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L1[00:01:49] *** mrkirby153 is now known as kirby|gone
L2[00:07:14] <sugoi> i always miss out on the fun of a split because i use a plugin that parses out that noise
L3[00:08:36] <Kodos> If I wanted to make a lever ultimately end up as a single redstone pulse, and have it not give out another pulse until the lever is flipped back up, what would the easiest way of doing that be
L4[00:08:40] <Kodos> I know nothing of P:R gates
L5[00:10:24] <sugoi> Kodos: that's a thing
L6[00:10:32] <sugoi> ls latch...?
L7[00:10:34] <sugoi> i forget
L8[00:10:37] <sugoi> but itsa thing
L9[00:10:47] <sugoi> i generally test 'em all
L10[00:12:29] <Kodos> Also, there's no way to reset a lever, is there
L11[00:13:32] <sugoi> no, sans robot
L12[00:14:43] <Kodos> Lol, I could do that. Have a robot come out of its little hole in the wall and reset the lever, and go back
L13[00:15:03] <sugoi> haha, you should literally have it look like that
L14[00:15:28] <sugoi> also, why lever then and not (e.v.) button
L15[00:15:29] <sugoi> e.g.*
L16[00:15:34] <Kodos> Because aesthetics
L17[00:15:38] <Kodos> I may even use an IE breaker switch
L18[00:15:38] <sugoi> fair
L19[00:15:53] <Kodos> But I'm trying to avoid RF mods in this pack
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L31[01:03:39] <Kodos> Woo, I broke OC in 1.8
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L38[02:01:20] <Sulljason> Stupid question: is there a reason turn enable the virtualization instruction set extensions if I'm not running VMs
L39[02:01:34] <Sulljason> to enable*
L40[02:02:03] <Kodos> Wat
L41[02:03:31] <Sulljason> VT-x and AMD-V
L42[02:03:48] <Kodos> Uhh
L43[02:03:50] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L44[02:04:03] <Kodos> I help people with the minecraft mod, not sure what you're talking about =D
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L46[02:05:26] <sharpturn> testing, testing, 1, 2, 3!
L47[02:05:41] <sharpturn> is anyone there?
L48[02:05:54] <Kodos> Nope, I'm currently passed out in bed.
L49[02:06:00] <sharpturn> lol
L50[02:06:08] <sharpturn> this is pretty awesome
L51[02:06:18] <sharpturn> using the in-game irc client
L52[02:06:26] <sharpturn> so
L53[02:06:44] <sharpturn> my acct on the oc forums is broken.
L54[02:06:52] <sharpturn> which kind of sucks
L55[02:07:14] <sharpturn> there's no way of fixing or deleting it either
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L57[02:07:35] <sharpturn> *tumbleweed blows by*
L58[02:07:44] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
L59[02:07:46] <Kodos> Not my department
L60[02:07:51] <sharpturn> yea
L61[02:08:00] <Kodos> Talk to Liz about that one, but she's asleep atm I think
L62[02:08:07] <sharpturn> k
L63[02:08:18] <sharpturn> i can be on @ noon tomorrow
L64[02:08:29] <sharpturn> thnx 4 the help btw
L65[02:08:45] <Kodos> Yerp
L66[02:08:54] <sharpturn> still currently in awe at how amazing this mod is though
L67[02:09:23] <sharpturn> probly my overall favorite mod
L68[02:10:13] <sharpturn> slow server, no?
L69[02:13:46] <Elizabeth> ?
L70[02:14:22] <sharpturn> ?!
L71[02:14:25] <sharpturn> !?
L72[02:14:28] <sharpturn> ..
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L75[02:15:38] <Turtle|Laptop> \o/ new laptop, aaaand the website for my fav. irc client is dead -.-'
L76[02:15:53] <sharpturn> aww
L77[02:15:56] <sharpturn> that sucks
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L82[02:30:07] <Turtle|Laptop> ... windows. could you not spend 30 minutes 'configuring' onenote
L83[02:30:10] <Turtle|Laptop> thanks. really.
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L88[02:34:46] <sharpturn> Ping timeouts... 2 in 2 seconds. Odd.
L89[02:35:03] <sharpturn> gtg
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L93[02:47:41] <TurtleFone> I do realize this is not tech support, but Google has been rendered utterly useless for this question, for how long does Windows 10 usually show a bsod?
L94[02:49:30] <Kodos> Let me guess, the ol' restart loop?
L95[02:49:30] <TurtleFone> no idea if it's stuck
L96[02:49:39] <Kodos> Did you try pressing a key?
L97[02:50:29] <Temia> Did they get rid of the boot options menu?
L98[02:50:56] <TurtleFone> no loop
L99[02:51:11] <Temia> I'm not even bothering to actively follow Windows at this point beyond maybe as test platforms for building.
L100[02:51:42] <TurtleFone> it just threw a machine check exception, did the collection thing to 100% and ... nothing
L101[02:51:59] <TurtleFone> no reboot, just idling
L102[02:52:10] <Temia> It's probably hard frozen for the same reason it threw the exception.
L103[02:52:37] <Temia> Something in your system is croaking bigtime.
L104[02:53:06] <TurtleFone> brand new laptop, ugh,
L105[02:54:58] <TurtleFone> it boots.that's something
L106[02:55:30] <TurtleFone> and the battery is nearly empty, ...
