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L4[00:43:56] <Sandra> yaaaay, I got banned
from #minecraftforge.
L5[00:44:01] <Sandra> never argue with
lex.
L6[00:44:08] <Sandra> I made a
mistake.
L7[00:44:54] <Xal> kek, whaddya say?
L8[00:45:47] <Sandra> I tried to explain
why, in the past, people refrained from updating to 1.8.
L9[00:46:02] <Sandra> and... got yelled at
for it.
L10[00:46:11] <Sandra> because "it
causes me work and harassment."
L11[00:46:21] <Xal> quite the fascist
huh?
L12[00:46:40] <Sandra> lex is that.
L13[00:46:44] <Sandra> in every way.
L14[00:46:58] <Sandra> but then, that right
there /was/ my 2nd initiation into the modding community.
L15[00:47:05] <Xal> he's got his head so
far up his ass
L16[00:47:07] <Sandra> it's the 2nd time
I've been banned from #minecraftforge.
L17[00:47:13] <Izaya> don't join
#minecraftforge
L18[00:47:15] <Izaya> simple as that
L19[00:47:23] <Xal> yeah, reason I don't
hang out there
L20[00:47:23] <Sandra> you're not a real
modder til you get banned from #minecraftforge.
L21[00:47:27] <Xal> it's a drama
magnet
L22[00:47:31] <Sandra> damn right.
L23[00:47:38] <Sandra> I haven't been there
for months.
L24[00:47:42] <Sandra> I decided to
rejoin.
L25[00:47:53] <Sandra> and tried to have a
peaceful conversation.
L26[00:47:59] <Sandra> but no.
L27[00:48:02] <Sandra> not at all.
L28[00:48:49] <Xal> ah well
L29[00:48:54] <Xal> i'm no modder
L30[00:48:54] <Sandra> here's the log
btw.
L31[00:48:56] <Sandra> <Sandra> well
it's moreso that we don't want to go through updating twice.
L32[00:48:56] <Sandra> <Sandra> but
ANNYway.
L33[00:48:56] <Sandra> <ThePsionic>
netz: setupDecompWorkspace takes a long time and uses a lot of
memory with ForgeGradle 2.1
L34[00:48:56] <Sandra> * You have been
kicked from #minecraftforge by LexManos (you're a moron)
L35[00:48:57] <Sandra> * Now talking on
#minecraftforge
L36[00:48:58] <Sandra> * Topic for
#minecraftforge is: Downloads:
http://files.minecraftforge.net Documentation:
http://mcforge.readthedocs.org No PM's Without
invitation, WebChats are muted. Do not say Lex's full nick unless
nessasary. Stay on topic. Banned topics: Release ETAs, Official
API, 'MC would be better in {insert language here}' #ForgeGradle
for gradle questions
L37[00:49:02] <Sandra> * Topic for
#minecraftforge set by Lex_ (Fri Aug 07 06:02:53 2015)
L39[00:49:06] <Sandra> <Sandra> i
see.
L40[00:49:08] <Izaya> uhhhhhh
L41[00:49:08] <Sandra> <Sandra> care
to explain why?
L42[00:49:10] <Sandra> <netz>
ThePsionic: ah, interesting. good thing I recently upgraded my ram
:)
L43[00:49:12] <Sandra> <LexManos>
"I donmt want to do a little work now so I am going to put it
off and then bitch about how the new update is a moutain of work
because I have to do 6 updates worth of work all at once because im
a lazy little fuck face"
L44[00:49:17] <Sandra> <ThePsionic>
netz: I'm on the crappiest laptop imaginable so yeah
L45[00:49:19] <Sandra> <LexManos>
That's your reasoning.
L46[00:49:21] <Sandra> <netz>
CPU~Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) speed/max~1400/3500 MHz
Kernel~4.3.0-1-ARCH x86_64 Up~3 days Mem~2764.5/13986.9MB
HDD~2000.4GB(17.7% used) Procs~175 Client~WeeChat 1.3
inxi~2.2.31
L47[00:49:24] <Sandra> <netz>
ThePsionic: funky ram count due to just sticking an 8gb stick on
top of an already funky 4/2gb stick setup :P
L48[00:49:27] <Sandra> <ThePsionic>
That's my desktop at home pretty much
L49[00:49:29] <Sandra> <Sandra>
there's a bit of overhead to updating, to any version.
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L52[00:49:35] <Sandra> <Sandra> let
alone the hassle of updating with these major patches.
L53[00:49:37] <Sandra> <Sandra> I am
not against 1.8.8 being a new standard.
L54[00:49:39] <Sandra> <LexManos> Yes
there is a small hassle. But thats how programming fucking
works.
L55[00:49:41] <Sandra> <LexManos> If
you don't like it, then dont make a minecraft mod.
L56[00:49:43] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> i have a FX6350 6-core, with 16GB ram and a
1TB WD blue HDD
L57[00:49:47] <Sandra> <Sandra> i
mean, it doesn't hurt to stay somewhere to focus on content
creation as opposed to updating to a new api.
L58[00:49:50] <Sandra> <LexManos>
Using that platitude is stupid. It's a false high-horse.
L59[00:49:52] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> its also the nature of writing code on top
of a codebase you have no control over
L60[00:49:54] <Sandra> <LexManos> Yes
actually it does Sandra
L61[00:49:56] <Sandra> <LexManos> it
hurts everyone in the community
L62[00:49:58] <Sandra> <LexManos>
ESPECIALLY me
L63[00:50:00] <Sandra> <LexManos>
because I have to deal with YOUR bullshit
L64[00:50:02] <Sandra> <Sandra> i,
personally, am not against updating to 1.8.8.
L65[00:50:04] <Sandra> * jandal
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L66[00:50:06] <Sandra> <Matthew>
ThePsionic, If you can give gradle 2GB of ram you'll be fine
L67[00:50:08] <Sandra> <Matthew> you
may have to explicitly give it that much if you have a small amount
of system ram though
L68[00:50:10] <Sandra> <LexManos>
yopu may not be against it mentally
L69[00:50:12] <Sandra> <Sandra> I
wish it wasn't, because then we have this split community for a
bit, but I'm not one of those "I STUBBORNLY REFUSE TO USE
1.8" people.
L70[00:50:17] <Sandra> <LexManos> but
the fact were having this discussion means youre one of the bad
people
L72[00:50:22] <Sandra> <Matthew>
because that gets copied to the mdk
L73[00:50:24] <Sandra> <Sandra> I
mean, I am about 10% opposed to updating, since it means that mods
that /aren't/ aren't compatible.
L74[00:50:26] <Sandra> <unascribed>
surprisingly enough, not everyone has 2GiB of RAM
L75[00:50:28] <Sandra> <LexManos> naw
its better to have FG do it and detect if its less then that
L76[00:50:30] <Sandra> <Sandra> and
that's why we stayed on 1.7.10 for so long, since nothing was
updating.
L77[00:50:32] <Sandra> <Sandra> this
is the typical thing of a version update.
L78[00:50:34] <Sandra> <Matthew> yeah
could have it spit a big warning
L79[00:50:36] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> sandra, it is that exact reason why you
SHOULD
L80[00:50:38] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> updating == incompatibility with older mods
and sticking with the update means that you push the rest of those
mods closer to updating
L81[00:50:41] <Sandra> <Sandra> the
1.8 gain/hassle amounts were, and I repeat WERE too little gain for
too much hassle.
L82[00:50:43] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> and thus you help out the entire modding
community, both the programmers and the players
L83[00:50:47] <Sandra> <LexManos>
Sandra, You're still being a moron, the 'chicken<->egg'
argument is not a fucking good one.
L84[00:50:49] <Sandra> <LexManos> Umm
no
L85[00:50:51] <Sandra> <Sandra> NOW,
on the other hand, it /is/ enough gain to justify the hassle.
L86[00:50:53] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> NOW the switch is almost trivial
L87[00:50:55] <Sandra> <LexManos>
they were never to little gain for to much hassle
L88[00:50:57] <Sandra> <LexManos>
Sandra, Seriously fuck off, you can not justify being lazy and not
updating. Holding the entire community back because you feel like
being a cunt is NEVER gunna fly here.
L89[00:50:57] <Izaya> pastebin pls
L90[00:51:00] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> and if the switch requires rewriting half
your mod code, good, it means you're making it work better for
1.8
L91[00:51:03] <Sandra> <LexManos> And
the more you try and justify yourself the more you just piss me off
with your stupidity
L92[00:51:05] <Sandra> <Sandra> I
come in and try and have a nice peaceful conversation, try to
explain myself without getting angry and I just get yelled
at.
L93[00:51:08] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> hey
L94[00:51:10] <Sandra> <LexManos> You
come in here yelling the same retarded shit as others, trying to
justify your laziness and your EXPLITLY MAKING MORE FUCKING
WORK/HARASSMENT FOR ME.
L95[00:51:13] <Sandra>
<shadekiller666> you have to realize where lex is coming
from
L96[00:51:17] <Sandra> <LexManos>
Expecially after todays bullshit
L97[00:51:19] <Sandra> <LexManos>
This isn't going to fucking work.
