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L8[00:15:35] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/2015-12-04_00-15-05.png There
L9[00:15:37] <Mimiru> going to bed
L10[00:15:37] <Mimiru> night
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L16[00:48:15] <sugoi> gamax92: hi
L17[00:49:42] <sugoi> anyone on?
L18[00:51:28] <Izaya> no
L19[00:52:18] <sugoi> Izaya: if you saw a library in /lib called transforms.lua
L20[00:52:23] <sugoi> what would you think it provided?
L21[00:52:44] <Izaya> transformations?
L22[00:52:54] <sugoi> :)
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L26[01:20:36] <Sandra> tis3d what?
L27[01:22:06] <Sandra> god damn it.
L28[01:22:12] <Sandra> that was my OC addon plan.
L29[01:22:26] <Sandra> this is what happens when I can't code fast.
L30[01:22:56] <Izaya> better idea:
L31[01:23:42] <Izaya> write an EEPROM that supports a) remote programming and b) interpreting TIS-100 commands, maybe as opcodes. Then build a grid of Microcontrollers
L32[01:25:01] <SnowDapples> TIS?
L33[01:25:12] <Sandra> https://github.com/MightyPirates/TIS-3D
L34[01:25:56] <Sandra> TIS-100 is a puzzle game by zachtronics industries, the maker of infinifactory and spacechem.
L35[01:26:11] <Sandra> it's about programming parallel programs in assembly.
L36[01:26:28] <SnowDapples> Ah, this TIS-100
L37[01:26:41] <Sandra> ya.
L38[01:26:44] <Izaya> what's the biggest grid you can get in real TIS-100?
L39[01:26:56] <SnowDapples> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13531495/ShareX/2015/12/2015-12-04_08-26-17.png
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L41[01:27:11] <SnowDapples> :D
L42[01:27:11] <SnowDapples> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13531495/ShareX/2015/12/2015-12-04_08-26-17.png
L43[01:27:34] <Sandra> Izaya, 4x4 i think?
L44[01:27:48] <Sandra> I believe it's 4x4.... or maybe it's larger.
L45[01:27:57] <Sandra> 4x6?
L46[01:27:59] <Sandra> 6x6?
L47[01:28:08] <Izaya> okay
L48[01:28:13] <Izaya> I need to build an 8x8 one then
L49[01:28:21] <Sandra> definitely no larger than that I think though.
L50[01:29:55] <Sandra> I'm gonna build the latest versions of tis3d and OC, and use them together. heh.
L51[01:30:10] <Izaya> I'm going to write TIS-3D in OC
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L53[01:40:31] <Izaya> ~w eeprom
L54[01:40:31] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:eeprom
L55[01:41:43] <SnowDapples> I'm going to write TIS for SL
L56[01:41:49] <SnowDapples> Wait, there already IS TIS in SL :D
L57[01:42:36] <Sandra> SL?
L58[01:42:43] <SnowDapples> Second Life
L59[01:44:03] <Sandra> ah right.
L60[01:44:26] <Sandra> oh, this mod's for 1.8? *cries*
L61[01:44:39] <Sandra> I guess I've gotta go get 1.8 versions then.
L62[01:46:40] <Izaya> so, does 128 bytes or so of bytecode sound reasonable?
L63[01:47:54] <Sandra> for what?
L64[01:47:59] <Izaya> for each node
L65[01:51:17] <Sandra> there are 9 registers, and 13 operations on the t21.
L66[01:51:37] <v^Laptop> 9 is so arbitrary
L67[01:51:53] <v^Laptop> 8 CPU registers 1 ALU accumulator?
L68[01:52:28] <v^Laptop> also lol gf really hated connect 4 and refused to play
L69[01:52:38] <Sandra> OH WAIT.
L70[01:52:41] <v^Laptop> so i asked her to pick a number from 1 to 7
L71[01:52:45] <Sandra> one is only accessible indirectly.
L72[01:52:46] <Izaya> ~w redstone
L73[01:52:46] <ocdoc> http://ocd.cil.li/component:redstone
L74[01:52:56] <Sandra> so therefore, there are 8 ADDRESSABLE registers.
L75[01:53:00] <v^Laptop> and she really hates me for tricking her into it xD
L76[01:53:08] <Sandra> good.
L77[01:53:18] <v^Laptop> why?
L78[01:54:26] <Sandra> 8 means you only need a byte to store a register address?
L79[01:54:41] <Sandra> or wait, half a byte.
L80[01:54:43] <Sandra> whoops.
L81[01:54:45] <Sandra> a nibble.
L82[01:54:50] <Sandra> or... no 3 bits.
L83[01:55:07] <Sandra> don't mind me.
L84[01:55:17] <Izaya> 16 would be ideal
L85[01:55:42] <v^Laptop> lol
L86[01:56:05] <v^Laptop> Sandra, some CPUS are lazy and have a register mask so it would be a byte xD
L87[01:56:39] <Sandra> I mean, if you're going for 3d effects, that's top and bottom as well. so there's another two registers.
L88[01:57:00] <Izaya> NSEWTB?
L89[01:57:05] <Sandra> ya.
L90[01:57:17] <Izaya> that's 6 registers, so you have space for 2
L91[01:57:51] <Sandra> no, we have (acc, nil, any, last) as well.
L92[01:59:16] <Izaya> fuck
L93[01:59:23] <Izaya> trying to use the ingame editor:
L94[01:59:49] <Izaya> a<actual code>*exits computer*:wq
L95[02:00:11] <Sandra> gj.
L96[02:00:17] <Sandra> edit is not vi.
L97[02:00:25] <Izaya> that's the issue
L98[02:01:09] <Sandra> is OC1.6 available for 1.7.10?
L99[02:01:24] <Sandra> I guess not huh.
L100[02:02:07] <Sandra> or... is it only 1.7.10.
L101[02:06:08] <v^Laptop> std::map<std::map<std:map<unsigned char*,unsigned char*>,unsigned char*>,unsigned char*>
L102[02:06:24] <Sandra> ...
L103[02:06:29] <Sandra> plzno.
L104[02:06:43] <Sandra> plz using namespace std;
L105[02:07:27] <Sandra> is... that a map from a map to a string?
L106[02:07:31] <Sandra> what?
L107[02:07:47] <v^Laptop> Sandra, hahahaahah i know right
L108[02:07:50] <Sandra> or are keys last in that thing for a stupid reason.
L109[02:08:09] <v^Laptop> its basically a std::map<void*>
L110[02:08:32] <v^Laptop> Sandra, using namespace std; is bad practice ^_^
L111[02:09:15] <Sandra> ... i don't c++.
L112[02:10:29] <Sandra> I kind of want to, but then I don't.
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L114[02:12:22] <Turtle> ... I should PROBABLY test this code before continuing
L115[02:16:19] <v^Laptop> Sandra, you should
L116[02:16:40] <v^Laptop> do you c?
L117[02:22:43] <Turtle> yep, had to debug
L118[02:23:27] <Turtle> ... endTime until startTime, oops.
L119[02:27:26] <Sandra> v^Laptop, I've c'd in the past.
L120[02:27:47] <Sandra> I designed a CPU emulator in C.
L121[02:28:22] <Sandra> I got stumped on an assembly language compiler for it.
L122[02:29:36] <Sandra> I've also C++ed in the past, when I was very young.
L123[02:30:11] <v^Laptop> what made you stop
L124[02:30:44] <Sandra> I was like 8.
L125[02:30:57] <Sandra> and only had outdated documentation.
L126[02:31:48] <Sandra> so I /know/ the basics of c++, I just haven't used it in AAAAGES.
L127[02:32:09] <Izaya> fuck I hate debian
L128[02:32:50] <Izaya> dpkg has to be the flakiest package manager
L129[02:33:15] <Izaya> well considering I've only used pacman, tigerbrew and dpkg I can't really say that
L130[02:33:16] <Izaya> but still
L131[02:33:26] <v^Laptop> most debian users have never touched dpkg
L132[02:33:28] <v^Laptop> xD
L133[02:33:43] <v^Laptop> everyone is lazy and uses apt(itude) to manage everything
L134[02:33:50] <Sandra> dpkg is fine.
L135[02:34:08] <Izaya> dpkg is what's underneath though
L136[02:34:20] <Izaya> how does it have so many weird dependancy issues?
L137[02:34:31] <Izaya> libffi-dev : Depends: libffi6 (= 3.1-2+b2) but 3.2.1-3 is to be installed
L138[02:34:31] <Izaya> what the hell
L139[02:34:43] <v^Laptop> because package maintainers
L140[02:34:50] <Sandra> ah... yes.
L141[02:35:08] <v^Laptop> Izaya, the solution to that is to specify a libffi-dev version
L142[02:35:11] <Izaya> so I try to remove those packages
L143[02:35:21] <Izaya> and boom, it isn't a package
L144[02:35:36] <Sandra> apt is weird.
L145[02:36:03] <v^Laptop> i too have had many frustrating dependancy issues
L146[02:36:23] <Sandra> are other package managers... not that weird?
L147[02:36:25] <v^Laptop> but thats ubuntu, debian, and the package maintainers fault
L148[02:36:28] <Sandra> whoa.
L149[02:36:49] <v^Laptop> Izaya, try aptitude
L150[02:36:50] <Sandra> mind = exploding.
L151[02:37:00] <Izaya> Sandra, pacman never complains about dependancy issues
L152[02:37:04] <Izaya> well it does
L153[02:37:11] <Izaya> but only when they conflict, not about versions
L154[02:37:14] <v^Laptop> it might be able to automatically use an older version as a solution
L155[02:37:55] <Sandra> the only version it /can/ have is 3.1-2+b2.
L156[02:38:51] <Sandra> why do you people want me to use 1.8......
L157[02:38:56] <Sandra> 1.8 is dumb.
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L159[02:40:51] <Sandra> half the mods I wanna test are 1.8, half are 1.8.8.
L160[02:43:15] <Izaya> hm
L161[02:43:17] <Izaya> so
L162[02:43:23] <Izaya> in TIS-100 it has real labels
L163[02:43:45] <Izaya> fuck it I'll have the interpreter deal with it
L164[02:44:38] <Sandra> well, if i was you, I'd compile the labels down to a number and let the number be stored there.
L165[02:45:18] <Izaya> yeah that's what I'm doing
L166[02:45:31] <Izaya> trying to figure out a good way to make prior references to a label actually work though
L167[02:46:39] <Turtle> \o/ my mess of a scheduling bot works
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L169[02:57:30] <Turtle> ... wait, how is summertime done in computers again? By switching to another timezone for the summertime?
L170[02:57:38] <Turtle> or, DST, since I cannot english
L171[03:01:12] <Sandra> yes, good to see that programming a thing in tis3d causes a crash.
L172[03:01:15] <Sandra> greeeeeat.
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L177[03:19:32] <Sandra> I'm in Pack Dev mode! woo!
L178[03:20:00] <Izaya> so I have a table with the registers mapped to numbers
L179[03:20:08] <Izaya> (bak maps to nil)
L180[03:20:20] <Izaya> and lua was complaining
L181[03:20:31] <Izaya> so I had to put reg["nil"]=3 on a different line
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L183[03:31:46] <vifino> aaaaaaah, waking up... so hard
L184[03:33:20] <v^Laptop> vifino, morning wood
L185[03:33:42] <v^Laptop> these are things that happen when you just reach puberty
L186[03:33:49] <vifino> :l
L187[03:34:04] <v^Laptop> vifino do i need to give you _the talk_
L188[03:34:30] <vifino> v^Laptop: You didn't even have the talk, your mom still thinks you're a retard.
L189[03:35:06] <v^Laptop> okay little vifi, when a mommy and daddy love each other very much
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L191[03:35:20] <vifino> gg
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L194[03:35:44] <Izaya> my mum's version of 'the talk': "I know you already know how it works, so just remember that there's a minimum age - not that it's ever going to be relevant to you"
L195[03:35:58] <vifino> haha
L196[03:36:22] <vifino> v^Laptop: I never had the talk, you're right.
L197[03:36:41] <vifino> My parents knew I didn't need to be introduced by them.
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L199[03:36:55] <v^Laptop> Izaya, :x gf is 15
L200[03:37:07] <v^Laptop> its bad, ik
L201[03:37:16] <vifino> Nah.
L202[03:37:30] <vifino> What's bad if you were 18+ and she would be 12 or so.
L203[03:38:30] <v^Laptop> yeah thats actual rape :x
L204[03:38:35] <v^Laptop> das bad
L205[03:39:14] <v^Laptop> but there are a lot of 14 year olds sleeping with 20+ year olds where i live
L206[03:39:33] <vifino> Technically rape.