L107[02:59:23] <Temia> Well, the fact that it's brand new means you can probably get it serviced under the warranty.
L108[02:59:33] <Kodos> Does anyone use that OC Minecart addon
L109[02:59:41] <Temia> That what
L110[02:59:49] <Kodos> http://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/oc-minecarts
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L112[03:01:12] <TurtleFone> Temia, likely, if it's the hdd I will slap the jerks in front of me who can't keep their butts still on wobbly uni bench-table units
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L114[03:04:36] <Temia> Seems interesting, Kodos.
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L116[03:04:45] <Temia> Buuuut I don't think I'd see much practical use for it.
L117[03:05:17] <Kodos> I also found a bird watching mod =D
L118[03:06:22] <Temia> WHAT]
L119[03:06:28] * Temia grabbyhands
L120[03:06:35] <Kodos> It's only 1.8
L121[03:06:38] <Kodos> afaik
L122[03:06:46] * Temia despairas.
L123[03:06:48] <Temia> *despairs
L124[03:06:51] <Kodos> Indeed
L125[03:07:01] <Kodos> I'm basically throwing anything that looks interesting for 1.8 into an instance
L126[03:07:04] <Kodos> To see what I come up with
L127[03:10:10] <Kodos> I don't know how Crayfish did his mirror, but holy shit it's brilliant
L128[03:10:13] <Kodos> And doesn't bork OC
L129[03:12:12] <TurtleFone> apparently other laptops from msi also had the same issue, same program too
L130[03:16:17] <Temia> Maybe a refund is in order.
L131[03:20:04] <TurtleFone> dunno, will have to contact the store first
L132[03:21:01] <TurtleFone> apparently bios/raid driver updates are recommended "fixes"
L133[03:21:32] <TurtleFone> will have to check warranty terms first
L134[03:25:54] <DeanIsaKitty> I'm back bitches!
L135[03:26:49] <TurtleFone> extensive Google fu says it might well be cpu microcode
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L137[03:36:47] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/loCgu/aac92be3ad.png =D
L138[03:37:32] <TurtleFone> mirrors? nice
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L141[03:43:25] <Temia> Huh. I didn't know Minecraft could even plausibly pull off rendering to textures.
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L143[03:53:03] <asie> Kodos: Temia: this is one of the things 1.8 made a lot easier
L144[03:53:22] <asie> also LookingGlass does a similar thing in 1.7, only with no mirror impl
L145[03:53:35] <asie> also, Exotic Birds? 1.7 too
L146[03:53:43] <Temia> \o/
L147[03:54:24] <Kodos> Is it? I only saw a 1.8 link
L148[03:54:31] <asie> I use it on my server.
L149[03:54:33] <Kodos> Unless I'm retarded, which is likely
L150[03:54:34] <asie> >:(
L151[03:54:49] <Kodos> I also like how SecurityCraft redid the security cameras
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L153[03:55:00] <Kodos> Doesn't break OC rendering anymore
L154[03:55:27] <asie> yes because 1.8 standardizes a LOT of rendering code
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L156[03:56:15] <Turtle|Laptop> o/ news, it's hal.dll T.T
L157[03:57:23] <Kodos> Now all I need is the old fuse blocks and detcord from the old explosives mod
L158[04:00:44] <Kodos> Ho shit
L159[04:00:52] <Kodos> The PR for OC Conduits in EIO was just merged I think
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L161[04:08:23] <Temia> Oh, cool.
L162[04:08:31] <Temia> I might actually pick EIO up again just for thaaaat.
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L167[04:17:38] <Turtle|Laptop> Oh noes, my completely unreleased proof-of-concept powerlineadapters have been rendered useless to only EIO users. xD
L168[04:22:15] <Turtle|Laptop> ... hmh, no bsod yet, must've been onenote that caused it
L169[04:42:39] <Temia> Powerline adapters? Do tell.
L170[04:43:17] <Kodos> iirc network messages via anything that transmits RF
L171[04:43:20] <Turtle|Laptop> ^
L172[04:43:32] <Turtle|Laptop> They're homeplugs, but homeplugs are a trademark
L173[04:43:45] <Turtle|Laptop> so I can't 'technically' call them homeplugs, nor do I really intend on releasing them standalone
L174[04:45:22] <Temia> Ah, right.
L175[04:46:15] <Turtle|Laptop> http://i.imgur.com/I4dbWWw.png <- this, except the loop is not required
L176[04:46:34] <Turtle|Laptop> also this: http://i.imgur.com/Y57fLgk.png , which I should probably nerf with packetloss
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L183[05:31:58] <Turtle|Laptop> o/
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L185[05:35:00] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/loH39/90272dad68.txt wat
L186[05:40:18] <Turtle|Laptop> Kodos: Asie dun goofed?
L187[05:40:37] <Kodos> Nah, worked fine earlier. I added a couple mods, and now this happens, but I'm too tired to figure out wh at happened
L188[05:40:42] <Sandra> right... so apparently xbox ones now run windows 10 instead of windows 8.
L189[05:40:59] <Turtle|Laptop> Kodos, anything dependant on their core lib?
L190[05:41:05] <Kodos> Newp
L191[05:41:08] <Turtle|Laptop> weird
L192[05:41:20] <Turtle|Laptop> Sandra, and it's still crap :P
L193[05:41:37] <Sandra> I do not own an xbox one.