L98[00:51:21] <Sandra> <Sandra> what
happened today? sorry, i am unaware.
L99[00:51:23] <Sandra> <Sandra> and
what work am I causing?
L100[00:51:25] <Sandra> <LexManos>
And no there can never be a "peaceful conversation" when
you and your ilk are the reason I and attacked/harrassed/bitched at
daily.
L101[00:51:28] <Sandra> <LexManos>
So fuck off
L102[00:51:30] <Sandra> * MineBot sets ban
on *!*@2001:19f0:6800:8161:a:1ce:c01d:babe
L103[00:51:32] <Sandra> * You have been
kicked from #minecraftforge by MineBot (Banned: Bye (2d))
L104[00:51:34] <Sandra> ...
L105[00:51:35] <asie>
>attacked/harassed/bitched at
L106[00:51:36] <Sandra> i did not mean to
do that.
L107[00:51:38] <asie> >harassed
L108[00:51:38] <Sandra> i meant to paste a
link.
L109[00:51:40] <Sandra> but I guess i
forgot to copy.
L110[00:51:42] <asie>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>harassed
L111[00:51:42] <Sandra> dammit.
L112[00:51:43] <Izaya> gg
L114[00:51:48] <Sandra> there.
L115[00:51:49] <asie>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>harassed
L116[00:51:50] <Sandra> in pastebin
form.
L117[00:51:51] <asie> what the
actual
L118[00:51:54] <asie> also paste.asie.pl
yay
L119[00:51:59] <Xal>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>attacked
L120[00:52:05] <Xal> he was ATTACKED
L121[00:52:06] <asie> bitched at is about
right tho
L122[00:52:13] <Xal> do you not realize
the weight of the situation
L123[00:52:16] <Sandra> I... think there
was something that happened earlier today?
L124[00:52:19] <Xal> the almighty lex has
been attacked
L125[00:52:24] <Izaya> asie, can I use
paste.asie.pl from the command line?
L126[00:52:31] <Xal> assaulted, even
L127[00:52:40] <asie> Izaya: no API
L128[00:52:42] <asie> but you probably
can
L129[00:52:48] <asie> as long as you
capture the redirect link instead of it redirecting you
L130[00:52:52] <asie> curl probably has a
way to do it
L132[00:53:15] <Izaya> eh I've been using
vifino's
L133[00:53:56] <asie> Sandra: remember
when people made 1.4.7 mods?
L134[00:53:58] <asie> like, this
year?
L135[00:53:59] <Xal> the sheer volume of
drama in the minecraft modding community is funny
L136[00:54:09] <Izaya> I have a
theory
L137[00:54:09] <asie> i'm just going to
release a mod for Forge 1.3.2 at this rate
L138[00:54:20] <asie> and no
L139[00:54:20] <Sandra> I don't think
/that's/ called for.
L140[00:54:22] <asie> not Minecraft
1.3.2
L142[00:54:28] <Xal> it's the second most
drama i've ever seen in any game
L143[00:54:30] <Izaya> it's actually being
manipulated by higher-up beings for entertainment
L144[00:54:36] <asie> Izaya: uhhh
L145[00:54:38] <asie> that's called
L146[00:54:40] <asie> THE WORLD
L147[00:54:45] <asie> i mean
L148[00:54:47] <asie> what are wars?
L149[00:54:50] <Izaya> asie, but the MC
modding community especially
L150[00:54:52] <Sandra> Xal, have you met
lex?
L151[00:54:52] <asie> if not being
manipulated by higher-ups for their entertainment?
L153[00:55:04] <Sandra> lex probably
causes about 2/3rds of the drama.
L154[00:55:33] <Xal> yep, but I can't
quite say that the drama here is as bad as the ss13 community
L155[00:55:37] <asie> i last joined
#minecraftforge 6 months ago
L156[00:55:39] <asie> wow
L157[00:55:42] <Xal> holy FUCK that place
is a toxic cesspool
L158[00:55:58] <Sandra> Xal, it originated
from something awful didn't it? of course it is.
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L160[00:56:05] <asie> Sandra: here's my
tip
L161[00:56:09] <asie> #buildcraft is the
new #minecraftforge
L162[00:56:13] <Izaya> I'd say something
about EVE Online but I think that's called for, considering the way
it's PVP
L163[00:56:15] <Sandra> I gathered.
L164[00:56:17] <asie> both cpw and fry
hang out there and we have sane design discussions there
L165[00:56:19] <Xal> ironically, the least
festering part of ss13 is the somethingawful server, goon
L166[00:56:29] <asie> EVE Online is
intended to be full of drama
L167[00:56:31] <asie> it's part of the
fun
L168[00:56:33] <Sandra> hah.
L169[00:56:33] <asie> but here
L170[00:56:35] <Izaya> exactly
L171[00:57:09] <Sandra> space station 13
is probably also intended to be full of drama as well.
L172[00:57:10] <Xal> the problem with ss13
is i keep coming back
L173[00:57:40] <asie> but yeah
Sandra
L174[00:57:41] <Sandra> when I played it I
was literally like... what do?
L175[00:57:46] <asie> stay with
#buildcraft
L176[00:57:50] <asie> if you need help
with 1.8 rendering ask fry
L177[00:57:55] <asie> if you need help
with 1.8 forge ask cpw
L178[00:57:57] <Xal> haha ss13 ui, good
luck learning it
L179[00:57:58] <asie> fry too
L180[00:57:59] <Sandra> I /am/ staying in
#buildcraft.
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L183[00:58:06] <asie> cpw is generally
good for more interesting questions
L184[00:58:09] <asie> as he has an actual
job
L185[00:58:12] <asie> and little free
time
L186[00:58:15] <asie> fry is there all the
time
L187[00:58:26] <Sandra> I only really
joined #minecraftforge for fun.
L188[00:58:29] <asie> what
L189[00:58:32] <asie> #minecraftforge is
no fun allowed
L190[00:58:58] <Xal> fun is prohibited by
order of adolf- i mean lex
L191[00:59:05] <asie> Xal: no, don't
compare lex to hitler
L192[00:59:09] <asie> please, don't
L193[00:59:17] <asie> i know lex is
annoying but that's just disrespectful
L194[00:59:24] <Xal> ehh, jokes are
jokes
L195[00:59:30] <asie> not when in bad
taste
L196[00:59:34] <Xal> gotta be able to have
a laugh
L197[00:59:49] <Sandra> we can compare
trump to hitler though, he does literally the same thing but to
muslims instead of jews.
L198[00:59:55] <asie> Sandra: wait
L199[01:00:00] <asie> are you comparing
the entirety of poland to hitler?
L200[01:00:06] <asie> well, most of
poland, anyway
L201[01:00:15] <Sandra> ?
L202[01:00:24] <asie> a huge chunk of
polish people share similar opinions, and we're a fair bit closer
to the problem
L203[01:00:29] <asie> it's a bit sad
L204[01:00:47] <Xal> would you rather me
compare lex to stalin
L205[01:00:53] <Xal> or perhaps mao
zedong
L206[01:00:56] <Sandra> but do polish
people have major world power? sadly no.
L207[01:00:57] <Xal> they're all
dictators
L208[01:01:11] <asie> no i mean
L209[01:01:15] <asie> similar as in
anti-muslim opinions
L210[01:01:18] <asie> not
anti-anti-muslim
L211[01:01:26] <Sandra> I know.
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L214[01:02:40] <Sandra> asie, do the
polish people with these opinions... want to put muslims in camps?
want muslims to wear badges stating they're muslims?
L215[01:02:43] <Sandra> trump does.
L216[01:02:55] <asie> well
L217[01:03:02] <asie> we actually have a
trump-like, in the sense of "eccentric radical
right-wing"
L218[01:03:09] <asie> he's been trying to
get to the government for 25 years now.
L219[01:03:14] <Xal> trump just says these
things to capitalize on growing anti-muslim opinions
L220[01:03:21] <Xal> there's no way he
could implement them
L221[01:03:34] <Xal> they're
unconstitional
L222[01:03:42] <asie> politicians make
decisions as to which people to appeal to
L223[01:03:46] <Xal>
unconstitutional*
L224[01:04:28] <Sandra> that's the thing
though..... he actually believes he can do these things.
L225[01:04:46] <Xal> i don't think he
does
L226[01:04:49] <Xal> he's not an
idiot
L227[01:04:57] <Xal> he's trying to win
votes
L228[01:05:00] <Xal> and succeeding in
that
L229[01:05:08] <Xal> any publicity is good
publicity
L230[01:05:09] <asie> eccentric and
radical in order to win a lot of votes for the cost of losing few
votes
L231[01:05:18] <Xal> so any time he does
stupid shit, he gets on the news again
L232[01:05:21] <asie> disappointed people
usually sway towards radical solutions
L233[01:05:28] <asie> especially if
someone claims he has a simple answer for all their problems
L234[01:05:37] <asie> Xal: also,
that
L235[01:05:51] <asie> our eccentric
radical right-wing doesn't really matter that much outside the
Internet
L236[01:05:58] <asie> so he often does
stupid things to force himself into media attention
L237[01:06:10] <Sandra> Xal, are you sure
he's not an idiot? an idiot with a lot of money?