L207[03:39:59] <vifino> afaik there is some rule regarding age differences or something.
L208[03:41:05] <vifino> Anyhow, I got stuff to do.
L209[03:41:41] <vifino> Something with availability checks of fiber or something.
L210[03:42:15] <vifino> I do stuff for my cousin, but I have no clue what I was supposed to do, I remember nothing about yesterday.
L211[03:42:17] <vifino> Like, at all.
L212[03:43:16] <vifino> Oh, yeah, fiber availabiliy check, an nfc checkin thing and something else..
L213[03:43:27] <vifino> Argh, such not remember .-.
L214[03:44:48] <Izaya> shit trying to figure out the difference between a constant and a register is big
L215[03:44:54] <Izaya> like 50% of the code
L216[03:46:07] <Izaya> .... wow, none of my like 11 steam friends are online
L217[03:46:09] <Izaya> are they all like
L218[03:46:15] <Izaya> socializing on a friday night or something?
L219[03:48:01] * Izaya grumbles something about mortals and goes to get another drink
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L221[03:51:40] <Turtle> Friday night? grr timezones
L222[03:51:57] <Izaya> 8:51
L223[03:52:06] <Izaya> 20:52 rather
L224[03:52:22] <Turtle> it's 10:52 here
L225[03:52:53] <Turtle> only like 5-6 duders from uni actually showed up (Started at 8:30, no lectures until 14:30)
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L227[03:58:14] * vifino wonders when Lizzy is going to show up
L228[03:59:53] <Turtle> Well obviously whenever shit starts hitting the fan in this channel
L229[04:01:09] <vifino> Hmm...
L230[04:01:20] * vifino wonders if he should throw shit at the fan
L231[04:01:24] <vifino> >:D
L232[04:01:30] <Izaya> uno momento please
L233[04:01:49] * Izaya grabs a large flat piece of metal and huddles against the wall
L234[04:03:12] * Skye unplugs the metaphorical fan
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L236[04:03:40] * vifino fires the shit catapult at Skye
L237[04:03:44] <vifino> oops.
L238[04:03:55] <Sandra> dammit. the player dealing with 2 inventory slots is easier than programming a robot.
L239[04:04:04] * Skye turns on the fan
L240[04:04:18] * vifino takes cover
L241[04:05:05] * Skye turns off the fan and uses it as a bat to hit the poop onto Izaya's metal plate
L242[04:05:25] <Sandra> 18+ and 12 isn't rape.
L243[04:05:29] <Sandra> that's pedophilia.
L244[04:05:35] <Sandra> rape is sex without consent.
L245[04:05:39] <vifino> Same difference.
L246[04:05:50] <Sandra> no, there's a big difference.
L247[04:06:01] <Izaya> this place seems like an imageboard channel some times
L248[04:06:10] <Sandra> if the 12 yr old /wants/ to have sex with the 18 yr old and vice versa, that's not rape.
L249[04:06:15] <Sandra> that's just pedophilia.
L250[04:07:14] <v^Laptop> Sandra, satuatory rape?
L251[04:07:21] <v^Laptop> still illegal
L252[04:07:58] <Cazzar> Yeah, technically it is covered by statuatory rape.
L253[04:08:02] <v^Laptop> i beleive in most states the age difference maximum is 4 years
L254[04:08:22] <Sandra> oh.
L255[04:08:24] <Sandra> yeah.
L256[04:08:33] <v^Laptop> which means a 16 yo and 12 yo cant be charged with rape
L257[04:08:34] <Sandra> below the age of consent.
L258[04:08:38] <Sandra> I thought so.
L259[04:08:41] <v^Laptop> but still illegal ofc
L260[04:08:47] <Sandra> age of consent here is 16.
L261[04:08:54] <v^Laptop> here also
L262[04:09:02] <Sandra> any sex below that is illegal no matter what.
L263[04:09:42] <v^Laptop> y gf gotta be year younger than me
L264[04:09:45] <v^Laptop> its not fair
L265[04:10:08] <vifino> "Why are you in jail, young pal?" "I had sex, was worth it."
L266[04:10:35] <Sandra> oh niiiice, in UK legally only men can be statutory rapists.
L267[04:10:45] <Sandra> greeeeat.
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L269[04:11:09] <Izaya> freaking skype
L270[04:11:27] <Izaya> there is now a window in my right-bottom corner I can't interact with and can't get rid of
L271[04:11:44] <Cazzar> Actually IIRC in some cases, if there is consent and within a certain range it's alright, under the age of consent that also in closes parental consent...
L272[04:12:04] <Cazzar> Not 100% on that.
L273[04:12:32] <Turtle> Laws of consent tend to be fucky in general iirc.
L274[04:12:53] <Cazzar> The law is full of loopholes
L275[04:13:03] <v^Laptop> Sandra, thats bullshit :/
L276[04:13:06] <Turtle> Not sure on this once, Am not a lawyer, iirc prior consent does not apply if consent can't be given 'in the moment'
L277[04:13:24] <Sandra> A person commits an offence if—
L278[04:13:25] <Sandra> (a) he intentionally penetrates the vagina, anus or mouth of another person with his penis, and
L279[04:13:25] <Sandra> (b) the other person is under 13.
L280[04:13:27] <v^Laptop> i have an extremely abusive cousin around my age
L281[04:13:53] <Sandra> \o/
L282[04:13:59] <Cazzar> For example, for AU you can't be taken for child pornography if you can prove you got it from an online game.
L283[04:14:03] <v^Laptop> she is the type of person to rape
L284[04:14:11] <Cazzar> Which is fair, but exploitable as fuck.
L285[04:14:23] <Sandra> from an online game?
L286[04:14:25] <Turtle> ... wat?
L287[04:14:43] <v^Laptop> Cazzar, in the US the jury can ignore laws in ridiculous cases like that
L288[04:15:20] <Turtle> ^ Protip: If you ever wish to get on jury duty, don't look up the laws regarding that
L289[04:15:50] <Sandra> if you do jury you're not supposed to know about law, really.
L290[04:16:39] <v^Laptop> because its about lawyers bullshitting the jury with misleading information
L291[04:16:49] <vifino> Wat. Age of consent in germany is 14?
L292[04:16:52] <Sandra> mmm hmm.
L293[04:16:55] <vifino> Interesting.
L294[04:16:55] <v^Laptop> vifino, mfw
L295[04:17:23] <Sandra> vifino, german children are older younger for some reason according to law
L296[04:17:39] <vifino> Nice.
L297[04:17:43] <Sandra> in general for some reason.
L298[04:18:39] <Turtle> Wait, juries are not supposed to know the law?
L299[04:18:46] <Sandra> not really, no.
L300[04:18:54] <Sandra> certainly not experts on it.
L301[04:19:10] <Turtle> well, I guess not experts, but going on 'just emotion' is absolute dogshit
L302[04:19:15] <Sandra> they're supposed to judge based purely on the trial.
L303[04:19:33] <Sandra> and law brought up in the trial.
L304[04:20:03] <Turtle> I suddenly feel very glad about just having regular judges in the netherlands here
L305[04:20:41] <Sandra> heh.
L306[04:21:54] <Turtle> slightly related: Did we (i.e. humanity) figure out why the gender pay gap is still a thing yet? >.<
L307[04:22:08] <Turtle> (As in, a theory that is mostly accepted by researchers in the field)
L308[04:22:37] <Cazzar> Here we go
L309[04:22:40] <Cazzar> No offence is committed against this Division by reason of— (a) the possession or dissemination of a publication, film or computer game that has been classified under the Classification (Publications, Films and Computer Games) Act 1995 (unless it is classified as a publication for which classification is refused (RC));
L310[04:23:55] <Turtle> uhh, games looked like quite the loophole, but films and publications? That's basicly an [insert lawyer here] sign
L311[04:24:17] <Sandra> Turtle, iirc it's just since law of averages and women tend to take lower paying jobs.
L312[04:25:03] <Sandra> maybe.
L313[04:25:15] <Turtle> Sandra, I thought that one got debunked, I read some research that said women tend to negotiate less, and that bosses are simply jerks who offer less to women
L314[04:25:19] <v^Laptop> Turtle, i looked at like 3 different studies
L315[04:25:45] <Sandra> mmm, that supports it no?
L316[04:26:01] <v^Laptop> basically women tend to take long leaves to start a family and are less comfortable with overtime, etc
L317[04:26:17] <Turtle> Sandra, hmm, good point
L318[04:26:35] <Turtle> I mean bosses being jerks isn't something legislation can fix easily though >.<
L319[04:26:59] <v^Laptop> in high paying jobs women have a higher rate of acceptence though
L320[04:27:09] <Sandra> \o/
L321[04:27:11] <v^Laptop> it seems like they are less interested
L322[04:27:19] <v^Laptop> but more qualified when they are
L323[04:27:46] <Turtle> That'd be much easier to check if the NSA didn't ruin datacollection for everyone T.T
L324[04:28:02] <Turtle> But, makes sense, numbers would be tricky to get
L325[04:28:02] <v^Laptop> Turtle, lmao they have been doing that since forever
L326[04:28:11] <v^Laptop> its not even a secret anymore
L327[04:28:34] <v^Laptop> especially IRC
L328[04:28:38] <Turtle> v^Laptop they have, the problem is 'good' data collection, say, satnav locations to monitor traffic congestion
L329[04:28:46] <Turtle> is now frowned upon heavily by 'the people'
L330[04:29:11] <v^Laptop> TBH it its more effective than the TSA
L331[04:29:20] <v^Laptop> but they use it to harass people also
L332[04:29:54] <v^Laptop> and snowden uncovered they spent millions and millions in putting vulnerabilities in crypto systems
L333[04:30:15] <v^Laptop> not a good thing
L334[04:30:30] <Turtle> iirc, snowden had literal proof NSA employees were using collected data for pornographic purposes
L335[04:31:09] <v^Laptop> yep xD these people can do whatever they want with the data
L336[04:31:19] <Cazzar> Turtle, Google do that with Android phones and Google maps.
L337[04:31:31] <Turtle> Cazzar, that's my point, it can be a great help to humanity
L338[04:31:40] <Turtle> but politics gotta ruin it >.<
L339[04:32:03] <v^Laptop> people have said before, whenever the legality of what the NSA is doing is quesioned they just go up the chain until its impossible to find out
L340[04:32:38] <Turtle> and, not to deminish the fact that ISIS is terrible, the NSA did get lucky with them >.>
L341[04:33:58] <v^Laptop> terrorists finnaly figured out that mass shootings are much cheaper and effective than bombs
L342[04:34:09] <v^Laptop> i need sleep
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L344[04:34:30] <Cazzar> And I heard with ISIS or more correctly Daesh with the Paris attacks they claimed encryption was used but apparently it wasnt?
L345[04:35:00] <Cazzar> That's what ended up hearing.
L346[04:41:31] <Turtle> Don't those things get planned in person anyway
L347[04:42:01] <Turtle> with like, the ability to horribly gunmurder any traitors (i.e. traitors to Daesh)
L348[04:50:26] <vifino> \o/ The angel woke up \o/
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L352[05:11:05] <Lizzy> [10:01] * vifino wonders if he should throw shit at the fan
L353[05:11:10] <Lizzy> please dont
L354[05:11:13] <vifino> :P
L355[05:11:30] * vifino kisses Lizzy and curls up on her
L356[05:23:11] <Turtle> ^_^
L357[05:23:15] * Turtle quickly hides
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L359[06:04:26] <Izaya> fun idea:
L360[06:04:38] <Izaya> so for compute-heavy stuff in OC
L361[06:04:55] <Izaya> have a bunch of microcontrollers acting as slaves to a few big servers
L362[06:06:21] <vifino> Izaya: http://github.com/ds84183/Anix
L363[06:07:10] <Izaya> uh
L364[06:07:18] <Izaya> this doesn't have much about distributed computing
L365[06:07:34] <vifino> Uhm.
L366[06:07:36] <vifino> It does.
L367[06:07:43] <vifino> At least acording to ds84182.
L368[06:07:51] <Izaya> the readme doesn't
L369[06:08:03] <Izaya> and I'm more a fan of writing my own code than digging through someone else's
L370[06:08:49] <Izaya> like I can see how it would be better than OpenOS
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L372[06:23:13] <Izaya> hmm
L373[06:28:06] <asie> vifino: >ds84183
L374[06:28:18] <asie> yes
L375[06:28:23] <vifino> asie: stfu
L376[06:28:34] <vifino> i typed it by hand, mmmkay?
L377[06:28:35] <asie> vifino: who's "the f" and why should i shut them up?
