, no warning beeps though i have just realised i didn't have the speaker connected!

L1305[13:09:48] <Elizabeth> lemme go find that

L1306[13:13:00] <vifino> Inari: Whaaat do you not like about my naaaaame?

L1307[13:13:32] <vifino> I mean, not everyone has a point n' shooty in their name.

L1308[13:14:01] * vifino flips Inari

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L1310[13:19:35] <Inari> vifino: dunno, just seems odd, first name sounds more germany, last name more enlgish-y, odd meaning to lastname

L1311[13:19:35] <Inari> etc

L1312[13:19:36] <Inari> :P

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L1314[13:20:25] <vifino> Inari: ruuude.

L1315[13:20:58] <Inari> lol

L1316[13:21:51] <Inari> your pic looksl ike its drawn on a tablet

L1317[13:22:10] <vifino> It's drawn on a touchpad, I draw way better on an actual tablet.

L1318[13:22:11] <vifino> .-.

L1319[13:22:20] <Inari> :P

L1320[13:22:31] <Inari> just looked pressure senstiive on the lines

L1321[13:22:42] <vifino> Inari: Speed sensitive.

L1322[13:22:52] <vifino> If I move the cursor faster, it draws differently.

L1323[13:24:18] <scj643> https://www.patreon.com/user?u=2710929&ty=h

L1324[13:24:24] <scj643> Got it set up

L1325[13:24:52] <vifino> scj643: ...

L1326[13:24:56] <vifino> That's not how this works.

L1327[13:24:59] <Elizabeth> damn, can't find my pc speaker but even when using an LED to see when it beeps it gives nothing

L1328[13:25:11] <vifino> You don't need $150 a month to buy a darn calculator.

L1329[13:25:21] <vifino> You don't buy it every month. .-.

L1330[13:25:57] * Elizabeth sighs at the 'next goal'

L1331[13:25:57] <scj643> Well I just realized that one

L1332[13:26:12] <Mimiru> %calc 1595 + 17513 + 7896 + 16549 + 41438

L1333[13:26:14] <MichiBot> Mimiru: 84,991

L1334[13:26:15] * Elizabeth goes to ponder with VMs on athar

L1335[13:26:26] <Mimiru> Ahh, that's my total mod downloads across all of my mods.

L1336[13:26:36] <gamax92> celebrate when you get 100,000

L1337[13:26:39] <scj643> Changed my goals

L1338[13:26:46] <Mimiru> Not counting non curseforge downloads for LanteaCraft

L1339[13:27:02] <scj643> $25 a month to get a new calc

L1340[13:27:14] <scj643> And $50 for new computer parts

L1341[13:27:25] <Mimiru> OFM, OpenLights, OpenSecurity, OpenPrinter, LanteaCraft, in the order I added them there

L1342[13:27:43] * Elizabeth sets a certain vps to be lower on the process priority list

L1343[13:30:00] <Mimiru> got a $.50 raise

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L1347[13:30:09] <Mimiru> cause minimum wage went up

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L1359[13:31:44] <Inari> > no money

L1360[13:31:44] <Inari> >got ipad

L1361[13:31:44] <Elizabeth> yep, motherboard/cpu is fucked

L1362[13:31:44] <Inari> :<

L1363[13:31:44] <scj643> I got it with a grant :(

L1364[13:31:44] <scj643> That's how

L1365[13:31:44] <Elizabeth> i could test the cpu in another box but the only other Sandy/Ivy bridge box i know of is my dad's machine and i don't wanna fuck that up as well

L1366[13:31:44] * Elizabeth sighs

L1367[13:31:44] <scj643> Elizabeth with my $10 goal a good chunk of that would go to you

L1368[13:31:44] <Elizabeth> cool

L1369[13:31:44] <Inari> MajGenRelativity: those patreon pledges are terrible btw x.x

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L1372[13:31:44] <Elizabeth> ffs esper

L1373[13:31:44] <MajGenRelativity> Inari, what?

L1374[13:31:44] <MajGenRelativity> How so?

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L1376[13:31:44] <MajGenRelativity> I'm taking advice on making stuff better

L1377[13:31:44] <Inari> $3/monht "I'll give you a manyullyn rapier on my server" $10/month "I'll give you a full suit of draconic armor on my server"

L1378[13:31:44] <Inari> how is that not terrible

L1379[13:31:44] <Inari> :P

L1380[13:31:44] <scj643> You can't do that

L1381[13:31:44] <scj643> Violates MC terms of service

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L1385[13:31:48] <Elizabeth> wow

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L1387[13:32:35] <Mimiru> Alas, back to the place of my employment

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L1396[13:41:50] <vifino> Inari: I made that joke on ts with Elizabeth too :P

L1397[13:42:14] <Elizabeth> my response was lewd

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L1399[13:42:41] <gamax92> yal are lewd

L1400[13:42:50] <vifino> God damn it Elizabeth, you don't need to make the fantasies of #oc more intense :P

L1401[13:43:02] <Elizabeth> but i do!

L1402[13:43:10] <Inari> lol

L1403[13:43:29] <vifino> Elizabeth + vifino #confirmed

L1404[13:43:38] <Inari> thats like

L1405[13:43:40] <Inari> nothing new

L1406[13:43:46] <Elizabeth> ^

L1407[13:43:48] <vifino> Inari: thats the joke!

L1408[13:43:57] <Inari> your mom is the joke :<

L1409[13:44:02] <vifino> :v

L1410[13:44:09] <Skye> Elizabeth x vifino

L1411[13:44:18] <Inari> Skye x Marmite

L1412[13:44:19] <vifino> Skye: Very much so. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

L1413[13:44:37] <Inari> Skye: now the quesiton though

L1414[13:44:40] <Inari> do you love or hate marmite

L1415[13:44:48] * Skye returns null

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L1417[13:44:53] <Inari> lol

L1418[13:45:07] <Skye> never tried it

L1419[13:45:09] * Inari throws NullPointerException

L1420[13:45:16] * Skye catches it

L1421[13:45:21] * Skye burps

L1422[13:45:23] <vifino> Null pointers, null pointers everywhere.

L1423[13:45:26] * Elizabeth ponts Inari

L1424[13:45:29] <Elizabeth> *points

L1425[13:45:33] <Inari> ;o

L1426[13:45:41] <Elizabeth> my spelling engine is throwing null pointers ¬)¬

L1427[13:45:44] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OepMwUZCQZc

L1428[13:45:45] <MichiBot> Inari: 130 Year Old Olives | Ashens | length: 6m | Likes: 15493 Dislikes: 246 Views: 498917 | by ashens

L1429[13:46:02] * vifino fixes Elizabeth's code

L1430[13:46:05] <vifino> *wink wink*

L1431[13:46:29] <Inari> oh thats why shes so lewd

L1432[13:46:34] <Inari> vifino "fixed" her code often

L1433[13:46:34] <Inari> :P

L1434[13:46:45] <vifino> I did, very much so. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

L1435[13:47:28] <vifino> To be fair, just minor ajustements, Elizabeth is pretty fucking perfect before that anyhow.

L1436[13:48:05] * Elizabeth wishes she could alter her genetic code :/

L1437[13:52:17] <clever> can a tier 2 redstone card access all of the channels in an enderio insulated redstone conduit?

L1438[13:55:10] <S3> Whee

L1439[13:55:16] <MajGenRelativity> clever, I think so

L1440[13:55:20] <MajGenRelativity> Don't take my word for it

L1441[13:55:28] <MajGenRelativity> EYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IT'S S3

L1442[13:55:36] <clever> MajGenRelativity: checking in creative now

L1443[13:58:36] <Vexatos> Sangar, you here?

L1444[14:01:49] <MajGenRelativity> You have reached the answering machine for Snagar

L1445[14:01:54] <MajGenRelativity> Please leave a message after the beep

L1446[14:02:14] <clever> MajGenRelativity: doesnt appear to be working

L1447[14:02:43] <MajGenRelativity> clever, huh

L1448[14:02:44] * Sangar runs away

L1449[14:02:53] <MajGenRelativity> I thought the T2 Redstone Card worked with stuff like that

L1450[14:03:02] <clever> MajGenRelativity: let me check all the sides

L1451[14:03:06] <gamax92> Sangar: you cannot run away from this battle.