L194[05:41:45] <Sandra> but... *shrug*
L195[05:41:58] <Izaya> so botnet instead of shittyness?
L196[05:42:25] <Elizabeth> Izaya, SHITTY BOTNET
L197[05:42:27] <Elizabeth> shoops
L198[05:42:31] <Elizabeth> whoops* caps
L199[05:42:40] <Sandra> what youtube is for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3Sx1B1Vfdc
L200[05:42:40] <MichiBot> Sandra: Whenever my SWTOR speederbike doesn't load, I assume farts | length: 24s | Likes: 169 Dislikes: 2 Views: 1365 | by Bajo
L201[05:42:40] <Turtle|Laptop> I bet some russian script kiddo will ddos xbox live from xboxes if only for giggles.
L202[05:43:11] <Sandra> the whole.... design of it literally reminds me of win10.
L203[05:43:46] <Turtle|Laptop> How come consoles are this crummy lately though, you'd expect much better performance due to standardized hardware.
L204[05:44:09] <Izaya> Standard != powerful
L205[05:44:32] <Sandra> the new xbox one menu is faster, but kinda.... less well designed.
L206[05:44:32] <Turtle|Laptop> okay, rephrase, much better performance for the power it gives
L207[05:44:39] <Kodos> Got it
L208[05:44:48] <Kodos> Not sure why 'tronics was showing up on the error
L209[05:44:54] <Kodos> Fuckin weird, actually
L210[05:45:05] <Sandra> oh yeah.... THAT error.
L211[05:45:11] <Sandra> I hate that fucking error.
L212[05:45:16] <Turtle|Laptop> What error? :P
L213[05:45:21] <Sandra> it happens with random mod combinations for some reason.
L214[05:45:38] <Sandra> couldn't find class.
L215[05:46:03] <Turtle|Laptop> Last time I had that exception was me trying to get an EVE online 3rd party lib to work and the dependencies were skewed in gradle xD
L216[05:50:01] <Sulljason_> Does squid do DNS caching/
L217[05:50:23] <Sandra> that error is kinda common for me.
L218[05:50:24] <Sulljason_> If not I was gonna pair it with NSCD for it's fetching.
L219[05:50:52] <Sandra> it's happened between Not Enough Wands and WAILA, and some other things as well.
L220[05:51:28] <Turtle|Laptop> my jvm knowledge is far from 'enough', but, why would it
L221[05:51:30] <Sulljason_> Nvm found the answer in a related question.
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L224[05:58:30] <Turtle|Laptop> ... ugh. I still need to launch onenote again to confirm that my hunch about the bsod issue is correct.
L225[05:59:14] <Turtle|Laptop> well, here goes to science, and hopefully not blowing up any components
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L228[06:03:05] <TurtleFone> well, it's not a bsod, but OneNote hasn't loaded yet either
L229[06:06:52] <dangranos> hm?
L230[06:08:43] <TurtleFone> New laptop, machine check exception, msi forums report that it's a known issue with the micro code
L231[06:10:20] <TurtleFone> reportedly, it can be triggered by ms office
L232[06:12:29] <TurtleFone> the bsod is not triggered, but, neither does OneNote actually start fully
L233[06:27:28] <TurtleFone> and... reboot, ._.
L234[06:28:31] <TurtleFone> aaaand it's stuck? on the splash
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L237[06:31:35] <Turtle|Laptop> o/ No bsod dump, just a reboot that failed ;-;
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L242[06:58:08] <Turtle|Laptop> o/
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L250[07:50:29] <Kodos> Anyone recall what to use in the NEI search bar to separate queries
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L252[07:54:13] <Turtle|Laptop> Did you try commas?
L253[07:55:27] <Kodos> Yeah, no workie
L254[07:56:20] <Turtle|Laptop> according to ftbwiki it's regex
L255[07:56:27] <Kodos> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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L257[08:13:48] <Kodos> I'm kind of disappointed in the lack of sounds in Magneticraft
L258[08:14:19] <Turtle|Laptop> is magneticraft good? Still looking around at stuff that'd integrate nicely into a spaceship
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L260[08:16:40] <Turtle|Laptop> ooo shiny multiblocks
L261[08:20:05] <Kodos> My favorite thing from mag is the shelving units
L262[08:20:21] <Kodos> I can't wait to finally get settled into a pack and get a base going
L263[08:20:53] <Turtle|Laptop> heh, I want to get this laptop fixed and continue dev on the spaceship mod :P
L264[08:26:34] <gamax92> space ships!
L265[08:28:51] <Turtle|Laptop> gamax92, basicly, currently doing basework for positioning since having a 3D-array with 4 billion indices in each direction would be dumb :P
L266[08:29:09] <Turtle|Laptop> (And also use like 200 GB of space just for the numbers T.T)
L267[08:29:47] <gamax92> You need ... memory compression!
L268[08:30:12] <Turtle|Laptop> nah, I'll likely use a cheaty procedural generation algo. for determining planets and stuff, and then just hardcode the seed
L269[08:30:21] <gamax92> You need ... memory compression!
L270[08:31:11] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/loNxr/bb19c6b8bb.png
L271[08:32:43] <Turtle|Laptop> Kodos: Oooo, neat
L272[08:34:25] <Kodos> Each set of shelves is 24x Chest's worth of space
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L274[08:36:37] <Turtle|Laptop> hmh, lua has the whole 15 decimal places of precision a double-precision float has, right?