L378[06:28:38] <asie> :^)
L379[06:28:45] <vifino> >.<
L380[06:28:49] <vifino> Anyways, hai asie.
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L382[06:40:47] <Alissa> Gooooooooooooooood morning Vietnam!
L383[06:42:10] <Izaya> http://i.imgur.com/bRGFh7Y.png so I got bored
L384[06:42:14] <Izaya> okay fun idea
L385[06:42:19] <Izaya> I can either use a normal FS API
L386[06:42:27] <Izaya> or have a table that acts as an interface to the filesystem
L387[06:43:22] <asie> Izaya: or you can distract me looking at your code with cute anime girls
L388[06:44:37] <Izaya> haha
L389[06:44:46] <Izaya> unintended but totally okay
L390[06:44:48] <Izaya> :D
L391[06:45:01] <Izaya> note to self: GIMP that lemon into a cookie
L392[06:46:11] <Izaya> I sorta like the 'the filesystem is a table' idea
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L394[06:53:24] <Alissa> Izaya: sounds neat
L395[06:53:39] <Izaya> I did it once before
L396[06:53:45] <Izaya> but at that point it had OpenOS under it
L397[06:54:05] <Alissa> ... "Filesystem represented as a table" ?
L398[06:54:11] <Izaya> yeah
L399[06:54:28] <Izaya> you could set a value to write a file, and read a value to get the contents of a file
L400[06:54:38] <Alissa> Or re place the filesystem with a take
L401[06:54:40] <Alissa> Of
L402[06:54:44] <Alissa> Oh*
L403[06:55:07] <Izaya> That would also be really easy
L404[06:55:17] <Izaya> just rawset the value somewhere
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L410[07:12:51] <Alissa> Izaya: path/to/file/(read|write)
L411[07:13:23] <Izaya> a=path/to/file
L412[07:13:34] <Izaya> path/to/file="b"
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L414[07:18:43] <Alissa> Izaya: that would be some weird newindex trickery
L415[07:19:16] <Izaya> naturally
L416[07:19:34] * vifino gives Lizzy a cold pepsi
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L432[08:48:23] <Alissa> Izaya: I don't see why you don't have the file, then file attributes. But whatever. :/
L433[09:02:01] <dangranos> omfg
L434[09:02:05] <dangranos> oh wow
L435[09:02:21] <Alissa> ?
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L437[09:02:44] <dangranos> ...
L438[09:02:46] <dangranos> rly
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L440[09:02:54] <dangranos> it's THAT guy
L441[09:03:25] <dangranos> so
L442[09:03:38] <dangranos> someone posted a post about how he wrote an OS for MC
L443[09:03:43] <dangranos> (for opencomputers)
L444[09:04:02] <Lizzy> ?
L445[09:04:02] <dangranos> i though "i guess that's that guy who said "fck localization in installer"
L446[09:04:13] <dangranos> it's that guy
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L448[09:06:03] <dangranos> i'm not going to trying to translate this again
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L450[09:06:13] <dangranos> not like he would want any real localization
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L458[09:41:48] <gamax92> dangranos: lost in translation
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L460[09:49:23] <dangranos> ahm?
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L466[10:11:50] <dangranos> ._.
L467[10:12:03] <dangranos> where is it possible to find Sangar's email?
L468[10:12:24] <dangranos> so far i have seen it only in his pgp key
L469[10:12:31] <Lizzy> Sangar@cil.li perhaps?
L470[10:13:09] <Alissa> His GitHub.
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L473[10:13:43] <Alissa> Oh, he doesn't put it up. Nevermind then.
L474[10:14:27] <Lizzy> Check the forum
L475[10:14:39] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: Uhm.... Check the gpg's UID?
L476[10:15:30] <Lizzy> DeanIsaKitty!
L477[10:15:39] * Lizzy hugs DeanIsaKitty
L478[10:16:27] * DeanIsaKitty cuddles Lizzy
L479[10:17:17] <Lizzy> Skye: I just got 3 notifications from you favouriting my tweet
L480[10:17:29] <Skye> ._.
L481[10:17:35] <Skye> Wat
L482[10:17:36] <Lizzy> Twitter app, Twitter text and email :P
L483[10:17:36] <Alissa> Lizzy: Mobile client, email, and text?
L484[10:17:38] <Alissa> :P
L485[10:17:42] <Skye> Oh
L486[10:17:48] <Skye> Hahahahhaha
L487[10:17:49] <Alissa> 10:17 <Alissa> Lizzy: Mobile client, email, and text?
L488[10:17:51] <Alissa> 10:17 ―― Lizzy (lizzy@lizzy.theender.net): I'm sorry, but I'm away (Probably detached from tmux)
L489[10:17:52] <dangranos> DeanIsaKitty: that's what i did
L490[10:18:08] <Lizzy> Alissa: whoops, lemme mark back
L491[10:18:24] <Lizzy> There
L492[10:19:23] <Alissa> Lizzy: Still doesn't beat the amount of notifications I get daily because of WeeChat.
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L494[10:19:29] <Alissa> A ding on my phone and two on my computer.
L495[10:19:44] <Sangar> o/
L496[10:19:45] <Lizzy> I think my body temperature is now on the level of my soul
L497[10:19:50] <dangranos> hi Sangar
L498[10:19:50] <DeanIsaKitty> dangranos: I'll tell him to get a public email or allow me to tell you his email
L499[10:19:54] <vifino> I... don't think eating tuna and olives for the whole day is very healthy...
L500[10:19:56] <vifino> :v
L501[10:20:13] <Alissa> of course it is
L502[10:20:35] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: Get a fucking contact@cil.li you stone age twat
L503[10:20:40] <dangranos> ^
L504[10:20:52] <dangranos> i had to dig up your PGP key
L505[10:20:59] <dangranos> just to find email
L506[10:21:01] <Skye> vifino: There's worse things to eat all day...
L507[10:21:09] <dangranos> not sure if it's even alive
L508[10:21:17] <DeanIsaKitty> And while you're at it, security@ and abuse@. <.<
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L510[10:21:50] <Lizzy> Alissa: I don't keep my phone connected to irc but if there's a lot of pings in my buffer m phone goes mental whilst connecting
L511[10:21:55] <Sangar> DeanIsaKitty, wat
L512[10:22:12] <Alissa> I'm on mobile a lot.
L513[10:22:24] <Alissa> School, job, blah.
L514[10:22:25] <Lizzy> I'm not sure if theender.net has stuff for abuse and security
L515[10:22:36] <Lizzy> I know it has postmaster and webmaster
L516[10:23:04] <Alissa> Skye: your cooking?
L517[10:23:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: You're a twat. Also having some publicly available email addresses is a kind of internet knigge. Like webmaster@, postmaster@, abuse@ & contact@
L518[10:23:12] <Alissa> :D
L519[10:23:16] * Lizzy shivers
L520[10:23:30] <Sangar> pretty much all of those should work i think
L521[10:24:08] <Lizzy> Hm, can you do wildcards in /etc/aliases for postmaster?
L522[10:24:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Sangar: But do you get them?
L523[10:24:25] * vifino sits next to Lizzy and puts a blanket over her
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L525[10:26:34] <dangranos> дщд
L526[10:27:00] <dangranos> *heh
L527[10:27:12] <dangranos> talking with author of that fancy russian OC OS
L528[10:27:39] <dangranos> forwarding 10 out of 10 teas to DeanIsaKitty
L529[10:27:53] <Lizzy> \o/ train is here
L530[10:28:04] * DeanIsaKitty sips tea
L531[10:28:08] <vifino> woo
L532[10:28:40] * Alissa sips DeanIsaKitty
L533[10:29:11] <DeanIsaKitty> Alissa: Can you not? <.<
L534[10:29:19] <Lizzy> *lenny*
L535[10:29:27] <Alissa> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L536[10:29:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Could you not? <.<
L537[10:29:45] * Lizzy mwahahahahahas
L538[10:34:20] <vifino> great, time to design some web thing for my cousin
L539[10:34:30] <vifino> i need more coffeine
L540[10:35:18] * dangranos wonders if Sangar reads his nuecke.de mail
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L542[10:36:00] <Sangar> i do, but there's nothing there :X
L543[10:36:31] <DeanIsaKitty> I sent you an email a few days ago <.<
L544[10:36:34] <DeanIsaKitty> Like 3
L545[10:38:34] <Inari> i have no clue why a router is allowed to take 3 seconds to serve up a page
L546[10:39:13] <Sangar> oh, right, there was that one. it got washed away in other mails >_> sorry
L547[10:39:21] <DeanIsaKitty> <.<
L548[10:39:32] <DeanIsaKitty> I hate you ._.
L549[10:39:49] <Sangar> i hate you too :3
L550[10:39:56] <DeanIsaKitty> :|
L551[10:40:10] <vifino> 16k csv in a half broken format. fun.
L552[10:40:22] <vifino> 16k lines*
L553[10:46:17] <vifino> so at least this thing parses it half correctly.
L554[10:54:35] <Turtle> It's still amusing to see how fuckhuge CSV files are everywhere and people just seem to forget ascii-seperated-values are a thing
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L557[11:05:57] * Lizzy is home
L558[11:06:02] <scj643> Anyone here do web dev?
L559[11:06:09] <Lizzy> what kind?
L560[11:06:09] <scj643> Was looking at http://www.polymer-project.org/
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L562[11:06:36] <scj643> Wanted to use material design on my site at http://scj643.theender.net
L563[11:06:47] <vifino> woo, you're back Lizzy :D
L564[11:07:13] <Alissa> scj643: I use Material Design Lite rather than Polymer.
L565[11:07:19] <Lizzy> scj643, lol, that gives 403
L566[11:07:26] <scj643> Yeah
L567[11:07:32] <scj643> That's on purpose
L568[11:07:36] <Lizzy> %lookup scj643.theender.net
L569[11:07:36] <MichiBot> Lizzy: DNS Info for scj643.theender.net 104.236.56.14
L570[11:07:39] <Lizzy> k
L571[11:07:45] <scj643> Until I get stuff setup for it
L572[11:08:32] <Alissa> scj643: What are you wanting to put on the web site?
L573[11:08:37] <dangranos> scj643: wai, how you got that address?
L574[11:08:47] <scj643> Lizzy
L575[11:09:06] <Lizzy> ?
L576[11:09:07] <Lizzy> oh
L577[11:09:09] <Lizzy> nvm
L578[11:09:24] <scj643> The website I want it to be a blog and http file host for OC
L579[11:10:02] <Lizzy> scj643, look into Let's Encrypt, they provide HTTPS certs for free
L580[11:10:06] <dangranos> ...
L581[11:10:06] <scj643> I have
L582[11:10:09] <dangranos> uuuugh
L583[11:10:12] <Lizzy> cool
L584[11:10:14] <dangranos> >cyber01
L585[11:10:15] <scj643> It's a pain right now
L586[11:10:20] <Lizzy> ?
L587[11:10:23] <dangranos> that guy is from a russian server
L588[11:10:25] <scj643> I'm on my iPad doing this
L589[11:10:28] <Lizzy> ah
L590[11:10:29] <dangranos> iirc he is admin
L591[11:10:51] <scj643> Well I have my root CA for private stuff
L592[11:11:03] <scj643> Like my IRC bouncer and internal code signing
L593[11:11:17] <scj643> (For stuff I run as admin to make sure it isn't tampered)
L594[11:11:23] <dangranos> scj643: is that subdomain leads to your server or to vhost?
L595[11:11:32] <scj643> VPS
L596[11:11:36] <scj643> Digital ocean
L597[11:11:42] * dangranos sighs
L598[11:12:13] <scj643> scj.theender.net is a VPS on Athar iirc
L599[11:12:18] <Lizzy> yep
L600[11:12:41] <dangranos> wai..
L601[11:12:52] <scj643> Which still has players
L602[11:13:11] <Lizzy> which reminds me i might break networking on Athar some time this weekend and i don't know to what extent it'll affect your VPS (same goes to DeanIsaKitty and Izaya)
L603[11:13:13] <dangranos> you mean athar can host VPS?
L604[11:13:20] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Noted.
L605[11:13:28] <scj643> Noted
L606[11:13:32] <Lizzy> dangranos, athar is a fucking beast
L607[11:13:38] * Lizzy prods Ender
L608[11:13:51] <dangranos> wai
L609[11:13:55] <scj643> 512 MB ram VPS from digital ocean is my web server and bouncer
L610[11:13:58] * dangranos is confused
L611[11:14:18] <Ender> ssh being slow for some reason....