L1452[14:03:17] * Sangar runs more

L1453[14:03:28] <gamax92> Sangar: The Escape button is disabled

L1454[14:03:36] * Sangar runs to the end of time

L1455[14:03:38] <clever> MajGenRelativity: yep, sides 0 thru 5 all spit out an array full of 0's

L1456[14:04:04] <clever> but i'm feeding in a conduit with ~6 different test signals

L1457[14:04:15] <MajGenRelativity> huh

L1458[14:04:20] <MajGenRelativity> Snagar

L1459[14:04:24] <MajGenRelativity> Why ur card no work

L1460[14:04:32] <clever> let me upload

L1461[14:05:06] <clever> MajGenRelativity: http://imgur.com/a/qlHWV

L1462[14:05:39] <Vexatos> Sangar, here is some wat for you

L1463[14:05:43] <Vexatos> set a breakpoint where you want

L1464[14:05:45] <Vexatos> all fine

L1465[14:05:50] <Vexatos> network has 9 nodes in it

L1466[14:05:55] <Vexatos> like it should

L1467[14:05:58] <Sangar> MajGenRelativity, clever, eio doesn't have an api, so all redstone from conduits is treated just as normal redstone

L1468[14:06:07] <MajGenRelativity> Oh

L1469[14:06:08] <Vexatos> poked all the way through to my env

L1470[14:06:12] <Vexatos> checked that env's node

L1471[14:06:12] <clever> Sangar: ah

L1472[14:06:19] <Vexatos> is in the very same network it's just been assigned

L1473[14:06:22] <Vexatos> for obvious reasons

L1474[14:06:23] <clever> Sangar: so i'll have to keep wrapping the whole computer in conduit and use sides

L1475[14:06:32] <Vexatos> then, next breakpoint, this environment's update()

L1476[14:06:34] <Vexatos> all gone

L1477[14:06:44] <Vexatos> it's alone in its own network

L1478[14:06:46] <Sangar> clever, or use other means of bundled redstone, yeah :P

L1479[14:06:56] <Sangar> Vexatos, cool

L1480[14:06:59] <clever> Sangar: which ones are supported?

L1481[14:07:07] <Vexatos> This is so wat

L1482[14:07:10] <Sangar> Vexatos, add breakpoint to your ondisconnect, see where it's coming from

L1483[14:07:16] <Vexatos> k

L1484[14:07:32] <Sangar> clever, redlogic, project red, mfr, bluepower

L1485[14:07:53] <Vexatos> Sangar, not being called

L1486[14:07:55] <Vexatos> .-.

L1487[14:08:16] <clever> ah, mfr should do to atleast move the eio junction to another area

L1488[14:08:18] <Sangar> wat

L1489[14:08:22] <Vexatos> not even when removing the plug (obviously since it's not in the network)

L1490[14:08:26] <Vexatos> onConnect is getting called though

L1491[14:08:29] <clever> its a bit cramped and the eio conduits help a lot

L1492[14:08:30] <Vexatos> as soon as I plug it in

L1493[14:08:37] <Sangar> Vexatos, dafuq u doin o.O

L1494[14:09:39] <Vexatos> onConnect being called from onRackMountableMapping

L1495[14:09:41] <Vexatos> no idea what that does

L1496[14:09:55] <Vexatos> oh, probably the thing that receives the GUI click

L1497[14:09:57] <Vexatos> on the server side

L1498[14:10:18] <Vexatos> calling Rack.connect

L1499[14:10:26] <Sangar> yeah

L1500[14:11:15] <Vexatos> onConnect called about 9 times

L1501[14:11:32] <Vexatos> but onDisconnect not being called again

L1502[14:11:35] <Vexatos> when unplugging

L1503[14:11:43] <Sangar> uhhh

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L1505[14:13:22] <Vexatos> oh

L1506[14:13:23] <Vexatos> w

L1507[14:13:26] <Vexatos> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

L1508[14:13:28] <Vexatos> uhm

L1509[14:13:29] <Vexatos> w

L1510[14:13:32] <Vexatos> a

L1511[14:13:35] <Vexatos> ehm

L1512[14:13:42] <Vexatos> node = null

L1513[14:13:45] <Vexatos> ....

L1514[14:13:46] <MajGenRelativity> well

L1515[14:13:47] <Vexatos> w@t

L1516[14:13:51] <MajGenRelativity> Vexatos, calm down

L1517[14:14:12] <Vexatos> Sangar, so the network is fine during the next update()

L1518[14:14:14] <Vexatos> but after that

L1519[14:14:17] <Vexatos> my node is null

L1520[14:14:18] <Vexatos> ....

L1521[14:17:18] <Vexatos> hmmm

L1522[14:17:20] <Vexatos> hold on

L1523[14:19:52] <Inari> Vex going all apeshit

L1524[14:20:00] <Vexatos> Yea

L1525[14:20:04] <Vexatos> This is really, really weird

L1526[14:22:52] <Vexatos> wait wat

L1527[14:23:08] <Vexatos> wait WAT

L1528[14:23:11] <Vexatos> Sangar, it works now

L1529[14:23:24] <Sangar> what did you change? :P

L1530[14:23:49] <Vexatos> Nothing

L1531[14:23:50] <Vexatos> well

L1532[14:24:12] <Vexatos> I changed the withComponent("server_destruct") to withComponent("server_destruct", Visibility.Network)

L1533[14:24:14] <Vexatos> on the SSD

L1534[14:24:19] <Vexatos> and suddenly the light board works too

L1535[14:24:23] <Vexatos> so that can't be it :P

L1536[14:24:57] <Sangar> <_>

L1537[14:25:28] <Skye> why do you have self destruct things

L1538[14:25:32] <Vexatos> I just Ctrl+Z to see what I changed

L1539[14:25:33] <MajGenRelativity> BECAUSE

L1540[14:25:36] <Vexatos> and it was really just this line

L1541[14:25:40] <MajGenRelativity> Self-Destruct=COOL

L1542[14:25:56] <MajGenRelativity> I wonder if I can put a self-destruct upgrade on a drone..

L1543[14:26:01] <MajGenRelativity> Flying EXPLODING bees

L1544[14:26:02] <Inari> Vexatos: so you're bad at coding?

L1545[14:26:39] <Sangar> but it defaults to the reachability... so that's... a no-nop...

L1546[14:26:47] <Sangar> blame cached compiled classes being broken?

L1547[14:27:40] <Inari> *clears throat* paraphrasing vex: "If something other than what you're changing in the block/item changes, then you're bad at coding"

L1548[14:29:07] <MajGenRelativity> Then I'm pretty sure nobody is good at coding

L1549[14:29:10] <Vexatos> Inari, yup

L1550[14:29:23] <Vexatos> Sangar, I changed nothing at all

L1551[14:29:26] <Vexatos> that's the fun thing

L1552[14:29:41] <Inari> so

L1553[14:29:44] <Inari> what if you undo that line

L1554[14:29:46] <Inari> and recompile

L1555[14:30:06] <gamax92> then it'll break and not work ever again

L1556[14:30:12] <Inari> lol

L1557[14:31:56] <XDjackieXD> Sangar: mind building a dev version of oc for 1.8.9 using the latest forge version? (the current one crashes with latest forge because of some changed mappings and I can't build it myself as I always get a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: li/cil/repack/com/naef/jnlua/NativeSupport$Loader)

L1558[14:32:26] <XDjackieXD> (I'm trying to port OpenRadio from 1.7.10 to 1.8.9...)

L1559[14:33:40] <Sangar> can't you just bon it with the mappings you need?

L1560[14:33:49] <XDjackieXD> bon?

L1561[14:33:52] <Sangar> bon

L1562[14:33:55] <MajGenRelativity> bon-bon?