L275[08:36:56] <Kodos> #lua return math.pi
L276[08:37:00] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3.1415926535898
L277[08:38:21] <Turtle|Laptop> #lua print(2*math.pow(10,9))
L278[08:38:21] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2000000000.0 | nil
L279[08:38:42] <Turtle|Laptop> #lua print(2*math.pow(10,9) )
L280[08:38:42] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 2000000000.0 | nil
L281[08:38:46] <Turtle|Laptop> oops, new keyboard
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L284[08:40:11] <Turtle|Laptop> hmh, as I figured, not quite enough decimal points to make it work
L285[08:40:39] <Kodos> #lua return math.round(math.pi, 15)
L286[08:40:39] <|0xDEADBEEF|> > 3.1415926535898
L287[08:40:48] <Kodos> Yeh, only 10 it looks like
L288[08:42:11] <Turtle|Laptop> yeah it was going to be iffy already to store ~32k ly to meters precision :P
L289[08:42:27] <gamax92> "ly" is?
L290[08:42:57] <Turtle|Laptop> lightyear :P
L291[08:43:28] <Turtle|Laptop> internally I am using two integer based coordinate systems, one for 1 AU 'blocks', and another for the position within said block
L292[08:43:29] <Vexatos> so unfortunate that there is no "rly" :P
L293[08:43:52] <gamax92> relative lightyear
L294[08:44:03] <Vexatos> that's not how that works.
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L296[08:44:18] <gamax92> rotational lightyears
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L298[08:45:21] <Turtle|Laptop> doesn't relativity skew distance massively at high speeds? Relative lightyears could make sense
L299[08:46:21] <Turtle|Laptop> (It could make sense, but it wouldn't be usuable for anything sane at all b/c relativity :P)
L300[08:46:33] <Turtle|Laptop> either way, I have to go
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L304[08:56:40] <gamax92> Vexatos: Reika's Lightyears
L305[08:56:56] <Vexatos> that random control character
L306[08:57:01] <Vexatos> in the middle of the message
L307[08:57:04] <gamax92> SHHHHSH
L308[08:57:05] <Vexatos> so good
L309[08:57:17] <Vexatos> 11/10 would read again
L310[08:57:20] <gamax92> not my fault you aren't color compliant.
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L330[10:02:03] <Kodos> http://puu.sh/loSCa/c3259f23b8.png =D
L331[10:02:23] <dangranos> inb4 working monitor?
L332[10:02:32] <Kodos> Soon™
L333[10:02:35] <dangranos> though it seems so... gray
L334[10:02:50] <dangranos> but impressive
L335[10:02:57] <Kodos> Smooth stone and white wool will look tha tway
L336[10:03:08] <dangranos> add more colors?
L337[10:03:17] <dangranos> and some vertical elements
L338[10:03:27] <Kodos> I'll probably change the field type to football, and theme it to a team
L339[10:03:54] <dangranos> i guess the glowstone on the top part is temporary?
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L341[10:17:06] <Kodos> Not sure
L342[10:17:12] <Kodos> Going to bed tho, gotta drive down to get Battlefront tonight
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L365[11:27:03] <vifino> sup noodles.
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L367[11:35:19] <Sangar> good evengingngggng
L368[11:35:26] <Elizabeth> O/
L369[11:35:45] <Sangar> that typo kinda got out of hand
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L378[12:10:56] <vifino> Vexatos: You alive?
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L380[12:11:23] <Mimiru> Sangar, That rack did it again last night. :P
L381[12:11:35] <Vexatos> vifino, I am
L382[12:11:43] <vifino> Awesome.
L383[12:12:02] <vifino> Vexatos: Does Selene have some sort of pipe?
L384[12:12:37] <vifino> like `sampledata() |> print()` or something
L385[12:13:04] <Vexatos> print(sampledata())
L386[12:13:09] <vifino> which rewrites to `print(sampledata)`
L387[12:13:17] <vifino> which rewrites to `print(sampledata())`*
L388[12:13:25] <vifino> Vexatos: plz add .-.
L389[12:13:36] <vifino> makes stuffs so much cleaner
L390[12:13:45] <Vexatos> $f(sampledata, 0):call(print)
L391[12:13:46] <Vexatos> ,-,
L392[12:13:52] <vifino> .-.
L393[12:14:01] <vifino> Vexatos: maaakeee ittt fannncyyyyy
L394[12:14:04] <Vexatos> vifino, I only have Lua's pattern matching.
L395[12:14:07] <vifino> pweeze .-.
L396[12:14:16] <Vexatos> I can. not. make complex syntax patterns
L397[12:14:30] <Vexatos> everything will have to be surrounded by stuff like brackets
L398[12:14:34] <Vexatos> a lambda always is ()
L399[12:14:39] <Vexatos> (x->stuff)
L400[12:14:44] <Vexatos> for instance
L401[12:14:56] <Vexatos> It is virtually impossible to do stuff like this without brackets
L402[12:14:57] <vifino> (sampledata() |> print()) would work .-.
L403[12:15:08] <Vexatos> this is way more ugly than print(sampledata())
L404[12:15:22] <vifino> that's an example .-.
L405[12:15:35] <Vexatos> or $(sampledata()):call(print) or local d = sampledata() d$$ d:call(print)
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L408[12:19:55] <Sangar> Mimiru, welp :/ i'll poke you for details after dinner
L409[12:20:19] <Mimiru> kk
L410[12:25:48] <vifino> Vexatos: the wrapped tables in selene aren't lazy, right?