L612[11:14:20] <scj643> Take a look at http://scj643.theender.net/music
L613[11:14:31] <Ender> CPU~Quad core Intel Xeon E3-1231 v3 (-HT-MCP-) clocked at Min:3679.171Mhz Max:3798.703Mhz Kernel~3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Up~76 days Mem~14098.2/32076.5MB HDD~2000.4GB(22.1% used) Procs~324 Client~Irssi 0.8.17 inxi~2.1.28
L614[11:14:37] <Ender> ^ is Athar
L615[11:14:45] <scj643> The sunleth waterscape I mixed my self in reaper
L616[11:14:53] <scj643> From a midi filed
L617[11:14:56] <scj643> *file
L618[11:15:21] <scj643> My VPS has been up lounger
L619[11:15:25] <scj643> *long
L620[11:15:42] <Lizzy> scj643, i've had Athar for about that long
L621[11:15:49] <scj643> Oh
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L624[11:16:36] <Lizzy> Janus's is:
L625[11:16:37] <Lizzy> CPU~Single core Virtual e7da7129d3ee (-HT-) clocked at 3392 Mhz Kernel~3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Up~186 days Mem~671.2/2010.2MB HDD~48.3GB(22.2% used) Procs~132 Client~Irssi 0.8.17 inxi~2.1.28
L626[11:17:10] <Lizzy> and that hosts my bouncer, website, OC forums and a few other things
L627[11:17:16] <scj643> Nice
L628[11:17:41] <scj643> My 512 MB single core VPS hosts a bouncer (quassel) and a web serverr
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L630[11:18:46] <Lizzy> usually Janus is quite fast but something is stealing the cpu time so it's being sluggish till i restart it monday
L631[11:22:35] <scj643> Ok
L632[11:22:45] <scj643> Is Athar fine?
L633[11:22:49] <Lizzy> yes
L634[11:23:03] <scj643> K
L635[11:23:16] <Lizzy> well, apart from your vps maxing out a core, which is normal anyway
L636[11:23:22] <scj643> Lol
L637[11:23:31] <scj643> That's Minecraft for you
L638[11:23:48] <scj643> Need to work on that
L639[11:23:56] <Lizzy> eh, it's fine
L640[11:24:11] <scj643> Maybe this weekend if you don't mess up the networking
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L664[12:42:55] <Pwootage> Good morning o/
L665[12:43:11] <scj643> Afternoon
L666[12:43:30] <Pwootage> (It's 11:43, so I guess that still qualifies as morning for me)
L667[12:43:45] <gamax92> D:< Pwootage lives near me
L668[12:43:52] <Pwootage> uhoh
L669[12:44:04] <Lizzy> ... janus what are you doing?
L670[12:44:11] <Alissa> scj643: Universal IRC time. Good morning when coming on, good night when logging off.
L671[12:44:29] <scj643> Why not just hello or goodbye
L672[12:44:35] <Pwootage> I like that idea, actually
L673[12:44:37] <gamax92> goodbye
L674[12:44:45] <Pwootage> NOOOOOOOOO DON'T GO GAMAX
L675[12:44:46] <Pwootage> D:
L676[12:45:05] <gamax92> ripperoni in pepperoni
L677[12:46:17] <Pwootage> Anyone know how to add custom commands to a gradle build? I need to compile and minify typescript to javascript for the javascript arch
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L689[12:59:34] <MajGenRelativity> asie, are you available?
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L691[13:00:30] <asie> sort of
L692[13:00:32] <asie> why?
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L694[13:00:55] <MGR> I had a question about the BTM form
L695[13:01:03] <MGR> What mods do you require?
L696[13:01:03] <MGR> (In the modpack)
L697[13:01:15] <MGR> Does that mean what mods I have in my mopdack, or what mods I need for the booth?
L698[13:01:23] <nxsupert> o/
L699[13:01:36] <MGR> eyyyy it's nxsupert
L700[13:01:39] <MGR> how's life?
L701[13:01:39] <scj643> What pack?
L702[13:01:44] <MGR> My modpack
L703[13:01:53] <scj643> .......
L704[13:01:59] <MGR> MGR's Yuonic TechnoMago pack
L705[13:02:12] <scj643> Oh
L706[13:02:25] <MGR> It's mostly tech themed, but it has a few magic mods, with most centered around magical automation
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L708[13:02:58] <scj643> My pack is computer focused with projectE
L709[13:03:10] <MGR> projectE?
L710[13:03:15] <scj643> Ee2
L711[13:03:21] <scj643> For 1.7.10
L712[13:03:26] <MGR> Equivelent Exchange?
L713[13:03:32] <scj643> Yep
L714[13:03:52] <MGR> I heard from people that was OP
L715[13:04:08] <MGR> Although a certain thing I messed up twice (with disastrous results) is also OP
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L717[13:04:46] <scj643> Mine is set so you can't make machine parts with it
L718[13:05:17] <scj643> Also I'm lazy
L719[13:05:27] <MGR> Ah
L720[13:05:39] <scj643> It's also supposed to be less survival more innovating
L721[13:05:40] <MGR> And asie never responded to my question :(
L722[13:06:02] <MGR> With mine, it's all about who can make the fanciest automation and smartest computers
L723[13:06:04] <asie> MGR: The latter
L724[13:06:11] <MGR> Great!
L725[13:06:11] <asie> Modpacks will have it harder to get mods through though
L726[13:06:17] <asie> Also, what mods do you have?
L727[13:06:20] <asie> The premise sounds interesting
L728[13:06:25] <MGR> :D
L729[13:06:46] <MGR> I have Buildcraft, TE, MFR, Thaumcraft, TiC, OC, Computronics, Automagy, and more
L730[13:07:14] <asie> heh
L731[13:07:16] <MGR> http://pastebin.com/zyGy3yfj
L732[13:07:43] <asie> alright
L733[13:07:54] <MGR> The booth is about the server, so the only mods I need are OpenComputers (for the basic question answering program), and Chisel and Carpenter's blocks (so the booth can look pretty)
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L735[13:08:19] <asie> All will be in
L736[13:08:29] <MGR> yay
L737[13:08:33] <Sangar> asie, if i backport tis-3d, can i have a booth for it?
L738[13:08:54] <Sangar> otherwise i'll cram it into the oc one :P
L739[13:09:03] <asie> Sangar: sure
L740[13:09:11] <asie> i'm not backporting charset
L741[13:09:15] <asie> part of the reason why booth work slowed down
L742[13:09:21] <asie> or btm work in general
L743[13:09:28] <Sangar> mhm
L744[13:09:35] <asie> but the booth server will be open before dec 17
L745[13:09:41] <Sangar> i'm not 100% sure yet i will, but it's not unlikely
L746[13:09:47] <Sangar> cool
L747[13:09:58] <MGR> I will put it in the form, but I would also like my booth next to XDjackieXD, if possible
L748[13:10:16] <MGR> He said he could help out a little in the early morning (for me), if it was
L749[13:10:50] <asie> Sangar: i'm not really sure if it's worth it for "vanilla+" mods
L750[13:10:52] <asie> 1.7.10 is saturated
L751[13:11:19] * Sangar shrugs. will have to have a look at how many errors i'm getting :P
L752[13:11:23] <asie> json models?
L753[13:11:49] <Sangar> yeah, that'll be the most painful part. tho the model itself is .obj, so i hope i can load that somehow
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L755[13:12:28] <scj643> Booth?
L756[13:13:13] <MGR> yeah, at Better than Minecon
L757[13:13:14] <asie> scj643: http://btm.asie.pl/16/
L758[13:13:33] <Sangar> hangon. today's friday. how did i not notice until now o.O
L759[13:13:46] <Sangar> i can stay up late coding \o/
L760[13:14:00] <vifino> Sangar: No, it's `data +%s`.
L761[13:14:13] <asie> i've been porting copygirl's tweaks to CharsetTweaks
L762[13:14:31] <Sangar> what tweaks are those?
L763[13:14:34] <asie> CharsetTweaks now consists of a "replace broken tools" patch (RP2-style), "double doors open simultaneously" patch
L764[13:14:41] <asie> and an AsieTweaks thing which adds graphite to replace ink sacs
L765[13:14:44] <asie> (i hate squids)
L766[13:14:44] <Sangar> noice
L767[13:14:50] <Sangar> haha
L768[13:14:52] <asie> CharsetTweaks will be part of Charset 0.0.3
L769[13:15:16] <MGR> ForbiddenMagic adds a replacement for ink sacs too
L770[13:15:22] <asie> i don't use ForbiddenMagic
L771[13:15:22] <MGR> although not 1.8....
L772[13:15:34] <asie> in fact, i don't use quite a lot of mods
L773[13:15:48] <MGR> I submitted my form for my booth!
L774[13:15:51] <scj643> Is that on a weekend?
L775[13:15:53] * MGR cheers
L776[13:15:56] <MGR> Yes it is
L777[13:16:14] <scj643> I will have to get a better computer
L778[13:16:20] <asie> or watch the streams
L779[13:16:35] <scj643> A 2.2 ghz dual core pentium with 4GB Of ram
L780[13:16:36] <MGR> I will record videos, hopefully
L781[13:16:39] <MGR> Oof
L782[13:16:58] <MGR> I have a Quad-core, hyperthreaded, 4th Gen i7 with 16 GB of RAM
L783[13:17:05] <MGR> No dedicated video card though :(
L784[13:17:21] <scj643> No dedicated either
L785[13:17:46] <scj643> Though video encoding is better done on a COU
L786[13:17:46] <scj643> *CPU
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L788[13:20:17] <MGR> even with a Builder's Wand, making a 27x27 square of obsidian is tedious
L789[13:21:55] <asie> it's obsidian
L790[13:22:20] <MGR> yes, it is obsidian
L791[13:22:40] <MGR> anything softer gets obliterated too quickly
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L793[13:26:57] <MGR> base square is done
L794[13:26:59] <MGR> whoo
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L796[13:28:15] <Magik6k> Sangar, u here?
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L798[13:28:25] <Sangar> Magik6k, ya
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L801[13:29:03] <Magik6k> Sangar, wai my creative servers keep telling me that they have no energy? (1.6 branch)
L802[13:29:09] <Magik6k> or is this normal?
L803[13:29:45] <Sangar> Magik6k, don't think so. what does the analyzer say, 0 buffer size or something?
L804[13:29:50] <Sangar> are they connected to some side?
L805[13:30:31] <Sangar> haven't really tested tho, i don't think, so maybe it's just not working again :X
L806[13:30:35] <Magik6k> There is no energy in network, and I thaught they should privide some
L807[13:31:00] <Magik6k> https://assets.magik6k.net/screenshoots/1449257452.png
L808[13:31:05] <Sangar> they should, yeah. but i might have forgotten to reimplement it yet
L809[13:31:29] <Sangar> tho i thought i'd tested with them and had no other power source, but idk
L810[13:31:49] <Sangar> will have a look when i get back into oc, right after wrapping up a basic releasable version of tis-3d
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L814[13:34:30] <Pwootage> GAH WHAT intelilj doesn't have the right PATH on osx -.-
L815[13:36:03] <asie> tis-3d is so cool
L816[13:37:20] <Sangar> :3
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L823[13:43:37] <MGR> I require additional draconium
L824[13:45:59] <malcom2073> You must construct additional quarries
L825[13:46:08] <MGR> Draconium is in the end
L826[13:46:24] <malcom2073> Infinity had it in the world iirc
L827[13:47:16] <MGR> It does spawn in the overworld and the nether, but very rarely
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L830[13:54:19] <Magik6k> Sangar, one more thing, this happend when connecting rack to electrical age converter: http://hastebin.com/ebupavaqev.avrasm
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L833[13:56:13] <scj643> Anyone want to help me with my pack School has taken so much time from me sadly
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L835[13:59:54] <MGR> scj643, I'm sorry but I have my own pack to run, and draconium ore to mine :(
L836[14:00:06] <scj643> Damn
L837[14:00:21] <scj643> Can I have a link to your pack?
L838[14:00:38] <MGR> sure!
L839[14:00:54] <MGR> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9uPVlYk-qJvOUl0ZnE3Z19STmM
L840[14:01:03] <scj643> Thank god it's not on technic
L841[14:01:13] <Lizzy> technic isn't that bad
L842[14:01:18] <scj643> It sucks
L843[14:01:22] <Lizzy> well, the launcher anyway
L844[14:01:26] <scj643> Every time their CDN goes down
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L846[14:01:48] <GauHelldragon> hullo
L847[14:01:51] <Lizzy> hi
L848[14:02:19] <GauHelldragon> are there any covers i can use with OC cables?
L849[14:02:41] <MGR> most cable covers, I think?