L1563[14:33:58] <MajGenRelativity> just bon-bon it

L1564[14:33:59] <Sangar> https://github.com/Parker8283/BON2/releases

L1565[14:34:20] <scj643> Anyone know how I could run a VM on a remote server

L1566[14:34:37] <scj643> That can have OS X as a guest

L1567[14:34:45] <Sangar> for the run/mods folder anyway, for the dependency, that's unmapped anyway and should be correctly mapped by forgegradle?

L1568[14:35:39] <tim4242> It would be easier to just use a text editor then setting up oc in idea

L1569[14:36:04] <XDjackieXD> When I run my dev env it crashes with this: http://pastebin.com/NHgbJbap

L1570[14:37:15] <XDjackieXD> and this "java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: field_151573_" looks like some mapping problem to me...

L1571[14:37:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, now tryChangeBuffer isn't working... and this might actually be an OC bug >_>

L1572[14:37:47] <Vexatos> Unless I misunderstand something, of course

L1573[14:37:49] <Sangar> tim4242, really? ./gradlew idea, open, say yes when it asks to import the gradle project, done

L1574[14:38:02] <Vexatos> In ComponentConnector, you do val newGlobalBuffer = globalBuffer + delta, right?

L1575[14:38:16] <Vexatos> oh wait

L1576[14:38:17] <Vexatos> no

L1577[14:38:31] <Vexatos> it's just that my boards needs an internal power capacity

L1578[14:38:34] <Vexatos> for it to work

L1579[14:38:38] <Vexatos> because globalBuffer is 0

L1580[14:38:47] <Vexatos> because the creative server has no buffer size

L1581[14:38:54] <Vexatos> it just provides infinite power

L1582[14:39:04] <Vexatos> so tryChangeNode returns false

L1583[14:39:05] <Sangar> XDjackieXD, `run/mods` so you do have it in there? then you need to use bon to deobf it

L1584[14:39:05] <Vexatos> always

L1585[14:39:18] <Vexatos> because newGlobalBuffer = globalBuffer + delta will always be negative

L1586[14:39:27] <Vexatos> Is this an oversight?

L1587[14:39:40] <Sangar> idk, is it?

L1588[14:39:49] <Vexatos> That tryChangeBuffer returns false if none of the connectors in the system have any buffer at all?

L1589[14:39:52] <XDjackieXD> Sangar: I thought that's what the -dev version is for? (a deobfuscated version) at least that is what it was in 1.7.10...

L1590[14:39:58] <Vexatos> I mean, it makes sense

L1591[14:40:01] <Vexatos> to fail in that case

L1592[14:40:05] <Sangar> Vexatos, sounds expected yeah

L1593[14:40:09] <Vexatos> but Then the creative server should not have no buffer

L1594[14:40:16] <Vexatos> since it provides infinite energy

L1595[14:40:51] <Vexatos> OH WAIT

L1596[14:40:54] <Vexatos> WHAT

L1597[14:40:55] <Vexatos> the bug is back

L1598[14:40:57] <Sangar> XDjackieXD, nah, sorry for that confusion :X -dev is just the dev branch/nonstable, -dev-dev is deobf >_> (and doesn't exist in 1.8*)

L1599[14:40:58] <gamax92> Sangar: you know what would be fantastic? an unstrip tool, where you could add external debugging information into a binary

L1600[14:40:58] <Vexatos> it's all alone again

L1601[14:41:28] <Vexatos> But I can access component.light_board

L1602[14:41:36] <XDjackieXD> Sangar: oh...

L1603[14:41:44] <Vexatos> it's just that the network itself in update() only contains the light board

L1604[14:41:45] <Sangar> gamax92, like pdb files or whatever they're called? :P

L1605[14:43:04] <tim4242> The bloody imports don't work

L1606[14:43:25] <scj643> Elizabeth: going to attempt to run OS X in my VM

L1607[14:43:38] <Elizabeth> good luck

L1608[14:43:54] <scj643> Any reason why getting packages is being slow

L1609[14:44:16] <v^> i have a Nvidia 5Ghz skylake GPU

L1610[14:44:22] <scj643> 100kb/S slow

L1611[14:44:26] <Elizabeth> lemme check athar

L1612[14:44:31] <Sangar> tim4242, after importing the gradle thing?

L1613[14:44:34] <tim4242> yea

L1614[14:44:37] <Sangar> huh

L1615[14:44:42] <Elizabeth> .load

L1616[14:44:42] <EnderBot2> CPU: 0.69 0.71 0.7 , RAM: 13.5G/31.3G (~43.0%), SWAP: 656.4M/88.2G (~0.7%)

L1617[14:44:43] <Vexatos> No

L1618[14:44:45] <Vexatos> Uhm

L1619[14:44:46] <Sangar> try running a ./gradlew build first

L1620[14:44:50] <v^> i have a 4tb GDDR5 hard drive

L1621[14:44:53] <Sangar> then refresh in the gradle tag

L1622[14:44:54] <Vexatos> So I gave the node some buffer now

L1623[14:44:55] <Sangar> *tab

L1624[14:44:58] <Vexatos> Like 2 OC

L1625[14:45:07] <Vexatos> and globalBuffer in node.tryChangeBuffer is still 0

L1626[14:45:25] <Sangar> well if it's not in the network again >_>

L1627[14:45:37] <Vexatos> But it's got its very own buffer!

L1628[14:45:45] <vifino> v^: Full of furry porn, yes.

L1629[14:45:45] <Vexatos> withConnector(2)

L1630[14:45:51] <Vexatos> how in the what why

L1631[14:46:01] <v^> vifino, obviously

L1632[14:46:44] <Sangar> 2 just means max

L1633[14:46:51] <scj643> Hope virtual box has a way of remotely forwarding usb ports

L1634[14:46:53] <Sangar> it'd still need to be filled by the creative server

L1635[14:47:41] <Elizabeth> scj643, mind installing speedtest-cli via apt-get and seeing what you get?

L1636[14:47:49] <scj643> Ok

L1637[14:47:51] <XDjackieXD> http://puu.sh/mneBP/f5fd9bd3a4.png can I just define this as working and leave it? xD

L1638[14:48:17] <scj643> These are to the apt-get sources

L1639[14:48:25] <scj643> Gb.archive.Ubuntu. com

L1640[14:48:53] <Skye> Sangar, how do you sandbox Lua in OC?

L1641[14:49:00] <Sangar> heavily

L1642[14:49:19] <nxsupert> Kon'nichiwa

L1643[14:49:35] <Vexatos> Sangar, yea, it appears it's not getting any power at all

L1644[14:49:53] <Skye> Sangar, Lua code or do you patch the actual Lua interpreter

L1645[14:51:27] <gamax92> Sangar: kinda

L1646[14:51:46] <gamax92> doesn't gcc do a different format for debugging, DWARF or something?

L1647[14:51:58] <Daiyousei> dwarf fortress

L1648[14:52:27] <v^> Skye, sangar made a lua extension that allows the state to be saved so they dont shut down when the server restarts, like CC

L1649[14:52:46] <v^> the sandboxing is done in both lua and java side

L1650[14:52:53] <gamax92> Daiyousei: what if, the f in dwarf stood for fortress

L1651[14:53:07] <Daiyousei> yes

L1652[14:53:12] <Daiyousei> DWARf Fortress

L1653[14:53:25] <Elizabeth> scj643, what speeds did you get from the speedtest-cli?

L1654[14:53:52] <Skye> v^, with Lua code, or in the lua library?

L1655[14:54:11] <scj643> Oh didn't get that yet

L1656[14:54:21] <scj643> Seems better now

L1657[14:54:36] <gamax92> v^: the persistence has nothing to do with the sandbox

L1658[14:54:56] <v^> kinda

L1659[14:55:00] <gamax92> Skye: OpenComputers has a heavy lua sandbox in it's machine.lua file

L1660[14:55:34] <gamax92> The Scala side also just removes some lua libraries that are useless entirely

L1661[14:55:38] <Elizabeth> scj643, please try getting it just to test, i'm not actually sure what the speed is like going from VM to outer internet

L1662[14:55:52] <Sangar> Skye, the sandboxing itself is all just lua

L1663[14:56:21] <Sangar> and yeah, some stuff gets removed in scala already, but that's being super-paranoid

L1664[14:56:43] <scj643> I will

L1665[14:56:46] <Sangar> (so in case the sandbox is broken there's still no way to access the file system e.g.)