L238[01:06:42] <Xal> he's a wealthy man
and he's not an idiot, because he's got a brilliant strategy for
winning votes, and unfortunately it looks like it's working
L239[01:06:59] <asie> remember
L240[01:07:05] <asie> if people are
disappointed, radicals win votes over
L241[01:07:15] <asie> pre-election
politics are almost always a play
L242[01:07:19] <asie> a play where the
politicians are the actors
L243[01:07:26] <asie> and you're supposed
to go back to the theatre and buy more tickets
L244[01:07:42] <asie> they play roles with
the hope that the most people will enjoy their role
L245[01:07:58] <asie> sadly, being neutral
does not bring radical feelings, with an eccentric personality it's
better to play radical
L246[01:08:04] <asie> and since the
radical left has a nice selection of heroes IIRC
L247[01:08:16] <Sandra> bernie sanders
<3.
L248[01:08:23] <Sandra> in the us.
L249[01:08:28] <Sandra> which I don't even
care about.
L250[01:08:54] <Sandra> because it's
either separated by a huge ocean or a huge continent and then a
huge ocean.
L251[01:09:31] <Xal> don't care either, we
got trudeau and weed
L252[01:09:35] <Xal> good enough for
me
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L255[01:10:35] <Sandra> although...... our
main internet link is a direct line to the US.
L256[01:10:49] <Sandra> which then goes
back to asia.
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L258[01:14:45] <Sandra> why is this a
selling point for a piece of fiction? "No logic OR
physics!"
L259[01:15:30] <Izaya> people are
dumb
L260[01:16:12] <Sandra> i guess so!
L261[01:22:34] <Roadcrosser> hey uh
L262[01:22:38] <Roadcrosser> what's the
wait command?
L263[01:22:40] <Roadcrosser> I can't see
it
L264[01:23:11] <Roadcrosser> or find it,
even
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L266[01:39:06] <Roadcrosser> nvm it was
sleep()
L267[01:39:12] <Roadcrosser> (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ
L268[01:41:53] <Turtle> o/
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L270[01:53:02] <Roadcrosser> \o
L271[02:12:18] <Sandra> \o o/
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L286[03:56:08] <Izaya> so after re-reading
that log
L287[03:56:27] <Izaya> does everyone in
#minecraftforge agree with lex to avoid being banned?
L288[04:02:41] <Sandra> p much,
yeah.
L289[04:02:46] <Sandra> lex is a
dictator.
L290[04:06:48] <Kubuxu> Hmm, lex is a
jerk, nothing new.
L291[04:08:12] <Turtle> What
happened
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L295[04:09:11] <sctjkc01> Heeey, is anyone
around at this hour? I've got a burning question... because it
involves schoolwork.
L296[04:09:41] <sctjkc01> Is there a known
bug regarding file flushing via the io library?
L297[04:09:44] <asie> Kubuxu: all glory to
#buildcraft
L298[04:09:49] <asie> the sane
communications channel
L299[04:09:52] <asie> with cpw and
fry
L300[04:09:57] <Kubuxu> Heh
L301[04:10:14] <Kubuxu> Neutral
ground
L303[04:11:34] <asie> Kubuxu: yeah
L304[04:11:46] <asie> that's where the
official multipart API is being born
L305[04:11:53] <asie> as well as many 1.8
rendering improvement ideas
L306[04:12:13] <Turtle> sctjkc01, I uhh,
don't think that is how github issues are ment to be used, but let
me take a look
L307[04:12:20] <Kubuxu> sctjkc01:
plog:write and plog:flush
L308[04:12:39] <Turtle> ^
L309[04:12:43] <Kubuxu> sctjkc01: in
future use forum for that
L310[04:13:09] <Kubuxu> sctjkc01: in
general Lua has two ways of calling functions to create object
oriented feeling.
L311[04:13:20] <Kubuxu> you can do
API.func(obj, ...)
L312[04:13:42] <sctjkc01> Most of my LUA
has been through Computercraft previously... I wasn't aware that
LUA used colons.
L313[04:14:00] <Kubuxu> or make obj
include API so then you can call, obj.func(obj, ...) which equals
obj:(...)
L314[04:14:12] <Kubuxu> *
obj:func(...)
L315[04:14:23] <Turtle> sctjkc01 that's a
lua thing in general, even in CC
L316[04:14:51] <Kubuxu> calling function
with colon passes table from which you call it as first
argument.
L317[04:15:06] <sctjkc01> <.< I just
never knew colons were a thing in CC either, because I didn't have
much use for it.
L318[04:15:19] <Elizabeth> *Lua
L319[04:15:28] <Elizabeth> It's a name,
not an acronym
L320[04:15:50] <sctjkc01> ...this is also
coming from most code experience with JS, C#... where
this/self/whatever is implied with periods.
L321[04:15:58] <sctjkc01> Sorry,
Elizabeth.
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L324[04:25:58] <Turtle> Something
something, LUA, unwanted acronym
L325[04:26:44] <Elizabeth> something
something *stabs Turtle* something something
L326[04:27:09] <Turtle> :p, I should go
figure out who said it on the lua forums again
L328[04:30:32] <Sandra> sctjkc01, doing
obj:func(...) will make the object's first parameter be called
"self".
L329[04:30:39] <Sandra>
s/object/function
L330[04:30:39] <Kibibyte> <Sandra>
sctjkc01, doing obj:func(...) will make the function's first
parameter be called "self".
L331[04:31:28] <sctjkc01> ...right,
understood.;
L332[04:36:06] <Izaya> hacknet has an
unplayable 800x600 resolution
L333[04:36:08] <Izaya> fun times
L334[04:37:01] <Sandra> Izaya, fix it
hacknet is the best goty.
L335[04:37:18] <Izaya> uh
L336[04:37:25] <Izaya> I can't really fix
that
L337[04:37:33] <Sandra> course you
can.
L338[04:37:50] <Izaya> you want a
go?
L339[04:37:55] <Sandra> it's supposed to
run at full resolution.
L340[04:38:50] <Izaya> uh
L341[04:38:58] <Izaya> so 768x1366?
L342[04:39:08] <Izaya> (yes,
portrait)
L343[04:39:12] <Sandra> ...
L344[04:39:17] <Sandra> don't do
that.
L345[04:39:21] <Izaya> and not let me use
the touch keyboard?
L346[04:39:41] <Izaya> which is a pain
because this tablet has no USB ports
L347[04:39:57] <Sandra> why... are you
playing hacknet of all things on a touch screen?
L348[04:40:03] <Izaya> and I don't own a
bluetooth keyboard
L349[04:40:13] <Sandra> aka a game that is
controlled almost entirely through a console.
L350[04:40:16] <Izaya> so I don't have to
reboot my desktop
L351[04:43:42] <Sandra> hell yes, I'm
voting hacknet as game of the year.
L352[04:51:30] <Sandra> so... apparently
the old beta versions of hacknet contained multiplayer?
L353[04:51:33] <Sandra> :O
L354[04:51:43] <dangranos> whaaat?
L355[04:52:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Xal: You
mean unconsitutional in locking up 120000 Japanese people in death
camps or taking away muh guns unconstitutional?
L356[04:53:12] <DeanIsaKitty> <.< I
screwed up ... again
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L360[04:55:14] <dangranos> ....what?
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L364[05:02:16] <Kubuxu> In cjdns project
we joke that we have fed agent detector, if someone calls it CJDNS
he is a federal agent. :P
L365[05:09:01] <dangranos> :D
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L368[05:30:41] <Izaya> Sandra, I have one
such copy?
L369[05:30:53] <Izaya> it has multiplayer
in the menu anyway
L370[05:31:19] <Sandra> mmm.
L371[05:31:31] <Sandra> yeah, hacknet was
originally multiplayer only.
L372[05:31:50] <Sandra> then they
gradually moved over to single player.
L373[05:32:10] <Sandra> Izaya, if
multiplayer is there, that means you're using the old version
yes?
L374[05:32:15] <Sandra> did you get it
from steam?
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L376[05:33:39] <Izaya> found it on
kickass
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L380[06:21:56] <Turtle> o/
L381[06:23:13] <llolik> Anyone seen this
before on a fresh OC checkout + `gradle runClient`:
"java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Multiple entries with
same key:
appliedenergistics2=FMLMod:appliedenergistics2{rv2-beta-26} and
appliedenergistics2=FMLMod:appliedenergistics2{rv2-beta-26}"
?
L382[06:36:42] <Turtle> You got two copies
of AE2
L383[06:37:55] <Turtle> you sure you got
the api as library and not say a dev version of the entire
mod?
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L385[06:42:16] <llolik> Turtle, I only ran
`gradle build` and then `gradle runClient`. I only have what that
fetched.
L386[06:42:27] <Turtle> From just
forge?