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L412[12:26:07] <vifino> ( stating the most likely thing... )
L413[12:26:49] <Vexatos> lazy...?
L414[12:27:02] <Vexatos> not sure how they would be made lazy
L415[12:27:22] <Vexatos> I mean, they really just contain another table
L416[12:27:29] <Vexatos> and pointers to a bunch of functions
L417[12:27:47] <Vexatos> contain a pointer to another table*
L418[12:27:55] <Vexatos> the objects themselves are really small
L419[12:30:02] <Vexatos> vifino ^
L420[12:31:25] <vifino> Vexatos: I think it can be done by adding the operations to some sort of stack and wrapping the accessing methods into evaluating them, $() just runs them all or something.
L421[12:31:28] * vifino shrugs
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L423[12:32:14] <Vexatos> uhm what
L424[12:32:24] <Vexatos> you know that that isn't possible, right?
L425[12:32:29] <vifino> idk :D
L426[12:32:36] <Vexatos> The object $() returns
L427[12:32:41] <Vexatos> literally only consists of pointers
L428[12:32:50] <Vexatos> to functions and the table it wraps
L429[12:33:00] <Vexatos> there is no data in the actual table at all
L430[12:33:31] <Vexatos> the table itself only has one value, the reference to the table it wraps. the function stuff is all in the metatable, even
L431[12:33:39] <Vexatos> and every wrapped table has the exact same metatable
L432[12:34:14] <Vexatos> and why would I run a method before it's being called
L433[12:34:16] <Vexatos> that makes no sense
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L435[12:36:23] <vifino> Vexatos: Does selene support loading in while the state is already running? And does the C API calls for loading lua work with selene?
L436[12:36:42] <vifino> s/state/program/
L437[12:37:37] <Vexatos> 1) no. You will have to require("selene").load() or one of the other means of loading selene before loading the actual program. 2) Of course not. Selene is written purely in Lua.
L438[12:38:01] <vifino> Let me rephrase 2.
L439[12:38:20] <vifino> There are C functions for loading lua code or lua files.
L440[12:38:38] <vifino> Will selene work if the stuff is loaded in via the C API functions?
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L444[12:44:09] <Sangar> Mimiru, so. elaborate on 'it' :P
L445[12:45:08] <Mimiru> Sangar, I'm not entirely sure this isn't caused by cables.. lemme load up the pack
L446[12:45:26] <Mimiru> IT basically did the same thing as usual. SOS Threw the string:lower error, then the server refused to start
L447[12:45:37] <Mimiru> tried switching sides on the effected server, no change
L448[12:45:43] <Mimiru> pulled server, put it back in and disconnect.
L449[12:45:50] <Mimiru> analyzer shows 0/64 components
L450[12:45:54] <Sangar> right, but that throwing is caused by switching sides, or not?
L451[12:46:09] <Mimiru> No, it just happens randomly
L452[12:46:16] <Sangar> ^.-
L453[12:46:21] <Mimiru> It's becuase the server sees 2 monitor/keyboards
L454[12:47:11] <Sangar> allright, so then my guess would have to be that the colored cable "randomly" stops working, which kinda behaves like a disconnect / side change to none
L455[12:47:32] <Mimiru> This is the same thing I was seeing using OpenOS in my Chernobyl map, and one server could see ALL of the components of every server in the rack
L456[12:47:43] <Sangar> which doesn't help (much), since i couldn't reproduce the cables derping, and don't really see how or where they could :/
L457[12:47:50] <Sangar> uhhh
L458[12:48:03] <Sangar> dafuq
L459[12:48:11] <Mimiru> I'm really thinking this is something wrong with colored cables
L460[12:48:22] <Mimiru> I ended up having to put in covers to split wires even though they're colored
L461[12:48:25] <Sangar> if that was also using colored cables cabled
L462[12:48:37] <Sangar> ...
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L464[12:48:41] <Sangar> what was that
L465[12:48:44] <Sangar> you know what i mean
L466[12:48:44] <Sangar> :X
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L468[12:49:27] <Mimiru> IDK, it took me forever to figure out it was the cables. I thought we might have a wire crossed somewhere
L469[12:49:41] <Mimiru> but when I put in the covers and it worked..
L470[12:51:10] <Sangar> mkay
L471[12:51:38] <Sangar> so they weren't in contact with covers or such before? (aka could it be it only happens for cables converted to fmp blocks/tes?)
L472[12:51:54] <Mimiru> No, there were no covers before
L473[12:51:58] <Sangar> k
L474[12:51:59] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-11-17_12-51-31.png is the current setup
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L478[12:53:20] <Sangar> so to clarify: did the colored cables start to crosstalk at some point, or right from the start? i.e. could it be, say, after a chunkload, or right after placement?
L479[12:53:31] <Mimiru> I think, it has something to do with when you first place a cable, it connects to all of the surrounding cables, then you dye it and it physically disconnects but not internally somehow
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L482[12:54:25] <Mimiru> I wonder how long I can run everything with just my power reserves... I might shut down the reactors and test some
L483[12:54:26] <Sangar> did you see this in singleplayer at some point? cause i didn't try it in mp yet
L484[12:54:39] <Mimiru> No, but I can go give it a shot
L485[12:54:54] <Sangar> that's fine, i'll start a dedi in dev then for testing
L486[12:54:58] <Mimiru> It seems to start happening randomly though... but once it starts it keeps happening
L487[12:55:13] <Sangar> huh
L488[12:55:13] <Mimiru> cause this place ran fine for a few days, then suddenly
L489[12:55:30] <Turtle> I'm a doofus, but with the new merged client/server architecture since quite a while, wouldn't it make (almost) no difference?