L1666[14:56:48] <gamax92> Sangar: OCEmu gives machine.lua all the libs :3

L1667[14:56:54] <Sangar> heh

L1668[14:57:12] <gamax92> I should fix that but I wasn't able to find out what was being removed

L1669[14:57:17] <gamax92> linky :D?

L1670[14:57:41] <v^> Sangar, what about bytecode exploits

L1671[14:57:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, so now I put a breakpoint on my node() method

L1672[14:58:02] <Vexatos> and, well

L1673[14:58:09] <Vexatos> I plugged it in

L1674[14:58:14] <Vexatos> it was in the right network

L1675[14:58:17] <scj643> Not in the default repo

L1676[14:58:19] <Vexatos> I went and called a method on it

L1677[14:58:25] <scj643> Elizabeth:

L1678[14:58:30] <Vexatos> breakpoint triggered (in update())

L1679[14:58:36] <Vexatos> and it was in the wrong network!

L1680[14:58:36] <Elizabeth> scj643:

L1681[14:58:43] <Elizabeth> isn't it? huh

L1682[14:58:54] <scj643> Speedtest-cli isnt in the repos

L1683[14:58:56] <Elizabeth> it's on Athar which is debian so i thought it'd be in the ubuntu ones

L1684[14:58:59] <Skye> v^, you cannot run bytecode on OC

L1685[14:59:03] <Elizabeth> try all lowercase...

L1686[14:59:17] <scj643> Did that

L1687[14:59:21] <Sangar> gamax92, http://git.io/vuPEl

L1688[14:59:25] <v^> Skye, if the sandbox was broken?

L1689[14:59:30] <scj643> Going to run aptitude

L1690[14:59:34] <Sangar> well, if someone gets access to the real load, rip i gues

L1691[14:59:58] <Vexatos> Sangar, ok, called direct method on the board

L1692[15:00:07] <Vexatos> with a breakpoint

L1693[15:00:18] <Vexatos> in the @Callback method itself, network is just fine

L1694[15:00:26] <Vexatos> next update(), network wrong

L1695[15:01:55] <scj643> Yeah not in default repis

L1696[15:03:04] <Elizabeth> meh

L1697[15:03:15] <Skye> is there no way to have safe Lua bytecode?

L1698[15:03:19] <Vexatos> Sangar,

L1699[15:03:22] <Vexatos> they are different objects

L1700[15:03:32] <Sangar> <_>

L1701[15:03:36] <Vexatos> one has the hashcode 15781, one has 13498

L1702[15:03:56] <Sangar> you're not checking on the client side for one of the two are you?

L1703[15:04:14] <Vexatos> err object index

L1704[15:04:27] <Vexatos> Sangar, unless update() or the @Callback are client-sided

L1705[15:04:41] <Sangar> update might be, can't remember, callback definitely not :P

L1706[15:04:57] <Vexatos> Sangar, the light board itself

L1707[15:05:01] <Vexatos> is two separate objects!

L1708[15:05:14] <Vexatos> The one update() is called on

L1709[15:05:22] <Vexatos> is different to the one the callback is called on!

L1710[15:05:30] <tim4242> OK restarting IDEA solved it

L1711[15:05:48] <scj643> Can quemu forward USB from a remote PC to the guest

L1712[15:06:08] <S3> Scj: remote PC?!

L1713[15:06:33] <Vexatos> Sangar, let's hook into the contructor

L1714[15:06:34] <Vexatos> ;_;

L1715[15:06:36] <scj643> I want to run OS X on a remote v

L1716[15:06:37] <S3> You're going to need some sort of USB networking driver into some sort of dummy USB driver I would think?

L1717[15:07:01] <scj643> Because of Xcode.

L1718[15:07:21] <S3> Heh

L1719[15:07:34] <scj643> Apple is proprietary as hell

L1720[15:07:49] <scj643> I want to code for my iPad

L1721[15:07:50] <S3> So you have a any host somewhere?

L1722[15:08:02] <S3> And you want your local USB ports connected to it?

L1723[15:08:02] <scj643> Elizabeth

L1724[15:08:15] <scj643> She has a VM that I can use

L1725[15:08:29] <S3> Have a qemu host somewhere*

L1726[15:08:40] <scj643> She uses qemu

L1727[15:09:12] <gamax92> Skye: nope

L1728[15:09:12] <Elizabeth> S3, Athar is the KVM/QEMU host that his vps runs on, it runs ubuntu last i checked

L1729[15:09:34] <scj643> Yep still does

L1730[15:10:16] <S3> I've seen USB over network set ups with virt over rdp done before...

L1731[15:10:21] <S3> But

L1732[15:10:37] <S3> Don't it was qemu

L1733[15:10:44] <scj643> http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/

L1734[15:10:45] <S3> It was probably hyper crap

L1735[15:10:55] <Vexatos> Yup, Sangar, createEnvironment is getting called twice on each side

L1736[15:10:55] <S3> Doubt*

L1737[15:11:01] <scj643> RDP USB doesn't work for every device

L1738[15:11:16] <scj643> I use RDP in my hosue

L1739[15:11:25] <scj643> Elizabith http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/

L1740[15:11:34] <S3> Elizabeth is hosting virt too now?

L1741[15:11:52] <S3> Scj: have you been on mc lately?

L1742[15:12:04] <S3> I do not think we ever removed your server.

L1743[15:12:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, backtracking all the things

L1744[15:12:22] <S3> I would assume you still have access

L1745[15:12:30] <Vexatos> connectComponents is called twice....

L1746[15:12:56] <scj643> S3 no I haven't

L1747[15:13:00] * vifino slaps scj643

L1748[15:13:01] * EnderBot2 rulls on the floor laughing

L1749[15:13:09] <Vexatos> ooooooooooooooooooh saaaaaaaaangaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar

L1750[15:13:09] <vifino> Write Elizabeth's wonderful name right.

L1751[15:13:23] <S3> Sangar won't add eeproms to the network cards

L1752[15:13:23] <scj643> My server is probably going to be archived until the summer

L1753[15:13:24] <Inari> scj643: add an extra c

L1754[15:13:25] <S3> :(

L1755[15:13:32] <MajGenRelativity> SHOTS FIREDDDDDDDDDDD

L1756[15:14:06] <scj643> I don't have time or the will to manage it right now

L1757[15:14:19] <Inari> adding a c is easy

L1758[15:14:26] <scj643> Why

L1759[15:14:47] <Inari> cause its hitting a single extra key

L1760[15:14:49] <Inari> whcihis easy

L1761[15:15:48] <scj643> S3 http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~somlo/OSXKVM/

L1762[15:17:21] <scj643> Seems like this fully emulates OS X to the point that it doesn't mess with the Eula

L1763[15:17:53] <scj643> It uses the SMC key that you provide

L1764[15:18:15] <Vexatos> onPlugConnect is called twice...

L1765[15:20:26] <Vexatos> soo Sangar, would you like to test? >_>

L1766[15:21:03] <Vexatos> I can't go much further back

L1767[15:23:34] <Sangar> Vexatos, createEnv is called once on the client and once on the server

L1768[15:23:41] <Vexatos> Yea

L1769[15:23:43] <Vexatos> called four times ehre

L1770[15:23:46] <Sangar> wat

L1771[15:23:47] <Vexatos> twice on each side

L1772[15:23:59] <Vexatos> And I swear I only have one light board mounted in the world

L1773[15:24:23] <Sangar> i added a breakpoint to the disk drive's driver, only gets called once per side

L1774[15:25:02] <Vexatos> Indeed

L1775[15:25:38] <Vexatos> Sangar, giving you a deobf version so you can test yourself >_>

L1776[15:25:50] <Vexatos> http://vexatos.com/phora/dev/Computronics-1.7.10-1.6.1-deobf.jar

L1777[15:25:58] <Vexatos> load, get Light Board from NEI or whatever

L1778[15:25:59] <Vexatos> install

L1779[15:26:06] <Vexatos> click magic wire GUI buttons

L1780[15:26:17] <Vexatos> and run =components.light_board.setActive(1, true)

L1781[15:26:21] <Vexatos> in the REPL

L1782[15:26:25] <Vexatos> with a breakpoint on that callback

L1783[15:26:33] <Vexatos> and a breakpoint in update()

L1784[15:26:34] <Sangar> do i need a fancy asielib version for that?