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L402[07:55:19] <Turtle> Damn it. my trains
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L414[09:11:49] <Mimiru> Ok good... my TESR
isn't broken... just the bit where it gets the direction cause all
of that is in blockstates now... which I have no idea how to
use
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L416[09:20:16] *
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L417[09:20:53] <Mimiru> \o/
L418[09:21:01] <Mimiru> I have to write
these damn JSONs too...
L419[09:21:06] <Mimiru> which I have no
clue where to start.
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L421[09:29:15] <Erik3003> How can you
create custom floppy disks?
L422[09:31:12] <Skye> Erik3003: do you
mean custom loot disks or floppy disks to store data?
L423[09:31:52] <Erik3003> Skye: Custom
loot disks
L424[09:32:24] <Skye> I don't know how to
do that, sorry.
L425[09:32:35] *
Skye pings Sangar
L426[09:34:38] <Erik3003> Thanks
nevertheless :)
L427[09:35:41] <Skye> I think it has
something to do with resource packs.
L428[09:35:49] <Skye> I'm not sure
though
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L430[09:37:16] <Erik3003> Ooh, I'll take a
look into the source
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L433[10:06:42] <Mimiru> K... my
blockstates seem to work.. now to figure out the JSONs...
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L438[11:07:13] <Turtle> \o/ this bus has
wifi
L439[11:07:20] <Turtle> very little
legspace though .-.
L440[11:07:31] <vifino> Turtle: Who needs
legs if you got WIFI!
L441[11:07:34] <vifino> :3
L442[11:07:46] <Turtle> I need them to put
my laptop on :p
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L446[11:22:46] <Alissa> Turtle: pfft
laptops
L447[11:22:50] <Alissa> just duct tape it
to your face
L448[11:24:28] <Alissa> ugh my
screen
L449[11:24:30] <Alissa> it's so
clean
L450[11:24:35] <Alissa> can't see anything
properly :<
L451[11:26:26] <dangranos> gaaaaah
L452[11:26:43] <dangranos> so, there is
that gum commercial in "INside Out"
L453[11:26:54] <dangranos> i'm idiot who
tried and listened to full version
L454[11:26:57] <dangranos> multiple
times
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L456[11:33:50] <Inari> whats with people
and goldfish that makes people create crappily animated goldfish
gifs
L458[11:36:39] <dangranos> i thought that
was a tombstone at first
L459[11:36:59] <Mimiru> ._.
L460[11:38:47] <Alissa> "Here lies
OpenFM"
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L464[12:06:21] <Pwootage> Morning~
L465[12:06:28] <Pwootage> s/~/!/
L466[12:06:29] <Kibibyte> <Pwootage>
Morning!
L467[12:07:04] <tim4242> Evening!
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L471[12:18:18] <cobra> is there a way of
enabling only some tile entities as peripherals?
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L473[12:18:49] <cobra> I'm thinking of
enabling some multiblock structures as peripherals, but that will
make every single block connect
L474[12:19:21] <cobra> no, using a
different tile entity for a single block is not an option
here.
L475[12:21:06] <Turtle> look up the
network connection stuff
L476[12:21:25] <Turtle> then only actually
-do- it on the multiblock-block that needs to connect
L477[12:22:15] *
Sio80j accelerates the Sandstorm
L478[12:22:23] <Pwootage> Dudududu
L479[12:22:51] <cobra> so I have to
implement the Environment interface and everything that comes with
it
L480[12:22:59] <Sio80j> Literally, the
song wasn't playing fast enough, so I cranked the speed up to
1.25
L481[12:23:31] <Pwootage> so, in that
case, DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUUDUDUDUDU DU DUD UDUD DUDU DUD UDUDUDU
L482[12:23:36] <Turtle> cobra, yes, but
you can just not-connect to the network I believe
L483[12:23:45] <Pwootage> (idk how to
write fast text)
L484[12:24:21] <Sio80j> Write in a font
that slurs all the letters together? Idk if that exists
L485[12:25:18] <Pwootage> Probably?
idk
L486[12:25:52] <Sio80j> I cranked the
speed up to 1.5 for even more Sandstorm
L487[12:27:06] <Turtle> cobra, you can
-totally- implement an optional node
L488[12:27:28] <Turtle> So yeah, just do
that, but, why can't you use a 2nd tileentity?
L489[12:29:13] <cobra> because that would
be a total mess?
L490[12:31:01] <Turtle> no?
L491[12:31:18] <Turtle> Just inherit your
base multiblock tileentity and add just the code for OC
integration?
L492[12:31:41] <Pwootage> I really need to
learn more about the current strategies for multiblocks
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L495[12:41:08] <Sangar> o/
L496[12:42:31] <Pwootage> \o
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L501[13:06:37] <Sio80j> Hi
Snagar/Sangar
L502[13:08:00] <asie> Sangar: i was
thinking about computer mods
L503[13:08:17] <asie> and i might make a
mod which goes for the IBM 360 aesthetic
L504[13:11:32] <Skye> ???
L505[13:12:18] <gamax92> ???
L506[13:12:36] <Sio80j> ???
L507[13:12:43] <Elizabeth> ???
L508[13:13:19] <Pwootage> ¿¿¿
L509[13:13:45] <Pwootage> ⸮⸮⸮
L510[13:13:46] <vifino> ???
L511[13:13:49] <Alissa> !!!
L512[13:13:56] <gamax92> Alissa ruined
it
L513[13:13:59] <Alissa> yep
L514[13:14:05] <vifino> Alissa ruined
everything.
L515[13:14:10] <Alissa> yep
L516[13:14:14] <Sio80j> I NEED MORE DARUDE
SANDSTORM!
L517[13:14:14] <Pwootage> ;-;
L518[13:14:23] <Pwootage> Dudududu dududu
dudududududududududu
L519[13:14:44] <gamax92> vifino: can we
have COW for DEADBEEF?
L520[13:14:55] <vifino> The esolang?
L521[13:14:57] <gamax92> yas
L522[13:15:07] <vifino> Uh, poke me
later.
L523[13:15:12] <Pwootage> How many
languages does mr. beef support?
L524[13:15:16] *
gamax92 pokes vifino, it's later
L525[13:15:17] <vifino> I'll maybe
implement it.
L526[13:15:30] <gamax92> okie
L527[13:15:40] <vifino> Pwootage: 1337
languages.
L528[13:15:55] <Pwootage> vifino: oh man
you can't add COW, 1338 is just a bad number
L529[13:16:06] <Pwootage> (1339 might be
ok, does it support BF?)
L530[13:16:06] ***
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L531[13:16:18] <Alissa> i think it
does
L532[13:16:21] <vifino> Pwootage: i
counted something twice, should add up to 1337.
L533[13:16:26] <Alissa> vifino: make it
support C
L534[13:16:28] <Alissa> :3
L535[13:16:30] <vifino> Pwootage: And
yesh, it does.
L536[13:16:42] <vifino> #tinycore
gcc
L537[13:16:43] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Error
response from daemon: client and server don't have same version
(client : 1.21, server: 1.18)
L538[13:16:48] <vifino> welp.
L539[13:17:23] <vifino> wait, what machine
does it actually run on...
L540[13:18:15] <vifino> #tinycore
gcc
L541[13:18:23] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > sh:
gcc: not found
L542[13:18:28] <Alissa> #tinycore cc
L543[13:18:34] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > sh: cc:
not found
L544[13:18:44] <vifino> #arch pacman
L545[13:18:46] <Pwootage> gamax92:
suspicious
L546[13:18:46] <Elizabeth> #tinycore uname
-a
L547[13:18:54] <gamax92> Pwootage: look at
the file size
L548[13:19:00] <Daiyousei> #tinycore
logout
L549[13:19:05] <vifino> #echo test
L550[13:19:05] <|0xDEADBEEF|> >
test
L551[13:19:06] <Pwootage> 8.3 EB lol
L552[13:19:08] <Sio80j> Should I include
IC2 and GregTech in my modpack?
L553[13:19:20] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > error:
no operation specified (use -h for help)
L554[13:19:26] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > sh:
logout: not found
L555[13:19:27] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > Linux
bbff57a02a66 4.0.5-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Jun 6 18:37:49 CEST
2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux
L556[13:19:28] <vifino> there we go.
L557[13:19:40] <Pwootage> I hate gregtech,
personally
L558[13:19:48] <Daiyousei> gregtech is an
alright mod
L559[13:19:51] <Daiyousei> but the author
is an ass
L560[13:19:58] <Daiyousei> unless he has
changed
L561[13:19:59] <Daiyousei> idk
L562[13:20:06] <Pwootage> gamax92: what
would happen if I accepted that? I don't even know
L563[13:20:19] <gamax92> Pwootage: nothing
because it's not a legit request
L564[13:20:28] <gamax92> the ip is that of
example.com
L565[13:20:49] <vifino> gamax92: Are you
toying around with xcc again? :P
L566[13:20:59] <gamax92> yesh
L567[13:21:00] <vifino> er, dcc
L568[13:21:05] <vifino> or something
L569[13:21:05] <Pwootage> gamax92: heh,
didn't notice since it came through my bouncer in a slightly odd
way
L570[13:21:15] <gamax92> oh that
L571[13:21:43] <gamax92> there's a bouncer
plugin that will reformat dcc so you can download it from the
bouncer or something like that
L572[13:22:00] <Pwootage> I am pretty sure
I have my znc set up to work with dcc, do you have a legit file to
send me?