L490[12:55:33] <Mimiru> Components started dropping, couldn't figure out why, double chunkloaded all of our lines
L491[12:56:03] <Sangar> Turtle, almost. except some stuff might interfere in case of statics / singletons
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L493[12:56:10] <Turtle> ... good point
L494[12:56:25] <Mimiru> then I noticed that server 2 was seeing reactor 1's components, and that server 1 was seeing.. reactor 2's etc
L495[12:56:47] <Sangar> odd
L496[12:56:59] <Mimiru> One day I looked at my turbine listing, and one computer had all 40 turbines listed
L497[12:57:02] <Mimiru> but the other had none.
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L500[12:59:16] <Sangar> i *kinda* hope it is the cables... because if it's the racks i'd probably leave 1.5 in that potentially broken state, since they've essentially gotten a full rewrite in 1.6 :X
L501[12:59:45] <Mimiru> Yeah.. I was gonna build and play with 1.6
L502[12:59:56] <Mimiru> but the stupid effing github client wouldn't switch branches
L503[13:00:04] <Mimiru> and I cba to fire up SourceTree
L504[13:00:11] <Sangar> heh
L505[13:00:57] <Sangar> after 1.5.20 is out i'll probably merge it into the master
L506[13:01:12] <Sangar> and then start porting the changes to 1.8... not looking forward to that :X
L507[13:01:24] <Mimiru> srsly 1.6 request, crafting dyed cables :P
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L509[13:03:49] zsh sets mode: +v on Vexatos
L510[13:04:08] <Sangar> ehhh, maybe. make an issue (or is there one?)
L511[13:04:32] <Mimiru> I don't think there is, I'll make one
L512[13:06:01] * vifino flops on Elizabeth
L513[13:06:11] * Elizabeth snuggles vifino
L514[13:06:15] <Sangar> oh, also, have you ever seen this with normal computers, or was it always just with racks?
L515[13:07:15] <Mimiru> Haven't tried it with normal computers, we use servers cause of the sheer number of components we have
L516[13:08:27] * vifino purrs
L517[13:10:41] <Sangar> think i'll have another look at the cable's nbt
L518[13:10:44] <Mimiru> At the time I thought it was related to servers, now I'm not so sure... so I'd not tested on anything else :/
L519[13:10:46] * Sangar starts technic
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L521[13:12:45] <Sangar> Mimiru, mind porting me to the rack that's broken now?
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L525[13:40:38] <vifino> woot
L526[13:40:46] <vifino> Two tickets to 32C3 get!!!! :D
L527[13:41:23] * scj643 slaps Sangar for using Technic
L528[13:41:24] * EnderBot2 high-fives scj643
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L530[13:43:56] <Elizabeth> scj643, he's helping Mimiru debug an OC bug
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L532[13:44:51] <scj643> Ok
L533[13:44:54] <Vexatos> inb4 Selene is crashing Sangar's mod
L534[13:44:58] <Vexatos> For whatever reason
L535[13:45:04] * scj643 slaps Mimiru for using Technic
L536[13:45:04] * EnderBot2 chuckles
L537[13:45:09] <Mimiru> Fuck off.
L538[13:45:19] <scj643> I use SKLauncher
L539[13:45:23] <scj643> Using my own servers
L540[13:45:28] <vifino> scj643: Just shut the fuck up.
L541[13:45:30] <Mimiru> You want a god damn cookie?
L542[13:45:50] <scj643> I also keep mine on a git repo too
L543[13:46:20] <Izaya> scj, note that most throw the mods in MultiMC?
L544[13:47:02] <scj643> That's the point of the git repo
L545[13:47:14] <scj643> it has the mods and configs to throw into MultiMC
L546[13:48:31] <Mimiru> scj643, I set up solder to help TheMindCrafters get their mod pack back available, since I had it setup, and people on non windows wanting to play my pack (My custom launcher was Windows only)
L547[13:48:41] <Mimiru> I just added my pack to solder.
L548[13:48:59] <scj643> My launcher works on other OSes
L549[13:49:10] <scj643> (though linux you have to run it from terminal
L550[13:49:11] <scj643> )
L551[13:49:19] <scj643> or grab the git
L552[13:49:30] <scj643> (if your on linux safe to assume you know what your doing)
L553[13:49:58] <vifino> Is it still murder if someone killed an annoying twat and everyone agreed to it?
L554[13:50:03] <Mimiru> No.
L555[13:50:21] <scj643> That's assisted suicide :D
L556[13:56:02] <Elizabeth> "<scj643> That's the point of the git repo" have fun when your repo's commit history gets to like 2GB
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L558[13:56:39] <scj643> It's not for the normal user
L559[13:56:48] <scj643> the normal would get the zip file generated
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L561[13:57:32] <vifino> ... Then what is the point of it being a git repo?
L562[13:57:39] <scj643> Easy for me to push to
L563[13:57:48] * vifino facepalms
L564[13:58:04] <scj643> easier than syncing with a webserver with limited space and bandwith
L565[13:59:48] <vifino> I hope you don't put it on github.