L1785[15:26:43] <Vexatos> no, just the latest from le githubs

L1786[15:26:49] <Vexatos> err the website >_>

L1787[15:26:57] <Vexatos> http://wiki.vex.tty.sh/wiki:asielib

L1788[15:26:58] <Vexatos> >_>

L1789[15:28:55] <Vexatos> If it's the same as in my dev env, the networks and the entire env objects should be different

L1790[15:29:02] <Vexatos> since the constructor is called twice per side, too

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L1794[15:29:23] <Vexatos> If not, well, the first light on the rack should visually light up

L1795[15:29:40] <Vexatos> since it wouldn't be immediately shut down due to power loss in update()

L1796[15:29:43] <vifino> :O

L1797[15:29:45] <lizzy> makeshift desktop pc is a go

L1798[15:29:48] <vifino> MORE LIZZIES?!?!!?

L1799[15:29:50] <vifino> :D :D :D

L1800[15:30:04] <scj643> Lizzy qemu OS X isn't looking good

L1801[15:30:15] <scj643> Have to get my hands on SMC IDs

L1802[15:30:29] <vifino> scj643: I'm sorry, but I have to inform you that lizzy most likely (99%) doesn't give a shit.

L1803[15:30:33] <vifino> My condolences.

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L1807[15:31:32] <scj643> Going to try virtual box

L1808[15:33:18] <Vexatos> Sangar, found anything yet >_>

L1809[15:33:52] <Sangar> Vexatos, works for me

L1810[15:33:55] <Vexatos> wat

L1811[15:33:58] <Vexatos> does it light up etc?

L1812[15:34:01] <Sangar> yes

L1813[15:34:17] <Vexatos> WHAT

L1814[15:34:45] <Vexatos> and I'm even on the very lated dev build

L1815[15:35:48] <Sangar> i have no unpushed changes

L1816[15:36:21] <Sangar> createEnv is also only called once per side (going by breakpoint in onItemAdded)

L1817[15:36:23] * Sangar shrugs

L1818[15:36:26] <Sangar> magic

L1819[15:37:59] <SkySom> Are you a wizard?! lol

L1820[15:38:00] <Vexatos> Sangar, please slap me

L1821[15:38:09] <Vexatos> then re-open the game in case you closed it

L1822[15:38:18] <Vexatos> put any light board anywhere else in any server

L1823[15:38:27] <Vexatos> all alone with no other mountable

L1824[15:38:30] <scj643> Ooh I can use Microsoft RDP clients with virtualbox

L1825[15:38:30] <Vexatos> and try the same thing

L1826[15:38:40] <Vexatos> now to figure out why this shite happens

L1827[15:38:48] <Sangar> <_>

L1828[15:38:49] <Sangar> wat

L1829[15:38:56] <Vexatos> wow

L1830[15:38:58] <Vexatos> RIP me

L1831[15:39:10] <Vexatos> want to know how I store light values, Sangar?

L1832[15:39:12] <Vexatos> In an enum

L1833[15:39:15] <Vexatos> AN

L1834[15:39:17] <Vexatos> E N U M

L1835[15:39:24] <Vexatos> Please slap me

L1836[15:39:26] <Vexatos> ;_;

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L1839[15:42:48] <Sangar> i would have

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L1841[15:42:50] <Sangar> but then he quit

L1842[15:43:10] <greaser|q> try slapping him with a truck

L1843[15:45:34] <S3> scj643, dafuq is all this crap?

L1844[15:45:38] <S3> lol

L1845[15:46:26] <vifino> S3!

L1846[15:46:38] <S3> Hey

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L1848[15:46:44] <vifino> How are you doing?

L1849[15:46:58] <scj643> I want to run OS X in a VM

L1850[15:47:02] <S3> Got home today

L1851[15:47:23] <S3> scj643, why do you want to run mac btw?

L1852[15:47:34] <S3> mac is okay but apple is a shitbucket

L1853[15:48:01] <scj643> I want to code for iOS

L1854[15:48:02] <nxsupert> OS X is really good. But Mac's are expensive.

L1855[15:48:17] <S3> You are telling me that you will use a system developed by a company that wants to tell you how to use your computer?

L1856[15:48:20] <scj643> And it's a shit fest to setup on any other platform

L1857[15:48:40] <scj643> I only want it for development purposes

L1858[15:48:45] * S3 is waiting for Sc2 to find players...

L1859[15:48:58] <nxsupert> OS X has a lot more freedom than windows 10.

L1860[15:48:59] <S3> It's too bad really

L1861[15:49:20] <Elizabeth> nxsupert, lunix has a lot more freedom than both

L1862[15:49:22] <Elizabeth> *linux

L1863[15:49:33] <Elizabeth> lunix is linux's cousin

L1864[15:49:41] <nxsupert> Yes, But that comes at the cost of being complex.

L1865[15:49:46] <vifino> lunix = luser unix

L1866[15:49:47] <Elizabeth> not reall

L1867[15:49:49] <Elizabeth> y

L1868[15:50:25] <nxsupert> Uhh. Yes really. The number of times APT has messed up for me and x.org has refused to work.

L1869[15:50:38] <nxsupert> Maybe I was just unlucky.

L1870[15:53:27] <nxsupert> But still. Better than windows :P

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L1872[15:53:46] <gamax92> nxsupert: you're very unlucky

L1873[15:54:10] <gamax92> and yeah, developing for windows and linux is fairly easy

L1874[15:54:29] <vifino> nxsupert: I'm using arch and never had a system break.

L1875[15:54:39] <gamax92> cross compiling for OS X is a pain in the ass and even if I can, how am I supposed to test it if I don't have OS X

L1876[15:54:49] <vifino> Neither my server, tty.sh, nor my laptop, nor my home server.

L1877[15:54:52] <nxsupert> Not really. Tbf it was AMD's fault for making a terrible driver.

L1878[15:55:04] <gamax92> oh, that

L1879[15:55:09] <gamax92> yeah, I don't blame you

L1880[15:55:17] <Kodos> I'm going to end up offing myself one of these days

L1881[15:55:25] <gamax92> please don't

L1882[15:55:32] * Elizabeth hugs Kodos

L1883[15:55:43] <Kodos> I know

L1884[15:55:44] <Kodos> I just

L1885[15:55:46] <Elizabeth> no, don't do that pls

L1886[15:55:49] <scj643> Elizabeth is the server Intel?

L1887[15:55:57] <Alissa> does there happen to be a Lua LLVM binding?

L1888[15:55:59] <nxsupert> I'll use linux for a server. But I just find OS X much nicer to use for school work.

L1889[15:56:11] <Elizabeth> scj643, It's a freaking Zeon

L1890[15:56:11] <Kodos> Keep having these dreams about being with my ex, and in these dreams I'm honestly happier than I am in my RL relationship with my wife, and it guilts me the fuck out

L1891[15:57:53] <Kodos> brb, relogging to clear that off of my screen

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L1894[15:58:01] zsh sets mode: +v on Kodos

L1895[16:00:36] <scj643> Should be good enough to run OS X on virtualbox

L1896[16:00:40] <gamax92> Ishiiruka Dolphin is interesting, it randomly does this: black screen, screen flickering between correct output, garbled output, and black screen, and correct output

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L1898[16:01:01] <scj643> I find it amazing that virtualbox uses RDP for remote connections

L1899[16:01:16] <gamax92> doesn't it also have vnc?