L573[13:22:13] <gamax92> if it supports
passive then yes
L574[13:22:17] <vifino> gamax92: I'm
waiting for my 18446744.00 TB.
L575[13:22:26] <gamax92> (I can't
portforward)
L576[13:22:31] <vifino> aw
L577[13:22:34] <Pwootage> I'll check if it
does
L578[13:23:44] <Sio80j> Time to update my
server to see if the lag gets killed once and for all
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L580[13:24:43] <Pwootage> gamax92: I got a
connection refused, idk if that's my end or yours (I'm currently
using bouncedcc znc module)
L581[13:25:12] <gamax92> oh probably mine
... I'm also behind a bouncer
L582[13:25:19] <gamax92> and have done
nothing to configure that
L583[13:26:51] <Sangar> asie,
multiblock?
L584[13:28:54] <Pwootage> gamax92: let me
know if that works
L585[13:28:59] <asie> Sangar:
possibly!
L586[13:29:41] <Sangar> cool!
L587[13:29:57] <Pwootage> I really should
flesh out my multiblock mass-processing mod idea
L588[13:30:14] <Pwootage> so I can build
big stuff without lagging horribly or triggering RF inflation
L589[13:30:18] <gamax92> didn't really
seem to do much
L590[13:30:53] <Pwootage> gamax92: eh,
whatever, dcc is sort of weird anyway
L591[13:31:47] <gamax92> oh, timed
out
L592[13:32:24] <Pwootage> I killed my end
so that might be why it timed out... if it was trying to connect to
pwootage.com that would have not worked, although that IP seems
correct
L593[13:32:29] <Pwootage> (I use
cloudflare on pwootage.com itself)
L594[13:36:58] <Magik6k> ~w internet
L596[13:38:19] <gamax92> Pwootage: I know
at home I have to force my ip, normal mode gives my dhcp router
address which obviously won't work, and detect from internet gives
some really weird bullshit address that i don't even.
L597[13:42:14] <nxsupert> o/
L598[13:42:54] <Pwootage> /o
L599[13:43:35] <Pwootage> (he's
upside-down, not holding his hand away)
L601[13:46:54] <nxsupert> I've decided I
am going to attempt to write an OS for OC.
L602[13:47:03] <Pwootage> nxsupert: want
to help write the javascript one? :D
L603[13:47:13] <nxsupert> Umm.
L604[13:47:30] <nxsupert> Maybe.
L605[13:47:44] <nxsupert> We probably have
very diffrent ideas for OS's though.
L606[13:48:05] <Pwootage> Probably, mine's
probably going to be RX-based
L607[13:48:26] <nxsupert> RX?
L608[13:50:49] <Pwootage> Observable
pattern for events
L609[13:51:07] <nxsupert> Umm.
L610[13:52:00] <nxsupert> Explain?
L611[13:52:11] <Pwootage> Uh, an
observable is basically an infnite stream
L612[13:52:23] <Pwootage> you can register
callbacks to listen for new elements and call map/filter and
stuff
L613[13:52:45] <nxsupert> So basically it
is event driven?
L614[13:52:58] <Pwootage> Yeah
L615[13:53:01] <Pwootage> which is
javascripty
L616[13:53:23] <nxsupert> Well. I was
actually thinking of making an event driven OS too.
L617[13:54:33] <Pwootage> I'm still
implementing the filesystem (and bootstrapping it into my require()
implementation)
L618[13:54:35] <nxsupert> But also stream
based.
L619[13:55:45] <nxsupert> My idea was to
have everything being a "Node" programs , components etc
etc.
L620[13:56:20] <nxsupert> And you could
connect nodes together.
L621[13:57:10] <Pwootage> So a
microkernel, basically?
L622[13:57:40] <nxsupert> More or
less.
L623[13:59:01] <Pwootage> The big problem
in javascript is you don't have isolated contexts, without engine
support
L624[14:07:01] <Sio80j> Hi nxsupert
L625[14:07:12] <nxsupert>
Kon'nichiwa
L626[14:07:17] <Sio80j> How are you
today?
L627[14:07:25] <nxsupert> Good.
L628[14:07:28] <Sio80j> :)
L629[14:07:35] <Sio80j> I have a quick
question for everyone
L630[14:07:41] <Sio80j> Blood Magic? Yes?
no?
L631[14:07:53] <nxsupert> No :P
L632[14:07:58] <Sio80j> why?
L633[14:08:05] <DeanIsaKitty> Always. We
are talkin RL here, aren't we?
L634[14:08:17] <nxsupert> It is a little
bit overpowered.
L635[14:08:35] <Sio80j> no,
DeanIsaKitty
L636[14:08:42] <DeanIsaKitty> yes,
Sio80j
L637[14:08:49] <Sio80j> no
L638[14:08:51] <DeanIsaKitty> yes
L639[14:08:52] <Sio80j> not IRL
L640[14:09:05] <DeanIsaKitty> oh...
._.
L641[14:10:12] <Sio80j> Magic isn't real
in real life
L642[14:10:21] <Alissa> lies
L643[14:10:27] *
Sio80j pulls the ripcord
L644[14:10:31] <Sio80j> I eject from that
conversation
L645[14:10:43] <Pwootage> My only problem
with blood magic is to get an auto-power source going involves a
large number of entities (laggy)
L646[14:10:51] <Sio80j> true
L647[14:10:53] <Pwootage> it has some
really fun mechanics
L648[14:10:59] <Sio80j> OH WHY
L649[14:11:09] <Sio80j> MY ENHANCED CHARM
OF TELEPORTATION WAS BEAUTIFUL????
L650[14:11:12] <Sio80j> NOW IT IS
UGLY
L651[14:12:40] *
Sio80j checks out EnderIO 2.3
L652[14:12:42] *
Sio80j approves
L653[14:12:50] <Pwootage> How new is
2.3?
L654[14:12:57] <gamax92> came out two
minutes ago
L655[14:13:10] <gamax92> very
untested
L656[14:13:39] <Pwootage> WHat's
new?
L657[14:14:31] <Sangar> oc conduits
\o/
L658[14:14:36] <Pwootage> (I specifically
excluded ender io from my current pack, not because I don't like it
but to force me to try new mods)
L659[14:15:18] <Pwootage> Yeah,
multi-pipes are awesome, and I almost added ender io for just
that
L660[14:15:55] <Sio80j> oc conduits are
cool
L661[14:16:01] <Sio80j> well, look
cool
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L663[14:16:44] <gamax92> Sangar: hows
tis-3d
L664[14:17:51] <Sio80j> I think I know how
to upgrade my pack to its "final form"
L665[14:18:12] <Sangar> gamax92, working
on the manual
L666[14:20:07] <Sio80j> I shall include
Blood Magic and IC2+Greggy
L667[14:21:04] <Pwootage> I used to love
IC2, idk what happened but I don't anymore... It's a good mod
L668[14:21:22] <Pwootage> Maybe it's the
fact it doesn't use RF and isn't compatible with it like pretty
much everything else is
L669[14:21:32] <Pwootage> (or wasn't, at
least)
L670[14:21:50] <Sio80j> yeah
L671[14:21:57] <Sio80j> Draconic armor
looks amazing
L672[14:24:16] <Pwootage> I like the
particle generator in that mod, but the rest of that mod is pretty
OP (and very rf-inflation-y, for better or worse)
L673[14:24:26] <Pwootage> (fun, don't get
me wrong, but sort of replaces everything else)
L674[14:24:51] <Turtle> tbh, that's only a
problem because a fuckton-majority of the RF thingies use linear
scaling
L675[14:25:35] <Turtle> (Which, is sane,
since power gen usually scales linearly too, to make 'old'
generators not completely useless)
L676[14:26:27] <Pwootage> So really,
everything should be consistent, and linear is the standard
(perhaps the better one?)
L677[14:26:42] <Turtle> I'm going to go
with no
L678[14:26:55] <Turtle> exponential power
generation is nice, but it requires exponential cost
L679[14:27:01] <Sio80j> Draconic Armor is
nigh on unbeatable without witchery
L680[14:27:03] <Turtle> which is a
problem, since everybody hates microcrafting
L681[14:27:10] <Sio80j> which gives me an
idea for my pack.....
L682[14:27:25] <Pwootage> Turtle: hence,
AE2/logistics pipes/other crafty mods
L683[14:27:29] <Turtle> yep
L684[14:27:31] *
Sandra dislikes EIO conduits in every way. heh.
L685[14:27:42] <Turtle> I personally still
might use fucktons of microcrafting to simply enforce the need of
an autocrafter
L686[14:27:44] <gamax92> I do hate
OpenComputers
L687[14:27:48] <gamax92> I mean
microcrafting.
L688[14:27:52] <Turtle> lol
L689[14:28:03] <Pwootage> Sandra: oh?
why?