L566[14:01:05] <scj643> Not github
L567[14:01:40] <scj643> git.dannysmc.com
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L575[14:05:18] <scj643> how does OC lua work
L576[14:05:23] <scj643> (the library
L577[14:05:24] <scj643> )
L578[14:05:47] <Vexatos> the library?
L579[14:05:49] <Vexatos> _the_ library?
L580[14:05:52] <Vexatos> that one?
L581[14:05:54] <Vexatos> or this one?
L582[14:05:54] <scj643> How does it implement lua
L583[14:05:58] * Vexatos points at random directions
L584[14:06:02] <Vexatos> oh you mean eris
L585[14:06:14] <Vexatos> https://github.com/fnuecke/eris
L586[14:06:14] <Vexatos> that's OC's Lua
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L588[14:07:35] <scj643> How does it implemnt it into the game
L589[14:12:45] <Elizabeth> #BlameVexatos
L590[14:12:53] <SuPeRMiNoR2> #BlameVexatos
L591[14:13:16] <Mimiru> ^^
L592[14:13:20] <Mimiru> %BlameVexatos
L593[14:13:25] <Mimiru> #BlameVexatos *
L594[14:13:50] <scj643> What
L595[14:17:27] <Vexatos> scj643, I assume sudo make? .-.
L596[14:17:46] <scj643> I got that
L597[14:17:57] <scj643> It's fine got all the info I need
L598[14:18:01] <Vexatos> there is this grand rule of OC source code I made up a while ago
L599[14:18:05] <Vexatos> Sangar knows why I made it
L600[14:18:52] <Vexatos> Never. Ever. Under any circumstances. Look into li.cil.oc.server.machine.
L601[14:19:06] <Vexatos> it's the most evil black magic going on
L602[14:23:32] <Vexatos> that's why, scj643
L603[14:23:34] <Vexatos> just don't
L604[14:23:46] <Vexatos> You won't enjoy it
L605[14:24:51] <scj643> I wasn't going to mess with it
L606[14:25:06] <scj643> was just explaining how OC has native lua and not a java implementation
L607[14:25:28] <Vexatos> ah
L608[14:25:29] <Vexatos> yea
L609[14:25:31] <Vexatos> there's eris
L610[14:25:33] <Vexatos> it just loads that
L611[14:25:50] <Mimiru> Thanks again Sangar
L612[14:26:13] <Sangar> not a problem; guess you can close the issue then, right?
L613[14:26:26] <Mimiru> Oh right, I have it up.. just not done it yet
L614[14:26:32] <Sangar> also machine.* isn't that bad :P
L615[14:26:34] <Elizabeth> Sangar, #BlameVexatos
L616[14:26:43] <Sangar> #BlameAssumptions
L617[14:27:23] <Mimiru> I'm still blaming Vex, as I lifted the code off of him :p
L618[14:27:42] <Sangar> heh
L619[14:28:05] <Sangar> did you take it from a card/item or a block tho? because if it's the latter that'd be broken in tronics, too
L620[14:29:05] <Mimiru> I don't honestly remember.
L621[14:30:22] <Mimiru> Oh ffs, now the cable connected through my cover.. lol
L622[14:30:48] <Sangar> lies
L623[14:31:06] <Sangar> i won't believe any bug reports until you fixed your card writer :P
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L625[14:31:59] <Mimiru> No, I mean the cable physically connected throiugh the cover :P
L626[14:32:09] <Vexatos> Sangar, there is a difference between bad code
L627[14:32:12] <Vexatos> and black magic
L628[14:32:48] <Vexatos> like, an ancient spell book may be written as elaborately as you can get, if reading it sells your soul to satan you should not read it
L629[14:33:07] <Sangar> :P
L630[14:33:11] <Vexatos> and yes, .machine is black magic
L631[14:33:16] <Sangar> Mimiru, oh. that's... impressive
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L633[14:34:02] <Mimiru> http://michi.pc-logix.com/Minecraft_1.7.10_2015-11-17_14-33-49.png
L634[14:34:05] <Sangar> Vexatos, what of it, the crapton of threading and related shenanigans or the lua interfacing? :X
L635[14:34:31] <Sangar> do other covers work?
L636[14:34:34] <Vexatos> push value is just not something you should have to do
L637[14:34:36] <Sangar> does it work if you place it again?
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L639[14:34:44] <Sangar> ah
L640[14:34:47] <Sangar> low level lua
L641[14:34:48] <Sangar> welp
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L643[14:36:35] <Vexatos> the threadening too
L644[14:36:37] <Vexatos> it's just
L645[14:36:39] <Vexatos> all kinds of bad
L646[14:36:41] <Vexatos> and worse
L647[14:36:47] <Vexatos> oh, also @Callback :P
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L650[14:40:07] <Sangar> @Callback is even black-magickier in 1.6 :P
L651[14:41:12] <Sangar> http://git.io/v42zC to get rid of the reflection. didn't have a real impact from what i could measure, but hey, no need to handle invocation exceptions manually anymore ;)
L652[14:41:54] <Vexatos> ASS EMBLY
L653[14:42:01] <Vexatos> THE NAME IMPLIES THE QUALITY
L654[14:42:20] <Vexatos> scala+ASM = 2hacky4me
L655[14:43:05] <Turtle> Vexatos, the world of programming works in many mysterious ways, but mostly piling up shitcode until it no longer falls down.