L850[14:02:47] <Lizzy> FMP and Imiibis microblocks work
L851[14:02:51] <GauHelldragon> ok, thanks
L852[14:02:55] <Lizzy> as well as 3d prints from OC itself
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L854[14:03:02] <scj643> Nice
L855[14:03:30] <GauHelldragon> oh
L856[14:03:34] <GauHelldragon> i think i'll have to use that then
L857[14:03:41] <scj643> Open Radio mod?
L858[14:03:42] <GauHelldragon> this modpack doens't seem to have any sort of covers :d
L859[14:04:01] <MGR> scj643, our very own XDjackieXD develops that
L860[14:04:01] <GauHelldragon> playing uh, Galactic Science
L861[14:04:13] <scj643> Does it work like openfm?
L862[14:04:16] <XDjackieXD> ^^
L863[14:04:18] <MGR> It's using lasers to transfer OC data and AE2 networks
L864[14:04:20] <XDjackieXD> nope
L865[14:04:24] <scj643> Damn
L866[14:04:28] <XDjackieXD> currently laser communication (long range)
L867[14:04:40] <Sangar> Magik6k, uhhh, ok. you know what, make an issue with those two things as a reminder :)
L868[14:04:41] <XDjackieXD> planned is satellites + huge radio dishes ^^
L869[14:04:44] <scj643> I use openFM to play music on my server
L870[14:04:48] <MGR> btw, I put in my form for BTM
L871[14:05:01] <MGR> I requested a booth next to yours jackie
L872[14:05:11] <Turtle> XDjackieXD, if you add satellites, give them a damn api :P
L873[14:05:29] <scj643> Botania I can't run it
L874[14:05:31] <XDjackieXD> ok ^^
L875[14:05:42] <scj643> My laptop is too shit for that
L876[14:05:58] <scj643> 2.2 ghz dual core pentium
L877[14:06:01] <scj643> 4gb ram
L878[14:06:06] <scj643> intigrated graphics
L879[14:07:02] <MGR> jackie, want to help me fight the chaos guardian?
L880[14:07:14] <MGR> scj643, that's a shame
L881[14:07:20] <scj643> You know Project Red Fabriction and WAILA breaks
L882[14:07:30] <scj643> If you look at an IC the client gets kicked
L883[14:07:34] <scj643> last time I checked
L884[14:07:53] <MGR> Ah
L885[14:08:00] <MGR> I didn't know that
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L887[14:08:30] <scj643> IF I can run the pack I might shut down mine
L888[14:08:39] <scj643> If I can help out with it
L889[14:08:45] <MGR> Dude
L890[14:08:52] <MGR> If you want to help, knock yourself out :D
L891[14:09:13] <scj643> Also I would recomend using forge essentials on the server (That's what I use)
L892[14:09:19] <scj643> For permisions and such
L893[14:09:29] <MGR> The modpack was mostly built on suggestions, me googling "Top 20 minecraft mods," and looking at other modpacks
L894[14:09:35] <MGR> noted
L895[14:11:42] <scj643> Though I'll feel like shit when my world has to be reset again
L896[14:11:58] <MGR> you could join my server :)
L897[14:12:28] <scj643> Where is your server hosted?
L898[14:12:44] <scj643> I might turn what Lizzy is providing into a Terraria server
L899[14:13:00] <Magik6k> Sangar, https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1546 https://github.com/MightyPirates/OpenComputers/issues/1547
L900[14:13:00] <MGR> Bisect Hosting
L901[14:13:03] <scj643> Well I got to go boot into debian
L902[14:13:05] <MGR> I think it is in Montreal
L903[14:13:15] <scj643> Canada is closer to me than the UK
L904[14:13:43] <scj643> Rebooting (BTW i'm using quassel so mention me if you need something)
L905[14:13:44] <Lizzy> *France
L906[14:13:45] <Sangar> Magik6k, thanks!
L907[14:13:53] <MGR> quassel?
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L910[14:14:25] <Alissa> MGR: I think it's a distributed IRC client thing
L911[14:14:45] <scj643> It's a bouncer
L912[14:15:04] <scj643> Keeps logs for me and keeps me on IRC when I'm not really on
L913[14:15:16] <MGR> ah
L914[14:17:48] <MGR> I'm going to go drink some yogurt XD
L915[14:18:00] <scj643> I can also provide a mumble server
L916[14:18:21] <MGR> oh man, that would be great
L917[14:18:23] <MGR> I don't have one
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L919[14:18:37] <MGR> That's like TeamSpeak, right?
L920[14:18:40] <scj643> scj643.theender.net with default port
L921[14:18:48] <scj643> it's foss teamspeak
L922[14:19:07] <scj643> I perfer mumble over teamspeak and it has no license restrictions
L923[14:19:56] <Lizzy> just ordered pizza and got it delivered, why is this making me so happy/excited?
L924[14:20:07] <vifino> Because pizza!
L925[14:21:09] <MGR> PIZZA
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L927[14:28:10] <scj643> Love how multimc hides your user profile name
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L929[14:30:00] <scj643> MGR: IP Also I think immersive enginering and addon's would be nice
L930[14:30:20] <GauHelldragon> hm
L931[14:31:01] <GauHelldragon> could i make a 3d print of like
L932[14:31:03] <GauHelldragon> a hollow cover
L933[14:31:09] <GauHelldragon> that a cable could go through
L934[14:31:11] <scj643> MGR:
L935[14:31:46] <scj643> What's the IP MGR
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L939[14:33:23] <scj643> Is MGR dead?
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L941[14:39:17] <scj643> Forgot how annoying the MC music can be
L942[14:39:23] <Lizzy> lol
L943[14:39:54] <scj643> Somethings wrong with his pack
L944[14:40:01] <scj643> I turn music off and it doesn't turn off
L945[14:42:21] <scj643> It's just quiter
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L949[14:44:59] <malcom2073> So.... has anyone made, or is it possible to have, tabbed windows? I'd really like an edit window in one tab, and a lua window in another heh
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L951[14:45:07] <malcom2073> for openos
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L958[15:00:37] <Pwootage> gah, gradle plz
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L967[15:24:31] <sugoi> hi guys
L968[15:25:12] <v^Laptop> hi
L969[15:25:16] <vifino> ih
L970[15:25:17] <DeanIsaKitty> Sup
L971[15:26:08] <GauHelldragon> hmm
L972[15:26:09] <GauHelldragon> dang
L973[15:26:24] <GauHelldragon> can a 3d printed block occupy the same block space as a cable
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L975[15:29:16] <GauHelldragon> like if i had a cable going into the floor, and i wanted like a hollow cover
L976[15:29:24] <sugoi> malcom2073: basically you want tux or gnu-screen :)
L977[15:29:31] <sugoi> malcom2073: + for openos
L978[15:30:01] <vifino> afaik someone ported the computercraft one to openos
L979[15:30:05] <sugoi> malcom2073: that's a great project i should do... projects_todo.push_back('tux')
L980[15:30:20] <vifino> sugoi: *tmux
L981[15:30:29] <sugoi> vifino: ah thank you
L982[15:30:31] <vifino> tux is the mascot :P
L983[15:30:33] <sugoi> tux looked wrong
L984[15:30:35] <sugoi> thanks
L985[15:30:45] <sugoi> i use screen, i'm not familiar with tmux
L986[15:30:59] <sugoi> only that i know one exists that has a name with t and a u and an x :)
L987[15:30:59] <Pwootage> Yay, javascript running in minecraft, finally
L988[15:31:02] <GauHelldragon> seems like the answer is "no"
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L990[15:32:31] <sugoi> vifino: and i'd push_back tmux over screen because a lot of linuxy people tell me tmux is better and i suck for keeping with screen :)
L991[15:32:57] <sugoi> question to folks, what would you expect to find in a lib called /lib/tx.lua ?
L992[15:33:31] <sugoi> if it isn't immediately obviously, it's a bad name. i think it is a bad name, i just wanted to bounce it here
L993[15:33:55] <vifino> tx somehow reminds me off tc
L994[15:33:58] <GauHelldragon> ah, nevermind
L995[15:34:09] <GauHelldragon> i guess it requires forge multiblock instaleld
L996[15:34:19] <sugoi> and what about /lib/transform.lua ?
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L998[15:35:08] <sugoi> for the new shell stuff i've taken advantage of some iterator patterns on indexed tables
L999[15:35:38] <sugoi> like aggregation, partitioning, grouping .. anyways, it's basically a table extension lib
L1000[15:36:16] <sugoi> i use it in text.lua and shell.lua, and the upcoming pipes.lua - so it deserves its own - just not 100% on the name
L1001[15:36:34] <malcom2073> Heh
L1002[15:37:13] <malcom2073> sugoi: Indeed that would be nice
L1003[15:37:34] <sugoi> malcom2073: i know you're referring to tmux/screen, but i wish you were referring to transform.lua :)
L1004[15:37:54] <malcom2073> sugoi: What's transform do?
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L1006[15:39:03] <sugoi> projections of tables using predicates - things like select, where, first, group, partition, etc
L1007[15:39:29] <malcom2073> That could be useful as well, link?
L1008[15:39:51] <sugoi> it's wip, and coming in oc 1.6 for openos
L1009[15:40:02] <sugoi> will be in /lib/{name?}.lua :)
L1010[15:40:04] <sugoi> haha
L1011[15:40:07] <malcom2073> Ah gotcha
L1012[15:40:10] * sugoi hates naming things
L1013[15:40:25] <malcom2073> Yeah, table operations are always lacking in lua, always gotta go find some lib to do stuff, be nice to have stuff semi-built in
L1014[15:40:58] <malcom2073> I think I'm going to just have two computers next to each other, and just click between them to get myself tabs for now heh
L1015[15:41:32] <sugoi> malcom2073: are you actively developing lua scripts in-game?
L1016[15:41:37] <malcom2073> sugoi: Yeah
L1017[15:41:42] <sugoi> consider ocemu
L1018[15:41:44] <malcom2073> sugoi: I know I know, I shold use the emulator
L1019[15:41:50] <sugoi> :)
L1020[15:41:56] * sugoi shrugs
L1021[15:42:01] <malcom2073> I have it set up on a VM at home, but I don't have that here, and don't have the hard drive space to spin up a VM for it :P
L1022[15:42:14] <malcom2073> Also, I'm doing reactor stuff, and didn't feel like writing a reactor emulator :P
L1023[15:43:03] <sugoi> malcom2073: space?!! ocemu is taking up 12MiB on my machine which includes all the source and built libs, and 2 separate emulated "computers"
L1024[15:43:16] <sugoi> malcom2073: well that 2nd point is valid
L1025[15:43:18] <malcom2073> sugoi: I'm on windows, so I have to spin a VM with linux to run it heh
L1026[15:43:30] <sugoi> malcom2073: i run ocemu on windows, and mac btw
L1027[15:43:53] <malcom2073> Eh, someone said it was a hassle to get running so I didn't try heh
L1028[15:44:05] <sugoi> it's more steps, yes
L1029[15:44:07] <sugoi> :)
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L1032[15:47:41] <malcom2073> Meh, projects_todo.push_back("ocemu_on_windows") :P
L1033[15:48:05] <sugoi> :)
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L1038[15:56:27] <malcom2073> Whew, turbine control done, now I can get back to actually playing minecraft :P
L1039[15:58:31] <Inari> haha
L1040[15:58:34] <Inari> i kn ow the feeling
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L1042[16:01:03] <Pwootage> Anyone want to help write a typescript operating system for the JS arch? :D
L1043[16:03:02] <Antheus> Pwootage, GL;HF
L1044[16:03:27] <Pwootage> It's not *that* hard :P
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L1049[16:03:36] <Antheus> Dig or Die is 10/10
L1050[16:03:49] <Inari> we need less pointless archs and more x86
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L1052[16:03:55] <Pwootage> x86 SUCKS
L1053[16:03:56] <Antheus> ^
L1054[16:03:57] <Lizzy> Temia, just realised that your mc server is operating on athar itself, which i'm poking the networking of. /may/ have disconnected, not sure
L1055[16:04:05] <Inari> Pwootage: i dont car,e everything compiles to it :P
L1056[16:04:15] <Temia> It's okay.
L1057[16:04:18] <Antheus> ur mum compiles to it
L1058[16:04:20] <Lizzy> s/disconnected/disconnected players
L1059[16:04:20] <Kibibyte> <Lizzy> Temia, just realised that your mc server is operating on athar itself, which i'm poking the networking of. /may/ have disconnected players, not sure
L1060[16:04:24] <Temia> My boyfriend and I haven't logged on in a while and it's due for an update.