L690[14:28:26] <Turtle> Like, at one side,
microcrafting is the embodyment of lazy game design, on the other
hand, You can't make a spaceship by slapping some iron ingots on
eachother
L691[14:28:34] <Sandra> they're both: More
powerful than other transport methods, AND can all be put in one
block with no penalties.
L692[14:28:34] <gamax92> sure you
can
L693[14:28:45] <Pwootage> Turtle: I
actually really like AE2 for a number of reasons, plus it feels
pretty balanced
L694[14:29:05] <Turtle> yup
L695[14:29:07] <Pwootage> Sandra: that's
fair, I suppose. I (sort of) want to try a pack by you sometime,
see how it works out
L696[14:29:24] <Dashkal> Don't be too
sure. "Steve" starts with the magic to punch trees and
makes picks by slapping three ingots on a stick. It's one of the
core assumptions of the game (the other being the 'gravity')
L697[14:29:25] <Sandra> I plan to make one
at some point.
L698[14:29:30] <Pwootage> Turtle: mostly
because I like to collect lots of stuff and AE2 solves that problem
much less obnoxiously
L699[14:29:33] <Turtle> AE2s microcrafting
provides a nice gameplay mechanic of automating it besides 'config
crafting machine from nei'
L700[14:30:01] <gamax92> I'm reminded of
factorio a little bit, holy shit all the automation plants and
transport belts and item inserters and tunnels crossing
eachother
L701[14:30:02] <Sandra> Unpopular Opinion:
I like AE2 a lot, but only the channeled form.
L702[14:30:27] <Sandra> and without ME P2P
tunnels - ME.
L703[14:30:27] <Pwootage> Sandra: Explain
what you mean by channeled form, please
L704[14:30:30] <Sio80j> I've never used
the unchanneled form, so I just like AE2
L705[14:30:44] <Sandra> I mean, the form
of AE2 without channels disabled.
L706[14:30:52] <Pwootage> I didn't know
you could turn them off
L707[14:30:52] <Pwootage> huh
L708[14:31:02] <Pwootage> I don't use p2p
personally
L709[14:31:28] <Sandra> neither do
I!
L710[14:31:36] <Turtle> P2P is pretty
nice, ME P2P is cheaty
L711[14:32:18] <Dashkal> Meh, ME with
channels and no P2P ends up worth less to me than just making chest
warehouses.
L712[14:32:43] <Dashkal> The difficulty of
using it as an automation solution quickly exceeds just not
automating at all
L713[14:32:56] <Pwootage> Sandra: I sort
of want to work with you on my linear scaling
mass-processing/energy generation mod idea, when I finally flesh
that out
L714[14:33:19] <Pwootage> Dashkal: The
organization is worth it for me
L715[14:33:29] <Sandra> Pwootage, that
sounds neat, 100% down for that.
L716[14:33:35] <Sio80j> Dashkal, I just
use it for storage, organization, and exporting/importing
materials
L717[14:33:36] <Dashkal> Well, I'd use it
as a deep chest, but you can do that (almost) without a single
cable.
L718[14:33:48] <Sio80j> for Autocrafting,
I pass it off to EIO crafters and conduits
L719[14:34:05] <Dashkal> Basically
channels are irelevant if you use it only as a deep chest.
L720[14:34:12] <Sio80j> And the crafter's
insane energy consumption can be sated by my DRACONIC
REACTORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
L721[14:34:26] <Pwootage> (or a number of
other reactors)
L722[14:35:15] <Dashkal> Heh, I can't get
to that damn thing. I seem to be in a build where the chaos dragon
is unkillable
L723[14:35:30] <Dashkal> No towers up,
regens faster than I can deal damage.
L724[14:35:33] <Sandra> I, personally,
think the AE2 crafting system is at odds with how the rest of the
mod's designed.
L725[14:35:46] <Sandra> I plan to either
fork or make an addon to fix it.
L726[14:35:57] <Pwootage> Sandra: what's
the fix, out of curiosity?
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L728[14:37:10] <Sandra> well a simple fix
is to make the crafting be able to be bridged across
networks.
L729[14:37:29] <Dashkal> I'd love to see
that, but... uh, I had a look at that code. glwt
L730[14:37:40] <Sandra> if there's a valid
CPU on the inside network, the crafting system could be
exposed.
L731[14:37:50] <Sandra> it'd probably be
simple enough to addon to do.
L732[14:38:37] <Sandra> all I'd need would
be to expose the crafting recipes (obtainable through the terminal)
as patterns.
L733[14:40:06] <Sandra> of course, what
that involves is another question, as I've not really looked at the
code.
L734[14:40:24] <Sandra> anyway, I'm
off.
L735[14:41:38] <Pwootage> Sandra: I'll
send you a link later for this mod idea for your feedback
L736[14:44:18] <Sio80j> This stinks
L737[14:44:28] <Sio80j> my automation
center is so intense, it is lagging my server
L738[14:44:36] <Sio80j> At least I know
what to fix now :D
L739[14:44:56] <alekso56> yeah, buy a
better server.
L740[14:45:00] <alekso56> :P
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L747[14:46:57] <Sio80j> It already has 2.5
GB of RAM
L748[14:47:09] <Sio80j> Buying more starts
to get expensive
L749[14:47:28] <alekso56> i thought that
was the minimum for forge? .-.
L750[14:48:04] <Dashkal> Unless forge is
doing something /really/ arcane, the JVM will take as much ram as
you can throw at it (in 64 bit)
L751[14:48:18] <Dashkal> The key is you
need to give it only what it needs, or GC becomes an issue.
L752[14:48:45] <alekso56> i just throw
32gb at it since that usually works.
L753[14:49:04] <Dashkal> You can
definitely get a forge server running under 2 gigs
L754[14:49:09] <Sio80j> Well, I don't
actually own my server
L755[14:49:19] <Sio80j> So 32 GB would
cost a lot
L756[14:49:21] <Dashkal> I ran a kitchen
sink on 1.25 for a couple years
L757[14:49:28] <Dashkal> 2 gig plan
hosted
L758[14:49:30] <alekso56> 8gb is livable
tho
L759[14:49:42] <Sio80j> I ran my old
server for 1.5 GB, but it could only have like 4 people on at a
time
L760[14:49:56] <Sio80j> Once BTM arrives,
I shall upgrade
L761[14:50:03] <Dashkal> Mine was limited
to about that as well. But then, that's how many in my circle of
friends cared to play so it worked well.
L762[14:50:27] <Dashkal> We've moved on
since then. I have arbratrary amounts available. But I still run
the server on 2.5 or so
L763[14:52:42] <Pwootage> Mine has 4gb
atm, but it's a server designed for <10 people
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L765[14:56:42] ***
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L767[15:11:54] <MichiBot> Thu Dec 10
15:11:18 CST 2015 @SangarWasTaken: Ported the OpenComputers manual
into TIS-3D and reskinned it to fit the mod a bit better!
https://t.co/ydZeu8R0ZV
L768[15:12:33] <alekso56> neat
MichiBot
L769[15:12:57] <Sangar> it just needs to
also show an ascii-art of attached images now :P
L770[15:13:31] <Pwootage> Any
mathematitions here want to help me invent equations to represent
the mechanics behind the mod I'm working on? :D
L771[15:13:44] <Pwootage> (I'm inventing
Minecraft physics of redstone)
L772[15:13:55] <Sangar> oh dear
L773[15:14:28] <Pwootage> Sangar: I like
the paper look
L774[15:14:54] <Sangar> glad to hear
it!
L775[15:15:28] <Sangar> i'm not really
happy with the tabs / bookmarks
L776[15:15:37] <Sangar> will see if i can
redo that in nicer
L777[15:15:58] <gamax92> Sangar: dat
font
L778[15:16:14] <Sangar> it's the one used
on the modules already :P
L779[15:16:19] <Sangar> reusing what i can
\o/
L780[15:16:30] <gamax92> it's really not
that good though ...
L781[15:16:51] <Sangar> yeah well. i might
do a higher res one for the manual.
L782[15:17:07] <Sangar> for the modules...
not really, don't want to bump the resolution any more than
that
L783[15:17:08] <gamax92> you could atleast
just do 3x5
L784[15:17:16] <Sangar> if you have a
better 3x4 or 3x3 font, lemme know
L785[15:17:29] <Sangar> not really, way
too few lines would fit on the exec module then
L786[15:18:56] <gamax92> well i mean, from
that screenshot, JG? LOOP, what is the ?
L787[15:19:13] <Sangar> z
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L790[15:22:11] <asie> oh my
L791[15:22:12] <Kubuxu> Nice
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L793[15:28:03] <Pwootage> Magik6k: I think
your website is blocked on the school network, lol
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L796[15:30:10] <Magik6k> Pwootage, wat,
how?
L797[15:30:30] <Magik6k> [it may not be
whitelisted]
L798[15:30:46] <Pwootage> Magik6k: idk,
but my ssl connection is being interrupted, and that's usually the
sign of a connection being blocked. I'll take a look at it when I'm
on my phone's network on the train in a little bit :P
L799[15:30:56] <alekso56> probably blocked
under illegal file sharing. xd
L800[15:31:14] <Sangar> Magik6k,
awesome
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L802[15:31:59] <Kubuxu> Sangar: only
problem we are having is console buffering on the Bash side.