L1900[16:01:56] <scj643> Idk but RDP is better imho

L1901[16:02:18] <scj643> OS X has native VNC

L1902[16:03:58] <greaser|q> did some experiments, a better choice for a 16-colour palette for a tier 3 screen + gpu is a low grey ramp, not a full one

L1903[16:04:20] <greaser|q> oh yeah, that challenge for CC to make a video player is still up for grabs

L1904[16:04:32] <greaser|q> well ok the challenge is actually for livestreaming

L1905[16:11:36] <greaser|q> here's an idea, should there be an exponential or approximation of exponential ramp for an alternate palette mode?

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L1907[16:12:02] <greaser|q> it helps for stuff that uses darker colours

L1908[16:12:34] <gamax92> ?

L1909[16:12:56] <gamax92> Don't follow, wouldn't you just change the palette colors and use your darker colors?

L1910[16:20:33] <S3> It's too bad because scj643 your excuse is reasonable. (Besides the fact that iOS is also crap) Interestingly enough though, mac makes an awful development machine..

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L1912[16:23:01] <scj643> S3 os X is the only real platform to cods for apple anythibg

L1913[16:23:19] <scj643> You can get toolchains for other platforms but they suck

L1914[16:23:52] <greaser|q> gamax92: yeah i'll be doing that

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L1916[16:24:40] <ds84182> <neobrain> what's the deal with all the lua homebrew o_o

L1917[16:24:40] <ds84182> <ds84182> neobrain: I can make another one if you want.

L1918[16:24:41] <ds84182> kek

L1919[16:25:50] <tim4242> Done, finally. I just needed to get to know the workflow of a new IDE.

L1920[16:26:27] <S3> tim4242, emacs!

L1921[16:26:41] <tim4242> S3, what!

L1922[16:26:48] <S3> scj643, yeah, but it doesn't make it easy

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L1924[16:27:03] <S3> It makes it so annoying

L1925[16:27:59] <tim4242> I personally don't like writing stuff for OSX or IOS, too non standard and closed.

L1926[16:28:52] * ds84182 gives tim4242 an Objective

L1927[16:28:57] <ds84182> Don't you C?

L1928[16:29:08] <ds84182> I'll see myself out

L1929[16:29:12] <tim4242> I like C but not Obj C

L1930[16:29:44] <ds84182> Objective C (to me) is the Perl of Cs

L1931[16:30:10] <S3> Objective C will never be Perl..

L1932[16:30:20] <S3> In fact

L1933[16:30:24] <S3> not even Perl 6 is like Perl :P

L1934[16:30:35] <tim4242> I just think that making everything your self is sometimes not the best way to go

L1935[16:31:00] <scj643> What about swift

L1936[16:31:06] <S3> tim4242, it's not just writing "for" osx

L1937[16:31:15] <S3> it's also writing "on" it that is a pita

L1938[16:31:25] <S3> the UI is such a piece of lard

L1939[16:31:29] <scj643> You can port the toolchains

L1940[16:31:38] <S3> and everything is in awful places on the filesystem

L1941[16:31:57] <S3> so using terminals for everything is the best way to go as usual but because of that still is annoying

L1942[16:32:09] <scj643> Yeah whoever made the osx filesystem was on something

L1943[16:32:48] <S3> where's the config for program X? oh uh.. in one of 30 plist repository directories on the hard drive

L1944[16:32:49] <S3> WTF?

L1945[16:33:11] <tim4242> As I said: being non standard in sometimes really bad

L1946[16:33:18] <S3> haha

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L1948[16:33:38] <S3> 30 mins until grocery rides!

L1949[16:33:46] <S3> I might have enough time for another starcraft 2 match

L1950[16:33:54] <S3> I've won every single one today I've played

L1951[16:34:08] <S3> (but I've only played two today so that's not impressive XD)

L1952[16:34:52] <S3> LOL. There's a photo on my chromecast display

L1953[16:34:55] <S3> it says "getty images"

L1954[16:35:06] <S3> first thing I think of, "WHAT?! THATS NOT A TERMINAL!"

L1955[16:35:17] <S3> because agetty :P

L1956[16:45:09] <ds84182> What I really hate is when someone packages an archive on MacOSX and the fucking archive has a complete copy of itself + plist files in a hidden directory in the archive.

L1957[16:45:20] <ds84182> How to bloat file sizes part 1

L1958[16:46:39] <scj643> Damn

L1959[16:46:55] <scj643> Well I don't give a care about mac problems just want it for ios

L1960[16:47:09] <S3> lol

L1961[16:47:15] <S3> So why are you making ios apps?

L1962[16:47:25] <scj643> Trying out swift with ios

L1963[16:47:32] <scj643> Swift is their new programing language

L1964[16:47:45] <scj643> They recently FOSSed the main base for it

L1965[16:47:55] <scj643> just not the apple specific parts

L1966[16:48:18] <S3> I think it would be cooler to build apps for android / ios, etc using django / mojolicious, dancer, catalyst, etc- and then if the phone has anything specific it needs to store, make a very tiny app that is easy to maintain for that that uses the site for its frontend

L1967[16:48:49] <S3> I think that is a great way to handle portability for mobile systems

L1968[16:49:03] <S3> Just keep in mind it requires a data connection (depending on what you do)

L1969[16:49:05] <S3> or wifi

L1970[16:49:35] <S3> the more stuff you want to be able to do offline with your apps, the larger the phone side apps become

L1971[16:49:48] <S3> many apps out there don't need anything running on the phone at all besides a browser imo

L1972[16:50:16] <scj643> Now i got the modded OS X image

L1973[16:50:34] <S3> Also, it's just my opinion, but when I was doing sysadmin work for the last company I worked at, they were using swift, and I was not impressed at all

L1974[16:50:48] <S3> you running hackintosh?

L1975[16:50:55] <S3> well, sorta

L1976[16:51:05] <S3> equivalent of

L1977[16:53:55] <scj643> OS X on Elizabeth's server

L1978[16:54:04] <scj643> On par with a hackentosh

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L1980[16:54:17] <scj643> Right now just trying to get virtualbox working

L1981[16:55:03] <ds84182> I'd love to build apps using Dart for Android, but Flutter only AOT compiles for iOS

L1982[16:55:11] <ds84182> Which makes me sad

L1983[16:57:54] <S3> wait a minute..

L1984[16:58:01] <S3> you have virtualbox running on a server?

L1985[16:58:14] <ds84182> https://github.com/Team-CC-Corp/JVML-JIT

L1986[16:58:27] <S3> ds84182, sue apple!

L1987[16:58:28] <ds84182> I can't believe how far they've gone

L1988[16:58:34] <S3> tell them they aren't open enough

L1989[16:58:41] <ds84182> S3: Nah, it's Google's fault

L1990[16:58:45] <S3> :)

L1991[16:58:47] <ds84182> Google made Flutter and Dart

L1992[16:58:51] <S3> orly?

L1993[16:58:56] <ds84182> yesrly

L1994[16:59:04] <S3> they should port docker to ios then

L1995[16:59:07] <S3> no more crap

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L1997[17:01:46] * Elizabeth falls asleep in vifino's arms

L1998[17:02:23] * vifino giggles

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L2001[17:05:59] <scj643> Dangit i needed Elizabeth

L2002[17:06:13] <scj643> I don't have enough HDD space on the vm for os x

L2003[17:08:24] <vifino> scj643: Too fucking bad.

L2004[17:08:33] <scj643> :(

L2005[17:08:36] <vifino> Not like you could run osx in virtualbox on kvm anyways.

L2006[17:08:46] <scj643> You never tried it

L2007[17:08:48] <vifino> Not on two gigs of ram and two cores.

L2008[17:09:13] <vifino> scj643: I'm sorry, but how did you decide that I didn't?

L2009[17:09:26] <scj643> I got 4 gb of ram

L2010[17:09:29] <scj643> and 2 cores

L2011[17:09:55] <vifino> Oh, good for you.

L2012[17:10:07] <gamax92> vifino stop being an asshole

L2013[17:10:10] <vifino> Performance will still suck balls because no hardware virt.