L1061[16:04:37] <Inari> Antheus: i compile to Temia
L1062[16:04:38] <v^Laptop> Pwootage, x86 sucks to develop assembly on, other than that its great
L1063[16:04:42] <Pwootage> I do have ARM on my list, and a (somewhat functional) qemu bridge laying around
L1064[16:04:51] <Temia> what
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L1066[16:05:06] <Pwootage> I guess I could try to port the qemu bridge to x86 qemu instead of the arm it's currently using
L1067[16:05:22] <Inari> somehow i imagine temia going all dokuro-chan on her BF
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L1069[16:05:44] <Temia> :X
L1070[16:05:47] <Temia> I would not
L1071[16:06:02] <Alissa> s/$/publicly admit/
L1072[16:06:02] <Kibibyte> <Temia> I would notpublicly admit
L1073[16:06:05] <Alissa> whoops :D
L1074[16:06:09] <Inari> haha
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L1076[16:06:52] <Temia> I WILL BREAK YOU
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L1078[16:07:20] <Pwootage> yeah I'm not sure if there's a better way of doing x86 than qemu
L1079[16:07:23] <DeanIsaKitty> Temia: Don't break Alissa all to much, I need a punching bag.
L1080[16:07:31] <Alissa> DeanIsaKitty: :c
L1081[16:07:36] <Inari> l-lewd?
L1082[16:07:42] * DeanIsaKitty punches Alissa in the face
L1083[16:08:01] <Inari> thats kind oof.. exotic
L1084[16:08:07] <Inari> but sure, whatever you like
L1085[16:08:28] <Alissa> .-.
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L1088[16:09:49] <sugoi> DeanIsaKitty: you pinged me yesterday
L1089[16:09:50] <sugoi> sup?
L1090[16:09:59] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi: Yeah, I did :P
L1091[16:10:30] <DeanIsaKitty> You mind me pinging you about completely off-topic unrelated questions about C(++) Dev on Winderps?
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L1093[16:11:06] <Temia> <.<
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L1095[16:12:31] <sugoi> DeanIsaKitty: ha sure :) you're voiced in here, so your call, but i dont care what channel you ask in - here is fine with me
L1096[16:12:58] <Inari> Temia: im bored, help me :<
L1097[16:13:08] <Alissa> Inari: watch animu
L1098[16:13:14] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi: It was a more general question, because I'll be asking (in your eyes) really stupid questions. (Like I said I have no idea about Windows dev)
L1099[16:13:18] <Inari> meh, nothing to really watch that i feel ik ewathicng
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L1102[16:13:56] <Temia> Sorry, I'm... kind of dealing with some personal stuff.
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L1104[16:14:13] <Inari> the way you said that made it sound kind of lewd..
L1105[16:14:20] <Temia> My friends are upset, my boyfriend's upset, and I'm actually having trouble keeping my mood up elsewhere.
L1106[16:14:27] <Inari> ah
L1107[16:14:28] <Inari> not lewd then
L1108[16:14:34] <Temia> Not slightly.
L1109[16:14:36] <Inari> upset why? ;o
L1110[16:14:41] <Alissa> Inari: watch me send snapchats to you because i feel like it
L1111[16:14:45] <Temia> Like I said, it's personal.
L1112[16:14:55] <Inari> we're confidential
L1113[16:15:01] <malcom2073> The whole lot of us :P
L1114[16:15:11] <Inari> Alissa: :P
L1115[16:15:14] <Inari> i dont even ahve snapchat
L1116[16:15:17] <Inari> so thats gonna be kind o fhard
L1117[16:15:27] <Alissa> I had like 10 people ask me to get it
L1118[16:15:33] <Alissa> and only two people have actually responded
L1119[16:15:42] <Alissa> and none of them want nudes so installing it was almost entirely useless
L1120[16:15:44] <Inari> i also dont find the concept of sending pictures that interesting
L1121[16:16:01] <malcom2073> Alissa: What is the point of them having snapchat then?
L1122[16:16:03] <Inari> sending and/or receiving that is
L1123[16:16:11] <Alissa> malcom2073: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L1124[16:16:13] <DeanIsaKitty> sugoi: Well, a problem I currently have is I want to check a file for edits (by an external program, say editor). Where should I start looking? (Win API? Or would you use an external lib like libuv?)
L1125[16:16:15] <malcom2073> Weird.
L1126[16:16:16] <Inari> lol exhibitionist alissa
L1127[16:16:26] <malcom2073> DeanIsaKitty: There is a winapi for that!
L1128[16:16:48] <DeanIsaKitty> malcom2073: Is there a publically visible documentation of the Win API?
L1129[16:17:08] <DeanIsaKitty> Sorry, /me stupid, pls ignore
L1130[16:17:08] <Inari> partially im broed because i wanna try out the secret wordl, battlefield and rainbow six
L1131[16:17:20] <DeanIsaKitty> malcom2073: Keyword? :P
L1132[16:17:29] <malcom2073> erm....
L1133[16:17:38] <malcom2073> I'm googling for it, cause I totally haven't used it in a year or so :P
L1134[16:17:51] <malcom2073> File Watcher API
L1135[16:18:16] <malcom2073> DeanIsaKitty: http://www.codeproject.com/KB/files/DirCheck.aspx
L1136[16:18:42] <DeanIsaKitty> Ah, thx
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L1138[16:19:05] <Alissa> why not just check the modification time?
L1139[16:19:29] * Inari modifies Alissa's modification time
L1140[16:19:31] <DeanIsaKitty> Alissa: Well, I'd rather not run a loop when I can use callbacks <.<
L1141[16:20:03] <Alissa> Whatever suits you.
L1142[16:20:25] <Inari> suits tend to suit you, because tahts their purpose
L1143[16:20:27] <Inari> they're suits
L1144[16:21:09] <DeanIsaKitty> Well, I need to find out what suits me. On Linux that is easier for me, but on Windows I'm a complete newb. That's why I'm annoying the hell out of s ugoi :P
L1145[16:23:12] <sugoi> well i'm (if i may say) a c++ expert
L1146[16:23:17] <sugoi> with experience on windows
L1147[16:23:28] <sugoi> but i wouldn't dare say i'm a windows api expert, no way :)
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L1150[16:24:14] <malcom2073> Yeah, I'd use notifications, they're (sorta) kernel level, so they'll use less cpu and disk drive usage than polling
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L1152[16:24:40] <DeanIsaKitty> And I need a C++ expert that has experience on Winderps. Especially since you are looking at all the problems with a cross-compatible mindset. And I target Linux primarily but most users will be winderps, so yeah. <.<
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L1154[16:25:28] <malcom2073> I tend to use Qt, so a lot of the platform dependant stuff is hidden which is really nice
L1155[16:25:34] <ds84182> Sangar: Any updates to TIS-3D today?
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L1164[16:39:40] <Sangar> ds84182, hopefully
L1165[16:39:58] <Inari> wonder what zach things of it
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L1168[16:43:51] <Kodos> What did I miss
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L1171[16:46:36] <_habnabit> haha i love the idea of 'C++ expert'
L1172[16:47:16] <sugoi> _habnabit: ?
L1173[16:47:32] <_habnabit> sugoi, i mean, unless you're on the C++ language committee, ...
L1174[16:47:50] <Sandra> Sangar, please do backport tis-3d, I want it in a not broken MC instance.
L1175[16:48:00] <_habnabit> last person i talked to who claimed to be a C++ expert also said "yeah i've never used virtual inheritance myself"
L1176[16:48:18] <Sangar> Sandra, probably, but no promises
L1177[16:48:31] <Sandra> yeah, that's fair.
L1178[16:48:36] <sugoi> _habnabit: well first of all, there is no "application form" to join the committee
L1179[16:48:45] <sugoi> and they listen to our suggestions and input all the time
L1180[16:48:49] <Sandra> because the latest version of OC isn't compatible with tis3d since they run on different MC versions.
L1181[16:48:52] <Sandra> :(
L1182[16:48:57] <CompanionCube> Sangar, any plans to integrate TIS-3D with OC?
L1183[16:48:58] <sugoi> the only thing to be on the committee is paying for plane tickets to be at the meetings
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L1185[16:49:33] <sugoi> secondly, your example is quite a straw man
L1186[16:49:33] <Kodos> Shhhh let him finish so we can get 1.6 soon
L1187[16:49:42] <Kodos> Tomorrow's my birthday =D
L1188[16:49:49] <_habnabit> what
L1189[16:49:51] <_habnabit> strawman??
L1190[16:49:52] <Alissa> congratulations on being a year closer to dying
L1191[16:50:04] <Sandra> also I presume you know about this, but for some reason programming an execution module just crashes.
L1192[16:50:36] <Sandra> Sangar, ^
L1193[16:50:43] <sugoi> _habnabit: "you cannot claim 'x' because this other guy did and he didnt know what he was talking abotu"
L1194[16:51:09] <Sangar> Sandra, i don't, but since i have a few unpushed commits...
L1195[16:51:15] <Sangar> give me the log anyway
L1196[16:51:20] <_habnabit> especially with C++, nobody who is actually a C++ expert would boast about being a C++ expert
L1197[16:51:20] <Sangar> or tell me what your program was
L1198[16:51:21] <_habnabit> php too
L1199[16:51:51] <Sandra> Sangar, http://paste.ee/p/gfEy1
L1200[16:52:02] <Inari> C++ tends to be toobig to be an expert on the whole of it imo :D
L1201[16:52:06] <Sandra> my program was mov left,right
L1202[16:52:06] <sugoi> also fair, ergo i said "if i may say" because yeah, claiming you know anything will always be attacked on the internet/irc :)
L1203[16:52:27] <_habnabit> Inari, exactly
L1204[16:52:29] <Sangar> Sandra, ah, the joys of stuff partially getting obfuscated because of name clashes
L1205[16:52:34] <_habnabit> C++ is a sprawling mess of undedicable grammar
L1206[16:52:34] <Sangar> will change the api
L1207[16:52:37] <Inari> people tend to be only experts on the subset of it that they use
L1208[16:52:53] <Daiyousei> c++ is c with a insanely large stack of shit put upon it
L1209[16:52:56] <_habnabit> which subset depends on the person
L1210[16:53:01] <Daiyousei> which grows every year
L1211[16:53:02] <Inari> yeah
L1212[16:53:06] <_habnabit> Daiyousei, C++ diverged from C in the mid-90s
L1213[16:53:10] <sugoi> for crying out loud - what is so wrong with loving a language, studying it for many years, and then claiming you know it pretty well?
L1214[16:53:11] <Daiyousei> ye i know
L1215[16:53:19] <Sandra> cool.
L1216[16:53:19] <Inari> c+11/14 isnt actually too bad thouhg
L1217[16:53:24] <Daiyousei> its decent
L1218[16:53:26] <Daiyousei> still not too good
L1219[16:53:27] <_habnabit> sugoi, well, maybe if it wasn't an awful language
L1220[16:53:38] <Daiyousei> but it does make some stuff less uhly
L1221[16:53:39] <sugoi> _habnabit: c++ is c with blah blah, clearly you know what you're talking about. i'll stand down
L1222[16:53:41] <Daiyousei> ugly*
L1223[16:53:42] <Inari> Daiyousei: they'rem aking improvements ;)
L1224[16:53:47] <Daiyousei> thankfully :D
L1225[16:53:50] <Inari> wonder whats new in c++17
L1226[16:54:01] <Sandra> if it wasn't.... 1.murder.8 i'd write an addon to tis3d because it's neat.
L1227[16:54:34] <Inari> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs40yxHjTxQ ~
L1228[16:54:35] <MichiBot> Inari: Christine and The Queens - Christine (Clip Officiel) | length: 3m 57s | Likes: 69097 Dislikes: 5218 Views: 19063269 | by Christine and the Queens
L1229[16:54:54] <Kodos> Anyone using Magneticraft atm?