L656[14:43:19] <Vexatos> it's not shitcode
L657[14:43:21] <Vexatos> it's decent code
L658[14:43:23] <Vexatos> but again
L659[14:43:26] <Vexatos> elaborate black magic
L660[14:43:31] <Vexatos> is still black magic
L661[14:43:35] <Vexatos> I need to go sleep now
L662[14:43:36] <Turtle> 'shitcode' was used for humorous effect here
L663[14:43:41] <Turtle> but it still applied :P
L664[14:43:47] <Sangar> :P
L665[14:43:50] <Vexatos> Look at selene's parser
L666[14:43:58] <Sangar> oc, quality shitcode
L667[14:44:04] <Vexatos> It's about as bad as you can get with quality shitcode
L668[14:44:05] <Vexatos> bye
L669[14:44:16] <Sangar> i'll get going, too
L670[14:44:18] <Sangar> gnight o/
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L673[14:48:59] <Turtle> ... I forgot I got skybox rotation to work.
L674[14:49:06] <Mimiru> *still* blame Vex.
L675[14:50:52] <Mimiru> Sangar, I stole it from the TapeDrive.
L676[14:51:09] <Mimiru> http://git.io/v42VG
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L679[14:53:52] <Sangar> looks like the tape drive would have the same issue then :P if you have it on your server, mind testing an opening an issue if it does?
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L681[14:54:56] <Mimiru> Sangar, yep.
L682[14:55:45] <Sangar> cool, thanks
L683[14:56:06] <Sangar> then i'm off for today (really now), gnight o/
L684[14:56:12] <Mimiru> I'll open an issue on Computronics and steal his fix.
L685[14:56:12] <Mimiru> :P
L686[14:56:15] <Mimiru> Night Sangar thanks again
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L692[15:46:34] <Turtle> ugh. I am completely unable to produce somewhat un-ugly looking textures xD
L693[15:48:26] <CompanionCube> programmer art
L694[15:50:18] <malcom2073> I exclusively use placeholder textures, I've given up an accepted that I'm totally nonartistic
L695[15:52:15] <Turtle> .... yep it's terrible http://i.imgur.com/yrUuDHO.png
L696[15:58:12] <Turtle> context: That is (eventually) going to be a gyroscope controller (To modify a spacecraft's rotation)
L697[16:06:34] <malcom2073> Hmm.... more circles?
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L727[19:57:54] <LordFokas> A friend asked me if I knew anyone who made Let's Plays with OpenComputers, so here I am in hopes someone knows about it. Also hi guys o/
L728[19:58:30] <LordFokas> ... and girls. And anyone who might not identify with a gender.
L729[19:58:31] <Kodos> Long time no see
L730[19:58:47] <LordFokas> Yeah I've been off the map for a while
L731[20:00:11] <LordFokas> anyways, I won't be paying much attention to this so if anyone can aswer that question please ping me ;)
L732[20:00:13] <LordFokas> thanks
L733[20:00:47] <Kodos> I won't be paying much attention either, just got back from picking up Battlefront and I'm arguing with mom as to why i should get it now instead of Christmas
L734[20:00:48] <gamax92> LordFokas: Mianite, they used OpenComputer's editor to pretend it was a chat log :/
L735[20:01:24] <gamax92> everything was just used as decoration and not functional
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L741[20:29:51] <LordFokas> thx gamax92
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L762[23:11:12] <Kodos> guiz
L763[23:12:47] <scj643> It's 12 am
L764[23:12:54] <scj643> And later for some other people
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L770[23:32:33] <MrWonderful2012_> I think I found a weird bug in oc
L771[23:33:24] <MrWonderful2012_> apparently the man command doesnt block the * wildcard
L772[23:34:50] <MrWonderful2012_> if you do man *a it prints out the entire source code of openos
L773[23:35:39] <MrWonderful2012_> that can be a major security issue for custom os where there are multiple users and/or multiple levels of access
L774[23:36:23] <MrWonderful2012_> worse, it can allow you to read any file
L775[23:38:30] <scj643> Don't put that shit on IRC
L776[23:38:42] <scj643> Email someone about that
L777[23:38:59] <scj643> That shit can't be made public p
L778[23:40:35] <MrWonderful2012_> I dont think you could compromise real computers with it
L779[23:41:11] <MrWonderful2012_> anyway I will send an email
L780[23:41:19] <gamax92> >_>
L781[23:41:22] <gamax92> no emails
L782[23:41:31] <gamax92> send Sangar an issue on github
L783[23:42:12] <scj643> This is a security issue though
L784[23:42:17] <MrWonderful2012_> ok
L785[23:42:28] <scj643> In game security = fre
L786[23:42:38] <scj643> *real computer security
L787[23:42:54] <scj643> gamax92
L788[23:43:27] <gamax92> where do you get the idea that it's an irl computer security issue?
L789[23:43:45] <MrWonderful2012_> I never said it was
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L791[23:43:51] <gamax92> @scj643
L792[23:44:19] <MrWonderful2012_> but I was able to read the contents of files that are supposed to be hidden
L793[23:45:45] <scj643> An in game security issue is just as bad as a real one and should be treated the same
L794[23:45:57] <MrWonderful2012_> yeah
L795[23:46:04] <MrWonderful2012_> I will create an issue
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