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L2015[17:10:37] <vifino> gamax92: never, that would make too much sense

L2016[17:10:47] <Inari> ~oc modem

L2017[17:10:47] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:modem

L2018[17:16:33] <scj643> Shit

L2019[17:16:38] <scj643> Wish I knew that

L2020[17:16:46] <scj643> No hardware virt = no osx

L2021[17:16:56] <scj643> No 64 bit guests :(

L2022[17:17:02] <vifino> Told ya.

L2023[17:17:09] <scj643> :(

L2024[17:18:31] <ds84182> Run it in qemu

L2025[17:18:33] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

L2026[17:19:06] <scj643> qemu requires me to have dumps from a real mac

L2027[17:19:06] <scj643> oh wait my image wouldn't use those parts

L2028[17:19:15] <scj643> I'm using a hackentosh image I've used it before

L2029[17:20:27] <scj643> Well the only hardware I have that does have virtualization is amd and only has 2 gb of ram

L2030[17:22:45] <scj643> S3: What you think of running os x as a vm on a remote server idea

L2031[17:23:13] <ds84182> I'm thinking about starting on VM53 now

L2032[17:23:37] <ds84182> However, I need to finish this decompiler

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L2034[17:25:30] <ds84182> Isn't it beautifyl~~~ http://hastebin.com/ukeguhiken.lua

L2035[17:26:05] <ds84182> And it should compile to roughly the same code (take out the extra local variables that are unused and the trailing return)

L2036[17:31:17] <Inari> ~oc drone

L2037[17:31:17] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:drone

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L2043[18:08:10] <Inari> http://i.imgur.com/zfzjANV.jpg noot noot ;-;

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L2045[18:14:53] <Izaya> scj643, you will not enjoy OSX over LAN, let alone over the WAN in another country

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L2141[18:16:24] <Izaya> non-toggleable pointless visual effects, hard-to-compress UI elements...

L2142[18:18:57] <Techokami> what a nice netsplit

L2143[18:19:35] <CompanionCube> Izaya, ohai izaya

L2144[18:20:17] <Izaya> Hai

L2145[18:20:29] <CompanionCube> I has good news and bad news

L2146[18:20:51] <CompanionCube> good news is that I don't have to use that braindead Lego Mindstorms 'language' / IDE

L2147[18:20:57] <Izaya> Yay

L2148[18:21:09] <CompanionCube> We will has options

L2149[18:21:26] <CompanionCube> ranging from extremely shitty 'icon-based' lang, to something scratch-based, to Java or C.

L2150[18:21:39] <Izaya> Java? O.o

L2151[18:21:51] <CompanionCube> Izaya, ikr

L2152[18:21:55] <Izaya> Don't they have like

L2153[18:22:05] <Izaya> limited memory?

L2154[18:22:09] <CompanionCube> wouldn't know

L2155[18:22:17] <CompanionCube> because we're not using the mindstorms

L2156[18:22:30] <CompanionCube> instead we're using some variant of an arduino

L2157[18:23:26] <CompanionCube> called a studino or something

L2158[18:24:16] <CompanionCube> Izaya, do you want to hear the bad news

L2159[18:24:17] <Izaya> Huh

L2160[18:24:26] <Izaya> Sure why not

L2161[18:24:36] <CompanionCube> the bad news is that we'll be doing games development in greenfoot

L2162[18:26:03] <CompanionCube> can you guess why is bad news

L2163[18:26:44] <Izaya> Well from what I see on wikipedia

L2164[18:26:48] <Izaya> Ew

L2165[18:27:00] <CompanionCube> Izaya, the bootlegness of the IDE

L2166[18:27:03] <CompanionCube> is incredibly hide

L2167[18:27:05] <Izaya> It looks somehow worse than gamemaker

L2168[18:27:10] <CompanionCube> nope

L2169[18:27:22] <CompanionCube> in this one you have the full capabilities of Java at hand

L2170[18:27:27] <CompanionCube> including things like say, reflection

L2171[18:27:41] <Izaya> It's GPL which is nice

L2172[18:28:25] *** Cranium[Away] is now known as Cranium

L2173[18:28:37] <gamax92> you know what would be nice?

L2174[18:28:45] <gamax92> if the youtube app on android didn't freeze it's video

L2175[18:28:49] <CompanionCube> Izaya, do you see why it's better than game-maker though

L2176[18:29:26] <Izaya> Yeah it actually teaches a real language

L2177[18:29:33] <CompanionCube> so

L2178[18:29:40] <CompanionCube> do you want to see my testing out of the ide locally

L2179[18:29:48] <gamax92> Izaya: what's wrong with GML

L2180[18:30:00] <Izaya> Did you crash it?

L2181[18:30:08] <CompanionCube> not quite

L2182[18:30:23] <CompanionCube> although the UI for reporting errors

L2183[18:30:30] <Izaya> gamax92: Ever seen a webserver running GML CGI scripts?

L2184[18:30:30] <CompanionCube> does not play well at all with Enlightenment#

L2185[18:30:46] <CompanionCube> GML is a functional domain-specific language but that's all that can be said.

L2186[18:30:51] <Izaya> Or a util written in GML?

L2187[18:30:57] <gamax92> Izaya: ever see a webserver written in a game programming utility? >_>

L2188[18:31:04] <gamax92> horrible example

L2189[18:31:24] <CompanionCube> does GML have named arguments yet

L2190[18:31:40] <Izaya> GML works fine inside GameMaker but it isn't used elsewhere

L2191[18:32:07] <CompanionCube> I believe you can return an array from the bastardized version of a function now, so that's one less issue

L2192[18:32:08] <gamax92> and?

L2193[18:32:52] <CompanionCube> can you define methods/procedures on sprites entirely using GML, with zero usage of the D&D blocks (including the 'execute code' ones)

L2194[18:34:32] <CompanionCube> GML works, but that's all that can be said. It is neither a good language or even very desirable to work in

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L2196[18:39:01] <gamax92> I wouldn't know, I'd rather use ENIGMA and EDL over GameMaker and GML, though the GMstudio stuff has probably changed that

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L2198[18:40:58] <Inari> esper saw the penguin

L2199[18:40:59] <Inari> esper shat itself

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L2202[18:57:00] <S3> we should all 2v1 Cruor in SC2

L2203[18:58:20] <scj643> I'm going to attempt to install osx

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L2206[19:32:13] <S3> attempt

L2207[19:32:17] <S3> key word there

L2208[19:32:20] <S3> :)

L2209[19:35:38] <scj643> :D

L2210[19:35:48] <scj643> I succeded in doing it in a VM

L2211[19:35:54] <scj643> On a diffrent computer

L2212[19:36:16] <scj643> Well it was made after 2010 so that's good

L2213[19:36:35] <scj643> Hackintoshes have better odds on hardware from 2010 or newer

L2214[19:37:08] <scj643> One of the best foss IRC clients is for OS X

L2215[19:37:10] <scj643> textual

L2216[19:37:17] <scj643> Well it's open source

L2217[19:37:23] <scj643> you can't distribute

L2218[19:37:35] <scj643> (Think it only applies to binaries)

L2219[19:38:36] <Ivoah> LimeChat is the best OS X IRC client

L2220[19:39:13] <scj643> LimeChat isn't open source afaik

L2221[19:39:41] <Ivoah> It is

L2222[19:39:50] <Ivoah> https://github.com/psychs/limechat

L2223[19:40:57] <scj643> Love how all the OS X irc clients are more fancy than windows or linux

L2224[19:41:38] <CompanionCube> well dih

L2225[19:41:38] <scj643> Limechat doesn't look pretty

L2226[19:41:52] <CompanionCube> gotta have *something* to justify your overpriced shit

L2227[19:42:04] <scj643> Textual looks good and has a lot of features and extendablity

L2228[19:44:42] <Ivoah> scj643: What, limechat is beautiful

L2229[19:46:06] <Ivoah> Also, it doesn't look like textual is free

L2230[19:46:41] <scj643> It is if you compile it yourself

L2231[19:46:46] <Ivoah> ah

L2232[19:46:52] <scj643> change one flag in the xcode project

L2233[19:47:20] <scj643> They don't give support for compiling though

L2234[19:47:31] <Ivoah> scj643: where's the repo?