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L807[15:38:46] <flappy> Sangar: Will there
be a print-out pdf of the tis-3d manual perchance?
L808[15:39:58] <Sangar> flappy, well, it's
backed by Markdown, so that wouldn't be so hard, actually :P
L809[15:46:27] <Inari> any new tis3d pics
i missed?
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L816[16:01:32] <Sandra> Sangar: i'm
interested, what's your day job?
L817[16:01:53] <Sangar> Sandra, game
dev
L818[16:02:15] <Sangar> Inari, only the
wip manual
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L824[16:10:55] <Sangar> gamax92, no
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L827[16:11:00] <gamax92> phew
L828[16:12:11] <Pwootage> I wish I could
use more scala at my job
L829[16:13:43] <vifino> I wish I could use
all the tools I made that I think would be useful.
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L831[16:13:49] <vifino> Oh wait, I
can!
L832[16:13:51] <vifino> \o/
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L848[16:29:08] <Inari> hm
L849[16:29:14] <Inari> i wonder if thers a
goo donline course on quantum emchanics xD
L850[16:29:16] <nxsupert> o/
L851[16:30:03] <Turtle> Inari: "This
math works until someone stares at it slightly longer than the last
guy"
L852[16:30:15] <Inari> Turtle: why would
the math not work then? XD
L853[16:30:34] <nxsupert> Here is an easy
explanation of quantum mechanics : "If you think you
understand quantum mechanics , you don't understand quantum
mechanics."
L854[16:30:57] <Inari> nxsupert: thats not
very helpful :D
L855[16:31:27] <Inari> oh neat MIT has a
videoo lecture thingy on quantum physics (including quantum
mecahnics apparenlty)
L856[16:33:13] <Inari> nxsupert: im trying
to understand how the systems of the world create B from A, seems
the best starting point is the lowest we go, which appears to be
quantum mechanics
L857[16:34:34] <nxsupert> Depends. Do you
want to know how it works on an atomic level , or an elementary
particle level?
L858[16:35:15] <Inari> both :P i wanna
know how quarks become atoms and how atoms become compounds and how
compounds b ecome macroscopic matter
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L860[16:35:46] <nxsupert> You don't need
to look into quantum mechanics for that.
L861[16:35:51] <nxsupert> Well , You do a
bit.
L862[16:36:08] <Inari> well i need to
understand the basis of what quarks are to understand how they
behave i'd think, and to replicate that behavior
L863[16:36:28] <gamax92> Inari: quarker
oats
L864[16:36:32] <nxsupert> Umm. I know a
bit about how quarks and stuff work.
L865[16:36:34] <Turtle> TLDR: They stick
together because color magic.
L866[16:36:46] <Inari> Turtle: haha
L867[16:36:58] <Inari> my end goal is to
write simulations of that XD
L868[16:37:03] <Turtle> 'rainbow magic'
would've been funnier, but, meh
L869[16:37:16] <nxsupert> There are 17
elementary particles , split into 4 groups.
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L871[16:37:38] <nxsupert> Quarks , Leptons
, Vector Bosons and Scalar Bosons.
L872[16:37:40] <Inari> nxsupert: why 17,
why 4, how 'are' in the first place? xD
L874[16:38:43] <nxsupert> All the
elementary particles are effectively points of energy. They are
defined by the properties mass , charge and spin and by their
interactions with other particles.
L875[16:38:57] <nxsupert> The Bosons are
effectivly and
L876[16:39:08] <Turtle> ^ Slight addition,
some people will argue that there's going to be 18, counting the
currently still hypothetical graviton
L877[16:39:12] <Turtle> but those people
are weirdos
L878[16:39:19] <Inari> Turtle: well that
tells me what things there are, but it doesnt explain the actual
things :D
L879[16:39:29] <nxsupert> The bosons are
effectively the particle equivalent for forces in fields.
L880[16:39:49] <alekso56> Inari: are you
good with math? because you are going to need a lot of it.
L881[16:40:01] <Inari> alekso56: so-so :P
but well, one cna learn
L882[16:40:22] <Inari> my prime issue with
math is all the incomplete and inefficinet things haha
L883[16:40:32] <nxsupert> Luckily I have
to do particle physics as part of my physics A-Level.
L884[16:40:40] <Turtle> yeah, inefficiency
is going to be a big deal
L885[16:40:41] <alekso56> no numbers
involved usually, mostly letters and premade formulas
L886[16:40:55] <Turtle> because elementary
particle interactions are completely fucked
L887[16:40:57] <Inari> like finding a
global minimum
L888[16:40:57] <alekso56> and
inefficency
L889[16:40:58] <Inari> fun stuff
L890[16:41:39] <nxsupert> Elementary
particles are a bit weird as they can be formed from just
energy.
L891[16:41:55] <Inari> i wondered if maybe
- if the universe was really based on math - there would be global
minimums in some systems but we can'T utilize them as their range
is too small to stay in it
L892[16:41:57] <alekso56> well, some are
just energy.
L893[16:42:30] <nxsupert> Tbh apart from
wave-particle duality , you don't really need any quantum physics
to understand what things are made of.
L894[16:42:36] <Inari> i seem to recall
something on there being X of something because you need that many
but i cant recall the exact sentence XD
L895[16:42:41] <alekso56> ehhh, math is
made to simplify the universe..
L896[16:43:03] <Inari> alekso56: i
agree
L897[16:43:08] <Inari> but some claim the
universe itself is made of math
L898[16:43:09] <Inari> *shrug*
L899[16:43:30] <Inari> usually the same
that calim maht is a discovery, not something we made
L900[16:43:46] <Sandra> math is a way to
explain the universe.
L901[16:44:00] <nxsupert> 99% of the maths
you learn in school is utterly useless and you have to uses
calculus to figure stuff out.
L902[16:44:03] <Inari> nxsupert: well i
need a lowest point to program from :D
L903[16:44:05] <Sandra> it's something we
invented, to explain everything we have.
L904[16:44:25] <Inari> Sandra: yeah as
said, i agree xD
L905[16:44:37] <Sandra> well it's useless
unless your goal in life is to become a physicist or a
mathematician, generally.
L906[16:44:49] <nxsupert> Irani, to
simulate that sort of stuff is , well , near impossible simply
because we don't know how a lot of it works.
L907[16:44:49] <Turtle> tbh, if we figure
out the answer to the simulation hypothesis, we'll have worse shit
than 'is math real' to deal with :P
L908[16:45:11] <Sandra> of course math is
real.
L909[16:45:18] <Inari> nxsupert: maybe you
can figure out how it works by simulating it ;o
L910[16:45:19] <Sandra> it's as real as
this IRC channel.
L911[16:45:19] <alekso56> faaaake
L912[16:45:35] <Inari> nxsupert: why you
no tab-complete
L913[16:45:43] <nxsupert> ?
L914[16:45:56] <Inari> In<tab>
L915[16:45:56] <alekso56> heh the
irani
L916[16:46:01] <nxsupert> Ooops
L917[16:46:20] <nxsupert> I may or may not
be using a dumb terminal :P
L918[16:46:23] <Inari> :p
L919[16:46:56] <nxsupert> But anyway. you
can't really simulate it because quantum mechanics keeps on getting
in the way.
L920[16:46:59] <Inari> but yeah, if you
dont know how something works, one way is to tkae what you know,
make it a model, fill in the gaps till things work
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L922[16:47:15] <Inari> in what way?
L923[16:47:32] <nxsupert> Umm.
L924[16:47:47] <nxsupert> Thats rather
hard to explain.
L925[16:47:52] <Inari> xD
L926[16:48:30] <nxsupert> It is to do with
the uncertainty principle and the fact that particles can just
randomly teleport and such.
L927[16:49:20] <Sandra> nxsupert: are you
using a dumb terminal really?
L928[16:49:26] <nxsupert> No :P
L929[16:49:52] <Inari> uncertainty
principle shouldnt even matter in a simulation i'D think?
L930[16:50:07] <nxsupert> You'd think so.
But no.
L931[16:50:15] <Inari> how so o.ô
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L933[16:51:17] <Inari> "Thus, the
uncertainty principle actually states a fundamental property of
quantum systems, and is not a statement about the observational
success of current technology" hm
L934[16:51:18] <DeanIsaKitty> Turtle:
Wasn't the last result something like "we are pretty sure that
we have no idea?"
L935[16:51:19] <Inari> interesting
;o
L936[16:52:34] <nxsupert> Basically , on a
quantum scale , things are not predefined and then observed. They
are defined upon observing. The location of a particle does not
exist until the particle is observed.
L937[16:52:40] <Inari> nxsupert: i wonder
if it has been researched how to build system like reality, and
specifically on min/max datapoints (i.e. how many fundamental
particles are needed to achieve what we see at macroscopic level,
how many layers are needed, etc)
L938[16:53:04] <Inari> nxsupert: i thouhgt
it exists within a certain set of possible locations?