L1230[16:55:03] <Inari> never even heard of that
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L1232[16:58:14] <sugoi> well for what it's worth, perhaps not much, i've been working in c++ for over 10 years, and i've been computer science faculty part time, assistance c++ instructor, and i lead c++ courses at my main employment for other senior devs wanting to learn more about c++
L1233[16:58:24] <sugoi> but meh, go ahead, hate it, i love it
L1234[16:58:58] <Inari> i like rust
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L1236[16:59:14] * Kodos still likes Lua best :x
L1237[16:59:35] <Kodos> Oddly enough, I've been using Lua with The Powder Toy
L1238[17:00:07] <GauHelldragon> ah, weird
L1239[17:00:18] <GauHelldragon> the texture picker says "soul sand" when you use it on zombie head
L1240[17:01:17] <_habnabit> rust is the best yes
L1241[17:01:45] <Daiyousei> https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/25640 totally
L1242[17:02:12] <_habnabit> it's great that they care about things like that, yes
L1243[17:02:15] <Daiyousei> SJWs get the fuk out of my rust
L1244[17:02:17] <Daiyousei> no
L1245[17:02:21] <Inari> eh i have no issue iwth using gender-neutral they
L1246[17:02:24] <Daiyousei> quotes should remain unchanged
L1247[17:02:33] <_habnabit> +1 singular they
L1248[17:02:38] <_habnabit> i use it for everyone
L1249[17:02:39] <Daiyousei> and they should focus on actually improving the language instead
L1250[17:02:40] <Daiyousei> :v
L1251[17:02:57] <Inari> as if anyone got seriously distraced from language dev due to that
L1252[17:03:14] <Daiyousei> still tho
L1253[17:03:19] <Daiyousei> even 4chan reacted badly at that shit
L1254[17:03:26] <Daiyousei> but oh well
L1255[17:03:35] <Daiyousei> im going to check out ocaml
L1256[17:03:37] <Inari> i woudlnt judge anything by 4chan xD
L1257[17:03:48] <Daiyousei> only bad thing about it is shitty threading
L1258[17:03:49] <sugoi> Inari: except for 4chan itself
L1259[17:03:51] <Daiyousei> but that can be worked around
L1260[17:04:02] <Inari> whats ocaml even
L1261[17:04:08] <Daiyousei> a functional programming language
L1262[17:04:17] <Daiyousei> http://ocaml.org
L1263[17:04:26] <Inari> ah right
L1264[17:04:31] <Daiyousei> it kinda looks like haskell
L1265[17:04:34] <Inari> i keep thinking its something relating to oc :P
L1266[17:04:53] <Daiyousei> heh
L1267[17:05:02] <_habnabit> ocaml is great
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L1269[17:05:14] <_habnabit> i had a job doing ocaml for a few years and i loved it
L1270[17:05:17] <Daiyousei> nice
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L1272[17:05:21] <Inari> do erlang
L1273[17:05:32] <Daiyousei> erlang syntax doesnt appeal to me :/
L1274[17:05:35] <_habnabit> i have an erlang book but i haven't gotten into it yet
L1275[17:05:39] <Daiyousei> but it seems to have a great VM
L1276[17:05:45] <DeanIsaKitty> Daiyousei: Eh
L1277[17:05:56] <Inari> elixir?
L1278[17:06:02] <_habnabit> erlang is dynamically typed, though
L1279[17:06:11] <_habnabit> i like (real) static typing like rust has
L1280[17:06:28] <Daiyousei> elixir looks alright
L1281[17:06:31] <Daiyousei> reminds me a lot about ruby
L1282[17:07:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Daiyousei: Duh. <.<
L1283[17:07:16] <Daiyousei> lol
L1284[17:07:16] <Inari> i keep meaning to learn erlang
L1285[17:07:20] <Inari> but i cant ever find an application
L1286[17:07:21] <Inari> :P
L1287[17:07:25] <Daiyousei> ah :p
L1288[17:08:42] <Kodos> Quick, someone type out SoonTM properly so I can copypasta it
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L1290[17:09:00] <Inari> mit der sonne sinkt mein stern~
L1291[17:09:01] <_habnabit> Soon©
L1292[17:09:06] <sugoi> ™
L1293[17:09:08] <_habnabit> Soon®
L1294[17:09:10] <sugoi> soon™
L1295[17:09:22] <Ekoserin> Soon�8?
L1296[17:09:36] <Inari> gj http://akari.in/pinky_bH7it :P
L1297[17:09:52] <Sangar> https://t.co/eR0nH5u7Pu
L1298[17:09:57] <Sangar> too lazy for a video today :P
L1299[17:10:06] <Inari> neat!
L1300[17:10:14] <Inari> beta when
L1301[17:10:22] <Ekoserin> I have no idea what that means or what those are but it looks cool.
L1302[17:10:25] <Inari> ftb when
L1303[17:10:56] <Inari> Ekoserin: http://gfycat.com/FriendlyAcceptableAllensbigearedbat ?
L1304[17:11:17] <Ekoserin> That looks fucking amazing.
L1305[17:11:47] <sugoi> Ekoserin: ikr, where did he mine all that iron!?
L1306[17:12:03] <Inari> heh
L1307[17:12:14] <Inari> why did it move to iron anyway
L1308[17:12:19] <Inari> back in the day redstone-ready was sandstone
L1309[17:12:20] <Inari> :p
L1310[17:12:31] <sugoi> http://gfycat.com/FriendlyAcceptableAllensbigearedbat
L1311[17:12:37] <sugoi> derp, clipboard wrong
L1312[17:12:39] <sugoi> ha
L1313[17:12:45] <sugoi> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc
L1314[17:12:45] <MichiBot> sugoi: Family Guy - Ostrich Laugh | length: 3s | Likes: 8503 Dislikes: 313 Views: 2741887 | by miciveres
L1315[17:14:15] <malcom2073> sugoi: That looks fancy, what is it?
L1316[17:14:47] <sugoi> malcom2073: my derp-paste? :D hehe, that's Sangar's
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L1318[17:15:02] <malcom2073> Yeah your derp paste heh
L1319[17:15:45] <Inari> its TIS-3d :P
L1320[17:16:00] <Sangar> i like the white more than the sand color :P
L1321[17:17:21] <Kodos> Why not just use Chamelium at that point
L1322[17:17:30] <Kodos> Ohwait
L1323[17:17:31] <Kodos> nvm
L1324[17:17:53] <Sangar> aside from the obvious, that'd be too textureless :X
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L1327[17:19:38] * Inari detextures Sangar
L1328[17:20:06] <Inari> so since earlier that failed, lets try again with somethign tha tworked in wow..
L1329[17:20:07] <Sangar> gah. what to call getWorld when i can't call it getWorld?
L1330[17:20:22] <Inari> mila, kann lachen~ ?
L1331[17:21:40] <gamax92> Sangar: gebeWelt
L1332[17:21:54] <Sangar> getEarth? :X
L1333[17:22:00] <sugoi> Sangar: i know the feeling
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L1335[17:22:46] <gamax92> Sangar: well, was going for World not Earth (I didn't use a translator, gebeWelt was a function name from that German WiiCraft thingy)
L1336[17:23:03] <Sangar> yeah
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L1338[17:23:14] <Sangar> anyway... will use getCasingWorld i guess
L1339[17:25:47] <Inari> psh
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L1341[17:27:25] <Inari> lewd + cute = cewd
L1342[17:27:44] <Inari> or maybe cuwd
L1343[17:28:20] <sugoi> um...cuwd sounds like elmer fud saying "crud"
L1344[17:28:38] <sugoi> well, no..ok, that'd be cwud
L1345[17:28:44] <sugoi> but i read it as cwud at first :)
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L1347[17:29:35] <Lizzy> just a prewarning, i'm fiddling with mysql stuff on the server that hosts the forum. i've made a backup just in case but if the forums suddenly stop working, you'll know why
L1348[17:30:01] <Inari> ah
L1349[17:30:08] <Inari> *aw
L1350[17:30:15] <Inari> i was thinking you'll be saying something like "I'll bew overly lewd the next hour"
L1351[17:30:16] <Inari> orso
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L1353[17:30:56] <Lizzy> lewdness can come later
L1354[17:31:09] <Inari> get messy with that SQL at least
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L1356[17:31:33] <vifino> I'm up for that later ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
L1357[17:31:40] <vifino> imeanwhat
L1358[17:31:46] <Lizzy> .-.
L1359[17:32:09] <vifino> :3
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L1361[17:35:47] <Lizzy> okay, gonna take the forums down so i can get the position correct (it keeps getting bumped)
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L1364[17:42:11] <Lizzy> forums back
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L1366[17:44:29] <Sandra> hmm. I wonder if there's a way to prevent the player from placing blocks in 1.7.10.
L1367[17:44:56] <Sandra> I can make them unable to break blocks with adventure mode.
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L1369[17:45:09] <Sandra> but placing is 1.8 only.
L1370[17:45:28] <Sandra> is there a mod that backports the 1.8 adventure mode features?
L1371[17:46:06] <Sandra> (I want the player to have to use a robot to do anything.)
L1372[17:46:48] <Lizzy> Sandra, perhaps look into how Forge Essentials does it?
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L1374[17:50:31] <Ekoserin> The Windows search feature is absolutely terrible.
L1375[17:52:29] <Lizzy> right, i think replication is set up....
L1376[17:54:04] <Lizzy> forums down again
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L1379[17:59:10] <DeanIsaKitty> Lizzy: Uhm btw update your openssl. The 'moderate' vuln that was released yesterday? Thats a double free, as in a critical remote code execution by Microsofts standards. Can somebody please explain why Microsoft has more rigorous standards than OpenSSL?
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L1381[17:59:31] <Lizzy> ?
L1382[17:59:47] <DeanIsaKitty> Just rambling
L1383[18:03:08] <MGR> hello
L1384[18:03:12] <malcom2073> When you throw darts at a wall in the dark, occasionally you gotta hit the bullseye
L1385[18:04:47] <Ekoserin> And occasionally you hit your friend in the eye.
L1386[18:05:13] <malcom2073> What's a good game of drunken darts unless someone loses an eye
L1387[18:06:06] <Lizzy> k, the replicating of sql databases could have probably been helped if both were in sync
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L1390[18:13:11] * Lizzy sighs
L1391[18:13:38] <Lizzy> really shouldn't be doing sql work on live stuff at midnight
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L1396[18:20:35] <Sangar> http://gfycat.com/FelineMilkyAlleycat
L1397[18:21:09] <Lizzy> cool
L1398[18:21:25] <sugoi> Sangar is clearly having a good time with tis stuff
L1399[18:21:27] <sugoi> :)
L1400[18:21:33] <Sangar> indeed! :D
L1401[18:21:38] <Lizzy> forums are back
L1402[18:21:39] <Lizzy> i htink
L1403[18:21:43] <Sangar> yey
L1404[18:23:44] <Inari> uhhh
L1405[18:23:55] <Sandra> so... what is the FZHammer dimension, anyone know?
L1406[18:23:57] <Inari> how to ireference commits in another repo in github pull requests :P (like referencein the text)
L1407[18:24:05] <Antheus> INB4 Forums down
L1408[18:24:11] <Sandra> I'm guessing it's from factorization.
L1409[18:24:43] <Lizzy> oh ffs
L1410[18:24:45] <Lizzy> .-.
L1411[18:24:47] <Sandra> Sangar, display module when?
L1412[18:25:02] * Lizzy facedesks
L1413[18:25:31] <Sandra> what happened, Lizzy?
L1414[18:25:33] <Sangar> Sandra, planned, but no eta
L1415[18:25:48] <Lizzy> i broke the forums again
L1416[18:25:50] <Antheus> lol
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L1418[18:25:56] <Antheus> was I right?
L1419[18:25:58] <Lizzy> yes
L1420[18:25:59] <Sandra> ah cool.
L1421[18:26:08] <Antheus> WOO HOOO!
L1422[18:26:23] <Sandra> Sangar, does the execution module have the same commands as the T21?
L1423[18:26:50] <Sandra> that is, the execution node from the game?
L1424[18:27:34] <Sangar> same stuff as in tis-100 yeah, unless there's hidden opcodes not documented in the manual i haven't come across yet :P
L1425[18:27:37] <Lizzy> right, lets re-import the database to janus, export it out using the actual command line utility then import it to athar to try and sync them up
L1426[18:28:01] <Sandra> Sangar, there's hcf (halt catch fire.)
L1427[18:28:08] <Sangar> noice :3
L1428[18:28:13] <Sangar> welp, gotta add that then
L1429[18:28:25] <Sandra> heh.
L1430[18:28:46] <Sangar> and make the block literally catch fire
L1431[18:28:58] <Lizzy> well, in other news the replication 'works', just it will screw up databases if you don't sync them before starting
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L1433[18:29:58] <Sangar> cool
L1434[18:30:06] <Sandra> I agree, that's an awesome thing to have for griefing purposes.
L1435[18:30:35] <Sangar> might add a config option :P
L1436[18:30:38] <Sangar> would be the first...
L1437[18:31:03] <Sangar> is there a vanilla way to generate non-destructive fire? :X
L1438[18:31:46] <Sandra> running hcf in TIS-100 will completely reset the entire game, and reboot it.
L1439[18:32:09] <sugoi> bat fire?
L1440[18:32:15] <sugoi> bat fire isn't destructive :)
L1441[18:34:29] <Sangar> hrm only finding the normal BlockFire
L1442[18:34:32] <Sangar> eh, we'll see
L1443[18:35:09] <Sangar> gotta implement LAST first and do some broader testing, then i might wrap up an early beta tomorrow.