L2235[19:47:36] <scj643> but once you figure it out (Xcode makes it somewhat easier than the cmd)

L2236[19:47:45] <scj643> gimme a minute

L2237[19:47:55] <scj643> https://github.com/Codeux-Software/Textual/

L2238[19:48:21] <scj643> Instalation media made

L2239[19:48:55] <Ivoah> I think I remember looking at textual before, and some dev was angry or something

L2240[19:49:00] <Ivoah> and something wasn't available

L2241[19:49:07] <scj643> oh

L2242[19:49:21] <scj643> Now need to find a way to boot from a pci sd card slot

L2243[19:56:45] <Ivoah> scj643: Why don't you like how limechat looks?

L2244[20:01:56] <scj643> Idk

L2245[20:02:18] <scj643> The screenshots make it look like it doesn't belong in OS X

L2246[20:03:11] <Ivoah> Those are oldish screenshots

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L2248[20:03:39] <Ivoah> Here's what my window looks like: https://sr.ht/bKNB.png

L2249[20:05:06] <scj643> Fuck onedrive wants me to sign in again

L2250[20:05:39] <Ivoah> Why are you using onedrive?

L2251[20:09:05] <scj643> 1tb

L2252[20:09:16] <scj643> Mom pays for office 365

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L2254[20:12:37] <Ivoah> good reason

L2255[20:14:28] <ds84182> Android claimed I only had 45mb of cached data on my phone storage

L2256[20:14:38] <ds84182> However I have 0 bytes of storage free

L2257[20:14:43] <ds84182> So I freed cached storage

L2258[20:14:46] <v^> "You like black girls"

L2259[20:14:47] <v^> "Would you say your coo coo for coca puffs"

L2260[20:14:55] <ds84182> And now I have 570mb free

L2261[20:15:50] <v^> my gf is ridiculous

L2262[20:15:59] <ds84182> And aparently my "Text message memory is full" so it just simply went and threw away a text from possibly my mom

L2263[20:16:03] <ds84182> which is probably important

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L2266[20:26:37] <scj643> Any way to chain load an sd card reader

L2267[20:27:47] <v^> scj643, wut

L2268[20:27:58] <v^> but SD cards are already SPI

L2269[20:28:06] <scj643> I got a 16gb sd card witha pci card reader

L2270[20:28:14] <scj643> I can't boot it from the bios

L2271[20:28:45] <v^> scj643, generally you cant boot from those devices

L2272[20:28:54] <scj643> Fuck fuck fuck

L2273[20:29:20] <scj643> I wanted to install osx

L2274[20:29:23] <scj643> attempt to

L2275[20:29:37] <v^> :p why would you want osx

L2276[20:29:45] <scj643> Xcode

L2277[20:29:50] <v^> ew

L2278[20:30:31] <scj643> I have an ipad

L2279[20:30:35] <scj643> I want to code

L2280[20:30:44] <v^> EWEWEW IPAD

L2281[20:30:49] <scj643> Also would be neat to show off

L2282[20:30:49] <v^> such proprietary

L2283[20:30:56] <v^> verry restrictive

L2284[20:31:01] <v^> such no jit

L2285[20:31:07] <scj643> I got it through a grant

L2286[20:31:50] <scj643> what about loopbacking an iso

L2287[20:37:02] <v^> scj643, whats your main OS?

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L2291[20:40:05] <v^> because on linux i used GRUB to mount a windows installer

L2292[20:40:09] <v^> from an iso

L2293[20:41:34] <scj643> Windows 10

L2294[20:41:45] <scj643> This is an OS X image though

L2295[20:42:03] <scj643> So its a wild beast of it's own :D

L2296[20:42:22] <malcom2073> You can't install OSX on just any hardware

L2297[20:42:35] <scj643> I know that

L2298[20:42:48] <scj643> This is also a modified version of OS X

L2299[20:42:51] <malcom2073> Best bet if you don't want to buy a mac, is buy hardware supported by projects like osxlatitude

L2300[20:43:22] <scj643> Well I don't have either option

L2301[20:43:43] <malcom2073> You could do a VM

L2302[20:45:35] <scj643> Nope

L2303[20:45:44] <scj643> CPU doesn't have virtualization

L2304[20:45:53] <malcom2073> wow heh

L2305[20:48:37] <scj643> Need a way to boot from an iso

L2306[20:59:10] <malcom2073> Does the ISO have boot capabilities?

L2307[20:59:33] <malcom2073> If so, you can use an image writer to stick it on, otherwise you need to include a bootloader

L2308[21:03:39] <scj643> I was thinking of chain loading it

L2309[21:05:34] <malcom2073> My statement stands

L2310[21:06:45] <scj643> I can't put it on a usb

L2311[21:06:53] <scj643> all my flash drives are 4 gb

L2312[21:06:59] <scj643> this image is 5.1

L2313[21:20:00] <Izaya> ESO any good?

L2314[21:35:21] <scj643> Grub4dos is working so far

L2315[21:35:22] <scj643> I chain loaded the iOS

L2316[21:42:12] <_habnabit> are there any good memory profilers for lua/openos/OC? i can't throw more memory at it; this is a tier 3 server with 3x3.5 RAM cards

L2317[21:42:22] <_habnabit> it keeps dying now and then

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L2320[22:00:21] <Kodos> Have I missed anything?

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L2325[22:09:16] <_habnabit> Kodos, 03:42:12 < _habnabit> are there any good memory profilers for lua/openos/OC? i can't throw more memory at it; this is a tier 3 server with 3x3.5 RAM cards 03:42:22 < _habnabit> it keeps dying now and then

L2326[22:09:38] <Kodos> Servers can hold 4 mem sticks, can't they?

L2327[22:09:51] <Kodos> Also, are you on SSP, or playing on a server

L2328[22:09:53] <_habnabit> oops i meant 4x3.5

L2329[22:10:03] <_habnabit> SSP? it's a server, but i host it

L2330[22:10:14] <Kodos> You could adjust the amount of memory each RAM provides

L2331[22:10:17] <Kodos> In the config

L2332[22:10:34] <_habnabit> i suppose, but it really feels like it's a problem with my code

L2333[22:10:38] <Kodos> Beyond that, I'd have to see the code you're running, but I'd bet dollars to donuts you've got a mem leak somewhere

L2334[22:10:43] <_habnabit> i just don't know if there's a common way to track it down

L2335[22:11:12] <_habnabit> i could post the code, sure

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L2342[22:15:50] <_habnabit> Kodos, http://paste.pound-python.org/show/KKBoKBZMznVIAolxImO6/

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L2345[22:21:44] <Kodos> Chances are something's breaking with process

L2346[22:22:03] <Kodos> Meddling with premade software can vary in results

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L2348[22:22:25] <Kodos> In other news, my eyes burn, and I can barely keep them open, but I'm not tired at all

L2349[22:22:31] <_habnabit> it's roughtly what process.load already does

L2350[22:22:39] * Kodos shrugs

L2351[22:22:47] <Kodos> You're better off asking someone who knows more about what you're doing than I

L2352[22:22:56] <_habnabit> haha ok

L2353[22:23:00] <_habnabit> (maybe you should sleep anyway)

L2354[22:23:06] <Kodos> Probably but I need a shower first

L2355[22:29:00] <Kodos> Ah, it was my glasses

L2356[22:29:05] <Kodos> They needed cleaned, eyes were straining

L2357[22:29:14] <Kodos> Better now =D

L2358[22:29:38] <Kodos> Netflix time =D

L2359[22:29:48] <SuPeRMiNoR2> My eyes still hurt from messing around with 3D

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L2363[23:07:26] <v^> SuPeRMiNoR2, ._. long time no see

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L2368[23:55:43] <FryoKnight> Um, hello? Anyone up?

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<FryoKnight> So.... Is there anyone that might be abe to help me with some coding?

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