L939[16:53:42] <nxsupert> Yes. Just those
positions encompass the entire universe.
L940[16:53:53] <Inari> sometimes quantum
stuff makes it easy to think its the modern pholgiston xD
L941[16:54:16] <nxsupert> It is possible
for the sun to just simply teleport to another galaxy.
L942[16:54:25] <nxsupert> Extremely
unlikely. But possible.
L943[16:54:26] <Inari> uh
L944[16:54:29] <Inari> how would that
work
L945[16:54:37] <Inari> what happened to
nothing be faster tahn light
L946[16:54:37] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari:
Quantum physics.
L947[16:54:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari:
Quantum physics.
L948[16:54:50] <Inari> :P
L949[16:54:58] <Inari> well last i heard
even quantum stuff cant break that
L950[16:55:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Well....
no
L951[16:55:33] <nxsupert> Nothing can move
though SPACE faster than the speed of light.
L952[16:55:43] <Inari> well teleporting
kinda implies doing so
L953[16:55:44] <DeanIsaKitty> If something
has no mass in will also in a relativistic universe be as fast as
light with the theoretical potential of being faster.
L954[16:56:00] <DeanIsaKitty> And quantum
physics fucks even that up.
L955[16:56:10] <nxsupert> That doesn't
prevent things moving though something other than space faster than
the speed of light.
L956[16:56:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Or space
itself for that matter.
L957[16:56:25] <Inari> hm it'll be
interesting to see what quanutm physics is once we're mostly done
wiht it
L958[16:56:25] <nxsupert>
s/though/through
L959[16:56:26] <Kibibyte> <nxsupert>
That doesn't prevent things moving through something other than
space faster than the speed of light.
L960[16:57:00] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: I
don't think such a thing as "mostly done with quantum
physics" exists.
L961[16:57:16] <nxsupert> Due to quantum
physics , there is only really 1 law we are confident about. The
second law of thermodynamics.
L962[16:57:18] <Inari> nxsupert: theres
something outside of space in which things can move quicker tahn
light and enter into it from space and exit into sapce from it?
:o
L963[16:57:20] <DeanIsaKitty> I don't
think that knowledge has a limit either.
L964[16:57:44] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty: sure,
but we mostly know how pens work on a macroscopic level, no?
L965[16:58:00] <Inari> and part of that
was "wonder if it'll turn out to be phlogiston"
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L967[16:59:06] <DeanIsaKitty> nxsupert:
Uhm, the second law of thermodynamics is that entrophy will always
increase. And even according to the big crunch theory that is not
true.
L968[17:00:06] <Inari> maybe i should just
tinker about and see if i can create such systesm XD
L969[17:00:16] <DeanIsaKitty> The big
crunch one has basically two possibilities for entrophy: a) it
increases over time and time will flow backwards at some point b)
its simply false since a singularity has an entrophy of 0.
L970[17:02:15] <Inari> i thought big
crunch has been disproven
L971[17:02:38] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari: Has
it? Citiation needed.
L972[17:03:22] <DeanIsaKitty> I honestly
didn't keep up with the big crunch theory but last time I checked
it was still somewhat respected.
L973[17:03:25] <Inari> Recent experimental
evidence (namely the observation of distant supernovae as standard
candles, and the well-resolved mapping of the cosmic microwave
background) has led to speculation that the expansion of the
universe is not being slowed down by gravity but rather
accelerating. However, since the nature of the dark energy that is
postulated to drive the acceleration is unknown, it is still
L974[17:03:26] <Inari> possible (though
not observationally supported as of today) that it might eventually
reverse its developmental path and cause a collapse
L975[17:03:34] <Inari> seems jjust
sepculation
L976[17:03:34] <Inari> :p
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L978[17:04:33] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari:
Please give me a theory that is not basically speculation.
L979[17:04:57] <DeanIsaKitty> Our records
do not go far enough to register any mayor change in the universe.
We know nothing.
L980[17:07:52] <Inari> *shrug* i just
heard about it in passing haha
L981[17:08:29] <Sangar> i'm off o/
L982[17:08:41] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar:
noooooooo :(
L984[17:12:07] <Inari> also
L985[17:12:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari:
missing "does not apply"
L986[17:12:21] <Inari> forces affect an
area around their origin, no?
L987[17:12:27] <Inari> DeanIsaKitty:
?
L988[17:12:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari:
?
L989[17:13:15] <Inari> what would
"does not apply" mean
L990[17:13:20] <Inari> you do not read?
:P
L991[17:14:07] <DeanIsaKitty> Inari:
"Language does not work that way" <.<
L992[17:14:15] <Inari> does not work what
way
L993[17:14:25] <DeanIsaKitty>
Nevermind
L994[17:14:30] <Inari> ~.~
L995[17:16:49] <CompanionCube> what about
the principle of the conservation of energy
L996[17:16:54] <CompanionCube> does
quantum physics fuck that up
L997[17:17:21] <DeanIsaKitty>
CompanionCube: No, but either string theory or multiverse theory
does so pretty badly. Choose your pick.
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L999[17:18:27] <CompanionCube> how would
multiverse theory mess with energy not being able to be created or
destroyed
L1000[17:18:45] <CompanionCube> surely
the multiverses would've already existed thus already having
energy
L1001[17:19:02] <DeanIsaKitty>
CompanionCube: Because energy could flow from one to another
universe given the correct circumstances.
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L1003[17:19:25] <CompanionCube> is that
really creation / destruction of energy rather than it just moving
around
L1004[17:19:58] <DeanIsaKitty> Well,
there is no guarantee that this other universe does uphold
conservation of energy.
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L1034[20:43:28] <gamax92> Would you like
some Haribo Sugar Free Gummy Bears
L1035[20:44:13] <DeanIsaKitty> s/Haribo
Sugar Free Gummy Bears/explosive Diarrhea/g
L1036[20:44:13] <Kibibyte>
<gamax92> Would you like some explosive Diarrhea
L1037[20:45:23] <gamax92> no no, it's a
great colon cleanser and weight loss product.
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L1039[20:53:25] <DeanIsaKitty> When I
want my bowels cleaned I drink a few liters coffee more.
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L1042[21:01:32] <ds84182> ( ͡° ͜ʖ
͡°)
L1043[21:01:40] <ds84182> I can cleanse
colons too
L1044[21:01:56] <Alissa> sugar free
Haribo gummy bears
L1045[21:02:20] <ds84182> Alissa:
anus_destroyer
L1046[21:04:17] <Alissa> :D
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L1051[21:38:24] <Pwootage> Really,
Wolfram Alpha? Have to stop working in the middle of my physics
homework?
L1052[21:39:21] <malcom2073> There's a
lesson here
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L1054[21:45:24] <Pwootage> It's the most
conveient way to find the specific heat of copper, and to make sure
my units are correct >.>
L1055[21:45:30] <gamax92> Pwootage:
a
L1056[21:45:46] <Pwootage> It's no
different than any other calculator except it double-checks my
units
L1057[21:45:50] <gamax92>
"3,435,889,920.0 GB/S PEAK" ~Steam
L1058[21:46:02] <Pwootage> gamax92:
ahahaha
L1059[21:52:56] <`-`> Anyways,
sleep
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L1072[23:32:55] <sugoi> gamax92: hi
L1073[23:33:05] <gamax92> sugoi: hi
L1074[23:33:45] <sugoi> i could use your
opinion. i'm having a lot of fun reworking (parts of) openos --
using a unit testing model as i make changes
L1075[23:34:04] <sugoi> but a lot of what
i what to do to /bin/sh.lua is not fit for api in shell.lua, nor
text.lua
L1076[23:34:36] <sugoi> i'd really like
another /lib/ api, specifically for /bin/sh.lua but i am unable to
think of the right name
L1077[23:34:52] <sugoi> i dont want to
call it /lib/sh.lua .. as that could be confusing with
/bin/sh.lua
L1078[23:35:26] <sugoi> ive considered it
though. as well as /lib/shapi.lua or /lib/sh_api.lua ... or
/lib/shutil.lua or /lib/shlib.lua ....
L1079[23:35:32] <sugoi> these are all bad
names :(
L1080[23:35:38] <gamax92>
heterogeneous.lua
L1081[23:35:44] <sugoi> :)
L1082[23:36:22] <gamax92> I'm pretty sure
that /lib/sh.lua would not at all be confused with
/bin/sh.lua
L1083[23:36:54] <sugoi> really? well
that's great to hear
L1084[23:37:01] <sugoi> bc honestly,
that's the perfect name
L1085[23:37:15] <sugoi> as that's exactly
what it is
L1086[23:37:26] <sugoi> i just thought
maybe it was weird or could be weird to some people
L1087[23:37:55] <sugoi> ok then,
excellent, i'm going with /lib/sh.lua
L1088[23:37:59] <sugoi> thanks gamax92
!
L1089[23:58:32] <Sandra> My laptop's
screen is broken....
L1090[23:59:27] <Pwootage> Ouch
L1091[23:59:34] <Sandra> I currently have
it plugged into my TV, but I don't have a wireless keyboard.