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L1445[18:36:42] <Sandra> well by completely reset I mean it reboots the machine.
L1446[18:37:26] <Sandra> Sangar, I'd like to see a recipe set that ties OC into TIS-3D.
L1447[18:37:40] <Sandra> heh.
L1448[18:38:25] <Sangar> which way around? :P
L1449[18:38:56] <Sandra> mutually dependant.
L1450[18:39:33] <Sandra> well, such that OC computers require TIS-3d modules and stuff, and TIS-3D stuff requires OC base components.
L1451[18:39:35] <Sangar> sounds like a modpack job :P
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L1453[18:40:12] <Sandra> of course, since the most recent version of OC runs on 1.8 and TIS-3D runs on 1.8.8, they're not compatible atm.
L1454[18:40:20] <Sangar> yet :P
L1455[18:40:29] <Sandra> heh.
L1456[18:40:43] <Sangar> oh, and for minetweaker. because i'm trying to keep tis-3d a pretty minimal mod, so no built in system for configurable recipes
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L1458[18:41:04] <Sandra> I would love to tie tis-3d into skybotics.
L1459[18:41:10] <Sandra> but it's a 1.7.10 pack.
L1460[18:41:43] <Sangar> well, considering i could showcase it on btm, i do have some motivation to backport it already anyway ;)
L1461[18:41:59] <Sandra> yaha.
L1462[18:43:00] <Sangar> but for today: sleep
L1463[18:43:03] <Sangar> gnight o/
L1464[18:43:12] <sugoi> \o
L1465[18:43:28] <Sandra> night.
L1466[18:43:30] <vifino> \o
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L1477[19:01:04] <mpm> Good evening, I can't reach oc.cil.li. I'm forwarded to Lizzy's website instead.
L1478[19:01:20] <Lizzy> mpm, try again now
L1479[19:01:34] <Lizzy> i was breaking the sql database so took the forum down for a bit
L1480[19:01:39] <Lizzy> it /should/ be back up now
L1481[19:02:54] <mpm> http://oc.cil.li is strange but https://oc.cil.li works...
L1482[19:03:08] <Lizzy> http redirects to https
L1483[19:03:17] <Lizzy> or it should do
L1484[19:03:25] <mpm> Maybe it's a cache at my computer...
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L1486[19:03:40] <Lizzy> was gonna answer that but oh well
L1487[19:03:45] <Mimiru> http just redirects https for me, but yeah
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L1490[19:05:13] <mpm> Restarting Firefox helped.
L1491[19:05:31] <mpm> But the IRC part of the website doesn't open for me.
L1492[19:05:44] <Lizzy> mpm, if you go to the http page, the webserver sends a 301 and points to the https version
L1493[19:05:49] <Lizzy> hmm
L1494[19:06:06] <mpm> Ah, Firefox blocked it because it wasn't encrypted.
L1495[19:06:15] <Lizzy> oh, that's because the irc part is done via http. lemme go see where that's defined
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L1499[19:10:58] <Lizzy> there we go
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L1502[19:13:40] <mpm> It looks like it works.
L1503[19:15:12] <Sandra> I still remember the reason I first found OC, was because it was one of the very first 1.7.2 mods.
L1504[19:16:55] <MGR> I must go
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L1509[19:34:08] <Lizzy> i wonder if i could get the oc wiki to show in the forums like the irc page
L1510[19:34:23] <Pwootage> Well I mean, <iframe>
L1511[19:34:46] <Mimiru> but linking to a specific page would be a pain :P
L1512[19:34:52] <gamax92> libreoffice has really gotten shit ...
L1513[19:35:05] <Lizzy> yeah but i'm currently not sure how the button at the top for the irc page works
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L1515[19:36:08] <Mimiru> Lizzy, it's a IP.Content page
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L1517[19:37:19] <Lizzy> doesn't really help me work out where to set the links to it, meh. that can be a task for when i wake up later. currently i'm trying to get phpmyadmin on my pc to point to the local forwarded port for Athar's SQL server
L1518[19:37:58] <Mimiru> Lizzy, … you add a page in IP.Content, then add it to the Nav bar.. in IP.content.
L1519[19:40:31] <Izaya> hm, I was pinged and for a change there's too much to know what about
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L1522[19:40:44] <Izaya> time to check the ZNC logs
L1523[19:40:49] <Mimiru> Izaya, oclogs.pc-logix.com :P
L1524[19:41:41] <Pwootage> Well I have to say, it's convenient that when writing an OS for OC, I don't have to continuously restart Minecraft (well, unless I modify the raw APIs used)
L1525[19:42:15] <Izaya> Why would you have to?
L1526[19:43:37] <Izaya> ohok, thanks for the heads-up Lizzy
L1527[19:43:43] <Lizzy> hmm?
L1528[19:43:53] <Mimiru> Lizzy, it would seem that the wiki doesn't like being in an iframe
L1529[19:44:01] <Lizzy> k, nvm then
L1530[19:45:05] <Izaya> [11:13:11] <Lizzy> which reminds me i might break networking on Athar some time this weekend and i don't know to what extent it'll affect your VPS (same goes to DeanIs_aKitty and Izaya)
L1531[19:45:12] <Lizzy> ah
L1532[19:46:06] <gamax92> JDKLFJSDKFLJDSFKLDJSF WHY DO YOU NEED ALL OF MY CPU FOR 5 MINUTES TO SAVE A FILE
L1533[19:47:17] <v^Laptop> gamax92, what
L1534[19:47:56] <gamax92> there, it finaly saved
L1535[19:54:12] <Pwootage> Izaya: yeah I know but it's still nice
L1536[19:55:33] <Pwootage> ok, scala, what's up with your type inference? That should be a String, not an AnyRef
L1537[19:58:16] <Sandra> Pwootage, where're you defining the variable?
L1538[19:58:32] <Sandra> it can only infer a value from the specific place you define it.
L1539[19:58:52] <Pwootage> private def withComponent[T >: AnyRef](address: String)(f: (Component) => T): T, then when I use the method I have to withComponent[String] even though the method I'm passing in returns string
L1540[19:58:56] <Pwootage> probably something to do with the lambda
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L1542[20:00:10] <lperkins2> Is there a JSON module available in OC?
L1543[20:00:17] <Sandra> probably because you're defining T to be something inherited from anyref, so the type is something inherited from anyref.
L1544[20:00:18] <lperkins2> Or via OPPM?
L1545[20:00:47] <Pwootage> lperkins2: I know I'm using a lua one somewhere
L1546[20:00:51] <Sandra> lperkins2, lua table syntax is very similar to JSON, but.... I don't think so.
L1547[20:01:02] <Sandra> or maybe there is.
L1548[20:01:13] <lperkins2> I'm using a json library too, that I copied in manually
L1549[20:01:18] <Pwootage> Sandra: Yeah the type is inferring as AnyRef because AnyRef is the cap (since I need to return null), manually annotating the type isn't bad :P
L1550[20:01:30] <Pwootage> lperkins2: that's what I did
L1551[20:01:43] <lperkins2> I'm now writing a library for OPPM and would like to list JSON as a requirement
L1552[20:01:58] <lperkins2> If there isn't one, I'll add it to my repo, but I'd rather not step on any toes
L1553[20:02:42] <lperkins2> And the table syntax doesn't work well via internet cards
L1554[20:07:03] <Izaya> can drones place blocks?
L1555[20:08:12] <CompanionCube> Izaya, so how are you
L1556[20:08:36] <Izaya> well considering that I woke up before 1 PM, pretty good
L1557[20:12:18] <Izaya> you?
L1558[20:18:39] <Izaya> anyone up for some modded Minecraft?
L1559[20:20:52] <CompanionCube> I'm fine personally
L1560[20:20:54] <Mimiru> Who still plays Minecraft anymore...
L1561[20:32:59] <v^Laptop> not me
L1562[20:33:07] <v^Laptop> exept when gf is over
L1563[20:33:17] <malcom2073> I enjoy minecraft
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L1568[20:47:41] <Kodos|Phone> Jenkins down?
L1569[20:50:43] <Pwootage> null.asInstanceOf[T] //eew
L1570[20:50:48] <Pwootage> (seriously, eew)
L1571[20:57:23] <Pwootage> Well component.proxy() was fun to write in javascript
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L1575[21:02:22] <Izaya> oh man OpenSecurity has so much cool stuff
L1576[21:02:53] <gamax92> Izaya: you forgot to say that you're sponsored
L1577[21:03:17] <Izaya> ha ha ha
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L1579[21:04:15] <Izaya> huh, Engineer's Toolbox has microcontrollers
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L1583[21:15:23] <Izaya> is there any good way to write railcraft routing tables with OC?
L1584[21:16:06] * CompanionCube feels stupid for a certain typo
L1585[21:16:12] <CompanionCube> namely missing an = in an if condition
L1586[21:17:04] <CompanionCube> that caused a fun bug
L1587[21:17:26] <Kodos|Phone> Bleh. Cant access the dev builds
L1588[21:25:51] <CompanionCube> the power of the shell is strong: tup graph src/efl/native/libeina.cr.in | dot -Tpng > tycat.png && tycat tycat.png
L1589[21:26:00] <CompanionCube> Izaya, ^
L1590[21:26:30] <Izaya> uh
L1591[21:26:58] <CompanionCube> it generates a graph of the dependencies of a file, feeds it to graphviz and then tycats the resulting png
L1592[21:27:32] <Izaya> seems legit
L1593[21:27:57] * CompanionCube wonders if that would be possible on Windows
L1594[21:28:32] <Izaya> maybe with the UNIX subsystem
L1595[21:28:56] <CompanionCube> EFL *does* have windows support iirc
L1596[21:31:21] <Pwootage> time to figure out require()...hrmf
L1597[21:41:07] <Pwootage> argh why do components use all these nasty tuple results I'll have to handle in javascript somehow... D:
L1598[21:43:31] <Pwootage> #js [1] + 1
L1599[21:43:32] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > "11"
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L1603[21:58:54] <Izaya> Okay, I have 10 lava
L1604[21:58:57] <Izaya> I can make a nether portal
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L1606[22:00:54] <Pwootage> I hope it doesn't take you 50,000 years to mine the obsidian >.<
L1607[22:01:04] <Izaya> Why would I mine the obsidian?
L1608[22:01:16] <Izaya> I can just put the lava in the right place and turn it into obsidian
L1609[22:10:36] <Pwootage> oh right, derp
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L1616[22:24:21] <Izaya> so I just ran //distr on the entire world
L1617[22:24:22] <Izaya> oops
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L1619[22:25:30] <Izaya> # There is insufficient memory for the Java Runtime Environment to continue.
L1620[22:25:42] <Izaya> fuck
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L1625[23:02:24] <gamax92> Izaya: the entire world?
L1626[23:02:41] <gamax92> Sangar.gebeWelt()
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L1628[23:06:22] <Pwootage> Hm, I'll have to ask Sangar tomorrow about what exactly needs to be run in runSynchronized, because atm I have no idea how to tell
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L1630[23:07:29] <gamax92> Pwootage: callbacks that aren't direct
L1631[23:07:43] <Pwootage> so some invoke() calls, and that's it?
L1632[23:08:26] <Pwootage> atm, I'm guessing that must be handled in like machine.lua, since evidently it doesn't happen in scala anywhere
L1633[23:09:50] <gamax92> machine.lua yields a function to scala that it then stores and tells opencomputers to do a syncronized call (ExecutionResult.SynchronizedCall)
L1634[23:10:43] <Pwootage> yeah I think I see what it does, I'm thinking I'm going to handle that in scala for the js arch
L1635[23:11:45] <Pwootage> since I can't let javascript run on the main thread, ever
L1636[23:11:48] * gamax92 ignores it when oc throws a limit error and continues to do non syncronized calls :P
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L1641[23:27:52] <Pwootage> suuuure hope this never enters an invalid state, else things are gunna break
L1642[23:33:26] <gamax92> ._. Pwootage you have your own site?
L1643[23:33:53] <Pwootage> uh, always have?
L1644[23:34:00] <Pwootage> Did you just /who me or something? :p
L1645[23:34:03] <gamax92> yes
L1646[23:34:05] <gamax92> and also that's a lie
L1647[23:34:16] <gamax92> if you always had one, then you were born with a website in your mouth
L1648[23:37:58] <Pwootage> I've had one for a long time, anyway (and that's where my bouncer runs, obviously)
L1649[23:38:07] <gamax92> 3560
L1650[23:38:17] <gamax92> #lua 3560/74.82
L1651[23:38:17] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 47.580860732424
L1652[23:38:21] <gamax92> not bad.
L1653[23:41:08] <Pwootage> 3560?
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